#ror2-console-discussion

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quartz bay
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i wouldn't be surprised if it was also some sort of cost cutting measure too since the other last gen consoles are no longer supported either

tropic ocean
stable matrix
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In PC there's a mod to unlock everything tho

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But having to pay the game again sucks

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Ror2 has a lot more things happening on screen at the same time that those games tho

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And I say this as a switch player btw

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It sucks but the console can barely move Solus wing

severe oar
severe oar
stable matrix
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The mod unlocks things and that it, as far as I know you can uninstall it after but yeah not having a pc sucks

stable matrix
hot hill
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I strongly doubt it but we'll see

stable matrix
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But I think it would depend on what the new dlc adds because again, Solus wing basically destroys the poor switch and even there GB executives are clearly pushing towards more dlc's instead of big fixes and performance updates

stable matrix
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And the switch requires a lot of work rn, the memory leak bug is in the game since the devotion update lmao

valid steppe
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i doubt its a matter of performance

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risk of rain is not that intensive

tropic ocean
severe oar
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The Switch 2 is on track to become the best selling console of all time. Why abandon that market.

Especially with the history the Switch has with the series.

Its the only console with Returns on it

tropic ocean
stable matrix
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I'm not saying is impossible to run ror2 on switch 2 at around 30fps without major problems

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Im just saying that is too much work rn for a company that clearly wants easy and fast money

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And fixing bugs doesn't give you fast money

valid steppe
stable matrix
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The switch version is extremely broken rn

severe oar
tropic ocean
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Oh more than enough. But so is my phone.🤣

valid steppe
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what

stable matrix
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Idk if more than enough tbh

tropic ocean
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My phone is capable of running RoR 2

stable matrix
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Ror2 is an intensive game when you take into account item effects, enemies, bosses etc

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Not even talking about looping

valid steppe
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ror really isnt that bad

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graphics can just be reduced, and its pretty light on ram

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cpu is the only real limiting factor, and it doesnt require a great one at that

hot hill
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Switch 2 version is a pipe dream

severe oar
valid steppe
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steam deck just runs the windows version

hot hill
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Yeah, the fuck you mean with that

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The stream deck version is the steam version with some controls stuff

valid steppe
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its the same build

hot hill
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Besides, they didn't mention userbase being the problem, they mentioned console power

severe oar
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If the windows version is capable of running on the Steam Deck, there is no reason the Switch 2 can't get a version

hot hill
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And the switch 2 is on par with last gen consoles

valid steppe
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console power wasnt a problem for any of them except for switch 1

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not really

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bl4 makes me think we aint getting a switch 2 specific build

hot hill
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Right, but they mention compromises

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Which isn't userbase related

valid steppe
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i hope that doesnt mean unoptimised crap..

hot hill
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Reminds me that my ps5 version is getting close to being unplayable again

severe oar
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Unplayable? It runs just fine on my Switch 2 (aside from crashing after long runs) so I am pressing X to doubt

valid steppe
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logbook bug

hot hill
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It's a run reports bug, yeah

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It's already taking like 10 seconds to even load the main menu and logbook

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Let's see how long ago I brought this up

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3 months ago

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Awesome

severe oar
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If any devs are reading this, just to summarize, we are all totally on the same page and want a Switch 2 version 😏

hot hill
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I didn't say I didn't want it. I said it was most likely not happening

valid steppe
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theres a risk...

snow elbow
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Question.. Playing split screen with my son on Xbox, yesterday he was under his own account but it had everything unlocked that I have, however normally it doesn't do that.

Was this a bug or a feature I'm missing? Lol

hot hill
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Multiplayer games share item unlocks

restive prism
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It's not consistent though, I was doing it with my brother and he had every survivor unlocked, but when we tried again he only had Commando and Huntress

snow elbow
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Yea when he goes in as a guest under me he usually has the survivors but not their loadout unlocks, and under his own he doesn't have any of the survivors.

Yesterday he was under his own, had the survivors and their load out unlocks which was unusual

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I tried going in and adding him every which way and couldn't recreate it, he was kinda bummed

regal edge
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Hello console people

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How goes your coping?

simple dirge
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My logbook is brokeb

hot hill
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Is this ps5 and can you even start a game?

high mortar
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Artificier is bad (Kidding)

I hate fighting wisps with it, I just got really bad luck

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Also Clay dunstriders can just die.. holy fuck I got swarmed by one + Imps and I just couldnt dodge

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SO for a good run, 5 mins per level right? get what you can and move on right?

