🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[final locust]

well not too many, more like two per ring

[verbal mountain]

yes so she can be mid

[final locust]

she's not mid her buffs are good

idk about her latest adjustments tho i havent actually read them

[sinful crown]

[verbal mountain]

she's mid because there are a couple of options better than her

i'm not calling her utter piece of garbage

just mid

[sinful crown]

i shouldve pulled sparkle

[final locust]

but the buffs are good so she'll be good for new ring 🛐

[final locust]

shes better than sparkle trust lmfao

[short knoll]

she is a WoD ice range dps and she is good at it

[sinful crown]

oh fr? that's good

[final locust]

sparkle is only good in LoA

her dps is shit her support is exclusive for teri in WS teams
sparkle is a whale pull for whales who can afford her bc theyre whales

[verbal mountain]

sparkle is only good in LoA but she's damn good in LoA

[short knoll]

sparkle is for p1 fire dps

[final locust]

oh that too ig

but ely is infinitely more versatile and futureproof

[abstract night]

When is the earliest (if you know) week, that the fancy outfit box is obtainable?

[final locust]

and the better dps 🛐

[edgy drift]

Uuuh, that's just cope

[final locust]

apo outfit is in timecapsule no

[edgy drift]

It's like saying Cora is more versatile and future proof, it's technically correct but you'd never want to use her if you have a choice

[shrewd socket]

HoRb Dkey footage

[final locust]

trust im playing the long game

[short knoll]

watch new p1 ice support make p1 ely better than p2 ely

[final locust]

she will be so good in new ring i can taste it
elysia will slay the house boots down houston im deceased

[edgy drift]

There most likely won't be a P1 ice support either way

[verbal mountain]

i mean is there a point making a new p1 ice support?

all p1 ice dpses are dead

[abstract night]

Yes?
I need the 100 outfit tickets
For her outfit
Im at like 57 pink tickets
100+
157 and i can barley afford it, as it costs 148

[final locust]

yeah the only reason to make it is for SW and shes 6ft under

[edgy drift]

P1 ice is too old, they don't have anything to support

[glass nacelle]

leek hrb dkey

[short knoll]

there is no point of making new p1 support for anything but here we are

[edgy drift]

Luna, FoV and Sirin still had some life cycle left in them

So they didn't die in 3-4 patches

[verbal mountain]

p1 ice is much worse off than anything else p1

[edgy drift]

P1 phys support Dudu already barely does a thing and is mostly cosmetic

[short knoll]

p1 ely is still a pick tho

[final locust]

its not

[verbal mountain]

but why release a dkey for her then

[sinful crown]

whale bait

[verbal mountain]

if they wanted to make a p1 ice support why give the only viable p1 ice dps a dkey

[scarlet sapphire]

They still want to remind the playerbase of how awful SSS Aponia is every once in a while

[short knoll]

like other p1 support, FoV sirin still dead, just novelty

[edgy drift]

AR Dudu team shits on her now

[final locust]

FoV and sirin still had juice in them

[verbal mountain]

they still held some topscores

[abstract night]

[verbal mountain]

p1 ice is like 100% dead, maybe a few old bosses that have not ran in 70 years

[short knoll]

make new starless boss, easy

[final locust]

SW technically still has the ice husk
whenever that decides to run again

[verbal mountain]

idk if starless is saving a 3 year old dps

[edgy drift]

She just loses to HoH atp

[final locust]

no you need kira it has an HP loss mechanic

[short knoll]

im talking about p1 ely too smh

[scarlet sapphire]

Starless weather doesn't actually penalize AR teams, it's not enough to make Silverwing or HoR relevant

[verbal mountain]

p1 ely is more cope than that

[edgy drift]

SW ain't getting saved by starless lmao

[shrewd socket]

bita

[final locust]

its a whole HP bar of HP loss health, vita is not doing shit

[edgy drift]

They won't release something to encourage not pulling the dkey

[verbal mountain]

mobius got saved, ignore that she needed 2 new supports and a boss with 100% mechanics made towards her

[scarlet sapphire]

That's why they made a ranged weather Heph to give old HoH her token shill boss, that's -50% damage for Thel and fire immunity to wall Lamp

[short knoll]

they encourage you to pull 2 things, why not

[final locust]

a boss that gives her 37 sp packs because her and LV decided to have horrid sp issues

[short knoll]

new dkey and new ice support

[edgy drift]

Yeah, SW doesn't have anything like Mobi that could actually help her DMG from the boss

[final locust]

the problem is kira - new support - ely is not going to beat ely - vita - thelema or ely - sena - thelema

[short knoll]

we will see but there are many way to make p1 ely better if they want to

[verbal mountain]

if you already have dkey there's gonna be very little incentive to get new p1 ice supp if dkey ely still does decently on the boss

like p1 ely is just pure cope in my view

[short knoll]

again, p1 support is more of a novelty

that new p1 support is p2 valk too

[edgy drift]

If they wanted to make P1 Ely better they wouldn't release a P2 Dkey tho

[verbal mountain]

i don't see how it's novelty when it actually helped other valks who still had topscores, meanwhile dkeyless ely holds nothing but okay

[final locust]

ely actually could be a really good dps now that im thinking about how many bosses she and lantern (used) to have combined

[novel elbow]

so ely bad ?

[short knoll]

when was the last time p1 simp got used again

[shrewd socket]

bleed VV?

[final locust]

starless bena

oh p1 support?

[verbal mountain]

bleed vv

[final locust]

bleed vv ye

[glass nacelle]

[final locust]

i thought u were talking about that weird simp dps comp where she uses zeno

[verbal mountain]

p1 support sparkle is getting used 2 times this patch

p1 support dudu is getting used 1 time this patch

[final locust]

atp FoV doesnt have much left in her, as soon as a p2 bio comes out shes gone

[shrewd socket]

watch Kiana do more dmg than Sirin (clueless)

[verbal mountain]

sirin would be first in line unless they keep her ignite niche for some reason

[edgy drift]

It'd have to be fire too

[final locust]

they will

idk they kinda hate ignite and bio

[short knoll]

not sure if simp help luna here

[final locust]

fym

[abstract night]

Well no! Senti existed

[verbal mountain]

pretty sure she's been used on every single lv cycle post her release

[final locust]

also wtf lightning gaymas sena last dance

[short knoll]

like without simp, luna should still be the same right?

