ror2-discussion

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I'm in a public space and would get crucified if I turn my audio on

[terse ferry]

no earphones pensive

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Wait you only got two headgears??

Deadass???

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you said earlier your castorice ult was doing 12k total to three targets right

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Atp just scrap farm

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kekw

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Oh my god they don't have relics leveled

[vagrant jungle]

some nice ror2 discussion

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what are we doing Madeline

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i told you its fucking raw

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I deadass thought your pfp was John arbuckle

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I didn't realize your castorice was on life support??

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YES

[vagrant jungle]

hoooly madeline from celeste i love that game

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FUCKING YES

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took long enough but i found nsfw signs in 2fort

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you need to level up those relics 💔

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SHE IS ON LIFE SUPPORT RN

[terse ferry]

i don't normally pay attention to damage numbers so i didnt process this much earlier but i got a frame of reference and eviline i need confirmation here

[vagrant jungle]

did this chat always have slow mode

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Yes

Wait... maybe not originally. But for a very long time yes

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gng the stats are really not ideal and i dunno if i can afford to randomly upgrade shit pieces

[sonic tangle]

this is a metaphor for politics

[sacred elk]

Spenser

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You need to do ~1 mil damage per burst to 3srar current endgame content

You're missing out on at least like 400 jades

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You can use the upgraded piece to upgrade a different piece

One level 15 piece upgrades a level 0 piece to level 14

Also do you auto-scrap 4* relics into exp or

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How much is 14-15 though

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Like 30 blue fragments

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upgraded pieces also give a lot of relic scrap if you ever need it
idk if the trade is worth it tho

[livid idol]

Thats a lot of crystal meth

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It's not

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makes sense

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you generally don't need a lot of scrap

since events and simulated/divergent universe give so much

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true!

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wait have y'all played currency wars yet

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yeag

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was it fun

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It's like the arknights event

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omg ts is ass

[terse ferry]

fun but the higher difficulties become number hell
kinda applies to all the side modes tho

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This is peak ??

[sonic tangle]

i hope arknights never makes us gamble for equipment

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You can just run seele and win afaik

seele teams are absurdly broken in CW

[terse ferry]

the issue IS less prominent in currency wars tho because you don't need to pull or build the characters yourself

[sacred elk]

I hope

Marvel tokon is good

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also is hsr gameplay even good

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h

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it's cool

[sacred elk]

I hope that the hc characters aren’t crazy bloated

I have few wants in life

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There's strategy and timing in endgame content

[sonic tangle]

ok cool

[livid idol]

Seele is not cute pink girls, therefore invalid

[terse ferry]

it's fun yeah

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Take the critdamage critrate

We are not risking a SPD roll

[terse ferry]

she is ourple tho...

[sacred elk]

Because it’s cool and fun looking

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i wont play it i just hope people arent playing chud simulator with anime girls

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what should i

[terse ferry]

she's also canon yuri

[livid idol]

Mmmmm ourple

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im lowk skipping ts rn

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What the fuck are you doing

[sacred elk]

Chud yuri

[clever seal]

fuck you im resining it

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We don't do this unless it's a special occasion

[terse ferry]

like extremely canon yuri actually
like she's an expy of a seele from a different game and that same exact ship is hypercanon in said game

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fine ...

[sacred elk]

I said because it’s cool looking

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You get 2 resins per month you cannot afford this

[sacred elk]

Marbel token

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This game loves yuri

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yay no thumbs up

[sonic tangle]

just got pot 5 crownslayer

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imma roll boots first

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Sparxie gives Yuri vibes imo

[terse ferry]

seele bronya acheswan amphoreous what else

[livid idol]

Marvel tokon is made by arc sys so uh balancing might be bad

[terse ferry]

i like how i can just say the entire planet of amphoreous is gay

[sacred elk]

What if instead of risk of rain 2 it was risk of rain 2

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on second thought, this is acceptable

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Sure

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break effect is basically shit but sure better than none

[terse ferry]

there is not a single straight man or woman on the greek-inspired planet

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Y'all are so lucky you didn't pull sw999

She's hellish to build

[terse ferry]

she's hell to build isn't she

[sonic tangle]

this guy keeps friendly killing

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Wants speed but doesn't want turns

[sacred elk]

Shocker

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Doesn't want attack but doesn't need HP either

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Whats that lesbian glass game

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hear me out:

[terse ferry]

glass game???

[sonic tangle]

i thought you said hear me out in reference to a foot fetish

[sacred elk]

So true

[sonic tangle]

[steady vector]

No like... lesbians and glass. A game about that

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Yaoguang is her BIS but she's also required for evanescia

[sacred elk]

I do not understand a single thing being spoken

[sonic tangle]

this heavy is just laughing at a wall

[sacred elk]

Regular heavy behavior

[terse ferry]

fun fact this is why i was asking for your opinion on castorice supports
currently im running memblazer + ruan mei on cas

i also have firefly 😭

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Oh my god

[steady vector]

Wait nevermind I remember

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What are we doing goobessa

[sacred elk]

Firefly like the Batman villain

And the scorch shot rework

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@mild cloak resin here?

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ok he attracted 2 other heavues

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you get one mainstat guarantee as a treat

[terse ferry]

very good question

[sacred elk]

I know 8 seconds of bleed is the meme everyone knows grouches rebalance for but I feel like the danger shield and scorch shot aren’t talked about enough

[sonic tangle]

the firefly

[terse ferry]

actually though who even are good cas supports other than memblazer obviously-hyacine and tribbie

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Wait why are you using firefly without dahlia

nvm don't give firefly the ruanmei she won't do shit

[sacred elk]

He turned the danger shield into moon jumps and better speed than scout and the scorch shot into a weapon that floods the airspace with projectiles like tohou

Only a mad genius could come up with ass like this

[terse ferry]

pull poverty during the last dahlia banner i think?

