ror2-discussion

[thin saddle]

the early seasons of BCS were ok, not bad by any means but it's clear they were tryna test the waters first

[sonic tangle]

who are the strongest and weakest survivors with their worst loadouts

[tough basalt]

How do i make false son enjoyable to play i find him so dry

[halcyon creek]

hmmm do i do a command run where i only pick up steaks?

feels like thatll be fun

[thin saddle]

you cannot go wrong with FS

[iron palm]

p much the only thing that lunar spikes has over stakes is that you can infinitely stack lunar ruin without any outside help

[halcyon creek]

steaks and infusion

im gonna go do that lowkey

[iron palm]

which is still very important but like

it dont really matter

its fair to say theyre equally viable

[thin saddle]

BB's the perfect show honestly I cannot find a single flaw in it

[sonic tangle]

honestly you kind of dont

[terse ferry]

green rex is the worst probably

[sonic tangle]

if the problem is you find false son too strong then theres nothing you can do

use laser of the father i guess

[iron palm]

heretic

[thin saddle]

the change from a prequal to a sequel was a bit messy at first but I think they got it right

[sonic tangle]

this fucking guy

[iron palm]

Nevermore
Nevermore
Nevermore
Nevermore

[sonic tangle]

but yeah

[thin saddle]

Lalo's arc was phenomenal though, it makes sense why they didn't mention em in BB cause BCS is after but imagine if they did tho

yeah but it's like a throwaway

when I mean mention I mean really mention em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1m3CNE6AGQ
this is my favorite

it has so much aura!

de-aged saul goodman ❤️

de-aged Jesse's deefinitely the most distracting though 😭

holy fuck I remember that

😭

[vast tinsel]

yesterday's raindle was so easy

[languid crystal]

@hoary copper loader is cracked

[halcyon creek]

the ultimate false son run

[thin saddle]

the later seasons reminded me how awful saul's hair used to be

like that haircut somehow made him look fatter

[sonic tangle]

im sad i missed the tf2 rectified slander

or at least the latter half of it

[vernal heath]

Nothing

[terse ferry]

risk of rain rectified
tri-tip dagger no longer applies bleed and instead makes enemies take an immediate 300% damage

[vernal heath]

He's just so overpowered

[languid crystal]

is it time to be a false son hater

[vernal heath]

If you don't like power tripping, play someone weaker (anyone but Seeker)

[sonic tangle]

ok but actually in the context of tf2

[vernal heath]

Hello Jet Black Cowboy Bebop

[sonic tangle]

bleed instead of upfront damage is a good way to balance the weapon

[vernal heath]

What the fuck dude

[languid crystal]

ive played like 3 games of false son and sure i won but at what cost

[sonic tangle]

especially for the cleaver

cleaver is 50 +40 bleed and if it was flat 90 itd be a lot more polarizing to fight

[languid crystal]

false son with two bison steaks is stronger than the whole roster in late game

[halcyon creek]

ive never had a stage 1 this strong

[sonic tangle]

command i assume

[halcyon creek]

yeah

[languid crystal]

please rework blight

[sonic tangle]

[languid crystal]

and add viend alt skills

[sonic tangle]

just make blight refresh duration

[languid crystal]

alt primary n special

[languid crystal]

and duration buff

[sonic tangle]

maybe also make it lose only a few stacks instead of all at once

[halcyon creek]

has anyone even made a mod for that

[iron palm]

you know what i think would be a fun alternative to buffing blight instead of just making it bleed/hemorrhage v2?

[terse ferry]

there are like two i think

[languid crystal]

yeah but its niche

[terse ferry]

and one of them is really janky

[languid crystal]

theres one in eggs skills

[iron palm]

either
1: give it a proc coefficient
2: give it aoe

[halcyon creek]

amazing stage 1

[languid crystal]

which ones? i know eggskills only

[sonic tangle]

i still like the idea of blight being bleed adjacent because it forces you to reapply it actively

[languid crystal]

yes

[sonic tangle]

aggro acrid

[iron palm]

i wouldnt mind it if bandit didnt already have this

[languid crystal]

i run 1121 loader so i am cool

[sonic tangle]

hemorrhage is eh and i think it should do its own thing

[languid crystal]

rather have blight b like bleed than be blight

[terse ferry]

hemorrhage is more of a secondary tool for him tbf

[halcyon creek]

i wish blight would be better to run its so mid compared to poison

[terse ferry]

poison/blight meanwhile is a part of acrid's main damage loop

[sonic tangle]

also aoe is eh since acrid has like the strongest aoe option in the game in epidemic

[iron palm]

still i think it just being a bleed reskin would be boring

[languid crystal]

make it rorr blight

aka corrosive wounds

[iron palm]

i think itd be fun to double down on it

[sonic tangle]

if acrid had an alt special that wasnt aoe focused then maybe an aoe blight would have purpose

[sonic tangle]

i mean i guess

[iron palm]

true

melee acrid special when

[sonic tangle]

yes please

[terse ferry]

bleed reskin is the safest option for blight because it's so so basic in basegame that you can really take it any direction
like there's a reason there are 500 different blight rework mods and so few rework mods for other bad skills

[iron palm]

another thing that could be interesting maybe is if blighted enemies exploded on death but then again that would just be bleed with shatterspleen

[languid crystal]

yes exactly

i dont want this shitty ass blight acrid rn

[sonic tangle]

thatd be neat still

[terse ferry]

heck i dont think there's a SINGLE mod that buffs green rex 😭

[sonic tangle]

also side tangent

[iron palm]

drill is fine imo

[languid crystal]

mithrix took me like 12 mins, and i felt like i had to hit and run a lot as BLIGHT.

[languid crystal]

thats right.

