ror2-discussion

[thin saddle]

last time I got it was like early SOTS release I don't check ts anymore!

[golden tide]

What kind of reward?

[molten hound]

hello dr.fetus from the hit game super meatboy

[thin saddle]

isn't he dead

[golden linden]

tyler unlocked hoof

on sacrifice...

[molten hound]

abortion

tyler once carried me to e8

and he was on PRE ROADMAP CHEF

[blissful torrent]

hoof has an unlock condition?

[golden linden]

fail shrine uuuh 4 times?

[molten hound]

yea for failing chance shrine like 5 times

[golden tide]

Lose gamba thrice in a row

[blissful torrent]

oh that's hoof no wonder i didn't realise, it was literally the first thing that happened to me in the game

[thin saddle]

tyler unlocked FMP

without ever dying..

same with blast shower..

[molten hound]

tyler got clovers on a small chest....
ON HIS FIRST EVER RUN.

[thin saddle]

tyler unlocked focused assault
on a run where he had NO ABILITIES..

[blissful torrent]

shoutouts to ror2, where my first experience was a 6 loss streak on a gamba shrine

[sage python]

mine was being launched into the stratosphere by a stone titan on console

[golden linden]

I remember my first death

vagrant on roost

[molten hound]

i cant remembeoreoroereoreore

[flint vortex]

i think my first run was with my friend and i hit the 100 wax quail strats

[thin saddle]

my first ever experiecne with ror2 was getting a (what I can recall) a Dio's on my first large chest and dying without even realizing what a Dio's was

[blissful torrent]

literally the first thing i did was kill some enemies and play a chance shrine 6 times with no payout

[thin saddle]

I didn't even realize I died

[clever seal]

i will never forgive myself

[clever seal]

oh fuck i forgot i have polylute
welp ggez

[thin saddle]

wait holy shit do the flying rocks in meadows trigger desperado'

bandit gotta be one of my least played survivors I don't know

if so that'd be so funny

[sonic tangle]

im 90% sure yes

desperado works on anything woth a healthbar

[harsh trout]

i assume it does bc you can trigger on kill items off of them

[gleaming flint]

Wich one to unlock everything? (except acrid and mando)

[sonic tangle]

lights out as well

[clever seal]

i am definitely killing myself

[sonic tangle]

ive used lights out on sulfur pools to great effect

[blissful torrent]

not entirely sure tbh because you can trigger on kill items from the geodes in the bazaar but they don't give a desperado stack

[clever seal]

rahh fuck it im gonna turn on sac swarm and command

mama need her mass extinction

[flint vortex]

real

[robust plume]

That one fucking dome screen in the US I forgot the name

[flint vortex]

the sphere in las vegas?

[echo idol]

i fear swing does not win this

[robust plume]

You'll be okay because acrid is the bestest boy

[blissful torrent]

did swing win it

[thin saddle]

he hasn't messaged us in 5 minutes I'm sure he's off to somewhere up there..

[thin saddle]

Acrid:

[flint vortex]

yeah up in heaven 💔

[thin saddle]

rip

[echo idol]

For sure

[golden linden]

frelic being so nasty

[flint vortex]

i want to risk the rain, but my friend is currently shooting w/ his uncle

[golden linden]

my favorite will be scrapped red

[echo idol]

funny how things work out cause if i didnt get vands and grabbed atg instead of star stage 4 i could have some worms rn

[errant marsh]

Procrid

[flint vortex]

acropolis

[wispy flume]

I could go for some coffee rn

[potent marten]

https://tenor.com/view/shara-ishvalda-video-game-gif-14975836

[echo idol]

chud

[gleaming flint]

WHAT CHARACTER SHOULD I UNLOCK EVERYTHING ON

[flint vortex]

lowkey i need a tank thats just the head of a tank

this needs to be real

[earnest canyon]

freakbob

[gleaming flint]

WHO?

[willow cobalt]

free him till it's backwards

[hollow hinge]

A friend of mine managed to get 4 quintillion...

[potent marten]

Shara ishvalda

[sage python]

commando

[gleaming flint]

already unlocked

[golden linden]

I wonder what is the easiest way to get points

[sage python]

mul-t

[golden linden]

maybe like, getting items

[gleaming flint]

by playing

[earnest canyon]

probably money right ?

[golden linden]

[golden linden]

money caps

[echo idol]

for hc im hoping we get some kind of alternate moon that has a significantly harder boss

[flint vortex]

bro wants saturn 😭

[echo idol]

you can go to prime meridian instead of moon but fs kinda just acts like a different boss of similar difficulty

i want a harder boss

[flint vortex]

bro tryna go to io 😭

[blissful torrent]

umbral mithrix mod is an option if you want a harder final boss

[golden linden]

also risky mithrix

[flint vortex]

just download the deltarune hardmode mod on ror2

[echo idol]

im aware umbral exists but i think the video game would be better without needing mods

[gleaming flint]

WHAT CHARACTER SHOULD I UNLOCK EVERYTHING ON (Squared)

[blissful torrent]

yes agreed, but if you're just looking for a harder final boss in the interim that gives you something

[blissful torrent]

fox said mul-t

[flint vortex]

mmmm i think railgunner

[gleaming flint]

mult-t then railgunner

[sage python]

mul-t has cool alts

good luck !!!

have fun

[blissful torrent]

true i love mul-t's kit

wish the final primary was a little stronger tho

[errant marsh]

Mul T is a pretty chill simple character to play

[sage python]

yeah same

[frigid sleet]

i wish i liked mult

[echo idol]

activities

[frigid sleet]

insert the high cortisol image

[molten hound]

what is up my SLIMES

[frigid sleet]

what does wwftf stand for

[molten hound]

warlock who fortells the future

[frigid sleet]

i seen

[molten hound]

seen what

[frigid sleet]

is there a good version of you

[molten hound]

i searched "good" to see and uhm

[blissful torrent]

what what fuck the fuck

[molten hound]

questionable names.

[native falcon]

I agree ppl should play the original ratchet and clank

[molten hound]

i didnt search, sorry i did the @ thing

[frigid sleet]

they should give all of them a chance

my personal favourite is crack in time

its also my favourite game of all time

[molten hound]

chat

should i add "lunar" or smth to my name next time i beat mithrix perhapenchance

[frigid sleet]

yea

and when you beat false son add gilded or reborn

[molten hound]

i see

[earnest canyon]

maybe yours

brokie

[molten hound]

evil seperating of conversation message.

not typing anymore are you

[molten hound]

hardy har har

[earnest canyon]

monster energy

[molten hound]

god i hate monster

its like if you got sparkling water, shook it to take all the fizz out, re-carbonated it, then added a shit load of sugar, and shook it a little more.

efauihfwk

[blissful torrent]

perfected maybe because he made the perfected elites

[earnest canyon]

i turned you green in my head

like moster enegy

[molten hound]

well thats an aspect i think i should save that one for if i get the actual aspect

[molten hound]

im so fucking green

[earnest canyon]

noted 💔

[sage python]

knob

wait no

[molten hound]

note feature used for its most righteous

[sage python]

different spelling right

[sage python]

i always forget

[earnest canyon]

dont mind the german its like that now and i cant turn it back

[molten hound]

wait wahaujncegv

[earnest canyon]

you dont wanna see the future kiddo...

