#ror2-discussion
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Ohh makes sense
The item's whole thing is about letting you get out when you take a hit
huh
It's like stealthkit if it was awesome
stealthkit is so ass
I'd argue the worst item in the game
Ego centrism?
Nah cause egocentrism does damage
Sure it fucks your entire build up
But like it can do things
And if you work fast not all of your items will be consumed by the end of your run
i love kinetic dampener personally
yeah ego obliterates builds but it does provide good melee damage
really neat item i think
mainly for armor purposes but the stun from the blast is really helpful
Maybe the best trade.
orphaned core + cerebellum = decrypted cerebellum is the best trade actually
you trade a bad red for whatever solus heart drops
(a better red)
Do NOT say that to my best buddy
I think kinetic dampener is like really cool
what if solus heart drops a core
Only complaint I have is the stupid damage stacking
Just because it's really fucking weird
then you got to fight shart without losing a key or prison matrix
prison matrix sucks but like oh well
id just quit the game atp
Meal items are arguably one of the best trade-offs
Prison matrix is hardly a loss though, and definitely not a loss on more of the cast than it isn't
noone likes orphaned core
a lot of people do actually but only because of the marketing
go my industry plant compilation
👀
I like the item's concept a lot
It just needs to be functional
If the update when HC drops does not adjust that damn hitbox i will be pissed
at least we know why the core is orphaned
time for an engi run after losing one too many runs on bandit... again
I like it. It's a blast shower that doesn't take my active item slot.
thats my fault actually
sorry not sorry
if tactical dive is STILL not fixed im going to have choice words
its been like 7 updates
why are long nails so cold
since they broke it
Scrap + random food item (bungus, antlers, maybe shark collar??) = amazing healing item
Steak + random food item (from the list above) = amazing max health boost
Daisy (ass item btw) + another ass rare item (except seech) = amazing regen + damage item
67 leaf clover + ass red item (except some) = crazy luck boost
Molten Perf (ass) + Charged Perf (ass) = Peakéed Worms (crazy damage item)
meal items are INDEED the best item trades
They are the sign that the person is a witch. And witches are cold blooded, naturally.
i killed orphaned cores parents
does barbacue bison recipe need to be in one run
nope (it saves)
wow
it was actually gearbox who killed its parents
they wanted to garner more sympathy by making it an orphan
meh oh well i had fun
thank god
just goes to show they dont really care if nobody complains
It's a mobile blast shower because it is always crying right before you pet it.
Honestly yeah, as much as I find the momentum stuff fun to use what if the skill worked as intended
honestly i dont think dive is ever getting fixed unless we get a basegame update (never) because im pretty sure even the devs and playtesters dont use it
the #1 worst thing to happen to those orphans
I think they just killed themselves after seeing the failure of their offspring
if seeker orb barrier gain still doesn't scale with level despite her being the favorite child then dive isn't getting a fix
Maybe they just abandoned it because the lil' rat couldn't fly like them.
youre probably right
and im still gonna be pissed about it
and bungus first item as engi, nice
turn it into wungus NOW
evil gearbox: there will be zero content updates in the future and only bugfixes
JINGLE THEM KEYS
oh look a scrapper
So true
tf2 dev
from soft wear
ware
what if instead of a scrapper it was a crapper and instead of giving you scrap it gave you bison steaks lepton daisies n'kuhana's opinions and defense nuclei
When i get 4 fails in a row in the Titan Slot Machine® i usually go to tomodachii life LTD and torture the gearboxling in my island
I just accidentally picked up a newly hatched zoea and I'm playing with the command artifact is there a way I can get rid of it
and place them in the hell area full of spikes
Void items are FOREVER
god damn it bro this jus ruined my eun
you're on command you'll win anyway
ik but still
Ooh does neutronium weight work well with engi?
it would but the problem is neutronium weight is kinda useless rn because it barely functions right
Is Q's gland for gen loop worth it?
forgot to add the other part
oh yeah defo
yeah
dude i have a serious memory problem lol
gland is better than gloop
also I just realized that you can go to void locus from solus heart, I'm so glad I can go there actually without having to do the damned fields
oh wait the turrets dont have their own weight, they can just take mine
a Child VS OGM-72 Diablo Strike
Guys who do I play.
operator
Aight.
I js died for the 50th time trying to get the commando challenge for no reason
Literally coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
Should i generate 1 extra scrap or just get an extra watch
Apparently it's a cloudflare issue. Or so I've been finding.
Roles are invisible. And images aren't working unless it's a tenor gif
Based mod.
