ror2-discussion

[errant marsh]

Any time used grabbing items is well worth it usually

[somber void]

yeah i was just watching "why ur runs suck" and js was curious abt the whole time thing

[candid valve]

Time used getting bungus

[worldly haven]

you only really need to go fast for time specific achievements

after that it's all about preference

[cedar coral]

did someone say risk?

[worldly haven]

my average time is 10 minutes

[somber void]

yeah for now im just trying to beat the game with anyone, achievements js randomly pop up

[halcyon creek]

of course when i have a trophy hunters the tp boss is horde of many

[onyx grove]

i like taking my sweet ass time

[worldly haven]

relatively newer people should not speedrun the game unless they really get a good start

[quick plume]

I only liked being patient when i realized Artifact existed

[vital depot]

Plenty of people average around like 10-12 minutes on stage 1 with all of their experience in the game

[somber void]

i try to loot the entire map get as much speed related items and then pray i will do dmg, it most of the time does not work out

[worldly haven]

10 minutes or so is a good time where your difficulty isn't going too far but you're gaining a good amount of items and drones

i'm doing artifact runs now but i still only have 38.6 hours, with my artifact choices finding loot isn't an issue

[vital depot]

If you’re not running certain DLCs then that time may decrease but with the DLCs it’s still pretty fine to be on stage 1 for a bit, as long as the minutes on the timer doesn’t stay higher than your item count then you’re doing it good

[worldly haven]

command, swarms and sacrifice

[halcyon creek]

if only i was looping

[worldly haven]

i need to get soul too

[somber void]

currently im dlcless

[weak hound]

if you're wondering about time then just watch this. get all the items, don't rush yourself

https://youtu.be/aJWfwbG93Z8?si=K40pMmGLhzZgWD6q&t=1970

[errant marsh]

Unlocks cheese

[onyx grove]

please speed i need this, my game is kinda dlcless

[quick plume]

As long as you know the teleporters location, you can look around as much as you want

[vital depot]

Then you probably wont be taking as long as us with the DLCs, Halcyon Shrine from SoTS adds a fair amount of time to stage 1s

[somber void]

yeah that aint difficult cuz of the orbs around it

[worldly haven]

if it doesn't disable achievements, it's a legit strategy

[somber void]

no clue what that is, when ill get some money ill buy the sotv dlc then idk

[onyx grove]

false son is so tuff

[halcyon creek]

average run

a little too weak for my liking

[blissful torrent]

guys i got aegis and n'kuhana value

[quick plume]

Honestly shouldve just reset the entire run

[halcyon creek]

you can do it lynx shaman

[terse ferry]

3 void reavers vs creature that can move

[blissful torrent]

it'll be a close one!!

[halcyon creek]

not gonna lie i loved this artifact

[blissful torrent]

also today i learned afterburner lets rex pillar skip

[errant marsh]

Yeah

He can also skip with safer spaces

[blissful torrent]

how does that work?

[round sandal]

Explains how it works

[blissful torrent]

ty meower!

that was very helpful

[round sandal]

Ofc

[terse ferry]

safer spaces doesn't affect your motion at all so your ability to pillar skip with it is unhindered

[errant marsh]

Jank with falling in a specific spot to gain upwards momentum

[round sandal]

[terse ferry]

hi grey!

[blissful torrent]

ty guys but the meower explained it already

[errant marsh]

Yeah

[sly copper]

runic lens,,,,,,

[halcyon creek]

@round sandal acrid rate the totally normal huntress run

[sly copper]

[round sandal]

I think you did very awesome and I’m proud

[halcyon creek]

thank u

whats this skin

[terse ferry]

kill shart
then kill him while he's down

[halcyon creek]

yeah yeah ik

[wet marsh]

please just end me

[halcyon creek]

i wanna know what it looks like

[sly copper]

Thats my favorite acrid skin

[wet marsh]

you know its bad when its only 1 row of items for 6 whole stages TwT

[sly copper]

Its on the wiki i can link it if u want

[round sandal]

You’re my favorite

[sly copper]

oh gosh

[sly copper]

awawaw

[halcyon creek]

jesus

relying fully on the crit

[wet marsh]

i almost got one tapped by an elite lunar chimera

[terse ferry]

freakcrid

[wet marsh]

and my pure mechanical skill

[halcyon creek]

ohhhh that oneeee

[wet marsh]

this was PAINFUL

[halcyon creek]

im gonna get that one actually

acrid run time

[sly copper]

hugs yoy,,

[wet marsh]

DLC CHARACTER DETECTED! time to give them horrible item pools...

[sinful junco]

excuse me sir

[wet marsh]

🤖

[terse ferry]

the naming difference between my r&s clips and my ror2 clips is really funny

[hollow peak]

the flame drones hitting him while hes down is the cherry on top

[round sandal]

I have concepts of aiming, but I’m not a well designed boss yet

[sly copper]

rabbit and steel enjoyer i saw it from my gf it looks fun and silly

[terse ferry]

perhaps your concepts are hallowed....

[terse ferry]

it IS fun and silly i love it

[hollow peak]

ive never heard of any of these games, why the heck they so expensive

[sly copper]

Hehe

[late ruin]

Eclipse 8

[hollow peak]

eclipse 8 9

[round sandal]

Yeah who the fuck even made deadbolt

[late ruin]

Ally starting health? -50%

[hollow peak]

where th eheck even are you? gamestop?

[terse ferry]

are gamestops real

[wet marsh]

btw i calced the items total and excluding the broken watch, regen scrap and boots its a total of 35 items

i dont think ive lowrolled this badly on looting ever

[errant marsh]

Skill issue

[quick plume]

Risk & Sane

[wet marsh]

yeah but i still won teehee >ω<

clearly not a skill issue then

[terse ferry]

risk & sane vs rabbit of real 2

[errant marsh]

I'd win twice as fast

[sly copper]

oh lord thats sad yeah

[terse ferry]

if mithrix was in ror2 what do you think he would do

[hollow otter]

https://tenor.com/view/well-well-well-well-gif-10269274091263267235

[terse ferry]

well named well:

[wet marsh]

make me a pizza

i bet he makes the meanest pizzas

[terse ferry]

i dont know how to do that

[wet marsh]

nooo im talking about mithrix

he'd do it

[errant marsh]

Beat people up with a hammer

[tawdry hornet]

"mithrix what are you doing you're destroying the restaurant!!"
"I'M TRYING TO GET THE MEANEST PIZZA CUT EVER FUCK OFF MORTAL"

[halcyon creek]

[gentle copper]

meow

[halcyon creek]

mehhh nevermind ill save this acrid run for later

im tired

[gentle copper]

mrroww

[halcyon creek]

meowww

[gentle copper]

:D

[stark pawn]

Can anyone tell me how armor works? Because I have 22 kinetic dampeners and I don’t know what it’s doing

I know it gives shield and explodes when destroyed

[halcyon creek]

someone animate mithrix spinning pizza dough on his finger

[errant marsh]

Mithrix kills 1 million people while trying to make a deep dish pizza

[pure axle]

why is the infection spreading

[zealous grail]

I just arrived in Conduit Canyon for the first time

I think I have a new favourite song in the OST

[zealous grail]

Armor is a percentage based damage mitigation

[old python]

Meet his brother.

