🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[copper shale]

ss teri best value, sss teri is also big, but unless myraid dont think about it

[unreal current]

uh okay, if there will be a sera supply again later should i try to get her for ely or nah tho?

[copper shale]

no

[dry delta]

Ice

[copper shale]

in general, backpulling not recommended

ur also not chasing myriad or anything

[glass nacelle]

why are you considered spam

[dry delta]

related to roblox dw about it

[willow perch]

[glass nacelle]

tf

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel considered spam ples bean

[willow perch]

Time to bean the spam accounts

[glass nacelle]

bean den first

[dry delta]

its offtopic i acn tell u in dms

or just in ff topic

[glass nacelle]

sleep

[dry delta]

No

[naive briar]

why so many spam

[plucky cradle]

chibispam

[copper shale]

discord dont like him ig

[willow perch]

Spam accounts running rampant

[dry delta]

[willow perch]

Where's me mallet

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

for one sec I thought this is a food claim phew

[dry delta]

noo

[copper shale]

can u @ me i wonder wat it looks like

[plucky cradle]

the edible one

[dry delta]

@copper shale

[copper shale]

it gets hidden

[dry delta]

[plucky cradle]

see you on the other side

[spice summit]

I really want hohe dkey but I don’t want to backpull thelema

[plucky cradle]

just use whatever else you got

[spice summit]

I’d probably use anything but her except like symphony or ice

[willow perch]

Thilemma dilemma

[copper shale]

well its just what your expectations are, like ig if you're fine with knowing that you dumped 60 pulls on what is most likely just a +10 atk and fast er clears non-lite with ely then ig its ok

its def not advised in terms of meta

[glass nacelle]

thelemaless in 2025

[willow perch]

Thelema easily my favorite valk I've pulled in p2

Vita the closest 2nd possible

[spice summit]

My most used so far has been song

And 🅱️ ita

[copper shale]

in the end tho it is your acc, but either way, not think about it now and worry about it later when the banner actually comes is also an option

[spice summit]

Yeah I pull with my brain full of gambling addiction dopamine

Meh who needs to backpull thelema, I’m just gonna win the raffle for free p2 valk trust

[glass nacelle]

support for loa when

[slim lion]

Is teri S rank good enough or is SS mandatory?

[verbal mountain]

for LoA S is good
for Vita she needs SS

[slim lion]

I see

Ty

[plucky cradle]

o

I forgot to do abyss

[glass nacelle]

denwhel doesn't need crys from abyss

just 💳

[plucky cradle]

too busy today

[gleaming harbor]

spam accounts trying to steal our honkai /s

[ember locust]

Teri Teri when

[ember locust]

Or more like Songque when

[glass nacelle]

idk why eden 1 can deal dmg to hod core

[muted mauve]

[dreamy pendant]

What is kiana cooking

[slate merlin]

sound:418652140454674432:1097947084730138624

[soft prawn]

let her cook

[edgy drift]

it's not recommended

[sinful river]

Kiana’s new model is so pretty but why didn’t they fix the Frog eyes 😭😭😭

[muted mauve]

mean

[muted mauve]

hmm. Kid Senti and Seele left.

[ember locust]

What is that ???

[final locust]

phone charms

is there gonna be an EN beta for 8.1

[shrewd socket]

why wouldn't it

[muted mauve]

new event

[ember locust]

Why not ? We're almost there normally, almost week 4

[final locust]

just asking

dont apps usually come out before this time though

[unique swallow]

Just get cn beta ez

[shrewd socket]

can glueball sign for beta now?

[final locust]

no

[final locust]

but CN beta isnt like EN beta

they dont give you everything SSS+3 and 4* elfs and SSS asops

[unique swallow]

What

[final locust]

do they

[twin dune]

When 8.1 beta?

[final locust]

soon™️

[naive briar]

[noble cobalt]

has anyone tried to use double kiana in resonance team?

[noble cobalt]

ohhh i see ty

[still vine]

but is it better than hofi vita

[final locust]

i think kiana vita is better? idk

[still vine]

which kiana

[copper shale]

for sparkle yes,
for the rest we'll see

[still vine]

just simply see

[copper shale]

well i think it should be better than s0 vita

but no live abyss

[final locust]

the one thats not hofi

[still vine]

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-kiana-starfall-neko-charm-wicked-weave-gif-18990039

[still vine]

so white comet should work too then right

[final locust]

yes

[still vine]

[copper shale]

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[short knoll]

still not impressed with new kiana

[copper shale]

numbers or design

numbers woulda been fine if not for nerfs

design i don't feel much, also not impressed yea

s ranks no longer feels very special

[verbal mountain]

That's cuz A ranks are a myth

[short knoll]

at least coralie will 4ever stay relevant, unless they make another A rank RoO with free gear

[final locust]

coralie was irrelevant for a long time

she just comes back when a new ring releases that doesnt have 3 supports yet

or when they decide to make an RoO dps (please never again hoyo)

[edgy drift]

not even really tho, missing the tag for LoA makes her pretty miserable to use

[final locust]

wdym missing the tag for LoA

you mean not having a stellar shift

[edgy drift]

she doesn't have the heavenly shift tag, so no special qte, no bonus ARi, no team qte trigger or cd reset

[final locust]

yeah LoA is the whale ring imo

DS is noticeably more shit in LoA
and no A ranks are even usable in it

[edgy drift]

and if they release a ring close to world star in functionality she'd be dead weight in there (like she would be in WS if she didn't have the domain resonance tag)

so far only WoD doesn't really care about their tag

[final locust]

WoD is the best ring tbh

coolest mechanic

[edgy drift]

LoA is the best in functionality imo

[final locust]

LoA taking 200 ARI tho DS users are cucked

[edgy drift]

Y'know Sera doesn't really change anything for that

[final locust]

better than DS

[edgy drift]

the first ring is easy to reach, the second she doesn't do a thing for it

[final locust]

and sera has intensity recovery
i dont think DS has that

[edgy drift]

only for WoD and WS

[gleaming imp]

