ror2-discussion

[vital escarp]

happy like the spiderman character

[vital escarp]

happy isnt that happy huh

[turbid escarp]

no the one where false son will teleport onto you with zero ability or chance to dodge if you have any drones at all

[blissful torrent]

isn't that just false son things (like i agree it's dumb and stupid but isn't that just a thing he does)

[turbid escarp]

literal just rng check if you have drones in phase 1 false son to see if you survive (unless you have loop damage you guaranteed lose)

[turbid escarp]

no its a NEW bug added since AC that makes him even worse than sots fs

[vapid dagger]

Wdym? He just dashes at you? Thats just part of his attack pattern i thought

[haughty crag]

[turbid escarp]

no its different from that, its not a normal dash he does (the dashes he does in phase 1 are bullshit anyways but its different)

[vapid dagger]

Im confused then

[vital escarp]

imagine an artifact that makes it so you cant stack ítems

[turbid escarp]

like phase one is GENUINELY unwinnable with drones, at least in eclipse, id have to find whatever race video shows it off since thats where i learned it from

[blissful torrent]

also with this, from my perspective it's there to enable you to stay on top of enemies for longer more safely and reduce your combat downtime (obvious example is vagrant explosions where with slicing winds you have to outdamage it or run or you eat a nuke whereas with eviscerate you can keep your damage up and just dodge the nuke as it happens)

[vapid dagger]

Eclipse fucks with his dash iirc

[blissful torrent]

eclipse does

[vapid dagger]

Specifically e4

[blissful torrent]

classic eclipse moment (i'm glad i'm not e4 yet)

[vapid dagger]

Bc it increases his movespeed beyond what it should be

Im glad i have enough sense to just not rely on fighting false son to do well

[blissful torrent]

also question, is there a guaranteed newt portal on treeborn? i swear sometimes i can't find one but idk if there's another spawn location i don't know about

[turbid escarp]

the drone changes in AC fucked with his targetting and then the dash getting messed with in e4 genuinely is just the "you cant win against me" combo

[errant marsh]

If they made phase one false son do like 1/4th the damage he currently does the boss would be goated

[blissful torrent]

if they made phase one false son not have scuffed attacks it would be goated

[livid idol]

I don't think it's guaranteed

[errant marsh]

Idk why he has to be so hard to dodge and oneshot you

[livid idol]

but I see it most of the time

[vapid dagger]

I dont think that was an AC thing

[turbid escarp]

i am TELLING you, there is a DIFFERENT bug from the sots bugs for fs 😭

i know how fucked he was pre ac and i know how fucked he was after and its a DIFFERENT kind of fucked

[blissful torrent]

ty brodun! i'm going there a lot lately because i still need the environment log so i just wanted to make sure i wasn't blind and missing a portal

[livid idol]

there's a pretty tricky spot though, always check at the back under the highest platform, there can be a newt spawn on a vine

[turbid escarp]

heres all of them, i checked the wiki and i didnt see anything about it NOT being guaranteed like it does on doost

[blissful torrent]

.

[vapid dagger]

Regardless of how fucked the false son fight is
Evis has been bugged since sots and no one seems to have noticed

[blissful torrent]

what's the bug?

[vital escarp]

im fortelling the future

[vapid dagger]

The hitreg ends too early during the daah

[vital escarp]

now let there be gregtar

[haughty crag]

Khexu

[blissful torrent]

it was there! tysm ^^ i must have been missing it every time it spawned there

[vital escarp]

hewwo vampy

[haughty crag]

Hellllo

[vital escarp]

i'm so bored

[haughty crag]

Do something

[vapid dagger]

Its supposed to hit about as far out as blinding assault does and connect with anything that gets within 15 meters of the entire dash but currently if something is near the very end of the dash it wont connect at all

[vital escarp]

im doing homework but

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i don't like math

[livid idol]

math is awesome :)

[blissful torrent]

oh that sucks

[vapid dagger]

If you dash through a golem with BA and then try to double back with evis it wont connect

[placid scarab]

Best stage 1 ive ever had

Engineer

[vapid dagger]

Best way to showcase why its a problem

[turbid escarp]

okay yeah i found the race video where he talked about it a bit, (what if your crits could crit is the video) where if you have drones fs will dash directly on top of you and one shot you guaranteed, undodgeably, different from how goofy he was before

like you could dodge it before if you knew the fuckery but drones just fuck with his terrible dash logic ig

[vapid dagger]

Ive never seen that happen

With or without drones

[robust plume]

i like men

[vapid dagger]

Ive seen him dash to my location but ive never seen it be undodgeable

He usually gets busy bullying drones tho

[robust plume]

I´ve just been sneaking these in during conversations so that one day i can look the sentence up on the searchbar and show a billion results

[vapid dagger]

Might be eclipse 4 causing him to overshoot the dash bc of perfect spacing between him the drones and the player

[blissful torrent]

get well soon 😔

[vapid dagger]

Bc i know eclipse 4 causes him to overshoot the dash

[robust plume]

its okay i like women too

and i aint leaving the NBs out either

[halcyon creek]

someones pansexual

[livid idol]

you can't be saying that 😭

[errant marsh]

Gay

[blissful torrent]

what on earth...
chat. my halcyon shrine just spawned like 5 gilded jellyfish instead of halcyonite

[turbid escarp]

thats not an e4 exclusive thing iirc, the way fs worked (at least before ac, think its still the case when you're droneless tho) is that he has shitty calculations and will multiply the distance between you to calc his dash, so if you run super far away then run right at him you dodge it by making him overshoot, hence why a certain speed threshold was basically necessary for fighting him

this is different, because instead of dashing at you he will teleport on top of you and then slam down one shotting you

[turbid escarp]

are you looping? sounds like director couldnt manage it

[blissful torrent]

no i'm on stage 3

[turbid escarp]

nah thats a fair response

[turbid escarp]

............ is the shrine like in a really shitty spot and couldnt spawn halc or something? 😭

[errant marsh]

I hope they find a cure for straight people soon

[livid idol]

idk not all men are evil and hateful 😭

[turbid escarp]

LIKING NONBINARY PEOPLE DOESNT FORCE YOU INTO PANSEXUALITY OVER BISEXUALITY GRAHHHHH

[errant marsh]

Do you like pans or bicycles

[blissful torrent]

it was just chilling on one of the platforms on treeborn and i've definitely had it spawn halc there before 🤷‍♀️ but i got the wolfoqol "defeat the guardian" mission and halc definitely didn't spawn and when i killed the final jellyfish i got the rewards

[turbid escarp]

enough of them are for it to be an affliction 🚬

[livid idol]

pans are awesome, I can cook a mean steak on one

[turbid escarp]

weird but blessed rng, i pray for it next time i finish a shrine FUCK halcyonite

[blissful torrent]

that's true but also i was just being silly and goofy and didn't really mean anything by it past "women are pretty"

[vapid dagger]

I have not seen this happen

[livid idol]

I know it just stunned me for a sec

[vapid dagger]

As far as i knew the dash worked the same

I admittedly haven’t fought him much

[blissful torrent]

guys afterburner is kinda pointless on blinding assault merc right? i have three dashes already and they get their cooldown refunded from exposed with m1 and slicing winds