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Oh

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and obviously the current one is paired with cas so

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i dont like the way this is going

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it's over for you

[sonic tangle]

ok we turned the server friendly

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How many main dps characters do you have

[sacred elk]

It was so hard

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do you really want the answer

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fuck it im grinding su

why the fuck not

[sacred elk]

How to make a 2fort friendly
Step 1 use a taunt

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Quantum damage% is better on cas

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Yeah

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uhhh fuck wait lemme check then

it is too many though

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Oh no

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The heavy corner

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cas therta firefly acheron

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What the fuck

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The horner

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also archer i guess but again no plans with him

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And that's 5 with evanescia

[terse ferry]

i claimed him when he was free then didnt do shit

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had to censor a name in the killfeed

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Okay so you have 5 main dps and you don't have a single one of their best-in-slots

Other than castorice and hyacine I guess

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silly2

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This isn't silly 2

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bro the entire server is friendly now

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i will probably be saving more after this eva banner at least

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This is silly²

Tribbie might be able to un-cook your account

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tribbie IS gonna be alongside eva banner so possibly but i'd probably need to be lucky if i don't wanna grind everything out

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the 2fort experience

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You'll have to get lucky

You could also grind simulated universe

Swarm disaster and gold&gears give a ton of jades

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true!

i played some swarm and gears earlier funnily enough

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swarm and gears are fun imo

they got powercrept though

[terse ferry]

gamemode powercreep situation is crazy

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bro this guy won 4 rock paper scissors in a row

5 wtf

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divergent universe is just way better imo

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6 omg

[languid crystal]

buff captain

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ok wtf

ok he lost

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It gives me slay the spire vibes

[terse ferry]

i like to play divu and the simu modes in rotation
prevents their gimmicks from getting stale

[sonic tangle]

he won rps 7 times in a row

and then he lost and left what a gamer

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Currency wars is the only mode I play

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oh my fucking god this barely qualifies

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I think I'm maxed out on rewards

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What is that HP stat

Something is wrong here

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you are NOT gonna like this

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20% critrate??

Do you have critrate traces

Please tell me you do

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no traces for now

[terse ferry]

5623 is fine for a cas that's on life support like maddy's is at least

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Oh

But 20% crit

[sonic tangle]

do yall like my pyro

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That's 52% with set bonus

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oh speaking of, what even actually shows in the stat screen
i remember checking to see if traces did but i never checked for relics

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Traces show in stat screen

[terse ferry]

or rather relic set bonuses

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Relic stat buffs show in stat screen

relic set bonuses don't show

[terse ferry]

gotchaaa
how strange

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it's stupid

52% critrate 💔 💔 💔

Critrate traces will add around 20% more at least

72% is manageable

Max out all your stat traces btw

They're really important

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certified FUCKED

[sacred elk]

Brelic

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Main dps characters usually gain ~20% critrate and 40% crit damage

[terse ferry]

1842 atk on cas is cursed to see

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and elation characters NEED their elation stat traces

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oh yea instava in case i havent yet, thats still base crit stat so it should be "a bit" less fucked

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62% with no traces?

That's... Fine

Goes up to 80%

Harmony LCs usually give 10% critrate

so if you get a support with one of those you'll be fine

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eyes

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I deadass have done nothing and I'm already tired 😭

[terse ferry]

forgot for a moment that tribbie was harmony

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I can't wait to talk about hs-🛌

[sonic tangle]

arknights

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Yeah most amphoreus characters are just other paths that have remembrance slapped on

If you actually do want to build seele

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my brain does kinda just lump all the amphoreus characters into remembrance

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I'd maybe suggest vonwaqc and eagle sets

[terse ferry]

except cipher i just consistently forget cipher's path

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they give her a lot of turns and energy regen

Which means she gets more extra turns

Which means the enemy can't play the game

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to be completely honest i don't even know how to use seele because she's like the only(?) character that focuses on on-kills

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Seele doesn't synergize with e1 tribbie fyi

Same with robin iirc

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You just need to spam her skill and ult

Basic attack during extra turns for 20% action advance

turn-based game when I just don't give them a turn

[sonic tangle]

wtf 2 identicaly looking medics with ubersaws just tore through 3 peop;le

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Seele with cerydra is genuinely so goodd

[sonic tangle]

oh my god theyre going crazy

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action order is my favorite hud element because it visualizes how fucking stupid turn stealing is

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Welt is also a good main dps now

[terse ferry]

oh yeah he had novaflare

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He deals stupid damage with the right team iirc

[sacred elk]

The sub plot of a kids action movie

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honestly I think they should buff acheron

[sage python]

@terse ferry she has pretty pink hair so you should watch (i started download half an hour ago my internet is awful)

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Give her a global passive too pls

[sage python]

it finally sent lol

[terse ferry]

pretty

[terse ferry]

acheron global passive would go hard actually

hey doesn't swolf have a global

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Yeah

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999 swolf

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All anni characters do

Other than Acheron of course

[terse ferry]

giving her one of the best cutscenes in penacony but no global </3

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Sw999 gets rid of cc effects and makes you immune to them for one turn

[sage python]

its about her gambling her life away at the age of 21 its so peak

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Cc effects are freeze, imaginary break thing, etc

Stuff that stuns you

[sacred elk]

Gamblig

[terse ferry]

i was gonna say "anything effect res pretty much" then remembered enemies do actually apply burn and bleed sometimes

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I prefer Cassie global passive but I have both

Cassie global is just too good

[sonic tangle]

oh my god what the fuck

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Makes you avoid death once for free

[sonic tangle]

jarate inspect animation has liquid sloshing sfx

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perfect for sustaimless teams

[terse ferry]

dio's if it was awesome

[sonic tangle]

thats nasty

[terse ferry]

how do globals even work in modes like MoC or PF actually

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They just work

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fucking awesome

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I think apoc is the hardest endgame mode rn

Other than anomaly arbitration ofc

but AA doesn't drop jades

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overall probably but the current apoco shadow i actually have no problems with rn

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I still haven't done current PF I think

I gotta get to clearing my endgames 💔

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normally my main problem with the endgame modes later on is lacking consistent sustains other than hyacine but fu is actually surprisingly good into sparxicon

her weakness to aoe only applies to like half or a quarter of the fight

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Sparxicon is elation shill

[terse ferry]

is it?