[sonic tangle]

should dagger and shiv inflict different effects to differentiate them further

[terse ferry]

drill is usable but depressingly worse than seed barrage

[vital escarp]

no

[sonic tangle]

or should they have other differentiating factors

[languid crystal]

is that util or secondary

[iron palm]

disperse and harvest need adjusting though

[iron palm]

secondary

[sonic tangle]

disperse is fine

[languid crystal]

drill is fine then yeah

[potent marten]

Bored

[iron palm]

i actually get more mileage with drill because it scales better

[terse ferry]

disperse vs volley is really weird tbh

[vital escarp]

me too

[languid crystal]

disperse is eh since the alt heals SO much if ur good like me

[livid idol]

rex has one bad skill- it's the worst in the game sure but it's only one bad skill

[vital escarp]

but its fun

[halcyon creek]

average false son run

[sonic tangle]

yeah but i can freely use disperse in mobility without enemies around me

[vital escarp]

apples is genuinely fun

like so fun it's name is silly

[livid idol]

I'm glad someone enjoys it

[vital escarp]

wdym apples

[livid idol]

I enjoy tangling growth way more

[vast tinsel]

me when i heal

[sonic tangle]

i love tangling growth

[vital escarp]

although yeah that

[potent marten]

I need to sleep I have an ap test tomorrow

Gn

[languid crystal]

bruh no one likes harvest

at least power saw mul t is funny

[vital escarp]

tangling is one of his best skills

[livid idol]

tangling growth ties into the character more in multiple ways

[languid crystal]

harvest is js stupid as shit

[halcyon creek]

i had to grab wungus i didnt want the void cradle to go to waste

[sonic tangle]

i think tangling growth is easily the best rex skill

[terse ferry]

harvest's biggest issue aside from it replacing tangling fucking growth is the fact that it's an on-kill effect tied to a survivor skill with no other benefit

[vast tinsel]

fair

[sonic tangle]

in context and especially in a vacuum

[vital escarp]

probably

[sonic tangle]

also its long endlag and its method of healing being poor for rex

[languid crystal]

literally monsterteeth

[vast tinsel]

i think rex is bad because i cant be bothered to get him

[vital escarp]

but with an afterburger you get shotgurex

[livid idol]

well tangling growth also holds enemies in place for both secondaries and both utilities, and is steady healing which is good since you're chunking yourself

[languid crystal]

maybe a rework can allow it to give extra attack speed and cooldown reduction or sum idk

[vast tinsel]

quoted by every rex hater btw

[sonic tangle]

tangling growth is close to a pocket primordial cube

[vital escarp]

its acceleration is so stupid now that i think about it

[sonic tangle]

plus a bit of damage and healing

[void vale]

Skroncle

[languid crystal]

i like rex he makes top 10 based on enjoyability

[terse ferry]

it's kind of a pocket singularity band tbh

[vital escarp]

true

[void vale]

Rex is my goat

[sonic tangle]

yeah thats more accurate

and that shit is strong

[vital escarp]

except one doesnt corrupt fraudros and the ice one i forgot the name

fraudnald or something

[sonic tangle]

people hype up freezing bosses when rex can stall them too

[void vale]

I like to spam directive drill with spare magazines

[vital escarp]

ngl rex is hated cuz of his ambiguous way of having mobility

[void vale]

Everything just gets inflicted with a million of whatever debuffs I stacked up

[livid idol]

this gif is funny to me

[sonic tangle]

thats one of the reasons

[vital escarp]

this is true actually

[terse ferry]

if you're playing rex and ever need a break to drink your water or take a bite out of your food during a bossfight just press r

[halcyon creek]

this will beat mithrix

[void vale]

This is true

[vital escarp]

dont say eclipse cuz im skinning u alive

[potent marten]

I can’t sleep I’m staying up

[void vale]

Mitrhix is a bum,he doesn't stand a chance against bison steak

[vital escarp]

same bro same...

[sonic tangle]

anorher reason is placebo because he has such a large model he looks really slow

[livid idol]

well it is a reason why people think he's bad even if that reason is stupid and dumb because the game isn't balanced around eclipse

[sonic tangle]

rex feels a lot slower than everyone else despite moving at the eame speed

[vast tinsel]

eva 02 merc mod

[vital escarp]

ok but thats an acrid and mult thing too

[sonic tangle]

acrid has big leaps and mult can at least become a car for a bit

it isnt as obvious for rex

[vital escarp]

but it's slippery

[sonic tangle]

so people get a bad impression

[void vale]

Acrid just had a slow run animation,they aren't slow at all 😭🙏

[sonic tangle]

i fucking hate transport mode but thats besides the point

[void vale]

One of the better movements in the entire game

[potent marten]

Ramiel xi construct mod

[halcyon creek]

i WILL have to rely on my shift to move now

[vast tinsel]

true

[vital escarp]

grrrrrr youre defending eclipse players??? how could you, youre just like them, arghhh

[potent marten]

Transport is fine there’s 0 reason to hate

[sonic tangle]

acrid is incredibly good mobility that kind of scales better than almost everyone

[livid idol]

thats not what i said smh

[void vale]

Just invest in 100 wax quails

[vital escarp]

i'll show you a monster

[terse ferry]

what if rex default util did 7 damage

[vital escarp]

death

[sonic tangle]

900 proc coefficient

[livid idol]

7.3, take it or leave it

[sacred elk]

Everyone is the same speed except heretic who moves slightly faster

[terse ferry]

sillypack survivor

[pastel shuttle]

jid feature single omg 🤤

[sacred elk]

The most broken ability in the game

[vital escarp]

why is that a thing tho

[sonic tangle]

heretic

[sacred elk]

Because heretic is a late game transformation so she has the best stats

[vital escarp]

meh

[sonic tangle]

quirked up bird

[vital escarp]

too much stat for mid abilities

[sacred elk]

Highest damage per level highest health regen per level

[vital escarp]

don't get me wrong, ruin is pretty broken

[sacred elk]

Best speed

[languid crystal]

heretics abilities are SO boring

[vital escarp]

but mehhh

[languid crystal]

like oh my god shes boring

[vital escarp]

TRUE

[pastel shuttle]

even just the kenny mason verse is good, this jid boutta SLAP

[sacred elk]

Heretic is the only character I don’t really like

[vital escarp]

i LOVE cop enchant

[potent marten]

Bro is it even good

[sacred elk]

It just doesn’t feel super responsive

[vital escarp]

sweet lightning after landing a crit gegrgegegr

[pastel shuttle]

I think if the utility was diff it would be WAY better

[sacred elk]

Charged creeper gaming

[vital escarp]

its so good for every class except summon

[pastel shuttle]

jid is HITTING holy SHIT

[potent marten]

It’s just the Chris Christodoulou reference

[sacred elk]

Cop encat

[halcyon creek]

picked up kjaros by accident run ruined

[vital escarp]

its cheap, powerful enough to carry till wof and even after wof its still solid

[potent marten]

