🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[steep axle]

seems ok for me

[quasi glen]

I just need to survive no dudu this patch

[steep axle]

would be cool if i got ely dkey early

[quasi glen]

I may be able to snatch kiana dkey + aop

[steep axle]

i got dudu first 10 pull but dunno if i should pull her weapon

i have like 6k rn

[dusky cradle]

Pls dont

[steep axle]

why

[naive zinc]

Hoyo pls just give the damn HoFi for free now

[dusky cradle]

Dont look good. You're not guaranteed to get anything

[steep axle]

give HoF free first damn

[unique swallow]

It's called onomatopoeia

[naive zinc]

dont they already do ?

[steep axle]

no

free HoF when my cny outfit is waiting

[naive zinc]

THEY HAVENT ???

[naive zinc]

i swear they do

[steep axle]

nah

ive been playing for 4 years

[dusky cradle]

HoF? Wait you mean flamescion? (Thought we're talking hoh sorry)

[quasi glen]

Dis whale

[steep axle]

we got frigid rerun before free HoF

[last yew]

big words, as expected from a big CONTENT CREATOR

[naive zinc]

oop nvm its elysia realm stamp

[quasi glen]

[somber egret]

cause she's badumb

[naive zinc]

oh well

[unique swallow]

[unique swallow]

ai chan

[steep axle]

my HoF cny outfit will not be used in 2025 either 😔

[somber egret]

[naive zinc]

I think we wont be having free kiana

[dusky cradle]

"Our Badumb Kiana Can't Be This Cute"

[steep axle]

doubt HoF will rerun for like next 2 years or smth

[restive rose]

cay

pulls? Did you go for it?

[steep axle]

what is wrong with my keyboard

i can give my first 10 pull dudu

[unique swallow]

@restive rose

[restive rose]

Oop

[steep axle]

at least you didnt do 88 pulls for it

[restive rose]

[steep axle]

well id say save for kiana but idk

[restive rose]

I haven’t done my pulls yet I’m nervous

[steep axle]

you will get dudu in first 10 trust

[restive rose]

[steep axle]

hi3 huawei keyboard support when 😔

[unique swallow]

I could afford it I'd just have 9k left and my pity reset

[steep axle]

that makes like 21k for cny

[dusky cradle]

If this continues i might drain my bank account

[restive rose]

Don’t do it loli dudu not even as cute as adult Dudu anyway

[steep axle]

imagine having a bank accountoh wait

i have a bank account now

[dusky cradle]

Tho the story make me less spirited in this game. Came out uneasy, not as bad as lament of the fallen tho

[unique swallow]

Wtf smol dudu is cute

[dusky cradle]

I must say mei going down give me one of the stronger dps that time (HoT) so I can't say it's all bad

[steep axle]

i can say my bank account is alr empty now

[restive rose]

adult Dudu better

[steep axle]

short hair part 2 dudu when

[dusky cradle]

My bank acc money can last for 2 month

[steep axle]

i have like
1 cent

even less

its been like that since summer

[dusky cradle]

Anyway I'll just wait for CN event. Im not excited for the story (coz it ended up sad and tense)

[steep axle]

i have no idea what story is about

i lowkey forgot to read

[dusky cradle]

No need, just touch grass

Better for your health

[steep axle]

i cant join raffle thing bc of it

i cant win ely figure 😭

[dusky cradle]

Idt we will win ely figure

[willow pumice]

what acronym does the new kiana even use

badum?

[dusky cradle]

Good question. Idk either

[steep axle]

badum

[dusky cradle]

Like imagine asking who to pull and anyone just say
BADUM 🎆

[unique swallow]

FWS

[steep axle]

fireworks

[willow pumice]

[steep axle]

no way the fireworks cny stig

[tranquil vale]

What are you willing to give to get what you truly desire?

[ember locust]

Her heart 💀🫣 what the

Oh HELL NAH

[muted mauve]

Why not just CNY Kiana.

Also story must be spoiler tag until 24h after release

[distant lagoon]

why is this npc so well detailed?

[tranquil vale]

It's a spoiler channel though

[muted mauve]

It's a CN gameplay channel. Not a story channel.

[tranquil vale]

That's not the right timing for the lore channel

[tranquil vale]

Why not?

[muted mauve]

❓

[distant lagoon]

part 2 npcs are more detailed than before but that girl is even more than the p2 standard

[tranquil vale]

Yeah and?

[past pebble]

is coralie undead

[dapper smelt]

Is Ely's New Set Going With The New Kiana Battle suit and Her Set?

[tranquil vale]

Play the story to find out

[past pebble]

no

i need spoilers

[lime star]

I low-key wanted Ely to be RoO

I guess vita won't be rid of Coralie just yet

[ember locust]

I guess Coralie was meant to be forgotten

(Please catch the joke)

[ember locust]

It's meant to be with Ely's suit not Kiana's

[past pebble]

copium is my life support

[ember locust]

At this point this is way more simple lol

[dapper smelt]

I meant in the Banner, Will Elysia's New Set be with The New Kiana's Set in the Banner?

[jagged meteor]

no that's a separate banner

[restive rose]

They’ll have separate banners

[dapper smelt]

But they'll both release next patch right?

[restive rose]

Yep

[ember locust]

Nope

Separate banners as usual

[dapper smelt]

Dang it.. My F2P Ass Can't get Both Elysia's New Set Or The New Tuna And Her Set..

[muted mauve]

I think these are easily the best looking eyes in the game.

[ember locust]

Depends, how many cards and crystals do you have ?

[dapper smelt]

0 and Enough for a 10 pull-

[ember locust]

You're cooked, you will have to do a choice

As for me I'm fine, I legit have enough to do 140 pulls rn and I'm skipping Dudu

[dapper smelt]

I have 23 pity left on the weapon Banner (cuz I was trying to get Sparkles weapon but didn't work out)

So.. Should I get elysia's new weapon and stigmas?

[ember locust]

It will port to Kiana's banner

[muted mauve]

Love all the little emotes

[ember locust]

Hmmm depends on what you have from part 2

[rain isle]

[muted mauve]

why does Lambda appear twice

[dapper smelt]

I haven't played part 2 yet-

[ember locust]

💀💀 If you don't have P2 characters good luck to follow the meta

[muted mauve]

And Senti is here

[dapper smelt]

Nor have I finished part 1-

[muted mauve]

@naive briar

[dapper smelt]

I only have, Helia, Sparkle (I Guess) And Finality with her new set (I guess)

I am not built for this-

[naive briar]

Flat

[ember locust]

Huuh... now that's a good question

[muted mauve]

???

Oh. They are all here.

[tranquil vale]

Then do YT

[muted mauve]

Remember to pet Rice Cake

[dapper smelt]

I'm cooked.. I need to do Part 2 Asap to get the crystals they're going to give-

Chapter 1 to 7.. That won't be too long right?

Because I haven't started part 2 yet-

[ember locust]

You're in for 3 days straight if you play for several hours

[dapper smelt]

Not that long tbh

[unique swallow]

Rice cake merch when

[lime star]

Buhahahaha!

