ror2-discussion

[golden linden]

i find funny people that get goofy over chai tea

or pita bread

the same way if I say katana, I'd imagine you understand that I am talking about a traditional shaped 1 edged sword

and not just saying sword in japanese

the same way people say chai to refer to the indian traditional tea, and not to say "tea tea"

[spare saddle]

why that one?

[vital escarp]

peter bread

peter breadfin

[golden linden]

the mc rib is back

[remote birch]

Woag simulacrum is really fun

[robust plume]

you were right actually this was mad easy

[uneven sun]

ror2 is my fav game

[robust plume]

best merc loadout?

[vital escarp]

1111

or 1122

or 1121

[robust plume]

focused or blinding assault?

[vital escarp]

It depends on your taste

personally i prefer focused

[clear ferry]

2121

[livid idol]

That's really funny to me as someone who works in a coffee shop cause I serve chai on the daily

[vital escarp]

ew you w*rk

[livid idol]

Mhmm

[vital escarp]

ewwwww

ick

[clear ferry]

today i was selling naan

[livid idol]

But I need money to feed my plushie needs

[spare saddle]

sorry what was that? cant hear you over the money im making

[vital escarp]

most real shi ever

[vital escarp]

catfishing>>>

[livid idol]

I need her to sit on my desk

[robust plume]

he doesnt have an alternate primary what

[golden linden]

10 shurikens merc

[vital escarp]

who is she??? looks cuteee

[errant marsh]

Best merc loadout

[clear ferry]

made it up

[golden linden]

I used to be a visions of heresy merc back on ea

when he didn't have expose

[robust plume]

LMAO

[clear ferry]

mine

[errant marsh]

He used to not have expose 😭

[vital escarp]

ea game company huh

[livid idol]

I need teto and miku plushies too....

[errant marsh]

That sounds awful 😭

[livid idol]

Adachi is also cool

[remote birch]

Would you like to zoom around the map and have the time of your life or actually be productive

[golden linden]

it was worse than what we have now yes

[clear ferry]

thank you

[golden linden]

but it wasn't bad, it was stale

[livid idol]

Grenadier rabbit from rabbit and steel

[vital escarp]

flint and steel

[livid idol]

I could also get heavyblade since she's back in stock

But grenadier speaks to me more

[golden linden]

is she from dlc

[clear ferry]

i have three new plushies on the way now

[worldly haven]

how many raccoons has bandit adopted

[livid idol]

I mean it was free dlc but yeah

[spare saddle]

all

[golden linden]

cool

[livid idol]

Anyway this is heavyblade

[golden linden]

i always like when there are firearms in a magical settinh

[vital escarp]

looks like a little human with those russian hats

[golden linden]

not a lot of media can pull it off

[vital escarp]

and a pair of antennas

[livid idol]

She goes pew pew and throws a grenade its awesome

[clear ferry]

media to consume

[golden linden]

they call me the consumer

[worldly haven]

i think it's done well in irregular and asterisk war

[livid idol]

Probably one of my favorite to play just because her gameplay loop is satisfying

[clear ferry]

pebble

[golden linden]

never heard of it, lemme search

[worldly haven]

that's 2 animes

[livid idol]

You use your primary until you run out of ammo, secondary to reload, and defensive to immediately cancel the reload so it's instant, and your special is a solid aoe that you can augment with special and defensive upgrades

[worldly haven]

the irregular of the magic academy

[clear ferry]

do you like adachi?

[livid idol]

That sounds like a very generic anime title ngl, lemme look it up and see if i kmow it

[livid idol]

I'd say so

[clear ferry]

you are held high

[remote birch]

The science fantasy genre (not scifi that's different, this is scifi plus fantasy) has a lot of that and it's usually really good

[worldly haven]

it's a very good anime

i forgot if it has 1 or 2 spin offs

[livid idol]

I like a lot of different voicebanks, i have miku teto neru gumi eleanor adachi yi xi sfa2 miki all in my playlist :)

[livid idol]

I recognize the characters, don't think i watched it though

[worldly haven]

add it to the list

[livid idol]

I don't really watch anime but I'll think about it

[golden linden]

didn't like how asterisk looked but this irregular one I'll give a chance

[golden linden]

ye

[clear ferry]

thats good, i like adachi, kafu, type t, miku, zundamon a lot

and kokichi

[livid idol]

Why is the first thing i see kafu wise upon looking them up drinking gasoline

[clear ferry]

its a newer post

i havent heard it yet i think

[livid idol]

I mean I wouldn't call over a year ago that new

[clear ferry]

my framing of time is poor

[livid idol]

Its all good

[terse ferry]

doc is long

annnd this is cleanup with m1 cancelling

[livid idol]

So yeah it was roughly what i remembered

About equal but cleanup outputs it faster (in a single target situation anyhow which is usually what i care about)

[worldly haven]

how many cats does artificer have

[terse ferry]

7

[remote birch]

1 and it's a siamese

[livid idol]

Also hi goobessa!

[terse ferry]

hello bordurn!

[clear ferry]

hi

[unreal quiver]

[clear ferry]

u like inabakumori?

[pulsar dew]

did they fix the mul-t glitchyet

[livid idol]

We havent had an update since december

So uh

[pulsar dew]

it was worth a hope

[clear ferry]

hope..

[sacred elk]

Pain and suffering

[clear ferry]

despair..

[sacred elk]

The 1000 tech issues of subnautica 2

[pulsar dew]

h,,,

[round loom]

What dlc is the character with the bag that can catch enemies in

[pulsar dew]

do i use the hc tech engineer skin cuz it gives him kitty paws

[pulsar dew]

alloyed collective

[sacred elk]

I’ve never even heard of an application hanging itself

[round loom]

Ok thanks

[clear ferry]

it happens to me all the time

its kind of gross

[sacred elk]

“The application has hung itself. We apologize for the inconvenience”

What do you mean the application hung itself

[round loom]

How do i unlock engineer fast

[sacred elk]

Do the first stage over and over again

[round loom]

Ok

[pulsar dew]

this loadout sucks dookie butt™ i just dont wanna use the other ability

[sacred elk]

You mean the good ability operator is known for

[pulsar dew]

exactly!

besides all of his base abilities are better than his alt abilities

[sacred elk]

True…

[clear ferry]

i like operator

[pulsar dew]

sotv is so good looking

all of the dlcs are (maybe sans ac) but sotv especially

[round loom]

What dlc is operator in

[pulsar dew]

also ac

[sacred elk]

Alloyed collective

What is sans ac

[livid idol]

I personally run crossdoc but heavy respect for firewall useage

[round loom]

Which dlc should i buy first

[sacred elk]

Void

[pulsar dew]

what the hell

[sacred elk]

Me when I get shot dead for posting 4 images at once

[pulsar dew]

bullshit

1 image is bigger than 4 images

[sacred elk]

See for yourself

[livid idol]

survivors of the void, it gives you the most bang for your buck, and almost all of the content is on the main path, which is what you'll play a lot of while unlocking stuff

[pulsar dew]

oh okay hold on

[sacred elk]

It won’t delete 3 but it’ll kill 4

[pulsar dew]

BNO im not gonna nayways what am i missing

[round loom]

Dlc makes the game harder?