I’m not playing summoner

[pastel shuttle]

bangerrr song added to my playlist, when is ts coming to ror2

[terse ferry]

all that text for m1 simulator 2

[potent marten]

Me no like mage so it’s between melee and ranged

[vital escarp]

whats the soul or artifact that is made with cop enchant

[vital escarp]

copper enchant with range is literally a free win for every prehm boss

[potent marten]

Force of terra

[terse ferry]

wtf does copper enchant do i havent played fargo's in forever

[vital escarp]

grrr post cultist things

[terse ferry]

i also don't play ranger

[sacred elk]

I’m surfing random repo lobbies and there’s one called “9+”

[sonic tangle]

hi guys im back

[sacred elk]

Zlawg

[potent marten]

Smth about lightning on crit

And it has a ror2 reference in the description

[vital escarp]

uhhh i think +5% to crit chance, and after landing a crit you summon a lightning that deals sometimes 300, and if the enemy is inflicted with wet, the damage scales up by a lot (600~700)

[terse ferry]

im gonna be real i never paid attention to crit chance in terraria

[sacred elk]

I swear to god everyone that plays these games is either a stoner or a child

[vital escarp]

oh and also it pierces

[terse ferry]

which is why my name is menacing fairy wings and not lucky fairy wings

[vital escarp]

oh and the cooldown is like 25 secs or something

pretty cool ngl

[potent marten]

Lame it should be no cd

[vital escarp]

true actually

[sacred elk]

I should be able to turn into Zeus with a copper shortsword

[vital escarp]

doesnt the recipe need a copper shortsword

or am i tripping

[potent marten]

It does

[sacred elk]

I dunno

[vital escarp]

i remember it uses full copper armor

[sacred elk]

Never played it

[vital escarp]

sweet!!

[livid idol]

For reforges its about equal iirc

Menacing and lucky are both good

I personally invest in warding tho

[vital escarp]

lucky is way better tho

[languid crystal]

i just want harvest on rex to be reworked

[vital escarp]

why would you want raw dps when you can just land a crit

[languid crystal]

anything else is a bonus but harvest reeks

[potent marten]

Me no likey mage

[sacred elk]

Do you want to deal damage

Or deal more damage

[potent marten]

I’m gonna go catatonic

[terse ferry]

i play summoner so i think we all know my opinion on defense 😭

[vital escarp]

mage is mid on every stage of the game

except when youre playing fargos

[sacred elk]

I like summoner

[terse ferry]

i still hate that they killed whipstacking in the last update

[sacred elk]

I like having dudes do the work for me

[languid crystal]

i like mage

[vital escarp]

god damn it fargos makes mage broken after evil boss

[halcyon creek]

we're rich

[potent marten]

Summoner is insane in calamity for no reason

[terse ferry]

like yeah it was busted but why the fuck do snapthorn or dark harvest even have the attack speed buff anymore if you're gonna kill it completely 😭

[potent marten]

Might actually play mage then

[vital escarp]

well

[terse ferry]

just like halve stacked summon tag damage or something and whipstacking would be fine

[potent marten]

Nevermind!

[vital escarp]

its not like fargos adds that many mage weapons

[sonic tangle]

hey guys what do you think of regenerating scrap

[vital escarp]

mid

[terse ferry]

neat

[languid crystal]

summoner is so op in calamity

scales great compared to my mage

[vital escarp]

i only find it when i don't get good printers

[sacred elk]

The scrap that regenerates

[sonic tangle]

i think its a bit weak honestly

[potent marten]

Summoner needs a serious nerf in calamity

[sacred elk]

Very true

[languid crystal]

mage needs a buff

[terse ferry]

because it's a green item specifically it's a pretty good item because instead of getting a super scrappable item you just get scrap straight up

[sacred elk]

It’s basically immortality on drifter

[sonic tangle]

like its not too weak but its also kinda just

[vital escarp]

didnt it get a buff in the new update

[potent marten]

U get like 10 trillion dps and melee level survivability after dog

[sacred elk]

Why did they make green scrap so good

[vital escarp]

yardis new vid shows it

[sacred elk]

It’s so easy to get and it makes her immortal after like 3

[terse ferry]

their logic was probably like
cautious slug is white and conditional so green scrap should be unconditional

then they made tinker

and they also forgot the green pool sucks actual ass

[potent marten]

Mage being good?!?!?!

[sacred elk]

I love tacking on mechanics for the sake of having more mechanics

[vital escarp]

yuppp

[languid crystal]

im greedy i want more

[sonic tangle]

[vital escarp]

id recommend watching yardis, he's a sweat but actually gives advice to novices

[terse ferry]

yard is what

[vital escarp]

a sweat

anyway

[sonic tangle]

i still stand by my opinion on growth btw

false son doesnt need growth to be false son

[sacred elk]

I get that hoarding literal garbage is in character but she doesn’t have any way of getting scrap reliably in her base kit and it’s super busted

[sacred elk]

Exactly bro

[halcyon creek]

insert tom tucker walking meme

[sacred elk]

There’s so much moveset bloat

[sonic tangle]

honestly just make temp items count for the passive

[vital escarp]

hot take??

[terse ferry]

i think it'd be neat if temp items counted as scrap for the sake of her passive but also that should come after the green scrap nerf

[potent marten]

Sleep time?

[sonic tangle]

and that yeay

[vital escarp]

nah

analog horror night

[sacred elk]

Woooo

[terse ferry]

that way salvage actually gives her a way to use her passive and you're encouraged to take temp item distribs even if they're
y'know
trash

[sacred elk]

We should watch the binding of Isaac analogue horror that always ends in itemless dogma

[potent marten]

I have an ap test tomorrow

And I won’t have a good excuse

[livid idol]

white scrap also should be nerfed, what do you mean every white item is half of a goat hoof

[potent marten]

“Oh yeah I stayed up in risk of rain 2 discord server”

[sonic tangle]

eeh

[terse ferry]

white scrap i think is more balanced than green purely because the white pool is more consistently good tbh

