ror2-discussion

[vast tinsel]

well yeah

[cedar coral]

I would just put "in exactly the way I intend" at the end of each wish

[vast tinsel]

thats why i limited it to 100 dollars per day

[coarse merlin]

The wording isn't the problem, it's that it's half a wish
The genie grants half of any wish

[vast tinsel]

and not like 1000 dollars per day
not only would the bank get suspicious but also id prefer my economy not to be crumbling down because of me

[cedar coral]

half a wish? why would you want half a wish

[coarse merlin]

The genie isnt particularly malicious, it can only do half

[steady vector]

To figure out how to kill an immortal

[coarse merlin]

Cause that's all the genie can muster, it's a new genie, fresh out of genie school

[vast tinsel]

what if i ask him to grant it twice

[coarse merlin]

Well you only get three half wishes obviously

[molten hound]

what happens if you start to remember? your eternal heaven starts to falter? you lose what would have made you human?.....but you arent human, not anymore, you're a memory, playing over, and over, and over, and over. when you fully remember, you lose that too.. and you are nothing.

[vast tinsel]

so id get 1 1/2 wishes

[coarse merlin]

You could ask for two computers but odds are you are getting two halves of computers
And they're probably gonna be the same half

[sonic tangle]

i tell the genie i wish for risk of rain 6

[coarse merlin]

No, three half wishes
You can't put em together to make a whole

[steady vector]

Who cares dude. Id stop thinking by then

[vast tinsel]

what if i ask for particularly the left and right side

[coarse merlin]

This is the correct answer

[coarse merlin]

You lose out on the middle

[molten hound]

a HUSK.

[steady vector]

Yeah?

[cedar coral]

just wish for 2 million

[coarse merlin]

Or the bottom or top, or half of whatever the thing does

[vast tinsel]

wait what if i just ask for 2 computers

[molten hound]

what if i ask for double cheese burger with a side of 2 large fry

[coarse merlin]

Two of the same halves

[steady vector]

Both have no ram

[cedar coral]

actually no a million is too suspicious

wish for 1 million

[sonic tangle]

i ask for another genie and he summons a genie which grants quarters of a wish

[coarse merlin]

In cash? I have bad news for you

[tawny pilot]

if i had limitless shapeshifting i could do cool shit

[cedar coral]

hell nah he'd just cut it in half literally

[coarse merlin]

Absolutely

[steady vector]

Youd be the dude from scissor 7

[cedar coral]

to my bank account

[vast tinsel]

all your notes are perfectly halved

[molten hound]

like turning into jack black and singing lava chicken

[cedar coral]

lol

[molten hound]

HOLY SHIT YOU KNOW BALL

[steady vector]

YEAH I DO

[tawny pilot]

you're gonna have to explain that one

[coarse merlin]

That's pretty foolproof

But if the number in your account was only the top half of the number it would be really funny

[vast tinsel]

which luckily for you isnt a problem
as long as minimum 50% of a bill is intact you can trade it with a bank to get a new one

id recommend not doing that all at once tho

[sonic tangle]

thats still pretty good

[cedar coral]

that would be so irritating

[steady vector]

Chinese cartoon about a dude who sucks at killing people but he wants to be an assassin so he just rage baits and trolls with shape shifting

[coarse merlin]

It's just "(current balance) + (top half of value("

And no one will accept the money because cmon

[tawny pilot]

neat

[molten hound]

what if i wish for 2 rootbeers

[steady vector]

Also he can control scissors

[vast tinsel]

nah

[coarse merlin]

Two top halves of rootbeers
It done all spilled out

[vast tinsel]

split the digits in half

[molten hound]

NOOO MY ROOTBER 💔

[vast tinsel]

10,000,000 becomes 1,000 and 0000

[tawny pilot]

i can't say i'd ragebait or kill people but i'd do really cool shit

[restive pawn]

Swanpified mizzle is awesome

[sonic tangle]

correct

[coarse merlin]

Or it becomes

Buncha Mario lookin hills

[steady vector]

What if I wished for an atom. Would I explode

[restive pawn]

Also I just realised I'll need to do a heretic run again if I wanna complete everything on my PS4 save sughhhy

[vast tinsel]

that wouldnt even register

[sonic tangle]

yeah!

[steady vector]

Cool

[restive pawn]

Seekers of the storm was fire lowk it's very underappreciated I feel

[coarse merlin]

It gets tacked on at the end, current balance + so and so

[vast tinsel]

youd probably be arrested on the spot

[steady vector]

If I wished for minecraft would I just get bedrock edition

[sonic tangle]

you just get mine

[coarse merlin]

Craft

[steady vector]

So bedrock edition. Got it

[vast tinsel]

so id get infinitecraft

[coarse merlin]

Fair enough

[vast tinsel]

which is a free game

[coarse merlin]

That's free though

[tawny pilot]

Probably not due to the immensely small scale of such a thing

[vast tinsel]

thats the point

[coarse merlin]

Depends on the atom, pick an element

[vast tinsel]

actinium

[sonic tangle]

baller pick

im more of an oganesson guy myself

[coarse merlin]

You're getting a copernicium ion

[steady vector]

Yeah but then if I wished for two atoms (getting two halves) I could be like the bear on the Zheleznogorsk flag

[vast tinsel]

sob

[vast tinsel]

wait hold on
hydrogen

[tawny pilot]

i'd give whatever isotope of an atom has exactly half of the neutrons, protons, and electrons of the given atom

[coarse merlin]

Raw Proton

[sonic tangle]

ok what if i just wish for a proton

[steady vector]

What if I wished to add 2 pounds of weight to all neutrons

[coarse merlin]

Then you can have your atom

It might just take all neutrons+electrons though

[vast tinsel]

hydrogen has one proton and no neutrons

[coarse merlin]

Then you have a proton ball
Enjoy

[vast tinsel]

and also one electron

[coarse merlin]

Electron counts, it's charge

Even if it isn't technically mass
Half the charge definitely qualifies as half

[vast tinsel]

electrons are massless tho

[sonic tangle]

not technically

[steady vector]

So let's change that

[vast tinsel]

or well
so small that its irrelevant

[tawny pilot]

What I'm saying is that if i were the genie i'd give them the isotope of whatever is half the atom they asked for

[sonic tangle]

yeah lets increasw the mass of an electron by a gram

[vast tinsel]

oh yeah lemme go find the mass of an electron

[coarse merlin]

In all these scenarios nothing is happening by the way

[steady vector]

Hell yeah

[vast tinsel]

like fuck off

[coarse merlin]

Except this one, half the electrons go up by a gram

Fortunately the odds of anything on earth being hit are hilariously low

So we're making it out of this one

[tawny pilot]

how would giving electrons mass work

[sonic tangle]

phew

[vast tinsel]

also wait thats not half technically
because the weight is different

and size

[sonic tangle]

what if it gave them all half a gram

[tawny pilot]

how would that effect something

[sonic tangle]

then we are fucked

[coarse merlin]

