ror2-discussion

[mild cloak]

What the fuck is happening

[fresh scarab]

yeah you can throw Boosted Ice Box instantly after pressing the special key

[mild cloak]

Oh it's Gone

Where the fuck did Arknights go

[wet marsh]

i was gonna say to try right clicking the shortcut for properties but uh

what TwT

[fresh scarab]

haunting your pc like the ghost of gacha past

[fallow sedge]

You have been misbehaving recentky, we are taking it away from you until your behavior is back in check.

[mild cloak]

It's not there

It fucking disappeared

Schrodinger's gacha game

[wet marsh]

ooooooo...

its going to haunt you for eternity now

[mild cloak]

What did I do for this 💔

Just let me uninstall the game 😭 😭

[wet marsh]

you see any difference in your disk space?

[mild cloak]

It's still in my Google play library

[wet marsh]

hmm

since its gone can you reinstall perchance

[mild cloak]

I can't uninstall it

[wet marsh]

but its gone

[mild cloak]

The shortcut is gone but the game is still there apparently

I'm so fucking confused

[plush gulch]

i just watched a video on pillar skips in which someone uses loader's grapple while charging the punch. but when i try to do that the charged punch is instantly released?

[wet marsh]

idk if you can launch applications through windows cmd

maybe like try that?

[mild cloak]

You're using the wrong charged punch

[wet marsh]

use default shift

[mild cloak]

I'll do that later

[plush gulch]

i only have the default one

[wet marsh]

youre doing something wrong then?

are you charging the punch while grappling

[plush gulch]

could sprinting have to do with it?

[mild cloak]

I have an archipelago to finish

[wet marsh]

you can sprint during grapple and shift yes

[plush gulch]

i have an auto sprint mod for QoL

[wet marsh]

it helps with velocity

[wet marsh]

if you see the square crosshair while doing it it means youre not sprinting btw

[mild cloak]

Kill crosscode archipelago actually

I've been playing for 12 hours and I only have 2 elements

[sharp skiff]

I looked around the area after the solus wing and found han-d but destroyed, So Han-D is just dead ?

[mild cloak]

I don't even have ice so I have to go through VW by burning the damn fire guys to death

[mild cloak]

No

There's Morse code

[plush gulch]

i tried both charging while grappling, and grappling while charging

charging while grappling didn't seem to work, and grappling while charging released the punch

[sharp skiff]

What does it say

[mild cloak]

We don't know

We've been waiting for you to solve it

[plush gulch]

could it maybe be due to the fact that my utility is bound to M4?

[wet marsh]

binds shouldnt matter at all if i had to guess it could just be the qol mod

[plush gulch]

i know some games are weird with the side mouse buttons

[wet marsh]

try using shift for punch then

[plush gulch]

I'll try again when I get home, I guess

[fallow sedge]

Feel free to send a clip by picking up a role in #roles

[plush gulch]

a clip of the grapplepunch?

[fallow sedge]

Yeah a clip of whatever the issue might be, could help

[plush gulch]

when i get home I'll do that, thank you

[round sandal]

Will do!!!!

[terse ferry]

grunch

@fallow sedge is this you

[sonic tangle]

prts done bricked your device

[round sandal]

Holy chills

[terse ferry]

arknights.exe

[mild cloak]

I'm in arknights purgatory

got sentenced to hell for attempting to uninstall it

[wet marsh]

peace is temporary, arknights is forever ❤️‍🩹

[mild cloak]

Arknights acting like a damn virus

[terse ferry]

is it pronounced ar-knights or ark-nights

[mild cloak]

2

[terse ferry]

freaky

[fallow sedge]

yes
also wtf is happening there

[mild cloak]

I think all the characters say it like 2

[wet marsh]

luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing

[terse ferry]

Supercharged Robomando Supercharged Robomando Supercharged Robomando Supercharged Robomando is what's happening

[fallow sedge]

please explain to me what happened there and how you did it

[terse ferry]

debugtoolkit

[mild cloak]

my dumbass brain thought crosscode would be more fun than ror2 for an archipelago run and now I'm stuck in this hell for 12 hours straight just doing exploration puzzles for items that might help progression

I've beaten one out of the 8 bosses so far

I have everything I need to beat my goal other than 3 shades, 6 bosses and 2 elements

[terse ferry]

outlived the name of miku
using the name of freaku

[fallow sedge]

i still dont understand

you spawned... ally elite robomandos?

[terse ferry]

yeah

[fallow sedge]

or is it related to the character

huh

[terse ferry]

spawn_ai RobomandoBody 4 Supercharged 1 iirc

[fallow sedge]

u are like an engineer of our time 🥰

[terse ferry]

i'm a female goobo jr. actually

[fallow sedge]

oh my god.

i never realized that

[terse ferry]

qwp are we /srs

[fallow sedge]

most srs youll ever see me

[terse ferry]

oh my fucking god qwp 😭

[fallow sedge]

no way, ok genuine actually question incoming

was the "Jr." always in your name

[terse ferry]

yeag

[fallow sedge]

fuuucckkkkkkk

[terse ferry]

to be fair some people miss the goobessa as well

[plush gulch]

@wet marsh idk if ur interested but i experimented and found out the problem was with the keybinding

when i rebound it to shift, the problem went away

[haughty crag]

I axe the questions around here

[wet marsh]

oh thats great

[plush gulch]

which absolutely sucks because I have this problem on no other character and i've built my muscle memory already 😭

[haughty crag]

Stares at

[wet marsh]

you cant bind 2 keys at once on a single ability?

[plush gulch]

settings screen looks like this

[mild cloak]

@terse ferry apparently you want to get exactly 134 speed on evanescia

that's the "optimal" amount

[fallow sedge]

i just set my m4 to be "p" in the web driver

[plush gulch]

the web driver?

