ror2-discussion

[vapid dagger]

one of the best items in the game actually

[sacred elk]

yeah it has 40% damage reduction now

[vapid dagger]

its a giant fuck you to sniper and engineer

[sacred elk]

black box now heals to full if it kills someone

[vapid dagger]

and really helps with everything else

didnt they reduce the damage penalty of the liberty launcher?

[sacred elk]

oh no sorry you only get the black box health if you kill someone

no

[vapid dagger]

the rocket launcher that just has faster rockets and a bigger clip?

[sacred elk]

liberty launcher had all of its downsides removed except for damage penalty

[vapid dagger]

what other downsides did it even have?

[sacred elk]

it now holsters and deploys faster too

[vapid dagger]

oh why tho?

[sacred elk]

blast jump damage

you think any of these changes make sense

[vapid dagger]

blast jump damage was always lower for that weapon

bc the damage was lower

[sacred elk]

dalokahs now gives you 100 health instead of 50

[vapid dagger]

yeah that one is ok actually

but also kind of insane still

[sacred elk]

huo long heater has been removed

[vapid dagger]

ive heard that weapon is just really underrated

[sacred elk]

for "blurring class lines" (sun on a stick now ignites)

the candy cane no longer has any downsides

[vapid dagger]

"we're removing the razorback" - a spy main

[sacred elk]

yes bro

Cleaners carbine has been remived

removed

[vapid dagger]

no mini crits for sniper >:(

[sacred elk]

flinching has been removed

[vapid dagger]

sniper buff

[sacred elk]

the cozy camper has had its health regeneration increased

dude theyre changing the website

[vapid dagger]

sure thing lets make the campy character campier

[sacred elk]

jarate is back in the game

and the huntsman

the sydney sleeper and classic are still dead in the water

airblast is now spammable across the board

phlog now has an airblast that deletes projectiles instead of reflecting them at the cost of 20 health (the only way to build crits is to use the airblast 5 times)

the backscratcher now has -100% health from healers instead of 75

the demoman now has the gunboats

the deadringer has been buffed (better cloak recharge rate and removed the activation delay after stabbing)

the crossbow now has a fixed damage of 42

the kritzkreg now has a 1.5 second delay to activating uber where medic yells at the top of his lungs

this shit gotta be bait bro

engineer can no longer build sentries underwater

the mini sentry now has damage ramp up, starting at 50% damage and going up to 125%

the mini sentry also has slower turn rate and 25% less knockback

so scout can break a mini sentry while taking like 10 damage max

the frontier justice has been removed

[livid idol]

I do not comprehend a single word said here

[sacred elk]

a dogshit tf2 rebalance mod made by 2 spy mains

[livid idol]

that does not change anything of what i said

[harsh crater]

Wasnt there a heavy-like survivor scrapped in rorr?

[sacred elk]

yeah

he had a weapon switching gimmick like the modded templar survivor

[terse ferry]

isnt that nemforcer from starstorm

[sacred elk]

no

heavy tf2

nemforcer switches his weapon in protect and serve but its still protect and serve

this dude would have had at least two primaries like mul-t

[grand torrent]

wtf is with the games performance all of a sudden???

[sacred elk]

i think your computer is imploding

[grand torrent]

i just installed and im getting 40fps on stage 1

i get 100fps on deadlock and that game is more graphically demanding

[sacred elk]

rik of ran

[grand torrent]

like its genuinely unplayable

i used to get 120fps on high loops with loads of items

it feels weirdly tied to halcyon shrines

[steady vector]

40 fps is not unplayable

[terse ferry]

was gonna say you might have to reinstall/verify integrity of game files because that's how you fixed it with an update that happened before but you said you just installed so like

[sacred elk]

tf2 rectified more like

abysmal dogshit

[terse ferry]

tf2 rectified is such a goofy sounding name

[sacred elk]

it sounds so full of itself

[versed crypt]

Recently I’ve been seeing a lot of people ride off or say that alloyed collective was mid personally I feel it was amazing and I interact with its features quite often

[sacred elk]

its like sillpack if it wasnt silly and it was made by redditora

[grand torrent]

yeah, i keep validating but every time i launch the game 2 files corrupt

[sacred elk]

i think im having a stroke

[grand torrent]

my specs havent changed since i last played

[sacred elk]

i cant type

[terse ferry]

ror2 ameliorated

[pastel shuttle]

When is jid coming to ror2

[sacred elk]

how much tf2 have you played goob

[steady vector]

Jid?

[pastel shuttle]

Jid 🔥

[steady vector]

Idk what that is

[terse ferry]

good amount
idk my exact playtime but it's in the lower hundreds i think

[pastel shuttle]

Rapper mainly known for "surround sound"

[terse ferry]

or it's 700

one or the other i forgot

[sacred elk]

fucking look at this shit https://sites.google.com/view/tf2rectified/home?authuser=0

[steady vector]

I aint clicking that

[sacred elk]

dont its so garbage

[steady vector]

In fact, im going to bed

[sacred elk]

its worse than grouches changes

on hit 8 seconds of bleed

[terse ferry]

why is it written like this

[sacred elk]

i dont know

also keep in mind that they are "unbiased"

[terse ferry]

it sounds like it's trying to be professional like how a laws or terms of service are written but they don't know how to properly articulate things in that way

[terse ferry]

so they're against DoT but not random crits???? 😭

and they're also delaying pocket pistol healing
they seem to really like burst and dying instantly huh

[sacred elk]

no if you look under general changes they removed random crits

[terse ferry]

ohhhh

[tawny pilot]

wait is this general tf2 or like a player run server

[sacred elk]

they include "removed random crits" and "removed flinching" in the item descriptions so you can implement the changes "in a vacuum"

[terse ferry]

player server

[tawny pilot]

fuck

[sacred elk]

these are proposed changes for a community server

[terse ferry]

trust me you dont want half of these changes wtf

[tawny pilot]

so valve still doesn't know tf2 exists

[tawny pilot]

i can imagine

[sacred elk]

they removed all of scouts primaries except the shortstop and stock

[tawny pilot]

what the fuck

[tawny pilot]

why

[sacred elk]

the backscatter and backburner have been removed for "blurring class lines"

(the ambassador is still in the game)

[tawny pilot]

what about the fuckin soda popper and force a nature

those are like, well within scout's wheelhouse by that logic

[sacred elk]

their change for the shortstop is that the shove has been replaced with a mini force a nature shot

so in there eyes its "redundant" to have the force a nature and the soda popper

[tawny pilot]

so they really just made him worse

[vapid dagger]

Guys i watched an entire video about bloons tower defense and yall are STILL discussing the shitty tf2 rebalance post made by salty spy mains?

[sacred elk]

its that ass bro'

[terse ferry]

bison buff is okay- NO PENETRATION???

[livid idol]

i was never discussing it

[valid granite]

Guys the mods that I installed for some fun in ROR2 is droping my fps like really bad

[sacred elk]

yes bro

the one fun thing about the weapon

[valid granite]

I am thinking of removing some mods

[forest crest]

how many did you install

[vapid dagger]

As long as we understand the situation

Now continue as if im not here

Bc im going to bed goodnight

[forest crest]

the more mods you add the harder it will be for your game to run because it's a unity game and it has to do more functions to keep up

[valid granite]

like 140 but most of them are API so it would nearly 50-55

[quartz umbra]

You know you fucked when you are relying on hunters harpoon

[terse ferry]

goobnight AC!

