ror2-discussion

[fast hatch]

Merc is like

The 3rd hardest character

[cedar coral]

yh

[cedar coral]

whats the 2nd and 1st

[fast hatch]

Probably commando and rex subjectively

[cedar coral]

hardest to win with or hardest to use

[fast hatch]

Hardest to play

[cedar coral]

commando is easy as hell to play unless we're speaking frag grenade

[fast hatch]

Commando is quite weak compared to other survivors

[cedar coral]

looking at it now most ror2 characters arent really too complex

so yeah I agree with you actually commando and rex are hardest

[blissful torrent]

disagree tbh commando is very consistent

[fast hatch]

Yeah fair

Rex is my favorite character

It's so fun

[cedar coral]

im gonna do a merc run

just got rising thunder

[fast hatch]

Merc ability is so hard

How do you even do prismatic no hit

[cedar coral]

you dont

[round sandal]

Y’all are about to get hugged again.

[cedar coral]

so dont bother because eviscerate is better anyway

[errant marsh]

Wait for an easy one

[cedar coral]

I want a hug irl

I love hugs

[round sandal]

Flys over there and hugs

[cedar coral]

preciate that

[fast hatch]

The old hardest character was probably chef or something

[fallow sedge]

@round sandal hugs

[livid idol]

:O

[round sandal]

Hugs back

[round sandal]

Eats it

[fast hatch]

If you are playing with mods play with quality

Best mod

[livid idol]

nah, doesn't appeal to me

[blissful torrent]

honestly i think both are good, eviscerate gives mobility and i-frames but slicing winds gives range and exposed

[round sandal]

If you’re gonna play with mods, play whichever one you want :3

[livid idol]

true....

hi the meower!

[blissful torrent]

hi meower how are you today?

[cedar coral]

fair

[fast hatch]

As long as you don't play with over like 10 or 20

[blissful torrent]

i have 29 but they consist of like 6 qol/bugfix mods and 20+ dependencies

[livid idol]

I learned that my qol and bugfix stuff + dependencies is 70 mods 😭

it's mostly bugfixing

[mental anchor]

guys I made it to commencement what's the play here

[livid idol]

heli pilot beats mithrix, he has no anti air

[mental anchor]

you're onto something

[blissful torrent]

ice monkey because mithrix gets destroyed by freeze

[round sandal]

Hiiiiiiii

[mental anchor]

the one issue is that mithrix might be hiding in these craters a lot

[sacred elk]

What if instead of subnautica 2 it was boatairopia 2

[fallow sedge]

What's the name of this character al

[livid idol]

swarmling

[blissful torrent]

if you have ignition tanks then top path tack shooter would be good too

[mental anchor]

I know nothing about swarmling but I need to beat eclipse with it now

[livid idol]

awu red was war bonds, oh god if that item is inherited....

[mental anchor]

gonna ask hopoo games why they thought they should force you to use mortar monkeys, absolute bullshit

[unique hawk]

What

[mental anchor]

wait
maybe I could squeeze use out of desperado

[blissful torrent]

tbh the rework where if you take desperado bandit you have to choose between pistol path rifle path and shotgun path seemed like an odd choice

[livid idol]

they can just do this??? i've never seen magma worm swim in air like this

[mental anchor]

yeah magma worms can do that

[unique hawk]

Never saw the appeal of td

[blissful torrent]

kinda wild

[cedar coral]

oh yeah I might have to add the mercenary role

the sensitivity handicap for merc on console isnt as bad as I originally thought

[mental anchor]

no fucking way

[blissful torrent]

isn't deadeye a railgunner skin

[vital depot]

yeah i think so

it’s the SoTS skin

[cedar coral]

when it comes to merc skips do I use vase or chrysalis

[cedar coral]

oh my god hes back in the new ror2 blosns td crossover

[fast hatch]

10 or 20 individuak

[vital depot]

i cant wait for HC to drop with a bug patch that fixes everything and everyone becomes happy again (i cannot play artificer without becoming irritated)

[livid idol]

so I was forced to go to soul pillar, character with no osp meant that didn't go well

but the new run goes crazy

[molten hound]

what is up my SLIMES

[arctic seal]

what do u think of my new name

[cedar coral]

anyone?

also do I scrap request form or nah

[cedar coral]

whats wrong with arti

[fallow sedge]

Merc has a build in pillar skip in almost every load out

[arctic seal]

2

[vital depot]

This has been a long time problem

[arctic seal]

prob 2

[fallow sedge]

Vase is instant tho, it's up to you really it doesn't matter

[cedar coral]

im running 221

[vital depot]

It was before AC, I feel like it was even before SOTS

[fallow sedge]

Yeah you can climb the tree trunk with that

[cedar coral]

pretty sure focused assault is 2 anyway

[cedar coral]

bet

[molten hound]

make it peepers

[arctic seal]

or maybe vase if u dont want to do a qte every time mitrix does pizza

[cedar coral]

shit

too late bro 😭 I didnt think of that

[arctic seal]

welp]

[cedar coral]

maybe ill just kill him before pizza

[arctic seal]

bird up

[molten hound]

who up here'ing they tic

[terse fossil]

i hate how the same button you use to progress thru a TP in returns is the same one that loops your run in stage 5

it got me killed because i got sent to stage 6 and got fried

[wicked hearth]

risk of rain 2 music tierlist

[round bronze]

1. Having Fallen, It Was Blood
2. Having Fallen, It Was Blood
3. Having Fallen, It Was Blood
4. Having Fallen, It Was Blood
5. Having Fallen, It Was Blood

[vital depot]

I can barely remember when stage 1s used to not give this many items

[cedar coral]

did someone say there was a skip method that didnt involve equipment with merc

[cedar coral]

elite choice but for me its soundless depths

that starting beat on having fallen is SO good tho

[coarse merlin]

1/2. Con Lentitud Ponderosa (The Place Where It Rained)

[round bronze]

oh TRUE

[cedar coral]

also elite choice

[cedar coral]

yuhhh

does anyone else listen to songs that match their mood or is it just me

[molten hound]

i dont listen to music all that much

[round bronze]

for having the most heavenly drop in existence

[coarse merlin]

I listen to songs to change my mood

[cedar coral]

fair

[cedar coral]

I may have to give this a listen

I forgot what stage it is

[round bronze]

void fields

[cedar coral]

fair i usually listen to sad songs when im sad idk why

[cedar coral]

ahh yeah that drop is heavenly

[round bronze]

this is why it gets high tier

[livid idol]

uke from tp is kinda nuts

[round bronze]

i will hold on to this clip forever

[vital depot]

may not ever prefer it but i do love the visuals on antlers

[round bronze]

trueee antlers have a really nice item display

[mental anchor]

why the fuck did they make this guy on the moon so easy, all you need to do is freeze him like 20 times and he dies

[halcyon creek]

turretlings mod?

or whatever it was i saw it on thunderstore

[livid idol]

snowtime toybox but yeah

[blissful torrent]

not even on eclipse 🙄 no wonder you find it easy on monsoon

[halcyon creek]

you can make gunner turrets become turretlings btw

in the settings im pretty sure

[fresh idol]

is this a Risk of Rain mod

[livid idol]

also iris i did all artifacts e8- took a while to get past stage 1 but after I did i see no world command isn't just a buff

[molten hound]

chobel

[livid idol]

i forgot to take an end of run screenshot but mithrix got evaporated

unsurprisingly

[fresh idol]

i give this command run a 3/10 of creativity

[livid idol]

oh i know I wasn't being creative with items

[blissful torrent]

how is everyone doing today?

[molten hound]

good

[fresh idol]

terrible. i only slept 1 hour this night
anyways

[molten hound]

i watched a movie in the cinema

[fresh idol]

thanks for asking tho

makes me feel better

[fallow sedge]

40 greens from where wtf

[fallow sedge]

Germany is FUCKING awesome I wish I lived here

[livid idol]

all artifacts, which meant i grabbed sonorous stage 4, and because it's sacrifice swarms honor it's uh yeah

[fallow sedge]

Air pollution is 10x less than Poland

[fallow sedge]

That's still absurd in 30 minutes

[blissful torrent]

hope tomorrow is better for you

[livid idol]

every enemy is elite idk qwp

[blissful torrent]

what movie?