[versed garden]

[fervent hinge]

OH THIS?

Yeah I knew

[slim lion]

Yes

[fervent hinge]

I'm happy to have more HoV atk :>

[slim lion]

Oh! Sorry for ping haha

[fervent hinge]

nono its ok xD

ur right

[slim lion]

I need to get spare funds at some point and sync3 waxxing moon and this new key

[fervent hinge]

funds doko

I'm skipping 8.1 valk except discounted pull

I'm so tired of bricking my account for a valkyrie I hate

[slim lion]

Reduced to ashes

[fervent hinge]

I'm gonna end up in RL soon anyway why spend more to do so

on something I don't even want to play

[slim lion]

Oh yea lyo I might see u in nirvana if I can manage to survive dudu weathers

[fervent hinge]

:O

I'll remain in nirv for the most part in ver 8.0

[tranquil vale]

Skipping tuna?

[fervent hinge]

I need rs hov support footage anyway

[slim lion]

I am only missing 100 trophies now

[fervent hinge]

yeah don't like her, no need to spoiler here btw

[slim lion]

It's SS from yesterday so I already got trophies

[fervent hinge]

poggies

[tranquil vale]

Join the tuna club

Barely 25k crystals atm and a pity at 80. Sigh.

[slim lion]

Someone sponser me dudu and hohe dkey so I can see lyo fr

[tranquil vale]

I want lil Dudu but...

[lime star]

I'm at 46k and 70 pity

[tranquil vale]

Since a valk is 80+ pulls, I can't.

[lime star]

Skipping because I fear of 8.2

[tranquil vale]

Let's see if I can't avoid RL while not being able to retain

[lime star]

How many points?

[tranquil vale]

Holding 3200 trophies

[lime star]

You are fine

I have 3k trophies

[tranquil vale]

That's nice

[lime star]

I take it back, I'll demote

4 dudu abyss 1 sparkle abyss

And that's still week 4

[tranquil vale]

Otto to start the patch but the friday of next week will be worse

[ember locust]

LMFAO True

[ember locust]

Which bosses ?

[tranquil vale]

The LoA abyss is a slacc. Aponia is coming back in 3 weeks. S3 Hare hopefully.

[tranquil vale]

It's pinned

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia though the new ult should've ended with the arrow from because of you instead of that random cutoff white screen and since hoh is getting a a dk does this mean my investment into hoh ranks turned out to be a good thing since mines is ss2 compared to the new waves of S2/SS/SS1

[main goblet]

are these the previous theme/animal for the last cny years??!?!??!? so cool

[muted mauve]

it's the chinese zodiac

[gleaming imp]

@abstract night I'm definitely pulling 8.1 now since it has hoh dk

I probably won't go for hoh stamps from spending event and only focus on 4S kiaelf since or go for 2s elyelf since ss3 iirc for hoh is just leader skill boost and hofin dk iirc just changed the leader skill so no point going for its rank

Since I'm going for kiana and Ely dk that means I'll have elys best is slot team of Ely kiana vita

And since my Ely is ss2 she'll be ahead of the curve of the other elys on her boss, adv investment good real?

[main goblet]

ur not pulling next patch? tf u mean adv

[gleaming imp]

Oh yeah since new stigma set does that mean old Ely set will get updated like hofin old set?

[main goblet]

well with dkey yeah since it needs to buff her p2 mechanic

[feral epoch]

replaced

[noble cobalt]

An yes, my favorite WoD Valk

[gleaming imp]

I got my hoh from adv on 7.6, my hoh is ss2 so my Ely has more ranks than the average Ely haver

[ember locust]

I tend to say the opposite

Best Ely's team is litterally WoD

If DPS

[gleaming imp]

At least I'll have kianas

[ember locust]

Although Vita and HoHe will be used in Kiana's team

[steep axle]

ill have 3 kianas in a team

[gleaming imp]

And I can just use Ely kiana vita since thelbad and lampbad since no nostalgia appeal

[steep axle]

ill get uh

[abstract night]

U got HoH gear just for it to be irrelevent
Funny

[steep axle]

either ely stamps or elf from spending

they should add gacha cards back to spendign

i miss pulling to get more pulls

[gleaming imp]

It's okay since nostalgia but I'm excited for Ely dk so much, my queen will have a return to meta

[abstract night]

Ig

Ill probably pull dudu

[steep axle]

i got dudu first 10

[abstract night]

If hoh can support dudu well

[steep axle]

i have 6k

[main goblet]

not going for new kiana? don't tell me you'll wait for her rerun?

[steep axle]

should i get dudu weapon

[main goblet]

how far are you from getting all 1 time crystals sources?

[gleaming imp]

So far for 8.1 my shopping list is kiana, kiana weapon, Ely dk, eepy teri weapon should I do 50% off multi on smol dudu

[rain isle]

Oh I noticed that as well

[steep axle]

ive been playing for 4 years

[rain isle]

Text error lol

[tulip sparrow]

Is hohe dkey really needed
Or nah

[steep axle]

but i didnt do part 2 story

[abstract night]

Why not

[rain isle]

If you wanna use Ellie more then ye

[main goblet]

u can if you're not close to the guarantee

[steep axle]

build pity

[abstract night]

Does hofi have new ring?

[gleaming imp]

On it

[steep axle]

my friend was building pity on 2 other hoyo games and both ended bad

[main goblet]

i don't think that would be enough for new kiana and ellie dk, i say save for now

[steep axle]

so nothing can go wrong

[steep axle]

i will get 900 day login reward next week

15 pink tickets

[main goblet]

no hofi didn't get any new updates

[abstract night]

Haha

[main goblet]

well you do need 145 (5 from discount) pulls + 60 pulls worse case scenario so

[abstract night]

U can cope... with dudu vita coralie

[gleaming imp]

Dudu bad, also did half off multi and didn't get her thankfully

[steep axle]

does dudu vita kiana work

[abstract night]

Then whyd u do it

[main goblet]

well now u have 5 free pulls

[gleaming imp]

To build pity

[steep axle]

build pity

[abstract night]

Delulu

[main goblet]

i also did the discount pull and got no dudu so ill just save for now
had i got her i would of went to get her weapon

[gleaming imp]

Pity and funds so far for new kiana and weapon and Ely dk and eepy teri weapon

[steep axle]

23 is crazy

[feral epoch]

why no teri ao mentioned

[abstract night]

U need 3k more xtals to guarrantee (hard pity)
Teri wep (why??)
HoH dkey
Kiana
Kiana wep

[steep axle]

i will try to get dudu weapon but maybe ill try to use forgeable weapon first

[feral epoch]

you shouldn't

[gleaming imp]

AOP teriteri bait easy skip

[steep axle]

i used vita with forgeable weapon for a month

[feral epoch]

but nostalgia

[gleaming imp]

I would rather use 4S kiaelf instead

[main goblet]

but where's the """"""nostalgia""""""" part?!?!?!??!?