[livid idol]

repurposed crater I think

[livid idol]

kinda

[pulsar dew]

plus these 3

and this one

[livid idol]

you get more items to have more synergies with which makes you stronger, but enemy variety can make things harder too

[pulsar dew]

arguable, AC definitely does

sotv would make things easier ifit wasnt for THem

[livid idol]

seekers of the storm is the only one that i'd say generally makes it easier because of stage 1

[round loom]

So i should buy ac last?

[pulsar dew]

my unwoke opinion is

yes because its the most recently published dlc

you should buy all dlcs in order and preferably all at once

[round loom]

Ok

[pulsar dew]

but . thats stupid dont do that

[livid idol]

I personally would go sotv, ac, sots

I think seekers of the storm while not bad in its current state is the weakest dlc

[pulsar dew]

whats this enemy btw

[sacred elk]

solus transporter

[round loom]

On playstation the game is almost 2 times cheaper than any dlc rn i need to wait for like summer sale or smth

[sacred elk]

the ones that do the explosion that pulls you in

[clear ferry]

lesser wisp?

[sacred elk]

no its an ac enemy

[pulsar dew]

okay

am i missing anything from sotv

[sacred elk]

its the only ac enemy that doesnt get spammed every 3 seconds

[pulsar dew]

because if i can turn a dlc off to not need to loop nearly as much

[sonic tangle]

invalidators

extractors

[pulsar dew]

its unlock run time

[sacred elk]

those mfs still spawn every 6 seconds

why am i a cow getting abducted

[pulsar dew]

but thats what losers think

also im using engineer so having the extra sentry is totally useful enough

[clear ferry]

i need to do this

still dont have sots and ac unlocks

[pulsar dew]

heres what i ended up with

[clear ferry]

a few of them

[pulsar dew]

im gonna spam the fuck outta clovers

no swarm cuz im not a pussy

[clear ferry]

i see

[spare bobcat]

You say that, yet I see command

[clear ferry]

is that projection?

[pulsar dew]

yeah i still need to do the optimized run so that i can get unlocks without slaving away for 5 thousand years

but im not a pussy about it

im only a loser about it

i dont need to further "optimize" by adding swarms

[iron palm]

"do the halcyon shrine every time its so worth it"
spends 4 minutes charging it
gets a leeching seed a bison steak and a topaz brooch

yep, so worth it

[sonic tangle]

4 minutes what happened

[iron palm]

its almost like getting 300 gold on stage 1 takes an obscenely long time

i understand wanting to gamble heavily on the first stage since you dont really lose much if you end up low rolling on a huge gamble on stage 1 but yeah

if it ends up giving you jack shit youre better off restarting lmao

[sonic tangle]

it doesnt take 4 minutes it can take as little as 2

[pulsar dew]

btw uh

[sonic tangle]

actually no as little as 1

[pulsar dew]

what item should i give to my artifact of rebirth after im done with this run

[vital escarp]

clover

[pulsar dew]

okay but thats like

[sonic tangle]

halcyon shrines take 1 minute to charge if you have all the money

[pulsar dew]

Worthless .

[sonic tangle]

depending on how you loot you might have all the money

[vapid dagger]

It takes an average of like 3 minutes to get 300 moneys on stage 1

Longer for eclipse

[sonic tangle]

depending on where its located i can usually weave the halcyon shrine into my looting and do 7 minutes no problem

[vapid dagger]

I remember omega did some testing earlier out of curiosity and i think thats kind of the average he came to

[iron palm]

i wonder if playing on typhoon affects this since 25% more monsters spawn but they drop 20% less gold

you would think it would be the same overall since 1.25x0.8=1

[vapid dagger]

Well due to the way eclipse rounds prespawn beetle money down

I think it comes out a bit lower

And eclipse 6 is just straight up -20% money from enemies too

[cedar coral]

guh

[sacred elk]

Wee

[vital escarp]

woo

[vivid ember]

What did you just say

[iron palm]

huh

[vital escarp]

kuh

[sacred elk]

Muh

[pulsar dew]

if a log drops but i dotn pick it up

can it drop on a different stage from the same enemy

[vast tinsel]

nah

you're cooked

[pulsar dew]

should i lowk kms

[vast tinsel]

no

[pulsar dew]

should i HIGHk kms

[vast tinsel]

no

[pulsar dew]

should i midkey kms

[vast tinsel]

no

[pulsar dew]

what about middlekey

it should mean the same thing as midkey but because of evolving language mid and middle have taken on a new meaning

[cedar coral]

I have to memorise sundered grove legendary spawns next time I play the game

im not wasting another 10 minutes searching

[vast cypress]

the final prismatic trial boss is hell as merc 😭

[sonic tangle]

theres 5 spots

and glowing mushrooms where it is

[cedar coral]

I can only bother searching for two of them

also remind me not to pick up shaped glass on merc

maybe i was just being an idiot here asking too long to decide what item

but jesus christ man

[sonic tangle]

the answer is atg

[cedar coral]

I was gonna pick chrono cos death mark

but then theres regenerating scrap for commencement cauldrons

[sonic tangle]

atg

[cedar coral]

and then atg is just a good item

[sonic tangle]

yeah that death was on you

[cedar coral]

sighh

[fresh scarab]

I think the enemies should’ve been dealt with beforehand

swing by the tri shop, see what’s inside, and keep moving, considering later what you want to grab

[cedar coral]

yh lol

[fresh scarab]

hell, maybe even wait to full loot all chests and chance shrines before making an informed decision

or a chance at a card to just get all three and eliminate the choice

[pure axle]

dont kill yourself, kill me instead

[harsh crater]

I wonder why golems have skeletons, i mean what is even the purpose of it, as far as i can see they have the ability to slightly separate their limbs and put it in segments

[pulsar dew]

okay but i have less to live for

i need to do a SECOND unlock run after this one

[pure axle]

nuh uh i have less

[pulsar dew]

fucking hate solus bullshitters

these assholes

[cedar coral]

why did I get so unlucky with this prismatic trial

[pulsar dew]

making me do a whole new run to unlock their logbook just so i can never read it

[thorn geyser]

guys just unlocked this skin do u think it is the hardest skin to get in the new dlc i am currently trying to get all the skin from the dlc alloyed collective

[pulsar dew]

oh no thats like

the easiest one lol

[fresh scarab]

trying to get ?

