🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[bitter stone]

Imagine

Getting advices

[tepid jetty]

Bro is literally an npc talking about something he don't know

[final locust]

i dont have EoP and she's dead without it so

[bitter stone]

On a clueless random

Maaaan

[tepid jetty]

Absolute cinema

[gleaming imp]

Get her for the free dorm experience at least get A rank

[bitter stone]

I'll stop talking to you then, no wonder your answers were so off the charts

[final locust]

so because i don't have a valk i am incapable of reading their kit? have you forgotten that all kit, weapon, and stigmata information is readily available in the collection book and character page?

[gleaming imp]

Then again I still don’t got SA because I don’t have the asterite to spare to get SA

[final locust]

i also participated in 7.7 beta, where i was able to test simp

[tepid jetty]

Yep, you have to have them to make a valid claim

[final locust]

well ofc i have her A rank i need that dorm buff

[bitter stone]

Just because you read kits doesn't mean you technically know how they actually work in live gameplays

[final locust]

that's just not true
i've used them both 4/4 anyway

[gleaming imp]

[abstract night]

Base Kit:
12 teamwide sp + 6 teamwide sp
24 paralyze trauma
34% tdm (14% breach to lv)
Stigs:
40% ldmg
Possible 60% ldt (on b idrk if its teamwide but i think its personal)
36% tdm
Wep:
20% teamwide elemental and physical dmg
18% tdt
1 lightning dmg to quantum enemies when the shield breaks
7 extra paralyze trauma on qte and ult finisher
Sync1: 2% tdt

[final locust]

now do GD

[abstract night]

Ugh

[final locust]

haha

[tepid jetty]

Ye u use them as trial valks

[final locust]

i will tell you that gear is half her kit, so look there first. her kit reading is actually not that hard

[final locust]

no i used them in EN open beta in abyss
where i was able to form rotations with them
i have also watched many refs using them

[abstract night]

..i have gd sss 4/4 i grinded her stigs from scratch
I know most of her kit

[final locust]

good purr

[bitter stone]

The problem here is you don't even have a slightest clue how they actually get applied. Not all those buffs from Eden can be applied in just one press of a button

[tepid jetty]

And guess what buddy, using them by your own, in live, is much more different than using them in beta

[bitter stone]

Pretty sure you don't even know how to make it work logically

[final locust]

it's literally not

[tepid jetty]

It is

[final locust]

yes they can
everyone that uses eden does QTE in, ult, leave
unless you're using HoT or on para sus

[tepid jetty]

Why you think people follow live rots more than beta

[final locust]

im sorry
you think i live under a rock? ive never watched any videos or refs with GD/SImp in them? what nonsense is this?
"you dont have the valk so you know nothing" makes absolutely 0 sense

[tepid jetty]

True

You can't say otherwise

You can't claim anything about a certain game without playing it

[final locust]

i can

because ive tested GD and SImp on beta, which is no different from the live server

other than bugs

[tepid jetty]

Well, live results says otherwise

Soooooo

[final locust]

what

[bitter stone]

"I've tested yada yada"

Like what

[final locust]

i honestly dont even know what you're talking about atp

[bitter stone]

1-2 times?

And then bail?

[final locust]

i tested GD and SImp at NA RL dist in beta like 30,000 times

[final locust]

no

[bitter stone]

Yet your understanding is basic at most

[tepid jetty]

Na RL, good metric bro

[bitter stone]

After all those 30k times

[gleaming imp]

Technically beta doesn’t = live since beta means STC valk and gear

[final locust]

what is STC

[gleaming imp]

Subject to change

[final locust]

they're not STC in EN beta because theyve already been released in CN

EN beta is for guide makers, CCs, and to find bugs. thats it

[bitter stone]

Yeah, whatever we got in EN beta are final

[gleaming imp]

Wait what’s the point of a EN beta then if it’s already released in CN

[final locust]

stated above

[bitter stone]

But dudes claims about valk techs are still like feet lvl

Tip of the iceberg

[final locust]

fym

there's like no depth to GD or SImp

esp GD

[bitter stone]

I bet you don't even know how Simp's Ult description buff works

You were already struggling about her stigs

[final locust]

which one

[gleaming imp]

My queen has depth like knowing when to do the CA on Eden and also timing when the dots are on the last dot to do a CA on Eden without ult

[final locust]

breach?

[bitter stone]

Work Done in Dreams is your hint

[abstract night]

SSS KIT:
20% tdt when paralyzed
12 paralyze trauma on ult
2 sp/s to all valks on the field
Insta kill nihlius
30% ldt
40% tdm
12 x .25 paralyze trauma (its under special atk)
8 teamwide sp via fancy combo
3.5 paralyze trauma via fancy combo
25% paralyze trauma increased after using ult (so kinda ..just for fancy combo after ultimate)
Wep:
7 paralyze trauma
15% lightning dmg
15% tdm
After ult team team gains 10% tdm

Stigs:
35% ldt (as long as u spend 120 sp minimum)

[final locust]

[final locust]

is that gears too

[final locust]

yes i know how that works
im not stupid

[final locust]

EoPri

[abstract night]

Forgot stigs but i added it

[final locust]

stigs do more than just that

[abstract night]

For aponia yes (maybe pt1 simp)

But other than that.
No

[bitter stone]

Are you just looking at numbers and ignore how they are applied?

[bitter stone]

Do you know how Handel T works?

Like as in literally

[final locust]

sigh... yes

[bitter stone]

Oh yeah? Prove it

[abstract night]

Handel T is just for on field teamates which is aponia and maybe simp

[final locust]

yeah

stigs also give 20% tdm tho

[abstract night]

No

[final locust]

to that

yes

[bitter stone]

We weren't we talking about Support Simp vs Eden?

[final locust]

for teammates on the field

[abstract night]

Its just for aponia and maybe simp

[bitter stone]

Why are we talking about them supporting each other?

[final locust]

i was earlier and asked breath

[bitter stone]

What a waste of time

[abstract night]

We are

[final locust]

EoPri vv important

[final locust]

this whole thing started because i said GD isn't that much worse than SImp
(i am literally not wrong. lol)

[abstract night]

I was just saying its literally just aponia and possibly simp bc idk if handel t and 3pc pt1 affects her

[abstract night]

I mentioned wep.