[fallow sedge]

Ig it is honor and sonorous true

[molten hound]

find my pages to find out

[fresh idol]

the 2 points of creativity are coming from the disciple, random energy drink and bakcup mags

[blissful torrent]

i will donate 5 great british pounds towards you living in germany

[fallow sedge]

Thank u for the supertip

[livid idol]

i don't deserve the energy drink, that was rebirth lmao

[fallow sedge]

Goodnight tiny risk of rain people in my screen

[fresh idol]

god you're using the mod that reorders items

[livid idol]

i like it

[fallow sedge]

I KNOW RIGHT I HATE RHAT

[molten hound]

we are the risklings please feed us

[fallow sedge]

Sorry just had to get it out

[cedar coral]

fym collect free delivery

[fresh idol]

i mean it's kind of whatever bc he is using command anyways so the story of the run that the order tells is basically nonexistent

[livid idol]

it's a lot easier to look at my items and know what I'm willing to get rid of at a printer before I go in if the items are near eachother

[cedar coral]

dude got an amazon package as if the 10 artifacts he has enabled wasnt enough

[fallow sedge]

I will feed you like mama bird, chew it up and drop it into your mouth from my mouth

[cedar coral]

pack it UP bro

[molten hound]

please dont

[fallow sedge]

Oh ok :(

[molten hound]

krchchcherch im turning into a truck now

[cedar coral]

feed us a different way

[fallow sedge]

Can't have wholesomeness

[molten hound]

pack it up pack it in

[cedar coral]

more like mouth to mouth

[blissful torrent]

goodnight qwp! sleep well

[cedar coral]

yeah I think im starting to enjoy merc

[sour nest]

Do ya'll have a fav boss? Doesn't need to be a final boss.

[cedar coral]

I just need to learn all the tech

[primal nova]

Bruhhhhhhh go on wo me pt (Providence Trials) for enforcer in rorr pmo

[sour nest]

Merc is a class I can tell is amazing... But it also isn't my cup of tea and I don't wanna bother to learn it.

[blissful torrent]

solus wing personally

[cedar coral]

my current favourite is probably vagrant or false son

[fallow sedge]

I've grown to really like Clay dunestriders

[fresh idol]

Alloy Hunter gave me the best first impression of a boss in this game

[cedar coral]

WHAT the hell

[fallow sedge]

If not them then Solus heart

[sour nest]

Swing WWWW.

[cedar coral]

if I had ac itd probably be swing

but for now my favourite has to be a tie between vagrant and false son

[sour nest]

Alloy hunter is also a really noice choice tbh.

[molten hound]

beetle queen because it stays still so i can use 120 diablo strikes on it

[blissful torrent]

i love alloy hunter herself, but the fight gets dragged down for me by the collective elites that just randomly fly in and start blocking hits if you don't finish charging the teleporter before you spawn her

[cedar coral]

alloy hunter looks sick

[molten hound]

i dont like alloy hunters animations

[cedar coral]

how do you even deal with collective elites

[errant marsh]

Yo wtf theres 3 barrier drones on this stage 😭

[molten hound]

they are quite stiff

[sour nest]

My main issue with alloy hunter is the fact that she only has like... 2 Attacks.

[fresh idol]

it's always kinda cool how the Alloy Hunter fight mixes so good with the enemies around the teleporter. it's the only boss that i feel like it mixes pretty well with everything else

[errant marsh]

Not complaining though I am operator

[blissful torrent]

get inside the bubble and hit the elite, then the shield gets taken down for a while

[cedar coral]

oh cool

[sour nest]

Carpet bombing and item-disabling laser.

[cedar coral]

whats you guys favourite enemy

[fresh idol]

imo bosses in ror2 are better when they are environment hazards that you need to deal with while fighting other enemies from the stage and that's why i like her

sucks a lot that she is a scripted boss

[cedar coral]

excluding boss monsters

[blissful torrent]

i like her because she's a teleporter boss with a unique gameplay loop

but i wish i didn't have to contend with collective elites while i was fighting her

[cedar coral]

I wish I hadnt spoiled myself about her

[blissful torrent]

in terms of gameplay i have no idea but there's something about lesser wisps that i find really cute

[fresh idol]

yeah thats kinda understandable but i really like how it mixes with the elites as wwell

[old python]

Merc brings luck.

[fresh idol]

i hate collective elites too but on Alloy Hunter it just makes sense

[cedar coral]

I havent seen the full fight itself yet but ive tried to erase the fact that she kills the scu at 75% from my head for quite some time now and it hasnt been working

[cedar coral]

thats fair

[sour nest]

I don't like merc just because I'm not the biggest fav of the "weeb fast katana swinging" style class. But I can tell that it's really good.

[old python]

He's just dash.

[blissful torrent]

i got spoiled for two lategame mewgenics bosses weeks before i got to them and it was impossible to forget what i'd learned

[sour nest]

Tbh I'm not much of a fan of melee characters in general.

[cedar coral]

gameplay wise I think my favourite enemy is void infestor or scavenger OR greater wisp

[quasi lance]

Just had a god run on commando e7, headst, spur, bands, bleed, gas, ignition tanks, and a foupler with 2 capacitors, it all got shut down my a single voidtouched elder leumerian shot collapsing me and killing me by 20 hp

[old python]

He's just.. shift and R.. there is no pure melee character in ror2.

[round bronze]

the fuckin uhhh grovetenders

[molten hound]

foupler ❤️‍🩹

[cedar coral]

😭😭 thats rough

[blissful torrent]

i love scavs until they get a jank item combo and become immortal

[cedar coral]

hate the feeling of trying to gaslight yourself you didnt see something

[molten hound]

i wish i had the memory gun

[quasi lance]

Gameplay wise my favorite enemies are Void Jailers and Amalgamators

[sour nest]

Unless one of his alt abilities have a ranged attack, merc is a pure melee character.

[molten hound]

ujhjghtf

[cedar coral]

ah yeah then its kinda impossible to like

[blissful torrent]

his alternate special is ranged

[old python]

Well yeah that's literally it.

[fresh idol]

blind pests

[cedar coral]

this guy just hates having fun

[sour nest]

Damn aight'.

[quasi lance]

Jailers and Amalgamators are fun because they actually scare me sometimes

Theyre also so unique

[cedar coral]

jailers are terrifying

[molten hound]

i like jailers alot yae

[cedar coral]

one of the few enemies that actually makes my heart jump

[blissful torrent]

i didn't think i'd enjoy merc either but honestly i'd recommend at least giving him a couple of runs, he feels really satisfying to play

[quasi lance]

E7 jailers are just black hole machines if you aint careful

[old python]

He's anything but melee imo, you just dash and even have a ranged alt.. there's an actual pure melee character mod that I fucking LOVE.. I really wish it was vanilla.

[cedar coral]

agreed

[sour nest]

I have given him a few runs of effort but he really just isn't my cup of tea.

[cedar coral]

I thought id hate playing him and I was so so wrong

[old python]

That's fair.

[sour nest]

I just don't really like melee in ROR2 aside from false son, mainly because false son feels like he hits like a truck, and he does hit like a truck.

[blissful torrent]

when you missed the repossess at the start i thought this was gonna be a clip of you missing everything and dying spectacularly

[placid quail]

I thought the expose m1 cancel tech was mandatory but it is not

[cedar coral]

the what now

[molten hound]

this has happened but i will never reveal my mistakes
oah

[placid quail]

Timing your other abilities so the third sword slash hits the enemies at the same time

[blissful torrent]

false son is kind of a weird case — he has a melee primary but his secondary and special make him incredibly effective at range too

[cedar coral]

oo yeah I know how to do that fairly consistently

[old python]

You cancel the third M1 animation with M2 I suppose.

