#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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Same lmao
Rita ded 
Vita took her place, and she's coming for Ai-chan next
in the end you can only play Vita
Imagine if she's farmable
ajita new form in a tournament arc trust
A-Rank Ajita? 
Hmm Ajita looks more like astralOp material 
we can probably get both valk and aop tbh
insulting 
8.0 is gonna be Mei from apho or something
Could it be that they're gonna update the whole trio with divine keys cuz in the spot where Kiana's diviney key is it goes up to sinc lvl 3 or am I being delusional
You can synergy new weapons 
Ya, waxing moon x3 for more ATK
Forgot that existed tbh
same as she always was just updated combat ult and new weapon
another chapter goes by with Kiana still not rescued
"Fine. I'll do it myself."
Get 15 Iskandar pieces while at it
I mean type like PSY or BIO 
…that's what type means right? I'm not getting dementia right?
Mei is clearly a katana user, though, so I'm not sure how they'd keep her part 2 specialized
unless she's ust A rank, part 2 char, part 1 weapons?
She is gonna jump in because Helaia will be in danger and we will be like "woah" 
you die in a game you die for real type beat
qte ring 
Prob like they did with Kiana just whole new battle suite instead of new weapon
or Mei goes full teacher and saves Coralie because she hasn't turned in her research paper yet
Now we're cooking 
eepyTeri uses Thelema's claw things iirc
Chakrams are Pardo/ Susbear/ Aponia/ Ai Chan
God maybe I am getting dementia 
Now i wonder how would Mei look if the avatar you get is the idealized version
Finality's a pt 1 character, invited to the pt 2 club via a special gun (pt 1 weapon type, pt 2 launch)
so, for APHO Mei to be a part 2 character, she'd either need a new weapon type ("uh, nagamitsus, totally different from katanas"), or just use a specific subset of katanas, or be a weaker part 2 char with strong, pre-existing part 1 weapons
I'm curious tho, does it have to be a new weapon type from part 2 for any particular reason?
Or is the reason really just "prevent players using existing weapons as substitute"?
pattern recognition
it doesn't have to, but mhy have been extremely hesitant to let in part 1 weapons
like, Coralie's hammers could easily be greatswords, but then nobody would grind for synergy 2
or Helia's crossbows, should be pistols
or sleepyTeri not using her crosses anymore
Just give her a drive core or trick staff

the staff looks like a katana, and that's the trick? 
Not another drive core that would be 3rd in a row
I can't see it anymore
Oh no what a shame
Lightning drive core
...3rd lightning >:)
pretty much
if there's a new Mei, everybody will just use Seven Thunders or Key of Limp Biscuit or whatever
and that's bad for the crystal mines
Limp biscuit 
Greatswords never had been popular anyway. Too clunky that they just gave up after delta
maybe that's why they killed himeko
trouble is, there are "greatsword" weapons that are clearly hammers
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Ai-chan's_Hammer
Mie should get this but with kiana
Deltas fun tho
she already has One Salty Tuna
Key of castigion?
She is, I like Delta.
But her lore hurts so much
they could just give Mei a new Divine Key, similar to Finalikitty
"Key of Mars," with APHO outfit as a skin for HoO
tbf that's from aprils fools iirc
but I see the point you're making
Feels bad tho, if you're a Mei fan
since SW was her own battlesuit (even if it's to update Bronya's model)
could be worse
could be an Astral OP
...though that would let Kiana and Mei join together in battle, and be kinda cute
Kiana saying mei senpai during activation 
...ok I take it back, I kinda want this
what a big cost for some fluff, and there's already mei in the team
two Meis, Kiana's dream come true
oh yeah, the tutorial thing mentioned you can still use Herrscher Trio, I just wasn't paying attention because I don't have Truth
They added effects to HoO and HoTr stigmas for a reason 
It'd look so weird if it's APHO Mei skin for HoO thinking about it 
Dkey for HoO wouldn't make much sense
She got massively buffed from HFI's dkey and set already, and those require AR to not be activated to apply
Use Luna lead 
I mean, this would be after Sparkle, smol Dudu, Ajita, Chenxue, Leyla, and probably another Teri Teri, so the power creep will have advanced by then anyway
Ye, but it still would void out all iskandar buffs for her
Trio already got their thing, they won't get another
wait did they translate this wrong???
why does it say with astral ring activated 
yup
how did they manage that 
same as usual
When does cn get more story
pretty sure HoO wouldnt get a dkey anyways, but if they did
would it work if the dkey gave her dps buffs for astral ring inactivated, and support buffs for astral ring activated 
it could
Imagine same fir dudy and Rita and seele and bronya
How is senas M stig still mistranslated
smol indie company pls understand
Can confirm, old-school KekHoyo shenanigan. It's only when Astral Ring not activated. This is why I prefer CN version over English TL's.
When Part 2 team basically
but it activates with p1 team 
P2 Mei about to be real 
Reminder mini vitas translation and dialogue is still missing in the museum
Omg small indie company moment please be understanding they work so hard 
Question though if they make apho Kiana mei bronya a thing? How are they gonna do that? Since SW is very outdated in terms of dmg? 
SW dkey 
Hofin got dkey so she's up to p2 standard and a apho mei would be a p2 Valk and sw would be far behind 
Can a apho mei 3pc stigmata set really boost her up to p2 standards like how new hofin stigmata did to hoo? 
Sure it can
That stigmata 3pc needs to essay length for SW 
the bronya pt 2 stig makes you do math problems in the middle of battle to do damage
'when equipped by apho mei and astral ring is activated increase SW final dmg by 1000%' 
Just gotta bump up numbers
If they wanna keep her gameplay the way it is they can just make her RoO like Kiana
just add a retroactive buff to SW kit like they did with HoTr
give apho trio joint bursting 
Or they can give her a new gimmick by giving her a new AR type
give SW a dkey that replaces her entire kit with the apho kit + replace astral ring with moon ring

