#๐Ÿ”ฎcn-gameplay-discussion

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short knoll
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wont be the best, just usable BronyaCopium

ember locust
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At your place

final locust
short knoll
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wdym, i have her full team

final locust
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so why are you doomposting her

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every valk that has had ??? tag has been very good

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why would they change that with a valk that over half the fanbase adores and is obsessed with

tired mountain
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it's interesting that free older valk+dkey is taking the place of sp valks as a cheaper usable valk

final locust
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she was

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helia was only 60 pulls sena was 150

ember locust
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Her gear was not cheaper

ember locust
# final locust wdym

He's on something though, we're not getting A ranks anymore but we're quite a lot of alternatives to keep P1 valks in the meta

short knoll
final locust
ember locust
final locust
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hoo was the cheapest valk in the game and she had a resurgence that makes her very good

tired mountain
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pulling just dkey is cheaper than pulling valk+wep

short knoll
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how about SpA and helia, HoO is special but that is like 2 years later BronyaCopium

final locust
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helia was good

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like what r u on abt

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its just SpA and she was still good until sirin release for all ignite content

short knoll
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dead very fast, ppl regretted pulling for her

shrewd socket
short knoll
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new HoH isn't bad too, but im talking about something else

final locust
final locust
ember locust
short knoll
ember locust
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OwO Last week before finishing MPE

final locust
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you need the dkey anyway its +10 +15 or +20 global atk why not use it lmao

abstract night
short knoll
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to me, HoH is a WoD dps, usable WoD support and probably will be a usable??? support too

shrewd socket
atomic coral
final locust
ember locust
final locust
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alternative ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ember locust
final locust
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sirin is like 5 times better with sparkle

abstract night
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Sparkle could of if she didnt blow it up in the enemies face

ember locust
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Sirin is beyond saving

short knoll
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p2 sirin soon

willow perch
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Hard skip if true

ember locust
glass nacelle
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elysia and kiana debut

copper shale
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kiana ma performance is not good low rank

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v3 nerfs sadge

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on demand tf moved to s2, apply buff by entering into battle changed to combo/qte to activate buff, and all those numbers and ratio nerf

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her ma is quite dead

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tbf v2 wasn't that good either, she still did decent with dudu leader as she a great support

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but now its meh

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still way better than vita tho

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either today or tmr for last minute patches and then its live for cn

shrewd socket
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bro pulled a g4

willow perch
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Hoshi pulled these hands

shrewd socket
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can't see you complaining-

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your fingers STIFF they needed that pull rlly

half shard
neat ferry
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which one should i pull? new elysia weapon or new Kiana?

solar surge
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A new valk (with new gear) is generally more lucrative than new gear alone
however, if you don't have Thelema, but do have one of the other p2 Fire valks, then I'd go for Ely bow

solar surge
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Oof. Haven't heard anything good about Lantern since she got a sweet tooth. p2 Kiana, Sparkle, and now Drummer Kiana... yeah, probably going to want Drumsticks.

neat ferry
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okay!! so pull for the new Kiana? I also have herrscher of finality but i dont have that new p2 weapon for her.

solar surge
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I'd say "yes"
but I'd also say "I am generally corrected by someone smarter so maybe wait for a second opinion"

craggy sentinel
solar surge
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new battlesuit has a weapon
and can, presumably, use any other pair of pistols, so if you have a PRI-Arm already, that's some good cope gear

craggy sentinel
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ok whatHoSHmm

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p2 valks and good cope gear doesnt mix well

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unless im missing out on smt

short knoll
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seen foundry wp in red lotus but you still need to have other things

solar surge
glass nacelle
plucky cradle
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slot machine strat = sleep

glass nacelle
copper shale
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slot machine = best machine

glass nacelle
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*bald machine

plucky cradle
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shit machine

muted mauve
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Kiana Finality Keyboard

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@naive briar (poke)

grand viper
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skill button keycaps in their correct place KianaHeavyThoughts

naive briar
glass nacelle
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event first

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wow hs

muted mauve
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we've known event first since Dev Video

naive briar
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we don't read

junior nova
# muted mauve

I don't even have a keyboard but I'm deffo buying this anyway

ember locust
short knoll
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you only pull her wp no? her wp is 50 pull guaranteed, her stigmata is just a bonus

gleaming imp
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My Sirin weapon was 46/50 ElysiaSob

willow pumice
grand viper
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time capsule my beloved ElyPog

short knoll
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nothing good in there

grand viper
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but its just been so long since the last one

short knoll
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unless they sell overtime

glass nacelle
grand viper
gleaming imp
grand viper
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bruh where's rice cake ? SakuraWTF

gleaming imp
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Omg queens being besties KianaSparkle

gleaming imp
grand viper
glass nacelle
willow pumice
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I didnt find any on cn this time. I guess ppl really did quit

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And the spending event post didnt list out the milestone like previous spending events

short knoll
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eos soon

glass nacelle
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same as 7.3

rustic sinew
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Wyverein outjerking Marisa?