[cedar coral]

needs a little work though

[cedar coral]

yee

[placid quail]

Acrid if he was a rock

[quasi lance]

Once was climbing a chain in abbysal depths and on the other end 4 gups spawned and shoved me off

[sour nest]

Drifter I've been slowly liking less because of how ultimately scuffed her kit is. Her special options are literally just "suffer hard in lategame" (salvage) or "win the game" (tinker)

[uneven scarab]

A Drifter was Operated by a Huntress

[old python]

Unfortunately it's still useless lategame.

[cedar coral]

ah

[sour nest]

Also what I kinda like about false son. Idk I just really like how hefty he feels in everything he does.

[blissful torrent]

if you time it properly you can cancel the third m1 with any other ability and it causes that ability to damage and expose enemies

[placid quail]

Imagine if salvage dropped more items the longer you go in a run like how that drone works

[old python]

M2 would be the most efficient.

[cedar coral]

once I got one hit by a blazing gup on sky meadow

[blissful torrent]

the most efficient is alternate utility tbh

[placid quail]

I bet blazing Gups smell like spicy cinnamon

[cedar coral]

I was running away before it did the spike attack and as you can probably guess I wasnt running fast enough

[sour nest]

Not actually throwing shade at drifter for this but I would have personally rathered if drifter was a ranged character rather than melee.

[blissful torrent]

you dash through enemies, damaging and exposing them, then a second later you damage them again, proccing the expose and reexposing them immediately

[old python]

Mmmm is utility the R?

[blissful torrent]

the shift

[cedar coral]

idkk I feel like her being melee is her whole thing especially after rorr

[quasi lance]

Once tanked a gilded brass contraption shot then died to a hermit crab

Right after

[cedar coral]

LOL

[old python]

You initiate with the shift, then R to get back close, then your m1 and M2.

[cedar coral]

I remember the other type I got one hit by a hermit crab too

[sour nest]

I love the whole scrapper theme drifter has, but I just don't like how melee oriented she is.

[cedar coral]

I was playing rex jumping around side to side and suddenly there I was on the floor

[quasi lance]

This is worse than the time i had to fight 20 voidtouched gups

[blissful torrent]

there's nothing stopping you from holding m1 as you approach to engage with an expose cancel on that initial shift

[cedar coral]

why not?

[quasi lance]

I had a gup event and 3 VOID SEEDS!1!1?1?

[cedar coral]

it cant possibly be worse

[quasi lance]

There was also 2 devastators and so i just let them take me

[cedar coral]

gup event sounds like absolute hell

[sour nest]

Melee ain't really my thing for RO2. And drifter is one of, if not the most melee focused class in the game.

[old python]

I usually use the shift to close distance, and the R to get me back to the enemy since the shift prob sent me too far.

[quasi lance]

Commando aint doing shit

[blissful torrent]

i had this once on abyssal and i died after 20 minutes

[terse sedge]

Peak event

[cedar coral]

ive never actually had to deal with devastators

are they scary

[blissful torrent]

i was playing mando on a copium run and i just didn't have the damage

[cedar coral]

fair

[quasi lance]

Devastators hurt like hell and have huge aoe attacks

[blissful torrent]

nothing is scary if you don't get hit

[cedar coral]

I love mando but his item reliance sucks

[fresh idol]

i really like Merc but all my fun gets deleted when i get to Mithrix. outplaying enemies with iframes is fun when there is a lot, even when i have low damage. but when it's a final boss i'd rather to just get out of the game

[sour nest]

For me, in general my preference is in games is:

Guns > melee > magic.

[cedar coral]

interesting

[old python]

You don't know cope runs. @blissful torrent

[quasi lance]

Plus their implosion is huge and sends out tiny orbs that implode and insta kill whatever they hit

[sour nest]

Magic does have heavy potential to be the most fun but a lot of the time it ain't done right I feel.

[cedar coral]

for me it's guns > magic > melee

[sour nest]

Fair.

[vapid dagger]

depends on the game

[cedar coral]

you could technically mix magic and melee together though

[quasi lance]

I hate most melee in other games but i love melee in ror2

[vapid dagger]

i tend to prefer guns tho

[cedar coral]

I want to say guns are an overused game archetype but you cant really say that

[vapid dagger]

and i tend to not prefer magic

[fresh idol]

i'm the other way around lol

[sour nest]

Compliments to ROR2, it is very hard to balance melee characters in a game focused around ranged. ROR2 did that amazingly.

[cedar coral]

I like magic if the mana system doesn't revolve around drinking potions

[blissful torrent]

if you didn't take the tonic that was a free run tbh 😭😭😭😭 you had speed, defense, procs and aoe

[cedar coral]

heavily agree

[vapid dagger]

mercenary is a design masterclass

[old python]

I had the tonic from first stage.. which is why it's a cope run.

[blissful torrent]

nah you suffered the consequences of addiction

[sour nest]

I hope a real challenge class comes into the game. I'm not talking a challenge class as in it's just "bad", moreover that it's tough as shit to play but heavy rewards.

[blissful torrent]

not true i keep dying on merc therefore he is awful design

[old python]

I didn't even know it gave you a permanent debuff lmao.

[quasi lance]

I wish there was another survivor with a basic gun primary that wasnt commando (or bandit but i play him too much and desperado is too good). Operator is the only other character that fits that for me

[fresh idol]

the Commando role saying this is very real

[quasi lance]

And operator is fun but so frail

[old python]

The should add enforcer.

[quasi lance]

I was just bout to say that

[sour nest]

I don't find operator to be that much of a glass cannon tbh.

[cedar coral]

merc and rex are the closest you get to that

[sour nest]

Maybe I'm just tripping though.

[honest patio]

Stone Flux Pauldron

this son of a beach caused our run to be for nothing

[blissful torrent]

his health is the lowest in the game tied with huntress iirc

[sour nest]

Rex is soo- 💤

[cedar coral]

whaaat

[quasi lance]

Merc is the real skill/reward character

[cedar coral]

give him a try hes fun

[sour nest]

I've played him multiple times.

[cedar coral]

damn not for everybody ig

[blissful torrent]

i swear rex is the most polarising survivor

[livid idol]

melee doesn't feel melee in ror2

[blissful torrent]

people either love em or hate em

[quasi lance]

Rex is very slow and i dont like slow survivors (yes im a loader main how could you tell)

[sour nest]

Interesting, tbf you kinda gotta try to get hit with operator due to how good his verticle movement is.

[blissful torrent]

the marmite of risk of rain 2 survivors

[cedar coral]

rex isnt that slow

[cedar coral]

that is an amazing comparison

[unique hawk]

All survivors have the same speed

Except heretic

[livid idol]

rex has the same speed as everyone else

[blissful torrent]

rex has some neat movement tech with the utility

[quasi lance]

I mean slow as in lacking damage and mobility compared to other survivors

[cedar coral]

by slow I think he means lack of mobility

[livid idol]

lacking damage?????

[sour nest]

Rex is slow because she doesn't have a movement tool... But eh a good chunk of survivors don't have a movement tool anyway.

[blissful torrent]

rex is not lacking in damage unless you play e8

[cedar coral]

damage idk

the mobility part i can kind of understand but they still have mobility

[livid idol]

and directive disperse is good enough mobility

infinitely more than engineer or cap get

[fresh idol]

Rex has an ability that knockbacks him

[cedar coral]

yh

[blissful torrent]

i will say tho that rex's animations make them feel slow

[sour nest]

Yes agreed heavily.

[fresh idol]

it's bc he is big

[cedar coral]

rex barely has animations tho lol

[fresh idol]

big characters will just look slower but they aren't

[sour nest]

I'd say that but False Son feels decently fast despite being huge.

[cedar coral]

I thought he just shot stuff out like heretic

[quasi lance]

I mean slow as in it feels like a slog to kill things without saccing half my health and the mobility is so clunky, i also feel im forced to use disperse and tangling and not the others because they just kinda syck

[fresh idol]

🤔

[quasi lance]

also low proc coeff christ why

[old python]

They haven't used directive harvest.

[livid idol]

i mean you use your healthbar as essentially a mana bar

[cedar coral]

lunar stakes feels SLOOOOOWWWW

[blissful torrent]

rex is designed around paying your health and regenerating it constantly tho

[sour nest]

If you're not spending health to kill enemies as rex, ofc it's gonna be slow.

