🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[gleaming imp]

Context?

[verbal mountain]

this game is too whel

[gleaming imp]

Oh, I’ll just wait for SSS vita

[abstract night]

8.1 Kiana is not nostolgic

[gleaming imp]

Yes she is, it shows her growth

[abstract night]

What growth

Shes sleeping isnt she..?

Nostolgia is a longing for the past.

[gleaming imp]

As a character compare side by side to hofin

[abstract night]

HoFi was 2023.

Its barley 2025

[gleaming imp]

Yes, because it’s Kiana which equals nostalgia

[abstract night]

I feel no nostolgia for hofi

Ill feel old when she goes to dorm, but i wont feel nostolgic

[gleaming imp]

You don’t feel nostalgia seeing her growth from playing the game? Remember when you first saw her and how she grew into the person she is today through her journey?

[abstract night]

If I started playing in 1.8, sure maybe a little bit, but not enough to warrant - a fat amount of nostolgia

[gleaming imp]

But she’s the protagonist of p1 the one you’ve spend the most time playing the game with

[abstract night]

Actually mei or hua was. The skip button does exist

[gleaming imp]

[edgy drift]

Early Kiana was the most insufferable thing ever

[abstract night]

MEI SENPAI- iTS ONLY BEEN 11 MINUTES AND 54 SECONDS SINCE I LAST SAW U

I do acknowledge she has grown but i dont feel nostolgic.

[edgy drift]

UwU

[rain isle]

[gleaming imp]

Hey, I like seeing girls be besties

[willow perch]

[abstract night]

I

[atomic coral]

"just gal pals" historians say

[gleaming imp]

Just girls being girls, besties, roommates, just friends

[shrewd socket]

they're irreplaceable

[main goblet]

is v3 out or is it tomorrow?

or another time?

[smoky lintel]

Tomorrow

[north karma]

V3 memes will be reality in some hours

[junior nova]

Cant wait to see the 8.1 bp frame

[stable pewter]

I wonder what changes will be made

I mean I personally think Elysia and Kiana are pretty balanced dps wise

Not sure about as supports as I haven’t seen much

[short knoll]

balance mean bad

[gleaming imp]

I think ely should be buffed to not need thelema

[abstract night]

Why

[plucky cradle]

Ely should be buffed to not need Dry

[verbal mountain]

because he doesn't have thel

[abstract night]

Hes pulling teri wep and hofi adv..

And hoh dkey

[verbal mountain]

Never question drya's pulling decisions

[abstract night]

I am

[north karma]

^

[gleaming imp]

I wouldn't have enough for thelema since no funds

[abstract night]

Ur not pulling kiana ur picking old kiana who will be in dorm a few patches over new kiana

Ur nostolgic over kiana

Yet ur pulling the not as grown (mentally?) one

Smh

[gleaming imp]

Well you see I wait for new Kiana adv

[gleaming imp]

She won’t be in dorm for a long while

[abstract night]

Yet rn, you would have two of kianas supports and be able to use her a lot more than u would if u pull her

Tis kiana
U simp for kiana
U get to use ur s2 vita and ss2? hoh and a kiana on top
All ur favorite waifus in one team

[gleaming imp]

But s0 not shiny, two S is shiny, one S is not shiny , also I can use senawho and vita with my ely

[abstract night]

But

Kiana would have better supports by the time you get her, and vita HoH could be a lot worse than what it is

[gleaming imp]

By the time she gets a adv my vita will be SS2/SSS

[gleaming imp]

In theory a SS Kiana SS2/SSS vita SS2 ely performance should be about the same or better as S0 Kiana s0 vita SS ely performance taking into account dist increase

[abstract night]

Then ranks are irrelevant

[gleaming imp]

Ranks do matter it’s just my timing of getting valk and ranks that’s different compared to others who rank on release

[oak yarrow]

lol what

u say that like adv chars get any weathers

ur gonna get bullied hard

ur gonna find a ds with less ranks that outscores u

[gleaming imp]

Don’t they get shilled on advs? I remember mobius shill on adv, HoH shill on adv, Luna shill on adv,

Horb adv had shill too iirc, hare adv had shill

[gleaming imp]

This won’t ever happen again, my hofin will be SS2 and I’ll have 4S kiaelf

And possibly s2 hotruth

Oh yeah Awa I have a question in your honest opinion will my ely with dk really be bricked without thelema?

Will it be ely over?

[oak yarrow]

hohe shill - 1 boss which is ranged heph
luna shill - 1 boss at the very end of the patch
hare shill - she had dominance that pretty much tied with thelema
horb shill - 0 bosses, u have pishacha that does fine with hos and stun which doesnt need ranks since theres a ton of space to farm sp

u cant call that shill

might as well call it dead

[oak yarrow]

no clue but i know that hohe doesnt freeze so gl on heph

[gleaming imp]

mobius had andrius run on her advs and she had 3 of them

[oak yarrow]

1 boss for adv is what we call dead

[gleaming imp]

[oak yarrow]

not to mention the fact that they wont have a single boss for the next 3 patches

[gleaming imp]

Starless

If starless SK fu hua can rerun then so can the others

[abstract night]

Uhm ackshaully. She has rime trauma during her ult

[abstract night]

MPE

[oak yarrow]

ok go freeze heph with ult

[abstract night]

Only horb with ranks can outscore

[oak yarrow]

ss minimum*

[gleaming imp]

And also starless got buffed to be more anti p2 which means p1 on top with starless without p2 taking over

[abstract night]

Mpe is pt1

[oak yarrow]

keep dreaming

[gleaming imp]

[feral epoch]

where new starless weather in beta

[gleaming imp]

8.2

Surely starless weathers will still be made

[oak yarrow]

starless is dead

[gleaming imp]

But I need my p1 shill

[oak yarrow]

stop pulling advs

[gleaming imp]

[oak yarrow]

if all u do is pull adv ur gonna have the situation where u cant even beat someone with lower ranks and ds

[gleaming imp]

That will never happen once it’s 8.1 my kiaelf will be 4S

My trio will improve so that it won’t happen again

I don’t have skill issue

[fervent hinge]

You will have dmg issue even with SSS P1 valks just wait for abyss to go up 100 more D

[abstract night]

You'd be gone by then wouldnt u?