[vapid dagger]

Its actually godlike

[blissful torrent]

oh fr?

you gotta explain that one i'm not seeing the vision

[vapid dagger]

Yeah it lets BA actually get expose CDR

[livid idol]

you basically never have to stop moving

[spring rose]

what if instead of playing mercenary you played as gup

[vapid dagger]

and you get 9 dashes

[livid idol]

so you never get hit basically

[blissful torrent]

right okay i'm sold

farewell green scrap

[vapid dagger]

Every charge of blinding assault can chain three times

[errant marsh]

Man I hate distant roost

[blissful torrent]

OH I SEE

okay i understand now

[errant marsh]

0 chests in sight

[blissful torrent]

the lines are beginning to form in the matrix

[turbid escarp]

ive picked up fighting him more lately cause learning that helped me be a lot more consistent with it (by killing my drones, i just forgot to do it this run)

[blissful torrent]

happy not to make that joke again if it bothers you btw ^^

[vapid dagger]

I never kill my drones and just pillar cheese him

[livid idol]

nono its ok I'm not men you just caught me off guard kaypi

[vapid dagger]

Looney toons ass tactics

[livid idol]

i simply did not expect it

[vapid dagger]

His dash will get blocked by pillars

Use this to your advantage

[blissful torrent]

i know you're not men dw! just wanted to check

[livid idol]

fair!

[vapid dagger]

He usually kills my drones himself anyway

They slow him down enough

[livid idol]

awesome boss that's well designed mhm yep that's false son definitely

(i hate the fact that the pillars give him a lobotomy)

[blissful torrent]

oh my GOD

okay i see what you guys mean about afterburner

i just killed awu without ever having to stop dashing this is an insane combo ty ac and brodun for enlightening me!

[livid idol]

dashes go brrrrrr

[turbid escarp]

no i was here first

[robust plume]

true but i am pan though they got that right

i purposefully allow myself to have the largest possible dating pool so that my prolonged failure to pull looks more impressive

[robust plume]

god i seriously can´t exactly pinpoint what´s wrong with false son

but he´s just.. he´s a little frustrating

not even harder, i´ve had my ass beat by solus wing more and it´s still been more fun

[turbid escarp]

this run just got me back into the ror2 dragon chasing cycle oh my god

[robust plume]

what is bor bor doing up there

goated run btw

[livid idol]

borbor!

[blissful torrent]

false son is more frustrating because he doesn't feel fair imo, with solus wing you feel like you misplayed but with false son he just teleports on top of you and you die

[robust plume]

yeah it´s like

i keep repeating this because it was one of the first things i heard in this server and it stuck with me

but its real

evil movement check of death and despair

[blissful torrent]

about to go to comp exchange does anyone have any good recipe recommendations from this?

i don't use spex all that much so i feel like i could be missing smth great

[robust plume]

i dont know the recipes i just wing it when i get to the chef lol

[livid idol]

atg + fire band is merf iirc, sticky and fireworks gets you a new atg to replace the one for merf

[blissful torrent]

OH TRUE AND I HAVE A SPARE STICKY SO I'M NOT LOSING IT ENTIRELY FOR THAT TY BRODUN MY GOAT

[livid idol]

also wax quail and spur gets you headstompers, which is a double win cause its headstompers for one, and secondly it gets rid of spur which is annoying

[blissful torrent]

that IS a double win

[livid idol]

I'm looking at recipes and fym bottled chaos plus empty flask is four elixir

that's hilarious

[robust plume]

i will say i have begun to understand why you guys say spurs are annoying to play with

[blissful torrent]

does merc have base armour? idk if it's worth fighting mul-t umbra (i won't pick up the shaped glass)

i would assume he does since he's melee

[turbid escarp]

yall ever one phase shart pre loop

[blissful torrent]

i honestly just don't like having one green item that solves my speed for the entire run

[livid idol]

gas + sticky is wisp, and wisp + thorn is shatterspleen if you're interested in that kaypi, does mean you lose proc chain stuff but it would be good for solus heart balls

[blissful torrent]

not jumping to maintain it is a neat gimmick that i personally think is interesting but i don't like having 11 hooves because i found one green

[blissful torrent]

tysm <3

[livid idol]

death mark + infusion is alien head, and because of how infusion works you're really only losing death mark for that

[blissful torrent]

OH SHIT A VULTURE IN SOLUTIONAL HAUNT DROPPED IFRIT'S

[livid idol]

not that alien head is like the most impactful in the world for merc

[blissful torrent]

i can consistently proc death mark (expose + bleed + collapse + slow) and i have basically no cooldowns since i'm merc so this one i will probably pass on

oh dear. solus wing killed my ahoy drone.

[austere prism]

molten perf maybe?

you dont have to sacrifice the atg you have cause you can make another

[livid idol]

also you can get rid of eclipse lite with the bison steaks to have two seared steaks, and pair monster tooth + a white scrap from killing one of your drones to also get quick fix for a health boost

[austere prism]

also growth nectar iirc is death mark noxious

unless you plan on keeping death mark for the bonus dmg

[blissful torrent]

i am keeping death mark and tbh i kinda like eclipse lite on merc but these recipes are really useful for future runs ty guys ^^

[austere prism]

I just keep the cookbook mod cause it's too much of a headache to truly memorize everything for me

I do have most of the desired ones

[livid idol]

oh actually you can make little disciple with wisp and buckler

[austere prism]

like Tesla atg for charged etc

[livid idol]

like you could make wisp and then make that

[blissful torrent]

got a wisp from the chests in the prison cell so i can keep my sticky 😎

[blissful torrent]

i already have one!

shot a grovetender on treeborn

[austere prism]

I think keeping disciple at 1 could be better so bands dont just randomly proc?

oops

[livid idol]

i didnt see you had it already

i'm blind lmao

[blissful torrent]

lemme go do some crafting rq

[livid idol]

regardless thats all i got

[mild cloak]

Scrap all disciples so you can get more yellow scraps

[livid idol]

kaypi is turning fire band into merf probably so there wouldnt be a band to proc

[austere prism]

I wonder what the icon above the energy drink in the dev diary teaser could be

[austere prism]

oh ya fair enough

[mild cloak]

New item ofc

[austere prism]

wait was it 2 gasoline for ignition tank?

[blissful torrent]

funnily enough i actually got a second one from the large chest in solutional haunt along with the will-o-the-wisp i mentioned

[livid idol]

oh damn

[blissful torrent]

oh hey i can have a bg

[austere prism]

and did you also get the uhh ifrits distinction?

[livid idol]

could also get defense nucleus i think you have the stuff for that too

like either or, not that defense nucleus is very good

[blissful torrent]

i randomly got one on the floor

[livid idol]

it's fun though I love defense nucleus

[austere prism]

hell yeah

[blissful torrent]

this is the most blessed run

[austere prism]

ignition tank blazing aspect molten perf

set the world on fire

[coarse merlin]

"with our powers combined"

[livid idol]

oh yeah kaypi two gas is tank iirc

since you have blazing aspect

[coarse merlin]

Fusion dance

Which anime is the fusion dance from

[livid idol]

more fire gooder

[austere prism]

I think dragon ball?

