🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[quasi glen]

If it's a repeat then ely dies first

[dry delta]

nOooo

No it has to be a LITTLE difference

cat lady dies first

[naive briar]

my wallet

[gleaming imp]

Will you be pulling for Ely in hsr

[quasi glen]

We even got our old friend HoC

[dry delta]

since some of them die u dont need to pull for all of them

[quasi glen]

Are you really a honkai player if you don't pull ely

[gleaming imp]

[mortal abyss]

but how much of them will actually die die?

[dry delta]

I forgot the flame mansion 😂

man those poor fools didnt get anythin

[mortal abyss]

hype around them died after their father

[dry delta]

screwllum too

[tranquil oasis]

no way

elysia

[rain isle]

[tranquil oasis]

6+5 first second she comes out

oh my fucking god i can't believe it

[rain isle]

Poseidon mindset

[abstract night]

..i could skip ely and feel nothing

Also

[tranquil oasis]

i don't think i've ever been this exited before

also playable kebin?

[abstract night]

Isnt this hi3 cn gameplay discussion not
Hsr live stream discussion

[tranquil oasis]

oh

well i was too exited

haha

[quasi glen]

Bref moment

[rain isle]

[slim lion]

WHERE

[abstract night]

[slim lion]

Their children lived
Duke inferno was just way to committed to destruction, but he asked mei to not touch their children and she agreed

They got poorly off screened tho

[abstract night]

[zinc gorge]

when is my jesus returning to supply shop

[quick river]

hoyo dosnt kill only temporarly gets rid off Inferno can rebirth and when something its not on screen it did not happen we litterly talk with one of the members

[abstract night]

Who?

[zinc gorge]

the pink jesus

our savior

[abstract night]

...who??

[naive briar]

Vita

[zinc gorge]

elysia

[abstract night]

Ur basically saying
"When is my favorite character returning to supply shop??"
Idk ur favorite character/ur jesus

[abstract night]

Which one?

Either way probably never

[thick prawn]

[abstract night]

Her time is up

[zinc gorge]

pain

[tranquil oasis]

bro is fuming

[willow perch]

Bro is exhuming fumes at a rapid pace

[zinc gorge]

[rain isle]

💨

been years since I last posted this lmao

[final locust]

everyone knows pink jesus

[willow perch]

[noble cobalt]

… K

[abstract night]

[smoky hemlock]

Oh my dalao everyone supposed to know u are supposed to mald wit p1 valkyrie

[steep axle]

just use ely

or HoT bruteforce

[gleaming imp]

Elysian everlasting

[dry delta]

i love how hsr got drip market elysia (Cyrene) and we got elysia boss

[steep axle]

what is hsr elysia abt i was watching trailer at school and didnt see anything

[dry delta]

nothing much

same ordeal as it was in ER

Some entity (a lord ravager known as the chess something i forgor) corrupted amorpheous from within, ruining their "titans" and causing massive bloodshed
now 13 heroes rise and we wonder what happens

[steep axle]

13 is crazy

what happened to there wont be another elysia stuff

[dry delta]

I guess he meant "There won't be another elysia" as there won't be a second elysia-like sacrifice she had to make in hi3 world

not like there won't be someone who is a reincarnation of her in another universe ever again

[hasty cedar]

hi3 players already knowing how this will end:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435687797626634241/1099895211930427502/7695c27844eef5c820ea4fc645b45cd6_1866194482780900966.gif

[dry delta]

dude that catgirl has death flags

[hasty cedar]

they completely changed pardo's personality

[dry delta]

whatever we know what'll happen

[ember locust]

Pink Jesus Weather 🤌🤌

[quick river]

crackpot theory is that they are all dead because the remembrance stuff and we are there to stop the destruction of their "memories" probs something to do with corruption from the titans

[rustic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

Remembrance? Memories? Elysian realm? Coincidence?

[hasty cedar]

and it ends with one of the titans being so powerful that they'll have to sacrifice the energy or whatever stored in the rememberance crystals and we blow up the entire planet

https://tenor.com/view/elysia-honkai-impact3-herrscher-of-human-elysian-realm-gif-26455777

what if march was a flame chaser

[quick river]

no but going by crack theory she is related to that elysia look alike and they will have a talk about her past and place in the world

[quick river]

well maybe not the planet but memory sphere around it or something

[dry delta]

coma theory

Really believable

I dont think thats true at all since then rememberance people would've left long ago

[gleaming imp]

I'm waiting for my snake queen and fu hua and vill v

[dry delta]

no snake queen

all you get is a scientist thats it

[gleaming imp]

[dry delta]

fu hua is general hua in xianzhou wait for her

[dry delta]

vill v is someone who has disassociative identity disorder (the mini sardine with her numerous dolls/faces)

who did you think the mini sardine was if not vill v..?

griseo?

[gleaming imp]

Senawho?

[dry delta]

Tribbie

[quick river]

nah just Er rehash but bit of greek mixed in

[still condor]

sena

[dry delta]

Yeah whatever its not true

The main purpose of rememberance individuals is to capture memories and record them

Sims aren't living beings in the sense we're talking about

[sinful river]

Hua already exists

If I’m not wrong Hua is the supreme leader of Xianzhou

[misty patio]

we dont have evil hua

arlekekno / onyx simourgh variant

[atomic shell]

Is Kiana getting a new battle suite? I am not asking for leaks or stuff just asking if it’s probable she gets one.

[abstract night]

So like

We dont know

[atomic shell]

https://tenor.com/view/what-da-tuna-gif-7414278627555691403

[abstract night]

Wut

We almost done with 7.9 in cn, and entering 7.9 in glb next week

8.0's dudu

Thats all we know

[smoky burrow]

randomly pulled anything out of no where

then told us it isnt leaks

[edgy drift]

people acting like there can't be multiple

[tepid jetty]

This game already has multiple, and ppl still in denial somehow

[dry delta]

ok but if martial hua is pe hua
THen that means FC hua in hsr is FU hua but ER hua was HUA PE ver so like

this makes no sense this game is garbage

bronie is not bronya (Sw is not bronya)

[edgy drift]

and Marshal Hua is not Hua either

they're just similar characters

[dry delta]

no u just
Why do you not share the same brain as me ._.

[tepid jetty]

I love it when ppl is in giga denial on smth

Bronie not bronya, but probably will agree bronie is within bronyaverse

[misty patio]

i just wish elysia kept her name.

it meant a lot to her

it makes piyo sad

[tepid jetty]

Classic headcanon ppl

[naive briar]

it does not make me said if an Elysia face character has their own lore in another world

[misty patio]

she even spoke in the same manner though

its literally elysia 😭

[gleaming imp]

My queen is back so I'm happy

[naive briar]

I don't see why she needs to be called Elysia
say that in your own words not mine

[misty patio]

okay, yeah i get how that came out

im jokin

[naive briar]

I have enough fake quotes of mine going around thanks

[misty patio]

even acheron later told us her true name and it had "mei" in it.