The charge of the electron contributes to half of the atoms electromagnetism

[steady vector]

What if I wished for an identical earth to replace the current earth. Would half just be gone

[vast tinsel]

plus hydrogen if its one proton and one electron has a neutral charge

[tawny pilot]

how about inverting the inverse square law

[coarse merlin]

Half of the new earth comes and half of the old earth goes

Nothing changes

[steady vector]

Oooooh fuck yeah

[tawny pilot]

get more radiation the further you are from a source

[vast tinsel]

its half of the item tho
not half of the charge

[sonic tangle]

how do you get half of that

[coarse merlin]

Not anymore
KABOOM
Is what I would say if it wasn't a single atom

[coarse merlin]

Says who
It's just half a wish

[tawny pilot]

suddenly Chernobyl's seeming a lot safer

[main hornet]

A billion bananas too

[vast tinsel]

a lone proton is just a hydrogen cation

technically im still getting a full hydrogen

[coarse merlin]

Bananas Georg, who eats 3 trillion bananas a year, was an outlier and should not have been counted

[tawny pilot]

i mean you'd have to condense the potassium a LOT for it to serve as any meaningful protection

[coarse merlin]

But it's missing half the sauce that makes it true

Are hydrogen ions still flammable

[main hornet]

Just add more bananas

[tawny pilot]

or just like, invert gravity

[main hornet]

Everything would turn to dust instantly

[vast tinsel]

yeah

[tawny pilot]

everything starts flying into the heavens

[vast tinsel]

they are

[main hornet]

Wait gravity not magnetism

[tawny pilot]

shit or maybe the ability to break the universal speed limit and go past light speed

or maybe quarter the speed of light

[main hornet]

Setting the speed of light to 40 km/h

[tawny pilot]

or simply infinite

[main hornet]

Can't be infinite

If the speed was truly infinite there just wouldn't be any light

There would be nothing

[tawny pilot]

fuck it then 999,999,999,999,999,999km/h

[vast tinsel]

are you enrico pucci

[main hornet]

That's slower than currently i think

Like way slower

[tawny pilot]

Almost actually no just make it a quintillion km/h

[main hornet]

Still slower probably

[vast tinsel]

make it km/s and itll be faster

[tawny pilot]

that's a good point

[sonic tangle]

make it light years per microsecond idk

anyway

[main hornet]

Then it wouldn't be light years anymore

[tawny pilot]

1,000,000,000,000,000,000 km/s

[vast tinsel]

never mind thats way faster anyways

light is only about a billion kilometers per hour

[sonic tangle]

lets take the original light years since thats a defined number anyway

anyway

david attenborough is about to turn 100

[tawny pilot]

If i make it a quintillion km/s it makes travel to other planets faster for me

cause you know i'm gonna have to do some cool shit to start innovating beyond what was thought possible

[vast tinsel]

fair

or you run into the planet at a quintillion km/s because you're so fast that you cant percieve where the planet is

and probably vaporize everything on said planet

[vast tinsel]

and probably the solar system around it

[mild cloak]

is it risk of rain 2 because there's a risk of rain or is that just a cool title

[sage python]

both

the rain was added because it was a cool title

[mild cloak]

risk of 2

[fallow sedge]

Its ok 😔

[slim goblet]

Do mobile turrets benefit from attack speed?

[sage python]

lol?????? 😭

yup thats me alright

[somber wharf]

2 risk 2 rain

[winter spindle]

Anyway remove Void Fiend

[slim idol]

what did i just come into

[mild cloak]

anyway remove Rex

[fickle idol]

ive been in this discord for like six years without sending a message but i found a charged perforator printer for i think the first time ever

[abstract dawn]

insane deaths

[north jungle]

i remember I was messing around with debug toolkit and on stage 2 I got a charged perf printer

[waxen geyser]

one more left and its the prismatic trial 💔

[fickle idol]

on stage 2 is wild

at least this was on 2nd loop

[north jungle]

I was genuinely so ticked off because it had to happen while I was dicking around as a scavenger

and not a real run

[pearl summit]

I've seen cherf printers stage 1 before, it's the worst

[north jungle]

lie.

[pearl summit]

Shattered Abodes can have boss printers

Unfortunately

[north jungle]

oh of course its shattered abodes

[bold plover]

I know I’ll sound like one of the many broken tape recorders but does anyone have any new info on crossplay or is the bridge crossed now?

[north jungle]

never happening

[haughty crag]

Commando wobble edit

[bold plover]

Damn..

[north jungle]

sorry 😢

[north jungle]

proof btw

i mean technically it wasn’t stage 2

i force loaded this stage

[fickle idol]

LMFAO

cursed image

[fickle idol]

is it the only stage 1 that can spawn overgrowns

[north jungle]

im playing as solus heart here

[pearl summit]

Yes

[north jungle]

but shart is unique in that they’re like the only enemy in the game to break the philosophy the devs had

where every enemy is technically formatted like a playable character

because shart just doesn’t fuckin work without their stage and even then still not as a spawned entity or played as

[pearl summit]

Shart

[fickle idol]

if i had a nickel for every time a character from one of my favorite games was called shart

[north jungle]

the mods pinned it

you HAVE to call it shart

sorry I don’t make the rules

[north jungle]

which I don’t mind to be frank

because it means we can have a boss that has more than 4 moves

mithrix and false son also do but never more than 4 at the same time

[molten hound]

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sevom naht sah taht ssob a aveh nac ew snaem ti esuaceb

emit emas eht ta 4 naht erom reven tub od osla nos eslaf dna xirhtim

[pearl summit]

You don't seem like a particularly evil warlock

[acoustic monolith]

Hallowed concepts devblog when

[onyx otter]

what are the requirments for lunar frog spawn at the teleporter at the moon

[floral bane]

Gup

[terse ferry]

kill mithrix

have sotv

[leaden quest]

Quite shrimple actually

[pure axle]

not very clampicated

[terse fossil]

🪞

[haughty crag]

meow

[leaden quest]

mraw

[rugged cipher]

furries

[digital timber]

Guys, I bought RoRR

[terse ferry]

frisk o' frain returns

[round sandal]

Meowwwww

[tawny pilot]

i mean if the speed of light is increased to 1 quintillion km/s then it's also reaching my eyes at that speed, though it likely won't help much if i've already crashed

[tawny pilot]

prrrp

[unborn forum]

yall should i get clover or drifter first

[round sandal]

Mmmmmm meow

[tawny pilot]

i mean you can get both in one run so

[clever seal]

pov: monsoon

[main hornet]

The fog is coming

[dawn haven]

weather

[still torrent]

Is acrid a healer

[tawny pilot]

not exactly

[still torrent]

🙁

[tawny pilot]

acrid has skills for self heal but nothing for others

[vital depot]

he can heal himself with the final hit of his m1 but that’s the full extent of it

Does Bite heal? Can’t remember

[tawny pilot]

and alt secondary

[vital depot]

alright yeah that too

[still torrent]

But acrid is the best ever

[vital depot]

If you want a “healer” character then you’d be looking to Seeker

[tawny pilot]

i mean acrid can heal with deskplant

[still torrent]

Is acrid a boy or girl

[vital depot]

But she’s still very offensively oriented with her healing too, kinda has to be to be able to hold up in solo runs

[tawny pilot]

yes

[still torrent]

Okay I guess

[vital depot]

I think the game refers to Acrid as a he

[still torrent]

Okay lil guy

[vital depot]

Nevermind i guess Acrid is an “it”

[tawny pilot]

I was about to say that lol

[vital depot]

well it seems to be inconsistent actually

[tawny pilot]

I just went over to the wiki to check

[tawny pilot]

nonbinary space creature!?!?!?