[steep axle]

its better than HoT bruteforce with 0/4 eden and fischl

[supple lake]

ely is back omg

[gleaming imp]

She'll probably be added to a spending event in the future no point pulling

[steep axle]

also a3 feels like rl

someone took my place as 1st in like last 2 hours of abyss

[abstract night]

So will kiana

[gleaming imp]

Difference between a Valk and AoP

[abstract night]

So will hoh dkey

[steep axle]

free HoF when

[gleaming imp]

Difference between a DK and a AoP

[abstract night]

Which one

[feral epoch]

the moment you get p2 s rank valks, you should pull their weapon. or they won't have maximum potential

[steep axle]

HoF

[feral epoch]

they won't

[steep axle]

im on a3

also rl players should be skipping dudu rn

[abstract night]

Which one??

[steep axle]

the HoF one

[abstract night]

theres 3 (4)
Which one

[steep axle]

one with outfit

[feral epoch]

then you didn't need to ask about should you pull their weapon

[abstract night]

Add the 4th letter

[steep axle]

i will do 1 10 pull for weapob

[abstract night]

HoFi
HotF
HoFs
Herrscher of Fire

[steep axle]

i am NOT adding that 4th letter ive been telling everyone that since 5.0 or smth

[abstract night]

Which one

In 5.0 there was 2 3

[steep axle]

one that i dont have

[verbal mountain]

breath you are really special

[main goblet]

and whos "hotf"?

[abstract night]

Hawk of the fog

[verbal mountain]

it is hofs if you are actually wondering

[feral epoch]

fu hua

[main goblet]

i see

[abstract night]

Ty

[steep axle]

my HoF cny outfit waiting to be used since the day i got it

[abstract night]

No clue

[supple lake]

SSS hohe will see the light once again

[gleaming imp]

Since Ely is getting DK that means adv good since investment in ranks good and mines is SS2

[abstract night]

Why didnt u get her in that spending event.

[steep axle]

i have s2 ely

[feral epoch]

others SSS already

[steep axle]

i have no idea actually

its been so long i forgot what i got then

also i probably didnt have a 44k with me

[main goblet]

atp just pull new valks

[verbal mountain]

what do you need ranks for in rl

[abstract night]

I picked HoFs and nyx stamp

[gleaming imp]

F2Ps would only have SS at best atm, with spending event stamps SS1 so mines better still by one rank

[distant lagoon]

you won´t get one for her because she had one already.

[abstract night]

Wdym at best

[steep axle]

i have s2 as f2p

[verbal mountain]

s0 on release + free copy + supply shop stamps is ss yea

[abstract night]

I didnt get her on release

[supple lake]

plus BP

[verbal mountain]

paid

but yea that too

[abstract night]

Thats 40 frags at most (or 10)

[supple lake]

nah it had chips in it

plus the few from leveling

[abstract night]

Oh wtv

[verbal mountain]

ss1 if you got at least knight bp

[steep axle]

i have yet to get a single bp

maybe i will one day

[ember locust]

For Nirv

[verbal mountain]

drya's ass is not making it to nirv for a while unless he spins his whole account around

[lime star]

So, lattern is dethroned from kasumi

[gleaming imp]

I don't want nirv, I like my hair

[verbal mountain]

then why do you get ranks for rl

get supports

[steep axle]

rl so bad i can retain it

[gleaming imp]

Because ranks shiny and everyone is a support

[verbal mountain]

ok

[feral epoch]

everyone is a support for p2 valks, you should pull them all

[ember locust]

Might be, we need beta updates

[lime star]

I doubt lattern would outdamage most people's hohe

Both are Psy, kasumi is equally weak to ice and fire

[feral epoch]

they will be in the same team anw

[verbal mountain]

most people's hohe are ss+ and lantern's already losing bosses at s0 (stellar rpc)

[gleaming imp]

I have when 8.1 drops, senawho, corabad, vita, hofin dk, herrscher trio, hoo dps, new kiana, Ely with dk, and for starless I have horb, and hoo, and mobius

[ember locust]

The irony is Hoyo recommending Lantern in HoHe's DK team lmfaooo

Meme time

[gleaming imp]

Lamp lost to vita on my bracket on rpc

[lime star]

Idk the playstyle, I feel like Senadina is better here

[naive zinc]

wait is there going to be artbook war next ver

since anni yk

[feral epoch]

no info

[verbal mountain]

no idea

we just got cn info, gonna be a while for glblul

[main goblet]

you shouldn't be trusting hoyo's team suggestions if you see their ingame guides....

[feral epoch]

thel + lantern is good for wod fast rotation

[lime star]

Watch P2 Ely gear making P1 sushang DPS for starless

[gleaming imp]

When do we get the info for like what the new patch comes with like new g4 stigmata added to forge and and a WT update etc

[ember locust]

Yes and no, beta might be suffice

[feral epoch]

tomorrow if no delay

[gleaming imp]

Also just want to say rq that aponia is so 🛐 @abstract night

[verbal mountain]

for artbooks?

why would cn get another artbook event?

[ember locust]

No to get infos

[verbal mountain]

i was talking about artbooks

[ember locust]

Crap I made a mistake in pings

[ember locust]

That's mainly for MA, they seem to have upgraded their advices in Abyss

[feral epoch]

no for older abyss weather

[shrewd socket]

is Kiana currently viable for beginners if they don't have any P2 S rank nor HoHe?

[gleaming imp]

I need 18 cubes for kiana weapon and Ely dk

[main goblet]

can't agree, some of the teams are...
well for the raven boss i saw thelema, sena and Coralie that doesn't look updated

[north karma]

Did live stream happen

[main goblet]

dev video in pins

[rotund ravine]

well Dudu recommended team was Vita/SQ

[north karma]

Sweet

[rotund ravine]

and Sparkle turned out to be her bis

so..

[feral epoch]

thank you for the reminder

[north karma]

LMAO A NEW DIVINE KEY

mihoyo you mfs

[gleaming imp]

A new player should be able to get kiana and hoh from spending event most likely if she's the spending event Valk

[north karma]

And its for hohe too

100% calculated

[abstract night]

I picked ss2 4/4 nyx and 6* DK over aponia stamps

[verbal mountain]

i doubt she is

[feral epoch]

what if new divine key every cny/anni patch

[verbal mountain]

why would they give out a free copy of her 2 patches before

[north karma]

Fuck no

1 a year maybe

Its only been 6 months

[gleaming imp]

To bait the cyrene/new wave of Ely simps from hsr

By bait I mean to bait them into playing this game

[verbal mountain]

i really doubt they're doing hoh spending event valk tho

[ember locust]

She's definitly gotta be the one, seeing the current situation she's 100% getting at least stamps

[feral epoch]

to compensate double release valks old ways

[verbal mountain]

yea stamps probably

but i feel like she wouldn't be given out for free a couple of patches before if she was main spending

[north karma]

Gonna be baiting everyone lol

[rotund ravine]

its gonna be HoRb or Luna I think

[ember locust]

Huuh that's a good question... I don't remember how it was for HoS when she was given for free, also same for HoFi (except she wasn't free)

But HoFi was not given and had both stamps and chara choice in the last spending

[feral epoch]

she should've been free not "free"

[ember locust]

So might be the case for Elysia too if she's 100% in the same case as HoFi

For DK release

[frigid cave]

will hohe be meta in 8.1? with her dk

[main goblet]

unless they put a random valk and make the outfit in the spending event theirs
ig like 7.3 with aponia

[feral epoch]

my waxing moon has no user

[north karma]

Kiana looks so good

[north karma]

Yea

Kiana animations and theming so nice

Damn

Wish i could get my hands on her now

Ely animations so good too

[main goblet]

enjoy 6 weeks of saving and waiting

[feral epoch]

hope she doesn't have clunky controls

[north karma]

I dont like dkeys tho

[ember locust]

Definitely gonna be the case, from the news she's WoD but supports LoA (Heavenly Shift) and WoD (Shadow Star)

[north karma]

Yeah

Dkeys are fomo turned up to 11

[frigid cave]

so this team is accurate for kiana best team?