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Yeah?

Sparxicon has 40% quantum res iirc

[sonic tangle]

bro?

[terse ferry]

what </3

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Also the summons she spawns take 20% less damage until they take elation damage

[sonic tangle]

2fort is funny

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Sparxicon hardcounters remembrance I think

40% res to quantum ice and wind

[terse ferry]

jeez

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yeah you basically need an elation team for her

If you want to clear with 3 stars

[terse ferry]

at least the second half is swarm king which is like

i wanna say one of the easiest but therta and cas might be making me biased

aoe heaven over there

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Seele genuinely mogs him

[terse ferry]

oh shit i guess she would actually huh

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Yup

So many extra turns

Also they're weak to quantum iirc

I really wish they'd give us the 5star LC materials for free

I need that seele LC

[sonic tangle]

how long has it been since we talked about ror2

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if I manage to get her to e2s1 then I can probably 0-cycle all the content

[sonic tangle]

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Good idea this might be a bingo space let's check

[terse ferry]

since before i had my lunch

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do yall fw pikmin

[terse ferry]

all i know about pikmin is that olimar's his name and smash is a game (he's in)

[sonic tangle]

pikmin is full of scrunkly goobers

theres nothing quite like pikmin

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It has only been 2 hours of being off-topic

We are not getting a bingo space 😭

[sonic tangle]

lets get goobessa into arknights

join us goob

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I've seen a lot of people just say arknights isn't for them

and it's genuinely so confusing for me

this game has everything

[sonic tangle]

maybe they dont like tower defense smh

[terse ferry]

space shall be made on my tablet

[sonic tangle]

hell yeah

arknights gameplay is really good and lowkey better than every other td

[mild cloak]

You can play for the characters, the story, the gameplay, the challenge, the gacha, the sick ass roguelike mode, the skins, the base minmaxing

[sonic tangle]

gonna play stronghold protocol rn

[terse ferry]

min named max:

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stronghold is peak

[sonic tangle]

need to finish it because my dumbass claimed all the rewards before they expanded the rewards

so i dont get any of them and ned to play more

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I could hop on but I'll be on mobile

[sonic tangle]

im playing solo anyway

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Oh

There's apparently this slightly overpowered combo

[sonic tangle]

wtf

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you just need stainless and executor alter iirc

[sonic tangle]

what does stainless do for this

[sonic tangle]

um

lmao

[sonic tangle]

what the fuck

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Executor gains 2 funds when losing 7 ammo and stainless places turrets that can be attacked indefinitely

[sonic tangle]

im gonna play normally thanks

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Aw

Stronghold protocol is just currency wars but harder

[sonic tangle]

im playing medium

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And multiplayer

[clever seal]

what the actual fuck you say now

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PV-EX-8 was really fun actually

I won the duel and then 5 of my operators died at the same time

[livid relic]

I used to listen to a shit ton of metal when I was like 13 years old

I’m just getting back into that

[pure axle]

what kind

[livid relic]

What I’m listening too rn

Uhh metalcore I looked it up

[pure axle]

of course

[livid relic]

Let me use fm again

[pure axle]

tbh most modern metalcore just kinda sucks

i used to listen to a lot of it before i found actually good bands

[livid relic]

I haven’t listened to that in like 4 years

I’m not up to date tbh

If you have recommendations I’m up for it

[pure axle]

if youre trying to get back into metal or smth i suggest you try listening to some of the more classic bands, like uhhhhh megadeth, metallica, slayer, pantera, death

[mild cloak]

3 hours

[livid relic]

I’m very surface on most of those

[pure axle]

even more reason to listen to them id say

[livid relic]

I guess I could go into a slayer album

[sonic tangle]

its not very hard

s-5 is the one that scares me

[sly copper]

I’ve been into it for the last year or so

[pure axle]

sleep token tag

[thorn ivy]

is there a way to suggest stuff for ror2

[sly copper]

Ye

[pure axle]

[sly copper]

They are just unique as hell lol

[thorn ivy]

found it nvm

[pure axle]

sure whatever you say pal

[sly copper]

I mean in my experience noone else is like them

[pure axle]

wait wikipedia doesnt even recognize sleep token as metal

[sly copper]

just check Gods idk what wiki is smoking lol

[pure axle]

some of the song being screaming and loud doesnt make it metal

[old python]

Chef or commando.

[sly copper]

whatever u say

very disturbed by the tag i have apparently

had to point out n say its not metal lmao

[eager barn]

operator

[sly copper]

I already knew beforehand but i had to check for you

[sturdy knot]

Does everyone just run Doc and Crosshairs on operator?

Or do you guys think any other combos are good

[eager barn]

double crosshairs is the strongest for default secondary by a fair bit id say

alt secondary just whatever lol, they just serve as starter drones

however ofc pick what you like

i use double chirp

[mild cloak]

Chance to... Do everything in the game??

