ror2-discussion

[cedar coral]

I need to get gesture of the drowned and drifter and some artifact

[agile kestrel]

Foolish mistake. That's how they get you

[obtuse tartan]

Trying to flex ror2 hours in the ror2 discord as if most people still active don't have thousands

[flint vortex]

1. WHO
2. WHAt

[haughty crag]

I still need to complete all achievements on this

[obtuse tartan]

Returns can't be that good

[haughty crag]

It fun

[agile kestrel]

You might think "It is only one lunar coin" now but once you have burned through all of your lunar coins and did all the achievements so the only thing left to do is farm enemies for the 0.5% drop rate or wait for another DLC to drop you will regret your actions

You cannot be liberal with the lunar coins

[coral wedge]

ive only had the game since january ok

[obtuse tartan]

How do we tell them

[agile kestrel]

You must use them conservatively and only buy lunar items when strictly necessary

[coral wedge]

i think 280 hrs in 5 months is pretty good

[flint vortex]

aaaand i go into the files and edit my number

[haughty crag]

You can amass a fair chunk of this by doing the secret obelisk route

Exfiling the moon gives you 5 coins iirc
The obelisk route gives 10 coins

[true cobalt]

dude the twisted scavengers are painful to deal with

buuuuuut I got the log for the area because I need it

[agile kestrel]

Foolish mistake

[haughty crag]

They are basically gear checks

[agile kestrel]

Looping is how you get killed

Furthermore it costs more than 10 lunar coins to get into the obelisk

[true cobalt]

so

[haughty crag]

You loop for god runs

[coral wedge]

who is gonna tell bro about program files x86

[agile kestrel]

Foolish mistake

[true cobalt]

and btw I HATE getting all operator abilitys

[agile kestrel]

God runs get you nowhere

[spare saddle]

you better hope your gear is solid and made of metal

[flint vortex]

are you just like anti playing the game???

[haughty crag]

Anyways I am in debt right now

I don't care who they send I am not paying my debt

[true cobalt]

its FUNNY to kill and obliterate hundreds of enemys

[obtuse tartan]

Neutronium weights

[flint vortex]

no youre good, there are NO loan sharks after you.
there might be loan whales after you tho

[true cobalt]

7 twisted scavengers pulled up for your debt what do you do

[haughty crag]

Mithrix loans

[obtuse tartan]

I solo

My scaling is outerversal so I solo all twisted scavs clearly

[true cobalt]

7 tho

[obtuse tartan]

The better question is 10 septillion coughing babies vs 7 twisted scavs

Thats a fair match up i would say

[spare saddle]

why not 10 septillion coughing scavs vs 7 twisted babies?

[true cobalt]

twisted scavs win unless babys have that green that lets out saws when damage is taken

[vivid ember]

[obtuse tartan]

But 10 septillion coughing babies is a lot

[haughty crag]

Who do I play

[true cobalt]

[true cobalt]

my boy railgunner

he the goat

[flint vortex]

girl btw

[true cobalt]

srry she the goat

[onyx grove]

im still thinking about what plush to get

acrid or gup

[flint vortex]

[true cobalt]

gup plush

[true cobalt]

I love nukes

[wet marsh]

ive yet to unlock the diablo strike

grrr...

[true cobalt]

brooooooo

[wet marsh]

im trying and stuff

but its hard to get

[true cobalt]

lock IN

[sage python]

@round sandal happy birthday !!!!!!!!!!!

[wet marsh]

oh wow birthday??

[haughty crag]

@round sandal birthday!!!

[true cobalt]

happy birthday to you

[wet marsh]

happy birthday meower :33

[true cobalt]

happy birthday to you

[wet marsh]

meow meow

[true cobalt]

happy birthday happy birthday happy birthday to youuuuuuu

[haughty crag]

When you go to Risk of Rain 2 but it's Chinese

[spare saddle]

happy birthday @round sandal may you get many awesome and cool presents

[bronze notch]

happy birthday

[summer bolt]

KILL MEOWER

[spare saddle]

mods remove ryans spine

[flint vortex]

ubercharge meower

[proven wedge]

Risk Of Rain 2

[cedar coral]

gorag's opus or executive card on operator

i dont have a coupler

[spare saddle]

[cedar coral]

please just tell me lol

[haughty crag]

neat

2 red items back2back

[spare saddle]

id go with gorags

makes drones deadlier for a bit

[eager kestrel]

buh

[cedar coral]

guh

[vivid ember]

that pyro is a bloody pie

[cedar coral]

I should've kept that executive card

2 green multishops

maybe ill just go with my gut next time

[vivid ember]

can we get a god of being stupid in ror2 called almkohol

[livid idol]

No because that's just spinel tonic

[round sandal]

Thank youuuuuu

[round sandal]

Thank!

[round sandal]

Thank you :3

[coral wedge]

guys why do you think my ror2 isnt loading

[onyx grove]

maybe you just suck

[coral wedge]

[onyx grove]

(i can run ror2 with over 400 mods)

[coral wedge]

it also may be overlapping mods not liking each other

oh nvm its working

it js took a while

[cedar coral]

I can run ror2 with no mods on console

beat that

I have a choice between

deus ex (with void lens), crowdfunder (with bleed) and gorags opus (with 10+ drones)

im using operator which do i take to swing

[coral wedge]

dues ex

[cedar coral]

does it do anything to swing though?

[coral wedge]

to swing?

[cedar coral]

solus wing

[coral wedge]

ah

no it does not
but its funny

[cedar coral]

fair lol

[onyx grove]

me too twin

[haughty crag]

rip

no bungus...

[cedar coral]

win? 😭

[onyx grove]

can you beat the game as solus wing

[cedar coral]

what the hell does "problem: tokyo" mean

[cedar coral]

hell no it cant move

[onyx grove]

best buddy?

[vivid ember]

so sad

[cedar coral]

probably not

it cant jump too high so if you get a scu youre done

[vivid ember]

i want a a tamer survivor that is practically the same as operator but with gups and lemurians

[cedar coral]

nahh thats a bit of an overused concept

[vivid ember]

but i want a pet gup

i know gups hunt and are apparently carnivores but uh

[onyx grove]

thats if you get scu

if you dont, can you?

