ror2-discussion

[primal nova]

I clipped the healing statute under neath part of the map so its js sticking barely out

[sharp skiff]

Imagine how uncomfortable the survivors must feel at the end of a run, with hundreds of items on their body

[golden tide]

I was pretty confident, that i could've kill Mithrix, but soups trivialized the fight

2 red scraps in glasses, 5 green scraps in spare parts and other 15 in scopes

[sharp skiff]

Cautious slug is low-key a top 10 thing in risk of rain 2

[uneven galleon]

why can't i get roles ? ;;

[main hornet]

it's good early when you hit 2 shrines of the mountain on the first stage

[sharp skiff]

I don't know

[upper wing]

#roles ?

does it not work?

[uneven galleon]

thank u

[sharp skiff]

I mean also graphically, it's cute

[uneven galleon]

nah it doesn't

[upper wing]

oh weird

[primal nova]

As soon as I start running its ggs

[terse ferry]

roles channel wasn't working for me either yesterday so we might want to contact mods about it?

need a bigger sample size tho

[upper wing]

i think the bot is just broken

[terse ferry]

probably

[upper wing]

should be fixed soon enough

[terse ferry]

the fixer

[uneven galleon]

can't get my operator role........

[fresh idol]

yes

[primal nova]

I can almost cross half the map w drifters util

[main hornet]

no

[main hornet]

you're playing commando

why would you do collapse instead of bleed

[fresh idol]

bc it deals more dmg faster

[main hornet]

no?

[fresh idol]

yes

[uneven galleon]

cause collapse taste better than bleed

[terse ferry]

better for smaller enemies or for if you can't keep damage uptime

or for lower item stacks but 57 had bleed printer so

[fresh idol]

collapse deals big dmg faster

[upper wing]

collapse is a choice you make

[fresh idol]

and it's also better at Mithrix

[amber roost]

bleed also just happens to have more synergy options

[fresh idol]

?

[main hornet]

collapse is better on slow, heavy hitting survivors and bleed is better on fast hitting survivors

[terse ferry]

kind of funny to me how many reasonably sidegrade-ish voids there are but how many of them are considered straight upgrades/downgrades anyway

[primal nova]

I think drifter wants to turn into an airplane 😅😭

[fresh idol]

collapse deals big damage faster

[autumn pawn]

Dose the dlc come out today?

[sharp skiff]

Bleed is fun but it's scary on mithrix

[sonic tangle]

collapse is nice for a few reasons

[fresh idol]

bleed outdamages collapse only after 9 seconds of focused fire

[onyx grove]

yes it does

[terse ferry]

and 9 seconds is a lot of time in ror2!

[main hornet]

have you heard of captain

[fresh idol]

without considering the fact that you always have one more needletick compared to tritip

[vital depot]

April 20, 2018

[fresh idol]

i only play Commando

[terse ferry]

bleed collapse convo is boring i'm gonna go play r&s

[main hornet]

this explains a lot actually

[sonic tangle]

also you can get bleed + collapse with noxious thorn and especially shatterspleen

[autumn pawn]

Yeah I thought so because I saw something about it yesterday and it said today

[fresh idol]

what does this mean

[onyx grove]

(im joking btw it doesn’t)

[main hornet]

true but i'd only go for collapse if i already had bleed from shattespleen if i was playing commando

[main hornet]

devlog today

[vital depot]

The first dev diary for the DLC is today there’s still no release date

[autumn pawn]

Oh dang ok 👍

[vital depot]

This place isn’t nearly half as active enough for it to be day of release

[onyx grove]

hallowed concepts coming after gta 6

[fresh idol]

collapse just did more damage than bleed right here by killing this magma worm in 6 seconds

[terse ferry]

bleed vs collapse convo is weird because it's not like the difference is big enough to matter in a real run anyway
you're still getting pretty damn good damage from stacking either of them

[amber roost]

given that Alloyed Collective was fine on release, at least we won't be getting another SOTS

[main hornet]

they're both really good it's just that one is better depending on how frequent and hard you hit enemies

[onyx grove]

imagine hallowed concepts release being like sots release

[upper wing]

i had a dream where they basically announced red commando as the first hc survivor

[main hornet]

spicy commando

[fresh idol]

no lmao collapse doesn't deal total damage

[terse ferry]

nemmando but not

[sonic tangle]

i take needletick because theres always the chance i get either of the two other bleed options that make tri tips less good

[sharp skiff]

That would be genuinely funny

[terse ferry]

corelapse

[main hornet]

but also copious amounts of bleed is funny

[turbid escarp]

been so long since i used supercharge i forgot the visceral satisfaction of blowing a teleporter boss's head smoov off

[sonic tangle]

collapse is funny too

[terse ferry]

chat do i try to go for beating the mice or the witch

[upper wing]

id probably give up on the game, or at least give up on trusting the developers

[onyx grove]

they should do that just as a joke

[main hornet]

the real winner between needletick and tri-tip is ifrit's distinction

[amber oak]

I hope not

[sharp skiff]

Commando but with bleed already in the M1

[terse ferry]

nemmando

[amber roost]

the second survivor they announce is Blue Commando

[sage python]

this would be awesome actually

[main hornet]

we have that one already

[cloud topaz]

release a broken ass version on day 1 and then release the normal dlc the next day like nothing happened

[turbid escarp]

collapse display mod changed how i feel about collapse forever it should be base game so new players stop thinking its mid

[amber roost]

not this shade of blue, it's brand new

[fresh idol]

tritip brainwash on proc characters are still a thing, surprising

[cloud topaz]

imagine the game had april fools patches like overwatch

[sharp skiff]

What about pink commando

[turbid escarp]

im legally obligated to go all in, right?

[amber roost]

i think that'll be next dlc after

[main hornet]

just get one

[sharp skiff]

Yeah

[turbid escarp]

i can only get one ✌️😭

[main hornet]

yeah exactly

[fresh idol]

never had to use this in order to know
people just showed me the math

[sage python]

yea get all the harvester's scythes !!!!

[terse ferry]

fox question, rats or witch

[sage python]

rats

[turbid escarp]

oh i knew it was goated but getting to know exactly when i can stop shooting something is ough

[terse ferry]

fuck ok

let's go gambling!!

[turbid escarp]

TWO LUNAR PODS AND A FUCKING CLEANSING POOL ON THE SAME STAGE THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!!!!!

[sage python]

i think itd be weird if collapse specifically showed damage

[main hornet]

IS IT APHELIAN SANCTUARY???

[primal nova]

I have 4 probes 😭😭😭

[turbid escarp]

yup

[terse ferry]

delicate watch mentioned

[primal nova]

FROM 1 EMPATHY CORE

[main hornet]

i mean networked suffering does it

[sharp skiff]

2 irradiant pearls

[main hornet]

reasons why aphelian sanctuary is the best stage: higher chance of cleansing pools

[amber roost]

if only I could Sale Star my lunar pods and run up the cleansing pool value

[main hornet]

eulogy zero:

[sage python]

collapse is purple stickybomb

[turbid escarp]

wrong!