[wet marsh]

that sucks 3:

[fallow sedge]

cuz having m4 fucks with certain games anyway

[plush gulch]

care to elaborate what the web driver is

that sounds useful, and like it fits my case

[fallow sedge]

whatever you use to mess around with your mouse settings

[plush gulch]

oh, right

[fallow sedge]

you could set m4 to shift there and then have utility ingame be set to shift

so you can use 2 keys for the ability

[plush gulch]

wait you can set it for specific games? or it's like a OS-wide setting

[fallow sedge]

its a system wide thingy

[plush gulch]

aite ill look into it, cheers

[fallow sedge]

np have a good one

[pulsar dew]

haha hey so What

[wet marsh]

address me

why do you have 10 focused convergence 😭

[plush gulch]

excellent, i downloaded a utility for rebinding

thanks for the suggestion

wait, fuck

the problem is still there 😭 i guess maybe the problem is inherent to my mouse and not the software implementation

god fucking dammit

[tawny pilot]

i want a mod for ror2 that lets you bring in like 100 players

simultaneously, even if they're just like a crowd of exact copies of you

[pulsar dew]

so uh

what does radio scanner show up as on radar scanner

[slim moon]

i keep getting crazy sale star drops

[pure axle]

mind if i cut in

[plush gulch]

your run is cooked, now you will spend 40 minutes deciding which one to pick up and the difficulty will scale too much

[pulsar dew]

quantity over quality

[slim moon]

am gonna recycle stuff this stage and go on with the card

[plush gulch]

holy shit teach me this tech

[pure axle]

all roads lead to rome

your run is dead already

might aswell give up

[slim moon]

ill report back with the run ending

[wet marsh]

just go with executive everything and then macro whatever you dont want with recycled

[fallow sedge]

Where did this lead to

Is that just what low settings are like lmao

[pulsar dew]

the ac stage 2

[fallow sedge]

Ah

[restive pawn]

What's up gamers REX here

Or should I say rexror2yes

I still don't get that one guy who said to stop complaining about getting new content 😭

Like man is it not ok to be worried about the life cycle of a ror2 dlc

[sonic tangle]

when was this

[restive pawn]

I rlly don't get how people can just

Pretend the life cycle isn't atleast a little concerning

[plush gulch]

twitter

bottom text

[sonic tangle]

i can get it

[dire sail]

I’d personally go with Recycler because I’d think that Recycler is more likely to find me another Card than Card is to find another Recycler

[plush gulch]

yeah i tend to keep recyclers too

[dire sail]

Plus it’ll get you more Tricorns

[pulsar dew]

im gonna be real

it is
but idgaf

i like the contentslop . im a content pig feed me more content slop

another survivor? yes please

another boss? oh how fun!

im probably the average here, too

[fallow sedge]

Casual audience doesnt care about the game lol

[dire sail]

I do wish they’d revisit some old content. Top of head, Pillars and Hunters Harpoon is both content most people just go out of their way to avoid because they’re annoying and unfun.

[terse ferry]

why 😭

does it have to do with Aha timing

[mild cloak]

It's because she wants to stack as much CB as possible

more speed = more turns = less possible CB

you ideally want to get speed boots and then get 0 speed substats

put them all into crit

[terse ferry]

evil speed character:

[mild cloak]

also build her with a critdamage chest because she gains a bunch of critrate already

[mild cloak]

Sw999 is even worse

wants speed but doesn't want turns

[mild cloak]

wants attack but doesn't want attack are we deadass

[terse ferry]

what gimmick even gives her this </3

[mild cloak]

she has a bunch of elation damage (doesn't scale with attack) but she also has a lot of damage (scales with attack)

[terse ferry]

the freakster

[pure axle]

hopoo code is sacred and will never be touched

[slim moon]

got a crazy bleed build going and mopped the floor with mithrix

[mild cloak]

also she wants hp% sphere

why.

[terse ferry]

giving you fucked up build priorities for the heck of it does sound pretty in character for her ngl

[mild cloak]

this character represents the rapidly dwindling sanity of hsr players I think

What the fuck are we meant to DO???

[pulsar dew]

when do i call it quits

[summer bolt]

Top of head?

[pulsar dew]

because i want my artifact of rebirth not to suck ass

[summer bolt]

I’d never go out of my way to avoid top nor head

Can we fact check this

Ok can chat not die the one time I say something bannable like ffs

[vivid ember]

[pulsar dew]

HELP

[dire sail]

As in “off the Top of my head”

[summer bolt]

Aaaaaaah

I seee

[dire sail]

Probably 😔 like with pillars all id think is needed is have each one give a moon exclusive item that gives a minor stat perk associated to that aspect of pillar

Like better health, speed, regen, whatever

[pulsar dew]

now all i need are the two ac stage 3s and the stage 4

[halcyon creek]

gee i wonder why

[rugged cipher]

nah shit pc clearly

[terse fossil]

L trashgunner

[wet marsh]

this railgunner agenda cannot be real

[pearl summit]

Railgunner slander will not be tolerated.

[sharp skiff]

Lemurians are so cool

[mild cloak]

is there an Optimus prime survivor

[steep onyx]

eclipse is such a ball mode money reduction is so painful man

[mild cloak]

@sonic tangle SIX MONTHS?

[sonic tangle]

[mild cloak]

will you pull for kal'tsit alter or will you pull for monster hunter collab

[sonic tangle]

how close together are they

[mild cloak]

green pill or dino shaped pill

[mild cloak]

Pretty sure right after one another

[sonic tangle]

jesus

yeah the last time this happened i failed pulling the blue haired lady

[mild cloak]

remember

[sonic tangle]

il still try pulling both but il stop the moment i get kalter

[mild cloak]

They might rerun yato alter

[sonic tangle]

exactly

[mild cloak]

you must have 200 pulls

[sonic tangle]

nah il just get lucky

[mild cloak]

or 176 if they do the free pull stuff

[sonic tangle]

dawg now pulling for nasti is hard to justify

[mild cloak]

if you just skip every banner after pulling nasti, you'll have 300

so not really

and I KNOW your ass is not about to pull w*ng

[sonic tangle]

but i want yu and shu

[mild cloak]

Get lucky with your free pulls

[sonic tangle]

ok fair enough

[mild cloak]

ain't no way you're risking getting wang

[sonic tangle]

how long till this anyway

[mild cloak]

6 months till kal'ter and mh2

[sonic tangle]

when is wang

[mild cloak]

Uhhh let me check

[terse ferry]

wangker

[sonic tangle]

goobessa join us

i beg

[terse ferry]

i forgor

[mild cloak]

we still have Nasti event, thorns alter rerun event, titi event and Yu event rerun

[sonic tangle]

haha tities

[terse ferry]

thought that said nazi event

[mild cloak]

this is what rorcord was made for

[sonic tangle]

im ignoring titi anyway she seems boring as fuck

[mild cloak]

titi is just papyrus upscale iirc

[sonic tangle]

fucked up sentence for anyone who doesnt know arknights

[terse ferry]

wait that's a CHARACTER NAME???