[final locust]

GD SSS:
basekit
20% tdt when paralyzed
12 paralyze trauma on ult
2 sp/s to all valks on the field
Insta kill nihlius
30% ldt
40% tdm
12 x .25 paralyze trauma (its under special atk)
8 teamwide sp via fancy combo
3.5 paralyze trauma via fancy combo
25% paralyze trauma increased after using ult (so kinda ..just for fancy combo after ultimate)
weap
7 paralyze trauma
15% lightning dmg
15% tdm
After ult team team gains 10% tdm
stigs
35% LDT if 120sp spent

SImp S0:
basekit
12 teamwide sp + 6 teamwide sp
24 paralyze trauma
34% tdm (14% breach to lv)
stigs
40% ldmg
36% tdm
weap
20% teamwide elemental and physical dmg
18% tdt
1 lightning dmg to quantum enemies when the shield breaks
7 extra paralyze trauma on qte and ult finisher
Sync1: 2% tdt

[abstract night]

Bold the wep stigs sync base kit

[final locust]

B is personal dmg i believe

just face it, the difference is not huge for anyone that isn't LV.

[abstract night]

U gonna do it for eden?

[final locust]

ughhh i dont wanna

[abstract night]

Itll look better

And easier to read

[abstract night]

Its ldt for 3pc

[final locust]

SImp p1 support is made mostly for LV

[bitter stone]

I mean I get it what you're trying to fight for, I know.

Eden has a lot of numbers than Simp but do you think all of them are being used?

All Simp numbers for supporting are being used that's for sure in quicker way

But what about Eden hmm?

You think someone who wants to chase scores would just pick Eden just because of more numbers and commit wasting a lot of times applying all that?

You'll run out the first buffs applied before you could even do all of them

[still condor]

which eden buffs arent easily activated? because im pretty sure they all activate on qte+ult with her wep

[bitter stone]

The Ult is a big time waster

May give a lot of buffs

But it takes too long

We usually preferred Turg on Eden before than Handel lol

[still condor]

then just remove handel and dont ult, cause ult itself only has sp regen for buffs

[bitter stone]

Outside Aponia comps

Yeah and that's gonna take out some of her buffs already

And their dear Eden won't be able to match Simp when it comes to supporting

[final locust]

it takes a maximum of 2 seconds to QTE and ult with eden. if anything SImp ult -> ult -> combo -> combo is WAY longer

[bitter stone]

Sure, depends on the situation.

[final locust]

nobody is saying GD is better. she's just not that far behind.

[bitter stone]

Do you even know Simp has timestop on both her Ults?

She is if you actually know how the buffs works

[final locust]

yes i know that. but she still takes 2 seconds+ to do stress

[bitter stone]

Like that 36% is not a regular tdm but a tdt

[final locust]

and GD has 35% LDT. your point is?

[bitter stone]

Do you know the difference between Taken multipliers and regular total damage multiplier?

[still condor]

is this the work done in dreams buff?

[final locust]

GD has actually 65% LDT and 80% tdm
LOL

[bitter stone]

You can only apply that on Ult

And you know how long the CD is?

[final locust]

yeah you use the ult on GD dingbat

[bitter stone]

That's a different thing but is also faster to apply too

Rather than what GD can do

[final locust]

if it was such a timeloss nobody would have done it when GD was the premier lightning SP support.
but they did.
the only exception was HoT, and that's because she used handel instead of GD.

it's become apparent that when talking about GD you don't know what you're talking about

oh how the turn tables

[still condor]

oh do you mean the one in 3pc?

[bitter stone]

Really? Do you think people would still use GD over Simp just for what you simply believed?

Well, I hope those people know what to do

[final locust]

no i never said anyone should use her over SImp or that she's better than SImp.

"the difference is not that big" =/= GD is stronger

[bitter stone]

The difference is quite large especially depending on how mechanics around the 3 valks is on play

[final locust]

it's not.

GD SSS:
basekit
20% tdt when paralyzed
12 paralyze trauma on ult
2 sp/s to all valks on the field
Insta kill nihlius
30% ldt
40% tdm
12 x .25 paralyze trauma (its under special atk)
8 teamwide sp via fancy combo
3.5 paralyze trauma via fancy combo
25% paralyze trauma increased after using ult (so kinda ..just for fancy combo after ultimate)
weap
7 paralyze trauma
15% lightning dmg
15% tdm
After ult team team gains 10% tdm
stigs
35% LDT if 120sp spent

SImp S0:
basekit
12 teamwide sp + 6 teamwide sp
24 paralyze trauma
34% tdm (14% breach to lv)
stigs
40% ldmg
36% tdm
weap
20% teamwide elemental and physical dmg
18% tdt
1 lightning dmg to quantum enemies when the shield breaks
7 extra paralyze trauma on qte and ult finisher
Sync1: 2% tdt

[bitter stone]

Just because she has those numbers doesn't mean it closes their gap

Wtf why you keep bringing that up when it's about technicality?

[final locust]

i never said it closed the gap. it doesnt.
GD is not that much worse than SImp

[final locust]

there's no technicality, their rotations are largely the same

[bitter stone]

"Largely the same"

[abstract night]

Simp has more teamwide sp
8 vs 18 (disregarding eden ult sp)
Paralyze trauma is basically equal (idk how the wep changes things but i just added 14 which makes it 38.375? for eden and 38 for teri)
Eden vs teri
20% conditional tdt (needs paralyzed target) vs 18% (+ 2%-sync 1) unconditional tdt
30% ldt (+35% if u ult) vs N/A
55% (+ 10% if u ult) tdm vs 70% tdm
15% ldm vs 40% ldm
N/A vs 14% breach for teris
N/A vs 20% teamwide elemental and physical dmg

[final locust]

don't disregard eden ult sp lol, you use ult every time with eden

[abstract night]

ACHOO

HoT

[final locust]

ACHOO

[abstract night]

Its not teamwide

[unique swallow]

[final locust]

HoT is dead

[final locust]

eden ult regen is teamwide no?