Coragood only helia ended up as helibad among the p2 a ranks which means new helia will also be helibad and bait

[final locust]

helia isnt bad

[final locust]

shes just painfully slow

[final locust]

intensity recovery state

[edgy drift]

that's the passive thing they all have

[final locust]

DS has that?

why is her regen so shit then

[edgy drift]

that's literally just the passive recovery on every single aop

even jingwei elf has the exact same text there

[copper shale]

^ its extra passive that makes it quick

[edgy drift]

Sera in LoA has some initial ARi bonus (8 per shadow star tag in the team)

but initial isn't really the issue in that team

[copper shale]

having extra stellar shift tho

[final locust]

how is teri's regen at S

does it exist

all i know is shes better than every other asop in LoA at S

[edgy drift]

Jingwei, DS and Sera

[final locust]

and that SS isnt needed for LoA (thank god)

[copper shale]

ss for regen

[final locust]

kek

[edgy drift]

initial ARi at S (8 per shift tag), regen at SS (8 + 2 per stellar shift with 4s cd so if you spam them too fast you miss procs )

so bonus ARi regen is only 16 max

[final locust]

thats ... surprisingly not that good

[copper shale]

i mean u rarely try to instantly spam

[edgy drift]

it's still a pretty massive dmg buff

[final locust]

massive?

you know what else is massive...

[edgy drift]

Eh, idt Sparkle takes over 4s for it, and SQ often skips the CA

[final locust]

SS is not a massive damage buff gurdil

lmao
its 1.5% more ele/phys dmg for each teammate with heavenly shift tag

[edgy drift]

forgot they nerfed it to the ground

was same values as Sera before

[final locust]

first asop that is good at S waow

[edgy drift]

RoO needs the SS tho

[final locust]

if you ignore RoO

who gives a shit about RoO its not even general RoO its just vita
trio cant even use it

[edgy drift]

Sera was good at S too but mostly only for sonk

[final locust]

more like exclusively for song

[copper shale]

oh yea with sparkle u do

[edgy drift]

well there could be another WoD phys someday

[final locust]

i will be pulling S teriteri

ill get her by week 6

but ill just use songque in the meantime

[edgy drift]

does songquop even do anything

[final locust]

uhhh what yeah

in my team at least

[edgy drift]

some ele taken I guess

[verbal mountain]

15% elem taken in arc and 30% in so

[final locust]

and good ARI regen

[verbal mountain]

and then some post SO ari but idt that matters rlly

Idt there's any LoA (dudu/kiana) boss that requires 2 SO yet

[final locust]

16800 for teriteri im trying

[edgy drift]

I haven't seen any LoA strat go to a 2nd SO yet

[final locust]

not like sera is much better than songque for RS

actually for most of RS's bosses sera is not that far ahead of songque due to using sparkle

[verbal mountain]

You would just rather use DS tho

Instead of sq

[final locust]

why in the hell would i use DS instead of sq??

i dont have RS

[verbal mountain]

but you're talking about rs...

okay then

[final locust]

im talking about badum

[verbal mountain]

idk i'm reading "RS"

[final locust]

scroll up

[edgy drift]

songque does nothing at all for RS

even DS is better than her

[final locust]

i meant LoA

[verbal mountain]

Teri is actually fully locked into RoO and LoA as opposed to sera and songque

[final locust]

maybe thats why they made her so good at S

[unique swallow]

LoA sidestage incoming

[verbal mountain]

LoA ganesha

[final locust]

ganesha is the bane of my existence

[verbal mountain]

to hunt us more

[final locust]

i hate that fat fucking pig dude
every time im in nirv they decide to run ganesha knowing full well i have NO fire

[unique swallow]

LoA ganesha would be hilarious please add it into the game

[unique swallow]

just play trio

[final locust]

i dont have it rn

[unique swallow]

skill issue

[verbal mountain]

at least from next patch onwards we can use badum on ganesha sidestage

[unique swallow]

i've literally had 0 problems with ganesha tbh

just be better at the game

[shrewd socket]

just for her to get one tapped as anybody else

[unique swallow]

people are saying FWS has 0 iframes but i didn't die once while testing her so

[still condor]

sometimes FoV gets stuck inside ganesha and dies immediately
she has a revive but debuffs

[verbal mountain]

I cleared with 10s left using dudu this time around

[unique swallow]

lol wat

[still condor]

HoTr does it too but she doesnt have a revive

[scarlet sapphire]

trio has been a free win on Ganesha side-stage for me every time since 6.4
HoFi and HoO have enough i-frames to just ignore its attacks

[gleaming imp]

Herrscher trio on top I can't wait to make my herrscher trio stronger with ss2 hofin and possibly s2 hotruth since I have 5 chances on paladin ticket

[unique swallow]

s0 HTR in this day an age

truly a fake fan

[glass nacelle]

Until guaymas exists

No anti interrupt kek

[copper shale]

need smol dudu

otherwise always interrupted

pain to maldge

[unique swallow]

[nova osprey]

Just use sena hofi vita, gonna require 3 SO but hey it clears

[gleaming imp]

I didn't know to invest into ss hotruth since I didn't know about hofin dk

[terse tinsel]

3 days till 800 xtals

[solar surge]

ah, right, I still need to beat up this week's Ely

[final locust]

who

[muted mauve]

Something that annoys me with the new Kiana is when I'm too high above the enemy so the basic atk misses and so I need to do a extra attack to fill the bar

[glass nacelle]

Sena 2.0

[copper shale]

still hits further than sena tho, tho i never seen anyone brought up the issue of kiana missing attacks

maybe they changed it something in live

[naive briar]

ban

[muted mauve]

I had trouble with meteor guaymas because that thing likes to get in the air

Why so blurry...