[sly copper]

I go with double crosshairs because uhh i use the default secondary and having two gunner drones ready to spam bullets feels good lol

[sturdy knot]

agreed

[sly copper]

yee

also its prolly just me not being used to it yet but amp core saying it deals 2k% damage doesnt feel like it any reason why, yes im getting the circle up to red too

[sturdy knot]

Same. It should be closer to railgunner's shot with a stat that high, but it feels more like 500% damage

[sly copper]

True

[sturdy knot]

Das why I dropped amp core

It feels really underwhelming

[sly copper]

idk maybe im doing something wrong i recently unlocked it and played like a few games

[sturdy knot]

I also thought I was doing smth wrong but no amp core is just that unreliable

[sly copper]

Nanobugs and spamming default secondary feels great

[sly copper]

Ripp

I like default kit way more tbh

[sturdy knot]

I switch to firewall occasionally

Being able to block stuff always feels great

Altho it doesnt work on exploding projectiles like greater wisps' rip

[eager barn]

ive started running 122233

amp core and firewall pair in a fun way

[sturdy knot]

Agreed

I thought amp core was on a fundamental level cool

But the issue is that even at full charge the damage is underwhelming and getting it to full charge is inconsistent

[sly copper]

Haven’t unlocked firewall yet but i dont wanna give up the cool mobility skill operator has

[sturdy knot]

The aggro thing is also inconsistent cause enemies attack slowly and the aggro range is too small

[sturdy knot]

Firewall feels great but yeah every time you run it you are constantly reminded of the probably coolest mobility ability in the game that you are not using

[eager barn]

the agro range is fine id say

they can switch attention back to yer pretty quickly though

[sly copper]

Yeahhh

[eager barn]

i think its only one taunt at the start, unless they changed it in 1.4.1

[eager barn]

its got something similar to blast jumping its not too bad

[sturdy knot]

It doesnt give you much speed laterally tho

[eager barn]

the limitiation changes him up a bit so it gives some variety to the survivor overall

[sturdy knot]

Agreed

Firewall is great for kiting

[eager barn]

i switch operator kit around most of any survivor

[sturdy knot]

You kite the entire swarm of enemies, put up firewall and they cant do anything

[sturdy knot]

Do you ever use anything other than DOC and/or Crosshairs combos

[eager barn]

121133, 122233 and 112112 are my favs

sorry if thats hard to parse

[sturdy knot]

I dont get it

Is that including the passive

[sly copper]

o wait u can use firewall to jump?

[sturdy knot]

Yes

[eager barn]

ya

[sly copper]

Thats pretty coool

[eager barn]

it also pushes and charges amp core to clump up enemies

[sly copper]

But still default drone floating is so gud

[sturdy knot]

Yea pushing amp core feels great

[eager barn]

really cool alt for a really cool default skill

[sturdy knot]

Firewall is neat cause it has no limit on how much ti can tank

And its literally a wall. Anything a wall blocks, firewall does too

[sly copper]

Unlocking it is so hard without tricorn i haven’t tried it yet cause i dont wanna do a command run lol

[sturdy knot]

Reminds me of using junk cube as drifter for cover

Like when you fight false son or the big flying rhombus

And they go "take my super laser piss"

and you go "haha ok"

And then firewall just tanks it.
It's great

[eager barn]

these are the loadouts i switch between

[sturdy knot]

Are transport drones any good

I tried using them for chests but it felt really sucky

[eager barn]

the override isnt

but on the loadouts i use them i use alt seco secondary so that doesnt matter

[sturdy knot]

Oh right

[eager barn]

the attack they do passively is good

[sturdy knot]

Yea fair then. I do recall transport drones' own attacks strong

[eager barn]

it does % based damage (fall damage) in an aoe

[sturdy knot]

Like 2000 damage strong

[eager barn]

so they scale great

though admittedly i use them because i think their logbook is cute and they have a unique model lol

[sturdy knot]

Yea ill try it next time I run swarm

[eager barn]

it depends on what they pick up, but if they pick up a chunky enemy and drop it on a group, the damage is proportional to the chunky enemy's health which is cool

swarm drone picks dont matter awfully much tho tbf lol yeah

[sturdy knot]

Swarm feels great with how consistent of an upgrade it is

[eager barn]

the override ability doesnt do this, its flat damage

[sturdy knot]

But every time I run it I feel like im just playing engie

[eager barn]

i like consistency <- main

both secondaries are cool and override is mostly well executed which is nice

[mild cloak]

But swing ain't blockable so firewall sucks

It would've been cool if it had an interaction with giant death beam or smth

[sly copper]

now im thinking of halcyonite, i wonder if the sword can somehow hit me if the hitbox is too big for firewall

also are u able to run while firewall is up, i assume not

[eager barn]

you cant run with it up nah

you can shoot though

operator is so damn cool...

i remember when the primary was revealed and i wrote a paragraph or two about how cool i thought it was

[sly copper]

[eager barn]

there are a few things id personally like to see have been done differently

but wholstically ??

hes so epic

💚

[summer bolt]

Kill operator…

[sly copper]

[thin saddle]

Repair it

[sly copper]

[thin saddle]

Thank you

[eager barn]

who are yalls most frequently played roster of survivors?

for me its

i like them because they are all somewhat simple, fill an archetype succinctly and are part of the rescue team

operator has some complexity but i generally pick the skills that make him fit that descriptor

[eager barn]

has also been creeping up into a frequent pick

i like her base kit a lot, shes interesting

nano bomb and flamethrower rewarding but not necessitating full usage is cool and i like env

cross map direct nanobombs are also pretty satisfying

[scarlet jacinth]

operator is fun but I also just feel like brain mush when playing him

when trying to use ur movement and you have a lot of drones and then like 20 scorchers and other enemies

[eager barn]

difficulty discerning drones yer mean?

[scarlet jacinth]

yeah it can be annoying at times

[eager barn]

drones fly towards you if you look at them whilst drone hopping

pretty helpful as you can spin camera and one will often bumble over

also jumping then diving ofc gives airtime

i know what yer mean tho

[pure axle]

we couldve had miner instead of operator

[polar cobalt]

well this is a cool view

[thin saddle]

YOU FOOL! YOU SALE STARRED THE SOLUS WING! YOU DOOMED US ALL!