[livid idol]

she just gets all of the movespeed she could ever want so easily idk

[sonic tangle]

i dont mind current white scrap since drifter can always just

roll for a hoof printer

and get a direct upgrade

[vital escarp]

dogma is just a filler anyway tho

[terse ferry]

but i definitely think it's still too high for guaranteed movespeed

[sonic tangle]

buff red scrap

[vital escarp]

buff gray scrap

[terse ferry]

red scrap is fine but only because red balancing sucks

[sonic tangle]

buff boss scrap

[vital escarp]

boooo

[terse ferry]

ditto for yellows

[livid idol]

buff lunar scrap

[vital escarp]

who actually uses yellow scrap tho

[sonic tangle]

not really any argument against buffing them

[potent marten]

Buff void scrap

[digital timber]

I use command artifact just to be play it safe

[vital escarp]

but you cant deny the beast is the real deal tho

[sonic tangle]

when i get

[vital escarp]

dogma has ehhh cool attack patterns ig

but thats really it

[terse ferry]

i dont think halc seed can be tinkered can it

[sonic tangle]

if not then ignore it

also honestly

[cedar coral]

chat do I keep corpsebloom on chef or do I cleanse

[sonic tangle]

faulty conductor also gets tinkered

[potent marten]

Cleanse

[cedar coral]

oh speak of the devil

[digital timber]

The Goat

[vital escarp]

i mean boss items are kind of rare anyway, so it's better to have their effects rather than have no effects yk

[potent marten]

Cleanse cleanse

[cedar coral]

bet

[sonic tangle]

on drifter? that cdr is better

[sacred elk]

Fun facteds

The dogma item is a real item you can get with spin down dice

[sonic tangle]

its not a lot but jts better

[vital escarp]

and its the only one with movement!!!

[sonic tangle]

oh wait you dont have alloyed collective

[vital escarp]

who

[sonic tangle]

nobody

[vital escarp]

what

[potent marten]

Huh

[sacred elk]

You spin down purgatory

[digital timber]

For some reason tier 3 void items are way worse than tier 1 Void Items

[sacred elk]

Do you think that was intentional by Edmund

[sonic tangle]

pluripotent larva is solid

[vital escarp]

nah

[potent marten]

Woah woah woah benthic bloom is actually fun

[vital escarp]

prolly just coincidence

[digital timber]

It fucked up my build once and I decided "never again"

[vital escarp]

like how blood bag is next to brim

or toothpicks to s heart

or maybe edmund was planning the entire game all along and he thought of every id so spindown dice wasnt quirky

[potent marten]

Edmund like Edmund Rockwell

[vital escarp]

rockwell sounds like the typa name captain would have

[halcyon creek]

[potent marten]

Nice!

[sacred elk]

What does growth even do for commando

[terse ferry]

nothing

[sacred elk]

Incredible

This is the buff commando needs

[sonic tangle]

benthic bloom fits better as a void version of sonorous whispers

[potent marten]

Then fs gets commandos suppressive fire

[sonic tangle]

not being allowed to use clovers sucks

[cedar coral]

what 😭

[sacred elk]

Well so sonorous didn’t exist

[terse ferry]

fs gets stun on his special

[sonic tangle]

shush

[potent marten]

Lunar grenades

[terse ferry]

oh that might make lotf like okay actually

still bad but it'd have A use

[sonic tangle]

also benthic bloom cant be a lunar because it wouldnt be able to snowball and make more of itself

[halcyon creek]

okay so dont jump and use r with alt r

[sacred elk]

The unstoppable beam of crossmap stunning and vaporization

[halcyon creek]

sent STRAIGHT out of the map

[sonic tangle]

yeah laser burst does that

[terse ferry]

laser burt

[sacred elk]

Laser earnie

[halcyon creek]

movement tech trust

[sonic tangle]

using laser burst for movement later on is actually a good strategy btw

using multiple in a row sends you fucking flying

[terse ferry]

it's like rex util if it also obliterated things

[potent marten]

Yall should watch milky subway

[terse ferry]

freaky subway

freaky sub gay

[sonic tangle]

who do you main in tf2

[terse ferry]

pyro spy medic

[sacred elk]

Engineer

[sacred elk]

God why did you bring out tf2 now I’m thinking about that mod again

[halcyon creek]

this will be my pillar skip

[sonic tangle]

pick a struggle ahh

[terse ferry]

did they touch the dragon's fury at all

[sacred elk]

Yeah

[terse ferry]

oh god

[sonic tangle]

yeah the weakest flamethrower vs spies

[sacred elk]

The projectile is now stupidly confusing and the damage is calculated based on how close you are to the epicenter

[sonic tangle]

what will the spy mains say

[sacred elk]

Plus it has regular air last

[sonic tangle]

ok bro

[sacred elk]

Blast

[sonic tangle]

lmao

im a degreaser guy what did they do to it

[sacred elk]

Hold on

Something about the damage I think

[cedar coral]

praying i find an overgrown printer

[halcyon creek]

how many R uses do i even have

[cedar coral]

im clutching my pearls in my hand

[halcyon creek]

oh 11

[digital timber]

Pyro, Spy, Engineer

[sacred elk]

Removed extra airblast cost
Added -20% damage
Removed afterburn penalty

[sonic tangle]

fuck off

[cedar coral]

❓️

[sonic tangle]

i mean ok

jt makes sense for a more combo oriented flamethrower to do less upfront damage

and i appreciate 4 damage afterburn again

but 20% is uhh

[sacred elk]

Flare guns now deal like double the base damage

[sonic tangle]

ok what

huh

[terse ferry]

"hey what if we made it so degreaser + flare is literally always the best option with degreaser"

[sonic tangle]

does it still crit for the same damage mult

[halcyon creek]

the devil

[sacred elk]

The detonater also deals no self damage and doesn’t ignite in the blast radius

[sonic tangle]

this one is a bit more understandable since detonator spam is annoying but like

now its like the winger

[terse ferry]

fucking winger

[sonic tangle]

you use it for jumping and its damage is mid

[sage python]

i love the reserve shooter

[terse ferry]

what did they do to the scorch shot

[sacred elk]

They removed it

[terse ferry]

reasonable
boring though

[sacred elk]

Reserve shooter also got removed

[sage python]

god

[terse ferry]

fox feels hatred in his heart

[sacred elk]

How’d you end up liking Voidling bound

[sage python]

um i fell asleep (not because boring but bcus tired)

[terse ferry]

the sleeper

[sacred elk]