[onyx grove]

needletick is evil

its like a tick with a needle

[fresh idol]

needletick was the way Hopoo thought of dealing with base dmg bloat for proc characters

[sonic tangle]

i highly doubt it

[turbid escarp]

smile

do i even take it actually or do i just hope i get atg because of supercharge proc coeff

[fresh idol]

void items can't suffer bloat if you don't add anything to them

[errant marsh]

If only ticks were as useful irl as needletick

[errant marsh]

No you definitely take plimp

[turbid escarp]

very very useful bugs (for biological warfare)

[main hornet]

on railgunner yeah take it

[onyx grove]

hello plimp fried rice

[primal nova]

Yall im at 44 stacks or mocha 😛

[turbid escarp]

i am greedy i am going to search the stage for atg first

[primal nova]

And 9 spurs

[main hornet]

just take the plimp trust

[primal nova]

I think I need more movement speed 😈

[main hornet]

you'll find icbm

[cloud topaz]

ur survivors bloodstream is pure caffeine

[main hornet]

lately i've come to dislike spur, i hate not being able to jump if i want to keep my movement speed

[primal nova]

Drifter's a speedy fella

[sonic tangle]

get guaranteed high damage or leave it up to a chance for even higher damage

[sage python]

i dislike spur

[golden linden]

the disliker

[turbid escarp]

if i dont get an atg im taking it but if i get one sorry plimp

[primal nova]

Mine be charging in like 3 seconds

And then it also proceeds bands 😛

[main hornet]

are you playing with an old version of quality

[primal nova]

No im playing in a switch lite

[errant marsh]

Even if you get ATG it's only 10% better average damage on supercharged shot than 2 plimps

[primal nova]

I cant mod for shit

[onyx grove]

smart fella, more like fart smella HAHAHAHA IM SO FUNNY

[cloud topaz]

spur is fun but idk why people were acting for a while like it could replace all ur movement items not being able to jump at all if u dont wanna go to base movement is ass

[primal nova]

Its charging pretty quick cus of the amt of movement speed I have

[cloud topaz]

its fun for trimping and for stuff that scales with jump height

[fresh idol]

it can tho

[sage python]

it does

[fresh idol]

i use it that way all the time

[main hornet]

is it?

[primal nova]

Yeah and tbf I have 9 stacks of them

[golden linden]

I just consider having spur as having no movement items so when I need to jump I know that I'll have to deal with the acceleration for a bit

[sage python]

one spur is about 23 goat hooves worth of movespeed

[wet marsh]

spur is in a weird spot for me, yeah its really good and arguably one of the best greens but also at the same time it stinks

[golden linden]

11.5 no?

[fresh idol]

spur is the GOAT

[sage python]

oops yeah u right

[errant marsh]

11 hoofs one mocha

[wet marsh]

not being able to utilize hopoo on survivors that NEED it due to having spur is just soooooo ass

[main hornet]

i feel like spur should work like head stompers and only activate when you want it to, then maybe it'd need to be changed into a red item

[errant marsh]

You can use it though

[fresh idol]

that would be strong as shit

[main hornet]

like hold space to activate spur and trade the charge for a jump

[wet marsh]

yeah but you constantly lose your speed by doing that

[primal nova]

My lite is struggling to keep up 😭😭😭

Im way too fast

[sage python]

spur just needs to cap at like 25% worth of what it currently is

[errant marsh]

Only when you need to jump

[main hornet]

which is often

[turbid escarp]

remember kids, its ALWAYS morally correct to mod iron alluvium out of the game

[golden linden]

you'd be surprised how little you have to jump and you're that fast

[sage python]

spur on slide commando means you pretty much never need to jump lol

[primal nova]

Oops a voided scavenger spawned in 😭😭😭

[main hornet]

kill all solus distributors

[primal nova]

Too bad my death mark shreds

[fresh idol]

HELL YEAH

[errant marsh]

He can also fly on the moon

[mild cloak]

PEAK IN 13 MINUTES

[turbid escarp]

i skate around needing to jump by trimping off stuff with the movespeed because its the equivalent of TWENTY TWO AND A HALF hooves you do not need to jump 90% of the time with that speed

[errant marsh]

Budget artificer

[golden linden]

what

[wet marsh]

literally no buddy

[sonic tangle]

23 becauyse of maintenance

dummy

[main hornet]

wait is this jjs

[fresh idol]

literally no buddy ❌
literally no best buddy ✅

[sage python]

when i get a spur i only really jump like twice a stage

[wet marsh]

we always keep best buddy

[primal nova]

My equipment drone wants me dead

[wet marsh]

hes the best clearly

[fresh idol]

blocked

[golden linden]

we? nintendo wii?

[primal nova]

It keeps spawning glowing meteorite

[wet marsh]

wow you guys suck 3:

[main hornet]

mocha or roll of pennies (playing on typhoon where money is harder to come by)

[wet marsh]

idc if the accusations are all true ill still love my useless solus orb <3

[mild cloak]

NOOOO

[sonic tangle]

lnmao

[cloud topaz]

sticky bomb is my goat

[main hornet]

said no one ever

[gray jacinth]

Mocha

[fresh idol]

people dislike best buddy bc it's bad
i dislike it bc it's an industry plant. i will still leave it on the ground even if it turns into the best item in the game

[cloud topaz]

said me ever

[golden linden]

you hate like every good item

[turbid escarp]

sticky bomb is my goat

[main hornet]

said one person ever

[wet marsh]

i feel indifferent towards sticky bomb

[errant marsh]

I LOVE BEST BUDDY RAHHH

[main hornet]

sorry there can only be one of you, now fight to the death

[wet marsh]

it just works sometimes

[sonic tangle]

sticky bomb is my goat

[errant marsh]

Sticky bomb is MY goat

[sonic tangle]

also acs goat

[cloud topaz]

what if we just team up against you

[golden linden]

sticky bomb is my goat ✊

[wet marsh]

i think i speak for all of us that we'd date paul's goat hoof right

[sonic tangle]

maybe

[fresh idol]

i'd date mocha

[gray jacinth]

its good with some survivors

[austere prism]

pauls goat hoof nah
hopoo feather though?

[errant marsh]

I'd date elusive antlers though

[main hornet]

you wouldn't hit someone wearing glasses would you

[gray jacinth]

definitely not goat

[jade stone]

dont u mean antler shield

[errant marsh]

I would

[austere prism]

no you're right we wouldnt...

[jade stone]

[austere prism]

instead im bagging you and tossing you

[wet marsh]

theyre wearing lost seers

[cloud topaz]

what if ur wearing hikers boots

[errant marsh]

Don't call him that he really cleaned himself up

[wet marsh]

kill them quickly now

[golden linden]

you can just hit them not in the face

[errant marsh]

Got out of prison and stopped doing drugs

[golden linden]

serious question, have any of you ever took a punch to the gut

[primal nova]

Like 10 scu spawned in as the tp boss for sirens call and they all instantly died

[main hornet]

i'm wearing both and i also have a crowbar, a ukulele and a lantern

[wet marsh]

uhuh :3

it sucks

[cloud topaz]

multiple times all by accident

[turbid escarp]

nah we're all awesome

[fair knoll]

Uh, yes?

[fresh idol]

like to my neck?