[polar cobalt]

xdddd

[sturdy knot]

Easily best primary

[eager barn]

its my fav for sure

the two complexities are both pretty simple, if that makes sense

its got more to consider than most primaries, but yet is more effable than false son primary for example

i could talk about the different applications of the charge states for ages :)

[mild cloak]

Soon

[eager barn]

i also like double tap for this reason

its wayy more simple ofc, yet the bloom does introduce some interesting challenges

i like how at range its not a dps loss to use it practically as an agile skill

tap fire resprint im talking

i find it an interesting enough skill to not mind suppressive fire being it with only a few additional changes

[sonic tangle]

15

[mild cloak]

I'll get her maxed out soon

I'm focusing on module rn

[sonic tangle]

fair enough

[sonic tangle]

i dont use crownslayer because i have texalter but i did build her

[old python]

Is artificer blind?

[mild cloak]

Crownslayer is apparently really busted with exe-y

[sonic tangle]

i also might throw the executor gang out for silverash s2

[mild cloak]

full uptime stun for like 20 seconds iirc?

[sonic tangle]

isnt that assuming like less than x targets within range

[mild cloak]

Still great for bosses

[sonic tangle]

or else crownslayer will get distracted by too many enemies

true!

[mild cloak]

20 seconds of stun is 20 seconds of stun

Can't really complain about it

[sonic tangle]

[mild cloak]

I might build hadiya next

I like the idea of a guard that spends dp to be really strong

[sonic tangle]

il wait for a 6 star of that branch

[mild cloak]

It's gonna be in the MH collab

I'm betting that it's gonna be a switch-axe or smth

[sonic tangle]

ngl idk why its its own branch

why cant it be applied to any branch

blast caster that spends even more dp

splash caster that spends even more dp

i guess we already had merchants huh

[terse flicker]

phew

[errant marsh]

Risk of rain 2

[sturdy knot]

i just realized the credits now have seekers of the storm and alloyed collective concept art

Altho alloyed collective has way less concept art than seekers of the storm, in the credits at least

[molten hound]

6 hours remain until slimepost

[sturdy knot]

Probably the concept art they had made for alloyed collective didn't fit in as well or smth

[mild cloak]

I'm pretty sure the gimmick itself isn't that special

But Equipment Alteration is a cool mechanic

That might get used with other classes

[errant marsh]

How much slime

[mild cloak]

It's basically a "do this thing and your skill is stronger" mechanic

[sonic tangle]

hmmmm

[agile kestrel]

Why do people say commando is bad?

I havent played any other class a lot outside of Artificer but Commando actually seems really good

Have yall seen what hes capable of when you stack him with lens-makers glasses, tri-tip dagger, soldiers syringes, brilliant behemoth, sawmerang, and shatterspleen

[terse ferry]

they equate "works with a lot of items" to "needs items to be good" pretty much

[golden linden]

those items go well in multiple characters

it's more a question of presentation than realization

commando shoots and rolls and looks like a pill man

[terse ferry]

he's also a very average and consistent survivor when a lot of people tend to like the survivors who give you big dopamine boosts

[golden linden]

while huntress has a scarf shoots light arrows flips around and shit

it's very hard to perceive the potential of shooting quite fast and being able to move efficiently about

and by time you realize

you can't help but compare to what else you have available

[errant marsh]

Survivor powercreep btw

[golden linden]

some will that that comparison with "well yeah but the simplicity is what makes it cool"

[atomic venture]

you made me realize i never watched credits

[golden linden]

and others won't help themselves and compare to how much better you could have had

if you picked anyone else

[agile kestrel]

ah

[golden linden]

which for me it's a false equivalent because you aren't competing with anyone

[agile kestrel]

im gonna probably buy the DLC

[errant marsh]

False? Son

Wait....

[errant marsh]

Ror2 is a pvp game when I'm playing with my friends

[golden linden]

it is if you're bad at the videogame

money gain rate is the same across all players

[errant marsh]

I was joking

[golden linden]

just go look for chests

[molten hound]

just got a runic lens from a chance shrine (no doll)

[errant marsh]

Usually im the one with all the items lol

[molten hound]

i will never hate on a chance shrine again

[golden linden]

yeah that computes as being ass at the videogame

[golden linden]

huge

[errant marsh]

Massive

Now get electric boomerang and clover 🔥

[molten hound]

there was electric boomerang in newts but i didnt get it

all my greens were too good

I J UST GOT ANOTHER FUCKING RUNIC LENS

FROM A DAMAGE CHEST

[errant marsh]

Pretty good

[golden linden]

the overspiller

[errant marsh]

Overspill

[terse ferry]

underfill:

[errant marsh]

What...

[molten hound]

garphonso

[terse ferry]

damage and proc chance are reduced the lower the damage of the triggering hit is

[molten hound]

im playing chef

[errant marsh]

Chef 🔥

[molten hound]

so id say im pretty good

[errant marsh]

My favorite mid tier character according to many tier lists

[molten hound]

hes not mid

[errant marsh]

Ik

[molten hound]

yes chef primary MELTS bosses if you get close

[errant marsh]

Im just saying he gets put there a lot lmao

[thin saddle]

I guarantee you people would risk chef way higher if he looked cool

You eat with your eyes first or something

[errant marsh]

People who put chef in mid tier never played him 😭

[thin saddle]

Yeah cause he looks stupid!

[errant marsh]

They just be going of the vibes its hilarious

[thin saddle]

He's very strong tho much love

Yeah no one fw chef in the youtube space

So they can't get youthbe shorts about how strong chef is

[molten hound]

if they gave chef sick ass sunglasses everyone would love him

i swear to god if i get another goddamn wandering vagrant

[thin saddle]

Yeah like sunglasses are useful for wandering!.. hmmm I got an idea..

[errant marsh]

If they gave him a cool name like chef mcgraw and he had sunglasses everybody would put him top 3

[molten hound]

it was mending dunestrider

[thin saddle]

They rename him Chef the Shredder and it will be above railgunner in tierlists

[errant marsh]

Where he belongs 🙏

[golden linden]

chef is right where he belongs in this list of mine

[thin saddle]

Chef SFX needs to sound better bro everthing sounds like a fart

[errant marsh]

True false son is c tier

[molten hound]

is this mario again

[thin saddle]

Is this based off fun or what

[errant marsh]

And seeker is d tier

[golden linden]

is it

[thin saddle]

Mario can't hurt you now..

