🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[unique swallow]

Me

[muted mauve]

Cay

Please leave the nice looking dishes prank free

[unique swallow]

[muted mauve]

@dreamy pendant

[dreamy pendant]

AAAA

[rain isle]

SPORKLER

🍞

[naive zinc]

Cause she is the sun

God her sfx are so bright

[steep tide]

What gears will come in bp shop 8.1 ?

[naive zinc]

HoRB's

[steep tide]

Is getting 32 balls possible without bp ?

[short knoll]

nope

f2p can only get 20 ball from the bp season + 5 ball from vintage

[dense harness]

No but anyway, elfs and valk cards can't be bought if you don't buy at least knight i think ? Like it's locked

[rain spindle]

anniv patch is next week, damn, I am not used to feb as anniv

[short knoll]

most underwhelming anni/cny patch

[steep tide]

No artbook right ?

[copper shale]

no info

[rain spindle]

if there's no info, it might not be there

I am used to nov as SEA anniv

something something can't believe they had to combine our anniv with the 12 people playing GLB /s

[hard meadow]

SEA is now part of GLB

[rain spindle]

if SEA is part of GLB, why is SEA disturbance higher?

[hard meadow]

cause you are closer to equator

normal for temps to be higher

more sunlight

[rain spindle]

sounds like GLB people need to go out and touch grass more

[hard meadow]

theres no grass to touch

only snow

[rain spindle]

is it yellow?

[novel elbow]

if i pee on it maybe

[hard meadow]

no its beautiful grey

with all the cars driving by

not recommended to eat either

[rain spindle]

why would you eat snow?

people step on it, no?

[feral epoch]

yes

[steep tide]

Do they have it in CN server ?

[feral epoch]

no, only for patch 7.8

[steep tide]

Seem like in 8.5 or 8.2 i hope so

[feral epoch]

don't hope

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/please-i-need-a-miracle-eric-cartman-south-park-s11e8-le-petit-tourettes-gif-21153254

[rain spindle]

we're not getting artbook anymore probably

or ask customer support

[short knoll]

someone asked them before 7.8, they said no artbook for 7.8 and subsequences patches

not worth giving book for glb anymore

[vale granite]

Your dirty snow is gray?

Or did I misunderstand that terribly

[rain spindle]

we got dragged into no artbook with GLB

feels batman

[mint cape]

Can we farm AL next patch?

[vale granite]

Wdym exactly by this question? AL is farmable for an extremely long while alr

[mint cape]

Ancient legacy

[vale granite]

Yes, AL is Ancient Legacy
It's farmable via Memorial Arena and Abyss

[half shard]

that thing still farmable

[mint cape]

Yeah Ik but I'm talking about 100 al

[short knoll]

[mint cape]

DHAIDJISKS

In the events there's a shop and I'm wondering if there's gonna be Al in the shop

And we can buy 99 Al in the event shop

Next patch

8.1

[short knoll]

events next patch give several material box that has AL

[glass nacelle]

The good news is they haven't put sd mobs in abyss yet

[craggy sentinel]

whats flux

whel to win fr

[vale granite]

LoA weather

[clear vigil]

[nova osprey]

Sd mobs next cycle

[glass nacelle]

[jolly heath]

Im thinking about pulling for elysias dkey but i dont have thelema, is she fine without her? I have Sena, SIMP and RS as shadow tag supports (all without their weapons )

[plucky cradle]

not fine

[willow pumice]

Ye most of her bosses really want thel

wait this isnt the latest one

[plucky cradle]

[slim lion]

Where are your weapons-

[spice summit]

Does HoHe support want SS

[jolly heath]

so i should skip?

[willow pumice]

Sure

[jolly heath]

or i could get her to support RS i guess cuz i only have sparkle as a LoA support

[slim lion]

I mean if your abyss rank is low and you don't care about it either u can get it

Which I assume yours is since you are gearless

[jolly heath]

yeah im low rank but i made so many begginer mistakes that i want to make the best choices

like not getting weapons for my valks

[slim lion]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[plucky cradle]

skip all only Elybad

[hard meadow]

i wud focus on getting kiana and her weapon first

if you have the xtals

[willow pumice]

True

On my cn acc if I dont pull ely dk -100
if i pull ely dk also still -100
cus everyone all have ss+ ely

[jolly heath]

i do

278\

[slim lion]

Not even enough for one pull

[jolly heath]

is that enough to SSS?

[hard meadow]

278k

[plucky cradle]

imejin no SS+ Elybad in 2025

[jolly heath]

i wish

[hard meadow]

but real if you have 278 xtals currently

that means you are skipping next patch

[plucky cradle]

oh that's almost one roll !!!

fund me

[jolly heath]

or... i single pull on kianas banner untill i get her and she will be my new valk without her weapon

[hard meadow]

didnt you just say you want to stop beginner mistakes

[jolly heath]

its a joke

[plucky cradle]

[slim lion]

F2p Marisa didn't purchase hohe box?

[willow pumice]

my hoh is lore-canon build. ded hoh

[plucky cradle]

S MPE

[slim lion]

LMAO
"Lore-canon"

[slim lion]

Forget about that the sp valks

[plucky cradle]

nothing matters other than Elybad

[slim lion]

But but miss eternity

[plucky cradle]

miss who

[hard meadow]

whats a lore cannon

[jolly heath]

"the material accepted as officially part of the game's universe or storyline"

|||Elysia is dead in the story, and so is their elysia cuz she has no gear||

[hard meadow]

oh so it has nothing to with actual cannons

i see i see

[slate elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hsu_iXTB0

[glass nacelle]

elybad in 2025

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel in 2025

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

denwhel in 2030

[plucky cradle]

[atomic peak]

I love these freeze frames

[glass nacelle]

event is fucking long but they only give 300 crys

stingy

[short knoll]

cool mech, unlike the new abomination

[terse ravine]

The first thing i see in this channel after 1+ day

[iron sentinel]

Yup...

