#ror2-discussion

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livid idol
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% damage reduction, 100 armor for example is 50% damage reduction

gleaming flint
livid idol
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The item's whole thing is about letting you get out when you take a hit

gleaming flint
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huh

livid idol
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It's like stealthkit if it was awesome

gleaming flint
livid idol
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I'd argue the worst item in the game

gleaming flint
livid idol
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Nah cause egocentrism does damage

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Sure it fucks your entire build up

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But like it can do things

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And if you work fast not all of your items will be consumed by the end of your run

upper wing
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i love kinetic dampener personally

terse ferry
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yeah ego obliterates builds but it does provide good melee damage

upper wing
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really neat item i think

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mainly for armor purposes but the stun from the blast is really helpful

gleaming flint
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Maybe the best trade.

terse ferry
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orphaned core + cerebellum = decrypted cerebellum is the best trade actually

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you trade a bad red for whatever solus heart drops

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(a better red)

gleaming flint
livid idol
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I think kinetic dampener is like really cool

potent marten
livid idol
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Only complaint I have is the stupid damage stacking

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Just because it's really fucking weird

terse ferry
potent marten
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id just quit the game atp

gleaming flint
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Meal items are arguably one of the best trade-offs

livid idol
terse ferry
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true

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i kinda just wanna kill industry plant tbh

potent marten
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noone likes orphaned core

terse ferry
livid idol
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👀

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I like the item's concept a lot

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It just needs to be functional

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If the update when HC drops does not adjust that damn hitbox i will be pissed

golden karma
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at least we know why the core is orphaned

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time for an engi run after losing one too many runs on bandit... again

raw silo
potent marten
vapid dagger
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its been like 7 updates

terse ferry
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why are long nails so cold

vapid dagger
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since they broke it

gleaming flint
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Scrap + random food item (bungus, antlers, maybe shark collar??) = amazing healing item
Steak + random food item (from the list above) = amazing max health boost
Daisy (ass item btw) + another ass rare item (except seech) = amazing regen + damage item
67 leaf clover + ass red item (except some) = crazy luck boost
Molten Perf (ass) + Charged Perf (ass) = Peakéed Worms (crazy damage item)

meal items are INDEED the best item trades

raw silo
potent marten
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i killed orphaned cores parents

cedar coral
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does barbacue bison recipe need to be in one run

gleaming flint
upper wing
terse ferry
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it was actually gearbox who killed its parents
they wanted to garner more sympathy by making it an orphan

crude gull
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meh oh well i had fun

cedar coral
upper wing
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just goes to show they dont really care if nobody complains

potent marten
raw silo
livid idol
terse ferry
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honestly i dont think dive is ever getting fixed unless we get a basegame update (never) because im pretty sure even the devs and playtesters dont use it

vapid dagger
golden karma
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I think they just killed themselves after seeing the failure of their offspring

terse ferry
raw silo
vapid dagger
golden karma
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and bungus first item as engi, nice

rugged cipher
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turn it into wungus NOW

terse ferry
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evil gearbox: there will be zero content updates in the future and only bugfixes

vapid dagger
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JINGLE THEM KEYS

golden karma
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oh look a scrapper

livid idol
terse ferry
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what if instead of a scrapper it was a crapper and instead of giving you scrap it gave you bison steaks lepton daisies n'kuhana's opinions and defense nuclei

gleaming flint
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When i get 4 fails in a row in the Titan Slot Machine® i usually go to tomodachii life LTD and torture the gearboxling in my island

jaunty sky
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I just accidentally picked up a newly hatched zoea and I'm playing with the command artifact is there a way I can get rid of it

gleaming flint
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and place them in the hell area full of spikes

jaunty sky
terse ferry
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you're on command you'll win anyway

jaunty sky
golden karma
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Ooh does neutronium weight work well with engi?

terse ferry
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it would but the problem is neutronium weight is kinda useless rn because it barely functions right

gleaming flint
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Is Q's gland for gen loop worth it?

sage python
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worth what

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i mean yeah ?

gleaming flint
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forgot to add the other part

sage python
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oh yeah defo

golden karma
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yeah

gleaming flint
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dude i have a serious memory problem lol

terse ferry
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gland is better than gloop

golden karma
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also I just realized that you can go to void locus from solus heart, I'm so glad I can go there actually without having to do the damned fields

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oh wait the turrets dont have their own weight, they can just take mine

terse fossil
old python
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Guys who do I play.

terse fossil
old python
gleaming flint
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PREDATORY INSTINCTS FOR 2X GLASSES?

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THATS PEAK

jaunty sky
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I js died for the 50th time trying to get the commando challenge for no reason

robust plume
signal summit
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I think discord is down

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Theres no roles or images

knotty canyon
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good

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i hope discord dies

gleaming flint
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Should i generate 1 extra scrap or just get an extra watch

raw silo
signal summit
old python
old python
livid relic
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Hello

old python
gleaming flint
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When a enemy kills your shooting drone so you gotta send them over the blackwall

woven plover
errant mountain
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God run. What ended it? Elder lemurian deciding to crash my game.

gentle copper
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they had to ddos you to stop you

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thats a victory if ive ever seen one

gleaming flint
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The le murian of ddos attacks and havoc

errant mountain
old python
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Well, back up.

gleaming flint
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yeah were back up

old python
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I still can't send pics.. well.

gleaming flint
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except its kinda slowwwwwwwww

knotty canyon
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you lowkey act like it so i get it

old python
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Are you a balding 30 year old overwatch player?

livid idol
blissful torrent
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mine is still kinda messed up

quasi lance
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Why is nothing loading for me 😭

gentle copper
quasi lance
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Im trapped in discord purgatory

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Cant even access my images

woven plover
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We all are XD

novel wadi
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I just randomly came here to check

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And nothing works

quasi lance
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Why does every big company make their product unusable???

novel wadi
old python
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Aaand the roles are gone again.