[sacred elk]

yeah

[austere prism]

don't really know enough about dragon ball though

i just know it from the broly movie

[sacred elk]

dragon ball has two fusion methods

three if you count the fusion bugs in daima that were brought up and then never used

[blissful torrent]

i have tank already too

oh wait but actually, stacking it is prob really good for me

[coarse merlin]

Top Emoji in Risk of Rain

[robust plume]

how the fuck am i supposed to deal with false son as mercenary bruh

[livid idol]

yeah but it stacks well

[blissful torrent]

and i have three gas so i wouldn't fully lose that either what the HECK is this run

[tender vessel]

I knew something bad was gonna occur

[haughty crag]

you have iframes

[livid idol]

because of shatterspleen you still have the aoe handled anyway for blue balls of doom and despair

oh you have three gas

not two

[blissful torrent]

killing my kineter dampener by making it into psgs so mithrix doesn't use it against me

[blissful torrent]

i think han-d dropped one

[robust plume]

aw hell nah i gotta play Osu in my risk of rain

[tender vessel]

Blue balls of doom and despair 😭

[haughty crag]

press r toward false son and press shift after the r is complete

repeat

[robust plume]

there goes the thought of using slicing winds i guess

[haughty crag]

slow and steady wins the race

slicing winds could work

you just need to keep your distance

[robust plume]

trust me it did not

i think i also just gotta do this after at least one loop

[vital escarp]

or get good teehee

[blissful torrent]

pov you went to wandering chef

[robust plume]

god that shit´s so busted

[vital escarp]

seared steak!!!

[robust plume]

but also the xi construct boss item kinda ass

[blissful torrent]

YEAH IKR I ALSO HAVE FIRE ASPECT WITH MULTIPLE IGNITION TANKS

[blissful torrent]

but he's my friend

[robust plume]

you crafted one?

the fire aspect i mean

[blissful torrent]

no a random vulture in solutional haunt dropped it

[robust plume]

damn lucky devil

[blissful torrent]

this is the build

(x112 merc)

[robust plume]

I´m doing merc rn too

i want the skins

[blissful torrent]

oooh okok

i'm just working my way up everyone's eclipse levels, i'm on e2 rn

[robust plume]

it´s why im mad about false son rn

he is such a motherfucker

[blissful torrent]

sheart fight brb

[robust plume]

SAY IT RIGHT

[tender vessel]

I feel stupid for becoming heretic on my void fiend mastery run

[livid idol]

solus heart :)

[robust plume]

ITS SHART

[robust plume]

Does it not unlock your mastery if you change into heretic

[tender vessel]

Nope

Idk why

[robust plume]

Dang

[livid idol]

you cease being void fiend when you become heretic

[robust plume]

fair enough i guess

[tender vessel]

Heretic is fun though

But void fiend is better

I didn't get any void seeds til loop 3 though

[haughty crag]

heretic is coded as an entirely different survivor

[tender vessel]

Which is bullshit

[haughty crag]

so you will not gain any achievements related to the survivor you played as when you become heretic

[sacred elk]

veed

[haughty crag]

Sneed's Feed and Veed

[vital escarp]

weed

[livid idol]

imagine self checkmark reacting smh

[vital escarp]

ratio

[robust plume]

dude we´re on discord

[blissful torrent]

heretic is a different survivor, if you win as her you will unlock her logbook entry and that is the only survivor-related unlock you are eligible for

also i beat sheart he was very free

[haughty crag]

its called shart

[blissful torrent]

still no logbook tho :/

[vital escarp]

fart

[livid idol]

this makes sense

[robust plume]

i´ll just do shart first and then loop around to false son

[livid idol]

honestly kaypi you might want to get your hands on a lot of green scrap, go to computational exchange, turn it into regen scrap, and hunt around bazaar until you find clover soup, then heading back to solus heart

not this run cause you murdered solus heart but like you get the idea

[vital escarp]

and then delete the game

[robust plume]

and give me five hundred dollars

[vital escarp]

no

[livid idol]

and then reinstall the game, and then installing snowtime toybox so you can play swarmling survivor forever

[vital escarp]

and then nuking oklahoma

[sacred elk]

who are the swarmlings

[vital escarp]

me

[tender vessel]

I think the worst final boss is voidling because i hate the parkour sections

Fun boss but i hate the parkour sections

[atomic venture]

dev diary on thursday
daamn...

[atomic venture]

download a mod called Fathomless Voidling

[tender vessel]

I'm on console

[atomic venture]

💔

[tender vessel]

Ikr

Very heartbreaking

[sacred elk]

dont even joke lad...

[atomic venture]

conveyor has began

[sacred elk]

the hallowing

its concepts

[atomic venture]

collect my concepts

[livid idol]

this you?

[atomic venture]

engineers 3rd kit leak:

[livid idol]

no because this is engineer if he was awesome

[vital escarp]

wide ass monitor you have huh

[atomic venture]

I don't like engineer

[livid idol]

no i got this from snowtime toybox mod page

[vital escarp]

wide ass monitor

[atomic venture]

150cm wide

[vital escarp]

thats 75% my height

wtf

[atomic venture]

damn are you 200 cm tall

[vital escarp]

55%

[wet marsh]

guys have you heard

may 21 is the first hallowed concepts devlog!!!

[coarse merlin]

May 29th is when Hollow, Mina the ...er comes out

[native falcon]

Dude wtf is Umbral Mithrix on lmao

[coarse merlin]

Undertale fangame lookin attack pattern

He's on his last breath 🙏

[errant lotus]

Bro

Why isn’t there any new about the dlc

[knotty canyon]

literally thursday

[wet marsh]

didnt i send a message announcing that owo

[wet marsh]

thats only his phase 2

[mild cloak]

they do this in crosscode I think

[tender vessel]

I feel bad

[native falcon]

In order to beat umbral mithrix u gotta figure out which word he's thinking

[wet marsh]

gasp

[tender vessel]

I proceeded to state i killed it in sad tone

I didn't mean to kill Big Newt 💔

I just wanted to lock us out of shop

[wet marsh]

dw he respawns in the next run

[unique hawk]

He respawns the next time you're there

[wet marsh]

or iirc next time you visit

[tender vessel]

There wasn't a next time

[turbid path]

[tender vessel]

We got obliterated by Phase 4 Mithrix

Maybe it's karma for killing the newt

[sacred elk]

My first swarmling run and I have a x14 hit list buff

[blissful torrent]

thank you to everyone who gave me build advice

and also thank you to my girlfriend for watching me demolish a lonely man on a moon

[sacred elk]

oh yeah, its all coming together

[tender vessel]

Should i make my friends who are new to the game experience eclipse

[wet marsh]

gauntlet of doom

wait why arent you running the one dash expose?

thats significantly better in terms of damage

hitting like a pool noodle with triple dash sucks usually TwT

[blissful torrent]

reason number one is that i don't care about which loadout is best i just like running whatever, reason number two is that someone in the server chose my loadout

[tender vessel]