[golden linden]

gut is your barriga

[turbid escarp]

yes on purpose it was awesome

[fresh idol]

oh

[jade stone]

belly

[errant marsh]

How many hours until the dev diary

[main hornet]

is this a sign that i need to go healing build

[mild cloak]

17 minutes until peak drops

[cloud topaz]

2 hours 7 mins

[turbid escarp]

asked for it even

[main hornet]

2

[upper wing]

what is wrong with you

[gray jacinth]

it hurts i heard

[vapid dagger]

i believe i have
its as debilitating as it is often depicted

[jade stone]

sign to scrap it

[wet marsh]

said no one ever /j

[fair knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[cloud topaz]

why are you blue

[primal nova]

Im at 52 mocha's now 😁

[main hornet]

what is wrong with you

[errant marsh]

EMBED FAIL

[wet marsh]

BAHAHAHAHAH

[fresh idol]

i have never took a punch in the gut but people accidentaly bumped into it it doesn't feels good
i have took a punch into my neck tho. it feels like i can't breath at all

[fair knoll]

Wait no embed perms??????

What happened

[mild cloak]

LOL???

[wet marsh]

yeah...

[errant marsh]

LAUGH AT USER

[turbid escarp]

mod with no embed perms is fucking insane 😭

[gray jacinth]

Mod embed fail

[upper wing]

POINT AND LAUGH

[fair knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943509112258428958/1502996107905466502/Aegis.gif

[sonic tangle]

i think embeds broke lmao

[wet marsh]

it... it worked...

[fair knoll]

Omg…

[sonic tangle]

i sent one in my dms and it didnt work

[vapid dagger]

its back

[mild cloak]

mod has no embed perms??

[vapid dagger]

just took a little time

[jade stone]

its so over

[upper wing]

oh

[sonic tangle]

ok its back

[fair knoll]

Oh wait it just took a hot minute

[mild cloak]

mod has embed perms

[upper wing]

there it is

[fair knoll]

I think discord is just bugging

[errant marsh]

No more laughing

[upper wing]

discord

[mild cloak]

how it feels to spread information and truth

[sonic tangle]

how it feels to chew 5 gum

[main hornet]

how it feels to get 5 shrines of chance on the first stage

[fair knoll]

That was scary

[golden linden]

damn klippy still doesn't have that homelander jumping gif yet

it would be perfect for this

[cloud topaz]

u ever walk around right after its been raining outside and listen to the ost and pretend ur on petrichor v

[sonic tangle]

imagine if there was a ? printer that you could only find out its item by using it at least once

[main hornet]

the humble shrine of order:

[sonic tangle]

or maybe it just popped out a random item each time

[fresh idol]

i wuold never use a yellow printer in my life

[sage python]

i dont think orphaned core is any worse than filial imprint, crudely drawn buddy or goobo personally

i think its mechanically interesting and its cool having a truely unique ally item, wish it functioned correctly though

[jade stone]

i printed my knurl for the electric pen thing

[golden linden]

filial imprint is better tho

[mild cloak]

none of them pay out

[main hornet]

all of them paid out

[gray jacinth]

what if there was a 3d printer that ate you and YOU became the item

[fresh idol]

wha

[mild cloak]

peak in 13 minutes

[primal nova]

Ooh wait do I get to battle solus wing again 👀

[sonic tangle]

this guy

[gray jacinth]

[sage python]

i mean i dont think its necessrily bad for an item to try be cute

[sonic tangle]

spex accepts one cerebellum per run

[sage python]

its not like ror is always really gritty

[main hornet]

crater teleporter

[jade stone]

tuff

[primal nova]

If only itd be fun

[fresh idol]

no one will replace empathy cores and queens gland

[golden linden]

it wouldn't when you deep below know it's to push the want for a marketable plushie of it

[primal nova]

BAHAHAHHA MY UTIL GOES WAY TOO HIGH

[golden linden]

and all it's social media effort was to push that agenda

[primal nova]

FUCKKK I JUMPED AND I GOT KICKED OUT OF THE THING AGAIN

[sonic tangle]

spex moment

[errant marsh]

Cool ass skeleton smoking a cool ass cigarette

[sage python]

idk i dont really engage with social media

[primal nova]

No frfr

[golden linden]

little dark woke about it but doesn't help that the item doesn't seem to be QA properly at all

[mild cloak]

you should be able to offer best buddy to the glass frog to be able to refight solus wing or something

[primal nova]

I forgot how fast my spur charges and how big the aoe is

[golden linden]

that's ok, but it is ignorant

[fresh idol]

how dare best buddy get a plushie before FMP, Empathy Cores and Queens Gland

[mild cloak]

does halc seed have one

[golden linden]

genesis loop plushie

[fresh idol]

no

[mild cloak]

this game sucks

[golden linden]

receive squid in the mail

[errant marsh]

When are we getting engi turret plushies

[main hornet]

gets uncommon n'kuhana's opinion
gets zero healing item

[onyx grove]

friggin loser.. heh…

empathy cores would be cool lowk

[fresh idol]

i was about to make a message that wouldn't be very nice

[upper wing]

is this a friggin ai sloop???? mods plx kil

[sage python]

i like this fellow

[errant marsh]

I hope not

[onyx grove]

it was a joke chill

[mild cloak]

do not chill

[upper wing]

you are a freakin ai ......................................................................

[errant marsh]

Sadly it probably is

[sage python]

i wonder why they didnt keep the golem swirlies

[fresh idol]

yeah i get thigngs too seriously

[golden linden]

it's not

[upper wing]

according to lookatthetree we have to kill you now

shit wrong reply

[sage python]

LOL

[errant marsh]

I have to kill you now

[upper wing]

was replying to this

[errant marsh]

Sorry

[upper wing]

ig we're going down together :(

[onyx grove]

fmp is forgive me please right?

[fresh idol]

yes

[golden linden]

[onyx grove]

it would be tuff as a plush

[fresh idol]

meh whatever, not like i can buy them anyway

[mild cloak]

PEAK IN FIVE MINUTES

[upper wing]

its like 2 hours away if youre referring to the devlog

[mild cloak]

❌

[golden linden]

my air fryer chicken will be done in 5 minutes, yes

[mild cloak]

loud incorrect buzzer

[lone wraith]

my diddy unc blud what do you think discord is

[errant marsh]

Mods blow this guy up

[primal nova]

Malachite is not for the weak

[fresh idol]

Mithrix only pizza'd once. collapse is cool

[golden linden]

i gotta carpet bomb your house for this one

[primal nova]

Those shits will basically almost one tap u

[sage python]

i wouldnt particularly call chatrooms social media but thats a whole can of worms

[lone wraith]

its media and its social

[upper wing]

its currently 10:06 for me and it says it drops at 12 pm

[fresh idol]

is Youtube social media?

[golden linden]

yes

[lone wraith]

yes

[sage python]

id say so

[upper wing]

10:06 am to be specific

[sage python]

for sure

[vapid dagger]

damn im gonna miss it bc i have therapy

[golden linden]

italian therapy

[lone wraith]

just suck it up and be a man bro. therapy is for the wokes

[coarse merlin]

Risk of rain is more important

[upper wing]

your mental health is more important that spooky freakin downloadable content

[main hornet]

i have a n'kuhana's opinion and with that i the only healing items i got are one slug and 2 knurls

[atomic venture]

dev diary at 10 pm for me
will watch it during haircut with my barber

[main hornet]

so no healing only regen

[primal nova]

I think I might get to the point where nothing will spawn 😭😭😭

[lone wraith]

that is tuf tuff tuff sahur my brother

[errant marsh]

Your mental health is unimportant ror2 is forever

[vapid dagger]

therapy is important to me

[errant marsh]

Joking joking

[fresh idol]

bars

[upper wing]

AI DECETED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KIL KIL KIKL!!!!!!!!!!!

