ror2-discussion

[sage python]

thats all you need to know tho

[vital escarp]

ok but like why wouldnt you make a room as big like that tho

[molten hound]

the teaser

[rancid temple]

What teaser?

Has there been a bunch of stuff that I just completely missed?

[molten hound]

the hallowed concepts teaser twinanem

[molten hound]

pretty sure yea 💔

[rancid temple]

I've been keeping up with the shorts and videos, and I don't remeber any of the official announcement trailers explicitly stating we were only getting two

[molten hound]

lemme check if its on the youtuube hol uop

[sonic tangle]

its on the steam page for the dlc

they explicitly mention 2 survivors

[molten hound]

yurp

[rancid temple]

Ah I hadn't thought to check there

[rancid temple]

That trailer does not mention new character amounts at all

I just rewatched it

[molten hound]

oh i just assumed it was the one didnt actually watch it, steam page must be the thing im thinking bout

[rancid temple]

Twinnamon roll😭

[knotty canyon]

the steam page specifically says two survivors but it's true that the trailer doesn't say it anywhere

i'm sure they'll state it in the diary airing tomorrow too

[fresh idol]

5757

uuuuuh i change my mind
5755

[sacred elk]

Marbel mosmic binbasin

[golden linden]

inject shapez 2 in my veins

I finally understand why trains in factory games are awesome

[robust plume]

Wait i thought we´d get three survivors

there´s three escape pods in the trailer 💔

[sonic tangle]

ac had 3

[austere prism]

it did?

wasnt it drifter and operator

[keen inlet]

Dont forget Robomando

[sonic tangle]

ac had 3 escape pods in the trailer

[austere prism]

oh wait

[austere prism]

oops you were talking ab escape pods 💔

[knotty canyon]

they always just do that cuz they're always showing off multiplayer

[robust plume]

do you have direct communications with mr gearbox

can you tell them to not do that anymore i think two escape pods is good enough

[silent bear]

wait I can't find where it says 2 new survivors on the steam page

but I swear I also remember it saying that

oh wait yeah I did find it

I also did have the impression at first for three survivors from the trailer at first 😢

[keen inlet]

SotS also stated only two new survivors before devotion update leaked false son

[silent bear]

damn fr

well I don't think it's that likely this time around since... well sots had all the stuff going on so yk

[upper wing]

this is untrue i believe

the sots steam page simply stated "survivors"

before it was updated and all that

the first official mention of the quantity was in the announcement of dd3 for sots

[silent bear]

oh but I'm just happy that we're getting more n'kuhana lore 😛

[upper wing]

huuuuge

[robust plume]

i am begging on my fucking knees i want the red plane to be the next one

if this game´s update cycle ends and we don´t get the red plane i will die

[golden linden]

I have this fear that the red plane could never be fully realized on the ror2 foundation

[robust plume]

maybe? It is pretty groundbreaking lorewise that teleportation technology is the game´s main calling card and the imps can just.. do it biologically

[golden linden]

solus transporters also do it funny enough

[robust plume]

that´s alien technology it makes sense

[golden linden]

solus is alien?

[robust plume]

are they not an alien species of mechanical eyeballs

alien to petrichor at the very least

[golden linden]

I mean so are we and everything there but the golems

[robust plume]

huh. so that´s why sots was basically all about the golems

[golden linden]

but yeah solus as a faction is invasive like imps

but idk of solus is alien to humans or if it's human tech

humans in universe have some dope tech

but idk if anything confirms it

[silent bear]

reaalll

[haughty crag]

Hiiii

[golden linden]

sup

[upper wing]

yum

[harsh trout]

i mean ig it's never confirmed but it definitely seems more like an independent collective than a human creation

[robust plume]

I guess that would make them.. and alloyed collective

[vital depot]

i mean it could have went from one to the other

[robust plume]

say that again fantastic 4 movie gif

[spring rose]

what if instead of solus it was sogup and they were. all gups

[vital depot]

Origins just isn’t something that ror2 seems to like doing and i guess that’s whatever

[robust plume]

youre

[upper wing]

magnificent run

[coarse pagoda]

Idk if y'all know this

But in the acrid cult we have a lil smt called the black list

And the white list

The white list contains everyone that calls us a goodboy

And the black list is for huntress mains

[robust plume]

i hate to be that gal (i don´t) but

do you yourselves require to be called good boys or are the compliments supposed to be for acrid

i find the distinction to be pretty important

[woeful python]

What

[errant marsh]

Why are all of my godruns on this character

[spring rose]

was doing a gup run and it was gupping GREAT but i paused after teleporting to get a drink and i unpause and its broken. modded is awesome

[errant marsh]

Ultimate meal

[spring rose]

false son and true daughter when unobjective child walks in

[errant marsh]

Anyways I've started using step of the brothers again it's kinda peak

[fresh scarab]

the only thing we know about the Solus is that they’re from Solus X and they’re all incredibly sassy

[fresh scarab]

Step upwards into Club Slam my goat

also it’s REALLY good against tightly clumped enemies

as the 200% damage per enemy is an explosion

[terse ferry]

Evil explosion on hit

[iron palm]

I prefer meridians will just because I find it makes dealing with groups of flying enemies easier
That's literally it lol

[terse ferry]

There's some universe where step is even more fucked up and the explosions create copies of themselves on hit so clumped up groups are just guaranteed to die

[iron palm]

Just teleport on top of one and wham

[fresh scarab]

Meridian’s Will is growth bullshit and is otherwise just okay as an ability

Step feels much better

[robust plume]

"why do i always win on the best character in the game"

[iron palm]

Not for flying enemies it doesnt

200% damage is useless when the enemies are spread apart

[robust plume]

GAHAHAHAHA THAT´S THE BEST ONE SO FAR

[terse ferry]

Indeterminate enby

Oh wow indeterminate is a real word

[iron palm]

Whereas again with mw you can teleport on top of 1 and it just drags them all together

[robust plume]

subjective offspring

[iron palm]

Maths

[vital depot]

I use Meridian’s Will because it’s just cool as shit

[iron palm]

That too

[vital depot]

Dont care about the temporary stat benefits, i love that damn teleport with the lightning strike following it

[fresh scarab]

newer ROR2 players will never comprehend the horror of release False Son fight

[iron palm]

I can do the teleports behind you "nothing personal, kid" thing in game

[fresh scarab]

oh it was still in reply oh well

but yeah the laser during the fight used to come from the False Son himself

not the monument

mind you this did not stop anything else he was doing or could do

so he would fight as normal and simultaneously be lasering you

[robust plume]

i love that it´s named prime meridian. Prime Meridian is a saying that means the exact 0 point from which all measurement of the planet´s surface is done

the exact 0,0,0 coordinates

and that´s fucking badass

[fresh scarab]

it’s where Mithrix wanted to build monuments to him, his brother, and her

only one was constructed

[robust plume]

yeah. I love that he built his brother´s statue first. They disagreed on everything, but he really did love him.

