🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[final locust]

isnt 10% more ice dmg more value than 10% tdm

[glass nacelle]

no one uses ely elf, but ds does

[copper shale]

is the same

[final locust]

i meant 12% tdm

it's the same? i thought all damage buffs had diff value

[glass nacelle]

nope

same multiplier, more is less value

[steep tide]

Will we have notebook in 8.1 ?

[short knoll]

they dont say anything but you should expect no

[nova osprey]

All of them same value its just a matter of how much of it u already have

[copper shale]

pray

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dWNSeMEUp/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

s0 1510

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

🐳

[gleaming imp]

S2 vita and teriteri aop

[shrewd socket]

should i pull S teri aop if i get leftovers after pulling Kiana + dkey? i don't have any other limited aops and only lacking Lantern SImp and Sparkle from S ranks

[gleaming harbor]

aop is mostly for nirvana

[nova osprey]

I mean if u have the funds and need the spending event rewards go for it

[grand viper]

been sitting on 20 pity Aop pity since 7.3

[nova osprey]

I been sitting on 10

[grand viper]

why aren't you using kianaheavythoughts ?
you have nitro now

[nova osprey]

I dont have it

[grand viper]

I sent it to you

[glass nacelle]

[glass nacelle]

ew chicken today

[somber egret]

Tc chicken

[somber egret]

Free +100

[mossy escarp]

Why leak smh

[glass nacelle]

free -100

[plucky cradle]

wtf

whose boss is that

[hoary mountain]

Isnt that Fiery wishes boss

[mossy escarp]

Vita skin check no skin no score

[still condor]

type counter? that boss is bio right?

[plucky cradle]

yes

Vita's boss

[feral epoch]

[somber egret]

thel boss

SSS Vita tom

[plucky cradle]

[stark lodge]

Uh should I make a cn acc

[plucky cradle]

no

[novel elbow]

if u understand chinese language is fun

i made one but i can't even change to japanese so i dun understand anything

[hard meadow]

no need to understand all button are same anw

[upper mulch]

luna skin is good but is there anything even worth in spending 8.1 event

[copper shale]

elf frags and thats it ig

[upper mulch]

this is cooked

elf barely even used anymore kek

[copper shale]

horb maybe but main benefit is ma

[upper mulch]

[hard meadow]

horb stamps

[upper mulch]

s2 horb ig could be nice

[copper shale]

do u have p1 team

[upper mulch]

yeah

[copper shale]

do u do ma

[upper mulch]

all phys and trio and luna and a few others

i mean yeah but not for score just for rewards

like clear ones

[copper shale]

ig if u own all then s2 is still something

[hard meadow]

prep for horb dkey

[gleaming imp]

SSS finally

[hard meadow]

just 1 year too late

[gleaming imp]

The p2 p1 ice support Valk will revive hor trust

[gleaming imp]

The p2 p1 ice support Valk would need to have insane amount of buffs to make the p1 ice valks be able to do anything

[ember locust]

Tbh yeah and that would mean powercreeping Sushang/Kira

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xiNRevEef

[stark lodge]

Uhh what do you guys recommend more uhh the non bilibili version or uh bilibili ver

Since I uh downloaded the non bilibili version on the cn site

[copper shale]

wats is the non bilib ver

[stark lodge]

The uh the one from hi3 cn site

[copper shale]

ice resistance is not enough to stop thelema

[copper shale]

oh u want to play the cn version of the game?

[stark lodge]

Yeahh

[copper shale]

ik for bilibili prob u need id, for others not so sure but unless u are in cn i wouldnt try to play in cn

[abstract night]

Ice immunity can

Idk any ice immune bosses tho so

[stark lodge]

Oh, cuz uhh in the other ver I need a cn number or I have to play as guest I think?

[abstract night]

Aponia just highly resists it iirc

[copper shale]

yup sounds right, so u basically cant play cn even if u want tto

[stark lodge]

Oh Dam

[copper shale]

tho im not sure with other servers

maybe the cn peeps can help

is there any reason why u want to play the cn ver? r u living in cn?

[feral epoch]

[stark lodge]

Idk I just wanna play in cn server

I was able to play with the bilibili version back then but now I can't recieve my sms code AAAAAAGGGGH

[copper shale]

i see

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PsNZe6EDB/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

maybe

[feral epoch]

lower

[copper shale]

[copper shale]

u also ios or something?

whats ur d?

also do u have songque?

[glass nacelle]

Tc is less hp than lightning ver ig

[feral epoch]

517

[feral epoch]

SS songque

[glass nacelle]

Fund me ss teriop

[plucky cradle]

fund me ss kurowhel

[glass nacelle]

Fund me sss den

[copper shale]

there's this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1t8NRezE1K/

but man such a high d just sleep fr

[copper shale]

is this ios?

[somber egret]

Thel Slay

[terse ravine]

ugh

[feral epoch]

yes

[copper shale]

oh nice

[slim lion]

Omg bita weather

[glass nacelle]

skeen in 2025

[plucky cradle]

teriop

[soft prawn]

baited by hoyolab new official post, thought it was going to be artbook but its just theresa debut

[plucky cradle]

true theresa ruins everything

[somber egret]

teribad

[daring socket]

terible

[willow perch]

Aibad

[somber egret]

[willow perch]

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1anNae7EFQ

nice team

[twin dune]

/ai_chan_speak:" AI CHAN IS BETTER THAN YOU, CAPTAIN! AI CHAN BEAM ATTACK! PEW!!"

[terse ravine]

What is this Teriri blasphemy

[thick prawn]

[verbal mountain]

8.1 full p2 patch prayge

no lant weathers prayge

[final locust]

surely

nah man

another FoV and mobius boss sprinkled in

bc why not

[verbal mountain]

i mean this is 8.0, the only weathers p2 is screwed on are starless rime and ignite aka

they'll prob throw in an ignite boss and 2 starless bosses, maybe a bleed boss

[hard meadow]

im sure trio still does "ok" on rime

tho ofc demolished by any hua haver

aka yea sirin or get out

[edgy drift]

screwed is a big word

Only in Nirv they are

Vita did just fine on AKA in RL

And Rime is ok with HoO dps in trio dkey but that's still mostly p1

[hard meadow]

HoO dps better than kiana?