[muted mauve]

the event is faster than most

[slate elm]

it's more than 200. Albeit 300 matches up with what we got from snazzy back in sparkle's patch

[steady granite]

it's a rerun, be happy it's even there

(MHY please make them perma already)

[feral epoch]

not happy

[pulsar sparrow]

this is why event reruns just get skin and bye for me

[muted mauve]

This event has only a bunch of 1 time puzzles.
Much faster than doing 10-20 minute stages and pvp battles

[terse ravine]

pvp battles fun with friends

[muted mauve]

[glass nacelle]

[hot swift]

[steady granite]

[hot swift]

[glass nacelle]

kek

[atomic peak]

Bruh

[muted mauve]

wrong chat

[dreamy pendant]

[cerulean badge]

Helour

[gleaming imp]

8.1 soon on glblul

And awhile after that 8.2 valk deets on public beta

[steady granite]

no 8.2, kiana is the last unit

it started with her and ends with her

[junior nova]

Bless!!

[gleaming imp]

P1 on top forever

[steel surge]

[sand frigate]

Lolol

Even with revenue down would they walk away from +3million monthly?

[steady granite]

it's called tactical retreat

leave the game behind, invest in nfts

then the characters can live eternally on blockchain

[hard meadow]

depend how much development and operating costs are

[sand frigate]

They built genshin on the revenues of hi3. I am sure they are fine. Mihoyo is like Larian, they are not public, not slaves to quarterly +15% death spiral.

P2 has to sting some though. I think the goal was to expand the audience..

[hard meadow]

well hey thats on them for completely botching the launch by rushing it for cny

[junior nova]

The story and characters are fine, the problem is abandoning most things from p1, hyv realized this and that's why they made the new kiana, teri and dudu

Sacrificed their p1 players to get newer players even though the game has a bad rep to outsiders

[rain isle]

Well, peeps do hate on this game for no reason anyway, so I guess hoyo trying to get a lot more eyes the way they did is kinda oof. Idk

With this I go bedge

[gleaming imp]

Also p2 launch was a mess of bugs/glitches/crashes

They should’ve delayed p2 by a patch or three to make it’s debut a better experience

[still condor]

but then theyd have to pull a bunch of crap out of their ass cause they wouldnt just make a patch with nothing new in it

[rustic stump]

And that means we’re not getting anymore pt2 battlesuits and events until Leylah it seems

[short knoll]

wake up to lot of bad takes

[rustic stump]

They could turned some of the events we have now into epilogue chapters

[gleaming imp]

Give the players lots of apology crystals to compensate

[still condor]

they definitely wouldnt do that lmao

[gleaming imp]

[rustic stump]

Instead of new valk, we should get more stellar keys for a few chapters for the last couple of pt1 units, but that’s asking for too much when they can keep releasing units based off Kiana’s dreamworld

[edgy drift]

empty patches are a death sentence

tho I do agree p2 release was rushed too much

[gleaming imp]

But bad launch/first impression also bad

[still condor]

not as bad as releasing patches with literally nothing in it

[edgy drift]

It's taking the lesser of 2 evil

[still condor]

release a patch with nothing in it nobody will play it and everybody will realize life is so much better without hi3 in it

[edgy drift]

Releasing something functional with issues was still better than postponing it last minute and having nothing

[rustic stump]

They could of handed out more pt battlesuits with future AR support built in, but left hidden

[still condor]

sure but time they waste creating filler content is time they arent spending on real content

[hard meadow]

if they have nothing they could always extend patch length to make up more time

oh wait

[gleaming imp]

Nostalgia shill is real content for a boomer like me

[edgy drift]

Yeah but they have to plan that way ahead

[still condor]

theyre not gonna create content specifically for drya from the discord server

[gleaming imp]

[hard meadow]

well the main thing was they wanted p2 out for cny

which is a great timing to release it, sure

if only it was ready

[edgy drift]

And that mainly yeah

Same reason they rushed trio out the previous year

We had the valks before their story

[still condor]

im mostly annoyed they never finished changing the menus and crap

[unique swallow]

One of the worst takes I've seen in this channel ever

[twin dune]

JESUS WHAT THE HELL

[nova osprey]

Seems like normal er dmg

[twin dune]

I should have picked apo1 and pray for the ult signet in shop cuz i was going for a nuke build

[twin dune]

Finished fast too and i m pretty sure she can be even faster

In ER as long as u max the pri and get the stigs you can do everything in 1 AR rotation

[nova osprey]

So just like every other p2 except maybe coralie SO build

[plucky cradle]

can we get higher

[abstract night]

Shes fun in SO build

[glass nacelle]

domyer

[plucky cradle]

domyabyss

[finite grove]

how much do you need to spend to get HorB?

[nova osprey]

45k

[plucky cradle]

100k

[glass nacelle]

1m

[finite grove]

[vapid maple]

Oh nice I can afford HorB during the week before spending event ends if I'm patient and consistent

[rustic stump]

How?

[shrewd socket]

bc it only benefits veterans

[unique swallow]

1. 1 year is way too short for a valk to get a dkey unless you're bke
2. New players get fucked
3. F2ps get atk diffed harder bc they can't get synergy ranks, though that's not as big of an issue since whales will diff them even without more atk

4. Lack of new valks is boring

[rustic stump]

Replacing perfectly good ones within a few patches with a new mechanic is dumb though, but what do I know? 🤷🏾‍♀️

[unique swallow]

FoV is still getting weathers

[rustic stump]

For how long?

[unique swallow]

Long enough

You are aware she's already a year old right

[rustic stump]

And she needs Sporkle

Yes. She came out a month before pt2, right?

[unique swallow]

Yes

[glass nacelle]

old mech = bad

replace them pls

[vapid maple]

Instead of giving old pt1 characters a new stellar key, they should just add them to ER for free xtals

[glass nacelle]

real

[short knoll]

who getting replaced in few patch with new mechanic? luna fov hare haven't got replaced yet as far as i know

on other hand, helia already dead even with new mechanic

[glass nacelle]

800+ with sena helia

[gleaming imp]

Helibad real which means even new helia suit will be helibad as well

[abstract night]

Delulu

[vale granite]

Nah, that shit will be expensive, so probs not

[gleaming imp]

You think it'll have the SW/FoV/Vill V/HoTruth banner type?