[blissful torrent]

the whole point of the character is that you're constantly paying your health in exchange for pretty damn high dps

[sour nest]

Paying your health in return for good DPS and good lifesteal.

[quasi lance]

I understand that but when a brass contraption shot or elumerian fireball tanks half your health, you kinda have to micromanage every little use of your abilities, which is very much not for me

[blissful torrent]

alternatively you have to dodge

[blissful torrent]

sorry, that came out kinda rude

[cedar coral]

not really lol

[old python]

No.. you mentioned dodging in the ror2 server..

How could you....

[cedar coral]

rude would be like "just dodge"

[sour nest]

Tbf it is kinda tricky to dodge as rex since you don't have much movement, and no microbot protection like captain for example.

[quasi lance]

I can dodge for christs sake its just that you more than likely will get hit by something

And that gets the ball rolling fast

[cedar coral]

corpsebloom

[sour nest]

I do like rex's design conceptually but eh it's a slogfest for me to care.

[cedar coral]

its nice on rex

[mental anchor]

I am really not good at rex myself

[quasi lance]

I like rex conceptually, but not in game

[cedar coral]

I personally think im pretty good at rex

[blissful torrent]

i personally think i am the best rex player on the planet and everyone will now pay me 5 rupees as congratulations

[quasi lance]

I can consistently win with every character but viend and thats just because 1. Hes my least played character. And 2. I dont like him 😔

[placid quail]

Directive Harvest is secretly good

Not

[meager ledge]

i hate playing rex but u guys should still pay me

[cedar coral]

convo so interesting we got dr stone himself in here

[quasi lance]

If there was a reason to run all healing rex i would play him

[placid quail]

All directive rex

[livid idol]

only harvest is bad tbh

[placid quail]

Self injury? Never heard of her

[blissful torrent]

full plant is great, full robot would be great if harvest was good

[sour nest]

My least fav thing about rex is probably how utterly boring the M1 is.

[placid quail]

Full plant is impossible since the only m1 is robotic 🤓

[cedar coral]

same

[blissful torrent]

my bad i will uninstall now

[cedar coral]

the primary is SO boring

[quasi lance]

Why does his m1 not have a proc coeficcient i want my bleed to not last half a second

[fresh idol]

Rex just feels boring in general like he just tanks so much damage that maintaining health up while having good enough damage isn't anything special

[sour nest]

My fav primary in the game is probably captain or commando's.

[old python]

Gng.

[sour nest]

I have soo much fun with captain's primary that I forget the shitty secondary exists.

[placid quail]

I think my favorite m1 is operator’s

Pew pew pew

[blissful torrent]

captain's primary is really fun as primaries go, which is good because it's basically his only ability for 90% of the game if you run diablo

[quasi lance]

I wish i was on PC so i could have the Customizable loadouts mod

[meager ledge]

this is excilerating get excited

[cedar coral]

HE SAID THE THING

[sour nest]

Yooo is John Stone!

[cedar coral]

professor pebble

[sour nest]

This is something something a billion percent.

[cedar coral]

close enough

[placid quail]

Captain alt secondary idea

Still an electric attack, but it shoots out a small beacon that summons a synthetic lightning bolt that shocks the enemy and nearby enemies as well. Does not work in hidden realms

[quasi lance]

Doctorate-Having Sediment

[cedar coral]

but then in hidden realms hes locked to just his primary

[quasi lance]

Only shotgun in hidden realms!

[sour nest]

Funnily enough, if we deleted captain's secondary and just made his secondary the hold-down feature on his primary, he wouldn't change viability wise in the slightest.

[livid idol]

changes nothing because you only use m1 in hidden realms anyway lmao

[quasi lance]

Captains secondary should have aoe

Thats it

[cedar coral]

true

[quasi lance]

I need someone to tell me one reason captain m2 shouldnt have aoe

[blissful torrent]

captain's secondary shouldn't deal damage, because people complain that its damage is too low when it clearly isn't meant to be a dps ability

[blissful torrent]

if it did it would be okay and that is not acceptable

[cedar coral]

old man jenkins doesnt need more electricity running through those century old arms

[placid quail]

Captain alt primary idea

The shotgun now emits a laser. Keep the laser focused on an enemy for so and so seconds to summon orbital shrapnel that has small AoE

Does not function in hidden realms

[vital depot]

Taking away the one thing that keeps him alive in hidden realms is fucking insane

[placid quail]

It would be so funny though

[blissful torrent]

don't run alt primary and secondary or you have no abilities in hidden realms

[placid quail]

This is the joke

[blissful torrent]

want to fight solus heart? better hope you have 5000 fuel cells with a preon or something

[placid quail]

Imagine the YouTube challenges

Can you beat Voidling with no-ability captain

[blissful torrent]

race already did a no abilities run sorry

[mental anchor]

I'm not good enough at rex to judge how they work

[blissful torrent]

actually isn't this a (comparatively) really easy survivor to do it on? because microbots

a lot of other survivors have no passive or a passive that only benefits their other abilities

[vapid dagger]

merc is fast

[sacred elk]

What if we started saying unfriendly reminder instead of friendly reminder

[blissful torrent]

that would be mean. hope this doesn't help!

[quasi lance]

Captain M2 Rework Concept -
Automatically fire a seeking taser that stuns all enemies in a 4m area for 5 seconds. The stun cannot be ended early.

Notes -
Cooldown : 8s
No Damage / Proc coefficient

[terse ferry]

7m 5s stun on an 8s cooldown is genuinely insane

[quasi lance]

I keep forgetting how big is 7m in this game

[sacred elk]

Infinite stun gaming

[vapid dagger]

merc moment

[blissful torrent]

slightly bigger than kjaro radius

[terse ferry]

i mean even then 5s of stun on anything is usually enough for you to kill it for free and if not then you only have to wait 3 seconds before the next one

[sacred elk]

How long goes base taser last

[quasi lance]

Normal taser has a 5 second stun on a 7 second cooldown, i dont think its too crazy besides radius

[quasi lance]

Ohh yeah then i understand

[sacred elk]

It’s only 5?

[blissful torrent]

normal taser gets broken early if you deal 10% of their max health

[sacred elk]

It feels way longer

[terse ferry]

i mean yeah but that's because it gets interrupted
when you taze an enemy you either choose to ignore it completely for 5 seconds with no risk or to interrupt an attack for a short time

[blissful torrent]

so in practice it's only a 5s stun if you're firing it at something you aren't hitting

[quasi lance]

Yeah thats why it sucks

Its needs a buff tbh

[terse ferry]

yeah but outright removing the interrupt with no other changes is a big overcorrection, especially with the aoe

rex tangling growth is one of the best CC tools in the game and it has less uptime and doesn't interrupt attacks

[quasi lance]

True, true

[vapid dagger]

5 seconds is a long time in this game

[blissful torrent]

tbh just make it pierce

[quasi lance]

It just needs SOMETHING man

[vapid dagger]

it doesnt really

[sacred elk]

5 seconds is 5 seconds

[terse ferry]

piercing would be awesome actually

[quasi lance]

True

[vapid dagger]

its actually a solid cc skill

[languid crystal]

captain’s abilities dont even matter as long as he has his m1

everything else abt captain is so quirky and i say that as a top 1% captain main

[blissful torrent]

piercing is the only buff i'd give it tbh and even then i really don't think that's needed, it'd just be nice

[terse ferry]

though if i buffed tazer i'd probably just do something to give it a use against bosses
captain doesn't need the extra boss damage but he does need a way to feel less like john primary against them

or rather john m1

[quasi lance]

It hits one guy and if you hit that guy again it does practically nothing, its only really ok on aurelionite or big monsters / elites

[languid crystal]

lol tru

i kinda js perfectly predict diablo and murk the fuck outta them

i am the greatest diablo user

[terse ferry]

diablo is a whole other fucking thing tbh 😭

[quasi lance]

I just activate tp see boss and keep it in diablo its not too hard

[languid crystal]

true thats easy too

[terse ferry]

thank you for reminding me of actually the best diablo i've ever landed and probably ever will land