[stone charm]

is that online desync bug fixed yet

[robust plume]

HOLY SHIT IS THAT A WALKING SOCK

[stone charm]

yeah bro whats up

[robust plume]

you aren´t real

[stone charm]

im real look

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/596472308504330241/1308513968175714446/IMG_8680.gif

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[fresh scarab]

this isn’t confirmed but I love this headcanon

[robust plume]

i mean where are the other statues right

[stone charm]

i mean theres no way he didnt love him

[robust plume]

assuming the other statues were never finished, providence´s has got to have been built first as a surprise gift. Just look at prime meridian´s log entry

[fresh scarab]

Mithrix offered to give the Designs to Providence

[robust plume]

we know that, i´m just saying it´s a very heartwarming gesture that shows off that affection in a tangible way

[stone charm]

oh yeah certainly. excellent example of show dont tell

even though the lore writes it out too LOL

[robust plume]

i mean it does yeah but nobody´s expected to read the logs before going to the stage

[stone charm]

truth nuke

[robust plume]

the log only serves to set it in stone

[fresh scarab]

even if Mithrix cannot understand his brother, he still loves him

it makes Providence’s betrayal so much more heartbreaking

they’re simply two beings who cannot coexist

[robust plume]

as necessary as it was for the betrayal to happen, it was still betrayal

mithrix was too dangerous if allowed the luxury of teleportation across planets now that he could create freely

but their bond was real and it shattered irreparably

i do wonder if anything would change had he been aware of providence´s death when it came to pass

if the grief would have stopped the growing resentment over the millenia

[fresh scarab]

he likely would’ve been struck with immense grief and then enraged

[robust plume]

yeah but definitely not at him

[fresh scarab]

waging war on those that killed his brother

[robust plume]

like good luck taking your anger out on the dead

i think a lot about one of his death quotes

"Brother.. maybe we´ll get it right.. next time."

Reincarnation? Is that a thing in this universe? Is it something cyclopses are explicitly capable of?

that would certainly explain why the dlc that invoked providence most strongly had the altar of rebirth

[upper wing]

cool

[fresh scarab]

no talks of reincarnation that I know of

[upper wing]

command makes this challenge so free

[placid quail]

If only that mode had more stuff

[gloomy lagoon]

The child is the most annoying enemy I’ve seen in my life, I just wanted to say that

[placid quail]

I hate children so much

the enemy in risk of rain is also annoying

[gloomy lagoon]

Just it does so much damage if absolutely no reason

How am I playing false son with more then 2000 health but I get done in by this by being hit once

[sacred elk]

wee

[placid quail]

SOTS is my absolute favorite DLC but I am happy to admit the enemy department is lacking

The survivors are all really really fun and I care more about survivors anyway

[robust plume]

imagine being someone who hates children in real life and playing risk of rain and having to hate children in the videogame too

[sacred elk]

cosmic ghost rider gaming

[upper wing]

2 mid ass reds back to back

[gloomy lagoon]

What red dot sight is sick

Straight double damage if you have 10 lenses

[fresh scarab]

how often are you getting 10

[gloomy lagoon]

Ah fair I usually play with command

[drowsy wasp]

you cannot convince me this is not inspired by the encrypted portal area (with the crafting station i forgot what its called)

[gloomy lagoon]

Where is that from?

[drowsy wasp]

genshin impact

[fresh scarab]

this sort of thing just happens

sometimes two things that seem like they correlate pop up around the same time and are entirely unrelated

also square terrain in a simulation-esque space isn’t exactly the newest concept

[upper wing]

yayyyyyyyy

[fresh scarab]

the married couple :)

maybe I should get the mod that makes REX self damage not count towards E8 curse

it would just be more fun that way

[upper wing]

this is just the mid red run ig

[drowsy wasp]

ok but the boss has an attack where he swipes across the screen with a white wall

[upper wing]

i dont think im supposed to be able to see that chain

[fresh scarab]

Hollywood also made two movies about the same concept at the same time that were totally unrelated

twice

that I know of

[errant marsh]

No I mean I get absurdly lucky

I NEVER get ultimate meal

Especially with a fucking atg printer

[tawdry hornet]

you of all people just now unlocking REX is like a genuine shock to my heart

[errant marsh]

And runic lens like

[upper wing]

im on a new save dw :)

[tawdry hornet]

oh thank god

200 volts injected directly into my bloodstream

[fresh scarab]

Runic Lens is so funny

it has an artificial cap that only one meteor can be spawned at a time

except it also has no limit on proc chains

you could theoretically have an infinite chain with it

truly one of the items ever

[upper wing]

there it is. my first death on this save

[errant marsh]

Bro died

[upper wing]

what a first item

[livid idol]

YOOOOOO THREE HEALTH FROM SUPERCHARGE

[errant marsh]

I wonder what survivor has the best default loadout

Probably viend his alt loadout sucks

[livid idol]

like compared to alt kit or just in general

[fresh idol]

i went to die town and everyone knew you

[errant marsh]

Both ig

[fresh idol]

Acrid

[errant marsh]

Why not have an answer for both

[errant marsh]

They really did give acrid straight ass for alts

[golden linden]

there are quite a bit of fiction stories of a self reproducing ai left in space that built itself an empire

the most that we have is they are from solus x

humans have colonies on other planets

and isn't farfetched to have colonies on other systems given the size of our space vessels

even if ftl is somewhat rare in world

[livid idol]

for the latter it's seeker because seeker is seeker, and for the former it's probably acrid? had to think about it for a bit but compared to blight and frenzied leap, default kit is much better (bite and neurotoxin are both good but neurotoxin is probably also better idk)

[sacred elk]

wee

[golden linden]

bite is awesome tho

[fresh scarab]

but is it Neurotoxin

[livid idol]

no, but it is bite

[fresh scarab]

this is true

[golden linden]

the recognizer

[sacred elk]

the realizer

i cant wait for the marvel tokoning

theres 4 events coming up where they could reasonably reveal new stuff

[livid idol]

I can't wait for tomorrow where uhhh ummm

[livid idol]

I go to work so I can get paid!

nothing else happens tomorrow mhm

[sacred elk]