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Hmm I Might try a run with just the monster drops item artifact

quartz bay
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learning stuff like the stage layout, what items to prioritize from multishops/printers helps alot

high mortar
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Ohhh okay

hollow yew
# high mortar Ohhh okay

If you loot well you outscale the enemies unless you spend like 50 minutes on a stage or just get the worst possible items back to back

high mortar
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I just try to scour the map and it usually takes me like...7 minutes, depending on if I got speed loot

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I try to constantly move so I can use big AOEs and stuff

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pretty satisfying when you can hit those

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though wisps are absolute nightmares starting out

high mortar
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Haaaaaah

robust rain
tired sinew
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How good does this game run on Series S?

vernal peak
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What do you guys thiink the new dlc will be about

high mortar
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hmm I wonder, should I use artifact of sacriice on monsoon to atleast make it abit easier?

compact roost
ancient parcel
regal edge
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Nowadays, it’s about looting the entire stage as fast as you can

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You can go even further by trying to ensure the best/most loot possible via macro

regal edge
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Yea, chests won’t show up anymore, but you have to wait for enemies to give you items, meaning your seed might just screw you over when it comes to item frequency

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It also devalues economy items like C_Roll_Of_Pennies and E_Executive_Card

high mortar
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Yeah turning that off

regal edge
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I’d say if you’re gonna use Sacrifice and wanna maximize its potential, you’ll want to turn on Swarms as well

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But that’s just me, and I don’t really use Artifacts

tough night
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Has anyone else had their other dlc taken away

hot hill
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No but the way the xbox dlc works, it can look like that

tough night
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Yea I am on it smh

hot hill
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Yeah, if you start the game without internet, the dlc won't work

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Because the xbox doesn't store the dlc license locally, it has to download it everytime is starts up

valid steppe
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gearbox should be able to fix it on their end

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idk if its planned tho

hot hill
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I mean, if they were going to fix that, they've had plenty of chances

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It's not technically a bug

valid steppe
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yeah :/

hot hill
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Microsoft just decided to do that

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No other system does it that way

tough night
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My situation is I used to play a lot before alloyed came out I recently just redownloaded and now none of my saved data for the dlc is there still have achievements tho lol

high mortar
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I fucking hate clay dunestriders

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Maybe artificier is not at all good for monsoon yet

old thicket
high mortar
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I Did

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I unlocked everything for her so far

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and now im just trying to clear The game

old thicket
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ion surge + hover makes artificer almost untouchable

high mortar
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Im about to rage quit

old thicket
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only really have to worry about false son phase 1

high mortar
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im not but damn, lemme get to stage 3 please

old thicket
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why are you staying in murder range? literally be above that

high mortar
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Gotta charge the portal

old thicket
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kill the boss then charge

high mortar
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Does the ion jump lead into hover or do I need to hover after?

old thicket
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you need to activate hover manually

high mortar
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Thats what keeps tripping me up

old thicket
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getting the timing right is a bit hard since it prevents you from turning it on for a half second or so after using ion surge

regal edge
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There’s a setting to make Hover activate either on toggle or on hold, so experiment with each to see which suits you best

last saffron
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Dlc 4?

junior perch
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Idk if it's a bug or if I'm just incredibly unlucky, but I've gone into dozens of runs over the last week or so trying to find the log entries specifically for Wetland Aspect, Treeborn Colony, & Repurposed Crater. I've gone to each stage at least 5 times and not ONCE has a radar tower spawned for any of them. I'm even playing with Swarms enabled to so they'd have a higher chance to spawn.

old thicket
high mortar
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FUCKKF EG}EAP T{HG ES"gHBJGPSEdGUWASrmgOA

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FUck the artificier

junior perch
old thicket
high mortar
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Fucking awful

old thicket
high mortar
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Fuck off cunt what do you fucking think im trying to do

old thicket
junior perch
high mortar
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OKay so

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should I replace artificiers first skill with the heretics thing?

regal edge
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I mean if you want shrug

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I personally don't use Lunars cause it makes me feel stinky doodoo caca

high mortar
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Well if I wanna unlock the heretic I should

hot hill
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You don't unlock the heretic for future runs

stable matrix
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How bad is the multiplayer on switch?

vernal peak
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don’t loop

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my switch crashed when I did

regal edge
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Sounds like the Nintendo Switch

stable matrix
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Chat any tips for someone who wants to beat Solus wing and heart with Loader but really sucks/doesn't like playing her?

old thicket
stable matrix
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But looping on switch is kind of painful

high mortar
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I Am so tired of just reaching the third stage, than suffering and dying in monsoon.

I am growing to hate artificier

regal edge
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And that's ok, not everyone prospers with every character

stable matrix
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Ice spear and ice wall are your best tools, the freeze effect is too strong

quartz bay
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any sort of aoe, even a single gas makes solus heart incredibly easy, the only thing youd have to worry about is dodging the giant lazers

short iris
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Oh my god i just realized how dead this chat will be with no switch or last gen players doen the road, rip

onyx mulchBOT
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dynoSuccess nexoultr was banned.

fringe wadi
hot hill
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I mean, it's not like last gen players will be banned from the chat

wispy crypt
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But there is no incentive to engage with the community anymore

fringe wadi
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nah.

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we would still yapp

wispy crypt
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Whos we

regal edge
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The we in question:

old thicket
regal edge
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Ew

stable matrix
quartz bay
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gearbox make this chat exclusively for last gen players only and ban everyone else from it!

compact roost
dreamy crow
severe oar
calm mauve
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Guys sense ps4 is gonna stop getting updates I decided to just get a job and save for the ps5

severe oar
# stable matrix Chat any tips for someone who wants to beat Solus wing and heart with Loader but...

(Should have put this first so I am adding it with an edit) I used artifact of command and artifact of sacrifice.