[north karma]

Wanted a ice p2 so i guess we got that

[main goblet]

i see from the dev video that one of her attacks lets u hit different parts of the screen like Susannah's ult hmmm

[main goblet]

its hoyo recommendation but i would suggest that u let ppl in beta test it first

since it can be boss dependant

[frigid cave]

when is the beta?

[main goblet]

around tomorrow ish
but even with that u should give it time for ppl to experiment

[ember locust]

They used the animations from the CG "Because of You" for the ult, it's freaking insane

[shrewd socket]

assuming she isn't then

[main goblet]

at least the current info gives us a good estimate for how much crystals one should save

[ember locust]

Might be, but Hoyo sometimes gave wrong advice for teams.... So we have to get more infos from Wyverin and Marisa once the open betas comes out. But seeing how the teams are in this pic... Might be accurate

Not sure but might be

[gleaming imp]

If she isn't then yeah you definitely wouldn't go for her dkey since no Ely to use it on

[frigid cave]

will hofi ever come back 🙏

[gleaming imp]

So far answer is no, no adv rerun in sight

[ember locust]

That's 2 reps now : Thelema + Ely

[shrewd socket]

where were you during 7.8

[ember locust]

Nope, unless they give her for free OR ADV reruns

[frigid cave]

i started in 7.9 😢

what happened in 7.8

[main carbon]

Anything about spending yet guys ._?

[ember locust]

Since it's a Part 1 banner, her character banner will never come back

[frigid cave]

i just really like design even if she isnt meta

[main goblet]

at the least one can say
cny kiana best teammates is 2 from:
sparkle, hohe (dk), vita, que, dudu
sparkle being fire and que being sd may be relevant
hohe (dk) teams are 2 from:
sena, vita, thelema, lantern, que, teri(?)
at least one of sena/vita will be relevant
maybe thelema will be relevant too

[ember locust]

We need to wait for more accurate infos, but we can speculate about HoHe or HoHe's stamps being in the spending event shop

[main goblet]

remind me if i forgot someone

[ember locust]

Sena might be out, we got the info that Kiana has Sena's tag

From Marisa

[main goblet]

but new kiana doesn't have the tag to support wod?

[shrewd socket]

what about Kiana

[main carbon]

That's a given I guess, what about part 2 astralops, any chance of that ._?

[ember locust]

Vita could be used, so is Que

[main carbon]

I think it's about time really

[main goblet]

new kiana can support her own tag, ??? and ws
for ws we have sena, teri, sparkle

[main goblet]

we'll just wait for testing
for wod sena can still be used

[frigid cave]

so if my only gacha valk is vita so far i assume kiana will be my next must pull

[main goblet]

just depends on the team

and enemy

[main goblet]

consider farming for 8.1 for now

ill also wait so see if dudu is relevant for new kiana

[ember locust]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6cA0OuCR4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J2XGoON5gNA

That's all we have so far

[main goblet]

depending if the new enemy got shieldbreak

[frigid cave]

does the dkey run as an equipment supply or what?

[main goblet]

as a normal p2 weapon

however reruns are unknown

[ember locust]

Sena is not an option in Wyverin's video for Kiana @main goblet

[main goblet]

waxing moon haven't rerun yet

[ember locust]

Neither she is for HoHe

[main goblet]

not for new kiana no

[halcyon sparrow]

I'M SO MAD WTF PLS TELL ME I CAN GET HOHE IN 8.1 FOR FREE

[main goblet]

but she can still be an option for hohe
I'll just wait to see if vita would make up for it because there's no testing yet

[ember locust]

Sparkle might be an option for Kiana

[main goblet]

i just need someone to remind me if eepy teri got the shadow tag to support wod

[north karma]

[ember locust]

She has it

[main goblet]

good to know

[ember locust]

Hence why she's also an option for HoHe DK

[north karma]

My f2p account is so screwed

[supple lake]

ill prob use ss bita and thel for hohe supports

[ember locust]

I feel it too

[main goblet]

time to waste ur life in returnee supply (don't do it)

[halcyon sparrow]

is hohe free in 8.1???

[north karma]

No thel no latern 100% cope

Also

Now dkey isnt ROo

[main goblet]

no info yet
but she'll get a dk and new stigmatas

[north karma]

God they are just ducking making any new Roo its hilarious

[halcyon sparrow]

fuck, i was on vacation and didn't do the event

[main goblet]

😭

i now need to know about the outfits

[north karma]

9.3 hss 9.4 new ar

9.5 roo

[main goblet]

10.9999 bio valk

[pallid cosmos]

10 eos

[main goblet]

11 crying patch

[north karma]

Bio? Whats that

[shrewd socket]

[main goblet]

its hoyo's evil twin shhhhh

[north karma]

Hofi dkey skippers in absolute shambles

[main goblet]

can't relate

[supple lake]

wow you can use 2 kiana suits to support world star

[north karma]

Watch i say and 8.2 is roo or 8.1 hofin rerun

[supple lake]

thats funny

[shrewd socket]

if HoHe is on spending shop, newbies could go for Kiana + dkey and use Kiana HoHe Coralie...

[north karma]

Massive assumption there

[shrewd socket]

but if she isn't they would have to do Kiana Coralie Helia until new LoA/valk with heaven shift tag

[north karma]

Hoyoverse is not that generous would be best but wont put it past them

[main goblet]

tbh a newbie from 7.9 or this patch can afford for kiana/dudu (lead), dudu/kiana, ellie if hohe can be obtained in some way
if not then kiana, dudu, coralie
or dudu, kiana, coralie

[ember locust]

Gonna be fine or cooked for 8.1 (going for both Kiana and Elysia DK) ?

[north karma]

Coralie carrying team comps

[main goblet]

fr

[frigid cave]

is kiana/dudu recommended though?

[versed garden]

You're good

[shrewd socket]

they newbie in my scheme is a returnee who came back in the last days of 7.9

so they have to skip dudu

[ember locust]

104 + 27 + 9 (10 with the BP from 8.0) eh eh eh = 141 pulls rn

[main goblet]

dudu is fine but is overshadowed by 8.1 for ppl that can't afford
kiana is probably gonna be good or cny will flop....