[valid granite]

ooh

[tawny pilot]

what did they do to pyro if anything at all

[valid granite]

gn see you later

[sacred elk]

All flamethrowers now deal 3-20 damage with ramp up

[tawny pilot]

????

[sacred elk]

Airblast is now spammable

Dot nerfed

[tawny pilot]

WHAT THE FUCK

[terse ferry]

they gave the flamethrower some overheat mechanic i dont feel like reading without removing the ammo

[sacred elk]

No flinching

[tawny pilot]

??????

[sacred elk]

Oh right the fucking overheat

[tawny pilot]

OVERHEAT??? ON A FLAMETHROWER??????

[sacred elk]

Spy now needs to be hit with three flame particles to get exposed

[tawny pilot]

That shit exists TO THROW FLAMES

It should not overheat

[terse ferry]

removed sticky spamming okay i guess

[sacred elk]

The loch and load has unlimited ammo now

[tawny pilot]

What the fuck are they cooking cause i think they need to get a carbon monoxide detector installed

[tawny pilot]

why?????????

What fucking server is this?

[sacred elk]

They halved the ammo but now it immediately reloads if you hit someone

[terse ferry]

.

[sacred elk]

They don’t have one yet

It’s just a website at the moment

[tawny pilot]

is this the 8 seconds of bleed server?

[sacred elk]

No completely different

[tawny pilot]

WHAT??????????

[terse ferry]

im fucking sorry they did this AND gave the charge a 1s windup???

girlie you're contradicting yourself 😭

[tawny pilot]

Fucking christ are they smoking something?

Cause if they are i want some

[sacred elk]

Make sure you really read what he did to the kritzkreg

[tawny pilot]

Like holy fuck

[sacred elk]

Because it’s not actually listed on the item card

[tawny pilot]

wait what

[sacred elk]

There is now a 1.5 second delay to activating uber SPECIFICALLY on the krtizkreg

[tawny pilot]

Huh??????

[sacred elk]

During this delay medic screams as loud as he can

[terse ferry]

alongside more uber charge rate

quick fix blast jump toggle is good i'll give them that

[tawny pilot]

Did they nuke the vaccinator or something?

[sacred elk]

Nope

[tawny pilot]

???????????

[sacred elk]

Still in the game

Medic is actually the only class that doesn’t have any removed weapons

[tawny pilot]

What about the diamondback? Or the kunai?

[sacred elk]

They killed the 67

[valid granite]

well here is the code of the mods that I installed
019e1a29-f1de-13ad-7bc0-81d25f00f965
if anyone wants to try this out be my guest

[terse ferry]

IM FUCKING CRYING

[sacred elk]

Diamondback is dead
Kunai now gives a flat 140 overheal no matter what
Dead ringer buffed

Spy is the only class to receive a completely new weapon

[terse ferry]

website made by two self-proclaimed spy mains btw

[quartz umbra]

ITS PERFECT, ALL PERFECT, I JUST NEED SPEED

[tawny pilot]

I need whatever they're smoking goddamn

[sacred elk]

It’s a sapper that takes 4 hits to kill but it doesn’t do damage to buildings

[quartz umbra]

Also phone cause I got no internet on pc

[sacred elk]

They actually changed sniper’s page the last time I checked

When I checked they removed jarate and the huntsman

[tawny pilot]

Did they make the natascha less painful to go up against? Or whatever one slowed you down when you got hit by it

[sacred elk]

And sniper could only generate charge if he was within 3 meters of an enemy

Now it’s just line of sight

[tawny pilot]

?????????????????????

[sacred elk]

Removed all together

[tawny pilot]

damb

[coarse merlin]

If there's ANYTHING that needed to be nerfed, it was the KRITZKRIEG

[sacred elk]

The tomislav is also not the tomislav anymore

[woeful python]

Wait this isnt vanilla right

[terse ferry]

no

[woeful python]

Ohhhh thank god

[sacred elk]

Hold on

[tawny pilot]

We got some fuckin 8 seconds of bleed ass changes here

[sacred elk]

No this is a terrible mod

[coarse merlin]

This is insane by the way

[terse ferry]

i mean okay but the ubersaw is still the best medic melee so who cares

[vapid dagger]

I changed my mind sleep is for the weak

[sacred elk]

also this is just absurd

[vapid dagger]

Imagine if natascha gave heavy a speed boost on hit

Instead of slowing the enemy down

[coarse merlin]

I feel so slighted and cheated by this heavy sneaking up on me, it's so unfair

[tawny pilot]

that's just stock at that point isn't it?

[sacred elk]

its stock but it does more damage at range

[coarse merlin]

Genuinely what is this

[tawny pilot]

Abysmal Dogshit

[sacred elk]

welcome back hunters harpoon

[sacred elk]

https://sites.google.com/view/tf2rectified/home?authuser=0

its so bad bro

[tawny pilot]

it all comes back to hunter's harpoon baybeeee

[coarse merlin]

The Melee That Hurts Your Hands

[terse ferry]

WQHY ARE WE BUFFIN GTELEPORTERS

[sacred elk]

i like how the priority was changed to be most to least speed

not the guy who was on the teleporter first

[terse ferry]

yeah that's a good change

[vapid dagger]

Spies arent allowed to use teleporters they dont know how they work yo

[tawny pilot]

i mean i guess those scouts are gonna need the teleport

[terse ferry]

though again i feel like all the good changes i'm seeing are the really common/generic good changes

[tawny pilot]

idk

[vapid dagger]

Scouts honestly should just be more considerate to their team

[sacred elk]

i dont know if you noticed this but every single bleed weapon either doesnt do bleed anymore or has been removed altogether

[vapid dagger]

Its a teamwork issue not a teleporter issue

[tawny pilot]

also i guess it's ever so slightly easier to get telefrags now with the lower cost

[sacred elk]

he kept the wrap assasain but removed its bleed and then removed the sandman

[vapid dagger]

Yeah bc bleed fucks up cloak

We removed bleed from the boston basher!

[tawny pilot]

give everything 8 seconds of bleed

[sacred elk]

and the flying gullotine

[vapid dagger]

literally why?

[terse ferry]

wrangler nerf is fine

[sacred elk]

wrangler nerf is fine yeah

[vapid dagger]

Wrangler nerf is fine

[terse ferry]

what what what what what

[sacred elk]

the gunslinger nerf on the other hand

[vapid dagger]

Short circuit being removed is also fine

[sacred elk]

look at the mini sentry nerfs

[tawny pilot]

HUH???????