Man if only some kind of event was happening tomorrow at 1pm

[livid idol]

the event is me going to work :)

[fresh scarab]

would be really cool if something did happen

[sacred elk]

im also going to work actually

[livid idol]

yoooo

[sacred elk]

the workening

[golden linden]

I just had an idea while in the throne

what if
captain, ok

[fresh scarab]

guys new DLC just dropped called Survivors of the Void

[golden linden]

what if captai n could

[sacred elk]

Spongebob big guy captain okay

[golden linden]

what if captain could use any of his 4 beacons

but still limiting 2 per stage

[sacred elk]

The real buff captain needs

[golden linden]

like pressing R would open a 4 section radial menu

and you could choose any of the 4 beacons

but still limited for 2 per stage

because it doesn't make sense that captain went down to the planet

and can only call 2 beacons he chose before going down

[fresh scarab]

that would be pretty cool I think

would lean a lot more into him being half utility and half firepower

[golden linden]

yeah

[wet marsh]

that'd be cool but wouldnt you still prefer double hacking like 99% of the time

[golden linden]

well that's on you right

[fresh scarab]

he has all the tools to support the run when it’s needed

[wet marsh]

i guess healing/shocking is good for mithrix?

[fresh scarab]

shocking is good for all the regular stages

you can just trap a bunch of enemies in it and either diablo them or just leave them there

and make the stage easier by slashing the amount of enemies that can spawn

[golden linden]

and actually bring situations where ressuply could be have more thought

[wet marsh]

recycler macro 🤤

[sacred hound]

Risk of pain 2...

[mental anchor]

let's play
railgunner

[upper wing]

aside from bands these items are really rough

[vapid dagger]

good run

[vapid dagger]

i think in this case its a timer issue

your looting speed seems to be a bit slow for the number of items you possess

[upper wing]

i am playing rather slow true

[vapid dagger]

when push comes to shove rely on those drones

[golden linden]

that looks perfectly good time to me

loot and time

[errant marsh]

Yeah that looks fine

[vapid dagger]

for the item count its not good at all

[errant marsh]

When taking into account the amount of drones there

[golden linden]

24 iitems and 10 drones

yeah that's turbo fine

[vapid dagger]

then maybe its the 3 scrapped greens and that bands are easily overestimated if it feels bad

[upper wing]

wow

[errant marsh]

BEST BUDDY

[golden linden]

what is the antonym for buddy

[upper wing]

if only i was commando

[errant marsh]

Enemy?

Nemesis?

Idk

[golden linden]

opposer

[wet marsh]

limon jumpscare

[golden linden]

worst opp lmao

[errant marsh]

You are commando

Fool

Just use your primary

Embrace shitty mando

[upper wing]

the run is saved

if only best buddy worked properly

id actually quite like it

[livid idol]

atg, three mochas, gas, wdym

[errant marsh]

Yeah I think best buddy needs another AI fix

[livid idol]

if i see those items on rg I smile because both bands and atg is nice

[errant marsh]

He's genuinely pretty strong when he actually attacks anything

[livid idol]

and gas is very nice

[golden linden]

aside from the trying to hit something in the air and locking out it's fine

[vapid dagger]

you see theres this thing called the timer that makes the game a lot rougher than you expect it to be even when you have good items

[golden linden]

the hitbox is the bigger problem

[livid idol]

I'm well aware ac

[errant marsh]

I've seen buddy not attack anything too many times

[livid idol]

even with the timer being at 25 minutes that's totally fine though

[golden linden]

me too

[errant marsh]

I've also seen him get stuck in the attack animation on the ground

[livid idol]

best buddy is a pacifist :)

[errant marsh]

Not moving at all

[vapid dagger]

the "sit and look cute" behavior is annoying and unhelpful

[errant marsh]

I've seen him slide off of enemies and not do damage

[livid idol]

if best buddy had good ai and a correctly aligned hitbox....

[vapid dagger]

the problem is apparently it has a skill that makes it just bounce up and down that it uses occasionally

[errant marsh]

Sometimes he even feels like he's avoiding me purposefully so I can't proc fireworks from him

[wet marsh]

i had best buddy putting in some work attacking gups and geep yesterday

its actually solid under the right conditions

[livid idol]

it sure does have a skill like that

[vapid dagger]

a thing they intentionally coded it to use even during combat

[wet marsh]

it just sucks at tracking things down

[upper wing]

oh yeah

[errant marsh]

Best buddy is genuinely one of my favorite items but man he's implemented poorly

[livid idol]

when I was messing around playing as orphaned core I found the hop nice for hitting enemies sometimes but the ai doesn't use it in a helpful way

[golden linden]

all is fine when you full loot

[upper wing]

sure

[vapid dagger]

he did already clear the tele at this point

[golden linden]

yeah

[mental anchor]

solid start

[vapid dagger]

i will be using this

[upper wing]

I GOT AN AEGIS

[livid idol]

yooooo nice shield

[uneven scarab]

What's a good void item name for a corrupted gasoline?

[errant marsh]

Diesel

[wet marsh]

what would corrupted gas even do

i dont want to lose my gas TwT

[uneven scarab]

I have a theory for what it could be. yet I already thought of a name

[golden linden]

a good name would be sea/sea creature related

and void adjacent

[wet marsh]

i wanna say fossil fuel but that sounds mad stupid

riiight

it does

[uneven scarab]

ok Dyno is broken for some odd reason

[upper wing]

THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT

[uneven scarab]

nice

[errant marsh]

GG

Literally 100% proc rate on supercharged shot

[mental anchor]

starting to understand what people mean by ac enemies having no weight or whatever it means to be spawned 20 billion times

[fresh scarab]

I forget the exact numbers let me see

[livid idol]

he has been all day i think

I remember I think it was earlier today we were trying to do !paul and it wouldnt work

[uneven scarab]

9% x 40

cryo is 4.5% x 20 (now I need to check)

[livid idol]

eight hours ago

so for at least eight hours

!paul

😔

[uneven scarab]

!Mithrix Sucks

dang that didn't work too?

[errant marsh]

Reload bonus applies to the charge shots too though right

[uneven scarab]

yeah but I do alt m2.

[tawdry hornet]

no !paul...

[errant marsh]

Ew

[fresh scarab]

yeah anyway the general idea is that AC enemies have weirdly low weights (or costs? I don’t remember which) for how much they do

most of them are weighted like common enemies

[errant marsh]

Also the weak point damage for supercharged shot probably would count if the chance wasn't already 100% lol

[livid idol]

me when solus distributors are 20 credits.....