[naive briar]

Acheron true name and it had "mei" in it
Acheron's true name is Raiden Mei
ancient JP names include family order and job title in names
Bousenmori is her job
if she were a samurai it would be Raiden Samurai Mei
translates to modern day Japanese Raiden Mei

[misty patio]

[tepid jetty]

Acheron can also cook, it's just dat she pretty much stopped when she lost her taste

[misty patio]

[muted mauve]

is this a good sign for Part 2 Dudu gacha or a bad one

[tiny jolt]

how functional is Sparkle as Quantum DPS? I don't have Eepy Teri

[slate elm]

eepy teri is not a hard requirement

she might be more emphasized in some situations, and in other situations she may not be really used at all

for the most part when sparkle is leader just make sure to fulfill the other roles on the world star team

[final locust]

shes good with vita hfi

[slate elm]

she's good with other valks too

don't make them only hone on those two

[final locust]

well if they have them why not use them

[slate elm]

you know that for sure?

[final locust]

assume they have them, then if they don't, offer alternatives

[tiny jolt]

well I do

[slate elm]

even then they're not the best options in every situation

[final locust]

usually they are

[slate elm]

but alright start with that for now. But don't be close minded to other options

[final locust]

well, they should have the most damage in every situation

maybe not best but should be most damage

[slate elm]

you know full well damage isn't everything in this game

[final locust]

its a lot

[slate elm]

i think that depends on the player and their objectives. In the usual case of RL retain you don't need to emphasize marginal damage which is what we're talking about when it comes to hofi and vita vs other choices

[muted mauve]

Is it even worth running this over Eden even if is this boss.

[slate elm]

but alright

[final locust]

eden?

who is ur dps

[tiny jolt]

so who are sparkle's best teammates if I don't have Eepy Teri or Lantern?

[final locust]

vita hfi has most damage
thel vita is also good, same for sena thel or any combo with sena/thel/vita/hfi

[slate elm]

it's situational

i don't think vita/sena would be that good but i haven't seen it yet

[quiet zealot]

Has any p2 valks have their second rerun yet, how long would it take

[slate elm]

sena isn't a detonator and both overlap in the breach role. Vita does convert her's to a different buff but i don't think it's notable

[final locust]

sena, thelema, and lantern have

[quiet zealot]

Oh the carnival one?

[final locust]

when u place mark with sena it detonates 3 or 4 times

[slate elm]

check arustats for past calendars

[quiet zealot]

Alrighty

[slate elm]

it's more like 6 or so times

which is fine

[muted mauve]

Given that it's bleed and I'm thinking between Eden and Cosmic Expression. Luna

[slate elm]

it's just sparkle has many more triggers so she or teri lead kinda prefers double detonators

[final locust]

i thought that was SI.... hell no eden way better there
but youll have a hard time with the hitcount

but id use turg eden tbh

[slate elm]

oh it's 8

yeah that makes sense

6 would be from a single detonator alone but sena and helia can also detonate once iirc

[somber egret]

Sena places 8 but only detonates 1

Sparkle and Teri eats the Marks placed by other Team Members

[slate elm]

oh yeah i never noticed this https://i.imgur.com/r4ncxaI.png

[slate elm]

https://www.arustats.com/en-us/hi3/timeline/7.8 if you haven't looked it up yet (because styxx didn't give you a complete answer)

but also beware reruns are generally not recommended if you're not a whale and want to pursue meta

[quiet zealot]

Thank you

[tepid jetty]

A vita rerun however might be reasonable

[slate elm]

yeah vita might be the one exception for now if she does rerun soon. But also be wary that she might not hold this exception for long if another new ring type gets introduced

p2 valks generally do rerun one or two patches later but there's no guarantee to this until confirmed in cn

[naive briar]

Vita and Kiana rerun on Don Quijote

p2 S rank characters are getting reruns so I don't see why not

[slate elm]

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=花+寂灭&order=pubdate

Perhaps you can dig through this. Search terms here are sparkle + nirvana and sorted by latest date. (Using this site to generate the search https://honkai-guide.web.app/#/)

Beware these runs may still not be perfect but does demonstrate variety in support choices. Be sure to note the ranks and disturbance level of each video. I recommend you go a few pages back to check other weathers too.

[short knoll]

unless you have big budget for 2 or 3 patches back to back, vita rerun may not be a good choice

[slate elm]

Senadina used to be in a similar scenario where she was encouraged to backpull because she was the breach support of p2. But she only had this role for WS and WoD ring, so that quickly got dropped the moment they announced a new ring type that vita could handle while sena cannot.

So yeah maybe vita will suffer the same thing

[compact anchor]

are they gna put lite on realms of battle?

[tepid jetty]

Vita is different as well since she can support all ring types

[slate elm]

she doesn't give breach to all ring types though this is incorrect

[slate elm]

check pins

[tepid jetty]

Oh

[slate elm]

i mean if you want to get technical on me, then yes she gives breach to all current ring types

but her breach is tied to each of the current ring types. So if they make a new one then it won't apply there this is incorrect

but yes she's still RoO

[tepid jetty]

Vita will unlock her locked tag for next ring, so mayhaps

[slate elm]

yeah who knows lol

locked skill within a locked skill

if we didn't have the latest pin i would even say maybe the locked skill can stay locked for an even more future ring type

[tepid jetty]

And vita will get dkey to add that in

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/446011203244916747/1141004100113289286/sentidance.gif

[slate elm]

i'm still waiting for mini vitas as an astralop for vita

[still condor]

1-2 mini vita per element

[muted mauve]

~~No need. Just have someone else provide the breach instead.

If the character is in Elemental Breach/Physical Breach state not provided by Lone Planetfarer, then Elemental Breach/Physical Breach state provided by Omniscient Skyveil for this character is converted into Elemental/Physical DMG increase, amounting to Elemental Breach x9.29/Physical Breach x2.23.
~~

[short knoll]

rainbow vitamin

[still condor]

Doesn't vita still need to provide her breach in the first place for it to convert

[slate elm]

yes

i mean it literally says it right there lol

[muted mauve]

goddamit I misread one part when cycling through skills

[still condor]

Wait I think she provides breach to all types, it's just bigger for WS WoD and maybe new type
'With World Star, Wheel of Destiny, or [???] not activated, Omniscient Skyveil additionally provides the following effects:
● Elemental DMG dealers gain Elemental Breach state, where they gain 9% Elemental Breach.
● Physical DMG dealers gain Physical Breach state, where they gain 29% Physical Breach.'

WS WoD get 14/45 instead of 9/29

[slate elm]

i'll have to look at it again but i thought the other breach effect was for p1 uses

oh wait now i'm the one not reading lol

i missed the "not" in what you posted

but yeah ok i guess it can apply to future ring types too wow

my bad @tepid jetty lol

[tepid jetty]

I don't read either to fully support my claims

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430057371641970708/1115539979041505300/1104922665329885244.gif

[abstract night]

But only sena provides breach tho

Right?

For pt2

Its just vita and sena

[slate elm]

we're talking about if a new future ring type were to happen

[abstract night]

Oh

[slate elm]

so the priority would go to whatever that is dedicated to provide breach to that new future ring type

but i guess if you want to cope vita is fine for being both RoO and providing some amount of it

although i'm ngl i wouldn't be surprised if she gets dropped anyway if she doesn't have the tags for that new ring type

[abstract night]

Oh

[slate elm]

breach gets emphasized but it's not everything. There's numerous examples where it gets dropped because it's not worth doing so much for it

[muted mauve]

I wonder what the stated given by enhanced QTE entry will do to the current Valks.

Just make Songque faster so she beats Sparkle pls.