[mild cloak]

Yeah??

[sonic tangle]

yeah the egyptians have funny names

we got pepe and titi its so cool

[terse ferry]

character whose name is titty and the filipino word for penis
awesome

[mild cloak]

All of these are character names

[wet marsh]

i knew it wasnt real :3

[mild cloak]

we are not pulling for Wang

Goobessa join us in Arknights

[sonic tangle]

il use my free pulls and if it doesnt turn out il see because i still want chen³

[mild cloak]

We have the monster hunter collab on the horizon

If you play now you'll be able to get

Uhhm

If you play in 3 days you'll be able to get nasti!!

[terse ferry]

nasty

[sonic tangle]

worth

[mild cloak]

She is the second best artificer operator in the game

[terse ferry]

pretty

[sonic tangle]

wow that means so much to someone without context

also who is the best one again

[mild cloak]

Stainless

[terse ferry]

she has aoe hover and drones clearly

[sonic tangle]

midless

actually idk hes probably good idk

[mild cloak]

Stainless has sp Regen robots

[sonic tangle]

mhm

[mild cloak]

You genuinely cannot make a better artificer without straight up powercreeping stainless

[sonic tangle]

i cant wait for patrizion to get a fit when the event reruns

[vital escarp]

stainless steel

[mild cloak]

Did you see the new reed alter skin

I might buy it...

[sonic tangle]

cjristmas

[mild cloak]

I'll get a free reed alter from the kal'tsit alter event anyways

so I might as well

[sonic tangle]

i prefer the 2 others because cool animated art

[mild cloak]

I prefer how they look in combat

[sage python]

my ark knights oc called shooti

[mild cloak]

Woah what is her class

[sonic tangle]

im surprised thats not a real character name

[sage python]

ror robot ass names

[sonic tangle]

6* marksman

[mild cloak]

That seems like a medic

[sonic tangle]

that becomes physical goldenglow/lappalter with s3

[mild cloak]

Wait this sucks

[mild cloak]

Physical damage doesn't proc Yu s3

KILL shooti

[sonic tangle]

boo

[rugged cipher]

is arknights a gacha game

[sonic tangle]

yes unfortunately

[mild cloak]

4 supah videos about how shooti is the worst designed operator ever

[rugged cipher]

ew

[sonic tangle]

i dont watch arknigjts youtube at all

[mild cloak]

Yeah

[mild cloak]

supah is the self proclaimed "most hated arknights YouTuber"

[sonic tangle]

honk shoo

[terse ferry]

@mild cloak have you played the extra mode rabbits

[mild cloak]

I played grenadier and shadow a ton

Shadow is so strong

[terse ferry]

true

[sonic tangle]

crazy convo pivot

[terse ferry]

anyway goated pyro run so far

[mild cloak]

5 billion invulnerability frame moves

[mild cloak]

Rorcord cannot keep the same conversation going for more than 30 minutes

you should be used to this by now

[terse ferry]

ADHDcord

[sonic tangle]

i hate trying to look for arknights gifs because its all endfield slop now

[terse ferry]

anyway time to get tortured by eternal bloom

[mild cloak]

10 minutes studying vs 10 minutes in rorcord gif

[sonic tangle]

like dawg who is this

[terse fossil]

no i actually despise trashgunner

[mild cloak]

That's chen

[sonic tangle]

chens autistic daughter yeah

[mild cloak]

I hate endfield

because it fucked up tenor gif search

[sonic tangle]

correct

[terse ferry]

chen from touhou???

[mild cloak]

Some good news: 4/5 of the people I've seen play Endfield have quit it already

[sonic tangle]

you have to scroll down so much to find arknights chen and not her chud ass daughter

[mild cloak]

I look up arknights and I get yvonne

I look up arknights Angelina and I get gilberta

[sonic tangle]

yvonne is straight up a zzz character its not even funny

[mild cloak]

Who the hell named her gilberta

[sonic tangle]

i look up surtr i find that other character thats literally just surtr

[mild cloak]

I'd pull but her name is GILBERTA

[spare kettle]

#other-games

[mild cloak]

Oh it's over for us

[obtuse tartan]

i love risk of rain 2!

[sonic tangle]

[mild cloak]

We love risk of rain 2

[sonic tangle]

i dont

wheres the hot anime men

[mild cloak]

mods

we have goku

[sonic tangle]

i wouldnt describe goku as hot

[mild cloak]

I think he's relatively hot ?

There's a Vegeta mod I guess

[terse ferry]

he's buff and that's about all i know about men being attractive

[sonic tangle]

i have yet to play is im a dumbass

[sonic tangle]

thorns the lodestar fit

[mild cloak]

You're going to get us killed

[sonic tangle]

they dont know what is means

[terse fossil]

okay everyone what's your hottest risk of rain 2 take

[sonic tangle]

its like the guy blinking morse code on tv

[mild cloak]

Not enough gacha

[sonic tangle]

i know goobessas one

[terse ferry]

the RAP thing?

[sonic tangle]

she thinks repulsion armor plate is mid

yeah

[sage python]

he doesnt have cool sci fi armour sorry

[terse fossil]

mine (besides hating trashgunner but i speak about this a lot anyways) is that the mods that change the color scheme of environments are ass and idk why people are using those

[sonic tangle]

gimme a moment to think for myself

[mild cloak]

It's just a worse planula

[sonic tangle]

honestly cant think of a particularly hot take

[sage python]

personally i feel they all just make them generic

[mild cloak]

rex sucks

[sonic tangle]

what a hot take

[mild cloak]

that's a cold ass take

[terse fossil]

like i swear i'll watch someone's ror vid or stream and they're using a stage aesthetic mod or whatever and it turns a stage that looks completely fine into a piece of shit (literally)

[mild cloak]

freezing temperatures over here

[terse fossil]

antarctica ahh take

[sonic tangle]

ok uhh mult sucks

[mild cloak]

valid ??

[sonic tangle]

i genuinely cant think of anything lmao

[mild cloak]

I like double saw mult but he's not that fun otherwise

[sonic tangle]

my most polarized opinion i remember is that i think faulty conductor is mid

[terse fossil]

i honestly just feel like the original color schemes of maps were well thought out then people start changing them into random shit and it doesn't look good 99% of the time

[mild cloak]

I hate you

[terse fossil]

alloy hunter yellow item?