[zealous grail]

Higher armor has diminishing returns

[errant marsh]

You're gonna have a new most feared stage

[wet marsh]

you just take less damage

[zealous grail]

The run is over, actually

[halcyon creek]

should i ultra mod rorr

[zealous grail]

I was killed by the vulture boss

[wet marsh]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Armor

ik im just linking the wiki but if youre interested in the math

[zealous grail]

Does that guy have multiple health bars like the rest of the final bosses?

[wet marsh]

its all in there

[old python]

Mmm Lazer.

[vital depot]

Alloy Hunter isn’t a final boss

[halcyon creek]

"We'll Rain Together"?

[zealous grail]

Well, final boss like mergo's wet nurse in the Yharnam Sunrise ending

[zealous grail]

Yes

[halcyon creek]

fair

[zealous grail]

I'm having trouble learning operator

[halcyon creek]

personal fav would be sulfur pools

or wait

[zealous grail]

For the most part, I just hit enemies with my R, then hold m1 and m2

[halcyon creek]

no nevermind

[frigid sleet]

what a fucking guy

also forgot to screenshot but operator e2 done

[zealous grail]

Seemed to be killing the Alloy Hunter pretty slowly

[frigid sleet]

alloy hunter is pretty tanky i think

[halcyon creek]

pretty?

[halcyon creek]

treeborn colony i meant

om mani padme hum part 2 is peak

[zealous grail]

Have you noticed that if you look down in Prime Meridian, you can see Treeborn Colony below?

[halcyon creek]

its also possible to see the prime meridian if you look up

[zealous grail]

I'm assuming the giant feet in the first storm area are the feet of the Providence statue

[halcyon creek]

god stavros did such a good job with the ac soundtracks

[frigid sleet]

yes like you

[frigid sleet]

REAL

[halcyon creek]

[frigid sleet]

definitely can stand next to chris' stuff

[halcyon creek]

https://youtu.be/He2cfq50kXE LOVE this one

heav'n flies before the machine soul

[frigid sleet]

lowkey i always thought it was heav'n files
like heaving files (around)

made sense cos it was like data or something

[zealous grail]

Fool

[frigid sleet]

true

[halcyon creek]

genuinely my second favorite soundtrack album

only behind SOTS for me

[frigid sleet]

i genuinely cant decide which one is my favourite theyre all so good

[halcyon creek]

i can

[stark pawn]

Thanks

[halcyon creek]

seekers of the storm is my favorite

[frigid sleet]

i deadass put the entire ost on everytime i go on a flight (fairly often)

[halcyon creek]

listened to the whole album on spotify like 5 times in a day once

i absolutely love what stavros is doing for the soundtrack

he captured the essence of ror2 so perfectly

[frigid sleet]

yup yup

why did he do that

[sturdy knot]

Guys im playing eclipse on captain and refused solus heart offer but didnt get skin. Why?

[halcyon creek]

dont forget that stavros also helped with seekers of the storm

[errant marsh]

Captain is accept

Hope this helps

[sturdy knot]

ah

[tawdry hornet]

rotoscope

[blissful torrent]

for future reference (or for anyone else who needs them)

reject:
commando
huntress
mul-t
engineer
mercenary
acrid

accept:
bandit
artificer
rex
loader
captain

[worldly haven]

ngl

i'm surprised merc isn't an accept and captain isn't a reject

[sly copper]

I think merc makes sense but cap doesnt

[atomic venture]

i wish all of them were accept and reject

but the possibility of me going 26 times to fight 2 bosses for new skins is crazy
no thank you

[molten hound]

swing is easy as shit

[lone wraith]

i do wish there was a reason to go fight the other bosses other than novelty and the skins

[sage python]

like what

[molten hound]

well with swing you can go to chef

[atomic venture]

i am not saying swing and shart are hard. its just the possibility of going to fight 2 bosses with on 2 times per character is ehhhhh 😭

[lone wraith]

i dunno that seems like something the game designers should think about tho

[sage python]

different question then, what is the problem?

[lone wraith]

that they havent?

[sage python]

havent what

[gentle copper]

woof

[atomic venture]

what if some bosses in game could spawn with their own custom made arenas and you should fight them

[lone wraith]

"i dunno that seems like something the game designers should think about tho"

[atomic venture]

OR make that you cant live teleporter radius

[sage python]

think about what though ??

[gentle copper]

playing the game is fun

that's your reason

[sage python]

sorry idk if im just not understanding

[gentle copper]

boom solved

[lone wraith]

"i do wish there was a reason to go fight the other bosses other than novelty and the skins"

[worldly haven]

commitment issue

[lone wraith]

well at least solus wing has the crafting i'll give it that

[atomic venture]

🫃

[lone wraith]

but point stands for false son i think

[sage python]

they also give you loot

the whole game is for novelty though

[worldly haven]

i wish i had nitro rn, i have the perfect emote

[gentle copper]

false son gives you access to pools early a whole handful of green+ items and a good-ish item for beating him

basically a guaranteed red if you bring aurelionite

[atomic venture]

everything gives loot in this game
The only argument for alternate paths is diversity is good. Though they also need the reason to attract players

[lone wraith]

like the guaranteed red you missed out on by going to false son? 😭

[vapid dagger]

Honestly pools are almost never a good trade

[atomic venture]

The only reason people go Solus path is bcs of wandering chef and possibility of combining items

[sage python]

false son gives you a fragment, ≈ 4 large chests and a red

time doesnt progress there either

[gentle copper]

i forget this is ror2 discussion

[atomic venture]

medium reward and high risk fight with false son

[sage python]

what do you miss out on

[lone wraith]

listen man all im saying is that putting in more incentive to engage with the out-of-your-way dlc paths would be good

[ionic glacier]

stage 4 chest

[atomic venture]

a lot of people still dont fight false son because how "broken" he is

[sage python]

you go to stage 4 after false son

[lone wraith]

solus wing did the crafting thing right

[vapid dagger]

I dont fight him bc i dont have fun fighting him

[ionic glacier]

he's like

hard

[gentle copper]

i knew i wasnt crazy man

[vapid dagger]

I dont find it fun to play looney toons chases around pillars

[sage python]

i just think the novelty isnt high enough

as to mean fun factor

but other people like false son idk

[ionic glacier]

he has the best ost out of all the bosses tho imo

[worldly haven]

false son is so easy, the first time i fought him i unlocked the spider mines

[vapid dagger]

I beat false son on my first attempt

[atomic venture]

if you want to get guaranteed red/yellow you also need to bring aure with you which makes boss fight harded
In this case colossus path (Prime Meridian specifically) is medium reward and high risk stage, you miss out on 4th stage guaranteed red which will require less time and will be less painful of a task

[sage python]

well thats engi lol

[lone wraith]

the first phase was tricky to figure out for me. kept dying to the dash

[sage python]

you dont miss out on anything

[gentle copper]

outside of phase 1 false son is extremely manageable

[sage python]

prime meridian doesnt count as a stage

you go to stage 4 upon completion

[atomic venture]

oh..i forgor
My bad

[vapid dagger]

I do mostly agree with this
I still dont think its a particularly fun design

[lone wraith]

i will admit i didnt remember that was the case because it's been so fucking long since i went there

actually im probably biased against false son even more because i play eclipse and he doesnt count as a win for some dumb reason

[sage python]

i just dont like fighting false son and i think the power boost afterwards makes me outscale enemies too fast afterwards

[vapid dagger]

Nothing counts as a win for eclipse

[lone wraith]

wow 🤯 really

[vapid dagger]

If you win in eclipse it doesn’t actually count as a win in the logbook
Even if you fight mithrix and escape

[atomic venture]

still the points stands for the more....casual players false son boss fight is hard and people just dont want to fight him at all
4 big chests with potential red/yellow item

[lone wraith]

yes thats truly exactly what i meant

[gentle copper]

i enjoy the false son fight i will defend him until the day i draw my final breath

[sharp skiff]

I think I got Han-D's head once on drifter's normal secondary

Oh my god I hate how it actually helped my ass

[lone wraith]

also im pretty sure thats false because i have a pretty green run history

unless im misunderstanding you?