(Unless HoV²)

[fervent hinge]

Yeah

[abstract night]

With HoV aerial mechanics not sena aerial mechanics*

[fervent hinge]

If I'm still playing by then it'll be casually in RL

Maybe A3

[abstract night]

Real

[junior nova]

You're literally just like me for real

Playing for the characters instead of meta

[gleaming imp]

I’m like 95% character and 5% meta

[abstract night]

U pull adv's...and were planning on waiting for vita adv till u get her
I wouldnt say meta

U had truoo

[gleaming imp]

SS vita good

[still condor]

and 100% bad choices

[gleaming imp]

It’s not 100% bad choices examples, I pulled for 4/4 hotruth and HoO, I got s2 hofin from adv, I got ely from adv, I got mobius from adv and I got s2 vita

[abstract night]

Okay. Okay. Bad but lucky asf hofi dkey happend. Same thing as hofi (especially since u had 1/4 jk and 0/4 kira), awful,

[still condor]

mobius is kek
pulling ranks when you dont even have any other p2 valks to use vita with is kek
ely is 1000% kek, no kira no JK and not even thelema for dkey

[gleaming imp]

I didn’t want S2 vita it just happened, I got vita and dupe in same multi

[abstract night]

He got s2 vita in the same 10

[abstract night]

Oh wait

They have sena

Sena Vita Helia

[gleaming imp]

Who?

Also hofin or coralie > helia

[still condor]

sena in 2025

[gleaming imp]

Helibad

[abstract night]

Oops forgot about hofi

Sena Vita Hofi*

[still condor]

so he has 3 lightning dps and 1 fire and nothing else

[gleaming imp]

Lighting on top

[abstract night]

Ehe. I get a fire dps and ice dps next petch and i own teri and sena... and vita but no hofi so its cope

[glass nacelle]

ded

[hasty cedar]

what does your profile say

[still condor]

wdym

[hasty cedar]

the oppossum

[still condor]

the only drip i have is coming from my eyes

[hasty cedar]

ohh

🤝

[north karma]

Simply get her on rerun

[north karma]

Meant to reply here kek

With some luck 12k~ is all you need

[gleaming imp]

I already have hofin

[gleaming imp]

Why is event with senawho outfit not fully voiced

Unplayable without being voiced

[willow pumice]

Play CN

[gleaming imp]

Let me double check that

[feral epoch]

they never did fully voiced events

[gleaming imp]

Closed and reopened game and check VO and it’s CN but no voice over still

[feral epoch]

always part of it

the beginning and the end

[glass nacelle]

[feral epoch]

and some important parts

[somber egret]

⬆️

[gleaming imp]

But they have the budget to have it voiced

[somber egret]

Only scenes with CGs are voiced

Sushang Event is fully voiced, I think

[gleaming imp]

They picked sushang to get full voiced event privileges?

[glass nacelle]

In the past, main story didn't have voice on overseas servers

[feral epoch]

ig maybe they only did it for 2019 event series in the archive/phone

and cn only

[glass nacelle]

cnonly glblul

[gleaming imp]

Kiana Mei interaction in event not voiced

[gleaming imp]

@abstract night guess what I did the calcs and If I do s0 new kiana and weapon assuming hard pity on both and assuming 50 at most for both Ely dk and eepy teri weapon and 14k on hofin adv for ss, I can have enough saved up for SS eepy teri and SSS vita still and this was done with my current crystals amount not with the amount I would have when 8.0 ends

I can actually get new kiana

[willow pumice]

These parts should be voiced

[steep axle]

I wkae up and first thing i see is a text wall

[copper shale]

this was voiced for me yea

[steep axle]

Oh well

[gleaming imp]

I got that first and second part voiced but in between the second and third with the scene with kiana mei carole it wasn't voiced for me

[steep axle]

I didn't play the event yet

[gleaming imp]

So my total crystal count including cards is 83,281, my pity is 76 but with free 5 card for half off multi it becomes 66 and weapon pity is 57 assuming hard pity that's 34,440 crystals for new kiana with weapon, so I'm left with 48,841, assuming Ely dk and eepy teri weapon are both 50 pulls or less than that leaves me with 20,841, that leaves with enough for 5 ten pulls on hofin adv for ss from s2 which leaves me with 6,841 crystals

[glass nacelle]

🐳

[mossy escarp]

🐳

V3 kiaded hohded trust

[gleaming imp]

[small wing]

So how's V3 Ely looking

[copper shale]

is it out it hought its tmr

[gleaming imp]

Assuming I get 14k per patch including 8.1 crystal gains when 8.5 drops I'll be at 62k crystals, use 28k on eepy teri adv I'm left with and 34,841 which means I'll be at 48,841 by 8.6 which is vita adv patch which means by the time 8.6 is over I'll have funds secured for the SSS vita

[glass nacelle]

inb4 v3 is cancelled, remove dkey ingame

[gleaming imp]

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

ely nerf dkey deleted

[urban cloud]

[gleaming imp]

[hasty cedar]

the hoc did it

[gleaming imp]

I just realized even with new Kiana and ely dk to my account I’ll still struggle on phys since no p2 phys valk

[terse ravine]

Beta v3 alr open?

[somber egret]

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia

[gleaming imp]

Why is Thales face blank she’s not even blank like the npcs to make it not noticeable

For anyone in beta please tell if ely and Kiana got buffs

[mossy escarp]

Cool patch note value changed check it urself

[glass nacelle]

kek

nice patch note

[gleaming imp]

Ely buffs?

[glass nacelle]

they adjust vita wp skill idk what's change

[gleaming imp]

Vita buffs

[short knoll]

need more nerf

[supple furnace]

[feral epoch]

vita nerf stonks

[supple furnace]

Skem i need refund

[terse ravine]

Aichan i request badum Kiana dorm chibi oke

[somber egret]

Sure

Downloading V3 on PC this time

1mbps

[naive briar]

where you live now :?

[somber egret]

connected on office net

[mossy escarp]

Hoo dps real

[somber egret]

Garuda Memorial before replaced by 8.2 BIO

[naive briar]

I misread that as grandma...

[somber egret]

[naive briar]

shuts cabbage

[somber egret]

Let grandma rest
Also grandma: kept AHR Form all the time

[terse ravine]

starless rimestar?

wait starless abyss reruns????????