[blissful torrent]

i hate diablo it's a really unique skill but i don't like having m1 and nothing else for most of the run

[quasi lance]

Most bosses dont move muchxand the ones that do (besides xi constructs and worms) can be easily led into it

[languid crystal]

one time i killed mithrix by using diablo 95% of the time

[sacred elk]

The LeBron James of Diablo strike

[languid crystal]

good work ur strong

[languid crystal]

i am a one trick (diablo)pony

his beacons lwk kinda useless so i js double shock for the annoying crowds on tp and kill everything w diablo

[quasi lance]

What if diablo was instead a constant stream of mini strikes lasting about like 10s that added up to 40,000% damage

[unique hawk]

$20 is $20

[terse ferry]

freaky arrow rain

[languid crystal]

no i like instant nuking

[vapid dagger]

hey look its that choice

[blissful torrent]

you'd still only press one button every 40 seconds so i still wouldn't enjoy it myself

[languid crystal]

i want to blow up the world man

[upper wing]

this would be kinda lame i think

[quasi lance]

I think itd just be more consistent

[languid crystal]

ur not maximizing diablo thats why

[quasi lance]

Alt choice- look for card

[upper wing]

is this referring to that one time i picked sale star from a multishop instead of an atg and immediately got icbm from the legendary chest

[languid crystal]

if i ever made content for ror2, itd be a video essay on diablo

[vapid dagger]

yeah
and i have icbm already

[upper wing]

oh well then thats a no brainer

[blissful torrent]

playing around it is neat in concept but the fact all you have for dps while you're waiting for the diablo to land is your m1 makes me reallu bored

[quasi lance]

If i did ror2 content itd be a rework ideas video

It feels like so much could be tweaked

[upper wing]

why does everything need reworks bro

[languid crystal]

take a guess what i want to rework

[quasi lance]

Cause some stuff does stink

[blissful torrent]

if i did ror2 content it would be me taking a nap

[languid crystal]

but my rework is obviously needed right

[vapid dagger]

well it would be if this didnt exist nearby

[upper wing]

“rework” is the new “powercreep”

[quasi lance]

2000mg of caffine

[sage python]

MOLOTOV !!!!!

[upper wing]

wow lmao

[blissful torrent]

caffeine makes me feel sick no thank you

[quasi lance]

Forced injection ❤️

Straight into the bloodstream

[upper wing]

just words that people use when they talk about something they dislike in game

[vapid dagger]

also

[languid crystal]

blight needs one tho

[upper wing]

shit dont mean anything anymore

[upper wing]

its fuckin blight bro

im talking about severe proposed overcorrections

[vapid dagger]

blight needs some buffs

it doesnt actually need much of a rework

they can be creative buffs

[blissful torrent]

reworks i want
seeker self-revive removal
small blight buffs
lunar ruin double scaling removal

[vapid dagger]

but they dont have to be a full on overhaul

[upper wing]

where someone is like “man i think X is a little underwhelming so what if i turned it into Y”

[blissful torrent]

also faraday spur rework i hate that item

[quasi lance]

Seeker is so fun until she just isnt

[sage python]

rework tactical dive by reverting it to make it work

[blissful torrent]

too much power on first stack and then it stacks like shit

[vapid dagger]

sale star did a funny

[upper wing]

this aint even a rework thats just fixing it

[quasi lance]

I love spur but i can admit it stacks horrendously

[blissful torrent]

it's a green it should not be 11 goat hooves on first stack

[sage python]

rework tactical dive by reverting it to make it work

[upper wing]

and then theres eclipse lite which is very underwhelming first stack AND stacks like shit

[sage python]

boom

[blissful torrent]

"11 goat hooves but you lose them temporarily if you jump" is not a balanced item design

[sage python]

‼️

[quasi lance]

The "negative" of not being able to jump is very easily avoided by just using a mobility skill or cs2 knifesliding

[sage python]

cs2 knifesliding is a really funny description

[quasi lance]

With 11 goat hooves you really dont need to jump that often

[quasi lance]

How else am i supposed to put it

[blissful torrent]

exactly!!!! it shouldn't be 11 goat hooves with an easily-avoidable downside for picking up one single green

[vapid dagger]

blessed stage

[quasi lance]

They could make spur a red and a counterpart to headst and make it so you have to hold jump instead of tapping it

[golden linden]

fished

[blissful torrent]

did you catch them

[vapid dagger]

2 icbms
2 ukuleles
an atg and a sale star
a disposable missile launcher and a shatterspleen

[golden linden]

yup

[blissful torrent]

good job i am very impressed

[golden linden]

2 tilápias 3 lambaris

[blissful torrent]

damnnn

[quasi lance]

Is this a stererosexuals reference to 1fish2fish

[blissful torrent]

good job!

[blissful torrent]

no he went fishing 😭😭😭😭

[vapid dagger]

and all of that means nothing to me bc im already invincible for playing merc

[blissful torrent]

well maybe it is a reference but he went fishing

[golden linden]

sorroundsoundsexual

[blissful torrent]

i'm mutesexual personally

[quasi lance]

If im finding commando e8 not too hard and pretty fun then i have high hopes for the other characters

[coarse merlin]

Stereosexual

[golden linden]

listentomyownmusicsexual

[sage python]

yall are a bunch of audiophiles

[quasi lance]

Will wood do that

[vapid dagger]

love the scorch worm staring me down and then shooting a wall

[quasi lance]

I love that bug theyre so silly
-# until they oneshot you

[loud yoke]

Operator is funnn

[vapid dagger]

he doesnt know where he is

[upper wing]

am i the only one that thinks spurs’ model looks kinda unfinished

[blissful torrent]

yes, you are the only person who will ever think that and you should be ashamed of yourself for having an opinion. keep it to yourself in future 🙄🙄🙄

(/j i kinda agree actually)

i hate spur so much

nothing good has ever come of that item

also the fact it charges slower depending on your framerate

[livid idol]

a mod came out that lets you edit spur stats including stacking which is very cool

haven't messed around with it personally though

i think the only spur related thing I have is making it charge independently of framerate

[quasi lance]

Chat i forgot i made this but ill put this here
-# all coming from an aroace person btw

All implications are but your own

[livid idol]

so in terms of smash or pass, the smash is if you would hit them over the head with a hammer, right?

[scenic ravine]

not cracking mult is how you know this person is a fake fan

[quasi lance]

I dont think that it would be his primary directive

[vapid dagger]

sale star not doing that great

[quasi lance]

Noxi is good i keep telling people this they dont listen 😔

[livid idol]

ac already has one

the stacking is like alright i guess

[quasi lance]

Free bleed + spreads all debuffs INCLUDING things like scorpion or shustice, poison, blight, nanobugged, and more

Yes its less duration but with a few gas it shreds

It practically just increases the range of gas

Noxi is good on almost all character s but like loader and rgunner

I love noxi

[vapid dagger]

tbh i could just get more bleed or more things that apply those debuffs instead

or a death mark

[blissful torrent]

i swear most people think noxious thorn is good tho

[vital depot]

when did people start thinking that it wasn’t

[quasi lance]

It helps more the more you have

[marble flint]

Got a bit of a random question but does the CHEF skills debuff also count for Noxious Thorn?