[sage python]

i dont think the reward is the issue

[vapid dagger]

The run history is recorded but the “wins” stat doesn’t tick up

[atomic venture]

skill issue is the issue

[lone wraith]

it's out of your way, a repetetive slog of boring stages and the boss isnt amazing either

like it compounds for me

after doing the false son grind for skins i just hate those stages

like who in their right mind thought it was going to be fun to make it the same stages every single time and then incentivise grinding it out for the skins

its like you want the repetetiveness to be a glowing neon sign

[vapid dagger]

Thats an issue with the entire design they have put in for the dlc that i have been saying for years now

[atomic venture]

arent all roguelikes are the same?

[lone wraith]

absolutely not

[wet marsh]

said absolutely no one ever

[sage python]

personally i just find false son's execution to be bad, and mid-run bosses dont particularly interest me either

its like void fields

[wet marsh]

multiple genres of roguelike exist and no theyre not all the same

[atomic venture]

wow i am first

[lone wraith]

even the base mithrix path has a great variety of levels. but the dlcs paths are all just the same thing every time. perfectly choreographed like a fucking stageplay. it gets very old very fast for me

[wet marsh]

just because theres luck involved doesnt make every single one a 1-1 copy

[worldly haven]

the easiest boss comes with artifact of kin, can you guess what it is

[sage python]

the reward is high, it can be completed fairly reliably, but it takes me out of the gameplay loop so i dont engage

[vapid dagger]

The variety of stages not changing between runs really reduces how engaging the game feels long term

[lone wraith]

wanna fight solus wing? do this exact series of events every time with no change, ever. have fun in the roguelike game thats supposed to have variety. also do it like 15 times for the skins btw

[sage python]

tbf thats the equivalent of commencement

[lone wraith]

like it wouldnt be as much of an issue but they clearly encourage grinding it out many many times which does make it a glaring issue to me

[vapid dagger]

At least with solus wing i can skip conduit canyon with sirens or crater

[lone wraith]

but lets be honest everyone hates commencement to so i think its fair to criticise lol

[atomic venture]

i wonder why they made post-loop stages only loop exclusive
it would be cool to idk, randomly start your stage on looped version of shattered abodes

[sage python]

yeah thats fair ig

[lone wraith]

it's no coincidence that everyone wants to pillarskip. it's just not fun to do the same repetetive shit

[sage python]

its my fav boss entrance

[lone wraith]

but they keep putting repetetive shit in the game

[sharp skiff]

I like commencement 😐

[sage python]

i think ac path did pretty well not being much of a path

[livid idol]

I like meridian kinda

[wet marsh]

i like commencement cuz i can pillarskip :3c

plus soups

[vapid dagger]

Its definitely alright and better than meridian imo

[livid idol]

Lightning lasting like seven minutes is rough

[sharp skiff]

I like the pillar of mass and blood

[lone wraith]

it still has the repetetiveness issue for me tho because it's always collect keys, fight the specific boss, fight the spiecifc boss, fight the 3rd specific boss.

[livid idol]

Also why does it have chests

[lone wraith]

like it's 3 scripted boss encounters in a row its kinda crazy

1 is optional tho tbf

[vapid dagger]

The lock positions dont even change

[sage python]

first stage is like the contact light in ror1, second stage is literally just the boss and some optional stuff afterwards, then you go to a newt equivalent and can optionally fight heart

[livid idol]

Besides that i think prime meridian is good

[vapid dagger]

At least with commencement the pillars are random

[sage python]

i do wish that conduit had variants

it would have been such an easy addition as much of the stage is props, not terrain

[livid idol]

Pillars are also less interesting though because you're just waiting, besides soul you have to play the game with that pillar

[sage python]

couldve been modular too with how the stage is set out

[atomic venture]

add weather to stages

[livid idol]

Id rather fight discount collective elites than do mass ever

[lone wraith]

it's perfectly good content for the first, 2nd even 3rd time around but thats not good enough for a roguelike in my opinion

[wet marsh]

soul almost always gets me killed

i usually opt for design and mass if i can

[lone wraith]

especially since i think they should be very careful with the shit they add if they keep up their track record of never changing or tweaking it later down the lane

[wet marsh]

pre-e8 i do blood tho

[sage python]

ive found enjoyment just skipping the loot after wing and not doing heart

[vapid dagger]

The event with alloy hunter swooping in and nuking the solus control unit loses its charm almost immediately

[livid idol]

I mean, shouldn't the final stage be difficult?

[wet marsh]

well yeah but no reason for soul to be this fucking annoying

[sage python]

oh this would be so good now that i think about it

[wet marsh]

which is why i do the considerably less annoying ones

[livid idol]

Soul should uncharge slower by a bit but i think it presents a good idea

[vapid dagger]

Soul almost always saves me time

[atomic venture]

soul is the one making pushing waves right?

[wet marsh]

thats design

[vapid dagger]

No that’s design

[lone wraith]

i do think they optimised the whole path just for t he first time experience

[sage python]

blood and soul are pretty fast

blood especially

[livid idol]

It's risk vs reward, and the reward is a fair bit of time

[lone wraith]

which would be fine but they obviously added like 12 achievements for doing it on each survivor. so thats not really an excuse you can use for it lmao

[sage python]

im probably slightly biased towards conduit cause i like the enemy pool for the most part, and i love fighting collective elites, but i think it does a pretty good job and tbf im not sure id call it much of a path

[livid idol]

Blood is like just not dangerous almost ever

[vapid dagger]

1 run and done isnt how i roll and i prefer to adapt to an ever changing environment

[wet marsh]

doesnt it perma hurt you on e8 tho

[lone wraith]

i think you speak for literally everyone lol

[wet marsh]

or can you go in and out to mitigate the %

[lone wraith]

you dont buy a roguelike to play through it once, you expect it to stay fun for a good while

[livid idol]

I don't remember if it does damage in big enough chunks for e8

[sage python]

blood does

[lone wraith]

basegame does a great job with this because it doesnt have much scripted stuff so there's a lot to randomise inbetween

[weak hound]

Any constant damage reduction item negates the curse from blood

[vapid dagger]

Armor plate my beloved

[livid idol]

That makes sense

[wet marsh]

so like armor plate etc?