[lone wraith]

oh my

[vapid dagger]

you will never convince me to abandon therapy for gearbox hype propaganda

[robust plume]

this individual´s right to speech should be taken

[upper wing]

you will be drowned in molten tar in 3 days

[lone wraith]

n-nilzer kun... a-are you alright? you're not acting... normal... 😅

[fresh idol]

cool run

[main hornet]

do i go for dagger

[jade stone]

mosst healing items are ahh tbh

[upper wing]

be there or BE SQUARE

[haughty crag]

Nilzer

[vapid dagger]

why do yall think i have therapy anyway

[errant marsh]

Embed fail

[upper wing]

hi

[jade stone]

leeching seeds literally gives you 1 hp

[fresh idol]

lol

[haughty crag]

Buy me Rogue Core

[main hornet]

i'm playing with quality

[lone wraith]

because of the vaccines

[robust plume]

you play risk of rain

[haughty crag]

🥺

[upper wing]

i dont have moneeeeeyyyyy

[haughty crag]

😔

[upper wing]

i lowkey would tho

[errant marsh]

Vaccines cause ror2

[lone wraith]

rogue core is garbage as fuck bro dont buy it

[past yoke]

depends

[fresh idol]

i'm all ears

[robust plume]

risk of rain 2 causes vaccines- looks at soldier´s syringe

[past yoke]

who you playing

[vapid dagger]

the vaccinator causes ror2

[lone wraith]

they had a 1 year closed alpha period and listened to 0 of the feedback

[main hornet]

i mean it's good crowd control

[main hornet]

commando

[upper wing]

whuh oh

[jade stone]

tri tip dagger maybe

[lone wraith]

i know because i was there from day 1 and it's the same game to this day with all the terrible flaws

[past yoke]

yeah

[lone wraith]

so i somehow doubt they're keen on going back on the questionable game design and im starting to believe drg was just a fluke

[candid ridge]

me killing the vaccine doctor when I was 1 week old:

[past yoke]

just pray your mocha doesnt get taken

[main hornet]

ceremonial dagger

not tri-tip

[errant marsh]

Maybe like 5th or 6th best proc character 🔥

[mild cloak]

PEAK IS HERE

[vapid dagger]

commando does fine with proc
only like engineer false son and seeker are better proccers than commando

[main hornet]

then how come i haven't gotten a single ping from outside this server

[errant marsh]

Operator

[lone wraith]

i reckon he's more like top 6 or perhaps top 7 in terms of that

[vapid dagger]

and thats bc theyre OVERPOWERED

[errant marsh]

Chef

[main hornet]

captain:

[mild cloak]

IT'S SO PEAK

[main hornet]

oh it's gachaslop

[vapid dagger]

after playing a bunch of operator and commando
no

[lone wraith]

woke weeb nonsense. ban this fuck

[main hornet]

🥀

[jade stone]

merc?

idk

[fresh idol]

hmmmm that's about right
engi, double nail powermode, chef......?

[vapid dagger]

even with nanobugged and admin override operator does not proc as well as commando

[errant marsh]

Idk man I've never had a proc operator run where everything doesn't die instantly

[sage python]

this image is a really inattractive endorsement sorry

[sonic tangle]

lmaooo

[stray palm]

Why risk of rain soundtrack only bangers? Who told them that it was ok to cook this hard?

[candid ridge]

shaped glass:

[main hornet]

beads of fealty is the best lunar item because it's technically a pearl/irradiant pearl

[sonic tangle]

dont think too much about it fpx

[vapid dagger]

the thing is
theyd die instantly with commando too

[cloud topaz]

i wanna add ror2 characters to my tomodachi life do i basically make commando’s head a pale yellow orb

[sonic tangle]

yes

[lone wraith]

can you add italy man?

[vapid dagger]

captain ties with commando in close range

[atomic venture]

kill 8 billion solus scorchers

[fresh idol]

i just put Chef there bc i don't really know how strong is Chef

[cloud topaz]

who the hell is the italy man

[sonic tangle]

chef is funny

[atomic venture]

five hundred gasoline

[lone wraith]

give me 1 second

[fresh idol]

but Commando range and slide at 4 seconds is too good

[sage python]

captain is great at procs but not as apt at switching targets due to ofc using a shotgun

[main hornet]

2 ignition tanks

[errant marsh]

Ive had very similar runs with mando where im struggling much more for damage

[sage python]

still excellent primary ofc

[errant marsh]

I don't think thats true

[fresh idol]

yeah his shotgun only outdamages double tap at close range

[main hornet]

ukulele?

[errant marsh]

Mainly because of nanobugged

[lone wraith]

he's my oc but like i stole him off google images and only removed the background but he's all mine basically

meet italy man my oc

[vapid dagger]

i have not wittnessed this in a good while with my commando gameplay

[candid ridge]

ok which of these reds is best

[fresh idol]

engi, double nail and Commando is my list

[lone wraith]

feel free to draw any fanart you wish

[cloud topaz]

son im crine

[main hornet]

shattering justice

[vapid dagger]

i frequently forego even getting bleed and do plenty of damage

[sonic tangle]

difference in skill

[errant marsh]

True

[sonic tangle]

neither operator nor commando are wanting for damage

[errant marsh]

Going into the files to buff mando on my console

[primal nova]

AUR HELL NAUR A COMBAT SHRINE SAID OH YEAH LEMME JS SPAWN IN SOME SCAVENGERS

[main hornet]

armor reduction + debuff to count for death mark

[sonic tangle]

in fact i dont think anyone deals too little damage

[primal nova]

Also ive on I y gotten a singular hermit fucker to fall off the map I think I need what 17 more

[main hornet]

son i'm crine 😭

dry basin or gilded coast

[errant marsh]

I always have enough damage to win but operator feels like he does double the damage mando does lol

[lone wraith]

oops fuck i didnt mean to leak that new survivor 😅

[vapid dagger]

you also have to remember that i use phase round and suppressive fire so its not like i have huge burst damage options for commando

[lone wraith]

im such a clutz

[main hornet]

we all know it's pilot

[vapid dagger]

hes just good

you dont need much damage and his proc is fine

[lone wraith]

i would kill myself if i was forced to use the fucking grenade for 1 run

[sage python]

we are getting pilot and sniper for sure

[atomic venture]

i just realized that ignition tank can work on hit too, and not just after fire attack

[wanton dock]

Phase round procs bands too right?

[vapid dagger]

enforcer is never coming back

[main hornet]

wait we're getting sniper??

[vapid dagger]

on the second hit

[errant marsh]

I don't think any character is bad but mando definitely isn't as good at proc as operator is

[atomic venture]

no

[main hornet]

reasons why ifrit's distinction is one of the best aspects

[atomic venture]

please not a sniper ,we already have railgunner
GIVE ME MINER

[vapid dagger]

the reason i believe enforcer isnt coming back is bc of operator alts

[turbid escarp]

three fucking opinions dude

[sage python]

mine is mul-t powermode

[errant marsh]

Enforcer looks boring anyway

[robust plume]

why does it say bandit is that not literally the captain

[fresh idol]

well maybe if you get some lysate and bandoliers he gets more potential

[main hornet]

it's a sign

[vapid dagger]

you get a front facing shield and a stun bomb attack

[sage python]

tank character with high firerate defensive mode with ample access to crowd stuns

[robust plume]

have you considered any of them

[turbid escarp]

ive considered how much i hate gearbox

[errant marsh]

Skill issue

Should've played rex

[fresh idol]

damn Pilot's Ascent Protocol has 7 seconds

[main hornet]

i don't see the issue with opinion it's pretty strong

[errant marsh]

Bait

[lone wraith]

i genuinely dont want returning content anymore, like just let ror1 and returns have its own exclusives and be a bit more creative

[main hornet]

transport drone kill this guy

[sage python]

yes !!!