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[mild cloak]

NEVER add me on arknights

[terse fossil]

it's really build dependent and you don't get it that often so it's mid

[sage python]

abyssal depths but made of cheese

[sonic tangle]

every stage but with the color scheme and fog of helminth

[mild cloak]

every stage but with void fields fog

[sonic tangle]

umm foreign fruit is the worst regular equipment

wake of vultures is good

[sage python]

now that is a hot take

[harsh trout]

i mean that one's just true

[mild cloak]

small little cells scattered around the maps so you can maybe live

[wet marsh]

bait :3

[sonic tangle]

ok but what other equipment is worse

[sage python]

[sonic tangle]

sml heals more for a longer cooldown

[sage python]

[wet marsh]

no like actual question what isnt that you like on the character

[sonic tangle]

doesnt count shush

[sage python]

lolol

[wet marsh]

is she not fluid enough

[mild cloak]

[sage python]

cant be used reactively though

[sonic tangle]

i gladly take super massive leech over foreign fruit

[sonic tangle]

it can be used proactively

[mild cloak]

vase is genuinely just the potential equipment

[sage python]

i guess leech has a niche, whereas fruit is largely worse woodsprite

[terse fossil]

the only kind of environment aesthetic change i could get behind is that one thing i saw in an old disputed vid that i'd have to look up but it basically added more sunshine to scorched acres

[sage python]

you cant heal proactively

[sonic tangle]

you can jump right into a mosh pit and attack enemies during it and be fine

[sage python]

unless you have aegis

[mild cloak]

if you can't pillar skip, if you don't have mobility

[sonic tangle]

you can activate it before you jump into a fight you know youll take a ton of damage in

[wet marsh]

and it does a whole lot of nothing in any other scenario

[sonic tangle]

vase is quite bad

[wet marsh]

the only effective use would be scrapper macroing but

[mild cloak]

0 usecases, 0 utility provided, 7 useless Zipline points

[sonic tangle]

but i still think its better since its the best at going from point a to b on a stage

foreign fruit is outclassed by 2 and a half equipment

[mild cloak]

Crowdfunder is just kinda... Mid

[sonic tangle]

crunder is good

[sage python]

[mild cloak]

I've never really liked crowdfunder

[sonic tangle]

better

[sage python]

[mild cloak]

S tier equipment

[sonic tangle]

better

[mild cloak]

Better than vase

[sonic tangle]

those are better than foreign fruit

[mild cloak]

Chrysalis is just vase but good

[sage python]

id rather have vase

[mild cloak]

I can still attack during chrysalis

[sonic tangle]

milky chrysalis is basically env suit

on a cooldown

[mild cloak]

which I don't think is possible using vase iirc

[wet marsh]

isnt chrysalis w/o movement like pretty mid

[terse fossil]

okay so first of all i have never played first person shooters, so while using the scope i feel compromised and i feel like i'm blind or something as i lose a lot of my view
also the timing thing after using the secondary or special is annoying

and she just feels clunky to play

[sonic tangle]

depends

[vivid ember]

big damage

[sonic tangle]

its usually still pretty solid

[mild cloak]

You always have movement

[sonic tangle]

also my other take is wake of vultures is pretty good

not like great but not that bad

[wet marsh]

as in no speed items to benefit from it all that well

[sonic tangle]

milky chrysalis gives you a speed boost with it active

[sage python]

i find chrysalis annoying

the deceleration is kinda funky

[wet marsh]

i'd take it over happy mask/orphaned core but its not a red im excited to see

"ooo a red nvm its wake of vultures..."

[sonic tangle]

id take it over uhh

and orphaned core and substandard duplicator

its not too far off from brainstalks imo

[wet marsh]

yeah thats valid tbh but clowning on an entire character because you cant play them effectively is... idk

[terse fossil]

it's annoying on eclipse 5+ and will fuck you over on false son if you have it on commencement

[raw rapids]

Idk if I'm mid but I like the reassurance of having a dios

[sonic tangle]

i dont play eclipse or false son

[sonic tangle]

dios is alright

[terse fossil]

same and i have got 5 e8 wins

[sonic tangle]

having a totally infallible revive is nice

[wet marsh]

i honestly forget i have dios and get junpscared when i suddenly revive

[jaunty gulch]

hey dio's is pretty ok to have

[wet marsh]

aegis has potential just get bungus healing

[sonic tangle]

id rather have wake of vultures

[wet marsh]

🙏

[sonic tangle]

it should be buffed but its not bottom tier trash

[mild cloak]

Bhaos

[wet marsh]

wov feels survivor dependent, and well elite dependent too

[mild cloak]

I'd take bhaos over any other red

[sonic tangle]

its not that survivor dependent

[mild cloak]

bhaos is peak

[sonic tangle]

especially compared to brainstalks

and the 2 best elite types are common tier 1 elites

[wet marsh]

i had wov with commando and killing electric elites skyrockets his damage

so does applying debuffs well

[sonic tangle]

its a 50% damage boost to everyone

[pulsar dew]

if a stage has a post-loop counterpart, can you still get its pre-loop counterpart?

[sonic tangle]

same with blazing

[sonic tangle]

it isnt supposed to

[pulsar dew]

fuuuck

[sonic tangle]

but i think someone once did get a run where they got preloop variants post loop due to a bug

[pulsar dew]

really?

fucckk i dont wanna WAIT that long

[mild cloak]

How come all of the games that get zero updates have such active communities

[pulsar dew]

because the game is good\

[sonic tangle]

team 2

[mild cloak]

Limbus company:

[pulsar dew]

they all have the evil autism

instead of us . the good autism

[mild cloak]

We are the good autism

[sage python]

wake of vultures secretly became best economy item since sots dropped

[mild cloak]

We fixate on dying games

[sage python]

the gold you gain means you can speed through the game

[wet marsh]

so real

[sonic tangle]

also brainstalks remains underrated

[wet marsh]

is ghor's still good after sots

[sonic tangle]

ghors tome is fine

[raw rapids]

Good early game I usually scrap after a loop though

[harsh trout]

ghors is fine but a cleanup drone can do its job

[mild cloak]

Ghors got good after ac

[wet marsh]

because back when i played without dlcs i preferred to have at least ghor's to move faster through the stages

[raw rapids]

I lk hate cleanup drons

[mild cloak]

They indirectly buffed ghor because of collector compulsion

[wet marsh]

now i just never need it due to gilded elites

[sage python]

its good but devalued a little

[terse fossil]

you clearly haven't seen the amount of time i spent on minecraft smps that were so dead that you could practically call them my own survival worlds

tho i don't have a diagnosis

[mild cloak]

This is evil autism

[sage python]

i really hope they fix gilded elites, they can often trivialise gold gain

[terse fossil]

jokes on you i'm not diagnosed

[mild cloak]

evil autism keeps dead games alive

[pulsar dew]

i need the uhh

alloyed collective stage 3 pre loop stage log

[terse fossil]

hard to call them alive if nobody's playing these besides for you

[sonic tangle]

iron alluvium

[wet marsh]

iron alluvium?