[sage python]

well its % based, so if you got tons of max health rap wont save you

but you need tons of it

[weak hound]

That's incorrect

[lone wraith]

pick up 10 shaped glas to cheese the blood pillar

[vapid dagger]

You can still get stuff like buckler too

[wet marsh]

iirc the longer you stay in a blood shrine the more damage it does

[sharp skiff]

Solus wing low-key a baddie

[wet marsh]

thats why i mentioned going in and out during intervals

[vapid dagger]

Buckler still feels like its massively underrated

[native falcon]

My problem with buckler is that if I take damage its almost never when im sprinting

I lowkey wish it worked in reverse

[livid idol]

Buckler is good

[vapid dagger]

Eh i like the extra safe repositioning and that it isnt a free win for standing still

[terse ferry]

sapphire buckler

[livid idol]

30 armor is 30 armor

[atomic venture]

While the player is within their radius, they lose 10% health per second (2.5% per tick) for a total of 100% over the charging duration
The health doesnt drain more, the more you stay in its radius

[livid idol]

Same reason kinetic dampener is good

[vapid dagger]

Both are good

[livid idol]

Mhm

[vapid dagger]

Dampener still has the caveat of dont bring it to mithrix as loader

You will die

[livid idol]

I think it's stupid that it's like that

[vapid dagger]

Which is really fucking stupid and should be changed yes

[atomic venture]

i just realized ror2 wiki has a whole article about pillar skips 😭

[obsidian pivot]

??????

[sage python]

oh right they both 2.5%

[livid idol]

I unironically died because i went X122 loader once

Like i simply did not have an answer

[vapid dagger]

No drones?

[lone wraith]

i legit never thought of that, is the explosion that bad?

[livid idol]

I dont like how good current drones are

[lone wraith]

i forgot it even adds an explosion it's so irrelevant lmao

[livid idol]

So i dont take them

[vapid dagger]

Its basically instant death if it hits you

[lone wraith]

wow

[atomic venture]

drones are temporary meat shields

id rather spend my 40$ on chest

[livid idol]

Instant death 😭

[sage python]

have you played since new dlc

[wet marsh]

the humble spare drone parts:

[vapid dagger]

Which it will if it activates while you’re in melee range

Which 1122 loader does not have a good answer for without drones

[atomic venture]

yes

[livid idol]

Drones are stupid powerful and make you stop having to attack

I like playing the game

[sage python]

have you bought drones since ac lol

[terse ferry]

the damage is pretty much 4% hp + 100% base damage so on mithrix you can imagine that's pretty big

[wet marsh]

i literally just had a bandit run where i got sdp and a tc-280

shit actually melts everything

[atomic venture]

last time i took drones probably was like 1 week before ac

[sage python]

they got giga buffed

[vapid dagger]

#ror2-discussion message

[atomic venture]

i genuinely dont remember playing with drones at all

[livid idol]

Actually you can just afk with enough because enemy ai is stupid and often looks at drones instead of you

[atomic venture]

wow

i knew you can just win whole game with emp cores and spare drone parts before, but ac really changed them

just wow

[livid idol]

Yeah drones are stupid broken

Hence why i don't like taking them

[wet marsh]

maybe i should do droneless sometime

[vapid dagger]

Transport drones and missile drones are the biggest offenders of being insane now

[wet marsh]

well i think ive done that before but i should do it more often

[terse ferry]

itemless run but you're allowed to take drones

[atomic venture]

I didnt liked taking them just becase before ac they were a bit useless

[atomic venture]

just play bandit

[lone wraith]

i will now play a run with no dlc

[atomic venture]

i think someone made a run with only drones and no items on youtube already

[lone wraith]

to enjoy the simple things in life

[vapid dagger]

Gunner drones and emergency drones are alright

Also TC 280 prototype is straight up instant win

[livid idol]

Gunner turret is interesting to me

[terse ferry]

why does it have the regen and health to tank pizza while standing in the center </3

[vapid dagger]

Gunner turret are also incredibly good

[terse ferry]

or i guess floating in the center whatever

[livid idol]

Because they made it nigh unkillable, unless you see a blazing elite

[atomic venture]

In one multiplayer run with my friend group we did tier 3 tc 280 and it stayed with us until stage 26 i think

[livid idol]

Then it folds

[vapid dagger]

Given drones have ALWAYS been underestimated for their value but now theyre just engineer lite

[atomic venture]

blazing elites, my worst nightmare after one incident

[terse ferry]

tbf didn't they just not scale at all before AC

[atomic venture]

though the only drones i liked always is

[terse ferry]

they were pretty much exclusively aggro draw iirc
and healing from healing drones

[vapid dagger]

They scaled with environment level since 1.0

[sacred hound]

im a bit new to the game, are the red items good?

[terse ferry]

hm

[vapid dagger]

And gunner turrets have built in aoe resistance

[livid idol]

Wasn't it only like strike drones like that

[terse ferry]

for the most part but there are some real stinkers in there

[sage python]

imo drones have always been worth

[terse ferry]

some are also way more generally-powerful than others

[vapid dagger]

Gunner turrets can solo wandering vagrants

And they always could

[sacred hound]

i got Frost Relic and Unstable Tesla Coil back to back

[terse ferry]

good ones
especially for melee

[sacred hound]

from like the normal chests

[livid idol]

Requires you to have one near the vagrant but yeah

Easy with drifter

[sacred hound]

kk thanks

[vapid dagger]

Kiting is still a strategy

But its faster to just kill it usually

[livid idol]

An annoying one, but yes

Like if my gunner turret is across the map

I am not slowly taking vagrant on a walk when i can just kill it

[vapid dagger]

Magma worm vs not getting distracted by the gunner turret halfway across the map

[terse ferry]

magma worm is one of the bosses of all time

[vapid dagger]

At least i dont have to deal with it

[livid idol]

Magma worm is hungry and the only thing that can quench that hunger is gunner turret

[terse ferry]

idk if i like it or not but i do get disappointed seeing it in place of another tp boss

[vapid dagger]

I think they prioritize targets that are standing still

[sage python]

i think magma worms are a staple of the series

if i didnt view them as being so iconic i may not like them much

but as it is i do quite like them

they are pretty on rpd

[uneven bloom]

you get dissapointed UNTIL you see the perforator drop

[vapid dagger]

Anyway
I gotta watch the new re:zero episode

[terse ferry]

why is a needle stabbing into my right lung

[livid idol]

Re:zero is still going?

I mean i guess i never heard of it ending i just also stopped hearing about it

[terse ferry]

feel like rezero is big enough that everyone would know if it ended tbh

like chainsaw man fans talking about how ass the ending was i think

[fresh idol]

dev diary tomorrow

[livid idol]

I have only heard talk about csm ending being bad in regs

[sacred hound]

yes

[livid idol]

Nowhere else

[lone wraith]

holy fuck the game is so nice and simple without dlcs

[sacred hound]

on s4 now

[fresh idol]

i forgot what is re zero

i don't usually watch anime tho

[terse ferry]

was it because of xorgee

[livid idol]

Perhaps

[arctic seal]

is this what i think it is

[fresh idol]

yes it's a red plane

[sage python]

gonna give this modded passive another shot

[fresh idol]

dev diary

[sage python]

seems interesting

[arctic seal]

i wish it was a release date

[fresh idol]

what is that even supposed to mean

[terse ferry]

fun fact they posted a red plane in announcements during april fools

[fresh idol]

"different damage over time effect" why are you so nonchalant about it just say what the new DOT does

[terse ferry]

people got so hyped they forgot it was april fools

[fresh idol]

perfect april fools event then

[sage python]

death mark: the survivor

[fresh idol]

now that makes more sense

[sage python]

i do wish the primary and secondary were swapped though

[fresh idol]

kinda like very random tho

[terse ferry]

yeah poison on primary is weird when blight is right there

[arctic seal]

i know i worship glorpo @warm basalt and i know he has the april fools thing from the red plane

[terse ferry]

holy fuck i have a lot of roles

[livid idol]

Problem's attic..