[molten hound]

???

who is bro talking to

[golden linden]

I can only see the past

[earnest canyon]

who is bro talking to

[sage python]

new bio idea

[gleaming flint]

how do i put on those time stamps?

[golden linden]

time stamps?

[earnest canyon]

i once saw "im on all lists. its called networking 💰"

[flint vortex]

bro im so thirsty but i have water milk and arizona iced tea 😭

[golden linden]

water
milk

[earnest canyon]

you can milk water ???

[flint vortex]

implied comma btw

[golden linden]

implied comma

[gleaming flint]

uhhhh those things that people put on their bios, like,
"My ---- is ---- for you"

that show hours uhhhhhhhhh

[golden linden]

,,,,,, i have some to spare

[golden linden]

ah

[molten hound]

i have that

useful thing

[gleaming flint]

HOW DO YOU USE THOSE

[golden linden]

NO IM NOT

[molten hound]

has omega fallen from grace?
2 imbed fails in a row?

[gleaming flint]

IM NOT TOO

[spare kettle]

time for a quick slimeaudit

[molten hound]

NO

[gleaming flint]

Please add more meal items

[livid idol]

https://sesh.fyi/timestamp/

here ya go omega

[sage python]

boom

[golden linden]

thank you kindly

[golden linden]

anyways use this mealclover

[livid idol]

wdym 10 years 😭

[sage python]

im from the future 👻

[gleaming flint]

Uh <t:1778338800:t>

ok cool

[errant marsh]

Im from the future too

The next president of the united states is commando ror2

[molten hound]

HES LYING

ITS THE MEAT HUMONCULI IN THE PRESIDENTIAL BUNKER

DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU

[golden linden]

YEAH
IT'LL ACTUALLY BE MINER BABY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spare kettle]

uh oh, 2 slimeposts 4 hours apart

[molten hound]

holy SHITTTT

[spare kettle]

that exceeds the slimelimit

[molten hound]

dont send me back

im a good warlock

[errant marsh]

What about gup posts

[gleaming flint]

What about meal item limits

[sage python]

you are so gonna get slimed 💔

[molten hound]

WAIT I HAVE PROOF OF MY INNOCENCE

[gleaming flint]

What about mealposting

ADD MORE MEAL ITEMS PLEEEASE

[flint vortex]

guys im quail maxxing

[molten hound]

eaugauehg

[spare kettle]

for real, one per day, i dont like people shittin up my precious ror2 chat with their ROUTINES

[molten hound]

NO ANTI SLIME RULE

[golden linden]

suncles is hc adding more wandering chef recipes

[gleaming flint]

Im seared steak maxxing

[golden linden]

not meal items, just regular recipes

[spare kettle]

not that im aware of

[gleaming flint]

What about shittin up precious ror2 chat with their meal items

[golden linden]

hmmmmm

[spare kettle]

not that ive done the dlc3 route in months

but im pretty sure its untouched

[molten hound]

suncles i have to ask
where did the 16 other uncles go?

[gleaming flint]

btw theres a mod that lets you add new custom recipes

[errant marsh]

There should be a new crafting mechanic next dlc that lets us combine drone parts and queens gland to make BG a giant death robot

[molten hound]

seems a bit op

[sage python]

itll be annoying if they dont add new recipes because its already cross dlc

[gleaming flint]

it is op if you make op recipes

[spare kettle]

older DLCs are considered feature complete and wont be expanded upon other than bug fixes

[molten hound]

"bison steak plus bungus for perf"

[molten hound]

fuck
no more voids

[gleaming flint]

So, no meal items??

[molten hound]

#woe'ingituprn

[sage python]

what about crafting recipes that involve sotv and sots items

[spare kettle]

"its not impossible, but no plans!!" = no

[gleaming flint]

WHY CREATE A NEW ITEM CATEGORY WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL JUST TO NOT ADD MORE ITEMS

[golden linden]

one of many cross dlc funny recipes

[gleaming flint]

So it'll be our job to add more meal items?

Thats just ass.

[molten hound]

also can we talk about how utterly SHIT sonorous stacks

1% more vruh

[gleaming flint]

no we'll talk abt meal items

[molten hound]

actually

theres not much to talk about that

[golden linden]

1% increase from starting 5%

[sage python]

idc about new meal items but we should at least get recipes

[molten hound]

not meal items

[golden linden]

it's a 20% increase in effectiveness

[errant marsh]

Get 6 sonorous to have basically 2 sonorous

[gleaming flint]

No. You CARE ABOUT MEAL ITEMS.

[errant marsh]

Or 1 clover

[golden linden]

from 1 in 20 to 3 in 50

it's a pretty decent increase

[errant marsh]

Being 1/5th as good as the first stack isn't stacking well

Especially since it's actually worse since sonorous has the guaranteed items vs bosses

[golden linden]

when we are talking on the effect it gives, hell yeah it is

[errant marsh]

Depends on how long the run is

[molten hound]

i have a question

[golden linden]

the questioner

[potent marten]

nope

[molten hound]

would it be possible to get 3 items at once?
with 1 from sac
1 from sonor
and 1 from an aspect?

hrm

[golden linden]

and a lunar coin

can the collective elites drop their aspect?

[gleaming flint]

"Yeah we'll let DLC content rot after we have released it lolllll"
I DOUBT any hopoo dev would say that

[molten hound]

and perhaps!!!!! MULTI UMBRA ITEMS!!1!!

[errant marsh]

Who knows

[golden linden]

they did tho

[gleaming flint]

Whatever

[molten hound]

an of one mine umbra multi with sac on and sonorous in the inventory

[golden linden]

lol

[gleaming flint]

we need more recipes and meal items

[potent marten]

i hope no more dlcs come out after hc

[molten hound]

"i dont want more content"

[golden linden]

me too

[errant marsh]

False son and seeker never getting nerfed

[robust plume]

Simulacrum:

[molten hound]

WE NEED SIMULACRUM LOVE

[gleaming flint]

Devs take "to love is to let go" to the peak

[errant marsh]

If they ever release a survivor stronger than seeker and false son I will be surprised

[molten hound]

drifter

[errant marsh]

Not even close lol

[molten hound]

sometimes perhaps

[potent marten]

wrong

[molten hound]

i might be glazing

[robust plume]

The next survivor release will be Robomando and his gimmick will be that all four of his skills skip you straight to the credits

[molten hound]

i dont care triple glazed apple fritters

[errant marsh]

Drifter may be the most glazed survivor of all time

[robust plume]

I wish I was drifter damn

[molten hound]

would you deny a quadrouple glazed apple fritter

[robust plume]

Delicious apple fritters

[potent marten]

minor spelling mistake

[molten hound]

nermal....

[robust plume]

I never once claimed to be normal

[sage python]

recipes are a really easy thing to add, and if they dont do it on the basis of the feature already being finished itll suck

[errant marsh]

I mean ig drifter was "technically" the best character when she could sit in the Bazar for an hour and blitz the run

[molten hound]

^

[gleaming flint]

Exactly

[sage python]

it reads as a refusal to make content fit homogenously in the game

[robust plume]

There should be a recipe mixing two 57 leaf clovers together to create the 67 leaf clover

[gleaming flint]

it makes it seem too separate from the main game

[gleaming flint]

no shut the fuck up please (gently)

[robust plume]

It'll be great I promise

[molten hound]

wouldnt it be the 114 leaf clover?

