ror2-discussion

[golden linden]

if it's your first of either I'd go with soda

[vast river]

Ty

Tbh i dont play loader that often bc i dont really enjoy her but im trying to get every mastery

[vernal heath]

Full default is the strongest (personal pref on special though)
Realistically, unless you play Rex, your loadout isn't the most important thing
It's least important on Mercenary because he's the only surviror without objectively better abilities

[golden linden]

that's fair, what I said applies to any survivor also

[cloud topaz]

yeah people talk a lot in here about what abilities are best but realistically the only skill i can think of that is just straight up worse are commando roll

you would wanna use ballista over arrow rain in 90% of situations but there is still a niche lol

[upper wing]

i like alt loader cuz it feels more like playing as the hulk than playing as a bullet

[vernal heath]

Oh yeah forgot about arrow rain
You never wanna use it once you get ballista, it would be viable if it had a proc coeff above negative numbers though

[cloud topaz]

all they gotta do to fix commando roll is make you invincible during it like in ror1 and fix its buggy trajectory

like it would still probably be worse but it would at least have a use case 😭

[dense haven]

dodge roll from dark souls trust

[upper wing]

i think roll would be cooler if it still worked the way it did pre sots PLUS something like a debuff cleanse or armor

[golden linden]

debuff cleanse sounds cool
"roll to put out fire"

[haughty crag]

Roll
Roll a short distance. Can roll downwards while in midair, reducing debuff durations by 2s.

[austere prism]

how did roll work before sots?

i don't remember

[golden linden]

it had some quirky interactions

like sending you up if you rolled into slopes

qwp has a video on it I think

[haughty crag]

There should be a super movement focused class

[languid crystal]

loadout is important on many characters i feel, namely acrid, default commando, railgunner and engi to name a few

[candid burrow]

Isn’t that kinda loader?
She’s tanky but also moves a lot

[languid crystal]

she moves a lot due to util but her movement speed is bad so maybe thats why she wasnt mentioned

miner with more than 1 backup mag in modded ror2 comes damn close

my friend was flying with him

[golden linden]

her movement is speed is the same as every survivor

running and walking

[harsh trout]

wdym she's obviously a slow but powerful bruiser

[languid crystal]

yeah i agree, but shes def not the “speed focused class”

[sage python]

huntress

tho ig thats more agility

[haughty crag]

half assed idea

i want a bit more synergy for roll and slide ngl

[terse ferry]

ultrakill monkey brain when it sees 3 stamina and slide

[coarse merlin]

We're kicking mithrix in the crotch with this one

[haughty crag]

eg you can do a bicycle kick combo by rolling -> jump -> slide

[terse ferry]

i can only imagine what it would be like to have a ror2 survivor like this

[haughty crag]

i have inspriation from haze (deadlock) and trepang 2

the backflip and grenade part is from half life's black ops assassins

ok bye i need to sleep now

:3

[arctic seal]

From haze

Is it a purple one ?

[quasi lance]

Need a mod that makes it so when i start and switch stage i get random survivor abilities but im on ps5 so that aint happening 😭

[arctic seal]

Why just play metamorphis

[quasi lance]

Survivor ABILITIES, not random survivor

[arctic seal]

Its basicaly a random skin whit other abilities

[quasi lance]

Theres a mod that lets you pick your abilities at the start and it looks so cool but im too broke for a pc

[languid crystal]

whats the mod called

[upbeat orchid]

Rex is so epic

[golden linden]

wordle in 6

[narrow oracle]

yes

[tawdry hornet]

merc mains genuinely not even noticing with how many abilities they use in 3 seconds

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laugh at this user expeditiously

[mental anchor]

There's something kind of like this in returns
Artifact that lowers cooldowns but one of your abilities is disabled, every so often which one is disabled changes

[tawdry hornet]

it's every minute

i want it so badly

and i would LOVE to get artifact of origin but genuinely fuck that unlock

[uneven bloom]

: did you know that being gay causes memory loss
: oh man i didn't know that
(5 minutes later)
: did you know that being gay causes memory loss
: oh man i didn't know that

[austere prism]

it gets to the point where I just spam them all hoping my i frames don't get me killed

[tawdry hornet]

is this why captain can't remember the wars

[uneven bloom]

yes actually

[rugged pawn]

Anybody else get's the avalanche bug on operator?

Im pretty sure it happens when deliveryd drone picks up a rock and it drops weird

it tanks my frames so bad

[unique hawk]

It happens when you use a transport drone on a fixed enemy

Where they are normally immovable

[rugged pawn]

oh

bye avalanche

[unique hawk]

Fixed on the switch version because they got an extra patch with the late dlc

But not on anything else

[uneven bloom]

there's mods that fix this thankfully

[languid crystal]

another loss for the console players

[tawdry hornet]

can't wait for oldgen consoles to not get hallowed concepts 💔

[iron heath]

rlly hoping the next dlc comes with some hefty balance patch of base game and sotv content

like im talking the stages need to be polished, director credits looked at, items, and vanilla def survivors

i think early access updates and sotv garnered so much more playtime than any dlc after because they also balanced the base game. it hasnt been touched since 2022 drones dont count

[unique hawk]

I'm hoping the bug fixes come way before HC

[golden linden]

drone hasn't been the only thing but you won't count those either

[iron heath]

you dont count

[golden linden]

I do actually

[iron heath]

do it

[golden linden]

1 2 3 4 5 6
7

[unique hawk]

I think the last free actual content was viscous falls and delusion/delirium

[tawdry hornet]

[warm basalt]

what is delusion

[unique hawk]

I still do not understand why I can't use the prestige artifact while AC is disabled

[iron heath]

😼 heh, you missed 1.1, 1.2, 1.3

[tawdry hornet]

artifact of delusion

[unique hawk]

Why is that required to be on

[warm basalt]

oh yeah

[golden linden]

I only deal in naturals

[tawdry hornet]

when you complete the teleporter every chest you opened closes and if you guess what you got right you get another stack

i love artifact of delusion 🔥🔥

[warm basalt]

its op on drifter if u find a lepton daise or a regen scrap

[oak cave]

prestige is ac content so if ac is disabled prestige would be disabled. kinda like rebirth and sots

[upper wing]

i hope they fix some chest nodes being inside of objects

[warm basalt]

also why doesent it work in some chests

is it like a feature

[tawdry hornet]

i hope they remove hidden chests 💔

[iron heath]

i hope they make every chest hidden

[tawdry hornet]

and i wish some artifacts were hidden in the world instead of being a code like in og ror

[oak cave]

yes all chests are cloaked

we NEED that

[upper wing]

sounds like a modded artifact

[warm basalt]

which one would you make that

[tawdry hornet]

all of them...

actually having to find the artifacts is a lot more fun than screenshot code and trudge to stage 5

[unique hawk]

Yes but why? There is nothing about that artifact that should necessitate that. Hell, it shouldn't even be tied to paid content. At least rebirth made sense tied to sots

[iron heath]

ror2 balance mod makers out of a job when all cloaked chests balances the game

[sacred elk]

are you team tech x or team tech ten

[tawdry hornet]

i don't know what either of them do 🗣️🔥🔥

[oak cave]

idk but it is. not much to say other than its tied to ac so ig youll have to deal if u wanna use prestige

[sacred elk]

the item from binding of isaac

[tawdry hornet]

i'm a newgen at isaac

[sacred elk]

its the same item

[tawdry hornet]

hm...