[vital depot]

I looked up his moon victory message and Acrid then is an “it” but the logbook says “he”
i guess two things can be true

[tawny pilot]

true

[haughty crag]

@round sandal I installed dead lock today

[nocturne peak]

I wanna see fully animated shorts featuring Survivor teams

Like Artificer and Seeker

Huntress and Railgunner

Loader and Acrid

Engineer and Rex

Chef and Mul-T

Plus Captain and Commando/Void Fiend

Possibilities man…

[random island]

The two goats one 1 team

[nocturne peak]

Loader and Artificer could work too as a brains and brawn kinda team

Mercenary and Bandit as bounty hunters

[vital depot]

Merc and Huntress for that angle

Huntress’s log entry is her hunting and killing a bounty

[nocturne peak]

That works too

[nocturne peak]

That’s true almost forgot bout that

[random island]

Freeze plus punch combo goes hard

[vital depot]

Loader and Drifter

[nocturne peak]

Imagine Loader grabs the Ice Javelin and stabs a mf with it

[random island]

Too much brainless smack

[nocturne peak]

Or Loader swings Artificer around at a Vagrant and blows it up with Ion Charge

This is just so sick

Why hasn’t anyone done ts yet????

Or at least pitched it

[random island]

They did it's called "multiplayer"

[nocturne peak]

They ain’t do this

[random island]

Sure

[nocturne peak]

Besides it would be sick advertisement

How do I contact the devs or the ROR team

I wanna pitch this to them

[prisma sundial]

I wonder how a risk of rain movie would go with all the different items

[dense dust]

risk of rain movie would be so tuff

[terse ferry]

feel like a ror movie would be more character driven than anything

[prisma sundial]

True

[fallow sedge]

I like to think a ror movie wouldn't focus on survivors

I would like to see more of an environmental and culture driven thing

[rigid elbow]

risk of rain documentary

[prisma sundial]

Who would win, A god who curated a planet for other creatures

Or

Some guy with a gun and some garbage

[sage python]

acrid is he/it

[terse ferry]

"acrid, is that it?"
"yes, its name is acrid"
"no, does it go by it?"

[prisma sundial]

The it the it the it

[sage python]

it wouldnt surprise me if acrid is a he because hopoo forgot

[sick widget]

acrid is

our saviour

[still torrent]

Why is acrid the best character

[placid quail]

“Your life ends roughly 100 seconds from now”

[low wind]

crid is referred to as an adam subject in returns log which can be interpreted as male sex but returns log also uses it

[still torrent]

Erm

What the sigma

[sick widget]

It's well rounded and fun to play

[still torrent]

:0

[placid quail]

“The item RNG sucks in this run “

Commando: 😭

Acrid: 🤨

[sage python]

commando is fine with bad rng tbf

huntress struggles tho

[sonic tangle]

drifter:

[sonic tangle]

eeehh

huntress needs less speed but more damage than average to succeed

so its a give and take

she can survive in a cope run

[sage python]

no one really needs much speed

[placid quail]

But the game said she has high damage

[sonic tangle]

then huntress needs no speed

[sage python]

i mean slidemando doesnt really either

[sonic tangle]

i dunno if anyone particularly struggles more than average with bad items

[placid quail]

More speed

More speed

Give me MORE

[sonic tangle]

i think lacking horizontality in the air holds it back

funny enough rollmando doesnt have this issue

[sage python]

you pretty much got a double jump i dont think thats an issue

[placid quail]

If we financially audit onett we will find donations from Big Roll

[sonic tangle]

does any survivor even struggle more than average with bad items

i know some survivors are great at using whatever they have

or dont need a certain category of item

[sage python]

flurry huntress specifically is probs worst off

[sonic tangle]

possibly

[placid quail]

Flurry has the worst early game

[sage python]

double saw retool

[sonic tangle]

but idk she can hold out very well in cope scenarios

[sonic tangle]

ok but this is like the worst survivor period

[sage python]

you cant even bank on double equips woth good luck

[sonic tangle]

i can still list what survivors can still thrive with bad rng

but not any survivors rhat suffer from it more than average

[sage python]

huntress is the only survivor where ive been outscaled, she has great evasiveness but if you get horrible luck its kinda game over

[sonic tangle]

she can push through better than other survivors i think

[sage python]

got to abyssal depths with the only damage item being scythe lol

[sage python]

mendings had higher heal output than my damage 😭

[sonic tangle]

damn

[vapid dagger]

i would agree there
she's fast enough to abuse low time strats and has more than enough mobility within combat to never actually be in much danger

even when she starts to struggle to kill she kites extremely well

[sage python]

what type of low time strats

[vapid dagger]

low time strats as in just not worrying much about the quality of items and just grabbing as many as you can as fast as you can

[sonic tangle]

if huntress is in a cope run she can absolutely survive

[sage python]

gotcha

[sonic tangle]

at least better than someone like mult

[sage python]

i dont think there are any survivors who cant

[vapid dagger]

mul-t copes a bit less often
but he does cope and when it happens hes way more screwed than huntress

hes forced to take hits and doesnt have the same ability to escape bad situations

theres a balance that needs to be struck between a character's ability to avoid danger and kill targets and i think huntress strikes that balance a bit better than mul-t
mul-t honestly could get a base damage raise and hed probably feel a bit better overall

it also just kind of bothers me that hes got a lower base damage for no real reason

[sonic tangle]

yeah

i feel like mult is the worst survivor am i crazy

like power wise

maybe not the best loadouts on mult but even then idk

rebar retool is obviously good

[vapid dagger]

i dont like calling him the worst bc rex still has an entire gameplan that is just not suited for cope whatsoever but yeah he has a very rough time when things dont go his way and mostly feels fine bc hes just so tanky

[sonic tangle]

hnm

[vapid dagger]

i really like playing rex as well
and mul-t is do also think is balanced mostly around "the average run" fairly well

[sonic tangle]

well no one is weak

but maybe the least strong?