[abstract night]

[gleaming imp]

Actually would that even be a thing in p2 banners since gear and weapon is already cheap and that banner appeal was that you can get gear and Valk and ranks

[vale granite]

Nah, I meant a regular S-rank banner

[vapid maple]

I was just about to type the same thing

Are SP valk gonna still exist or are they just back to A rank valks but with p2 system built

[glass nacelle]

a rank = bait

[vale granite]

I mean, we didn't even get any A-ranks outside of 7.3

[glass nacelle]

[vale granite]

They could've abandoned them completely

[glass nacelle]

just pull s rank

[unique swallow]

Why pull a ranks when they're gonna die sooner

[vale granite]

They're cheaper tho 🗿

[vapid maple]

Just like augment valks

[edgy drift]

SPs are for sure gone

A ranks they don't seem to want to make new ones, 7.3 was an exception because we needed 3 AR valks for a team to exist

[vapid maple]

I just like feeling of achievement when I finally managed to farm them to SSS

[vale granite]

I doubt you've alr farmed everything else to SSS

That is farmable ofc

[vapid maple]

I have all A ranks ranked up to SSS, but war treasury S ranks no

[vale granite]

What about Battle Storm?
She's a B-rank (like other starter valks), and is not as easy to farm

[vapid maple]

WAIT, WILL THEY EVEN GIVE WAR TREASURY PT2 VALK LIKE ELY OR SIRIN???

[edgy drift]

doesn't seem like it for now

we didn't get one last year

[vapid maple]

I'm close but no not yet, I'm buying their frags in daily shop 😔

[vapid maple]

Coping the Helia S rank is farmable, I'm gonna be poor after next patch

[edgy drift]

kek

[vale granite]

Keep coping lmao, obviously that ship is gone

Sparkle or Dudu should've been farmable, but they aren't

[rustic stump]

Why?

[vale granite]

Some people get bored quite quickly

Though that's mostly cuz they're not interested in learning the intricacies of a character

[rustic stump]

Not as used as much as part 2(unless old player), because pt2 is cheaper

[vale granite]

You don't wanna backpull regardless of P2 existing

[muted mauve]

Teri. The valkyrie that released on this year's "War Treasury Patch" if it had existed was Teri.

[vale granite]

And the use rate is about the same as if P2 didn't exist (maybe a little bit less, but that's just variation)

[vale granite]

Oh, yeah, you're right

Well, 1 of the 3 then
The point still stands ofc

[rustic stump]

True

[glass nacelle]

I'm pretty bored playing p1 valk atm even if they have dlc

[rustic stump]

Is that why in under a year we keep getting new pt1 battlesuits?

[rustic stump]

Including the ones introduced in 1.5?

[vale granite]

Are you talking about dkeys? Kiana and HoHE are extremely popular characters, ofc they're gonna lift them from their deathbeds

[vapid maple]

I'm having flashback for old pt1 bronyas and their gameplay is just charging up canon, waiting, release, and repeat

[rustic stump]

No. I’m talking about Sleepy Teri, loli Dudu and Badum Kiana

[vale granite]

Ah, you meant in that way

I don't really think it's related to gameplay reasons

[rustic stump]

How so?

[glass nacelle]

yeah most of them are quite expensive and easily replaceable

[vale granite]

Dudu's last battlesuit was in 5.5, Teri's (that's the main Theresa, not a spinoff) was idk when lmfao, and Kiana is very popular + she's the game's mascot

And there are appreciators of all 3 of these chars

[rustic stump]

Fair enough

[edgy drift]

we were teased a Teri for 1.5 and never got her

[vapid maple]

Celestial hymn mega evolution

[edgy drift]

The last 3 Teri were Luna, SA and CH, with CH being the only main line one

[gleaming imp]

As a p1 boomer I'm happy with the major influx of p1 cast getting new suits since it appeals to my nostalgia

[unique swallow]

@slate elm when was the last real Teri

[unique swallow]

Oh

[vale granite]

💀 💀

[edgy drift]

Oh I guess TP counts

tho it's kinda only half a valk

Oh LK was after CH too

tho again that's just smol Luna and not main line

[vapid maple]

Was she the last valk to get augment or was it molotov

[edgy drift]

more than half her suits are AU stuff

[edgy drift]

The last was Delta

so good it killed augments

[rustic stump]

Yeah we have her as an AstalOp though now

[edgy drift]

That's not the same one either tho

[rustic stump]

It’s not?

[edgy drift]

We had this on the same cutscene that showed us Garuda for the first time

[vapid maple]

Captainverse my ass when it was actually teriverse the whole time

[rustic stump]

Isn’t this Lunar Vow, but in the normal world?

[edgy drift]

That's Theresa

[vale granite]

There's no LV in the main story

[edgy drift]

so yes ?

[vapid maple]

Hopefully they're saving it for the future and it wasn't scrapped 😭

[gleaming imp]

I wish this was a suit

[edgy drift]

it's mega scrapped

[vale granite]

Or anyone similar other than being Theresa

[vapid maple]

😭

[rustic stump]

I know. I’m trying to say she looks like Lunar Vow if Lunar was the main Teri.

Man, I wish this was the new battlesuit.

[shrewd socket]

Amb-

[edgy drift]

I mean yeah, it's a more grown up Teri

not by much but a bit

[rustic stump]

True

[unique swallow]

Vishnu devoured it from the game files

[rustic stump]

[still condor]

i cant believe i thought we would get a new teri back in kolosten

[glass nacelle]

oh i thought hyperion lounge today

[copper shale]

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300 fps rot

[short knoll]

aren't that just like any old valk ever? the mechanic doesnt change anything, vita replace sena in many team already

[rustic stump]

That’s my point lol

[edgy drift]

Vita only takes Sena's spot with ranks tho

[short knoll]

but you blame the new mechanic for old valk not being used as much which is???

[rustic stump]

That’s still my stance.

[gleaming imp]

Most likely they're referring to how the p2 dmg ceiling being way higher than the p1/1.5 valks even with high ranks while the p2 valks are only at s0

[short knoll]

doesnt change the fast that they haven't got replaced yet and old valk not getting much use is normal

they even give new support for old valk

[gleaming imp]

But p1 ice support where and what even is there for it to support?

[rustic stump]

Thank you!

[rustic stump]

2 qua and 1 img battlesuit and 2 stellar keys

[short knoll]

? what wrong with that

[gleaming imp]

Too expensive I assume?

[short knoll]

?