[cedar coral]

hmm

[vivid ember]

depends on what final boss you do

lunar chimera is extremely troubling that is

[cedar coral]

swing is impossible

voidling is impossible

[onyx grove]

with aimbot is i guess possible

[cedar coral]

false son and mithrix are doable

[cedar coral]

eh

[worldly haven]

when does the spawn director stop working

[cedar coral]

on the 5th loop

[worldly haven]

that's uh

a lot faster than i thought

[cedar coral]

no im kidding idk

[fossil mica]

like at 150 mins in i think lol

[worldly haven]

i've seen people be fine at 180

[fossil mica]

depends what difficulty and mods i guess

[cedar coral]

my xbox can barely handle one loop

but again if youre even considering doing a second loop are you really having fun

[worldly haven]

i mean, if i go to the moon, i certainly aren't

[fossil mica]

depends what you wanna do I guess

[cedar coral]

going to the moon isnt fun anymore?

[worldly haven]

after beating the game i kinda grew to be scared of mithrix so now i just loop

[fossil mica]

mythrix takes my items 💔

[cedar coral]

beating mithrix is far more satisfying for me

[onyx grove]

im scared of mithrix too dw

you’re not alone

[worldly haven]

ngl, providence is much scarier than mithrix

[fossil mica]

theres a mod that updates mythrix's attacks and makes him more op and thats pretty scary

[onyx grove]

evil

[worldly haven]

i hope some day we find out providence's real name

[pearl summit]

I think it's cooler to know him as Providence

[vivid ember]

blind engineer

[fossil mica]

or brother

[worldly haven]

i mean, of course i'll still call him providence, but i wanna know his real name

[haughty crag]

hes an alien

its weird mithrix got a name

[worldly haven]

weird take but aight

[onyx grove]

providence is just mysterious like that

[proven wedge]

Have you guys ever used tri tip dagger?

[worldly haven]

often

[proven wedge]

Damn, thats awesome

[fossil mica]

yeah but mine always get corrupted 😭

[proven wedge]

You should try reinstalling.

[worldly haven]

you don't have to use needletick if you don't want to

[proven wedge]

Why do they call it needletick when you needle in the cold food of tick hot eat the food?

[fossil mica]

needlestick is interesting, I personally don't mind it like if I see it I usually pick it up

[frosty haven]

Xirhtim the king of everything

[worldly haven]

if it's ever revealed to be xirthim i'm uninstalling

[frosty haven]

I would cry

What if his name was lowk just the hero

[arctic turtle]

Thoughts on operator? Specifically his alt skills. Me personally they're awful

[frosty haven]

I like his alt secondary

don’t have the rest of his alt stuff

[arctic turtle]

The robot smash? In comparison to the spam of the base secondary?

[fossil mica]

operator is pretty good if you can get a hundred drones going

[frosty haven]

Yeah but have you ever used ignition tank with it

I call that 20 stacks of super murder fire

[sage python]

i love them

all of his alts are pretty unique

which is a good thing, gives variety

[fossil mica]

just dont pick transport drone

[frosty haven]

true

[frosty haven]

No I love transport drone

[sage python]

i pick transport drone, but i use alt secondary so it doesnt matter much what i pick

[fossil mica]

gunner and healer drones are better unless you want a lot of mobility

[arctic turtle]

What does he even do

[worldly haven]

operator is the closest i can get to playing as a gunner drone

[frosty haven]

Transport drone is my dearest companion

[frosty haven]

Drop things

[fossil mica]

i guess you can move chests and stuff?

with the admin overdrive that is

[sage python]

i love the logbook, and its the only one with a unique model

[arctic turtle]

Couldn't you move every chest to one area and have captain hack them and get everything for free?

[fossil mica]

pretty much lol

[frosty haven]

We’re no meta slaves we just like them because they’re cool🔥🔥

[arctic turtle]

I like the alt special. It's fun, not sure if its good though

[sage python]

transport drones are passively good

aoe % damage

the overide is just a flat value tho

[worldly haven]

i would love it if you could control the drones you repair

[lofty olive]

meta like the meta nav

[sage python]

wdym?

[lofty olive]

im sorry ill leave

[frosty haven]

Okay i’m hopping on vr should i KILL everything

[lofty olive]

👍

[frosty haven]

No don’t do you wanna hop on the chat

[lofty olive]

can’t I don’t have my VR rn
it’s at my dads

[frosty haven]

🥹

[sage python]

amp core firewall is fun

[frosty haven]

what is firewall

[fossil mica]

you can use it against bosses to take agro funnily enough lol

[lofty olive]

please tell me im not the only one who thought of the problematic media firewall

[sage python]

firewall ejection core allows for you to make really good use of nanobugged

[worldly haven]

assigning drone formations

[frosty haven]

From pressure??

[lofty olive]

👍 👍 👍

[sage python]

operator alt util

i just think of firewalls :P

[fossil mica]

pc firewall fr

[frosty haven]

yeah no don’t got it i’m hopping on my vr now

[sage python]

only loudouts i would say are clear underdogs is override chirp and ascent protocol amp core

[lofty olive]

bye Kyle

[sage python]

but those arent bad, just worse

other than those, i switch loadouts quite a lot

[haughty crag]

Riskpot!!!

[fossil mica]

I use ascent protocol, gives more mobility which is nice

[slow dome]

let us all play ror2 in vr

[lofty olive]

one time I met a loader in a vrchat world but he kept saying slurs so I left

[spare saddle]

that seems fitting

[lofty olive]

I had an operator avatar on and he was like “oh did you like ror aswell?” And i thought he was cool then i heard him start saying slurs

[fossil mica]

I don't even know if a vr headset would even run ror2 on like stage 20 for example lol

[lofty olive]

risk of rain 2 VR but everytime I kill an enemy 100 more spawn

[fossil mica]

rip vr headset lol

[slow dome]

lets make a tierlist on which survivor is most racist

[spare saddle]

ror2 vr but if i die in game i die irl

[potent musk]

i am

[lofty olive]

rro2 but if I die I become a character in the game

[fossil mica]

sword art online for real

[spare saddle]

you are?

[potent musk]

👍_ _

[onyx grove]

i mean just die in multiplayer and respawn as a gunner drone

[spare saddle]

understandable
have a nice day

[worldly haven]

i mean yea, but i wanna play as a gunner drone in singleplayer

[onyx grove]

aerolt mod

[fossil mica]

play as a healer drone solo

[round sandal]

What if I meowed.

[worldly haven]

meow

[fossil mica]

woof

[hardy wedge]

Does anyone have anything to say about the essay I sent yesterday? If anyone has any notes I would genuinely really appreciate it as I wanna try improve my writing

[round sandal]

Meowwwww

[hardy wedge]

Thank you Meower, very insightful

[fossil mica]

why are we meowing lmao

[round sandal]

I didn’t see your essay and I’m not sure if I’d be very helpful

[hardy wedge]

They’re the meower

[hardy wedge]

It’s in #ror-art-and-content

It’s the .TXT file

[onyx grove]

its tuff

[hardy wedge]

Thank you SPEX from the level Computational Exchange from Risk Of Rain 2: Alloyed Collective

[round sandal]

Yoyre both so tuff

[wraith flower]

yoooo i saw acrid in a video and i js wanna ask how do i get him?