[short knoll]

make sparkle better instead

[slate elm]

btw did they really have to make these two icons so similar lol https://i.imgur.com/9ac3gQx.png

[tepid jetty]

Would be funny if sparkle ends up being better, with the amount of doompost she got

[slate elm]

they're not even the usual teammate icons

i've been telling people constantly that my warnings were still tentative and that the locked skill might change things

i am getting cold feet about going for sparkle now though

because i thought i would use her with teri alot but it's starting to seem not to be the case

[thick prawn]

[muted mauve]

she can be better all she wants. I'm not separating the birds.

[final locust]

lmao ur right

[slate elm]

i was going to make a separated at birth meme joke but that actually hits a bit too hard in a different way

[final locust]

oh my

is reason of promotion really the damn name

rough tl right

reason of promotion sounds so dumb 😭

[slate elm]

prob a rough tl for now

[muted mauve]

Promotion Logic, Promotion Reason, whatever you want to call it since there's no official TL yet.

"Promotion" should be guaranteed as it's the literal chess term.

The names translate to:
Astral Ring Specialization - Promotion Reason
QTE enhanced State - Heaven and Abyss Castling

If I'm not wrong about the chess naming scheme.

升变, 易位

[gleaming imp]

Smol dudu bait easy skip

[hazy seal]

im curious how official en would translate these names in like a month

[muted mauve]

[prisma tartan]

chess

[solar surge]

finally, some good lore

[rustic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/limusa-cat-playing-chess-game-kitty-gif-16752722

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-bcs-breaking-bad-pizza-hector-hector-salamanca-gif-25530165

[plucky cradle]

wtf

[muted mauve]

where are your supports

[plucky cradle]

they died

wtf they heal so much

[tepid jetty]

This game mode again

[solar surge]

Heal so much the integer overflow error made them register as dead?
Saw something like that in D&D once

[solar surge]

so, survey is live
||do I complain about them killing the pupper for christmas?||

[short knoll]

sacrifice is needed for helia wick

[solar surge]

not worth it
I mean, it's heelies
a depresso arc isn't gonna make her cool
just look at mei

also, helia might be easier to take seriously if she weren't using rubber band toys for everything
I mean, it's Mars. There's got to be a Super Shotgun or BFG lying around somewhere

[slate elm]

new helia dkey: mars rock

when's the faceoff against hos brick

[solar surge]

completely forgot that, being sent there to gather data, ||and hopefully becoming a robot||
that makes Coralie a Mars Rover

[final locust]

8.1 CNY battlesuit: Litost
Weapon: he swings around the dead dog at the enemies

[solar surge]

eh, playable dudes get a lot of backlash
now, Ajita? ...I could see it, sadly

[final locust]

Litost: "One last battle, duonigue"
Duonigue: unresponsive

[slate elm]

Litost: "Fetch"

[solar surge]

Duongue: "Stop trying to make 'Fetch' happen. Fetch isn't happening."

[final locust]

Duonigue: unresponsive

[final locust]

ermmm the correct line is "...stop trying to make 'Fetch' happen. It's not going to happen."

[slate elm]

just look away from duonigue for a second

[final locust]

i think im officially a honkai degen there's hoyomix on my playlist 😔

[solar surge]

the new sporkle accordion song is pretty catchy

[final locust]

nah ive got moon halo nightglow and honkai world diva

moon halo MIGHT be the best hyv song of all time

[naive briar]

doggo slander

[final locust]

it's not like he can hear me

[solar surge]

apparently he can ||literally stab people through their computers||, so be careful
can't wait 'til he's... Li-toast

...they replaced Samsara with Samara
|| "...seven days?"||

[final locust]

how does he plan on stabbing me? he's 6ft under

[solar surge]

I didn't get the impression Litost plans on stabbing anyone, he just kinda does it

I dunno, it just seems like this upcoming arc gets super, super dark out of nowhere, without really any point to Mars besides "wake up Kiana from her weird nap"

[strange crystal]

Might want to discuss this in #📚honkai-lore instead

[solar surge]

like:

• Sena is gone
• orange girl has a creepy dark side, apparently
• Chex Mix is no longer the privacy-invading best friend
• Teri Teri's subconsious needs a comfy bed
• Durandal dreams of computer admin rights

[gleaming imp]

Playable male in my gacha game?

[slate elm]

it's upcoming cn story content so it's a bit of a gray area

although if you want to be considerate and safe maybe spoiler tagging it would be nice

[solar surge]

plus, I just popped in and they're talking about Nagazora Space Cancer
kinda weird to derail their convo

[slate elm]

hm i guess #📚honkai-lore really is the more appropriate place

the pins seem to permit discussing of that there but with spoiler tags

[solar surge]

also, I must admit, "Stars Derailed" for the Sparkle patch?
well played, mhy, well played

[gleaming imp]

question for chat if horb got a dkey in the future would you say horb adv worth so you be ahead of other horb dkey users via higher rank on your horb?

[slate elm]

no

i mean truly speaking it really depends but there's never really been that sort of case

[gleaming imp]

[prisma tartan]

[slate elm]

there's a million details i can discuss but i think the main thing you need to consider is horb's age. By the time a dkey happens for her, we can prob expect to afford her ranks in other more efficient ways

[short knoll]

the collab is kinda derailed too, seem mid

[solar surge]

as I understand it, dkeys are worth more than valks
so, even without horb, a new dkey scythe would be worth it for the permanent account boost
as for new weapon giving horb new life? It could happen (see also Finality)... but that's Finality
while Seele, arguably, has more lore-relevance to Vita than Kiana, it's Kiana
more likely that Seele gets a new battle suit that happens to use a dkey scythe than HoRB gets the part 2 treatment
that's kinda what's happening to Dudu anyway

[short knoll]

that is only for whale

without the valk, normal player wouldnt pull for the wp

f2p will just wait for free dkey

[slate elm]

if you want to value it on a long term account basis then sure the permanent +10 atk is considerable. But for actual use and purpose this is highly debatable and disagreeable. Those actual use cases are likely to remain niche and may not last for long.

but yeah as hsien said, if you're willing to wait, paying 60 rolls now isn't as worth as just getting it for free or for 10 pulls on firepower down the line if that even still exists

even fp's 10 pulls was debatable

[solar surge]

that does bring up an interesting lore question:
if Mars Bar gives characters their "idealized self"

• Teri's nap, Dudu's neglected inner child
  ...what would that do for Split Personality Seewe ?

[gleaming imp]

Even for a guranteed dk +10

[slate elm]

yeah tbh

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

if you're just an RL player is that +10 atk going to matter to you that much?

[solar surge]

...I thought it helped agony, too

[gleaming imp]

Wouldn't it, depending on your bracket if other players run the same set up as you?

[slate elm]

it helps but arguably, you can retain all this with more maintaining your roster with relevant valks and teams

[gleaming imp]

Since it would be just ranks and ws and dk difference

[slate elm]

that sounds like nirv :>. Are you saying RL is this sweaty?

i would admit i'm out of touch but every time i see RL the lower end of it usually is full of questionable aspects

[gleaming imp]

RL as of late yes on senadina weathers, I got 708 on her boss and didn't retain

[slate elm]

could be a substandard score that clearly is doing something wrong with the execution, or maybe the team is missing something important, or maybe the levels aren't fully invested

which weather was this

has senadina weathers even ran recently???