The eeper

[sage python]

im not angry im just disappointed

[terse ferry]

fox feels parent in his heart

[haughty crag]

Stares at

[cedar coral]

what builds do you guys like with chef

[terse ferry]

loadouts or builds

[sacred elk]

Ice puddle jump

[cedar coral]

also has anyone ever actually found a red printer in their life

just a random thought

[terse ferry]

i've seen like three red printers i think

[sage python]

yesterday i was so tired i kept mixing up which hands i was using for stuff

[terse ferry]

1150 hours btw

[sacred elk]

Only when I don’t have reds on stage 5

[cedar coral]

ive never seen a single one ever

[sacred elk]

It’s always fuckin happiest mask too

[cedar coral]

😭

[terse ferry]

i've seen three red printers one red multishop and five non-guaranteed leg chests in my 1000 hours i think

[cedar coral]

top 1 biggest glowdowns from ror1

[cedar coral]

wdym non guaranteed

[terse ferry]

stage 4 always has a legendary chest somewhere

[sacred elk]

Ror1 had no printers

[terse ferry]

or in siren's call's case a boss that drops a red

[cedar coral]

i meant happiest mask

[sacred elk]

Ah

Yeah

[terse ferry]

but leg chests can spawn randomly starting from stage 4

[sonic tangle]

im back again

[sacred elk]

Hopoo made vyper and sinclair

[terse ferry]

hello back again

i'm goobessa

[sonic tangle]

tf2 amirite

[sacred elk]

So peak

[livid idol]

leg chests? you're telling me chests full of legs can appear?

[terse ferry]

yeah just look at goat hoof

[sage python]

dead man's foot

[cedar coral]

really?

[terse ferry]

i keep forgetting i have an evanescia pfp now

[cedar coral]

I didnt know that

[sonic tangle]

what tf2 servers do yall play on

like what region

[terse ferry]

very good question

idk i just played casual and the lowest ping tf2x10 servers

[livid idol]

I don't

[sonic tangle]

you wouldnt believe this but i play in singpaore servers

[livid idol]

marvel rivals and overwatch are my poisons of choice

[terse ferry]

inane information

[cedar coral]

highest possible cortisol

[sonic tangle]

just wondering if we could tf2

[terse ferry]

i used to play paladins and overwatch

ow1 specifically

[sacred elk]

I briefly played overwatch when sigma came out

[terse ferry]

half my time on ow was just messing with the workshop thing instead of actually playing the game

[sacred elk]

Then I tried playing it again when Jetpack cat came out and it was something

[terse ferry]

hey actually @livid idol does ow2 have the custom game workshop yet

[sonic tangle]

i play 2 games and neither are overwatch

[cedar coral]

I play like 5 games

[pure axle]

take the tf2 pill

[terse ferry]

probably could, i live in the ph which is southeast asia

i'd have to make pc space tho

[sonic tangle]

tf2 isnt a very big game if you ignore all the cosmetic and unusual effect slop

[sage python]

idk probably frankfurt or smthn

[terse ferry]

yeah but i have 8gb of free space and horrible hoarding issues

[sage python]

i havent checked, where are the locations

[pure axle]

man i havent played tf2 in ages

[sacred elk]

I’d suck ass but I’d be down once I reinstall it

[livid idol]

no

[pure axle]

i always have tf2 installed i just never play it anymore

[livid idol]

i dunno I've been dragged into role queue every time by friends

that and stadium oh god stadium

[pure axle]

some people just dont want to be saved i guess

[sacred elk]

Brodun we are a cult and we will forcefully indoctrinate you into tf2

[terse ferry]

what the fuck is stadium

[terse ferry]

team for trees two

[clever seal]

uhhh dont

[sacred elk]

A new third person mode

[sonic tangle]

i play tf2 constantly to an unhealthy degree

[sacred elk]

It’s overwatches version of deadlock

[clever seal]

hot take: 2fort is fucking shit for every purpose

[terse ferry]

i play rabbit and steel constantly to an unhealthy degree

[sonic tangle]

because i was exposed to tf2 long before i could ever play it

[sacred elk]

That’s why it’s peak

[sonic tangle]

and i would literally have dreams of myself playing tf2

because i wanted to play it so bad

[pure axle]

2fort is good for gimmick shenanigans actually

[terse ferry]

2fort is good for bullshit

[sonic tangle]

when i got my computer and played it it lived up to my expectations

2fort is good for chilling after a day

[clever seal]

turbine, hightower, fucking hell atp just highertower already

[pure axle]

ok highertower just fucking sucks, who even likes highertower

[terse ferry]

nah because like people actually do the objective on turbine they just suck really bad at it

[sacred elk]

Bighbower

[pure axle]

oh wow its hightower but the tower is abyssmally tall

surely this wont affect how many people you run into

[sonic tangle]

thats funny though

[sage python]

i had a really fun hightower game as a brass beast dalokahs fos heavy where two engineers with eureka effect kept !rtd-ing and jumping off the top as i was coming up

[sonic tangle]

anyway whats your favorite weapon in the fortress 2

[clever seal]

honestly i'd take highertower than cp_orange rn

[sacred elk]

The one that kills people

[clever seal]

the funny ding

[terse ferry]

dragon's fury and big earner were my goats

[sonic tangle]

thats a lot of them

[sage python]

it was highertower extended, took an evening

[sonic tangle]

highesttower

[clever seal]

what the fuck is a highertower extended

[terse ferry]

take a guess

[sonic tangle]

time to 2fort

im gonna send funny screenshots here

[clever seal]

and i thought 2foooooooooooooort is the lowest of humanity

[terse ferry]

long 2fort is certainly a map

[livid idol]

so basically it's overwatch on crack

[clever seal]

oh yea steam fucked up tf2 controller support
what a shame

[livid idol]

like uh playing ashe and throwing out dynamite that explodes into three more dynamite

[sonic tangle]

have yall ever been the recepient of a giftapult

[clever seal]

so wrong but so accurate at the same time

[sonic tangle]

i got a strange scout cosmetic from it

[clever seal]

a lot less often than you think

[round sandal]

It’s almost sleepy time

[livid idol]

hello the meower! you should sleep

[clever seal]

holy crap the meower is here

[sacred elk]

The eepler

[round sandal]

Soon, just sayinf goodnights to the besties

[round sandal]

Hiiiiiii, do I know you? I’m very bad with names

[terse ferry]

the hissler:

[livid idol]

it's a third person mode (which you can make first person thank god) where you buy upgrades to abilities and your stats- I had a wuyang build where I could make the water balls go a 90 degree angle with camera shenanigans

[pure axle]

thats an indian scammer he stole from my grandma

[sacred elk]

The croakler

[round sandal]

Wait malachite?