[fossil mica]

beautiful

[round sandal]

Complete void fields

[wraith flower]

is that dlc

[round sandal]

Nuh uh

[wraith flower]

oh nice

[wraith flower]

yo how do u build mercenary?

[haughty crag]

rip

i got stuck by the overlord

[sonic tangle]

rating: terrorists

[haughty crag]

😭

[round sandal]

Saves you

[fossil mica]

how do you build merc like lego? or what to build on him lol

[wraith flower]

what to build on him 😭

[haughty crag]

hey maybe i shouldnt run transecende

at least on merc

[fossil mica]

you kinda wanna just go focus crystal, frost relic, alien head, harvester scythe is pretty good too so just mainly close ranged damage items, soldiers syringe is also a mega must because you'll be able to proc your exposed a lot more

[round sandal]

Mmmmmmmm, trans

[fossil mica]

merc definately isnt a looping character though, he might have the best mobility in the game but his damage falls off fast after the first loop

[wraith flower]

oh thats good to know tysm

[main hornet]

explode for ?? teamless damage

[fossil mica]

If you have eviscerate and a bunch of alien heads and lysete cells, you can basically become invinvible by spamming it lol

[terse ferry]

Default loadout likes proc and alt loadout likes burst

But proc is good either way

[haughty crag]

merc is pretty hard to play mind you

his dps is subpar at best for a melee character

[main hornet]

easy to learn hard to master

[haughty crag]

like if you compare merc to like

loader

[terse ferry]

It isn't really subpar it just requires a lot of button pressing

[haughty crag]

false son

[round sandal]

Nnnnnnn sleepy

[haughty crag]

merc is just meh

otherwise hes really fun

[fossil mica]

its very hard to control him late game if you have tons of mobility items

[main hornet]

anything is subpar compared to false son 😭

[terse ferry]

Dps wise Merc is actually better loader is just the big burstler

[haughty crag]

im trying to get the dlc3 skin for merc

[main hornet]

the sole reason for stone flux

[fossil mica]

true

i forget about that item ☠️

[haughty crag]

i need to get the dlc3 skin for bandit, commando, captain, mult, mercenary, loader, arti and engineer

[wraith flower]

do things scale with the number of plyrs

[main hornet]

basically all of them

[sage python]

not really

[wraith flower]

like the hp, chests, wtv

[haughty crag]

yes

[terse ferry]

Enemy scaling and chest amount yeah

[sage python]

merc is extremely safe and everyone scales way faster than enemies when looping

[wraith flower]

how do they scale

[haughty crag]

merc is safe

but the moment you do one fuck up it can kills your run

[main hornet]

he's also got crazy mobility from the start which allows him to clear stages fast and stay ahead of the curve

[terse ferry]

Enemies scale in HP damage and spawn rate
Chest amount scales at roughlyyyy +50% amount per player

[wraith flower]

ty

[sage python]

ig there is a slight lack of range, but thats to be expected

[fossil mica]

the dps drop feels significantly more compared to others mega late into a game for me

[sage python]

not that he cant zip around

[terse ferry]

Merc's range is weird because it's like loader lite
He zips into close range for a millisecond then goes back to mid range

Though unlike loader he has i-frames while at close range

And he also actually likes using his m1 more than default loader

[main hornet]

you don't really use merc's m1 other than early game

[haughty crag]

you need it to proc off exposed if youre running full stock

[main hornet]

why would anyone ever not run focused assault

[round sandal]

Because maybe I don’t wanna

[terse ferry]

Dash cancelling and i-frames

[main hornet]

focused assault also gives you iframes

[round sandal]

I like my answer more

[terse ferry]

Hold on I need to get up and get on pc to find a dash cancelling clip I have

[fossil mica]

I usually go binding assault tbh

[round sandal]

So that means you can give me the files too right

For my birthday @terse ferry

[terse ferry]

yummy

[main hornet]

focused assault does so much more damage and it exposes enemies

[sage python]

she better.

chat, the meower is here !!!

[round sandal]

If not I will be a little sad

[haughty crag]

full alt mercenary just feels jank to play as

[round sandal]

Yeah she is

[main hornet]

i can do the same thing with focused assault

[round sandal]

For a tiny bit, I’m sleepy

[main hornet]

rising thunder is awesome

i love rising thunder

[terse ferry]

you quite literally can't
for some reason hopoo coded focused differently so it can't m2 cancel???

[main hornet]

rising thunder, focused assault and eviscerate is my merc loadout

[fossil mica]

you can basically fly with this at a point lol

[round sandal]

Wow Goobie… I understand.

[main hornet]

no i meant kill the boss at that speed

i might even be able to do it faster

[haughty crag]

im running full stock merc

[terse ferry]

ok but dash cancelling is more fun so like

[haughty crag]

you can trimp with stock m2

[terse ferry]

shrug

[unique hawk]

Because it's not what they find fun

[fossil mica]

mobility is fun

[unique hawk]

Depends on the person

[main hornet]

but like you have 2 dashes with your utility and eviscerate anyways

[unique hawk]

I prefer flamethrower over ion surge

And ion is good mobility

[terse ferry]

i like default m2 because of how it allows me to insta-proc expose from my m1 without dashing

[main hornet]

you mean it's op because nothing can reach you

[fossil mica]

at the end of the day, its whatever makes you have the most fun

[terse ferry]

ion is freaky mobility tbf
all-in on vertical but doesn't really make you any speedier

[unique hawk]

Fair

[sage python]

i find it boring

[main hornet]

i like doing one big strike with focused assault more than spamming dash

[unique hawk]

My point is the best way to play is the one where you're having fun and not necessarily what's optimal

[terse ferry]

focused vs blinding is kind of like charged gauntlet vs thunder gauntlet in my mind
focused/charged is the option for the get-in get-out playstyle that CAN stay in close range but is kinda janky to do so with
blinding/thunder is the option for just going full hyper-aggro

[eager kestrel]

its like ketchup made out of tomato 1 vs ketchup made out of tomato 2

[unique hawk]

We can argue damage, numbers, and all that with no problem

[fossil mica]

tomato tomato

[unique hawk]

But when it comes down "why does person choose X", it doesn't matter

[fossil mica]

bro is speaking facts

[main hornet]

focused assault allows you to reduce your cooldowns more tho

especially against multiple enemies

[terse ferry]

focused resets cooldowns by itself, m2 cancelling resets cooldowns via m1 and m2 spam

either way you're getting comical cdr

[main hornet]

merc is just a really good survivor overall

except that the skins don't change the vfx colors by default

[unique hawk]

I like him but can't play him. Destroys my hands

[fossil mica]

every survivor is good besides rex, we dont talk about rex

[main hornet]

rex is good

[unique hawk]

Rex is fine, just janky

[main hornet]

at his job

[round sandal]

Protects your hands

[main hornet]

which is infinite healing

[terse ferry]

fight false son or a large swarm with rex and watch his special + range be the single thing that carries you through everything

[fossil mica]

rex is arguably the hardest survivor to play in eclipse 8 thats why

[main hornet]

people play eclipse?