[edgy drift]

Ye, because you have the weather

HoO dps is AR off

unless you somehow have SSS HFI and S0 HoO, HoO should be better

she was actually doing pretty well last time even in nirv

The gap with FoV is absolutely unbeatable tho, even more with Spork now

Like regular FoV score will probably be above 850

[gleaming imp]

They should starless a consistent weather for us p1 boomers

[edgy drift]

there's about 2-3 P1 weathers per patch, seems enough to me

Starless is probably the one that's best for p2 out of all of them

[ember locust]

Lol Starless Vill/V/Senti

[hasty cedar]

wtf would starless vill-v even entail

she's so hitcount-dependent

[ember locust]

The only current Bleed DPSs can do the hitcount

[main goblet]

noo not starless again
my only geared valks are the p2 units 😭

[vast citrus]

What's the current bis teams for new Kiana and HoHe dk?

[verbal mountain]

kiana depends on boss
for hohe it's almost always thel + sena (Vita at high rank) afaik

[vast citrus]

Okay so I'm set if I wanna pull DK then at least.

For Kiana... I got everyone but Lantern, Sparkle and Durandal. So I assume I'd be good with the team comps?

I'll be back pulling Sparkle regardless of how people feel about her cause I just like the character, only didn't get her rn cause spending event saving.

[verbal mountain]

dudu's only used on one boss, sparkle's good but i think even without her it'll be pretty good

[vast citrus]

I could probably pick up Dudu, but idk. I've got 36k atm, and I'm on 34 valk pity and 50 weapon with a couple cards so I'm set on Kiana and DK at the very least.

Dancing between RL and Ag3 income + Paladin BP and monthly. (also at least 8k of crystal in unlocked but not done Elysian Realm characters)

[verbal mountain]

don't think you should get dudu atp unless you just want her

[vast citrus]

tbh the only motivation is just how much physical sucks that has me wanting to get her, but I've been feeling like Horb might be getting something based off current trends so I'm like.

Kind of just, holding off.

[gleaming imp]

Skip smol Dudu wait for horb dkey that’ll happen eventually, smol dudu bait easy skip

[vast citrus]

[gleaming imp]

I hope they just do 9 week patches from now on would make the game more adv only friendly for me

[vast citrus]

hrm, if I have Horb and I will get a dk for her if one drops. Should I actually aim for frags from the spending event? It doesn't look like there is anything else that valuable in there this time around.

IK I'm gonna be able to take HoHe to at least S2 by using the drop from pulling on a single stamp. Could SS if I wanted to buy the box, but I'm kinda w/e on that unless it would hugely change her value.

[still condor]

HoRb only really needs s2 or SSS, her other ranks are kinda whatever

[vast citrus]

Alright. So get the fragments so she's S2, as for Elysia, does SS do anything for her?

[gleaming imp]

SS good, SS is the average expected ely rank since she’s popular and got simps

[vast citrus]

Ugh. I guess I'll spend on the box then. She's s1 rn, I'll get a single stamp to s2.

[abstract night]

Resist all elements but fire
Hitcount 1st phase intro
Hitcount right before it dies

Cope but works

Ah

Then its just sparkle boss

Smack lantern there. .

[small wing]

I love entering nirv and suddenly abyss runs take twice as long as they need to

[tiny jolt]

is AstralOp Teri good?

[willow pumice]

Yes for LoA, and vita dps

[gleaming imp]

8.1 funds

[hard meadow]

whel

[fervent hinge]

wtf

[rain spindle]

whel and prepared for 8.1

[gusty thistle]

Wtf

[abstract night]

What r u pulling again

[hard meadow]

believe me its better u dont know

[gleaming imp]

Ely dk, eepy Teri weapon, and hofin adv either 50/100 pulls on it still deciding

[abstract night]

Ba dum?

[gleaming imp]

I decided to skip

[abstract night]

Wait

U dont even own teri

[gleaming imp]

Yes that is correct, it’s mainly to take advantage of spending event and also since eepy Teri will be getting her adv in about 4 patches from 8.1

[abstract night]

Sena adv?

I havent seen such thing yet

[gleaming imp]

Senabad

[abstract night]

Not the point

[gleaming imp]

It’ll most likely be after spending event

[abstract night]

[final locust]

stop banking on these advs myguy

they very likely are not gonna happen

[gleaming imp]

What makes a p2 valk different from previous valks that makes it so they can’t get a adv?

[final locust]

that theyre relevant

[gleaming imp]

But lamp bad?

What does she even do, vita and ely exist

[final locust]

still has somewhat of a place in meta

still gonna be the best for hitcount and symphony hellmaru or anything else thele/ely has

[gleaming imp]

As a fire dps why use her when hofin or new Kiana exists

[abstract night]

I mean

Does every valk have to be godtier omega powerful

[final locust]

lanern butt

[gleaming imp]

I mean no but like lamp is kind of weak to me, she’s losing to vita on a boss that’s hers

[final locust]

because mobius and fire tank exist

[abstract night]

Shes just not broken

[gleaming imp]

Fire tank just use new Kiana or hofin on

[final locust]

yeah gl with that

when lantern has thelema and type counter she's obv gonna do better

[gleaming imp]

I mean s0 lamp dmg though?

[glass nacelle]

her damage is on par with s0 ely

[gleaming imp]

S0 Ely in 2025?

I can't judge my horb is still s0

[glass nacelle]

literally me

[short knoll]

p2 valk will get adv banner eventually, no one can escape that fate

[gleaming imp]

eepy Teri at SS will be real for my account eventually

[feral epoch]

my horb is locked

[glass nacelle]

hrb in 2025

[abstract night]

Waste of xtals

But like what do i know

[gleaming imp]

But the nostalgia appeal

[abstract night]

Who likes the zipper

[gleaming imp]

And I’ll have a qua dps

[abstract night]

Quas niche

[gleaming imp]

It may be niche but it’ll be a boost for my senawho

[abstract night]

Vita and HoFi are usualy better

[gleaming imp]

But being able to actually have a third character with stellar drain

[abstract night]

What?

[gleaming imp]

You know the thing that makes the number on the astral ring go up

[abstract night]

Wait

Why would u run Vita Hofi teri

[gleaming imp]

Senawho vita eepy Teri

[abstract night]

HoFi.?