[clever seal]

third person mode (optional)

[livid idol]

they could not counter the literal behind the wall aiming

[pure axle]

but ow is already crack

[clever seal]

roguelike ow

[livid idol]

I said what I said

[round sandal]

Waits

[clever seal]

there, happy?

[sonic tangle]

my 2fort server is full of femboys i think

[clever seal]

it is literally roguelike ow and somehow that slop is the best part of modern ow

[sonic tangle]

a lot of colon threes

[pure axle]

is that a good or bad thing

[round sandal]

It’s NOT malachite

[sage python]

same

[round sandal]

Wonder what happened to them

[clever seal]

it really is not a good thing.

[sage python]

its bad eline

chat, the meower is here !!!!!

[sacred elk]

Top ten least surprising things of all time

[clever seal]

touche i stole your line

[round sandal]

Does the meower know them, go through the files fox

[livid idol]

no its madeline "celestine" wesker

[round sandal]

Yeah she is

[pure axle]

honestly that could be like 3 different communities, not just femboys, that barely narrows it down

[sage python]

idk theyve been around for a while though

[clever seal]

atp i mighta just call him the lil fuck again

[sonic tangle]

furries

[round sandal]

OHHHHHHHHHHH

[round sandal]

you should have just said that silly

[sonic tangle]

oh blu team got a disconnect purge

[round sandal]

Hugs you 🩶

[clever seal]

but sai 🗞️ me now

[round sandal]

Fox.

[sage python]

itd appear so

[terse ferry]

eviline

[clever seal]

heh

[round sandal]

Wait this is awesome work from you fox

[livid idol]

what makes you so bad(eline)

[round sandal]

@terse ferry give fox a raise

[sage python]

uppies!

[round sandal]

They call me lil fuck a lot

[clever seal]

this joke so bad please go zero osp diablo yourself

[livid idol]

<3

[round sandal]

Which made me sad at first

Cause I thought they didn’t like me

[pure axle]

just say kill, youtube moderation aint around

[clever seal]

nah i'd take precautions

[livid sedge]

Hello chat

[clever seal]

[round sandal]

Hi I’m chat!

[pure axle]

no

[livid sedge]

Scared of the word kill?

[round sandal]

Hugs

[terse ferry]

why are we getting so many risk of rain returnees

not that i'm complaining

[pure axle]

are we

[sage python]

like to the server or rorr

[round sandal]

I come here when I get bored

[clever seal]

idk i just woke up after a 6 hr amphoreus content binge 😭

[sonic tangle]

ok i shoul;d play actual tf2

[terse ferry]

at this very moment

[round sandal]

Once pink actually comes back, you’ll see me VERY active

[sonic tangle]

what are yalls average tf2 kd

[terse ferry]

funnily enough i pulled castorice last night

[clever seal]

lemme install budhud rq

[pure axle]

hop on doom deathmatch

[mild cloak]

Because Hallowed Concepts drops today

[round sandal]

I miss pinky so much

@versed spade COME BACK

[terse ferry]

pink was such a nice rorgular to have around

[pure axle]

im pretty sure its like always 1:1 but somehow always top score

truly an anomaly

[livid idol]

i was not talking because I was busy playing marvel rivals blood hunt

[round sandal]

Very fun to play with too

[livid idol]

I sure did beat nightmare 160 though

[round sandal]

I played sooooo much webfishing with her

[clever seal]

hmmm should i build for cyrene/anaxa or cyrene/castorice
gonna wait for hyacine and then i'll throw tb in till for some reason they rerun sw999

[round sandal]

I miss playing webfishing with everyone

[sage python]

pink still updates their mods

i hope they are well, last i checked they were just incredibly busy

[terse ferry]

honestly i'm not even familiar with cyrene's kit her banner was when i was low on hsr motivation

[livid idol]

everything goobessa has sent on hyacine has made me think she's a lil busted

[round sandal]

Yesssss

[terse ferry]

which is really funny to think about considering my current and past pfp are clear signs i really like pink haired girls

[livid idol]

the numbers output even though i dont know the game I know what big number looks like

[sonic tangle]

goob you should play arknights

[clever seal]

all, and i fucking mean all of my owned chrysos heirs are at e0s1 lmao

[terse ferry]

probably!

[mild cloak]

Castorice REALLY wants hyacine and anaxa REALLY wants cerydra

[clever seal]

hell

[round sandal]

I like men!

[terse ferry]

i'll make some space on my pc

[clever seal]

arknights is actual fuckin hell

[round sandal]

Who’s with me !!!!!!

[sonic tangle]

its fun

[livid idol]

I have arknights, have still not played it

[livid sedge]

I like how when i become an adult the world decides its time to be trash

[sage python]

[mild cloak]

Arknights is fun

[livid idol]

I don't like men but I support you!

[mild cloak]

It's as difficult as you want it to be

[livid sedge]

If i was adult like 10-15 years earlier i wouldve been good 😡

[round sandal]

Yeah I know what you are Brodun.

[livid idol]

huh 😨

[sonic tangle]

goobessa do you like men

[terse ferry]

yeah hyacine allows you to pretty much never care about the hp drain on cas's skill
shit i was playing div universe earlier and was able to have triple action advance on castorice just fine because of her 😭

[clever seal]

damn i shoulda pulled cerydra first
gives tb some space (i dont wanna run tb - dan heng pt as supports, cas is literally only doing 12k on ult rn)

[mild cloak]

12... thousand?

[terse ferry]

short answer no

[clever seal]

yes.

[round sandal]

Really straightforward, made me giggle😭 😭

[mild cloak]

huh???

[clever seal]

3 target mind you

[sonic tangle]

i was asking because arknights has pretty boys and muscular men

[round sandal]

Can I get the long answer

[clever seal]

its literally raw

[mild cloak]

What the fuck

[livid idol]

is the long answer nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[mild cloak]

what are your CRIT stats

[terse ferry]

pretty much

[steady vector]

Hello

[terse ferry]

probably not in this server!