[eager kestrel]

naw

[unique hawk]

True but that shouldn't have inpact on how good they are

[terse ferry]

rex is bad because e8 is like saying swords are bad weapons in a modern war tbf
swords were never made for modern warfare and nobody in the past could've expected things like tanks to exist

[fossil mica]

eclipse 8 mythrix

[terse ferry]

swords are at the end of the day a functional weapon that were good for the purpose they were made for

[fossil mica]

facts

[eager kestrel]

rex is bad because e8 is like ketchup made put of tomato 3

[unique hawk]

Sleep time

[terse ferry]

and similarly rex is a functional survivor that's good for what he was made for

[agile kestrel]

Is it just me or is monsoon real gosh dang challengin

[terse ferry]

goobnight rats!

[main hornet]

depends

[eager kestrel]

you'll get better

[sage python]

i like zipping around so i use the one that lets me do that more

[agile kestrel]

Im tryin to beat my first monsoon run rn, im going as Caption

[sage python]

thats pretty much it

both skills are good

m2 cancel also funn

[main hornet]

do you have diablo strike unlocked and which beacons are you using

[agile kestrel]

No diabllo strike and im using stun beacon and healing beacon

[fossil mica]

use false son in monsoon and hope you get charged perforator and its pretty easy

[main hornet]

do you have hacking beacon?

[agile kestrel]

stun beacon to stun the monsters and healing beacon to heal myself

[terse ferry]

false son makes any run easy you don't need cherf of all items

[agile kestrel]

If it isnt unlocked by defualt no

[main hornet]

ok then yeah one stun one heal is pretty good

[agile kestrel]

i only have his default kit

[main hornet]

try to get a lot of drones

they'll just remove every enemy projectile

[agile kestrel]

maybe what killed my last run was that i had to fight xi construct

[main hornet]

did it go into space for no reason

[agile kestrel]

How would a healing or a missile drone remove projectiles

[main hornet]

because it does that

[agile kestrel]

It shot a giant yellow laser

[main hornet]

microbots

[agile kestrel]

how do i get more

[main hornet]

microbots?

[agile kestrel]

7es

[main hornet]

you don't, it's captain's starting item that only he has and it applies to you and your drones

tiny drone that orbits you and shoots down projectiles

[twin rover]

anyone wants to play together rn?

[terse ferry]

i could probably hop on in a few minutes i just need to go to the store for some soda

[fossil mica]

sure

[twin rover]

alr

[fossil mica]

vanilla?

[main hornet]

the lag would kill me

[twin rover]

yea

what dlcs do yall have

[fossil mica]

all of them

[twin rover]

you host the lobby then

i dont have alloyed collective so yk

[fossil mica]

sounds good, add me on steam

[agile kestrel]

i couldve swrn i saw gameplay video where someoen had like 300 bicrobots...

[worldly haven]

5

[earnest canyon]

how to void FEIN

[agile kestrel]

WAIT

[main hornet]

probably modded

[agile kestrel]

would running artifact of sacrifice+artifact of swarms make monsoon easier?

[twin rover]

1681311406 friend code

[fossil mica]

steam is loading

[worldly haven]

i hate my steam friend code

it looks fake

[main hornet]

it makes the game way easier yeah

[fossil mica]

sent

[earnest canyon]

"would dropping a nuke on Petrichor V make the game easier" 💔

[twin rover]

alr so we wait for goobessa now

[main hornet]

it's called diablo strike

[worldly haven]

no, no it wouldn't, the monsters would just mutate

[main hornet]

mithrix would just hit it like a baseball and send it back

[worldly haven]

you do NOT want radioactive lemurians

[earnest canyon]

Malachite MonkaS

[fossil mica]

alr cool

[twin rover]

arent radioactive monsters just elites

[fossil mica]

how do we reckon chef likes his meat cooked?

[worldly haven]

i headcanon chef as a vegetarian

[earnest canyon]

why does false son have realistic toes

just asking questions!

[fossil mica]

i mean he is a robot

[twin rover]

why do you know this

[worldly haven]

i really wanna answer this, but i'm afraid of the mods

[fossil mica]

he has 4 toes

[worldly haven]

biofuel

from just plants

[fossil mica]

wall-e

[earnest canyon]

i have the game open son

false son 😭😭😭

[worldly haven]

i was thinking more like the hippie van from cars

[west trench]

hey guys, does pillar of blood take 10% of max or current hp per sec?

[twin rover]

why did you look at his feet then

[worldly haven]

because they're satisfying

[twin rover]

imagine that 'son' reaction image but its false son

[fossil mica]

ohhh

[earnest canyon]

so curiosity is illegal now

[terse ferry]

max

[west trench]

interesting

[terse ferry]

kid named max

[twin rover]

ur back?