[gleaming imp]

Teriteri 7.7, hofin dkey 7.8, sparkle 7.9, 8.0 smol dudu, 8.1 Ely dk, no break or time to save up crystals and get all of this to support the p1 valks? I'm just assuming

[short knoll]

isnt that normal? i missed a lot of old support too

[gleaming imp]

I skipped sp and support gear and just went for f2p alternatives

[still condor]

you were never meant to pull every patch as a f2p anyways

[gleaming imp]

But what about the people who have no self control and can't resist the urge to pull

[still condor]

quite literally the definition of a skill issue

[rustic stump]

Yeah

[short knoll]

idk, but they seem to blame the new mechanic for everything that happen to old valk even though it's normal

and they said old valk got replaced after few patches which is wrong?

[rustic stump]

If I didn’t pull for every weather, I would have been worse off.

Matter of fact, Vita, HoFi DK, Sparkle and Loli Dudu saved my bacon

[gleaming imp]

Small dudu bait valk would rather save my crystals for tall dudu

[rustic stump]

Can we just end this convo, and talk about CN gameplay instead?

[unique swallow]

Skip 7.7 and 8.0 it's really not that hard

[rustic stump]

Wait for APHO 3/ APHO arc in pt2

[still condor]

and 7.9

[gleaming imp]

Previous dudu Valk was img phys and new one is img phys with any luck tall p2 Dudu will also be img phys

[unique swallow]

If you have to pull for every weather that says more about you than the game tbh

[unique swallow]

7.9 LoA carry

[rustic stump]

I started in 7.6

[unique swallow]

Ok that doesn't mean you don't skip Teri and dudu

[rustic stump]

All I need is Ely DK and I’m good

[gleaming imp]

You could've possibly got a free dkey if there was one from mini spending event ticket

[rustic stump]

I should of skipped Teri because I’ve lucked out of her weap

Dudu saved my chances in phy weather

[rustic stump]

Really?

[still condor]

not a recent one

obviously

[gleaming imp]

Old dkey still good though for +10 atk

Speaking of free dkey, free xuanyun sword and twin of eden when?

I'm still missing those

[grim notch]

Free dkey?

[gleaming imp]

From a mini spending event ticket

[rustic stump]

I got a box of DK to choose from I think? I don’t know which one to choose. I only have the one for fire, ice and phy buffs and HoFi. What other old DK I should I get ?

[gleaming imp]

Any old dk you're missing

[rustic stump]

Juda

I don’t think the box has it though

[unique swallow]

JDS??

[rustic stump]

All I see is Star of Eden, abyss flowers and a few others, but no Judas

[rustic stump]

I’m missing her weap

Unfortunately

[unique swallow]

There was a xy sword from mini spending

[unique swallow]

You started during her patch how

[rustic stump]

I didn’t have enough crystals for her weap

[unique swallow]

Ez beginner xtals

[spare folio]

Guys how much good dps badum kiana and elysia dkey is ? Yay or nay

[unique swallow]

[gleaming imp]

Wasn't that like 40k crystals for one old dkey?

[unique swallow]

40k is like 1 valk + wep

[gleaming imp]

That's a skem

[rustic stump]

I didn’t finished that many chapters during her patch

That was me being dumb before finding this discord

[short knoll]

that is a bonus smh, normally you dont get the dkey

[vale granite]

1. You've gotta make PoS in Foundry and get Judah from Exchange Shop
2. Keep the box until there is only 1 option left

[short knoll]

1 dkey wont change anything below nirvana

just keep for later

[glass nacelle]

[rustic stump]

I’m waiting until I have enough AEs to make a PoS. I want to make a how bunch of them

Like 50 or more

[rustic stump]

Oh ok

[vale granite]

Fair enough
I hope you're farming them up from OW tasks alr?

[rustic stump]

Yes. I’m currently on APHO 2

[terse ravine]

Badum good
Ely, needs Thel and SS Sera to be good

[glass nacelle]

in fact she isn't very good at single target

[unique swallow]

She’s not that bad™️

[glass nacelle]

That's also why 3/4 her weathers are multiple targets

[spare folio]

What about ely sena vita or ely badum kiana vita ?

Are those viable team ?

[terse ravine]

Ely badly needs Thel sadly, but ig Ely Sena Vita can still work depend on how you expect her to be
Badum doesn't sync with Ely.

[still condor]

theres a few bosses that ely does that needs either freeze or shieldbreak, thelema provides both

[nova osprey]

Is there even an ely boss where u dont need either

[terse ravine]

shadow tank

[nova osprey]

Ari farming

[spare folio]

Which character can I use to do the freeze ? I suck at abyss when that freeze rime trauma ot something comes in abyss
I don't have thelema

[nova osprey]

[still condor]

hellmaru

[still condor]

none for dkey HoH

thelema is currently the only p2 valk capable of freezing

[terse ravine]

oof

[spare folio]

What about p1

A rank

[terse ravine]

ig just use Kira at worst

[still condor]

no point getting the dkey with p1

[terse ravine]

4/4 Kira

[still condor]

would need either pardo with bastet M or kira with her sig guns

[nova osprey]

Unless its sss 4/4 kira and jk dont even try

[spare folio]

How do I get kira's 4/4 now lol
I bruteforce every abyss and stuff with my vita team, but once that freeze floor comes I can't clear loll

[still condor]

if you dont have it then just cope ig

[terse ravine]

i'd just say that DKey Ely couldn't solve ur problem

[supple furnace]

You dont

[terse ravine]

if ure getting DKey Ely just slap anything u have for supports

[still condor]

not worth backpulling, just wait for a new freeze valk or pull thelema

[short knoll]

hoh without thelema could be enough for redlotus

good chance that new ice valk will come soon, she could be good with hoh

[glass nacelle]

And she replaces hoh

[glass nacelle]

Freeze valk but doesn't have shadow tag

[still condor]

[nova osprey]

Its a wod valk, but she also needs thel for freeze and shieldbreak

[rustic stump]

I always wondered why is Badum a Gun user when her weapon is a staff?

[gleaming imp]

Pull thelema adv on 8.2 for the SS

Don’t you want thelema S2

[unique swallow]

She isn't the first

[twin dune]

I believe we can hit the integr limit

[still vine]

same reason CE is a lightsaber user when her weapon is a cross

[twin dune]

Character was made with a speciffic weapon in mind but unlike pgr characters never swap weapons. Except teri ig. The others will stay the same using their speciffic weapon

[rustic stump]

Yeah I forgot about that lol

[unique swallow]

Hfs

[gleaming imp]

New great sword user when?