[sage python]

if you can tell what order the dlc release by interacting with the content thats not great

[gleaming flint]

so a 10 leaf clover

[errant marsh]

I also think dlc survivors deserve to get new skins

[molten hound]

SIMULACRUM SKINS

[potent marten]

This is like one of the only things I agree with

[sage python]

id be fine with dlc survivors not getting other skins if it meant they at least got their own

[molten hound]

GET VOID THEMED SKINS FOR GETTING TO WAVE 50 SIMULACRUM

[potent marten]

Not simulacrum skins tho

[molten hound]

EXTRA EXTRA 20% OFF

[gleaming flint]

sotv fits so well with the main game but it doesnt blend with sots or ac that well

[sage python]

but i also think they shouldve gotten skins still

[vapid tapir]

hopefully the new dlc doesnt fall into the same issue with AC by being too invasive or sots where you just dont interact with the dlc besides a shrine on a stage

[potent marten]

Sotv doesn’t blend with sotv

[molten hound]

HE MEANT SOTS

[potent marten]

Too late

[molten hound]

or her

or they

damn you 5 second interval

[gleaming flint]

WHO DECIDED TO NAME SOTS SOTS

[robust plume]

Why is there no skin for killing voidling

[potent marten]

Gearbox

[gleaming flint]

WHY IS IT SO SIMILAR TO SOTV

[sage python]

aurelionite fragment favouring sots items is just plain weird and decreases run variety

[livid idol]

AC and HC

[molten hound]

call em seekers and survivors

[errant marsh]

True but it means I get sale star more so

[potent marten]

I was hyped for ac when it got announced
I don’t give 2 fucks about hc

[gleaming flint]

Sotv > Sots
Ac > Hc

[vapid tapir]

dlc needs new aoe items

[gleaming flint]

yeahhh hc feels kinda dead

[molten hound]

dlc needs fire items

[errant marsh]

Im glad I believed in AC instead of being a DOOMER

[gleaming flint]

NEEDS MEAL ITEMS

[molten hound]

not enough fire items

[errant marsh]

HC will be the best dlc ever 🙏

[molten hound]

ya

[robust plume]

If we don't get a red plane dlc before the end of this game's update cycle i will end my life

[molten hound]

HOPEFUL

[vapid tapir]

AC is amazing but its too invasive

[sage python]

i just want new content to feel at home in the game and for there not to be arbitrary rules about items based on what content update they came from rather than anything gameplay related

[gleaming flint]

they need to make some AMAZING marketing to give real hype to hc

[sage python]

why are sots items favoured in fragments and why wouldnt hc items be usable in crafting

[errant marsh]

The only thing I don't like about AC is distributors

[robust plume]

Could you elaborate?

[echo idol]

hc does have hype lol

[gleaming flint]

because after dlcs are released... we let them to aside to rot!
NO new content featuring old dlc content

[echo idol]

literally every single place you look related to ror2 people are hyped for it

10 discordians not being hyped for it does not mean there is no hype

[errant marsh]

And shart kinda sucks but yk

[sage python]

ac i mostly like, my main qualms are with item execution and spawnpools but i think its solid

[potent marten]

Who said there wasn’t hype at all

[vapid tapir]

AC enemies are everywhere and have at times been way more present than base game enemies

[robust plume]

Yeah I feel like we shouldn't be so focused on getting more dlcs because this game is already full of content as it is, we should be refining what's already there.

Like SIMULACRUM

[echo idol]

something something hc needs good marketing to give it real hype

[robust plume]

You're true

[echo idol]

people are still hyped abt it i promise idk what real hype means

[sage python]

a lot of stuff feels really needlessly compartmentalised

[robust plume]

We agree on that

[gleaming flint]

i hate it when i have to make a divergent path (not alt enviroment path)

just to enjoy a specific dlc's content

i have to find that AC portal to use recipes

[sage python]

at least those have reason

[errant marsh]

#buffprisonmatrix

[gleaming flint]

yeah but i still hate them

[sage python]

fragments and presumably now crafting just giga suck

[echo idol]

i still think crafting isnt as 'out of the way' as some people make it sound

[robust plume]

An issue I do have is that the only dlc whose gimmick feels like it was seamlessly integrated into main game instead of being a required diversion from the regular gameplay loop has been the void dlc

[echo idol]

if youre on stage 3 and you want to guarantee it then yeah its pretty outta the way cause then you gotta go to conduit canyon

but from stage 4 its a 50/50 shot + one boss to do crafting

thats not super out of the way for something as good as crafting

[sage python]

i think crafting is fine but i will very much dislike it if they just ditch it going forwards

[echo idol]

well heres to hoping the content creators have voiced their concerns

[potent marten]

speaking of stage 4 sundered grove is terrible

[echo idol]

and whoever else theyve asked

[errant marsh]

Yeah crafting is something that 100% should gain new recipes

[sage python]

itd be like if large category chests couldnt drop SOTS and AC items just because SOTV added them

[gleaming flint]

They wont...
Y'know why??
WE LEAVE OLD DLCS TO ROT!

[echo idol]

'were not gonna touch hopoo games stuff' mr gearbox please list me one person that enjoys risk of rain 2 early game or gilded coast

[sage python]

next dlc adds a drone that cant be combined, cant be scrapped and doesnt show up in multishops

[errant marsh]

Updating crafting and adding new dlc survivor skins just isn't anything I see downsides in other than taking the time to add them

[gleaming flint]

Its just infuriating to hear that there wont be new meal items

[echo idol]

please i beg of thee

[gleaming flint]

frrrr

[echo idol]

a friend dropped risk of rain 2 cause he couldnt stand how unbearably slow the early game is

[gleaming flint]

They're too scared that they'll mess hopoo stuff and people will hate on them

Gearbox sounds too scared to mess up like they did on SOTS

[echo idol]

they arent scared they just dont wanna bother lol

[errant marsh]

Old survivors and items getting powercrept slowly over time

[gleaming flint]

so theyre just kind of lazy?

[livid idol]

if they were scared they wouldn't have messed with drones or barrier decay with ac

[echo idol]

i dont rly think item powercreep is nearly as bad as people make it out to be either lol

[livid idol]

they mess with things if and only if they apply to what they're working on rn-

[errant marsh]

Its not as drastic as say survivor powercreep is getting but its definitely there

[echo idol]

some of the best items are still just basegame and sometimes i disable dlcs and it feels easier because those ultra busted items are still there in the basegame and now theyre more common

[livid idol]

barrier drone is probably why barrier gain was changed

[echo idol]

ah yes more gasolines yup thanks

[shell thistle]

for like, 5 minutes. and it's not even that way on anything other than like drizzle 😭

[gleaming flint]

Do you think at all?