[glass nacelle]

26k

[final locust]

what

[verbal mountain]

simp more points

[edgy drift]

Well she does less dmg

And slower rot

[short knoll]

still the best for her boss?

[abstract night]

Sci also gives 99.9% guaranteed breach every time for lv

[final locust]

wonder if theyll continue with the trend of replacing SP valks and go for CE eventually

[edgy drift]

LV without simp was losing to Susan on VV iirc

[abstract night]

CE is the allmighty bleed dmg support

SI is the allmighty bleed support

[final locust]

SI sneak

[abstract night]

[edgy drift]

That's like saying Kira does nothing for HoH because she beats every non-HoH team on heph even with pardo

[verbal mountain]

wow wtf sparkle is getting shilled more this patch than on her release

[final locust]

only 1 boss no?

[verbal mountain]

1 boss as dps
5 as support

[edgy drift]

LoA moment

[final locust]

jfc why did they make sparkle support so good in LoA

shes really not even that good she just has a lot of timestop

[verbal mountain]

yeah that's why she's good

buffs aren't the only power scale

[final locust]

im saying her numbers arent that good

[edgy drift]

"She's really not even that good she just is good"

[proper fern]

I love cheese

[abstract night]

Why would they make a collab valk that can support
Bad

[edgy drift]

Her numbers are good too tho

[proper fern]

Cheese

[final locust]

because she literally is bad LoA is her only redeeming factor

[short knoll]

not wrong, every powercreep is unnecessary

[edgy drift]

Sparkle DMG buff is barely behind Vita's

But she takes a 5th of her field time

[abstract night]

Nu uh
Be nice shes not that bad

Shes just worse compared to other pt2 valks, on the lower end of the road

[verbal mountain]

and reduces ult cd, which is either immense point gain or nothing

[final locust]

yeah a lot worse

[abstract night]

No other valk gave Ult cdr

[final locust]

really good in LoA
then she just flops

[edgy drift]

Eh she's a good qua DPS overall too

[shrewd socket]

that's called being bad

[final locust]

but teri just ends up taking half her bosses anyway

[edgy drift]

But not by much

[verbal mountain]

it's kinda hard to not make teri irrelevant otherwise

[proper fern]

Amogus

[verbal mountain]

sparkle should've been wod

[final locust]

ew pls no

[abstract night]

Nu uh

[final locust]

sparkle should have not released

[shrewd socket]

Collab valk should have been March 7th

more iconic

[verbal mountain]

nah sampo

[final locust]

collab valk should have been jingliu

[verbal mountain]

genderbend him and put him in

[verbal mountain]

why she's kinda irrelevant

[final locust]

so is sparkle

[shrewd socket]

not as representative as March

[short knoll]

collab shouldnt be canon, the only reason why they pick sparkle

[final locust]

idk why they chose sparkle instead of someone hsr fans actually like

[verbal mountain]

pretty sure sparkle played a way bigger role than jingliu but ok

[short knoll]

because canon collab

[final locust]

jingliu played a huge role in HSR she just played it a long, long time ago

[mossy escarp]

Ded server

[abstract night]

I mean. Or kafka or himeko
Who actually is technically in the story (differently) (kafkas more stig focused tho, and himekos himeko)

[verbal mountain]

people like sparkle tho? unless you're talking about those people

[shrewd socket]

idt HSR fans rlly care about story

[final locust]

himeko would have genuinely made people upset

[thorny viper]

Y'all calling sparkle ass but she been carrying my abyss for weeks now

[final locust]

not enough people its just a weird pick overall when characters that half the playerbase adores are right there

[thorny viper]

I'll always appreciate her

[final locust]

thats called a skill and pull issue

[abstract night]

Wdym?

[final locust]

you know why

[shrewd socket]

how so?

[thorny viper]

?

[final locust]

thats like salt in the wound for hi3 players

[shrewd socket]

how?

[final locust]

bc shes ||dead||

[abstract night]

Spoiler
Id prob spoiler that

[shrewd socket]

erm Captainverse Himeko is right there

[shrewd socket]

that's from years ago too old to spoiler

[final locust]

well anyway if they released her as a collab character itd be funny and probably make her diehard stans mad or something

yeah himeko was in like chapter 9

[abstract night]

I mean theres another side
People would be happy, and be able to use her again, cuz her other battlesuits are old asf

[proper fern]

🗿

[final locust]

i think they should have done march 7th

[thorny viper]

I already hate the last two-3 weeks of Honkai patches idk what I'm gonna do with 9 week patches

[abstract night]

...oh
I thought u meant the day

[final locust]

yeah seriously

[shrewd socket]

play

[final locust]

i do NOT want 9 week patches
hi3 gets extremely dry after 3 weeks

[shrewd socket]

I'll love those 9 weeks

[thorny viper]

Only reason I log in daily is cause I keep buying monthly for some reason

[shrewd socket]

more savings + can slack play P1 story

[proper fern]

🗿

[thorny viper]

I should really stop tbh

[edgy drift]

Kafka stigs have nothing to do with the character

[abstract night]

[edgy drift]

It's the name of a famous writer

[abstract night]

Ah

[shrewd socket]

Kafka stig is just Franz Kafka expy

[short knoll]

you mean genderbend

[thorny viper]

Just preparing myself to slog through rerun events with only 300 xtals and some asterite outfit as reward these next few patches

[edgy drift]

Every stig that isn't just the character's name is a historical person

[shrewd socket]

yeah most stigmata are just FGO'd ppl

[edgy drift]

All Himeko fans have been asking Hoyo for a new battlesuit for ages

And to stop the bullshit, if they can spawn her in captainverse they can give her a new one