How does multiplayer eclipse work even

[wet marsh]

whoever has the lowest eclipse level iirc

[blissful torrent]

it puts you on the lowest level that anyone has on their survivor

[tender vessel]

I see

[blissful torrent]

so if you have e8 on your survivor but a friend is on e1 you'll all be set to e1

[tender vessel]

Alright

[mental anchor]

does anyone have the foreign fruit video

nvm I have it

[wet marsh]

nom nom

whats the foreign fruit video

[woeful python]

Yes

[sacred elk]

We are the swarmlings, we are immune to death

[tender vessel]

Will loader take fall damage now or are they still immune

[wet marsh]

loader is the only survivor that can freely ignore e3

head stompers and transcendence also get rid of the effect

[tender vessel]

I see

[tender vessel]

I didn't even know transcendence does that

[wet marsh]

other survivors can too but they need to use their abilities most of the time

[tender vessel]

Is transcendence even worth it

[wet marsh]

it removes like 2 or 3 eclipse modifiers completely

notably e3 and e5? since you dont need healing when your health is all shield

[tender vessel]

I'm assuming it's only worth it in Eclipse though right?

I've never gotten it in a normal run

It doesn't sound good though

[wet marsh]

it removes a concept thats a bit necessary in most runs to make you SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful

[blissful torrent]

+100% of 0 is still 0

[wet marsh]

think of it like this

you have 2 cautious slugs and you pick up transcendence right

[blissful torrent]

she's mostly fall damage immune because if she wasn't she'd kill herself by ramming into a wall at mach 10

[wet marsh]

you dont benefit from slugs anymore so you can scrap them for better whites or greens

[tender vessel]

Slugs?

What's a slug

[wet marsh]

have you never heard of cautious slug

[tender vessel]

Oh

The common

[silver maple]

imo lunars make you a worse player mechanically

[tender vessel]

I've only gotten it like a total of 10 times probably

[wet marsh]

alien that has landed on earth when it comes in contact with a slug fanatic:

[tender vessel]

Earthworms are better

[blissful torrent]

trans is very strong if you're at the level where you can consistently avoid damage for a bit when you need to (7s without getting hit to start regenerating shield, 2s for it to fully regenerate) but if you're not at that point yet then it's not as beneficial for you

[wet marsh]

oh wait theres a trans transcendence emoji??

[blissful torrent]

[wet marsh]

[tender vessel]

Tuff

[wet marsh]

that is so tuff

[tender vessel]

[mild cloak]

I passed the autism test with flying colors

[tender vessel]

Also i feel like i need clarification on this

Ifrits makes it so you deal fire damage right

[blissful torrent]

no sorry you aren't allowed ANY clarification

[wet marsh]

yeah it almost completely trivializes a lot of what makes eclipse difficult as a whole

[blissful torrent]

every time you hit something it applies a burn based on the damage of the attack

[wet marsh]

it makes you an elite aspect so you have a fire trail and you can apply burn yeah

[blissful torrent]

and you also leave a fire trail

[tender vessel]

So tanks would buff that then right?

[wet marsh]

yes

[blissful torrent]

ignition tank? yes

[blissful torrent]

i had a run just now actually where i had an ifrit's and two ignition tanks and i was melting everything

[tender vessel]

I knew stacking 100 ignition tanks was why i was killing everything the other day

[robust plume]

holy shit thats a baller emote im sorry mr hoopoo i was not familiar with your game

[blissful torrent]

this is maybe a little overkill

[tender vessel]

What

Why?

[wet marsh]

im not sure if ignition tank stacks that well? you only really want 1 at a time, maybe 2?

[silver maple]

tbh, I believe that eclipse is meant to help learn how to play a char and how to item macro.

[tender vessel]

In the run from earlier today i stacked 400

[wet marsh]

its literally mr macro himself i'd listen to him

[tender vessel]

I don't even know why

[robust plume]

eclipse is meant to be for masochists

[wet marsh]

said no one ever

[robust plume]

that´s not my name..

[silver maple]

skill issues confirmed

[wet marsh]

said losmobol

[tender vessel]

Also this isn't overkill

[blissful torrent]

well, ignition tank is 4x burn damage, then 7x, then 10 etc, so the first one increases your burn by 400% but then the next one is only a 175% increase from the previous value, and the one after that is only ~143% and so on - so if you build into other items that multiply your damage they'll be far more effective than just one extra ignition tank after the first few

[robust plume]

im more concerned with the how than the why

[wet marsh]

you didnt even press a button what the FUCK

[robust plume]

HGAHASHASHAHAGHAGHA

[blissful torrent]

why do you have 11 crit glasses

[silver maple]

ror2 really only has two type of players

[robust plume]

canon commando loadout

[wet marsh]

gotta get the 110% crit trust

[tender vessel]

I was confused because duplicator

[robust plume]

three types of people

[tender vessel]

Wait

[blissful torrent]

they have 120

[tender vessel]

Wrong run i didn't have duplicator

I think i was being dumb then

[silver maple]

lol waste of space tbh

[blissful torrent]

they also have scythe and prinstincts which both increase crit by 5%

[tender vessel]

I started a run with duplicator and ended up getting 4 predatory instincts yesterday

[coarse merlin]

Not the inventory space

[wet marsh]

if you have sots try grabbing 3 longstanding solitudes and a brittle crown btw :3

[coarse merlin]

We will never logistically recover from having an 11th crit glasses

[tender vessel]

No point really it was a SSCRP run

[wet marsh]

what does that mean

[tender vessel]

Sacrifice
Swarms
Command
Rebirth
Prestige

[wet marsh]

i did not know that was an abbreviation at all

[silver maple]

ew command

[tender vessel]

I just abbreviate all my artifacts in one big thingymajig

[wet marsh]

you also had honor for some reason?

[silver maple]

haters gonnahate ngl

[wet marsh]

was it wov value

[silver maple]

yeah I dont even have it unlocked

[tender vessel]

Rebirth item was SW

[silver maple]

rng is like half the game to me

[blissful torrent]

oh no somebody is playing the game in a way they enjoy!!

[coarse merlin]

What a helpful way to communicate 💔

[wet marsh]

welcome to roguelikes

[tender vessel]

Thanks

[wet marsh]

yeah 💔

we cant understand you

[tender vessel]

I like playing with SSDDGCDJAIAJSSBAHZJKXND

[wet marsh]

what the FUCK

[silver maple]

oh no i cant have an a opinion

[wet marsh]

minor spelling error

opinion invalidated grrrr

[coarse merlin]

Artifact of Xenophobia

Having an enemy onscreen makes you take damage over time

[tender vessel]

Hold on this would low-key be funny

[silver maple]

oh no my english is broken

[coarse merlin]

Or another player who's acrid or heretic

[silver maple]

you are just so much smarter than me

[wet marsh]

artifact of xylophone

you get a cool xylophone yayyy!!!