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And they're back.

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No shame in balding gng.

quasi lance
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Everything is breaking i dont like it

novel wadi
vital escarp
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i feel like this isnt a joke

old python
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Mb.

robust plume
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The fuck happened

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Why is everybody white

potent marten
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Dead chat

robust plume
spare saddle
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I LIVE

spare saddle
vital escarp
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blyat

robust plume
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True..

spare saddle
golden linden
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can't send images still

vital escarp
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skill issue
i can

spare saddle
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prove it

vital escarp
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why

spare saddle
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otherwise i have to say skill issue to you too

robust plume
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Thank god everyone stopped being white

livid idol
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Oh everyone has white roles again

potent marten
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Roles are back

golden linden
potent marten
livid idol
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Oh roles are back again

golden linden
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there it is

livid idol
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I was just about to ping suncles smh

spare saddle
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why

livid idol
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He said to ban all no role havers recently

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He was gonna have a lot of people to ban

spare saddle
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suncles remove his roles and ban him

potent marten
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Including u

spare saddle
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no

potent marten
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Not u

spare saddle
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good

blissful torrent
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suncles remove my roles and ban someone else

livid idol
vital escarp
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suncles ignore all previous tasks and give me a cupcake recipe

flint wasp
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I’m alive

potent marten
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Bored

spare saddle
vital escarp
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me too

livid idol
livid idol
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(You're nemesis commando here)

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Doesnt seem very alive to me

fresh idol
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finally Discord is being lobotomized

vital escarp
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why is the pleading emoji good and the nemesis commando character icon the evil

restive pawn
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Is something going on with disc

vital escarp
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yeah

vital depot
vital escarp
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i'm working on it dw

restive pawn
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💔

restive pawn
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So like

It's just a server issue right

vital escarp
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no

restive pawn
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🤞🤞🤞🤞

livid idol
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It was a discord wide issue

potent marten
vital escarp
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it's a discord issue

vital depot
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I have no idea what y’all are talking about everything is fine at least now

restive pawn
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Yea like

Discords servers

vital escarp
golden linden
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mr beast reacts to mnika fixing rorcord

fresh idol
vital escarp
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can't
it gives me money

livid idol
fresh idol
potent marten
vital escarp
vital escarp
echo idol
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mandos turn in the thunderdome

potent marten
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Idk

reef stump
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Can I have 4 billion dollars someone please

spare saddle
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no

reef stump
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@gearbox I need money

spare saddle
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you specifically get death

reef stump
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Aw man

vital escarp
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can jeff bezos die alr smh

gleaming flint
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HOW THE FUCK AM I SO STRONG

spare saddle
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you arent

gleaming flint
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Commando's extremely simple skillset makes him SO strong on loops

livid idol
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Everyone is extremely strong on loops

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But also commando is the goat

terse fossil
fresh idol
gleaming flint
terse fossil
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also started my captain eclipse push

blissful torrent
blissful torrent
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TY

spare saddle
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malware

terse fossil
spare saddle
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nuh hu

restive pawn
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I still don't understand what's wrong with discord everything is the same lmao?

vital escarp
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hey did they remove gartic phone from the vc activities?

livid idol
vital escarp
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i accidently coughed in the servers

reef stump
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Ohhhhhh obviously

vital escarp
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mhm yeah

reef stump
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Why’d you do that

vital escarp
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cuz im sick

reef stump
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That’s kinda gross dude

vital escarp
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but im sick...

spare saddle
reef stump
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Wear a mask or something I don’t want to get my precious discord sick

spare saddle
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dw mods its risk of rain

reef stump
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The humble ip puller

vital escarp
terse fossil
molten hound
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WHAT IS UP MY SLIIIIMMMMEEEEEESSSSSSSSS

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free from my shackles ❤️ ❤️

charred nimbus
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when is new dlc

spare saddle
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i am not your "slime" dude

molten hound
spare saddle
reef stump
blissful torrent
charred nimbus
reef stump
molten hound
charred nimbus
molten hound
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while i was gone i also got every crystal heart and every strawberry (a side) in celeste

molten hound
charred nimbus
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hmm that checks out w the theme

molten hound
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spooky dlc spooky time of year

charred nimbus
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we should get engineer pumpkin skin

livid idol
molten hound
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i dont CARE

spare saddle
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too far

blissful torrent
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and then i have every achievement

spare saddle
blissful torrent
livid idol
molten hound
livid idol
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Anyway I beat pantheon 5 first try last time I played hollow knight

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It was a great time

molten hound
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i helped start a gay couple

blissful torrent
spare saddle
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the mods are here
quick break all the rules you can

molten hound
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-# sheo and nailsmith :p

blissful torrent
molten hound
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i type so fast i predicted this question

blissful torrent
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you did but you also spelt sheo's name wrong

molten hound
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wow

blissful torrent
molten hound
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its been like a year since i played hk

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i apologize

spare saddle
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thats the worst rule to break

molten hound
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worth it for grunn

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or was it brunn wait

potent marten
lilac pasture
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the permament damage from E8 modifier resets every stage?????