[near berry]

is there any information about new dudu
Yes

[gleaming imp]

Let me check

[short knoll]

if you can't retain red lotus, the 10atk is rarely the reason
more like you pulled random shit and dont have good team for that

[solar surge]

smol, uses Mistlen weapons

[slate elm]

https://i.imgur.com/6b6dn4R.png

[solar surge]

apparently there's a new QTE system

[gleaming imp]

It was this one

[slate elm]

i have many questions already

This is a JDS weather first of all

[near berry]

do we know her recommendrf teammates
Yes i checked the pins

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

the boss has a threshold that's very low and far in its hp that sena can't reach early

so JDS CA triggering it early gives her an advantage

there's alot of more minor aspects that JDS can take advantage of too

helia isn't really one of sena's better options anymore(? There aren't really other non leader mark placers for her. But nowadays I feel i just see teri lead if you need lightning resonance damage)

[solar surge]

Rita, Stan
probably Sparkle, Vita
meibe Teri/ Kiana, if you want to be lore-friendly

[rustic sinew]

What's dudu type again?

[near berry]

img

[rustic sinew]

Bio or what

Oh img

[gleaming imp]

I got nothing else until eepy teri adv

[slate elm]

look for locked skill valks probably

but for now maybe just wait for more info

[gleaming imp]

Break over

[feral epoch]

probably songque vita with sera as of 8.0 patch

[solar surge]

Rita
maybe Susbear if Dudu found Himeko's old wine stash

[near berry]

-not that kind of type

[rustic sinew]

Img hmmm if 8.1 is anni again I have to consider this pull

[slate elm]

at any rate RL isn't an environment where a single dkey, or possibly even all of them would make or break t10 in most cases

so if the person's goal is just to retain it, i would argue that FP's 10 roll for a dkey, as relatively affordable as it is, may not be the right call if that 10 pull deficit prevents them from completing a future valk

10 rolls is still alot at the end of the day. Takes more than a week to make that amount without events/paying.

[feral epoch]

need new weekly crystals income

[gleaming imp]

Thanks

Manifestating the cn food place next to me has melon flavored milk tea or green tea or tea

[somber egret]

Bitter melon milk tea

[naive briar]

that thing is... terrible in taste but it is herbal medicine

[short knoll]

just drink something else that is also healthy

like pepsi

[quasi glen]

Just winter melon

Bitter melon

[gleaming imp]

I've tried winter melon green tea and it was good so bitter melon also should be good

[oak yarrow]

one of the sena weathers of all time

[gleaming imp]

My sena just needs a SS eepy Teri and vita and she'll shine

[oak yarrow]

just s vita is enough

[gleaming imp]

SS though

[oak yarrow]

keep in mind sss vita with s2 luna got outscored by s2 vita with sss luna last cycle

vitas ranks are not all that

this is from sss vita player

[slate elm]

are you just saying SS ranks arbitrarily? What's the specific appeal or consideration here?

[oak yarrow]

their goal is to skip initial release then pick up chars on adv only

they pulled vita full gear already

[slate elm]

oh no i know drya very well

[gleaming imp]

No more so a not to be taken seriously ss shiny memeing

But SS is what I'd go in for a Valk v

[mossy escarp]

🐳

[slate elm]

if it was very out of context i would've understood that but you did show me your sena team earlier and brought it the ranks for your sena team

i get that SS is a benchmark to reach of some sort as you're spending crystals. Is that how far you get when rolling on adv to 100 or so?

[gleaming imp]

Also because s0 doesn't seem appealing in general for valks feels like the Valk is missing out due to lack of ranks, example a s0 sparkle doesn't sound appealing to play for me

[slate elm]

and i know that hoyo games tend to emphasize the ss/c2/e2 etc ranks nowadays

well at any rate i'm sure you know but ranks aren't equal. Make sure you understand what you're paying for lol

there's alot of valks where SS rank may not even do anything depending on the purpose (lol hofi sure aged well)

[gleaming imp]

I know hotrtuh and lv ss comparison for example

Geez lv how come you get so many supportive ranks at ss and hotruth is like 1/2 since s2 just sp

[slate elm]

what about the hotr and quateri one lol

[gleaming imp]

Let me check teriteri ranks rq

[slate elm]

prob for the best if you plan to aim for her SS someday

but all i was really going to say was i heard s0 quateri still outshining ss htr

for lv dps ofc

but that didn't age well because nowadays lv dps can get contested by quateri dps instead

[gleaming imp]

Finished looking at teriteri ranks and yeah it's one sided in teriteri favor

Ranks do more than hotruths

[slate elm]

i'm not sure if i agree tbh

i mean it's no surprise the newer valk would be more appealing to invest more into

but idk if i really see anything too interesting from qua teri's ranks. I picked up s2 to support luna dps better personally

[gleaming imp]

Like since I get ss Teri and ss vita day one their advs drop I can run teriteri vita senadina/hofin

[slate elm]

meanwhile htr for her time heavily desired s2 so she can ult more. It was a bigger influence for each of their times.

(this is also because htr had the threshold banner)

[gleaming imp]

Did you ever pull on one of those?

[slate elm]

yes

[gleaming imp]

Really?

You took the bait

[slate elm]

they behaved like regular banners except you can get additional gears from them

is that supposed to be bait?

they're not bait lol

the bait aspect is more about how far you want to go with them

[gleaming imp]

Aren't they usually pre cny or big major patch?

[slate elm]

and which valks they were for

wow ok let me just skip htr and get hoo and hfi

wow my trio team doesn't work anymore what a scam

[gleaming imp]

Like vv was pre hoh and hotruth was pre 6.4 and fov was pre p2

[slate elm]

like i said it depends on what the valk is

i skipped vill-v and fov

but threshold banner in itself doesn't make it a scam banner necessarily

the scam i did roll for was SW but i'm not going to regret that one

[gleaming imp]

Would you say a threshold > adv?

[slate elm]

yes

but it also depends on what it is

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

i don't think you're really ever going to see me agreeing with adv banners unless something drastically changes

[gleaming imp]

Question would you if hindsight ae and hos adv good?

[slate elm]

anyway if you just want SS because that's where advs rolls puts you at then sure but be careful of how you're saying it. You're making it sound like SS vita and teri offer something notable to sena when i don't think they do lol

[slate elm]

idk AE's ranks so i can't answer that. SS HoS was notable but i also never found it necessary for RL. So nope.

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

keep in mind hi3 is a competitive game so it's based on the competition around you too

when everyone else around you is also S.0 then there really isn't a need to push higher even if a higher rank is good in some way

actually even if everyone around you is SS.0 often times even in nirv land they may not play as well, or the rank benefits may not be as notable, and you can catch up/get close in some way

when a valk's SS rank becomes competitively noteworthy, it's more because they gave enough of them out in other ways that more people have them

like SS HoO

[gleaming imp]

I have a question, why isn't ss vita considered good for sena if ss restores AR, isn't p2 just quicker AR = ?

[oak yarrow]

yeah ss restores...5

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

whether you need ARI or not depends on the fight

SS rank has two parts that is ARI related. One is minor as Awawa mentioned. The other is WoD related only.

If you're looking for ARI look at a gacha astral op.