glass nacelle
willow pumice
willow pumice
grand viper
rustic sinew
somber egret
rustic sinew
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Oh damn

willow pumice
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He guessed itโ€™s the same because the price of item is same as 7.3

glass nacelle
feral epoch
gleaming imp
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Other than mobius who would people aim to pull from dorm at this point?

grand viper
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(I don't have her)

gleaming imp
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I already have her SSS TeriStonks

feral epoch
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or locked

winter pumice
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Not having dorm valks at sss in 2025BronieStare

steep axle
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Im missing 7 dorm valks

rain spindle
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will 8.1 finally give non CN players the art book?

tepid light
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Idk which channel should I post it on but probably here

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Week 3
Stellar Shift, my RS works best
Fire with a Quantum Boss, I have a Sparkle DPS team

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Expect me clinching in the Top 3

tepid light
nova osprey
tepid light
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Week 5
Lightning, my favourite. Vita DPS will shine here. But with Stardust boss, Senadina is clearly the better option.
Symphony. Struggling with this Hellmaru, guess still be with Diabolic Kevin.

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Week 6
Starless? Nah cause all of my best teams has Astral Ring.
Type Counter. And with Dominator of Wolves. Oh yeah, bringing Vita to this sounds like the best idea one could bring fourth.

copper shale
supple furnace
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Well they should be or else Higurashiko

nova osprey
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No artbook, have 3 dkeys instead

copper shale
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let it be both

nova osprey
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Let us have xys

copper shale
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yes

nova osprey
copper shale
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rerun fp supply and everyone happy

nova osprey
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Give them in free boxes and everyone happier

copper shale
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true

nova osprey
copper shale
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but last time the options were so limited

nova osprey
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Last one was fhd toe af and utu one?

copper shale
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think so?

nova osprey
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Still missing 2 from that box TeriRip

copper shale
junior nova
rain isle
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Damn

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9 weeks indeed

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Waiting for next chapter after 7-EX is gonna be tough

glass nacelle
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ใ€#ไบฒๆฐ‘ๅฅณ็ฅž็ˆฑ่މๅธŒ้›…็–‘ไผผๅกŒๆˆฟ๏ผŒๆƒณ้ ไธ€ๆŠŠDLCๅฐฑ็ฟป่บซ็š„ๅฏไปฅ้†’้†’ๅ•ฆ-ๅ“”ๅ“ฉๅ“”ๅ“ฉใ€‘ https://b23.tv/6OH81zs

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He didn't use charge atk, maybe multiplier is weak

copper shale
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also this vid was just meant to show score with ss ds

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seems like he optimised it a bit

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but his un optimised run with ss sera was around 830 so

glass nacelle
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Bald

copper shale
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but if you dont charge twice, just auto attacking does more damage

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unless you have a specific reason, then generally u just dont do charge attack

copper shale
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if u didn't get what im saying

inner cloak
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Which Should I pull on. Simp or lantern carnival supply (free pulls only obviously) if I have Sena, helia, Cora, thel, Songque, vita, hofi dkey

ember locust
thick prawn
muted mauve
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so many new post but not loading on phone.

gonna be forced to get on computer

glass nacelle
fierce pendant
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Iโ€™m seeing that the supply calendar is out for 8.1, is 8.1 out or is that going to be on Thursday?

muted mauve
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Thursday

grand viper
nova osprey
terse ravine
copper shale
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they found that if you do one charge atk only, then just going full auto attack is going to do more damage.

if you do both charge atk it out damages the above, but much slower, so its not prefererd

glass nacelle
pale charm
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wait guys is the amount of crystals u get per patch depend on the amount of crystals from stuff lik e elysian realm abyss etc

shrewd socket
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yeah they also give xtals

pale charm
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ohh ok so i got like 4k so far so do i get 4k

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i got 4k from story

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and do crystals from beginner manual count too?

shrewd socket
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yes, tho youll probably clear it this patch

robust crane
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for bita is songque better or teri ao?

glass nacelle
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need SSS to beat sq ig

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15% lightning dmg taken is better than 35% lightning dmg right

muted mauve
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Everything else in the image is gone besides her touching mei's hand AponiaDerpNggt

thick prawn
verbal mountain
glass nacelle
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oh right 15% Dorysia

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waiting for live server

verbal mountain
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so it's 35% lightning dmg and 9%/15% elem taken in ARC and 17%/23% elem taken and 5% tdt in SO for teri teri at ss

willow pumice
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oh theres missing buff?

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oh i see

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k fixed

glass nacelle
tired mountain
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global crystallum look to expire at the end of June, suggesting that 8.2 will also be 9 weeks?

steep axle
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Im going to get hares weapon and use it on smol dudu

ember locust
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Hold on... 8.1 GLB starts on 20 Feb, ends on April 18 or 25... Do you have the precise date bc seeing the supposed date of 8.1 ending, the next patch might be a normal one (5-6 weeks) @tired mountain

tired mountain
willow pumice
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hmm yeah same as cn

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wow we are gonna have reburn 2 huh

ember locust
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What the hell

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Two months long patch again ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€ 7 or 8 weeks

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Bc 8.2 is new BP so new crystallum but also vintage for the current crystallum

ember locust
plain veldt
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8.2 also 9 weeks, are you kidding

nova osprey
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Thats good, more time to save

glass nacelle
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seem they are running out of ideas and need more time

onyx crow
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So what's the shortened version of new Kiana battle suit? badum? Xd

glass nacelle
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main story, main event, rerun event
same as 6 weeks patch

nova osprey
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St

willow pumice
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badum

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badum best team is badum lp sporkle

glass nacelle
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K25

terse ravine
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That means July valk is in v8.3, not v8.4?!!

ember locust
terse ravine
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Ugh, is there confirmation whether the current arc actually ends on ch 7?