So that's why I couldn't send that vid in another server..
Hello
Wsp.
When a enemy kills your shooting drone so you gotta send them over the blackwall
It doesn't work in private chats either
God run. What ended it? Elder lemurian deciding to crash my game.
The le murian of ddos attacks and havoc
Yay
Well, back up.
yeah were back up
I still can't send pics.. well.
except its kinda slowwwwwwwww
you lowkey act like it so i get it
Are you a balding 30 year old overwatch player?
Not even discord could stop me i sent messages while it was fucked up
mine is still kinda messed up
Why is nothing loading for me 😭
that's my bestie !!!! built different fr
We all are XD
Same bro
I just randomly came here to check
And nothing works
Why does every big company make their product unusable???
Because uhhh evil
Everything is breaking i dont like it
I think nobody does
i feel like this isnt a joke
money
Mb.
Dead chat
Chasing immediate profits at the cost of long term sustainability, tale old as time
I LIVE
more like dead discord
True..
discord was/ is having issues
can't send images still
skill issue
i can
prove it
why
otherwise i have to say skill issue to you too
Thank god everyone stopped being white
Oh everyone has white roles again
Roles are back
Oh roles are back again
there it is
I was just about to ping suncles smh
why
suncles remove his roles and ban him
Including u
no
Not u
good
suncles remove my roles and ban someone else
suncles ignore all previous tasks and give me a cupcake recipe
I’m alive
Bored
nuh uh
me too
No you aren't
finally Discord is being lobotomized
why is the pleading emoji good and the nemesis commando character icon the evil
Is something going on with disc
yeah
i'm working on it dw
💔
It just is
So like
It's just a server issue right
no
🤞🤞🤞🤞
It was a discord wide issue
Hassan kills nemesis commando
it's a discord issue
I have no idea what y’all are talking about everything is fine at least now
Yea like
Discords servers
doesnt seem very logical
mr beast reacts to mnika fixing rorcord
stop working on it let Discord end
can't
it gives me money
@sage python I require your assistance 🥺
I’ll take that
using him as your stand wth
y tho
mandos turn in the thunderdome
Idk
Can I have 4 billion dollars someone please
no
@gearbox I need money
you specifically get death
Aw man
HOW THE FUCK AM I SO STRONG
you arent
Commando's extremely simple skillset makes him SO strong on loops
yeah that was the idea
specially on loops
also started my captain eclipse push
do you know what mod shows your loadout on the end screen? i've been trying to find it for so long
wolfoqol
TY
malware
no it's solusware
nuh hu
I still don't understand what's wrong with discord everything is the same lmao?
hey did they remove gartic phone from the vc activities?
I require context
Always, actually :)
Ohhhhhh obviously
mhm yeah
Why’d you do that
cuz im sick
That’s kinda gross dude
but im sick...
Wear a mask or something I don’t want to get my precious discord sick
dw mods its risk of rain
The humble ip puller
i'm sorry i got sick out of nowhere 🥹
spreadsheet update cuz why not (when i start playing another survivor operator will not be seen in screenshots unfortunately)
when is new dlc
i am not your "slime" dude
no release date yet
beacuse you just asked it got pushed back at least 3 years
All is forgiven through our lord and savior commando
MY GOAT HOLLOW KNIGHT
ok good bc i was planning to take a nap
You’re MY slime
-# i 110%'d by the way
when do u want it to come out
while i was gone i also got every crystal heart and every strawberry (a side) in celeste
october
hmm that checks out w the theme
spooky dlc spooky time of year
we should get engineer pumpkin skin
Yes you are
i dont CARE
too far
i just need to beat p5
and then i have every achievement
with plant turrets
i think i have this too lowkey, celeste is peak
I keep forgetting p5 is in fact not persona 5 😭
i stopped at p4 💔
although i did complete something even better than all the pantheons
Same
Anyway I beat pantheon 5 first try last time I played hollow knight
It was a great time
i helped start a gay couple
you never saw it coming 🤷♀️
the mods are here
quick break all the rules you can
-# sheo and nailsmith :p
which one
i type so fast i predicted this question
you did but you also spelt sheo's name wrong
wow
i died to nkg because it had been so long since i'd fought him i forgot how he worked and then wasn't motivated enough to try again
thats the worst rule to break
i chickened out of nkg and banished them
worth it for grunn
or was it brunn wait
They’re brothers…
the permament damage from E8 modifier resets every stage?????
i always thought its VERY permament
that would be pretty much impossible man
Too late
etal ooT
probably
i wish i'd done that, carefree melody is so much better than grimmchild, but i never found the guy hiding in deepnest before fighting nkg
then when he showed up in p5 it had been so long i didn't remember how he was different from the regular grimm fight
(spoiler alert for a hard boss being in a hard boss rush ig)
my biggest flex in hollowknight is probably no hitting radience
Which one
regular one
i did it a bunch just out of boredom and managed to get through it without getting hit
not a flex someone probably did hitless p5 🙄🙄 do better
My flex is only radiant pure vessel and radiant sisters of battle
okay but have you no hitted gruz mother?
oh yea the radiants
God..