What
But like
Shes physical in apho...
tl issue ig?
easy, they won't 
Wouldn't be surprised, since Astral Ring creates like three distinctions for the team state lol (activated/not activated, Stellar Outburst and Astral Charging)
SW gameplay makes me sleep 
I love sw gameplay
I shall manifest an SW DK that makes all her attacks do 1 damage but makes all of her attacks deal 999999999 damage instances
But her attack speed is at a x.0000[..x10000...]0001
insta crash the game
And thus MHY scraps the DK after many complaints, once again consigning Boobnya to the Powercrept Realm
Not like they aren't gonna give Bronya something for part 2 
She's hoyo's favorite you think they aren't gonna let her get some random buff
from a certain point of view, Bronya's "something for part 2" is just Coralie
Does that mean Coralie is Bronya's niece or aunt
Younger cousin
Bronya and Coralie are both kinda daughters of Welt
Ye but she also calls Einstein mom
different moms, same dad
half sisters?
weirdge
Bronya is his pupil, not child
Bronya did kinda make a big deal about not taking Welt's name, so the offer was there. Kinda a stepdad thing
Where's my hsr crossover boss 
Why do you always like the valks with terrible gameplay
That is not true
Just because aponia is different doesnt mean shes bad (meta wise she is)
Nah
Don't like how slow the support mode is, the DPS mode is hardly relevant these days and the battlesuit needed a skin fix which cost extra crystals
FoV better
what even is HoRB's gameplay? Hold a button, 50/50 you throw pollen at the enemy or a random deer shows up?
You havent even learned to play her properly smh
she has two forms and all of her animations are exceptionally pretty
yes i have there's no depth to her you just pray supports ult combo pray repeat