[vapid dagger]

well mul-t has the most consistent power output i think with a bit of a shakier survivability

[sage python]

im still going huntress because when it comes to it anyone can circle strafe and thats often enough

[vapid dagger]

circle strafing only does so much in cope

[sonic tangle]

i dont know about huntress being the worst

[sage python]

im not saying shes the worst

[sonic tangle]

im still gonna say huntress > mando

[vapid dagger]

and eventually you need the ability to gtfo

[steady vector]

Mornin

[vapid dagger]

default mando absolutely

[sage python]

in the scenario of real bad items she struggles most i think

[vapid dagger]

tactical dive is pain

[sonic tangle]

i disagree

since in a cope situation huntress really can just live long enough to salvage the situatioj

[vapid dagger]

she does end up snowballing pretty hard with bad items but at the same time has more than enough options to stay alive longer than thevast majority of characters

[jaunty swallow]

Rex will can shrug off near fatal blows indeed

[vapid dagger]

she may have a low base hp but she gets hit so infrequently that her 90 hp often feels like 3x that

[sage python]

she can stay alive but usually survivability isnt my concern if im doing that bad

[sonic tangle]

ive had situations where as long as i can kill the tp boss of the stage i can salvage a cope run

[vapid dagger]

ive had situations where as long as i can charge the teleporter without dying i can salvage a cope run

dont even need to kill the boss

[sonic tangle]

i mean you kinda do

[vapid dagger]

afterwards yeah but charging the teleporter stops enemy spawns

so you just clean up after that

[sonic tangle]

yeah

[sage python]

imo she struggles at picking out mending elites which is a big one

[sonic tangle]

which is also why e2 is actually impactful

[sonic tangle]

it makes doing this a lot hadder

[sonic tangle]

ballista helps a lot for sure

[sage python]

it does yeah but then theres the orbs

[sonic tangle]

dont orbs heal flat

[vapid dagger]

you abuse the enemy cap with pacifist strats and charge the teleporter by kiting around and doubling back to the teleporter while enemies are far away from it and then clean up once its fully charged

[vapid dagger]

its a flat 80

[sage python]

most of my playtime is with ballista although i do use arrow rain now

[sonic tangle]

huntress is great at that

[sonic tangle]

yeah so very unimpactful past like stage 2

[vapid dagger]

situations like that are also why i prefer arrow rain

[sonic tangle]

its just a free onkill proc

[vapid dagger]

its safer to use, slows enemies down, keeps them grouped up, and helps me actually hit the ones i want in a crowd

[sonic tangle]

fair

ballista does more in a succeeding run

[sage python]

if its a horrible item run arrow rain probably performs better

[sonic tangle]

cope runs where youre swarmed inherently let arrow rain do more because enemy hordes

[vapid dagger]

when huntress is pushed to her limits arrow rain is more likely to be of use than ballista from my experience

[sage python]

helps when proc isnt a large consideration lol

[sonic tangle]

the upsides of ballista are a bit less relevant too

[sage python]

aoe is nice and she only really has glaive and rain

[sonic tangle]

hey thats more than mando does

[vapid dagger]

glaive is a poor aoe attack

[sage python]

ehh

[vapid dagger]

commando still has phase round

but yeah its not much

[sonic tangle]

yeah

nades also exist and help in a cope run

[sage python]

and nade but falloff exists

[vapid dagger]

not as much as phase round

[sage python]

it can work out but its barely something

[sonic tangle]

probably more than suppressive fire though

[vapid dagger]

and suppressive stun/ranged accuracy helps more in cope

[sonic tangle]

eehhh

i dont think so

[sage python]

it defo do

[vapid dagger]

you can also sprint during suppressive

it has saved me from a great many gups

[sonic tangle]

stun is nice but i would prefer tossing nades into crowds to thin them

[vapid dagger]

frame 1 stun is really good

[sage python]

either secondary covers that well enough i think

[sonic tangle]

phase blast is very eh in a cope

[sage python]

depending on playstyle

[rugged cipher]

guh

[vapid dagger]

phase blast is nearly useless in cope

[sonic tangle]

it doesnt have extra benefits and is only helpful if the cope run consists of enemies constantly running into your face

[vapid dagger]

or maybe in an on kill build

[sonic tangle]

which is sometimes but not always

[vapid dagger]

you can find a target decently far away from the rest and just melt it

but i find picking off low hp targets in a crowd with phase round is still arguably better at that

[sage python]

its not great but it offers enough that i would rather keep my stun

[vapid dagger]

the problem with grenades in cope is that they are far too hard to control

[sonic tangle]

how does loader do in a cope

[vapid dagger]

actually terribly

she still has kiting abilities but her opportunities to attack become so infrequent that her damage output becomes next to non existent

[placid quail]

I hate grenades!

[sage python]

i like both specials

[sonic tangle]

they could both be buffed

[vapid dagger]

i want to like grenades more

but suppressive fire scales much better and stays more relevant for its utility

[steady sapphire]

Coop or cope?

[placid quail]

Back in my day, suppressive fire didn’t adjust its projectile count based on attack speed

[vapid dagger]

cope

[steady sapphire]

What’s that

[sage python]

i dont think suppressive fire really needs anything

[placid quail]

Cope = bad I think

In this context

[jaunty swallow]

When a run takes too long on a stage and scaling goes haywire

[vapid dagger]

when the run is so bad you start to wonder if its even possible to survive

[sonic tangle]

its still really underwhelmjng later on

[steady sapphire]

I see

[sage python]

when game is evil and feels like the first 10 rounds or so waves of simulacrum

[sage python]

i disagree with that tbf, its pretty good later on

it retains utility and has a higher firerate cap

feels p consistent

[vapid dagger]

cope equates to "seemingly hopeless"

[reef stump]

I haven’t been able to play ror2 in more than a month I’m feining

[sage python]

^ only relevant post loop usually

[sonic tangle]

its utility is like ok

[vapid dagger]

it also has a better accuracy at range

[sonic tangle]

yeah its fine but kinda just whatever

[vapid dagger]

and technically you can sprint during it

[sage python]

im curious why yer specifying later on

/gen

[sonic tangle]

using it vs not using it on like stages 4 and 5 is not that different

[vapid dagger]

there are a decent number of enemies that have stun immunity

[sage python]

ah ok

[vapid dagger]

if youre struggling with parents suppressive fire is not going to help much

[sonic tangle]

good out of context sentence

[jaunty swallow]

Parents straight up just going to tp to you

[vapid dagger]

gups tho
gups sit the fuck down when you use suppressive well

[jaunty swallow]

Honorable mention: brass contraptions

[vapid dagger]

technically stunnable
attack however remains uninterrupted

[sonic tangle]

*every boss

[vapid dagger]

elder lems are a joke when you have stun

[jaunty swallow]

Still scary af

VERY scary

[sonic tangle]

elder lemurian moment

[vapid dagger]

phase round is also still absolutely amazing during cope for spiking wisps

one of the most deceptively good at scaling abilities

[sonic tangle]

cope?