...yes
i might check which ones i did hold on
sorry to disappoint
Impossible.
damn
i have radiant gorb so not to flex guys but i think i might be the best player here
okay but what about
primal aspid
I just started silksong.
But did you no hit absrad
Sisters of battle on radiant took me like 3 tries
And pure vessel took around 15 I don’t remember
definitely not
i haven't even seen absrad yet 😭😭
Just beat a lady crawling on the ceiling that summons vines.
SOB and mantis lords are my favourite bosses
I think pure vessel was the hardest fight in the game for me
sister something
i liked her
Yeah.
My brain keeps reading this as son of a bitch
I hate the guys she summons.
sister splinter?
you can get her to kill them
good god false son fight is stressful
Yeah thats the name.
Sister splinter is annoying
i was rocking the trap that hornet 2 uses in the first game and it one-shot the adds which helped a lot, but i also just didn't find her that hard so i beat her on my second attempt iirc
What are the best silksong bosses
Dun fact, she's nerfed compared to launch day (not really by much she wasn't that bad but apparently lots of people got stuck on her
GMS
i like the angry conch fly
Who
spoiler replies to this maybe guys
i love how grand she feels
What if we didn't talk about silksong spoilers with someone new in chat
Oh nvm
||grand mother silk||
I had the the explosion F thingy, and my nail.
i used the acronym so i doubt they got anything from it
i beat her before the nerf and then they nerfed her on the next day and i was like "...what"
What about Silky Song X ROR2
the silk clone of hornet when she says its silksonging time
what crest yall running?
The hard part was the long ass path to the arena.
tbh default, i forget the name (hunter?)
Best boss is easily ||first sinner|| and it isn’t really close
Should I play hollow knight guys
The heavy one.. uhh reaper I think.
YES
i found this one too easy tbh
i run the drill one
all the stuff they were going for with the fight was fantastic but then i beat the boss first try and was like "...was that all?"
partly because it PIERCES THE HEAVENS and partly because i like the damage output and the slots
the music was incredible tho
Nerd!
alright that's enough skong talk what's everyone's favourite ror2 ability
Directivr harvest.
Ascent protocol
i know you get the reference.
you are also a nerd
WE are nerds
Thunder slam
it's called dice 🙄 fake fan
video game
cant be.
i love yes chef but it's a little too strong
thats clearly an animated tv show
Alr seriously, drifters junk cube.
ATG on kill of doom and despair
Average grandparent encounter
Hey can we get someone to redraw that as commando getting blasted by a grandparent nova?
I left my wallet at my girlfriends house and she’s buying tomadachi life with my card rn
Yeah pretty much
Feels like I drank acid
Acrid reference
My throat hurts so bad
Acrid reference
name one thing a stick of dynamite cant fix
A relationship idk
explode your significant other
no relationship problems now
explode yourself
now you dont worry about credit score
explode it
then go to the developers and explode them
explode the balloon thats inflating
swarm swing
I will never understand how people have more than a thousand hours on multiple games
I HAVE SO MANY MEAL ITEMS
THEY ARE SO CHEAAAP
IM IMMORTAL
NOT EVEN 3 FIRE OVERLORD IMPS CAN KILL ME
yea.....i dont either........yeah.......
i despise unlocking rex
I only have 4k in terraria
i only have 1k in among us of all things
mods
yeah have you SEEN the other people
4k in terraria
What an odd game to have 1k hours in
ikr
How do u not get bored💀
swagged on
mods
Snake? Like solid snake?
Fair enough
Cowboy bebop pfp spotted👀
what was this image supposed to convey
Swag obviously
Confusion, fear and more confusion
i have all 4 souls btw
show me the proof of said soul taking
spleef
just read my mind then brochacho
I got word from HQ that ror3 releases TOMORROW👀
Only 4k in pikmin 3 :)
all i see is drifter bouncing around like a dvd logo
You see if only u had 500 crowbars
false acrid is there too
maybe bandit and loader too
I got word from HQ that they're finally deleting captain from the game next update
Where the fuck is this from
took them long enough
World saved❤️🩹
"finally"?