[copper shale]

oh yeah, you'll have to live with that by adjusting rotation or something, nothing much u can do

same thing when thelema is on the air and the enemy is falling from air to ground (raven when her bar is goes to empty) some of your attacks just miss

[muted mauve]

but Thelema's aerial combo atk atleast doesn't take 300 years

[copper shale]

its still faster than vita

interesting idk design choices but
kiana leader super qte 1.5s true time stop

but as support her qte fills her bar instantly

[muted mauve]

welp. let me go do ER before I sleep to see if I can get Teri

[copper shale]

ss teri where

[muted mauve]

s teri where

[feral epoch]

https://youtu.be/XrrWqFQrJZg

[muted mauve]

exactly that

oh we get 20 cards

didn't manage to get Lantern regardless

But... :D

[gleaming imp]

Why go for lamp when lampbad?

[slate elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1289159841717288990/smt2.gif

[feral epoch]

620 crystals er

[muted mauve]

I have the other 3

[gleaming imp]

Oh that makes sense

[solar surge]

because mummy-munchies-merc is adorable

[glass nacelle]

Wait sleep teri

[solar surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1107084275192447036/1220414197330874428/Waifus_Over_Meta.gif

[copper shale]

oh i see yea thats ass, maybe just guaymas issue, shouldn't have problems with other enemies

[glass nacelle]

[split matrix]

what teams does the new kiana use ?

[split matrix]

ty

[rustic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/honkaiimpact3rd-houkai3rd-benghuai3-theresa-apocalypse-teriteri-gif-5818488777559648962

[slate elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1285666850277167175/thegrinddontstop.gif

[rustic sinew]

Where's dudu cube gif

[slate elm]

sorry

i'm not a dudu simp

[naive briar]

the cubes look more and more lewd as the event update...

[copper shale]

[slate elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1315890036725780481/teri-phone.gif

[rustic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/elysia-elysia-hi3-herrscher-of-human-ego-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4905972273710344661

[naive briar]

don't judge me, listen to the voice

[split matrix]

is there any damage comparison thing for kiana teams

[glass nacelle]

maybe ranged hep/ice fox soon

[mossy escarp]

ew

no keklema ded

[glass nacelle]

keksumi ew

[plucky cradle]

Elybad weather

[mossy escarp]

demoted to forbidden

tf

[oak yarrow]

ew lantern

[fast quarry]

where thelema

[gusty thistle]

soo

[feral epoch]

here

[rain isle]

Thelema

[feral epoch]

bad afffix

[rain isle]

F

[feral epoch]

bad gameplay

[copper shale]

800 where

[copper shale]

btw can u test this rot, does it still work

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[plucky cradle]

thelema

[glass nacelle]

Lick

[plucky cradle]

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

2B dmg when

[plucky cradle]

when kurowhel donate for +3 weap

[glass nacelle]

[void dawn]

one elysillion damage 🗣️🔥

[glass nacelle]

Need ds/s songque rot

No sera demoot time

[feral epoch]

ss songque where

[mossy escarp]

negative dmg where

[ember locust]

True, really sad. Even Eden is quicker and potentially brings up the same shit or almost better than Helia does

It's even more painful for Helia without her weap

[ember locust]

Waiiit they added Thelema in support ? 💀💀

In ER ?

[ember locust]

1B Dmg ☠️☠️☠️

[hoary mountain]

it has been here since probably Lantern release

[steep axle]

She's been there since i came back

I use her with HoFin every week

[ember locust]

I have been tweaking then WTF ☠️☠️

[spare folio]

Will HoHE fragment be added in elysial realm currency shop ?

In 8.1

[feral epoch]

no

[ember locust]

No, not in 8.1

They will be added into the Supply shop though so be on the look out and save your stardust

[upper mulch]

is new kiana looking good

like meta wise

[willow pumice]

Just another valk

[spare folio]

Yeah but I have only 499 of that currency so I can get only 10 fragment
How many pulls it takes to get 500 of that currency ?

[upper mulch]

i mean value wise like is she as much as vita or like small like sparkle

[ember locust]

Yes, she is good in DPS. Her support is looking good too.

As for value, we will know when the new ??? AR will release

Since she's also a support for this one and WS

(If I'm not wrong)

[spare folio]

I'm gonna riot if dark helia is another electro character
Sena then vita then another s rank electro in p2, ughhh

[feral epoch]

she's sena 2.0, just it's fire and not lightning

[ember locust]

10 multis but can be less, each multi gives at least 50 stardust

[willow pumice]

More towards vita.
Sparkle is good as LoA support, we just didn’t know about it on her debut.

Just sucky as dps

[spare folio]

Oh nice so I can buy 1 copy of ely from shop
Need another copy to reduce her sp problem

[ember locust]

She's more towards Vita's value as for now, since she supports WS and ??? ARs, Sena but Fire Tunality

[feral epoch]

sparkle good as dps if you have hofi + vita

any WS dps is good if have them

[willow pumice]

[ember locust]

It's her BiS yes, but due to her weathers, she's more niche as a DPS than as a support

She's only good as a DPS for QUA and Fire content (but only better in Tonatiuh Fire)

[feral epoch]

sure

compare that to lamp

[ember locust]

Lamp is still better than Sparkle as a DPS, quite litterally

Bc Lantern has more weathers, but even herself she's powercrept by HoHe in most of her weathers currently, except fire ones

[upper mulch]

sparkle die in hsr quick sparkle die in hi3 quick

or maybe sparkle was never even alive in either

[glass nacelle]

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[feral epoch]

you forgot trio

[glass nacelle]

Keksumi moment

[ember locust]

Trio is not top scoring in QUA weathers nor in Fire ones, but only in IMG content

But Trio can be an alternative if you new HoFi's gear

[feral epoch]

i mean, you're talking about lamp and hoh in lamp weather. just stating that you forgot trio also good for some of lamp weather

[glass nacelle]

Rpc

[ember locust]

Yes indeed, but that's an alternative

[feral epoch]

no, s0 lamp dead by trio

[ember locust]