[vapid dagger]

uh

hes weird

[jaunty swallow]

Pray

[vapid dagger]

his turrets still are great bc they become excellent aggro draw

[main hornet]

[sonic tangle]

there are certain enemies that can consistently nuke turrets

no matter their placement

[vapid dagger]

they still buy a bit of time

[sage python]

engi cope runs dont exist, they arent real

merely a fabrication

[main hornet]

the hell is a cope run

[vapid dagger]

but it starts to come down to mines and bubble shield usage more than anything

[sonic tangle]

yeah they are (i hit 3 shrines and the node in prestige on stage 3 at 30 minutes)

oo yeah mines

[placid quail]

It’s hard to encounter an item that genuinely doesn’t help engineer at all. Most of the time the item will help you or the turrets

[vapid dagger]

mines are miniature nukes

[sonic tangle]

bubble shield seems rough if youre constantly being chased

[vapid dagger]

its more for the turrets

[main hornet]

shuriken

[placid quail]

Turrets

[main hornet]

actually turrets can use shuriken

[sonic tangle]

a little bit of extra turret uptime is fine but it still depends on the enemy

[vapid dagger]

you place a turret in an elevated spot and slap a shield on it and run

[main hornet]

wax quail is useless for both engi and the turrets

[sonic tangle]

solus amalgamator just doesnt care

[main hornet]

this is because wax quail is another word for green scrap

[placid quail]

More mobility is always good smh my head

[sonic tangle]

granted amalgamator only spawns because you chose to

[vapid dagger]

melee enemies cant hurt it and ranged enemies are blocked by the shield

titan is one of your biggest problems

[main hornet]

not on ac stages

[sonic tangle]

fist

[main hornet]

they can just decide to spawn

[vapid dagger]

and imp overlord is extremely rough on turrets

[placid quail]

The Amalgaminator is really cool

[sonic tangle]

oh yeah

[main hornet]

blazing imp overlord has to be one of the scariest bosses

[sonic tangle]

double dot

[vapid dagger]

but with proper placement you can still have turrets survive the punch barrage

and have the shield block the spikes the

[placid quail]

Imagine if burn cancelled bleed because of cauterization

[vapid dagger]

the hard part is getting that proper placement

[main hornet]

it would make dot builds suck

[placid quail]

True

[sonic tangle]

scorched aces rocks mm

[placid quail]

Scorched Acres is the worst map

[vapid dagger]

engineer cope really is just not really feasible without at least some items tho

[sonic tangle]

but getting up there is tricky and having to replace whenever they go down

[main hornet]

when you get no accessible newt with no ability to get up to the secret spot

[placid quail]

When the teleporter hides behind one of the platforms and the color grading disguises the particles if they even are visible at all

[sonic tangle]

cope run is fun because you can spend most of your time cloaked

[sage python]

would be interesting to do full loot runs but you dont pick up the items

[main hornet]

what the hell is a cope run

[vapid dagger]

you either have glass canon turrets that you pray you can get a good position and timing for
you have a lot of speed and nothing else where putting turrets into a really good position is easy enough but you really have to
or extreme defense and turrets just become canon fodder and its a war of attrition

[sage python]

one where enemies get close to outscaling you

p much

[sonic tangle]

but it also likely means your special will have an incredibly hard time doing its job

[main hornet]

you call this a cope run

[placid quail]

It’s the broccoli way of saying a bad run where your items are bad and/or the timer is running away from you

[main hornet]

i call it a skill issue

[sonic tangle]

blast at least lets you attack from longer ranges

[sage python]

[jaunty swallow]

Its possible for bandit to cope?

[sonic tangle]

yeah

if you go too slow as bandit

[jaunty swallow]

Ngl bandit is like, the last thing that comes to mind

[vapid dagger]

or just dont get good items

[sonic tangle]

also everyone can cope if they turn on prestige and hit every shrine and rhe node on stage 3

[vapid dagger]

bandit copes harder than most

[sonic tangle]

every dlc survivor ever

[main hornet]

the no good items argument only works for stage 1 if you don't get any damage AND healing AND you used at least one shrine of the mountain

[sonic tangle]

its a lot harder for bamdit to get crits

[vapid dagger]

the difference between a bandit run that is going well and a bandit run that isnt is extremely apparent

[main hornet]

which DOES happen

[jaunty swallow]

They seem to be coping fine

[sonic tangle]

yeah

how does railgunner cope

[vapid dagger]

shes surprisingly ok

[sage python]

concussive mines are great

idk about polar, but slow seems useful too ig

[vapid dagger]

but if she gets like
absolutely no damage she suffers

[main hornet]

multiplayer

[sonic tangle]

i mean that tends to be the cause of cope runs quite often

[main hornet]

stacking 2 of them completely stops projectiles

[vapid dagger]

mobility doesnt scale well within her kit defense only does so much with her mobility and without decent aoe even a lot of power starts to make things difficult

but she doesnt truly cope that often

bc her damage output is that high

[main hornet]

what do you mean mobility doesn't scale well on railgunner

[vapid dagger]

concussion mines provide less movement with high movespeed

[jaunty swallow]

No in a nutshell

[main hornet]

crazy verticality tho

[vapid dagger]

the verticality remains unchanged

and its not that crazy all things considered

[main hornet]

also just get one hardlight afterburner and you can get anywhere on any map

[sonic tangle]

its good but its usefulness is limited

like railgunner has jnsane verticality

but how often is that useful

[main hornet]

concussion mines have to be one of the best mobility tools in the entire game

[vapid dagger]

its still slower than other forms of verticality

[main hornet]

newt altars, pillar skip

[vapid dagger]

huntress and merc still easily outdo her mobility within combat

[main hornet]

the thing is that it's not JUST vertically you can literally go in any direction

[vapid dagger]

yes
but it still slower than other forms of movement that exist

[main hornet]

similarly to rex

no 😭

do you know how fast you can launch yourself and cross the map with concussion mines

[vapid dagger]

yes i do

do you know how long mines take to go off and recharge?

[languid crystal]

yes

[main hornet]

get bandolier or something

[languid crystal]

a few years iirc

[vapid dagger]

same could be said for any other skill

[main hornet]

also placing another mine instantly triggers the previous one to explode

[vapid dagger]

which doubles the effective cooldown

[main hornet]

which is how you can just fly around

[vapid dagger]

even with bandolier

[main hornet]

to allow you to get literally anywhere on the map in mere seconds

sometimes less than a second

[vapid dagger]

which high movespeed for other abilities do better

[main hornet]

anywhere in 3D space

anywhere in 3D space

[vapid dagger]

.

[main hornet]

i don't think so

railgunner mine spam will always be faster

[vapid dagger]

it will not

[main hornet]

it will

[vapid dagger]

it will not

[main hornet]

maybe i'm just too good at the game

[vapid dagger]

maybe you just havent experienced enough of the rest of the skills

[main hornet]

i have actually

[vapid dagger]

bc railgunners mines are very useful
but they STILL pale in comparison to the other skills when they are used well

[main hornet]

and have come to the conclusion that i'm just way too good at playing railgunner

and the game in general

conversation over

[vapid dagger]

and my takeaway is that you suck as everyone but railgunner

so i mean cool

[terse ferry]

what axii sees dropping a railgunner mine once every 6s

[fresh saddle]

Are all risktubers taking a break or something?