[gleaming imp]

Starless

[naive briar]

I hate that enough, they should leave me alone
Lore: Fu Hua has difficulty standing and walking in AHR and she demands special shoes to ease her pain
Event writer: What if we keep Garuda AHR all the time and let her cycle

[somber egret]

[gleaming imp]

They need to shill fov look

[naive briar]

gameplay is fine. event writer is periodically losing memory

[gleaming imp]

Especially with adv coming up need to get people to swipe or get baited for it

[glass nacelle]

bait

[naive briar]

being Fu Hua can bait me already

[shrewd socket]

adv are the easiest skips ever

[mossy escarp]

Wow devs remember archive exists

[glass nacelle]

8.2 abyss boss is confirmed kek

[gleaming imp]

Easiest pulls ever*

[naive briar]

archive is always updating wdym
the only dead page is wotan

[gleaming imp]

Context?

[mossy escarp]

Wasnt it ded since sa

[glass nacelle]

where's dog

[naive briar]

woff

[somber egret]

flatlined

[naive briar]

kick yourself or I kick your bottom

[somber egret]

[mossy escarp]

Well like 7.3 content or so

[somber egret]

perception forgotten

[glass nacelle]

ded

[terse ravine]

tsk

[glass nacelle]

身首次星界崩裂命中敌人时使星之环能级额外回复15点",开启星环爆发后失效,其余效果不变```
idk what's difference ![BronieStare](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1196158822495035473.webp?size=128 "BronieStare")

combo atk => punch atk (idk en name)

someone said it's buff

[copper shale]

to me seems like a name change thats it, but wait for refs ig

her combo atk is literally named that

[glass nacelle]

huge vita buff

35% lightning dmg during arc

[copper shale]

i saw a comparison saying v2 teri aop was 5% better than ss songque aop, just wait for test numbers ig

[gleaming imp]

[small wing]

What is this?

[copper shale]

teri aop

[small wing]

Ah

[supple furnace]

Astral op

[small wing]

How's V3 Elysia looking

That's all I really care bout

Since we already know Kiana's gonna be good regardless

[copper shale]

just waiting for someone to do a b4 and after

[rain isle]

Teri buff?

[small wing]

@ me with the info whenever it comes out pls

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

nerf a bit in loa team, vita buff

[rain isle]

:o

What's the nerf for LoA?

[glass nacelle]

12% -> 10%

[rain isle]

[north karma]

Numbers out?

[unique swallow]

wtf is arc

oh astral ring charging

[terse ravine]

yatta finally my Bita dps not sad anymor

[unique swallow]

STIG ART IS OUT

[terse ravine]

[unique swallow]

wait i need to download the update fuuuuuuuu

[terse ravine]

good luck Cay

[glass nacelle]

seem ely L

[somber egret]

eLy

[willow pumice]

oh you dont have to do combo to restore drain anymore for first rot

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

Yeah only World Star has that issue

S Vita doesn't use her Combo for Stellar Drain with WoD Team
SS Vita on WoD Team only does Combo for Stellar Drain on first rotation and does not take Stellar Drain on subsequent rotation

[willow pumice]

oh wait your text is for weapon skill change. This is for the weapon
Skyveil Feathers:
OLD: When entering battle, consuming Stellar Drain for the first time with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.
NEW: When entering battle, hitting an enemy with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.

[willow pumice]

This one is another change. Basically the weapon change is to reflect the change for the first skill

[glass nacelle]

what's Celestial Rupture

[willow pumice]

combo

[glass nacelle]

[willow pumice]

Let me write a proper phrase for the skill change

[glass nacelle]

isn't it still the same

[willow pumice]

Lone Planetfarer:
When Law of Ascension is activated: When Enhanced Basic ATK SEQ 4 hits, a new effect is added: Consume Stellar Drain and Abyss stacks, and restore additional 15 AR. Reset the leader's switch CD, and trigger her QTE, other effects remain the same.

Skyveil Feathers:
OLD: When entering battle, consuming Stellar Drain for the first time with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.
NEW: When entering battle, hitting an enemy with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.

yea it's the same

for weapon

[glass nacelle]

ew LoA only

[willow pumice]

Improvement for LoA support, nothing changes for other AR

[fervent hinge]

She's less slow now basically?

[willow pumice]

First rot now can skip combo

[fervent hinge]

[willow pumice]

Right now only subsequent rot enhanced seq 4 consume Sdrain

[glass nacelle]

Does vita need to use ult in LoA team?

[still condor]

weapon only triggers the 15 bonus once per battle right?

[willow pumice]

ye, but she has enough sp to always ult without combo atk

[willow pumice]

yes only once, before the first SO

[glass nacelle]

I thought she would lack sp if she only had one target

[still condor]

the weapon change makes it sound like you can save the bonus 15 for later now

[willow pumice]

Added complete text for clarification

OLD: When entering battle, consuming Stellar Drain for the first time with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.
NEW: When entering battle, hitting an enemy with Combo ATK restore 15 bonus AR Intensity. Disabled upon entering Stellar Outburst.

[still condor]

oh kek

[glass nacelle]

snek kek

[feral epoch]

spoiler

[glass nacelle]

late

[naive briar]

you mean me? I didn't see a high res

[glass nacelle]

still late

[naive briar]

having a life outside of gaming, true

[glass nacelle]

调整了新增「易位-高危区」的关卡场景，并将主要敌人由「吼姆魔术师」调整为「吼姆表演家」

[willow pumice]

I think it's emperor? wtf is homu performer

also v3 note
v8.1 Patch Notes: MI | Rentry

[winter pumice]

Homu magician

[willow pumice]

no they changed from magician to something

[winter pumice]

The mob one

Wtf

Homu magician gone

It’s so over

[glass nacelle]

no homu emperor is 吼姆王

[north karma]

The ely nerf memes are real

[willow pumice]

whats the difference

[glass nacelle]

kek

[north karma]

Well then

[willow pumice]

The stage changed to the arc city

i think thats it really

[glass nacelle]

still same mech ?

[willow pumice]

mobs?

yes

[glass nacelle]

[willow pumice]

havent finished the fight lemme check

yeah same enemy

just different boss name and stage

[glass nacelle]

many homu weather kek

[zinc gorge]

why is ke🅱️in so cancer without dudu

tried using trio and the score

welp

even at rl it still looked sad

[urban cloud]

Is it lower than 600?