[wet marsh]

dude its a joke chill

[blissful torrent]

i find command boring too personally but there's no need to be rude about someone else's preference

[silver maple]

bro are you kidding me

[wet marsh]

no? why would i

[coarse merlin]

I wouldn't play a run with Command for fun but I'm very glad it exists to make achievement getting more bearable

[tender vessel]

CCDDDDEEFGHKMPRSSSSV runs are very fun

[blissful torrent]

idk i think you saying "minor spelling error" was pretty serious and you should be ashamed of yourself 🙄

[silver maple]

if you cant take heat, get out of the kitchen

[wet marsh]

im sorry i take it back please dont kill me 😭

[silver maple]

you obv cant read sarcasm

[coarse merlin]

Artifact of valence electrons

Everything blows up

[wet marsh]

i know i cant 🔥

[silver maple]

no duh sherlock

[tender vessel]

Artifact of artifact of artifact of artifact

Artifact

[coarse merlin]

Artifact of museum

In museum

[blissful torrent]

mr macro have you considered how you can optimise your social macro by respectmaxxing

[tender vessel]

of

of

[wet marsh]

get an executive card and make sure you dont max it out!

[coarse merlin]

An anticonflict kindnesspilled respectmaxxer??

[wet marsh]

holy slang

[tender vessel]

Is Artifact of Devotion + still busted?

[coarse merlin]

This is good news
We can finally of of
We can art artifacts

[wet marsh]

cecil! help me on mithrix cecil!!!

[tender vessel]

I made an artifact mark

[tender vessel]

Mithrix is getting the world's most expensive nosebleed 🥹

[coarse merlin]

There should be a survivor that spends taxpayer money to fight

[wet marsh]

"coming in hot!" mithrix hammer slam

[coarse merlin]

That's the crowdfunder lore right
Get someone from that

[tender vessel]

A character where every ability costs money to use

[coarse merlin]

The Bursar

[blissful torrent]

real money preferably

[wet marsh]

noooo my bank account nooo

[tender vessel]

EA character

[blissful torrent]

5 cents to use your special

1 cent per primary shot

[tender vessel]

$100 to start the run with them

[coarse merlin]

$0.99 to skip the fee on a chest

Or you can watch an ad

[blissful torrent]

if you don't live in the usa you have to move there because it only takes usd

[wet marsh]

just get one of those free converters

surely they can do from euro to usd like how they do png to jpeg right

[robust plume]

captain is a retired military admiral so... maybe he counts?

i don´t think diablo strike is cheap

[wet marsh]

yeah but he doesnt spend a dime most of the time

[tender vessel]

My tax money is going towards those diablo strikes

[robust plume]

i´d be proud to know my tax money is going towards pillar skips in commencement

[tender vessel]

I forgot i got Diablo strikes on captain

[wet marsh]

i still need to unlock diablo's

whats the easiest way to do it cuz like istg i had a couple of captain runs and its as if those things do no damage

[coarse merlin]

Diabolical strike

[wet marsh]

how low does mithrix have to be

[tender vessel]

In gonna stack a bunch of After burners and start trying to obliterate my friends next time we play

[blissful torrent]

fairly low, my advice is to save them both and not take any proc items so if the first one doesn't kill you can fire the second as backup

[robust plume]

artifact of swarms gives you an extra chance to land the blow if that helps

[golden linden]

that would be a good lore debate tho

[coarse merlin]

I heard you should get the one lunar equipment that throws the crippling totem, that slows him down and increases the damage he takes

And stack a bunch of those so he can't move

[wet marsh]

movement isnt the issue the damage is

[coarse merlin]

[robust plume]

honestly it most likely depends wholly on whether or not UES is a government organization or a private company. Looking a whole lot like a private corporation but who knows

[tender vessel]

Is it bad that my friend that i introduced the game to not even a week ago is the only Operator main i know

[golden linden]

with contact light and safe travels being ftl capable ships

and we know that ftl capable ships are a rare sight in world

UES prolly has a monopoly on the tech and does work for the government

[golden linden]

it is private

[coarse merlin]

Imagine if it's like the DEIC 💔

[wet marsh]

i feel that "mains" are flawed when it comes to ror2?

[tender vessel]

He only plays operator

[robust plume]

i have yet to decide who my mains are im giving all of them a fair shot until i decide

[wet marsh]

its not like ssbu where you stick to 2 characters and master them

[tender vessel]

I'm not even kidding he hasn't touched anyone else

[robust plume]

but operator is one of my favorites to play so far

[wet marsh]

you have a pool of 18 that you can alternate with

[golden linden]

that's ok

[tender vessel]

He has everyone besides rex i think

[golden linden]

unlike ror1 rorr, there are no item unlocks behind survivor challenges

[wet marsh]

i dont necessarily have a main character as i can do well with all of them but i like acrid so :3

[golden linden]

so if he likes the perator that is mighty fjne

[tender vessel]

Average match with him

[golden linden]

lole

[tender vessel]

This crashed my game immediately

W ps5 i guess

[wet marsh]

gearbox please patch this shit yesterday

that devlog better have a bug fix patch or else

i know not to grab grounded enemies but sometimes it either happens or accident or i just dont know that a fucking beetle guard??? is a grounded enemy for some reason??

[tender vessel]

I should probably get the rex mastery so i never have to touch it again

[wet marsh]

so i accidentally set myself on a powerpoint and have to tab out of the game

[tender vessel]

I don't like rex at all

I'd rather play no items captain for 100 loops straight

[golden linden]

I'm willing to bet a rex 8 win with full damaging skills if they announce a patch on the 21th

[wet marsh]

thats the first thing i did when i unlocked him, beat monsoon first try with him and never again

[sonic tangle]

twenty firth

[wet marsh]

lisp moment

[golden linden]

twenty oneth*

[tender vessel]

It's 21rd

[wet marsh]

twenty onest

oh wait thats the correct one

21st...

[golden linden]

twent honest

[wet marsh]

21nd

[tender vessel]

Like i said, not overkill at all

[wet marsh]

the shurikens of doom and despair oml

[tender vessel]

I wish there were skins for E8

I would actually do allat for a good skin

[wet marsh]

i would do allat because i want the game to be harder

maybe i should install umbral mithrix

[mental anchor]

I just chose a feather over a willowisp in a shop and immediately regretted it
not because it wasn't optimal or anything but because I left the little guy in there

[robust plume]

Yeeaahhh they still are up to greedy capitalist bs. They did give captain a non rescue ship for a rescue mission

[cedar coral]

you better learn my name cos its reaaaallyyyy

[cedar coral]

whats ftl

[cedar coral]

nah

[blissful torrent]

faster than light

[cedar coral]

oh totally

[spare saddle]

Faster than Luigi

[cedar coral]

even crazier

[spare saddle]

And that’s impossible
Nothing is faster than Luigi

Dead chat

[restive pawn]

Alrighty new item type

Similar to temps

I presume

[sonic sphinx]

i had an okay run

monsoon triple boss

[spare saddle]

Or maybe it’s a new ping indicator?

Unless it says it’s a new type somewhere

[sonic tangle]

neat

[tawny tinsel]

👀

[cedar coral]

HEY GUYS

I JUST GOT SLICING WINDS

[sour garnet]

W

[errant marsh]

False son

[cedar coral]

yo I just got the headstompers and runalds combo

on stage ONE

AS DEFAULT SPECIAL MERC

[next prism]

is there an official wiki?