[unique swallow]

Hi bref

[abstract night]

No

Hi cay

[bitter stone]

No, it's only for the one who's on the field while it persists

Another thing you don't know

[unique swallow]

[abstract night]

So basically aponia and maybe simp

[unique swallow]

Wtf did I walk into

[final locust]

yeah lol

[abstract night]

Eden vs simp pt1 support

[final locust]

valkyries on the field, not teammates
so it should apply to all

[abstract night]

..no

[unique swallow]

??

[still condor]

damn you know how to have 3 valks on the field at the same time?

[final locust]

i said gap between SSS 4/4 GD is not super far behind S0 4/4 SImp

[still condor]

tell me your secret

[unique swallow]

Early story chapters

[bitter stone]

The field is the stage, not what valks you use on the entire fight will get the sp regen

[abstract night]

well uh
Aponia Simp GD

[still condor]

ok but aponia sux so

[abstract night]

:(

[final locust]

you dont know who you just said that to LOL

[abstract night]

Not the point

[still condor]

yes i do

[abstract night]

Jeez im not that delulu

[still condor]

if anything drya is worse with aponia than breath is

[final locust]

when are u gonna rank apoopoo

[abstract night]

When she goes to wt

Or i pull her from dorm

[final locust]

shes coming to dorm

spend 20k xtal on dorm trust

[abstract night]

..i know

[abstract night]

I try...i guess?

[gleaming imp]

Don’t slander my queen

[abstract night]

I mean i did get 761 (rl) when sushang came last time with S0 aponia S0 LV SSS GD

[still condor]

you forgot the 🛐

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

My aponia is only S2, could’ve been SS2 if I was smarter and not blind

[tepid jetty]

Sss when

[final locust]

SImp where breath

[abstract night]

#1 i dont have simp wep so paralyze trauma dead
#2 eden was better there anyways

[final locust]

WHERE SIMP WEAP BREAHT

[abstract night]

23 till

[final locust]

didnt know u were broke like that

[still condor]

i need 5 more pulls

[abstract night]

I decided to pull htr wep

I just need to wait for her to be given for free

[tepid jetty]

Do the upcoming lv supply has a discount on first 10 pull?

[abstract night]

No

[tepid jetty]

[final locust]

LV in september 2024

[abstract night]

Yeah

[tepid jetty]

Yep

[abstract night]

I still use lv

[tepid jetty]

Cuz LV looks so fine

[gleaming imp]

No she should on her adv soon though

Though for gear

LV should get a adv on 7.8

[unique swallow]

Everyone and their mother is getting adv according to you

[final locust]

i will be using LV with HoO DPS

[final locust]

lantern adv soon for sure drya

[gleaming imp]

They’ve been doing advs for the p1 valks as soon as they’re available to in their timespan so reason stands she should get one on 7.8

I’ll skip out on ss hotruth and speedrun to ss lv then

[abstract night]

Ur right
I loved pulling BN Adv

[bitter stone]

That's better if you are planning to use HoO dps with hfi dlc

[vestal bronze]

I forgot who's first out seele or LV

[valid badger]

When HoFI stamps on the supply shop?

[abstract night]

When she goes in bp

[gleaming imp]

I am since lighting is my strongest out of the dmg types

[bitter stone]

Although you should go for HTR, since you can still HoO dps with, just not her normal ult lol

[tepid jetty]

Yep, I'd pull lv on her upcoming expa, and just go vita if I go short

[bitter stone]

So you enable hfi dps with dlc as well with full trio comp fof img contents

2 birds 1 stone

[vestal bronze]

Img content pardo it is

[gleaming imp]

My hotruth is S0 and 4/4 it’s just she’s S0 so she suffers from lack of S2 and SS

[bitter stone]

Atleast S2 is alright

For the extra sp

[abstract night]

She just needs s2
Ss is breach which is nice but not needed in rl

[gleaming imp]

Even with spending event and stamps in shop I’ll only be able to pick up at most 3 stamps during 7.8 so far

4 maybe if lucky with A rank dupes

[bitter stone]

Although ideally

You probably can get away with just S0 HTR

Since hfi as leader will be giving initial sp anyways for HTR

With dlc ofc

So you can go all out for Luna

[gleaming imp]

Hopefully, I'm just hoping my hofin and hoo can hold down the fort for me until I get lv

[final locust]

cant wait for HoO dps

now i will have an actual p1 lightning

[gleaming imp]

Since My hofin will be SS2 once her adv reruns and hoo is ss

[final locust]

instead of lunar garbage crimson shit

[abstract night]

Theres nothing wrong with luna

Luna also has the benefit of bleed coverage

[bitter stone]

I keep forgetting this isn't #💁gameplay-help

Ciao

[final locust]

i know i just hate not having hotr or simp

[unique swallow]

Yeah what are you doing here smh

[final locust]

shes unplayable without GD or HoTr or simp

my only support for her atm is CE

[abstract night]

Awawa disagrees

[gleaming imp]

Is your CE 4/4 and SSS?

[bitter stone]

Idk, I open discord and brought me here thinking it was that channel lol

[final locust]

i have to play LV/CE/RC
i CANNOT live like this much longer. i love her but she has to be relegated to support

[unique swallow]

[gleaming imp]

[still vine]

where kira

[final locust]

4/4 SS
i cba to SSS her for the minimal increase

[final locust]

no EoP no cecilia and S kira

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

But no SSS = eden lasts longer and better, needs SSS just to be better than eden

[final locust]

thats false

[abstract night]

When did u join

[final locust]

and i dont have GD anyway

[final locust]

7.0

[gleaming imp]

Should I bring up the potential man pic

[abstract night]

Why didnt u get EoP from firepower

[final locust]

i cant snipe

[abstract night]

In 7.3*

[final locust]

i tried but idr what i got

i think i got some random useless stig
bianka T i think

[abstract night]

Whyd u pick bianka of all things

Wait

[unique swallow]

Meet potential man!

[abstract night]

Where tf is ur hofi

[final locust]

bc i had TMB of it unlocked but it gave me it anyway?

firepower bugged check

[final locust]

my HoFi??? in 7.8 waiting to be pulled

[abstract night]

Uhuh

[final locust]

45 free pulls are my savior, i only need 30 something thousand for hofi card

[abstract night]

U need 44k

[abstract night]

Shes not even that bad.