[coarse merlin]

That's kinda funny

[terse ferry]

yeah mini sentry nerfs are ass but like what

[sacred elk]

this isnt even the only time he did this

[coarse merlin]

Is the whole mod just undoing every counter against spy

[sacred elk]

you KEEP THE SHOTGUN WITH JETPACK

[coarse merlin]

Nerf every melee

[vapid dagger]

Honestly gunslinger having no speed reduction when hauling would be interesting i think

[sacred elk]

and it goes instantly

[terse ferry]

yeah that's fine tbh

[sacred elk]

the engineer stuff is a lot more tame

outside of mini sentry being genuenly useless

[tawny pilot]

Yeah i guess that's inoffensive enough

[vapid dagger]

A lot of it is unnecessary but yeah

[sacred elk]

50% damage for a few seconds and reduced knockback

[vapid dagger]

My favorite change is short circuit dies

[sacred elk]

we need scout to be able to counter mini sentries

[tawny pilot]

short circuit is dead?

[sacred elk]

yeah

[vapid dagger]

Just kill that weapon

[sacred elk]

and the southern hospitality due to "unfairly punishing spy"

[tawny pilot]

good

[vapid dagger]

Yup

[thin saddle]

jeff the shark really sucks now imo

[sacred elk]

also this is fucking mental

oh oven i found the website

[terse ferry]

sure?
this is technically a close-ranged sniper quickscope nerf and an improvement to not knowing if there's a sniper somewhere but also if he's aiming at a teamfight it literally doesn't matter

[sacred elk]

they didnt delete it

[thin saddle]

send me ts

[sacred elk]

https://sites.google.com/view/tf2rectified/home?authuser=0

[knotty canyon]

okay everyone, TF2 time is over :)

[tawny pilot]

If you suck balls enough to get caught out in melee range of the engineer using it you deserve the bleed

[knotty canyon]

thanks for playing

[vapid dagger]

Changing the acquisition rules to match other liquids is good
Nuking overheal instantly is insane

[terse ferry]

we should probably discuss this in rorgulars or something

[sacred elk]

no more tem fort to

[terse ferry]

wait are any of you even in rorgulars 😭

[vapid dagger]

I am

[sacred elk]

wuzzat

[tawny pilot]

?

[vapid dagger]

Risky ryan the second

[vital depot]

separate server they made

[terse ferry]

rorcord regulars server

[potent marten]

hey

[terse ferry]

oh right
yeah check dms

[tawny pilot]

you can just shoot the generator and the ability's just kinda fucked over

[sacred elk]

marvel rivals more like

bloat

[vapid dagger]

Just ping me in the chat youre moving to

[thin saddle]

REAL REAL REAL REAL

[tawny pilot]

money factory

[potent marten]

ty ty ty

[knotty canyon]

enough

#other-games

saying enough tf2 talk was not an invitation to keep being off topic

[thin saddle]

I THINK SEEKER SUCKS!

[sacred elk]

i think

youre nutes

[thin saddle]

🥜

[tawny pilot]

[thin saddle]

"Railgunner" in "not fun"

[sacred elk]

shot dead

[vapid dagger]

Engineer next to loader in not fun is definitely insane to me

[thin saddle]

Loade is definitely fun

[tawny pilot]

railgun go pew pew

[vapid dagger]

Its just hard to process both of them

Theyre like polar opposite playstyles

[tawny pilot]

engineer can sit and scroll on his phone

[thin saddle]

That one south park skit about the family guy writers being narwhals who carry balls of topic but instead of family guy writers itsus

Truth: both are bad

[vapid dagger]

Theres only one thing worse than a loader main
Boom
Charged fist
No

[sacred elk]

i like

loader

[thin saddle]

EVERYONE GET IN THE CONTACT LIGHT! WE'RE LEAVING THIS MOON NOW! AHHH!! WHAT THE.. IMPOSSIBLE!.. THIS ISN'T THE SHIP! AHHH NOOOO!! NOOOO!! AHHH!! COMMANDO SLIDE!

[ionic glacier]

im operating all over the place

[vapid dagger]

Can i at least grab my bungus stash first?

[ionic glacier]

operator is so much fun

[iron palm]

i very rarely see people say loader is bad
i see people say merc is shit a lot of the time though and then they get humbled

what

[terse ferry]

was it loader bad or loader overrated

[ionic glacier]

my bf tells me over and over that loader is the second best character in the game, but whenever he plays her i have to revive him

[vapid dagger]

Today! And i wasnt a part of it!

[terse ferry]

there's a distinct difference there

[ionic glacier]

like every stage too

[iron palm]

i dont really see how someone could view loader as bad when basically the only tech you need to know with her is pylon boosting

[ionic glacier]

i played loader once, she seems cool she's js not my thing i don't think

[golden linden]

I never did a proper with survivor tier with my real opinion, so here goes one

[terse ferry]

yeah but the answer determines if i agree or not so likeeee

[iron palm]

understandable

[vapid dagger]

I would agree

[iron palm]

what is this based on

like how much you like them?

[vapid dagger]

Seeker in D tier

[ionic glacier]

this is certainly a list

i am observing a tier list, mhm

[golden linden]

didn't know if I would put her in E

[vapid dagger]

I cant take this list seriously whatsoever

Sorry i have no other thoughts

[ionic glacier]

perhaps one that was made on the hit indie game, risk of rain 2

a list of all time

[golden linden]

it's in a spectrum

bandit spot may be wrong too but I don't know

[sacred elk]

risk of rain on the spectrum

[ionic glacier]

huntress seems really low

[golden linden]

she is right where she belongs

[sacred elk]

im sorry omega but we have to kill you now

[golden linden]

no one that could fit before heretic

[ionic glacier]

she feels really strong she was the first character i beat mythix on solo monsoon

i got the game last week

[golden linden]

hey that's great

[harsh crater]

Captain in B :DDD

[vapid dagger]

#ror2-discussion message

[harsh crater]

Engi in A?

[tawny pilot]

mods, woodchipper the chat

[golden linden]

yeah he is not quite bright enough

[ionic glacier]

drifter feels really low too

[vapid dagger]

This was effortless

[ionic glacier]

and seeker

[tawny pilot]

take every message here and stick it in a woodchipper

[ionic glacier]

seeker is s tier

[terse ferry]

she's strong in the sense that she allows you to dodge freely while dealing pretty much passive damage

[harsh crater]

Yeah

[golden linden]

nobody like her tho

[terse ferry]

but in exchange her single target damage is pretty low

[harsh crater]

Engineer in A though???

[ionic glacier]

i like drifter she's really funny

[golden linden]

yeah he is not quite bright enough

[sacred elk]

i like drifer

[golden linden]

she really is I love her

[sacred elk]

i just think shes too bloated

[golden linden]

and very strong too

[ionic glacier]

me and my bf had some crazy tech whenever im abt to die he js kidnaps me and i can heal in the bag

its aura

[golden linden]

did you know that the shiv projectile does 800% base

[vapid dagger]

It does not tho?

[ionic glacier]

that tracks honestly

[golden linden]

I mean it's what the wiki says

[ionic glacier]

i feel like with delicate watches and bands though her single target damage isn't bad at all

[golden linden]

and I been feeling it be like that

[ionic glacier]

especially if u can get magazines to spam glaives

[golden linden]

the sticky bomb one also deals 800%

[iron palm]

huntress is one of the easiest character to play so she's very strong in that sense

[golden linden]

she is yeah

[vapid dagger]

It procs bands when you use it?