[terse ferry]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki
could've also found the link in the wiki discussion channel

[next prism]

thank you🙏

[cedar coral]

I think this is a god run lol

[mental anchor]

mando with aoe items vs mando with no aoe items

[blissful torrent]

some people only play a couple of survivors 🤷‍♀️ i have a friend who pretty much exclusively plays seeker

[wet marsh]

yeah but saying you have a main doesnt really tie with the game

[blissful torrent]

how so?

[sterile fox]

Looks like a new ping indicator yeah

[wet marsh]

best way i can explain it is, you can still do well with a character despite not necessarily knowing their kit

unlike with fighting games where the term is used, where you need to learn someone's moveset

and combos etc

looting is common for pretty much every character and run so it really kind of dilutes? the term

[blissful torrent]

a main is just a character you play the most tho, it isn't a term exclusive to fighting games

like take something like isaac, where a lot of the characters are very similar

[sonic tangle]

yeah main refers to just a character you play most often

[blissful torrent]

you can still have a main, and you'll still probably do better on that character than others, there's just more opportunity to apply that character's skillset to other characters

[sonic tangle]

unless

you think main refers to proficiency

which i can also see that

[vapid dagger]

i secretly main engineer

[sonic tangle]

also you can have multiple mains

[wet marsh]

yeah a main is a character you play most but in the context that is used a lot of the time its like

[sonic tangle]

thats no secret

[wet marsh]

"yo this guy mains jigglypuff and hes REALLY good at it"

[blissful torrent]

even then i feel like there's a distinction between main and best character, you can main a character but suck at them and have someone else you barely play who you're better at

[vivid ember]

Cant wait for thursday

[wet marsh]

me neither

i also finish all my exams on thursday :3

looking forward to it

[mental anchor]

ngl I kinda wanna get into plushie making so I can make fmp in real life

[sonic tangle]

i mean usually theres overlap

time sunk into a character means better at it

[wet marsh]

yeah maybe its the overlap that im referring to

[sonic tangle]

but if you for example

are good at everyone and spent a lot of hours into everyone

are you maining everyone or maining no one

[wet marsh]

you main no one because you have equalish experience with all characters

[sonic tangle]

i feel like main also implies a notable gap in playtime between it and a character that isnt a main

[blissful torrent]

i'd argue maining nobody, because having a main implies a character or a few characters that you play more than the others

[sonic tangle]

what if youre insane at every character except one

[blissful torrent]

if you main everyone then you have no main

[vivid ember]

[livid idol]

In terms of fighting games, I main bridget because she is the only one i have sufficiently learned- in terms of other games my main really just means the one I like because I've yet to have a situation where I have to invest so much learning into one character that I'm shit at everyone else

[sonic tangle]

do you main every character except that one

[wet marsh]

rex isnt real

[blissful torrent]

you have an unmain idk

[sonic tangle]

or do you not main anyone but not main that one even more

this is how i feel in tf2

i play and am solid at maybe

6 classes maybe

[livid idol]

Titanfall 2?

[wet marsh]

demo, scout, medic

[wet marsh]

ITS ONLY STIM SMG RAHH

[sonic tangle]

i would argue i main pyro and soldier because thats who i pick most often

but not everyone i dont main is created equal

i dont main medic but can play pretty great medic

i dont main sniper and im awful at sniper

[wet marsh]

i could argue i main demo and switch to scout and medic depending on the team structure because i have significantly more hours spent on demo compared to literally everyone else

[sage python]

i used to be a heavy main cause tracking makes my brain happy

[sonic tangle]

thats a clear cut main

[blissful torrent]

personally i feel like if you actively play more than like 5 characters in a game and you play them all a similar amount you don't really have mains any more

[sage python]

now i play pretty much anyone

[sonic tangle]

i play almost everyone yeah

i also make sure to play a variety in ror2

[sage python]

i dont really play medic or pyro all too much

[sonic tangle]

i used to glue myself to huntress but now i diversify a loooot

[wet marsh]

yeah thats kind of the point im trying to get to, and with the current cast being relatively small? its pretty easy to just not have a main

[vivid ember]

Team fortress 2

[sonic tangle]

i think calling a character a main or not ends up being pretty surface level

at least in terms of how you play everyone else

[vivid ember]

Id say a main could also be one youve invested the most time to learn technical skill ex. My pyro

[sonic tangle]

i could say i main modded survivor rocket in ror2

because i pick him the most often

[sage python]

i main commando

[blissful torrent]

imo ror2 survivors are easy enough to play that if you have good macro you'll be able to consistently win on survivors that aren't your main

[sonic tangle]

but that leaves like a seven way tie between everyone else i play often but not as often

[wet marsh]

track god over here

[sonic tangle]

[blissful torrent]

but you're still gonna find winning more easy on the survivors you're the most used to playing

[sonic tangle]

and deputy

so yeah a fucking 7 way tie

[blissful torrent]

at this point to me you don't really have mains

that's 1/3 of the cast

[sonic tangle]

i play rocket slightly more than everyone else

like a little

[blissful torrent]

how much is slightly

if rocket's not like

[sonic tangle]

hard to say lmao

[wet marsh]

[blissful torrent]

significantly more common than those other survs

[sonic tangle]

hes easily my favorite survivor

[wet marsh]

this is like, my current fixation rn

[blissful torrent]

i feel like he isn't really a standalone main

[sonic tangle]

the main thing is that ror2 feels a lot more fun when i change characters often

[sage python]

atm

[sonic tangle]

so rocket is by far my favorite yet i constantly swap off him

[wet marsh]

playing the same character over and over feels like such a slog

[sonic tangle]

yeah i was like that wth huntress

[wet marsh]

you can have a main that you play more than everyone else sure

[sonic tangle]

now im great at huntress and huntress has rhe most playtime but i wouldnt call myself a huntress main anymore

[sage python]

about half my runs are commando id say

[wet marsh]

but i cant imagine anyone not getting completely tired of the gameplay loop and switching characters

[blissful torrent]

i love ror2 because i go in like "ugh i really don't want to play this survivor" and then i play this survivor and have a lot of fun without fail every time

[sonic tangle]

since i pick her at around the same frequency as everyone else

[vivid ember]

I could play commando for 50 hours straight

[wet marsh]

i could play viend for 50 hours straight maybe

[sonic tangle]

this most consistently happens with rex

acrid too

[vivid ember]

[sonic tangle]

i dont feel strongly about them then i play and its plenty fun

[vivid ember]

I hate rex

[sonic tangle]

even some of my 'mains' like merc and drifter i need to be in a certain mood to play

[wet marsh]

still gotta get on the e8 rex climb

[blissful torrent]

i literally closed the game after my merc win earlier because the next survivor in the list was rex, and i know i'll get into the rex runs and have a blast but i just didn't want to start the run 😭

[sonic tangle]

but when i do its super fun

[vivid ember]

Drifter is peak rigging

[wet marsh]

"do i wanna melee or do i want range?"