[mild cloak]

I just diagnosed you

[sage python]

such a shame cause i like the ideas

[pulsar dew]

maybe?

the one thats yellow

[wet marsh]

i think i got that logbook lmao

[terse fossil]

show me your doctor's license or something

[sonic tangle]

it doesnt come up frequently enough for me to be bothered

i like gilded elites

[mild cloak]

I don't have one

[sage python]

it happens every stage for me

[mild cloak]

What are you gonna do? Take my license?

[wet marsh]

sometimes its like they drop no money and other times i get a good 800-1k off of them alone

[terse fossil]

is this magnus carlssen

[old python]

Cleanup drones are becoming rare asf for some reason tho.. tho the best drone to get first.

[wet marsh]

the gold drop is inconsistent

[sonic tangle]

itd be nice to fix though

[mild cloak]

Chess 2 is dropping in 3 days

[sage python]

if they get hit by a gold elite they spew out cash like no ones business

[mild cloak]

it's called unrealized realities

[sage python]

speeds up player level gain a hefty amount too

[sonic tangle]

whats the gimmick

[sage python]

the stats, attack and gold drop are all cool

i like having a proper tanky elite

[mild cloak]

Your pieces float and all the pieces float but if there are too many pieces on one square all of the pieces on that square DIE

[sonic tangle]

what

[pulsar dew]

yeah and i DONT

[sonic tangle]

what does any of that mean bro

[pulsar dew]

im missing the ac normal stage 4 and both of the alliviums

[sonic tangle]

also why we doin the chess gimmick now and not in retracing our steps

[wet marsh]

they really need to fix the logbook spawn rates for the stages it genuinely pisses me off

make them not take anything in eclipse at the very least

[pulsar dew]

using radar scanner in a stage gives you the logbook

[sonic tangle]

this is a lie

[pulsar dew]

yea but it shouldnt be

[wet marsh]

biggest lie oat

[rugged cipher]

lies

[pulsar dew]

motherfucker its called a HYPOTHETICAL

[wet marsh]

almost fell for it lowkey

[pulsar dew]

you mustve been real fun back in first grade

[sonic tangle]

yeah i was

[wet marsh]

just say "what if [statement]"??

[old python]

Lost seer's lenses are starting to grab my attention ngl.

[pulsar dew]

but thats so much effort

[sonic tangle]

lost seers are awesome

[pulsar dew]

yeah to how much they PISS me OFF

[lone wraith]

its definitely a lot better with dlc3 enabled

[sonic tangle]

just not good enough for me to justify picking up most of the time

[wet marsh]

i think that trivializes the logbook entries tbh

i thought of secret spots like how bazaar does it

but im not sure how great that'd be

[sonic tangle]

yeah thatd be nice

[wet marsh]

instead of a cost heavy director spawn

[lone wraith]

risk of rain returns just hides the stage lore books in secret spots iirc

[sonic tangle]

just hide the logbook somewhere on the stage

[pulsar dew]

you should be able to remove the drone credits too

[old python]

Depends on the character but they're Def worth taking sometimes.. I don't know why I was leaving them no matter what.

[sonic tangle]

bandit and railgunner like it

if you have enough hikers boots you can justify it

also if your damage is low you can pick it up

[wet marsh]

ac giving hikers boots was a crazy buff for lost seers

[old python]

Doesn't even need hikers boots.. if you got enough attack speed/aoe then good enough.

[sonic tangle]

since crit wouldnt help your low damage that much anyway

[old python]

Or this.

[pulsar dew]

oh yeah

[sonic tangle]

deleting elite elder lemurians wkth lost seers is pretty awesome

[sage python]

i think lost seers are pretty aight, but tbf deleting enemies isnt something i find awfully fun

[wet marsh]

its funny when it procs

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[wet marsh]

"holy shit its just gone now"

[old python]

That's already the ror2 lategame lmao.

[sage python]

not that crit is super interesting, lol they are cool to take every so often

[lone wraith]

yeah i will say its not very engaging gameplay cuz with lost seers youre not really hoping to get a cool proc chain anymore, youre just bruteforcing until the enemy randomly dies

[sonic tangle]

i like when i have to burn through all the hp of a halcyonite but it procs on a wisp

[sonic tangle]

oh yeah thats another niche

its somewhat consistently good vs the gilded halcyonite

depending on who youre playing

[wet marsh]

clearly the wisp cant die in 3 commando taps you need the lenses there!

[sage python]

arent halcs immune

[sonic tangle]

nope

[sage python]

or is that only for implosion

[terse fossil]

only the bosses are immune

[sage python]

ah

[jade stone]

0.5% is pretty low tbh

[terse fossil]

so the thing that has the healthbar

[jade stone]

i think crit glasses are better

[wet marsh]

just get 200 of them :3

[sage python]

halcs have the tag for implosion

[sonic tangle]

it is but if you hit often enough itll happen

[old python]

Well all it takes is a single transportation drone anyways so I don't see why they'd do that.

[sonic tangle]

theyre basically just regular enemies

[old python]

It's enough.

[sonic tangle]

unaffected by boss related items and can be bagged/transported/frozen/stunned

[terse fossil]

get a few stacks + 67 leaf clover

[wet marsh]

honestly if they bumped it to 1% for whatever reason it might even be better than lens maker

runic lens is 3% and look at it

[sonic tangle]

runic lens chance ramps up

[wet marsh]

its one of the better reds out there

[terse fossil]

ye but more damage = more chance

[wet marsh]

ough

[sonic tangle]

mhm

[wet marsh]

i keep forgetting about that, but the base is still proccable

[sonic tangle]

if runic lens was just 3% itd be mid in general and hot ass on burst characters

[old python]

Well aren't proc chains already ass on those?