[terse ferry]

i only have that one because i'm a collector actually

[unique hawk]

Sure

[terse ferry]

still upset i missed spicy bandit

[sage python]

i need death mark lmao

[gentle copper]

glup

[raw silo]

I need a 10 piece spicy wendy's chicken nuggets. You get me those, I'll mail you a deathmark.

[golden linden]

holy shit it's the hagler

[round sandal]

Just like you

[livid idol]

Hi sylvie!

Hi the meower!

[gentle copper]

hi brodun !!

[round sandal]

That’s the meower in training.

[round sandal]

Hiiiiii

[gentle copper]

i drew my character in a dress it felt nice

[livid idol]

Both can be true

[livid idol]

Ooooooo

[round sandal]

I bet they look as pretty as you

[sage python]

🫣

[gentle copper]

asgesnsv

[round sandal]

Don’t make me upset brodun.

[sage python]

chat, the meower is here !

[round sandal]

I’ll send my assistant against you.

[livid idol]

Idk I look at sylvie's name and it says sylvie

[round sandal]

Yeah she is

[livid idol]

And I know them as sylvie

[gentle copper]

meoww

[livid idol]

Like I said, both can be true

[round sandal]

Alright @sage python teach brodun a lesson. Make an example out of them.

[round sandal]

Meowwwwwwww

[gentle copper]

[round sandal]

[golden linden]

copyright infringement protected bongo cat

[gentle copper]

true

[round sandal]

Hello omega nation

[golden linden]

sup

[round sandal]

Whenever i spell omega I think of onaga from mortal kombat

[sage python]

@livid idol, ok so basically there are these awesome people called "friends" and they are really cool i think. the opposite of a friend is a fiend. one good example of a friend is @livid idol

[round sandal]

W double ping

[obtuse tartan]

W fox

[round sandal]

TRUEEEEEEE

[livid idol]

Fox you sure did teach me a lesson and make an example out of me

[sage python]

thank you thabk you

[round sandal]

HUGE FAN OF FOX

[golden linden]

the teacherrrr

[sage python]

bows and curtseys

[round sandal]

yeah don’t let it happen again.

[livid idol]

And what if i want fox to give me more sage wisdom

[round sandal]

Brodun.

You’re on thin ice.

[obtuse tartan]

Did you work for that wisdom, slime?

[livid idol]

Checkmate ms meower

I am in fact on tile floor and not thin ice- there's actually no ice outside because it was raining and isn't cold

[obtuse tartan]

But it could become thin ice with a simple spell

[errant marsh]

Yummy

6 polylutez

[obtuse tartan]

Think about it muggle

[livid idol]

But i won't be outside for more than five seconds

There isn't gonna be water where i step because of how gravity works

Colorado has lots of slope

[errant marsh]

Ew Colorado

[livid idol]

I don't particularly have a choice living here

[marble steeple]

How did you have so many of the sentry keys? I find a rarely have enough for everything

[errant marsh]

I Leave them on the ground until I finish looting

[sage python]

why lol

[marble steeple]

Thats how it works??? Dang i am so uneducated i will start doing the same thanks for the tip

[vapid dagger]

Isekai anime but if the MC dies it resets the timeline to a specific point he has no control over
Theres no actual video game logic to speak of and the MC has no other special powers or information
He just suddenly gets transported to another world one day and is given no explanation for why of how
It takes the “wish fulfillment power fantasy” of what isekai normally are and turns it on its head to emphasize most people wouldnt last a fucking day without getting killed

[errant marsh]

I think teleporter resets your count to one

I could be straight up lying though

[golden linden]

no

[errant marsh]

I leave them on the ground so they don't stop dropping

[golden linden]

i don't know if it's mods but I have had these rare moment where enemies drop multiple sentry keys

I had a wandering vagrant drop 4 one time

solus invalidador dropped 3 once too

[round sandal]

Gives you 10

[golden linden]

that's too generous

[sage python]

eats 2

[livid idol]

eats 1

[golden linden]

"can I get a mint"

[coarse merlin]

Trades 3 for a bull

Takes 1, breaks it, gives you sentry

[golden linden]

keeps 1 for cerebelum

2 left takers keepers

[mild cloak]

you're not my ror2 bestie anymore. don't ping my printers. don't use my soul shrines. we're done.

[errant marsh]

Sadly had to stop playing with a friend after I found out they main acrid

[vapid dagger]

Had to ghost a friend after i learned they hadnt unlocked slicing winds

You understand

[errant marsh]

I do understand

[whole jewel]

Does anyone know what song plays during the lunar chimera phase in the mithrix fight?

[vapid dagger]

Youre gonna need a bigger ukulele

[arctic seal]

is glorpo your ror2 best

should i buy all dlcs on pc or

buy hc on ps5 when it launches

its all the same price

gearbox add quality on console please

[whole jewel]

Thanks, assumed it was was it’s own track with how sudden the cut was

[vapid dagger]

looting efficiency

[cedar coral]

chat do I take longstanding solitude on merc

[golden linden]

i mean, it'll be good

but i would only consider it if I have any of the economy items

[raw silo]

Y'all, having an artist friend is scary.

[molten hound]

quality is a mod :p

[cedar coral]

yeah i have no economy items im not takinatt

[errant marsh]

If Bethesda can get mods on console then so can gearbox 🙏

Trust

[molten hound]

@plain narwhal give us a console mod menu ❤️‍🩹

[errant marsh]

Also fix the railgunner crash

I have no idea what causes it but railgunner just bricks my game sometimes

[wet marsh]

ouuugh...

i spent like 8 minutes potrolling

was it worth it chat

[errant marsh]

Yeah

Probably

[golden linden]

we'll see soon enough

[eager kestrel]

D

[upper wing]

E

[ionic glacier]

gearbox.... why is your multiplayer booty....

[eager kestrel]

dont make it a thing

[errant marsh]

DESTROY

[ionic glacier]

gearbox.....