[dim escarp]

I love this game

[sacred elk]

replaces your tears with a charge up shot that shoots big laser orbs of death

[tawdry hornet]

oh it's that one

[sacred elk]

no one can agree how to pronounce it

[tawdry hornet]

very funny however i play azazel MAKE BEAM BIGGER 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[sacred elk]

if its tech x or tech ten (roman numerals)

[tawdry hornet]

it's tech x

[iron heath]

im team tech ten

[tawdry hornet]

[upper wing]

i wish tp drops were like a random green with a chance of getting the yellow so that hitting shrines of the mountain wont just give you 7 berserkers pauldrons

[unique hawk]

I understand and accept that. I am, however, confused and upset with that decision. The lack of communication about updates is really killing my faith in the ror team at gearbox. That prestige wasn't just part of the update that didn't require dlc makes me concerned for the future.

[limpid mango]

Petrichor V is pronounced "petrichor Vee"

[tawdry hornet]

yes !

[golden linden]

petrichor five actually

[upper wing]

but you see they put the prestige code on iron alluvium so it has to be dlc content

[golden linden]

just like earth is Sol III

[tawdry hornet]

railgunner's passive doesn't work if you have sotv disabled since it's technically an item

[upper wing]

this is a joke btw

im also annoyed with how that works

[sacred elk]

where tf is it an item

[tawdry hornet]

PLEASE do not tell me false son's growth is a sots item...

[upper wing]

railgunner’s passive is a hidden item yeah

[tawdry hornet]

it's hidden like drizzleplayerhelper

[upper wing]

idk why they did it like that but they did

[iron heath]

too lazy to just cod eit

[unique hawk]

It's still my favorite game but despite how much I want to believe in how gearbox devs will handle this, they are not giving good reasons too. Whether that's the decision on how they want to handle rors future or middle management meddling is unknown but it's not a good look either way

[golden linden]

i mean are they giving any reasons

cuz dlc survivors used to be disabled with dlc disabled but aren't anymore

[unique hawk]

Preston was here a day or two ago collating questions to bring to devs

[upper wing]

yeah

[tawdry hornet]

no void fiend without sotv 💔

[upper wing]

i wish theyd just commit to either one

[iron heath]

this guys a fulltime fishposter

[unique hawk]

However, the fact that he needs to do that when we literally have a feedback and bug report forum is less than optimistic

[golden linden]

so it's more of a oversight than an outright position

[golden linden]

that's a depressing way to see it

[iron heath]

nobody cool uses feedback discussion

[unique hawk]

Unfortunately, I am not important enough to get my concerns addressed or probably even noticed

[golden linden]

what

[upper wing]

says who

[golden linden]

auto-depreciation so fun

[upper wing]

idk i think we are all pretty important

[unique hawk]

Still have gotten literally zero communication on the game killing bug of run reports on the ps5

I wasn't trying to be self-deprecating, merely pointing out that I am just one voice among hundreds

[upper wing]

its obviously the job of a game designer to design games but bug reports at the very least should be taken into account from everyone

[unique hawk]

A matter of statistics

[golden linden]

that's a totally different thing tho

[unique hawk]

Plus I'm off and on in server and I also occasionally leave because depressed so it looks like I'm here even less

Anyway, I gotta get back to work

[golden linden]

that wouldn't be a matter in the least also

[tawdry hornet]

have fun at work pile of rats

[upper wing]

ive been active in this community for like three years and plenty of people know that

even if my join date is march of this year

[uneven bloom]

chef is "balanced"

[iron heath]

tbh so true no opinion in this server is truly considered, and hot take shouldnt be. consumers of a product are not on the design team, the era of "constructive criticism" armchair deving has fundementally RUINED games in the past

shouldnt expect gearbox to gaf about console when it seems like fixing it is an inside joke atp

that 2nd part is just sad, but its just a big joke atp

[golden linden]

that's a lie too because we do have the operator bug fixed on switch, because it came in a later patch

[unique hawk]

I mean, I can understand taking anything the community asks or requests with a grain of salt, I feel like game breaking bug fixes are objectively good

I just want to be able to play my game without fear of my entire save bricking

[terse ferry]

am i having a stroke or is this worded messily

[iron heath]

stroke

[golden linden]

it's very easy to just say they are inefficient in communication , it doesn't get more complicated then that

[unique hawk]

Not that unlocking stuff really takes all that long but I shouldn't have to

[uneven bloom]

he asked not to get info on bugs but just to see which questions people would like answered. he literally said this

[warm basalt]

who has the lowest cortisol in ror2

[golden linden]

engi

[iron heath]

acrid

[golden linden]

built thrusters to not run

technically it's any of the robots lol

[iron heath]

your ror2 squad is captain, engineer, drifter, acrid.. what they putting on the aux?

[unique hawk]

I understand that and I'm not specifically wanting that info from preston in that instance. It would be nice if they at least said something in the past few months that this issue has been known rather than just saying fucking nothing

[sage python]

void fiend

it has no brain anymore theres just goop

[iron heath]

dont you have class to be attending

[golden linden]

cortisol goop

[uneven bloom]

no

[uneven bloom]

yeah i agree w this 100%

[warm basalt]

can we manipulate viend into giving me 10x emotes on jjs

[iron heath]

mid day mid week

[upper wing]

obviously i dont understand this game the way game developers do but ive been playing for 3 years pretty much nonstop outside of the sots era, i feel like both my opinions on things and the casual players opinions on things should be considered

like i said its pretty obvious that none of us are in charge of the game and that’s probably for the better but simply bringing up issues we have is fairly harmless when the devs can hear that feedback, say “okay so they want some kind of buff to X? okay lets design something that will make X be better and feel better”

[unique hawk]

I can understand maybe some other bugs getting not a lot of communication because they aren't gamebreaking but this is one that literally makes the ps5 version unplayable, which is especially upsetting because they're dropping support for the ps4, which has my only way of kind of fixing the issue

[sage python]

idk what that means

[warm basalt]

giving me bobux in boblox

[sage python]

present day present time

[iron heath]

woah... you mean, right here,.. right now?

[unique hawk]

If my ps5 save data get broken, I can delete it and reloading the game will import my ps4 data. Which will no longer work once the console versions aren't on the same patch anymore

[golden linden]

that is totally understandable tho, but to say your voice doesn't matter is to say you give up on wanting it fixed, for me

be loud and obnoxious

[upper wing]

i think its definitely the developer’s job to decide how to to make changes, not the community’s

[unique hawk]

I try but I only have so many spoons

[golden linden]

I got false son hitbox fixed a day before one of the patched by just reporting it

you're not alone in reporting that one also

@restive pawn also always talks about it

preston knows of the bugs, but there is still a problem of not knowing what they know

[upper wing]

did i spend like a month or two writing a doc for how id buff and nerf every single ability in the game? yes. do i think gearbox should follow it to a tee? no, theyre the game designers, not me

[iron heath]

the people in here with opinions are often some of the most talented people you'll ever meet that i get so frustrated they're wasting their time hoping that a call will be answered that will never come

forget this game and its issues... become a creator

[golden linden]

good will gives me the thought of thinking they know everything, but many years have been passed ever since hopoo era that we don't know what they know

which circles back to
be loud and obnoxious

[iron heath]

every year its a different rotation of young adults or teens who have real skills and passions and instead are in this discord all day talking about numbers

be the one making things for people to complain about, seperate yourselves from consumers

[golden linden]

you're very funny

[iron heath]

sadly i was being serious

my lunch break is over bye lol

[golden linden]

it's not sad at all lol

keep the good work

[vernal heath]

It's only important on Acrid if you plan on long runs, blight scales like total dog ass
Default Commando is fine, Commando in general is kind of weak relative to other survivors
Railgunner I only really use her default stuff, maybe alt special sometimes when I'm feeling like an easier run, but she can run anything as long as you keep her impulse mines
Engi just needs his default turrets and he's chilling, but with all these characters, you can really run whatever you want and it'll still be solid