[final locust]

yeah but 45 free pulls

[abstract night]

What.?

[unique swallow]

Until you consider that you could just GD it

[final locust]

pins

[abstract night]

Until you consider simp lv perfers ce 90% of the time
The 10% when u need paralyze
U do loose dmg if u dont use ce so

[unborn siren]

90%???? nice joke

[gleaming imp]

When ce is SSS, their CE is SS

[abstract night]

Ah ic

[abstract night]

Ty i worked hard on it

[final locust]

SSS isnt that big of a diff

[abstract night]

Its a decent difference

[final locust]

yeah ik

[gleaming imp]

I just want to say rq that vita is so 🛐

[final locust]

ok

[frail cave]

Day 86

[misty patio]

vita funds

[still vine]

[still vine]

Day 95

[gleaming imp]

Free funds so far away

[final locust]

W

wait

does mat box give 3 honkai shard?

is that 15

or is it 5

no way its 5 right

[quasi glen]

I rmb 3 per box from last anni(?)

Wait I'm dumb it says it right there

3 per box

[final locust]

OH

HOLY W IM SAVED

nvm

i need over 200 phase shifters

rip in the chat
i will have to get shards from supply shop...

[sharp quartz]

???

How can you get that?

[somber egret]

Claiming of ArtBook 3 later 12nn

[frail cave]

[nova osprey]

I mean u can buy phase shifter with asterite, and what do u need 200+ phase shifters from

[final locust]

2 weapons and 2 stigmata sets

[nova osprey]

How much does 1 wp take

[final locust]

23 i think

and stig set is NINETY

[nova osprey]

-60 because 2 insta stig max card

[final locust]

youre right wow

you saved me

[nova osprey]

Pri doestnt consume, phase shifters, unless its the base wp

[final locust]

wait no we only get 1

[nova osprey]

[fierce pendant]

Since 7.8 is out in CN, is now a good time to ask about what I should pull? If not, when?

[nova osprey]

2, 1 from anniv, 1 from artbook

[final locust]

its base wp
you need to lv base weap to get pri

[final locust]

vita and HoFi

[fierce pendant]

So now is a good time?

[final locust]

you'll get HoFi passively from spend event while pulling HoFi DK, vita, and vita wp

yes

[nova osprey]

So with 2 wps, 2 stig sets, 2 insta stig max card u would need 166 phase shifters

[final locust]

jfc thats still so much

[craggy sentinel]

login days

[fierce pendant]

Ty, so this sums up the account I have now. I have 31623 gems and I haven’t done the story yet. Based on it, which unit should I get first? Should I consider trying to get any of the units that are rerunning like Thelema?

[nova osprey]

With all the freebies im save in mats for 7.8

[craggy sentinel]

vita + hofi dkey first, thel i wouldnt pull for

[final locust]

you go for vita -> vita weap -> HoFi dkey

[fierce pendant]

K, ty

[final locust]

skip thelema. if you get lucky and get her from the 20 i would still keep her benched because shes shit without wp

[fierce pendant]

Ty

[final locust]

too rich

[nova osprey]

Use those energy smh

[final locust]

on what

i cant salvage

[nova osprey]

Those green donuts and the one right to it

[final locust]

i need to use the green donuts to level up DK for +8 atk

then i can finally start salvaging all the purple donut i get

[nova osprey]

U still havent maxxed dkey?

[final locust]

no...

[still vine]

mine will be maxed tomorrow

[final locust]

i have too little of everything omg
please save me from matz hell

[abstract night]

Mine will be maxed.. during like 8.3 or sum idk lmao

[still vine]

how, you started before me

[abstract night]

Why in the world would I play the ass called co op

Co op ..is terribbleee

I hated it sm

[still vine]

join the club me too

[abstract night]

I love that club

[frail cave]

What club? Let me in!

[craggy sentinel]

the mid club

you’re already in it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[frail cave]

[somber egret]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-honkai-laugh-giggle-cute-gif-16929007

[glass nacelle]

nice web event

6 mins

[floral fable]

um what the hell why isnt kiana coming back..

[thick prawn]

Because

[glass nacelle]

nice dev

[muted mauve]

?

[muted mauve]

OH

I see nothing wrong

[glass nacelle]

[valid badger]

[slate elm]

[restive rose]

we get 2 insta stig max cards?

[nova osprey]

1 from anniv, 1 from artbook

[restive rose]

ooooh

oki tyvm

tbh i might skip art book to buy out the shop

[somber egret]

They're so generous

[muted mauve]

[thick prawn]

[somber egret]

HONKAI ARTBOOK 3 INFO
https://imgur.com/7S8Avte.jpg

[glass nacelle]

They added more missions right

We can get artbook now

[valid badger]

[somber egret]

No, it's the same
You just get the 400 Tokens once the mission for Agony 3 and 600D opened

on GLB, I removed the 50 Tokens from Web Event in Computation, so GLB has to wait for Monday Abyss Mission

[twin dune]

Possibly the best BP

[somber egret]

If they don't replace it with other mission

[earnest forge]

what’s next abyss cycle boss

[twin dune]

Jesus CN will have war over this

[opal flint]

Is artbooks useful

[nova osprey]

Hoi

[earnest forge]

Hoi?

[nova osprey]

Collectors item

[valid badger]

Artbooks are a must when EoS comes

[somber egret]

First 20mins

[valid badger]

It's over

[versed garden]

Oh wow

[twin dune]

So fun to be on EU where artbook s guaranteed

[somber egret]

[sly plank]

good lord

[short knoll]

can resell it for money, quite useful

[naive briar]

stealing this

[urban cloud]

The art book can only be in the physical format right?
Whether you purchase it or get it from the event

[short knoll]

yes, after you buy the book item in the game, you can enter your address for shipping

[urban cloud]

Ah

[short knoll]

they dont sell digital version of it

[urban cloud]

[valid badger]

[still vine]

does dkey hofi have a different build in ER than normal?