[ember locust]

Plus dorm pulls

[gleaming imp]

Just save up and you'll have enough remember there's also the lottery crystals for freebie crystals

[main goblet]

oh my yeah they'll skip if they don't have enough

[versed garden]

That's close to guarantee for Kiana
And you have at least 15k for this patch not including the raffle crystals
enough to hard pity everything tbh

don't forget the extra 4 weeks banner duration as well if you're unsure

[main goblet]

keep in mind the freebies in this and next patch
also story + events + etc

[mossy nimbus]

what will ely dkey best team be

[north karma]

No idea

[ember locust]

That's why I'm hoping for crystal, BP Paladin and Figurine in the Raffle

[shrewd socket]

then idk what to recommend them
I just told to save for Kiana

[ember locust]

Yes

[mossy nimbus]

im so excited to use her again i hope vita and thelema is good or something like that

[main goblet]

yeah let them save for now
beta will be around b4 dudu supply ends

[ember locust]

How much later Kiana's DK released compared to Vita ?

[north karma]

[ember locust]

In the patch I mean

[versed garden]

it was first 2 weeks of patch

[main goblet]

@mossy nimbus just know that there's no info yet but these are a possibility

[mild owl]

finally a use for my 23x2s

[north karma]

Running out of copium

[versed garden]

Tbh you can get enough to hard pity everything before the patch even starts (talking to Art)

[ember locust]

OK that's early

[ember locust]

I don't mind pings dw

[main goblet]

iirc in 7.8 both started together but dk supply ended sooner
vita alr got a rerun but no hofi dk yet

[cedar pagoda]

why save for 8.1?

[gleaming imp]

Because 8.1 offers more than 8.0

[ember locust]

Lmfao true : 6 rotations of ER, double the number for Abyss + the story to do + the raffle event (guaranteed 400) + the next maintenance for 8.1 + Dailies + Adventures and Expeditions if lucky

And I have quite a lot of valks to upgrade in ER mode (that gives 600 crystals each for leveling up to LV15)

[main goblet]

8.1 lands in Chinese new year and global anniversary
also we'll get a valk that will likely be pretty good and a divine key for hohe (that can support new ring)
also both new kiana and hohe dkey have a tag for yet another ???
there's teri aop and some outfits that will be available in some way next patch

[cedar pagoda]

ah ok

CN new years patch

[north karma]

Did they reveal the battlepass

[gleaming imp]

I look forward to the 8.1 freebies

[ember locust]

Not yet but we're still in the HoTr-Hare cycle

[main goblet]

not yet

[north karma]

Oki

[main goblet]

expect to see info in a few days

[north karma]

Yeah

[main goblet]

gtg now

[small wing]

wow do we just seriously have nothing left to do in 8.0 till the event starts next week

[north karma]

Bye

[north karma]

You sit and argue about something

[golden comet]

Do we know elysia's and kiana's best current teammates already?

[golden comet]

Wait is chap 7 not out yet either

[small wing]

it is

but i finished it

[gleaming imp]

Elys is thelema and lamp, kiana is Ely and vita according to hoyo

[golden comet]

Thank god

[north karma]

Bro speedran it

Wow

I know we dont have full info

But is teri op worth pulling

[golden comet]

Well

If you're pulling new kiana the answer is probably yes

[gleaming imp]

As a f2p answer is always no

Just use SS DS

[muted mauve]

We only know 1 thing it does.
Give the Law Of Ascenscion team leader a extra enhanced QTE

[north karma]

Damn they streching us tight this patch

[distant lagoon]

from the LoA gameplay actually a big thing

[mossy nimbus]

is senadina gonna have any topscores after this kiana releases or are they intended for element specific stardust content and not general stardust stages

[hasty cedar]

we dunno new kiana’s kit

[north karma]

Isnt it phys? Is it that good for kiana

[mossy nimbus]

oh is the beta not out

[golden comet]

Absolutely
Unless mei in 8.2 beta I'm going to try both valks

[north karma]

Not f2p kek but i made a f2p acc

I should really ask for a sensei

[rustic stump]

Now that Ely has a DK, is it possible that Fu Hua or HoRb might get DKs?

[golden comet]

They could still get entirely new battlesuits in the future

[still condor]

FoV isn't a herrscher smh

[rustic stump]

So

[rustic stump]

Fu Hua’a recent suit came out early last year though

[golden comet]

True

[verbal mountain]

very possible

but we dunno when and if they do

[golden comet]

We really don't have a way to know

[gleaming imp]

If they decide to not do a p2 fu hua then fov would be likely to get a DK after horb gets one eventually

[verbal mountain]

we don't have a year worth of insight to the future

[ember locust]

Hua is not really gonna get a DK, although HoRb has a chance, HoTr also has a fair chance

[verbal mountain]

i mean they made a dkey for hofi and then a new battlesuit

[verbal mountain]

how do u know?

[gleaming imp]

Current bronya in story is sw

[golden comet]

Hotr definitely has a chance

[gleaming imp]

No hotruth anymore

[ember locust]

Might be speculation but only 3 bs being no herrschers ever got a DK

They're all dead and old valks from 4.X or less

[gleaming imp]

VKE and dudu, who's the other one?

[verbal mountain]

still a possibility for them to give dkey

[ember locust]

Sakura Rondo, Teri Teri

[verbal mountain]

but we dunno

[gleaming imp]

Oh right that is a dk

[golden comet]

Well even if she won't get a dk it's probably just a matter of time until a new hua battlesuit

[ember locust]

Tbh if they follow what they currently do for DK, they won't touch Hua nor Luna

[gleaming imp]

And I will SS that fu hua

I missed fov due to poor timing

[rustic stump]

I still believe and cope that she’ll get a DK

As for a possible HoRb DK, I wonder what the SO would be like or how the jump button would function

Oh well 🤷🏾‍♀️

[untold ibex]

okay, lemme ask here... what am i supposed to do this version... at all? i heard CNY is coming, is durandal worth summoning now?
etc... and tips?

[acoustic moth]

Manifesting senti’s 3rd coming, she deserves an astral ring or new battlesuit

[versed garden]

If you can guarantee dudu and 8.1, you can pull dudu, otherwise I'd recommend a skip since anni i.e spending event + new dkey release as well next patch

[untold ibex]

shouldn't cny be this patch? i'm not sure, but i think cny is in less than one month

[versed garden]

cny is 8.1

[untold ibex]

isn't cny... good?

[golden comet]

Was the first ten pull dudu I just got a sign to pull new senti😭

[versed garden]

yes?

[untold ibex]

sorry you might notice i have no idea what will happen, like what is cny, lots of presents or does it involve spending resources or... ? i'm currently at 37k

ah wait i got it now 🤣 sorry, NOW we have 8.0, next version is then CNY and you said also anniversary?

[versed garden]

anniversary for glb, CNY for CN

[untold ibex]

oh so cny is cn only... which kinda makes sense, but... does that mean global doesn't have any new year stuff?