[oak yarrow]

^ the wod portion isnt very useful if u dont have gacha op

since it doesnt change the lack of energy

[gleaming imp]

So not good since me have 3S kiaelf

[slate elm]

for RL you really don't need a gacha op

and gacha op ranks aren't equal either

i don't own any gacha ops myself. I've gotten away in many fights in nirv. There's definitely a few where it's extremely important though

[short knoll]

just 12S everything

[gleaming imp]

Question would you recommend people going for songque from spending tokens if she's added to it like how kiaelf and PB were?

[slate elm]

depends on what else is in the shop

but sure it would be a high consideration

the main points on how i judge what's worth buying are

• affordability (can you even get it now or eventually?)
• exclusiveness (can you get it in other ways?)
• practicality (would it see use?)

[rain isle]

Ello

[gleaming imp]

I just realized PB fell off compared to Kiaelf

[rain isle]

🍞

[slate elm]

PB is just niche. It still has its situations

but you don't see much p1 physical situations anymore

[gleaming imp]

It's just kiaelf despite being older just seems better overall since lighting and fire rather just focusing on physical

[slate elm]

it's not really a surprise since she's covering more situations lol

there's other details too but yeah it's not always about age

look at how long BKE lasted

look at how short SpA lasted

[gleaming imp]

She lasted until Hare? Idk how long bke lasted I just know she got the extension via AF and iirc flopped on debut

[slate elm]

until hare was a really long time lol

[somber egret]

BKE still good

[oak yarrow]

cope

[somber egret]

In ||SimBattle||

[slate elm]

yeah even when DW was released, BKE still stuck around a bit with einstein band b against dominance weathers lol

wasn't the best but even second best options are good enough

i stuck with TP until DW myself

[oak yarrow]

tbf stuck around a bit was because no one had hare

400 points behind is crazy

[somber egret]

Gonna be the same with Sparkle

[gleaming imp]

I have a question out of curiosity when bke released I assume TP was older but wasn't TP farmable since shes augment so was bke competing with ranked TP?

[somber egret]

[slate elm]

was it? I don't think the gap was that big for super early dom weathers. Nowadays the dist has outgrown her it seems

DW was odd to me

[oak yarrow]

i was fearing for my life on early dom days

hare was not even close to being contested until thelema

[gleaming imp]

Aponia boss I didn't have anything to score well on it until brick

[slate elm]

She wasn't too common early on (so carole/ta dps was viable), then everyone had her in the middle (or at least i suffered a near t10 myriad so maybe i'm unlucky), and then she died down again (because thelema even if she wasn't best)

[rustic sinew]

8.1 is global anni right?

[oak yarrow]

sounds about right

[gleaming imp]

That's cny right?

[gleaming imp]

Is cny also global anni?

[somber egret]

Yes

[oak yarrow]

near t10 myriad
so whel

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

hey man i wasn't a part of it lol

[slate elm]

yeah p much but keep in mind of the timelines of their weapons

the only time i think TP stood out briefly was when her pri arm happened and dxy came up (who wanted bleed)

although i can't remember if holmes wrenched that or not

you already brought up AF so i won't repeat that

[gleaming imp]

I wish augments were a thing still

They seemed very affordable

[slate elm]

that's prob a reason why they aren't a thing anymore lol

[gleaming imp]

small indie company does need its funds

[short knoll]

if they keep augment core around, it wont be as affordable as A rank

[quasi glen]

I mean they're even stopping wt valk releases

[short knoll]

normal A rank is just better

[quasi glen]

Though wt did kinda feel pain even if it was cheap

[short knoll]

they can just make new gear for new core, but to build new augment core, new player need to farm both rank and the core, make them harder to farm than normal A rank

[slate elm]

yeah it was quite a niche crowd

[short knoll]

for old player with SSS rank of the old valk, the cost is about the same as new A rank, no real benefit

[slate elm]

not to mention some of these augments are based on gacha valks

or past gacha valks that were then WT farmable

[thick prawn]

[gleaming imp]

One final quick question in your opinion what’s LV place in the meta like atm, and also a SS LV

[slate elm]

i mean we just had bleed hos where she supported vita

but that was definitely more of a gimmick and not a standard team to expect again

[still condor]

Couldn't use vita cause 2/4 s0 Luna

[slate elm]

yeah i didn't realize how important her weapon was for applying bleed

was telling someone to use her without weapon

[gleaming imp]

Wait it’s her weapon that applies the bleed? I thought that was base kit

[still condor]

I have her wep at least, but DMG is non-existent without stigs

[oak yarrow]

i recorded a nirvana run with cope luna

[still condor]

Wep applies bleed off field

[oak yarrow]

it wasnt that bad ™️

[still condor]

Need it for vita dps on bleed

[gleaming imp]

And for other lighting dps too?

[still condor]

If you're using them on bleed weather yeah

[gleaming imp]

[still condor]

Still need it outside tbf, cause DMG buffs are DMG buffs lul

[slate elm]

hm i can't find my screenshot

[plucky cradle]

wtf pisacha weather in 2024

p2 bleed soon trust

[slate elm]

but anyway broadly speaking she's pretty situational/niche like other past valks.

and htr can still be servicable to lightning teams as support

[gleaming imp]

Even with eepy teri buff?

[slate elm]

hoo dps can opt for either htr or lv for breach

[slate elm]

if you want to talk about her as a main dps then i already commented on this earlier. In some situations the starless benares rot where quateri became the dps is more viable

ah but i should say this is me with ss lv and s2 qua teri

[still condor]

P1 eepy dps on starless Benares was super strong

[slate elm]

against mobius i found qua teri more effective because lv is still contributing alot of damage as support, and this fight is long enough that sustaining lv's sp as a support role is better/close

[gleaming imp]

It’s okay my lv will be SS too just will be missing qua teri until her adv drops like 8.5

[still condor]

Both powercrept approximately 20 times by 8.5

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

i think on rimestar other people found s0 lv dps to be fine? But with my ranks qua teri dps was still best for me.

[oak yarrow]

s0 luna worked but it was not fine

[still condor]

Idek what Luna ranks do aside from iirc breach on s1 and team lightning on s2

[slate elm]

s3 is lead but prob not too much in numbers. lead skill does have a bleed multi though

ss is more team breach and boosts your ult damage iirc

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

classic lead skill marginal boosts lol

[gleaming imp]

I’ll just stop at SS though

[still condor]

Damn she doesn't boost her self breach?

[oak yarrow]

ss isnt that much of a boost from s2 tbh

[still condor]

Even HoTr does that

[slate elm]

yeah s2 is largely what to go for since 30% lightning bonus is pretty beefy

ranks aren't equal and are not to be compared lol

[gleaming imp]

Ss1 hopefully I can just grab from stamps in shop since I’m saving my stardust shards I think they’re called

[slate elm]

times do change

valks aren't equal as is either

[oak yarrow]

im usually sitting around 0-20 points from ss luna
gap really isnt big

[slate elm]

yeah it really isn't

anything that buffs a specific attack of the kit usually isn't that notable

and qua teri is so full of that in her ranks iirc

so idk how to gauge it

[still condor]

op as fuck

[gleaming imp]

Takes 40% less total dmg

[still condor]

nah the 40% is default, the rank up is 1.5% breach

[willow perch]

Silly dry

[gleaming imp]

SS 4/4 LV funds so far

[oak yarrow]

rontufly vs dryatrentiay brick off

[gleaming imp]

And assuming her adv has the every 10 pulls = 3 focus cards I have a total of 32,581 crystals for lv 4/4 gear saved up rn

116 pulls

[gleaming imp]

How is their account a “brick”?