[terse ferry]

yep
opening up ror2

[earnest canyon]

im crine

[twin rover]

alr 1681311406 add me on steam

[fossil mica]

idk who to play lol'

[sage python]

this is how you get evolved lemurians

[fair geyser]

I mean the giant statue in the path of the Colossus has detailed feet

[agile kestrel]

ok

[fair geyser]

You should play false son

Totally not biased

[twin rover]

providence's feet are diffrent

[fossil mica]

maybe idk

[fair geyser]

Well if false son was "made in the image of providence" who's to say they didn't look at his feet for the statue

[fossil mica]

lmao

anything but rex, I don't like him 😭

[worldly haven]

womp womp

respect the wheel

[fossil mica]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

[twin rover]

i swear im not rigging ts

its commando

[worldly haven]

roll for me

[fossil mica]

commando gaming

[worldly haven]

might as well throw now

[twin rover]

fym throw captain is so peak

[terse ferry]

tfym expired youtube

[worldly haven]

milk

[worldly haven]

i suck at crowd control

[slow dome]

let us all agree to rework captains taser into an electric bomb that shocks enemies

[main hornet]

gasoline:

[worldly haven]

i stand by this idea

[fallow sedge]

Its over

[worldly haven]

i said crowd control, not genocide

[main hornet]

gasoline:

[arctic seal]

wanna play with me qwp

[earnest canyon]

should you ever not hit the shrine of shaping lol

[true cobalt]

same I hater rex

[sage python]

it could be bigger sure, but id keep it a taser

[true cobalt]

captain is goated

[worldly haven]

when i started playing, i thought gasoline was the worst item in the game, now i take it every run

[slow dome]

make the taser bounce onto enemies

[lost wigeon]

I think they should add Rose lalonde to Risk of rain 2 #Thoughts?

[sage python]

itd be cool if it did a stun aoe on ground bounce maybe

[slow dome]

make commando roll give him atk speed bonus for like 1 second or something

[agile kestrel]

maybe

[lost wigeon]

Yes

[fallow sedge]

On what platform

[arctic seal]

ps5 or pc

[fallow sedge]

Sorry i only play on stadia

[round sandal]

You’re such an ass hole😭 😭

[blissful torrent]

hello lovely people how are you all doing today?

[round sandal]

Sleepy

How is?

[blissful torrent]

also sleepy! i just woke up 😎

[sage python]

im very happy today , yesterday i sorted lots of personal stuff out :)

how are you doing?

oh and thanks for asking :D

[blissful torrent]

oh heck yeah! that's awesome

[blissful torrent]

pretty tired but otherwise good ty ^^

[sage python]

sweet !!

glad to hear

[agile kestrel]

acrid more like stupid because stupid is stuipd

[onyx grove]

true

[frosty haven]

Can acrid read?

Nah he dumb as hell

[agile kestrel]

i thoguht acrid was a women

i saw a youtube shorts comment that said acrid is a woman

[frosty haven]

acrid is gender fluid that’s what tumblr told me

[cedar coral]

I think i love stavros and chris' music equally as much

[cedar coral]

acrid doesnt have a gender

[frosty haven]

Both is good.

[frosty haven]

Tumblr is always right

[cedar coral]

what is he even talking about

[sage python]

of the juice variety

acrid log 🧡

[frosty haven]

Acrid juice🧃

[sage python]

juice-gem alert

[cedar coral]

im going into alloy hunter and the solus bosses for the first time guys

any tips? also should I take crowdfunder with bleed, deus ex with void lens or gorags opus (im using operator)

[sage python]

when the the screen turns red in the wing bossfight, move towards the red spheres

[cedar coral]

are those the heating things

[sage python]

its really xounter intuitive cause the colour coding is bad

[sage python]

the cooling orbs are red on the outside and blue on the inside

[terse ferry]

more of the filtering because the spheres are actually white but get hit by the red color filter

[cedar coral]

I was told I should go for the cooling orbs first because it damages solus wing and keeps you cool

[sage python]

oh fr?

[cedar coral]

whats the difference if I go for the heating orbs

[vast igloo]

im balls

[frosty haven]

it just makes it so you take no damage

[sage python]

taking the heaters out prevents anything from taking heat damage nearby

[frosty haven]

I always destroy the cooling ones

[cedar coral]

oh so theyre like a last resort

[cedar coral]

what do the cooling orbs do

[sage python]

its better to destroy the cooling ones yeah, they still work for you even if you do

[frosty haven]

Yeah basically

[frosty haven]

They stop you from taking shit loads of fire damage

[sage python]

keep you cool no matter what when inside radius, if you damage them they cause solus wing to take damage but you not to

[frosty haven]

It (the overheating phase) also inflicts the grandparent’s nuke de buff i dunno what that does thou

[cedar coral]

do you have to destroy more than one of them or nah

[frosty haven]

All 3 to make solus wing burn

[cedar coral]

that nuke always fucking kills me

what about the heating ones do you have to destroy all 3 to turn off the heating entirely

[sage python]

the cooling ones are nearer the middle of the arena than heaters, you neednt worry about heaters

[frosty haven]

Yeah just shoot all the heating ones

Not sure how many there are but they are deadly as hell

[sage python]

you can ping them before the phase when they pop up btw

[cedar coral]

and now im confused

let me just search up a guide

[sage python]

yeah they are damn confusing

solus wing is a really cool boss that has some pretty bad feedback and telegraph issues

but once you get past that, you are golden

heating

cooling

[fallow sedge]

💀 💀 💀 💀 LMAO

Thank you

[hollow slate]

Why is it so hard to defeat the False Son with Bandit :( i just want the skin

[blazing nexus]

Wing also takes damage if you destroy a heater mind you

[sage python]

oh btw qwp while you are here, ror1 modding on linux is easy as pie but it requires using a text editor to add mods to a list of enabled ones instead of a user interface

[blazing nexus]

It doesn't quite fry it like destroying all the coolers but it allows you to use the entire arena as apposed to just the lower levels

[frosty haven]

I’m not even gonna lie and say I never noticed it did that

[sage python]

i can send you the files of the modloader in about a week's time

[robust aurora]

what is the mod tht allow you to change character mid game?

[arctic seal]

metharmophosis

it is an artifact

but if theres a mod for that idk the name[

[robust aurora]

i remember it was a mod where u can like type it in chat and itll show you a list of character u can pick

just came back to the game

nvm

it was dropin aldy had it

[dawn wasp]

how it feels to pick up long standing solitude during eclipse run

[arctic seal]

the glorpo is here gang

[strange summit]

the run is DEAD

[dawn wasp]

wdym this shit easy as fuck

[strange summit]

not enough items

more items

one trillion eclispe light

[agile kestrel]

whot is the worst survivor in risk of brian 2

answer: it is acrid

those who know 💀💀💀

[fluid hill]

acrid cant be that bad right?

right...?

[wanton lichen]

They didn't say in Risk of Rain, tbf

[fluid hill]

risk of brian 2

i just read it correctly

[silver nexus]

Hand-d

[golden linden]

worst character on risk of brian is definitely jeff

[wet marsh]

my name jeff

the one with seals on it

aka none of them they all suck

[golden linden]

captain mastery

[wet marsh]

eyes on the road

[golden linden]

navy seal

[wet marsh]

that white is sooo good

[golden linden]

ok!

[wet marsh]

also green merc

hes so fucking green.....