[main hornet]

no?

[robust plume]

FUCK THAT GIVE US THE RED PLANE

[sage python]

its ok to have unique casts thank you

[lone wraith]

i dont see an update for returns adding in void items so how is it fair to make that game less unique over time by porting its content over but not the other way around smh

[fresh idol]

meh

[vapid dagger]

also
i cant help but feel like the command swarm skill exists bc someone looked at thermal harpoons and got annoyed that it didnt scale well and didnt do "thermal" damage

[sage python]

ror2 is kinda becoming an everyone is here type game

[vapid dagger]

its kind of just thermal harpoons if it didnt suck

[fresh idol]

uuuuuh so what
fighting games release old characters all the time

[main hornet]

i've never played the other risk of rains and i thought it would be nice to have the characters from those games come to ror2

[onyx grove]

it’s still tuff

[robust plume]

Tbf if they can do it the way they did railgunner or operator i´m on board

[fresh idol]

i don't want old characters bc i just want new shit not old stuff
it's kind of whatever

[errant marsh]

Imagine if engineer had a good utility

[lone wraith]

with these 2 they did it perfectly yes

[sage python]

id recommend playing them then :)

[primal nova]

Is 61 mocha's fast enough 😭😭😭

[main hornet]

nah, not my kind of games

[errant marsh]

I tried ror1 and hated it

[sage python]

how do you know

[main hornet]

played similar games

[iron palm]

I tried returns and thought it was absolute bullshit so I'd like to be able to play its characters without having to actually play the game

[turbid escarp]

no you need double that

[fresh idol]

yeah ror1 is terrible
Returns is like a 7/10 at best if you're very lenient towards it

[robust plume]

in terms of items there´s a degree to which it´s pretty cool to have returning items since the two games still wildly vary in the way a lot of things can be applied

[turbid escarp]

isnt utility the shift? harpoons are amazing 😭

[fresh idol]

to me Returns is a 4/10

[primal nova]

NOII my lite will crash

[robust plume]

in terms of stages please give us more returning stages

[errant marsh]

Harpoons are mid

[sage python]

rorr has some pretty bs elements

[turbid escarp]

me when im wrong and dumb and stupid and grrrr

[main hornet]

imagine if engineer had a good primary. oh wait there's

[cloud topaz]

i loved returns tried to play ror1 so i could play the full version of starstorm and u just cannot find a comfortable control scheme on keyboard 😭

[sage python]

im not a huge fan of a lot of the rorr balance changes

[turbid escarp]

do i go in or nah

[robust plume]

from my experience returns is pretty fun but hard as fucking balls

[jade stone]

how do i play loader

[cloud topaz]

i like the artstyle in the original version

[errant marsh]

Fuck it we ball

That's the mental

[iron palm]

i wouldnt even say it feels difficult it just feels horrendously unfair to the player

[vapid dagger]

returns balance when huntress comes in with laser cyclone and pierce

[robust plume]

you swing. Get as much speed as humanly possible the faster you go the more damage you deal

[turbid escarp]

speed item, learn to grapple properly, bands and atgs, you can sprint right after grappling for more movespeed, go for grapples into shifts because speed = damage for it

[lone wraith]

yeah im not sure if it actually is unfair but it really does feel like straight bullshit a lot of the time

[main hornet]

frost relic genuinely goated item

[sage python]

they made everything deal 40% more damage cause it looked nicer on paper for example

[primal nova]

Yes

[robust plume]

why

[jade stone]

do i just grapple enemies

[primal nova]

Mine is almost always active 😁

[cloud topaz]

1 and returns are a lot more traditional roguelike difficulty

[sage python]

it kinda amplified the chip damage

[errant marsh]

Frelic is goated it increases my fov

[fresh idol]

which makes it a bad game

[primal nova]

Playing on monsoon btw

[sage python]

ror1 has a global 0.7x damage multiplier and they removed it

[turbid escarp]

zzz mid

[iron palm]

so they took the game that was already like 10x harder than ror2 and said lets make it 1.4x harder for no reason

or am i missing some context here

[main hornet]

wait why is it blue

[errant marsh]

Why are you blue

[primal nova]

I might be able to get to stage 20 if ion crash first

[robust plume]

is that why there´s an option to reduce the damage you take and deal in the menu

[fresh idol]

prestige brainrot is real what

[sage python]

player also does 1.4x damage, but it is moreso in enemy's favour

they made ttk faster across the board

[robust plume]

you always touch these if you´re not a coward

[vapid dagger]

suprise a blighted spitter with overloading and volatile powers spawned next to you
get close and you die
walk away and you die
dont notice it and you die

[quiet patrol]

500 wandering vagrants nuking at once

[robust plume]

double the bosses on the teleporter but double rewards

[main hornet]

just get behind cover that's easy

[errant marsh]

Not correct actually

[sage python]

they also made elites have a higher damage multiplier as well

[main hornet]

does he know

[quiet patrol]

you're on distant roost in the middle of the map

[robust plume]

she probably doesnt know

[cloud topaz]

it does mean its a lot higher chance of it not being somebodies thing but i love coming back to it every now and then

[main hornet]

skill issue

[sage python]

which makes what was previously chip damage from overloadings real damn potent

[wanton dock]

An IQ too high

[errant marsh]

Add 100% director credits per mountain shrine and add 1 reward per mountain shrine

[quiet patrol]

neoteric loaders gets an eyeball with visions of heresy

[fresh idol]

cool stage one

[robust plume]

fair

[quiet patrol]

'

[main hornet]

on the topic of elites can we talk about gilded elites

[sage python]

not that they didnt also change stuff in the player's favour

[wanton dock]

What about em

[main hornet]

they turbo suck why are they tier 1 elites

have you seen the stat multipliers

[iron palm]

theyre not actually tier 1

[robust plume]

why the fuck

[sage python]

items are generally stronger and survivors that were slower than base speed now match base speed

[main hornet]

they are

[iron palm]

theyre like in between tier 1 and tier 2

[jade stone]

how do i use deux ex machina

[main hornet]

parry

[fresh idol]

tier 1.5
smile face

[wanton dock]

Gilded is like, annoying. I personally don’t mind them ever since they were reworked

[main hornet]

gilded solus amalgamator jumpscare

[sage python]

i dont like that gildeds drop gold if they hit allies

[iron palm]

gilded enemies can actaully be helpful now if you have allies to get hit or if theres a void seed

[wanton dock]

I remember when they were unkillable bcs of all that god damn damage reduction they had

[iron palm]

i thought it wa shilarious how everyone shat their pants about twisted elites when gilded elites were far worse

[main hornet]

fucking times 5 hp

[errant marsh]

They're genuinely beneficial lmao

Free money

[golden linden]

ramer alt account

[sage python]

yeah

[fresh idol]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[main hornet]

just swap gilded and celestine at this point

[iron palm]

who is that

[wanton dock]

Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a loooong time…

[sage python]

nah unavoidable high damage is worse

[iron palm]

um fuck no

[wanton dock]

Lights cigar

[golden linden]

doesn't really matter

[main hornet]

celestine elites literally do fuckall and nothing

[vapid dagger]

sorry
as bad as gildeds were
twisteds were always worse
the fact that twisteds could just instantly obliterate you for touching the wrong enemy briefly at the wrong time made them far worse

[sage python]

they have a quarter more health and deal 50% more damage than regular elites, its not that bad

[main hornet]

it's that bad when a boss becomes gilded

[sage python]

blazing and overloading enemies already dealt more than the 2x advertised

[vapid dagger]

gilded's were bad
but they were never instant death for a single stray shot causing a few too many on hit effects

[main hornet]

the issue is that they're way too tanky

[iron palm]

1: they only appear after looping so if you dont wanna deal with them you can choose to not loop
2: its only 2.5% of your max hp per hit which can be reduced with armour, repulsion armour,
3: if you're looping you kind of need something unfair to keep you in check anyway, celestines and even malachites to some extent barely matter for looping runs and collective enemies can be shut down by hitting them twice

[errant marsh]

Gildeds were unavoidable and constantly spammed

[vapid dagger]

or simply having voidsent go off

[errant marsh]

While having ridiculous stats

[sage python]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ i dont find them too bad

[iron palm]

i have only ever died to an old twisted once

[vapid dagger]

me too

they sucked

[upper wing]

havent heard of that name in ages

[iron palm]

whereas the old gilded enemies

[sage python]

pretty equivalent to overloadings imo

[iron palm]

basicall yfucked with every single one of my runs

[errant marsh]

Genuinely the only survivors I felt were playable at lauch sots was like bugged loader and launch false son

[iron palm]

they rarely ever killed me but they made early stages take so much longer

[primal nova]

Hello and welcome to your dead

[upper wing]

i think they both sucked ass

[vapid dagger]

i agree with that

[errant marsh]

Yeah they did

[fresh idol]

thats what i like about twisteds, its very unlikely they kill you if you play well, but their opressive denial of your options is what makes them fun.
ffs, im on stage 8+ give me a challenge, 2 repulsion armor plates and some scythes/life seeds already mitigate twisteds tremendously, also this is post loop, you should have some heal to recover decently out of combat,i have never been killed by them once i learnt how they work.
they offer what loop runs dont have "a challenge", i dont think i ever saw the malachite and celestine debuffs until twisted elites were added, and its awesome.
If they just gave them some cooldown to the retaliation to make them less unpredictable they would be awesome.
making you need to stay inside their small bubble to make them do anything already gives you so much control over the board it makes them a joke with the movement speed you usually have at this stage

[primal nova]

Ive gotten to the point where idk what items to get now

[iron palm]

Did you play at higher frame rates

[upper wing]

there is no “one was worse”

they were both horrible for the game

[vapid dagger]

of course 57 comes in with the copy pasta

[errant marsh]

Played on xbox

Im pretty sure despite that she was still way faster

[golden linden]

ratatouilie critic guy remembering his childhood

dot gif

[iron palm]

oh

[wanton dock]

U can just download the gif bro

[iron palm]

[sage python]

you can just type it out bro

[golden linden]

I'm having the gif spawn in your head

[errant marsh]

Could be wrong though

[sage python]

tony stark shrugging dot gif

[primal nova]

4 seconds in and the mending wvs are deaddd

[wanton dock]

I won’t deny that it worked

[errant marsh]

Also bring back craftable aspects

🙏

[main hornet]

epic win

[main hornet]

yeah why did they remove that

[vapid dagger]

combustible fluids

[errant marsh]

More features = bad idk

[sonic tangle]

probably because it devalued their rarity

personally i dont care either way

[main hornet]

but like you still needed one of the many red items to even craf them

[sage python]

id rather them remove all of them than remove some of them

[golden linden]

it made wov more desireable

[sage python]

i dislike the needless compartmentalisation of dlc

[errant marsh]

I always felt like aspects are too rare for their own good

[wanton dock]

Wall of Vlesh

[primal nova]

Their health is nonexistent

[vapid dagger]

i still think they should buff solus heart and nerf solus wing

[sonic tangle]

of one mind is definitely the one that makes the most sense to be craftable

[sage python]

why are we left with purely a one mind recipe?

[sonic tangle]

nerf solus wing?

in how

[main hornet]

wake of vultures is really good, you can get all aspects for a medium amount of time or you could craft it into an aspect to have it permanently

[sage python]

i think they just need to communicate wing better

[terse ferry]

swing doesn't really need a nerf it just needs a real audio indicator for laser grid

[errant marsh]

I feel like swing could just use a better arena for low range survivors

[sage python]

the difficulty is fine

[sonic tangle]

that i can agree with

[vapid dagger]

less tank
it takes too long to kill

[sonic tangle]

eeeh i dont feel that way

[wanton dock]

Solus wing is the only slightly challenging boss in the game that takes at minimum 3 brain cells more than Mithrix

And you want to nerf it

[sonic tangle]

solus wing has always been a well paced fight for me

[golden linden]

during that time I timed solus wing every run it never went past 5min

[sonic tangle]

hell i usually get upset if i kill solus wing too fast

[sage python]

id nerf the ring attack

[errant marsh]

I like current swing except for the survivors with bad matchups into it

[vapid dagger]

idk i use my brain less against wing than i do for mithrix

[sonic tangle]

because i didnt get to experience the cool fight in its fullest

[sonic tangle]

that is purely a you thing

[errant marsh]

The fight actually is too slow for low range survivors

[sonic tangle]

but itd be nice to remove cheese from solus wing yeah

[sage python]

the initial knockback is stupid

[main hornet]

safer spaces kinda trivialises the laser grid and ring attack

[sonic tangle]

purple orbs exists

[terse ferry]

obligatory "mithrix vs the concept of aiming"

[vapid dagger]

solus wing doesnt need 2 billion armor at least

[errant marsh]

They should patch out ring double hits

[sonic tangle]

those are frustratingly good at popping your shields

[sage python]

mid run bosses cant get away with being spectacles as easily as mithrix imo

[sonic tangle]

this is true

make it not do that because its dumb

[sage python]

so swing being a little harder is appropriate

[sonic tangle]

but also lowkey buff the red ring?

its kind of just a worse version of the regular one

[terse ferry]

yeah why does it remove the shockwave 😭

[sage python]

i wish the laser grid was just one big hitbox

[sonic tangle]

also idk how the fight could be made better for melee survivors ngl

[sage python]

well not one

[main hornet]

bridges

[vapid dagger]

it is yes but the ring attack that has a melee hitbox the size of texas surrounding it just needs to just not have that hitbox period

[sonic tangle]

i definitely find the fight vs solus wing as melee survivors not as fun as ranged

[errant marsh]

Better arena would help

[sage python]

but each laser being individual has bad feedback

[main hornet]

wheelchair accessible arena

[golden linden]

I don't really have a problem on swing with melee survivors

[sonic tangle]

i dont have any problem killing solus wing

its just not as fun to me

[golden linden]

all of them have tools for the fight

[sonic tangle]

i kind of just tank all the attacks

[vapid dagger]

i dont either
i have a problem with stupid attacks doing stupid things it doesnt need to

[errant marsh]

I can usually just eat the ring on monsoon but on eclipse the ring really slows the fight down

[gentle copper]

the shockwave from blue walls attack is annoying but other than that melee swing is just a 3 minute slugfest

[terse ferry]

i actually really like laser grid being the way it is because it gives you leeway if you know how to space it, even if it does have the feeling-like-it-should-hit-you issue

[upper wing]

i wonder what everyone’s gearbox timeline is

ill give mine

pre sots: “wow theyre actually kinda cooking??”

sots launch: “these guys are incompetent in every manner”

sots post-fixes: “why the hell wasn’t this what we got in the first place”

ac reveal: “alright ig”

ac launch: “these guys are actually doing pretty good? i wonder what happened”

post ac: “wow only one hotfix? those higher ups REALLY dont want a healthy game”

hc reveal: “okay.”

i hope that their future is glorious, i just feel kinda bleh about the state of everything

[main hornet]

oh my god redshifter my beloved

[golden linden]

so I can't really be empathetic to the sentiment

[sonic tangle]

yeah i just hold m1 on the weakpoint

[errant marsh]

[main hornet]

wdym only one hotfix isn't ac really good?