[slate elm]

at least drya has been at this for a while. I said this already but even secondary options can be largely fine in RL. So if you look at that way, it makes sense how rolling in adv can still achieve RL lol

[oak yarrow]

u save way too hard
they pull way too hard

[slate elm]

ofc p2 shill has been a bit of a wrench there

[gleaming imp]

Especially with starless weathers being a thing

[slate elm]

those aren't exactly common but yeah they work in your current favor lol

[gleaming imp]

I’m still proud of my mobius scoring #1 on that starless andrius boss

[slate elm]

she was the best option there after all

[gleaming imp]

I hope they do starless for HoH

[slate elm]

uh this weather basically is that

[tepid light]

Doesn't Global gacha calendar strictly goes like its Chinese counterpart?

[gleaming imp]

[slate elm]

it's not technically starless but hohe is the only really feasible option

[oak yarrow]

starless would be even easier than this current weather

hohe NEEDS ranged or else its over for her dominance

[gleaming imp]

I hope the p1 ice p2 valk comes out soon for HoH to be buffed and for Kira to finally go

[slate elm]

would be nice to see p1 thelema again :V

[gleaming imp]

It should be Kira replaced since jk provides the breach

[slate elm]

how dare you replace everyone's idol

[gleaming imp]

She slandered my queen hare

[short knoll]

replace hoh

[gleaming imp]

Constantly too she was a hater

[quasi glen]

Your queen was a fan

You're disrespecting her oshi

[gleaming imp]

Isn’t that Kira? She’s a Cecilia simp

[tepid light]

I have concerns if Battlesuit B supply is going to be of anyone but Vita since I need her sig weapon.

[gleaming imp]

When was this?

[quasi glen]

Misteln kira fan smh

[oak yarrow]

yeah and hotr got replaced while eden is still alive

[gleaming imp]

but Kira singing isn’t good?

[oak yarrow]

kira has goated singing wym

[gleaming imp]

[oak yarrow]

no faith

[quasi glen]

Idol is more than just singing after all

There's a reason idols and artists/singers are different

[gleaming imp]

Senti and everyone in that room hearing Kira sing during the 7.2 fu hua event will disagree with that sentiment

[slate elm]

oh man do i get to post idols again https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849556332881117194/1294191152425074688/2024-10-11_02-39-48.mp4

[gleaming imp]

I feel uncultured not recognizing the screens that aren’t hi3

[slate elm]

dw about it lol

[still vine]

don't worry I don't either

also she looks like a character from another game I played

[slate elm]

alright let's just say the last time i went on an idol brainrot spree, it took over that channel for a whole day. I'm not letting that happen here lmao

[gleaming imp]

[somber egret]

You want an easier weather for her to get clapped on by Part 2 Teams

[tepid light]

Uhhhh

[feral epoch]

it won't

[somber egret]

A bit obvious they want to rerun another P2 character before 7.9 ends

And knowing 8.0 Dudu New Ring unlocks Sparkle, Vita and Songque Tag

Week 5 ~ 6 P2 Rerun would be Songque

Hence early Vita rerun

[tepid light]

Elaborate

[solar surge]

Sparkle also has a yoyo
couldn't you just use hers?

[gleaming imp]

won’t it be HoH top score like how horb and mobius top score their starless weathers?

[short knoll]

i mean you can concern about that since it's not 100% but not like you can do anything here

if no vita rerun for glb in 7.9 then just wait till her rerun come

[oak yarrow]

lol

[gleaming imp]

[tepid light]

That won't make Vita to run on full power.

[oak yarrow]

starless sk is songque boss
they changed andrius specifically so mobius could do dmg, not just weather

made boss squishy + added mobs

[gleaming imp]

but it’s supposed to be p1 on top there

[short knoll]

i feel like other p2 team will beat your hoh instead

[slate elm]

hoyo can try but sometimes other things may happen

poor horb got her weather stolen by LV then MPE

[feral epoch]

"supposed"

[gleaming imp]

my HoH is better now she’s 4/4 my jk is tb turg m senadina and my Kira EoP is now 65

[feral epoch]

nothing to elaborate

[solar surge]

wait what
miss pink elf beat herrscher of deer feet?

[oak yarrow]

yes

starless sk at low ranks is taken by mpe
at high ranks its songque

horb dps has 0 bosses

[gleaming imp]

Actually for my JK m I put either ppm m or senadina m or avocado m though I’m sure senadina m should be the best of the three? Or is it avocado M? I forgot which of the three is best or good on JK

[feral epoch]

mei pp

[somber egret]

Poor Sealy

[solar surge]

checks out
only two people could ever boss around seewe, and Bronya and Veli would never do such a thing
plus, boss fight spicy Seele? It'll never happen

[gleaming imp]

DK will put her on top eventually

[somber egret]

[slate elm]

keep in mind sena m is mistranslated. It only boosts elemental **weapon ** damage for the team

[gleaming imp]

Apology crystal compensation where?

[somber egret]

I thought that's been fixed with all the changes on her stigs before

[feral epoch]

no more apologem

[short knoll]

at least HoH does big wp dmg

[gleaming imp]

[oak yarrow]

do u think hoyo fixes translation errors

all they fix are bugs that increase ur score

if it lowers it then too bad

[somber egret]

[slate elm]

i forgot to complain about it in the survey along with teri's b stig

i'm too lazy to make a more proper post in bug report too

[still vine]

thelema's hold skill bug is still not fixed

what makes you think they read bug reports anyway

[slate elm]

what hold skill bug? i'm not sure if i recall

[still vine]

if you use her grounded hold skill, it breaks the camera sensitivity for a few seconds

[slate elm]

wow i haven't heard of that until now

[still vine]

#🐛bug-report message

it's been a thing since thelema was first in beta and still hasn't been fixed

[slate elm]

i was wondering if maybe thelema doesn't actually change her position until the last part of the animation but i feel that's not right either

ty for recording it at leaset

[still vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941242872756318248/1236175512364122112/cat-nod.gif

[tepid jetty]

It'll be fixed in 2030

[willow perch]

Bacon loves the stare emotes

[still vine]

yeah they're funny

[slate elm]

just be careful of how judgmental they may come off as when talking to unfamiliar people lol

doesn't really give me those vibes but and some of the box emotes i feel are potent in provoking it

i'm speaking out of line though so feel free to disregard what i'm saying

[crude goblet]

[still condor]

[naive briar]

I know, they really should remove all box emotes

[versed garden]

[plucky cradle]

everyone should think less

[naive briar]

see, I got emote aboose

[plucky cradle]

[feral epoch]

[rain isle]

I love hug and pat emojis. Oh look, one of each dropped here! 🍞

[rain isle]

N O.

[prisma tartan]

[plucky cradle]

let's remove all emotes

[glass nacelle]

[tepid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1285701640799785081/feelscubeman.gif

[sharp adder]

have they announced the supplies for the last two weeks of 7.9?

[gleaming imp]

7.9 so far pure skip patch for me

[sharp adder]

from what ive heard from the grapevine 8.1 isnt RoO either so Im gonna have to keep coping

[twin dune]

Is doodoo a must get in 8.0?