Gloobo Jr was a big help when I did it. Also you can just grapple and stand on the top and beat the weak spots. You'll need to be able to tank a bit.

With the mega lasers, use the circuits around the map to dodge or just fall off the back of it and make it spin 180 to try to catch up, usually the laser ends before it gets back to you

This was all in one run without looping.

dreamy crow
timid narwhal
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Got this last night, pretty sure this is one of the only few areas where four of the five portal types can show up

brisk skiff
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I love brilliant behemoth but mostly for the visual effect

dark fiber
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Is behemoth not just an extra 60 percent damage or does the aoe damage not apply to the enemy hit directly

old thicket
dark fiber
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Well that’s fair because it would practically be a clover if it did have a co

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Imagine clover but it gave you 60 percent more damage and aoe on hit

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That would be so balanced

compact cargo
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Anyone playing on Playstation

hard quartz
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What do the options when selecting a dlc in the downloadable content section do?

sweet edge
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it's like a vote. the golden highlight is a vote to activate the dlc during the run, the red highlight/x is to vote against activating the dlc during the run

severe oar
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Speaking of voting, go upvote this so we can let them know that we want a Switch 2 version

wispy crypt
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I dont think thats gonna work

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Best we can do is pray that they decide to not leave the version as a broken mess and get like at least one more patch in to fix the severe issues

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As much as I wish for a switch 2 version...

frail merlin
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I’m hoping an announcement happens in the triple initiative or I will probably just accept it’s not happening anytime soon

regal edge
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Something needs to happen, otherwise they lose 1/20th of the playerbase

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Well, you could say that about a lot of things

regal edge
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We got a stinker here

ancient parcel
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Is there any other way for me to the get the pause. achievement on console it won’t let me buy the character that’s stuck

quartz bay
ancient parcel
quartz bay
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its been a while since i last played the game on my ps5 so i dont know unfortunately

ancient parcel
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Ah no worries then thanks for the heads up

midnight atlas
midnight atlas
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Nvm i thought u were on ps5

ancient parcel
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lol no on Xbox I appreciate the attempt tho

white quarry
ancient parcel
severe oar
orchid oracle
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So is the game gonna still receive updates on switch 2? I saw that announcement about discontinued support for ps4, xbone, and switch. Is there a switch 2 upgrade version of the game yet?

regal edge
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We have no idea

lone lichen
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Is anyone on PlayStation willing to help me with the long road trophy? It is the last trophy I need for the platinum

ancient parcel
soft flume
lone lichen
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@soft flume Ok dude, my bad big bro 💀

soft flume
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Just play on easy

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If you have seeker of the storm use the false son

lone lichen
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I got to stage 20 and died because something blocked my healing

regal edge
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Big fan of Malachites

simple dirge
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A skill issue

lone lichen
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I just did it dude, seems ok

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@simple dirge Just got it done, your a bum

severe oar
white quarry
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They know people want a switch 2 version, but they must have reasons for not delivering. Atp a switch 2 version is super unlikely no matter how many upvotes a message in the feedback channel gets. Then again if they announce it at the Triple I then yknow that’s great but my money is on there being no switch 2 announcement.

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Also to my knowledge that feedback channel seems to be pretty defunct

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As in, no devs are ever checking it, at least that’s how it seems

ancient parcel
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Damn that’s unfortunate

pulsar dove
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Would rather they fix the artificer bug first

ancient parcel
severe oar
sweet edge
severe oar
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Well still, maybe if they happen to see it and see 100+ votes it will catch their eye

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Thats my goal

coral timber
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TIL: elder lemurians can spray while in drifter bag

candid pollen
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Good run, yes?

pseudo fiber
rose tinsel
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Is there a switch 2 version in the works jw

regal edge
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Not that we know of

severe oar
crisp temple
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Which add-on should I obtain first (just beat the game)

wispy crypt
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Like as in dlcs?

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I'd say survivors of the void would be a good entry, its not too complex and adds a lot to the main gameplay loop

hot hill
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AC probably second as it feels more balanced

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Sots still good but someone has to be in last place, unfortunately

crisp temple
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Thank you

wraith cipher
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Hey anyone wanna play a monsoon run?

stable matrix
stable matrix
tame swallow
wispy crypt
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That did often cause some jank

somber valley
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What items do I need to activate bands on serrated dagger? It’s seems like even though I have lots of focus crystals and crowbars I haven’t been able to activate bands

wispy crypt
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Bands dont activate with damage increasing items

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If the base damage isnt 400% or more it will not proc bands

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It used to work with damage increasing items but that was patched out like over 2 years ago

somber valley
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💔✌️

tender estuary
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who wants to play (playsation)

tender estuary
ancient parcel
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Would but I’m on Xbox boss

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You’re just more likely to get someone in there than here

compact roost
ancient parcel
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Praying but not getting my hopes up

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Just got into the game and I’m already addicted if they added it I’d probably put the game in my top 5

severe oar
sweet rock
vagrant marsh
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Yeah uh, don't ever pick up a stationary enemy with a transport drone

wooden pollen
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Does anyone know if cross platform is going to be added cause thatd be peak

white quarry
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Extremely extremely unlikely

dreamy crow
severe oar
vernal peak
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Does switch 2 count as a next gen, because it wasn't mentioned in their announcement.

severe oar
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I don't know. It either (1) feels like they were saving the announcement of a Switch 2 version until it was ready to show, (2) testing to see if there was enough enthusiasm for it, or (3) just trying to avoid saying they would be abandoning Switch players

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Really hoping it was option 1

Option 2 still has some hope

Option 3 is just terrible

vernal peak
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I really want option 1 because I really want the fourth dlc.

sweet edge
severe oar
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I thought awhile back they mentioned getting each version to the same update revision.