*Lumbering
Is what I'd use
I do like the DPS mode but
Hardly get to use it anymore
how is she slow
She is in support mode
she's just so perfect i can't
no she's not
Gotcha, she is
explain
Just pull ranks to ult asap
She's slow to me. She's not to you
💳
Difference of opinion, so we leave it at that
ok
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dZ421T7oF/
This was fun to do
She still has some fun aspects
Her aoe atk is so huge it almost cover some of the combat stage 
no techs to learn, nothing special about her, all her rots are the same
(they're actually not but people aren't ready for that info)
and you can say that of the majority of valks tbh
Right
The mechanic is like.. support > support > dps for most comps 
Then there's aponia who is entirely different
rots and inputs vary for a lot of valks
yeah a lot of valks have no or very little depth to them but aponia's is just so in your face she's so damn boring
when does her rot change lol
Did you know Apo has anicancels 
on which attacks though
I dunno... Aponia, HoRB, and arguably Songque and Vita all kinda fall into "float around and pelt the screen with zappy zaps"
at least Vita has a giant tail whip... thing... and feels like she's actually calling in heavy space artillery
That sounds like hrb to me with the amount of screentime and animations she have 
can cancel a basic with ult for free dmg
there are like 5 different openers for S0 support lol
Doesn't change what I said
Songque has the odd "benefit" of her actual animations being inferior to something the devs probably intended as a throwaway mechanic for her
P2 offers different mechanics tbf
Actually different to p1s
I pretty much just notice the "oh yeah, I can jump here" thing
and the astral op variant QTE's
Is it the thing where u can ult during combo to end her combo early?
I wrote what it is just below
Oh
I said combo not basic maybe its sum i dont know
Whats that do
well it gives you an extra basic
still more dmg than not doing it
I suppose
Not like aponia has anything
she has a cool hat?
nah, the summer hat
Beautiful hat
is sparkle gonna be on battlesuit supply/carry pity
regular gacha S rank
Yes, why wouldn't she
idk i dont play this game often so i dont know how collabs work
nice
Asuka for the Evangelion Collab was different because MHY doesn't own Asuka, so she's truly Limited
Day 114
which support is better for songq dps lantern or sera? if my other supp is vita
It's basically when FGO does a Collab with another Fate IP. The character is permanently a part of the game and can be rerun at any time because the IP is still owned by the same parent company
theyre gonna give out hohe too right or smth like that
Do you mean Senadina?
yesss
Because Sera(peum) is an Astral Op
ohh yeaah mb i got confused
How can aponia gameplay be bad when her WA gives a close up shot of her
🛐
but which is better I don't know who to get lantern or sena i just want my sonq to work 
Okay thats not related 
How's sparkle support for anything? or what are her support tags?
And is she dependent on weapon for support?
did you try reading what it does 
But for a simp like me it's a game changer

Nope 
I like aponia and it does nothing for me
I think Sena if no Thelema but Lantern has a smoother rotation with Songque in my experience.
Most people probably gonna say Sena tho due to her other support utilities

you know what to do then
Alright.... no tldr? 
she probably drops even harder than Thelema is your tl;dr
thanks for it have you tried sonq with vita and lantern? like is it viable
I have not, because Vita lacks the Harmonized Shadow Star tag that gives Lantern full uptime during Stellar Outburst
Ah, tf is wrong with my brain

Yeah, I haven't tried it
She has it tho 
Read too fast, processed the wrong things
Thaaank youu I didn't knew that maylbe I'll just try to build my sonq from scratch
Vita and "lacks tag" should not go in the same sentence
Vita has all tags currently available

I am actually curious since Vita has phys breach, but Songque has that critical rate thing to deal with
I skimmed it over, is it mainly the timestop on her ult?
not ult, it's her combo iirc
thelema wep gives her 3 extra seconds of time stop after ult
sparkle wep gives her an extra collapse on ult and 1.5 seconds of time stop on her persona headshot move 
oh nvm
probably fine for low rank redlotus
"Persona headshot"
PERSONA-
yes
Even without weapon she can do 1 collapse right?
yeah but 2 is better than 1 
A Loki user cooler than the actual overhyped Loki user
Yeah with weapon it is Double Collapse
does sparkle ult transfer both collapses? or just the original one?
Omg I can't wait to get sparkle from adv so I can use her with my sirin 
Only other options I got for her at that point is just vita hofin dk Coralie simp senadina 
sirins gonna be extremely dead dead by that point
Adv
Don't they put like a 7-version minimum on those after release
something like that yeah
Yeah I'm getting sss vita via adv so I should get sparkle from adv by like second or third adv run
It's 8 patches for a Valk to get a adv
If using Ult on Team Members?
I haven't tested it, so do not know how it actually work. But I understand it as upon using Ultimate on Team Members, Sparkle inlficts Qua Collapse, and when the Team Member use Ultimate within 15s, their Ultimate will inflict an additional Qua Collapse
Wait lemme test that right now
Currently is Sparkle BiS support for Sena or teri? on any boss?
really curious if support sparkle still has double collapse with her wep 
Don't see anything restricting her from not doing so 
well wep says her ultimate applies additional collapse
but if you use support ult, i dont think it deals dmg?
Please test vill v sparkle hotruth