[golden linden]

green merc with wolfoqol is so juicy tho

green everything

[primal nova]

I lovw seeing engineer turrets go flying

Bc of all the movement speed

Spur on engi turrets is hilarious

[rare turret]

is this game easy to play for beginners

[uneven bloom]

on drizzle i'd say so

[fossil mica]

what happened @twin rover lol

[uneven bloom]

if you're introducing it to someone have them play on drizzle to get used to it first and then get them to move to rainstorm

only do monsoon if they feel confident

[agile kestrel]

i have a theory

a risk of rain 2 theory

its a theory about risk of rain 2

[fossil mica]

miner will be next survivor

[sage python]

hop in #theorycrafting

[agile kestrel]

who tf is miner

[fossil mica]

survivor in 1

[agile kestrel]

nah

[fossil mica]

why

[agile kestrel]

theres better ones to bring to ror2

like providence and greater wisp

[sage python]

[fossil mica]

theyve been adding ror1 survivors to every dlc so far so it wouldnt be too far fetched

[sage python]

ac didnt

it just had returns folk

[fossil mica]

prob a return then

[sage python]

thats probably just semantics tho

[terse ferry]

that would be artificer , pilot (pretty much ), and drifter

oh and robomando i guess

[sage python]

please no robomando

that would be bringing stuff back for the sake of it

if you want a joke charscter make a new one, its a throwaway character

[terse ferry]

it would also be lying!

[fossil mica]

personally i think miner would be the best char to bring back

[fallow sedge]

I dont think new here means original

[sage python]

me too but also i dont think we need any

[sage python]

they would still be new

[fallow sedge]

Every dlc had characters be described as new to the game i think

[terse ferry]

the poll of doom and despair....

[sage python]

enforcer is visually cool and pretty distinct in ror2 cast, but kit has been somewhat absorbed by captain and mul-t

miner is kinda similar to mercenary, but miner has always been similar to mercenary

[terse ferry]

i forget was it the dev diary or the original steam page for AC where they referred to drifter as returning

[sage python]

hes not that similar and they could definitely give him a pretty derivative kit

[fossil mica]

it would be pretty cool for miner to have an ability where he could burrow underground and use that to his advantage in ror2

[sage python]

same with enforcer but he is a little less generic and the ror1 kit is a little more represented

[terse ferry]

minler....

[sage python]

i think this would be the coolest idea too yesh

[fossil mica]

true

[sage python]

i had a similar idea, albeit way less thought out than goob's independently too

(your describe and visualise it well :) )

it would be really cool they should do that if we get miner

[formal spoke]

Hopefully we do

[primal nova]

Ummmm

[old python]

New to ror2.

[primal nova]

So this is broken

[celest niche]

AND IT'S SWEEEEET
SWEEEEET
SWEET VICTORY

[sage python]

what is

[primal nova]

Yk how w loader when u attack things u get barrier right

[sage python]

ayy nice :D

[sage python]

uh huh 🙂‍↕️

[primal nova]

U can js attack oil for the scorchers and get an infinite amount of barrier theoretically

😭😭😭

[sage python]

that works?

[primal nova]

Apparently yes

[terse ferry]

fun fact you can also grab them with drifter util iirc

[celest niche]

The all-nighter was worth it.

[terse ferry]

oh my fucking god i forgot i added this to my concept doc

[sage python]

why christmas

[sonic tangle]

the seekher

[sage python]

what lmao

[terse ferry]

reference

[agile kestrel]

guys, hear me out

[sonic tangle]

any of yall cant stomach eating something the rest of your family can eat just fine

i just wretched after drinking some soup

[terse ferry]

spicy food

[sonic tangle]

everyone else in my family drinks it fine

so its not the soups fault

[terse ferry]

and a lot of things in general tbh i was very picky when i was younger

[sonic tangle]

im still picky

[terse ferry]

i still am picky but mostly just because i dont want to waste food or money

[sage python]

i dont like chewy meat much

[sonic tangle]

i try not to be but sometimes it just happens

[sage python]

but tbf i eat almost anything 😭

[sonic tangle]

like i borderline spit it out

for example ginger slices

i just cant eat it

[sage python]

i once took a ginger shot and it floored me

[terse ferry]

like girl i am not spending your or my money on something that i 50/50 will not be able to eat properly

[sonic tangle]

everyone else can but im wretching the moment it enters my mouth

which is just kinda confusing to me

[sage python]

they should add miner: the goobessa cut to ror2

[true cobalt]

[sage python]

if it dont have the dig i dont want it

[sage python]

i wonder if ror2 miner would have scorching

i do kinda hope it would be focused on fire and not cooldown if we did

[terse ferry]

lmao

[sage python]

cause merc is already mr. cd reduction melee

[agile kestrel]

What if void fiend is unlocked by beating stage 50 of the sumbalucrum because the focus (THE CRAB looking thing) is actually a lesser mature vesion of void fiend, and it is tricking you into doing void things to mature it, and the void fiend is what its species fully matures into, since void fiend has void in the name and the sumbalucrum is in the void as well, so theyre both void things.. now you might be thinking what about the planeterium and i say tat it is differet because what if the planetarium exists outside of time like crumbling farum azula and so its a new stage of maturity for void firnds species and void friend is the middle, and he never reaches the void enemy guy boss guy in planeterium i forget his name level? Think of it like catterpillar cocoon butterfly, the focus is the caterpillar,void fiend is the cocoon, and void guy enemy guy boss guy in planetarium i forget his name is the butterfly? What do you guys think of my theory

[terse ferry]

i think my take on miner scorching was a skill enhancement thing

[sonic tangle]

how does it work in rorr again

[sage python]

scorching miner is kinda funny cause in some ways its thematically cool

[terse ferry]

dealing damage with m1 builds heat
when heat is at max become scorching
while scorching you expend heat instead of triggering cooldowns

[sage python]

but in others its just really puzzling

why can he set himself on fire lol

hes like a christmas pudding

[sonic tangle]

mm alright

[sage python]

at the same time holy hell, hes on fire thats so cool

[fossil mica]

the dig is too much

[terse ferry]

evil fucking opal:

[sonic tangle]

i think that would work just plopped into ror2

[primal nova]

Oof the clip ended too earlier

[terse ferry]

it would but it'd also create weird merc overlap since miner also has i-frame dashes

we have the i-frame dash guy that reduces cooldowns by attacking enemies and the i-frame dash guy that removes cooldowns by attacking enemies

[agile kestrel]

I would of had said W gameplay but youre playing the worst survivor ever so L gamer

[sage python]

miner rorr

[primal nova]

Eh loader is easy to play ngl

[primal nova]

I'm using arti of morph

[sage python]

miner could be cool if he had a slow primary

[frozen pendant]

nightmare concept

movespeed reduction outside of combat is a run killer

[sage python]

-# (blacksmith ss1)

[sonic tangle]

i meannn

[terse ferry]

it's an increase out of danger

-35% is the base effect, and it's reversed while outside danger

[sonic tangle]

if done right both characters would be different enough to play different

[sage python]

ror1 merc was just worse miner

its so funny

[sage python]

miner is really generic they could do lots with him, think it would be a missed opportunity to cram him into the same niche

[primal nova]

Omg I got double prestige mountain shrines

[fossil mica]

mountain artifact run when

[primal nova]

Thats what im doing

Thats basically prestige

[agile kestrel]

Easy to play but lame to play as

[fossil mica]

hows it going?