Thats not a full step all the way to crossplay but definitely a step towards it.

Its just a hope obviously, even if its unlikely

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Thats why we need to vote on stuff like this! Sure its unlikely they see it, but maybe if I get 100 upvotes or something it will catch their eye. Let them know we want a Switch 2 version.

#ror2-feedback-and-ideas message

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We sit at 35 right now which seems like quite a lot compared to most feedback. Just need to keep it going

sweet edge
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same 'version' just means parity across content, not that the back ends of each version are the same

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e.g. the pc/steam version relies on Steam's networking to connect to other people.

severe oar
untold current
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When you go and put in the code to unlock the rune for metamorphosis does it changes your current survivor?

frail merlin
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Only half a year later and gearbox is already announcing another dlc

untold current
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Already a new DLC?

severe oar
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Well no Switch 2 announcement.

Dang guess I'll never buy anymore RoR2 stuff, that sucks if they just abandon Switch players but I will not stop asking for one

azure wharf
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Will the dlc be available on the normal switch?

azure wharf
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Aw damn it

hallow bone
azure wharf
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The dlc looks cool as heck too thats so dumb☹️

severe oar
azure wharf
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Option 3 would be terrible tbh

clear yew
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part of me is coping that we just see a Switch 2 version announced in an eventual Nintendo Direct prayge

severe oar
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The Switch 1 is very close to becoming the best selling console of all time, the Switch 2 is outselling the Switch 1 if you track them at similar times from their release.

To me it just seems crazy to not make a Switch 2 version. Why abandon a huge player base like that?

severe oar
stoic summit
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Hopefully there will no longer be a switch release delay

sweet edge
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um

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there sure won't be!

severe oar
finite cradle
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I hate gearbox

stoic summit
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is this a joke or serious?

vivid star
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What annoys me a lot (not the most, but a lot) is that if they abandon us Switch (2) players, they'll still continue to leave gyro controls out from the PS5 version which is what I'd then move too.

finite cradle
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I wish this game would not become such a dlc slop game

stoic summit
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i hadnt kept up with any news for a while now

sweet edge
severe oar
sweet edge
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this is what's listed for release in the trailer

vivid star
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Upvote where?

vivid star
severe oar
vivid star
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Thanks

noble fulcrum
weary mauve
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Ok serious question where is the switch 2 label on that dlc

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Its been out for just about a year now

lucid birch
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I have a feeling they won't bother with the switch 2

brave swallow
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engiclueless if only

weary mauve
lucid birch
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I can't say I've ever seen a company literally abandon a massive chunk of their player base but okay

weary mauve
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Its on series S and switch 2 is better than that.

lucid birch
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Despite not being gen 8

weary mauve
brave swallow
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Tbh I wouldnt really blame them with how much of a pain making the changes for the switch version specifically seem to have been

weary mauve
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Im not talking about a switch version

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Im talking switch 2

lucid birch
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I don't know why they decided to make different versions of the game for each console

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Makes crossplay almost impossible for the future and adds an extra hassle

weary mauve
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I understand why switch 1 was dropped as soon as switch 2 came out

lucid birch
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They should've just spent more time making all versions the same

weary mauve
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Its a potato

lucid birch
sweet edge
lucid birch
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I'm saying gearbox screwed us over

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I know it would've been harder to make it all one version

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But it would have been better in the long run

sweet edge
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it's not really gbx's fault specifically, i don't think

lucid birch
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That's what Terraria is doing I think

sweet edge
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crossplay wasn't as huge as it is now back in 2019

mighty hinge
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So is dlc 4 releasing on switch 2? I knew old gen consoles were discontinued but one of my friends only play on switch 2 and it would be a shame if his only device was discontinued already and I dont see anything its saying it will come to switch 2

sweet edge
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seems like it's not on switch 2

lucid birch
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Switch 2 wasn't mentioned

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I'm insanely pissed

noble fulcrum
brave swallow
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its always bugged me because they go out of their way to specifically say Gen 8 when they mentioned Switch, but not follow up

lucid birch
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The switch 2 didn't even get improved graphics

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The switch one is a pile of crap but the 2 could absolutely run the same graphics every other device does

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But they didn't bother so I'm certain they don't care about either switch console

brave swallow
lucid birch
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Collective?

vivid star
lucid birch
surreal ermine
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What?

noble fulcrum
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Tbh, switch 2 version at this point would be better than series x/s cuz I strongly believe xbox does not have much time left, at least as a console brand

lucid birch
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What what

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True true

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I'm just sick of the switch 2 not being recognized on the same level as ps and Xbox because of all the petty lies spread about it