[sharp adder]

but also maybe it's too early to say? 8.1 is still pretty far away so..

hrm

[twin dune]

We didn t even get 8.0 yet

[sharp adder]

one can only hope then

unless they do a haha funny and rerun hofi and her dkey before then

doubt it tho

[main goblet]

that doesn't sound bad tbh
there's a lot of people that didn't get hofi or her dkey

[sharp adder]

manifesting for the last two weeks of 7.9

[short knoll]

should skip hofi regardless

[main goblet]

im more curious on if dudu can be used with other valks aside from sparkle, vita and que like in a supportive way but ill just wait for the dev video

[sharp adder]

fair enough, I guess even with her dkey she'll probably fall out of meta pretty fast

maybe

[short knoll]

if any, she will be support for new valk of that type

[main goblet]

yeah fair

[short knoll]

she should have other tag too

[sharp adder]

my life would be so much easier if Vita didnt specifically need three RoO valks to function as a dps girl why

[main goblet]

im skeptical if she'll be like teri and sparkle and support p1 since that seems like a trend now

[somber egret]

She still function

[sharp adder]

with what team though I dont got hofi

[short knoll]

luna or eden

[sharp adder]

no luna

ok eden it is

[main goblet]

eden or cope with helia

[sharp adder]

I have eden's full gear so it should be . fine

I think

manifesting 8.1 roo

[main goblet]

tho i feel like if we get a new roo the first one to be replaced in vita's team will probably be coralie

[sharp adder]

oh for sure

it's just that I dont have hofi so I'll save for the next one and then just use with coralie

[main goblet]

fair
at least you can use support vita as is tho

[sharp adder]

fair enough fdskf

[somber egret]

https://tenor.com/view/leek-gif-26546868

[lunar prawn]

Is sparkle out yet?

[sharp adder]

in a few days

I think

[lunar prawn]

How many?

Also tysm for telling me<3

[sharp adder]

Ye that's what ive been doing

use her in ER for haha funny dps dmg, otherwise as a support until I get a full RoO team

I was gonna say "theres no way theyd release two valks back to back w the same AR type" but then I remembered Thelema and Lantern

[main goblet]

• que lel

[main goblet]

https://fxtwitter.com/HonkaiImpact3rd/status/1859174861551132776

[lunar prawn]

THANK YOU SO MUCH😭

[sharp adder]

I need to stay strong to skip Sparkle I dont have a fire dps so im . in trouble

(no lantern)

[main goblet]

me neither but idk it doesn't seem like sparkle will do a lot of me + dudu is new ar so she'll probably be important
also anni is coming soon

[sharp adder]

oh fuck I forgot about anni

thankfully im not too interested in dudu so

[main goblet]

i see

gotta wait for now

[sharp adder]

[ripe urchin]

ar?

[sharp adder]

astral ring

[main goblet]

astra ring

[ripe urchin]

ah i see

actually isnt Dudu skippable because she is quantum?

[main goblet]

dudu is said to be img

ur talking about sparkle

[sharp adder]

^

[ripe urchin]

my bad

[main goblet]

its ok!
theres some info in the pins

[quasi glen]

Dudu
Quantum

[ripe urchin]

oh by the way i have heard that quantum characters arent exactly...great because they seem to be more niche but that doesnt really count for imaginary characters does it?

[ripe urchin]

yeah i dont know how i mistook that

[main goblet]

img weathers have been common so ig yeah

[ripe urchin]

got it thank you

[main goblet]

atp hoyo should make all the valks qua
jk

tho because of teri and sparkle you'll see qua weather from time to time

[ripe urchin]

i actually have eepy teri so i hope skipping Sparkle wont come back to bite me lol

[short knoll]

img weather isn't common too

we dont really recommend a valk because they are img

[main goblet]

should be fine, can't say much since i don't have teri myself

[short knoll]

but img valk usually has good banner timing and kinda good value

[main goblet]

i see
im more looking into dudu not because she's img but because she's the new ar

[ripe urchin]

i really hope she has bleed in her kit lol i really need it

[main goblet]

tbh that would be interesting so she doesn't feel like que 2
at least its just a week until the dev video

[short knoll]

different weapon, she may feel like hotr instead

at least normal form hotr

[sinful river]

Wow HI3rd bilibili gained almost 600 new subs

I wonder why?

[short knoll]

ely power

[plucky cradle]

Ely in 2024

[short knoll]

ely is eternal

[plucky cradle]

[short knoll]

our pink jesus

[ripe urchin]

[thick prawn]

[main goblet]

pink nation is winning

[main goblet]

oh where new dudu's animation get teased somewhere like in the story? i purely said que because both of them are p2 physical valks with a long stick lol

[rain isle]

[rain isle]

:D

[short knoll]

yes, she use lance in story cutscene, her official wp is also lance

songque use staff, she mostly does magical stuff

[feral epoch]

the first released dudu valk is Quantum

[feral epoch]

is it

[willow perch]

Valkyrie Gloria (3.8) is her QUA battlesuit

[short knoll]

https://youtu.be/njSjH7cE8GM?si=TOuxIunCxxIo359C

[feral epoch]

not lance, but javelin

read pins ig

[willow perch]

She uses the same weapon type as Misteln

Javelin

[still condor]

Midvelin

[main goblet]

ohh so that's the thing
ty

[short knoll]

oh right, mixed the wp type

[willow perch]

smh

Atleast DW is no longer the sole user of the weap type

[still condor]

Pls delete lance javelin and trick staff and replace it with bicc sticc

[main goblet]

yeah que has long ranges attacks but its still a long stick even if she doesn't bonk with it like lance/javelin users lol

[still condor]

[willow perch]

Weapon type: B I G G S T I C C

[still condor]

Weapon type: cool stick I found in my backyard that kinda looks like a weapon

[main goblet]

new valk with a light pole/street light when?

[still condor]

New great sword when though

[feral epoch]

dead users

[still condor]

Roza and Lili aren't dead tho

[feral epoch]

dead on alternate timelines

[still condor]

There's more living users than there are dead ones

[plucky cradle]

[still condor]

Alternate timeline ded just like capverse

[main goblet]

new himeko dkey

[feral epoch]

yeah capverse is dead, thats why they rerun it more

[still condor]

New himeko from hsr crossover part 2

[rain isle]

Capverse ain't ded, it just ended no?

[somber egret]

[rain isle]

Just name it Gui Stick at that point

[thick prawn]

[untold ibex]

hey... about the upcoming valkyrie... is she good? is she worth it?

[versed garden]

sparkle or dudu?

[untold ibex]

sparkle... well both actually if it's already known about dudu ^^

[versed garden]

if sparkle, skip (unless dudu changes things massively)
if dudu, we don't know

[untold ibex]

ah... so sparkle is not good? shame.

[little ledge]

skip *for now
with dudu AR info reveal next week, sparkle might become more important

[untold ibex]

ah okay then i'll wait till thursday and see if we know more by then ^-^

[little ledge]

also if you're a beginner without other part2 units, sparkle is actually not a bad first-p2-pull

because she can use Helia right away so you don't need to wait for another S rank on your account

[untold ibex]

no i have all except teri.

[little ledge]

ah ok

[untold ibex]

thanks 🙂

[feral epoch]

then pull her

[untold ibex]

i have about 22k saved up until now... is there something in the next version that's worth getting?