All flame chasers were dead for thousands of years, didn't stop 'em

[slate elm]

hoyo is pretty good at generating content from the dead

[shrewd socket]

they killed Que for a reason

[slate elm]

https://i.imgur.com/5pZsUwK.png

sauce https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wM4m117Ee/

[steep axle]

Hii

[shrewd socket]

[steep axle]

My phone will die in 60 seconds

[willow pumice]

v8.1 Translations V4 🧧

• v8.1 Patch Notes: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Skills: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Equipment: MI | Rentry
• Elysia Divine Key, Stigma, New Skills: MI | Rentry
• Theresa AstralOp: MI | Rentry
• Elysian Realm: MI | Rentry

[vagrant yew]

[glass nacelle]

ye they nerf her NA and buff charge atk

force use charge atk + wp now

[verbal mountain]

lots of last minute changes

idk if it's buff, nerf or blurf

[rain isle]

Oh v4, wow

Maybe you guys will be happy if they made buffs XD

[glass nacelle]

wait live server

[short knoll]

still good, more nerf pls

[rain isle]

Atp ye XD

[copper shale]

just like what they did with songque

[robust crane]

so v4 dropped?

nvm i need to scroll a bit

[dry delta]

oh my lord what did they do elysia ??

I thought they wanted to sell her not kill her completely ?

[sinful crown]

[unique swallow]

do y'all not have other hobbies

wait it's v4

did they nerf ely harder

wtf

[flint badger]

Dunno if I'm just reading wrong but looks like a buff from v3?

[terse ravine]

adjustment as we say

[copper shale]

no its nerf

[unique swallow]

LOL

[short knoll]

ely is still good for what she does

[ripe urchin]

did both Ely and Kiana get nerfed?

[unique swallow]

ah yes ranged heph my favourite

[copper shale]

ranged heph is just suffer

if u use ds better off p1 with ice ely elf

no dk at all

[ripe urchin]

i wonder if i should just skip 8.1

[unique swallow]

wat

wait

are you fr

is dkey that bad

surely not

[copper shale]

yes

[unique swallow]

oh my god

[terse ravine]

?

[unique swallow]

kekfacepalm

[copper shale]

use ss ds dont play for heph at least

[sinful crown]

yeah

[unique swallow]

wait i'm logging into beta rn

[terse ravine]

i think it's a sarcasm

[unique swallow]

i have to test this

[short knoll]

p1 ely still good

[terse ravine]

right

[sinful crown]

[unique swallow]

i'll test it

[copper shale]

well u can test, p1 ely team with ice elf not dk got 798

and then p2 team but with ss ds its like 770 at best

[sinful crown]

has a dkey been this bad

[copper shale]

just think of it as whale toy

[verbal mountain]

+10 atk for up to 60 pulls

great deal

[copper shale]

i'll be honest if no ss sera, maybe just skip it, theres more stuff u prob missing than 10 atk is gonna do

[ember locust]

2 seconds before disaster

[verbal mountain]

can always backpull next time it runs if it's like important for next ring right

[unique swallow]

it probably will be

[copper shale]

backpulling just feels bad no matter what tho

[unique swallow]

sparkle moment

either way i have the xtals so i'll prob still pull

pelastare

[short knoll]

not like p2 ely has no use, she got that new tank right?

[copper shale]

yea

[dense harness]

And with Sera it's oki to p2 ?

[verbal mountain]

and stellar rpc

[ember locust]

Wtf V4

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DVfaY8Ehu

[copper shale]

ss sera + thelema yes

[sinful crown]

ohh

[short knoll]

and she is a nice pick if you dont have good p1 ely team

[unique swallow]

bait takes boss from bait

peak honkai impact

[verbal mountain]

peak impact

[dense harness]

I'll pull Thel but i got only S Sera

[terse ravine]

HoFi's a total blessing tho.
maybe should have never expected from DKeys at all

[copper shale]

hard for me to say if thats worth

[sinful crown]

im never keeping high expectations

[copper shale]

hofi was a blessing yea

[ember locust]

Noooo wtf... Why the DK is so freaking bad

[dense harness]

I usually stay 2/3 rots in RL and 1/2 rots in A3 depending on good or bad rots for my acc

[terse ravine]

hmmm maybe i'll get her DKey for a support in mind only

[copper shale]

i will not comment idk, prob another patch just before live tmr

[ember locust]

🫣🫣 They f*cking nerfed the SP Regen bruuh @copper shale

[short knoll]

but how important that is?

[glass nacelle]

seem ely is good for loa support now

[little bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/dehya-dance-gif-18359981606379875245

[glass nacelle]

[dense harness]

I still cope getting Thel in the raffle

[little bronze]

No doro

[ember locust]

The DPS is

[glass nacelle]

yes doro

[ember locust]

[little bronze]

[dense harness]

Otherwise it's gonna be 💳on Thel if needed

[ripe urchin]

how did it go? is it that bad?

[copper shale]

i havent checked that

but u have source?

[short knoll]

new dkey is still a nice pick

[terse ravine]

for +20 ATK what's not

[unique swallow]

it's so over

[terse ravine]

[unique swallow]

this whale

[copper shale]

ik right

[unique swallow]

extra 120 puls for 10 atk

[terse ravine]

nou :<

[short knoll]

and other use

[copper shale]

what did u get for ranged heph?

[terse ravine]

i just have....... other priorities

[short knoll]

but spending event and horb key

[ripe urchin]

i will still pull even with all the nerfs but i wont feel very happy with the result even if i get lucky

[terse ravine]

btw Cay what's the test results

[glass nacelle]

lamp can 800+ at 548D I don't think it's too different

[short knoll]

didnt we talk about range heph?