[gleaming imp]

Eepy Teri gives more detonations I think

[atomic coral]

you know sena can stellar drain twice in the same combo right

[gleaming imp]

She can? Is this a rank thing?

[atomic coral]

it's a sena thing

[abstract night]

Ask gameplay/beginner help 😔

[gleaming imp]

I never noticed

[feral epoch]

what boost ?

helia better for her

if no hofi vita

[glass nacelle]

[steady granite]

MY WIFE

I miss her dearly

[glass nacelle]

this team doesn't have hit count

L

[gleaming imp]

Well erm um actually my senawho will be using s2 vita and SS eepy Teri and my eepy Teri wouldn’t be s0 🤓

[nova osprey]

She doesnt place marks

[gleaming imp]

Then senawho places the marks I think

[nova osprey]

Also in sena teams u already have more procers than the amount of detonation

So more detonation also doesnt do much

When u dont have anymore marks to detonate

[glass nacelle]

Flawless Benediction

[feral epoch]

rip pristine

[somber egret]

Luna Outfit - Redolent in Red

Ode to Goddess

[steady granite]

and EN beta is still not here, smh

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-17550107775956741096

[scarlet stream]

[short knoll]

that should be it, no book this year

2 book next year trust

[scarlet stream]

No book…

[nova osprey]

No more books for regional, cn only

[grand viper]

#glblul #seakek

[steady granite]

ignore the giveaway pvp, I'd give them money if they at least added the TLed ver to shop

[exotic osprey]

They scammed me out of the last one

Sneakily changed list of countries they ship to after I'd filled it in

And I didn't notice until I contacted support way after

If I'd known I'd have shipped it to a relative in the US

😔

I wanted those HoFi concepts

But whatever

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kNNoeeEdP

siren in 2025

[willow pumice]

[plucky cradle]

ag3

[glass nacelle]

thought u are nirvana

[gleaming imp]

The Coralie weapon being ws2

It's always either 1 or 3

[clear vigil]

[frosty plank]

Did I really waste half a year coming back to this shit game for them to scam me on art book vol 3?

[fervent hinge]

Yep

#glblul #sealul

[frosty plank]

Give me a survey mihoyo

[short knoll]

time to quit

[frosty plank]

yeah thankfully I didn't do dailies today. Already uninstalled on my phone

[junior nova]

Only cn gets book ..

Why does mhy hate us?

[gleaming imp]

#glblul moment

[glass nacelle]

Cnonly glblul

[fervent hinge]

They never cared about glblul half as much as cn

Surprised SEA gets shafted tho

Remember when they replaced glb HoRb rerun with literally no banner at all and then HoTr rerun with JK rerun in the same patch

[dreamy pendant]

Wait we don’t get book

And here I was looking forward to it

Genuinely sad

[void mason]

my book collection is ruined

what will my grandchildren say

they was supposed to inherit it

[short knoll]

can sell them for big money later

[dreamy pendant]

Main issue is that in my eyes book was the only proof that they still cared a bit about global

NOW I REALLY FEAR EOS OI

[frosty plank]

They should make the new valks stay relevant for 2 days after their banners end. That will make people spend money on this game

[dreamy pendant]

Sena is still relevant so idk what you mean
Part2 valk get replaced but they can still be used just as easily as before

Maybe they preform slightly worse but it’s not something that big yet from what I’ve seen so far

[short knoll]

vita hofi combo is still very relevant

tho the issue isnt really about the valk, it's just less player = less money

[dreamy pendant]

WE NEED HI3 CHARACTERS IN HSR SO PLAYERS COME HERE TO UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE

[short knoll]

bad news for you, ppl dont really like that idea

[dreamy pendant]

I know

I don’t either

BUT I DON’T WANT EOS

[short knoll]

i will come eventually, even genshin will eos some day

[glass nacelle]

Eos is just joke lmao

[dreamy pendant]

It was in Ggz too till it wasn't

[shrewd socket]

GGZ is still up

[glass nacelle]

Do u know hi3 revenue > ggz revenue

[dreamy pendant]

I mean in global server

[dreamy pendant]

Shh, I know

[shrewd socket]

glueball ≠ entirety of the game

[muted mauve]

you can always buy it

[short knoll]

i mean joke or not, ppl do worry about future of this game, at least for GLB
the book make it worse

[dreamy pendant]

Exactly

[short knoll]

who care about the game if their server got shutdown

[glass nacelle]

Ppl are just overreacting

[dreamy pendant]

Tbh we did lose one of the anchors we had to avoid thinking eos is soon for global servers. + Books are cool I wanted it

[short knoll]

overreacting, sure
but that's what people do and it's really not a good sign, may cause the end to come sooner

[dreamy pendant]

[short knoll]

not like eos will affect me much, played many eos games before
just find new game to enjoy

[glass nacelle]

Buy it ez

Or play cn

[dreamy pendant]

I hope if eos arrives we have possiblity to switch servers

I'd even pay tbh

[short knoll]

zero chance tbh

[dreamy pendant]

Let one hope

[short knoll]

if 1 glb server got eos, other server wont be safe too
and they can't merge to CN

[dreamy pendant]

Merge them to hsr ones /j

Ok thinking about it rationally and because someone pointed it out in my DMS it might just be because shipping outside of cn has become very very expensive so maybe that's why hopefully it's just this

[short knoll]

[plucky cradle]

shipping fee from China to Vietnam via postal service costs the same amount as that of an artbook

and that says a lot because these two nations are right next to one another

inb4 artbooks are now exclusive to CN

[glass nacelle]

Theresa need ss to beat songque in vita team

Ded

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel 3S teriop where

[rain isle]

Why are peeps talking about EoS again? Smh I can't

[twin dune]

I hope shipment becomes cheap soon if it doesen t well i m super happy with my artbook v2

[short knoll]

not sure if the shipping fee increased much compare to last year

[hard meadow]

ppl talk about eos every day since game launch

and thats fax

[rain isle]

[abstract night]

How big is teri op for kiana?

[soft prawn]

a lot

[rain isle]

I'd say for LoA in general no?