[versed garden]

we get it as well

[gleaming imp]

Small durandal bait easy skip just pull new Kiana and ely dk instead

[untold ibex]

meh... skippinv valks always hurts... but i'm "just" at 37k so i guess no way i can manage everything XD

[gleaming imp]

True, that’s why you should pull Kiana and ely dk to get spending event bonuses on top

[untold ibex]

and they come both in 8.1 then?

[supple lake]

yes

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[untold ibex]

ok then, guess i'll at least do the free pulls for dura and then let it be

meh... guess i'll go into a 1-month coma then

[mossy nimbus]

is there any chance or pattern that indicates hohe will be in WT in 8.1

[astral elk]

Dunno if it counts as "cn gameplay" discussion but since it's from the new CN Kiana suit video I'm gonna post it here, does anyone have any idea who the character in the concept design on this dudes monitor is? doesn't look like kiana that much to me

[untold ibex]

btw i have a 25 pity now 🤣 #badluck

[muted mauve]

It is Kiana

[gleaming imp]

You have Kiana and weapon and ely dk pratically guranteed at least now by the time the patch drops

[untold ibex]

that's a good thing ❤️

is it that guaranteed that i can now go for dura? 😛

[gleaming imp]

No, if you go for Dudu you won’t have enough

[untold ibex]

damnit

[muted mauve]

It's Snake Girl Kiana. Clearly a scrapped design.

[distant lagoon]

but definitely really good for artbook vol. 4

[plain veldt]

we still have no artbook 3

[smoky lintel]

Cn did

[plain veldt]

we = EU

[distant lagoon]

we probably gonna get it in 8.1 but we have to wait a month for a potential announcement

[smoky lintel]

Ye but who know if we even get art book 3. so when this design will be in something it will be art book 4

[plain veldt]

it's impossible

artbook 4 should include content of this year

[twin dune]

Is there any info on the full buffs of ely dkey?

[twin dune]

We ll prob. Get it in march on our anni

[solar cliff]

With ely dkey confirmed to be in 8.1, does that mean waxing moon rerun wont be in 8.1 giga sadge

[twin dune]

We don t know that. It might be sandwhiches in the same banner who knows

No cuz then they would have to put iskandar

Ehh who knows maybe in the part after the main character banner ends

[solar cliff]

Could be here’s to hopium

[twin dune]

I m debating wether i go for kiana + weapon which i can barely guarantee if the gods are nice
Or divine key on elysia and save crystals

[twin dune]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bungou-stray-dogs-odasaku-gif-22091629

[solar cliff]

I would grab dkey first, the character banner will probably stay for 28 days while the dkey will be less probably like the vita + waxing moon senario, in that case pull dkey first especially now that we see how long it’s taking them to rerun dkey, unlike vita whose rerun we got next patch

I personally have 50 pulls and my pity on both weapon and character are pretty low so with skipping this patch I hope I will have enough for both, also the patch is cny so there’s probably some good rewards to be had

[twin dune]

Oh i will have 14k crystals from abyss er and dailies by the end of doodoo patch. I m praying cny gives me at least 5 multis before the banners end

Cuz then i might aswell go for dkey and then kiana and get her weapon later

[solar cliff]

50 pulls is quite a lot but considering it’s cny you that’s possible ig also there’s raffle this patch, you may get lucky

[twin dune]

I doubt. I m praying just 9k crystals from the raffle and i d be the happiest

If i get that i can guarantee elysia and kiana

As for kiana gun? Idk i ll just complete the curse of none of your kianas have a weapon

[solar cliff]

Anyone would be ecstatic if they get 9k I think

[twin dune]

The max is 18k. Imagine getting 18k that just guarantees your dket

Dkey

[solar cliff]

The hopium is hard on this one lol

[frank raven]

Hoping for 3k from the Raffle that should get me up to 40k by the end of the patch

[solar cliff]

How many xtalz are we getting this patch is?

[twin dune]

14k events not included

[frank raven]

Yeah pretty good amount

[solar cliff]

So with events we are looking at about 17k no ?

[twin dune]

Hopefully?

Google s done the math

[frank raven]

Hopefully.

[twin dune]

Made for ag3 btw

[frank raven]

Mines lookin alot like this

[solar cliff]

Link ?

[frank raven]

https://honkaihub.com/calculator

[solar cliff]

I am about 30k when converting cards (apart from dorm ofc)

But I am 38 pity on character and 17 on weapon so also 17 on astral op

If I get 6k from raffle I should be able to get everything on day one so I am good ig

[frank raven]

Truly

[verbal mountain]

did we get anims of hoh's stellar shift?

[final locust]

OMG

OMG MY WIFE IS GETTING A DKEY

HAR HAR HAR

i wonder if ingame recs are her real supports tho

[final locust]

no

[gleaming imp]

Just use Kiana vita or vita hofin and call it a day

[final locust]

why is there another ??? ring tho anyone know what it could be

[gleaming imp]

Just do Kiana vita

[final locust]

ew her new stigs are ugly wtf

[muted mauve]

Because there's still 8 rings to release

[abstract night]

I like them

[final locust]

you are a lore reader do you know what it could be or is it totally random

[final locust]

ofc u do

why is there a ginger on my pink wife's stigs

[abstract night]

I want HoHs dkey.

[final locust]

thales sneak too get it OUT

[mild owl]

yeah they should have a picture of her instead

[abstract night]

Elysia pristine
Elysia
Elysia: 3*

[mild owl]

honestly every stig in the game should be ely but we cant have it all

[final locust]

real

[final locust]

YOU KNOW

YOU KNOW!!!!! YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!! YOU GET IT

everything in the game should just be elysia tbh

elysia impact 3rd i want it

[edgy drift]

Tbh, it's kinda funny because all P2 stigs are pretty much just "Vita:", "Sparkle:" etc

Except the 2 dkeys that go back to old stigma designs with historical figures

[final locust]

this one its thales 2.0 get this ginger bitch off my screen

[edgy drift]

when their original sets were "Kiana:" and "Elysia:"

[final locust]

like who tf is iskandar

get it away its giving tribbie
ugly

[edgy drift]

uncultured smh

[small wing]

[small wing]

please tell me this is /j

[final locust]

its not

[edgy drift]

Just one of the greatest to ever live

[small wing]

[final locust]

what

[small wing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great

[muted mauve]

I know the look of most of them and their constellation name and for some even their location.
But anything gameplay related is impossible to know.