[glass nacelle]

heph in 2025

[short knoll]

new heph weather soon

starless heph

[glass nacelle]

use psy himeko ez

[short knoll]

rather use MPE

[ripe urchin]

new Himeko battlesuit soon

[glass nacelle]

phys res tho

[short knoll]

should be better still

[glass nacelle]

and doesn't have freeze

[short knoll]

psy himeko also does lot of phys iirc

[unique swallow]

like idk 50 point diff

though i was kinda trolling on the p2 test

[glass nacelle]

good support trust

[nova osprey]

Gonna skip dkey to get ss teri instead fr fr

[verbal mountain]

gonna skip dkey to get vita outfit

[short knoll]

better elemental support capability

[unique swallow]

hoh?

[short knoll]

yes, the img above

[shrewd socket]

can't backpull sparkle so o have to pull dkey

[short knoll]

just that she seem better at that than before, whether she is better than other valk or not is unknown

[shrewd socket]

[distant lagoon]

well people went mad how our pink elf gets a relatively low buff with that new gear

[feral epoch]

meanwhile i only 0+

....

[glass nacelle]

805 t8 kek

[novel adder]

Should I get new kiana and her wep or hofi and her devine key?

[willow pumice]

hofi is only from adv now. not a wise decision to get an old valk + divine key at full cost.

[glass nacelle]

This is the biggest nerf of v3.9 ig

[ripe urchin]

is it still a good idea to roll for HoHe and Kiana? they received quite a few nerfs as far as i know but it should still be fine?

[mossy escarp]

Imma just pull kiana have enough xtals till pity already and save till 8.2

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

Was about to test new ely

[glass nacelle]

nerf again trust

[ripe urchin]

is v4 the final version?

[somber egret]

final version is live version

[naive briar]

who the hack is testing this hour of the day. nerd cabbage? okay

[ripe urchin]

oh sorry i meant usually how many versions are there before the live version?

[mossy escarp]

Last mt hour ely -99% damage

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

Morning here
I just woke up an hour ago

[mossy escarp]

AI dont need sleep

[glass nacelle]

2am in cn now

[naive briar]

what time zone is my food wifie

[somber egret]

UTC +10

[glass nacelle]

do they change anything

[somber egret]

gonna do quick test on heph

[fierce pendant]

At what time on Thursday is 8.1 CN going to be open?

[glass nacelle]

11am

9 hours left

[long forum]

Guys i haven't watched new marisa video tell me by HoH changes he means buffs

[feral epoch]

there's another change

[glass nacelle]

imagine nerf again

[supple lake]

Seems like buffs for the most part, with an adjustment to dps where they don’t want just auto spamming on her

[verbal mountain]

wasn't her auto already like not very good

seems like she does no dmg besides weap and charged now

[long forum]

That's what i'm worried abt...

[glass nacelle]

nope

[supple lake]

No it was more dmg and faster, now they made her CA and weapon active deal more

[verbal mountain]

[supple lake]

And nerfed the auto attack dmg from her shadows

[nova osprey]

Ofc its nerf

[long forum]

It's always nerf

[supple lake]

The buffed her support buffs for LoA a bit too

[somber egret]

2025 is back on Kiana Skill

[glass nacelle]

need 2025

[feral epoch]

just kiana changes?

[glass nacelle]

[long forum]

If they didn't have a 2025 she'd be easy skip

This is crucial to the meta you see

[naive briar]

there was a riot when 5.20% was changed to 5.2%

[unique swallow]

Where's the 13.14% independent multiplier for hofi

[unique swallow]

Of course right after I log off there's a change lol

[somber egret]

畏血-人偶
What boss is this

[naive briar]

you

bleed HoDom?

[somber egret]

Ahhhh

It's not a boss

[naive briar]

AI chan bad? context gib

[somber egret]

Some updates on Abyss Bosses, I was searching that one Physical Weathers and thought it's an old boss

forgor new HoDom Physical

[unique swallow]

Ai chan help me test

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

调整了「畏血-高危区」关卡内强敌「奔狼的领主」的护盾数值。

There's Physical Wolf !?

[glass nacelle]

[willow pumice]

v8.1 Translations V4B 🧧

• v8.1 Patch Notes: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Skills: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Equipment: MI | Rentry
• Elysia Divine Key, Stigma, New Skills: MI | Rentry
• Theresa AstralOp: MI | Rentry
• Elysian Realm: MI | Rentry

[mossy escarp]

Secret dudu shill

[glass nacelle]

but andrius shield has phys immune

ye 畏血 is phys weather

[feral epoch]

ew

[glass nacelle]

can u screenshot this

[smoky lintel]

someone put this wolf to sleep how many weathers does he have now ?

[willow pumice]

It's probably just a typo

[glass nacelle]

[shrewd socket]

should have made LoA Sampo smh

[glass nacelle]

ew

[verbal mountain]

more thel shill

[glass nacelle]

mobs are psy kek

[unique swallow]

Bio p2 valk incoming

[feral epoch]

smoll teams working overnight

[glass nacelle]

they will update every 2 hours trust

[rain isle]

Why does Ellie keep getting so many changes? Lmao

[novel adder]

Help

[rain isle]

Also 20.25% what

[unique swallow]

What do you think

[mossy escarp]

Backpulling in 2025

[shrewd socket]

[feral epoch]

get divine keys then new kiana, forget hofi

[unique swallow]

[rain isle]

That has to be the most random thing I've seen in these betas idk lol

[unique swallow]

At this point forget the HoFi dkey as well

[rain isle]

But hey, smol dmg increase I guess. I'll take it lol

[feral epoch]

no, need 10 atk

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/herrscher-of-human-ego-elysia-honkai-impact-gif-26335189

[unique swallow]

Most people don't

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/coralie-coralie-hi3-coralie-6626-planck-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4872284904931513485

[verbal mountain]

i'm in the quirky minority

[rain isle]

Imejin not getting finger beam back in 7.8

[unique swallow]

If you're asking, you definitely don't need the 10 atk

[shrewd socket]

Bio RoO S rank Helia

[feral epoch]

no phys wolf

[unique swallow]

Aintnoway

[rain isle]

So when are we gon get Sampo in abyss/MA?

Why the dang wolf?