[steep axle]

Wjat do you think my 2/4 dudu will do

4 hours til i find out ig

[zinc gorge]

not that low

but definitely not enough for retention

[urban cloud]

Yep I'm so cooked

[zinc gorge]

ke🅱️in cancer frfr

[short knoll]

iirc, dudu can't reach 100% crit in 8.0 right?

[willow pumice]

cant

in p2 team

[short knoll]

still the same in 8.1?

[willow pumice]

100% with teri

(iirc)

[short knoll]

kinda funny how songque crit was a big topic back then but no one seem to care about dudu crit now

[somber egret]

Because even with more than 100% with Songque, there's still Ice DMG sometimes

[steep axle]

Does anyone remember if mobile hi3 had console support or not

I remember something in settings but

I think it was on pc

[glass nacelle]

ult dmg 2000% -> 1000% do they add her ult dmg in skill tree ?

[steep axle]

They heard all the v3 ely buff and nerfed her

[mossy escarp]

Ded valk real

[steep axle]

V3b ely buff trust

[somber egret]

V3B Ely Bluff

[glass nacelle]

nice cope

[sinful crown]

[somber egret]

Ult in Skill Tree is a different Ult

[sinful crown]

rip , ely no longer usable

[glass nacelle]

meanwhile kiana buff ig

[feral epoch]

lantern win?

[glass nacelle]

ely sss or die

real

[mossy escarp]

Skemd twice

[somber egret]

ely sss still ded

need ssss

[somber egret]

s lamp < sss ely
sss lamp >> sss ely

[mossy escarp]

Sss1 valk when

[somber egret]

only good thing with ely,
she has better managing of astral ring than lamp

also she's cute

[feral epoch]

s0 lamp ss0 ely

[somber egret]

ohhh nice ely rank reseted

[somber egret]

will test on it

the dkey did not

watch ely be good pair for the new ring

like sparkle, sht on everything good on LoA

[glass nacelle]

they nerfed her dkey, balance stig ig

her skills remain the same

eLy

[somber egret]

elybad still can't jump

[unique swallow]

Did they fr nerf Ely even more

Goddamn

[plucky cradle]

Elybad

[mossy escarp]

Elybad

[supple furnace]

Perfect bait for ely simp

[glass nacelle]

[short knoll]

need more nerf, still pretty good

[glass nacelle]

need doomposting

[terse ravine]

[short knoll]

be positive, she is still great

[somber egret]

s lamp = s ely

both mid

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

[somber egret]

s ely >>>> s lamp
||on range Heph||

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

Ai chan's clickbait era

[glass nacelle]

ben

[mossy escarp]

Remove fire immune

[terse ravine]

Aichan soup my dinner tonight

[somber egret]

Hmm not much of a diff on score between s lamp and s ely
But s ely feels more ease to use than s lamp

s ely is faster to enter first ar cause only need 2 aimed-shot for 2 stellar drain

[unique swallow]

so how bad is ely rn

[somber egret]

Both are sht after first ar,
lamp stuck on shooting stuff with her crossbow
ely stuck on aiming and shooting with her cutebow

[willow pumice]

v8.1 Translations V3 🧧

• v8.1 Patch Notes: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Skills: MI | Rentry
• Ba-dum! Kiana Equipment: MI | Rentry
• Elysia Divine Key, Stigma, New Skills: MI | Rentry
• Theresa AstralOp: MI | Rentry
• Elysian Realm: MI | Rentry

[mossy escarp]

Thales no eyes rip

[glass nacelle]

self breach in 2025

[somber egret]

Can't say yet cause V2 Ely is immediate sss
But for now, I'd say she's decent

[short knoll]

wdym, doesnt everyone have self breach?

[torn wraith]

How to obtain Vita outfit

[somber egret]

Outfit Supply

[torn wraith]

o

[somber egret]

save 9600 Crystals

[torn wraith]

thanks

[somber egret]

[rain isle]

My Ellie will only be S2

[glass nacelle]

ss theresa or die

[rain isle]

Bruh

[final locust]

laugs nervously...... why did they giganerf my queen ely

[naive briar]

AI chan bad

[short knoll]

8.1 skip patch real

[final locust]

stop it

[short knoll]

everything bad

[junior nova]

Even kiana?

[final locust]

v3 coming..!

[neat yoke]

Can't skip spending.

[short knoll]

can skip everything

[neat yoke]

Then you won't get anything

[short knoll]

see?

[neat yoke]

Better just drop the game.

[short knoll]

1 year of skipping

[junior nova]

175k wow

That's insane

[rain isle]

That's with bp/monthly most likely

[robust crane]

keeping it for their children

[rain isle]

I got somewhere in the 140k range as f2p

Man. Why did they make ss Teri better?

[stable pewter]

Honestly V3 was pretty good

Kiana and her gear is looking good

[rain isle]

:o

[robust crane]

is v3 out?

[stable pewter]

Teri OP is getting better

[rain isle]

I saw some numbers moving around in Kiana's skills, haven't seen her gear yet

[final locust]

yes

[stable pewter]

Elysia seems to have been hit pretty hard though kinda

[robust crane]

yall got a video on what was changed?

[rain isle]

Teri op got more damage for herself but less buffs on S?

[stable pewter]

A lot of it seems to be moving round stuff or just decreasing multipliers

[final locust]

its in pins

[rain isle]

Would that be right?

[final locust]

see for yourself

[strange lintel]

Pulling hohe dkey is a wise choice or not?

[final locust]

yes

[strange lintel]

Rn i have songque, vita and dudu

[rain isle]

I saw, but I'm asking for confirmation lol

[final locust]

even more yes

[strange lintel]

Ok thnx

[final locust]

well.. maybe not with no thelema

[strange lintel]

I have thelema also

[final locust]

oh pull it then ye

[strange lintel]

And rn i have 49.5k crystals is it enough to get 4/4 Kiana, hohe dkey and vita skin?