[pulsar dew]

id say the hardest is loader maybe? maybe captain maybe rex

[thorn geyser]

bruh it was really hard for me

[pulsar dew]

acrid is arguably easier

[pulsar dew]

whats your loadout

[thorn geyser]

default

[pulsar dew]

yeah thats your issue

go unlock desperado

[sharp skiff]

What's the name of the item you get from the pre-final dlc boss ?

[pulsar dew]

and also blast, blast is usually worse but its very good against solus heart

[thorn geyser]

i have it lol

[pulsar dew]

well sotp being masochistic ‼️

[sonic tangle]

nay

[thorn geyser]

lol i just forgot about that

[sonic tangle]

lights out is based

[pulsar dew]

i dont care how based it is

[thorn geyser]

one of the most beautiful skin in migh opion

[pulsar dew]

bandit cooldowns are short as hell as is

[cedar coral]

yh

[pulsar dew]

i agree

[sonic tangle]

nah lights out is a competitive choice

[pulsar dew]

all of the "accept" skins are beautiful

[fresh scarab]

Encrypted Cerebellum?

[sonic tangle]

its better than desperado in rush runs

[cedar coral]

fym iron auroras i dont even have the dlc

[thorn geyser]

what is the difference between desperado and light out

[cedar coral]

ughh

[thorn geyser]

never checked the description

[sonic tangle]

read them !

[sharp skiff]

yeah that one, doesn't the opened thing spoil what happens if you accept the thing of the solus heart or whatever?

[fresh scarab]

they’re both functionally exactly the same, except:

• Light’s Out resets cooldowns on kill
• Desperado adds 10% damage to itself on kill

[thorn geyser]

ho cool that is op

[sharp skiff]

Same range too right?

[fresh scarab]

exactly the same everything except for the on-kill effect

[pulsar dew]

oh and desperado has slayer

[fresh scarab]

the Slayer effect is also very strong

[sonic tangle]

important to note that lights out resets cooldowns and also all charges

[pulsar dew]

lights out? also has slayer

[sonic tangle]

and desperado resets its damage boost when progressing stages

[thorn geyser]

i really light out because u can littery fly if u spam smoke bomb and light out

[sonic tangle]

its fun

i find lights out ten times more fun than desperado

[fresh scarab]

Slayer increases the damage of the attack by 2% for every 1% health the enemy is missing

[thorn geyser]

yeah

[sonic tangle]

and not that much worse

but generally speaking

[fresh scarab]

so an hitting an enemy at half hp with an ability that has Slayer will do double damage

[sonic tangle]

desperado is better for regular pace runs

lights out is better for rush runs

which are difficult

[fresh scarab]

it’s important to note that items that proc off abilities that have Slayer will not receive this damage bonus and will act as if Slayer does not exist

[cedar coral]

FYM BLAZING VOID JAILER

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[thorn geyser]

i tend to rush my run because i have a really bad pc

[sonic tangle]

items that proc off lights out or desperado also wont grant the on kill effect if they land the kill except brilliant behemoth

[vast cypress]

NO DUDE

[sonic tangle]

when i say rush run i mean skipping a few chests to go faster

[vast cypress]

FRICK I DIED RIGHT AS I WAS ABOUT TO GET THE MERC PRESMATIC TRIAL ACHIEVMENT

[sonic tangle]

and having like a 5 minute or less time per stage

[pulsar dew]

well at least you got that far

[pulsar dew]

#that #asshole recommended this to new players btw

[sonic tangle]

lmaoo

[pulsar dew]

i have 450 hours and i just go for 1 item a minute

[sonic tangle]

i call it the 5 minute challenge because its a challenge

[thorn geyser]

i can only do like 2 loop with my pc

[sonic tangle]

loops dont rly matter

[cedar coral]

im doing it too lmao

[sonic tangle]

what matters between a standard and rush run is time taken per stage

[vast cypress]

this run's the best

[fresh scarab]

my pc can handle basically anything ROR2 throws at me…

except Deus Ex + Electric Boomerang with any on hit projectile item

[vast cypress]

except for the final teleporter

[sonic tangle]

though a long run deep into a loop usually prefers desperado

[thorn geyser]

i really like the special stage when u do a loop

[sonic tangle]

though it usually doesnt matter

[thorn geyser]

i take 10 min per stage

[cedar coral]

yo

[fresh scarab]

you would think so
however your damage is so high that your special really doesn’t matter anymore and you just shoot everything with your primary

[cedar coral]

did it really have to be glass

[fresh scarab]

usually that’ll kill in 1-2 shots

[vast cypress]

time doesnt matter as long as you're looting

[sonic tangle]

yeah i did say that afterwards

[cedar coral]

along with void jailer

[sonic tangle]

its nearly a non factor

[fresh scarab]

Light’s Out is just a more engaging ability for me

[sonic tangle]

yuh uh

[fresh scarab]

it also lets me do this

[sonic tangle]

one of my favorite skills in the game by far

[sonic tangle]

grahhh

[pulsar dew]

fuck sorta ror2 are you playing

yes i know its mods

[sonic tangle]

meanwhile me with my serrated dagger

[pulsar dew]

shiv is better

[sonic tangle]

i prefer dagger

[pulsar dew]

thats fair

[fresh scarab]

I’ve got a lot of mods but I’ve made it a point to keep core gameplay mostly unchanged

[sonic tangle]

same

[thorn geyser]

what is really good with bandit is that u can escape fall dammage and use dagger

[pulsar dew]

i think dagger is better for looping

which you shouldnt really do as bandit

[fresh scarab]

the biggest changes to gameplay I have is Quality and ScorchWormTweaks

[sonic tangle]

the only mod i have that isnt qol or a survivor mod is fathomless voidling

[vast cypress]

i lost another damageless prismatic trial run

[pulsar dew]

you can use shiv too

[sonic tangle]

quality was too non vanilla for me

[fresh scarab]

also Umbral

[sonic tangle]

i should try umbral

[thorn geyser]

never try it ii will try later

[cedar coral]

this merc prismatic trial challenge is going to make me fucking insane

[fresh scarab]