[golden linden]

she could have been E

[errant marsh]

True she's really weak

She explodes after using meditate 7 times

Idk why they'd make an ability that kills you

[golden linden]

or what

[molten hound]

is it based off strength?

[thin saddle]

Meditate is a healing practice so it should give instant max hp I think

[thin saddle]

What wizard said

[golden linden]

nope

[molten hound]

how dare you

[thin saddle]

I'm assuming it's based off fun which I partially agree

[molten hound]

is it based off looks

[thin saddle]

I don't really get how some people like engineer that much but each their own

[golden linden]

it's not fun either I already have a fun list

[molten hound]

wait no not possible

bandit is f tier

[thin saddle]

Operator is ugly

Ugly creature die die

[golden linden]

you're edging it

[errant marsh]

Is this based around colors

[molten hound]

....cuteness...?

[thin saddle]

No way 😭 holy shitt

[golden linden]

ding ding ding ding ding

[molten hound]

what do they win

[golden linden]

winner winner chicken dinner

[thin saddle]

I wouldn't really call seeker green tho

[molten hound]

roast dinner

[molten hound]

more of a brown

[thin saddle]

She is beige for a good reason

[golden linden]

me neither but she is not quite belong mul-t and commando either

[errant marsh]

A lot of her abilities are green at least

[thin saddle]

F kinda fits

[errant marsh]

And also yellow

Hrrrm

[thin saddle]

We ain't talking about abilities tho!! If that's the case then acrid will be green

Greencrid

[molten hound]

i still have no idea what solus transporters do

[thin saddle]

This is my rendition of Acrid

[golden linden]

the big ones?

[thin saddle]

Shield allies and spawn a huge annoying gravity circle

[molten hound]

small ones that look like the big ones

[thin saddle]

The similar ones that solus control units have

[errant marsh]

I hate solus transporters

[golden linden]

they apply a slowing effect in an area

that sucks you to it's epicenter after some time

[molten hound]

happy appy

[golden linden]

they are quite hp chonky

so really troublesome on e8

if a bunch of them happen to spawn

[thin saddle]

AC by far has the worse enemies to deal with

The Solus are like robo-nazis

[errant marsh]

I only really find the AC enemies worse than sots in eclipse

[willow cobalt]

free bro

[errant marsh]

They're just so fucking fast in eclipse

[molten hound]

uh

oh my fucking god its another runic lens

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON

THIS IS MY THIRD RUNIC LENS

[thin saddle]

Ok children are ass but I don't really mind the others

[molten hound]

i think they meant sotv?

idrk

[errant marsh]

Scorch worms are the worst enemy ever conceived

[thin saddle]

Really? I don't really mind em but idk

[errant marsh]

I am STILL mad about this

It's been months

I genuinely had to take a fucking break after that

[vapid dagger]

It shot something else first too

Which would normally give you the impression that its fine to approach bc its not aiming at you

So cool and well designed enemy

[molten hound]

hello AbandonedCorpse

[vapid dagger]

Im aspect collector right now And you havent paid yet

[pearl summit]

This is how it feels playing Iron Alluviam

[errant marsh]

Especially since they're just shoot you through walls occasionally

[molten hound]

jokes on you i dont HAVE an aspect

[pearl summit]

I've had scorch wurms come out of the ground inside of me while I'm mid-air as loader

[vapid dagger]

Oh yeah they were given the ability to teleport to your location

[molten hound]

praying for sirens call rn

or repurposed

[pearl summit]

Incredibly embarrassing enemy

Genuinely a stain on the game lol

[errant marsh]

Still not as bad as ac release distributors

[vapid dagger]

This is something they added onto the enemies AFTER their initial release btw

[pearl summit]

What...

[pearl summit]

It seems to be possible to replicate with captain's laser as well

[errant marsh]

Especially since there's a multiplayer bug that makes them invincible to non host players

Fun fact

[haughty crag]

ngl i want gearbox to do a "jank cleanup" patch before dlc4

ror2 as of right now has quite alot of jank

[pearl summit]

The devs need to make the multiplayer actually good

[haughty crag]

also i feel like the game just isnt that smooth

[pearl summit]

They need to fix it

[haughty crag]

compared to before

[errant marsh]

Especially invincible distributors 😭

They're invisible too btw

[haughty crag]

[TITLE CARD] and When you can't say my name????

[pearl summit]

Genuinely just use the mod to remove enemies and remove distributors

That's crazy

[errant marsh]

I wish bro

I play on console

[pearl summit]

How is that even a bug😭

Do they just not playtest the game bro

[quick plume]

Yeah and the latest dlc just feels like a bunch of hallowed concepts

[molten hound]

did you guys know that solus extractors actually have arms?

[errant marsh]

I literally cant go to iron alluvium or sulfur pools because I will just fucking die

[haughty crag]

He was forced to go to Sulfur Pools with DLC3 enabled

[errant marsh]

Can they genuinely change sulfur pools enemy pool

[pearl summit]

Yeah fuck console players, let's make another dlc and ignore how broken the game is

[terse ferry]

"if they're invincible, then why can i see them?"
"you can't"
"oh"

[pearl summit]

Honestly just remove distributors

[torn ocean]

i saw 4 tc 280s in one stage is that rare

[pearl summit]

And then it's alright I think

[quartz spruce]

society

[errant marsh]

Invisible unkillable distributors is genuinely one of the worse bugs in gaming and I doubt im the only one who experiences it

[quartz spruce]

I wish they would atleast buff some weaker survivor abilities before abandoning old console

[errant marsh]

But I never hear anybody mention it

[golden linden]

the fact that distributors teleport around rustle my feathers

[pearl summit]

I never experienced that when I played on console but yeah that is just insane

[pearl summit]

I've had fire elite distributors teleport next to me and kill me before

[errant marsh]

Multi-player only bug at least

[pearl summit]

With the fire trail

[golden linden]

insane

[errant marsh]

It might be due to desync caused by my terrible internet connection

But still its so bullshit 😭

[pearl summit]

Even in mp I never saw that

[errant marsh]

I need to get a clip of them and bug report it probably

[odd cove]

r u a genuine chef player

[errant marsh]

Yes

[pearl summit]

There's no way the devs play the game bruh

[odd cove]

How do I unlock the mithrix challenge lol

do I need hella backup mags?