[vapid dagger]

loadout changes how you approach characters a lot of the time

with commando tho id say his default kit scales notably better while the alts grant more instant gratification that you can use to press the advantage they give you more directly

[leaden quest]

I know what's wrong with it
It got no soul in it

[vapid dagger]

with default merc hes extremely movement focused
with alt merc hes a lot more timing focused

loader plays extremely aggressive with alts and is high commitment while with defaults prefers to set things up and maintains a means of escaping bad situations until the right moment to strike

[terse ferry]

sounds like alt loader is quite the powerful bruiser..

hope she isn't slow and powerful

[vapid dagger]

i still see it as referring to attack rates

shes got great traversal options tho

[vernal heath]

It changes your gameplay, but it doesn't determine the run with really anyone (except Rex, default Rex is a SNOOZEFEST)

[vapid dagger]

idk what you mean by "Determine the run"

[vernal heath]

Default Merc is more survivability and movement, alt Merc is more offensive

Alt Merc applies a lot more expose and hits harder while default Merc has way more i-frames

[vernal heath]

You're not screwed if you don't run the best loadout

Unless you're rex

Because Rex sucks, and is bad

And he sucks

[terse ferry]

*green rex sucks

[vernal heath]

All Rex sucks

[vapid dagger]

ive definitely run full machine rex and seen surprisingly little difference

[terse ferry]

🗨️

ok rex sucks conversation is boring actually

[vapid dagger]

the more i actually play rex the more i feel like he just
doesnt really care much about anything

[terse ferry]

uhhh railgunner sucks

[golden linden]

it's not because I get to use the gif

[vapid dagger]

not necessarily in a "good" or "bad" way just that rex outputs so much healing and is effective at all ranges with amazing crowd control that it kind of stops mattering how good or bad he is

[sacred elk]

i love rex

i love railgunner

[vernal heath]

All this just to SUCK

[sacred elk]

i love everyone

[golden linden]

<- Rex

[sacred elk]

except heretic

she kinda blows

gamefeel is off

[golden linden]

yeah she a bird

she should be blowing

[vapid dagger]

definitely one of the most uncomfortable to rank definitively bc he does SUCK on eclipse
but thats bc eclipse specifically screws over the way he wants to play

[terse ferry]

heretic has one interesting to use skill and it has fucked up gamefeel anyway because of how the charge time -> distance scaling works

[uneven bloom]

chatgpt ai generate me a risk of rain 2 fan!
🤖 GENERATING... YOUR FAN IS.... MERC MAIN 🤖

[sacred elk]

birds dont blow

they fan

[golden linden]

what happens when you move a fan

[vapid dagger]

and i dont like that eclipse punishes players for playing "lame" bc it somehow is determined "lame" by some arbitrary measurement

[terse ferry]

if you think about it merc and rex are the same
high survivability survivors with excellent tools for dealing with crowds and that are complained about by bad players

[sacred elk]

it fans away

[golden linden]

it blows

[uneven bloom]

anyway this is my favorite chef loadout actually the secondary you pick doesn't matter for this it's fun with sear too

[vernal heath]

Jealous of my skill
Rex mains couldn't understand

[sacred elk]

i got heretic in a metamorphosis run the other day

[golden linden]

wtf really

[vernal heath]

Ice secondary is so busted dude 💔

[uneven bloom]

rex takes more skill than mr iframes and big damage

[sacred elk]

it was the only time ive ever been happy to see voidling

yeah

[vernal heath]

Rex takes no skill

[sacred elk]

stage 2 had both hooks and essence

[sacred elk]

and i was mult at the time so i said fuck it

[uneven bloom]

merc takes negative skill, and 0 is bigger than -1

[golden linden]

top 5 highschool comebacks

[vapid dagger]

like yeah you can play no hit glass canon runs
those are great and effective and look cool
but you can also play unkillable moving fortress and do pretty much just as well
honestly playing in a way where damage is unavoidable and just knowing what will or wont kill you arguably implies a higher mastery of the game mechanics than mastering a "parry" windows for merc to be invincible for

[sacred elk]

then i got visions from newt (plus a second visions on stage 5)

and then strides was on the moon

and i died right next to them

i picked them up as a drone and the guy that lived went voidling so i got to play as heretic

only time ive ever been happy to see that mf

[mental anchor]

she does lose a bit of movement since the alt punch stops her and the alt grapple pulls light things towards her

[terse ferry]

alternate universe where everyone thinks rex is busted for the healing he has but his only loadout is green rex

[mental anchor]

alternate universe where directive harvest isn't lowk the worst skill in the game

[sacred elk]

top ten alternate universes that never exist

[uneven bloom]

only took 2 rerolls

[sacred elk]

biblical levels of greed

[vernal heath]

Hardest character in RoR2 btw
RoR2 doesn't really take skill though tbh

[sacred elk]

ive spent probably like 20k lunar coins rerolling for heresy items

[vapid dagger]

id argue rex is harder

[uneven bloom]

merc is not the hardest character in ror2 what

[vapid dagger]

artificer too

[uneven bloom]

you're playing as the guy that spams abilities and gets free iframes, are you insane

[vernal heath]

Absolutely js

[brazen moon]

absolutely not

[vernal heath]

Sorry y'all but Merc is the hardest

[terse ferry]

they think rex is bad, i don't think they know how to use survivability-based abilities

[golden linden]

merc has chronic back pain

[vernal heath]

I play Chef, I know how to use survivability based abilities

[golden linden]

rex has been 7 years in AA

[vapid dagger]

alright
im gonna do a merc run since hes clearly the hardest

[uneven bloom]

i'm fucked i'm so fucked

[vernal heath]

I love hitting random buttons and getting insane value, it's almost as easy as Seeker

[uneven bloom]

wrong video

[vernal heath]

If you can do a run with one character, you can do a run with all of them

[mental anchor]

the other day I turned on like 4 difficulty artifacts to see if they could balance false son

they couldn't

[vernal heath]

Seeker is even harder to balance

[golden linden]

the other day I did the chacha slide

[sacred elk]

are you team catstare.gif or cat-chud.gif

[terse ferry]

since we're on the topic of merc being easy vs difficult i tried to do a merc run the other day and got bored before stage 1 finished

[mental anchor]

wait
new ror2 challenge run
start with stone flux
that's it

[vapid dagger]

bold claim

[brazen moon]

chud because they are too cute 😭 😭 😭

[vapid dagger]

i would say if you can consistently win with default commando specifically you can consistently win with any character

[terse ferry]

i was about to go out to see my outdoor cats then remembered it's 2AM

[golden linden]

are you a RuCuCuRu:RbWuWrRu or a SuP-P-Su:P-P-P-P-:RbCgCgRb

[sacred elk]

maybe your the cat-chud after all

[mental anchor]

we did it gang
ion surge is now slightly less busted

[uneven bloom]

glowing meteorite keeps proccing atg on my own turrets

[vernal heath]

Nah RoR2 is super easy

It's gotta be the easiest roguelike I've ever played

[golden linden]

they call you the gamer

[vapid dagger]

good for you i guess

[vernal heath]

They should make RoR2 more like RoRR

[golden linden]

lynx are coming

no tele bubbles too? :ooooooooo

[mental anchor]

I still think that when hc drops they should add blighted elites to pre-loop monsoon and tell literally nobody about it

[still torrent]

They should ror2 like skibidi toilet

[golden linden]

first perfect game since rock paper scisors

[terse ferry]

ror2 to me is in this fucked up spot where the enemy attacks are so basic that when you know how to progress through the stages it becomes really easy, but because of how scaling works if you don't know how to properly loot then you kinda just get oneshot on stage 4 or 5