[vapid dagger]

jesus christ the "i dont struggle with it so its not a problem" isnt even worth considering for me bc its just dumb that it exists in the first place

[sage python]

sometimes it feels like it should kill you and sometimes it does way more damage than you expect cause you touch an intersection

[sonic tangle]

oh thats true i didnt consider this actually

[upper wing]

ac got a single post launch hotfix

[terse ferry]

oh i didn't even know intersections worked like that

[sage python]

at least i think they do ??

[main hornet]

and is that really an issue?

[sonic tangle]

personally i would just make laser grid have very distinct safe and non safe zones

[vapid dagger]

the giant spherical hitbox that hits you for being kind of close to the boss is just stupid

[terse ferry]

when you have things like the orphaned core attack hitbox yes

[vapid dagger]

i dont care how much you do or dont struggle with it
it shouldnt exist

[upper wing]

when there are several weird bugs that still exist yeah id say so

[sonic tangle]

since if you stand still you have a very high chance of just not getting hit by laser grid even if you make no effort to dodge it

[sage python]

idk i just noticed the damage felt really inconsistent and assumed

[sage python]

ya

[sonic tangle]

which sucks because dodging laser grid is one of the most ass clenching and satisfying things

[main hornet]

i think that's kinda a minor bug

[golden linden]

I wish the pink wall attack had the blast from the blue wall attack

[main hornet]

it's not gamebreaking

[sonic tangle]

and failing to do so and not being punished is stupid

[golden linden]

it's cool to time for it

[upper wing]

thats a whole ass red item that barely works

[terse ferry]

you'd be surprised how badly it fucks the item over

[gentle copper]

pre sots: wow more risk of rain

sots launch: this is a rough first impression i hope this gets better

sots post-fixes: i got basically everything i asked for

ac reveal: wow more risk of rain

ac launch: wow more risk of rain

post ac: i hope they make more stuff for risk of rain

hc reveal: wow more risk of rai

[vapid dagger]

i can not sympathize with this sentiment at all bc the attack itself existing pisses me off to no end

[golden linden]

that's ok

[main hornet]

[errant marsh]

The ring is basically a massive fuck you to melee survivors lol

[upper wing]

axii with all due respect i think its foolish to think that just leaving a bunch of bugs in the game so you can fix em later is okay

the game is playable, i wont deny that, but it still irks me that there isnt a huge desire to polish the game as much as possible

[vapid dagger]

the reason i fight solus wing the way i do is bc the everything about the fight makes me want to just not engage with the fight

[golden linden]

I like to time for it

[sonic tangle]

its not a massive fuck you but its kind of just an annoying thing

[main hornet]

just give them time

[wanton dock]

They should add electro rail cannons for melee survivors to use against swing for burst dmg

That would be funny

[upper wing]

buddy i been giving them time

[sonic tangle]

drifter basically has to tank it

[upper wing]

fair nuff

[sonic tangle]

dodging the shockwave as drifter isnt ever worth the effort unless youre on e8 i guess

[main hornet]

maybe i'm just more patient since i've seen WAY worse

[vapid dagger]

its not like you still dont have to time your evasion of the ring itself

[errant marsh]

You know how the heat vents make swing take damage

[upper wing]

its not the worst ever sure but it still irks me

[golden linden]

not exactly this but you reminded me of that cool gauss cannon you can bring to the provi fight

[errant marsh]

What if they added like reactors for melee survivors to destroy around the arena

[vapid dagger]

yeah that barely matters bc the boss has so much fucking hp

[upper wing]

also its not even the speed of hotfixes, its the lack of them

[main hornet]

besides for the time being you can fix it with mods, unless you're on console then rip

[sonic tangle]

merc has plenty options to dodge it at least

[sonic tangle]

they should buff heat vent damage imo

[upper wing]

this just feels horrible to do

[wanton dock]

Now THIS is a need and nobody knows it’s a need

[gentle copper]

i will take the good with the bad since i used to play bethesda fallout games religiously (especially 76) but man ironing out the bugs in a timely manner is so important

[terse ferry]

merc vs swing is one of the best matchups against swing and it's really funny

[sonic tangle]

i always just destroy the heat vents anyway

[upper wing]

thats just me tho

[main hornet]

it's just a temporary thing before they actually fix it

[vapid dagger]

that would buff it for the player too and i dont think thats good

[sonic tangle]

loader can do the whole hit and run thing

[main hornet]

i'm certain that there will be a big bugfix wave after hc releases that will also fix older bugs

[sonic tangle]

against the player you mean

[upper wing]

id rather get fixes outside of major releases but ig im just crazy for that

[sonic tangle]

thats a fair concern

[main hornet]

just wait a bit more i'd say

[golden linden]

drift can leap away
merc can iframe it
acrid can leap away
loader already punches and goes away
false son lol

[primal nova]

This how yk u have way too much movement speed

[vapid dagger]

drifter cant really leap away
thats how big it is

[main hornet]

scrapper and cleasing pool next to eachother ❤️

[vapid dagger]

at least not without movespeed

[errant marsh]

Its not that there isn't counterplay it just slows the fight down too much

[gentle copper]

they done corporatized our risk of rain 2 we must seize the means of bug fixing

[golden linden]

I've been doing it

[primal nova]

Its when spur charges hella quick in a matter of seconds and u can fling urself across the map

[errant marsh]

Sometimes

[golden linden]

it's fun

[upper wing]

tragic

[cloud topaz]

i think they did say there would be a large bugfix rolling out either before or with hc anyway im hoping they are just aggregating as many bugs as possible

[errant marsh]

Especially on eclipse but yk that's because eclipse is evil

[sonic tangle]

drifter cannot leap away reactively from my experience

you have to do it before the attack windup even occurs

[main hornet]

yeah they're probably planning to fix everything at once

[sonic tangle]

or else you almost always get hit

[vapid dagger]

that i see as a problem

[vital depot]

Yeah that’s all they’ve been doing

[errant marsh]

Can tornado slam get away in time

[vapid dagger]

maybe

[golden linden]

it would too

[main hornet]

STAGE 3 MY FIRST HEALING ITEM FINALLY

[golden linden]

it's very lenient

[terse ferry]

probably but i imagine its hitbox would collide with swing
never tested tho

[upper wing]

drifter is up there in terms of “gold standard for dlc survivors”