[rustic stump]

Yeah but it’s kinda weird when sleepy Teri and Loli Dudu are using different weapons at the moment

[hazy seal]

Senti

[unique swallow]

They're in the mars simulation

[hazy seal]

I just assume that's due to the Mars computer shit

[gleaming imp]

It’s so no one can just use alternatives I think despite weapons being cheap now

[hazy seal]

[rustic stump]

And Kiana is in her own lalaland

[unique swallow]

Still different

[gleaming imp]

At least Kiana is still pistol

[still condor]

they shouldnt have changed anyones weapons

[gleaming imp]

Oh yeah I just realized if apho Mei is a thing we can use 7T with her

[rustic stump]

But her gameplay is a trick staff

[unique swallow]

[still condor]

inb4 she gets swapped to a different weapon

but also why would you even waste your time with 7T

[gleaming imp]

people use 7T on HoO

[still condor]

just pull sig

[still vine]

no they don't

[unique swallow]

HI3 trick staffs don't look like that

[gleaming imp]

I remember last starless boss for HoO being 7T no?

[unique swallow]

There's like 1 use case for that

[rustic stump]

It doesn’t look like a gun either

[feral epoch]

it's should be considered chain blades without the chain

[still condor]

it doesnt even matter what weapon they equip

[rustic stump]

It doesn’t?

[still condor]

no

[rustic stump]

Fair enough

[rustic stump]

Really?

[still condor]

it only matters if you affixed the wrong weapon affix or wanted alt weapons ig

but just git gud for those

[rustic stump]

So it’s just for show?

[still condor]

pretty much
some valks you dont even see the weapon they have equipped at all

[rustic stump]

Reminds me of HoV

[gleaming imp]

Omg just like my queen yae miko

[still vine]

[still condor]

who?

[gleaming imp]

[short knoll]

first teri didnt use her cross most of the time, only the wp skill summon it, not even her skill

[glass nacelle]

does badum have it

[still condor]

doesnt look like it, but she does have hp loss dmg share

[twin dune]

Executioner teri:

Other than that yeah or ig luna aswell

[still condor]

and her weapon skill or dream collab can reduce max hp by 8% without shards 1 time

[twin dune]

Seems like someone read ba dum tss skills

[still condor]

i just opened the page

[glass nacelle]

this might be the reason they didn't put sd mobs in this patch

[feral epoch]

yet

[glass nacelle]

flux tank today ig

[mossy escarp]

ew

[glass nacelle]

ew

[gleaming imp]

Omg my SS mobius is going to slay, my snake queen on top and will always be meta

@abstract night mobius meta real

[mossy escarp]

totally not loa weather

[gleaming imp]

Is that not a bio mob?

[feral epoch]

[mossy escarp]

ded

[gleaming imp]

I always believed that starless andrius would rerun

This means that my snake queen has a boss still that isn’t just a one time run

[still vine]

[glass nacelle]

vita brute force ez

[gleaming imp]

It’s right there

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

No mobius no top 3

Unless somehow no one has mobius

I’m happy that p1 boomers are being catered to

[feral epoch]

what catered

[gleaming imp]

Starless weathers, they’re perfect for us p1 boomers since we probably have the valk the weather is for

[feral epoch]

where starless weathers

[gleaming imp]

Is that not a starless weather? It looks like a bio mob

[gleaming imp]

It’s LoA?

Wait, what type is the mob?

[mossy escarp]

ass

[gleaming imp]

Bio type?

I got excited for nothing

[willow pumice]

badum durandal team

[gleaming imp]

Oh that make sense

[glass nacelle]

elybad

[mossy escarp]

lmao

[nova osprey]

Smh u didnt pay attention to the weather symbol

[mossy escarp]

ded

[gleaming imp]

Well you see I’m a gacha player so I have a alibi

[nova osprey]

Invalid because u should at least memorize the symbol of ur waifu weathers

[gleaming imp]

But I have reading issues

[nova osprey]

Smh fake fan

[gleaming imp]

[nova osprey]

Cant even memorize waifu weathers

[gleaming imp]

In my defense I have extremely terrible memory like the forget in a few seconds and need to repeat like 3-5 times type of memory

[feral epoch]

how to play in nirv

[gleaming imp]

Omg a nirv without SS vita or SS sparkle

[feral epoch]

[naive zinc]

silly question but do we have freebies like anni since cny is our anni now

and is there any free S rank ?

nvm

[somber egret]

Sleeb

[plucky cradle]

[hard meadow]

who has ss sparkle

[gleaming imp]

I usually see ss on sparkle

[copper shale]

u mean s2?

i see a lot of s2 not ss

[hard meadow]

theres like 2 or 3 guys in whole EU server who have SS sparkle (in nirvana)

yeah vita ranks everyone has but sparkle?

[naive zinc]

cause she just that mid

[unique swallow]

Why s2

What p2 valk needs more sp

[fervent hinge]

Is the answer Sparkle?

[copper shale]

no just for hotr xd

[hard meadow]

but sparkle dont give herself more sp with s2

[fervent hinge]

Scam

[hard meadow]

only with ss 🐳

[languid grotto]

Do we know what the shop bundles are next patch?