Ain't that one can be taken by HoHe too kekw

[glass nacelle]

by high rank trio

[ember locust]

Only with high ranks lol

[glass nacelle]

S0 trio in 2025

[ember locust]

In most cases, they're just an alternative

Nothing else

@glass nacelle I'm pretty sure that only Mobius cannot be taken by HoHe

Simply bc she's Ice resistant lol

[glass nacelle]

taken by new kiana

Just joke, mobius need hit count

[ember locust]

☠️☠️ Oh damn Lantern is really powercrept as a DPS already

[glass nacelle]

[ember locust]

Oh yeah, I was like "huuuh"

[feral epoch]

new kiana dps is mid except during stellar outburst, and that is only for 1 combo atk

[ember locust]

That's litterally any current DPS except Thelema

Maybe

[glass nacelle]

No songque no party in sd content

[feral epoch]

1 combo atk

[mossy escarp]

ded by 8.3 trust

[ember locust]

Bc of AR only going for QTE

[glass nacelle]

*8.2

[ember locust]

Dead in none of them, she would still has her support in WS

[feral epoch]

can't wait for kiana new ring support like sena for almost whole 8.x patch characters

[ember locust]

Kekw Sena + Bita 2.0

[mossy escarp]

where keklema banner mhy

[ember locust]

Carnival 💀💀

I don't really understand why they rerun Sena litterally right before the spending event

It's litterally baiting

[feral epoch]

that's the answer, you already understand it

[mossy escarp]

also why tf pity doesnt carry over in carnival

so skem

[steep axle]

No pity caryy 😭

20 free pulls and a dream

[mossy escarp]

2 coralie or smth

[steep axle]

I need a support 😔

I also need dudu weapon

Hope 8.2 is a skip i need dudu weapon

[glass nacelle]

They just copy text skill for new ring like loa kek

No more sena 2.0

[mossy escarp]

senagood kiabad real

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1S1fUYkEzf

S songque rot when

[tulip swift]

What tier is Trio nowadays

Given we got all these new powercreep stuffs

iirc trio can easily carry you up til like before the red rank

This is ignoring whatever weather / conditions there are

[ember locust]

Dead except in IMG content

For higher competitives tiers

[glass nacelle]

kebin belike

[tulip swift]

Naruhodo

[ember locust]

In Nirv, it's deadge except for IMG, same for RL

[tulip swift]

Oh yeah , abt artbook

We got a date alrdy or what

[ember locust]

Taken by Thelema Sena and co.

[glass nacelle]

nope

[ember locust]

Neutral boss kekw

[tulip swift]

Any estimations or are we literally trying to neko kick in the dark

[glass nacelle]

[ember locust]

No date, seems pretty dead for GLB servers

[glass nacelle]

cnonly glblul

[tulip swift]

Sadge

Well hopefully we get a notice soon

[short knoll]

wont say trio dead in RL except for IMG, they do pretty well last few cycle iirc

[tulip swift]

Cus my laptop is runnin gout of storage for Honkai updates

I had to delete TF2 to get an extra 30GB for HI3

[ember locust]

Top line is litterally Lantern Bita Thelema

Dawg

💀💀

Not Trio

[glass nacelle]

it's just low temp

[tulip swift]

I can't afford anything other than trio

My crystals don't allow it

[glass nacelle]

high temp like ios trio is top score

[tulip swift]

[ember locust]

It's the topline in Myriad, tf you mean low D

In CN servers

[glass nacelle]

lantern ~ 540 - 543
trio 545 or above ig

[tulip swift]

is this refering to SS scores?

Like 21545

[ember locust]

540ish is NOT low D

Most servers doesn't even go to 540ish D

[hoary mountain]

im not gonna regret pulling HoHE divine key will i?

[ember locust]

No, if you have her at high ranks

And even like that, a DK is still giving like at least 10 ATK

[willow perch]

Ya

I got SS2 so Im ballin

[hoary mountain]

i dont have her at high ranks

[ember locust]

Which rank ?

[hoary mountain]

S

[ember locust]

Ooof

[hoary mountain]

i got her from the freebie

also dont have serapeum. i got songque tho

[glass nacelle]

ios ~548 bro

and trio is better

[ember locust]

I said most servers, doesn't mean I was talking about CN ones

[hoary mountain]

im afraid to ask. how much tougher do bosses become at nirvana

[ember locust]

Even though Ik there's a lot of CN servers

[hoary mountain]

compared to redlotus i have never been at nirvana

actually not bosses. the filler stages

[feral epoch]

mostly you'll just get 15k and sleep then

[ember locust]

Oh boi, I've never been be there but if you're no whale, don't even think about it💀💀

[feral epoch]

don't need to whale to go there

[ember locust]

Stay in RL, you will be more at peace

[ember locust]

Oh yeah no, but to maintain there ? Yes

[hoary mountain]

until these past weeks i've been boucning between redlotus and agony

only recently did i finnaly stick onto redlotus

[feral epoch]

why bother maintain if don't even have the teams and resources

[hoary mountain]

im greedy i want crystals

[feral epoch]

goodluck to nirvana

[rain isle]

I have retained Nirv as f2pleb a couple times

But that was cause of luck with brackets lol.

[feral epoch]

rl and maintain nirv is only 20 crystals difference, unless you go top 50-100

[rain isle]

Yus, it ain't worth it

If you can stay in RL you're good

Even ago3 is fine

[hoary mountain]

aight sick

that makes me feel less guilty about getting ely divine key. i want it just for fun ngl

and its versatile

im gonna die of old age before we get a Bio valk

[feral epoch]

for atk stats, good

[ember locust]

RL still better for future investment, but mixing up between both is also good

[rain isle]

Yus

[hoary mountain]

i hated swinging between RL and agony cuz i would always end up in agony when my weathers came up

[rain isle]

It is easy to get to RL anyway. And uh, relatively easy for asian servers maybe XD

[feral epoch]

the same, but rl-nirv

[rain isle]

Me as well, XD

[hoary mountain]

does anyone have a video of divine key elysia in elysian realm

theres none on youtube and it makes me sadge

[rustic sinew]

Divine key?