Maybe next powered duo will tell us since current one was enhanced QTE based

[final locust]

ohhhhh ive never heard him be called iskandar

[still condor]

the fate series calls him iskandar apparently

[final locust]

oh my god

i do NOT watch anime dude

[mild owl]

looks like the persian variant of the name

[edgy drift]

Alexander is the western version of the name

[small wing]

yeah iskandar is just what the persians called him

[edgy drift]

Iskandar/Iskander is closer to the persian

[final locust]

never heard of iskandar or iskander

only alexander the great

im american what do u expect

[edgy drift]

muricans only know murica

[still condor]

what the fuck is a kilometer

[final locust]

1000 meters

[small wing]

[final locust]

i got hectometer and kilometer confused for a sec

[small wing]

we'll find out tomorrow when open beta finally comes out

real question is if her dkey will finally make playing hohe not feel completely poopy

[final locust]

now a question for you non-muricans, what the fuck is an acre

[small wing]

this is a question for everyone cause americans don't know what an acre is either

[edgy drift]

we also have that but idt it's the same one

[still condor]

im american and i dont know what an acre is

[final locust]

oh i know what an acre is

its 43 thousand something square feet

[mild owl]

isnt the american ton also different

[full iris]

why not just say square feet man

why make it so complicated

[final locust]

2000 pounds

[full iris]

also why the fuck are we talking about this

[solar cliff]

He is called that in many cultures, in egypt he is iskandar and the city he built is called iskandareya which is known in english as alexandria

[final locust]

because itd be a lot longer of a sentence to say "oh yeah, that farmer owns 1,306,800 square feet of land"

[full iris]

makes sense

[final locust]

instead you just say he owns 30 acres

and even if you dont know how big an acre is to the T you understand thats a lot of land

[solar cliff]

Yes but damn why are murican units conversions so bad like a yard is 3 feet, then a foot is 12 inches ? Why not just make it easy

[dense harness]

best news ever, sweety Elysia is SS1

now, i reallllly gotta have at least 60 pulls in 8.1

[cinder lodge]

helia coralie do this too

[dense harness]

no more pull on Dudu

[restive rose]

Fun fact 12 is a fantastic number esp in construction bc it’s divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6

3 is the important one here ig bc nobody wants to talk ab 33.33333 cm or whatever

[edgy drift]

same reason we use 60 for minutes/seconds

and 12/24 for hours

[restive rose]

12 is a better number than 10

[dry delta]

dude i really wish they'd change hohe's outburst thing

ADD THE BIG LADY SHOOTING ARROW DONT END IT AT THE GLASS PAINTING

its such a tease

[edgy drift]

they'd better add a skip button to go with it

trio ult was already enough of an annoyance to wait through

[small wing]

I'm just wondering what HoHe is gonna need to do as a support

All hofi needs to do for her support stuff is use her wep skill and that's it

[mild owl]

idc about support, im bruteforcing dps until i reach a2

[edgy drift]

WoD support, prolly some qte + weap stuff and prolly not great at it
LoA support, might go the songque way and shoot out a big feesh every qte

[dry delta]

same thing for hohe ig

hohe weap = hohe support abilities

i dont see why it would be different

[small wing]

Oh God do I really have to roll Teri AOP

[dry delta]

yup.

[edgy drift]

because different characters work differently and support different things, shocker

[small wing]

An extra stellar shift is huge compared to the other AOPs

[gleaming imp]

But ult shiny

[dry delta]

yeah but its a weap making her astral outburst support
So like

must be weap activating support abilities too

[small wing]

We'll just have to see if I have enough crystals for SS Teri after 4/4ing Kiana and hohe

[edgy drift]

HFi is generic rite of oblivion : has to work with everything
HoH is specialized : only works with some things

[small wing]

[edgy drift]

the weap adds new skills on the valk, they can trigger from anything they want

[dry delta]

eh we'll see

i jus thope they change the animation

[dense harness]

i have no Thel unless raffle is generous with me but Elysia all the way, never skipping her

[dry delta]

pls its such a tease

[edgy drift]

they won't

[dry delta]

pls its too ughh its shit!! add the big elysia shooting an arrow that makes so much more sense

u cant do this to mee

[still condor]

they should make HoH ult play the entire Because of You animation every time with no toggle to turn it off

[edgy drift]

If it's all it does with lower dmg buffs, it's the same as more dmg but needing an extra atk for it

[dry delta]

yes i suppor this

Let Ego Consume You

[small wing]

We'll find out tomorrow after beta release ig

[edgy drift]

ye

and either way, you won't have to

the diff between aop or no aop in their dedicated teams is already pretty big, Teri will most likely be around the same

[dry delta]

change animatino

[small wing]

ig

idk an extra stellar shift just feels like such a major boost in comparison to the 2 other SAOPs

[edgy drift]

as I said above, if her numbers are just lower next to it it ends up being similar

except you need time for the extra dmg even

or if you don't get extra Ari from her

[edgy drift]

It is strong for sure, but they can balance it with other levers to be around the same lvl as the others

[spice summit]

What’s the best team for shadow and symphony abyss

[edgy drift]

tho it could also just be stupid op broken

[small wing]

i feel like symphony is gonna be thelsenalamp

[spice summit]

Yeah I’m cooked then

[edgy drift]

Shadow RPC is Lantern (or thelema but mostly lantern)
Symphony Hellmaru is thelema (with Sena possible too)

[muted mauve]

Don't care if it's weak. Being able to play rythm games twice with Kiana in 1 rotation is worth it.

[spice summit]

What the fuck why all thelema

[small wing]

excuse moi

[edgy drift]

we osu now

[spice summit]

Teri and sparkle are so cooked

[small wing]

they still got their weathers

we should worry more for lamp if anything

[solar cliff]

Does it have to be ss for the 2 stellar shifts ?

[edgy drift]

lamp is dead, rest in peace lamp

[small wing]

[edgy drift]

that's why they give her stuf right now, it's her las chance

[final locust]

is teri aop the first aop that you "need"?? second stellar shift sounds absolutely massive

[edgy drift]

no, also we don't know shit yet

[final locust]

marisa post says she allows for a second stellar shift

[edgy drift]

yeah, and if that's the only thing she does it's bad

[final locust]

well obv it wont be

[edgy drift]

so ergo, we don't know shit yet

[final locust]

i think im gonna get her
skipping 8.0 so hard

[edgy drift]

imagine missing a valk for an aop

[final locust]

well i cant pull 8.0 regardless

[edgy drift]

for all we know that's the SSS skill too

[small wing]

remember

Ely also has stellar shift

[final locust]

isnt she WoD? or she supports LoA too?

[small wing]

so if you skip 8.0 that's 2 LOA valks ready for the future

[edgy drift]

she has LoA and ??? tag

[final locust]

i also have songque

and vita

[final locust]

but kiana will be my only LoA dps

[final locust]

oh they futureproofed her tooooooo mother is back

[edgy drift]

I mean, she could be garbage at it

[solar cliff]

Is it confirmed to be so or you that it could be like that ?

[final locust]

she wont

[dense harness]

i have 47 left on valk, 54 on weap, i wil 100% save my pulls for new Ely dKey, and save the rest for i hope a dudu rerun, i have 245 cristals (tomorow i get 600 days log in so 10 valk pulls)

[small wing]

Kiana is futureproofed as well

[edgy drift]

we don't know shit

[gleaming imp]

Lampbad she’s already losing at S0 to vita on RPC

[small wing]

YOU'RE KIDDINGF

[final locust]

S0 lamp is also extremely shit

[final locust]

nope its real im pretty sure

[mild owl]

the rest go to s3 you mean

[edgy drift]

well not the RPC that we have next week

[final locust]

hohe will blow her out of the water so ready for my queen to make a comeback

[gleaming imp]

Vita >>>

[final locust]

lamp might be first fully powercrept valk out of p2

[gleaming imp]

Eepy Teri better after all because nostalgia

[solar cliff]

Lamp is a pretty good sup tho, her rotation are super fast

[muted mauve]

about 6 more hours until outfits are announced

[edgy drift]

not really no, she's already barely used in any team as support unless ranked

[small wing]

Watch 8.2 will be robo helia and she's still mecha

[gleaming imp]

Just use vita instead

[dense harness]

she IS in Wod teams best supps no ?