[terse ferry]

so there's an initial learning curve that can last for a while but once you pass it it's kind of just like

sure

[vernal heath]

They should give gilded elites triple hp

[golden linden]

they should make me the president

[primal nova]

Wish me luck im trying the vengeance trial again w a heresy meta morph build

[brazen moon]

okay so that happens to me a ton wdym by properly loot

[vernal heath]

They should replace Mithrix with Providence and act like Providence never died in the first game

[terse ferry]

loot as much as you can as quickly as you can

[mental anchor]

I half wonder if I've started doing these wacky bullshit runs because I've played so much to the point that I need a comically large wrench thrown into the mix

[brazen moon]

oh okay

[rugged pawn]

i hate the elder lemurian challange for operator

[primal nova]

Prov is in rorr

[terse ferry]

the most common advice is full loot stages period
but as you get better you can afford to do rush runs

[primal nova]

Iirc

[brazen moon]

i alr do that unless it’s one of the fuckin new maps because i don’t know where everything is yet

[rugged pawn]

i did the cube but it did not count

[mental anchor]

prov is in returns and 1 yes

[primal nova]

Okay was abt to say I sorta remembered that

[mental anchor]

he's also not exactly the most intimidating final boss since a lot of his attacks are pretty telegraphed
although phase 4 can catch you lacking

[terse ferry]

but anyway yeah i wish enemy attacks in ror2 were just a bit harder to avoid mindlessly

[primal nova]

Huntress is Hella op in rorr

[mental anchor]

add a resident evil 4 ass qte every time an enemy attacks

[brazen moon]

i wish Mithrix was harder tbh or at least a more engaging fight

[terse ferry]

like i took a very long break from ultrakill and in that time the only 3d game i played was ror2
and when i came back to ultrakill for the fraud update i was washed as fuck
not because i lost my muscle memory for weapon combos but because i had to go back to avoiding real attacks

[uneven bloom]

you should try out the mod score made that gives enemies movement prediction

[brazen moon]

the umbral mithrix mod does a decent job i just wish there was an actual base game thing hshshshsh

[terse ferry]

oh right prediction mod
i should try that one

[uneven bloom]

i think 66% movement prediction makes it so you have to sprint to dodge projectiles from lemurians etc on characters with smaller hitboxes

[mental anchor]

I feel like ror might be a harder game to design unique attacks for if that makes sense
in ultrakill you play as one character with specific movement tools that the enemies and stages can be designed around
whereas in risk of rain you have I dunno 15 characters to balance the enemies around

[vapid dagger]

tbf
i always thought rorr was easier

[brazen moon]

i find it way harder

[vapid dagger]

maybe im just too good at games then

[vernal heath]

Minimized enemy damage modifier ✌️😭

[brazen moon]

goated fr

[vapid dagger]

dont even need that
just armor on level up is enough

[terse ferry]

this is true but like look at imp overlord for example
you want to jump whenever it launches its spikes and avoid them when they linger on the ground, and to deal with its melee you want to space it out
but because the boss is faster than you you can't always space it out, so you have to bait out the melee and be careful because it has such a large hitbox

it feels engaging enough without being particularly difficult

and it's one of the only tp bosses to be like that

[mental anchor]

look at wandering vagrant for example
you hide behind a rock and shoot it until it dies

[brazen moon]

snooze fest jellyfish

[terse ferry]

wandering vagrant where you sprint to the side sometimes and hide behind a rock when it falls below half health

but like to be fair vagrant is a stage 1 boss so i can excuse it

grandparent on the other hand

[vapid dagger]

or just hide behind a rock the whole time

or play merc and "parry" the nova

[mental anchor]

I've also wondered if the teleporter bosses aren't made super threatening because there's the expectation that there will also be a lot of enemies around

[primal nova]

Vengeance is annoyingly hard for the hersey build

[terse ferry]

this is true but then there's alloy hunter who is threatening enough but also pretty easy without the chaos of the tp enemies

[primal nova]

But at least your clone gets stuck with it 🤓

[mental anchor]

I mean there are ones that can still catch you lacking, if you like standing in the middle of open areas stone titan can sometimes just shred you for a bit

[terse ferry]

imp overlord and alloy hunter are some of my favorite tp bosses because they feel like how tp bosses were originally meant to play

and alloy hunter isn't even a real fucking tp boss she's a special boss 😭

[mental anchor]

to defeat clay dunestrider you break your space bar

[brazen moon]

alloy hunter is very fun and all of my friends hate them 💀

[terse ferry]

oh yeah shoutout to SCU as well

its ai is kinda dumb sometimes but the attacks themselves are nice

[brazen moon]

which orb…

[mental anchor]

control unit can also spawn a bunch of enemies which diverts your attention

wtf was I doing last time I was here

[brazen moon]

😭 😭

[terse ferry]

shadow freddy vuelta al ruedo

[mental anchor]

stone golem is going into freddy faz bear

[brazen moon]

are they foxy because of the jumpscare and they jump at you

[mental anchor]

yes

[terse ferry]

it even has a plushie

[brazen moon]

makes sense

[uneven bloom]

wait that's really fuckin good actually

[primal nova]

YAYYYY I BEAT THE TRIAL OF VENGEANCE

[brazen moon]

yooo

[uneven bloom]

i dont have to worry about my own collapse killing me from glowing meteorite

[primal nova]

Doing it w a heresy build is Hella annoying

[restive pawn]

PS5 bricking? 👀👀👀

[jolly grove]

Damn bro

[primal nova]

As soon as I enter the portal 😭😭😭

My 3rd crash 😭😭😭

[jolly grove]

What if you didn’t enter the portal instead

[primal nova]

Kinda had to 😭😭😭

[jolly grove]

What if you didn’t tho

[warm basalt]

petition to gearbox to add ror2 to the wii

[jolly grove]

[primal nova]

Can't leave the artifact zone wo going through the artifact portal

[mental anchor]

overloading worm is the marionette because it's not necessarily super crazy to deal with but it you forget about it you kind of just die

[jolly grove]

[primal nova]

Yes

[mental anchor]

also story relevance or something

[unique hawk]

It might saved. The challenge triggers when you grab the artifact, not when you leave via portal

[livid idol]

Five nights at stone golem doesn't really sound that nice though

[primal nova]

As someone who owns a wii I petition hard

[terse ferry]

five nights at stoner's

[queen heron]

lmao

[warm basalt]

five night at glorpos

[primal nova]

And actually I think it would honestly work out especially with how the wii remote is designed

[queen heron]

risk of rain 2 with forced motion controls

[terse ferry]

oh also hi bordurn!

and hello gabbo rosalina

[warm basalt]

@arctic seal

[queen heron]

hi im just lurking

[primal nova]

It would be easier ngl

[mental anchor]

this is all I've got rn

[warm basalt]

wake up twin

[terse ferry]

i don't think william afton was racist

[warm basalt]

suncles make this and my robux is yours

[mental anchor]

fnaf was in the middle of like rural ass united states so he might've been racist

also it was the 80s too

[queen heron]

racism is canon to fnaf lore
quick call matpat

[spare saddle]

what the fuck did i walk in on`?

[livid idol]

Hiya goob!

[vapid dagger]

merc isnt hard

[terse ferry]

how is your day bordun

[mental anchor]

the part when the 5 commandos chased down mithrix who tried to hide inside the lunar chimera suit but then all of the fucking fire he put in them burned him alive and he died sort of

[livid idol]

Getting ready for work but otherwise intend to bum around till then, so i guess good!