BGM - White Coffie
Mimi are you sure 5:43 isn't a maintenance video?
Thoughts:
Okay I'll be blunt. S0 Sparkle support sucks. She's almost always guaranteed to not have enough SP to use ultimate every rotation without doing a few more hits/adding in an extra combo. It also doesn't help that this beta account is riddled with a lack of divine key...
I haven't played Vill-V 

Using Ult on Team Members does not deal DMG
Too much reading, my brain is smoked for today. I'll try to understand sparkle tomorrow 
Man I wish I had vill v she looks like so much fun to play with

huh, in this vid sparkle ult > vv qte gives double collapse? unless vv collapses at the very beginning of her ult cast, but i dont think thats how she does it 
wtf actual hsr gameplay 
Do we know who's coming this after HTr this BP season
Vill-V about to get bullied by Vita
hare
vill v already too dead smh
she had like 3 bosses

wtf is going on here 
Vill v on top
🛐
does vv collapse immediately when she ults, even before the animation starts?
VV collapse is on the hit
They did vill v so wrong she only got one adv while the other FCs got like 2-3
does that mean you can actually get triple collapse then? 
2 immediately on cast and then 1 on qua valk ult hit?
4 layer qua boss with no mechanics to reduce qua count when unless vita does that already 
When Sparkle use Ultimate on Team Members, within 15s, chosen Team Member's Ultimate can inflict double collapse, if she has her Masked Yo-yo.
I was hoping that if the Team Members is a QUA Character since they already have Qua Collapse on Ultimate, that Team Member will inflict triple Collapse, but no 

…I just realized I forgor to do ER.. I haven’t played this game in too long

that sounds like a bug
So sparkle is just gonna make qua into an absolute joke
or a sting?
shoo
Turns non qua valks into qua valks AND execute on hp threshold?
I shall excuse myself via the window, bye bye
Don't think her Qua collapse is as good as Teri's.
Why do I feel like these will be the famous last words?
And turn qua valks into quaer valks
Sparkle good for finisher
Teri gets 2 ults for 2 collapse, Sparkle gets 2 collapse on one ult
Teri doubles the amount of collapse you can do from dodging a Quantum attack
She doesn't tho
she just removes the need to attack after the dodge (or to dodge at all)
Just tested it with Teri, she inflicts Triple Collapse.
Just because the Qua Collapse on her Ultimate during Stellar Outburst is delayed,
she inflicts Collapse upon Ultimate hits and Sparkle Support Collapse is triggered upon Team Member's casting Ultimate
WAIT WHAT
Okay i knew the exectute part
By "upon casting" you mean the Sparkle trigger ?
did they fix the qua pig bug
Remember that Sparkle has a passive to incrase Qua teammate damage
You are totally meant to use both together
no, only can do collapse by ult
Cause all QUA ults do the collapse on the attack hitting and not on cast
Dodging a Quantum Attack with Teri procs 1 Quantum Collapse from the Passive.
Attacking after dodging the Quantum Attack will proc the normal Quantum collpase.
It's 2.
Ohhh sorry, just not used the proper term
What?
Idt that's how it was supposed to work 
Anyways, imagine dodging an attack when you can cause 4 collapse by existing
I used it on SSS Tonatiuh
Teri V2 is only Auto-Collapse no dodge needed
Teri V3 they fixed and enables double collapse upon evading qua attacks
So works as intended
I still find it interesting that Sparkle's collapse from the ult buff is on an instant AOE on the frame the ult is cast and not an added effect to the attack hitting
That probably what bugs the other qua character's collapse on ultimate
The others don't get their own collapse after Sparkle's trigger ?
Their Ultimate only triggers Sparkle Collapse
Uh, did you try with FR too since hers is stupidly delayed ?