[glass nacelle]

I thought wolf shield has phys immune

[mossy escarp]

maybe its some recent change so you can use dudu

[plucky cradle]

dudu in 2025

[mossy escarp]

hi3 in 2025

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel in 2025

[glass nacelle]

Denwhel in 2035

[plucky cradle]

[hoary mountain]

mobius my beloved

[feral epoch]

only for this weather iirc

[copper shale]

dudu w

[glass nacelle]

[hoary mountain]

i keep thinking that emote is thelema

[copper shale]

ig they r both white hair

[feral epoch]

she is thelema, but fire

[plucky cradle]

this andrius' shield is white

[hoary mountain]

also both pale as the moon

[plucky cradle]

palema

[hoary mountain]

ok hear me out here

[glass nacelle]

Dudu w

[plucky cradle]

dudu in 2025

[hoary mountain]

am i tripping or do they just randomly draw thelema slightly less pale occasionally

and then in game shes dracula

[plucky cradle]

thelemelatonin

she can have whatever skin tone she wants

genshin's final boss

[hoary mountain]

[glass nacelle]

What's best team in this cycle

[plucky cradle]

just use recommended team

[copper shale]

i need that pic where they recommend with lantern

lol

[plucky cradle]

[mossy escarp]

cant be any worse than this

[glass nacelle]

💀

[plucky cradle]

(they still recommend this team on extra stage)

[feral epoch]

best hoh team

[copper shale]

fr fr

[ember locust]

How to bald you mean

[ember locust]

Are you f*cking

Kidding me

While using Kiana is just better at this point

[fervent hinge]

LMFAO

[ember locust]

Either Kiana RoO or LoA

[fervent hinge]

intern-kun should try playing the game

damn

[copper shale]

they alr messing up with names and stuff, give them a break

[ember locust]

It's just like when devs proposes EZA and SEZA on Dokkan but are the the worst bc the devs doesn't play their own games

[fervent hinge]

no

[fervent hinge]

I don't know what that sentence means but I guess I'll just smile and nod in agreement

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tENUeXEpg

His account has been saving crystals from 2020 to 6.2024

💀

[potent compass]

What is this team?

[hoary mountain]

imagine telling a victorian honkai impact player this will be a reccomended team in 2025

[feral epoch]

in 8.2 can 360% Mode Astral Ops

[muted mauve]

interesting BP changes

[willow pumice]

HI3 v8.2 BP and Crystallum Changes
https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/62006214
https://i.imgur.com/pLDWa6M.png

[glass nacelle]

Outfit op trust

Sera outfit

[foggy tendon]

someone actually called this the other day, or something along these lines

i have to wonder if they looked at leaks or have a crystal ball

[glass nacelle]

They just return before 4.2 bp

[feral epoch]

no, sera valk

[rain spindle]

why does fire weather Ganesha stage still exist on abyss?

[feral epoch]

to make you suffer

[rain spindle]

it's clearable, just annoying

[glass nacelle]

Kek

[grand viper]

[glass nacelle]

8.3 bp is luna. No info about 8.2 bp

[feral epoch]

wow

only 1 valk card and no elf card in 8.3

[glass nacelle]

No stamp
L

[somber egret]

I'd bet it's sena,

That BP overhaul definitely to cater on P2 Battlesuits entering BP

[feral epoch]

sudden bet

[nova osprey]

I cant buy stamps before i get bp right

[glass nacelle]

Hrb hfi where

[muted mauve]

there's something between valk card and weapon

[feral epoch]

beside lv card is stamps no?

[somber egret]

They suddenly pulled Sena + Luna in starter before as well

[muted mauve]

I see orange white and green so ig Kiana

[feral epoch]

if elf card will be golden bg

[glass nacelle]

I thought it's brick

[nova osprey]

How new/old u guys think the wp/stogs they will add in that reserve shop

[feral epoch]

old

[hoary mountain]

if they put sera in BP any time i will litteraly get a job, a husband and a credit card. all the things that make a good man

[muted mauve]

I'm not standard BP to know valk vs elf vs weapon position

[nova osprey]

Like how old, 5.5 gears and older or

[glass nacelle]

Inb4 sena card 40 wp 32

[feral epoch]

gold

[feral epoch]

oh, i thought you were talking about the ui shop

[rain spindle]

wow balls are now permanent on 8.2 onwards?

[somber egret]

[rain spindle]

and still no free Vill-wa

[glass nacelle]

V2v in 2025

[hoary mountain]

would you guys vote vill-v for president

[rain spindle]

wasn't she good for like Kosma boss fight?

[glass nacelle]

Maybe v1 next week bcs they post qna early ?

[rain spindle]

like that's her only niche

[muted mauve]

Let me sleep then reread it. Realized I'm too tired to comprehend what they are trying to tell me.

[glass nacelle]

They should give more ball in bp
8.2 bp is closed after 8.5 update

[grand viper]

Xuanyuan Sword

[nova osprey]

Big if true

[grand viper]

they are gonna put the USP EX into it

[nova osprey]

I hope xys, af, and fhd are in it, so i can finally have all dkey at 1 copy

[grand viper]

Nuclear Pri in reserve shop

[glass nacelle]

I thought it's farmable

[grand viper]

what is farmable ?

[dreamy pendant]

@sinful crown

[glass nacelle]

Nuclear cannon

[sinful crown]

[dreamy pendant]

am I reading it wrong or is this like really good?

Like really good for those trying to complete older sets

[grand viper]

[glass nacelle]

[grand viper]

there is no nuclear cannon unless you are confusing it with something else

[hard meadow]

return to lucion

[grand viper]

this is what I'm referring to

[glass nacelle]

[grand viper]

I have one of these in my inventory which means I'm cool

[sinful crown]

is it like, we'll get access to past 2 patches BP items if we purchase the current one?

[dreamy pendant]

Seems like it
And the other smaller features seem like a good way to get old stuff

seems like something HSR would need tbh

[sinful crown]

what hsr needs is 3d reruns

[dreamy pendant]

3d?

[grand viper]

why though ?
the herta shop and the Forgotten Hall already exist

[sinful crown]

3 day reruns

[dreamy pendant]

“Battelsuits, weapons and stigmata”
Meaning older stuff is obtainable via not banners

HSR would need something like that as we have more 5* than Genshin

[dreamy pendant]

Ah, with amount of 5* we have maybe 1d would be better then

[muted mauve]

I'm stupid it's probably just stamps

[dreamy pendant]

Don’t say this, you are smart

[sinful crown]

pretty good update

[dreamy pendant]

I can’t even put the , in the right place am a disappointment

[glass nacelle]

Where hrb bp

[unique swallow]

So does this mean you can't buy weap/stigs in the 3 patch BP shop unless you buy knight/paladin

[hard meadow]

no the valk card

like its now

[short knoll]

wait, big update?

[feral epoch]

small update

[nova osprey]

Bp changes, crystalium becomes permanent

[unique swallow]

but the text says crystallum can be exchanged if you buy knight/paladin

Doesn’t specify Valk card

[short knoll]

i see AO skin is coming

[feral epoch]

bp almost like reverted back to old style

[short knoll]

no? you can buy stuffs of current season, but need to buy bp to buy old stuffs

guess the cost will be changed too, to fit p2 valk cost

f2p can get valk + 4/4 now

[nova osprey]

Surely xys will be in there

[short knoll]

i see luna in 8.3 bp, dkey soon?