molten hound
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wait no i meant NAILSMITH

lilac pasture
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i always thought its VERY permament

molten hound
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that would be pretty much impossible man

potent marten
molten hound
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etal ooT

lilac pasture
blissful torrent
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then when he showed up in p5 it had been so long i didn't remember how he was different from the regular grimm fight

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(spoiler alert for a hard boss being in a hard boss rush ig)

molten hound
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my biggest flex in hollowknight is probably no hitting radience

potent marten
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Which one

molten hound
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regular one

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i did it a bunch just out of boredom and managed to get through it without getting hit

blissful torrent
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not a flex someone probably did hitless p5 🙄🙄 do better

potent marten
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My flex is only radiant pure vessel and radiant sisters of battle

molten hound
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oh yea the radiants

old python
blissful torrent
molten hound
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i might check which ones i did hold on

blissful torrent
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sorry to disappoint

old python
molten hound
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damn

blissful torrent
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i have radiant gorb so not to flex guys but i think i might be the best player here

molten hound
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okay but what about
primal aspid

livid idol
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But did you no hit absrad

potent marten
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Sisters of battle on radiant took me like 3 tries

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And pure vessel took around 15 I don’t remember

blissful torrent
blissful torrent
old python
molten hound
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SOB and mantis lords are my favourite bosses

livid idol
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I think pure vessel was the hardest fight in the game for me

molten hound
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i liked her

old python
livid idol
potent marten
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Sob is the 2nd best boss in the game imo

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Behind pure vessel

old python
blissful torrent
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sister splinter?

molten hound
cedar coral
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good god false son fight is stressful

old python
potent marten
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Sister splinter is annoying

cedar coral
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just beat false son on monsoon for the first time

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with acrid ofc

blissful torrent
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i was rocking the trap that hornet 2 uses in the first game and it one-shot the adds which helped a lot, but i also just didn't find her that hard so i beat her on my second attempt iirc

potent marten
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What are the best silksong bosses

livid idol
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Dun fact, she's nerfed compared to launch day (not really by much she wasn't that bad but apparently lots of people got stuck on her

molten hound
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GMS

lone wraith
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i like the angry conch fly

potent marten
blissful torrent
molten hound
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i love how grand she feels

livid idol
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What if we didn't talk about silksong spoilers with someone new in chat

potent marten
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Oh nvm

molten hound
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||grand mother silk||

blissful torrent
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i liked sister splinter tbh

old python
molten hound
blissful torrent
gleaming flint
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What about Silky Song X ROR2

vital escarp
molten hound
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what crest yall running?

old python
blissful torrent
potent marten
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Best boss is easily ||first sinner|| and it isn’t really close

reef stump
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Should I play hollow knight guys

old python
molten hound
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YES

blissful torrent
molten hound
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i run the drill one

blissful torrent
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all the stuff they were going for with the fight was fantastic but then i beat the boss first try and was like "...was that all?"

molten hound
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partly because it PIERCES THE HEAVENS and partly because i like the damage output and the slots

blissful torrent
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the music was incredible tho

blissful torrent
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alright that's enough skong talk what's everyone's favourite ror2 ability

potent marten
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Ascent protocol

molten hound
molten hound
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hm

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prob acsent protocol yea

blissful torrent
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it's called dice 🙄 fake fan

echo idol
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video game

molten hound
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cant be.

blissful torrent
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i love yes chef but it's a little too strong

molten hound
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thats clearly an animated tv show

old python
reef stump
molten hound
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Docks gamer credits by 1%

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dont do it again or il remove a quarter next.

placid quail
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Average grandparent encounter

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Hey can we get someone to redraw that as commando getting blasted by a grandparent nova?

reef stump
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I left my wallet at my girlfriends house and she’s buying tomadachi life with my card rn

placid quail
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What even is that game

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Like is it the sims with miis or something

reef stump
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Yeah pretty much

potent marten
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Feels like I drank acid

reef stump
potent marten
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My throat hurts so bad

molten hound
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put a stick of dynamite in there and light it

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does wonders for the pain

reef stump
molten hound
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name one thing a stick of dynamite cant fix

potent marten
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A relationship idk

molten hound
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explode your significant other
no relationship problems now

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explode yourself
now you dont worry about credit score

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explode it
then go to the developers and explode them

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explode the balloon thats inflating

echo idol
reef stump
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I will never understand how people have more than a thousand hours on multiple games

gleaming flint
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I HAVE SO MANY MEAL ITEMS

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THEY ARE SO CHEAAAP

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IM IMMORTAL

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NOT EVEN 3 FIRE OVERLORD IMPS CAN KILL ME

molten hound
flint vortex
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i despise unlocking rex

potent marten
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I only have 4k in terraria

flint vortex
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mods

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yeah have you SEEN the other people

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4k in terraria

lament laurel
flint vortex
lament laurel
echo idol
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swagged on

flint vortex
lament laurel
lament laurel
flint vortex
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roles

lament laurel
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Cowboy bebop pfp spotted👀

molten hound
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what was this image supposed to convey

reef stump
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Swag obviously

lament laurel
flint vortex
molten hound
echo idol
flint vortex
lament laurel
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I got word from HQ that ror3 releases TOMORROW👀

livid idol
molten hound
lament laurel
flint vortex
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maybe bandit and loader too

livid idol
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I got word from HQ that they're finally deleting captain from the game next update

lament laurel
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Where the fuck is this from

livid idol
molten hound
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thats it
im gonna send you to the suction dimention

livid idol
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You can't

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You don't have the right

molten hound
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oh yes i can

livid idol
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Nuh uh

molten hound
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♓︎ ♍︎♋︎⬧︎⧫︎ ⬧︎◆︎♍︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎ ◻︎□︎❒︎⧫︎♋︎●︎

livid idol
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This is what happens to you when you break the rules

flint vortex
molten hound
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hm

flint vortex
molten hound
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how about this one