[vapid dagger]

it would bounce off

idk drifter i dont think makes me think that highly of her the more i play her

[upper wing]

as much as i wanna love void fiend i cant in good faith put him up there when he doesnt even have alt abilities

[vital depot]

The PS5 version of ror2 has a bug with the logbook or something where previous logged runs dont get deleted and eventually the game stops being able to run because of the load times

But they’re saving the fix for that to be released with the next major update (dlc release)

[sonic tangle]

railgunner feels like the standard to me

not too complicated but brings something really new to the table

[errant marsh]

Drifter somehow feels like the most balanced dlc survivor to me

[sonic tangle]

and strong but not whatever sots is

[upper wing]

same

[vapid dagger]

she gets away with everything and it feels uninteresting to me

[terse ferry]

it's real bad when you consider the viend lovers and the viend haters both agree on that one thing that needs to be changed

[upper wing]

for me its railgunner and operator

[errant marsh]

I think operator is too strong

[terse ferry]

and the neutral parties who don't feel much for viend

[main hornet]

that and also all of his skins fucking suck

[vapid dagger]

i dont

[upper wing]

i dont think viend is as much of a mess as people say he is but i think alt skills are needed

[vapid dagger]

he consistently gets outperformed by commando in my hands

[errant marsh]

Weird

[sonic tangle]

i think operator just has a very different skill requirement and is also less consistent

[vapid dagger]

without slide or phase blast in the picture

[sonic tangle]

since he relies on both items and drones

[upper wing]

viend’s biggest problem to me is that he just feels too normal for what he is

alt skills would immediately fix this issue if they were a little more “out there”

[terse ferry]

operator is OP but in a much more fun way than most of the other survivors and i can appreciate that

that said kill the proc co on nanobug

[main hornet]

we could have gotten a decompile skin for void fiend just imagine how good that would have been

[sonic tangle]

but otherwise this is just difference in experience lol

[primal nova]

Spur go brr if I fling myself more and more ima crash

[vapid dagger]

even with ideal circumstances he doesnt do as well as commando

[sonic tangle]

how many operator hours do you have and how many commando hours do you have

[vital depot]

I love operator

[vapid dagger]

commando's highs are higher and his lows arent as low

[errant marsh]

What are you running as operator lol

[upper wing]

chat i have a question

[sonic tangle]

operator is easily better or at least more flexible

[vapid dagger]

ive tried various loadouts
command swarm with firewall feels more comparable than the defaults do

[primal nova]

NOTHING SHALL SERVIVE NOT EVEN ME MWAHAHAHHA

[terse ferry]

operator's lows are his m1 and m2 with a skill that gives you stun + knockup + doubled damage and multiplied procs idk girlie

[dire sail]

I’ve been doing Wing as Drifter on E8 and what I do is I leap in after one blast is used, then I run when my leap is almost off cooldown, because that’s around the time Wing is ready to attack again

[upper wing]

i asked people in theorycrafting this yesterday but
if you could have one item, skin, or other thing implemented into the game as some sort of reference to you, what would you do? id personally do a commando skin

[vapid dagger]

i dont know how much of a difference the special makes for operator tho

[sonic tangle]

neat

[errant marsh]

Massive difference

[main hornet]

void fiend decompile skin PLEASE GEARBOX I NEED THIS

[vital depot]

Operator’s Ascent Protocol tech is such a fun ride

[terse ferry]

1% chance for goobo jr. to use the "gummessa" prefix instead of the "gummy" prefix

[vapid dagger]

maybe i dont use it enough then

[errant marsh]

I run double gunner with default skills and halcyonite dies like instantly with nanobugged

[sonic tangle]

again difference in experience

[primal nova]

Switch support frfr 😁
Tahts what i want

[sonic tangle]

you have some thousands of hours on commando and maybe double digits on operator at most

cant really compare lmao

[vapid dagger]

nanobugged always feels incredibly underwhelming when i use it and amp core doesnt really feel like it helps as much as just shooting the guy with suppressive fire

[golden linden]

very funny

[terse ferry]

op specials are pretty much "do you want literally everything packed in one skill or two bombs"

[vapid dagger]

amp core has good aoe tho

its basically better grenade

[sonic tangle]

what are the numbers for nanobugged again

[upper wing]

good thats what they are

[terse ferry]

AC have you been doing the thing where you wait for an enemy to reach the apex of its height before shooting them nanobugged

[terse ferry]

100% total damage, split into 120% base damage hits, with a 0.5 proc coeff per hit

[sonic tangle]

100% total da ok yeah

[vital depot]

default special is both a mobility tool and a great damage tool, nanobugged as a status effect is also naturally a plus for Deathmark

[terse ferry]

not sure about radius or cd

[vapid dagger]

its basically just double damage with a 0.5 proc coef on the bonus

[sonic tangle]

yes double damage

moving on

[upper wing]

thats really good i think

[vapid dagger]

no but i guess i should be

[vapid dagger]

it should be
never feels like it is

[vital depot]

If you’re having fun it’s both at the same time

[sonic tangle]

because it technically has a dps cap

[golden linden]

ejection core is very good all around

[vapid dagger]

commando just has more overall damage outright and still has access to drones anyway

[terse ferry]

the "split into 120%" is very important because it makes a 600% damage 1.0 proc coeff attack turn into 600% 1.0 + 120%x5 0.5x5

[sonic tangle]

its like ignite effects in this regard

[upper wing]

oh, feels? yeah sure it might feel flimsy but its like really good statistically

[sonic tangle]

the damage comes with time rather than instantly

which yes makes it feel weaker

[errant marsh]

Nanobugged definitely does not feel weak

[uneven bloom]

0.1% chance to add a png of me to the skybox at 1% transparency

[vapid dagger]

i agree with this
im not saying nanobugged is bad

[terse ferry]

flamethrower syndrome pretty much

[sonic tangle]

erm

[vapid dagger]

just that it always feels underwhelming when i use it compared to commando just shooting the target

[upper wing]

ah yeah fair enough

[tawdry hornet]

so nanobug or the other one

[terse ferry]

nano

[mild cloak]

wait this is goated as hell

[vapid dagger]

in the time it takes for operator to apply nano bugged commando can strip the enemy of half its hp

[upper wing]

goin for a walk rn it’s absolutely beautiful outside

[terse ferry]

thing about nanobugged is that if you nanobug an enemy and deal half of their health then that enemy is just fucking dead and you can move on to another one
and if you have any proc items it doesn't even have to be half health

[tawdry hornet]

i see. i've been enjoying alt operator lately since it's a nice break from his usually passive playstyle

[sonic tangle]

ac is doing a little bit of self gaslighting

[upper wing]

ac i have a recommendation

[vapid dagger]

itll have to wait for later

[upper wing]

start a completely new save and just start playing

[vapid dagger]

but shoot

[main hornet]

gas printer is a perfectly balanced thing

[vital depot]

i love that what comes packaged with nanobugged is an aoe effect, a stun, vertical mobility, drone cycling, and placement

[upper wing]

i did that a couple days ago and its genuinely been a blast

[turbid escarp]

alright railgunner run done, whos next

[vapid dagger]

i might do that

[tawdry hornet]

commando!!!

[primal nova]

EXCUSE ME WHAT MY SPUR AT A HUNDY PERCENT IS ABT A 4TH OR HALF OF THE MAP 😭😭😭