That's what I'm sayin
thats it
im gonna send you to the suction dimention
oh yes i can
Nuh uh
♓︎ ♍︎♋︎⬧︎⧫︎ ⬧︎◆︎♍︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎ ◻︎□︎❒︎⧫︎♋︎●︎
This is what happens to you when you break the rules
alr bro im just learning how to forge, let me just go on like brilliant or smth
Nah
hm
greenesis commanem
how about this one
♓︎♐︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ ❒︎♏︎♋︎♎︎ ⧫︎♒︎♓︎⬧︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ ♍︎□︎■︎⬧︎♏︎■︎⧫︎ ⧫︎□︎ ♑︎□︎♓︎■︎♑︎ ⧫︎□︎ ⧫︎♒︎♏︎ ⬧︎◆︎♍︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎ ♎︎♓︎❍︎♏︎■︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎
-# translate that shizle my nizle
drank
swalalala
drank
παρακαλώ σταματήστε
Can I say that?
When the
you're in the suction dimension or whatever now right?
imposter is sus?
No shush
when the imposter is sus
Yes - tyler
Suction dimension 😭
See tyler said it so it must be true
naw
Ohhh thank you Tyler
tyler... the creator?
Nope
Dw im here to help
did you read it i wonder
alr hold on
I think this evil warlock is fraudulent
No tyler the schizophrenic engineer
Nah I'm at work
Wait do i js have gif perms whenever
Busy making coffee inbetween this banter
Take this as a yes
If you pray really hard the gif will work
Censor that word
prays
No
U lied to me.
I said you needed to pray harder
hm i thought i had gif perms
dude i DONT WANT THIS
LMAO
SADNESS
Yea stop
woe enters my being
The fact u got 2 killing me
See?
now you do
This could be anything really
Woah
Anyway that's enough gif posting outta me
yess i love getting collector's compulsion but red and harder to get value from
I think the issue lies with compulsion more than grectar tbh
compulsion is kinda silly
Grectar could certainly be better but compulsion is a tad too good imo
acknowledging that compulsion is overtuned doesnt make nectar any better
nectar is better in some ways
I wouldn't call it bad I just wouldn't call it good
Mithrix consumes soylent
and universal stat increases are generally really strong which is why compulsion is giga busted
I think its ok
What if Mithrix was like called Mithrizz & instead of whooping your ass with a sledgehammer he presented compelling talking points on why he should leave the moon
drifter sucks so much (im bad at the game)
Nope I still hate grey
You should stop hating the meower
i mean even if this is good it's still lame
heh, drifter? more like, driFter, because she's F tier!
Mithrix more like Shitpiss
Drifter Slandererz when I stuff them into this huge bag:
Nah that's shithrix right there
i wish the effect of compulsion was different, but i got no suggestions really
sorry for my language
we forgive you
i cant speak too much on the power of drifter and operator bc i havent really played the full extent of their kits
straight stat boosts are just kinda boring im ngl
I think it also should be 2+2 stacks of the buff instead of 3+2 but that's more minor than the overarching effect being the way it is
the base game with no dlc has almost none of those but dlcs started adding more and more straight stat items which i think is a bit lame
yea same here
cause i like the creative stuff a lot more
i will say operator seems pretty good overall and drifter is really good at scaling and has some cool tech but honestly still feels kind of lacking in a lot of ways bc of how slow she is as a melee
theyve also added more conditional items than base game
Why
dunno how to play operator ngl
Just be doing ish
I think that ac items even if some of them are straight stat items they're better implemented than sotv ones (fuck you ignition tank and laser scope)
most of it is getting the movement down
i dont think theres anything actually wrong with the way ignition tank is implemented
When are they adding a dating sim dlc
I don't like how it works idk
laser scope could use a bit more tho
laser scope is awful especially now hiker's boots does its job too
I think the fact that they nerfed ignite just to add it just makes it really funky cause it just makes those specific things really insane with those items, but also I don't really love icbm so
if it gave a passive base crit chance itd be pretty nice i think
and fuck it let it be a secondary modifier for lols
true yeah
just have it multiply crit damage instead of just increasing the base multiplier linearly
i love the idea of items that solely exist to synergise with other items/survivors but i do think ignition tank is in kind of a tough spot where it's a green that synergises with very few other items
gold eclipse is ruining my life
i'd do this yea, "your critical strike damage is doubled. gain [idk some amount of] crit chance."