[glass nacelle]

Still same as normal i think

[glass nacelle]

She has hp loss

[still vine]

so does she still completely shit on ER like she used to

[nova osprey]

Did someone beat hofis old record with dkey hofi on er yet

[naive briar]

Kallen top confirmed? thanks

[glass nacelle]

Her ring lasts 12 or 15s sth in er

[earnest forge]

i need some help

[valid badger]

[twin dune]

We all do, afterall we play hi3

[earnest forge]

what affixes does ai chan want… i noticed i never bothered

sp?

[twin dune]

Sp regen near enemies

[earnest forge]

thanks

[twin dune]

That s universal for suports... And dea anchora

But not for sushang. Sushang wants attack

[earnest forge]

id assume so but just wanted to ask. Any other sp affix work?

[slim lion]

The fuck

[twin dune]

No idea. I only bothered with attack affixes on HoO

[glass nacelle]

sp/s or sp cost

Sp cost just refund sp

[earnest forge]

yea

[valid badger]

That's what happens in ch 5

[earnest forge]

okay i eep; i forgor sirin got good affixes for tomorrow

[glass nacelle]

I don't think 500000 copies will be sold out.

[twin ether]

they really think Honkai players will grind all of that for it to be sold out

[still vine]

I could buy book but I also don't really care and could instead buy the dkey box and upgrade ticket sooner

[twin ether]

not gonna lie, what do you guys think vita eats on a daily basis?

I think she eats Kraft Mac and cheese like me

[somber egret]

Your Vita funds are smol, should have /120000

[twin ether]

each time I’ve had 12k crystals, I’ve always had 4/4 characters

specifically for part 2, which is why my luck for vita is maximum!

[valid badger]

Give me ur book

[still vine]

sure that'll be 5k crystals

[somber egret]

Books sold after 1hr

[glass nacelle]

top 500k kek

[somber egret]

Ded

[opal flint]

Thelemid

[plain veldt]

so we can get artbook the first week??

[thick prawn]

[glass nacelle]

4 days

[plain veldt]

am I tripping

[mossy escarp]

[glass nacelle]

[rain isle]

How many does glblul get? Like 25k?

And they ain't gonna be sold out

[terse tinsel]

25k for SEA/NA/EU

[rain isle]

[terse tinsel]

Sea sold out fastest > NA > EU

[rain isle]

Not surprised

EU slacc as always

[glass nacelle]

we don't have to clear abyss 3 times on last year's anniversary

[short knoll]

NA and EU got 12.5k each

[thick prawn]

[terse tinsel]

[short knoll]

im buying 2

seem like cn book will sold out, im more worry about EU

[terse tinsel]

give me 1

[short knoll]

🤑

[glacial python]

How does artbook work anyways, if my region are sea but also have acc on EU, that wouldt get shiped?

[thick prawn]

[short knoll]

if your country is listed for shipping

EU does support SEA country but not every country

SEA server is only for SEA however

[glacial python]

Ohh how to check it? Or it will be annojnced latter

[short knoll]

later

[valid badger]

[thick prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144393837725356122.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[plucky cradle]

shit wifi shit house shit life

I hate it here

[bitter stone]

I'm shit

[somber egret]

[plucky cradle]

playing a game never been so frustrating

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

seaonly glblul

[short knoll]

EU should have leftover this time

[rain isle]

Pretty sure EU had leftover every time

As long as I can still play the game I'm fine

[short knoll]

nah, they sold out at the end

[thick prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/906174290364334080.gif

[rain isle]

Wait for real?

[plucky cradle]

it's been 5 minutes

[glass nacelle]

wifi in 2024

[rain isle]

[mossy escarp]

Tf even my 4g is better

[rain isle]

Oof

[glass nacelle]

done

[craggy sentinel]

not done

[glass nacelle]

u done

[craggy sentinel]

[mossy escarp]

Only 50k ded server

[craggy sentinel]

mid server confirmed

[craggy sentinel]

oh wait so artbook immediately obtainable on mondey

i thought it was wed

[glass nacelle]

ded game

sea got 5k copies trust

eu na 2k5

\

[mossy escarp]

Only for whales trust

[glass nacelle]

top up 100$ to get artbook

[mossy escarp]

If no 250k top up then unable to get book

[glass nacelle]

i guess next cycle is trio boss

[vast isle]

Artbook for fossil players only please

No 2100+ days then unable to get the book

[quiet fjord]

the pain of demoted from A3

even with 500k copies, it'll be gone in 1 day

[mossy escarp]

Well its only 560 tokens t500k

Too many slack rn

[sharp quartz]

Wait

Is it possible to get both artbook and ticket?

[short knoll]

yes, you can get more than half the event shop

[vestal bronze]

[valid badger]

[still vine]

i'm just gonna buy dkey box, upgrade ticket and then just the rest on materials I guess

[valid badger]

[rustic sinew]

https://m.weibo.cn/status/5080677848450641?jumpfrom=weibocom

[naive briar]

#honkai-fan-art exists

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[rustic sinew]

Two lambdas

[naive briar]

that is a Den
so that is a Su face

[mossy escarp]

Amg hfi alive

[gleaming imp]

Herrscher Trio on top

[still vine]

[plucky cradle]

trio in 2024

[orchid dome]

PE dkey incoming too trust

[glass nacelle]

+100 crys for vita owners kek

[gleaming imp]

[short knoll]

why vita owner

[muted mauve]

when was lantern banner again?
I wanna use my fes cards

[glass nacelle]

bcs everyone pull her

sena -> thel -> lantern

[muted mauve]

oh this bug happened to me once

[muted mauve]

thx

[muted mauve]

there are already more books claim than available in any other individual server

[rain isle]

Ye that's what I said a couple hours ago

[muted mauve]

Not claiming it myself for obvious reasons but

cool to see the 70k

and the book description is cool.

anyway grabbed the DK box and the stigma ticket

[naive briar]

grabs you
okay looks like my acc is locked

[glass nacelle]

ded sv

[frozen bear]

Does herscher trio become relevant again because of new hofi gear or is just a if you have them here's a little bonus besides for vita teammate

[frail cave]

New gearset definitely boosted P1 trio damej, but is more relevant for Vita team

[frozen bear]

Hm

[gleaming imp]

Omg my investment into 65 senadina weapon paid off and my senadina retained RL

[glass nacelle]

no htr gear ded

[craggy sentinel]

mid

[glass nacelle]

kek

[craggy sentinel]

what the

[gleaming imp]

[glass nacelle]

[mossy escarp]

Vita bad amg

[craggy sentinel]

mid confirmed

[dry delta]

wait mida is mid? Always has been 🔫

[gleaming imp]

What happened?