[uneven scarab]

low costs mean more

[livid idol]

transporters are ten times the cost of distributors btw

[fresh scarab]

wouldn’t this be higher due to Overspill

[upper wing]

time to unlock el viendo

[mental anchor]

gl

[livid idol]

you don't wanna do wave 50 of simulacrum?

[errant marsh]

What do scorchers cost

[livid idol]

a weird number that i cant remember

[fresh scarab]

nevermind it would be lower

[errant marsh]

Please make scorchers slower bro 🥹

[upper wing]

he just whipped out the super laser

[mental anchor]

distributors are like
the ultimate gasoline check

[fresh scarab]

Scorchers are so funny

[livid idol]

scorchers cost 18 credits

[fresh scarab]

they’re not as dangerous as people think they are but they’re still INCREDIBLY annoying

[livid idol]

pests cost 15

[errant marsh]

They're the most annoying enemy ever

[livid idol]

wisps cost 10

[errant marsh]

They have too much health for how fast they are

[livid idol]

i feel like scorchers could have been 20 credits

[errant marsh]

And area denial

And they fly

[fresh scarab]

I wonder if procco affects Runic Lens chances before or after Overspill is accounted for

if it’s before that’s insanely broken

or well no I suppose it would be after

sorry I’m only half here

[errant marsh]

I'd imagine it calculates the chance then applies proc coefficient

[vapid dagger]

meh

[fresh scarab]

if it applied before, it would make low proc attacks disproportionately better with Runic Lens

if it applied after, it would make most attacks much better than you would think

[golden linden]

pretty good set

[fresh scarab]

and based on how often Rens goes off, I wanna say it’s this

[vapid dagger]

gasoline is doing everything

[uneven scarab]

kerosene

[fresh scarab]

also does it increase chance and damage in steps per 100% damage dealt or does it increase it linearly and it’s just a clean representation of what it’s doing

[uneven scarab]

chance in damage lol

[fresh scarab]

ok what I mean by this is

let’s assume I have an attack doing 50% damage

does that increase chance by 1.5% and damage by 75% or does it not

or does it only increase in increments of 100% damage dealt

[errant marsh]

Probably increments

[vapid dagger]

bands are doing next to nothing
its all crowbars

[vapid dagger]

after i believe

[fresh scarab]

I figured it did after as well

with how often it goes off

[uneven scarab]

once every new proc chain is my guess

[fresh scarab]

what I meant by that (part 2) was

[haughty dawn]

Anyone know if the new deeprock rouge like is fun

I see it's mixed on steam but a lot of those negative reviews seem like people who simply aren't rouge like players

I can see things like a run timer being annoying if you don't play many rouge likes but I'd since ror2 is my favorite game I'm wondering what people here think

[fresh scarab]

Runic Lens has a base 3% proc chance and adds 3% chance per 100% damage dealt
if I theoretically have an attack that does 500% damage, that would make the chance 18%

now let’s say that attack has a 2.0 proc, does that only multiply the initial 3% or the added chance as well

it’s likely the latter

they did artificially cap the proc chance at 50%

so strong enough attacks aren’t gonna proc a meteor every time

they’re just very likely to

[jolly heron]

oh wow

[errant marsh]

I forgot they capped it

[uneven scarab]

FAAAA

[errant marsh]

Boring

[fresh scarab]

the damage is also capped at 7500%

[errant marsh]

Boring

[uneven scarab]

somebody help me

[errant marsh]

Make runic lens more s tier please

[fresh scarab]

LET IT RIDE!

[vapid dagger]

i created god again

[errant marsh]

Is this cap bypassed by proc coefficient though

[fresh scarab]

good question, the easiest way to check this

does Supercharge proc Rens every time

[errant marsh]

Someone can probably just test it with commands

[fresh scarab]

if procco ignored the cap, Supercharge would proc it every time

guaranteed

[vapid dagger]

no the chance hard caps at 50% iirc

[steady vector]

Mornin

[upper wing]

thats so lame

[errant marsh]

Wiki says 75%

[vapid dagger]

although i do think bc of the 3.0 proc coef it does hit 100%

[fresh scarab]

there was a question about if procco bypassed the chance cap

and that was the method I gave to confirm or debunk that

if procco bypassed the chance cap, Supercharge would proc Runic Lens every time

[errant marsh]

Cryocharge hypothetically could as well

With reload bonus

[livid idol]

couldn't you just check by giving yourself 90 million billion purities

[errant marsh]

I'm not doing a full run for that

[uneven scarab]

I think I once actually got an unlucky void cell stage with eulogy making every enemy have 17 shaped glasses and another time with 17 stone fluxes

[livid idol]

do they even move with 17 stoneflux

[errant marsh]

18× enemy HP

0× speed

[uneven scarab]

I got the freaking scavs

with only 3 damage items

[fresh scarab]

oh damn they increased it

[ionic glacier]

i'm going back to rivals mane this rain is too risked

[fresh scarab]

out of all the SOTS reds I don’t think that was the one that needed a buff :)

[livid idol]

nono it needed it trust

[steady vector]

Do you think earth in the ror2 universe has good public transport worldwide yet

[errant marsh]

Do any sots reds need a buff

I mean like maybe warbonds?

[livid idol]

not risking it hard enough

[livid idol]

absolutely not 😭

[steady vector]

[fresh scarab]

War Bonds has swag though

[livid idol]

war bonds is very good

[fresh scarab]

it’s also ludicrously strong

[ionic glacier]

it's at like 4 risks rn

[wet marsh]

too tootoo tooooo!!

[ionic glacier]

im only at 2

[fresh scarab]

what it does is very niche, but it’s REALLY good at it

[wet marsh]

nuke

[livid idol]

and they already buffed it, giving it icbm synergy for god knows what reason

[wet marsh]

war bonds is funny

[ionic glacier]

war bonds is so nuts if u full clear every stage oml

[wet marsh]

i love the horn toot before it procs

[steady vector]

Did you end up obliterating on stage one?

[vapid dagger]

this is stupid

[steady vector]

I remeber you got the portal message for it

[ionic glacier]

i did not i died

😔

[steady vector]

GOD DAMN IT

[ionic glacier]

also mercenary is not for the weak

im so bad at him

[steady vector]

Hes not for console players that don't have max sensitivity

[raw silo]

Wrong. I am weak. I play mercenary. You are simply too strong.