[arctic seal]

it isnt

at least on ps5

[errant marsh]

No the multi-player is ass

But functional

[arctic seal]

why doesent local co op have eclipse

[ionic glacier]

on ps5 it crashes like, literally all the time

at least for me

anything past stage 6 and ur rolling the dice using any kind of ability

u js start floating away and the game freezes and the only thing u can do is leave

[livid idol]

ps5 has an issue where it doesn't delete run history

[hollow otter]

Hey twn

[livid idol]

so if you do enough runs your game is bricked

[arctic seal]

isnt it only brick the logbook

[halcyon creek]

hello roland larper

[arctic seal]

doesent

[ionic glacier]

but yeah it's like, barely functional

at least for me

[arctic seal]

gng i went to stage 300 ( trust me

[ionic glacier]

in multiplayer?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347254691966615552/1388599719751585932/cat_evil.gif

[sweet ridge]

can we get a touchup to sotv 😔 its so goated and we also need ANYTHING for simulacrum

[wet marsh]

it lowkey ate my kjaro but holy SHIT

[hollow otter]

[wet marsh]

plz dont eat sale star oh benthic bloom

[terse ferry]

sotv vs the concept of having a good boss

[upper wing]

simulacrum, voidling, and void fiend are the only parts of sotv that need real changes i think

[vapid dagger]

commando gaming

[sweet ridge]

id also like some more void items, like dlc void items

i had a concept for laser scope voided

[upper wing]

voids are awesome but more wouldnt hurt yeah

[arctic seal]

guess what need a rework in ac

[sweet ridge]

RED HOT CHILLY PEPPER? the guy from jojo?

[upper wing]

what would yall do for a 4th difficulty? no, eclipse is not difficulty 4

[arctic seal]

no level 99 cap

[sweet ridge]

id say storm or smth with all the stats up by 33% and give em all an irudsient pearl thing

[upper wing]

i just thought about this and i think a 4th “super monsoon” mode would be really sick

[upper wing]

just making enemies tankier and hit harder sounds kinda bleh

[cedar coral]

when you find roll of pennies printer and longstanding on the same stage

[sweet ridge]

oh and give them 400 brilliant behemoths

[arctic seal]

[upper wing]

what the hell sure

[sweet ridge]

if you get hit once? you DIEEEE

[livid idol]

shrink hurtboxes

[terse ferry]

clueless about behemoth stacking

[sweet ridge]

it becomes bigger no?

[terse ferry]

bigger with no stacking damage bonus

[livid idol]

the range, not the damage

[sweet ridge]

WE ADD A NEW BRILLIANT BEHEMOTH JUST FOR THE ENEMIES THAT SCALES WITH DAMAGE ASWELL!!!

[terse ferry]

it would just make you take unavoidable damage if an enemy projectile hits a surface

[livid idol]

you would die but it wouldn't exactly be instant

[sweet ridge]

skill issue

[arctic seal]

bro imma kill voidling

or someone idk i found a yellow printer on stage on

1 with no yellows on drifter and it was a perf printer

[vapid dagger]

id like whatever this is to never happen again please and thank you

[upper wing]

what the

lmao

[vapid dagger]

i spawned inside that log

[terse ferry]

roll usecase ‼️

[vapid dagger]

and then i ran off the cliff and got caught there

that was not the first time i tried rolling btw

[vapid dagger]

that log that gearbox specifically added to the stage when sots dropped for some reason

without any regard for what itd do

literally why does that log exist?

[livid idol]

it was part of the gearbox vision idk

[hardy wedge]

Guys whoever names the risk of rain levels is a genius

[vapid dagger]

anyway good run

i still cant get over the time i was playing with a merc main who died post loop while i carried the rest of the round under equipped as default commando and they commented "damn commando is pretty good"

[cedar coral]

this run is so delicious

im aware longstanding solitude + roll of pennies + prayer beads isnt the best combo but its definitely close to spare drone parts + empathy cores level

this is SO tasty

[hardy wedge]

Alluvial means related to alluvium. An alluvium is a deposit of sediments, like sand, that is high in mineral content. The level Iron Alluvium is a mining operation inside a desert canyon. Alluviums made of sand are quite high in iron content because they are caused when floodwater flows through a canyon, breaking down iron heavy rocks into sand, depositing it on the floor of the canyon or inside the lower parts of the walls. The level itself has multiple mining drills which, before they shut down, were either drilling into the ground or lower walls of the canyon, where the minerals of an alluvium would be.

[cedar coral]

should I attempt voidling for the first ever time guys

[hardy wedge]

Absolute Cinema

[hardy wedge]

Yes but make sure to you’ve got movement or healing

There’s parkour segments where you take voids fog damage

[cedar coral]

ive got loads of both

over 2k hp atm

nvm I dont have any healing besides x3 weeping fungus is that ok

should I do post mithrix voidling or should I go to vields

[hardy wedge]

Maybes if you have movement

[cedar coral]

oh loads of it plus im using merc

[hardy wedge]

Mithrix and then voidling unless you value your lunar coins

[cedar coral]

alr

[hardy wedge]

Cause it costs 20 to fight it afterward mithrix

[hardy wedge]

Whoever does the level naming genuinely does their research tho

[arctic seal]

hi power bank

[terse ferry]

bye power drainer

[hollow otter]

WE love larpers

[somber void]

if im having a decent run what would be easier obliterate or the chapter 6 boss

[somber void]

also another portal besides the blue one appeard and its yellow, what is it?

[wet marsh]

it uhhh... shouldnt have taken that long

i really really wanted to nail a pillarskip

[knotty canyon]

Takes you to a one-off stage where you’ll fight a unique boss and get an item

[somber void]

ohh the one where u buy lamps or smt

right

[golden karma]

lost seer's msut be blessed since I decided to take them for fun on operator, immidiately found a crit glasses printer and regreted it, and right afterwards I found a deus ex machina

also atg printer on the same stage

[old python]

Imagine risk of rain 2.

[old python]

Me when I take the of awesome luck:

[vital depot]

the hidden realm Gilded Coast yes

Not a high priority place to go most of the time but it’s 4 “free” chests and the best meat shield ally you can get for teleporter fights

[cedar coral]

im on voidling final phase

anything i havent seen already that I should be particularly aware of?

[golden karma]

also to make the run even better, ahoy drone

[cedar coral]

I dont want to get this far just to die

[golden karma]

nope, same as phase 2 just there's a damaging zone away from him so you must stay closer, keep in mind the black hole

[cedar coral]

dw im merc I was EXTRA close already

the black hole kills you on explosion right

[vital depot]

it’s the same as all the other void creatures yes

[pearl summit]

It's crazy how much better fathomless voiding is than base voidling

[golden karma]

on contact I think

[pearl summit]

How do people fight voiding without getting bored

[uneven bloom]

i need to start gushing about ultrakill again

[cedar coral]

on contact???

shit I got lucky last time next time I need to actually hide

[wet marsh]

8-3 sucks!