[sage python]

i think means of obtaining items is the larger powercrept aspect of the game

[gleaming flint]

Stop messing with my images omfg

[echo idol]

its more akin to both stage 1 and 2 and no this applies to monsoon as well

[sage python]

item powercreep exists but not to a great extent

[golden linden]

this cat is so portuguese

[shell thistle]

ror2 has the same level of slowness in the early game as any roguelike that scales like ror2 does. any game that scales over time starts out boring

[echo idol]

i never find myself waiting for money in tboi

[gleaming flint]

what

[echo idol]

i have to actively wait for enemies to spawn in ror2 lol

hold on wheres that one video

[gleaming flint]

dude im not a cat im a cloverguy (meal variant)

[echo idol]

👁️

[errant marsh]

Shoutout when the director saves credits by choosing not to spawn anything for like 30 seconds

[echo idol]

i appreciate your input but ror2 having dogshit early game is not a hot take

[uneven bloom]

literally 30 seconds of no enemies spawning im crying

[gleaming flint]

yep
nor dead cells...

[echo idol]

"horde shooter" where at bro

[shell thistle]

im not disagreeing to be honest

[echo idol]

where the hoard at

[shell thistle]

im just saying to drop the game bc of it is insane

[errant marsh]

Make enemies spawn more often early game yeah

[sage python]

no its not its really boring for like 15 minutes at the start of every run

[echo idol]

i mean its kinda hard to disagree with

[shell thistle]

enemies should spawn more often in general tbh, make the late game true horde hell

[echo idol]

if youre a new player whose dying a lot and having to sit through the slog of the 15 minute early game

it kinda draws you away

[gleaming flint]

people drop the game for many reasons
it is totally valid to not liking to wait around 25 minutes just to have fun in a game

[vapid dagger]

idk i usually find waiting around to just be suboptimal anyway

im gonna hit the tele if i start to get bored

[echo idol]

and its not like you have some kind of super fun movement options in early game lol

[shell thistle]

has someone made a mod to increase enemy spawns at the beginning before (I'm not using this as a counterpoint to the argument im js curious for my own sake)

[vapid dagger]

its called swarms

[gleaming flint]

Maybe make enemies even stronger in the later game, make them spawn way more in the early game .

[echo idol]

you spend stage 1 with barely any spawns in the 'horde shooter' and traversing from side to side in the map is a minute straight of holding w and clicking your mobility skill

[gleaming flint]

but in the late game you just evaporate them.
nvm you'd do it anyways

[echo idol]

ive been playing with swarms a lot recently and it does feel a lot better

[vapid dagger]

yeah thats the trade off

[echo idol]

honestly just makes the game feel better overall

[shell thistle]

2 copies of a lemurian every 3 minutes still isnt fun 😭

[echo idol]

it makes the already busted aoe items even more busted but to compensate they dont half the damage of enemies or anything

the early game still isnt good tho

but swarms does make it feel better

[vapid dagger]

thats definitely an exaggeration but i do know the early game is a bit slow
however i think thats fine bc it gives players a bit of time to get their bearings

[echo idol]

swarms be making the bosses feel better too

sheart too easy? two shearts!

[shell thistle]

I've been playing with swarms more often with prestige cs its fun

[vapid dagger]

ror2 isnt hard bc it immediately kicks your teeth in

its hard bc everything you do including sitting idle affects the way the run progresses

[echo idol]

new difficulty option that kickstarts the difficulty a good amount + generally faster scaling

[shell thistle]

imma be honest, i was disagreeing but like as i look at it i agree with the point

[flint vortex]

lowkey i need to learn how to lock in on doing stuff

i just switch between doing things

[shell thistle]

bc i havent done much outside of artifact runs for fun js cs i dont like sitting around waiting

as of late

[uneven bloom]

id agree with what ac is saying but like this is on monsson

[terse fossil]

WHAT

[uneven bloom]

if the fucking hard difficulty spawns no enemies for 30 seconds whats trhe point

[terse fossil]

HOW

[vapid dagger]

its also drones being a larger issue than the scaling itself

[shell thistle]

lmao yeah i find it funny she's not targeting him at all

[vapid dagger]

drones were "bad" for a reason

[echo idol]

and i much more prefer drones being good over bad

[shell thistle]

drones are fun cs captain is fun with drones

[uneven bloom]

right but the main issue were talking about is enemy spawning speed

[echo idol]

tho i dont think they need to take away all the aggro anymore

[vapid dagger]

drones were always good

[echo idol]

and that is a hot take

[uneven bloom]

even if aurelionite was targetting him it's literally just hold w and occasionally move away from the sword attack

[echo idol]

if half of the value from drones came from "but they draw aggro" then it wasnt a fun mechanic and well people voiced that over the years

[uneven bloom]

like, why is it so fucking slow why were there no enemies spawning for a solid 30 seconds

[vapid dagger]

i would disagree with that the notion that its not fun

[echo idol]

okay

[uneven bloom]

they can't even damage aurelionite

that is literally 30 seconds of nothing gameplay you cant defend it

[echo idol]

frankly gilded coast needs a whole ass rework and its a shame they didnt touch up on it turing sots but also the early game needs to be redone

[vapid dagger]

i think generally the issue is you guys want more instant gratification than this game is equipped to provide to you

[abstract dawn]

hello

how good is stun grenade on mul-t

[vital depot]

i think the horde shooter roguelike should have a bigger horde to shoot

[sage python]

good it stuns lots

[vapid dagger]

gilded coast is also in desperate need of a rework

[echo idol]

the game can absolutely get away with having more early game spawning lol

[vital depot]

Or a horde in general

[flint vortex]

no dont encourage more wisp spam 😭

[echo idol]

the horde shooter can have more than 3 enemy spawns every 30 seconds in the early game

[uneven bloom]

it's not "wanting instant grafitication" i don't want to spend 30 seconds waiting for enemies to spawn in

[vital depot]

it’s better than literally nothing

[sage python]

i think ror1 earlygame is fun

[flint vortex]

false false false false

[uneven bloom]

that is literally a full 30 seconds of nothing happening on the hardest difficulty

[echo idol]

guy who still struggles with wisps

[vapid dagger]

the early game is mostly scouting and map traversal to optimize the way that you approach the stage

[echo idol]

good thing you can still do scouting and map traversal with more enemy spawns

[sage python]

ok but i can scout the map twice before i can buy a chest

[vapid dagger]

you can bc youre good at the game

[uneven bloom]

even if aurelionite was attacking him it's still boring as fuck because not only is she invulnerable there's no fucking enemies to compleent it

[echo idol]

instead of scouting map traversal with 0 fight happening in between

[sage python]

you dont need to be good at the game to survive 0 enemies for 30 seconds

[vapid dagger]

i would also agree that gilded coast is in desperate need of a rework

idk i dont really find it takes that long for enemies to spawn usually

[sage python]

and this is monsoon anyway

[echo idol]

in that clip enemies still didnt spawn for another like 20 seconds btw LOL

[vital depot]

well good players shouldn’t have to be bored because they’re good and they know how to play and the game is that slow

[vapid dagger]

and also
thats gilded coast

[echo idol]

i just clip the last 30 seconds

yeah gilded coast does make the spawn issue more apparent a clip of the actual early game would be better

that being said getting a clip of that would not be hard at all lol

[vapid dagger]

im not bored either tho

[echo idol]

there would be 2 enemy spawns in those 30 seconds that i look at and evaporate immediately

and i can name 10 other people that are bored by the early game

[sage python]

i think hard difficulty should be somewhat challenging for the first 15 minutes

[echo idol]

alas opinions opinions but if majority are asking for an early game change i think its about time an early game change was warranted