[livid idol]

if you didnt have six gas i would said to go all in for the funny

[errant marsh]

I'm like relatively decent at merc but I still hate him

[wet marsh]

are you strong because you are mercenary or are you mercenary because you are strong

[livid idol]

honestly four ignition tanks is overkill you could anyway

[steady vector]

You have mantis blades that doesnt count

[raw silo]

yes

[errant marsh]

I can't play aggro merc lol I have to play like a bitch

[vapid dagger]

i got 8

[wet marsh]

merc is lowkey dash away from the fight simulator

[raw silo]

I'M SORRY MAN, I DON'T LIKE GORILLA ARMS

[livid idol]

screenshot at the time showed 6

OH you mean compulsion

[errant marsh]

Eviserate is cool if I scrap all my drones to use it

[livid idol]

not the gasoline

[ionic glacier]

this made me so sad i had dios n everything idk y i js died instantly

[ionic glacier]

possibly,,,, maybe im like the strongest

i wanted to get his skins mane

[errant marsh]

Throw of the century

[ionic glacier]

IDK WHAT HAPPENED

[errant marsh]

What were you doing mate

[ionic glacier]

literally

i js be goofing

[fresh scarab]

ICMB doubles War Bonds damage

it’s pretty overkill but War Bonds is already overkill anyways

so idrc, more swag for War Bonds

an interesting aspect is that it’s damage is based off the total boss health

meaning if you have a teleporter event with multiple bosses, it will treat all of them as one boss and do way more damage per enemy

also it’s damage scales with your damage items

because it wasn’t overkill enough

triple S tier item for prestige runs

[errant marsh]

Yeah ngl I dunno why I said warbonds

Every sots red is fair and balanced

[steady vector]

We need a character that plays a board game. Instead of seekers rhythm game, we need a pirate to drop bombs from the sky and the way you do it is by viewing the map youre on like you're playing battleship

[errant marsh]

Captain 2.0

[livid idol]

captain if he was awesome

[errant marsh]

Captain if he did anything other than run around and shoot his primary

[steady vector]

Playing as crazy Dave in garden warfare 1

[errant marsh]

Elite ball knowledge

[vapid dagger]

still felt worse than my rush runs

[uneven scarab]

Box of Dynamite and engi turrets pair well. especially with focus crystal

I nearly forgot

thank god the stunning makes it more effective with the bands for them

[worldly haven]

shit

[uneven scarab]

Burn them

[fresh scarab]

I think if you place the turrets near them and do a huge burst of damage with the rest of your kit, you should be fine as long as you take cover

assuming they don’t die immediately

you know… with the and 3

[fresh scarab]

ah

[worldly haven]

i killed it, but it pulled me to hell with it

[fresh scarab]

did you take a lot of overheat

[worldly haven]

yup

i did not know that was a thing

[fresh scarab]

bummer

[errant marsh]

Artifact of command L damn

[fresh scarab]

yeah you just gotta be out of line of sight of the sun

shady spots will appear to show you exactly where is safe

[worldly haven]

why are you slamming on command

[fresh scarab]

one of the cool aspects of ROR2 is when a build comes together through decisions you’ve made over the course of your run

Command nullifies that aspect of the game

it’s a bit sour for a lot of people

[worldly haven]

no it doesn't

it's not like you can just give yourself items with command, you have to find the loot to choose it, and then there's still the issue that you might not get the desired item rarity

[errant marsh]

I used to be the command player and man the game is so boring with it on

Its a free win every time

[fresh scarab]

your build is still being tailor made into being as perfect as you want it to be

[worldly haven]

not

[fresh scarab]

there is no strategy

[errant marsh]

Lol no it is

[worldly haven]

yes there is

[fresh scarab]

you make an overpowered build and you win

[worldly haven]

then i shouldn't have lost

[errant marsh]

I could play a command game rn and instakill everything by stage 3

[fresh scarab]

the strategy is “I get enough mobility so that I’m comfortable with never being hit and then I go all in on one of many damage builds”

[errant marsh]

It gets boring

[fresh scarab]

and you get to pick which one you get
with no risk of you not getting said build

[livid idol]

you basically can just create the perfect build with command, compared to a normal run where you just kinda take what you can get- maybe you'll find a good printer but you're still weighing your options unless your stuff is so bad that you're willing to go completely all in

but like, does it matter? if you have fun with command you have fun with command

all I'll really ever argue is that command loses a bit of the strategy and quick thinking the game asks of you

[worldly haven]

i just ask that people not slam on something i enjoy just because they can't find fun in it

[fresh scarab]

I agree with that

[errant marsh]

As long as you're having fun

[fresh scarab]

if you wanna go command and make a crazy build then go nuts

[errant marsh]

I wonder why ghors tome was picked with sacrifice on

[fresh scarab]

figuring out what items do?

[errant marsh]

Maybe maybe

[worldly haven]

i enjoy fighting and striving against a diverse range of attacks being thrown at me without having the issue of not having the items to fight back

[worldly haven]

i pick it bc i like the sound gold nuggets make in this game

:3

it's instant dopamine

[vapid dagger]

Command is entirely strategy
Theres little tactics tho

Tactics as in thinking on the fly

Adapting the plan to situations it wouldnt otherwise work in

Or shifting gears entirely

[worldly haven]

i actually have to think on the fly sometimes if i'm not finding the item rarities i'm looking for

[livid idol]

that's what I mean more than strategy

sorry, my brain is fried from work 😭

[vapid dagger]

Well a lot of people conflate the two even when their brain isnt fried

Not hard to see where the confusion comes from

I just like distinguishing it so its easier to communicate what we actually mean

[worldly haven]

btw i see a lot of people assuming i'm the kind of engineer who just runs around trying not to get hit while my turrets do the job, but i'm actually a very hostile engineer

[echo idol]

i cant with this fuckass interactable ❤️

[worldly haven]

i like the thrill of dispatching enemies myself

[echo idol]

mr gearbox can we make this thing charge like 2x faster

and i wouldnt mind it

[vapid dagger]

Another Engineer with no chill

[worldly haven]

i am an axton main on borderlands 2

[vapid dagger]

Hell yes

[worldly haven]

it comes with the territory

[errant marsh]

I feel like all engi players should use their primary but for some reason I see people running around doing nothing as him

[echo idol]

okay

going chrexpansion doll and antlers cs fuck that cro

❤️

[livid idol]

🔥

[vapid dagger]

Im the engineer whos beaten the elder lems on aqueduct in under 10 minutes

[worldly haven]

i wonder why, the primary is actually incredibly easy to aim

[errant marsh]

Odd phenomenon where people convince themselves that doing nothing is the right play on engi because he has a "bad primary"