[uneven bloom]

yeah voidling's black hole is Instant death if it touches you

[golden karma]

ah 11 atgs + deus ex machina + lost seer's, wonderful build

[uneven bloom]

if you have a revive and respawn inside the black hole you instantly die again

[uneven bloom]

nooope 8-3 is awesome

[fresh idol]

i don't really care how "fun" a final boss is in this game. he works and that's what matters to me
but it's pretty hard for me to go see him bc the game gives no reason to

[wet marsh]

level design is awesome but it is so annoying goddamn

[fresh idol]

False Son gives you items and soup
Solus Heart gives you item and crafting

Voidling has no incentive

[pearl summit]

I've never heard somebody say they don't care how fun something in a video game is

That's a first

[fresh idol]

i'm not saying about the videogame
i'm saying about final bosses

the reason why i like ror2 is not bc of the final bosses

[pearl summit]

The final boss is in the video game

[vital depot]

they weren’t saying that you didn’t care how fun ror2 was

you said you dont care how fun voidling is/is not, and they commented “something in a video game”

[fresh idol]

true

[cedar coral]

I beat it :DD

that was amazing

[pearl summit]

Nice

[cedar coral]

a 8.5/10 boss from me

[fresh idol]

who did you beat

[cedar coral]

voidling

[fresh idol]

nice

[vital depot]

compared to all the other final bosses? How incredibly generous of you

[cedar coral]

first time

[pearl summit]

You will not be saying that on subsequent runs lol

[cedar coral]

oh all other final bosses are 10/10 easy

apart from mithrix ill give that a 9/10

[vital depot]

again
generous

[cedar coral]

in my opinion

[upper wing]

i cant diss that level even if it almost gave me motion sickness when i first played it

[cedar coral]

that was really intense I loved it

[upper wing]

its just so bonkers i cant not love it

[fresh idol]

if the game focuses on fighting but the cooking mechanics are trash then i don't really care about the cooking mechanics for example
final bosses are not the thing Risk of Rain 2 focuses on

[cedar coral]

true

voidling didnt feel nearly ad boring as people say

[atomic venture]

risk of rain 2 survivors will reach the point there is no space left on them and all items will float around them

[cedar coral]

lmao

[upper wing]

voidling is just bland thats my main issue with him

[fresh idol]

people say SOTV alt path is trash but that's not what the DLC is trying to do

[upper wing]

i agree with this

[cedar coral]

damn

[fresh idol]

SOTV is the best DLC bc it adds to the normal game. be fr like after you do the alt paths like 10 or so times are you really doing it again?

[upper wing]

itd be cool if the barely existent alt path was more fun but also im more than happy with basically everything else

[atomic venture]

I love void locust stage (is that the right name? I keep forgetting them)

[uneven bloom]

voidling is the second worst boss on the game

[cedar coral]

I thought it was going to be boring as hell but GOD that was fun

it felt like I could die at any second

[uneven bloom]

the worst one is false son, because while voidling is boring false son is an actual fucking peice of shit janky boss and that's worse

[cedar coral]

spoken like a true gearbox employee

[pearl summit]

The boss is ass and I wish it wasn't because I should want to fight it

[cedar coral]

im never fighting it again tho lol

but I do think it was hella fun

[fresh idol]

SOTV focus is not on doing that

[pearl summit]

The fact that you can freeze him at the wrong time and he just kills you for that is wild

[upper wing]

im not motivated to do any of the other final bosses

[arctic seal]

is it because of jojo

[upper wing]

mithrix is the only one i do even if hes kinda whatever

[cedar coral]

other meaning besides mithrix?

[pearl summit]

Never said it was, I would just like the boss to be good

[upper wing]

ya

[cedar coral]

ah

[atomic venture]

The reasons why people hate voidling is:
Ranged ass attacks and with huge AOE, platforms while void fog is tickling you, and there is literally no reward after killing voidling
Some people kill voidling only once in their game to get viend
Maybe people go to voidling to listen to the sick soundtrack

[cedar coral]

not even swing and heart?

[pearl summit]

I love sotv, doesn't mean I can't hate the boss and want it to be better

[cedar coral]

that soundtrack was AWESOME

[pearl summit]

The soundtrack is sick I must admit

[arctic seal]

what is the name of the soundtrack

[atomic venture]

Saxophone Solo in voidling soundtrack

[cedar coral]

the fight has a very creative concept while it couldve been a lot cooler it still slapped

[pearl summit]

It's like giving Consort Radahn's them to Godrick

[cedar coral]

the face of the deep

[atomic venture]

Face of the Deep

[hollow slate]

Does escaping the planarterium count as beating the game (for the skin achievements)?

[cedar coral]

nah

I dont think so

[arctic seal]

i think so

[wet marsh]

beat the game or obliterate on monsoon if youre asking about those

[atomic venture]

Yeah, but only if it's monsoon (if you talk about base skins)

[vital depot]

Voidling has multiple instant death attacks, an annoying homing onslaught, and then tries to forcibly limit the playing field on phase 3 with fog, all the while not gaining any mobility and barely changing the way the player has to fight throughout each phase

[hollow slate]

Yeah thats what i mean. Thanks

[cedar coral]

I thonk voidling having a huge void implosion or like some sort of last stand implosion phase (like slimeaggedon from that terraria mod if ykyk) would be cooll

[fresh idol]

it's bc i like the gameplay loop in general
getting items, scrapping and printing, dealing with horders of enemies and teleporter bosses
final bosses just break that loop. it's not what this game does best, but it does add more to the general gameplay loop with the soups in commencement. i just do commencement at this point as a true test of final fix to my items with the soups and how good my build is

[hollow slate]

Great then i have variety!

[somber void]

i think it appeard cuz i paid that one golden totem

[arctic seal]

gang just let me glaze sbr withouth giving me an essay

[fresh idol]

real

[cedar coral]

I beat every final boss that run i just realised

[somber void]

does it have like increased leg items chance? or just costs more and guarantees the portal

[cedar coral]

10 lunar coins very well spent

[fresh idol]

same

[arctic seal]

do u like looping on drifter and getting inf regen skra´p

[fresh idol]

no i don't like looping in general

[atomic venture]

player on melee survivor not reacting in time on phase 3 blackhole is in shambles

[vital depot]

It does not have increased chance of red items

[cedar coral]

looping is so boring

[somber void]

good to know

[cedar coral]

it just gets ridiculously hard with twisteds and malachites and good lord

[arctic seal]

its kinda fun like doing that once to get infinite regen scrap and get shared design

[cedar coral]

i got an amazing shot of the void from that run btw

[somber void]

also am i crazy for saying that the bleed item is op with artificer cuz of the flamethrower?

[vital depot]

The golden shrine only serves to spawn the gold portal, and the gold portal always spawns the same 1 chest type in the same 4 locations every time you enter the Gilded Coast

[arctic seal]

what do twisteds do i havent died to them once

[vital depot]

There are multiple bleed items

[cedar coral]

no youre very sane

[somber void]

common

[cedar coral]

lunar ruin incredibly fucking tanky

etc etc annoying to fight etc etc

[arctic seal]

did i just hear a fart in face of the deep

[cedar coral]

did you

[arctic seal]

[cedar coral]

might have been that sexy sax

or it was you

[fresh idol]

all of the final bosses in this game are very simple to deal with

[arctic seal]

3:34

[fresh idol]

and it kind of needs to be simple bc you can't balance them to be fought with a godbuild and a terrible build at the same time

[cedar coral]

one sec

[atomic venture]

Mithrix: he is easy
Swing: make her overheat
Shart: shoot balls
Voiding: uuhhh idk
False Son: make him dash into wall to get free damage

[cedar coral]

oh yeah it was just the sexy sax

[fresh idol]

the reward of getting good at Ror2 for me is how easy it is to enter a flow state playing

[vital depot]

Well I think it’s kinda been shown that simplicity alone isn’t enough for these bosses, the attacks can be “simple” but if everything else is too much then they’re still extra unfair for certain survivors

[cedar coral]

swing is a she? cool

[fresh idol]

which i don't get playing any other game as easily

[atomic venture]

no, it's just what I decided to think

[cedar coral]

same

[cedar coral]

I think im gonna decide to think that too

[arctic seal]

false son and shart are the hardst one

[vital depot]

Phase 1 false son is still horrendously oppressive on low mobility, and unless you figure out how to get him stuck on a pillar then that just never ends

[arctic seal]

the hardest ones

[cedar coral]

shart is 100% male tho

[fresh idol]

Voidling is hide behind a wall when he does an attack

[atomic venture]

Okay vro
False Son I can agree, but shart?