Do we know if Sparkle will be limited or permanent like Fischl
Sparkle Perma ig
they dont say anything about her rerun, but from what we see, no chance that she wont
collab event is permanent, no reason for her to be once time only
FR in 2024 is wild
any rita suit in 2024 is wild
we just got floating space Rita 
it's called bug testing my guy
New bad old good since change bad




Miki, have you converted a card to celebration supply car? Is it permanent?
I'm thinking of keeping 1 each if it's permanents
celebration cards are not permanent
they'll expire after the banner ends

More like the usual tickets converted
Not the event given 10x tickets
I think was the question
The free tickets are understandable that it expires
I'm thinking something like genshin card maybe, it doesn't expire
Might be written in the news, but i think they are permanent
pretty sure the other cards also expire and give you back a regular one
Those you convert
It expires to stardust I read
the free 10x will expire, and I'd assume the ones you convert in the cash shop will also expire
otherwise I'd hoard these myself lmao
Same same
try it
I'm not gonna waste a card on converting it for no reason
I'm low on crystals so nah
I'm waiting for the thelema banner to open so I can finally use the ticket and get my HoFi card
No
this isn't the case ?
U can use them in the next celebration banner
I was referring to these converted ones 
oh I see 
Say I pull on Thel tomorrow with the free, get nothing, and then I wait until the other free multi given on Friday (MHY why)
That pity stays until the next Thel rerun (on next Sunday) I assume?
That's nice but the ridiculous timegate is still annoying, especially as the multis don't work for focus either
It's just a few days 
should i invest in vita or sparkle or skip both of them i only have one s rank of part 2 so far😭
vita
if you get vita tho you'll need HoFi too
even though i have senadina full built?
sena doesnt work with vita
nono i just thought bc i had one good lightning valk i wouldnt need vita
well, i guess you could actually use sena/vita/helia since helia weap is free if u do story rn
oh i have helia and coralie fully built and sena fully buit
and her stigs are free you have to craft them
oh
you can use sena/vita/helia if you absolutely 100% know you can't get HFI
does getting hofi seem good for the long run tho
but if you can get HFI you should
im kinda broke i only got 10k crystals 😭
yes. great world star resonance detonator
oh shes actually going to stay i thought shed end up like the other valks who got revived and died within 2 patches
we'll see. for now she seems like she's got a couple patches on her for support and trio will probably be unrivaled on IMG content for a longggg while
vita + HFI is a very good dual support combination for any WS dps that isn't phys (we don't have a phys WS yet)
But Vita works with Sena
but you need iskandar and dkey for her to function as a pt2 support
yes
wait whats iskandar and which dkey
iskandar is HFI's new stig set (craftable in foundry)
as for the dkey, you need waxing moon, HFI's new weapon
20 free ani card, use banner char or weapon latern better if i Dont have either
sena > thelema >>>> lantern assuming you dont have any of them
I mean with 20 card hard to get char, if roll banner weapon, chance get weapon higher and can get 2 stigma too
wait which cards do you have? Fes, battlesuit, or equipment supply
and who are you trying to go for? Vita, HFI, sena, thelema, or lantern
you can't use the free pulls on gear
oh fes card for char only? I see
coping for s2 thelema with the 2nd card but I know it's not gonna happen, i just need the spending event credit 
ajita is so
🛐
but I cant handle another lightning 

Lighting my favorite type in the game 
lightning is so cool and ajita's is the coolest
dont give up 
💳
Mines was 54/60 
+10 atk
now get two dupes for an extra +10 atk

ye
I only have Vita and HoFin DK as part 2 characters. Who should I pull next meta wise? I don't have any SD characters so either Sena or Songque.
probably either sparkle or whatever comes after her 
Neither u save for next patch


All my crys for vita
And she came so late
86 pity

Now my only hope is er
34 valk i still in lv 10

But it’ll take days to farm all
just use ER lite
1.0?
Yes




what card
login 7 days get sw/sirin and 15 cards

lets goo
the anniv stats says i got 184k crystals this past year, that's 15k a month with monthly pass, that doesnt add up, what did you guys get?
f2p
seem low, i think they didnt count something
How do I find this?
anni annual report, i guess glb will get it in few hours
#glblul needing to wait 

Herrscher trio on top

yeah ok coping carl 
It's not copium
herrscher trio are stronger than ever

apparently not since I also got 6/20 with no trio, and no hofi to make vita DPS viable either 