[vapid dagger]

hollow concepts NDA

[queen heron]

risktubers exist?

[terse ferry]

they're doing the ytber playtesting thing again?

[vapid dagger]

probably

im honestly just assuming thats what is going on

[fresh saddle]

Then this NDA is even tighter than AC though?

[terse ferry]

i mean it would make sense

[vapid dagger]

occams razor logic

[fresh saddle]

Only one still uploading is Race and I dislike his videos so effectively no one left

[warm wing]

when did they change yes chef to where you can't use the powered up knife attack after the powered up ice block???

[vapid dagger]

a lot of energy for the game has generally dissipated as well so that could also have something to do with it

players just arent very enthusiastic

[main hornet]

i was clearly talking about dropping multiple mines in quick succession

[terse ferry]

which is only doable the literal first time you throw out your mines assuming you're spamming them

because of how skill charges work

well without hardlight afterburner but with hardlight everyone gets stupid mobility

[sonic tangle]

yeah mines have their limit

[placid quail]

Doesn’t he just advertise his mod nowadays?

[sonic tangle]

he plays with his mod yeah

[placid quail]

Ror2 is more fun to play than watch imo

[thin saddle]

I don't get it honestly

There's like this phenomenon this repulsion that just makes me unable to try drifter

I don't think her kit is bad and I don't mind melee character

[placid quail]

Use tornado slam

[thin saddle]

It's just physically repulsive, not in a bad way I love that short fat woman but

I genuinely cannot stand using it for more than 2 minutes

I don't even hate her I find her ok maybe she's too complicated for my primitive neandathral frontal cortex!

[thin saddle]

Tornado slam vs mobile turrets fighting for the spot of "most useless ability ever"

[placid quail]

False…

And the bouncy grenades were RIGHT THERE

[thin saddle]

Bouncy grenades at that bad..

• tf you gonna use besides bouncy grenades as your primary

[placid quail]

Harpoons

[languid crystal]

tornado slam isnt bad actually

[placid quail]

Harpoons are the true engi primary

[languid crystal]

its mobile turrets vs slow down mines on railgunner

[upper wing]

even then mobile turrets arent the worst thing ever

[languid crystal]

i used it on drifter with 121 and i didnt mind it, i would use again

[placid quail]

Why do mobile turrets have crappy range

Literally can’t reach Voidling

[languid crystal]

i think slow down mines vs like harvest on rex

or whatever the green special is called

[thin saddle]

I feel like defautl abilities fundamentally is unable to have the title of "useless"

[languid crystal]

bounce mines suck

[placid quail]

They’re satisfying af to use though

[thin saddle]

The bouncing is so doodooo

[placid quail]

Doonk doonk doonk doonk

BWUBWUBWU

[placid quail]

M1 cancel

[thin saddle]

If I can't go all in I ain't using it

[placid quail]

[thin saddle]

Also like.. bagging is 300x funner and more effective anyways..

[placid quail]

What does that meeeeaaaaaan

[thin saddle]

Bagging + hack beacon captain

🥶

Spend 12 minutes in stage 3 grabbing each crate one by one

[cedar coral]

hey

youre gonna need a bigger ukulele

-mithrix, king of music

[languid crystal]

spidermines r an upgrade in every way

[languid crystal]

as a captain enjoyer i think hacking beacon is severely overrated

that said, i still use it cause the other beacons other than beacon kinda stink

[thin saddle]

I def agree the best mileage you can get is legendary crate or guaranteed cshrine but like

[languid crystal]

double shock is always good tho

[thin saddle]

Past the first loop you're already getting it for free

[languid crystal]

i swear tho, by the time i go over to a shrine i have so much money to burn

and dont get me started on resupply beacon jesus christ

3 charge replenishes on equipment, u gotta run a super specific equipment like preon or something

[vapid dagger]

he got scared and ran away

[golden linden]

the evil forces you into a direction geyser

[lone walrus]

yeo devs

it would be cool if you coudlnt pick up grounded enemies with the transport drone

like it shouldnt be an option

immediate runh killer

am i onto something???

[vivid ember]

i agree but i still use it

helps early game and lategame i kinda forget about them anyway

before looping tho it can abuse chance shrines

[lone walrus]

good idea lance!!

[upper wing]

hot take but i think voidling has the best boss music in the game

obviously yeah the fight itself is pretty mediocre but godDAMN chris went nuts on face of the deep

[vivid ember]

i think he has the best desing and music but the worst gameplay

[queen heron]

I'd agree with you if Torrent That Can't Be Downloaded didn't exist

[vivid ember]

i forgot about that

[upper wing]

thats a tp track, no?

[queen heron]

Then if Delugeional didn't exist.

[vivid ember]

that darn bird

[vivid ember]

i hate that bird

[upper wing]

that one is quite good but still cant quite top face of the deep imo

the sax just goes way too hard

[vivid ember]

one of my favorite songs is i should build the man a statue

[upper wing]

thats a good one

gearbox and chris christodoulou are so lucky that they worked with stavros when they did

[queen heron]

True the Sax goes hard
But Delugeional adds to how much pure fucking aura Solus Wing has

[vivid ember]

solus wing l aura they just a ball in a microwave

fun boss tho

[upper wing]

solus wing is pretty solid

[vivid ember]

the hardest boss in the game is wandering vagrant

[unique hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9wx82K13QU

[coarse merlin]

True

Crazy how it inflicts -50% move speed and destroys all terrain just off of your screen whenever it starts the nuke attack

[terse ferry]

i really like voidling theme as a cinematic theme but funnily enough my issue with it is not with the theme itself but with voidling
the theme gives off an esoteric and dangerous vibe that gets more and more hectic as the track goes on but the actual fight is really straightforward and boring with barely any changes at all as you progress through the phases

in short common voidling L common christodolou W

[loud beacon]

Yo can someone tell me how not to loop back my run

Every time i get to the final stage my run loops for some reson

[terse ferry]

on stage 5 leave through the teleporter and do not interact with the stone edges

[loud beacon]

And i lose a godly run

[terse ferry]

if you interact with the stone edges the tp will loop
if you exit through anything other than the primordial tp you will loop

[loud beacon]

I dont i interact with the thing in the middle

Does newt do that

[harsh crater]

Maybe you went through some portals?

[terse ferry]

it is a different way of exiting the stage yes

[loud beacon]

Damn so that damn newt

I better get a discount next time i enter his shop greedy bastard

[tribal sluice]

"Hey that's a cool skin, I love orange!" and then its fucking blue ingame

[terse ferry]

really funny to think that a portal that sends you to a space between time can't send you to the moon

[tribal sluice]

yeah because the space between time isn't the moon

[loud beacon]

Mul ti fan 🤮🤮

[harsh crater]

What’s wrong with mul-t yo

[loud beacon]

Bum

[tribal sluice]

I sense inferiority in my presence.