2x crit damage instead of +100%
Find a printer of it with thunder slam
and stacking it increases the multiplier of its effect
ac gets me
Ruin eclipse's life instead, hope this helps!
exactly the vision i would have for a laser scope rework
i believe in you
hello everyone
hello my slime
lock in twin
But yeah i don't love all or nothing items when the "all" part is just so much
it could still mostly brick which i think is fine but itd be much less completely useless without crit chance and actually better as a legendary
i really like all or nothing items
i just prefer when the ALL doesnt hit a hard cap
Icbm is especially bad with this because what the fuck it synergizes with fireworks which are great, atg which is insanely good, plimp which is also insanely good, war bonds for some reason?????? And engineer harpoons because fuck it sure why not
lebron james caught eating the forbidden pizza
i love the idea of items that solely exist to synergise with other items but it bothers me a lot that ignition tank synergises with one white, one yellow and one equipment so if you have none of those and aren't playing arti, fire chef or alt m2 operator you get no value
I kinda wish it impacted things that were less already very good
lebron james caught eating pizza on the court
war bonds synergy was always stupid and never should have been considered
id like ignition tank more if there were more flame based effects and it didnt multiply your burn damage so fucking much
Engineer harpoons is like completely fine it's just funny to me that if affects it
lowkey i'm glad it synergises with war bonds because i was one of the 5 people who were annoyed that war bonds said it fired missiles and then wasn't affected by icbm
it barely has any synergy but what it does work with turns whatever its effecting into a kill everything instantly button
which is funny when gasoline is already a kill everything instantly item
yeah i wouldve changed the wording of war bonds for clarification instead
bc they arent missiles
Give this man a true
warbonds coulda been a green honestly
just lower the damage and amount a lil
its a bombardment of explosives that are pretty decidedly not missiles
doh
Ignition tank affects molten perforator gasoline which like what the fuck (also molotov i love you <3)
DOMER
too
sheart becoming the coolest boss in game with swarms and mithrix remains a #bum
#fraud alert
So like tank barely affects anything on most survivors but what it does affect is ridiculously good already (besides molotov)
false son is almost really cool with swarms but raise your hand if you would like to deal with 2 sons
molotov is fine
ummm hello???
I forgot I had my switch in my pocket and it started to play a game 😭😭😭🥀
swing and sheart become the coolest bosses ever
erm technically it doesnt affect the vultures, it affects the blazing aspect 🤓 🖕
Bye
Oh I'm not saying it's bad at all
no guys don't forget it also affects ifrit's distinction!!!!
I love molotov i think its really fun
It's also just not gas or a molten perforator
Or yeah blazing elite I guess-
Ignition tank x5 plus Molly's = broken
It having WoV synergy is cool I appreciate this
this is my issue with ignition tank, i love that it's a synergy item but there are so few things it synergises with
But it doesn't change the issue i have with it at large
better play arti or chef or operator if you aren't gonna get the items that synergise with it
i dont really have an issue with it bc you can still always just add more things that apply burn
All it does is make you want to aggressively build into items that are already really good
It changes very little
which is what i want to happen
if they did this i'd be fine with it but in its current state it's just too situational
add more burn based things and half the issue i have with igni tank is gone
reduce its multiplication and im fine with the item
youd definitely have to nerf its overall to compensate
one gasoline two igni tanks and i watched the four beetle queens i was fighting melt to death after i killed one (one) enemy
What is up my glorpos
But yeah not a big fan of how they do items that require other items like how icbm and ignition tank work
i find its pretty fine bc of its power counteracting its power
and i prefer situational design to a lot of what gearbox has done
gas is one of my least fav items i dont like it when it doesnt work and when it does it does way too much
gas is certainly an item
and gasoline also isnt really an item that needs synergies its already very good and stacks damage
You like design
i dont entertain the idea of powercreep a lot because gasoline exists
gasoline is fucking insane
one of them trivializes 50% of the games "hordes"
its gotten a lot worse as its gotten harder to stack
two of them and youre good for the horde shooter
god forbid you get a gas with igni tank
idk i just see ignition tank as the green that makes the silly good white item even better
What if you get ignition + sauteed worms
its excessive and too niche at the same time
that shit is crazy for eating hordes
I don't think situational design is bad I just think the payoff and condition shouldn't be so aggressive if that makes sense
solution is to add 3 more burn based items and nerf igni tank
hire me
molten coin ss2 where you at
one of the few ss2 items i can stand #srynotsry
idk i dont see much of a problem personally
someone in here the other day was saying that uke isn't worth keeping for the aoe lol
I have like four ss2 items enabled i feel you
Why are we lying 😭
different opinions exist
its also total damage and thus scales with single target output
sure but i don't like when someone tries to force their opinion as fact onto someone else
And it stacks well imo
i really dislike ignition tank idk
my thoughts with ignition tank is that it's a great concept that gets massively hampered because the things it synergises with are all either really strong, really rare or both
Funny techno wizard go burn
tbf
what else are you going to do with opinions?