[unique swallow]

literally nowhere does it say you need to buy BP for the reserve shop

[twin dune]

Is there a list for BP stuff?

[short knoll]

not sure what you mean, im only talking about bp shop

reserve shop seem like something you buy with new BP currency if any

[feral epoch]

yet

[short knoll]

and no season

[twin dune]

Well i m glad my leftover balls won t just turn to torus

[feral epoch]

will still be torus

[short knoll]

8.2 is vintage for current ball iirc, will disappear

[final locust]

tf is a terbata

i just want hohe in there so i can ss1

[short knoll]

wait, i see brick in 8.3 bp too

[glass nacelle]

it's luna stamp

[short knoll]

look more like brick to me

[feral epoch]

bricked

[mossy escarp]

luna cross ?

oh second item ic

[shrewd socket]

should be red smh

[feral epoch]

i don't get where you guys see brick in the picture or even kiana elf

if brick in shop it will have grey colour, non pri version

[hard meadow]

luna stamps?

[mossy escarp]

y its stamp 100%

[glass nacelle]

buy current bp to unlock kek

[mossy escarp]

eww

[feral epoch]

because it's always valk card + stamps in bp shop

[short knoll]

dont remember what brick look like but i only remember red and white and kinda like rectangle shape, guess it's stamp

[verbal mountain]

well I guess it's nice that I saved my knight and pala tix

can use them on new bp I assume

[glass nacelle]

main qol fr

[short knoll]

make way for ao skin

[feral epoch]

no

[grand viper]

would be even better if they added back bridge appreciation mode

[glass nacelle]

wolf shield is thick need dudu

[feral epoch]

said this before

[twin dune]

I feel like hoyo just shit on me with this BP. I pulled to get a 2nd luna stig and weap. Turns out i can just get the stigs and weapon from BP...

[feral epoch]

and later maybe she gets new sets

[twin dune]

I could see luna getting a dkey like better judah

Similar to star of eden and star of eden world

[glass nacelle]

imagine not 4/4 when she debuts

[feral epoch]

can't sss on her debuts

[twin dune]

Didn t have crystals saved i spent them all on seele since seele has a sweet spot in my heart as she was my first S rank from dorm and first to SSS

[somber egret]

Sera skin coming

[hard meadow]

imagine backpulling

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

DS skin first

[twin dune]

She s a fun valk. You only get so many chainsaw weilding maniacs

[short knoll]

imagine leylah is DS skin

[feral epoch]

not fun, just comfy.

[shrewd socket]

doesn't justify

[final locust]

she will get a dkey to become boring trust

[feral epoch]

she's already boring

[glass nacelle]

next thelema level valk when

[feral epoch]

trust in kiana

[glass nacelle]

tf the boss stage bgm

no more wolf theme

[short knoll]

sushang will be the new thel trust

[glass nacelle]

vita stellar shift dmg is big kek

[verbal mountain]

vitagood

[somber egret]

Vitagood

[hoary mountain]

vitagood?

[slate elm]

minivita good?

[feral epoch]

[hoary mountain]

every day i wake up and thank whoever came up with giving free Herrscher of human and follow it up with a divine key

you dont know much many trophies i lost cuz i dont have a finality and waxing moon

[hard meadow]

you don't know how many trophies you are going to lose cause your HoHe isn't SS+

[hoary mountain]

[verbal mountain]

hofi was free in spending event

[feral epoch]

i dont have a finality, hotr, horb and still nirv bouncer sometimes myriad

[hoary mountain]

i didnt get enough crystals

[unique swallow]

so in let's say 8.4 you can only buy from 8.3 and 8.2 shops?

[hoary mountain]

guys

if you would rate divine keyd elysia from Lantern to Thelema how would you rate her

[short knoll]

8.2 8.3 8.4

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

but you need to buy bp to unlock 8.2 8.3

[glass nacelle]

f2p can't exchange items anymore idk if that's good or bad. only exchange from reserve shop

[short knoll]

?

[unique swallow]

hm ok

[short knoll]

wdym can't

[verbal mountain]

only need bp to get previous bp items

[short knoll]

1 set available each version
buy bp to unlock previous 2 version

[feral epoch]

hmm, does this mean i can buy 8.3 bp shop during 8.2 patch?

[willow pumice]

It really does sound like f2p cant buy the item in normal shop anymore

[short knoll]

should be no

[glass nacelle]

it says buy bp to unlock shop

[willow pumice]

Makes sense actually cus you can stack up balls now.
“Uh cant let you get free LV full set for free’

[short knoll]

idk, they should just say buy bp to unlock the shop instead of saying previous and current

[feral epoch]

that's the only way to get your money

[short knoll]

that is 8.4 no?

buy bp to unlock 8.3 and 8.2

[willow pumice]

I kinda edited it out. The original pic has 8.4 and 8.3 shop locked, only 8.2 shop unlocked

[hard meadow]

buying bp unlocks current version shop and 2 previous version

[verbal mountain]

f2p kek?

f2p over?

[hard meadow]

and they will stay unlocked (until they rotate out)

[hard meadow]

f2p can still buy from the permanent shop

[muted mauve]

Purchase pass to unlock.
63 days remaining. 9 weeks...

[willow pumice]

Just win bp from raffle

[glass nacelle]

get 100 crys thanks

[feral epoch]

where new raffle

[verbal mountain]

deadge

[hard meadow]

lets be real not like f2p got anything from bp shop in current system either

with measly 5 ball per patch

[short knoll]

dkey

[feral epoch]

yea, still useless thing

[feral epoch]

what dkey

[short knoll]

7T

smh

[feral epoch]

i thought it's gone already

[short knoll]

still, f2p could get something currently

but i dont think they lock the shop behind bp, should just say buy bp to unlock the shop instead of that weird wording

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

People are genuinely starting to get angry at mihoyo for the unfinished UI reword and the documentary delay

[muted mauve]

Also I'm gonna go cry

@naive briar

[glass nacelle]

It doesn't matter if the version has more content

[naive briar]

[hard meadow]

delay? someone actually thinks it will come out

[dreamy pendant]

Why what happened

Carv no cry plz

[short knoll]

more 9 weeks patches, more bad sign

[mint cape]

Guys who's more meta starchasm nyx or mobius?