[rain isle]

I skipped Teri and Lantern so far

[short knoll]

she is kinda a bad first pull now since vita rerun in 7.9 too

[feral epoch]

resonance weather (qua) best use teri but sparkle too also not bad
fire (qua) best use sparkle, but teri will be mid there

we're probably gonna get another fire (qua) weather like how resonance vita (qua) for teri later

[short knoll]

QUA content is low prior

[rain isle]

QUA wholesome tho

Case in point, Seewes

Nough said.

[untold ibex]

should i then maybe pull for sonque? is she important?

[rain isle]

[untold ibex]

right now i only have protagonist and... the... other one...

serapeum

[rain isle]

Astral ops? Not a priority

You can go for them if you like the characters enough idk

But generally speaking, not necessary unless you wanna invest in endgame

[untold ibex]

okay guess that means next version is emerald saving time.

i'm not F2P but also no hardcore whale i'm just getting monthly card and sometimes BP, if it has something good like now

[little ledge]

I mean, isn't vita dps crippled without triple-roi?

[rain isle]

Sera dotter yes

[weary elk]

so is she alright for early?

game part 1?

[feral epoch]

that was past teri releases

[little ledge]

you can use whateverr for story

[short knoll]

sparkle helia coralie isn't top tier either, and it's mostly for future valk

[little ledge]

yeah makes sense

[feral epoch]

but still usable, than crippled vita

[naive briar]

[rain isle]

Piyo bouta drop wisdom

[untold ibex]

while i'm at it i have another question... maybe you can shortly help me... why do you use vita with coralie? what makes coralie sogood for her?

[feral epoch]

because vita need roo ring character for her dps mode

[rain isle]

Vita needs Rite of Oblivion teammates for dps, and Coralie is one of the available ones.

[feral epoch]

and coralie hofi with dk is roo character

for now

[untold ibex]

aaaaaah so it's true that coralie is not really good, but she's the only choice we have

[rain isle]

Coralie Herrscher of Finality with dkey

[short knoll]

wont be that big of an issue, beginner with sparkle will jump between a3/red lotus, with vita alone, they can stay in a3

[rain isle]

Essentially ye. Albeit Coralie is decent

[rain isle]

Frfr

[main goblet]

you should also keep your eye on the upcoming anniversary for global/sea too because we don't know what do they plan on giving us during it

[untold ibex]

i'd be curious about that. i mean a spending event is also coming for 8.0

[main goblet]

oh? isn't that cny? tbh it would be more proper to wait until we get info from this channel but yeah
7.9 doesn't seem to offer that much unless you really like sparkle

[feral epoch]

spending event should be coming in 8.1

[untold ibex]

oh wait...

[thick prawn]

[untold ibex]

🤣 okay no sorry joke's on me ... i'm really too stupid to read

[prisma tartan]

its ok

[dry delta]

bio

[sinful crown]

[willow perch]

Creature

[naive briar]

birb

[golden comet]

Is 7.9 out yet

[naive briar]

open the game

[golden comet]

Shit

Aight I'm opening google play

[slim lion]

November 28th

[golden comet]

How long before free elysia expires

[golden comet]

Oh

[slim lion]

Is the new update

[golden comet]

Phew

[slim lion]

Free elysia isn't even out yet

[golden comet]

Thank god

[dreamy pendant]

…wait today is update day?

[feral epoch]

no

next week

[dreamy pendant]

Phew, more time to save

[feral epoch]

in 5 days

[unique swallow]

Not even one scroll up is a message containing the version release date

[robust crane]

Gacha. players. don't. read.

[strange crystal]

I backread too and was confused. He can even quickly check the pins for the sched

[robust crane]

I thought that was general knowledge

(i can't also read)

[dry delta]

guys today is 3.0 day?

wait what serve m i in

[willow perch]

?

[naive briar]

this is Khai's backyard

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-gif-22871275

[naive briar]

generic aussie guy photo

[golden comet]

You play jhonkai?

[earnest forge]

hey chat, is there any chance for other part 1 S ranks to get divine keys in the future, like HoFi got?

[robust crane]

There's a chance anything can happen

[naive briar]

Vita divine ket

[twin ether]

Elysia divine key when

[earnest forge]

I was thinking how cool could it be if HoO could get one too 🙂

[robust crane]

Dea dkey when

[gilded shoal]

Kallen DK when

Oh wait it doesn't exist. Just like her

[earnest forge]

you know, so Mei can actually have the strength of 100 warriors

[robust crane]

HoO was revived through hofi so I doubt it tho

[willow perch]

No point giving HoO a Dkey, HoFin's Iskander + Waxing boosted her enough

What we should prefer is APHO Mei

[strange crystal]

I'm hoping for Bronya Silverwing to get one.

1. It's her current drip in P2 story
2. She got jump/aerial attack
3. Hoyo can save resources for a BIO ICE valk instead of releasing a replacement

It's good for my empty wallet too.

[willow perch]

We'd finally get a Silverwing that performs closer to her APHO version

[earnest forge]

that would nice too since we all got her for free a few weeks ago 🙂

[naive briar]

Mei APHO battlesuit should be coming

[willow perch]

[robust crane]

[willow perch]

[versed garden]

HoV divine key next

[rain spindle]

still on copium?

[strange crystal]

The remaining valk that are subject to replacement or DK DLC are:

• PSY Ice HoHE
• BIO Ice SW
• BIO Lightning Aponia
• QUA Ice Nyx
• QUA Physical/Bleed Susannah

Then new battlesuits for:

• BIO Bleed
• MECH Bleed
• IMG Bleed
• SD Ice
• SD Fire

[robust crane]

All Ic is bleed

[earnest forge]

Hoyo seems to have forgotten about their Proud Queen.

[versed garden]

[strange crystal]

She'll get DK DLC in HI3's 10th anniversary.

It's only 8th anniv atm. Just 2 more years, right on time for APHO 3

[earnest forge]

the only HoV and Water Djinn content that I'm getting nowadays is fan animations reminding me how awesome they are

[full iris]

You forgot elemental + bleed

can't let lightning and physical hog all them bleed dmg

[strange crystal]

I separated bleed as 5th element

PSY Bleed (Lightning) Luna
QUA Bleed (Physical) Susannah
SD Bleed (Physical) Griseo

That's why the remaining are BIO, MECH and IMG

Who knows, maybe Silverwing DK DLC will get Bleed

[full iris]

inb4 freeze gonna be a new element soon

and paralyze

all the possible combinations, and that's not counting AR types

someone gotta do the math, the formula is somewhere in my brain but I'm too lazy to do it

[muted mauve]

You mean those that haven't had a update in P2?

Physical:

• Bio: Senti (2023)
• Psy: HoRb (2023)
• Mech: Misteln (2023)
• Qua: Susannah (2023)

Fire:

• Bio: FoV (2023)
• Mech: Sirin (2023)
• SD: -None-

Ice:

• Bio: SW (2021)
• Psy: HoH (2022)
• Qua: Nyx (2021)
• Img: HoTr (2022)
• SD: -None-

Lightning:

• Bio: Aponia (2022)
• Psy: Luna (2023)
• Img: HoO (2023)

[dry delta]

I mean bleed

[strange crystal]

Something like this

[edgy drift]

People assuming the element matters for qua valks

Nyx replacement was VV, VV replacement was Teri (and Sparkle as copilot)

Susannah is just a bleed valk with qua as a side gig