[unique swallow]

Never bc hsr bad (true)

[unique swallow]

What's wrong with the wold

[shrewd socket]

but sampo boss goodge

[glass nacelle]

nice typo

[rain isle]

Idk I'd just like to see more Sampo action lol

No problem with doge

[shrewd socket]

just play Kafka Sampo RM Huo on HSR

[verbal mountain]

cay worse

(true)

[shrewd socket]

theres your Sampo action

[unique swallow]

Surely v4c gives big Ely buffs

[rain isle]

I have none of those except for Sampo kek

[unique swallow]

Ester worst

[verbal mountain]

only to get it taken away in v4d

[shrewd socket]

imagine not having RM

[unique swallow]

[feral epoch]

reseted again

[unique swallow]

Bro

[rain isle]

So everyone is talking about HoHe. But what about Kiana? She didn't receive many changes I think, but how's she looking in v4?

[unique swallow]

I am not doing that a 3rd time

Wait beta ending tmr anyway

[rain isle]

Yeye

[feral epoch]

and pulling tomorrow

[unique swallow]

Not pulling tmr I don't have cn acc

[shrewd socket]

pulling in a month

[rain isle]

I half expect v4c atp lol

[unique swallow]

Well you just answered your own question

[verbal mountain]

how do you get into cn beta without cn acc

is it just being a relatively big cc and applying kinda thing?

[unique swallow]

No big changes so just see v3 evaluations

[naive zinc]

beta V4 is crazy

[feral epoch]

there's no v4

[rain isle]

It could be the same, it could be smol buff or nerf idk

[unique swallow]

I asked dawei really nicely and he said yes

[feral epoch]

it's v3.9999

[feral epoch]

this is not final changes

[unique swallow]

You forgot a few 9s

[verbal mountain]

omg I should try that

[naive zinc]

its called beta for a reason

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/herrscher-of-human-ego-elysia-honkai-impact-gif-26335189

[naive zinc]

we could have v5

or v6

[unique swallow]

What

[rain isle]

That 20.25% becomes 2025% in v4c

[unique swallow]

Wow 1000% increase

[rain isle]

[feral epoch]

the shield is harder

[rain isle]

Oof

[glass nacelle]

nice math

[rain isle]

Which boss is dat?

[glass nacelle]

wolf

[rain isle]

Wait, isn't wolf bio?

[feral epoch]

ig now really needed dudu for it

[rain isle]

Oof XD

[feral epoch]

time to sleep

[glass nacelle]

just use vita

[rain isle]

Real

[glass nacelle]

brute force

like starless wolf

[rain isle]

Kekw

Use Thelema dps

[feral epoch]

when free Vita

[glass nacelle]

they watched moriso video

[supple lake]

they changed it againge?

why even gib her dlc

[rain isle]

[ember locust]

Finally they f*cking saved her support

[ember locust]

Bc the fans cried

[gleaming harbor]

He knows about elevenses right?

[edgy drift]

you know those are nerfs right ?

she got buffed for supp then instantly nerfed back down

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/colere-gif-12911656620295315199

[ripe urchin]

what is the maximum amount of score that the emblem can "record"?

is there a limit at all?

[spare folio]

Compared to dps vita or sena, how much better or worse dps elysia now with her new dkey ? She seems to getting nerf after nerf

[abstract night]

Or balancing

[spare folio]

Too much balancing gonna turn her into ayato

[shrewd socket]

Ely at least has use unlike ayato

[ripe urchin]

does she deal more damage than Thelema?

[spare folio]

I'm really waiting for new patch
I only have dps sena and dps vita team rn, both electro
When abyss floor has 50% electro res I get cooked, really need fire and ice team

[shrewd socket]

my man youd need phys for those

[spare folio]

Who

I have sena coralie helia vita HoFi built

HoFi is the one got dkey with Vita banner right ? I have her built

[fierce pendant]

what timezone is that?

[mossy escarp]

+8

[small wing]

Saw someone call ZZZ the most endgame focused hoyo game

Can someone confirm

[shrewd socket]

erm

looks around the same as HSR to me

[solar surge]

was it a pun? "end" can also refer to backend-developments

[spare folio]

I think zzz and hi3 has similar end game mode
Hi3 is abyss + arena + elysian realm
Zzz has shiyu + 2 other modes

[shrewd socket]

HSR has MoC + SU + PF + AS

[spare folio]

Genshin has 🤡

Lmao

[shrewd socket]

abyss and theater

[edgy drift]

well it has more than the other of the "big 3" hoyo games as it gets a reset every week compared to every other week for the others, but still less than Hi3 where it's just the entire game

[shrewd socket]

every week? they reset every month

[spare folio]

Reset time 30 days
15 days alternate

In a sense long duration is good

I get too lazy to complete abyss in hi3 many times

Too fast reset

[shrewd socket]

id [redacted] if HI3 abyss becomes once every week

[edgy drift]

ZZZ has an endgame reset every week

alternating between shiyu and deadly assault

so it's still a lot less than hi3, but way more than GI/HSR

[shrewd socket]

G game had it just fine with abyss being biweekly

but apparently is too much for their brains

[spare folio]

It'd be better if genshin's abyss was biweekly while theatre is monthly
Theatre is hard for even veteran players, new players won't have enough characters built for theatre

[shrewd socket]

hard isnt the correct word for IT

you can only suffer from either bad team or bad build

assuming you have enough units ofc

[spare folio]

Hard as in not damage wise, but not having enough character built wise

This theater that stupid natlan shield boss gave so much pain

[shrewd socket]

that's way more artificial than abyss dificulty tbh

[spare folio]

45s time while takes most of the time breaking shield

[shrewd socket]

just have Chasca or ouroron

or any Night Soul unit

actually i think even overload can clear it

[spare folio]

Theater gives character randomly
I didn't get mavuika when that boss came, had to do with hutao

[shrewd socket]

just reset the whole run

[spare folio]

Too much time waste

[celest valley]

I will max this later

[ember locust]

F*ck

Why they made her so bad

[fervent hinge]

probably because they know people will pull regardless of how shit it is

especially with synergy ranks giving atk

[gleaming imp]

I wish her DK was hofin dk strong

[ember locust]

That's horrifying

[spare folio]

She was gonna be my first ice dps, now I hear this 😭😭

[fervent hinge]

I mean you're EU

you'll be fine in RL ice content with ely as long as u have a decent team

unless they made her THAT bad but surely not

[shrewd socket]

waxing is broken bc Vita is RoO only and normal HoFi is mid

HoHe was at least decent

[ember locust]

I sure it's not the case

[verbal mountain]

does anyone have showcase vid of badum in WS team?