[terse ferry]

fire emoji

[mental anchor]

I should've probably said hi brodun hi goob even though I've been here for like 10 minutes now

[livid idol]

Hi split

[sacred elk]

vuelta al ruedo is my favorite fnaf animatronic

[mental anchor]

I'm pretty sure shadow freddy vuelta al ruedo is in reference to something that would take a bit to explain

[sacred elk]

When the five is nights

[warm basalt]

yoo is someone an wii expert

[mental anchor]

you need to get through at least 5 stages to reach mithrix

[terse ferry]

5 stages at provi's

[mental anchor]

there's already a ror fighting game but is there a ror fnaf game

[tawdry hornet]

what could you POSSIBLY be cooking up

@vivid schooner

[mental anchor]

fucking around

[vivid schooner]

tier list of doom ig

[terse ferry]

it could actually take place at an outpost or rallypoint
similarly to the void infestor logbook

[mental anchor]

reaver?

[terse ferry]

infestor

[sacred elk]

Five nights where it could possibly rain

[tawdry hornet]

imagine waking up in the middle of the night and looking out the window to a fucking imp overlord's eye just staring in 😭

[mental anchor]

I guess reaver could've happened in like
any stage

[tawdry hornet]

it's like comically taking up the entire window

[mental anchor]

identify yourself

[terse ferry]

@mental anchor are you freaky

[sacred elk]

Top ten most relevant things to the conversation

[mental anchor]

like scary freaky or socially uncomfortable freaky

[spare saddle]

where is crabs and plankton

[terse ferry]

your interpretation

[mental anchor]

well I don't just say weird shit in public spaces so I'm probably not the latter
sometimes when I tell people I'm working on something mischevious they'll say that they're scared for what it'll be so I guess I'm scary

[terse ferry]

scary split

[terse ferry]

this fits too well

[queen heron]

mithrix being squidward is accurate because he's about as good at actually attacking shit than squidward is at playing clarinet

[terse ferry]

mr krabs specifically

[uneven bloom]

wait goobessa i gotta show you a tgweet

[sage python]

can i see the tgweet too? 🥺

[round sandal]

Heh, guess who’s here

[sage python]

chat, the meower is !!!

[round sandal]

Yeah she is

[uneven bloom]

Yersss

[terse ferry]

didn't know mithrix was a singer

[uneven bloom]

ITS TRUE

[vapid dagger]

yeah
merc is easy

[sacred elk]

what about garry

we need the worlds greatest scholars on this

[sage python]

garry is a birdshark

[mental anchor]

hermit crab

[sage python]

this is garry

[spare saddle]

grabs salt

[vapid dagger]

larry the lobster

[mental anchor]

void jailer is right there

[sacred elk]

snail at arms will return in hallowed concepts

[vapid dagger]

void devastator
"can you feel it mr crabs?"

[upper wing]

you still use twitter? im sorry for you

[livid idol]

why only goob you should share with us

[upper wing]

that site last i remember was actually like downtown hitlerville

[terse ferry]

it has mithrix on it they can't post it here

[uneven bloom]

i can't share it here

[uneven bloom]

hopefully ill recover soon

[livid idol]

send it to my dms I guess? I have no clue how it could be that bad but im curious now

[upper wing]

praying for you 🙏

[tawdry hornet]

i wanna see too

[vapid dagger]

merc is hard apparently

[livid idol]

true...

[tawdry hornet]

supposed "mercenary is a hard character!" supporters when i show them my 17 purities

[vapid dagger]

now im thinking that the most obnoxious pillar skip would be using purities and a faraday spur to just float your way up with whirlwind alone

[sacred elk]

On a scale of one to ten how FUN do you think the hc dlc characters will be

Going off gut feeling and nothing else

[tawdry hornet]

one of them will be fun and the other will be the most BORING thing ever

[vapid dagger]

you could just dash your way up to the arena

OR

you could achieve infinite spin

[terse ferry]

AC has me hopeful but seeker leaves me wary so like 8

[sacred elk]

my dumbass almost said on a scale of what

[mental anchor]

I found operator pretty fun but I was unsure about drifter
she's not really my kinda character in returns either so it lines up but idk

[undone grail]

what kind if characters do you like?

[sacred elk]

after saying ac so much it feels weird to type hc

[terse ferry]

hallowed collective

[vapid dagger]

Halloyed connective

[mental anchor]

acrid, railgunner and void fiend come to mind
but I've also played a lot of mando and huntress lately, with a bit of engie and arti

[terse ferry]

just realized ac and hc both go by allo-ed co--e---

[undone grail]

after that is the halloween collective where everythings evil and scary

[sacred elk]

survivors of the hallowed collective: stormbound

alloed co is my favorite dlc

[undone grail]

enforcer will be returning in avengers doomsday

[mental anchor]

maybe I just don't enjoy drifter that much because I'm lacking both range and movement but also I become fuckbusted by stage 3

[molten hound]

what is up my slimes

[mental anchor]

the latter is a reason that although I think false son is cool I don't think I want to play him much, just because he gets obscenely strong really quickly

[livid idol]

captain to operator is the scale

[terse ferry]

CALF TENT

[molten hound]

TNET FLAC

[languid crystal]

default merc damage is lacking imo compared to alt

[languid crystal]

im just fine with drifter shes op but i just dont like how she plays

junk cube saves her tho

[molten hound]

i love drifter

tinker is so fun

also bagging

[vast canopy]

Low key I think Railgunners Sniper reload bar should appear after the shot fires, not after releasing the scope so you can hold a bead and reload.

[molten hound]

you murdered it in cold blood

[vast canopy]

Okay does False Son get strong fast even with 0 Lunars?

[molten hound]

pretty sure ya

infusion is pretty great

[vast canopy]

Huh... Im skill issued then.

I dont usually find health and wind up waiting on cooldowns to do damage vs vagrants and die for it.

[spare saddle]

did the server just quickly die for anyone else??

[golden linden]

did you unlock laser burst?

[spare saddle]

burt*

[vast canopy]

Yes I did and stakes

I wind up on cooldown a lot as false son.

[golden linden]

then yeah, the moment you get a second charge of laser burst you avalanche like crazy

and even then you got 0 cooldowns on bonking

it's a great tool

[steady vector]

Test

[vast canopy]

Cant bonk a vagrant camping in the sky

[steady vector]

Hmmmm

[vast canopy]

Cant bonk wisps either... sad bonkstick.

[iron heath]

risk of rain stages could rlly use a few new fauna that arent hostile like outside of birdsharks and the bug shader/texture on wetland aspect is there rlly anything else..?

[vast canopy]

Doesnt help gearbox REFUSES to fix melee only facing forwards

[spare saddle]

test complete?

[vast canopy]

Like why cant I swing upwards? It shows nobody in hopoo or gearbox uses the melee survivors primary melee at all.

[inner tusk]

Discord wide issue. Some servers couldn’t connect. DM’s wouldn’t send, etc.