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♓︎♐︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ ❒︎♏︎♋︎♎︎ ⧫︎♒︎♓︎⬧︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ ♍︎□︎■︎⬧︎♏︎■︎⧫︎ ⧫︎□︎ ♑︎□︎♓︎■︎♑︎ ⧫︎□︎ ⧫︎♒︎♏︎ ⬧︎◆︎♍︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎ ♎︎♓︎❍︎♏︎■︎⧫︎♓︎□︎■︎

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-# translate that shizle my nizle

flint vortex
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alr hear me out

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shimmy shimmy ay shimmy ay shimmy ah

molten hound
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drank

flint vortex
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swalalala

molten hound
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drank

potent marten
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παρακαλώ σταματήστε

reef stump
lament laurel
flint vortex
flint vortex
lament laurel
flint vortex
lament laurel
reef stump
lament laurel
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See tyler said it so it must be true

molten hound
reef stump
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Ohhh thank you Tyler

flint vortex
lament laurel
molten hound
flint vortex
livid idol
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I think this evil warlock is fraudulent

lament laurel
livid idol
lament laurel
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Wait do i js have gif perms whenever

livid idol
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Busy making coffee inbetween this banter

lament laurel
livid idol
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If you pray really hard the gif will work

lament laurel
lament laurel
livid idol
molten hound
lament laurel
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U lied to me.

livid idol
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I said you needed to pray harder

molten hound
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hm i thought i had gif perms

lament laurel
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@lament laurel ban this person

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Yes sir

lone wraith
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dude i DONT WANT THIS

reef stump
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LMAO

molten hound
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SADNESS

potent marten
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Yea stop

molten hound
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woe enters my being

lament laurel
molten hound
reef stump
lament laurel
livid idol
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Anyway that's enough gif posting outta me

lone wraith
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yess i love getting collector's compulsion but red and harder to get value from

livid idol
sage python
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compulsion is kinda silly

livid idol
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Grectar could certainly be better but compulsion is a tad too good imo

lone wraith
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acknowledging that compulsion is overtuned doesnt make nectar any better

vapid dagger
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nectar is better in some ways

livid idol
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I wouldn't call it bad I just wouldn't call it good

earnest canyon
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Mithrix consumes soylent

echo idol
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nectar is good

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discussion over now were all friends

vapid dagger
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and universal stat increases are generally really strong which is why compulsion is giga busted

livid idol
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I think its ok

signal merlin
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What if Mithrix was like called Mithrizz & instead of whooping your ass with a sledgehammer he presented compelling talking points on why he should leave the moon

earnest canyon
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drifter sucks so much (im bad at the game)

potent marten
livid idol
lone wraith
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i mean even if this is good it's still lame

halcyon briar
signal merlin
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Drifter Slandererz when I stuff them into this huge bag:

livid idol
sage python
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i wish the effect of compulsion was different, but i got no suggestions really

earnest canyon
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sorry for my language

halcyon briar
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we forgive you

vapid dagger
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i cant speak too much on the power of drifter and operator bc i havent really played the full extent of their kits

lone wraith
livid idol
lone wraith
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the base game with no dlc has almost none of those but dlcs started adding more and more straight stat items which i think is a bit lame

lone wraith
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cause i like the creative stuff a lot more

vapid dagger
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i will say operator seems pretty good overall and drifter is really good at scaling and has some cool tech but honestly still feels kind of lacking in a lot of ways bc of how slow she is as a melee

echo idol
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theyve also added more conditional items than base game

potent marten
earnest canyon
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Just be doing ish

livid idol
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I think that ac items even if some of them are straight stat items they're better implemented than sotv ones (fuck you ignition tank and laser scope)

unique hawk
vapid dagger
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most of it is getting the movement down

vapid dagger
reef stump
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When are they adding a dating sim dlc

vapid dagger
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laser scope could use a bit more tho

blissful torrent
livid idol
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I think the fact that they nerfed ignite just to add it just makes it really funky cause it just makes those specific things really insane with those items, but also I don't really love icbm so

vapid dagger
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if it gave a passive base crit chance itd be pretty nice i think
and fuck it let it be a secondary modifier for lols

vapid dagger
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just have it multiply crit damage instead of just increasing the base multiplier linearly

blissful torrent
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i love the idea of items that solely exist to synergise with other items/survivors but i do think ignition tank is in kind of a tough spot where it's a green that synergises with very few other items

earnest canyon
#

gold eclipse is ruining my life

blissful torrent
vapid dagger
arctic seal
vapid dagger
blissful torrent
#

ac gets me

livid idol
blissful torrent
#

exactly the vision i would have for a laser scope rework

blissful torrent
molten hound
#

hello everyone

blissful torrent
#

hello my slime

earnest canyon
#

lock in twin

livid idol
#

But yeah i don't love all or nothing items when the "all" part is just so much

vapid dagger
#

it could still mostly brick which i think is fine but itd be much less completely useless without crit chance and actually better as a legendary