[soft prawn]

yeah, she's pretty much essential for LoA teams

[rain isle]

Does she have any Kiana specific buff?

[abstract night]

Stellar Shift+1

Which is...in general

[soft prawn]

If Ba-dum! Kiana is the leader, Synergy ATK deal additional 1500% ATK of Lightning DMG.

[rain isle]

Ah, so just more Teri dmg

[abstract night]

Seee

[rain isle]

I mean, who cares about aop dmg aside from Nirv sweats?

XD

[abstract night]

Sera got Songque
Songque got Sena
Teri got Kiana

[rain isle]

Although Teri attacks several times iirc.

[abstract night]

Well i might as well get teriop

[soft prawn]

I pray the gods to bless my pulls for this one 🙏

[abstract night]

No harm in getting teri

Op

[soft prawn]

I can somehow skip on teri op as I have songque op, but I'd like her anyway

[abstract night]

Im getting teri op anyways

From the looks of it atleast

Another stellar shift seems broken

[slim lion]

They talk about eos all day long but when eos truly comes they'll say bro why we supported your game since launch
Doomposters got nothing but doomposting

[hard meadow]

spoiler: they didnt spend anything

[slim lion]

spoiler: they have never touch the game once

[hard meadow]

real

i know a guy who quit classic wow 2-3 years ago

still regularly doompost on the subreddit every week

[onyx crow]

What's bp with seele horb

[slim lion]

[hard meadow]

im gonna assume you are asking when will horb's gear run on bp

it will be 8.1

[onyx crow]

No

I mean who's with seele

Cuz they usually run 2

[hard meadow]

seele is not gonna run on BP at all

she will be available in the spending event

only her equipment is on the BP

[onyx crow]

Well equipment wise I mean

[slim lion]

Her equipments are in bp

[onyx crow]

Sorry

[slim lion]

Only that I believe

[onyx crow]

Oh ok ty!

[hard meadow]

this bp season was hotr(+gear), susannah(gear only), dreamweaver(+gear), horb(gear only)

[feral epoch]

thanks

[abstract night]

Whats flux.?

Homu flux

[hard meadow]

flux is the LoA weather

same one we alr had on frost emperor

[abstract night]

Aw man

[abstract night]

I was probably dead lol...

[sinful crown]

[rain isle]

Man's speaking 🔥 ✍️

[slate elm]

fax

[hoary mountain]

whats eos

i keep thinking of Eous from ZZZ

[glass nacelle]

[hoary mountain]

ew why are people talking about that

also honkai impact wiki

[rain isle]

No wonder people talk about eos a ton

They always meant the lance

Now that makes more sense.

[sinful crown]

@dreamy pendant

[dreamy pendant]

Can confirm, I was talking about that EOS

[rain isle]

[dreamy pendant]

Hi Britt

[sinful crown]

hello

[muted mauve]

I mean. There's worries to be had when patches get longer, content gets shorter and out of game big events (ex: anni concert) do not happen.

[dreamy pendant]

Carv please don’t say that my worries are reasonable or I’m going to freak out again plz

What am I going to do without the game that gave me so much

Like this game so good am actually sad I can’t p2w because am broke
I want to but unfortunately uni and surviving is in the way

[glass nacelle]

don't mind it much because it has happened in the past :clueless:

[glass nacelle]

just pay

only mp

[dreamy pendant]

To play I need to be alive
That’s the issue

[glass nacelle]

[potent forum]

No artbook and longer patches, this definitely wont spiral down

we'll see I guess

[supple furnace]

[glass nacelle]

ref : 3.63M
me : 3.51M

[fervent hinge]

just do more dmg

[unique swallow]

just lyo more lyo

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

just do 12S run

[glass nacelle]

just fund me 12S

[plucky cradle]

[slate merlin]

dks ?

[small wing]

is it too mean to say this magical girl event sucks dookie

[hard meadow]

no

the idea and gameplay is good

[steady granite]

no but that's a weird combination of words

[hard meadow]

but having to slog through a hundred all too easy fights is just garbage design

[small wing]

it takes wayyyyyyyyyyy too long

[hard meadow]

yea

only the 7th/8th floor of each area is even remotely interesting (and even then its easy)

they need to reduce the amount of stages by like 2/3

maybe introduce some extra challenging ones where the enemy are above lvl 15 while you stuck at 15 still

and it would be a good event

[edgy drift]

classic hoyo event

take a good idea, drag it through the mud by making way more stages than needed and stopping right below a point where the idea could get really interesting

[hard meadow]

yea

i feel like they have gotten better with it recently

not that they are including any interesting stages but at least the slogfest is less

[still condor]

sparkle event making you play cards with every single person you interact with was annoying

[muted mauve]

Sparkle event was annoying*

[spice summit]

The card battles are fun

The yappings however, really isn't

[hard meadow]

yap impact 3rd
look inside
it's yapping

https://tenor.com/view/looks-inside-cat-meme-gif-9988497200137656952

[spice summit]

The problem is the story feels like watching a butchered sitcom

It's written as if a 16 years old tried writing sitcom dialogues after watching family guy or south park

[muted mauve]

the only redeeming quality of that event was the first 3 minutes of story and the sampo boss fight.

[junior nova]

No no because you're right

150 something crystals for the most time consuming event ever is insane

[spice summit]

Way too many trials

[hard meadow]

events usually give very little xtals to begin with, and reruns even less

its mostly always new outfit + mats

[spice summit]

And each stages has their own levels like bruh come on

[willow perch]

only truly worth playing for rewards via initial run, reruns are hit-miss

[spice summit]

I mean I'll take every crystals possible

And then ignore the event until it's over

[willow perch]

I'd sooner quit than be desperately scratching for 150 xtals 😝

[muted mauve]

if there's one decision I'll never forgive hoyo for is how they decided to mess with the story of chapter 5 to market the collab.

[twin dune]

Hm? Wdym

[muted mauve]

I'll more quickly forgive them for making the battlesuit Otto made for Theresa a Astral Op than what they did in Chapter 5.

[hard meadow]

sparkle is just hamfisted in the story, does actually nothing

but shes just there because star rail whoo

[twin dune]

Oh i was thinking of chapter 5 as in the p1 one

[muted mauve]

• Randomly breaking the story's pacing to put in Star Rail collab stuff that had no set up or reasoning to be in the story.