[languid crystal]

i kinda dont like her in returns as well

[vast canopy]

Oh dam discord is breaking

[golden tide]

Yeah

[glass sigil]

tf is wrong with the server

[restive pawn]

Risking my rain

[undone grail]

i thought i killed chat

[spare kettle]

yikes

[cunning vine]

discord is exploding

[sick widget]

discord is back

[terse moon]

Discord is losing it

[unique hawk]

Discord be shitting the bed, so to speak

[languid crystal]

spam purity

[spare kettle]

legit had a mini panic attack that i had been hacked and deleted the server

cos it was completely missing for me for a bit after bein disconnected for 5 mins

[candid burrow]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkqjnKhH/

[unique hawk]

Pretty sure discord has a few hoops to go through to delete a server just in case

I think, so you don't do it on accident

They do for deleting an account

[brisk lion]

Discord is back

Lol

[livid idol]

risk of discord shitting itself

[forest shuttle]

oh so that's why some channels have the "!" on em huh

[small furnace]

Risk of Server Issues 2: electric boogaloo

[normal whale]

Shlawg i thought i got banned for nothing

Mythrix got the servers fuuuuck

[opal kite]

lowk thoght i was banned for a bit

[floral goblet]

yep

[golden linden]

!paul

[spiral oar]

Paul sucks

[golden linden]

took you a while

[vital depot]

it might finally be over

[pseudo epoch]

melody

[sacred elk]

should I play risk of rain 2 or mewgenics

[unborn forum]

ok ror2 is back up too lets go

[quasi coyote]

recycler and card on stage 1 fuuuuck

cant take both

[visual beacon]

Play mult

[hexed spear]

We are so back baby

[cedar coral]

I think i might actually main commando

I might do it

[vast canopy]

I dont use lunars on my solo runs.

[languid crystal]

o why not

[unborn forum]

i only use stuff like focused convergence

[vital depot]

exec card is my goat

[unborn forum]

cuz first of all im lazy to go in the game's code
second of all im poor on lunar coins
third of all they all kinda ehhh

[languid crystal]

but heretic!

[golden linden]

the time it took from that focused convergence message to now is how much time you'd expend getting the coins in

also not even the game's code, it's just a notepad file

[languid crystal]

it takes not even 30 seconds im not kidding

its such a good qol, take it from me, a switch player that barely managed to scrape by 230 lunar coins in 100 hrs lmao

[cedar coral]

whats focused convergence

[golden linden]

[candid burrow]

Raining my risk twice??!?!?!!!!!!!

[fair thunder]

Why do people scrap red items that didn't have a negative effect, like desk plant, when they aren't going to loop and red printers are horribly rare

[fair thunder]

Smaller teleporter area but it charges faster

[cedar coral]

ah yeah

[cedar coral]

idiots

[vital depot]

White item soups exist

[golden linden]

poopy reds don't do anything for me, it's funny scrapping them

as a bonus, I get to roll into white soups

I win either way

[cedar coral]

proud of myself

[vital depot]

also if they aren’t looping and they go to Mithrix, maybe they’re scrapping a red so that he can’t use it

[cedar coral]

im actually getting better at the game

[fair thunder]

But... Race

[cedar coral]

race huh who what

[fair thunder]

Race isn't an idiot

[cedar coral]

ohh

idk who that is but he may be if he scraps red items

[fair thunder]

He's one of the biggest ror2 video creators

[cedar coral]

wait actually I might know the guy

yup I know him

I've watched loads of his videos the name just didnt stick

[fair thunder]

Ye

[vital depot]

many reasons why one may want to scrap a red, even if they aren’t looping
How frequently are you really killing elites during a boss
You could scrap this and throw it into a white soup before Mithrix or False Son

[golden linden]

goes like this for me, dunno why tiermaker made formatted the text like that

[unborn forum]

Imma give myself a shit ton of coins once ill NOT FORGET FOR DXAMPLE

[golden linden]

what?

[unborn forum]

ill give myself a lot of lunar coins once ill stop forgetting about it

[narrow oracle]

this has to be ragebait

[spark fox]

Maybe the new dlc will release in October

[fallow sedge]

Warbonds is very surprising

[sacred elk]

why do you kill dios

[golden linden]

don't care

[unborn forum]

i dont remember what 75% of these do

oh hey all of my servers are back up lets go

[fallow sedge]

Does nothing while you have it and arnt dead so its basically red scrap ifyou play well

[sacred elk]

yeah but it never hurts to not have it

what if you get jumped by like 8 twisted gups

or one blazing blind pest

[unborn forum]

or, i kid you not, TWO blazing blind pests

[sacred elk]

one blazing blind pest and one mending blind pest

[spark fox]

You always scrap rejuve?

[golden linden]

yes

[cedar coral]

why scrap dios and desk plant?

especially dios

[golden linden]

.

[cedar coral]

and rack????

[spark fox]

Dios is uh

[golden linden]

you can keep going I'll have the same answer

[cedar coral]

but its a free revive 😭

[unborn forum]

dios is situational

[spark fox]

Dios is reasonable

[golden linden]

ok, don't care

hope you find many in your runs actually

[cedar coral]

yeah but its like its incredibly easy to die in this game

[cedar coral]

uh thanks ill take that as a blessing

#1 dios hater out here

[sacred elk]

we're risk of rain players, of course we hate anything being even slightly easy

[knotty canyon]

its easy to live too

[unborn forum]

like you have 3 mountain shrines and all credits went into blazing pests
Run.

[spark fox]

This

[cedar coral]

good point

wouldve been a better explanation than "dont care"

[unborn forum]

yessssss we must suffer

[golden linden]

lmao

[sacred elk]

lol, even

[spark fox]

Nkuhanas tho....that's build material right there.

[unborn forum]

nkuhanas is VERY situational

for rex sure, but theres like 2.384 rex mains so

[golden linden]

I scrap too much healing for it to ever do something for me

[cedar coral]

true

[sacred elk]

you cant say dios is reasonable and nkuhana's is build potential

[cedar coral]

healing is nice

nkuhana's is shit

[golden linden]

it's not for me

[sacred elk]

this guy hates self care

[unborn forum]

oh its midnight

[cedar coral]

dios is absolutely not reasonable but nkuhana's is shit

[unborn forum]

ima go to sleep im pretty tired anyway

gn bro yall

[golden linden]

how so, I like a little healing

little is the key word
yummers

[sacred elk]

damn

slug is like the one healing item i scrap

[spark fox]

healing out of combat doesn't exist for me

[golden linden]

and that's ok

[unborn forum]

thats rude... just imagine the little slug being shred into pieces

[sacred elk]

probably looks really funny

[golden linden]

escargot yummers

[unborn forum]

Bro......

[spark fox]

I pick up one slug just in case i get that split second of no combat though

[unborn forum]

drifter or acrid for getting clover yall

[spark fox]

Depends

[golden linden]

hulk jumping for the win

[sacred elk]

how does the skull rebound off the air and back into the shredder

[raw silo]

I personally prefer acrid. But it really depends on your current builds and moves.

[sacred elk]

whats the clover unlock

[golden linden]

20 stages

the long road

[unborn forum]

i mean i got drifter TODAY soooo like yeah imma stay with acrid prpbably

[sacred elk]

yummers

i love looping

[vital depot]

The survivor you play best as

[unborn forum]

gotta say tho in these 30 mins of playing drifter

she lowk looks peak af

[golden linden]

she pretty good

[sacred elk]

gremlin gaming

[raw silo]

I thought you were asking who it's better on, not who to unlock with

I'm cooked.

[unborn forum]

she looks pretty slow tho, but so is acrid so...Im quite used to it

[sacred elk]

one time a guy dropped the aurelionite blessing drops off a cliff and i tinkerd them right before the commando picked them up

[unborn forum]

tinkerd?

[sacred elk]

drifters alt special

its stupid broken

[uneven bloom]

she can actually go very fast with her default kit

salvage lets you give yourself temp items on demand so you can skip out on some chesrs

[sacred elk]

for 2/3rds junk you can turn any item you want into scrap, reroll ANY shop or printer twice, and inflict random debuffs on enemies

[unborn forum]

damn bro

[warm basalt]

thats op with prestige and looping

[sacred elk]

thats op in general

but yeah 8 green scrap on stage 3 is kinda nutty

[raw silo]

Not to mention that drifter gets stat boosts per scrap.