[terse fossil]

ye but you get a high chance on burst characters

[old python]

Mmmm sure.

[pulsar dew]

okay so

somehow, next dlc adds new alt skills for every survivor (including viend because he needs an alt skill or two)

what would you like to see either as an alt skill or to have an alternative

[wet marsh]

for viend?

[pulsar dew]

anyone

[wet marsh]

or for all the other survivors

[acoustic monolith]

yeah that would be nice

[pulsar dew]

probably not anyone from sotv (excluding viend) or beyond but

[acoustic monolith]

Rex mobility skill lol

[wet marsh]

PLEASE give captain not a taser

[worldly haven]

i found out i have skill issue and kept getting bombarded by 10 different enemies when i tried to do artifact of command with swarms and sacrifice, so i'll need to do that combo without command for now

[wet marsh]

idk how busted captain would be with another ability that isnt his taser tbh

[pulsar dew]

the issue is swarms, not command

[wet marsh]

but all the other characters have pretty good secondaries and alt abilities

captain has taser 😔

[vital escarp]

bomb arrow for huntress instead of midllista and mid rain

[worldly haven]

the issue is not swarms, the issue is command

since you're as vulnerable as ever, or even more so within command

[pulsar dew]

greedy

[pulsar dew]

vulnurable

[vital escarp]

both of her special suck!!!!!

[wet marsh]

vulnerable

[pulsar dew]

must be a british thing

[wet marsh]

ballista isnt too bad but shit were comparing it to arrow rain

[worldly haven]

nah, i'm just dyslexic

like fr

[vital escarp]

both of em suck anyway

not like one is better than the other

[pulsar dew]

okay be so fr

[wet marsh]

they might be fr...

[pulsar dew]

2700% damage with a normal proc coef vs like 5 damage with 0 proc ever

[vital escarp]

being so fr rn

[wet marsh]

wait what propaganda is this

[vital escarp]

it's the same damage just less proc

[pulsar dew]

saying "just less proc" like this isnt why engineer only has 1 turret option

[vital escarp]

it isnt tho

[worldly haven]

they could remove arrow rain's damage, replace 1 of the 2 utilities with it and it would be so much better

[vital escarp]

truth nuke

[harsh trout]

you just reinvented the alt railgunner mines but worse

[wet marsh]

god the arrow rain stats are ROUGH

0.2x19??

[harsh trout]

yeeeep

used to be 0.1 lmao

[wet marsh]

what kind of proc coef is that 😭

[vital escarp]

a shitty ass one

[wet marsh]

is that genuinely like the lowest in the game??

[worldly haven]

i use arrow rain almost exclusively for movement

[vital escarp]

nope

[pulsar dew]

the lowest is 0

[wet marsh]

except 0

[pulsar dew]

i have a solution

[vital escarp]

0.1

[wet marsh]

who has 0.1 proc coef

[vital escarp]

it's an item idk which or if im missremembering

[harsh trout]

iirc 0.2 is tied for lowest non-0

[worldly haven]

if the solution is ballista, i don't have ballista

[pulsar dew]

i have a second solution

[worldly haven]

what would that be

[pulsar dew]

1. get ballista
2. use ballista

[vital escarp]

heretic primary

[worldly haven]

it'll happen eventually

[vital escarp]

(the initial hit tho

like when it gets stuck to an enemy

[wet marsh]

the rest is 1 tho

[worldly haven]

oh, third solution, essence of heresy

[wet marsh]

cuz iirc bleed can proc often on her

[vital escarp]

asked what has 0.1 proc coeff and i said what has 0.1 proc coeff 🙄

[wet marsh]

you mentioned initial hit

[harsh trout]

oh ok yeah that's right, acrid and chef lingering damage pools also have 0.1 apparently

[vital escarp]

it IS 0.1 proc coeff

[worldly haven]

@pulsar dew

[wet marsh]

oh

[pulsar dew]

true

[pulsar dew]

SPEAKING of acrid

dude if acrid was a dlc character people would be pissed

[harsh trout]

also the preon sparks have 0.1

[wet marsh]

whys that

not op enough

[pulsar dew]

acrid role be so fr

[wet marsh]

i dont wanna larp merc

also i like acrid my little acid doggo

[fresh idol]

real

[wet marsh]

im just wondering why tho

[pulsar dew]

what loadout do you use

[wet marsh]

not blight

[pulsar dew]

is it melee

[wet marsh]

all default

[golden tide]

I hate gravity.

[pulsar dew]

okay at least youre using the right loadout

[wet marsh]

i use spit why wouldnt i want spit

[golden tide]

Both deaths were due to gravity

[pulsar dew]

acrid kinda just gets to press one (1) button and win every interaction

[fresh idol]

bc Acrid is op

[pulsar dew]

two if theyre especially tanky

[wet marsh]

so is false son and seeker thats what im failing to understand

[fresh idol]

what are you failing to understand?

[wet marsh]

would they be mad because "character op" or what

[fresh idol]

yes

[pulsar dew]

seeker is one of the most popular cases of theyre op so they suck

[wet marsh]

makes sense

[pulsar dew]

honestly

it isnt realy as much of an issue of being op

as it is of being op AND boring

[fresh idol]

well i think Acrid is boring

[harsh trout]

i mean also if we're being fr, if they made acrid as a dlc character he'd probably have some shit like 100 armor during his m1 and 40 meter spread range on the special

[wet marsh]

nah acrid leaps honestly carry the character for me

[pulsar dew]

okay true

[wet marsh]

if he didnt have leaps i wouldnt even touch him

[pulsar dew]

oh yeah the leaps are fun as hell

crazy momentum bullshittery

[fresh idol]

the leaps are one of the stuff that makes him very op

[wet marsh]

i guess even without leaps he'd still be pretty good

[pulsar dew]

yeah he does get to cancel fall damage for free

[wet marsh]

all things considered

[pulsar dew]

actually wait most characters do

[wet marsh]

captain and engie are the only ones that come to mind that cant cancel fall dmg

at least by default

[fresh idol]

he would have a harder time abusing poison bc he has no more reliable way of running away from enemies without leaps

he would at least need some movement speed to reach his "true potential"

i don't find Acrid boring bc i play this way

i find Acrid boring bc he has too much freedom and when he can be melee it's just m1 cancel and bite

i don't really find this fun

[frigid sleet]

oh ok

[errant marsh]

Somewhat unfortunate

[pulsar dew]

okay wait

should i pick the loop variant of the stage so i can get that out of the way

OR should i pick the pre loop variant so theres a chance i dont need to do another run for it

[wet marsh]

maybe i'd do pre loop

you'll probably get to another couple of runs to grab post loop

so try and rng max pre loop

[pulsar dew]

i did it ! thank you mysk

[wet marsh]

did you find the scanner thingy??