Ur bracket is just slack, u would demote in mine

Yea i missread the score 

Just you all wait if 7.9 has a hofin adv my hofin will be SS2 and be extremely strong 
This demotes in my brack, with +10D 
And demote because 7.9 weathers are qua which counters trio

yeah, the number doesnt seem to add up 

I’ll just use senadina hofin dk helia for quantum
img down
where vita 
Gone
In salt and snow when you are in the museum and check out the display mini vitas lacks translation for one her lines
So, a big selling point of sparkle for p1 fire teams is the double ult per rotation. Therefore it would be logical to assume DA doesn't really benefit from that at all
Waiting for adv 
she's primarily ignite support
How will they sell us Chenxue ? 
They wont 
As astralop maybe 
even the game tells that
Can i get Sirin main weapon for free ?
by using crystals
bigger buff for siren but not enough to make her better
hear someone said S0 FoV still better than SSS siren
just hope they buff her till doesn't need to use hotr in v3
why not just use sporkle with lantern instead of sirin
I don't know if thats true or not but I definitely would play S0 FoV over SSS Sirin

at least siren still have her niche
that's for sparkle p2 dps, not p1 support
Sparkle is not gonna save Sirin from being garbage lmao 

cuz sirin gameplay is back loaded unlike FoV gameplay that has constant dps
What About Sparkle With FoV
a bit upgrade for her
Why is SSS sirin dmg so low 
There's literally just a 3 patch difference between them 
1 is farmable, 1 is not

her weather is her biggest buff
But S0 > SSS 
This discussion is beter in beginners help but consider one is free and the other is not, also sirin is for ignite weather

But my investment into sirin

Idk what boss apart from that she has tho
U shoulda followed ur own words and saved for adv instead

rita is the only boss sirin excels
the rest FoV should be top score


Is this the new puke element?
no thats sirin damage in colour codes
you heal the enemy 

Can we finally annoy hoyo into adding a training room outside of beta

In exchange we have no more beta

We have Ai-chan Training Room 
for what tho 
Okay but I'd like that without being forced to go through the auto play tutorial
to test and try scenario
there's no point for one
Also is P1 trio BIS for symphony weather again or does senalemalamp still outdamage
Herrscher trio on top
Congrats to all the people who have em
I could gone and BPd HoO and HoTr equipment if I nee beforehand 
you'd barely be able to get one piece of HTR equipment this patch from BP
but still p2 trio is more useful
So i dont need Sirin i can just make dps sparkle cool
tru
what's boss
iirc there is no boss img in symphony weather, still P2 stuff
Kebin
isnt symphony abt dmg types rather than debuffs?
i think theres prob a fair comparison with s2 ss ss+ p1 trio now vs p2
oh wait need cc debuff right
only frozen, stun and paralyzed
the frick
we gonna have RoO astral op i can feel it


unnecessary
Can you change the bridge music on hyp11
SSS Skills of Songque and Sera have buffs for the special ATKs of their specialisations (resonance and shadow star attack) which RoO doesn't have so it's unlikely
unless they release another roo character

Or does it only work in the story mode
we alr have like 3 roo chars already
THEY'RE ADDING SENTI STIGS TO THE SHOP??????
One is ass so...
but not ass in er 
Next char we get is gonna be a phys world star whos resonance atk can directly dmg the seed like pe ult

Oh ye btw
How often do we get dkey boxes
Mainly for the really old ones they're never gonna rerun


Artbook is different patch from cn server?
well, nothing is confirmed, we only know that no artbook this patch
but you can expect artbook in our anni
all server expect cn will celebrate anni in the same patch during spring
Tf
Aint no way its actually bleed abyss
Because mhy said so
not our anni yet, keep waiting
Man why is sparkle S rank I accidentally got vita because of the free 10x pull when I had 8 pulls left for guaranteed
Now pity reset and need 80+ pulls
I have 30 pulls out of 80 so no sparkle
Vq


Really? VQ doesn’t just get out damaged by vita? 

It's still bleed abyss, and transition has a hitcount shield 
What's bleed weather again? 40% DMG while bleeding and 45% bleed DMG?
That makes sense 
1.4x1.45 is crazy buff
Lv ce kira could work here right?
Type disadvantage but sure 

Do I sq vita bruteforce it then
thelema with P1 support

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Is Sparkle banner confirmed to be permanent or is it only running once?
There isn a reason on why they wouldnt rerun it


Rip ring regen
kill boss in 1 rot or die
they only say when a valk is once time only, they dont say anything to normal gacha valk
given what we see, sparkle should have rerun
if she doesn't rerun they will have notice like "due to copyright reasons you can't get her after the event ends"
and sparkle is hoyo own

collab event is permanent, no reason for her to be once time only
hoyoverse will sue mihoyo 
She’ll be like fischl not like how asuka was
Except the whole being character is farmable part
What will CE do?
vita hofi kira with bleed gun trust
nice cope