[warm basalt]

with a ton of regen scrap

cuz like 2 green scrap at chef = regen scrap

[echo idol]

you

[uneven bloom]

hi

[echo idol]

link to the mod

[uneven bloom]

ok hold on

[echo idol]

ion see it

i use faster enemy spawns rn but i wanna try that out

[uneven bloom]

https://thunderstore.io/package/score/DirectorReworkPlus/ this one. its got a bunch of extra features too, very yummy

[echo idol]

okay yeah i figures

figured

[uneven bloom]

#yay

[echo idol]

i also wanna try out nuxlars early t2 elites

frankly ive always thought stage 5 was just an aggressively boring stage i think t2s spawning thenw ould be cool 🥺

[warm basalt]

jane you're early

[golden linden]

I always think that rock is a chest

[uneven bloom]

yeah that one is cool too i thinks

[echo idol]

426 visdyasduioasuwj

[warm basalt]

i prob got half that with my e8 vids on fs

[uneven bloom]

the game crashed before i could screenshot it so i had to lookat the run history

look at my awesome meteorite build

i was constantly procing atg on my own turrets

[cedar coral]

last 2 words and 1 letter were not needed

[cedar coral]

what loadout do you use

i might try and get into chef but his default loadout isnt really doing it for me

[uneven bloom]

i was using ice box, oil spill and glaze

[cedar coral]

oo I see

how did the game crash btw LOL

[golden linden]

eagle maxxing

lol be serious game

[vital lichen]

caw

[golden linden]

the game is in fact, not serious, holy

[echo idol]

wait i like this i think

[vital lichen]

is this vanilla?

[echo idol]

i wish

[vital lichen]

bummer

[echo idol]

in vanilla ror2 there is no horde to the horde shooter

[uneven bloom]

its just doing that cuz my modded install is fucked

[uneven bloom]

oh yeah this is a fun setting

[cedar coral]

ahh

[cedar coral]

lens printer

holy golden scar

[golden linden]

I didn't indulge, my whites that stage were great

[cedar coral]

fair point

what does that item that looks like a flip phone do

[golden linden]

where

[cedar coral]

I think its an ac item and I dont have ac yet

[cedar coral]

the one after atg

[uneven bloom]

i think sear, oil spill and glaze is probably my favorite chef loadout holy

[cedar coral]

oo yum

[cedar coral]

oil spill looks funnnnn as hell

[uneven bloom]

its so fun with sear

[cedar coral]

I may have to give it a shot

[uneven bloom]

you can ignite the oil puddles mid bouncing, and the new puddles you drop also get caught on fire

[cedar coral]

after spending years of my life playing drizzle to get an artifact

[cedar coral]

ooo

[uneven bloom]

if you throw down glaze nearby those puddles also get fire on them too

[cedar coral]

sounds spicy

[uneven bloom]

it is

[cedar coral]

pun intended

[uneven bloom]

i giggled

[cold flare]

when is the dev diary...

it would bee so awesome..

[golden linden]

I got irl jumpscared, said to friends on discord that a tricorn would be huge on alluvium because it's a hard tele

[raw silo]

Never, we shall suffer for all eternity. (If I had to guess, probably late next month or early june. I may be wrong, but I swear we normally get one within 2-ish months.)

[cold flare]

Not again. (Yeah that makes sense)

[vast river]

What do yall think about the next big content update being a dlc again?

[golden linden]

I prefer to not think about it lol

[cold flare]

I dont really care personally.

[fresh idol]

i don't really care

i would rather if this game stopped having big updates and they just fixed bugs and rebalanced some dated abilities

and leave as it is

[brittle osprey]

Is there anyway to save drones from the void enemies or are you just not supposed to have drones after a few loops lmao?

[fresh idol]

just buy them again or don't go near them

[golden linden]

drones are easily rebuyable, bar tc280

[fresh idol]

i would rather that since sotv

[cold flare]

The game fed me for a really long time during and after early access for its original price. I'm happy to pay more if it means more risk of rain 2. Although it is going towards Randy, so, fuck me.

[vast river]

Why tho? I would want a mod workshop for the base game if they stopped updating

[brittle osprey]

Is there a mod that highlights broken drones? cause that's my main problem

[fresh idol]

because the game is already done lol i'm pretty happy with the DLCs and updates

[brittle osprey]

i just dont realize they get broken

[fresh idol]

also i don't really care for workshop support when we already have a pretty good whats the name?
mod browser? r2modman is awesome

[uneven bloom]

this, risk of rain 2 was a finished game ever since it properly released n shit. it doesn't need more and more content

[vast river]

I love this game so much but i do think i would stop playing without new updates bc idk i feel like sometimes it can be repetitive

[echo idol]

i dont mind more and more content more cool videogame is more cool videogame

i like cool videogame

[golden linden]

nope, but drones dying does a very distinct sound

[cold flare]

i too, like cool videogame.

[echo idol]

i wish they would polish cool videogame

but i like cool videogame

[uneven bloom]

the issue with them adding more content is they're never fuckin gonna polish it ever again

[vast river]

I had a lot of trouble trying to mod ror2 and thats purely a skill issue from my part

[echo idol]

make enough of a fuss and they will

[fresh idol]

i get it but like our money was very well spent tho

[uneven bloom]

they refuse to touch older content and even AC is now too old to get more than a singular fuckin patch, absolutely ridiculous

[golden linden]

it is ok to stop playing a videogame

[uneven bloom]

sear oil spill glaze is such a fun combo

[fresh idol]

new content is not even making me play the game as much as i was in my golden ror2 era where i was playing like 6 hours a day back when there was only SOTV

[vast river]

Yeah, i played for one week and decided to buy all the dlcs

[uneven bloom]

this

[vast river]

Yeah but leaving behind something you spend so much time on and loved a lot is hard

At least for me

[golden linden]

you're not leaving it behind

[fresh idol]

yeah that too ig

[uneven bloom]

the game doesn't need to constantly get updates so you don't get bored. just stop playing it for a bit and then play something else

[cold flare]

Only thing I really want them to patch is some survivors, most content is fine, besides voidling, fuck voidling.

[golden linden]

it's on steam library, you can open it when you feel like it again

[uneven bloom]

like ror2 is not a live service game

[golden linden]

it's a toy to play with

[vast river]

If i stop playing then yeah i would

[uneven bloom]

ok but you can play something else and once you're not bored of ror2 anymore go play it again. i did this

[vast river]

Thats me of course

[golden linden]

the allegory doesn't work because you can have it back any time you want

it's not going anywhere

[uneven bloom]

i put in 600 hours on it, got bored, played other things and now i've got over 1000 hours. people do this and it works

[fluid iris]

when do yall think the dlc release date will be announced

[uneven bloom]

there is not One videogame ever, believe it or not

[cold flare]

either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow

[golden linden]

like a month before release if history is to follow

[broken jacinth]

Mid to late May probably

[raw silo]

Rework blight man, just worse than poison in most scenarios it feels like.
Not a change in gameplay, nor in moveset.
Just an active self-nerf.

[broken jacinth]

Ignore my answer then...

[cold flare]

give captain the other half of his kit in hidden realms

buff taser

[golden linden]

unbuff taser

[raw silo]

Alternate secondary too. (Please i never use it it's so bad like 98% of the time)

[quartz umbra]

No >:]

[echo idol]

i think what hurts ror2 from being as replayable as it could be is that the early game is such a slog

[broken jacinth]

They can't really do that

[vast river]

The thing for me is that i love something when its new for me, and get obsessed with it until i get bored of doing the same stuff
Thats why i wouldn't want the game to stop updating

[echo idol]

and balance is kinda janked across the board but early game

[weary violet]

Hi, do you play with the Artifact Command? I just started playing with some friends, but we don't know if it's a bit of a cheat or not? And also, where can we find builds, etc.?