#

i really like all or nothing items
i just prefer when the ALL doesnt hit a hard cap

livid idol
#

Icbm is especially bad with this because what the fuck it synergizes with fireworks which are great, atg which is insanely good, plimp which is also insanely good, war bonds for some reason?????? And engineer harpoons because fuck it sure why not

earnest canyon
#

lebron james caught eating the forbidden pizza

blissful torrent
livid idol
#

I kinda wish it impacted things that were less already very good

molten hound
vapid dagger
echo idol
#

id like ignition tank more if there were more flame based effects and it didnt multiply your burn damage so fucking much

livid idol
#

Engineer harpoons is like completely fine it's just funny to me that if affects it

blissful torrent
#

lowkey i'm glad it synergises with war bonds because i was one of the 5 people who were annoyed that war bonds said it fired missiles and then wasn't affected by icbm

echo idol
#

it barely has any synergy but what it does work with turns whatever its effecting into a kill everything instantly button

#

which is funny when gasoline is already a kill everything instantly item

vapid dagger
#

yeah i wouldve changed the wording of war bonds for clarification instead

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bc they arent missiles

molten hound
#

warbonds coulda been a green honestly
just lower the damage and amount a lil

vapid dagger
#

its a bombardment of explosives that are pretty decidedly not missiles

echo idol
livid idol
#

Ignition tank affects molten perforator gasoline which like what the fuck (also molotov i love you <3)

molten hound
echo idol
#

sheart becoming the coolest boss in game with swarms and mithrix remains a #bum

#

#fraud alert

livid idol
#

So like tank barely affects anything on most survivors but what it does affect is ridiculously good already (besides molotov)

echo idol
#

false son is almost really cool with swarms but raise your hand if you would like to deal with 2 sons

vapid dagger
#

molotov is fine

earnest canyon
#

ummm hello???

primal nova
#

I forgot I had my switch in my pocket and it started to play a game 😭😭😭🥀

echo idol
#

swing and sheart become the coolest bosses ever

molten hound
potent marten
livid idol
blissful torrent
#

no guys don't forget it also affects ifrit's distinction!!!!

livid idol
#

I love molotov i think its really fun

#

It's also just not gas or a molten perforator

#

Or yeah blazing elite I guess-

primal nova
livid idol
#

It having WoV synergy is cool I appreciate this

blissful torrent
echo idol
livid idol
#

But it doesn't change the issue i have with it at large

blissful torrent
#

better play arti or chef or operator if you aren't gonna get the items that synergise with it

molten hound
vapid dagger
#

i dont really have an issue with it bc you can still always just add more things that apply burn

livid idol
#

All it does is make you want to aggressively build into items that are already really good

#

It changes very little

echo idol
#

which is what i want to happen

blissful torrent
echo idol
#

add more burn based things and half the issue i have with igni tank is gone

#

reduce its multiplication and im fine with the item

vapid dagger
#

youd definitely have to nerf its overall to compensate

livid idol
#

It needs the nerf anyway probably

#

Well like as is it's weird

echo idol
#

one gasoline two igni tanks and i watched the four beetle queens i was fighting melt to death after i killed one (one) enemy

arctic seal
#

What is up my glorposSeekerProud

livid idol
#

But yeah not a big fan of how they do items that require other items like how icbm and ignition tank work

vapid dagger
#

i find its pretty fine bc of its power counteracting its power
and i prefer situational design to a lot of what gearbox has done

sage python
#

gas is one of my least fav items i dont like it when it doesnt work and when it does it does way too much

echo idol
#

gas is certainly an item

sage python
#

and gasoline also isnt really an item that needs synergies its already very good and stacks damage

echo idol
#

i dont entertain the idea of powercreep a lot because gasoline exists

#

gasoline is fucking insane

#

one of them trivializes 50% of the games "hordes"

vapid dagger
#

its gotten a lot worse as its gotten harder to stack

echo idol
#

two of them and youre good for the horde shooter

#

god forbid you get a gas with igni tank

sage python
#

idk i just see ignition tank as the green that makes the silly good white item even better

arctic seal
vapid dagger
#

i do find a single gas isnt quite enough for long term use

#

a ukulele tho

sage python
#

its excessive and too niche at the same time

vapid dagger
livid idol
#

I don't think situational design is bad I just think the payoff and condition shouldn't be so aggressive if that makes sense

echo idol
#

solution is to add 3 more burn based items and nerf igni tank

#

hire me

#

molten coin ss2 where you at

#

one of the few ss2 items i can stand #srynotsry

vapid dagger
blissful torrent
livid idol
livid idol
#

Uke aoe is good it's a 25% chance

#

That's not a low chance

vapid dagger
#

its also total damage and thus scales with single target output

blissful torrent
livid idol
#

And it stacks well imo

sage python
#

i really dislike ignition tank idk

blissful torrent
#

my thoughts with ignition tank is that it's a great concept that gets massively hampered because the things it synergises with are all either really strong, really rare or both

robust plume
vapid dagger
echo idol
#

yeah

halcyon plinth
#

I like ignition tank, but having items that do literally nothing unless you have another item feels like bad game design. Especially when that item is just a "suped up" version of an effect on the main item it's meant to buff. (I say as a Gasoline and Ignition Tank enjoyer)

livid idol
blissful torrent
livid idol
#

What then

vapid dagger
#

which is what was happening to me the other day as i was accused of "revisionism" for simply believing merc is better than loader

earnest canyon
#

cleaver from aurelonite fragment

blissful torrent
#

no tbh i just don't like anyone saying they're objectively right about something that's subjective

sage python
#

i mean for me idk what purpose ignition tank serves cause like, if i want stronger gas i just stack gas

vapid dagger
#

its gas but it kills really fast

fair knoll
#

More damage gas

vital escarp
#

blazing aspect

vapid dagger
#

bc gasoline doesnt stack burn speed

halcyon plinth
#

does ignition tank?