[edgy drift]

she's basically relegated to hitcount support

and that's all she does

[final locust]

her only advantage as a support in any team she supports is speed, and speed can only get you so far

[gleaming imp]

Even then vita also has decent hit count

[edgy drift]

Vita is slow af tho

[final locust]

nobody will ever have as much hitcount as lantern

[edgy drift]

HB

[still condor]

they can absolutely make someone with more hitcount than lantern

[small wing]

Not really no

[final locust]

ok HB is pretty crazy hitcount too

[final locust]

nope no WoD dps has her as their best team

[muted mauve]

Ch.7 ||I'm like 90% sure that will be the final boss of the arc. Helia should have her own independent power up that will be playable.

The remaining 10% are cause of Litost||

[dense harness]

[edgy drift]

Only with SS1+, below that you just want higher buffs from any other valk

[final locust]

songque did for a little while but vita thelema > thelema lantern afaik

[solar cliff]

Speed is very important tho what ? I mean I guess have a good alternative means that she isn’t a must have but she still isn’t fully powercrept

[edgy drift]

Even for Thelema if you want speed you use Sena Eepy (with htr stigs on eepy) and neither of the 2 supps ever need field time

[final locust]

speed only does so much when the buffs the speed comes with are extremely lackluster

[edgy drift]

If spd was everything HFI would be bis in all teams

Lantern has some niche she can fill, but it mostly isn't relevant (except the very high hitcount stuff)

[final locust]

lantern is not powercrept as of right now but next patch we are getting a new psy WoD dps and LoA fire dps
if they're good enough lantern is in trouble

[edgy drift]

Lantern dps basically loses everything except fire Mobius (tho she's already so bad on Mobius at S0 idk atp)

[final locust]

yeah S0 lantern is a shit show

im sure S0 kiana will score similarly if not better

[edgy drift]

Kasumi gone, WoD rpc/tank gone

[edgy drift]

the shitter Mobius still needs hitcount

[final locust]

ur right smh

[edgy drift]

that's why not sure, it could be an "everything is garbage" situation

[final locust]

i mean songque can kind of do it

[gleaming imp]

Can’t you just use as of this moment hofin dk on lamp shill

[final locust]

her jump attacks are like 4 hits each... i guess

[final locust]

its not good enough to beat lantern

[solar cliff]

At what rank is she considered “not shit”

[final locust]

SS1 i believe

[solar cliff]

Damn

[edgy drift]

SS or SS1 ye

she just gets way too much from ranks

[ember locust]

Nothing changes

[edgy drift]

and has way too little at base

[ember locust]

Normal fate of QUA valks

[final locust]

wdym

teri and sparkle arent bad

[ember locust]

Oh for support they aren't cooked

DPS Wise though...

[final locust]

why would teri be cooked

teri is a pretty good qua valk

[gleaming imp]

Teriteri and sparkle >>> lamp

[ember locust]

Her main AR is WoD

But she Shadow Star, Heavenly Shift and ???

[ember locust]

Bro didn't read my second line

There's a reason why I said DPS Wise

[final locust]

why would teri dps be cooked

[ember locust]

Quantum weathers are really rare

[final locust]

not anymore

[edgy drift]

except during qua patch

qua patch ended, back to the gulag

[final locust]

is reign solaris really topscore for MA Sa?

[ember locust]

Nuh uh, the point still stands. Since we're not in SIMP's or Sparkle's patch, the QUA weathers are gone for Hoyo knows how long

[distant lagoon]

Sa? no but for Kevin yes

[ember locust]

Ain't that Vita for Sa ?

[final locust]

then why is this on my screen

its t1

[distant lagoon]

it´s a 12S... as if you can copy that.

[edgy drift]

SSS Dudu team goes dumb

[final locust]

scored higher than SS vita and SSS song aop

[muted mauve]

that's technically not Sa.

[final locust]

[small wing]

Sa?

We have a Sa boss now?

[distant lagoon]

not the Sa. only the sprout of wishing from the first arc of part 1.5

[small wing]

Ah

[edgy drift]

S0 team already good for MA even tbh, because Songque fish spam is sus anni

iirc can get 4-5sec on SSS Apo

[final locust]

sparkle has full timestop too

[muted mauve]

also technically not the same since it got Sa's colors

[distant lagoon]

it´s just in that colors to make it different from the normal sprout.

[edgy drift]

this alone wouldn't do that much, you still need to do dmg and she ain't the one bringing it

[final locust]

but her whole support sequence is timestop

so you waste no time with her

[edgy drift]

technically not whole

the timestop doesn't last the entire animation

[final locust]

like a quarter of a second

[edgy drift]

but I mean ye obviously she's a part of it

[vocal harness]

||If i don`t have small Dudu , will i still be able to use the new Kiana?||

[smoky burrow]

come on bro

[gleaming imp]

Yes

[vocal harness]

What are you trying to say?

[smoky burrow]

I was having the hopes of pulling for dudu but seeing the ??? its set in stone

Kiana is the way

Also is it wrong for me to say that dudu combat is kinda eh

[vocal harness]

And what supps is she gonna use? I only have Thelma , Sena, Helia and Coralie

[vocal harness]

I like her gameplay but it s a bad timing for me

[fast quarry]

Is there crit rng in Dudu if I don't have sera?

[verbal mountain]

dudu also has ???

[verbal mountain]

there is crit rng always, sera doesn't fix her crit rate but most of her main attacks have 100% crit rate so crit rng isn't too big of a problem with her imo

[smoky burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-chin-scratch-hmm-think-gif-9438567

what would you do?

[verbal mountain]

if you can only get 1 prob get kiana

[smoky burrow]

Ok ill get her at least Ill have a fire valk

Ill wait and see how good sonq and vita are for her

[vocal harness]

me with no supps for her

[smoky burrow]

live and you learn

a demote here and there wont kill

[vocal harness]

Is || Ely new DK worth pulling?||

[scarlet sapphire]

If you have HoH, then probably

[smoky burrow]

no need to spoiler here man everything here is official stuff and is here already as a spoiler

[vocal harness]

Well , i have S2 Ely soooo

[analog vault]

what if no thelema and lighter

[vocal harness]

I have Thelma too

[scarlet sapphire]

Any two Harnonized Shadow Star valks should do, even if not totally optimal

[burnt jolt]

Dk has value on its own, ely will keep her bosses most likely and will be a support for astral ring law of ascension and a future new one.
If your crystals allow for it, i would pull, especially considering spending event rewards

[copper shale]

low end setup is still rs

[analog vault]

skip durandal? 5k crystals rn

[smoky burrow]

would pull but I missed the free elysia

[analog vault]

shes on returnee