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Aside from the short handheld battery life I think it's a really solid console

sweet edge
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when they sent that initially, I had assumed they left switch 2 out because they were sitting on a s2 version announcement. but looking back now, it seems clear that they're just moving forward with ps/xb/pc

lucid birch
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W gearbox 🫩

noble fulcrum
vivid star
lucid birch
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Maybe they'll release it on switch 2 later like alloyed collective

hot hill
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I mean, the writing was on the wall. They were dropping support for older or lower powered consoles. Makes sense that switch 2 wasn't getting a version

lucid birch
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But it isn't old or low power

noble fulcrum
lucid birch
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I refuse to believe this dlc is gonna have things that gen 8 consoles can't handle

still moon
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I am mad at the fact that they left switch in the state that it is now locking updates behind DLCs mostly saying that there is no more updates for the console

hot hill
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It's about equivalent to a ps4 or xbone but portable

lucid birch
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Ror is a well optimized game

hot hill
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And they're dropping support for those

lucid birch
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I think they just don't want to do the extra work

shy ruin
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I just wish they weren't fuckin pussies dancing around whether they will or won't and just SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH SWITCH 2

lucid birch
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Plus if this dlc is some visual masterpiece that fries your eyes then the rest of the game will look awkward

hot hill
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I have a friend that plays on ps4 that I won't get to anymore

vivid star
lucid birch
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The idea of a non triple A company ditching consoles is crazy

hot hill
shy ruin
vivid star
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Similar to No Man's Sky and the Switch 1, but even they eventually pulled it off despite the lack of communication

lucid birch
severe oar
# noble fulcrum Yeah thats where im at now, switch was best for me so I could pick up and put do...

For me, I found the RoR series on Switch when the first one launched there.

Then I got RoR2 and got friends to get both and RoRR because that was also the secondary console we all had.

So lack of crossplay is the main reason we all play there aside from me being the first one to get it there and everyone else just following.

Now I won't buy it again due to lack of crossplay because I won't be able to play with those friends anyway and lack of crossprogression because I don't want to have to unlock everything again. Thats just a lot of work

lucid birch
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They haven't told us yet because these jackasses haven't even figured it out themselves

hot hill
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The chance is low enough to discard

shy ruin
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I don't even need a long extravagant note I just need a register that they have a pulse 😭

lucid birch
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The chance is inconsistent

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You really can't make any statement on it

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I'd rather they say no then change their minds later than just not saying anything

sweet edge
noble fulcrum
lucid birch
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I'm telling you the switch 2 can easily run this stuff bro 😭😭

sweet edge
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oh i'm not saying about switch 2, i mean switch 1/ps4/xbo

lucid birch
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I don't think anyone has hope for the gen 8 consoles anymore

covert wave
lucid birch
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I'm talking about the switch 2

still moon
noble fulcrum
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Oh yeah totally, there is 0 excuse for waiting months after every other console and STILL releasing in a bad state

lucid birch
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Like can I help you bro

still moon
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Drifter being glitched sometimes the random stuttering, crashing, everything being distant roost in the log book, the lack of the lunar coin icon and probably some other things that I haven't ran into yet oh and massive desync where I'm on a completely different stage as the other person is far off into the run

lucid birch
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My favorite part of alloyed collective is how they unironically added lag

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Before the game used to run very smoothly

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But ever since the day I got alloyed collective the game stutters in the first 5 seconds of a run before working normally

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How do you even let that happen

still moon
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How do they mess up the log book it shouldn't be that hard or that icon for lunar coins

lucid birch
#

And people still think to defend gearbox

still moon
#

Make sure to at least take us out to dinner before fucking us

lucid birch
vivid star
#

They as far as I'm aware still haven't managed to bring Borderlands 4 to Switch 2 and I don't believe they announced a cancelation yet either, right? Gearbox just seems really incompetent when it comes to the Switch (2)

noble fulcrum
severe oar
#

Its also super odd to abandon Switch because it has been a good home for the series. Its still the only console RoRR is on

noble fulcrum
still moon
#

Just give me a second to get it

lucid birch
#

🫩

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If you search up anything about gearbox you'll see people talking about their atrocious reputation

covert wave
brave swallow
lucid birch
#

Guest account btw hero_spider

severe oar
noble fulcrum
vivid star
covert wave
vivid star
#

Ah

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Well screw that default lol

covert wave
vivid star
still moon
#

Did I forget to mention the fact that you still cannot get the demons in the crabs achievement

lucid birch
#

I've been stressing over that fucking achievement for like a year

#

It's the only thing I needed for 100% before alloyed collective

vivid star
#

Oh I just suck at trying to get that one. Gave up.