I reached a point in playing the game where, once I got to Mithrix, I knew I would always win and it was never a challenge

so I upgraded to Umbral and I’m glad I did

[thorn geyser]

should i try Starstorm2 mod

[vast cypress]

not recommended if you wanna keep your sanity

[sonic tangle]

its quite different form the base game i think you should play more of the base game first

[vast cypress]

yea sure it feels like a smaller dlc

[fresh scarab]

SS2 is awesome but I don’t like the in run content as much as the survivors

[thorn geyser]

yeah sure still have not unlocked rex

[fresh scarab]

they’re definitely the highlight of it for me

[sonic tangle]

i wanna be able to play the survivors without the rest of the content

[vast cypress]

i still havent gotten the second survivor what is he even about

[sonic tangle]

but id have to unlock the survivors

[thorn geyser]

wait really i saw it add a lot of thing like boss and event

[fresh scarab]

which ones do you have right now

[vast cypress]

it does add that

[sonic tangle]

its big but every dlc in this game is big

[vast cypress]

uh the first one they give you for free

[fresh scarab]

Executioner

[vast cypress]

wait dont tell me that there is more than 2

[sonic tangle]

[thorn geyser]

any tips for unlocking rex the only survivor i dont have

[fresh scarab]

currently there are 4 in the main mod, but in the beta there are…
more

[sonic tangle]

you can swap fuel array out for another equipment during a stage

[vast cypress]

artifact of command could help here

[sonic tangle]

just remmeber to pick it back up again

[vast cypress]

also artifact of glass if you know how to dodge

[cedar coral]

it is NOT

[vast cypress]

how

[thorn geyser]

smart

[thorn geyser]

yeah it so op

[cedar coral]

we got a horde of many void barnacle and a blazing void jailer

[sonic tangle]

glass is a death sentence for new players

[cedar coral]

alongside glass

[vast cypress]

dude you dont have to fight all of them

[fresh scarab]

I personally dislike pushing the difficulty of the game to unreasonable extremes

[cedar coral]

wdym

[vast cypress]

there are 3 crytsals you'll find on your way to your teleporter which is just enough

[sonic tangle]

what would be the unreasonable extreme in ror2

[vast cypress]

destroy them then run for your life

[fresh scarab]

I know there are plenty of people who seemingly enjoy it, but it’s not for me

[cedar coral]

I thought you only destroyed the time crystals so you could start the teleporter

[thorn geyser]

guys how much time took u for 100% the game

[vast cypress]

you do

[cedar coral]

wdym you dont have to fight them

is it the same with the jailer on the second stage

[sonic tangle]

i havent yet lol

[vast cypress]

the faster you do it the less enemies you'll have to fight since they wont have time to spawn

[fresh scarab]

there’s a specific difficulty I remember that added way too much shit, even up to giving the enemies many potent items

[cedar coral]

100% meaning all achievements including survivor ones?

[fresh scarab]

on top of many added modifiers

[cedar coral]

ik

[thorn geyser]

yeah

[fresh scarab]

was it Armageddon?

[vast cypress]

im missing a single achievement with over 100+ hours

[cedar coral]

eesh

[sonic tangle]

i think so

[fresh scarab]

that’s obviously on the extreme end

[sonic tangle]

wdyt of e8 then

[thorn geyser]

what achivment ?

[cedar coral]

I have 200 hours and Im not going to bother getting all survivor achievements

[sonic tangle]

i dont play e8 because im more casual and just like monsoon how it is

[thorn geyser]

i have like 72h

[sage python]

is that a question for koda or for in general?

[cedar coral]

damn

[sonic tangle]

you can asnwer if you want

[vast cypress]

there is an alternate gamemode called prismatic trials, you have to beat this gamemode as merc (if you know who merc is)

without getting hit

[thorn geyser]

is it possible lol

[vast cypress]

it is but VERY difficult im currently trying to do it

[thorn geyser]

good luck 🍀

[cedar coral]

ive been trying with safer spaces and topaz brooch

[fresh scarab]

Eclipse is obviously flawed, but for a vanilla system, I think the meaningful modifiers gradually acclimate you into playing better

[cedar coral]

but glass makes it harder to get the value out of brooch

[thorn geyser]

yeah could work but u need a lot of safer space

[cedar coral]

yh

[vast cypress]

ok no glass really helps you

[cedar coral]

plus theres a blazing void jailer on the second stage

[sonic tangle]

eclipse is fun on occasion

[vast cypress]

you just need to find the right time

[cedar coral]

id rather not have it

so I could kill loads of enemies for loads of barrier

[fresh scarab]

I haven’t tried the beta for it yet, but the storms system for SS2 is an interesting mechanic where you get a random temporary difficulty spike mid run

[sonic tangle]

sounds fun

[fresh scarab]

I don’t like how it’s executed in regular SS2 however

[vast cypress]

idk man its my favourite artifact and as long as you could dodge there is nothing stopping you

[fresh scarab]

where it’s just a movement speed check

[thorn geyser]

yeah anyway gn guys

[cedar coral]

gn bro

[vast cypress]

also speaking of that

[cedar coral]

eh

[vast cypress]

uh yes its possibly the worse boss they couldve chosen

[cedar coral]

like oh my god bro

[vast cypress]

id rather fight mithrix there dude

[cedar coral]

SAME

[vast cypress]

perfected mithrix too

[cedar coral]

I can 100% no hit mithrix with glass

[fresh scarab]

that’s because it’s easier to keep track of one enemy than a dozen or so

[vast cypress]

i literally beat the final boss then died to the stupid stone giants

[vast cypress]

you're not really tracking anyone other than void jailer here

but you do have like 4 different snipers trying to kill you so

[sonic tangle]

void jailer may be the hardest non champion enemy yeah

[fresh scarab]

so there’s 5 main enemies
to keep track of

[cedar coral]

wild

[sonic tangle]

i havent been killed by one just because theyre so rare

[cedar coral]

those things are FODDER

[cedar coral]

non champion?

[vast cypress]

they cant shut up and what makes this worse is that they are guranteed to spawn

[fresh scarab]

I don’t think void jailers are difficult enemies
I think their root attack is dangerous
staying still is bad

[cedar coral]

fair

[sonic tangle]

boss

[cedar coral]

theyre not difficult if youre not using glass

[vast cypress]

can you do me a favour and try the new prismatic trial as any melee survivor?