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All this time i just assume because next chapter is 7-EX

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WAIT WAIT, in v8.3 it could be chapter 9 P2 unless they release 2 chapters in 1 patch

ember locust
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We might have a big arc Helia vs Helia tbh

feral epoch
supple furnace
glass nacelle
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imagine they release 1h chapter and we need to wait 9 more weeks

terse ravine
ember locust
terse ravine
feral epoch
plain veldt
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this info gives me shivers

supple furnace
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Seem like eos is near

terse ravine
glass nacelle
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eos is real

plain veldt
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We have Leylah and Helia as potential valks

glass nacelle
nova osprey
glass nacelle
feral epoch
naive briar
glass nacelle
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meth in 2025

terse ravine
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Agree with second comment (2)

glass nacelle
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maybe after update, they will adjust date, 8.2 lasts 6 weeks like usual

plain veldt
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Because they make decisions in advance

glass nacelle
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They have also adjusted date in the past.

ember locust
glass nacelle
plain veldt
steep axle
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Will glb enter 8.1 before it ends in cn

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That would be very funny

dense harness
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Cn iz 4 weeks ahead global no? Then it's every patch like that

naive briar
steep axle
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Also will they reveal 8.2 in 3rd week or like 8th week

naive briar
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we entered 8.0 before it ends on cn tomorrow
we are literally on the same patch right now

terse ravine
plain veldt
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I need some miyoushe post about this so I could google translate it and see what chinese think about this thing

steep axle
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Oh god it will be a long 2 months

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Ill probably have exams in middle of 8.1

steep axle
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What the hell i canr edit message

plain veldt
naive briar
plain veldt
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not 9...

terse ravine
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Last year was 8

dense harness
plain veldt
naive briar
# plain veldt 7 weeks usually...

listen the math, it is one update skip for new year long holiday
part 1 patches were 4-5 5-6 weeks long, one update skip is 7-8 weeks
our current part 2 patches are 6 weeks long and new year is 9 weeks

glass nacelle
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cny 2023 : 7
cny 2024 : 8
cny 2025 : 9
cny 2026 : 10 SenadinaStare

gleaming imp
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Even more weeks would be nice

dense harness
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More weeks= more reruns and more savings?

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Longer time consuming events?

muted mauve
feral epoch
plain veldt
muted mauve
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And new year last year was 8 not 9.

supple furnace
muted mauve
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7 -> 6 -> 7 -> 8 -> 9
In that order

naive briar
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nerd

muted mauve
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u

naive briar
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nou

glass nacelle
feral epoch
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both nerd

dense harness
naive briar
glass nacelle
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look they bring back old weird boss

dense harness
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In abyss i'm usually on Rl/Rl/A3 rotation, Rl/Rl/A3/A3 is i was being lazy

glass nacelle
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8.1 should be follow this SenadinaStare

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5 or 6 sd trust

supple furnace
dense harness
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New SD valk mean many SD bosses ElysiaNotLikeThis

feral epoch
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8.1*

glass nacelle
feral epoch
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more mob abyss pls

supple furnace
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last few week will be hell for me tbh

dense harness
glass nacelle
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The first and last time these mobs appeared

supple furnace
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I can already see they bring back susannah boss or shit HimekoDead

muted mauve
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I don't care about patch length as long as there's enough content to justify it.
So please let there be atleast 1 event left to be revealed..

ember locust
ember locust
naive briar
ember locust
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The subjects ๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿซ 

naive briar
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btw do not try
it happens every year on cn, and it leads to massive bans

ember locust
naive briar
ember locust
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I'm getting away of this kind of sh*t

naive briar
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I mean those are the biggest reactions to long or holiday patches
Give free S rank, make new outfits, chat with no mod

robust crane
steep axle
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Who do you guys think 8.2 valk will be

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I was thinking abt helia (is that her name) but looking at pattern i dont think she has a 3d model yet

glass nacelle
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should be p1 cast

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from event or sth

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don't think ex chapter will focus on helia

steep axle
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Oh yeah theres a ex chapter

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Guess ill wait for that

gleaming imp
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If itโ€™s a p1 valk thatโ€™ll be a total of 5 p1 valks a collab valk since the last p2 cast valk I thought this was supposed to be about p2 not p1 SenadinaStare LanternLollipop

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P1 on top real? SenadinaStare LanternLollipop

glass nacelle
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p1 bad

steep axle
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Who do we have for p2 tho

gleaming imp
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Ajita, sera, DS sister

steep axle
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I didnt read story tbh

gleaming imp
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Leylah

steep axle
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Maybe they add a new character