regal edge
lucid birch
#

And I can't even ignore it because it's a really good item

covert wave
noble fulcrum
lucid birch
severe oar
regal edge
#

Uh idk

noble fulcrum
lucid birch
#

So you're just talking out of your ass

regal edge
#

Well I don't really hear many people playing on Switch

#

Considering uh

noble fulcrum
regal edge
#

How bad the hardware is

lucid birch
regal edge
#

I swapped off of Switch as soon as I got a PC

lucid birch
#

Uh oh guys

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HE isn't using the switch

#

I guess nobody else is

#

Like genuinely what are you talking about

regal edge
#

That's not what I'm saying at all

#

Putting words in my mouth

lucid birch
#

You made a claim about the size of the ror switch player base

#

With no proof other than the fact that you don't use it anymore

regal edge
#

I SAID NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT

covert wave
regal edge
#

THE SWITCH RUNS LIKE SHIT AND THERE'S BEEN A MEMORY LEAK FOR A LONG TIME

opaque rock
#

Oh wow they have a console discussion? Man we aint ever getting crossplay 😭🥀

still moon
#

Most people have gave up hope

lucid birch
#

People don't talk about the game regardless

brave swallow
#

no see i get where hes coming from because yeah its always been the worst version of ror2, so if you got the option to change, you might as well

lucid birch
#

It's weirdly a popular game that doesn't get discussed

#

A lot of people know it but just don't talk about it

lucid birch
#

Bad software has never stopped switch players from taking up a majority of game communities

#

It's just the most accessible console for a lot of people

brave swallow
finite cradle
#

I don't think I can't support risk of rain 2 anymore

#

I'll still support the other ones but not 2

sweet edge
#

i mean tbf switch is the smallest playerbase here in the discord

lucid birch
#

It's not ridiculous to say that

vivid star
#

I have the choice to play most games I'm interested in on either PS5 or Switch (2) and I almost always go with Switch

brave swallow
#

tldr; man im just gonna play returns

lucid birch
#

That's it's biggest strength

opaque rock
lucid birch
#

But that's still a fair point

#

I'm just saying it isn't as small as that dude said

finite cradle
# opaque rock Why bud?

I mean is it not obvious they don't care for the game anymore and just see as another IP to just sell out on

lucid birch
#

Gearbox doesn't care about their games?

#

What else is new

covert wave
shy ruin
#

I mean they canceled hostile worlds so

vivid star
#

😅😓

lucid birch
#

The team can be good but the company is still bad

covert wave
lucid birch
#

I doubt the people working on the games like when this bullshit happens

finite cradle
#

I still love the game just not the direction the games heading into

opaque rock
#

For it i see it as it can be a hit or miss. Tbh yea i was like confused on how freaking fast a new dlc came out but i mean- i play this game a lot. I finished alloyed collective challenging myself and all, so hearing a new dlc was like- “oh wow more content for me.”
Now unless you talking about how they dont fix certain things thats been a problem for so long i mean…yea i see that lol

covert wave
#

gearbox is the most easy game company to slander i can think of

lucid birch
opaque rock
severe oar
lucid birch
#

I was literally geeking out for months waiting for it to release

opaque rock
#

I always saw this game being a “mainly pc” game

finite cradle
#

And I also wanna add that they didn't fix any of the bugs that where introduced or the new crashes that AC added

lucid birch
#

And when they released it along with the announcement I was pissed

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I haven't even done like 10 runs since I bought it

#

I can't play the game anymore without feeling completely bummed

finite cradle
vivid star
#

AND AGAIN, if I ever decide to permanently switch (no pun intended 😭) to playing RoR2 on PS5, why is there still no gyro control option???

finite cradle
#

Like bro I only am on switch because of 3 reasons 1 it's cheeper then a PC 2 it's got Nintendo games and 3 I enjoy handhelds more then consoles

lucid birch
#

The people at the top of gearbox should stop thinking about risk of rain and start thinking about how they're at a risk of getting railed by the community

#

They need to get their shit together

finite cradle
#

I hope the company higher ups at gearbox as screwed up as this sounds lose the rights to risk of rain 2 or even go bankrupt

still moon
finite cradle
#

Cause that shits ass that we consoles constantly get shat on one by one everyday with everything

vivid star
lucid birch
#

Risk of rail 2: the communities opinion hero_spider

hearty sparrow
#

Even tho im a Xbox series player upgrading ur consoles to the New gen ones seems rlly expensive cuz of the ram shortage that has be going on

lucid birch
#

Open the window gearbox

finite cradle
#

Risk of constipation 2 electric shit-a-loo

still moon
#

You know one thing that surprises me is that crypt of the necrodancer has cross play and has in-game modding on switch in this game doesn't have either

#

I know that it's possible it will never come through

finite cradle
#

Yeah how come indie devs do better then others like come on people get your act straight

#

All I'm saying is we console players need to protest gearbox PEACEFULLY

#

And not buy their slop fest of games

vivid star
#

Gearbox takes the Fuel Array from the escape pod and dies on the first stage every time.

shy ruin
#

Just using a nintendo switch charger

finite cradle
#

I don't like switch 2 or modern gaming because you don't own ANYTHING anymore and you are force to like it

#

It sucks they way humanity is going

#

More specifically gaming

severe oar
still moon
#

I don't think they listen

finite cradle
severe oar
dark fiber
severe oar
finite cradle
shy ruin
#

I'm just gonna be playing other games until they say something ngl

dark fiber
#

Because regular switch version is actual ass

#

It’s so broken 😠

shy ruin
#

Minecraft, mhs3, fort, isaac

#

I got plenty to do

severe oar
quartz oyster
#

a new DLC was announced? great... shame i won't be able to play it since i play on switch... let me know when the game gets a switch 2 edition

vivid star
#

Idk if this is allowed, but please go like and repost my tweet (I'm not trying promote myself, just want to bring more attention to the want of a Switch 2 Edition/ Upgrade and the new DLC)

https://x.com/i/status/2042288037627867418

If this is a violation of some rule, I'll apologize and remove this.