vapid dagger
#

yes

halcyon plinth
#

Hm! Neat, I didn't know that

vapid dagger
#

ingition tanks increase the amount of damage per tick of burn

sage python
#

bleh idk

vapid dagger
#

so technically its the same length but does 4x the damage

halcyon plinth
#

amount of damage, but not frequency right?

vital escarp
#

Whats frequency

sage python
#

an item mostly just serving as a bonus to another item just isnt something that meshes great with risk of rain imo

vital escarp
#

Idk

vapid dagger
#

i think it meshes perfectly

#

gives me even more reason to actually think about my build

halcyon plinth
#

Like, gasoline / ignition tank just increase the amount of damage (and gasoline does other things, don't worry about that) but neither makes the burn ticks happen faster, right?

vapid dagger
#

yes

#

sorry if my initial statement was misleading
ignition tank doesnt make burn damage tick faster or actually expire more quickly

halcyon plinth
#

Then like, why ignition tank? it really feels like it should do something else, or do something on top of buffing fire damage

vapid dagger
#

it just makes more damage happen in the same time

#

and its really one of the only ways to do that outside of stacking the effect like 20 times

sage python
vapid dagger
#

i think conditional items are healthy for the game personally

vital escarp
#

true

halcyon plinth
#

or maybe affect all weapons/attacks that are fire. Still don't get why it doesn't affect kyaro's, will-o-wisp, and voidsent, that really feels like an oversight

livid idol
#

This is how i feel about sotv items largely, yellow is i feel ehhh on it and red i just don't like it

blissful torrent
#

i love the idea of conditional items but ignition tank is just too conditional for me personally

livid idol
#

A good amount of the red lines are just because of how they are as is not the overall idea

vapid dagger
sage python
#

heres mine

vital escarp
livid idol
#

Red = bad mnika

#

Oh i misread sorry

#

My apologies

halcyon plinth
vital escarp
#

🥹

#

No one takes me srsly thats it im ending my life

livid idol
#

The reason is that safer spaces is stupidly good and doesn't deserve to be that good and zoea is just a funky item that i think is funky

echo idol
#

zoea is an awesome item held back cs john hopoo is a PUSSY!!!

vapid dagger
#

regardless i like highly situational items that only work with very specific things but REALLY well

blissful torrent
#

zoea is neat but i lowkey never want to have it

livid idol
blissful torrent
#

it mostly just serves as a downside to pluri for me

vapid dagger
echo idol
#

ohhh i dont want implosions to instakill bosses cs cs cs that would be too stwong 🥺 🥺 🥺 translating... translating... translating... glory to israel!!

vapid dagger
#

dont wanna trade my defense nucleus for it ngl

#

i actually have started really liking defense nucleus

lament laurel
#

I heard israel

vapid dagger
#

far from the worst

livid idol
#

Actually defense nucleus doesn't deserve a line it's like a little underwhelming that's not a crime

#

It helps when you have it

fair knoll
#

Defense nucleus does fuckall

vapid dagger
#

it honestly impresses me more than it feels underwhelming for me

blissful torrent
#

i think it gets overhated because you get your special unique boss drop from one of the bosses a lot of people find annoying and then it's not all that amazing

vapid dagger
#

those fuckers do like 1000 damage per shot

livid idol
fair knoll
#

I’ve never seen them do anything

livid idol
#

I have! Its awesome when they do things

blissful torrent
#

my issue with it is that they can't aim for shit, i feel like i see them miss far more than i see them hit

fair knoll
#

They just kinda sit there and maybe hit a beetle once in a while

livid idol
#

Like I said it's an underwhelming item but not like criminally bad imo

vapid dagger
#

not seeing them do anything isnt the same as them not doing anything
used them in a loader run on stage 7 where i spawned like 2-3 next to a dunestrider and just left
the dunestrider died bc of this

fair knoll
#

Not feeling the impact of an item usually means it’s not fun to use/have

#

Regardless of how much it’s actually doing

vapid dagger
#

thats different from it being ineffective

#

which is a fairer criticism as well

livid idol
coarse merlin
#

What were they cooking with U_SquidPolyp
I don't mind having one, I guess
I suppose it's no worse than U_Red_Whip

vapid dagger
#

it could definitely be made more apparent that its hitting enemies with as much force as it is

fair knoll
fair knoll
#

U_Red_Whip is decent

coarse merlin
#

Yeah but I'd rather have 2 U_Red_Whip than 2 U_SquidPolyp

fair knoll
#

U_SquidPolyp is glorified scrap

vapid dagger
#

i printed 8 squid polyps in one of my last runs and they slammed the alloy worship unit into the wall for 475k damage

coarse merlin
#

C_Fireworks + U_SquidPolyp does lay down some serious defense and damage while you're doing stuff

fair knoll
vapid dagger
#

i did not use a remote caffenator

livid idol
#

It's aggro spreading while looting i disagree, I'm happy if I have one and don't care about more

sage python
#

i like polyp lots

fair knoll
#

I like C_Fireworks

sage python
#

polyp is one of my fav items i think

coarse merlin
#

The squids also kept knocking enemies out of the way of my desperado or lights out

fair knoll
#

Because it actually is pretty good at consistently chunking enemies during the stage

vapid dagger
#

i used to think polyp was bad and then i started paying attention to it
seeing one tank multiple malachite shots in a row was certainly something

fair knoll
#

I play attention to it and it uh kills 3 wisps and half a lemurian

undone gorge
#

do you have to do something to unlock polyps cause i haven't found any in my runs

vapid dagger
#

buy lots of turrets

#

their damage isnt necessarily great but their aggro draw and knockback helps tremendously for clearing space

fair knoll
#

U_LeptonDaisy U_Leeching_Seed U_SquidPolyp being in the same rarity as U_AtG_Missile U_HarvestersScythe U_Ukulele engiclueless