[loud beacon]

You snese yourself bro

[harsh crater]

Fun asf to play fym

[tribal sluice]

snese

[loud beacon]

Nah everybody hates him and i need to move as a hivemind

[thin saddle]

hearing this banger while an alloyed hunter is eviscerating me

[loud beacon]

Mb quick typer

[harsh crater]

If you dont get how to play him dont hate him 😢

[loud beacon]

I never did

Just a lot of ppl call him stupid and i think thats funny asl

[thin saddle]

W larps?

[harsh crater]

I have never heard anything like that

[loud beacon]

XL larps

I only play bandit so hella larp

[harsh crater]

Peak

[loud beacon]

I want to play railgunner but everytime i choose him i get dogshit items and when im recharging the biggasblast the boss kills me

[thin saddle]

Bandito main from the thieving scum streets of Blackwater disses my goat Mul-T

[loud beacon]

Yo dont diss my boy netenyahu

[thin saddle]

how do you lose on railgunner bro

[loud beacon]

Dogshit drops

[thin saddle]

she's like loader and false son mains who think they're too good for loader and false son

[loud beacon]

I love loader

[unique hawk]

her

[loud beacon]

Fr?

[unique hawk]

ye

[thin saddle]

HOLY LARP

[loud beacon]

I knew loader was female but not railgunner

[vernal heath]

It's because the moon isn't meant to be accessed
It's the prison of Mithrix, King of Nothing. He was betrayed by his brother Providence, Bulwark of the Weak, who imprisoned him there, intending for it to be an eternal prison; however, the survivors of Risk of Rain (I forget the ship names) are evil and they killed both Providence and his brother

[thin saddle]

hermano plays ror2 with his eyes closed

[loud beacon]

Yall just dont have the israeli spiritual energy like me

[restive pawn]

Why does arti have so much [flamethrower] in her design??

(the joke is that flamethrower is ass)

[thin saddle]

don't diss mul t till you unlock rex 😂

[loud beacon]

I hear he sucks balls

[thin saddle]

flamethrower is good bro you just need 300 items!

[loud beacon]

How do i get him?

[restive pawn]

Why does captain have so much flamethrower 🤤

[loud beacon]

And artificer too

[thin saddle]

use a character that drops in via drop pod and steal the battery

then go to rallypoint delta

wait no that's the han-d mod

[restive pawn]

Abyssal depths

[thin saddle]

honestly I forgot 😭

[vernal heath]

She wears a suit with weapons
An easy weapon to store in a confined place is a flamethrower, as it uses gas as fuel and it's easy to compress and store

[thin saddle]

yessir

[harsh crater]

“I hate rex” COMMANDO IS RIGHT THERE all the issues with rex literally disappears with his alt skills

[thin saddle]

just don't go below 50% hp

[loud beacon]

L youre joining my israeli forces soon

[thin saddle]

play that boy on anything above rainstorm and you're pissing your pants

I agree commando sucks bootycheeks I download a mod that buffs him

[golden linden]

actually more problems appear using the alt skills but

[thin saddle]

not a crutch he's just unfun.. trust,..

[restive pawn]

*E8 REX is decent on monsoon

[thin saddle]

wouldn't the constant self damage be awful

[restive pawn]

Every character is decent I mean it's a roguelike there's no bad character of you can just get lucky

Well except false son and seeker

[thin saddle]

I download a mod character called shingle dooble joe and he has no skills besides a melee m1 and a secondary that makes him explode and die.. is he still viable in E8

[restive pawn]

They shouldn't be classed with the other survivors

[restive pawn]

If you get lucky yea

[thin saddle]

gets 2 atgm multishops and icbm first stage

[restive pawn]

Like you can get growth stacks in any run because your bound to get atleast a few growth items

And seeker is just good

Especially with the revive some of y'all under sell how valuable a free one is

Palm blast doesn't exist.

[thin saddle]

Lebron James reportedly forgot to not loop in his first decent E8 run

[languid crystal]

yeah u shud use them since other beacons suck

no getting around it, they are terrible aside from shock

[restive pawn]

Didn't even bother filling in the caption 0/10 go back to studying

[golden linden]

lebron james a real scrub tho but respect for making any win a win

[thin saddle]

High cortisol "I use seeker because me & my friends keep dying" vs low cortisol "DebugToolkit respawn"

[restive pawn]

Equipment beacon would be good if it was infinite but that's way too op

[thin saddle]

IT'S FUCKING 23:03 LET ME LIVE!!

[restive pawn]

imagine being in a different time zone

[vapid dagger]

sticky bombs are great

[thin saddle]

resupply beacon.. royal capacitator..

[restive pawn]

I had a 20 sticky bomb mult run once

[languid crystal]

i mentioned this earlier but yes its good for VERY NICHE RNG based scenarios

[thin saddle]

genuinely first ever and I mean first ever person I've seen that compliments shock

[restive pawn]

Recyler resupply 🤤

[languid crystal]

theres no way, shock-hack and double hack are the most commonly praised beacons

[golden linden]

shock sounds really good until you realize you need those enemies dead

not stuck there

[languid crystal]

but diablo

[restive pawn]

I forgot about what his alt is called but it's good for that

[thin saddle]

maybe I'm an outsider but I find healing-hack more useful

[languid crystal]

diablo

[golden linden]

my arm in shape of a shotgun

[restive pawn]

Yea diablo that

I haven't played RoR2 in a week

And usually I go daily so

[vapid dagger]

shock seems really good once you understand an enemy that can no longer move is as good as dead

[thin saddle]

NO ONE USES DIABLO SERIOUSLY BRO 😭

[restive pawn]

I'm a addict

[languid crystal]

i dont really hear abt healing talked much and i dont find myself using it so its obscure for me

[languid crystal]

only casual captain players use probes, real captain players play diablo

[golden linden]

alive enemies don't give money

[thin saddle]

it's ass in E8 don't get me wrong but it's definitely nice having like a pocket bungus that's 2x as effective

[vapid dagger]

you dont use it when farming

[thin saddle]

is this deadass I don't play captain much seriously do people actually use diablo

[golden linden]

farming is killing enemies, if enemies aren't dead you aren't farming

what threat is there that captain can't deal with the shotgun

[thin saddle]

captain with diablo ngl still top 5 character his vulkan is the best primary in the game don't fight me I'm very frail and I will die

[languid crystal]

im being serious, lots of captain players play diablo. I dont think its THAT overwheming but it can go either way like actually

[languid crystal]

yes his m1 is easily top 1

[vapid dagger]

im not using shock beacons for farming
im using shock so i can focus on fighting the 3 stone titans from the teleporter event without disruptions

[languid crystal]

no doubt

[thin saddle]

what I absolutely despise about diablo is the call in time

[languid crystal]

thats everyones problem even mine but its so funny whwn it hits

[golden linden]

those will die from you being at their balls shooting in they ass

[languid crystal]

also diablo pillar skips so

i use heal-hack for probes if i want band proca

[thin saddle]

I get sooo excited when I see a huge group I call in "El Diablo" but once it finally drops down it only gets like 2 beetle guards cause the crowd already dispersed

[placid quail]

I like how captain makes up for his mobility issues with the microbots and shock stuff

Enemies can’t hit him but for other reasons

[languid crystal]

i never use resupply tho. i tried heal-resup once and the best equipment i snagged was a foreign fruit which i did not need

[placid quail]

I once got on a meme double resupply run

It was cute

[vapid dagger]

all beacons have purpose

[placid quail]

Except healing of course

[vapid dagger]

only resupply ends up scaling meaningfully

but resupply also has the weakest start

even healing has a place tho

[thin saddle]

diablo is kinda funny tho cause it's not even an explosive it's literlaly just a huge rod

[vapid dagger]

i stopped liking diablo after the drone changes

[thin saddle]

das what she said..