[final locust]

depends on your pity but most likely yes

[steep axle]

9.6k just for vita

39k is like

150 pulls or smth

[final locust]

he can make more by the time 8.0 ends, like 56-57k

[steep axle]

• there are free pulls

[strange lintel]

20 free pulls

[final locust]

then the discounted pull and free foca card from BP if u havent got that yet

[strange lintel]

Got that already

[steep axle]

5 pink card from vita outfit

[strange lintel]

And my weapon pity is at 55

[final locust]

ye ur fine

[strange lintel]

So 5 pulls less

[final locust]

you can probably get all that and SS teriop

[steep axle]

Better than me tbh

[strange lintel]

Nah imma skip teri for 8.2 valk

[final locust]

i dont know if teri is even skippable

[strange lintel]

Already hit hard pity for dudu and weapon

[final locust]

she does too much for LoA

[strange lintel]

145 pulls in total

[steep axle]

You can always just

[strange lintel]

I'll pull if I don't hit hard pity for everything

[steep axle]

I got vita in 88 pulls

[strange lintel]

Rough

[steep axle]

Weapon in 52

[strange lintel]

I got vita weapon in 55 pulls and hofi dkey in 52 pulls 😦

[pseudo trellis]

does kiana and hohe go together in a team?

[strange lintel]

But s2 vita in 30 pulls

[unique swallow]

Me when the enemy takes ??? more elemental dmg

[steep axle]

Yes

[unique swallow]

The effectiveness is debatable but it works

[strange lintel]

Cay loved ur guide

[steep axle]

Ill use kiana ely vita

Or dudu if i get her weapon

[abstract night]

Tf does that mean

[steep axle]

Why are there so many supports

[strange lintel]

Get lucky

[steep axle]

I belive its pretty understandable in itself

[abstract night]

I kinda just see pictures pointing with a x1,x3,x5

[steep axle]

Yes

[abstract night]

Makes no sense to me

[short knoll]

1 pull for everything

[abstract night]

Oh

[strange lintel]

So cute

[steep axle]

So cute indeed

[abstract night]

Smh

[strange lintel]

My 145 pull right there

[steep axle]

Would be cuter if she could clear abyss side stages

[ember locust]

Time is ticking blud

To resolve your skill issue I mean

[steep axle]

Cant solve if i dont have one

[ember locust]

You do have one

[steep axle]

Its dudu issue

And me forgetting to log in whole summer issue

[ember locust]

And that is your issue

[unique swallow]

[ember locust]

That is still your issue kekw

Even me I wouldn't delegate my skill issue that much

[twin dune]

Abyssless behaviour

[ember locust]

Save skilless issue

[strange lintel]

What's the best team for today's boss

[final locust]

dudu

[ember locust]

The End of the End intensifies

Dudu Sparkle Queque

[strange lintel]

No sparkle, stop shilling her mhy

[unique swallow]

Keep shilling her mhy

[north karma]

How is v3

[north karma]

Thats a funny looking dudu weapon

[ember locust]

Please V3, bless our Pink Jesus

[nova osprey]

She got nerfed

[naive briar]

Ely nerfed

[nova osprey]

[dry delta]

orrevt to bufed

buff

[steep axle]

v3b ely buff trust

[north karma]

Wait for v3.9999

[steep axle]

v3e ely nerf again bc v3c was too much buff trust

oh god it really is a big nerf

was she even that strong in v2

[unique swallow]

No

[north karma]

Kiana got a few touches while ely got ransacked

What kinda favoritism

[unique swallow]

Buff the ult animation first

It’s so bad

[steep axle]

yeah that

but what could they add

[unique swallow]

After the glass ely just go to her drawing back her bow and firing a cool looking arrow

It’s simple but so much better than fading to white

[somber egret]

players after sometime: can we skip this ugly long animation

[unique swallow]

[junior nova]

So kiana has not downgraded in quality whatsoever? just want to make sure

[abstract night]

Isnt that songques SO scene

[steep axle]

we alr have story skip button we must be grateful

[abstract night]

I dont really like songques SO intro ani so maybe im just biased

[north karma]

Not too sure how good she is currently but i assume she hits like a sponge kek(talking about ely)

[steep axle]

i play hi3 in class i would be dead if i had songque

[somber egret]

not the first one,
so many complained of ely ult finisher in er being too long

[abstract night]

Dkey ely or ely

[somber egret]

ely

[abstract night]

I didnt feel like it was to long

[north karma]

Kiana is fine, a bit worse if that

[steep axle]

it wasnt long

theres time stop anyways

[glass nacelle]

I play hack n slash game not watch long ass animation

[somber egret]

regardless, it's long for speedrunners cause they took time on restarting stages too

their problems anyway
But like not giving an option to toggle that is bad

[unique swallow]

ok but that's ER

you're doing multiple stages in a row

and it's not like FWS isn't just cutscene impact too

[abstract night]

Fws....is. who?

[nova osprey]

Cutscene impact is great

[abstract night]

I feel like i should really know wgo that is

[nova osprey]

Snake tuna

[abstract night]

Oh
Badum kiana?

[steep axle]

fire work what is s for

[somber egret]

badumb kiana

[somber egret]

snek

[steep axle]

fire work snek

[somber egret]

[north karma]

No this is honkai impact

[muted mauve]

Why not just CNY Kiana

[naive briar]

because people want to meme

I keep saying new year Kiana
and I won't bonk carv this time for the political incorrect speech

[somber egret]

NYK

[naive briar]

cabbage

[glass nacelle]

Snek kiana = SK

[steep axle]

shadow knight

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

that one hua

[north karma]

Smh fossil

[nova osprey]

Snek tuna = ST

[steep axle]

im not even that old

[nova osprey]

[steep axle]

nyt new year tuna

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-17674510062897941419

[muted mauve]

If I said something wrong I'd rather you tell me ._. ...

Don't say "oh you said something bad but I'm gonna ignore."

[unique swallow]

Is it because the politically correct term is lunar new year

[plucky cradle]

yes

[naive briar]

cay smart

[naive briar]

I said it before. reality is nobody cares on the English speaking side as the term had been around so long, and in the end it is "asian things"

[plucky cradle]

[unique swallow]

caybad

caycontentfarming failed

balatro time

[naive briar]

farm AI chan

[muted mauve]

thx. I was under the wrong impression they were interchangeable.

[naive briar]

anyways carv bad

[muted mauve]

...

[naive briar]

[muted mauve]

oh, they buffed Vita.

[glass nacelle]

Vitaover

[gleaming imp]

Vita stocks up

[ember locust]

Wait wha

So they buffed Joker FemOtto but not Pink Jesus

[naive briar]

you are joker

[ember locust]

[naive briar]

[gleaming imp]

Wait my queen ely got merfed?