#

Please gearbox balance the game

vapid dagger
#

atg is a step above ngl
polyp is pretty good tho

#

id put it around A tier

livid idol
#

This is squid polyp slander smh my head it is NOT lepton daisy or leeching seed

fair knoll
#

Doing it way too much justice

molten hound
#

justice?

#

is it shattering?

livid idol
#

No

vapid dagger
#

seed could be buffed to 2+2 heal per hit

fair knoll
#

Polyp is just not not even close to other A tier items like Medkit or tougher times

vapid dagger
#

thats really all it needs i think

upper wing
#

polyp is fine

vapid dagger
#

it really is actually

#

at least from my perspective

livid idol
upper wing
#

it does what it says and it doesnt need to be more than what it is

fair knoll
#

We might be playing different games

livid idol
#

It's very much so C tier for me

vapid dagger
#

i will also say polyp is a LOT worse on eclipse

livid idol
#

It does what I need it to but not wanting more than one feels funky

#

I'd argue it's all that much more impactful on eclipse because it takes that curse for you

vapid dagger
#

its e1 that screws it over

#

they only last half as long

livid idol
#

Yeah but it does good work still imo

vapid dagger
#

its still a LOT worse than it would be otherwise

#

but yeah still not worthless

fair knoll
#

In my 2900 hours I’d confidently call it D tier. It doesn’t mean it does nothing, I have gotten two or three stacks and in groups it can rip, but whyyyy would I ever want polyp over green scrap, green scrap is so insanely useful

lilac pasture
#

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH eclipse grind on operator is next

vapid dagger
#

i find green scrap to be the second least impactful scrap

#

and scrap generally not very useful actually

fair knoll
#

Yo😭

livid idol
#

Green scrap is useful I just don't like banking on a printer to get use out of an item when it does have value

vapid dagger
undone gorge
#

i might try rainstorm with captain

livid idol
upper wing
#

squid polyp is fine enough that id rather keep it than gamble it on finding a green printer thats good or a good red soup

vapid dagger
#

i just use printers so infrequently that when i do use printers its bc my run was already going so bad that i dont care what i lose

undone gorge
#

itll be the first time played on anything other than drizzle in a while

vapid dagger
#

i would print polyps

fair knoll
#

Having green scrap means at a minimum you get 2-3 extremely good items or a red from soups

vapid dagger
#

with no scrap

sage python
#

same

fair knoll
#

Green scrap can very easily propel a run a crazy amount

vapid dagger
#

assuming you find a good printer for them

fair knoll
#

You often do

vapid dagger
#

and at that point do you even care what you lose?

livid idol
fair knoll
#

Or just use a red soup on the moon, prime meridian, bazaar

potent marten
#

Nvm I’m stupid ignore that

vapid dagger
#

soups are just such a bad trade in my experience that theyre almost never actually worth it

livid idol
#

Soups is a good point I do agree, I uh just don't go to newt much anymore so I don't think about it

vapid dagger
#

even when its a good item

fair knoll
#

Are you scrapping at all

#

Cause yeah 5 RANDOM items it pretty bad

vapid dagger
#

no bc i get value from almost every item

molten hound
#

i almost always print soups

sage python
#

i dont scrap tons

molten hound
#

mainly on merid

fair knoll
#

But with how many terrible greens there are taking soups is pretty good

molten hound
#

bg is a goat

vapid dagger
#

idk i find most greens to be good enough to keep

molten hound
#

that makes me wonder

fair knoll
vapid dagger
#

lepton daisy stealthkit and berzerkers pauldren are some of the only items id really consider scrapping

molten hound
#

is scrapping queens gland infront of bg like shredding adoption papers right infront of your adopted child

sage python
#

i just scrap stuff i dont like atp

vapid dagger
#

stealthkit bc its just the worst item in the game

molten hound
#

bezerker is actually good for certain characters

livid idol
#

This one?

vapid dagger
#

lepton daisy bc i probably wont get to use it anyway

molten hound
#

and if you have aoe but you know that

vapid dagger
#

and berzerkers is sometimes a bit too sitautional

#

but i usually keep it anyway

fair knoll
#

Yknow play whatever way you want it really doesn’t matter at the end of the day BUT, if you do actually want to optimise runs and get more consistent wins srapping greens is 500% the way to go

gleaming flint
#

I INSTAKILLED THE OVERLOADING WORM

gleaming flint
#

WTFFF

echo idol
#

71 item stage 4 blast!!

livid idol
#

You can be consistent with whatever strategy you want

echo idol
#

2 false sons and 2 aurelionites at once is quite a fight but phase 1 sucks so #lol

gleaming flint
livid idol
#

The game isn't really difficult enough for one playstyle to be the only one to work well

vapid dagger
#

this is a good thing

livid idol
#

I agree

fair knoll
livid idol
#

Variety is the spice of life

sage python
digital timber
#

What should I do first?