[livid idol]

i don't get people who say engi m1 is bad

[vapid dagger]

I spam mines at least

[livid idol]

its just quirky

[worldly haven]

it's not even bad, people just have terrible aim

[vapid dagger]

Its a bit slow cumbersome and clunky

[errant marsh]

Spam mines use primary sometimes use harpoons

Harpoons feel like they're more for long range

[worldly haven]

you don't wanna aim straight with engi, you either hold down primary fire while aiming up or shoot in quick succession while facing the ground

[vapid dagger]

Its perfectly fine if you understand the plan tho

[worldly haven]

if an enemy is right in front of you, then you aim straight

[calm raptor]

people see "engineer can reliably do damage without constantly shooting" and interpret that as "play engineer like a dodging simulator"

[worldly haven]

i actually find myself doing more damage than my turrets a lot of the time

[calm raptor]

real

[vapid dagger]

If an enemy is in front of you then you hold m1 and rush them down
If an enemy is behind you then you drop a mine in front of you and continue forward anyway

[worldly haven]

btw, getting behemoth with engi is really fun, your explosions are more explosive and it's noticeable

[vapid dagger]

Oh yeah engineer gets up to 180% more damage from behemoth on m1

[echo idol]

Button olympics

[worldly haven]

explosive harpoons is fun too

[pulsar parrot]

👋

[vapid dagger]

Direct hits deal a bonus 120% bc the collision explodes as well as the explosion explodes

And you can bounce a mine at an enemy’s feet before a direct for another explosion

[worldly haven]

kamikaze is always fun

that being brilliant behemoth spider mines

[vapid dagger]

I prefer pressure mines

I like fucking with enemy ai and making them move how i want so the 900% really pays off quite often

[livid idol]

pressure mines are awesome

[worldly haven]

i'm too active in combat to place pressure mines strategically, but spider mines do the thinking for me

[vapid dagger]

I dance around an elder lem while a bunch of mines arm and then lead him to his death

[worldly haven]

i did not realize i was talking to a sadist

[vapid dagger]

Or i realize theres just enough time if i stand still so i drop a shield plop some mines down wait a sec and bail

Im good with traps

Its a good thing the enemies are really dumb and predictable and not real players or i might actually have a hard time playing this way

[worldly haven]

it seems our playstyles are way more different

i like going in on big enemies, blasting them with my primary, watching my health drop and jumping into my turret bungus halo

[vapid dagger]

Yeah I dont like taking much damage

[worldly haven]

engi is a self-made bulletsponge

[vapid dagger]

I used to be more like the engineer who just runs in a circle while my turrets do everything

Mostly bc there were way too many cases where i ended up dying pretty much instantly

[worldly haven]

i'm still experiencing that pretty often

but i only have 41.1 hours total in the game, i'll get better

[vapid dagger]

I started learning how to build defense well and fear death less now

[uneven scarab]

HOW IN THE WORLD DOES A VOID CRADLE NATURALLY SPAWN WHEN I HAVE SACRIFICE AND NO VOID SEED

[echo idol]

leave me alone

[vapid dagger]

That and my movement and awareness has refined to a point that its fairly easy for me to not get hit by things that actually matter

Ive done turretless too

[worldly haven]

i should do an engineer build where i have to take every item of an item rarity before i can take more

[vapid dagger]

Well the one thing I highly recommend for engineer is tougher times

[worldly haven]

i take it often

can't wait to get void items

i'm fortunate enough to have friends who i multiplayer with who have the dlcs so i can have a preview to the items, and i definitely like polylute and needletick

[vapid dagger]

Eh the one thats probably most useful for engineer is needletick

Shrimp has a special synergy with infusion on engineer tho

Every kill restores a tiny bit of shield for turrets with it

Which keeps the shrimp active longer than youd expect

[worldly haven]

i love going charged perforator with polylute

[vapid dagger]

Pluripotent larva also gives turrets an extra life like dios does but also allows turrets to use both uncorrupted and corrupted items

Bc of the corrupted revive

[worldly haven]

yea, i've tried that, it's not very consistent but fun when it happens

[vapid dagger]

Its neat at least

[worldly haven]

i kinda dislike it bc that means no bungus halo

[vapid dagger]

Oh right lysate cell gives engineer a 3rd turret

[worldly haven]

oh damn

OH DAMN

[vapid dagger]

No more than that tho

[worldly haven]

aw man

that's bullshit

[vapid dagger]

You can hold more but can only have 3 out

[worldly haven]

i'm gonna have to get r2modman after all

[vapid dagger]

Its fine bc 2 turrets is already pretty great
3 is already pushing absurdity

[worldly haven]

if i'm picking lysate cell and going through the trouble of picking fuel cells, i should be allowed more turrets

there's definitely a mod for that

[livid idol]

There is

[vapid dagger]

There is yes

Oh right every turret gets their own zoea summons dont they?

[worldly haven]

i instantly found it

there's 2, wonder which i should get

[coarse merlin]

Gang who is that
Am I cooked

[worldly haven]

yes

[vapid dagger]

Ally limits exist for a reason #ror2-discussion message

If this appeals to you go ahead tho

It was funny when it happened

[worldly haven]

i see no issue

my laptop would explode way before we get there

[uneven scarab]

is that the old strike drone sprite?

[vapid dagger]

Yes

Thats a really old early access version of the game

[worldly haven]

hame

hame is the finnish word for skirt

[remote pebble]

No. No not quite

[echo idol]

he can if he wants to be

[restive pawn]

Meow

[vapid dagger]

His name is chub

my chud son known as best buddy

[keen inlet]

Me and my beautiful chud son

[sonic tangle]

dev diary in 11 hours or something

[mental anchor]

I feel washed
this was the third attempt

in the second mithrix slapped my left buttcheek and air comboed into pizza and I fucking died instantly

[jagged zenith]

hi

[echo idol]

hes green because he can be placed there 💚

[quartz umbra]

2 more e6's till I have done em all

[golden linden]

fsn are you a enemy level knower

[jagged zenith]

hi

[golden linden]

sup

[jagged zenith]

:D

[quartz umbra]

hi

[echo idol]

i know many things

[quartz umbra]

acrid is so annoying yet amazing to play

[echo idol]

2 + 2 4

[quartz umbra]

idk why

[jagged zenith]

tack factory

[haughty crag]

nice crater

[golden linden]

do you happen to know if an enemy at level 20 at stage 3 would have the same stats if they were level 20 at stage 4, or even 5

[quartz umbra]

im pretty sure level is what increases the stats not stage itself, stage increases level I think

[echo idol]

not sure but i wouldnt assume so

[quartz umbra]

im not sure though

[golden linden]

stage increases the difficulty coef as I know

and that affects enemy level

[quartz umbra]

amazing

[quartz umbra]

yep

[sonic tangle]

p shre they would be the same but the later stages would have that enemy go past 20 faster

[golden linden]

but idr if the stage itself has an effect on enemy stats

[golden linden]

you mean the difficulty slider goes faster on later stages?