[cedar coral]

ah

[fresh scarab]

I’m a few hundred miles away from home

[vast cypress]

aw

[fresh scarab]

what I recommend you do is watch Cabbage’s video

[vast cypress]

i did

and i did the same but died right as i was about to get teleported

[fresh scarab]

that means you’ve nearly got it down

[vast cypress]

its just the second teleporter that sucks

[fresh scarab]

and you’re almost there

[vast cypress]

well kinda

im trying to get the hang of it yea but its really not easy

[cedar coral]

ive had so many stupid deaths now

[vast cypress]

the elder lum killed me so many times

[fresh scarab]

when I did my Ethereal I got quite lucky

there was a spawn on the first stage for me to use on the second boss

[cedar coral]

on the trial?

[vast cypress]

wow

[vast cypress]

yea

[cedar coral]

LUCKY as hell

best you get for this one is gorags opus

[vast cypress]

😭

[pulsar dew]

hey so uh

[fresh scarab]

bummer

[cedar coral]

so ass

[pulsar dew]

give me stupid survivor tier lists to make im bored !

[cedar coral]

hm

[fresh scarab]

we’ve done this already at some point but we’ll see how you approach it
each survivor’s go-to breakfast

[cedar coral]

do one on each survivors sexual preferences

[fresh scarab]

no you would start a war

[cedar coral]

drifter is lesbian

[vast cypress]

ok wish me luck ill start with the second teleporter

[pulsar dew]

before i start this list

[cedar coral]

gl bro

[cedar coral]

valid

[pulsar dew]

see this ones easy

hell i think i did it before

[cedar coral]

really lol

[fresh scarab]

let me see if I can find the one we did before

[vast cypress]

NOO I DIED AFTER KILLING THE BOSS

[cedar coral]

HOW 😭

[vast cypress]

stone golems stink

[cedar coral]

ah

[vast cypress]

they snipe you after killing their boss

[cedar coral]

wait what

wdym

[sage python]

its cool that its there and does its job well for the most part, but i dont enjoy the strategies it pushes and some of the modifiers, like e1 especially, feel arbitrary

[vast cypress]

after killing void jailer, you still have to survive the stone golems

[sonic tangle]

e1 sucks yeah

[cedar coral]

cant you just use the teleporter

[sage python]

i see why people like ot, but i dont really see it as the answer to wanting an extra difficulty cause the means the extra difficulty is applied is so different to the steps between the main mode diffs

[vast cypress]

they're super fast and there is still a blackhole after you

[vast cypress]

it takes a bit to teleport you

[cedar coral]

ah

[vast cypress]

which is why i died

[sonic tangle]

the more i think about it the more i feel its the worst modifier

i can understand every other one

[sage python]

i dont even see the vision behind it

[sonic tangle]

e1 is nonsensical

[sage python]

what is it meant to do

[vast cypress]

eh i think of it as just moonson

[pulsar dew]

im debating on a few of these

[sonic tangle]

if it was something like 'non player specific allies -100% healing' thatd be one thing

[vast cypress]

#ror-memes-archive message

[cedar coral]

bro

[vast cypress]

arti should see this one

[cedar coral]

commando is STRAIGHTTT

[sage python]

i think eclipse is pretty bad on paper but in practise it offers something cool

[cedar coral]

also what does objectum mean

[vast cypress]

also wdym commando is bi 😭

[pulsar dew]

hes too small to be straight

[cedar coral]

I think seeker is aroace also

that means youre not attracted to anyone right

[pulsar dew]

not sexually or romantically attracted

[cedar coral]

yeah seeker is def aroace imo

[pulsar dew]

well you see

hydroflix linked proof otherwise

im mostly joking besides this is my Take on things

[vast cypress]

uh so the game displayed that i took fall damage but i didnt lose any health

[cedar coral]

lol

[vast cypress]

i linked proof otherwise

[sage python]

move rex to married couple

[pulsar dew]

it can be both

[sage python]

true

[cedar coral]

what does objectum mean btw

[vast cypress]

died right as i was about to finish the boss

[pulsar dew]

i could go more specific probably

[vast cypress]

what song should i put on 👀

[pulsar dew]

attracted to objects instead of people

[fresh scarab]

this is what we had settled on about 7 months ago

[pulsar dew]

drifter im debating on operator i am not

[cedar coral]

operator makes sense but I think drifter is lesbian

[pulsar dew]

oh yeah she totally would skip breakfast

[pulsar dew]

lesbian objetum

[cedar coral]

yup

[pulsar dew]

yeah ill think about that a bit

[sage python]

how do people even headcanon sexuality like that? /gen

[pulsar dew]

because i like the game and picturing any of them as straight (except merc) hurts me

[cedar coral]

going off looks and lore

[pulsar dew]

i want to relate to them . becasue i am autistic .

[vast cypress]

gah i got damaged a bit agyer the boss started

[cedar coral]

rip

[pulsar dew]

merc though? hes reddit katana guy except for the fact that he kills high ranking officials

[cedar coral]

take a brooch

[fresh scarab]

Captain is either with girilfailure Arti or mega gay gay homo gay homo homo gay

no middle ground for this server

[pulsar dew]

arti is 100% a girlfailure thank you for saying that

[cedar coral]

girlfailiure?

[pulsar dew]

pathetic

[pulsar dew]

and also a girl

[cedar coral]

never heard of it

[sage python]

wait....................

[pulsar dew]

captain is the type to ticktock heavy like im

[sage python]

that makes sense

thank you and me too

[pulsar dew]

hell yeah

[sage python]

i just want everyone to be in cool sci fi armour and not to have a focus on character so i can relate

[fresh scarab]

I just remembered I had this in the back of a folder

[vast cypress]

oh my god i keep dying at that final boss

[cedar coral]

what the FUCK is this

[sage python]

risk of rain is a goldmine for that, thank you hopoo

[vast cypress]

gang 😭

[fresh scarab]

some straight BULLSHIT!!!!