[primal nova]

Good

[celest niche]

Speaking of Docs, I just made a few touch-ups to my idea sheet for a hypothetical Risk of Rain TV show.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fF9WtkwVto8vAtphCYe4BlfhH4lHofOV0yh-8_ycMK4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[agile kestrel]

I only forced myself to suffer through the torture of playing loader to get the achievements for her and that's it

[primal nova]

Im doing morph tho, makes it easier to get everyone's skin for the solus heart so far I only have artificer

The artis im using rn are command, morph, enigma, prestige, and swarms

[terse ferry]

that's a lot of artificers

[sonic tangle]

they could be different while still having the same cdr gimmick i think

[primal nova]

Oh and cant forget sacrifice

[sage python]

both had a pseudo double jump, a dash and lots of i frames

just that miner did damage and merc didnt

[primal nova]

Grabbing so many feathers so I can skip the barrier in conduit canyon and leave w like 10 - 11 sentry keys

[remote birch]

Is this from a mod or coming in hallowed concepts

[terse ferry]

concept

MY concept not hallowed concepts 😭

oops

[fossil mica]

when she hallows the concept

[sage python]

merc didnt have the combo, miner had a more traditional dash and no heat meter

doubly funny because merc was made afterwards

[agile kestrel]

Yeah of course thyere modding the game

[sage python]

they made the same guy again but worse

and gave him an achievement for beating the game on hard 😭

[remote birch]

Ah I see

Very good concept btw I love it when lunars have actual downsides

[terse ferry]

yeah lunars are a really interesting item tier they just really really really fucked up with most of them 😭

[sonic tangle]

the post hopoo lunars are kinda buns ngl

longstanding solitude is stupidly op

neutronium weight doesnt even function properly

[sage python]

the lunars are kinda buns ngl

[terse ferry]

i keep wanting to shorten longstanding but then get reminded lolitude is not a good name

[sage python]

awesome lootpool with

[remote birch]

Lolitude is a very very good name

[mellow shard]

I thought was terrible

[sonic tangle]

gotta be the best lunar

[sage python]

just call it solitude or longstanding

[mellow shard]

Did they rework it

[terse ferry]

are you sure you want this sentence on your record avocado

[sage python]

its pretty good

i think the downside is interesting

[remote birch]

What does defiant gouge even do that is productive

Why would someone ever use it?

[terse ferry]

it's pretty much free rejuv rack preloop

[terse ferry]

free money

[remote birch]

It has some really interesting interactions with void fiend

[primal nova]

Bro my utl doesnt do shit rn

[sage python]

its basically just free money that is kind of risky on shrines of blood

[primal nova]

It charges in one second and goes nowhere 😭😭😭

[remote birch]

But like just wait 10 seconds and you'll have things to blow up in no time

[sage python]

its not offensive but it barely does anything

[remote birch]

..it has just occurred to me why that might not be a good name

[primal nova]

Talking bout loader

[sage python]

there's also focused convergence which is kinda iffy

[terse ferry]

yeah but sometimes the director is evil and hates you

[agile kestrel]

Could you clarify what you meant by "Loader"?

[sage python]

but im not complaining

lol

[primal nova]

Watch

[remote birch]

You gotta hold it down mate

[mellow shard]

I take focused every run I see it

[primal nova]

I am

[sage python]

focused convergence and defiant gouge are both items with little downside that kinda just increase the speed of the pacing of the game

[agile kestrel]

Ah, I see what you mean now! You're referring to the watch brand, Loader. I couldn't find anything on a watch brand named Loader, maybe you're getting confused and actually mean another more popular watch brand, such as Rolex or Gucci.

[sage python]

really strange items

[graceful gorge]

its crazy to me how FUN hallowed concepts looks. I feel like we might be getting a release date in diary 2 considering how much seems to be polished and done so far

What did I walk into why is chatGPT here

[zenith edge]

Risk of rain

[sage python]

longstanding solitude is cool but it shouldve be an artifact and imo buying stuff shouldve cost levels

[graceful gorge]

wait holy gold idea

[terse ferry]

TRUTH NUKE!!!

[agile kestrel]

I'm typed that by hand that is not chatgpt im offended

[sage python]

maybe reduce the conversionrate though if this is the case, since you would float around a lower level count more often

[graceful gorge]

humanGPT is that better

[primal nova]

Brother 😭😭😭

[sage python]

uh oh i need to read numbers

[terse ferry]

oh that reminds me i need to figure out a way for my longstanding rework to actually stack

[primal nova]

See look it charges in a single second

[graceful gorge]

is it true that theres a mod to play release seekers? i swear there was one before

[sage python]

oh wait nvm i dont !!!

yipee

[primal nova]

And goes absolutely nowhere

[agile kestrel]

yes

[sage python]

oh so level up requirements are basically static? @terse ferry

[formal spoke]

Who is with that we need to buff growth nectar

[remote birch]

One thing I am forever grateful for is that eulogy zero is an item and not an artifact

Stupid blue tome has gotta be the most fun item in the game

[graceful gorge]

Eulogy zero is good but not when I have ..Interesting multiplayer teammates

[sage python]

that tracks and that rocks

[mild cloak]

Hallowed Concepts isn't Coming...

[terse ferry]

e0 is an item i'd probably pick up more if lunars weren't the way they are

[agile kestrel]

wait a second

[primal nova]

Haven't gotten sots yet

[graceful gorge]

what did you do hallowed concepts. where did it go

[formal spoke]

Oh

[remote birch]

Waiter!! Waiter!!! More shaped glass please!!!