• Stealing the first appearance of Kiana within the part 2 storyline, which should be something meaningful given her role and her current position, just to have her talk with a memokeeper and push exposition.

• Messing Vita's writting to have her fit in the role they want for her in HSR.

[twin dune]

Some build up would have been really nice

[hard meadow]

oh are they putting vita in hsr

[muted mauve]

seem to plan to according to dev interview

[hard meadow]

[final locust]

oh hell no

[small wing]

hell yeah

now we just wait and see if they let her keep her pants

how long we got till 8.2 beta btw?

[muted mauve]

a month

can we finally get part 2 characters

First year of part 2:

• 6 part 2 characters (60% of all characters, 50% of S-ranks)
• 1 part 1.5 character
• 1 collab character
• 2 part 1 characters

Hope this year the number reaches at least 80%

[verbal mountain]

well it's not starting off great with kiana

[final locust]

part 2 characters
sena
helia
coralie
songque
thelema
lantern
songque
sera

part 1.5 characters
vita

part 1 characters
teri
hofi
dudu
kiana
ely
teri

no part character: sparkle

[muted mauve]

referring to Battlesuits.

[willow perch]

[final locust]

we havent gotten a p2 since 7.7

[muted mauve]

I just hope the [CN story] ||teased cooking Sushang is just a outfit so that we can focus on actually story relevant releases.

Ajita, younger Serapeum, Leylah, Senadina, dreamseeker upgrade, Hélia upgrade, Alter Hélia, moonshell, Youyun, Chenxue... literally anything.||

[final locust]

hopefully leylah and that beautiful black goddess come to save us (forgot the latter's name)

[muted mauve]

.6

[final locust]

they gave all of them new designs for what, like hello

||new sera design, new DS design, new sena design, new helia design, new chenxue design just to keep them locked and keep pumping out p1||

they're appeasing the crybabies that complain about p2 relentlessly and its so annoying

like if you dont like it then leave bc everyone else likes it and its very interesting

[willow perch]

Probably best you speak for yourself

[gleaming harbor]

We haven't had a p2 since last year!

[final locust]

about 7 months since our last p2

[native grove]

could it be they actually listen to the feedback from the surveys but the ones who actually fill them out are the vocal minority?

[final locust]

idk but whoever's complaining about p2 in the survey are just whiny babies

p1 is over move on 🙄

[gleaming imp]

As a p1 boomer I like the recent p1 suits since they give me nostalgia

[abstract night]

I like both

Pt1(.5)had some good qualities

Pt2 has some good qualities

[final locust]

some p1 suits is fine but 4 patches of purely p1 content is excessive

and then sparkle doesnt count as either p1 or p2 in my eyes cuz shes from HSR

[gleaming imp]

Need them to drop the tall p2 dudu and that p2 Rita look

[final locust]

i want leylah and sera

[willow perch]

Should've given us normal dudu to start with

Ridiculous design choice

[abstract night]

Sci should of came out with another outfit

...hope shes the next character to get one

[short knoll]

that sushang could be a skin if it's just a random design
but it's p2 design with element from new theresa outfit, either new suit or nothing

im still waiting for new p1 ice support, she could be it

[final locust]

hsien ur so delulu

what would p1 ice support buff
dps hotr

[still condor]

p1 ice support for who

[final locust]

he swears up and down that itd make p1 ely relevant

[short knoll]

p1 hoh and SW

[final locust]

the only thing it might make slightly good is dps hotr but i HIGHLY doubt it

if sushang is a battlesuit shes just gonna be a WoD ely bot like she was previously

[hard meadow]

they arent gonna release p1 anything anymore

[short knoll]

i mean p2 valk that can support p1 dps, like small dudu and other valks

[final locust]

small dudu - p1 phys TA replacement
sparkle - p1 fire CN replacement
teri - p1 lightning eden replacement
??? - p1 ice kira replacement
??? - p1 bleed CE replacement

[short knoll]

not sure about bleed but could happen too

[final locust]

if they want to replace SP valks they gotta kill CE

bc VQ should have pisacha until the end of time

[verbal mountain]

A new P1 bleed supp is more likely than an ice supp

bleed is actl alive somewhat

[abstract night]

Or HoRb

[final locust]

HoRb isnt an SP valk

[abstract night]

A bleed impair buffing valk

[unique swallow]

Baby dudu is cute wtf

[abstract night]

Shhh

[abstract night]

Kira?

[final locust]

can you read

[abstract night]

I can still ask

I like ce

[final locust]

^^^^^^^^

[unique swallow]

No one needs a P1 ice support

There is no P1 ice unit to support

[abstract night]

T-theres still the best ice quantum unit

[muted mauve]

silverwing

[abstract night]

And her

Ig

[short knoll]

there are p1 ice dps to support

[abstract night]

Didnt say they had to be good

[verbal mountain]

No point in giving a support for dead dps

[unique swallow]

My point still stands

[short knoll]

would be funny if new ice valk actually powercreep ely instead

[abstract night]

Aponia dkey soon trust

First sw dkey ofc

Bio is a delicacy

[short knoll]

p1 ely is still usable if no thel

[abstract night]

How is pt1 ely

With AR smacked on it

[short knoll]

just dont use p2 gear

[abstract night]

B-but why

[short knoll]

p2 ely without thel and ao is worse than p1 ely i heard

[abstract night]

I need ely for kiana

[abstract night]

I uhm have S0 Songqueop...

And a perfectly....ish useable sena

Then Vita and Teri as secondary supports ™️

[short knoll]

[abstract night]

Well i mean vita has ari on her wep

30 right?

Hope beta is soon

[fervent hinge]

Ummmmm hello? Hare?

[unique swallow]

[fervent hinge]

No HoRb = ice dps

[glass nacelle]

new AO is p1 support

[final locust]

__L__yo wheres your horb

i thought u pulled horb for hov

[short knoll]

next patch

[half shard]

Thelema P1 ice DPS

[steady granite]

them inserting the meme-keeper wasn't as bad as lambda casually breaking the 4th wall multiple times just to thank us personally in terms of how badly it affected the story imo her and vita "witnessing" the story of part 2 in a golden limo was utterly pointless

still scared she's gonna jump out of nowhere and say she was sena all along or some other skinwalker sh*t

adjacently, people thought her new fit would lead to a new suit, but it ended up being just an outfit, so there's some , however slight, hope for li sus sharing the same fate

[rustic stump]

So Li Sushang DK?