[terse ferry]

that applies to anyone tbf

[golden linden]

it does yes

[iron palm]

however her single target damage and health are very low

[terse ferry]

damage is damage for everyone involved

[iron palm]

even commando and rex bc shurikens exist

[golden linden]

800% is her biggest number not counting the legendary debris

[vapid dagger]

OH the cleanup shiv projectile

[golden linden]

yeah it's so stupid

[vapid dagger]

I thought we were talking about bandit

[iron palm]

cleanup is such a funny ability

[vapid dagger]

That was presented without context

[iron palm]

i love how both AC survivors' default secondaries basically turn into the moon knight RANDOM BULLSHIT GO! meme

[vapid dagger]

I dont

[iron palm]

of course you dont

[vapid dagger]

I much prefer cube for the wacky tech you can pull off with it

[golden linden]

it was kind of in context but I have a bad habit of not using the answer discord function

[primal prawn]

should i combo dues x machina with gesture

[exotic tiger]

the spray and pray

[iron palm]

well i think cube is more fun overall

[fresh idol]

spam click m2

[iron palm]

but im just saying like

[golden linden]

can't really combo it unless you get a whole bunch

[iron palm]

its funny how both of their defaults are just vomiting random shit

[vapid dagger]

Its funny i guess

[iron palm]

also cmd swarm is ass change my mind

[vapid dagger]

I do think it results in uninteresting gameplay

[iron palm]

i think cleanup is interesting in a different way from junk cube

it changes how you view your junk

[errant marsh]

Operator broken

[vapid dagger]

Flashing lights jingle the keys and put you in a trance

[golden linden]

I can go with either

both are nice and fun

[livid idol]

I think command swarm is kinda eh

[vapid dagger]

Cleanup is ok i guess but i dont really like how low the junk cost is

[vital escarp]

i think ror2 is kinda eh

[golden linden]

I think mnika is kinda nice

[errant marsh]

Ror2 sucks who plays it

[iron palm]

i think cmd swarm should've still had secondary effects based on the drone being used instead of slapping on a chance to ignite on crit (who fucking cares)

[golden linden]

:)

[fresh idol]

worst game i've ever played

0/10

[tawny pilot]

crowbar moment

[golden linden]

cathedrals for everyone with eyes to see

[livid idol]

for both secondaries on op you can just magdump always but at least default you can be more efficient with damage and healing by managing your drones

[iron palm]

like tell me, why does slamming a giant fricking tc-280 drone into an enemy deal the same damage as slamming a wimpy ass gunner drone

[vital escarp]

hey thanks i really needed to read that

[vapid dagger]

Ror2 was definitely the worst game ive played at one point

[errant marsh]

Just won an operator run after a perfected flying chimera ate 5 of my watches

[golden linden]

you're welcome!

[vital escarp]

now say youre proud of me

[fresh idol]

stop cooking AC we were just joking

[vapid dagger]

Its also been the best game ive played at another

[tawny pilot]

mmmm watches yummy :3

[livid idol]

mnika is underrated

[iron palm]

Worst game I've played will forever be paper mario sticker star

[vital escarp]

true??

[vapid dagger]

That one was pretty bad

[errant marsh]

Whoever dreamt up perfected elites is evil bro

[fresh idol]

hong kong 97

[iron palm]

take it up with john hopoo

[golden linden]

starbound 1.0

fuck.

[vapid dagger]

I remember gearing up for a boss only for literally every one of my attacks to get turned into slippers

[iron palm]

kamek yep

[golden linden]

SPACE JESUS MAN

[iron palm]

i didnt even get to that point

[livid idol]

sticker star sucks but

[iron palm]

i gave up in the 2nd chapter

[livid idol]

there is no but it just sucks

[iron palm]

becaues it took me like 10 tries to figure out how to beat the 1st boss

[vapid dagger]

And i didn’t even get my stickers back afterwards

[iron palm]

(i was a kid so dont judge me)

[livid idol]

color splash has a comedy aspect to it at least

[tawny pilot]

gimme a kasuga ichiban skin for false son

[sacred elk]

the stickers you used were still that sticker in the background

[iron palm]

why does the boss just obliterate you without hope of victory if you dont have its weakness
and then if you use its weakness it just dies

[vapid dagger]

It was oversimplified to the point of being obtuse

[iron palm]

thats not a fucking boss fight thats a gear check

[sacred elk]

so all of the good stickers you mightve accidentally used were gone for good

[golden linden]

can ichiban shoot laser from his eyes

[errant marsh]

Also today I learned operator can prevent mithrix from ever using pizza

[vital depot]

halcyonite shrine had a kinda tough selection between 5 items that i liked

[tawny pilot]

i mean he has a fucking orbital laser

[vapid dagger]

And then another boss that is an anti gear check in the same game

[vital depot]

I was so confident i wasn’t gonna get a sale star too, whatever

[golden linden]

that'd fit

[errant marsh]

Always bet on sale star

[vapid dagger]

Im pretty sure you dont even get your stickers back afterwards

[iron palm]

it was so bad that when i saw colour splash be revealed, the literal moment i saw that it had the same combat style as sticker star i was like lmao fuck that

[vapid dagger]

Yeah same

[iron palm]

you don't, the only precuation you have to avoid using your best stickers is that they retain their shininess and size

so if you have like a flashy rainbow slipper then you can just go "hmm thats a good one im not gonna waste it"

and it'll be turned back into what it was befoer after the fight

still an utterly idiotic design decision though

[vital depot]

Gearbox with the shameless HC plug

[vapid dagger]

That was what i was worried about

Thats like the bare minimum compensation for such an asspull

[golden linden]

her opinion
hasn't procced

[iron palm]

welcome to sticker star

[vapid dagger]

I got really far in that game and i never really finished

[iron palm]

quite literally the only partially redeeming factor about that game was its soundtrack but even then its still mid compared to the other paper mario games

[sacred elk]

more like

sticker bad

[iron palm]

Well kamek is the 2nd to last boss

[vapid dagger]

Yeah

[vapid dagger]

YOU HAVE TO FIGHT KAMEK AGAIN???

[iron palm]

No, he's the last boss before the final boss

[vapid dagger]

No hes not

[iron palm]

After fighting him you do some pointless parkour then run hands with bowser

[iron palm]

Oh

Where did you fight him if you remember

[vapid dagger]

Somewhere in the desert

[iron palm]

💀

[vapid dagger]

Like at the top of a pyramid

[iron palm]

Yep i guess you do fight him multiple times

[vapid dagger]

Or something

[iron palm]

and its the same slipper gimmick every time

[vital escarp]

more like earthbound 1.0

[vapid dagger]

How does it get worse

[golden linden]

not even close lol

[iron palm]

he starts cloning himself in the last fight iirc

[vital escarp]

why..