[fervent hinge]

as long as she still gives my HoV 20 atk idc

[nova osprey]

Yes her max ult mult went from 2k to 1k

[feral epoch]

lol

revived to be LoA and ??? support ig

[short knoll]

she is still good for her job

[gleaming imp]

Why would they nerf, the whole point is to sell by appealing to nostalgia of people like me

[nova osprey]

Well ult is just one part of her dmg, needa wait someone make a comparison

[short knoll]

still too strong, need more nerf

[feral epoch]

yes, for my nonexistent lantern substitute

[gleaming imp]

More like replacement since lamp bad

[naive briar]

still don't understand lamp gameplay

[feral epoch]

use shotgun and machine gun, ignore crossbow

especially during stellar outburst

[naive briar]

[glass nacelle]

her optimization is quite complicated

[muted mauve]

I don't know who you are talking about but it's certainly not Vita.

[glass nacelle]

no more afk gaming

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

do we have v3.5 ? this was 3 hours ago

[feral epoch]

floating

[steep axle]

v3b real

[fathom thistle]

will topup bonuses reset next patch?

[copper shale]

i heard yes

[feral epoch]

for overseas server

[copper shale]

is it diff? ik cn is getting topup bonuses reset, at least thats what i heard

[feral epoch]

cn doesn't

[copper shale]

ah

[glass nacelle]

cn got it

[feral epoch]

is it

[glass nacelle]

CN always reset in cny

[feral epoch]

i thought anniv

[glass nacelle]

[ember locust]

We might not talk about the same kind of Joker (was not making a ref to Batman lol)

[glass nacelle]

no

[ember locust]

Ely buff bc they complained ?

[glass nacelle]

no info

ask @willow pumice

[ember locust]

I'm cooping 🤌🤌🥲🥲, Please Marisa save us

[naive briar]

first thing comparing Vita to Otto is already lore skipper

[willow pumice]

this vid says dmg is around the same as v2
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1QacReYEFq

[copper shale]

ngl lore skipper wont even say such thing xd

[glass nacelle]

I think his test method is not quite right

[copper shale]

just wait for actual refs

[somber egret]

Ely DKey Value adjusted

[verbal mountain]

wow teri aop big nerf

for LoA

[ember locust]

Not liking it is not the same as skipping

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

Not liking it is not as spreading utter misinfo

[sly valve]

nerf = adjusted lmao

[naive briar]

adjusted for scam

[verbal mountain]

elybad lamp better?

[somber egret]

Whats the change the value still the same

[glass nacelle]

skem

[somber egret]

both bad

[verbal mountain]

factual

[somber egret]

They kept inputting adjusted ely dkey value in patch notes
but there's no changes at all

[glass nacelle]

what's theresa change

[rain isle]

For Aop?

[somber egret]

have not seen yet
keeping her at srank for a while

[rain isle]

I think they buffed some of her SS stuff, buffed base dmg but nerfed base buffs a bit?

Idr for certain

[glass nacelle]

it said they changed theresa value

[somber egret]

she now throws bittermelon instead of judah spear

[glass nacelle]

is it 5% or 3%

[steep axle]

3

wait when is 1st picture from

[verbal mountain]

so it's actually 3%

[spare folio]

How good ely as dps now considering she got nerfed ?

[little ledge]

should still be the best for freeze mech bosses innit

who topscores ranged kaplas btw?

[somber egret]

songque

[little ledge]

oh right Que Thel should work

[feral epoch]

add lantern

[strange crystal]

Aside from HoHE, who can use Elysia Pristine stigmata as alternative?

[somber egret]

none I thought her new stigs

[feral epoch]

any ice dps (not worth)

[strange crystal]

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

For reference:
SS+3 Song SS+3 Lamp SSS+3 Thel SSS Sera scores 780+ on 535D
SSS+3 Ely SS+3 Lamp SSS+3 Thel SSS Sera scores 820+ on 515D (V2)

Ely Ult DMG is so sht can't delete 1/3 hp bar

[abstract night]

What changed in HoH er gameplay

[little ledge]

I feel like ult dmg in p2 is underwhelming in general

[somber egret]

[feral epoch]

isn't her ult dmg always underwhelming since release

[final locust]

no its decent now

[glass nacelle]

new homu has a slightly different mech than old homu

[abstract night]

Whats wrong with hoh's ult dmg

[feral epoch]

nothing wrong

[somber egret]

only on ranged heph she felt even better than before

cause of her constant rime trauma and longer duration

[glass nacelle]

how about support

[keen patrol]

Did they srsly nerfed Ely gear more?

[glass nacelle]

they want you upgrade her rank

[somber egret]

[keen patrol]

They would had to rework this whole game to be more impressive then genshin, star rail and zzz combine xD

[fervent hinge]

Ragebait used to be believable

[terse ravine]

There's a v3b? How Ely changed from v3a?

[sinful crown]

ely nerfed?

[unique swallow]

gacha system already more impressive than all 3 games

[fervent hinge]

Literally

The rng reliance of other hoyo games is fucking ridiculous and it's why I'll never play them

[tired mountain]

no farming main/substats: priceless

[unique swallow]

but balatro is peak game and it's rng reliant

[fervent hinge]

Isnt it a card game the rng is kinda necessary

[unique swallow]

yes but that's besides the point

[fervent hinge]

Now imagine every card has substats

[unique swallow]

well

they can have enhancements!

[somber egret]

hi3xhsr collab

[unique swallow]

ohno

[glass nacelle]

but it's farmable

[fervent hinge]

What is

Crystals are farmable too

And you're guaranteed to not get dogshit after 90 pulls

And affixes don't really matter compared to substats

And affix materials are also farmable

All p2 stigs are farmable too

[ember locust]

Nuke Qween

[ember locust]

U both bad @verbal mountain
Elybest better than badlamp

[muted mauve]

Starless Rimestar is back

[rain isle]

But, it already is better, always was beacuse there's no artifact/relic/disk nonsense. And better gacha too

and better story

[keen patrol]

Better gacha? You mean that valk is nearly useless without her gear and teammates? 😆

[terse ravine]

WOHO MY SSS HOO PARTY LESGO

[keen patrol]

Ehhh questionable after part 1 and few spots in it

But nothing is perfect

[rain isle]

I mean if you're not able to get teams running in this game it is kinda skill issue, especially with p2

[edgy drift]

the characters in the others are also useless without gear or teams

[rain isle]

^^^

[edgy drift]

except zzz I guess, you can solo all the shit with base ranks (still need gear tho)

[rain isle]

That's all gacha at the end of the day

[rain isle]

Devs:

[keen patrol]

Show me what valk works with non bis weapon good enough.