[pulsar dew]

yeah !

[wet marsh]

hell yeah

[ionic glacier]

im the worst at aiming them

i leap like, right off the map

[wet marsh]

wherever you point your mouse is where you'll go

you can also control/deviate the positioning of the landing by pressing your movement keys

not that hard to grasp his leap tbh

[haughty crag]

press S to stop midair

good for precise movement

[pulsar dew]

i accidentally angered the newt

do i restart the run and lowkey kms

important

[wet marsh]

ummmm

i dont think newt lets you use the shop again if you anger him right

might as well restart ig you still have a few maps going left

[pulsar dew]

i only have 2 maps left

if i knew it would take like 5+ loops id restart

but the run itself is going strong

yeah i might need to end it all lowk

major inconvenience

i died anyways because solus transporters oneshot you from max health

so like if you ever wanna have fun watch out

[harsh trout]

nah you can use the shop again you just have to come back from a different stage

[pulsar dew]

what the fuck

[haughty crag]

I should do a ror2 run soon

Without some bugfixes mod

I wonder how much jank does vanilla has as of now

[harsh trout]

it's not too bad as long as you don't do the sots path

[haughty crag]

Jank plus gameplay bullshit

Back when I played Solus enemies were a pain in the ass

[frigid sleet]

rex e2 done

[pulsar dew]

problematic bungus gap

[restive pawn]

Bandit x Captain Yaoi should've been canon

[worldly haven]

i'm gonna need to unlock quail

i wanna kobe myself off the map

[restive pawn]

Quail is not that bad

It's first stack and even second stack is really good

Honestly it's the same problem of harpoon

No it's not going to get you killed if you have common sense

Unless you have like 5 stacks of quail but otherwise

[blissful torrent]

harpoon is far more likely to than quail i think, because occasionally you kill one enemy and an atg flies off and kills something else across the map 5 seconds later without you realising

you always have to opt into quail's speed boost

[haughty crag]

engineer's turret only update its item when you place it again

[worldly haven]

you seem to think i am saying quail is bad, it's gonna send me off the edge everytime. but that is not what i am saying. i am saying that i wanna kobe myself off the map

and for that i need quail

[restive pawn]

Oh

[worldly haven]

i am not a quail hater, i'm just a lunatic

[restive pawn]

Woops

[restive pawn]

My favourite quail interaction is the forward Merc double jum

Jump

[rugged cipher]

yeah its quite silly

[sage python]

light flux merc sure is something

rising thunder looks silly

[errant marsh]

W

[trim spruce]

GUESS WHO'S TYPING THIS FROM A NEW PC

[restive pawn]

Me!!

[worldly haven]

me

[trim spruce]

[restive pawn]

Every time you finish a run there's a good chance the survivor got cancer because of the med drones

[cedar coral]

koppen af is genuinely goonworthy

[restive pawn]

True

Same with swanpified mizzle

[cedar coral]

who

[wet marsh]

what if they get resurrected by dios

[cedar coral]

shit yeah 😭

[restive pawn]

Alloyed collective soundtrack

It's the new stage 2 theme

[cedar coral]

but seeing how advanced they are i heavily doubt cancer is a huge deal anymore

[cedar coral]

oo interesting

[wet marsh]

i love the aphelian sanctuary track

[restive pawn]

Stravos is a good composer I hope he's able to get better

[wet marsh]

out of all the dlc it might genuinely be my favourite one

[cedar coral]

he's almost chris level

[restive pawn]

Shih makes me goon fr...

/j might I add

It's a rlly good theme though

[restive pawn]

Sadly almost

[wet marsh]

i dont know the exact names of the tracks but i can name the maps they pop up on

[cedar coral]

goon is an understatement for that one

I just instantly combust

[cedar coral]

ive heard someones first not like ror2 soundtrack is by him so definitely not chris level but hes very VERY close

I wonder how he'll beat om mani padme hum part 1 and 2

[restive pawn]

Once in a lullaby

[cedar coral]

aphelian sanctuary that one

when the music so good I lowk start wasting time

sulfur pools helminth hatchery aphelian sanctuary treeborn colony all culprits of that

[wet marsh]

sulfur pools lowkey gets a hard pass because it fucking sucks

[cedar coral]

actually i died because of that earlier today

[wet marsh]

yes, please kill me xi constructs 🤤

[cedar coral]

I slightly dislike the maps ambience and the FUCKING XI CONSTRUCTS but the music so damn good

[wet marsh]

and also they CLEARLY needed to have solus enemies on that map

[cedar coral]

wdym

[wet marsh]

solus distributors, drills, iirc also oil spillers spawn on sulfur pools

mainly solus distributors im annoyed with

[cedar coral]

I wouldnt know cos im ac-less

[wet marsh]

ohhh my bad sorry

[cedar coral]

I wonder how long its gonna take for me to say that before people start calling me the guy without ac

[wet marsh]

but some of the annoying ac enemies do spawn there

[cedar coral]

oh nws lol

[wet marsh]

hello guy without ac :3

[cedar coral]

there we go

[cedar coral]

so far I've done prismatic trials and all the ac enemies look quite fun to fight

but I couldve sworn there was an enemy that stopped me from opening chests

[wet marsh]

weird

[cedar coral]

I think so anyway

[wet marsh]

i dont think any enemy can do that

[errant marsh]

All of them can actually

[wet marsh]

first one i thought of was invalidator or extractor

[cedar coral]

you what

[errant marsh]

Can't open chests if you're dead

[wet marsh]

they can??

[cedar coral]

ah.