[edgy drift]

That's with P2 gear still

and very niche to a few cases

basically just Heph, and will not scale with higher D or lower Ely ranks at all

and just because not having a freeze against that thing is instant -300

[steady granite]

[rustic stump]

Better solution than more p1 battlesuits 🤷🏾‍♀️

[steady granite]

aug core...

[rustic stump]

It’s an abandoned mechanic though…

[steady granite]

[muted mauve]

Atleast that felt like something the writters wanted to do even if it landed poorly. And atleast I can understand what they were going for and how it fits into the story's themes.

I can't say the same for P2 Ch 5's HSR scenes.

[rustic stump]

Unless APHO does something with the crossover and those cgs from chap 5, idk what was the purpose of them.

[steady granite]

I can't say that for either

[glass nacelle]

fk boss timing

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

domyabyss

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/37008036

bye artbook

[feral epoch]

yeay

what even is the differences

[hard meadow]

different maintenance time

[short knoll]

2 books next year trust

[glass nacelle]

eos nexr year trust

[short knoll]

player get a book as compensation trust

[rustic stump]

So, how does HoHE currently preforms without Thele? I don’t have her nor do I have enough crystals for her either. Imma focus on getting Ely DK instead and maybe hope I win out on Big Kiana’s weap

😭🤡

[final locust]

yeah good luck without thele lmao

thele needed for freeze and shieldbreak
and even if boss doesnt have either mechanic, you still want thele for massive buffs and evade spam for ARI
so very necessary

[rustic stump]

That bad? 😭

I wish had a bunch of crystals and good luck. I’m currently stuck and suck at ice bosses without a fully equipped ice valk

[final locust]

yeah its pretty damn bad

[fast quarry]

S0 HoHe vs S0 Lantern in neutral PSY coverage?

[final locust]

what?

[fast quarry]

And does ranked HoHe beat S0 Lantern everytime?

[short knoll]

can hope for new hoh support, tho you still need to pull for her

[final locust]

yes S0 lantern is shit

[fast quarry]

How much ranks?

[final locust]

S0 vs. S0 HoHE might unironically beat lamp but idk

[fast quarry]

o

[final locust]

but HoHE has high investment requirements

kind of whale bait as much as i hate to say it

you want SS HoH:E, 4/4 thele, 4/4 breacher, and a premium asop SS

[rustic stump]

Should I still get the DK anyways?

[final locust]

yeah everyone should its 10 free atk and we dont know if or when itll rerun

[rustic stump]

I already got the free HoHE; she just needs good gear and support. I only have Vita, HoFi, Coralie, Sparkle and loli Dudu that are fully geared.

[final locust]

oh youre fucked

sorry man
in RL unranked, theleless, senaless, and asopless hohe can probably compete to an extent
but you are FAR behind requirements

[rustic stump]

How fucked?

[final locust]

on a scale from 1-10, youre 8/10 fucked

[shrewd socket]

i only lack ranks and Sera

[rustic stump]

I have DS and S0 Songque for Astoop

[rustic stump]

Really?

[final locust]

"minimum" investment requirements for HoHE are SS, 4/4 thele, 4/4 breacher (sena preferred if S0 vs. S0, vita if SS+), and a premium asop

songque should be decent at S but the ARI after SO is locked at S so thats fucked too

[spice summit]

SS for hohe is required? Fr?

[half shard]

cuz most player already ranked up HoH

[shrewd socket]

she's old af

[spice summit]

Well yeah

[half shard]

S0 vs SS-SSS

thats ugh...

[spice summit]

Guess I should just skip dkey since I don't have thelema and her SS

[supple furnace]

Gacha hohe + free hohe just need a few stamp ez

[rustic stump]

I’ve tried to get Sena with my small amount of xytals put I lost all of them without a Sena, and I have to restart my xystsl amount all over again

[gleaming imp]

I can thankfully pick up SS thelema on 8.2

ADV stocks up go up

[rustic stump]

Can I use Vita with HoHE at least?

[shrewd socket]

10 atk gud

[fast quarry]

Vita is good

[supple furnace]

Just give up on sena if you have vita tbh

[fast quarry]

And if you're chilling in NA RL, you can drop the ranks and aops. Plenty of skill issued people there, so you can get away with it

[rustic stump]

That’s what I figured.

[rustic stump]

Yeah I’m on the NA server

[final locust]

yeah you can but its worse than sena at S0

[muted mauve]

https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/61946118

[rustic stump]

Well, she’s the only elemental breach valk I have currently

[muted mauve]

@naive briar (poke)

[vale granite]

It's more than enough for RL and below, dw

[final locust]

itll work but again worse than sena

but yeah ur fine in RL the problem comes with nirv

[naive briar]

[rustic stump]

I don’t think I’ll ever make it to Nirvana tbh

[final locust]

its not hard at all lmao

[steady granite]

oooo cute

[rustic stump]

I barely have any usable units

[final locust]

man i hit nirv with just senatrio

[rustic stump]

Really?

[vale granite]

Yes, RL is very easy once you get proper teams

[final locust]

he doesnt have a proper team

hohe vita dudu pretty fucked

[short knoll]

could be doable if they have skill or ref, but i doubt

wont expect good skill with random valk, and ref for random team is hard to find

[rustic stump]

I mean, that makes sense

[final locust]

no it doesnt

[rustic stump]

How?

[final locust]

sena helia coralie where helia's weap was lv55 and neither her or coralie were ranked?

[rustic stump]

🤷🏾‍♀️

[rustic stump]

More like HoHE, Sparkle, Vita?

I was thinking about trying that team out

[versed garden]

Does sparkle even support WoD for that to work

[rustic stump]

Isn’t she World Star though?

[versed garden]

Dkey makes HoHe WoD

[rustic stump]

Aren’t WS and WoD compatible?

[versed garden]

... How tf

[rustic stump]

Idk

[versed garden]

They're complete opposites for one. 2nd it's the supporting tag that matters, not the ring type when you're supporting

[rustic stump]

Isn’t that determined by the AR though?