Which support is better for sonque thelema or lantern? If my other supp is vita
situational i think
Songque thelema lantern for kalpas 
thel
If for sd bosses lantern is better?
most cases
Thanks for it
sd boss should be sena thel
My prob is that I can't cover some bosses like sd I take too long

Unfortunately I don't have sena but I'll try to get her
dont need to worry about that, songque isnt really a big deal to care about
My part 2 team is only vita and sonque with hofi dkey and sera op
feel like i rarely use songque in the last 2 patches
I haven't used her except when leveling up in er 
i still use her in ma kek
MA 
So I should go for thelema then to cover general?
if you can get her, ye
just save for future valk unless you whale
Thank youuu
I'm thinking about that too
But it's still hard to cope and wiat
full vita team alone should be enough for red lotus
What's full vita team?
Bita HoFi coralie
Vita hofin dk coralie
That's true too I just want my songq to work 
Use Helia Coralie if you don't have HoFi + dk
Sonque and vita will be the best supports for new astral ring type that's coming in the future just wait for that tbh

Few supply ticket freebie 
The valk right not the op?
Yes vita and sonque both have an ??? Support Tag the only 2 valks in the game that have that
Sparkle has it too
OHHHHHH DIDN'T SAW THAT THANK YOUUU
When does cn get more story
They will like have 7.9 in week 2 if you check the calendar in pins
unconfirmed.
They are competing with Sparkle.
Sry wasn't aware that sparkle hat that tag too but they both still will be good supports for that tag anyway right ?
yes, but we dont know how good or if they cover different niche
we literally have no info until we get a valk with the ring specialization
kinda suck when you dont really know what you are pulling for
What if smol dudu is another qua but physical shieldbreaker that will replace ta and buff horb/dreamweaver.
don't think we will get more qua
good idea
Yeah then after a couple of patches the units we built become obsolete
coralie best support t50

that is why you just pull what you like
meta will always throw any valk in the drain in the future 

That is a gross exaggeration
Mobius top scoring a boss while 26 patches old still

Not really part 1 valks got powercrept so much by part 2 valks and there's a lot of valks after 3 patches became obsolete they're only used in some niche bosses
CE tease

P1 was like 8 years long
Sure the later valks got screwed a bit but lv and FoV still see use
that is how the game works, every boss is "niche" 
Also what valk became obsolete in 3 patches 
nyx

real valks you mean, the valks who is actually out of the question?
There's a lot but most notably vill v when she was released she was a great quantum but other valks can just brute force and not need her
Ok you're just listing the valks literally everyone skipped lmao
nah villv owns qua until vq
people just don't want to roll on villv
No one skipped my queen, she’s one of the best selling and don’t slander my queen

sue you can use alts in it, but you have to have hands
Horb was a good example but she is still used now but before her release was around part 2 the only time she shine again was there's a phys
What
Well obviously she's only good against phys did you expect her to excel in fighting ice or fire bosses...
Literally dedicated impair support
That's why was before on her release you can't use her so much because of part 2 valks
Oh yeah let's use her to fight parvati
She was released like 5 patches before bfr
even on her release HoRb was basically just phys support
she has dps mode but its kinda scuffed
most people are gonna use a phys valk on a phys boss, and a different valk on a non phys boss
She was released i think a patch before part 2 if memory serves me right
Your memory is serving you wrong


7.3 was p2
HoRb was 6.8
And there wasn't a time to use her in part 2 because there wasn't a boss that she is needed most of it needed part 2 valks
Ive most definitely used HoRb since part 2
hrb dps owns her feature mech boss + SKs, tho mpe isn't that far off on those SKs
Only 5 out of the 16 abyss cycles in 7.3 were p2 related
they somewhat recently made a new boss for HoRb dps, starless SK
also CN just got bleed senti, where you can use her again
And how many times did a niche of a valk is released for vill v i think only once and sometimes even none in a patch
vill v has always been niche, because shes a quantum valk
theyve always been like that
Yeah but the prob with vil v is that you can use other unit to brute force her niche
that applies to like everything
very few bosses are completely un bruteforceable, if any
In today's episode of "broad strokes to strike an argument"
Then you did prove my point a valk only lives for a few patches then they either get powercrept or wait for their niche to come
That, again, applies to just about everyone and everything
I used solo Vita earlier to brute force the universal mirage Floor 6 Kallen Stage 
What is the core of the point being made here