[vapid dagger]

the difficulty of the game isnt in how hard it starts out

its in how harshly the difficulty climbs

[fresh idol]

i'm with AC on this one

[echo idol]

nobodys asking for the game to spawn 3 stone titans every 30 seconds in the early game theyre just asking for more spawns

[uneven bloom]

ok but its the hard difficulty it should be hard and atleast somewhat engaging for 30 seconds

[fresh idol]

just chill out, the game spawns more stuff at stage 3 forward

[echo idol]

horde shooter

wait 15 minutes for it to be a horde shooter tho

[fresh idol]

and i don't see any problem

[vital depot]

Well we dont have anyone doing anything to make that better so the game does get easier as it goes on, a harder beginning would at least demand more player engagement and give a better sense of a reward to ease into that

[sage python]

oh to be blessed with 4 beetles after waiting 20 seconds

[echo idol]

okay

also sucks that the early game spam enemies, aka beetles, dont do shit LOL

[languid crystal]

what is happening im seeing a lot of red

[fresh idol]

being good at scouting the stage is one of the other stuff you can do besides just shooting thigns

[echo idol]

maybe i wouldnt be so hard on the early game is the basic zombie like type of enemy did anything

[sage python]

i dont even pause when i tab out on stage 1

[echo idol]

they dont do shitt!!!

[vapid dagger]

the build up is the point
it really gives a sense of progression imo

[fresh idol]

the value of beetles are more about being walking mines when they are elites. can't get near a blazing one or an ice one

[languid crystal]

whats wrong w that its supposed to build up

[fresh idol]

there are wisps, lemurians and stone golems early game too

[languid crystal]

enemies outscale u eventually

[sage python]

barely

[vital depot]

The buildup starts with the player having nothing to do

[echo idol]

you can still have a sense of progression with scaling without having the slow ass enemy spawns the game currently ahs

[potent marten]

who should i play that isnt merc or huntress

[vital depot]

If you’re playing poorly or were dealt a very very bad hand for like 4 stages yes

[languid crystal]

i dont like you

[sage python]

the buildup should at least start off eith something to do

[languid crystal]

captain

[fresh idol]

the game is already balanced well enough as it is right now and giving a faster early game would severely unbalance what comes next because your stage 1 will start to be too fast

[languid crystal]

i have an idea of whats going on but it makes me see lots of red(such as nkuhuna and behemoths)

[echo idol]

good thing elite beetles dont spawn that often in the early game and elite values are better spent on literally any other enemy

further reinforcing how useless of an enemy beetles are

[vapid dagger]

maybe they changed something bc i rarely find a situation where the early game takes that long to complete and can regularly finish stage 1 in under 5 minutes while looting everything

[fresh idol]

the system in existence rn works well enough. i don't see a slow early game being a problem

[echo idol]

once more nobody is asking for the early game to be breakneck fast paced theyre just asking for it to be faster

[uneven bloom]

30 seconds with no enemies spawning

[sage python]

it takes me around 10 minutes to full loot stage 1

[uneven bloom]

literal 30 seconds of zero gameplay

[echo idol]

the way you word things makes it sound like you think were asking for the early game to spawn 10 lemurians every 5 seconds

[sage python]

and i kill enemies as they spawn

[uneven bloom]

think about it man

[vapid dagger]

maybe this is yet another reason to downpatch your game

[vital depot]

Do you regularly not do the halcyonite shrine or skip chance shrines on stage 1

[vapid dagger]

halcyon shrine is dumb and boring so no

[fresh idol]

i do ignore them

[vapid dagger]

and chance shrines are a not a great time investment anyway

[fresh idol]

i repeat myself

[echo idol]

and i repeat myself again and you repeat yourself again and ac repeats himself again and fox repeats himself again

morale of the story this isnt going anywhere

[fresh idol]

✅

[echo idol]

moral

[vital depot]

is it because there’s nothing to shoot by any chance

[sage python]

heres a cute otter

[sage python]

a plentitude of reasons lol

[echo idol]

[languid crystal]

fuck the otter

[vapid dagger]

no it just takes too long and i have places to be

[sage python]

DO NOT

[fresh idol]

it's bc it's just a second tp on the same stage and staying inside a circle 2 times isn't what i like

[languid crystal]

i think the balance w stages is fine

[echo idol]

current monsoon early game is what i expect the rainstorm early game to be

[languid crystal]

it doesnt have to be breaknecking difficult 30 secs in

[sage python]

no one said it needed to be

[potent marten]

i hate otters

[languid crystal]

seems like thats what ygs are advocating for

[vapid dagger]

i would also argue that its more of a problem with halcyon shrine itself being pretty much a guarantee on every first stage than the early game itself being too slow

[sage python]

i would like maybe one enemy on screen

[echo idol]

the big scary red difficulty who advertises itself as ahem " For hardcore players. Every bend introduces pain and horrors of the planet." i would expect horrifying bends and pains

[vapid dagger]

that shrine is terribly designed for the game it was put into

[echo idol]

i watched my friend actively get bored of the early game because he was sitting there not doing anything as he was waiting for enemies to spawn fo income

multiplayer scaling too and hes still boerd

[robust plume]

It's not even that bad especially in higher difficulties

[sage python]

halcyonite shrine sucksss

[languid crystal]

maybe its cuz you have a few dozen hrs in the game but throw monsoon at a newbie and theyd easily disagree w u

[fresh idol]

so you want that the director has some kind of second spawn system where it just spawns a lemurian when there is nothing going on?

[echo idol]

the friend in question was thrown into monsoon multiplayer scaling

[fresh idol]

one singular lemurian
or two

[echo idol]

they agreed with me so much they dropped the game

[languid crystal]

fake news

[echo idol]

then i repeated the process with another friend who wanted to get into the game and he too agrees that the early game sucks

tho he stuck around

[languid crystal]

as per usual, fake news by the false son players everyone

[vapid dagger]

i chalk this up to a difference in perspective

[echo idol]

ror2 politics

[sage python]

i vote for uhhhh commando

[vapid dagger]

we just arent going to agree
and that ror2 isnt really trying to be the game you expect it to be

[livid idol]

i vote for nemesis commando

[sage python]

i think ror1 managed what id like out of stage 1

[vapid dagger]

ror1 bores me in the mid game

[echo idol]

ror2 apparently isnt trying to be the game it advertises itself as lol

[vapid dagger]

and late game

[echo idol]

funny too cause the first person i got into the game was drawn in by the hype kind of gameplay risk of rain 2 shows itself off as

[fresh idol]

i think it's a pretty good looter shooter

i don't see the horde anywhere

[vapid dagger]

it does say "bullet hell"

[echo idol]

i also think its a good bullet hell horde shooter after 15 minutes

[fresh idol]

ig

[echo idol]

hordes of frenzied monsters! two beetle

ying and yang

[spare kettle]

taketwo 2k gearbox indie smash hit

[knotty canyon]

those are community submitted iirc

[flint vortex]

man i had a question a while back but i forgot what it was 😭

[echo idol]

anyways im glad that you enjoy the risky 2 early game but with how many people complain abt the early game its kind of hard to ignore

[knotty canyon]

not gbx - seventeenuncles in the chat

[fresh idol]

this is also one of these problems where just an experienced player has to what i notice. none of my friends who i suggested the game has ever complained about stage 1 being slow, they struggle with it

[echo idol]

even if you personally enjoy it

[fresh idol]

i didn't know that actually

[molten hound]

what is up my............my.................. yea...