[round sandal]

Get in line pal, I asked firsy.

[clever seal]

ITS FUCKING RAW

[livid idol]

i was typing before you asked idk

[round sandal]

Gets scared

[mild cloak]

are you using the right relic sets ??

[round sandal]

“I thought about it first!”

[terse ferry]

also it's nice having pulled cas because it means i finally don't have to build speed on a dps

[clever seal]

I spent my relic recon on cyrene ok i havent even started farming relics for cas

[mild cloak]

Oh my god

[clever seal]

hell cyrene is the only one i had a "proper" and "bearable" kit

[mild cloak]

You're gonna have to pull tribbie I fear

[clever seal]

fuck.

[round sandal]

What should I dm brodun

[round sandal]

No cussing

[livid idol]

I think this makes sense, regardless on if the contents is like something okay to talk about here, talking about personal details in a very public server is in fact an odd choice

[clever seal]

fuck i dont have enough to pull 2

[mild cloak]

tribbie is way too good

[clever seal]

i still havent figured out how to tribbie

[mild cloak]

you just have to use her skill when you have to

and use her ult too

[clever seal]

very funny

[mild cloak]

the zones she places are so strong

[terse ferry]

instava what are your thoughts on ruan mei as a tribbie stand-in because i have like zero cas supports that aren't hyacine or memblazer

[mild cloak]

Ruan mei as.. tribbie?

[terse ferry]

shrug

[clever seal]

nahh

Thats diabolical, even for my standard

[mild cloak]

it's like comparing painkillers to the cure to cancer

[sacred elk]

Zoner like danger from the upcoming hit video game marvel tokon

[terse ferry]

my only other choices are like
robin who gets atk boost wasted
bronya???

[mild cloak]

night and day difference 💔

Goobessa

[terse ferry]

what

[mild cloak]

Did you use your spirits on robin

[clever seal]

oh yea instava wanna know my "struggle build" im currently using?

[terse ferry]

possibly

[mild cloak]

I'm so fucking scared

[clever seal]

i knew you'd say that

[round sandal]

Actual nonsense I’m reading

I feel like a caveman trying to understand what’s happening

[clever seal]

so
dan heng pt
ruan mei
sparkle
anaxa

[sage python]

the gc release window is within 7 months im so excited

[mild cloak]

sp...

[round sandal]

Like what the fuck is this😭 😭

[mild cloak]

SPARKLE?????

what do you MEAN sparkle?

you could've used ARCHER 💔

[sacred elk]

I don’t understand a single word being said

[mild cloak]

This team is a warcrime

[round sandal]

@sage python I’m scared

[clever seal]

problem: i dont have any USABLE cones for archer

[sage python]

comforts you

[round sandal]

Literally 😭

[terse ferry]

what path even is archer

[mild cloak]

There's a hunt LC in hertas shop

[clever seal]

Fucking hunt

[sage python]

is this bloons

[mild cloak]

Hsr

[clever seal]

I AINT GRINDING SU????

[round sandal]

Gives you a gold star

[sage python]

oh

[mild cloak]

oh my god

[terse ferry]

im gonna be real i dont even know what hunt lightcones exist becuase hunt march is the only hunt character i have

[clever seal]

are you fuckin kidding me

[mild cloak]

The free 5* hunt LC is basically the only one that exists

[clever seal]

im gonna roll for archer's cone rq

[terse ferry]

well i also pulled seele recently but i've yet to build her since i've been focusing on prepping for cas and evanescia

[mild cloak]

that bumass yanqing lightcone that gives you 32% critrate when missing a crit is cool too I guess

[mild cloak]

What are we doing goobessa

Do you have cerydra

[terse ferry]

non

[mild cloak]

please tell me you d

[clever seal]

CAS AND EVA???

[sage python]

yayy!!!!!

[clever seal]

yea instava kill me

[terse ferry]

i can't resist the pretty pinkhairs girlie 😭

[mild cloak]

None of you are innocent

[clever seal]

Oh please its not like you are

[sonic tangle]

idk what yall are talking about

[mild cloak]

I will be innocent after pulling eva

[terse ferry]

honkhonk car rail

[mild cloak]

I'm righting my wrongs

[mild cloak]

Hsr

[terse ferry]

alright gabriel 6-2

[mild cloak]

Seele needs Sunday or cerydra to be really good

maybe both actually

[clever seal]

both

[sacred elk]

My guy in repo looks like a freakshow man

[terse ferry]

i wasn't really pulling for seele tbf i just got her while pulling for cas

[mild cloak]

the buffs were fucking insane but she's still mediocre without the right supports

[clever seal]

since you both are here, might as well share my freaky ass desktop

[mild cloak]

but if you have a good enough team, you can 0-cycle all of endgame I guess

[sacred elk]

look at this fucking chud

[terse ferry]

atm the only dpses i have that aren't built (and that i probably won't build) are archer seele yanqing and clara

[mild cloak]

I'd be like Isaac too if I was stuck between that many gachas

[mild cloak]

Do you have sparkle

[terse ferry]

non

[mild cloak]

oh alright

Don't build archer then

[terse ferry]

dont think i have any sp supports

[steady vector]

Touhou luna nights spotted

[mild cloak]

archer is a really great dps with sparkle but he's useless without her

[clever seal]

oh yea right clara
last year relic recon gave me a motherfluking break focused set

[terse ferry]

was never planning to tbh

[clever seal]

A FUCKING BREAK SET, ON CLARA

WHAT THE FUCK

[mild cloak]

since you're pulling evanescia, what are your elation characters rn

[terse ferry]

instava i have a really funny story for you

[mild cloak]

I'm so fucking scared

[sage python]

gacha players claim gacha games have good gameplay actually, then you put them in a room and they start talking about which characters they have and havent gotten from gambling

[mild cloak]

Hsr has mediocre gameplay

[sage python]

sorry had to be said 💔

[livid idol]

Does that actually work???

[mild cloak]

arknights has peak gameplay

[terse ferry]

yao guang banner was up when i was low on motivation and ended before i got to pull her
the next time i pulled on a character event banner it was an instant 50/50 win

[mild cloak]

Arknights has no rng relic building system

[terse ferry]

i still actually fucking hate that i was ONE 10 pull away from yao

[mild cloak]

What was the banner...