[feral epoch]

i still don't get where's the fun in rougelike mode for any games, just a hassle for me

[hoary mountain]

yea the new frickin equipment

[rustic sinew]

Ah

Try searching on bilibili

[hoary mountain]

the pink jesus form

nope but theres mobius gameplay

2nd best option

[plucky cradle]

roguelike is always fun

[plucky cradle]

check out mine

[glass nacelle]

fund me sss hoh thanks

[plucky cradle]

[feral epoch]

t1 ios

[glass nacelle]

nice recommend

no sera moment

[feral epoch]

weird recommend

[ember locust]

💀💀💀 Elysia one-shotting Aponia 2nd phase, wth rank is your HoHe ?

[plucky cradle]

ss2

[ember locust]

💀💀💀 Not even SSS wth

[plucky cradle]

it's just big multipliers

[ember locust]

I guess I can do the same shit in SS1

[plucky cradle]

yep

or even ss0

[ember locust]

[plucky cradle]

bye miss pink elf

[feral epoch]

[strange lintel]

I have s2 hohe rn and could get those 5 stamps from the shop in 8.1 , so those stamps are enough for SS Hohe right?

[glass nacelle]

what's your hoh rank

[feral epoch]

ss0

[smoky lintel]

yes 50 frags from S2 to SS

[copper shale]

did this not work btw

[glass nacelle]

need ss sera to work kek

[muted mauve]

wait is the boss Kasumi?

[glass nacelle]

ye

[feral epoch]

real

[copper shale]

ah thought u have ss sera

[feral epoch]

ss songque s teri

[copper shale]

[glass nacelle]

lantern works fine with ss songque, hoh nope

cd ring is annoying

[feral epoch]

i have on my sea acc

[copper shale]

u play 2 accs? so much energy

[glass nacelle]

so whel

[copper shale]

true

[copper shale]

ss teri where

[glass nacelle]

sleep

[copper shale]

affix

[copper shale]

that looks pretty high score from all the refs ive seen so far

everything looks like ss sera to be higher

theres a 770 with s sera but idk how copiable is that

[feral epoch]

what d

[copper shale]

509

doomed

theres also this but no idea what d he is

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ovfUYJEP2/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

+3 dk tho

[feral epoch]

p1 team

[copper shale]

yea

possibly cuz jk helps a lot with breaking shield

but looks really big diff between s sera and ss sera

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EyfmYsEiL/

[glass nacelle]

ss sera helps the first rot

[nova osprey]

Time to get dkey only to never use ely dps

[copper shale]

p1 team

[nova osprey]

Kira and pardo ungeared

[copper shale]

doomed

[nova osprey]

Hey i can still use her as support on like 1-2 boss

[copper shale]

but it does depend on server, ios/official/bilibili will be more competitive in general, you might get away for not having ss sera cuz we in sea

[feral epoch]

in eu

[copper shale]

if bracket luck good enough i think can get away with not having ss sera in sea

[glass nacelle]

keksumi moment

[copper shale]

did kasumi dodge it

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

[copper shale]

apparently as long as ur sushang is geared then u just bring any other wod support in, ie sena

[verbal mountain]

omg keksumi boss

[ember locust]

Geared with weap bc Turgnev also works with Mei Beach

[copper shale]

i mean 4/4, because jk gives dmg bonuses to shield

otherwise jk does nothing

[ember locust]

To team, indeed, Sushang also has shieldbreak on SS

[feral epoch]

i really hate hoh gameplay and kasumi sudden teleport

[copper shale]

and thats not good enough, either u 4/4 or dont go

[glass nacelle]

kek

[nova osprey]

My sus is 4/4 but only ss

[copper shale]

kasumi was always annoying

[willow perch]

[copper shale]

where sss

[glass nacelle]

elybad

[copper shale]

she just pricy

[nova osprey]

No where to be found

[copper shale]

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

scam 20

[rain isle]

Hiii~

[ember locust]

Either pull in 20 or scam in 20

[feral epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961520987294298141/1333456669828448343/this-shit-is-so-ass-ass.png

[glass nacelle]

keksumi moment

[copper shale]

lmao

[glass nacelle]

sleep

[feral epoch]

finally

[glass nacelle]

[rotund ravine]

HoH without thele and sera is a skip?

[lone grove]

[rain isle]

[umbral spoke]

idk how next patch is even gonna go with 9 weeks of runtime

won't people just sleep at some point?

[novel adder]

Should I get new Kiana w wep or elysia gears and dkey?

[rain isle]

Who knows why that long of a patch?

I know last year's was 8 weeks

[feral epoch]

yes

[umbral spoke]

and how did that go?

[rain isle]

Idr

[umbral spoke]

just reruns later?

[rain isle]

Ye there's always reruns

[ember locust]

Both tbh if you own HoHe

[rain isle]

Although people were too busy bashing on the game to care about patch length at the time. Lol

[umbral spoke]

huh? what for

[rain isle]

people still do hate on the game but it is what it is

Eh I'd rather not have this conversation tbh, not the place for it anyway

[umbral spoke]

yeah sry I'm just legit clueless

[rain isle]

That's oki, not your fault

On a more positive note, love your ram icon, cute

[feral epoch]

free 2800 crystals in mail moment

[umbral spoke]

aw thank you

[rain isle]

🍞

[umbral spoke]

i wanna find more ram pics

but hard to do, most people like sheeps without horns more

anyway, to ask something on-topic, thelema won't lose her relevance with HoHe right?

i mean at least for shieldbreak she is currently essential

and I was thinking of getting her weapon after making a mistake and pulling her on carnival supply. I wanna end this with another mistake but enough savings

like idk, it's been haunting me since. kinda need her sig for jds team too

[novel adder]

I’m broke

[rain isle]