[fresh idol]

makes sense now bc some games have some terrible tags

[languid crystal]

hello my slime

[fresh idol]

wassup my slimer

[errant marsh]

Looking like a good run

[vapid dagger]

none of my friends took my suggestion to play it so i wouldnt even know if they do or dont struggle tbh

[robust plume]

Why the fuck would you throw someone to the wolves like that

[molten hound]

hello AbreviatedCorner

[languid crystal]

tornado slam enjoyer

[vapid dagger]

hello evil warlock

[languid crystal]

good work.

[flint vortex]

why is rex so intentionally difficult to obtain

[echo idol]

the wolves in question only appeared after 15 minutes

[languid crystal]

hello voidtouch

[fresh idol]

TORNADO SLAM ENJOYER

[echo idol]

in the early game it was moreso throwing him to the small defenselss puppies

plus one bulldog at each tp

[languid crystal]

drizzle and turn off dlcs then force abyssal depths

[molten hound]

all my homies LOVE repossess

[languid crystal]

ur homies are stupid

[mild cloak]

hello

[flint vortex]

its still difficult

[languid crystal]

tornado slam is the best ability on drifter in both games

[robust plume]

Whoever called this a bullet hell has never seen a single frame of Touhou

[flint vortex]

why are we dissing kidnapping

[languid crystal]

who cares abt rerolling items or temp items. tornado slam!!

[molten hound]

i dont care about being the best
i care about having fun
having fun for me is slamming a child against the floor and repurposing their flesh for a bison steak.

[vapid dagger]

im gonna record some of my downpatched version of stage 1 on monsoon and see if that matches up with yalls experience

[errant marsh]

Well yeah it's really good

[mild cloak]

how do I make this about homura hime

wait know how

[echo idol]

i would adore it if you could point to sots claiming that ruined the early game but i still very vividly remember the early game being ass pre sots

[flint vortex]

or even deltarune for that matter

[willow cobalt]

literally 1984

[echo idol]

atleast sots causing it gives you something to point to instead of saying "fix early game"

[mild cloak]

here go

should all play homura hime

[molten hound]

seeing zero openings

[languid crystal]

use junk cube with tornado slam

[flint vortex]

we LOVE cube

[molten hound]

i use repossess junk cube and tinker

[robust plume]

I'm gonna be for real after I gave tornado slam a shot I took back the slander almost immediately. I like both skills about equally but damn if tornado slam isnt fun

[languid crystal]

thats unfortunate u void toucher cuz i see all the openings

[languid crystal]

i am all alt

[molten hound]

gulp

[languid crystal]

sometimesss i can use clean up tho

[mild cloak]

use repossess and junk cube because everything else is boring

[robust plume]

Junk cube is the best shit ever I just learned i could stand on it and hit it to move faster and ive never been able to drop it since

[languid crystal]

wrong

[mild cloak]

hate

[languid crystal]

the physics are so fun

[molten hound]

me when i reroll the bison steak printer into a critglass printer:

[robust plume]

Turns out, contrary to popular belief you actually ARE supposed to stand on it

[languid crystal]

me when i reroll the crit printer into bison

[molten hound]

me when i reroll the knurl into a gloop but i remember i can reroll twice and get a cherf:

[molten hound]

why would you ever reroll crit

[errant marsh]

You clearly aren't in the gambling mindset

[languid crystal]

i also learned abt this recently

[fresh idol]

i prefer the simplicity of "spam button gigadamage" instead of complicated physics

[languid crystal]

for +25hp

[mild cloak]

me when spawn a bunch of reds and greens because downpatched to pre-balance patch

[robust plume]

Brother i just place down three cubes and hit tornado slam when in a wave and that shit fixes itself

[languid crystal]

a smart drifter player

[fresh idol]

does Tornado Slam pinball agaisnt the 3 cubes?

[flint vortex]

i personally love throwing various amounts of cubes at bosses and also hitting them with enemies

[mild cloak]

drifter plinko

[gleaming flint]

Theres this mod to help the early game but is mostly dead

[robust plume]

Y'know weirdly enough I don't actually remember if it does but I could've sworn I tried at one point. What the fuck is it with my short term memory

[mild cloak]

wouldn't this just make the game harder after get past stage 1

[gleaming flint]

idon' tknow

[fresh idol]

i'm gonna try this shi

[robust plume]

Just don't take damage and you're good

[mild cloak]

can all agree to always throw halcyonites into the void

[mild cloak]

hate so much

[languid crystal]

this shit is so dead it will fuck up literally every other mod

[molten hound]

👀

[robust plume]

Yes they get the Jafar treatment

[gleaming flint]

lmao

[fresh idol]

there is also this

[languid crystal]

be weary bro ts hasnt been updated since pre sotv

[mild cloak]

what does this actually do

[fresh idol]

it's not deprecated so

[mild cloak]

do enemies just attack faster

[molten hound]

pop quiz
who is this guy? this creature? this fella?

[robust plume]

it will make your game defecated

[mild cloak]

do attack faster too

ohhh I see

[languid crystal]

thats good

[robust plume]

No

[flint vortex]

is seventeenuncles still here?

[robust plume]

How do you have that many

[molten hound]

slimepost twice in a row

find out

[mild cloak]

I don't think is watching right now

unless lurking

[flint vortex]

big brother is watching hopefully 🤞

[molten hound]

seventeen uncles are you there

[candid burrow]

I’m actually so goated

[mild cloak]

SeventeenUncles, Are lurking?

[spare kettle]

ya

i are

[mild cloak]

did not expect that

[molten hound]

this mountain goat got a pc set up
ASTONISHING

[robust plume]

You're treating this guy like people used to do the Charlie Charlie shit in middle school

[flint vortex]

are we planning to give dlc survivors skins from the DLCs?

[candid burrow]

Yartus
It’s how I play my steaming games

[mild cloak]

If you say name three times, will appear

[flint vortex]

like railgunner and viend have sots skins but theres no AC skins for any dlc survivors

[spare kettle]

we're not adding new skins to old DLCs no

[molten hound]

GBX - SeventeenUncles
can i have a voidtouched role pretty please with lemon and cheese and a cherry on top

[knotty canyon]

i'm not lurking

[flint vortex]

well dang

[molten hound]

get outa here sai

[robust plume]

In general every survivor should have a skin for every dlc even if they were added after imo

[knotty canyon]

no

[fresh idol]

scrap just dropped

[mild cloak]

will be reworking void fiend or adding new void items?

[molten hound]

ermmmm i totally was like not asking you slime 🤓

[fresh idol]

L

[dire sail]

How would you guys describe what style of shooter ROR2 is to someone who’s never seen the game?

[spare kettle]

#ror2-discussion message

[knotty canyon]

third person...?

[mild cloak]

is a third person shooter

[molten hound]

bah

[flint vortex]

what if my bit isnt cringe tho

[knotty canyon]

(it is)

[limber compass]

a

[potent marten]

everyone here is cringe

[mild cloak]

will always be cringe

[flint vortex]

yeah you right

[languid crystal]

how could you. viend new alts when….

[candid burrow]

To be cring is to be free

[molten hound]

sai go back to being grabbed by numerous hands

[robust plume]

If everyone's cringe nobody is

[mild cloak]

are cringe which means bits will also be cringe

[flint vortex]

so im assuming there will be no more skins for existing DLC survivors?