[verbal mountain]

or specifically just her detonating marks

[copper shale]

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[verbal mountain]

ty

[ember locust]

@copper shale How is gonna be HoHe's teams now ?

Also any changes for Kiana's teams ?

[kindred needle]

Is elysia DK useless

[ember locust]

It's useful

[kindred needle]

More useful than her old weapon?

[pulsar sparrow]

Its definitely not useless plus once she's out in CN servers you'll truly see how good she actually is

[copper shale]

if u mean teammates then nothing changed for that

[copper shale]

well its +10 by itself
but for hohe dps, you need ss sera and thel

[ember locust]

Indeed

[ember locust]

F*cking horrible they lock it behind Sera SS

Just why

[unique swallow]

Wow I haven't seen you around in a while

[distant lagoon]

guess it

[ember locust]

Idk any reason to do such a thing

[distant lagoon]

[ember locust]

As usual...

[distant lagoon]

it´s a business what do you expect

[gleaming imp]

Hofin or badum in senawho vita team?

[copper shale]

hofi

badum is if sparkle as dps

[kindred needle]

I thought it gotta be a disappointing the v2 dmg does slightly more than v3

[ember locust]

We got a v4

[dense harness]

What's behind SS but not S again ? Coz i got S Sera

[kindred needle]

Damn I never had anyone who was harmonized shadow star

[shrewd socket]

if spopo was good*

[copper shale]

extra sp for the ring

not sure point diff between s sera and ss sera, but its pretty ass to play without it

[shrewd socket]

why couldn't they make Teri work on WoD

[copper shale]

the aop? meh prob won't save it

[shrewd socket]

i mean i have to pull dkey anyway

but damn

[verbal mountain]

why would they make a versatile aop instead of baiting you to pull 3 different ones

[shrewd socket]

[kindred needle]

Does she function as support or dps

[shrewd socket]

both

[copper shale]

dps

can support if boss is tank ig

[smoky lintel]

Her loa support got buffed right or did they make another quick change to nerf her again

[shrewd socket]

she support regardless everything

if backpull spopo = no FWS

[copper shale]

some of her numbers got buffed for support yea but it don't change anything

[smoky lintel]

Putting all my hopes into ???

[shrewd socket]

i just have no other choice

[copper shale]

apparently for latest beta like, v3.999999999999, roughly 7 hrs ago there was another patch, but from what i saw its mainly just cutting hp of bosses, like what they did with dudu, instead of buffing

shouldnt change anything

think its just until live

and no more patches

[smoky lintel]

Gonna see how she performs in live then gonna pull her Dkey anyway but still would be nice to get some more use for her

[ember locust]

DPS

[half shard]

dps , and extra ring sp starter

most of SS Sera ref cant copied by S Sera unless your dps is higher rank than ref

[final locust]

16.5% elemental damage taken

[dense harness]

[gleaming harbor]

looks like we got elevenses in 3.99999999999

[short knoll]

seem like HoH buff is too good that they need to nerf it immediately, HoH is still strong confirmed

[copper shale]

they did buff her back a little bit in the lastest patch, so she a bit better off compared to yesterday, still overall not that much better

so tldr nothing meaningful happened

but yeah now its waiting for live

and then 8.2 beta

[glass nacelle]

5% independent effect is good = 1 synergy skill

[copper shale]

good but overall doesnt change anything

low end absolute dogshit high end still very strong (sss everything)

and if you are in the middle (ss sera + thel + s2) its mid

dk is a skip basically if u dont have ss sera + thel

p1 team with smol ely elf will do better, not sure for other bosses, but def for heph

[final locust]

everyone still need dk

[pulsar sparrow]

exams 😔

[final locust]

if not for hohe for the atk

[short knoll]

new tank tho

[copper shale]

ur better off getting someone r2 weap

[final locust]

no ur not

[abstract night]

Werent u wanting bronya zay over 7t

[final locust]

bc i can fullgear hotr

this one is not bp
a whole valk > a dkey
a dkey > a synergy

everyone should pull hhe dkey esp bc patch is 9 weeks so dont need to worry about kiana bc she runs the whole patch

[abstract night]

Nu uh
Kiana only lasts 6 weeks

[final locust]

well for 6 weeks

thats the duration of normal patch
and dkey only lasts 2 weeks

[abstract night]

i wont comment on this matter dont wanna make it go haywire lol

[final locust]

everyone should pull dk cuz its flat increase for ur scaling on all valks

[short knoll]

dkey > dupe for sure
wont say it'a must

[final locust]

i would cuz everyone else will be pulling it

[short knoll]

but the new dkey is still a nice target

[short knoll]

nah, ppl skipped dkey many times, just wait for free dkey

unless you are nirvana+

[abstract night]

I kinda hope i get thelema from carnival.