No, if anything HoHe needs Thelema support

[umbral spoke]

okay so i actually have 2 reasons now to complete her

[rain isle]

Well, up to u

[umbral spoke]

my plan was: Thelema wep > Badum > Ely dk if enough funds

[rain isle]

If you don't have that much, I'd think a lot about it

[umbral spoke]

i have enough for one valk on patch day

[rain isle]

Unless you don't care about abyss etc., in which case go nuts

[umbral spoke]

plus gear ofc

[umbral spoke]

i do care sadly so i have to be careful about it

[rain isle]

H m

[umbral spoke]

at least I have all LoA supports so far for kiana

[rain isle]

Personally I'd leave Thelema wep last

[umbral spoke]

unless not pulling dudu screws me over

[feral epoch]

just wait for abyss calendar later to see which valk more relevant for 8.1

[umbral spoke]

okay

[rain isle]

Get the new stuff first if you want it, I'd say. But yeah, best to wait for now.

We still have a bit over 3 weeks till 8.1 for glblul

[umbral spoke]

ik, just want to be prepared

so i ask early, not too late

[rain isle]

Unfortunately for me I'll go get everything tho. My savings

[umbral spoke]

yeah that was vita patch for me

awful suffering times

[rain isle]

Vita patch was just Vita+Waxing moon

[umbral spoke]

still 3 banners at once

and now its worse

[rain isle]

This is Badum Kiana, Ely dkey, Teri aop, Vita pyramid fit

[umbral spoke]

pity is nonexistent now

right... teri

[feral epoch]

i'm still wondering should i pull hofi (missing t stigs only ) or ss teri or 8.2 valks

[umbral spoke]

and the bridges

[rain isle]

I never pulled ELFs/Aops before Sera lol

[umbral spoke]

i never pulled aop at all

[rain isle]

And Sera I only pulled cause I was omega lucky with Songque

Ye it ain't worth it for f2pleb

[umbral spoke]

only have 2* bunny from last spending, planning to make her 3*

[rain isle]

But I want to have a Teri XD

I'll get Seewe stamps

My HoRB will be SS

[umbral spoke]

idk if horb is even worth getting, i have no stigs nor wep

unless she's next to get dk

[final locust]

likely

[rain isle]

Right now? Not very worth it, as much as it pains me to say.

But ye she might get dkey next, who knows?

[umbral spoke]

i mean people underestimated sparkle's worth too, so since then I'm second guessing

[final locust]

might? you mean will
no one else left out of the relevant herrschers

[rain isle]

Realistically speaking she should be next, unless they give FoV or Luna one first, then Seele idk lol

[umbral spoke]

or bronya

but she should get a new valk honestly

[rain isle]

HoTruth? Nah I don't think they'll give her one

[umbral spoke]

no, silverwing

[rain isle]

HoFi Kiana got one, and onega buffed HoO as well through it

Ah, nah she ain't getting anything XD

[umbral spoke]

i mean we kinda lack bio

[rain isle]

More possible to get new Bronya atp

[umbral spoke]

like 0 bio

[rain isle]

Ye no p2 bio, weirdly enough.

[umbral spoke]

what i meant

[feral epoch]

kinda doubt for fov since, every valk have that dkey is almost always major character, and SW and fov is box banner

[umbral spoke]

maybe alt helia is gonna be playable

[rain isle]

Should be. At least I hope so

[rain isle]

Ye that's fair. I just feel like FoV Hua is important enough to maybe get something idk

XD

[umbral spoke]

its a hope, i mean she's a villain right now that could just be cocolia situation. Non-playable one arc villain

[gleaming imp]

All of us who skipped FoV having having to compete with the SS+ FoVs with DK with no fov or fov dk

[umbral spoke]

or few arcs, but that's more story dependent

[umbral spoke]

new bio when FoV f2ps are SSS trust

my theory is just that they need to design bio enemies and bosses before making the valks

[glass nacelle]

elymid

[umbral spoke]

kinda like how husk-nihilis was psychic in story

[feral epoch]

show t1 gear

[umbral spoke]

because IMG wasn't a thing

only a bit later

[sinful crown]

[glass nacelle]

ss1 + ss que

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

flash

[ember locust]

As excepted from Pink Jesus

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-elysian-realm-elysia-ellie-gif-26487019

[abstract night]

Goody

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-flashbang-friday-flashbang-csgo-cs2-cs-gif-10870382446082917936

[abstract night]

Need aponia to last as long as she can in RL

[ember locust]

Imagine if they bring a Bio valk right after 8.1

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362

[glass nacelle]

everyone is preparing for cny

[void dawn]

is teri AOp good for Vita or Songque better?

[willow pumice]

Teri is better stat-wise (considerably higher in AC, slightly more in SO, depends what ranks we're talking about here), but you shouldn't pull it solely for Vita.
The RoO part is a bonus. The main reason to pull it is for LoAscension teams.

[void dawn]

yes, im planning to pull Kiana. Thank you morisu

[willow pumice]

And Songque will only get worse if the next RoO to support her doesn't have Resonance tag

[void dawn]

oh oof

[glass nacelle]

how to trigger (6)

[willow pumice]

get the item

[void dawn]

I need that cope pulls image, where is it...

[glass nacelle]

[ember locust]

Eden OwO

[final locust]

when will we know who's in next BP?