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Wait ds has a sister?

feral epoch
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7 shoes to 10 shoes

gleaming imp
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Thereโ€™s also new helia though seeing how A rank helia turned out to be helibad then s rank will also be helibad SenadinaStare LanternLollipop

glass nacelle
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sera is sus after ch7

steep axle
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New helia doesnt have a 3d model duh

feral epoch
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and

steep axle
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Maybe after a new story

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Dudu had a 3d model for story kiana had one for cutscene thing

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They totally could make a valk from 2d

feral epoch
muted mauve
thick prawn
rain isle
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This is adorable VodkaHug

ember locust
ember locust
# steep axle Who do we have for p2 tho

Ajita, Sera, Leylah, Senadina Cocoon, Chenxue left. Already covered : Lantern, Coralie, Helia, Senadina (Mars sim), Thelema, Songque (JDS), Sparkle. P1 covered : Vita, Theresa, Durandal, Kiana

ember locust
shrewd socket
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flash animation be like

ember locust
short knoll
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let them cook more, not a fan of the other helia

gleaming imp
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Real, helibad will always be helibad SenadinaStare LanternLollipop

steady granite
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didn't see any twitter post about it

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wonder where they got it from

naive briar
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is what real

steady granite
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the link doesn't work? here

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don't recognize that UI

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is that hoyolab

naive briar
fervent hinge
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Why does anyone call her badum

tepid light
steady granite
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sounds weird but it is kiana, so I can let it pass

naive briar
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sounds weird but it is HI3

short knoll
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call her FWS

fervent hinge
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I feel like FWS is an acronym I already use for something else but I can't put my finger on it

naive briar
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Don't Coralie me ElysiaNotLikeThis

short knoll
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probably misrememberring it with TSW or something similar

copper shale
terse ravine
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Hewo, is there v3c beta? TeriRead

copper shale
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nothing changed yet or rather no info

short knoll
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8.1 bad skip

long forum
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Every patch bad skip this game

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Play ggz instead

terse ravine
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Oki thank you

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||more time saving for Mech Helia yes||

short knoll
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not happening

naive briar
long forum
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I'm not FuHuaRip_nopies

naive briar
long forum
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When glb server shut down i was just like damn. Sucks for me.

copper shale
naive briar
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I play on all current servers ThelemaPout

copper shale
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hmmmge nyes

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let me play sea

naive briar
short knoll
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feel like the new helia wont be playable since she didnt give good impression for the player, see ppl talk about how shocked they were when helia shoot her teammate RozaThink

smoky burrow
short knoll
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doesnt feel like they will give her redemption arc

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unlike other honkai vilian

smoky burrow
gleaming imp
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Vita is so CeciliaHappy ๐Ÿ›

final locust
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is 8.1 out for cn

solar surge
verbal mountain
solar surge
short knoll
smoky burrow
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keep her ded

gleaming imp
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New coralie alongside new helia and new coralie is bis support for new helia since besties KianaSparkle

feral epoch
short knoll
verbal mountain
glass nacelle
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2 S rank trust

gleaming imp
glass nacelle
short knoll
verbal mountain
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that's EVIL

gleaming imp
glass nacelle
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nice trio

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today is the last day of beta

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v3.999 when

gleaming imp
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Ely buffs please TeriDorime TeriPray

short knoll
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now that i think about it, sena goddess is more likely an AO

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anti entropy valk

glass nacelle
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I don't see many people using hohe charge atk during SO

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NA seems more effective

final locust
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how is ely support mid/bad? because im reading her buffs and theyre super good and she has a very fast stellar drain. is it just that thelema and sena have much better buffs for WoD and that overshadows ely?

somber egret
naive briar
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Goodbye cabbage

copper shale
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but thelema offers a ton of utility

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sena just way better dmg

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the only thing ely has is fast stellar drain then nothing

final locust
final locust
copper shale
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its worse

final locust
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LoA is good tho

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and new ring should be good too hopefully

copper shale
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no u dont run loa support unless symphony or something

final locust
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u can

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for those who were based and skipped sparkflop

copper shale
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u can but better options exist

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i think even if u skipped sparkle, it should be dudu songque

final locust
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i was based and skipped dudu too

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but kiana is looking like she'll use vita songque

copper shale
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ah well ig no options then

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well vita is weirdge

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single boss vita 100% wont work, and u do go ely

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cuz u have nothing else

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mobs maybe go vita

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so she can at least ult at the very start

final locust
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u can skip the breach

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in some certain scenarios
its not always needed

copper shale
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then u just throw her away

final locust
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she has good buffs

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outside of just breach

copper shale
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her buff comes from ult no? u dont get anything if u dont ult

final locust
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and i also remember on raven she was weird and was able to ult without punching on first rot

final locust
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and some ele taken%

final locust
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oh ye

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see u can just do that for bosses with a start up

copper shale
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cuz im reading her skills and literally her buffs only come ult

final locust
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stig buffs wp buffs

somber egret
final locust
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kit buffs

copper shale
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because other valks also gives buffs

solar surge
final locust
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becuz u can just use WA on boss startup and then ult and do full sequence without punch for free ult

copper shale
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for certain bosses and esp not for ma

final locust
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who cares about MA

somber egret
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Real

copper shale
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and so if u dont get the ult off, my point was, u just dont use vita

final locust
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why wouldnt u tho