[final locust]

kek thelema skipper

[half shard]

still pull , i don't even have p1 ice team to cope without HoH DK

[abstract night]

I pulled horb and her outfit that patch

[final locust]

oh my god

breath i didnt know you were a professional bricker

[abstract night]

Actually i am a bricker
I pulled it back in 7.2

[final locust]

even worse

kind of crazy how shit hhe is with DS

[unique swallow]

Nah

GLB abyss isn't that hard yet

[final locust]

why miss out on 10 free atk

for 60 pulls

[abstract night]

[verbal mountain]

Should've pulled that one schicksal with a billion diff dkeys

[unique swallow]

I only got ToE from that

[final locust]

yeah and go 30k deep without getting one of them

[unique swallow]

Sounds like skill issue

[verbal mountain]

sounds like skill issue

[glass nacelle]

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Songque 2.0

[copper shale]

big songque

[final locust]

why did the team change as soon as they entered

[copper shale]

she sliced wrong team

title is right tho

[unique swallow]

And since sonkbait that must mean elybait

[final locust]

erm ackshully

songque turned out to be very good it just took 6 months 🛐

[abstract night]

For...1 ring ? Right?

[final locust]

also damn

[final locust]

half the best units rn are just beastly in one ring lol

[glass nacelle]

They nerf ice hellmaru hp so much kek

[verbal mountain]

like sparkle

[unique swallow]

My hoh didn't do that much on ult

[verbal mountain]

[copper shale]

it doesn't hide the fact she weak

[final locust]

skill issue

[unique swallow]

Must be whale issue I kept hoh at ss only

[final locust]

i can get ss hoh eventually

ima get s3 from that box

[unique swallow]

Ss1 or bricked

[final locust]

SS or bricked

[unique swallow]

everyone will have ss1

[final locust]

fossils will

[glass nacelle]

V3.999999 : sss or deal 0 dmg

[final locust]

ppl who pulled S0 HoH then got BP twice then bought stamps from BP then bought out supply shop then got the free copy then bought out shop again, sorry but no one did that bc no one was ranking HoH bc she was shit

[verbal mountain]

Everyone just ranked her on release

[copper shale]

if they bought out bp and stamps its like ss2

[final locust]

yea and no one did bc no one cared

[copper shale]

ppl did

[glass nacelle]

I'm sad bcs they nerf her short rotation, she's ice songque now

[final locust]

who was gonna spend 2500 shards on shitlysia stamps when they could get affix box

[fervent hinge]

EU myriad minimum SS2 on release def not lying

[glass nacelle]

[verbal mountain]

Didn't they spam ranged heph at one point

[final locust]

once per patch

for like 2 patches

[verbal mountain]

[copper shale]

can afford both tbf

[final locust]

5500 shards yeah sure

[glass nacelle]

Just 💳

[fervent hinge]

I don't even buy paladin bp and my HoH is SS0 I have no idea how but yeah SS1 will be the competitive standard for myriad if not higher and SS0 minimum for nirv (copium)

[final locust]

what did bro do

[glass nacelle]

*SSS

[verbal mountain]

You assume that glb has enough nirv players to retain and not myriad

[final locust]

i dont even know how thats possible 😭 you must have bought the stamps out of shop

[fervent hinge]

True you need myriad to retain in glb now

[verbal mountain]

Even myriads can get demoted

[fervent hinge]

I definitely didn't buy stamps with stardust shards

[verbal mountain]

😭

[glass nacelle]

8.3 8.4 they add sena thelema stamp

[final locust]

so what did you do 😭

[fervent hinge]

I don't know lol

[copper shale]

same

[final locust]

do u buy knight bp

[fervent hinge]

I shit out 50 frags somehow

Yeah I get knight so thats 10

[verbal mountain]

It's in the bri'ish food

[final locust]

wheres the other 40 coming from

[glass nacelle]

S0 hoh

[fervent hinge]

I may have bought some stamps from bp but usually I'm out collecting other gear

[final locust]

had to buy them from BP or something theres no other way

whats in supply shop next patch again

[fervent hinge]

It might have been whel boxes? Ely stamps were in there for a while but I rarely topup enough to actually get those boxes idk lol

[copper shale]

anyways rank for elysia matter less vs having ss sera so

[verbal mountain]

hh and lv and 2 affix boxes

[glass nacelle]

1680 bchip iirc

[final locust]

ok wait

[glass nacelle]

Or 2k5 ?

[verbal mountain]

surely ss songque isn't that bad compared to ss sera

:clueless:

[copper shale]

a bit doomed

[final locust]

7.3 - 7.8 was hohe pe stamps
hohe pe were in BP
7.8 - 8.1 is hotr hare stamps
hotr hare are in BP
if 8.1 - 8. something does that mean hohe and LV in bp

[plucky cradle]

wao Elynerf again

[fervent hinge]

So glad I pulled SS Sera and ignored que op

[copper shale]

do u have thel too? then u be fine

[glass nacelle]

No initial ari is annoying bro

[fervent hinge]

My thel S2 cuz I like wasting xtals

[final locust]

ss songque has initial ari its just locked behind sena

[verbal mountain]

just run sena in the team

[copper shale]

thats good

[copper shale]

ur chilling

[glass nacelle]

Ew

[plucky cradle]

sena in 2025

[glass nacelle]

Sena in 2025

[fervent hinge]

I'm also pulling +3 on dkey

[final locust]

whale

[copper shale]

[verbal mountain]

HoH in 2025

[fervent hinge]

Nah skipping kiana to afford it

[copper shale]

her dk refinement is big too

[final locust]

what is this brick

[unique swallow]

You're just coping now

[final locust]

its true hohe was irrelevant

[fervent hinge]

It benefits my HoV

[verbal mountain]

when is she not

[final locust]

oh right youre one of those

[glass nacelle]

And ss songque requires resonance tag, elysia doesn't have it

[unique swallow]

True

[fervent hinge]

Wow

[verbal mountain]

Only for ari regen and either way it's only 2-4 ari less than sera at most

[fervent hinge]

So rood

[verbal mountain]

it's mostly just dmg

[glass nacelle]

Cope

[final locust]

ss song is not that much worse i think

[verbal mountain]

[final locust]

but sera does do more demej herself and for team

[copper shale]

anyways i think its rare for even sea to have ss sera in the bracket unless nirv, so maybe u are fine without it

thats more copium for u

[glass nacelle]