[errant marsh]

Smh

[wet marsh]

ohhhhhh lmao

[lone wraith]

gasoline abuse never gets old

dont worry about the broken watch on stage 2

[golden linden]

i won't worry bro don't worry

[cedar coral]

fair point but there was one enemy that shot something at me and a chest icon with a circle around it appeared at the top of the screen

[lone wraith]

wow a defense nucleus printer

[cedar coral]

stop worrying about me worrying about you not worrying bro I wont worry about you not worrying dont worry

[lone wraith]

now THATS op

[golden linden]

circle around a chest? that's sale star

[cedar coral]

aand now worry looks weird

[pulsar dew]

see i woulda just restarted

[cedar coral]

no like it was an icon at the top of the sfreen

like a border with a purple chest icon

[lone wraith]

why so

[golden linden]

hmmmmm

nothing comes to mind rn

[cedar coral]

if youre playing sear chef and you get a xi construct im sorry for you

[pulsar dew]

broken watch on stage 2

[cedar coral]

and by sorry for you I mean for myself because that fucking sucked

[lone wraith]

i dont need dat

[golden linden]

oil spill would be there for me

[errant marsh]

Alt chef is peak ror2

[restive pawn]

Once in a lullaby that was the name

[golden linden]

bouncing on it with sear xi oil style call that the chili base technique

[cedar coral]

ong

[wet marsh]

invalidator

[errant marsh]

Spur + oil spill is pretty funny

[cedar coral]

I tried

I tried to reach it with oil spill

either my timing was off or it just wasnt high enough, and then I tried climbing on a ledge to jump on top of it and I got blasted off

[cedar coral]

they do that?

[wet marsh]

thats the only enemy besides the alloy vulture that can do that

iirc also normal vultures do that but yeah

[blissful torrent]

i don't think normal vultures do unless they changed them in ac without me realising

[wet marsh]

i genuinely feel like they did change it at some point

might be me misremembering so this could be straight misinfo but before i had all the dlcs i couldve sworn vultures on sirens call disabled my items sometimes

but yeah not a lot of enemies can disable your items (thank god)

[blissful torrent]

i think you might be misremembering

[worldly haven]

what are the top 3 items aside from bungus for the turrets

[blissful torrent]

checked the wiki.gg and it doesn't mention it there at all, and that also seems like a really weird thing for them to add when it's the solus tech that disables your items and alloy vultures' attacks are wind

[terse fossil]

wait what's the difference between alloy vultures and normal vultures

[wet marsh]

bleed, atg probably

bands work too you get multiple cooldowns of bands

since they dont work on the same cd

[blissful torrent]

shuriken is needed for bands tho

or, well, for consistent band procs

otherwise you need a proc chain

[golden linden]

shuriken, lysate cell, sdp

[blissful torrent]

oh yea lysate is great if you have sotv

you can just have a third turret

[wet marsh]

but only one lysate

[cedar coral]

normal vultures???

[wet marsh]

subsequent stacks doesnt do anything other than replace your sentries

[cedar coral]

since when did birds of prey exist in ror2

[golden linden]

they dont

[wet marsh]

you also lose fuel cell which could be bad with some equipment choices

[terse fossil]

i mean extra lysate cells aren't even bad if you need to spam the turrets

[cedar coral]

exist?

[terse fossil]

ye i'm pretty sure they don't

[cedar coral]

ah

[blissful torrent]

if you have mobile turrets then speed items are great too

[cedar coral]

so youre telling me alloy vultures can prevent you from opening chests

[blissful torrent]

especially since engi is immobile

[wet marsh]

except wungus and soda since they cant sprint :3

[blissful torrent]

that icon doesn't stop you from opening chests, it means your items have been temporarily disabled

[cedar coral]

sweet jesus thats awful

[blissful torrent]

mobile turrets actually can sprint! they just rarely do it unless they're really far away from you

[cedar coral]

imagine you get hit while in the air with headstompers

[robust plume]

Wait that's the vultures??? I thought that was the Solus invalidators firing the purple bombs

[blissful torrent]

it is invalidators

[cedar coral]

apparently vultures can do it too

[blissful torrent]

mysk is misremembering i think

[cedar coral]

apparently

[wet marsh]

my bad guys im john misinformation

[cedar coral]

oh ok

[robust plume]

I have never had my items disabled by vultures there is no eay

[blissful torrent]

i'm 99% sure alloy vultures can't do it

[wet marsh]

😔

sorry

[cedar coral]

no worries im john education

[blissful torrent]

sorry, i'm john gearbox, i will be eating your risk of rain 2

[wet marsh]

oh noooooo

[cedar coral]

dont make me get my brother john hopoo on you

wont be pretty

[blissful torrent]

mmmm crunchy loss streak

[robust plume]

Brother hoopoo is watching

[cedar coral]

wow now that youve mentioned it how bad is my current loss streak

[robust plume]

Five billion deaths

[cedar coral]

most recent loss was this stupid one in the morning where I was taking ages to decide which of three really good green items I should pick

[robust plume]

Fucking GONE LMAO

[cedar coral]

NOT EVEN A CHANCE TO REACT

[errant marsh]

Gang just take the fucking atg 😭

[cedar coral]

in the greater wisp's defence I wasnt paying attention to ANYTHING but the items

[cedar coral]

i was considering chrono because I had death mark

[blissful torrent]

bauble yea

so you could actually proc your death mark

[robust plume]

"mercenary is invincible" mfs when they have to be invincible:

[blissful torrent]

if i'm counting right you had bleed, burn and tar

[cedar coral]

oh an ofc I died on 67 minutes

[cedar coral]

exposed counted towards it as I noticed

[blissful torrent]

OH YEA OF COURSE

[cedar coral]

maybe i should've just taken the atg 😭😭

[blissful torrent]

i'd still go bauble tbh because you aren't getting any gas value in mithrix so you need another debuff regardless

[cedar coral]

that was a fun run too mannnnn

[cedar coral]

oh good point

anyway I have a good impression of merc now

just added him to my roles

[robust plume]

Hi Mr. Gearbox sir i have some feedback regarding The Loader from risk of rain 2

[cedar coral]

lmfao

nahhh shes fine

double meaning there btw

[robust plume]

you´re

[cedar coral]

your taking too long

[pearl summit]

Loader already bad as fuck

[cedar coral]

this

my brother just another me

[robust plume]

i agree it was just the first thing that came to mind

[cedar coral]

valid valid

[robust plume]

i mean tbf

[blissful torrent]

there's a mod for this!