[golden linden]

you can't even go to earth in that game

[vapid dagger]

Im so glad i didnt finish now

Ive played some bad RPGs but oooooh thats some dogshit combat with some even worse fight gimmicks

[coarse merlin]

Super paper Mario is THE BEST paper Mario game
Origami king is the second BEST Paper Mario game

Replace "best" with something like "my favorite"

[vapid dagger]

I have not played origami king

[sacred elk]

its whatever

[vapid dagger]

I liked ttyd and super pretty equally tho

[fair knoll]

But it’s not ror2

[vapid dagger]

It is not

Ror2 is better

[fair knoll]

Glad we agree

[sacred elk]

true...

[golden linden]

fishing minigame for ror2

[vapid dagger]

Add it Somewhere in some hidden domain thatd be actually pretty cool

Actually fuck it
Entire alternate game mode that’s just fishing

How to boost sales

Add a fishing mode

[coarse merlin]

The soundtrack is peak, I like the story a lot
The main complaint people have is the combat, it's very different from traditional paper Mario
But I don't like trad paper Mario combat so I just keep winning

[vapid dagger]

I understand what real players want

[coarse merlin]

Battle Royale mode

[potent marten]

you're not ror2

[exotic tiger]

pvp

[vapid dagger]

I am also not ror2

[vital escarp]

then john ror2 genuinely pulls up

[vapid dagger]

Ror2 is better than me

[golden linden]

hi also not ror2 I am omega

[fair knoll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145899492269367336/1199154486757834792/MithrixBanned-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[undone grail]

oh if only desperado stacked between stages (i know it doesnt but it would still be really cool)

[fair knoll]

It took me a minute to scroll through my favourite

[sacred elk]

flattened

[livid idol]

oh are we talking about favorite ror2 gifs?

[vapid dagger]

I Am die thank you forever

[fair knoll]

My favourite…

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559902049333018624/1004126913637400666/acrid.gif

[golden linden]

I am biased

[livid idol]

i need vr mod to get updated eventually

[sacred elk]

so true

[fair knoll]

The item ones are also great

https://tenor.com/view/shaped-glass-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-gif-25652398

[fair knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-ro-r-ro-r2-item-gif-25584819

[errant marsh]

What is false son doing bruh

[golden linden]

I'll embed fail my next one

https://klipy.com/gifs/kjaro-band--k01KRD5XFPF32HA0Q7VHR4SZT6C

y'all know the one

[fair knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-desk-plant-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-gif-25521008

[fair knoll]

Classic

https://tenor.com/view/singularity-band-singularity-band-ror2-risk-of-rain-gif-25286675

I might play some ror2

Perchance

Bit of loader (I never play loader)

[sacred elk]

no way

[vapid dagger]

my favorite

[fair knoll]

Is this ai

[vital depot]

red time

[vapid dagger]

its kfc

[fair knoll]

Great

[sacred elk]

no the kfc console was announced back in like 2019 or something

its a gaming console that can also cook fried chicken

[fair knoll]

I uh don’t keep up with kfc related news

[mint robin]

playing chef for the first time and i do not understand the hate, his dps is bonkers

[sacred elk]

you should honestly

[vapid dagger]

i think my favorite part of the gif i just noticed is that tonic turns off for a super brief moment before mithrix strikes the loader

[sacred elk]

they do the weirdest things

kfc dating sims

kfc horny movies

[fair knoll]

Yeah chef is really good, the hate was around chef 1.0

Chef’s proc co are insane

[sacred elk]

sorry "romance"

[mint robin]

the flame secondary is bonkers

absolutely stupid DPS

[sacred elk]

they definetly dont have an entire section of their marketing team dedicated to making sexy colonel sanders

didnt the kfc console never release period

collectors item that goes for $2500

[mint robin]

are empathy cores bugged? the drones arent spawning for me

[errant marsh]

Wait until you unlock yes chef lol

[golden linden]

you may have reach the ally cap (?)

[mint robin]

i can keep recruiting more tho?

[golden linden]

bought drones aren't limited to it, but contribute to it

[ionic glacier]

i love how silly the contrast in survivors is

[iron palm]

If you have 20 allies at once you can't get more (with the exception of buying drones)

[golden linden]

The Probes will not respawn once the player has hit the ally limit of 16, making 14 allies the maximum amount that can be active at a time to ensure that the Probes can always be active.

[errant marsh]

Demigod with infinite damage potential vs guy with two guns

[iron palm]

wait its 16? i thought it was 20

[ionic glacier]

you have like super secret specialists and interdimensional beings and artificial gods and then there's kidnapper dwarf and cook robot

[ionic glacier]

yes omh

[errant marsh]

Cook robot is overpowered as shit which makes it even funnier

[ionic glacier]

and all of operators unlocks are named after movie tropes

"welll, that just happened!"

[vital depot]

love how i suddenly become very very sleepy when i play ror2 but when i stop i wake up again

[errant marsh]

Operators cool ass unlocks vs the sheer consistency and utility of his default abilities

[iron palm]

Firewall would be cool if it wasnt so inconsistent

I would deadass rather have bubble shield than firewall

[golden linden]

how do you find it inconsistent?

[iron palm]

So much shit that should get blocked by it doesn't

i once used it to block a vagrant nuke and somehow got hit through it

[golden linden]

ah I don't use it as a shield at all

maybe that's why

[iron palm]

what do you use it for then

cause if its for mobility then i can't fathom why anyone would use it over ascent protocol

[golden linden]

it pushes groups to a single spot, allowing me to dump nanobug in all of them at once and cmd swarms everyone at once too as it has a small aoe

[errant marsh]

Operators default abilities are just too good

[golden linden]

very usefull to put them where you want too

[errant marsh]

I can't find myself swapping them out ever

[iron palm]

so you basically use it as a combo tool?

[golden linden]

like a no bullshit rex push

more of a cc tool that comes with combo capabilities

[iron palm]

Mk

[golden linden]

it also has infinite pierce so it procs nicely

[iron palm]

yeah see for me if i wanted raw crowd control I would use amp core

[vital escarp]

i read that as no bullshit rex plush

[errant marsh]

Yes sacrifice all of operators single target

[golden linden]

what

combo and cc?

[iron palm]

better than sacrificing literal flight also lets him proc bands good

however i do agree

[golden linden]

cc for me is more pertinent to one's ability to control movement than simply targeting a space

[iron palm]

i run full default anyways

[sacred elk]

rex push

[past charm]

why?

[golden linden]

I use aoe for the latter

[mint robin]

polyute vs uke on chef?

[sacred elk]

there is no l

[golden linden]

polylute

[errant marsh]

Lute gaming

[sacred elk]

rex push is his utility

rex plush is a toy

[golden linden]

rex and firewall?

[past charm]

everyone knows how good Titanic knurl is

[golden linden]

rex push has to deal with the ground friction

[mint robin]

i like the uke

[golden linden]

firewall does the push it to somewhere else no questions asked

[iron palm]

yesterday i tried experimenting with operator's alts again and the literal only one i felt was close to matching his default was amp core but even then i didnt think it was worth using overall
To me operator's alts feel like a palm blast situation where you are giving up the character's raw strength for the sake of making them easier to play

[mint robin]

should i be swapping it for the void one

[golden linden]

I would

[golden linden]

you really are not, how been you using cmd swarms?