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[golden linden]

hmmmmm idk about that

I'll check tomorrow after the gym

[sonic tangle]

im 99% sure of this

[golden linden]

I wanna do a google sheet calculator for enemy scaling

[sonic tangle]

afaik if you want to know the precise level of an enemy at a given time you need the times when you enter a new stage for every stage that run

[sinful dust]

what a run

[sonic tangle]

not just the time of a run

[sinful dust]

i knew it was set when i got 18 items from stage 1

[sonic tangle]

or stage count

[golden linden]

so like, the enemy scaling would be different if I reach for exemple

[sonic tangle]

if you have an hour long run

spend 10 minutes on each stage

vs if you have an hour long run but you spend 40 minutes on stage 1 and blitz through the rest

[echo idol]

my humble take is that lurst doesnt even feel atrociously busted at the beginning of the run its how fucking busted the second you get one (one) extra stock

[sonic tangle]

the level you end up with would be different

[golden linden]

stage 5 at 45min
stage 1 was 20min
stage 2 was 30min
stage 3 was 40min
stage 4 was 42min

stage 5 at 45min
stage 1 was 10mim
stage 2 was 15min
stage 3 was 20min
stage 4 was 30min

[echo idol]

one infusion one mildly leveled prayer beads on pearl one lysate cell four steaks

[sonic tangle]

basically

[echo idol]

such a cheap and easy extra stock to get that spikes your power so much

[sonic tangle]

at least im p sure

[golden linden]

wouldn't you reach a point that enemy level would increase every some seconds or so

even with the cap being 99

[sonic tangle]

level scaling speed is only affected by stage count i think

so if you dillydally on stage 1 it wont even go that high

but each stage also multiplies the current level by some amount when you enter it

so smaller differences in level early on are magnified to an extent

with looping levels can go crazy fast too yeah

[golden linden]

huh

gilded coast increases the stage factor

didn't know that

[sonic tangle]

interesting

[golden linden]

the game is 15% harder after you do a single gilded coast

incredible

[tawny pilot]

i need to hit my enemies with the rubiconian handshake

[sonic tangle]

does scaling speed also increase

i assume it would

[tawny pilot]

lemme skewer a beetle

[golden linden]

i couldn't figure that out reading the wiki

I should have gone to sleep now

[sonic tangle]

i wonder if this applies to stuff like prime meridian

[golden linden]

if you figure it out ping me

I'll see more about it tomorrow

[sonic tangle]

the figurer

[wet marsh]

thing is, is gilded coast worth the 15% difficulty increase for aurelionite and 4 extra items

[sonic tangle]

lowkey no

[wet marsh]

i kinda just never knew it had a difficulty% increase because i dont pay attention to the stage count

most of my runs ive picked up aurelionite recently i guess i made it harder for myself?

seems like a gamble unless you have sale star or something but even then

[sonic tangle]

time doesnt pass in gilded coast still

[wet marsh]

yeah but the stage count does

[sonic tangle]

im too lazy to do any sort of experimentation myself

[wet marsh]

so real

[sinful dust]

solus heart and voidling

[steady vector]

Why is panel de pon ds so fucking hard

Wait wrong channel my bad

[haughty crag]

Son

[sonic tangle]

i wanna see all the son images but with false son instead

[cedar coral]

wdym

[cedar coral]

gilded coast increases difficulty?

[cedar coral]

how were you holding 3 equipment

[cedar coral]

false SON 😭😭😭

[haughty crag]

functional coupler

hold 1 extra equipment (+1 per stack)

[cedar coral]

oh ik but you only had one of them

meaning you should only be able to hold 2 equipment right

[haughty crag]

i rebirthed

sacrificed one of them

[cedar coral]

ohh

[haughty crag]

Son...

[sonic tangle]

sonion

[vital escarp]

soncrates

[sonic tangle]

faulty sonductor

[sinful dust]

ive done false son route like twice ever :d

[cedar coral]

also W ending screen lol

[pure axle]

false...

[cedar coral]

those who divine the deep

true

[mental anchor]

might be concocting the worst heresplitatom challenge yet

[round sandal]

Those who meow

Meow

[austere prism]

sticky bomb stacking being your only hope ❤️

[cedar coral]

factual

[fallow sedge]

isnt it crazy that you could just pick seeker and do an itemless run and win

[mental anchor]

just learned that the item blacklist mod makes me type
every single item manually

[fallow sedge]

theres one which lets you disable them in the artifacts menu

[livid idol]

What the fuck is the line for banned and not banned

I do not comprehend

[pure axle]

the allowed ones arent banned

[sage python]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Thrayonlosa/ItemBlacklist/

[mental anchor]

I'm doing rough guessing to figure out how to make a run with variety but all the items I get are kinda ass or something like that

[sage python]

kinda ass but you include sticky

lol

[mental anchor]

I can remove sticky

[sage python]

i mean i guess you need damage for variety

[sonic tangle]

sticky bomb is super good

[sage python]

there arent really bad white damage items except ap rounds

[mental anchor]

I like ap rounds
maybe it's just the trauma from playing honor but I like killing the boss faster

would rose buckler be worth banning

[sonic tangle]

rose buckler is a good item

ap rounds is a good item

[pure axle]

i guess crowbar if youre like commando maybe

[mental anchor]

lookin great

[sage python]

i was gonna say it until i remembered i mostly play commando lol

[sage python]

deathmark is gonna be so useless

lmao

[sonic tangle]

why is rusted key in bad other than it can only give you bad items now

[mental anchor]

just that

[sonic tangle]

also unstable transmitter is a good item

[mental anchor]

I didn't even see transmitter ngl

[sonic tangle]

enable encrusted key too then

[mental anchor]

this will be a truly skillful risk of rain 2 run
I can no longer rely on luck

which means I also need to play commando

[sage python]

not even chrono

what equips you got?