[edgy drift]

nobody here said they did ?

[gleaming imp]

We're in the p2 era where valks are dps and supports and have RoO valks like vita hofin as options

[keen patrol]

All relics stuff are just better for f2p cmon

[rain isle]

Wh

[edgy drift]

(otherwise Sena support is like 3% dmg loss without weap)

[verbal mountain]

i don't think this is anything about the quality of the games lol, different styles tho
obviously you'll need gear here because you're competing with other players who will also have gear

[versed garden]

I'd take needing gear over 50/50 and months of relic farming

[rain isle]

You have no idea how long I was farming for just Jingliu to have a good build. And I still do for Acheron. Hell no man

[rain isle]

I read that eeper Teri isn't that reliant on her wep as well?

[edgy drift]

One has a guarantee to get what you want, no ifs or buts but you'll need some of your "premium" currency for it.
The other can theoretically get it without "premium" currency but it could take you 6 months of doing nothing else to achieve that

And in the end they all get you about the same number of characters on average either way, around 1 every other patch

(including weapon for hi3)

[gleaming imp]

Mobius with Judah, HoO with 7T, HoO with tb zhenyi M schro, luna with Judah, fischl with the bow that gives SP, aihyperion with purana,

[smoky lintel]

it realy isnt you just have to stop the gacha addiction and save. relics is just pure luck that cant be influenced by pity theyve just added system for that in hsr and genshin which take ages to farm tbh.

[rain isle]

To add to that, the newer games have double the amount of releases per patch, which means it is much tougher to fill the roster in actuality, in comparison to HI3

[edgy drift]

Luna Judah is ass don't fool yourself (and the first 2 are hyperspecific cases, while the bow was made for Fischl)

[rain isle]

[gleaming imp]

[rain isle]

Plz don't cry

[edgy drift]

Relics are just engagement farming to give stuff to log for in the content droughts

And the simple fact that they still refuse to add gear presets is a proof of that, they want you to spend more time on it by making it so annoying to swap them around that you just get multiple copies

[rain isle]

There were multiple cases where I had to spend well over 200 pulls to get E0S1 characters in HSR (essentially just one copy of character and weapon), with said amount being equivalent to valk+wep+ranks in HI3.

[rain isle]

And apparently the new reroll dice are kek too, I've already seen many screenshots of rerolls going into worse stats lol

[edgy drift]

My record is 302
That's higher than hi3 p1 hard pity

[edgy drift]

It's just a reroll, it does the same thing as when you lvl it up, it's all random

[rain isle]

I think mine was like, 250 or so? For just E0S1 Fu Xuan

[gleaming imp]

I had to spend 300+ pulls to get fugue and firefly and both had lost 50/50s, the 50/50 automatically makes the gacha in the other hoyo games worse than hi3 since in hi3 everything is guaranteed without a 50/50 loss

[rain isle]

They forgot to add locking subs XD

[smoky lintel]

[edgy drift]

that was mine

[rain isle]

[edgy drift]

but either way, they all have better points and worse points

in the end they're gachas and want your money

[rain isle]

Literally my experience with Fu Xuan, but it took me a couple less 10pulls in the LCs

Yes

HI3 still better tho

[edgy drift]

one isn't objectively better or worse than the others

[muted mauve]

where is my damage

[edgy drift]

just different shit done differently

[verbal mountain]

fighting over "which gacha is better" when they're completely different types of gameplay is the most confusing shit to ever try to argue about

[terse ravine]

Trio?

[verbal mountain]

lmao

[glass nacelle]

gacha in 2025

[muted mauve]

HoO - HoFin - Luna.

[edgy drift]

(nvm GI is objectively worse)

[muted mauve]

Can't even one shot phase 1

[rain isle]

[edgy drift]

gacha wise at least, their banners are still a joke

[terse ravine]

In RL just use Eden, Loona too slow
Heck even HoTr works despite Rimestar ice immunity

[edgy drift]

compared to the other 2 "modern" hoyo games

[gleaming imp]

Well it's genshin they're the most stingy among the hoyo games with freebies

[verbal mountain]

2x the effort for half the pulls kek

[rain isle]

[edgy drift]

but hi3 can't really be compared ot the other 3, all the systems are so different

one thing we can compare is the price of whaling and in hi3 it's horrible

[muted mauve]

hi3 the only one among them with a big focus on competitive

[edgy drift]

ZZZ has 1 mode that shows your rank but only shown on hoyolab and there's nothing to gain with it

still funny that they bothered doing that

[gleaming imp]

Hi3 has ADVs while the other don't that makes hi3 better since it appeals to fans such as myself who would want ranks for their faves

[ember locust]

Oh hell nah 💀, though I wasn't excepting that. It might be the only Starless weather that reran so far

[edgy drift]

SK ran twice I'm pretty sure

[terse ravine]

Yep, after that most Starless bosses dont rerun

[ember locust]

At least, you don't need 300ish pulls like on Genshin and ZZZ

[steep axle]

What level of skill issue is this

[ember locust]

Twice ?

Hold on...

[muted mauve]

I wonder if the Vita changes will help her compete with other LoA since they seem to focus on regen speed.

[edgy drift]

Tbh the weapon argument is weird to me too, a lot of characters in the other Hoyo games also perform way worse and miss some utility without their sig. It just doesn't matter because the content is easy and you're not ranked against others. Like in hi3 if you're content with lower ranks valks can work just fine without their sig too and clear stuff

[gleaming imp]

Dudu bad real

[pallid cosmos]

Real.

[steep axle]

2/4 dudu real

[gleaming imp]

Also I think it's because of hofin being there who isn't compatible with new dudu iirc

[steep axle]

I dont have anyone else

[rain isle]

Just peeps conveniently leaving things out. Or they just don't know what they're talking about. XD

[muted mauve]

One thing HI3 is better at is the release schedule. We have less valks per patch.

[rain isle]

Yes, thank god

[steep axle]

Ill try to get more than 500 tomorrow

[ember locust]

Indeed, it reran once, my bad

[steep axle]

400 in a3 kinda embarrassing

[edgy drift]

in hi3 if we had a valk that scaled like this we'd be seeing riots in the streets

[rain isle]

I've been saying it since the stone age (aka HSR release), double releases are damaging the game everywhere. Story, gameplay loop, endgame, characters, you name it.