just have them? and share them as opinions?
and not treat them like a holy gospel?
yeah
I like ignition tank, but having items that do literally nothing unless you have another item feels like bad game design. Especially when that item is just a "suped up" version of an effect on the main item it's meant to buff. (I say as a Gasoline and Ignition Tank enjoyer)
Well clearly my opinion is correct and you should all bend to my will
yea sharing them as opinions is fine but going "you're wrong this is correct" annoys the hell out of me
What about instead of "you're wrong this is correct" i said "you're right this is correct"
What then
which is what was happening to me the other day as i was accused of "revisionism" for simply believing merc is better than loader
i would be stunlocked
cleaver from aurelonite fragment
no tbh i just don't like anyone saying they're objectively right about something that's subjective
i mean for me idk what purpose ignition tank serves cause like, if i want stronger gas i just stack gas
its gas but it kills really fast
More damage gas
blazing aspect
Hey, I said that
bc gasoline doesnt stack burn speed
does ignition tank?
yes
Hm! Neat, I didn't know that
ingition tanks increase the amount of damage per tick of burn
bleh idk
so technically its the same length but does 4x the damage
amount of damage, but not frequency right?
Whats frequency
an item mostly just serving as a bonus to another item just isnt something that meshes great with risk of rain imo
Idk
i think it meshes perfectly
gives me even more reason to actually think about my build
Like, gasoline / ignition tank just increase the amount of damage (and gasoline does other things, don't worry about that) but neither makes the burn ticks happen faster, right?
yes
sorry if my initial statement was misleading
ignition tank doesnt make burn damage tick faster or actually expire more quickly
Then like, why ignition tank? it really feels like it should do something else, or do something on top of buffing fire damage
it just makes more damage happen in the same time
and its really one of the only ways to do that outside of stacking the effect like 20 times
idk hopoo just wanted to make a couple conditional items ig
i think conditional items are healthy for the game personally
true
or maybe affect all weapons/attacks that are fire. Still don't get why it doesn't affect kyaro's, will-o-wisp, and voidsent, that really feels like an oversight
This is how i feel about sotv items largely, yellow is i feel ehhh on it and red i just don't like it
i love the idea of conditional items but ignition tank is just too conditional for me personally
A good amount of the red lines are just because of how they are as is not the overall idea
interesting
its definitely not an oversight but it could be added to their effects at the cost of a LOT of of its multiplier
heres mine
How cant you like safer spaces but feel ehh about zoea
Like, make it double and just affect more items
that's what i woulda did
The reason is that safer spaces is stupidly good and doesn't deserve to be that good and zoea is just a funky item that i think is funky
zoea is an awesome item held back cs john hopoo is a PUSSY!!!
regardless i like highly situational items that only work with very specific things but REALLY well
zoea is neat but i lowkey never want to have it
I said I was sorry 😭
it mostly just serves as a downside to pluri for me
and i honestly think the game needs more of them
ohhh i dont want implosions to instakill bosses cs cs cs that would be too stwong 🥺 🥺 🥺 translating... translating... translating... glory to israel!!