[quasi lance]

(This was a joke)

[vapid dagger]

it does not

ive stacked it before

[quasi lance]

Im actually not sure

[vapid dagger]

its actually kind of awful

it helps but its not very good

[terse ferry]

if you mean the stuff that makes his passive work no

[vital depot]

Nanobugged unfortunately isn’t a very great example for why it can be good, if it transfers to an enemy on the ground it disappears immediately

[quasi lance]

I meant the debuffing items not thorn itself

[uneven bloom]

@Everyone @plain narwhal this shrimp looks like a penis

[marble flint]

Ah okay ig it makes sense since it would have been too op

[blissful torrent]

if you mean the ones for his passive, they're coded as buffs so they don't interact with death mark

therefore noxious thorn doesn't spread them

[marble flint]

Alright thanks

[vapid dagger]

so does just killing the enemies faster

which makes less debuffs
and therefore less thorn use

thorn is just mid
its not bad its just not very good

if the best thing it does is grant bleed on hit its just a rarer tritip that doesnt stack which really doesnt bode well for it

[quasi lance]

Idk i think it is very good as it is just practically a free debuff + your other debuffs get spread, and debuff items are some of the best in the game

[vapid dagger]

no debuff items arent that close to the best in the game

[quasi lance]

I find it weird how it gives 10% and not 5% like prinstincts or hsythe

[vapid dagger]

proc chains are still proc chains and still blow them out of the water

[quasi lance]

Some tritips and a noxi are more common than an assortment of specific proc items, and usually gets better results on proc characters

Proc chains and debuffs work together really well tho

If we aint counting lunars or voids then tritip is genuinely up there

[vapid dagger]

i play commando regularly
and tritips are good up to a point and then fall off dramatically in favor of things that do much more immediate damage

tritip is solid A tier tho for how well it functions independantly

[blissful torrent]

tri-tip stacking is also kinda redundant after like 3-4, at that point you already have constant bleed uptime

[quasi lance]

Same here, but on an average run 3-5 tritips can carry a run past mithrix

[vapid dagger]

but id rather have watches long term

[quasi lance]

Depends on character but yeah

[vapid dagger]

sticky bombs and crits also

and the best part of shatterspleen is not the bleed it grants

the on kill blast is the real power behind it

yeah

one light goes out they all go out

shatterspleen

and the reason id rather have things like crits stickies and watches over tritips on commando is bc they all multiply eachother and more

[quasi lance]

The bleed helps kill, which leads to the overpowered ass aoe

At least on proc survivors

[vapid dagger]

bleed is a nice backup plan for when you cant find a good spread of damage items to multiply eachother

[quasi lance]

I find bleed to be a very reliable and shockingly consistent boss and big enemy melter that gets accented by damage items, if you are constantly applying bleed, then you will kill very fast, a few tritips can get ~120 stacks on end bosses until they die

[blissful torrent]

if you're stacking bleed with shatterspleen then you already have highish crit, so you have damage already

[quasi lance]

The bleed FROM the crit helps kill tanky ass enemies, leading to other small or low enemies exploding as well. It helps even if your damage is high

[vapid dagger]

yeah and a good spread of other damage items will explode the boss by the time the 10th stack wouldve gotten applied

[quasi lance]

How often are you getting the specific items you need for a good proc chain compared to a few tritips?

[vapid dagger]

extremely

[spring rose]

gupside down gip time

[quasi lance]

Idk if i see a tritip printer im getting 3 at least

On commando usually more

[vapid dagger]

i do invest in a few tritips on commando early on

[blissful torrent]

tri-tip is insanely rare now that the white item pool is so bloated, and your other options for bleed are one stack of noxious thorn for an extra 10% or a boss item that makes tri-tip useless... the only time i'm reliably stacking it is if i find a 3d printer

[vapid dagger]

but im still hoping that i eventually wont care

which is usually

i honestly use sticky bomb printers more than tritips

[quasi lance]

Idk i find stuff like stickybombs pretty rare, and when i do have them they always feel less effective than a tritip

[uneven scarab]

Dinnerbone/Grumm

[quasi lance]

I find that i will get around 1 of every white item in the game a 5 stage run because i consistently full loot

Bleed consistently guarentees i will always kill the tanky ass teleporter boss and that I can always do amalgamators and swing if i find a good amount of it

[vapid dagger]

i can consistently do those without bleed

[blissful torrent]

one tri tip is not going to give you as much value as one sticky bomb with other proc items will tho

[vapid dagger]

partially bc i loot quickly enough to outscale them being difficult

[quasi lance]

This is just comparing 1 item to 1 item + other synergistic items like

Is it not

[fair geyser]

Y'all what special should I pick for seeker, lowkey got no idea

[terse ferry]

the point is tritip doesn't really have synergies i'm p sure
except death mark i guess

[blissful torrent]

what synergises with bleed?
damage increases
what synergises with procs?
damage increases and other proc items

[vapid dagger]

bleed has a pretty middle of the road level of synergy
its good for on kill effects and raw damage ups but for proc chains and crits its not doing jack shit

[terse ferry]

the critler

[placid nacelle]

Playing RoR2 after months of Payday 2 and Marvel Rivals..... I am so freaking rusty xD

[vapid dagger]

sticky bombs work with crits and anything with a proc coef and scale up with the amount of single target damage all those do

[blissful torrent]

i don't like how this one sounds 😭😭😭

[livid idol]

this is critler actually

[vapid dagger]

and as a bonus they have a 10 meter aoe radius

[terse ferry]

brodun jumpscare!

[vapid dagger]

they also blow up faster than bleed completes its damage

[livid idol]

hi goobessa!

[fair geyser]

LOL I had a break from binding of Isaac for a couple of months and omg I'm horrible at the game now 💔

[terse ferry]

there have been multiple times i've referred to crit scope as critler

[terse ferry]

hello bordurn!
how are yew

[quasi lance]

I just seem to never find any proc chain items too good besides atg, pshrimp, and polylute ( along with the proccing reds), while getting 2-4 tritips wins me the run. Eventually ill find a good procchain build but i find it a lot rarer than bleed

[blissful torrent]

hey brodun random question what are your pronouns? i feel like they were they/them but i wanna make sure i'm not misremembering

[livid idol]

I'm alive, playtesting swarmling stuff still

[fair geyser]

Could someone pretty please answer 👉👈

[livid idol]

what about you goobessa?

[blissful torrent]

honestly comes down to which you prefer, both are perfectly viable

[quasi lance]

Palm blast for fun, meditate for good

[terse ferry]

i am good!
bored but good

[fair geyser]

Holy peak music 🥹

[fair geyser]

Okiokioki

[livid idol]

I only listen to peak

[fair geyser]

Hear me out, palm blast, and 10 purity

[terse ferry]

kid named peak:

[blissful torrent]

palm blast is good too, meditate just comes with a revive

[quasi lance]

I never find stickys good like. ever

Idk why

[vapid dagger]

i find them kind of better than crits

[terse ferry]

and a teleporter sized nuke

[fair geyser]

I thought the revive was the flower thingo, which you still have with palm blast

[blissful torrent]

yea that too

[blissful torrent]

you have tranquility with both, meditate has saving grace which is the revive

[fair geyser]

Ohhhhhh, oki

[livid idol]

thank you halc shrine, very cool

[vapid dagger]

tritips are still great btw
their independant power is definitely nothing to dismiss

[quasi lance]

The just dont do too much tbh. I think one sticky is better than one crit but one tritip is a lot better than one sticky

[terse ferry]

shalc rine

[fair geyser]

So if I'm good at the game I don't need meditate

[quasi lance]

They both stack relatively the same

[vapid dagger]

i just find they do eventually start to lack the impact that a good set of other items will have

[quasi lance]

Just chance

[fair geyser]

If I'm not mistaken, sticky doesn't stack linear which sucks

[terse ferry]

i mean not really
three tritips vs three stickies i could see an argument for but one tritip is only getting actual stacks if you highroll on mando/mul-t

[blissful torrent]

meditate does also have very good damage, palm blast does slightly more damage but doesn't have as much aoe potential

[vapid dagger]

1 tritip is getting more on rapid fire characters on its own

[mental vine]

hi I'm trying to get 100% of the logbook, does using artifact of dissonance (monsters can appear outside of their usual environments) makes a good, bad or no difference to get monster logs?

[blissful torrent]

the big difference maker is the fact that meditate gives you a revive every stage

[vapid dagger]

when other items enter the picture sticky bomb gets a lot more support

and built in aoe really makes sticky bombs stand out for me

[quasi lance]

I find bleed consistently good through the entire run while stickys fall off without other items

[blissful torrent]

monsters have a 1% chance to drop their log regardless of where you find them (3% for bosses), the big influencing factor is luck (57-leaf clover and ultimate meal increase log drop chance, purity decreases it)

[quasi lance]

They get more from other items than tritip tho but i never find that to even out

[vapid dagger]

i find it more than evens out pretty regularly

[placid nacelle]

Me being a Loki main is not good for RoR2. I keep shooting the ground.