[sage python]

e0 if it was an equip:

[primal nova]

I have sotv and ac

[formal spoke]

I have all dlcs

[primal nova]

Lucky

[sonic tangle]

eulogy is basically just lunar benthic

[formal spoke]

Sots is the worst sotv is the best

[sage python]

remote caffeinator peaks so hard

i wish they added it to rorr

[formal spoke]

thought ac and sotv are really close

[remote birch]

0 degrees Kelvin take

[agile kestrel]

theoretically hypothetically in a purely theoretical hypothetical that is not real and would never happen and is only theoretically hypothetical, what is theoretically stopping a hypothetical modmaker from theoretically making a hypothetical mod that theoretically added in the dlc content or a theoretical remaking of it that hypothetically was somewhat close as its own theoretical mod theoretically speaking? asking theoretically because im theoretically wondering hypothetically if any hypothetical modmaker has ever theoretically tried that, theoretically speaking

[formal spoke]

I mean it’s just common sense that sots is the worst

[sage python]

i wonder how well radar scanner would work in returns

[primal nova]

Welp ima do barrier skip in conduit canyon

[sage python]

you could give it the arrows

or heck, the multiplayer offscreen ping display

[mellow shard]

Returns is already so much faster paced so I'd say maybe lower cool down but it only selects a few items instead of all of them?

[remote birch]

I feel like anyone who would want that would just pirate the dlc

[mellow shard]

Like give it a limited range or something

[formal spoke]

It highlights things in a medium radius

[fossil mica]

do you guys think that when you hear boss music, does the boss hear player music?

[mellow shard]

I can't lie I've never seen a mod that looks polished enough to be passable as vanilla/ dlc content so I doubt it

[blissful torrent]

the boss actually just hears your character talking to them

[sage python]

more i think about it, the less i think radar scanner would be good

[remote birch]

Based on the logbook entry of tribal mask, yes they are shit scared of you

[sage python]

you already kinda need to traverse the stage to loot

[agile kestrel]

sonic mod looks official

[primal nova]

Yes this is a thing

[coarse marsh]

Fucking fucks.

[primal nova]

I found this out yesterday

[coarse marsh]

I don't believe you.

[mellow shard]

Ok lmao but when the mods that are supposed to be vanilla like (enforcer) do not look vanilla like the character is fun but it does not look polished or official

[sage python]

ss1 adds this as an item and its not very interesting

i wonder if any rorr equips would be cool in ror2

[agile kestrel]

takes a sip of my soda sippingly

[fossil mica]

what mod is that? looks pretty cool tbh

[primal nova]

@coarse marsh

[formal spoke]

The land mines one maybe

Idk how it would work but

[terse ferry]

risk of ruina

[primal nova]

Proof conduit canyon barrier skip is a thing

[sage python]

gigantic amythest maybe

[sage python]

perhaps?

[terse ferry]

dynamite plunger would be funny but probably impractical

[sage python]

defo one of the better ones

[sage python]

i mean is pretty fun

dynamite is explodey, therefore even more fun

[formal spoke]

How would it work tho?

Like in a short radius put land mines around u?

[sage python]

i guess so

most equips are already adapted tbf

[coarse marsh]

That video makes me want to poop honestly

[formal spoke]

What other rorr equips are there?

[celest niche]

Chat, I'm about to fight Mithrix. Do I escape and let Drifter have a happy ending, or do I pet the frog to go 4-for-4 on major bosses?

[primal nova]

Lmao?

[formal spoke]

Escape unless you have already beaten the game with them

Btw what difficulty

[fossil mica]

gonna try this rn

[celest niche]

Cringe Normal, but my build is cracked. (Cleanup's damage is insane.)

[sage python]

its kinda hard to say cause some are adaptions and some is just plain overlap

[formal spoke]

Some items in rorr could also be adapted into 2

[sage python]

for example, despite not having thqwibs, molotov is really similar

[formal spoke]

And idk why frost relic is uncommon

[sage python]

jade elephant and shield gen

shattered mirror and ocular hud

[formal spoke]

Idk I haven’t played much returns so yeah

[eager kestrel]

@coarse marsh

[celest niche]

Captain's Brooch, (summon a chest at 2x price) Mace Replica, (swing a mace that's guaranteed to proc on-hit effects) Gold-Plated Bomb, (drop half your cash for a bomb that deals that much damage) Explorer's Key, (unlock all nearby chests) Carrara Marble, (set a travel gate that you can warp to whenever) Drone Repair Kit... (Repair and empower all drones while spawning a unique one)

[formal spoke]

GOLD PLATED BOMB MY GOAT

but unfortunately we have have an “adaptation” of it

[sage python]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Items

theres a few boring ones that dont have any real counterpart in ror2

like pillaged gold

[dim onyx]

? I'd say goobo is more similar since it's also a whole clone

[terse ferry]

goob!

[sage python]

id say goobo is like crudely drawn buddy

the umbra is basically just attacks hit twice

and ocular hud is attacks deal twice damage

[terse ferry]

oh right the shadow clone in rorr is a fraud

[formal spoke]

Taser mortar boxing and dead mans

[formal spoke]

Hi goobessa

[dim onyx]

Ocular is more a crit item than actual DOUBLE hit

[terse ferry]

hellon!

[dim onyx]

Apologies for being semantic about it but I don't think they're that similar in how they function

[sage python]

the difference isnt that large though tbf

[terse ferry]

it is proc wise no?

[sage python]

i mean yeah

i dont think procs inherit crits though in ror1 so not as much as you would expect for damage procs at least

i could be speaking out my arse i kinda forgot lol

[primal nova]

I did barrier skip w a

[sonic tangle]

is there any point to skipping the conduit canyon barrier

[primal nova]

First I had my couplers stolen from me

[terse ferry]

removes the barrier

[formal spoke]

Uhhhhh idk

[terse ferry]

so you save up on three keys

[primal nova]

More sentry keys

[sonic tangle]

you can get infinite keys by just leaving them on the ground anyway

[sage python]

it does mean that shattered mirror works better with crit items tho

[primal nova]

Nah ima leave stage w 10

[formal spoke]

U could fight Solus heart ig

[terse ferry]

yeah but it's a nice timesave

[coarse merlin]

An item that gives double damage for 8 seconds would be a lot better than ocular hud, just by virtue of it being a unique damage type
Because then you could stack it with crits

[mild cloak]

solus heart watching me hit it once and instantly pop E.G.O afterwards

[sage python]

but its mostly just a balancing difference than anything imo

procs that do 2x damage vs 2x proc count

[sonic tangle]

heres my opinion

i think only a limited number of sentry keys should appear

but they despawn if not picked up after a while