[placid quail]

It’s a real theoretical weapon of mass destruction

Kinda too expensive to do but the physics check out

[golden linden]

theoretical?

literally throw rocks at someone

same concept

[thin saddle]

the motherfucker who installed the Diablo cannon had a theoretical degree in theoretical physics in theoretical real life applications

[placid quail]

The Wikipedia article on kinetic bombardment is a nice read

[thin saddle]

kinda wish

diablo was a huge satelite laser but that's probably cliche

[languid crystal]

what beacon wud people even use with resupply

or i mean what equipment

[thin saddle]

a huge titanium rod of war, famine, pestillence and death is equally as funny and cool

[languid crystal]

like royal capac, preon and what

[vapid dagger]

a large rod launched downward would have the destructive force of several nukes iirc

[languid crystal]

spinal tonic? lol

[placid quail]

True…

The logistics of getting it all set up are too convoluted atm but it would be something

[thin saddle]

disposable rocket
royal capacitator
emergency backup
preon
gorag
my step-dad's phone number

[vapid dagger]

its not quite the same as "throwing rocks at someone"

thats more like what guns do

[placid quail]

If it’s disposable then how does it have multiple uses

Checkmate

[thin saddle]

where's my step-dad's phone number

[placid quail]

I work at the milk store. He left his phone here by mistake

[thin saddle]

the cooldown is actually the player manually ordering a new shipment through the UES same day shipping

[languid crystal]

wait resup doesnt replenic tricorn or whatever the fuck its called right

[vapid dagger]

what are the circled equipments indicating?

[languid crystal]

the trophy hunter thing

[thin saddle]

I want him back

[placid quail]

I still must know how bandolier recharges it

[languid crystal]

wait do casual captain players just use probe

damn it guys use diablo

[thin saddle]

wait holy prediction, this is kinda an ass item in rorr as it's unoriginal and boring BUT the new red item in HC will be the ATG MK 2

[vapid dagger]

i use probes now bc i dont like regularly killing my drones

[thin saddle]

super glue and stuff just jury rig it

[thin saddle]

I never thought of this, captain relies so heavily on drones in the later stages so Diablo must fucking suck

[golden linden]

what I would think to use with ressuply

there's more to argue there tho, like cube

[languid crystal]

oh i like killing them

[placid quail]

Both utilities get eclipsed by the m1 so really it’s just preference

[thin saddle]

jade elephant?..

[languid crystal]

what beacons r u using with probe? double hack

[golden linden]

prolly why not

[restive pawn]

Recycler

[placid quail]

🧠

[thin saddle]

YOU CAN ONLY RECYCLE 1 ITEM AT A TIME!!

wait no I mean YOU CAN ONLY RECYCLE 1 ITEM ONCE

[golden linden]

yeah, and you don't need to wait for recycler to recharge

[restive pawn]

Ok but

Less recharge

[languid crystal]

with resup beacon i get eccentric vase or some bullshit

[golden linden]

each ressuply is what, 4 uses?

[placid quail]

Use sacriswarms

[languid crystal]

never get a useable equip

[vapid dagger]

cube, molotov, opus, ocular hud

[languid crystal]

3 resups per beacon

[restive pawn]

New idea

Resupply exec card 🤤

I just can't wait 1 second

[thin saddle]

theoretically useful in a vacuum if like huge item drops from salestar but letting go of a beacon slot for this scenario is stupid

[languid crystal]

i refuse to use resup beacon tho it sucks

[placid quail]

Technically helps if you used an equipment with a long cooldown and then picked up the card

[vapid dagger]

and even remote caffenator for even more summonable bombardments

[restive pawn]

Also why does literally everything suck on E8

[languid crystal]

i wish the admiral mod(captain reworked skills) was not deprecated

[thin saddle]

what if resupp beacon reduces cooldowns by 1 sec when you stnad near it.. 👀

[restive pawn]

From what I heard

[languid crystal]

the admiral mod reworks resupply and hacking while adding a fith beacon and cooldown for beacons

[placid quail]

It was made in, like, two minutes

[languid crystal]

im sold!

[languid crystal]

good mod….

also had an alt secondary too

[terse fossil]

FINALLY, IT TOOK ME 5 TRIES
@iron palm

[thin saddle]

wdym by deprecated, update is fairly recent (a year ago, recent in ror standards)

[placid quail]

We need a hacking beacon!

By that I mean a beacon with spinning axe blades that literally hack enemies

[vapid dagger]

i feel like suffering today

[restive pawn]

You only have SOTV?

Or is this a previous version

[languid crystal]

might as well be tho its pretty fucked mod wise and unstable

[placid quail]

Wisps rapidly converge on your location

[languid crystal]

it hasnt been updated for dlc3

[restive pawn]

What has?

[languid crystal]

its a tiler2 mod so its pretty unstable

[restive pawn]

Uhh

[languid crystal]

the admiral mod for captain

[languid crystal]

or so i heard from a smart individual

[restive pawn]

Lowk idk what that is 💔 I only know the popular ones because I'm a smelly stinky console player

[thin saddle]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Phys09/Captain_Beacon_Cooldown_and_Tweaks/
I think this mod is a nice buff to beacons, diablo too!

[languid crystal]

reworks captain

[restive pawn]

He doesn't need a rework

I like him

[thin saddle]

he used to, trust

[golden linden]

is that 1 second even true

[thin saddle]

when drones were still ass

[vapid dagger]

previous version

[golden linden]

I swear I just hold E at multishops

[restive pawn]

Idk even before AC he was ok

I think? Oh god I can't remember

[thin saddle]

holy shit updated 2 years ago does this even work

[vapid dagger]

S tier for this build

[languid crystal]

its old tho, 2 yrs ago im not sure if i can trust it

cuz mods usually conflict very easily when outdated

[thin saddle]

it's ok, Arnold.. you've lived a good life.. step into the white gates with your wife..

[languid crystal]

might have to open a new mod profile js to try

[terse fossil]

when i start playing trashgunner in eclipse she's gonna be number one here

[restive pawn]

boywife you mean.. #notverywokeofyou

[thin saddle]

should've read your about-me sorry bro my mistake