@RiskofRain For the love of N'kuhana, please please PLEASE continue support for Nintendo Switch players via the means of a Switch 2 upgrade/ edition! And seriously, add gyro controls to PS5 & Xbox already.

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It's replying directly to their recent posts about the new DLC

severe oar
#

Done

vivid star
full willow
#

Yeah, i play on PC normally but it’s a huge shame that it could not be arriving on the switch 2. I think its the best way to play imo 🤷‍♂️

severe oar
#

Someone mentioned gyro for the PS5, Switch 2 could add mouse support as well

vivid star
#

I guess it's a spreading of negativity (not that I was helping) but like what the hell is the problem with people like this (I'm already aware of my own problem, thank you)? Excuse me for wanting to continue playing a game I love on hardware that it already has a home on.
https://x.com/i/status/2042313126100844863

@ZeroPrime20 @GearboxOfficial @RiskofRain Counter point switch ports are always useless cause they’re terrible hardware and a net loss for every dev

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Oh switch bad so all switch bad me bad you bad Nintendo bad. So exhausting.

#

Anyway, that's enough of that.

frail sinew
#

Is the new DLC going to come to Switch or are they not supporting it anymore, the trailer didn’t list switch in the platforms it’s coming to

shy ruin
#

We don't know

little marlin
sweet edge
little marlin
quartz bay
#

yes, very easily

hot hill
#

I mean, I'm not sure on save editing but there's a mod to just reunlock whatevet

little marlin
hot hill
#

RealerCheatUnlocks

#

You can use r2modman to get mods

little marlin
#

ohhh

still moon
acoustic pine
#

Do you guys think that with the new dlc we going to get crossplay

compact roost
willow timber
#

The new dlc looks really interesting

opaque rock
#

Dont worry you guys. Theyll release it sometime soon. Been a pattern ive been seeing for a while now. 😂 be like a big reveal or something.

vernal peak
severe oar
hot hill
#

<@&559786374228738069>

#

What is it with today

white quarry
#

Idk

#

It was created today

#

Say something

hot hill
#

I mean bots in general today

#

What's that, like the fifth one so far?

onyx mulchBOT
#

dynoSuccess beenewin18 was banned.

white quarry
#

Alright

terse sphinx
#

We need cross playyy I wanna play ror2 with my console friends 😭

white quarry
#

It is what it is

terse sphinx
little marlin
#

why did i get a ping here? i checked here and there was no ping recently

little marlin
hot hill
opaque rock
hot hill
#

Don't worry, just a bot

cyan light
#

im truly risking my rain rn

tiny garden
#

I keep on getting more vict- I mean players to try the game

radiant mulch
#

Hi! Just wondering, do we know if the new dlc will be on switch?

shy ruin
#

We don't

#

(if you're referring to 2)

radiant mulch
#

Yeah.

#

Ok.

hot hill
#

The trailer listed all consoles but switch

#

So assume no

radiant mulch
mellow reef
#

how to reject / accept the offering of the collective? (DLC)

dapper coyote
#

to reject it you kill solus heart

mellow reef
#

can someone check if on bandit i have to reject / accept the offering of the collective? (DLC)

mellow reef
#

ty

timid narwhal
#

Accept is Bandit, Artificer, REX, Loader & Captain

#

The rest reject

mellow reef
#

@timid narwhal how do i accept

#

do i have to kill the boss or

timid narwhal
#

I think

#

The boss is on 1 hp so after that interact with the orb and don’t kill it, I’m not 100% sure tho

#

Idk i haven’t gotten to that part

fossil terrace
#

You have to beat the boss and you have to either interact with it to accept or shoot it to reject

shrewd light
#

I just got back into play ror2 today, I genuinely forgot how great this game's soundtrack is lmao

ancient parcel
#

Fr this is probably one of the only games where I’ll listen to the soundtrack instead of Spotify

torn fossil
#

are oldgen consoles still able to play multiplayer or did they already pull the plug

quartz bay
#

not yet

severe oar
#

Right? Or are they just shutting down all multiplayer?

quartz bay
#

i believe just crossgen multiplayer is no longer gonna be supported, although i feel itll still work fine if lets say the ps5 player just plays the ps4 version of the game

torn fossil
#

i tried going into multiplayer today and i could either not connect or disconnected instantly

#

in the multiplayer menu it was endlessly loading

covert wave
vernal peak
#

Has the "Demon and the Crabs" acheivment been fixed for switch?