[glass nacelle]

I think they are more inclined to mock rather than actually watch documentary

[muted mauve]

stop living in delulu

[glass nacelle]

[mint cape]

What

[dreamy pendant]

Oh no

[mossy escarp]

its ok u'll get used to it

[short knoll]

eos is real

[glass nacelle]

[dreamy pendant]

NOOO

[naive briar]

since BP invoves payment I would guess we are getting all 9-week patches until the next change

[dreamy pendant]

Before we panic we should wait and see no? NO?

[muted mauve]

over 2 month wait between story chapters.

either increase chapter length to 10 hours or give us 2 chapters in one patch or shut.

who an I kidding. they gave us hour and a half chapter just now.

[dreamy pendant]

ALSO STOP MAKING ME WORRY AM VERY SUSCEPTIBLE

[naive briar]

but long patches benefit against revenue
I don't think they'd give more output

[mint cape]

Hey guys is 8.1 gonna come on 20 February or 26 February like last time because people keep telling it's in 20 February and 26 February

[glass nacelle]

20 feb

[dreamy pendant]

True

[naive briar]

20 feb ask the people please math

[glass nacelle]

meth in 2025

[dreamy pendant]

Maybe they are cooking something big
MAYBE THYE PLANNING APHO 3 IDK

[naive briar]

meth is just you

[dreamy pendant]

Ok no apho3 is more copium than eos soon tbh

[short knoll]

even if story get longer, it's still just a few days of content, also need more meaningful event

[manic talon]

20 feb is my birthday too

[hard meadow]

isnt revenue the same or less even. since its all tied to new valk release. (and now ppl have more time to even farm xtal between release)

[plucky cradle]

math in 2025

[hard meadow]

unless they make the pull system more greedy

[glass nacelle]

inb4 2 s rank

[naive briar]

assume there is at least 1 S rank new character per patch
6 week patchs earns you more tha 9 week patchs

[hard meadow]

yea. maybe i read wrong what you said initially

[naive briar]

[naive briar]

if this happens you're paying for my pulls

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

kurofund when

[hard meadow]

cause ppl spending in the game is very "per patch" not "per week" or "per month", so releasing more patch is more money

dont make any sense to delay

unless you literally cant release faster

[glass nacelle]

[dreamy pendant]

Unless they are making something big that requires more time?

[foggy tendon]

such as part 3

[somber egret]

S-ranl Helia and Coralie

[mossy cave]

like bringing all old valks into ER again...

[dreamy pendant]

We are not getting part 3 already

[verbal mountain]

I wouldn't mind constant long patches cuz low maintenance after the first like 3 weeks

and more cribbals

[dreamy pendant]

Maybe they need more time as they optimizing whole game after part 2 takes so much storage

[short knoll]

maybe less people are working on this game

[naive briar]

what storage https://x.com/chibi0108/status/1889612052064243903?t=euzky0HNgu2SJVhYKZhMow&s=19

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X · Feb 12, 2025, 9:46 AM

[muted mauve]

content is more important than gacha addiction

[dreamy pendant]

Why is Genshin 50GB??

[glass nacelle]

inb4 2 s rank
first 4 weeks banner and last 4 weeks banner

[verbal mountain]

as long as the game keeps going i'm fine with anything, just my personal opinion/preference

[hard meadow]

surely they will go back to ch1-3 style long chapters in 3 acts and just release an act every 3 weeks

[verbal mountain]

[muted mauve]

I rather mihoyo would communicate for once

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

was in the middle of update, old files not deleted

[dreamy pendant]

Makes sense then

[muted mauve]

If patches keep getting longer and story keeps getting shorter I might just quit.

[naive briar]

[fair linden]

it's almost like the writer of Hi3 went to write for HSR, oh wait.

[short knoll]

i dont really care about story length but would want more content

[hard meadow]

i mean its not like they are lacking writers (or if they are just hire more)

story length is very intentional decision

[short knoll]

also other department

[hard meadow]

im not suprised this cause first 3 patches people keep moaning all the time how story is too long

they listen to feedback and make it shorter

[short knoll]

patch length is more about gameplay than story i think

[hard meadow]

what gameplay

[short knoll]

event and stuffs

[hard meadow]

abyss/ma/er run on weekly cycle they dont ever need to release new patch if its just that

patch mean new story new valk new event

so i think story is pretty important part of it

[short knoll]

i mean how long a patch is should be more likely to be decided by gameplay related department

[hard meadow]

but hey if they have the feedback, or probably hard cold data, that majority of ppl are not finishing longer story or are just skipping it etc. then why keep writing so much

shame for us who enjoy more story but it is what it is

[glass nacelle]

problem with hi3 storytelling is that there's too much yapping. Reducing the amount of yapping has made story shorter

[hard meadow]

also true

there is more dynamic element like camerawork etc. now

less visual novel

[muted mauve]

you all call anything past 2 words yap

[hard meadow]

i have no problem with visual novel

i read them anyway

but clearly a lot of players do

[glass nacelle]

That is common problem with mihoyo, not just HI3

[hard meadow]

majority of players are children after all

i would like to say grown up on tiktoks but even back when i was in elementary school pretty much everyone hated reading

[steep axle]

Im happy its not hsr 3.0 10 hour quest

But like 7.5 hours we getting there

[glass nacelle]

10 hours quest with 5 hours puzzle

[short knoll]

idk, if many player say you are yapping, you are yapping
need to make your game fit your targetted audience, not vice versa

saying it's not yapping wont really change their mind

[abstract night]

Wait so.. its literally just an extended vintage shop.?

[short knoll]

not really, there are more twist and turn

ppl are worrying that f2p wont have access to BP shop
even if we do, it's 1 patch only

i guess reserve shop is the f2p shop now?

[abstract night]

Huh?

U lost me after "even if we do,"

Oh

Reserve shop is old asf stuff

So...a bp version of exchange shop?

[short knoll]

not really old asf stuff, that is exchange shop and foundry

[abstract night]

Fair enough

So lets say 6.0+