[blissful torrent]

artifact of dissonance can help you see less common monsters a little more often which can be nice tho

[quasi lance]

Dissonance is how i got grovetender log

[worldly haven]

aegussy

[livid idol]

nice items for stage 1

[quasi lance]

I love swarmling so much i wish i had a pc

[mental vine]

thanks, the thing is there are 4 monsters that I don't have log on and idk what environment to find them on so I was thinking maybe with artifact of dissonance I'll see them more often?

[quasi lance]

Do you know which ones by chance

[blissful torrent]

if you send your logbook we can help you work out which ones they are

[uneven scarab]

aegis you can try

[blissful torrent]

then we can tell you where they spawn or you can check their respective wiki pages

[mental vine]

thanks! where can I send it?

[quasi lance]

Here

[blissful torrent]

you can send it here, but you need to grab roles from #roles first i believe

otherwise you don't have image sending perms

[worldly haven]

my dumb ass jumped into the hole in bazaar entirely forgetting i had a fuel array

[fair geyser]

Tbh I never found the hype in rivals, ive tried it a couple times but it's not really for me

[quasi lance]

So youre missing overloading worm, aurelionite, Alloy Champion, and Voidling

[livid idol]

what about solus heart, isn't that one the one next to wing

[mental vine]

thanks guys

[livid idol]

yeah that one is solus heart

[blissful torrent]

okay you're missing
aurelionite (only spawns on gilded coast)
voidling (only spawns in the planetarium)
alloy hunter (only spawns on conduit canyon)
solus heart (only spawns in neural sanctum)
and overloading worm (most commonly spawns on stage 5s with a shrine of the mountain, can't spawn before stage 4)

[livid idol]

it says it's locked but you can still get the logbook entry

[vital depot]

yeah Shart is easy to remember in that the unlock log doesn’t show right

[livid idol]

yeah

[blissful torrent]

four of those aren't affected by dissonance, all it would do is let you see overloading worm on any stage 4 instead of only abyssal depths

[quasi lance]

All of them are kinda specific
Overloading Worm - Get artifact of prestige and grind stages that can spawn magma worms
Aurelionite - Go path of the collossus.
Voidling - just play command and pet the glass frog after mithrix
Vulture - Go conduit canyon each run

[rain heron]

why can i never find a game on multiplayer? ususally nonething comes up at all

[quasi lance]

And then Solus Heart you can do alongside Vulture

I always forget his name

Its alloyed hunter i think

[worldly haven]

glad nobody saw me admitting to a mistake

[blissful torrent]

in conclusion — dissonance won't really help for the most part, for four of those entries you need to go to specific stages and the other one (overloading worm) you'll only really see on either stage 5 unless you're looping often

[worldly haven]

yeahhhh

[mental vine]

so I just get myself very lucky before going to the bosses?

[worldly haven]

not my proudest moment

[blissful torrent]

pretty much yea! artifact of swarms helps too because it spawns double the bosses so you have two chances for the log to drop

[quasi lance]

Clover DOES affect logbook drop chances btw

[blissful torrent]

i mentioned this already dw ^^

[mental vine]

yes that what I meant haha

[quasi lance]

Omg its Race

I see you get back here

[blissful torrent]

also overloading worm can be a pain because when it dies sometimes the logbook spawns inside a wall

[livid idol]

👀

[blissful torrent]

clearly said it was NotRace 🙄🙄🙄

[quasi lance]

Gas #1 white item!!!
-# maybe besides hoof

[quasi lance]

"This sign can't stop me because I can't read!"

[marble steeple]

Truth nuke

[quasi lance]

👀

There he is

[marble steeple]

This is the best sticker I've ever seen

[quasi lance]

No, this

[austere prism]

burn the world

Burn the coral, and our job will be over

[livid idol]

the boss dropped ignition tank

[placid nacelle]

Different people different strokes.

[placid nacelle]

Is it a remix of ignition? Hot and fresh out the kitchen?

[blissful torrent]

it's a sign, you gotta go all in

[livid idol]

this build took a turn

[placid nacelle]

First item Runic is wild. xD

[quasi lance]

Chat whats the most forgettable item, ill go first, Brainstalks

[meager ledge]

Hey its me mr stone from the hit anime mr stone

[quasi lance]

I cant imagine a run that needs brainstalks

[meager ledge]

Plimp is 10 billion percent the best item in the game

[placid nacelle]

Berzerker's Pauldron.

[quasi lance]

Transcendence is RIGHT THERE man

[meager ledge]

my beloved beetle

[meager ledge]

What is transcendence without plimp?

[quasi lance]

Fair

[quasi lance]

What is plimp without transcendence, what is kampener without transcendence

[placid nacelle]

A sword without an edge.

[marble steeple]

All of the lunars lowk 1.4k hours and I've used them only a handful of times

[meager ledge]

plimp is plimp❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[hearty coral]

Are they ever going to make ror2 cross play?

[livid idol]

not always working

[placid nacelle]

Probably not.

[spring rose]

LOOK AT HOW SQUISHED THIS GUP IS 😭

[hearty coral]

Why?

[placid nacelle]

Boy is SQUISHED

[livid idol]

not purple

[quasi lance]

Transcendence is Better Spaces + no fall damage + more health

And you can guarentee it every run

[marble flint]

I think for me it's gonna be Topaz Brooch

[quasi lance]

I dont think that any white item is the most forgettable, but thats up there

[placid nacelle]

Its been a few years and the issue mostly lies in how tedious it is to update on certain platforms. Its better to just focus on making a better product than to focus on crossplatform.

[quasi lance]

Brooch is good too though

[hearty coral]

Aw man

[marble flint]

Rlly? Idk maybe it's me then cuz i really find it bad

[quasi lance]

Its best with aoe

[placid nacelle]

The most forgettable white item is Bolstering Lantern.

[hearty coral]

Is it at least possible to transfer your data across platform?

[quasi lance]

I hate blantern

[vapid dagger]

ngl
scorchers are such a non threat that i have begun just kind of ignoring them bc its more of a waste of time to actually kill them than to just stay on the move bc of how bad they are at actually hitting you

[marble steeple]

False nuke blantern is amazing

[quasi lance]

Scorchers are just annoying

Not threatening

[blissful torrent]

blantern is good but i don't like it

[hearty coral]

Does the game still break after a certain amount of time in game and certain amount of stages?

[blissful torrent]

idk why i just don't

[placid nacelle]

For me its between Blantern or Eclipse Lite as the most meh white.

[marble steeple]

It's deff survivor dependant

[livid idol]

😔

[quasi lance]

The most meh white gotta be medkit bro

[flint vortex]

i was gonna argue but i can NOT 😭

[placid nacelle]

It depends. I've seen someone go round 80 and be fine even with Artifact of Swarm up but he had a monster rig that had like 128 gigs of ram and a 4090.

[quasi lance]

I dont understand how some people hate fireworks its just 8 free atg missiles when you open something

[marble steeple]

Medkit is great outside eclipse makes vields pretty easy to heal up with too

[quasi lance]

Proof that ror fans will argue just to argue

[placid nacelle]

Not just open but all interactions.

[errant marsh]

Medkits pretty cracked before e5 yeah

[flint vortex]

like i have no argument i like LEGALLY can not argue

[hearty coral]

I was just curious cause I saw a dude talking about how it breaks after a certain amount of time and I’ve played for like 3 hours and like idk 25+ stages on ps5 and was fine

[quasi lance]

Ive gotten to stage 63 on a PS5 so

And i couldve kept going

[placid nacelle]

Nah some of us can take the lumps.

[limber violet]

what sacrifice + swarms does to an mf

me when 750+ items

[errant marsh]

How long was the run

[quasi lance]

I should play sac + swarms...

[limber violet]

2 hours 10 minutes

[placid nacelle]

I mean Ive broken laptops with AoS and multi stage runs. The highest I've gone was 30 stages and I didn't dare to go further.