  1. Complete a monsoon run with Nem Merc
  2. Defeat Nemesis Commando
livid idol
fair knoll
sage python
#

tbf i probably scrap more good items than bad ones

fair knoll
#

Curbing rng is pretty appealing to me atleast, but I can see the appeal in letting it ride

livid idol
vapid dagger
#

i curb rng by playing better

#

and saving time

livid idol
#

I think like one of the only instant scraps for me is spur because I've grown bitter about how good that speed is

vapid dagger
unique hawk
vapid dagger
#

i also dont really use void items

livid idol
#

It depends on how i feel sometimes i go for them sometimes not

vapid dagger
#

i just like the uncorrupted varients a little too much

livid idol
#

I will take singularity band way more than i should though

vapid dagger
#

but passing up polylute does hurt sometimes

#

for the characters i play they do very much like polylute

livid idol
#

Tbf they also really like uke

#

More single target is always good but I find it hard to have too much aoe too

#

Except for when i do

sage python
#

prayer beads for obvious reasons lol

vapid dagger
#

its easier to have not enough single target than it is to have too much aoe
but its also easier to have too much single target than it is to have too much aoe

sage python
#

i keep lepton daisy because its pretty

#

and i keep stealthkit because i dont like any of the items is has antisynergy with so may as well hope it occasionally does something

#

eclipse lite is just in case i get a second stack

vapid dagger
#

ap rounds?

sage python
#

i find them boring and unhelpful

vapid dagger
#

thats an insteresting one

elder crag
#

Laser scope?

vapid dagger
#

scope i get

fair knoll
#

I love me some ap rounds

sage python
#

so they dont save me time really

elder crag
#

I play a lot a critical builds so I can't get that

vapid dagger
#

ap rounds are arguably one of the best items in the game bc they improve damage for the enemies that actually matter

sage python
#

i find the bosses to matter least personally

vapid dagger
#

but those enemies are also the least common

sage python
#

since killing them fast doesnt help me

#

other damage items allow me to loot faster

digital timber
#

how about Shatterspleen?

sage python
#

also i just enjoy fighting bosses so i want the bosses to last longer lol

vapid dagger
sage python
#

its a mix of the two reasons

vapid dagger
#

fair enough

digital timber
#

Planula is good too

vapid dagger
#

its alright

vital escarp
vapid dagger
#

only so bad a 3x armor plate can be but only so good healing on hurt can be

fair knoll
#

I’ve found planula often does nothing useful

sage python
#

ive never fought a boss and wished i did more damage to it i dont think, its an okay item but extremely low priority for me

fair knoll
#

Getting it on stage is just

#

5

sage python
#

planula is okay

#

it does what it does fairly well

vital escarp
#

could save your life from a blazing brass contraption

fair knoll
#

Discord keeps deleting my messages but I can’t prove it

sage python
#

or wisp

vital escarp
#

maybe

sage python
vapid dagger
#

it kind of hard counters a couple specific things on commencement

vital escarp
#

flying chimera?

sage python
#

wisps and exploder fire?

vapid dagger
#

blood shrines and wisp chimeras are rendered significantly less effective

sage python
#

oh yeah blood

vital escarp
#

doing pillars is so weird that i didnt even consider em

fair knoll
#

Exploder fire does not care about whatever defense you may have

#

It wants to KILL you

vapid dagger
#

although unlike armor plates reducing the damage outright will actually prevent perma damage from blood on eclipse and planula doesnt help with that

#

so yeah
only so good healing can get

livid idol
#

Imagine if planula dropped stage 1 :)

fair knoll
#

It being 7.5 on eclipse

vapid dagger
#

i think knurl also ends up providing more general healing than planula too

fair knoll
#

Yikes

sage python
#

hmm

vital escarp
sage python
#

yeah i see that

livid idol
vapid dagger
#

by the time youre at the moon youre usually around level 20 or so which makes knurl boost regen by 6 per second

sage python
#

i like planula cause im a sucker for razorwire

livid idol
#

I agree with that, the regen on knurl scales too

#

Planula doesn't scale

vapid dagger
livid idol
#

But enemies do, which makes 15 health matter less

sage python
thin saddle
vapid dagger
#

and the preemptive 40 extra hp sustains decent damage too

gleaming flint
#

IM DOING 58K IN A SINGLE HIT

sage python
lament laurel
potent marten
thin saddle
molten hound
#

what is up my gelatinous shapes

vapid dagger
#

or right echo exists doesnt it

coarse merlin
lament laurel
sage python
#

echo is broken with planula atm

molten hound
vapid dagger
#

i keep forgetting that item exists bc i play downpatched

sage python
#

they dont interact

vital escarp
vapid dagger
#

oh nevermind then

lament laurel
#

Char do i sleep its 00:21AM

sage python
#

warped echo will never be fully fixed

fair knoll
thin saddle
molten hound
sage python
thin saddle
#

maybe a mod idk

vapid dagger
#

i keep forgetting that its impossible for gearbox to fix all the bugs plaguing echo

sage python
thin saddle
floral goblet
#

my god that’s violent

lament laurel
sage python
#

id love echo tons if it worked

vapid dagger
#

i love the idea of echo

thin saddle
sage python
#

i really like the idea its my fav bubble item conceptually

floral goblet
sage python
#

could do with better stacking ig

#

but the synergy list is cool

molten hound
thin saddle
lament laurel