[dry delta]

mida

(Vita)

[gleaming imp]

Underleveled stigmata or weapon?

[dry delta]

Its vita what more of a reason do u need

[glass nacelle]

sp issue

need s2

[dry delta]

(or better skill :>)

[raven olive]

wth putting massive spending event before sparkle is cruel

can somebody bring me up to speed on what the new hofi divine key is

[thick prawn]

[raven olive]

[willow pumice]

For hofi dps, for hoo support, for vita support (at least until more roo valks), for +20 atk

[raven olive]

is hofi gonna be meta again from this?

[willow pumice]

eh usual stuff

she gets bosses in 7.8

then once or twice a patch

[muted mauve]

no news

[glass nacelle]

and ded soon

sp issue

can;t use 2nd kiana ult

[short knoll]

sp issue in 2024

[glass nacelle]

they want us get s2 hfi kek

[mossy escarp]

Avg p1 valk: sp issues

[short knoll]

i heard that her old gear give more sp right?

[glass nacelle]

yes

s2 and ss1 have sp regen iirc

[ivory slate]

Her Ult is the app icon I must pull

[mossy escarp]

Im 2/4 old hfi stigs and wep kek

[valid badger]

Time to give HoFI new stigs some of these

[glass nacelle]

and lost dmg kek

[still vine]

how many rolls do you need to do to get 1000 stardust shards or whatever

I might get the 23x2 attack from the shop for vita

[valid badger]

Why only 23x2? Get 23x6

[glass nacelle]

u can get 2 23x2 in next patch

from weap box and divine key box

[still vine]

except I need the dkey itself

[plucky cradle]

[nova osprey]

Imma use wp box for cora wp

[glass nacelle]

ye need 3 stack htr at start of battle to enough sp

[mossy escarp]

🐳

[plucky cradle]

imejin no s2 hotr

[glass nacelle]

htr in 2024

[plucky cradle]

trio in 2024

[mossy escarp]

Hi3 in 2024

[glass nacelle]

dedgame is confirmed

[mossy escarp]

8.0 eos trust

[tepid jetty]

250k remaining copies will be going to us

[glass nacelle]

cope

[somber egret]

Bronya in 2024 need 3S||tack|| to be useful

[tepid jetty]

Nuh uh

[glass nacelle]

nah

[short knoll]

should down to 300k before the first week end

[glass nacelle]

kek

[mossy escarp]

100k real players
400k half afk
Rest ded

[short knoll]

300k alt

i could get like 4 books

[lean magnet]

Only 100k active players left in CN

[supple furnace]

Hsr save the game trust

[rain isle]

I don't see much interest from HSR peeps

[supple furnace]

[abstract night]

If they added like kiana (to hsr) or hua then i think it would be a lot better

[rain isle]

Nah

Most peeps don't know about da game anyway

[abstract night]

Yeah hsr idk what tf that is

[rain isle]

At least on glblul side, can't speak for asian peeps

[rain isle]

I'm referring to hi3

[abstract night]

Hi3 is so popular

[rain isle]

[abstract night]

We have 346,000 people in the discord server compared to hsr's 231,000

One would never see that outcome

[rain isle]

Wait actually?

I think you forgot a million for HSR

[naive briar]

HSR is more popular as a game

[abstract night]

||1,231,000 for hsr and 1,836,000 for genshin||

[meager thorn]

due to its release window yeah

more people willing to get into HSR than HI3 considering HI3 is way older and has a lot more content while HSR is much newer and easier to get into because it has less content

[rain isle]

Peeps see oldge and dip these days

Plus no EN voice. As if most peeps don't watch stuff in JP anyway

[meager thorn]

pretty much

[rain isle]

Like not to rant but that complaint is silly xd

[short knoll]

nah, i feel like they are killing it with this collab

[abstract night]

Ewww the non natural voice wtf gross

[meager thorn]

thats not how that works

[short knoll]

sparkle is causing chaos in both community

[meager thorn]

english VAs typically arent as good because voice acting isnt anywhere near as big in the west as it is in asia

plus the language itself needs a lot of adjustments for it to sound well which just arent done often

not having the game in a language you speak is more than a valid complaint if im being fr

[supple furnace]

I expect it will be like genshin tbh relevant during collab patch then ded next patch

[meager thorn]

tho it is silly to not give it a shot at all because you cant listen to it in the same language when you can just read it

[versed garden]

I like the EN dub

[naive briar]

wanting voice over in your language is very understandable
quite confusing to me how people keep demanding EN voice while dooming the voice artists

[tepid jetty]

there's already hua expy in hsr anyways

[short knoll]

but they already made hsr stuffs canon in hi3, expect them will popup more jn the future

[meager thorn]

this, pretty much

[tepid jetty]

but not released yet

[naive briar]

Hua expy
what is expy

[meager thorn]

variant* and we cant know for sure until shes revealed (tho 99% chance yeah its fu hua)

[short knoll]

also maybe more hi3 character will come to hsr, even more chaos

[tepid jetty]

I always think expy = variant

[rain isle]

Should I start complaining that literally next to nothing in terms of games is voiced in Greek then? Doesn't sound very sensible to me

[meager thorn]

leave it to the english speaking community to give a random word a completely different meaning

[meager thorn]

expy never meant variant/alt

[tepid jetty]

mb

[meager thorn]

you can, its more than valid

because theres complaining

and theres being a child

[naive briar]

HI3 Fu Hua is a Holmes expy btw

[meager thorn]

they arent the same

[rain isle]

I don't want to cause Greek dubs are always scuffed af

So no thanks

[naive briar]

yeah you can. remember to pay for what you ask for

[tepid jetty]

nah, they'd just be more popular there compared to here. Nothing else

[meager thorn]

the first time I seen expy used well in terms of context, tho this wrong

shes not holmes expy shes watson

get it right! cancelled

[rain isle]

[naive briar]

HI3 Fu Hua is the model of both Holmes and Watson
read better

[meager thorn]

blame it on the voice acting industry and ask for good VAs

[meager thorn]

holmes is an actual character is the thing she cant be his expy if hes already in the game 🐒

[naive briar]

read better

[versed garden]

not an actual character

[meager thorn]

well shit ig I cant read

my bad

[rain isle]

[meager thorn]

?