[errant marsh]

Command + drizzle

Or just attack speed

[vapid dagger]

Theres enough of a cooldown on distributor teleports that i dont see it as too big of a problem
Especially since they dont also get like a full 2 seconds of iframes

[odd cove]

Oh attack speed?

[errant marsh]

Im pretty sure it makes sear stack more burn

I've never used sear since getting ice box lol

[thin saddle]

Thank you gearbox

Good content but you bet it better have money on the line

[pearl summit]

Good content but also warped echo is never getting fixed and we ruin the game's balance

[errant marsh]

Warped echo is so ass 💔

[pearl summit]

Thank god for Risk of Resources for fixing it

We love our modders

[blissful torrent]

backup mag doesn't really help because burn duration doesn't reset when you apply a new stack, i got it first try with molotovs and a couple of small attack speed boosts

[molten hound]

just got an ignition tank on chef

what joy

[pure axle]

someone hop on drg for no particular reason

[errant marsh]

Set the world on fire

[molten hound]

i shall

[rigid grove]

we could just spin infinitely lol

[haughty crag]

Stone!

[errant marsh]

Rock and stoners

[haughty crag]

what is buddy doing

😇

[blazing delta]

isnt there an achievement for being in a mission for an hour

[haughty crag]

yea

[grand torrent]

so what has gearbox done in the past 6 months to fuck up the game

why am i getting sub 60 fps on stage fucking 1

[pure axle]

i have done nothing but play heavy extraction for 3 missions

i love this assignment

[grand torrent]

why do early access unoptimized games run worse than a nearly decade old full release game

[haughty crag]

buddy is still doing S6 assignment

[pure axle]

i just came back to drg ok

[grand torrent]

god this game is actually unplayable

[pure axle]

i took a pretty long break from the game because i genuinely didnt understand why i suddenly kept getting kicked from every server

[haughty crag]

btw

[pure axle]

i know its p2p, but my internet is perfectly fine, much better than before actually

[haughty crag]

do the reclaimers pickaxe assignment

cool pickaxe

[pure axle]

ive already done it yeah

i only have s6 pt2 left

[grand torrent]

p2p isnt great, but its genuinely gearbox

theyre actually incompetent

[pure axle]

its ghostship games not gearbox

drg

[grand torrent]

who employs them

[haughty crag]

peer2peer is piss easy to implement

and doesnt require that complex setup compared to server-client

[grand torrent]

im just saying, even at the awful launch of seekers of the storm, it never ran as bad as it does now

[pure axle]

anyway so suddenly for some reason i can only play drg when im the host because i get kicked soon after joining any other persons server

[grand torrent]

for literally no reason at all

[haughty crag]

what message does it show

if you have vpns / proxies like cloudflare warp, disable them

[pure axle]

no vpns

ive tried looking for every fix under the sun

tried disabling ipv4, nothing

actually clueless because it wasnt a problem a while ago but it is now, is what it is

[haughty crag]

what message does it show when you get booted out

hjscunk?

[pure axle]

just disconnected from server

lost connection to server

[haughty crag]

somethings wrong with yo net

try enabling a vpn

[golden linden]

are you on ethernet

[pure axle]

yeah

[golden linden]

no wifi

[pure axle]

i mean i did get a new router recently but my internet has gotten significantly better with it

[golden linden]

so you are on wifi

[pure axle]

ethernet

[grand torrent]

im just gonna download an older version of the game because that literally all i can think to do

[golden linden]

cable connected?

[haughty crag]

try getting some mods

see if they help

[thin saddle]

@placid quail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SPmWo99T04
I thought they released another new payday 2 weapon pack until I realized the graphics look too good

[pure axle]

how many times do i gotta answer yes to ethernet

[grand torrent]

mods might help, but my point is the game ran at 200fps stage 1 6 months ago, now its struggle to hit 60 5 minutes in

[golden linden]

I was being sure

[grand torrent]

they did something to the game, what it is i dont know

[haughty crag]

yeah ror2 has been filled with jank recently

[golden linden]

six months ago is a bunch of time for you to have installed some stuff on your side

you could check startup programs

[thin saddle]

yo let's play a game of drg

[haughty crag]

last time i played i got pretty frequent crashes

[thin saddle]

[pure axle]

sure steam is on my profile

[sonic tangle]

im playing seeker because i have a headache and i dont wanna focus

[thin saddle]

wait where you from

[grand torrent]

ive not installed any malware if thats what youre implying, ive legit reinstalled windows in february (and a debloated iso at that)

[pure axle]

eu

[haughty crag]

[sonic tangle]

i also accidentally had the nemesis ttype active

[thin saddle]

as a sotuheast asian I'm kinda forced on high ping servers whether I like it or not but

[thin saddle]

🤔

[sonic tangle]

i havent had an easier run in ages

[pure axle]

[golden linden]

well that could point for it to not come with some drivers on my experience

[grand torrent]

im on the latest drivers for everything

[thin saddle]

[haughty crag]

six...