[errant marsh]

Amp core feels so dogshit because it means I lose like 50% or more single target damage

[golden linden]

are you using the paint feature of it

[iron palm]

been trying to but it irritates me

also the damage just feels pathetic

[golden linden]

yeah so, don't, lmao

just spam click it

[past charm]

top items 4 me r:
TITANIC KNURL
Runald's/Kjaro's bands
Soldier's syringe (60 of them in simulacrum)
and holup
LENS MAKERS GLASSES
ARMOR PIERCING ROUNDS
CROWBAR
FOCUS CRYSTAL
YAAAAAA

[golden linden]

you'll be able to both send the bot and shoot during it

[iron palm]

soooo basically just treat it like his default m2

[golden linden]

yes

[iron palm]

however if you dont try to paint targets doesnt that mean theres a chance you target the wrong enem-wait thats an issue with default too im stupid

[golden linden]

yep

and as a bonus, cmd swarms goes over the nanobugged cap

[errant marsh]

I can't give up admin override gunner drone attack speed scaling

It's too juicy

[golden linden]

meaning it will deal extra dots of damage and keep the enemy in the air longer

[iron palm]

one thing i will say i hate about cmd swarm that nothing will ever change likely

it just feels lame to use

theres hardly any impact for the drones hitting the target

[golden linden]

I digress for that

I always have "go my minion!"

and they die of death

I should have some footage for it

[iron palm]

and, again, i also wish that instead of igniting enemies on crit (because who tf cares unless you printed ignition tanks), each drone added something to the move

it feels so wrong to me that a tc-280 ramming a target is the exact same as a gunner or healing drone

[golden linden]

I care, it does it in a bigger aoe than the regular attack

also death mark value which I like

[iron palm]

i guess but it feels tacked on

[golden linden]

eh

[golden linden]

it does make it really powerful

[livid idol]

the ignite does feel really weird

[iron palm]

however

[golden linden]

and also you get the benefit of not getting to deal with drone rng

[iron palm]

i do like that he has a consistent alternative

because after all admin override does become random bullshit go once you get some drones

[golden linden]

it's part of the fun, but I like having just the drone function

[sacred elk]

yeah but drone funny

[golden linden]

it really be

just advocating for it being a nice consistent option

lots of things about his alts are misguided

[iron palm]

yes

and now that i know youre uspposed to ignore the target painting option ( i was basically treating it like engi harpoons)

[errant marsh]

Admin override gunner drones ate fucking cracked I will never ever use cmd swarm

[iron palm]

i will try it again

@golden linden what starting drones do you use with cmd swarm

[golden linden]

doc and crosshairs

[iron palm]

makes sense

[golden linden]

test nano bugged on a golem then spam click swarms on it

being able to shoot while spamming it will assure you that every drone shot will get you 4 extra nano bugged hits

per drone

[sacred elk]

why are you larger

Why is that one so small

[golden linden]

kiwi

[iron palm]

im gonna go try cmd swarm rn

[sacred elk]

I can’t wait for the full game

[iron palm]

though i will say even if i do find it better to use (Which i likely will) ill probably still use admin override as i feel it better fits the spirit of the character (+ hehe gunner drone go brrrr)

[sacred elk]

Who should I fight

Robots or purple

[golden linden]

that is totally fair

[iron palm]

mann vs machine in ror2

[sacred elk]

which chud should i use

[iron palm]

wait

[golden linden]

your main WHAT

I like the blue 7 one

[sacred elk]

old man lizard

[iron palm]

hold up actually
what if there was a gamemode like mann vs machine in ror2 where you have to defend an objective from incoming enemy waves

🤔

Simulacrum is wave defense but its kind of uninteresting because the only thing you need to defend is yourself

[sacred elk]

We should call it digitalpiece

[golden linden]

ror2 has this thing that the director can't spawn different enemies at once right

it spends one distinct enemy at a time

it'll never spawn some lemurians beetles and wisps at the same time

[iron palm]

i dont see why that would be an issue for an objective defense mode

[golden linden]

it'll do them in an order

oh no it isn't

just saying that wave games like that are interesting because of the variety of threats

like says your camo/ceramic/purple bloons

ror2 doesn't have it and for it to be interesting it would need something like that

[woeful python]

Plating eclipse 8 lowkey been getting exhausting for me

[golden linden]

and base game could use it too

[woeful python]

At least going for dlc routes

[iron palm]

ngl i might have to redo my survivor fun tier list just to put railgunner a bit higher

[woeful python]

I love eclipse 8 mithrix but trying to do solus wing on eclipse 8 is hellllll</3 just such an annoying fight

[iron palm]

now that i dont completely suck ass with her i find her quite ab it more interesting

[woeful python]

I should do one of those rn

[iron palm]

plus ive discovered my preferred playstyle with her

alt secondary and default special

[vernal heath]

What the hell are you playing

[sacred elk]

voidling bound

[iron palm]

railgunner typhoon done (yes i obliterated bc commencement takes too long)

now lets try cmd swarm on operator again

and i had worse results than using it normally

alright yeah no if i die on stage 1 with it thats an immediate fat L

never using it again

[golden linden]

lmao

i'll go to sleep now so good luck

[iron palm]

wait i forgot to equip the healing drone mfw im stupid

[woeful python]

ok fun tier list done, keep in mind i enjoy playing every character bc i like this game

being so real the "peak!" tier is really the "perfect character but way too overpowered" tier

[iron palm]

idk if i'd say operator is overpowered per se

he definitely is in some situations thanks to ascent protocol but yeah

[iron palm]

since you did one i decided to update mine

[thin saddle]

imagine if egocentrism gave stacks based on rarity

if egocentrism takes white it gives 1 if egocentrism takes green it gives 2 if egocentrism takes red it gives 3

would make an already stupid item even stupider and fun

[woeful python]

Operator is op bc be benefits equally as much from pure damage item and proc items

Genuinely ur getting an insane benefit from any damage item at all

[thin saddle]

why captain so low 😢

[iron palm]

theres only 2 reasons to play him
1: Diablo strike, which i dont like because of how slow it is and its friendly fire
2: Beacons, which I dont like because they're one time use

[thin saddle]

I like captain cause with enough drones you can aura farm

and also he arguably has the best primary

[iron palm]

i guess his passive is nice but i dont really care when its on such a boring character

[thin saddle]

lol

[thin saddle]

having a lotta drones is fun imo cause it's a spectical

[languid crystal]

captain deserves higher

[thin saddle]

much agree muchacho

[iron palm]

[thin saddle]

operator is pretty close but merc?!

[iron palm]

Expose tech

[thin saddle]

😭

[thin saddle]

ik I wouldn''t call it stronges tthough

[iron palm]

to each their own i suppose then

[thin saddle]

it being takes it down multiple notches in itself

[thin saddle]

mhm

[iron palm]

captain just feels like the most nothing burger character imo

engineer has more involved gameplay than him

[thin saddle]

he's an all rounder

besides mobiltiy cause fuck em he old

he got burst with airstrikes proc with shotgun defense from microbots

[terse ferry]

game where survivors each have four skills and one of the survivors has a skill that is 2 uses per stage, a skill that doesn't work on bosses, and a skill that's either m1 but it explodes or nuke with a 40s cooldown

[thin saddle]

how 😭

[thin saddle]

oh yeah I definitely hate the captain restrictions

[iron palm]

because his abilities actually matter

[thin saddle]

I get it's for mah lore reasosns but it pmo

[thin saddle]

most useless m1 in the game award

[iron palm]

taser might quite literally be the worst secondary in the game

the orbital probes are boring

[thin saddle]

yeah taser sucks

[iron palm]

diablo strike is too annoying to use

[thin saddle]

orbital probes are boring??