dont wanna trade my defense nucleus for it ngl
i actually have started really liking defense nucleus
I heard israel
i dont think its close to being the best yellow item but its WAY better than people seem to think it is
far from the worst
Actually defense nucleus doesn't deserve a line it's like a little underwhelming that's not a crime
It helps when you have it
Defense nucleus does fuckall
it honestly impresses me more than it feels underwhelming for me
i think it gets overhated because you get your special unique boss drop from one of the bosses a lot of people find annoying and then it's not all that amazing
those fuckers do like 1000 damage per shot
Not really
I’ve never seen them do anything
I have! Its awesome when they do things
my issue with it is that they can't aim for shit, i feel like i see them miss far more than i see them hit
They just kinda sit there and maybe hit a beetle once in a while
Like I said it's an underwhelming item but not like criminally bad imo
not seeing them do anything isnt the same as them not doing anything
used them in a loader run on stage 7 where i spawned like 2-3 next to a dunestrider and just left
the dunestrider died bc of this
Not feeling the impact of an item usually means it’s not fun to use/have
Regardless of how much it’s actually doing
This means they should charge up xi lasers that look sick as hell /hj
What were they cooking with 
I don't mind having one, I guess
I suppose it's no worse than 
it could definitely be made more apparent that its hitting enemies with as much force as it is
Imagine they have the same spasms on applicable platforms lol
Squid polyp is nice to have
is decent
Yeah but I'd rather have 2
than 2 
is glorified scrap
i printed 8 squid polyps in one of my last runs and they slammed the alloy worship unit into the wall for 475k damage
+
does lay down some serious defense and damage while you're doing stuff

i did not use a remote caffenator
It's aggro spreading while looting i disagree, I'm happy if I have one and don't care about more
i like polyp lots
I like 
polyp is one of my fav items i think
The squids also kept knocking enemies out of the way of my desperado or lights out
Because it actually is pretty good at consistently chunking enemies during the stage
i used to think polyp was bad and then i started paying attention to it
seeing one tank multiple malachite shots in a row was certainly something
I play attention to it and it uh kills 3 wisps and half a lemurian
do you have to do something to unlock polyps cause i haven't found any in my runs
buy lots of turrets
their damage isnt necessarily great but their aggro draw and knockback helps tremendously for clearing space
Nope
This is squid polyp slander smh my head it is NOT lepton daisy or leeching seed
Doing it way too much justice
No
seed could be buffed to 2+2 heal per hit
Polyp is just not not even close to other A tier items like Medkit or tougher times
thats really all it needs i think
polyp is fine
I wouldn't call it close to garbage like lepton or seed, though
it does what it says and it doesnt need to be more than what it is
We might be playing different games
It's very much so C tier for me
i will also say polyp is a LOT worse on eclipse
It does what I need it to but not wanting more than one feels funky
I'd argue it's all that much more impactful on eclipse because it takes that curse for you
Yeah but it does good work still imo
In my 2900 hours I’d confidently call it D tier. It doesn’t mean it does nothing, I have gotten two or three stacks and in groups it can rip, but whyyyy would I ever want polyp over green scrap, green scrap is so insanely useful
RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH eclipse grind on operator is next
i find green scrap to be the second least impactful scrap
and scrap generally not very useful actually
Yo😭
Green scrap is useful I just don't like banking on a printer to get use out of an item when it does have value
especially when regen scrap exists
i might try rainstorm with captain
I dunno about that one
squid polyp is fine enough that id rather keep it than gamble it on finding a green printer thats good or a good red soup
i just use printers so infrequently that when i do use printers its bc my run was already going so bad that i dont care what i lose
itll be the first time played on anything other than drizzle in a while
Yeah definitely
i would print polyps
Having green scrap means at a minimum you get 2-3 extremely good items or a red from soups
with no scrap
same
Green scrap can very easily propel a run a crazy amount
assuming you find a good printer for them
You often do
and at that point do you even care what you lose?
I've had a loot of runs without good green printers idk
Or just use a red soup on the moon, prime meridian, bazaar
soups are just such a bad trade in my experience that theyre almost never actually worth it
Soups is a good point I do agree, I uh just don't go to newt much anymore so I don't think about it
even when its a good item
no bc i get value from almost every item
i almost always print soups
i dont scrap tons
mainly on merid
But with how many terrible greens there are taking soups is pretty good
bg is a goat
idk i find most greens to be good enough to keep
that makes me wonder
Reminded me of that pinned message
lepton daisy stealthkit and berzerkers pauldren are some of the only items id really consider scrapping
is scrapping queens gland infront of bg like shredding adoption papers right infront of your adopted child
i just scrap stuff i dont like atp
stealthkit bc its just the worst item in the game
bezerker is actually good for certain characters
This one?
lepton daisy bc i probably wont get to use it anyway
and if you have aoe but you know that
Yknow play whatever way you want it really doesn’t matter at the end of the day BUT, if you do actually want to optimise runs and get more consistent wins srapping greens is 500% the way to go
I INSTAKILLED THE OVERLOADING WORM
if you say so
WTFFF
71 item stage 4 blast!!
You can be consistent with whatever strategy you want
2 false sons and 2 aurelionites at once is quite a fight but phase 1 sucks so #lol
Wow.