[cedar coral]

agree

[cedar coral]

how do you avoid void jailer pull

[vast cypress]

save your special for that

or kill him before he does it

[cedar coral]

what if specials down

[fresh scarab]

the only funny risk of rain tiktok I’ve seen

[vast cypress]

um pray

[cedar coral]

I want to know how to dodge it in case im not on merc

[cedar coral]

cool 😭

[pulsar dew]

redo, i have accidentally removed all of the bi people

[fresh scarab]

Arti definitely forces Commando to put on cat ears

[pulsar dew]

and one of them reaps the rewards . idk who tho

as in one of the others

would viend x commando be selfcest

[vast cypress]

I DID IT

[fresh scarab]

no

[vast cypress]

OH MY GOD FINALLY

ive never been more satisfied for seeing an achievement

[fresh scarab]

Commando is a title, not a person, in fact all of the survivor names are titles

[sage python]

except rex and acrid

[sonic tangle]

almost

[fresh scarab]

REX is a nickname

it’s a shortened version of it’s serial number

[sage python]

yah

[fresh scarab]

rex0ch12d66m and then some more characters

we don’t get the full thing

[vast cypress]

oh my god ok this was totally worth it

[vast cypress]

what about john

john isnt a title

[sonic tangle]

is operator a job title or is there only one

[terse ferry]

hello rorcordians

[sage python]

operator is a job title

[sonic tangle]

like a droneman job

[sage python]

hi goobessa !!!!

[sonic tangle]

just that our operator is cool because he has cybernetics

[fresh scarab]

it can be assumed that there are multiple Operators

[sage python]

drones are for usage on ships, they werent cargo

except maybe tc 280

idk if this is fully true after ac actually, lemme check the logs

[fresh scarab]

TC280 is very clearly a military grade drone

[vast cypress]

ok that merc achievement was totally worth it

wait i think that ive 100% the main game

[sage python]

ok yeah it seems they may not all be ues now

[fresh scarab]

what if we made Eviscerate…
ranged…
also we gave it Expose for whatever reason :P

[sage python]

gunner drones were security on the cl at least

[vast cypress]

goated ability

[terse ferry]

the viscerate

[vast cypress]

wait is there an achievement for beating the game as the secret character thing

[fresh scarab]

no

[vast cypress]

i forgot their name

[fresh scarab]

Heretic

[terse ferry]

theretic

[vast cypress]

alr good that means that i 100% the game

[sage python]

idk how stuff like beam and freeze drones would fit though, so i assume they werent active on the ship

im glad ac didnt just bring back beam drone

[terse ferry]

maybe beam drones were cargo and they're like common construction/deconstruction equipment

[vast cypress]

the most damage ive ever done is 5 quadrillion WHAT

[terse ferry]

evil and intimidating proc chain

[vast cypress]

im betting that it was done with c aptain but how

[vast cypress]

possibly

oh nvm the 5 quadrillion comes from loader somehow

[sage python]

kinda funny that there are 4 types of heal drone now

[vast cypress]

was i traveling at the speed of light or something how did i do that

[sage python]

tho i guess theres a lot of weaponry ones

[terse ferry]

heal emergency barrier anddd
doc?

[sage python]

heal, emergency, medical and barrier

[terse ferry]

wtf is medical drone

[sage python]

rorr

[terse ferry]

i do not remember encountering that

[terse ferry]

intriguing

[sage python]

here are the rest of the tier 2 drones

why is tier 2 flamethrower gif so large lol

medical drone and attack drone are the only naturally occurring ones

[fresh scarab]

wouldn’t you like to know

I like the redesigned drones in 2

they’re more distinct

it’s completely ridiculous that they’re propeller powered but it adds to the charm

[sage python]

i dont think they redesigned any ?

[fresh scarab]

I meant the differences in designs between games

[sage python]

i guess they gave heal drones the green colouration

[sage python]

yeah they stayed largely the same visually

i guess medical drone got replaced by emergency

[fresh scarab]

every time I think about 1/Returns I always think about how badly Laser Turbine translated over to 3D

man, Resonance Disc just doesn’t work

[pearl summit]

How it feels defending commando from people saying he's bad

[fresh scarab]

Commando bell curve is real

new player “this guy is pretty cool”
learning player “wow this guy is terrible, easily the worst survivor in the game”
experienced player “this guy is pretty cool”

[austere prism]

@thin saddle LOVES commando

[pearl summit]

It really js

[austere prism]

every time we play they say just how much they love commando

[sage python]

phase round best skill evah

[austere prism]

and how commando has his own tier above everyone else

[pearl summit]

They've a pure heart

[fresh scarab]

Command is just a silly little guy doing his own thing

and he works hard!

[austere prism]

shoot enemy

shoot enemy but blue raspberry flavored

dodge enemy shoot

shoot fast

[fresh scarab]

shoot a bunch*

[austere prism]

shoot many

[fresh scarab]

shoot many

[austere prism]

shoot everything

[sage python]

shoot stun*

[austere prism]

shoot many fast stun

[sage python]

its the same firerate

its more accurate tho

[fresh scarab]

I do wish Suppressive Fire had even close to the sauce it has in Returns

[sage python]

also allows resprints

[austere prism]

same firerate just feels faster

[pearl summit]

It makes halcyonite not so painful to fight

Which is lit

[fresh scarab]

I personally object to both specials as I instead opt for

POINT BLANK

which is objectively a dumb and overtuned ability but man do I love it

[austere prism]

the "sit down halcyonite" button

[wet marsh]

hai guys :3

[fresh scarab]

“what if we locked Phase Blast to even closer range”

[pearl summit]

Wait what

[pearl summit]

Hello

[fresh scarab]

if the hitbox of Suppressive Fire was a cone I would love it so much

[sage python]

i kinda wish rorr mando got an alt primary instead of slide

[wet marsh]

whats suppressive fire TwT

[sage python]

commando default special

[wet marsh]

yes i larp ror2 guys how could you tell

[fresh scarab]

Commando’s Special

[wet marsh]

ohhhh so not grenade

yeah grenade is better and all but i cant help but still be fond of the simplicity of supp fire

not like it matters anyways essence of heresy >>>

[sage python]

id say they are pretty equal

[fresh scarab]

Suppressive Fire is probably the second best stunning move

[wet marsh]

"but he cant proc bands effectively!" just... dont build towards bands?