[versed garden]

Nope, hoyo decides what tags to throw on

[rustic stump]

Oh ok. Is that why Vita has so many tags?

[versed garden]

Sena is WS has WoD tag
Helia is WS, doesn't have WoD tag

[versed garden]

Cause vita, she has all 4 tags plus is RoO so can support even without tag

[rustic stump]

Oh ok

[versed garden]

Just search and read !faq ring

[final locust]

that doesnt work

[rustic stump]

Ok

[rustic stump]

Then who can? Dudu?

[final locust]

yep only dudu can out of ur roster

[rustic stump]

Dudu can do Shadow Stars?

[final locust]

yes

[rustic stump]

I thought she could only do Heavenly Shift?

[final locust]

nope she has shadow tag heavenly shift tag and ??? tag

[rustic stump]

Oh ok thanks

[glass nacelle]

elybad is confirmed

||just joke, thelema in que ref is 1513 atk||

[plucky cradle]

[short knoll]

need more buff for ely

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

new support

[rustic stump]

||Probably a certain short stacked 500 year old.||

[short knoll]

i asume sushang? is she that short?

[rustic stump]

She looks pretty short to me. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[solar surge]

I never thought of her as short
then again, I never thought of her

[rustic stump]

[solar surge]

on the other hand, she's small enough to crawl inside a claw machine
but I just assumed that was ninja tricks

[still vine]

isn't she only like 150cm or something

[muted mauve]

95% of Valkyries are short

[still vine]

i mean depends on what you count as short I guess

[rustic stump]

She is? She looks shorter than that

[still vine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/xr0eqp/bronie_and_sushang_are_the_same_height_now_i/

[rustic stump]

They are? lol

[still vine]

it would appear so

[grim notch]

How to tell a honkai player that people of the same height can have different weights.

[solar surge]

Bronie is a malnourished hacker gremlin, so she looks short
Sushi is light, but filling and really good with ginger and wasabi...

[supple furnace]

Sushang is like 80% legs so she looks tall af

But still you telling me they have the same height

[grim notch]

Kiana 163cm 49kg
Elysia 163cm 54.6kg

Normal Bronya is 147cm, Haxxor is 150cm

[solar surge]

mobi's right, ely does have a little extra squish...

[grim notch]

Mei is 172cm but only 50kg

She is too light

[solar surge]

she is too lightning ?

[grim notch]

You can say that lol

[rustic stump]

Well, she’s very thin and lean

[steady granite]

everyone feels taller cuz they're surrounded by small people

meanwhile I'm reminded daily that 162cm is in fact small even for EU country

[rustic stump]

Isn’t the average height for most women and short for most men?

[steady granite]

no, it's lower than women's average

[grim notch]

What

[solar surge]

depends on where in Europe, I imagine
Sweden? Sure, avg girl height is 166 according to wiki
Italy? 162 average
Macedonia (Alexander the Great)- 160.9

[steady granite]

unless you want to be more specific about any certain country

cuz the playable cast isn't all asian

[steady granite]

germany

[solar surge]

true, but that's also weighted by clones and malnourished orphans

[soft prawn]

Average in italy is not 162

[solar surge]

wait, Wiki's saying Guatemala averages 148 (4' 10") ?

[soft prawn]

Which wiki are u using cuz that seems very wrong

[steady granite]

male / female

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

[soft prawn]

Oh you guys talking about female

[steady granite]

lol image country's average

[solar surge]

well, yeah, this started with Sushang, not Su

[steady granite]

land of dwarfs

tbh being few cms shorter wouldn't even change much, I can't reach the highest cabinets without a stool anyway

this is the reminder I mentioned earlier

bunch of stuff is simply made for people taller than me

[solar surge]

meanwhile, my clumsy meat-puppet is doomed to getting a hunchback because everything around me is built for little SA people

https://tenor.com/view/bump-gandalf-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-23737595

me_irl

[rustic stump]

Europe and East Asia

[steady granite]

that's uh, a very large pool

[rustic stump]

Southwestern Europe, Germany, Shenzshou (China) and Japan

[solar surge]

eh, for the longest time I thought Himeko was Irish (tall pale redhead who likes to drink and hit things with a big stick), so honkai nationality can be hard to guess sometimes

[rustic stump]

It’s obvious that Himeko was Japanese from the jump, but I see what you mean

[plucky cradle]

Mu continent

[steady granite]

Mars

[rustic stump]

Can we get back to CN gameplay talk please?

[solar surge]

another week until spending event

and then another week before vita dress

[steady granite]

one more week to doompost

[solar surge]

and kiana bada-boom is cute, but just doesn't quite "speak" to me, you know?
then again, the gap in my tuna set will probably bother me...

[steady granite]

you'll love her in trial (or not)

[solar surge]

is her weapon also a Divine Key, or just a regular pri-arm ?

[steady granite]

normal

[solar surge]

ah, cool, so she can just steal Finalikitty's gear, good good

[brave marsh]

beta

[rustic stump]

I can’t wait for the Ely DK!

[gleaming imp]

Same, my ss2 ely is going to slay

[willow perch]

I see the SS2 Ely gang is here

[rustic stump]

My Ely is currently at s1 🙃

[gusty thistle]

wew

surely 40k is enough for kiana + dkey + astral op

[rain isle]

Mine is only S0 XD

I got her last patch

[willow perch]

[rain isle]

:O

That Ellie emoji is so adorable :O

🍞

[still vine]

[spare folio]

I got only 25k, going for kiana + dkey only

[plucky cradle]

[junior nova]

Is global beta ever coming or is it already out?

[nova osprey]

Already out

[steady granite]

started few hours ago

[glass nacelle]

Ded

[plucky cradle]

[strange lintel]

147 pulls for both evelyn and her sig w engine

Oh wrong server

[pallid cosmos]

[glass nacelle]

[willow pumice]

Very op part 2 valk

[plucky cradle]

evelyn more like the better lamp

[earnest forge]

Can i see next anni shop pls

Does anyone have it?

[earnest forge]

Tysm

NO GOD KEY?