[ember locust]

We don't know yet officially

But we're almost certain that Luna is the next one to come in BP. The only thing we don't know is who is gonna be with her

[vocal compass]

I was advised to ask here but when is Elysia's AR coming to global? I thought it was going to be shortly but I still don't see it as a banner and I'm saving my pulls for her new gear

[final locust]

20th february

[final locust]

if we follow trends its hohe i guess? cuz shes in supply shop

[ember locust]

Logically yes, problem ? HoHe has already reran in the last BP

[final locust]

who says they cant run twice

theyre running out of p1 valks ngl

[ember locust]

For gears, it can happen. The characters never reran twice

[final locust]

the only other p1 valk they can put is fov

[shrewd socket]

whops

[final locust]

maybe itll be her then

[gleaming imp]

And LV

[ember locust]

But they didn't run HoFi or HoRb too

Though, HoRb won't run in BP immediately due to gear being there (in 8.1 BP)

[final locust]

well LV is already essentially guaranteed

bc she's in supply shop

but hohe cant be so sure of

[final locust]

running hofi would be pointless bc theyd have to put her old gear and its useless

[gleaming imp]

Don't forget her majesty the queen sirin

[final locust]

already been in BP

[gleaming imp]

Oh it did

[ember locust]

Aponia and Vill-V are the only ones so far that are guaranteed to not run in the BP ever @final locust

[final locust]

ugh pls not either of them

[ember locust]

Bc they have been completly skipped

[final locust]

i want hohe

so i can continue ranking her

[ember locust]

^^ NOT run

[final locust]

omg i could rank her sm 😍 to like SS2

[shrewd socket]

forgot to pick duonigue

[ember locust]

Tbh, very unlikely for valk to rerun. The gear might though

[final locust]

im gonna get S3 from the whel box and SS from supply shop, and BP has 4 stamps + 40 frags

ugh thats only SS1 FUCK

[final locust]

i need stamps

stamps will come

idrc about valk
gear would be dumb tho

[ember locust]

@final locust Also, Susannah's gear are currently in the BP just like Hare's and HoRb's one

[gleaming imp]

Unrelated but I had a nightmare that I went in on lamp adv for Valk and SS and got weapon in first pull and did abyss with her and her dmg was abysmal even with my vita and senawho

[ember locust]

Tbh if we could take a guess for next BP it would be :

• Luna LV Valk
• Luna's weap
• Luna's stigs
• FoV valk
• FoV's weap
• FoV's stigs
• Kira's weap
• Kira's stigs
• SD Griseo's weap
• SD Griseo's stigs

@final locust @gleaming imp

[gleaming imp]

Kirabad griesobad

Though I would get Kira weapon

[ember locust]

Kirabad in which sense

[gleaming imp]

Soon to be replaced by the p2 p1 ice support Valk since it's the SP Valk that gets replaced

[ember locust]

Oh meta you mean

[ember locust]

No, Sirin have already ran, along with Silverwing

[gleaming imp]

TA replaced, CN replaced, GD replaced, up next Kira out

[final locust]

what are they gonna do for 8.5 tho

[ember locust]

Kira is kinda already replaced by Vita though

[final locust]

bc
8.2 - LV
8.3 - FoV and SP valk
8.4 SP valk and ???
8.5 ???

[ember locust]

Bc Kira is originally a multi-element support, an alternative to HoTr

[final locust]

no shes not

she just happens to work like that
like pardo

shes originally an ice support

made for ice and that's why stardance is so shit outside of ice

[ember locust]

She is, even though that she's an ice support originally. She's a multi element support thanks to her gear

[final locust]

yeah but im saying that wasnt fully intended

i mean its possible that it was ig

[edgy drift]

GD is not replaced tho

[ember locust]

It was definitely intended, otherwise her 3pc set wouldn't buff all elements

[edgy drift]

HB is entirely an ice support, Turg buffs everything

[ember locust]

(Except PHY and Bleed)

[final locust]

but just like pardo hoyo thought AE was too strong for pardo to kill so they had more freedom with her but it just ended up doing the opposite and killing AE for lightning

its the same for kira

[ember locust]

We're talking about Kira blud

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[final locust]

but in kira's case she didn't replace anything bc hotr too good

[edgy drift]

And I showed you an example that counters your point

[ember locust]

Wtf HB is doing there

[ember locust]

Oh I see

Nvm then

[final locust]

its a good point, turg is elemental but that didnt make HB good in other elements

kira just happens to be good in other places

[ember locust]

But still, Kira's stig is just built like that

[final locust]

i really hope they put hohe stamps in bp again

like really really hope. i need to rank her really bad

[ember locust]

Yeah thanks to her being bleed support

[final locust]

i love her sm and i have everything she needs except SS

[ember locust]

There is currently no current/recent bleed contender, except for Luna, Griseo and Susannah

[final locust]

LV will probably get a dkey eventually

shes too beloved and simped for hoyo to totally drop her and not give her a revival period

and BKE already proved dkeys arent exclusive to herrschers

[ember locust]

Tbh I could see her getting one just because of her popularity

[edgy drift]

VK did that some years before

[final locust]

yeah her too

[edgy drift]

And we could count FHD for AE

[ember locust]

FoV, even though she's important, she's unlikely to get one

[final locust]

and also technically judah for VP

if that counts
(it doesnt)

oh and PoS pri for SR

[ember locust]

It seems they're doing like one DK per character somehow

Unless I'm wrong

[final locust]

wdym

i dont think every character will get a dkey

just herrschers/fan favorites
or when its relevant to story

like i couldnt see villv or aponia getting one

[ember locust]

Characters who got a DK :

Durandal : BKE
Theresa : Judah
Senti : Brick
Elysia : The new DK for HoHe
Kiana : Waxing Moon
Mei : 7T for HoT
Bronya : Eden for HoR

[edgy drift]

theresa : judah and sakura
Hua : Brick and FHD

[final locust]

7T is NOT for HoO

[ember locust]

I mean more like one per current important charactze

[ember locust]

I wanted to put HoT 🤦‍♂️, I f*cked up with keyboard

[final locust]

what is the dkey called in eng wait i dont know its name

[edgy drift]

Kiana also got ToE but that was more minor and not really used

[ember locust]

Seven Thunders of Retribution

Hence why, you call it 7T

[final locust]

no the elysia diey

dkey

[edgy drift]

idt we have the official en names before the en beta

[final locust]

what is the tl

[ember locust]

I don't know honestly, we won't get an official one before the beta

[edgy drift]

unless the patch preview event is up already

[final locust]

what beta time for apps already passed

[final locust]

also is arc city srsly like $40

[edgy drift]

yup

[final locust]

OH so beautiful

[edgy drift]

you do get the same amount of crystals back as its b-chips cost tho

but still damn expensive

[abstract night]

Utu?