[sonic tangle]

thats not really the point

[fresh scarab]

technically it’s probably the best but functionally I count shocking as well

[sonic tangle]

the point is if you happen to get bands now you have something to make sure they arent useless

[wet marsh]

i was gonna say scrappers and all exist but theyre not guaranteed for every run

[sage python]

phase round

[wet marsh]

you could still go all in on atg/soup reds

[fresh scarab]

Phase Round only procs bands on second enemy hit

[sage python]

well yeah

[sonic tangle]

i run phase blast suppressive fire and i dont mind getting bands because items like shuri and atg exist

[fresh scarab]

true

[wet marsh]

still run all alternate but it could be a good idea to go for default everything again (EXCEPT ROLL)

i'd rather slide

[fresh scarab]

roll used to have cool stuff but I think AC removed a lot of it’s tech

[sage python]

yeah

[fresh scarab]

so Slide is the move

[sage python]

we love rolling backwards

the skill just doesnt work

[pearl summit]

It's wild how shit that ability is

[fresh scarab]

roll doesn’t even have iframes :(

[pearl summit]

What were they thinking making that

[sage python]

roll was fine

[fresh scarab]

roll was niche but mostly worse than slide

[wet marsh]

what could the usecase of rolling backwards possibly entice

[pearl summit]

It's just there to make you want to unlock its alt

[sage python]

skills 2.0 added a largely better alt and sots broke every advantage roll had

[fresh scarab]

I wish they carved out its niche of being good at dodging instead of raw mobility like slide

[sage python]

dodging

[restive pawn]

Gulp

[pearl summit]

What advantages?

[wet marsh]

cant you still dodge with slide or is that significantly harder to do

[fresh scarab]

roll had a lot of flexibility with verticality

[sage python]

you do a u turn instead of going directly back

[sage python]

momentum reset, freedom of backwards mobility, trimping

oh and horizontal movement mid air

sots broke every single one of them and its had no usecases since

[fresh scarab]

Slide is more of a proactive dodge whereas Roll could be a reactive dodge

except it’s not
it just sucks :(

[sage python]

i wont pretend it was great before

but it at least had something

[wet marsh]

poor commando 3:

[sage python]

i hope they fix it soon, its been over a year

[wet marsh]

hasnt it been addressed multiple times by then?

surely itll get fixed

[fresh scarab]

probably not

[pearl summit]

I feel like they're not gonna touch anything to do with old content

[wet marsh]

thank you gearbox 🙏🙏🙏

[pearl summit]

They released AC and False Son is still the way he is

[fresh scarab]

the only old pieces of content they’ve touched are Vields and barrier

besides bug fixes

[sage python]

drones, lunar coins and artificer primaries also

[pearl summit]

What did they do with lunar coins?

[fresh scarab]

what did they change about lunar coins again

[sage python]

and blind pests

[sage python]

they give them on achievement now

[wet marsh]

thats a decent change tbh

[sage python]

its minor but its a thing

[pearl summit]

I didn't know that wasn't a thing before

[wet marsh]

incentivises hunting achievements to get more coins

[sage python]

i think its weird idk

[pearl summit]

Huh

[fresh scarab]

the lunar system isn’t very good anyways

[sage python]

it kinda makes artificer always unlockable from the first bazaar visit

[wet marsh]

i try to avoid lunars tbh

[fresh scarab]

specifically the lunar shop in the bazaar

[terse ferry]

Evil mooner:

[sage python]

i liked that you usually had to discover arti then go back for her

[fresh scarab]

if you could only get lunars from pods it would be a lot better

[sage python]

apart from that its cool ig

[fresh scarab]

still bad, but a lot better

[sage python]

not that 10 coins was ever hard tbf lol

[wet marsh]

without the bazaar you wouldnt necessarily be able to unlock heretic right

if it was just restricted to lunar pods

[fresh scarab]

most likely not

[wet marsh]

is heretic bad game design?

[fresh scarab]

lunar pod drops would need to be increased otherwise it wouldn’t be possible

Heretic is a top 3 survivor

like, Seeker and False Son tier

[pearl summit]

I've just realized I have well over 2k hours and I have never played Heretic

[wet marsh]

i played heretic twice shes so fun

[sage python]

so yeah, they have changed barrier, void fields, void fog, drones, lunar coins, artificer primaries and blind pests

[pearl summit]

Actually maybe one time like 2 years ago I have no idea

[terse ferry]

Idk how people enjoy heretic tbh her kit is so m1 sim
The m2 is interesting but has fucked up charging conversion

[sage python]

i like heretic, shes just too strong

[fresh scarab]

the M2 needs an indicator on it

stg people will like it more with just that

[sage python]

skill cycle survivors are cool

[wet marsh]

being able to manage her healthpool and such is what makes her fun in my eyes

[sage python]

i like em simple

[terse ferry]

I think it just needs actual linear charge time scaling
Idk if this is fact but I've heard the charge time -> distance conversion isn't linear which is why it's so hard to get used to

[wet marsh]

plus m2 is surprisingly unique to a degree

[sage python]

i think it changes velocity not distance

i find is pretty intuitive personally

[terse ferry]

I mean same thing for the most part unless there's drag involved

[sage python]

there is aint there?

it decelerates slowly

[terse ferry]

Shrug
I've used hooks like actually twice since it's so weird to use

[sage python]

i recommend giving it another shot, its fun once you get it down

[terse ferry]

And one of those times I just teleported to bazaar and tried to get used to it 😭

[sage python]

oh

you can bounce it off terrain, thats cool

[fresh scarab]

Heretic has:

• the highest damage stat of any survivor
• the most health of any survivor
• the most base mobility of any survivor (1m/s extra speed and 3 jumps)
• a decent M1 that synergizes incredibly well with her Special (which is one of the most powerful abilities in the game)
• Viend’s utility but even better

all at the cost of having negative health regen which gets negated by 2 and her Utility
incredible

[sage python]

its not really anything like viend util

[fresh scarab]

does Shadowfade cleanse I forget

[sage python]

+ noxious thorns is stupid good

[sage python]

dont think so

[fresh scarab]

is also very useful, as it allows you to practically apply Ruin stacks 100% of the time

even after Ruin is used

[sage python]

strides is my least fav heresy item so i dont use it much

[sage python]

oh yeah right

[fresh scarab]

most survivor utilities are too integral to switch out for Shadowfade

maybe MUL-T?

[wet marsh]

strides of heresy is shift right?

[sage python]

i still prefer transport

it does beeg damage and shadowfade doesnt provide much for them

[wet marsh]

yeah that one is really good on pretty much anyone who doesnt rely on their utility for damage

[fresh scarab]

Transport Mode does let you proc bands on bigger enemies

[round sandal]

I… am the meower…

[wet marsh]

meow

[round sandal]

Meowwwww

[fresh scarab]

a respectable band proc too

[sage python]

chat, the meower is here !!!