Ah hell nah

Horb suck

[copper shale]

none

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

so whel

good luck with 556D

+1 D back to back

[feral epoch]

no luck for s0

[hot swift]

[urban cloud]

Is dkey hohe as dps pretty bad without thelema?

[verbal mountain]

yes

[gleaming imp]

Why they have to force Ely to be with thelema on her team, newer players won't even have thelema

[hard meadow]

and newer players will have ss+ ely?

[gleaming imp]

Well s2 probably

[hard meadow]

s2 from where

[gleaming imp]

Stamps from shop

[hard meadow]

newer players will spend 2.5k of that currency to upgrade their s0 ely to s2 while everyone else still has anything from ss to sss?

[gleaming imp]

I don't think people have anything beyond s0 for their p2 valks unless they got lucky

[hard meadow]

whats that have to do with ely's rank?

[gleaming imp]

Oh you meant as in Ely ranks

Oh then yeah people probably have ss+, I have my Ely ss2

[hard meadow]

yeah so

if a hypothetical new player pulls ely's dkey they already have to compete with their s0 ely against your ss2

having some thelema here or not you think it matters

[gleaming imp]

I'm sure they'll get by

[hard meadow]

fax is dkeys are and have always been for old players to bring new life back to their old popular valk

its expected that a new player who just started wont be able to utitilize a freshly released dkey

[unique swallow]

Well by your logic I'm sure they'll get by without thelema too

[gleaming imp]

Yes

They just need a slack bracket

A very very slack bracket

[glass nacelle]

slack bracket = ded game

[rain isle]

I got that free HoHe last patch, didn't have her lol

So I'll have just s2 via the stamps

[vast citrus]

I have s1 rn myself. S2 when I buy a stamp. Im thinking about the box for ss cause I do have s2 thelema.

[verbal mountain]

how does s2+3 hoh do vs like ss1+1 hoh

i'm not pulling +3 unless I giga luck out but pretty curious

[small wing]

What does S2 give that makes it that important

[verbal mountain]

idk i think it's good but i'm jus saying that cuz that's what i'll have next patch

free copy + stamps from supply shop

[hoary mountain]

i think s2 is the one that gives a good chunk of combo attack and weapon attack damage boost

[small wing]

I only got hohe from the free event so I don't have any ranks on her

[still condor]

and what makes you think new players have supply shop currency?

[gleaming imp]

True but at least they’re already on par with lamp at s0

[abstract night]

Have u seen kianas animations?

[gleaming imp]

Yes, still not pulling in case the older looking hofin look is a suit

[still condor]

its either gonna be an outfit for HoFi or badum, or an astralop

[abstract night]

Her animations are pretty.

[gleaming imp]

Do they make you feel nostalgic?

[abstract night]

...no?

[rain isle]

[edgy drift]

you know it's not

[gleaming imp]

I can hope

I really want it to be a suit

I like the design more than the cny Kiana

And it gives me more nostalgia than cny Kiana

[exotic osprey]

I wonder where I'm gonna pull 5 HoS stamps out from

Returnee only had 10 and I need 15

[scarlet sapphire]

You can buy HoS frags from war treasury now

[exotic osprey]

Oh fuck right

SSS HoS soon real

[final locust]

dude this alone makes vita SO MUCH BETTER for LoA. its crazy

[naive zinc]

this make her more crazy

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-hsr-vrchat-gif-9812522225836500095

[meager thorn]

LoA?

[still condor]

Law of Ascension

[final locust]

law of ascension

[still condor]

its the new ring type for dudu and kiana

[edgy drift]

But still the slowest of the bunch

[small wing]

is this a rank upgrade for her?

[meager thorn]

o

[final locust]

nope

[edgy drift]

At least now it's just not horrible

[still condor]

vitamid

[edgy drift]

Her special qte still sucks and you still want to never use it too

[final locust]

not really, if you can reliably burst it down with your dps's stellar shift then song/sparkle/kiana/hohes and then switch back and shift with dps again

but need teri asop ofc

dudu should be able to do it but idk abt kiana

[naive zinc]

Vita is expensive

[muted mauve]

I'd argue that it is decent as a finisher or against mobs due to it's much higher scaling than others.
But otherwise best to not use it.

not like she needs to, her buffs by themselves already putting her as Kiana's primary abyss support

[abstract night]

Oh woopsies

[shrewd socket]

why is it so shiny wtf

[ember locust]

She might get a DK like Kiana HoFi did though

[earnest forge]

Make sense

Still have hope

[ember locust]

Like it's literally the same case, except that Seele's gear is in BP so she's skipped in BP for chara

[earnest forge]

[ember locust]

Weird but that's right

[earnest forge]

[ember locust]

HoRb is not in the next BP lol

[earnest forge]

I love children dudu

[abstract night]

We dont know anything till its happend

[ember locust]

Skipped for now

Obviously bc of the BP shop in 8.1

[abstract night]

Hoyo can do wtv they want
We dont know anything
Can only cope and assume

[ember locust]

And then they totally decide to skip her, kekw gg w/l coopers copping cope

[abstract night]

Ok

[ember locust]

(Tbh yeah anything can happen but the situation is quite familiar)

[final locust]

yes she is

gear is at least, that might be card but i think its elfs

[short knoll]

bait, wait for new gear in 8.5

[glass nacelle]

when summer patch

8.2 9 weeks long is not confirmed yet because maybe they change something in bp and they extend the ball time

[final locust]

probably in summer

[feral epoch]

when is summer

[copper shale]

gone

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

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so tanky

also dem evades

[glass nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcel5akp0Sg

gay music

[copper shale]

das the real honk music

[muted mauve]

WHO LET HER NEAR THE FOOD

[gleaming imp]

Just two besties being girls

[ember locust]

What I mean to say is she's not defined yet to be in 8.2's new BP

[final locust]

should be LV since shes in supply shop and supply shop reflects BP since p2

[ember locust]

That much is almost certain. The only thing is Ely... Could be replaced by FoV

[final locust]

7.3 - HHE PE
7.3-7.6 BP - HHE PE
7. something - HTR Hare
7.8 - 8.1 - HTR Hare

[ember locust]

HoHe cannot appear twice as a chara for now

Plus she was in the last BP rotation (7.5-7.6)

[plucky cradle]

Elybad