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what makes the difference when its raven vs not raven
you can still do the same sequence that you can do in raven no? does raven give special startup sp or smth

copper shale
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well certain boss u just dont get to weap early

final locust
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almost all boss have a windup

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ding ding ding warning is like the perfect amount of time

copper shale
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and also vita qte is just god awful

final locust
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eh it does some decent dmg

copper shale
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no dmg

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its not worht the dmg for the time it takes

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theres also no tf

final locust
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who cares about tf

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thats MA stuff nobody does MA

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everyone just lite and move on

somber egret
copper shale
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its not worth the dmg even in abyss

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becuz of the weather or the type

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u dont get my point

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her dmg is just bad

final locust
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vita is fine

copper shale
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w/e u cope bro

final locust
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and will

somber egret
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Vita Finest graseoboom

short knoll
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depend on your tier, everything is fine for nirvana bouncing Dorysia

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see dudu doing well with hofi too

copper shale
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i mean i would say, ig, maybe, theres was a huge point gap for dudu weathers with having sparkle or not, and the best alternative was hofi

copper shale
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but once u go nirv then its just doomed

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and even in rl, if ur bracket sweaty then having hofi only maybe gets u retained

short knoll
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very small for red lotus Dorysia

copper shale
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idk i had like 6 900s in my bracket

#

if its slacc na then they prob promote either way

glass nacelle
#

Someone calculated the points for characters who reach max score in abyss (+1 point when dps, +0.5 when support) Dorysia

short knoll
#

20 pts gap for top 10 is extremely rare even in SEA, dont think i've ever seen that HeliaStopIt

glass nacelle
#

vita debut:

somber egret
#

Teri Spork ded teriderp Teri ded'er

copper shale
#

but my point is just that vita is just not preferred in general for loa

unique swallow
hasty cedar
solar surge
#

Double-Seeker team? EntropySweat

hasty cedar
#

newton's third law

#

entropy and anti-entropy TeriPoint

solar surge
#

we've had anti-entropy for ages WeltHmph TeslaThink EinsteinSip BronieStare

hasty cedar
#

too bad welt got thrown into another universe

#

ae is dropping like flies

muted mauve
willow perch
#

smhmyhead

spice summit
#

Man why did I choose SEA server ElysiaNotLikeThis ElysiaNotLikeThis

unique swallow
#

Whatโ€™s wrong with sea

spice summit
#

It's too competitive for my casual and skill issue playstyle

short knoll
craggy sentinel
#

sea rl is also whatever too but it can be abit too much ig

grand viper
grand viper
craggy sentinel
grand viper
#

what is after snes ?

#

will you go back to cheese ?

craggy sentinel
#

chesDorysia

#

nothing special after cny for me

grand viper
solar surge
grand viper
#

snes should rename to n64 after lunar new year fr

glass nacelle
#

1 week left until lny

naive briar
slate elm
#

hey can someone explain to me why HoHE dps is going to highly desire thele? Is it just because all the matchups highly favor Thele's freeze and evade farm utilities or is there a more HoHE kit related reason?

gleaming imp
slate elm
#

but that's only for fights like heph and kalpas right?

#

i don't remember if hohe herself has an effect that needs the enemies to be frozen like pardo

gleaming imp
#

I donโ€™t think so AponiaDerpNggt thelema probably also stands out due to her time freeze and ar farming

still condor
#

thel also has shieldbreak for shit like keksumi

slate elm
#

ok i see then

still condor
#

idk how much it actually does if anything, but HoH also has
'Enemy receives an extra 100 ร— ATK of DMG (HP loss effect) on being frozen. This effect immediately applies to frozen enemies once when Stars of the Past is created.'

glass nacelle
copper shale
#

well she has a lot more silimarities iwth jds than u think

#

more like v1 songque so far

still condor
#

songque is also ice without the crit boosters LanternHeavyThoughts

copper shale
#

its far better to use the two shadows asap only auto attacking and then closing ring asap.
this was the case for songque v1, where its much better to not do charge atks, if ur not doing all 3, and auto all the way
both do more dmg in the cycle trading time and speed for doing all the charge atks, for songque thats 3 charges, and for ely thats 2
both basically do no dmg outside of ring, (you average the time it takes for songque to get 6 dots and then charge atk)

#

and both do extra dmg based on ur sp when ulting

#

for ely dont look at the 1300% and be like so broken

#

because ur not hitting that 200 sp ever (maybe er lmao)

#

weapon refinement for ely is somewhat noticeable tho, with extra 20 sp at r3

#

but either way it only results in point diff thats only matters to cn myriads

flint badger
somber egret
#

eLy

copper shale
#

her only L so far is that need ss sera + thel

#

otherwise aside from her dominance in her own weather, she takes some of lantern

#

but yeah, backpulling sera is kinda bad

#

perhaps backpulling thel is too, but she just very useful everywhere if she can be used