[wet marsh]

meow meow

[round sandal]

Yeah she is

[sage python]

i cant think of a survivor id pick it up on

cute !!!!

[wet marsh]

i'd argue captain when not using diablo strike

[round sandal]

Actually let me recrop tht

That

[fresh scarab]

Orbitals are still pretty good

[terse ferry]

That's a big hit to your aoe tho
Also band procs

[sage python]

orbital probes are very strong

[terse ferry]

It's also a 3000% burst which is like

[wet marsh]

uhhhh...

im trying to think of characters i'd use strides on

[sage python]

its pretty comparable to ballista

[fresh scarab]

wait wouldn’t Viend actually be really good with Strides

[round sandal]

NOW look at the silly

[fresh scarab]

doesn’t he still get corrupted Trespass

[terse ferry]

As long as you're not deliberately using their worse utility (i.e. commando roll) I feel like no survivors really want strides

[sage python]

cute !!!

[round sandal]

Laying like she pays the rent

(I don’t pay rent)

[sage python]

id still rather have uncorrupted trespass

[wet marsh]

cutest cat ever of all time

[sage python]

shadowfade is sluggish and trespass allows you to charge secondary

i guess the healing could be good maybe

[fresh scarab]

this is true

[round sandal]

Lowk meows

[terse ferry]

But unfortunately viend has the funny button

[sage python]

but using it evasively would set you back in corruption

[sage python]

this too tru

[round sandal]

Was that tuff

[sage python]

yes bestie

[round sandal]

Thanks bestie

[fresh scarab]

the healing from Suppress is a decent bit stronger than Shadowfade as well

[wet marsh]

rex?

[fresh scarab]

25% vs ~18%

[wet marsh]

his push doesnt seem too effective so why wouldnt you pick the better movement option

[terse ferry]

Util is good burst movement and if you're running alt free healing

[sage python]

alt util provides better heals and mobility id say

ig being intangible is cool but shadowfade just feels so slow

[fresh scarab]

that’s because Shadowfade is just regular movement speed

[sage python]

yea

[fresh scarab]

except you can also walk in midair

[terse ferry]

Rex's util is a "get the fuck away from me" tool that also heals you and knocks both targets back and has the option to not knock yourself back while shadowfade is just "I'm gonna disappear for a bit"

[sage python]

i think we found the worst util

[wet marsh]

real?

[terse ferry]

I'd still take it over roll but wow that's a low bar

[fresh scarab]

we found the worst of the GOOD utilities

looking at you
Polar Field Device

[round sandal]

I LOVE peanut butter

[wet marsh]

i kinda wanna say chef utilities but i know thatll just make me sound horrendously stupid TwT

the fact that you cant control his default well enough pains me

[fresh scarab]

Oil Spill is good by technicality ONLY

[terse ferry]

Roll is one of the best general mobility tools in the game </3

[sage python]

id keep still keep roll and polar field device over shadowfade, but maybe thats just a me thing

[fresh scarab]

and Roll is really good until it kills you but that’s fine

[sage python]

i really dislike what they did to roll

[fresh scarab]

Roll went from default mobility to way too fast in a single update

[wet marsh]

it has these really really weird physics that merc has with m2

[sage python]

they turned a pretty alright combat mobility skill into a skill that makes it difficult to engage in combat

[fresh scarab]

to the point where you can die from fall damage without leaving the ground

[wet marsh]

mercs m2 isnt bad because you can reasonably control it

[sage python]

chef roll was an omen for faraday spurs

[terse ferry]

Also because you can dash cancel with it which is awesome

[wet marsh]

when roll goes off for like a good 3s it feels bad to control

[fresh scarab]

Roll can never be fully charged or else you’ll go all over the place

you always gotta charge 1 or 2 tiers

[wet marsh]

when do you charge 3?

[sage python]

i liked old roll more, they shouldve just given it slight speed proportional to charge time i think

[fresh scarab]

open road

[wet marsh]

pillarskip?

[fresh scarab]

no obstacles anywhere near you

[terse ferry]

General traversal on less hilly areas

[fresh scarab]

also this

Roll is by far the most free pillar skip in the game

[sage python]

i wish i liked oil spill

[wet marsh]

okay noted

[fresh scarab]

with the exception of like

[sage python]

reprieve

[mild cloak]

Oh I see

[wet marsh]

cuz the 2 times i played chef i just hurled myself with 3 charges everywhere and he didnt feel good to play

[mild cloak]

Sorry for trying ??

[sage python]

you just look at the arena and press the button

[fresh scarab]

Seeker gets to do everything so that’s kind of normal

we expect that from her

[mild cloak]

wtf did I do to be unable to uninstall arknights

[sage python]

blame google

[wet marsh]

play a bit more trust

[mild cloak]

I can't

It keeps saying the game isn't launching

[wet marsh]

oh corrupted files?

[mild cloak]

No

[fresh scarab]

oil in general just isn’t very good to play around, so one of the key features of Oil Spill is just kinda lame

[mild cloak]

I actually checked

[sage python]

i like glaze

[fresh scarab]

and so you’re left with a really odd mobility skill that makes CHEF harder to play

[mild cloak]

The shortcut is on my desktop but there isn't a single arknights file on my pc

[fresh scarab]

Glaze is different though because Glaze applies Weaken

Oil Spill does not

[mild cloak]

Searching for a game that doesn't exist

[sage python]

giving a pierce character stupid verticality on both utils was certainly a choice

[mild cloak]

I'm gonna restart my pc

[wet marsh]

good idea

[sage python]

chef lacks flow and thats a shame given they are a combo character

[sage python]

ya

[wet marsh]

one thing i noticed with chef is that luminous shot goes surprisingly hard on him

[fresh scarab]

Glaze isn’t a bad ability because it uses oil
Glaze is the worse ability because Yes CHEF is overpowered

[mild cloak]

Are we deadass

[sage python]

i dont like yes chef ngl

[wet marsh]

gotta love how the dlc characters have "bad" abilities when theyre still really good on any other base survivor

[sage python]

im glad its there

dont get me wrong

[fresh scarab]

Yes CHEF definitely could’ve been executed much better

its current implementations across the abilities is quite clunky

[sage python]

but i think using it kinda removes what makes chef chef for me

[wet marsh]

his ice cube shouldnt do that much damage and his armor shift during yes chef is wonky as fuck

cant you also animation cancel to immediately throw ice??

[mild cloak]

I can't open, observe, uninstall or see the location of arknights