[terse ferry]

hya

[mild cloak]

Oh that's fine

[sage python]

is garden warfare a gacha

[terse ferry]

yeag

[halcyon creek]

since we're talking about gachas i lowkey quit zenless cause of how weird the community has gotten

[mild cloak]

yeah maybe

[clever seal]

yes

[terse ferry]

reasonable tbh

[sonic tangle]

i mean due in part to the devs themselves

[mild cloak]

I was a day 1 zenless player but god

[clever seal]

@mild cloak holy ass

[halcyon creek]

but i want S rank billy SO bad

[livid idol]

Yeah cause like don't you gotta pull packs to unlock the variants of characters which do play differently?

[mild cloak]

the game lost all of it's charm

[livid idol]

If that aint gacha what is

[mild cloak]

it's all just goonbait and they removed the damned tv section

[halcyon creek]

sunbringer's design was such a waste man

[mild cloak]

I saw that 😭

[terse ferry]

anyway purely because of that fuck-up i will be fully saving for her rerun after i pull evanescia unless i have a damn good reason to pull on a different banner

[mild cloak]

Oh that's a jackpot on the flower

[steady vector]

Technically yeah...

[mild cloak]

Or headgear

[halcyon creek]

that and they just keep adding children to the game

[mild cloak]

Whatever it's called

[livid idol]

If you want a real gacha just play xenoblade chronicles 2 (I'm lying, because it's not gacha which makes it awesome)

[clever seal]

guess im ditching anaxa

[sonic tangle]

instava what arknights characters have pink hair

[mild cloak]

Goldenglow

[sonic tangle]

i need to bait goobessa into the game

[steady vector]

Is that aba in your pfp?

[clever seal]

onett no

[terse ferry]

she kinds gives off march vibes

[mild cloak]

Hello kitty girl

[sage python]

goobessa who is the guy from the joseph stalin gif

[terse ferry]

boothill

[livid idol]

???????

[sonic tangle]

send her default fit its better anyway

[livid idol]

Can we elaborate fox

[mild cloak]

Anaxa is a great dps if you manage to get cerydra

[sage python]

swag

[sonic tangle]

if i had to guess it is joseph stalin

[terse ferry]

what do you intend to use this information for fox

[sage python]

naurrr

[livid idol]

Thats not very kind of you to GATEKEEP information

[mild cloak]

Anaxa might still definitely work on the cyrene team

[sage python]

idk people talk about that game here frequently

[terse ferry]

yknow i never really understood whether anaxa was a main dps or a support dps

[mild cloak]

Both

[terse ferry]

that explains a lot

[mild cloak]

Ashveil is a support, main dps and subdps

[sacred elk]

Deepes

[mild cloak]

So I think anaxa can be main and sub

[sage python]

its funnier if you imagine it sorry

[livid idol]

It's funny thinking about XC2 because the blade resonating aspect (the gacha-like gambling for rare blades) just kinda makes each playthrough different and I've never felt needing specific rare blades for anything it just means I work with what I have and they're all cool characters

I've come around on xenoblade 2 after playing it more its very fun

[mild cloak]

Anaxa has insane dps potential with cerydra and cyrene

[terse ferry]

ceryrene

[mild cloak]

But he's also the best subdps for The Herta

[sonic tangle]

instava send lemuen i think goobessa might like

[terse ferry]

oh shit yeah he is erudition isn't he

[sage python]

is she called that cause she herts people

[terse ferry]

with her genius probably

[terse ferry]

pretty
why is she in a wheelchair

[mild cloak]

She's disabled

[sonic tangle]

why do people sit in wheelchairs

also send e2

[clever seal]

ughhh i havent finished grinding archer relics fuck me

[livid idol]

Why are the wheels angled

[terse ferry]

is awesome an appropriate word to convey my reaction

i don't think it is actually but you get what i mean

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its a wheelchair capable of speeding

send the lemuen vs executor gif

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I don't have that downloaded

[livid idol]

Maybe you should

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I really should

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speaking of gifs i should turn that joseph stalin image into an actual gif

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WHAT are we talking about

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oh was it the other one that was a gif?

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bro i search lemuen in gifs and it shows lumen what are we doing here

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Oh my god that's boothill

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anyway heres the gif

[terse ferry]

neither of them were gifs

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there is a surprising amount of pink haired characters in arknights pretty sure

[terse ferry]

1:28 of boothill trailer yeag

idk why i remember that timestamp

[sacred elk]

When the five nights is Freddy

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surprisingly few

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Does ascalon count

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ummmm

send her

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more red i would say

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Lin, Nymph, Ray

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nymph is more red

lin is more white

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Pozemka is completely pink

[sonic tangle]

ok true

[terse ferry]

potemkin

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uhh haruka i guess

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Viy is pink

[sacred elk]

Potemkin

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but haruka looks like shes from a totally different game

[terse ferry]

isnt that the girl from ba

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No

This is the E2 art

this is more red than pink imo

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eejh

[sacred elk]

That is pink

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Am I colorblind

[terse ferry]

it's a light pink that fades into reddish orange

[sacred elk]

I think I’d kill myself at that point

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civilight eterna is almost pink

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oh yeah isn't potemkin like stupidly strong

[sage python]

discussion of girls with pink hair makes me wanna play black jack in project diva

[sacred elk]

Speaking of potemkin I really hope marvel tokon adds man thing and he’s a grappler

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This girl

[sacred elk]

He was the prime example of why a grappler should never have movement

[livid idol]

Less so now but season 4.....

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oh god

[sacred elk]

A grappler gets to be top tier the world ends

[terse ferry]

grapple deez nutssss

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Wasn't season 4 really unbalanced in general

[steady vector]

Potemkin was given the tools he already had but put into a game with a smaller screen. Its like introducing an invasive species

[livid idol]

Me when im in potemkin rps hell where he needs me to fuck up once and i need him to fuck up like six times

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Yes. Very

They broke his ankles though

[sacred elk]

The 10-10 potemkin v chip matchup

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all I know is that they added Lucy and venom

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@mild cloak more traumadumping

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venom is cool as hell

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😭

[sacred elk]

They’re adding cyber ky

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Lucy, venom, unika, and dizzy. All boring

[livid idol]

Robert kyle

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My favorite rage baiter

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Is this supposed to have audio

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no