#

ma always has a slot for her for ss bosses

#

even this week sk, s0 thel also easy 0s

glass nacelle
#

v3.9999 when

plucky cradle
#

elybad

copper shale
plucky cradle
#

v3d 1 hour before update Elybad finisher dmg buffed to 1000000%

copper shale
#

i want kiana buffs more than ely xd

glass nacelle
plucky cradle
#

doesn't Kiana alrd deal big dmg

copper shale
#

she got nerfed

plucky cradle
#

her combos just take so much time

copper shale
#

she's okay

#

better than vita

plucky cradle
#

true

slate elm
#

the main reason why i was asking because i was trying to assess how worthwhile it'll be to pick up hohe dkey for newer players who got the free hohe and not much else

#

i'm still on the fence. While certainly at a top level, missing out all that coverage without thele is significant (unless they get lucky on raffle/carnival)

#

i think there's still some merit in terms of just decent coverage

#

can prob still cope against shadow star tank, or symphony hellmaru (vita or sena, and cora)

#

and otherwise is still an LoA or next new ring type support

#

at the cost of only 60 rolls

flint badger
#

I think being able to quickly consume 2 charges of stellar drain in wod/loa teams could be useful but dunno how good hohe p2 buffs are compared to others

slate elm
#

i'm still waiting for live and en beta at the end of the day for numbers yeah

#

tags are nice on paper but it's meaningless if even being on tag is still a significant drop from other similar options

flint badger
#

true

slate elm
#

i should also say for any lurkers reading this, my thoughts here don't reflect what's going to be in pins in beginner help for now so don't make any conclusions yet

#

i'm still in the dark about alot of things

flint badger
#

ig if you're new with free hohe it's still pretty cost effective to just go for the dk

terse ravine
#

I start to think of backpulling Thel just for HoHe dps now ElysiaNotLikeThis

flint badger
#

since getting 3 p2 valks would take a while even with the one time crystal sources

slate elm
#

and it's a dkey too

#

but yeah idk. If all use cases are greatly subpar to the point of not retaining RL then why bother dropping 60 rolls for it

mild owl
slate elm
#

you're reading wrong then

still condor
#

its cringe that they added more atk to dkey dupes HimekoDead

slate elm
mild owl
#

yeah im not serious

#

honestly though dkeys are pretty huge, idk how many pulls i would say they're worth but when you're also getting a valk, even a bad one for the price of a gear banner it's pretty appealing

slate elm
#

even 10 rolls from firepower i find debatable sometimes

still condor
#

with enough crystals they can just pull kiana, ely dkey, vita, and kiana dkey and build like 2 or 3 teams LanternHeavyThoughts

mild owl
#

true, should just pull all banners

slate elm
terse ravine
#

Atp i see DKeys are long investments than keeping a valk relevant.
There is always chance DKeys could make someone mighty OP like HoFi or HoT but would not expect a thing.

That being said I'm quite disappointed at how they bring Ely DKey, because i'm so spoiled by HoFi's DKey convenience ๐Ÿ˜ญ

slate elm
#

somehow hohe might be getting the short end of the herrscher stick both times lol

still condor
#

tbh
does firepower even exist still

flint badger
#

hofi dk being able to apply all buffs with weap then switch out was pretty big

slate elm
#

yeah fp might be dead now

slate elm
#

at any rate we'll still have to wait and see how hohe contributes to the new ring type at least

still condor
#

weve already done CN anni, and now CNY doesnt have one either

flint badger
#

probably not happening anymore :(

terse ravine
#

HoHe debuted 4 versions before HoFi

still condor
#

maybe they felt the MC bait was more important to bring old players back and prioritized it over ely CoralieLooking

terse ravine
slate elm
#

hoyo doesn't always abide by patterns

flint badger
#

tbf a lot were already waiting for vita

#

and there's also people who were just waiting for sparkle

#

ig they didn't want to put hofi dk together with new kiana battlesuit

still condor
#

they should stop making dkeys so i dont need to pretend im not losing 10-20 atk per dkey LanternHeavyThoughts

terse ravine
#

No, pls add more KianaHungry

#

I need to see my HoO reaching 1700 ATK KianaDrool

flint badger
#

why is hoo attack so high lmao

#

I get the ranks are easy to get for her but still seems a bit high

terse ravine
#

Do you have SSS valks to compare

#

I think her base weap and Raiden Mei stigs' attacks are high, but never sure

unique swallow
#

Someone told me HoO atk on ranks scales harder from s-ss and scales less from ss-sss

#

Can't remember who

flint badger
#

most I have for comparison is ss hotr who's literally only 1 patch earlier

unique swallow
#

Might've been sairaan

flint badger
#

same rank, hotr has:

  • 18.9, 22.1, 21.9 atk (62.9 atk from stigs)
unique swallow
#

Why does your HTR have any atk affixes

flint badger
#

hoo has:

  • 21.5, 23, 18.4, 22.9, 23, 23 atk (131.8 atk from stigs)
unique swallow
#

Max atk affix HTR would be at 1540 which isn't that far off

flint badger
somber egret
flint badger
#

ok yea hoo has 13 more atk than hotr

flint badger
#

not as much as I thought ig

slate elm
terse ravine
terse ravine
#

P1 meta again

still condor
#

when is senti getting a p2 dkey

slate elm
#

i've been silently wondering if p1 teams would eventually consist of two p2 valks and if astral ring off would become more of a thing

flint badger
#

seele first pls

still condor
slate elm
#

or maybe they can release a new valk that has no astral ring

#

oh yeah i guess that exists now lmao

still condor
#

nah they wouldnt do that, dead on arrival

terse ravine
#

5x23 ATK+22.7 ATK+6 ATK from Nirvana emblem, so 2 more Syn3 DKeys to collect LanternLollipop
Edit: if i can retain my Nirvana emblems for so long ๐Ÿ˜ญ

slate elm
#

hoyo shill will find a way if they will so

still condor
#

HoO HoFi eepy is also kinda technically 2 p2 valks

somber egret
slate elm
#

dang ok fine i'll say my more stupid idea

#

astral ring inverse

terse ravine
still condor
somber egret
unique swallow
grand viper
still condor
flint badger
#

give us ult version of moon ring as next astral ring type pls TeriPray

still condor
#

new astral ring that just lets you use the ER playstyles instead of the normal playstyles

grand viper
terse ravine
short knoll
grand viper
still condor
grand viper
#

VKE ult

flint badger
still condor
#

luna does a lot of dmg wdym

flint badger
#

wasn't she high hit count low multiplier

still condor
#

yeah but its still high dmg

terse ravine
#

And bleed dmg

still condor
#

high dps is the opposite of low dps

grand viper
flint badger
#

ER version it just clears 2 floors at the same time

short knoll
#

sirin tier

grand viper
still condor
#

also make it a very popular character so everyone pulls anyways and if you dont youre just not allowed to compete CoralieLooking

short knoll
#

just compete with WC Dorysia

hasty cedar
#

what a mf does without LV or VQ

solar surge
grand viper
#

(delete bleed ThelemaMad )

terse ravine
#

noooo

onyx crow
#

Any news on the artbook

nova osprey
steep axle
short knoll
#

we will get 2 artbook next year

onyx crow
onyx crow
copper shale
#

we wont get news about artbook from cn

#

cuz they decide to run it differently

steep axle
#

They shouldnt let me use vita

#

Ice boss who

grand viper
steep axle
#

Why are we getting 2 artbook next year

#

Are they giving 1 and 2 again

grand viper
#

I think hsien was joking

steep axle
#

I could use a 1st book im missing it

grand viper
steep axle
#

Too expensive

#

Also shipping costs too high

short knoll
#

no book this year but we will get 2 next year trust

glass nacelle
#

Nice cope

#

Glblul

grand viper
clear vigil
craggy sentinel
grand viper
craggy sentinel
grand viper
craggy sentinel
#

im just rich in time

willow pumice
#

Time Capsule

shrewd socket
#

no 30k asterite outfit? KianaBeg

glass nacelle
craggy sentinel
#

ahmagash ches valk

shrewd socket
glass nacelle
shrewd socket
short knoll
#

easy anyway

copper shale
#

bow drive core javelin

#

and also that thelema qua teri weap type

#

idk name

short knoll
#

chainblade

nova osprey
#

So, do we get v3.9

short knoll
#

eos

glass nacelle
#

V3.9 during maintenance trust

somber egret
# shrewd socket which weapons

Characters who use a Bow, Drive Core, Javelin, Pistols or Chained Blades gain 40.0% bonus Physical Breach and 20.0% bonus Elemental Breach.

shrewd socket
naive briar
#

character who uses a crystal

somber egret
feral epoch
#

v3.9 more eLy nerf?

glass nacelle
#

real

glass nacelle
craggy sentinel
#

mid more like goojDorysia

#

iโ€™ll protecc her until im bored of her ult animation

glass nacelle
#

nice patch note

#

35% -> 25% now

#

@willow pumice can u check beta Dorysia

nova osprey
#

More nerfs?

feral epoch
glass nacelle
#

btw they really want to sell vita

feral epoch
#

vita bait, can't support ??? ring

glass nacelle
#

Lately they often add effects like "When character enters ele breach,...."