[blissful torrent]

(i am rotating survs in order for my eclipse climb)

[wet marsh]

thats the main question i ask myself lmao

[sonic tangle]

i play until im sleepy or my mom tells me to stop

[wet marsh]

depending on my mood i might pick merc or acrid or whatever else really

[sonic tangle]

loader acrid rex viend operator heck even engi are good wild card options for me

if i just wanna experience smth different than my usual

[wet marsh]

loader and acrid are tied on e7 while the rest are varying from e1-e5 lmao

[vivid ember]

I never play huntress

[sonic tangle]

i never play mult

[wet marsh]

i never play rex

[sonic tangle]

or captain

[blissful torrent]

i am not there yet lol, i've cleared e2 with the first seven survs and everyone else has only beaten e1

[vivid ember]

I play captain

[blissful torrent]

i never play heretic

[sonic tangle]

engi i only play if i literally wanna turn my brain off and fall asleep

[vivid ember]

Captain is peak

[sonic tangle]

or i do some dumbass gimmick like turretless

[wet marsh]

i literally have more time on heretic than i do rex im pretty sure

[vital escarp]

L

[north jungle]

Had a very very crazy time tonight

[vivid ember]

Foreign fruit

[wet marsh]

fucking foreign fruit??

[blissful torrent]

there was a time when i had more wins on heretic than any dlc survivor (i had all the survivors unlocked before i won my one heretic run i just sucked at the game)

[wet marsh]

what the hell does this mean chat

[vivid ember]

Foreign fruit is peak

[sonic tangle]

of my modded survivors i makn rocket play a lot of deputy

[sage python]

it means you are a foreign fruit

[wet marsh]

it helps with blood shrines/void cradles lmao

[sonic tangle]

hunk is for when i realy want a different gameplay experience

[blissful torrent]

me when i'm slightly bigoted and i see a gay person from a different country

[sonic tangle]

and i dont play sniper sorry goobessa

[wet marsh]

but not much else its like an escape tool kind of thing

[wet marsh]

waow...

[vivid ember]

Railgunner with runic lens

[sonic tangle]

calling gay people fruits is strange

[wet marsh]

fruity

[sonic tangle]

are straight people vegetables

[wet marsh]

nah theyre just straight

[sonic tangle]

[blissful torrent]

gay people are "fruity" idk

[blissful torrent]

what's fruity? a fruit

[wet marsh]

overly sweet clearly

[blissful torrent]

idk where fruity came from it's just a thing people say that means gay as an adjective

[sonic tangle]

theres an overlap but its not total

[wet marsh]

gay people are sweet :3

[sonic tangle]

i know gay people who arent fruity

[blissful torrent]

yea but like

[sonic tangle]

or whatever fruity means

[blissful torrent]

it's a stereotype

[sonic tangle]

anyway ror2 survivors

[blissful torrent]

my best friend is gay and he's the least fruity person i've ever met lol

[sonic tangle]

have yall played spy tf2

not the ror2 mod just the spy tf2

[blissful torrent]

i have literally only played vanilla content sorry to disappoint

[wet marsh]

tied with sniper as my least played

i do not like spy's gameplay loop

[sonic tangle]

no i mean literally the spy tf2 in tf2

[blissful torrent]

oh

[sonic tangle]

how many hours

[wet marsh]

idk like 10? i used to spycrab sometimes

[sonic tangle]

a 3 hour spy and a 40 hour spy as least played tells different stories

[native falcon]

I have like 80 hours with just spy tf2 at least

[sonic tangle]

lmao

[blissful torrent]

also no, i installed tf2, never played it for two years and then uninstalled it

[wet marsh]

i dont actually remember but i know DAMN well i have >200 on demo

and like 30-40 on scout/medic

[sonic tangle]

im picking up spy rn

[sage python]

it comes from polari i think

[fallow sedge]

Who made this btw

[sonic tangle]

sniper and spy are definitely my least played in serious matches so far

[wet marsh]

yeah same tbh

[sage python]

i think omega?

[sonic tangle]

followed by engi because theres always smth about his gameplay thats off

[wet marsh]

i had my uncle dane phase and clocked in some hours on him

[sonic tangle]

on offense trying to keep up my dispenser and teleporter are annoying even if i can use mini sentries

[wet marsh]

dont necessarily remember how many tho

[sonic tangle]

on defense im met with the entire us explosives treasury

and i dont use the wrangler or short circuit because i respect the enemy team

[low wind]

my dad was a gay immigrant call him a foreign fruit

folks?

[blissful torrent]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[wet marsh]

amazing

[sonic tangle]

so engineer ends up either being the most stressful or boring shit ever

foreign fruit

[wet marsh]

medic is arguably more stressful but i still love his gameplay

[sonic tangle]

i play medic almost exclusively on dustbowl

[wet marsh]

😭

[sonic tangle]

i swap to medic if i wanna really push

[sonic tangle]

dude its fucking awesome

[wet marsh]

dustbowl and awesome in the same sentence is not what i expect from someone playing tf2

[sonic tangle]

ok i usually dont like dustbowl

weirdly my fun on dustbowl comes almost entirely from medic

and then sometimes heavy

[wet marsh]

always gotta be demo

[north jungle]

I liked medic because i am bad at aiming

[wet marsh]

scout doesnt work all that well

[wet marsh]

+150 crossbows 🤤🤤

[sonic tangle]

any time i see a scout on dustbowl theyre either a fresh install or helping the medic build uber

sonetimes bonk atomic punch

otherwise scout is abysmal on dustbowl

[north jungle]

Never got crossbow too ass at video game

[wet marsh]

theres still medics out there that play with syringe gun?

[sonic tangle]

go try medic on dustbowl

[wet marsh]

ive tried medic on dustbowl a lot of times

[north jungle]

Fresh instal

[wet marsh]

and hes veeery fun

[sonic tangle]

anywhere else i dont like medic as much

[wet marsh]

koth medic and some payload maps i enjoy

[sonic tangle]

since teams are more spread out and ubers are less important

[north jungle]

I played like years ago
The shooter ive probably played the most is csgo which I am dog ass at

[wet marsh]

specifically like borneo and brazil

[sonic tangle]

i straigjt up dont play koth lmao

i probably should

[wet marsh]

other than harvest theres not too many great koth maps

[sonic tangle]

i dont like harvest

[wet marsh]

it gets old preeetty quick

[sonic tangle]

it got old when i played harvest event during scream fortress bro

[wet marsh]

snoozefest

[vivid ember]

Suijin so peal

[wet marsh]

now THATS a peak koth map

i genuinely forgot suijin exists

[sonic tangle]

it sucked every time i played it

its fun to fuck around but doing the point sucks

[wet marsh]

sniperslop

[sage python]

i really like koth

[wet marsh]

its aaall sniper slop

[spare saddle]

Is chat in tf2 mode again?

[wet marsh]

👀

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[wet marsh]

perchance...

[sonic tangle]

whats your favorite tf2 weapkn

[wet marsh]

mine? i dont necessarily have a favourite tbh

[sage python]

cascade, harvest, king, lakeside, megaton, nucleus, sawmill, sharktower, suijin and lazarus are my favs

[spare saddle]

Heavy’s mini gun that has a fire ring
Can’t spell that name for shit

[sage python]

oh and brazil

[wet marsh]

lazarus fucking stinks

[sonic tangle]

huo long heater

[wet marsh]

isnt it the one nuke map?