They need to adjust songque skill. Lock sena in initial ari

[final locust]

but if youre not a whale its fine for wod

for ws its kinda fucked

should i do a 10x on sera banner for shits and giggles

i have 12 pink cards

and a useless S sera

[plucky cradle]

well at least your que won't be dealing ice damage

[final locust]

i might do it

im gonna do it tehe
but i cant go too far bc then i wont be able to afford 8.1

[verbal mountain]

best case scenario you get ss sera
wcs you lose a 10 pull from spending event assuming you're still going for teri op

[final locust]

oh thats true but i already have enough for the lv outfit and thats all i care abt anyway

i got nothing and all my cards are gone

well not true i got some matz

and some pity for teri asstralop

[glass nacelle]

Get teri is better

[final locust]

im at 38 til on assop

27272 xtal
but 30 til on character
and 55 til on equip

and i have 9 weeks to save in 8.1

and teri asop lasts until week 6 end

and i will have 3 WoD dps

i think im gonna do it

someone please tell me not to

[plucky cradle]

you'll get her in one multi

[final locust]

im at 38 til

and i can guarantee teri asop by week 6 end
but i will have to skip 3.2

[somber egret]

They buff badum kiana

||in ER||

[unique swallow]

[hoary lintel]

I've got 81k in stock but I've no hope in my luck to let me try to get smol dudu and her gear, then get out quickly for the sheer stuff that's in 8.1

[final locust]

you can

it loosely depends

but you probably can - whats your pity on both banners rn

[hoary lintel]

72 till guarantee on her banner
fresh 60 on gear

[final locust]

ehhh

u can probably

yeah you can

but youll have very little left

[hoary lintel]

Yep
Hence the hesitation
On top of the Vita outfit being gacha as well, since it's a rare moment of me feeling so strongly about an alt outfit

[final locust]

well

youd wanna skip dudu then

or hhe dkey

i dont think badum or teri asop are negotiable

[hoary lintel]

Nah, ideally I'd want to nab teri too to have a limited astral op for a change

[final locust]

so now you have to make a choice between hohe dk or dudu

im gonna tell you straight up: if you cant get hohe to SS by 8.1 you want to skip it in favor of dudu

[hoary lintel]

Mine's SS2

[final locust]

oh you probably want it then

[glass nacelle]

v3.99 vs v3.9

[plucky cradle]

o today is update already

[plucky cradle]

elybad

[glass nacelle]

nerf again trust

[plucky cradle]

is server up yet

[unique swallow]

Should be 30 minutes

[plucky cradle]

no early access

[shrewd socket]

did anyone try Kiana as support on LoA?

[glass nacelle]

it's good

[muted mauve]

update is out

[plucky cradle]

yea I'm updating

[glass nacelle]

nerf ely at 10:59 trust

[plucky cradle]

[shrewd socket]

good as just better than hohe or actually good?

[plucky cradle]

ely buff at 10:59:59

[final locust]

well its kinda just good because dudu sparkle and songq are much better

[fierce pendant]

Does that just mean they can update the game or are the servers up as well?

[plucky cradle]

update is available

[shrewd socket]

my brain is now considering trying to get dudu and then just pull Kiana when 8.1 arrives in GLB

[plucky cradle]

servers up in 26 minutes

[fierce pendant]

Ok cool

[shrewd socket]

[final locust]

that doesnt mean dont pull badum

you definitely want badum

over dudu

[fierce pendant]

I’m gonna ask later but I’m considering getting Sparkle

[final locust]

dont

[plucky cradle]

she aint worth it dawg

[final locust]

dont be fooled by her LoA value

thats about as far as her total value goes

shes still not a good valk imo

[nova osprey]

Shes a good valk, shes just not worth backpulling, like almost every other valk

Almost because u could make arguements for vita backpulling

[unique swallow]

No you can't

Vitaslow

[final locust]

slowta

genuinely why did they make her punch have no timestop

[unique swallow]

Because it would be too op

[final locust]

well now thats her main issue and holds her back from being BiS anywhere

[unique swallow]

Just get ss

[nova osprey]

Think thats just how they intended roo valks, very versatile but not bis everywhere unless u pull ranks

[plucky cradle]

vitabad

[unique swallow]

Rice cake

[short knoll]

dont need to worry about anything if you are nirvana bouncing and below

just pull, any valk is about the same

like i pulled sirin and helia wp, were they worth it? no
anything meaningful will change if i didn't pull them? also no

[muted mauve]

Almost in

Shadow rendering takes a long time on my phone

[copper shale]

vita imo still recommended for beginners they have nothing and you gotta start somewhere and her generality helps with that

[short knoll]

nah

new player now can just go dudu kiana, may or may not get dkey then future valk

[copper shale]

idk

[glass nacelle]

let me in

[short knoll]

dudu kiana coralie = 2 team already, can cover a lot for beginner
vita kiana coralie is ...

[muted mauve]

I was wondering why I couldn't enter game on pc. Maintenance not over.

When you do QR code login the Hyperion maintenance notice doesn't show up

Open

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

[brave marsh]

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

carv completed Kiana in one single 10 pull

[muted mauve]

no weapon yet

[naive briar]

dawei card

[muted mauve]

not whale

Finally

[naive briar]

my discount 10 pull

[naive briar]

the difference. carv bean

[muted mauve]

That's character banner not weapon

[glass nacelle]

3 pull

[naive briar]

50 pull no weapon :<

[glass nacelle]

30 pull 3 stig lmao

[mossy escarp]

Why not 90

[glass nacelle]

[mossy escarp]

89+51 kek

[glass nacelle]

3+57 kek

[mossy escarp]

Beaned

[glass nacelle]

done

bye skeen i don't have her

[final locust]

already? damn

[dense juniper]

MY WIFE

[willow perch]

Easy to be quick about making MMD dances when you datamine models

[dense juniper]

Dawg send this to me personally I can’t download stuff here PLEASE 👉👈

[somber egret]

[hasty cedar]

[final locust]

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

no weap yet

shit game as always

[glass nacelle]

they changed bp theme date, it will end after update instead of first monday of patch