[iron palm]

and beacons, which are basically his main draw, is 2 use per stage

[thin saddle]

I quite find it fun to bombard enemies from across the map

[terse ferry]

i wonder if there's a program that allows me to track the number of times i press specific buttons

playing captain and merc and seeing how often i press each of their buttons

[iron palm]

[grand torrent]

anybody have any idea how to fix having to verify the game files on every launch

[thin saddle]

thought you hated railgunner

[iron palm]

Since i got muted i decided to try using her way more

Had an epiphany and realized i was playing UNGODLY badly with her

[terse ferry]

mute of character development

[thin saddle]

also bad faith argument ngl
"I love how much proc commando has!"
"ermmm ??"

[iron palm]

I still think shes overrated but even before i came to that realizatio ni still thought she was more fun than captain

[livid idol]

character growth :)

[iron palm]

because she actually has an identity

[livid idol]

but yeah no she's overrated

[thin saddle]

yeah ok railgunner has better range attacks cause SHE'S THE SNIPER CHARACTER 😭

[halcyon creek]

7 maybe 7.2

[thin saddle]

I quite like railgunner too

my other main aside from captain

shit movement on both tho nothing feels worse than falling off a ledge

[iron palm]

Well mul-t is pretty much the tank whereas commando is more light on his feet

[thin saddle]

wait so your argument is captain has no identity right?

if so I kinda agree idk what he's tryna be but he's pretty fun

he's trying too much stuff at once which I sorta like

[iron palm]

Its a combination of lack of identity and his moves just generally not feeling good to use that really kills it for me

I hate how a lot of rex's abilities feel too but he at least fills a niche no other survivor does withi the self damage + extreme healing

[thin saddle]

probes is always a spectical hearing the multiple bum bum bum

[terse ferry]

captain is definitely trying to be like an area control kind of guy but in execution he's just the m1 sim that gets extra benefits during the teleporter

[thin saddle]

which I like!!!

I mostly play captain for his drones

[halcyon creek]

the thing i hate the most about captain is the lack of movement, other than that he's a really good survivor imo

[iron palm]

however

[thin saddle]

wish upgraded drones took 2 microbots but it is what it is

[iron palm]

i will say one thing

any time where im feeling like specifically doing a run where i let drones do all the work captain is the go to pick

[halcyon creek]

has to be accurate to ror1 smh

[terse ferry]

-# he also does the area control special thing better than captain with tangling growth

[iron palm]

because he is the only character who directly buffs drones
whereas operator is buffed by drones

[thin saddle]

yeah das my use for it

[sharp pewter]

is new robot dlc good?

[thin saddle]

captain makes me feel like him

[iron palm]

but i dont really do drone-based runs often

[halcyon creek]

i loooove using rex

[iron palm]

if i dont get spare drone parts i dont really see a point to it

[terse ferry]

yeah can we talk about this actually
rex does a better job manipulating enemy movement and playing around specific ranges than captain

[halcyon creek]

he sucks for eclipse tho

[thin saddle]

new is a strong word but yeah it's very good

[thin saddle]

captain's trying to be more support I think

[iron palm]

because all it needs is mithrix pizza, running into void implosions, false son doing anything, void locus, solus wing heat phase, or solus heart's fatass laser pillars to shred them

[terse ferry]

he's kinda trying to be both i would say

[thin saddle]

probes meant to do area control from range and of course beacons

[halcyon creek]

alloyed is pretty good, only bad thing i can say about it is that the alloyed enemies are quite strong

[iron palm]

• theres only 2 items that buff your drones

[thin saddle]

mithrix pizza fucking sucks it's like the Hitler of ror2

[sharp pewter]

yeah, but its new for me because i kinda didnt played the game that much lately.

[thin saddle]

then get it! now I say now!

[iron palm]

thats a weird way to spell blind pests

[terse ferry]

rex and cap kinda have a lot of overlap which you can see if you run them in multiplayer
it's actually really fun to do stuff like dunk enemies into diablo strike

[sharp pewter]

is the new robot guy fun?

[thin saddle]

blind pests is the underlings

[halcyon creek]

operator? i think so but i never got a decent run with them

[terse ferry]

extremely

[tough basalt]

Best character

[thin saddle]

drifter and captain combo is always so fun though

[halcyon creek]

yeah i can tell buddy

[thin saddle]

you can bag interactables and place em into hack beacons

[terse ferry]

i despise hack beacon so i never really vibed with captain drifter

[tough basalt]

Bro legit all my operator runs are god

[halcyon creek]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-fern-stare-frieren-fern-fern-frieren-gif-9111348954828470896

[thin saddle]

hack beacons are stupidly overrated but it does save a lotta time

[halcyon creek]

embed fail

[coarse merlin]

I used to play a ton of yomi back in the day, like a year ago
About half a year ago I was bored and decided I would try a game
I picked my favorite, ninja, and expected to be rusty as the curiosity rover

I felt like doc Hudson coming out of retirement, I pounded my opponent into a fine powder and didn't break a sweat
It was exhilarating

[thin saddle]

frieren fern stare frieren fern fern frieren gif

[tough basalt]

Just stack drones and fly around

[halcyon creek]

its the one where her eyes become 👀

[thin saddle]

did you see that?

[halcyon creek]

see what 👀

[thin saddle]

👀 \

[terse ferry]

fighter jet of doom and despair

[tough basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/boois-rags-cat-eyes-emoji-gif-7704442463942354243

[coarse merlin]

If all the survivors were running for president, who would you vote for
If you live in a country without a presidency, assume the current government evaporates and a democratic republic materializes

[halcyon creek]

acrid

[iron palm]

ok i decided to bump up railgunner a lil more

[tough basalt]

Yea just from drone to drone

[iron palm]

no more than that though

[thin saddle]

hardlight afterburner on shit like operator or acrid is an instant win

and Diablo captain too but I fucking hate Diablo rips off my legs

[tough basalt]

Or spare drone parts

[terse ferry]

sdp is a win on anyone

[coarse merlin]

I love afterburner, it feels like one of the purest reds

[iron palm]

also btw this tierlist isn't fully indicative of how often i actually play these survivors

[thin saddle]

gets sdp but ignores drones cause I won't let a non-sentient item dictate me 🥶

[terse ferry]

afterburner is awesome it's powerful and fun without being gimmicky or situational

[halcyon creek]

one of my favorite reds, only behind clover for me

[iron palm]

despite me placing huntress in the middle she's my most picked survivor because she's by far the easiest to play and i'm often looking for a stress-free experience

[livid idol]

engineer harpoons

[iron palm]

that doesn't mean i enjoy playing her the most

[coarse merlin]