[naive briar]

cause Doyle was a terrible detective wannabe
he wrote his book with himself and Fu Hua arranged as Holmes and Watson
when 99% of the work is by Fu Hua

[meager thorn]

😭 real holmes got forgotten

[versed garden]

Fu Hua holmes relegated to fanfic

[short knoll]

you dont see those hate cmt from hsr then, many player dont want other game to interfere with their game
they dont want to play other game to know something about their game

[tepid jetty]

holmes need to be waifunized to not be forgotten

[meager thorn]

bro will never be a waifu

[naive briar]

why Starfall had photo evidence of me I can't even remember that myself

[versed garden]

I try to read

[rain isle]

Exposure moment

[meager thorn]

see its funny because, this isnt wrong but its also wrong because holmes is an actual character for like 1 arc

[naive briar]

Holmes is the fanfic version of Fu Hua wdym turning em waifu

[tepid jetty]

maybe just this server's culture being brought with them, or just weird people who want the game to be isolated from the other games.

[rain isle]

What does cmt stand for?

[versed garden]

comment

[naive briar]

can you show a pic?
There should only be Doyle speaking

[rain isle]

Ah xd, thank u

[meager thorn]

i'd have to look up the chapter again but he appears in ||1.5 hua arc||

[tepid jetty]

it's also ironic that some of genshin / hsr characters literally came from hi3, they just put different personality in it. Then there's this weird people who just want their hoyogame to be isolated from its sistergames

[naive briar]

that was Doyle...

[meager thorn]

istg the name itself was under holmes

[naive briar]

poor Doyle

[meager thorn]

hes referred to as holmes then idk

[short knoll]

some hi3 player also displeased with how they handle hsr stuffs in hi3

[naive briar]

Doyle: You see, combining the name Holmes and Watson gives your name Fu Hua

[meager thorn]

i dont remember Doyle name being brought up once so I figured the whole Doyle is holmes thing was just an event thing

cuz iirc the part where thats mentioned is in the murder mystery event no?

or am I forgetting something

[naive briar]

yeah Fu Hua arc considered dead thanks

[meager thorn]

was it during taixuan dream?

I dont remember

I should probably reread it

[tepid jetty]

any p1 arc except trio is deadge

[rain isle]

Ye I've seen a few complaints as well

Personally I just say let's wait and let them cook

We barely know much about the connections rn

Well, afaik at least.

[tepid jetty]

imejin they still give fuhua a spot on p2 story, considering how much relevant she was on pretty much all arc in p1

[naive briar]

did we forget Fu Hua calls Doyle "Holmes" ._.

[meager thorn]

I cant READ that

[rain isle]

Apho Hua and Senti trust

[naive briar]

and Doyle calls Fu Hua "Watson"

[naive briar]

I play on CN, please read from your game ._.

[crystal rampart]

I wonder would we see Firefly in Honkai Impact 3rd?

[meager thorn]

I could yes, if I knew which segment it was

[naive briar]

Chapter 21 Quest 11

[meager thorn]

gotchu lemme look it up

[naive briar]

Fu Hua misinfo

[meager thorn]

I remember that bit

[crystal rampart]

https://youtu.be/bm_0FHhcnXI?si=LC2N44RIujsuojEz

[naive briar]

hi?

[crystal rampart]

Hello it's a Firefly MMD

[naive briar]

and it doesn't belong here

[somber egret]

Why sent here ?

[naive briar]

to troll you

[crystal rampart]

If they are doing colab with HSR I wonder would we see Firefly in Honkai Impact 3rd later?

[somber egret]

[meager thorn]

smh im just goin off what I remember

where in the main story tho is it mentioned that doyle is holmes? I only remember that from events

like what chapter

you sent the screenshot but I cant read it and dont remember which part its from

[naive briar]

AI chan help I can't count

[crystal rampart]

I think Sparkle is coming in Honkai Impact 3rd based on Trailer right?

[meager thorn]

yeah

[short knoll]

||she is already in hi3 main story||

[naive briar]

hoyolab said it is open info https://x.com/chibi0108/status/1837513353683784024

ちび🐤Piyo (@chibi0108) on X

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[crystal rampart]

I wonder would we see Firefly later?

[meager thorn]

probably not

[crystal rampart]

Honkai Impact 3rd usually has good kit for character right? While HSR is sort of turn based combat.

[tepid jetty]

in cptverse

[meager thorn]

too late, thats over

[meager thorn]

HI3 is action while HSR is turn based, yes

[crystal rampart]

I wonder what sort of action kit would these colab characters have?

Is there any info about Sparkle Action Kit?

[supple furnace]

No

[tepid jetty]

hsr kit

[crystal rampart]

When can we expect to see it?

[supple furnace]

[naive briar]

Sparkle is not confirmed to be playable in HI3 yet
anyone who confirms you at this point are doing stuff that the cabbage doesn't like

[tepid jetty]

after 7.8 drops, or around that patch

[thick prawn]

Someday

[crystal rampart]

There was behind the scenes video right in Honkai Impact 3rd?

[naive briar]

yes

[crystal rampart]

So it makes me think maybe Sparkle is coming to Honkai Impact.

[muted mauve]

uh? the behind the scenes video she is coming to hi3 in 7.9

[thick prawn]

[naive briar]

kit confirmation?

[tepid jetty]

like hsien said, ||she's already in the story|| so far

just in story though

[thick prawn]

Only say "debut"

[ivory slate]

The main story confirm sparkle in the scene with Rita

[muted mauve]

that's a different thing.

[crystal rampart]

I think if they are doing colab with HSR before it ends I wonder would we see Firefly in Honkai Impact too?

[meager thorn]

ahhh im pretty sure the 7.9 behind the scenes thing is about her being playable.

I mean it would only make sense

she already in the story otherwise

[naive briar]

7.9 behind the scenes??