[mental anchor]

still gotta work on those

[sonic tangle]

enable sonorous whispers sale star and chance doll as well then

[sage python]

currently wake of vultures, hooks of heresy and essence of heresy would allow you to use deathmark, thats funny

[sonic tangle]

and shorm

[sage python]

and i guess grandparent overheat

[mental anchor]

uhhhh

[pure axle]

why is corpsebloom and rejuv rack there

[sonic tangle]

woodsprite is really good

crunder is really good

[sage python]

as is the backup

[mental anchor]

I've heard mixed opinions on woodsprite

[sonic tangle]

fmp is good but ig you dont have the items that make it good

[pure axle]

backups good now

[sage python]

woodsprite is really damn good

[pure axle]

bad thing good now

[sonic tangle]

its the best healing equip and also the best user of war horn

[mental anchor]

if you say so...

[sage python]

you could re-enable ignition tank :)

[pure axle]

the only on kill item he has is pauldron

and harpoon

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[pure axle]

so fmp is just opus

[mental anchor]

I should be really elitist and say that you're not actually good at ror2 unless you can beat this type of run every time

[sonic tangle]

on e8

[mental anchor]

yeah

because I'm a fucking baby I'm gonna try rainstorm first

[livid idol]

You aren't good at the game unless you can beat honor itemless with swarms and evolution on, on eclipse 8

[mild cloak]

winter isn't

winter isn't coming

[sonic tangle]

i am

[mild cloak]

winter was like 5 months ago

I AM!!!

[pure axle]

remove irradient pearl

[sonic tangle]

btw i beat my first is

[mild cloak]

which version

[sonic tangle]

shits more roguelite than i thought

[mental anchor]

first what

[sonic tangle]

getting permanent shit helped a lot

[mild cloak]

integrated strategy

[sonic tangle]

uhhhh sff

[mental anchor]

gonna have to get used to this

[sonic tangle]

idk which number that is

[mild cloak]

sff is

[mental anchor]

idk what that is

[mild cloak]

sarkaz furnaceside fables?

[sonic tangle]

yues

[mild cloak]

that's fair

easiest is pretty sure

most boring one too

[sonic tangle]

i also want that mudrock skin

[sonic tangle]

ok so a good starting point yay

[mild cloak]

I'd say the best starting point is IS2

[sonic tangle]

oh and uh what rewards do you even get once you fully finish the rewards

[mild cloak]

uhhhh

in total you'll have...

[sonic tangle]

do i just play for fun once im done with those

[mild cloak]

1.5 mil LMD, 600 gold xp tickets, a bunch of evo materials, a bunch of skill summaries, like 2 or 3 skins, a new operator, a free specialization 3 ticket, furniture, home screen UI, a ton of module materials, home screen background

that's what you get if you clear everything

in one IS version

[sonic tangle]

ok cool

[mild cloak]

excluding monthly squads

[sonic tangle]

so at some point il run out of motivators

[mild cloak]

not really

[sonic tangle]

and il just have to play for fun

[mild cloak]

unless you grind the hell out of all the IS modes

you have at least a year or two of content

[mild cloak]

and this is if we assume IS7 (which is releasing in 6 months) is the last one (it's not)

[mental anchor]

do I go do the halc shrine
it won't give me much better stuff

[sonic tangle]

honestly your best bet might just be rushing

[mild cloak]

greed

[steady vector]

Huh

[mild cloak]

there's so much stuff 💔

also you get rewarded for deep explorations and getting different endings too

so you have to work even more

[sage python]

these arent necessarily items i think are all bad, but here is what i would pick

[mental anchor]

quail???

[sage python]

i dont think quail is bad but i wanted some movement

[mental anchor]

oh

[wet marsh]

fireworks caffeinator going hard with this one

[sage python]

and in a smaller lootpool its not as great because stacking it is kinda funky

[sonic tangle]

what caffeinator

[wet marsh]

wait what

what are the rules

[steady vector]

This is so stupid lmao

I got it immediately

[mental anchor]

I found a defense nucleus printer
run is saved

[steady vector]

Wait... maybe I didn't. I assume it was just ranking stuff based off of... well you know

[wet marsh]

-# no i dont

[pure axle]

reso disc?

[sage python]

its also why backup mag is there

[steady vector]

The tiers. Look at the colors

[pure axle]

alien head?

[sage python]

its a mix of my opinions and ones i see people say are bad

i like both of those reds personally

[steady vector]

||Its just the rarity.||

[wet marsh]

they are sorted by rarity yes

[sage python]

i dont understand alien head hate

[sonic tangle]

alien head and resonance disc are good

[steady vector]

I thought it was a teir list... but now idk what this is

[pure axle]

who hates alien head

[mild cloak]

resonance disc glaze

[wet marsh]

i'd rather have alien head than like half the red catalogue

[steady vector]

Omg this spine thing is getting annoying

[wet marsh]

genuinely who hates alien head of all things

[sonic tangle]

alien head just has kinda low numbers and has a hard to notice effect

[steady vector]

Idk what it does

[mild cloak]

this is because half the red catalogue SUCKS

[sonic tangle]

resonance disc is great when it lands

sometimes it hits a lemurian instead

[pure axle]

oh man fuck i can use my abilities that hurt things or get me out of danger more!! this item stinks!!!!

[wet marsh]

[sonic tangle]

i would still buff the numbers of alien head

[mental anchor]

holy shit

[mild cloak]

[pure axle]

rejuv rack isnt bad

[wet marsh]

i guess the hate stems from like, "oh my GOD i couldve had a 57 leaf/networked suffering instead of this bs like alien head!"

[mental anchor]

run is

[wet marsh]

but not every run has a 57 leaf

so youre complaining for basically no benefit

a red's a red, worst case scenario its red scrap on commencement

[mild cloak]

3 hours and 15 minutes until peak drops

[sonic tangle]

yeah plenty of reds are 'fine' but there are also a bunch of run winning reds so its necessarily a bit disappointing

[wet marsh]

no? its like 7 hours 15

[mild cloak]

no ??

[wet marsh]

wait idk actually

how much till 8 pm

[mild cloak]

8 PM????

[sage python]

i think guillotine is under appreciated

[wet marsh]

for me yeah

[mild cloak]

I'm talking about 2pm...

[wet marsh]

but the announcement isnt at 2pm

[sage python]

especially since now we have a bullet sponge elite type

[wet marsh]

its at 8...

[mild cloak]

who carres about announcement

[wet marsh]

is it not

[fallow sedge]

till WHAT drops bro

[mild cloak]

peak

[sonic tangle]

nasti is in like 7 hours bro

[fallow sedge]

what are you reffering to

[sonic tangle]

hot woman

[mild cloak]

different servers

[pearl summit]

For a red it is

[wet marsh]

buh

[mild cloak]

mine drops in 3 hours and 15 mins