[sonic tangle]

based pick ngl

[sonic tangle]

thats megaton

[sage python]

thats megaton

lazarus is the jungle inferno one

[wet marsh]

which one is lazarus .w.

[sonic tangle]

lazarus was jungle infen

[spare saddle]

Anyways I must away
Getting back to w*rk

[wet marsh]

oh its playable

[sonic tangle]

it alright yeah

[wet marsh]

should i get back into tf2 i dont think ive played in a year or 2 now

[sonic tangle]

yes

[wet marsh]

gotta practice those demo airshots again 🔥

[round sandal]

What the meow

[wet marsh]

what the woof

[mental anchor]

mildly dookie shit run

[sonic tangle]

do yall like yoghurt

hi

[next prism]

whats the best lunar item for artificer?

[terse ferry]

just the usual good ones

[vital escarp]

"good" and tonic together smh my head

[wet marsh]

"best lunar" and its literally like every lunar ever

[vital escarp]

wrong

there are 20+ lunars

[wet marsh]

euology zero doesnt exist okay

[vital escarp]

boobessa just named 8

[wet marsh]

shhhhh...

[vital escarp]

grrrr

[haughty crag]

Khexu

[vital escarp]

oh hewwo vampy

just finished playing subnautica for the first time

didnt knew what to do and i refuse to listen to a guide

[round sandal]

I think it’s sleepy time

[austere prism]

oh yeah its soon

[haughty crag]

Meow

[austere prism]

I forgot about it but wonder how nice of a change of pace it would be from base drg

[plush gulch]

false son boss is hawd

anyone have any tips?

[haughty crag]

theres pillars and other stuff around that you can use to block some of his attacks

for phase 2 hide behind the pillars

[plush gulch]

doesn't he just go around them

[haughty crag]

Lets play

[mental anchor]

I am so washed it's not even funny
why am I this bad at huntress

[wet marsh]

had a perfect e1 run a while back with huntress and somehow died to these guys

APPARENTLY they have a oneshot orb attack that tracks you through the whole stage

[mental anchor]

huntress kinda just does that sometimes
as in dies

[wet marsh]

havent touched huntress after that

[velvet yacht]

When does dlc/more news on dlc drop?

[mental anchor]

I better get a plasma shrimp

[halcyon creek]

500 defiant gouges

[austere prism]

praying I fail the chance shrine 4 or 5 times with gouge

[normal glacier]

Huntress is fun

Until you have to deal damage

"Glass cannon"

[mental anchor]

she is fun but she can

suffer

[austere prism]

lowest hp but also low damage for some reason

carried by ballista

[mental anchor]

doesn't help she also has to get close up and personal for a lot of her damage

[halcyon creek]

huntress mains when they switch to a different survivor and they actually start doing damage

[haughty crag]

rip

[austere prism]

some of the survivors could use some number tweaks or buffs but we know it won't happen anytime soon if ever

like blight vs poison

[normal glacier]

Huntress m1 is probably one of the worst m1s in the game

Yeah sure it's agile but engies m1 is also agile and it does significantly more damage

[sonic tangle]

❌

[halcyon creek]

isnt engies m1 like one of the best

[normal glacier]

Engie m1 haters haven't learned how to actually use it

[sonic tangle]

strafe deals 300% dps with 1.0x2 proc coeff per second

id call that good

[molten hound]

hello

[sinful dust]

half of commando is good 😭

[sonic tangle]

commando has some of the highest m1 damage

[halcyon creek]

pistol that shoots bullets that tickle enemies

[molten hound]

my favourite m1 is chef

[halcyon creek]

his proc coeff saves him so much

[molten hound]

specially yes chef m1

[sonic tangle]

600% per second

that is potent

[molten hound]

14 damage aint that bad when your shooting quickly

talking early

[sonic tangle]

thats more than uncorrupted drown for example

[mental anchor]

tbf
uncorrupted drown is an infinite range laser beam with absolutely no falloff that also slows things

[molten hound]

i do love regular drown

[sonic tangle]

flame bolt is around 320% dps

[normal glacier]

Me when it deals damage faster than engie m1 but it it's a sustain fire non-agile m1 so you're stuck in place unable to move quickly in the dodge shit and move fast video game

[fair knoll]

Dev diary in 3 days is hype

[molten hound]

i think captain primary is really good

[halcyon creek]

buuut that has infinite range

[sonic tangle]

skill issue™

[mental anchor]

I've had a similar feeling abt huntress as I do commando
they're both perfectly capable of winning the game consistently but depending on what items you get that can get a LOT harder

[sonic tangle]

yeah uncorrupted drown is great in its own right

[molten hound]

i hope they add jack black to the game

[mental anchor]

I had no idea abt the dev diary

[sonic tangle]

funny enough railgunner m1 does more damage than huntress and arti m1

just that it cant crit and has shit range

[digital snow]

Hello

[molten hound]

hello

[digital snow]

Next dlc seems so cool

[mild cloak]

🧀

[sonic tangle]

4x100% with a 1.0 coeff

[fair knoll]

Don’t know why it isn’t mentioned in announcements but

[normal glacier]

Me when engie without his turrets is probably more mobile than commando and likely deals more damage because engineer actually has abilities that don't deal damage comparable to a peashooter and he's able to run while charging his m1 unlike commando.

[digital snow]

May 21 .???

[mental anchor]

wouldn't going just by dps be a bit dishonest though? since arti's whole thing is burst damage

[sonic tangle]

yes

[fair knoll]

Yup

[digital snow]

They're working quick wow

[mild cloak]

Nasti banner and RoR2 dev diary fighting over may 21

[sonic tangle]

people just underestimate the damage of huntress and railgunner m1 a lot

[digital snow]

i hope they will balance more the dlc

[sonic tangle]

and commando as well for some reason

[digital snow]

AC is cool but the enemies are so tough

[sonic tangle]

boutta be a good friday

[fair knoll]

It’s just the first dev diary of probably 3-4

Based on the dev diaries for sots and AC

[spare saddle]

I think there might be 6-7

[sonic tangle]

operator is 3x150% for 450% dps which is funny enough not much better than railgunner

[mild cloak]

Thursday

[sonic tangle]

obviously its a way better m1 but whatever

[fair knoll]

Holy shit you are so funny

[mild cloak]

Oh my god limbus update is also on the 21st

[molten hound]

visionary

[fair knoll]

Where did you learn to be this funny

[mild cloak]

developers on their way to put every single release in the same day for absolutely no reason

[spare saddle]

From nowhere, everybody has learned from me

[molten hound]

are you the original funny person

[spare saddle]

Yes it is I
The original funny person

[sonic tangle]

i cant wait for the dev diary to just be them mocking us for requesting bugfixes

[molten hound]

holy shit

[spare saddle]

Please be true
It would be so funny

[molten hound]

it would be so awesome

[sonic tangle]

looks like we are getting a new item type though

[mild cloak]

We have heard your complaints about Faraday Spur and we have a response

In the next dev diary!