[pure axle]

69

[golden linden]

it's a big os refresh on a non officially suported iso

[thin saddle]

6 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7

[pure axle]

kill yourself

im no longer inviting you to my drg party

[golden linden]

I'd feel it's a big enough change to entail more than I could know

[sturdy knot]

They are really pretty

[grand torrent]

ive reinstalled, verified files, deleted all the files then verified, updated all my drivers, restarted my pc, updated windows, tried modded, tried unmodded, put all settings on minimum,

[thin saddle]

I have happiest mask I'm afraid I'll just come back a ghost

[grand torrent]

its an official windows version?

[pure axle]

thats not how that works

[grand torrent]

its just got analytics shit removed

[thin saddle]

yes it is

[golden linden]

that makes it not official

[low wind]

heard we were rocking our stones

[golden linden]

microsoft wouldn't want that out

[thin saddle]

you don't know that, when's the last time you seen someone with happiest mask kill themselves

[thin saddle]

ok wait 4 player lobby let's actually do it @pure axle @haughty crag

[grand torrent]

its spyware lmao, of course they wouldnt want it out

all it does is report your files to microsoft

[golden linden]

I'm just discussing semantics

[low wind]

thats below my paygrade kid 🚬

[thin saddle]

paron host a game now!

[pure axle]

i would have to host because drg hates me i guess

[errant marsh]

Im an official Microsoft product

[thin saddle]

yeah host a game now fatty fat fat fat

[pure axle]

nobody has even sent me a friend req on steam

[thin saddle]

dibs on egie

engie

[thin saddle]

thought that wasn't neccesarry but sure

[pure axle]

i mean unless you find the server im in

[thin saddle]

guyss join paron's server

😢

[thin saddle]

dudeeee are you gonna join

[low wind]

posts my goon squad awesomely and leaves without elaborating

[pure axle]

sylveon hop on

[thin saddle]

very sci fi

[thin saddle]

I like to keep a very distinct theme

[haughty crag]

=w=

[unique hawk]

This isn't ror

[thin saddle]

wait are you the gunner

[haughty crag]

My gunner looks the the green giant

[thin saddle]

yo who tf is this 😭

[haughty crag]

Not me

[thin saddle]

SONN

[haughty crag]

I am not even on rn

<---- Me

[unique hawk]

Perhaps we can get back to ror

[golden linden]

suncles announcing a single new hc item next month

[sonic tangle]

reep ock ralactic

[echo idol]

nobdoy wan talk abt that bum game 💔💔💔🙏 🙏

[golden linden]

trust

[echo idol]

risk of jank unpolished game 2 😪😪🫩or deep rock galactic 👀👀

[unique hawk]

Doesn't matter, this is ror chat, not drg chat

[echo idol]

1 dola or 2 dola 👀

[unique hawk]

We have #other-games for drg

[echo idol]

you guys better get back on topic or else… ill have to get serious.

[golden linden]

would you rather ror1 dola or ror2 dola

[sonic tangle]

my head sitll hurts

[unique hawk]

What's dola

[sonic tangle]

i slammed myself directly into an overloading elder lemurian and died instantly

[echo idol]

rorr dola

[sonic tangle]

actually no i died like 5 seconds in

[haughty crag]

I hit the riskpot 1rainillion$

[echo idol]

Modded rorr dola

[golden linden]

modded ror2 dola...

[sonic tangle]

seeker actually sucks because she makes me overconfident and then die in a stupid way

so shes actually worse than everyone else

[echo idol]

Only if i can remove the modded items

[golden linden]

being overconfident is how you become unkillable as her tho

[sonic tangle]

it is

[haughty crag]

Btw I can play like in tomorrow or so

[errant marsh]

N'kuhanas hair dryer

All attacks inflict 1000% burn damage

[sonic tangle]

i basically constantly railed the nemesis t type any time he appeared

i just ended up flying directly into the overloading elder lemurian at the start of stage 4

[errant marsh]

Why are you railing fictional characters

[sonic tangle]

railing as in violently destroying

[echo idol]

really man i thought you meant the other one

🧠

[sonic tangle]

what do you think railgunner does

[errant marsh]

Rails gunners

[terse ferry]

shoot out train tracks, no?

[sonic tangle]

hi goobessa i died as seeker

[undone gorge]

Railguns

[haughty crag]

Noob

[golden linden]

the gun is the rail actually

[sonic tangle]

i was having a headache and was overconfident and thought i could tank 5 overloading elder lemurian fireballs

i actually tanked the first volley too

[haughty crag]

Overconfidence kills

[golden linden]

she shoots a train

[terse ferry]

to be fair you were playi
yeah exactly 😭

[sonic tangle]

yeah i was like

'dude i wanna go to bed'

i didnt intend to die but i think it was the best thing to happen

[undone gorge]

I might do a couple loop runs today just to get bands. If I don't get them I'll do it tomorrow too.

[unique hawk]

I always want to to go bed

[sonic tangle]

seeker loves hugging enemies in melee range with spinning spheres and i thought this time it would work

[terse ferry]

i never want to go to bed because sleeping is a waste of time

[golden linden]

to unlock them?

[sonic tangle]

because it worked against the fucking op hunk boss for 3 stages in a row

[undone gorge]

Yes

[sonic tangle]

nemesis t type is jank as hell

[terse ferry]

evil hunk boss that forces you into grab animations

[golden linden]

you can just go as engi

[sonic tangle]

good shit

[golden linden]

and put a sentry on the button

[sonic tangle]

but yeah seeker totally shat on him 3 times in a row just by being in melee range of him

i took 2k damage from him and i usually ended up with more hp than i started anyway

[golden linden]

you have the loader role, you can also just put a pylon on the button and swing to the next one

[sonic tangle]

soul spiral is fucked up

[sonic tangle]

luckily hunk can force him into a parry animation

[undone gorge]

Do engi's turrets work like captain's beacons or can you place as many as the cool downs will allow?

[golden linden]

only 2 can be up at a time

[sonic tangle]

latter

wait no neither

[golden linden]

you can have 3 max with lysate cell

[sonic tangle]

you can have max 2 but you can replace them as much as you want

beacons have a max limit because the skill becomes unusable