dry delta
feral epoch
dry delta
#

aside from I wonder if they'll make p2 f2p friendlier or not

glass nacelle
dry delta
#

this game sucs

glass nacelle
#

๐Ÿ’ณ

plucky cradle
#

pyramid in 2025

dry delta
glass nacelle
plucky cradle
#

Elybad becoming Elybuff 1 hour before update in v3.99999

short knoll
feral epoch
#

eLygood on ??? trust

plucky cradle
#

Elybad in 2025

#

give the dkey to Bronya

glass nacelle
#

SoE

plucky cradle
#

another one

short knoll
#

each character can only get buffed once Dorysia

mossy escarp
#

Delete dkey ez

plucky cradle
#

delete p1 ez

glass nacelle
#

real

mossy escarp
#

Or ewlysia simps will bury mhy alive

feral epoch
#

delete ely ez

plucky cradle
#

delete hi3 ez

mild owl
glass nacelle
#

delete your life ez

plucky cradle
mossy escarp
#

Den have none

plucky cradle
#

delete kurowhel

glass nacelle
plucky cradle
short knoll
mild owl
mossy escarp
#

Ded

plucky cradle
short knoll
#

new ely good enough Dorysia

plucky cradle
#

v3.9999 Elybad nerfed to oblivion barely dealing more damage than p1

short knoll
#

good, new p1 ice support will make p1 ely great again

plucky cradle
#

new p1 in 2025

glass nacelle
#

delete wod pls

short knoll
plucky cradle
#

das p2 unit

feral epoch
#

delete wod = delete Thelema

plucky cradle
#

delete astral ring

#

return to mald

nova osprey
#

Make clock boi gameplay with wod, the shadow star attack can be parried to get huge dmg boost SenadinaStare

smoky hemlock
#

new ring wil have bio phys valk with doodoo as best support so new ring can take senti boss because p1 = part bad

#

TrustLanternLollipop no copium inhaled

plucky cradle
#

p2 bio skull_rotate

short knoll
glass nacelle
#

wow they revive SW

plucky cradle
short knoll
#

make p1 ely great again ofc

plucky cradle
#

Kira powercreep real

short knoll
#

to replace kira, she need to have freeze, possibly thel powercreep LanternLollipop

glass nacelle
short knoll
#

next 2 year LanternLollipop

#

still waiting for luna fov dkey

glass nacelle
glass nacelle
plucky cradle
#

saule dkey when

short knoll
#

luna will be the p2 bleed trust

plucky cradle
#

luna in 2025

grand viper
short knoll
#

wife in 2030 Dorysia

pallid cosmos
#

nah ded in 2029

short knoll
#

ded in 2025

mossy escarp
#

2025 eos real

#

5 patches in a year

dry delta
#

are we in v3

nova osprey
#

3.9

dry delta
#

oh my lawd i need to check marisa

glass nacelle
#

he is checking beta stuff

dry delta
#

did elysia get buff in v3

#

cuz marisa website only has v22

#

wait she got NERFED??

willow perch
#

LOL

dry delta
#

oh my lord she is a horrible support ElysiaSob ??

nova osprey
willow perch
naive briar
#

Vita buff

nova osprey
copper shale
#

she was never meant to be support

dry delta
#

kill me ElysiaSob

willow perch
naive briar
#

no self harm please

naive briar
#

go eat cabbage

dry delta
#

ew

naive briar
#

don't ew me SakuraBully

dry delta
#

lEaVeS oOOoO

verbal mountain
#

v3.9999 out?

willow perch
dry delta
#

u r murderer

verbal mountain
#

did kiana get nerfed

copper shale
#

i just did a quick biilibili search and apparently big nerfs to ely,
but anyways theres prob another 3.999999999 tmr

dry delta
#

how could u kil the poorcabbages it had a famiiyly

naive briar
#

I mean patch update is in like less than 12 hours

glass nacelle
feral epoch
glass nacelle
#

nice patch note

verbal mountain
dry delta
verbal mountain
#

idc about ely in fact I hope she gets nerfed

feral epoch
verbal mountain
#

s2 hoh in a ss+ hoh society is pain

willow perch
#

eLy dkey just lookin more and more skippable BronieStare

glass nacelle
#

patch note only shows "A is adjusted"

dry delta
glass nacelle
dry delta
#

hEArtLESS

willow perch
#

Im gonna send you into the orbit of a supermassive blackhole

glass nacelle
naive briar
#

If I can only pull one Kiana or pope Teri or rainbow key

#

I don't have that official emote but people are calling the new key gay beam SakuraWTF
that one emote with Elysia and water gun

terse ravine
#

........ new patch and Ely got nerfed again?

naive briar
#

slight adjustment

grand viper
copper shale
verbal mountain
#

wasn't her support already kinda mid?

copper shale
#

yes

verbal mountain
#

wow

copper shale
#

more of a reason to not bring ely

#

other than tank + maybe symphony

verbal mountain
#

time to skip ely key

copper shale
#

+10 so im not skipping

verbal mountain
#

yea fair i'm probably not actually skipping either

#

but may or may not prio vita outfit first

copper shale
terse ravine
#

aaahh

robust sail
# glass nacelle

i've been waiting so long for stellar promise and its still not here AichanCry

final locust
verbal mountain
#

i'm being fr

final locust
#

๐Ÿ˜ 

final locust
naive briar
#

AI chan never say nerf jusy downwards adjustment SakuraHuehue

sinful crown
#

that's so stupid PaimonSLEEP why hoyo

final locust
#

i translated the pics they sent and its no actual % nerfs its just "minor adjusments" and some seemed like they could turn out to be buffs

abstract night
sinful crown
#

free aponia when

final locust
#

i just wanna know if ovt is in capsule yet

final locust
abstract night
#

OMG YEAY3SYESYEYS I GET IT I CAN

final locust
#

for WoD and LoA

abstract night
#

. If i can get the 100 tickets during time capsule.

verbal mountain
#

that's called being mid comparatively