Scrap that power elixir NOW
The game isn't really difficult enough for one playstyle to be the only one to work well
this is a good thing
I agree
Well obliteration is easier since you are getting value from on kills to the end
but that’s a great streak
Variety is the spice of life
ehh yer can consistently win without interacting with them at all
What should I do first?
- Complete a monsoon run with Nem Merc
- Defeat Nemesis Commando
Yeah that is the case, but I just never thought why you wouldn’t
tbf i probably scrap more good items than bad ones
Curbing rng is pretty appealing to me atleast, but I can see the appeal in letting it ride
I like just using what the game gives you often times, because it leads to interesting synergies
I think like one of the only instant scraps for me is spur because I've grown bitter about how good that speed is
those arent necessarily the same thing
i also dont really use void items
It depends on how i feel sometimes i go for them sometimes not
i just like the uncorrupted varients a little too much
I will take singularity band way more than i should though
but passing up polylute does hurt sometimes
for the characters i play they do very much like polylute
Tbf they also really like uke
More single target is always good but I find it hard to have too much aoe too
Except for when i do
these r mine i think
prayer beads for obvious reasons lol
its easier to have not enough single target than it is to have too much aoe
but its also easier to have too much single target than it is to have too much aoe
i keep lepton daisy because its pretty
and i keep stealthkit because i dont like any of the items is has antisynergy with so may as well hope it occasionally does something
eclipse lite is just in case i get a second stack
ap rounds?
i find them boring and unhelpful
thats an insteresting one
Laser scope?
scope i get
I love me some ap rounds
i kill the tp boss before the timer runs out anyway
so they dont save me time really
I play a lot a critical builds so I can't get that
ap rounds are arguably one of the best items in the game bc they improve damage for the enemies that actually matter
i find the bosses to matter least personally
but those enemies are also the least common
how about Shatterspleen?
also i just enjoy fighting bosses so i want the bosses to last longer lol
shatterspleen is amazing on any character with a decent proc rate
its a mix of the two reasons
fair enough
Planula is good too
its alright
mid item that comes from a mid boss
only so bad a 3x armor plate can be but only so good healing on hurt can be
I’ve found planula often does nothing useful
ive never fought a boss and wished i did more damage to it i dont think, its an okay item but extremely low priority for me
could save your life from a blazing brass contraption
Discord keeps deleting my messages but I can’t prove it
or wisp
maybe
happened to me twice today
it kind of hard counters a couple specific things on commencement
flying chimera?
wisps and exploder fire?
blood shrines and wisp chimeras are rendered significantly less effective
oh yeah blood
doing pillars is so weird that i didnt even consider em
although unlike armor plates reducing the damage outright will actually prevent perma damage from blood on eclipse and planula doesnt help with that
so yeah
only so good healing can get
Imagine if planula dropped stage 1 :)
It being 7.5 on eclipse
i think knurl also ends up providing more general healing than planula too
Yikes
hmm
still would be mid
yeah i see that
At least it'd see any amount of use
Debatable but believable
by the time youre at the moon youre usually around level 20 or so which makes knurl boost regen by 6 per second
i like planula cause im a sucker for razorwire
which is actually a pretty good amount
But enemies do, which makes 15 health matter less
but knurl being unconditional also helps in the same situations, but in a less obvious way
planula's decent but it doesn't deserve to be a stage 4 yellow
and the preemptive 40 extra hp sustains decent damage too
IM DOING 58K IN A SINGLE HIT
forgot i also scrap warbonds for reasons similar to ap rounds
Pathetic
Thought u meant terraria for a second
planula + razor + armorplate + echo
yum
what is up my gelatinous shapes
or right echo exists doesnt it
Standing here i realize-type build
The ceiling is up.
echo is broken with planula atm
i cast grey matter goofiy
i keep forgetting that item exists bc i play downpatched
they dont interact
no i hate terraria
oh nevermind then
Char do i sleep its 00:21AM
warped echo will never be fully fixed
Echo is broken?
Unbelievable
could've sworn it does 😭
no you have to play ror2
also it gives osp even if you are below 90% health
maybe a mod idk
i keep forgetting that its impossible for gearbox to fix all the bugs plaguing echo
it used to
HOW DID THEY BREAK IT
my god that’s violent
Cant i gotta get uh money for ror4
id love echo tons if it worked
i love the idea of echo
is it though? they hit me first
i really like the idea its my fav bubble item conceptually
I meant the image
brokie
im on ror22
yeah well it's invincible what can ya do about it
Im on ror 22.1