[livid idol]

wrong, you should play with ALL artifacts

[limber violet]

"oh if I need to go 20 rounds as commando, sacrifice and swarms should make that bearable!"

by stage 10 I couldn't even keep track of items anymore

[placid nacelle]

12 gas tanks. Some men just wanna watch the world burn.

[errant marsh]

Anyway im gonna go win a false son run because im bored

[marble steeple]

I feel like I've ruined the game for myself I genuinely can't enjoy the game outside of e8

[blissful torrent]

20 stages and only one yellow

[placid nacelle]

LASO

[quasi lance]

What command + sacrifice + swarms + prestige does to a mf

[limber violet]

[Bortus voice] Twenty. Three. Wungus

[quasi lance]

The Orb

[placid nacelle]

Legendary All Skulls On...... I feel old saying that. xD

[flint vortex]

what about the everything store?

[quasi lance]

I forget some people dont know that operator can just infinitely fly or dont know how to

Its not that hard either

[flint vortex]

idk how but ik he can

[quasi lance]

Operator is the 2nd best movement character imo

[placid nacelle]

What is your favorite item per rarity?

Mine are:
White - Mocha
Green - Noxious Thorn
Red - Sonorous Whispers
Yellow - Shatterspleen
Blue - Focused Convergence
Purple - Plasma Shrimp
Orange - Hearty Stew
Equipment - Radar Scanner

[vital depot]

1. Use default secondary and utility
2. Have transport drones ready for secondary
3. When you leap off of your drone, aim your camera where you’re moving and press secondary, your transport drone will immediately catch you because its Admin Override command tells it to fly straight forwards at the target you’re aiming at
4. Rinse and repeat
   Bonus: this works with Droneboy, Cleanup, and Equipment drones as well, maybe others too but I don’t remember

Using alt secondary I’d imagine makes every drone kinda work like this, however it makes every drone unable to be commanded outside of combat so you can’t do what I did in this clip

[placid nacelle]

I don't know how. I can't play them for the life of me.

[quasi lance]

Christ do you have that like pulled up

[vital depot]

That’s mine, i wrote it a long time ago

I’ve been advocating for double chirp for this reason since i discovered it

[placid nacelle]

Its kinda like how I have a mini tutorial for GTA ready in my clipboard. XD

[uneven scarab]

Scrap, Scrap, Sracp, Scrap, Eulogy Zero, Zoea, Quick Fix, Crowdfunder

[quasi lance]

I learned to fly without any outside help im so happy

[vital depot]

I should probably try to clean it up and simplify it a bit i guess

[livid idol]

i know what you are

[quasi lance]

-# baby birds without parents

[placid nacelle]

Quick Fix believer. Always nice to see.

[flint vortex]

quick fix from tf2?

[placid nacelle]

MEDIC!!!!!!

[flint vortex]

GET BEHIND ME DOCTOR

[quasi lance]

White - Gasoline
Green - Spur
Red - CereDaggers
Boss - Spleen
Void - Polylute
Lunar - Essence of Heresy
Equip - Tricorn

My favorites

[quasi lance]

MOVE! SNHELL!

[placid nacelle]

Polylute is my 2nd favorite Void item xD

[quasi lance]

-# i dont know how to spell shnell

EoH is so peak

Genuinely top 5 commando item

[flint vortex]

grass grows, birds fly, and brotha, i hurt people

[quasi lance]

Loader is my favorite character, but commando is my most played and main

[placid nacelle]

IDK. Shaped Glass might be my 2nd fave but I usually have 1 or 2 Focused Convergence a run.

[flint vortex]

drifter is my main favorite and most played

[placid nacelle]

Engineer main is Engi-here.

[flint vortex]

acrid is my second favorite & second most played

[placid nacelle]

Although Commando play time is right behind my Engineer time.

[cerulean dragon]

can someone give me a random survivor

[flint vortex]

artificer

[placid nacelle]

Railgunner

[cerulean dragon]

thank you :3

[blissful torrent]

jailer and bombardment drones work too iirc, maybe emergency drones as well?

[flint vortex]

ofc :D

[quasi lance]

Chat if you need music reccomendations and like alt rock listen to Chonny Jash

[cerulean dragon]

Im doing eclpise attempts but no one is truely my favorite

[lilac finch]

ralsei

[vital depot]

Bombardment yeah, Jailor I think actually doesn’t

[quasi lance]

Is that the Prince of the Dark

[flint vortex]

ralsei in ror2?

[cerulean dragon]

i havent gotten to the point of modding but thats awesome

[livid idol]

swarmling

[meager ledge]

Im taking the world by storm im dropping mh mixtape ‘crackin eggs”

[lilac finch]

soldier tf2

[vital depot]

I’m going off of the wiki here but it seems to specify whether or not the drone flies outwards and it doesn’t say that the Jailer does

[livid idol]

oh

[vital depot]

Nevermind it doesn’t say the transport drone moves either

[blissful torrent]

really? i coulda sworn it did despite not saying so in the description

[vital depot]

Ok maybe the Jailer does move

[blissful torrent]

there was something else that said it moved outwards and didn't work

i forget which

[vital depot]

I thought it shot out the cage but i dont usually buy jailer drones

[blissful torrent]

droneboy works but droneman doesn't

[vital depot]

Yeah

[worldly haven]

White - Hoof
Green - Feather
Red - Hammer
Yellow - Tentacle ;3
Blue - Beetle
Purple - I don't have the dlc
Orange - I don't have the dlc
Equipment - Radio Phone
Blue Equipment - Statue
Aspect - Her Biting Embrace

[vital depot]

How-To: Operator’s Ascent Protocol Tech

1. Equip default secondary and utility
2. Use Utility
3. Jump (optional), then leap away from current drone
4. When you leap off of your drone, aim your camera where you’re moving and use secondary, your selected drone (if applicable) will catch you
5. Rinse and repeat

Applicable drones include: CHIRP/Transport, Cleanup, Equipment, Droneboy, Bombardment, TC-280, Jailer (?)

[blissful torrent]

which one is tentacle? i'm blanking

[worldly haven]

big boom squid

[blissful torrent]

OH

GLOOP

[vital depot]

Emergency Drones i remember cant do it

[meager ledge]

plum

[worldly haven]

wait, the tentacle isn't from the squid?

[blissful torrent]

it is from the squid

[worldly haven]

oh

[blissful torrent]

i just forgot what its model was

[quasi lance]

Misc Favorites
Enemy - Jailer
Boss - Amalgamate
End Boss - False Son
Music Track - You're gonna need a Bigger Ukulele / I Should Build The Man A Statue
Environment - Viscous Falls
Drone - Cleanup
Primary Weapon - Operator Pistol
Secondary - Loader Grapple
Utility - Operator Ascend
Special - Ruin

[worldly haven]

wrong tentacle

is it from the blue worm

that's the only other electric boss i can think of

[blissful torrent]

the blue worm's item is one of its teeth i believe, it's the chance to call down a lightning strike when you hit something

[worldly haven]

yea, the tentacle that calls down lightning

[blissful torrent]

the squid's item is the one that makes you explode when you get low

[livid idol]

not every run has good items 😔

[placid nacelle]

That is a tooth.

[worldly haven]

this looks like a tentacle

[placid nacelle]

Its the electric version of Magma Worm's.

[worldly haven]

the magma worm's item does look like a tooth, but this is totally a tentacle, look at how it's shaped

[vital depot]

It’s a tooth

[worldly haven]

this thing is NOT hard

[vital depot]

it’s a bit tricky but the log talks about it

[blissful torrent]

it's the same part of the animal's anatomy, it's a worm's tooth (that one is just jagged because lightning theme)

[vital depot]

Timestamping for dance break

[placid nacelle]

You don't know that. Anything is a [REDACTED] if you try hard enough.

[blissful torrent]

hence why they're both called perforators

[forest crest]

what if it's a nose

[blissful torrent]

"i am going to perforate this human with my nose"

[forest crest]

yeah

[placid nacelle]

Gavin Free nose headass.

[forest crest]

[placid nacelle]

Igor from Persona nose headass