[tepid jetty]

I mean, promare collab was pretty similar

[meager thorn]

the collab video

[tepid jetty]

and no one went playable

[meager thorn]

it ends with a message saying sparkle joins HI3 in 7.9

[meager thorn]

yeah that

[thick prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144393837725356122.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[somber egret]

[naive briar]

I only saw Sparkle arrives not sure about playable
I guess it confirms in English but not CN?

[meager thorn]

is that NOT in the CN version?

thats odd

it was in the JP version

[naive briar]

it says Sparkle arrives

[tepid jetty]

cn would riot if glb get stuffs firsthand kekw

[short knoll]

since ||she is already in 7.8 story|| it make sense that announcement is for playable sparkle, but we will see

[crystal rampart]

If one thing I would like to be changed about colab's is these characters and their weapons should rerun in future patches too.

[meager thorn]

yeah this is literally why its the only thing that makes sense

[meager thorn]

they will

probably

[naive briar]

JP says Sparkle arrives too

[short knoll]

she already arrived

[meager thorn]

weird, tho saying 7.9 would still kinda imply playable tho no?

[naive briar]

tell that to Keqing

[meager thorn]

maybe its a translation thing? happens often iirc

[somber egret]

[crystal rampart]

Also did you see sparkle trailer?

[meager thorn]

that is WILD

😭

[tepid jetty]

keqing went playable though

[meager thorn]

im still wondering why they never just dropped keqing

[tepid jetty]

on event

[meager thorn]

like they didnt need to change anything about her

wasted animations ngl

[somber egret]

Watch same thing happens to Sparkle

[meager thorn]

will laugh

[somber egret]

[tepid jetty]

we'll see

[short knoll]

in any case, it just make sense for people to asume that is playable sparkle, we will see if it's true or not, but it's just logical for people to think like that

[tepid jetty]

I can even make a prediction rn

[naive briar]

it's logical yes

[tepid jetty]

a trust me bro guess with 9999% probability

[abstract night]

Liebig:

[naive briar]

please use the same logic to confirm Keqing

[tepid jetty]

[meager thorn]

I wonder what weapon sparkle would even use if she went playable

[tepid jetty]

sparkle qua to powercreep teri

[abstract night]

Chakram bc it can be anything prob

[tepid jetty]

calling it

[meager thorn]

like what weapon can she use when she just pops a mask 😭

[thick prawn]

Mind reading weapon

[ivory slate]

Ah Ha mask

[abstract night]

Chakram! :D

[meager thorn]

a chakram in the shape of a mask would go HARD

[supple furnace]

We have hammer

[meager thorn]

im ngl

[dense harness]

in a cutscene she used a hammer

[abstract night]

Hammer who

[quasi glen]

Was announcement back then same as this time

[meager thorn]

hammer would just be funny tho

[quasi glen]

It's been so long I forgor already

[supple furnace]

Corabad

[dense harness]

in HSR ofc

[tepid jetty]

another weapon variant

[meager thorn]

please no.

[abstract night]

We still need a javelin user

(Another*)

[tepid jetty]

javelin is ass

[supple furnace]

[meager thorn]

javelin only has one character

[abstract night]

So is trick staff

[meager thorn]

javelin can be cool af

[naive briar]

nope. just player reactions and leeks

[quasi glen]

Ah

[tepid jetty]

javelin is literally lance with abit of a handle bro

[meager thorn]

No

javelin is a spear not a lance big diff!

tho idk why javelin is just a spear and a short spear

well difference in the blade but still

[abstract night]

Lance is just a pointy two handed sword
Javelin is just a lighter lance
Trick staff is just a fancier javelin

[meager thorn]

why two?!

[crystal rampart]

I wonder would weapon look like mask or something and be called drive core or something like that? I mean Honkai makes weapon look like different thing and they play differently. Look at HOS kit.

[meager thorn]

That is the worst comparison

[thick prawn]

White Comet weapon

[abstract night]

I stretched the first one

[meager thorn]

I kinda love it

[muted mauve]

the genshin Collab was announced in a Livestream

[tepid jetty]

trick staff of songque is just redesigned coralie's hammer

[muted mauve]

that happened earlier than usual

[tepid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1285701640799785081/feelscubeman.gif

[abstract night]

Redesigned javelin
Get it right smh

[meager thorn]

CUBEEEE

[naive briar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605901234087657472/1177261529326948402/joyceskip.gif

[crystal rampart]

I think based on Sparkle Trailer on YT a Mask like that one in trailer would look really cool.

[naive briar]

don't give Vita a mask

[crystal rampart]

But I have no idea what her actual kit or weapon would be like?

[meager thorn]

Vita with a mask is odd

like she kinda fits the whole elation shtick but I dont like imagining it for some reason

[craggy sentinel]

best mask

[meager thorn]

I dont want her to just be a "clown" character 😭

[tepid jetty]

no one does either

[naive briar]

Vita looks fine by design but I think it was a bad choice to make her a Masked Fool

[meager thorn]

I hope its just a play by her and she isnt really one

[craggy sentinel]

sparkle: uh ice bio fuck it
her wep will be uh lets see, pistols why not

[supple furnace]

Real i hope it's only temporary

[tepid jetty]

they still trying to recreate an otto-level of villain, but still flop regardless

[meager thorn]

how do you go about with a whole story arc of seeking freedom and true independence just to end up affiliated with another group as a normal member right after

[abstract night]

Quantum Lightning

[naive briar]

it doesn't matter
Vita spent her life running away from Divine
it's not natural development to turn her into a new one

[craggy sentinel]

the disrespect

[opal flint]

So real bro Vita doesn't fit masked fools

[meager thorn]

exactly

[abstract night]

I want sparkle to be lightning but thats the insane copium

[naive briar]

Vita is not a villian the same way

[meager thorn]

the only way it would work is if shes lying about it

[short knoll]

i dont think they are trying to do that with vita

[naive briar]

Vita had always been a friend

[crystal rampart]

Shigure Kira?

[supple furnace]

Uh i don't think they try to make her second otto

[meager thorn]

Vita is an antagonist, not a villain

[opal flint]

Is Vita Neutral but mostly in a good way?

[meager thorn]

no

chaotic neutral

[opal flint]

[short knoll]

she destroyed some bubble universe iirc