Sometimes it's hilariously powerful, and sometimes it's just really nice to have
It easily passes inspection either way

[thin saddle]

aactually rndthursday told me huntress is bad and underpowered so I have to shit on you now

[halcyon creek]

engi harpoons + icbm + afterburner 👀

[thin saddle]

-# 12 hours of ror2 playtime

[tough basalt]

Best item is that corrupted one that converts your items into a better quality every stage

[iron palm]

easiest to play doesn't always equal best to play
and best to play doesn't always equal easiest to play

[halcyon creek]

benthic bloom

[terse ferry]

genuinely how i feel whenever i hop on wizard for one game before getting bored again

[tough basalt]

Yes

[thin saddle]

harpoons are good but ok idk why people gas them up like it has the power of the sun but I must say ICBM makes it awesome

[halcyon creek]

i dont like using it im gonna be honest it mostly just ruins my runs

[oak shell]

Hello o

[coarse merlin]

I just like using forbidden techniques like the giant shuriken and nunchuck laser

And hustling whenever I'm not sure what to do

It never fails, often because it lets me set up another nunchuck laser

[thin saddle]

I love the rocketeer mod so much cause ICBM affects ALL of his moves bseides the C4

[terse ferry]

rushdown wizard is awesome btw

[iron palm]

merc is imo the 2nd strongest vanilla survivor if you can play him at a high level
but you will be sweating bullets the whole time especially if youre using slicing winds

[thin saddle]

seeker 👀

[halcyon creek]

if you shake your camera you can apply them really fast

[thin saddle]

dude where's your best friend my senile dying iron lung decrepit great grandpa needs it

[oak shell]

Mercenary has the durability of wet paper

[iron palm]

have you seen how many people hate the meditate quick time event

[tough basalt]

I dont know how good this run is considered but once i got it i just obliterated everything

[thin saddle]

you genuinely need to be a literal toddler if you fail the QTE

[terse ferry]

they got hit by chronobauble irl

[oak shell]

[tough basalt]

The secret boss died in 3 seconds

[thin saddle]

thank you bro

[iron palm]

they literally made palm blast just for people who can't do it

[thin saddle]

makes move for people who can't do QTE
by far worse move in the arsenal
what did gearbox mean by this?

[halcyon creek]

man it hurts hitting double mountain shrine and getting overloading worm but the tp drops 3 lepton daisies

[iron palm]

maybe they were mocking their ineptitude idk

[thin saddle]

you WILL take your borderline WHITES and LIKE IT

[woeful python]

Palm blast is literally a harder move to use

[terse ferry]

they said in the dev diary it was for people bad at the qte and made the unlock doing the qte 20 times in a row so likeee
yeah

[thin saddle]

😭

[iron palm]

i'm aware but some people still use it just to not have to sit still for the minigame

[woeful python]

Once yalls one move u know is like technically optimal or better for the kit but u dont use it just bc u hate it that much

[halcyon creek]

i spent like 10 minutes killing the worms and they all kept going miles away from tp 💔

i forgot the name but i was on the alt stage 5

[terse ferry]

also this reminds me of that one time i got meditate qte to sync up with fs theme
it was neat

[halcyon creek]

the stupid lava one

[tough basalt]

U need some black hole ability

[iron palm]

Counterpoint: I use junk cube on drifter despite cleanup being objectively better

Plenty of people use laser of the father on false son despite lase rburst being infinitely ebtter

[tough basalt]

I think junk cube is sillier but i cant use it properly in fights

[terse ferry]

mega im gonna be real ive never seen someone use lotf

[iron palm]

I use directive drill on rex despite seed barrage being objectively better

[halcyon creek]

rate the terrible profile

[terse ferry]

and the fact there have been zero lotf mods released since sots phase 3 says something 😭

[iron palm]

maybe im misremembering then

but idk its weird given how much people were sucking it off before phase 3

i was like the only person who used laser burst before it got buffed

[terse ferry]

that's because it had the funny scaling bug

[iron palm]

what scaling bug

[thin saddle]

MITHRIX!! YOU'RE DEADDDDDD!!

[woeful python]

CLEANUP IS BETTER????

[iron palm]

also i use flamethrower over ion surge despite it being no contest

[halcyon creek]

can you tell i forget to save for hopoo feathers 💔

[terse ferry]

lotf was coded to increase its own attack speed while firing then reset its attack speed when the skill finished

they forgot to add the line of code that resets it

[livid idol]

by a fair bit

[thin saddle]

I dislike junk cube cause it has way less gimmicks than cleanup (like the random items like sticky bombs and stuff)

[woeful python]

My big one is i refuse to use rebarb puncher

[thin saddle]

father why do you dislike invincible memes 😢

[iron palm]

💀

[woeful python]

Straight up never knew this

[thin saddle]

what shows you watch tell me

[woeful python]

I just figured it was like returns where junk cube is like the obviously better option

[thin saddle]

any bro any

[livid idol]

it does more than cube on average ignoring the fact that its also a proc machine

[harsh crater]

Operator should lowkey have a pilot skin, i mean mul-t has a han-D skin and railgunner has a sniper skin

[halcyon creek]

trueeee and you cant even do the junk cube strat in newt anymore

[terse ferry]

you should try cleanup cancelling when you can
it's pretty funny

[iron palm]

Running tornado slam with cleanup is also peak comedy

[thin saddle]

you can't get scrap from junk cube in newt anymore? I always use it to reroll the cauldron

[halcyon creek]

does anyone actually use lunar stakes on false son?

[iron palm]

nope you can't

[thin saddle]

holy fucking ass bro

[terse ferry]

yeah the only situations where cube out-dpses cleanup are if you don't m1 cancel and either get the worst luck possible or only get common projectiles
i did some math a few weeks ago

[iron palm]

plenty of people do because it hits harder and inflicts more lunar ruin total

also has crowd control

and scales better with mags

[halcyon creek]

mmm okay now thats fair

[thin saddle]

it's been 3 milleniums and you haven't finished BB and BCS?

[halcyon creek]

i always thought the spikes were better but thats good to know

[iron palm]

its pretty much a matter of preference
Do you want a minigun or a rocket launcher?

[terse ferry]

cube does outdamage cleanup at longer ranges but because of cube's limited range this isn't as relevant as one would think

[thin saddle]

I can never understand rewatching shows cause in no way is it possible to like it the same amount

[halcyon creek]

rocket launcher of course

[iron palm]

lol

[terse ferry]

some cleanup projectiles actually have a longer range than cube which is funny, though you do miss out on the shotgun burst damage

[thin saddle]

I'm js watching the boys and invicible rn I already finished all my other shows
I tried to get into daredevil: born again but holy did I fall asleep

[halcyon creek]

meta skill choices frfr

[sonic tangle]

hi guys

[thin saddle]

I quite like bcs but rewatching it just feels like a chore

[vernal heath]

Literally only non-meta one is the secondary tbh and even then it's FS so it's broken

[thin saddle]

trust me I tried it's very peak I just cannot get myself to see it again once I''ve seen practically everything

[potent marten]

Bye

[thin saddle]

BB has more hype moments

[halcyon creek]

i just need hp and i win