[vapid dagger]

i got it recorded bear with my horrendously slow internet

[flint vortex]

like at all

[knotty canyon]

[mild cloak]

are ALL cringe!

[limber compass]

Aaaaa

[spare kettle]

any info like that would come when we release the "content scope" of a dlc, usually

[molten hound]

cant call your neighbor corny when you are also on the cob

[mild cloak]

what is the CORNIEST ror2 survivor

[molten hound]

huntress

[spare kettle]

ie i cant give you exclusive marketing info here in this silly discord chat ||like i did in the hopoo days||

[mild cloak]

can be on the cob?

[limber compass]

I wonder if there's a Greater Wisp around here

[flint vortex]

cant call your neighbor when he is a lanky bobblehead looking dude with a doctor seuss looking house from a video game

[dire sail]

@mild cloak true, but in my head I feel as though it’s still distinct from other third person shooters I’ve played. Like I think the style of movement stands out to me.

[knotty canyon]

uhhh

[molten hound]

who the hell is your neighbor

[potent marten]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[knotty canyon]

movement doesn't really have a bearing on first/third person

[molten hound]

IMBED FAIL hardy har har

[mild cloak]

... still third person

[knotty canyon]

if you're looking through the eyes of the character it's first person, if you're looking through a camera focused on a singular character, it's third person

[robust plume]

Literally 1984

[sage python]

do you mean camera position

[molten hound]

HELLO IM YOUR NEIGHBOR

[mild cloak]

the movement doesn't affect how define a genre

[steep onyx]

nooo the voidling has officially lost it's reason to fight for eternity

[candid burrow]

What if………
There were vehicles in the game and super big maps….
Or is that just like, completely antithetical to the style of roguelikes idk

[molten hound]

kuhio has been typing for AGES golleeee

[mild cloak]

other than a few specific cases

[flint vortex]

goodbye ill see you later

[robust plume]

It definitely does I dunno what you're on

[molten hound]

twin ❤️‍🩹

[steep onyx]

voidling really needs it bruh

[candid burrow]

THIS PLACE IS NOT FOR YOU TO SEE, TAKE IT FROM ME

[mild cloak]

third person shooter is still a third person shooter if add celeste movement to it

[potent marten]

Ban everyone bro

[dire sail]

Funny because to me the style of guns and movement have more impact on how I think of a game

[fresh idol]

this mod made me have a 5 minute stage 1 with this amount of items

[knotty canyon]

that is a you issue

[molten hound]

that would be peak bro

[candid burrow]

Like is that basically just the opposite of ror2’s mentality

[molten hound]

what do you add to the conversation i wonder

[gleaming flint]

holy fuck thats too op

[mild cloak]

funny typing gimmick is actually messing up right now

[fresh idol]

i told you

[flint vortex]

you have a buff kappa with a loincloth as your pfp i dont want to hear you talking 😭

[mild cloak]

actually getting confused from this 💔

[fresh idol]

it was titanic plains

[potent marten]

Gelato bros are mid btw

[molten hound]

what typing gimmic?

[candid burrow]

Buge
What if there was a Buge survivor

[potent marten]

Not even a good cc unit

[molten hound]

acrid perhaps

[mild cloak]

gatekeeping

[candid burrow]

John Buge the survivor who does Buge things

[candid burrow]

Hungypilled

[flint vortex]

im doing it for the artist not for the unit

[mild cloak]

gluttony will consume

[molten hound]

yea but it looks better than a naked man with a loin cloth and a.....turtle thing head

[steep onyx]

are they ever going to do anything for old DLCs? not just skins

[mild cloak]

sent an invite 💔

[molten hound]

maaaannn who the hell is kyutie

[knotty canyon]

not likely

[steep onyx]

hmm

[mild cloak]

was the invite necessary for conversation

[steep onyx]

that's not ideal but I guess I got my hopes too high🥀

[molten hound]

its on commando so i dont feel emotion

[candid burrow]

Okay, dumb question…
Would y’all ever legitimately consider doing another collab like with dead cells or nah

[mild cloak]

Would ever legitimately consider doing a collab with arknights or nah

[molten hound]

risk of rain 2 in fortnite

[spare kettle]

yes we would consider it

we consider lots of things

[steep onyx]

I'm not really a fan of releasing dlc, release a singular patch note, and never to touch it ever again

[potent marten]

Why arknights out of all things

[mild cloak]

don't know, the first thing that thought about

[flint vortex]

consider making drifter even more busted 🔥

[spare kettle]

• buy it

[candid burrow]

Oh cool, that’s neat

[molten hound]

commando skin
company plant orphaned core backbling/bungus backbling
crowbar pickaxe

[robust plume]

Yeah but try this on for size: bullet hell where you can't move

[silent helm]

I made commando

[echo idol]

can you guys consider fixing false sons (survivor) plethora of bugs 🥺

[mild cloak]

but move the bullets instead

[molten hound]

osu or whatever

[flint vortex]

melee survivors are low cortisol unless you're below about 30% health

[fresh idol]

you're his dad? damn

[uneven sun]

ror2 🩷

[errant marsh]

Entering stage 4

[molten hound]

i helped with the creation of commando

[vapid dagger]

heres my early game

[silent helm]

No, like, I made him in tomadachi life

[steep onyx]

if you mean buying DLCs I have all of them
what I mean is that I would hope that DLCs, even the old one, get further updates to polish them after their initial release and a patch note

[candid burrow]

Petah….
Put Optimus prime in the game, petah…..

[robust plume]

Thats a rhythm game

[spare kettle]

i wonder if davinci considered updating the mona lisa i'm bored of the looking at the same painting meta

thats right seekers of the storm is ART

[candid burrow]

“The brush strokes are too OP… they need a nerf…..”

[steep onyx]

voidling fight sucks ass and everyone knows that

[silent helm]

Fr

[flint vortex]

yeah but like modern art, like that banana

[potent marten]

Is lotf art?

[knotty canyon]

....i'm logging out

[mild cloak]

lost the plot

[molten hound]

no music?

[candid burrow]

Wasn’t the point of that banana to intentionally enrage people who hated on modern art?
It’s working I think

[mild cloak]

suncles made talk about paintings 💔

[candid burrow]

Can confirm, seeker herself is pretty cool too

[molten hound]

what joy!

[unborn forum]

what is happening

[flint vortex]

im not enraged its just dumb ngl (especially the hypermodern "art")

[candid burrow]

Things and stuff

[unborn forum]

why are we talking sbout paintings

[spare kettle]

honestly i play seeker quite a lot i think she is very cool when i want a ezpz run4fun

[steep onyx]

no clue

[flint vortex]

seeker is fun yeah i bit wild but fun

[mild cloak]

suncles, from a scale of 1 to 10, how high would rate drifter

[molten hound]

suncles
will the new dlc affect lidl opening times?

[spare kettle]

i never play drfiter, they aint bad just not my thing

[vapid dagger]

nah i like to be able to hear wisps

[steep onyx]

anyway guess their plan is to leave sotv as it is, sad moment

[spare kettle]

operator is my dlc3 dude

he fucks

[potent marten]

Operator is the best survivor

[molten hound]

the people must know.