[vital depot]

Voidling puts extra pressure on melee survivors and Huntress

[arctic seal]

what about shirt

[cedar coral]

I got smoked by phase 1 false son a run ago because I wasnt paying attention

[atomic venture]

No way solus heart is one of the hardest bosses 😭

[cedar coral]

aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaa

[cedar coral]

from what ive heard it is

[arctic seal]

there is a bagilion lazers

[atomic venture]

just shoot the balls

[atomic venture]

It's not hard to dodge them

[cedar coral]

voidling copy and paste

[pearl summit]

Solus heart is easy

[cedar coral]

I havent even played the dlc but I feel like youre oversimplifying it

[atomic venture]

if you die at solus heart it's genuinely skill issue 💔

[arctic seal]

are u looping

[fresh idol]

Mithrix: abuse ramps or double jump
Solus Heart: uuuuh just dodge shit and kill the flying balls when he gets big
Voidling: hide behind walls
False Son: use your dodge skill to avoid his dash. if you don't have one, pray for RNG

[pearl summit]

No

[atomic venture]

The attack pattern is always the same

[cedar coral]

damn I never use those ramps i just realised lol

[pearl summit]

I don't loop

[hollow slate]

I havent done most of the bosses on Monsoon difficulty yet, i just unlocked all the survivors

[atomic venture]

train that's it

[fresh idol]

the map around Mithrix is designed around playing agaisn't him with little mobility

[pearl summit]

Solus heart is the most predictable boss in the game honestly

[fresh idol]

i think something similar happens on False Son with those stairs at the background of the arena with the dashes

but i never bothered to use it since i just play Commando. i can just avoid his dashes with slide

[hollow slate]

Im still trying to find what survivor i like the most and what they are good at and stuff

[atomic venture]

you can line up with false son the moment he dashes to make him ram into pillar

[fresh idol]

so he is also kind of designed around having little rng then

[golden karma]

are you kidding me that ascorch worm 1-shot me out of nowhere...

[atomic venture]

you can also skip his 1st phase by setting your fps to 8 (only possible with debugtoolkit mod)

[austere prism]

oh ya dev diary soon

mysterious energy drink of mystery

[atomic venture]

also if you turn invisible the second before providence's statue laser it will just not fire

[atomic venture]

hallowed drink

[arctic seal]

say that again

[placid quail]

You ever try solus heart with swarms?

[atomic venture]

hallowed drink
it's only concept

[arctic seal]

oh yeah thats why i was diying

[austere prism]

Prov statue having 0 object permanence lmao

[hollow slate]

This new dlc thats coming, i hope the survivors are fun

[austere prism]

chances of Miner are low but not 0

[placid quail]

Oops all laser pillars

Oops all red floor tiles

[atomic venture]

he will be added
Because again
N'kuhana is green, Miner is green
It's 1+1

oh wait no, miner is greenish yellow

[hollow slate]

I havent played the older risk of rain games, whats he/she like?

[placid quail]

Underground levels

Miners work underground

Miner confirmed

[arctic seal]

20 + 20 + 20 + x =

[atomic venture]

still there is a vomit color in both of them so miner will be there

[arctic seal]

as a child i yearned for

[austere prism]

I really hope this dlc isn't like sots alloyed collective where there's a path of set stages to fight a run ending boss though

[livid idol]

I mean people thought we were getting miner cause of iron alluvium so idk

[austere prism]

hopefully like sotv where there's a stage thats similar to commencement's lower area that leads into a final boss

[atomic venture]

there is a high chance it will be an alternative path

[fresh idol]

actually no

[atomic venture]

huh, why

[placid quail]

I want to fight N’kuhana

[austere prism]

please be like sotv

like there's something you gotta do in a stage before you can leave

like void seeds

[raw silo]

I need a british man to whisper about the upcoming dlc into my ear. It's been too long.

[austere prism]

maybe a ritual of sorts idk!

[placid quail]

Imagine being British

[atomic venture]

collect her concepts to fight her

[fresh idol]

a video of a guy that played a test build on Gearbox place said that the DLC is gonna be more similar to SOTV where it adds more to the run instead of an alt path

[spare saddle]

id rather end it tbh

[austere prism]

Bandit: Hi I'm british

[edgy trout]

they showed that clip of Distant Roost getting all ghostly and green, so it seems likely to me that there may be a void seed-like interaction

[atomic venture]

oh finally

[livid idol]

peak

[pearl summit]

Void items but green

[austere prism]

Bandit: applies Hemorrhage on @placid quail

[atomic venture]

hallowed items

[placid quail]

Stages can now become Haunted

[fresh idol]

i was always agaisnt the idea of creating more alt paths and final bosses bc it just doesn't fit this game

[hollow slate]

Hopefully it adds more skins to the DLC Survivors, they are all kinda lacking on variety

[livid idol]

they won't

[fresh idol]

i always knew people would get bored with doing an alt path and then don't do it again for a long time

[austere prism]

highly unlikely unfortunately

[placid quail]

They shan’t

[livid idol]

we kinda already know this to be the case

[placid quail]

There are imaginary people who would get mad about doing that

[austere prism]

I do hope that there's like dlc specific skins though

[edgy trout]

they said they wouldn't add skins for one DLC in another I think

[atomic venture]

they will not do dlc survivor skins anymore
only base 11 it's own dlc survivors

[austere prism]

so dlc survivors have base skin, mastery skin, and (dlc they belong to) skin

[fresh idol]

fucking finally

[hollow slate]

Why not?

[formal spoke]

Bullshit

[atomic venture]

idk
There was some reason but lemme try finding it

[livid idol]

scope creep

[edgy trout]

so many people would likely complain if they locked DLC survivor skins behind other DLCs

[livid idol]

the more survivors you add that means more skins, if every current survivor got a dlc skin with HC that would be eighteen skins to add

[edgy trout]

yeah this too

[sacred elk]

There’s a state of play on the 2nd and summer games fest on the 5th

[livid idol]

also cross dlc content is ILLEGAL and gearbox HATES us (hyperbole)

[sacred elk]

Marvel tokon

[hollow slate]

Well that wasnt what i was aiming for, it was more like more skins as part of the major update, seperate from the DLC itself

[livid idol]

they did remove recipes for dlc aspects in an update though

[atomic venture]

would we get voiced boss 👀

[fresh idol]

i feel like they are just preparing to create small expansions where they add skins to the DLC characters lol

[atomic venture]

it sounds cool but would it even fit

[formal spoke]

That would be cool but idk if they would add it

[atomic venture]

please be an update and not a dlc 🙏

[formal spoke]

I mean if u want voiced bosses use voice acted mithrix redux

[hollow slate]

Definitely start woth Mithrix fist

[ivory hemlock]

got on tap from this tf

[sacred elk]

Man I love existing

The humble elder lemurian:

[fresh idol]

curse your items to give them a random new effect