What kinda lame ass argument
it killed my fingers, but it worked
Sheep wtf
whats mount input
wtf are you okay
noodles asked if it was possible so I tried it, I actually had to do it twice because I ran out of time the first run
Mount Rushmore
never heard of it 

Wow p2 really immediately crept P1 guys
bro forgot to pause
Excuse my handwriting
now do it with sirin, she has hp loss on her charge atk if you ranked her 

Also I think bleed vv was lv not VQ now that I think about it
bro just asked me to play Sirin
I forgot
dew it
if pins serves right, sparkle also gonna support p1s, so the game probably just gonna mix p1 and p2 on the meta instead of going p2 completely 
thats gonna be a no from me

was vqs before lv anyways
yes
i should bonk Sia for encouraging self abuse


being told to use Sirin is traumatizing 
I should Freeze Incident him
bro I rather use fov than sirin 
sirin is fine as it looks, but her gameplay is rly ass
i wanna SS HoTr 
Well obviously
Khai going full broke this patch
just like me
Im gonna maybe skip even 8.0 just to recover
if 8.0 is small dudu im gonna be mad
I won't be mad for a skip patch
cause i would want her too besides Sparkle
Why are they making everyone children
Please stop
If you're going to make me pull a meta defining valk at least make her an adult
Seeing child dudu has me audibly sighing in dismay
If she ends up being valk then Im skipping out of sheer principle

child good
Principles are not enough to keep me from nirv but if she sucks I'll skip

she's gonna be so meta defining, your account is instantly bricked if you skip
would happily brick my account if it meant i didnt need to pull that thing
if you skip you get carted back to Abyss basics
i can t skip Dudu no matter what
skip smol dudu and recieve new DA dkey 
DA in 2024
ofc 
i will take that as a no
I'd just play casually and my account will never be bricked

too late, your casual account is now bricked
nuh uh
nuh uh


Why can I literally listen to the sfx even when it ain't there?

chronically online

doro
atl child dudu is wearing clothes
PFF
I hope she becomes playable
she'll probably become playable
we did just go back in time to a point where she was still alive
see you next years
Nah shes gonna be 8.0 who is an img phys world star with the reso dmging the seed

inb4 Ajita is 8.0 Astral OP
wdym, it's more rare than making small character adult
i’m new when does the next patch colander get released?
is it before the patch or during
No we get them when cn gets reach that specific date

ohh ok is there a specific time that’ll happen or just whenever?
It is very specific, specificly when cn gets them
I.e. we get week 1 of 7.9 calender after cn gets week 1 of 7.9

what's colander
Noodle strainer smh


rip ningyo, batteries unplugged 
Do we have a crystal calculator for this version 😭
Cause I am going through a lot rn


calculate yourself is the best
i use this https://vgt789.github.io/Honkai-Crystal-calculator/
doesnt count events, u'll have to add manually to current xtal count
math in 2024
i dont think i be able to get sparkle unless i luck out i have like 5 k crystals :c
meth
helia

very simple basic level math for toddlers
sera 
now that i've got everything i set out to get this ver
time to flush everything into sera's supply 
sparkle can wait
just to be clear sera can be used in wod teams right
even elemental ones?
Sera can be used on any team with harmonized Shadow Star trait
I forgot sorry
no news
ded game
need SS to beat S songque for elemental teams
guys, if Sparkle is on a top up patch, is she a bait?
aint no way we having top up patch again
She is bait beacause she is qua who needs teri who is also qua

according to moriso and the others, 7.9 is top up patch
triple part 2 Qua team when ?
are they reviving my QUA queen Fallen Rosemary?
Never 


every patch since p2 started has always been a top up patch or spending patch except thelema. so every top up patch has been bait to you?
fair. Also yes, every gacha is bait for me in all honesty.
You really like being baited I see
you can say I am being master baited

also is it worth to synergy 3 hofi dkey for bonus stat or nah? f2pbtw
Nope
okay thanks


