Nerf Infusion

[unreal fulcrum]

So, I am the kind of masochistic player who hates things getting too easy to frequently, and frankly, I think infusion is just too good too frequently. My characters HP usually ends up doubled(or more if I was using a particularly fragile character) by the time I fight providence with a single infusion item, it's just too good.
Theres two ways I feel it could be nerfed:

1. Make it like RoR2, where it only goes up to 100 HP.
2. Make it a red item, keeping everything it does rn, but giving an appropriate tier for the item.

[brisk sky]

There’s a setting to turn it off in the rules

Wait no I’m dumb

Do not listen to me

[olive parrot]

Based take

[rose stone]

RoR has many broken things like that, and so does RoRR

[iron meteor]

just don't pick it up bruh

[olive parrot]

Ror has broken things because it’s fucking ror I wouldn’t use it as a benchmark for good balancing

[rose stone]

and it has a cap at 9999 too

[olive parrot]

The value comparison is actually kinda nuts, 1 ror infusion is legit 99 ror2 infusions seems balanced to me yep

And it stacks better too das crazy

[loud badge]

It's so funny to me how strongly they nerfed ror2 infusion by comparison. Leaching seed too, though to a lesser degree.

It's insanely good in ror1/returns, and just nearly worthless most of the time in ror2

[rose stone]

yeah in command runs I always get 2 early

there's many things and items in the game that are just broken or get broken eventually, some characters are just broken to begin with

even the freaking fireworks can get to a point where they get silly

[unreal fulcrum]

Yeah, but infusion gets broken every time

and its a green item

[rose stone]

I would rate red whip higher than infusion

double jump too

jetpack too

[olive parrot]

I hate it here

[rose stone]

even the shield is extremely strong and in a good providence fight has a similar effect to infusion

if you get hit once every while, having twice hp or a shield is the same

[polar pollen]

infusion, while, strong, isn't absurdly broken given the game runs on a different ruleset to ror2

in ror2 there are 3 dimensions in which you can dodge, here your "dodging" devolves to jumping and praying

you need additional effective health to be able to realistically survive

[rose stone]

yeah you can 100% die with 9999 hp if you go too far

also providence is an easy fight compared to RoR2

[coral marsh]

I don’t think it needs to be nerfed there are a lot of broken things, that’s kinda the point. If they did decide it was too strong I think a better change than nerfing it would be just to make it a red item and leave it as is. It’s honestly as strong as many of them if you get it early.

[polar pollen]

also, take into account that infusion as an item drastically loses value the later in the run you get it

if you take it as your first item, yeah its sorta cracked, but if you get it on contact light its like what, wow 50hp

[unreal fulcrum]

Given the amount of enemies you assasinate in the last phase, not really

[polar pollen]

it isnt much better than the bitter root or whatever its called

in the cases you get it super late

[swift folio]

infusion isn't even that amazing, being tanky is not the issue of this game, it's more preventing getting hit; I would be much happier with a hopoo or red whip than infusion

[polar pollen]

Id argue cape is the really good green defensive item

A single cape almost single handedly trivializes the entire providence fight

[swift folio]

a void teddy in ror returns but better

[winter rampart]

This is difficult to argue for or against. Some think infusion is too powerful, others think it should be as is, and both opinions are valid. I would recommend a compromise (2 kills or 5 kills for 1 hp gain), but then no one might be happy. Good luck to the devs.

[stark zealot]

items don't need to be balanced

[unreal fulcrum]

I dont even know how to respond this without being rude

[stark zealot]

obviously to a certain extent items need to be balanced

but I don't think infusion is too overpowered if you aren't looping

I'd honestly rather have prophets cape even getting it stage 1