[robust plume]

Bro got ragebaited by a banana

[steep onyx]

operators so fun

[molten hound]

who?

[candid burrow]

And I love the tranquility mechanic, I love that kind of extra little “style” she and void fiend kinda have.
She has the Strat of “oh do you wanna get all your tranquility done super quick or do you wanna use it for damage”
And I love the bar mechanic for Viend

[spare kettle]

i never use meditate tho, i only use the BIG SLAP

[candid burrow]

drone.

[echo idol]

Seekers cool shes just batshit insane
Meanwhile false son is batshit insane 30% cause hes bugged + hes jank as fuck

[mild cloak]

will the new dlc affect the borderlands 5 release date

[flint vortex]

i think AC is the best dlc idk by how much, but keep up the level of effort for HC

[fresh idol]

10 minute stage 2 full loot

[molten hound]

hopefully

[echo idol]

My stage 2 full loots are usually 25 items

[fresh idol]

is that what y'all want

[vital depot]

“She has the Strat of ‘oh do you wanna get all your tranquility done super quick or do you wanna use it for damage’”

what does this mean

you can do both, especially with meditate

[fresh idol]

i got a vanilla stage 1 and aqueduct stage 2

[flint vortex]

im just gonna assume lotf stands for lord of the flies

[echo idol]

A faster early game consisting of less waiting and more going from place a to place b without waiting yeah lol

[echo idol]

Sure!

[candid burrow]

Yeah, but like…
Idk it’s just how I think about her ig
I forget that you can still use meditate after you have full tranquility sometimes
Plus it’s the mentality of “do I really wanna start this fight without the chance of coming back if it’s too difficult?”

[fresh idol]

vanilla has less loot credits compared to DLC stages and aqueduct has less loot compared to all stage 2

[fresh idol]

yeah so the game got insanely easier bc of the time

[echo idol]

And as a result they tend to be faster to loot

[fresh idol]

this is not the game i want

[potent marten]

It stands for laser of the father

And it’s very bad

[steep onyx]

ye the game is so much easier with all the DLCs

[candid burrow]

I haveth a question, for all……
Which character has your favorite Helmet Design?

[echo idol]

Cool and when i play with the game with the mod my main takeaway is that the early game is faster and the game remains similar difficulty

[fresh idol]

it still takes me regular time like 7 to 9 minutes to loot titanic plains and 15 minutes on the timer to loot aqueduct on vanilla

[echo idol]

Now that didnt do all that much now did it

[fresh idol]

the hit on difficulty scaling was huge

[vital depot]

that’s something that you really shouldn’t be forgetting about
Tranquility makes Meditate even stronger up until the Tranquility cap, you should always be using it asap

[candid burrow]

Oh yeah, not even because of the survivors, plenty of the items are goated, like the blunderbuss ahoy thing

[mild cloak]

so.... just binding of isaac?

[echo idol]

What

[steep onyx]

ye
so glad they have an option to turn DLCs off

[fresh idol]

you can't have both without reworking the current game

faster early game means easier game overall

[earnest canyon]

double saw
double saw

[echo idol]

you can thumbsup

[mild cloak]

go from point a to point b and maybe get items along the way

[candid burrow]

True
I spam it, not only for the heals, but for the aoe attack thing, idk, I’m just talking to talk. I think tranquility’s a cool mechanic

[fresh idol]

the early game will always be easier either choice you pick

[vital depot]

You dont just want max tranquility for the revive, you want it for having better skills

[potent marten]

Let’s be real who actually plays this game

[sage python]

you could just start off with some scaling

[fresh idol]

extra scaling?

[candid burrow]

Barack Obama I think

[echo idol]

And if the “entire game needs reworking” is your takeaway from people wanting the video game to not be slow than the video hame may be scuffed!

[fresh idol]

like in multiplayer

[flint vortex]

like in the intended way or just at all

[mild cloak]

have never seen any play but looks fun

[echo idol]

No start with a bit of scaling

which is something i did bring up and i think could suffice

[sage python]

i mean just make the start difficulty what it is by like the 5 minute mark

[potent marten]

Like at all

[robust plume]

You are so unbelievably based

[flint vortex]

oh me

[fresh idol]

yeah so like in multiplayer

[steep onyx]

heard my neighbor talking about risk of rain 2 but never played it looks fun though!

[sage python]

idk how mp works

[fresh idol]

it literally does that

[sage python]

lol

cool

[mild cloak]

can't believe have neighbors

[steep onyx]

maybe it's just my schizo who's to say

[candid burrow]

Woah hey I just got a weird lobby animation where operator fell over
Is that like a rare thing or something

[fresh idol]

it's not my takeaway. faster early game means easier game overall. you need to make more changes than just make enemies spawn faster to keep the same level of "balance"

[mild cloak]

bored of the bit now

can stop talking like this

question mark

[potent marten]

Yes u can

[robust plume]

This is a subtle nod to the fact that the operator is a dumb fuck

[potent marten]

Who’s forcing u to

[echo idol]

And from experience the game barely gets harder later on in the game with the mod

[flint vortex]

oh lord i hear the rain coming soon

[steep onyx]

never

[echo idol]

So again now did this experiment really do anything for the debate

[candid burrow]

Mithrix lowkey potential man.

[robust plume]

Perhaps there is a risk of rain in your area

[fresh idol]

yes, it proved me right

at least in my eyes

[candid burrow]

Talking about conquering planets but gets taken down by a 1911

[flint vortex]

its not even a risk of rain bro its just gonna be eclipse 8 irl 😭

[mild cloak]

need a third opinion

[echo idol]

57 im gonna cry “it proved me right in my opinion”

So did this do anything for the debate

[candid burrow]

A singular person with 2 pistols stopped the conqueror guy
That’s Flowkey Chill

[potent marten]

I wish I was in your area

[fresh idol]

i always leave the "in my opinion" because maybe you haven't been able to communicate what you want properly or maybe i didn't understood fulyl what you said

[robust plume]

Everyone's right in their own eyes mf it came free with the egotistical nature of man

[flint vortex]

ig bro

[steep onyx]

that person had all sorts of garbage glued to his body don't forget that

[flint vortex]

ok that was some quite close lightning

[fresh idol]

my main take on this is: faster early game needs more changes than just "enemies spawn faster" that i don't really want to change

[steep onyx]

false son reference

[flint vortex]

i think im at the prime meridian rn

[echo idol]

And my main takeaway is that not rly

The end now were all friends

[fresh idol]

elaborate

[potent marten]

Prime meridian music is so fire

[candid burrow]

One thing I hope for HC: a boss who’s actually built around the melee characters
The Swing fight flowkey kinda sucks to do with a melee character

[steep onyx]

look for the golden piller when you get hit, heard it's gonna mitigate the injury caused by lightnings

[candid burrow]

Honestly solus heart too

[flint vortex]

all of ror2 music is so fire*

[fresh idol]

like the game is now so fast that cradles without some form of healing is now an active time penalty because you can't get health as fast as money now

[echo idol]

Ive been playing with that same mod for quite some time now and my main takeaway is that making the early game faster doesnt screw over the rest of the game or whatever

[spare kettle]

there is deffo a sliding scale of fire tho

[fresh idol]

we got completely different experiences then

[echo idol]

so again did this do anything

[mild cloak]

a nothing but fists a cool mech suit managed kill mithrix