[steep axle]

Wasnt it like that a while ago

There were good f2p opinions

Is it option

[rain isle]

Holy 💩

[smoky lintel]

thats honestly insane

[rain isle]

[ember locust]

So true lmfao, HSR and their 6-8 banners in some patch somehow smh

[steep axle]

Hsr bad i played it over 12 hours this week

Not this week last 3-4 days

[muted mauve]

I'm talking about new releases not reruns

[rain isle]

The reruns are fine imo, the new double peeps pet patch isn't

[gleaming imp]

They should have ADV in HSR that gives you character at E3

[rain isle]

It makes everything about the game worse

[steep axle]

Id quit hi3 if they added 10 hour stories per chapter tbh

[rain isle]

Even tho people see all the reruns and think they gotta pull everything. Such kekery I swear

[edgy drift]

It's really stupid (and also the only case that is this bad, and by far, but still funny to see considering the base is already amongst the highest)

[muted mauve]

your nightmare is my dream

[glass nacelle]

[smoky lintel]

surely they wont keep this a trend

[rain isle]

I don't mind long chapters as long as they're handled well enough

[ember locust]

It's better that than multiple new banners per patch, really

[rain isle]

Aka not just put a ton of stuff in it and say it just works. Looking at you, HSR

[tired mountain]

I'm pretty casual about HSR, mostly just afk burn stamina every day, autoplay the challenge modes
Enjoying the new chapter so far

[edgy drift]

I mean, we kinda already did ?

[rain isle]

[scarlet sapphire]

Personally I wouldn't mind if the super long HSR chapters got split in 2-3 parts like HI3 used to do
(Short ones like 2.7 are fine in one go)

[rain isle]

It is nice, but no reason to be as long as it is lol.

Still nice tho

[rain isle]

Just play the chapter over multiple sessions

[ember locust]

Believe me... As a veteran F2P of gacha games, you really don't want to fall in celebrations/patches with multiple new banners @steep axle

[gleaming imp]

Don't we already get that every patch

[muted mauve]

Nah. They reach 7 hours and some minutes. Never 10

[edgy drift]

Tbh that one can be seen both ways.
If the triple rerun are consistent they're amazing, gets everything rolled out sooner and more often
If they're occasional and always pack the desirable ones together while leaving single rerun patches to filler chars then they increase fomo even more and it's ass

[ember locust]

Not the multiple new banners things

[scarlet sapphire]

I do already, but it means that I have to go on spoiler blackout for way longer

[edgy drift]

I vastly prefer being able to do it whenever over the game telling me when i'm allowed to

[rain isle]

Fair argument, I can see that happening tbh. Not a farfetched situation.

They introduced the multiple reruns in 2.5 with Feixiao, then did it again in 2.7? And now it is for both phases kek

[rain isle]

No I meant to take breaks if needed

[edgy drift]

Ye I was agreeing with you there

[rain isle]

Ah, I misinterpreted your words then

[edgy drift]

rather than it being split arbitrarily during the patch

[rain isle]

Oof

HI3 did suffer from this a lot

[glass nacelle]

can't find v3 ely ref

elybad

[edgy drift]

if that one was consistent and not just an occasional issue

V3 is probably still a buff even with the other numbers being lowered

[ember locust]

I just hope it's a buff, I don't want a lampbad situation

My HoHe is SS1

[muted mauve]

Didn't manage to go that much higher (I really need to get Divine Keys on my CN account) but did get 10+ points. Thx.

[gleaming imp]

Same, I want her to feel strong like hofin did

[ember locust]

Too slow 💀💀 ? You use QTE and maintain ATK, one tap Weap, Maintain Weap, Ult... It's not even that long compared to some other charas

Otherwise HoTr works too

Depends on how long last HoFi's support though

[muted mauve]

Compared to Eden which is literally just Qte, yes.

[ember locust]

Don't you need Ult if for SP regen or not using it at all ?

[edgy drift]

you don't need sp regen

[glass nacelle]

use htr is better

[restive rose]

Soooo is teriop kinda a must?

[edgy drift]

probably as much as the others

you suffer less from the ARi regen than other rings, but the extra shift does a similar effect allowing you to hit one in both phases of a boss

[vagrant yew]

Low-key regret getting SS sera

[edgy drift]

but in a more flexible way

[gleaming imp]

Sera bad since she’s p2, teriteri better since she’s p1 and appeals to my nostalgia

[edgy drift]

don't you get tired of writing the same thing 27 times per day ?

or did you just copy paste the entire nostalgia template and just fill in the blanks ?

[ember locust]

I swear

[gleaming imp]

Can’t when teriteri better though I can’t afford SS

Or even s0

And she would only benefit my vita and that’s it

[edgy drift]

I mean you most definitely can, you just don't want to

[ember locust]

Me when Teriteri benefits for Kiana and Bita

https://tenor.com/view/kiana-kaslana-kiana-kiana-hi3-honkai-impact-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-2188122693212646610

[gleaming imp]

Why is she only lighting RoO what about my trio

[ember locust]

No Lightning WoD

[tired mountain]

kiana: fingergun

[ember locust]

No Captainverse P2

Only Dreams

[vagrant yew]

should've saved for SS teri

[gleaming imp]

But she doesn’t benefit my trio, it’s like they forgot they made hofin a RoO fire valk

[glass nacelle]

triover

[gleaming imp]

Question since I’m going for new Kiana, what’s the diff between 4S kiaelf and S0 teriteri aop

I just know that teriteri let’s Kiana do one more stellar shift

Iirc it’s the stellar shift or nuke

[edgy drift]

Oh they did not forget

That's specifically why it buffs lightning and not just elem dmg

[unique swallow]

kekfacepalm

[gleaming imp]

[restive rose]

Is teriop S0 bad? Worth going all the way for SS like for sera?

[unique swallow]

36 ARI for RoO

[edgy drift]

wait for beta to end for the numbers and comparisons

[unique swallow]

not sure how much for LoA i didn't count

[edgy drift]

LoA is like 16

[unique swallow]

oh that's kind of whatever xd

[edgy drift]

so 1 less qte to cast

[unique swallow]

tbf LoA starts charging right after outburst