[ember locust]

Thanks, I forgot to write that one, Utu for Himeko

[edgy drift]

You also forgot Sakura and FHD

[hasty cedar]

piece of shit

[ember locust]

Yes Fenghuang Down the F2P one for Hua

[ember locust]

?????

[edgy drift]

the f2p one is Grips of taixuan

[edgy drift]

pledge of sakura -> POS -> this

[ember locust]

One more ref to Flamechasers and I'll cry

[feral epoch]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aufXY9EPs/

[ember locust]

[verbal mountain]

fenghuang pinions? was that for anyone

[edgy drift]

nah that was just random bullshit go

[ember locust]

Not really

[edgy drift]

wasn't ever used or good for anything

[final locust]

who is xy sword for

[edgy drift]

nobody

[hasty cedar]

wait till you play hsr

[ember locust]

Ah you mean Amphoreus

[final locust]

no he means herta space station

[ember locust]

No he means Penacony

[hasty cedar]

vill v should've been in penacony smh

[hasty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-honkai-star-rail-hsr-phainon-honkai-star-rail-phainon-hsr-gif-17656679022360913101

tbh hi3 kebin gameplay is better

[distant lagoon]

well it´s just the start. kevin´s story wasn´t created in one patch

[edgy drift]

better than ?

[hasty cedar]

phainon baseball bat gameplay

[edgy drift]

there's no gameplay at all tho

[hasty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-hsr-bat-trick-smooth-gif-8635692140546685578

[edgy drift]

that's a cutscene yeah ?

[rain isle]

Yus

[hoary mountain]

is this just an extremely fancy name for a wedding

[hoary mountain]

omg phainon my beloved

[final locust]

no

its like a coronation. another name for it if you will
of royals and/or jesus

so pink jesus real confirmed

[hoary mountain]

the pink jesus lore continues

[feral epoch]

no energy with all other hoyogames ww and ba

[edgy drift]

The fancy wedding name you were maybe thinking about is betrothal (or very rarely used betrothment)

[muted mauve]

无瑕 is supposed to be pristine like Elysia's title of Pristine Human.
册礼 is a bit context dependent.

[soft prawn]

the event gameplay is so fun fr

[muted mauve]

uh. Sa's clothes got dyed

[ember locust]

Kiana and Thelema shill

[glass nacelle]

ded

DS rot kek
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WzfSYiEvF

[final locust]

how cooked is she with DS

[copper shale]

well ss sera was 835 but thats diff server, official server with ss ds can go to 780-790, so its like 40 points diff

[final locust]

holy fuck 😭

glad i pulled SS sera

[abstract night]

S0 Songque? (With sena)

[copper shale]

what songque

[final locust]

good to get first SO
good luck on 2nd SO

[abstract night]

SS?

[final locust]

good for both

[abstract night]

Op

[final locust]

but sera better ofc

[glass nacelle]

[abstract night]

So SS songqueop is comparable to ss sera

[short knoll]

anything is good for red lotus

[final locust]

no

[abstract night]

I meant for HoH

[final locust]

SS sera has better regen
she is the best for getting first SO, and the best for getting second SO
songque is good for getting first SO, and good for getting second SO
DS is bad

[short knoll]

feel like next mini spending should have free AO

around 8.3

[glass nacelle]

free sss ds yes

[final locust]

sss ds is free anyway

but sss ds is shit ss is the real big one

[copper shale]

ios so far its 770+ with ss songque vs 823 with ss sera

[final locust]

how

[copper shale]

ss songque dont do anyhting

[abstract night]

Sad

[final locust]

yes she does

with sena at least

[abstract night]

Assuming sena thelema right?

[final locust]

25 more initial ARI and 20 ARI after SO

[copper shale]

yea

[abstract night]

Then yeah she does stuff better than dreamseeker

[final locust]

i dont know how SS sera manages to be that much better

[glass nacelle]

hoh 2nd wp is big

similar to songque 3rd combo atk

[copper shale]

thats cuz the 823 is 2 cycle to kill

if u do 3 cycle its 797 (missing dk, bad affixes, low rank), still almost 30 points higher than ss songque

[final locust]

how does songque end up taking 3 cycles?

[copper shale]

why does it not take up 3 cycles? that 797 is still sera

sognque is like 770

[final locust]

so how many dkeys can you be missing

because im missing about
all of them except waxing moon abyss flower and enthronement ceremony

[copper shale]

no clue

because ur asking something acc specific and its related to the d

ios is 513

[final locust]

ill probably take 3 cycle

[final locust]

RL?

[copper shale]

yup

[final locust]

gosh golly goodness gracious

yeah i should be able to 2 cycle it in NA RL

[copper shale]

just for reference that 823 in ios is 1583 ss1 ely + 1486 s0 thel

[abstract night]

And...what?

[final locust]

ely dk

[abstract night]

Wtf

[final locust]

Immaculate Love: Enthronement Ceremony
not official name tho

thats just the tl

[abstract night]

Smh

[feral epoch]

[somber egret]

Pristine

[kindred needle]

Is the cn schedule the same as global

[final locust]

@somber egret

[naive briar]

[gleaming imp]

Question if I'm seeing it right 8.1 spending event lasts long enough for hofin adv to happen during it?

[glass nacelle]

pins

[somber egret]

Official term used is Pristine instead of Immaculate

[final locust]

we have EN name?

[final locust]

immaculate better

when is the EN beta

[somber egret]

LNY Vacation is until Feb 10

[final locust]

apps should have already rolled out by now

[somber egret]

EN Beta might start on Week 6 of 8.0

[final locust]

breh

hyv employees always off

[somber egret]

But there's no registration yet.

From previous betas with the same case, registration is earlier than usual before vacation

[final locust]

im sayin

no EN beta possible?