[cold flare]

And why pray tell.

[quartz umbra]

Sometimes

[cold flare]

Artifact of Command is good for achievement hunting but tbh I find it really boring.

[golden linden]

no I don't play with command, it's also not cheating

[echo idol]

friend tried getting into ror2 and dropped it cause every time he booted up a run it was followed by 10 minutes of staring blank faced at the screen

[cedar coral]

what did voidling do lol

[echo idol]

and another 10 minutes of the game thinking of becoming more active

[fresh idol]

in this chat, people really don't like playing with the artifact on besides achievement hunting bc it makes the game too easy. it's just a god run simulator

it's not cheating bc it's a mechanic inside the gagme

[broken jacinth]

Cuz story wise the UES is not gonna fulfill captains request to send down a beacon of time is currently not moving (in the bazaar) or he's not even on petrichor V anymore (void)

[echo idol]

then by stage 4 and 5 then things happen

[cold flare]

HE'S SO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING

[uneven bloom]

you can get acheivements with it on. the developers don't think it's cheating

[quartz umbra]

I HATE VOIDLING

[raw silo]

Just put the pylons ON the crab thing and your problem is solved.

[cold flare]

ok but have you considered that removing ONE character's second half of their kit because of lore is fucking lame

[cedar coral]

I still got loads to do like beat false son on monsoon and get good artifacts and skins and alt skills

[raw silo]

Lore should not overtake gameply in an optional gamemode, imo.

[cedar coral]

less emphasis on the skills because im not getting alt skills that im never gonna use like those shitty mobile turrets or diablo strike

[raw silo]

You get it.

[quartz umbra]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I USE THOSE TWO OFTEN

[broken jacinth]

Oh no and that's what makes ror great - it doesn't shove the story in your face

[cedar coral]

damn bro really loves mobile turrets

[broken jacinth]

I just don't know how they'd fix captain not having those two abilities

[cedar coral]

mobile turrets are trash and diablo strike is slightly better but still trash

[echo idol]

give him those two abilities

[quartz umbra]

When I’m not doing eclipse I love em

[uneven bloom]

he should have them in simulacrum

[echo idol]

problem solved

[cedar coral]

its like wasting your time trying to get arti alt primary

you're never going to use it

[uneven bloom]

being realistic doesn't matter there specifically, it's a simulation

[cedar coral]

give him an alt secondary

[broken jacinth]

But Hopoo clearly had a reason to not to and I believe it's for lore reasons

[uneven bloom]

captain does not need an alt secondary

[cedar coral]

lore coming before gameplay is stupid

[raw silo]

They could make an update that doesn't rework persay, but gives old characters new moves.
Give captain alternates that DO work in those places and gamemodes.
Easiest fix imo, besides just...letting him use his moves anywhere like a normal survivor.

[golden linden]

all arti alts can be gottem in like 5min at once

[echo idol]

yeah it was for lore reasons and its a stupid ass decision thats easily revertable

[cedar coral]

his secondary kinda falls off after like stage 3

[quartz umbra]

I often use caps secondary

[echo idol]

dee mentioned it and also said it wasnt their greatest idea

[cedar coral]

thats probably because there's no alt secondary pal

[quartz umbra]

What…

[quartz umbra]

True

[golden linden]

2 minutes, sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojam95JjACo

[cedar coral]

next time I loop

im gonna get artifact of swarms

and artifact of kin

so i can get chef alt utility

[quartz umbra]

:(

[raw silo]

Infinite blind pests.

[cedar coral]

NO

[quartz umbra]

It took me like 30 minutes…

[cedar coral]

holy chibi robo pfp

[raw silo]

Sorry, I cursed you already.

[cedar coral]

legendary

[raw silo]

Holy chibi robo knower

[golden linden]

that's ok, just giving info

[raw silo]

Legendary. (Thanks btw)

[cedar coral]

my brother just another me

[cedar coral]

anytime bucko

[quartz umbra]

My life has been wasted…

[raw silo]

From legendary to bucko is bonkers

[cedar coral]

lmfao

[golden linden]

can't waste your life because you can't gain life, so you're fine

[cedar coral]

keeping it casual fr

[uneven bloom]

i don't think people get that captain doesn't get to use half of his kit in hidden realms because it is meant to make him more difficult. he IS an old man that struggles without his nukes and it is intentionally meant to make him harder against bosses just like how it's an intentional decision for the lost in tboi to die if you lose your mantle in a curse room without any way out. you don't have to like the decision but i personally would not get rid of it because i don't think it's a bad decision

[raw silo]

Give him a walking cane in hidden realms.

[cedar coral]

all jokes aside having a prosthetic shotgun is fucking sick

[golden linden]

sick old man

[cedar coral]

true

[quartz umbra]

Hell yeah

[terse fossil]

really nice mul-t run, mithrix got melted

the more I play MUL-T the more fun he gets

[cedar coral]

nailgun power saw user?

[uneven bloom]

it's not just a lore thing, it is meant to give his character more identity. it's just like how drifter can't generate junk as easily against bosses (and how tinker is rendered near useless while fighting them)

[cedar coral]

did you use power saw on mithrix

[quartz umbra]

Hheheheehe

[broken jacinth]

He is so peak

[arctic seal]

Because jackpot taste better then coin

[terse fossil]

on e2 i got a nice caffeinator build now i got a lot of nice void items

[golden linden]

bingo

[terse fossil]

no i used nailgun

[placid quail]

Come on, man. Those hidden realm enemies are lying, dogfaced pony soldiers..

[terse fossil]

ye i don't play mul-t much and my friend who got golden e8 recommended me this build and lowkey it's working on me

[raw silo]

I don't disagree with your reasoning, nor the reasoning behind hopoo's decision.
I do think that it is rather unnecessary to basically gut half of a character for this purpose, however. It's not "challenge," it's just unfun.

[quartz umbra]

Me with the boring rebar

[cedar coral]

someone earlier told me that there should be a lunar item or artifact that that increases temp item duration by 10x but all items are temporary

[placid quail]

Wacky fact

Rebar originally worked backwards. You had to charge it before firing.

[terse fossil]

also equipments on mul-t are bugged cuz i picked up a capacitor at stage 3 and it disappeared, then it showed up in the game summary again LMAO

[cedar coral]

EWWW

[quartz umbra]

Yep

[broken jacinth]

Basically egocentrism but you get nothing when you lose the item

Harder egocentrism run

[placid quail]

Also the shotgun burst from the nail gun originally happened at the start instead of the end

[cedar coral]

yeah I picked up a glowing meteorite with both equipment slots full and it vanished

[terse fossil]

if i had to guess alloyed collective messed it up?

[cedar coral]

exactly

[placid quail]

You get depression

[cedar coral]

for those who tink monsoon is too easy yet again

[terse fossil]

cuz of the solus amalgamator boss item whose name i forgot

[quartz umbra]

Idk, did not play mul-t much before ac

[placid quail]

Functional Coupler 🤓

[cedar coral]

seeing clips of pc players on hahahaha difficulty has taught me that the console bug with spawning is in fact real

[golden linden]

what bug

[quartz umbra]

I also don’t have ac despite how much I love drones

[terse fossil]

thanks nerdgineer main

[uneven bloom]

i do think it's necessary. captain is already one of the strongest characters in the game with shock permastunning enemies, him passively deleting projectiles, etc. it is meant to be his one big drawback

[broken jacinth]

I always wanted a drone update and here I am 5(?) months after release without it