regal edge
#

Should’ve been for a while

wispy crypt
regal edge
#

Bruuuuh

wispy crypt
#

At least gearbox should be aware of it rn

#

I do really hope it, along with all the other bullshit, compels them to still do one finishing patch for the switch

vernal peak
#

I really need gesture 🙁

elder tapir
#

Any way to play with friend on pc? I’m on xbox, or nah

#

:( rip, why thoooo

#

So many friends who only have it on pc, sad days

ionic cradle
#

HOW DO I UNLOCK THE SEEKER'S ALTERNATIVE ABILITY FOR SOULJOURN

#

:[

#

and why is it so hard

#

:[

quartz bay
#

also maybe a cautious slug or two to heal quickly if you fail an attempt

ionic cradle
#

thank you :]

quartz bay
#

youre welcome

#

also iirc the 500k% damage doesn't have to be on a single enemy, you can hit a group of enemies and get the achievement much quicker

timid narwhal
#

Unless I’m thinking of the wrong thing

green gate
#

So what's this about

shut anchor
ionic cradle
green gate
#

Loaded into solutional haunt and it was just like rhat

regal edge
#

Nintendo Switch

green gate
#

Luckily my friend activated the cutscene and it fixed

regal edge
#

Wait not that's XBox

ionic cradle
green gate
#

I thinkkkk its just something with railgunner cuz something similar happened before on PC when I played her

#

Loaded into stage 2 and my screen was all orange

ionic cradle
#

in all the time i have played in my ps4 nothing like that ever happend to me

#

and side note i had that ps4 for over 8 years

green gate
ionic cradle
#

were you on multiplayer?

green gate
#

Yeah this was a few months ago

#

Before I bought any dlc for Xbox

ionic cradle
#

i have no clue

pliant bloom
#

Someone popped a plan C

normal frigate
#

Shaped glass happenedL_ShapedGlass

vernal peak
#

I like artifact of prestiege

normal frigate
#

True power

vernal peak
#

Yes

#

It crashed my switch the next stage.

finite cradle
#

Hey is it possible still to do 20 hermit crabs off stage or no

#

I'm on switch 1

#

@wispy crypt

#

Do you know?

vernal peak
#

no It’s bugged

#

I wasted three hours trying

finite cradle
#

Is it still possible to unlock it?

#

Or no?

vernal peak
#

No

#

Unless they patch the bug.

finite cradle
#

Oh

#

Dang well I guess I can't 100% the game no more

vernal peak
#

Can you give me a tip to get the Berzerker's Pauldron

#

I can't seem to be able to get it.

wispy crypt
vernal peak
#

Maybe they will do one last switch fix 🤞

stable matrix
#

Hey chat, has anyone tried switch local coop? Does it work better than online?

And also, how exactly does playing online work? If I make a room I'm hosting it and the people that play with me are connecting to me?

sweet edge
#

yes, the game is p2p, so you need to make sure the host has a stable connection

#

local co-op is going to have less lag for joining players than online would, but if you're playing online with someone in the same country, it shouldn't be a big deal in the first place

stable matrix
#

Thanks ^^

severe oar
stable matrix
#

Yeah I don't think the switch has split screen lol

peak quest
#

it really pains me that ive bought ror2 and all the dlcs for the switch versionand now if i wanna continue playing the new content i would have to rebuy it all on steam

tidal gull
#

🏴‍☠️

peak quest
#

good point

regal edge
#

Honestly, as much as a dick as I'd sound by saying this, but ya should've just bought it on Steam in the first place

dreamy crow
#

I didnt have a pc

#

I had no choice :(

peak quest
#

also all my friends only have switches and thers no cross play so i would have to get it on switch

regal edge
#

Yea uuuuh

#

Idk man shoulda just had a PC, forehead

#

Sorry

real radish
#

Hey y'all, thinking about getting ror2, does anyone play on ps5? Don't have a pc so it's my only option, if it plays well I'll definitely get it

dreamy crow
#

We just got a new member acu-

#

They're here right now lol

serene yoke
#

I bought ror2 last night, highly enjoy it, and i play on PS5!

#

I have been summoned lol

real radish
strange beacon
#

It sucks how they dropped the last gen consoles without any reason really

cyan light
#

I need to upgrade to series x already

#

but not before they port risk of rain returns to xbox because I NEEED ITTTT

severe oar
#

Please go upvote posts like this

#

Let them know we want a Switch 2 version!

severe oar
quartz bay
severe oar
#

But its more like Xbox is coming to RoRR instead of RoRR coming to Xbox

quartz bay
#

like xbox users will able to use storefronts like gog or steam?

#

that sounds interesting

severe oar
vernal peak
#

Will there be a switch two version, because my Windows computer is 10 years old and overheats on minecraft, so I don't want to kill it by getting ror2 on it.

wispy crypt
vernal peak
#

🙁

dreamy crow
severe oar
vernal peak
#

Thanks

near vortex
#

Is there any discussion for the game to become cross-play?

sweet edge
#

nope. not impossible but not something they've ever talked about doing.

near vortex
#

The pain i have when all my friends are on Ps

vernal peak
#

Same

noble fulcrum
elder tapir
#

Is there any saving/data issues in Xbox? I got false son a couple days ago, got alloyed collctive today and now he’s locked again

noble fulcrum
elder tapir
#

Rip

#

Ah well I’ll just unlock againnn blegh

noble fulcrum
#

Never had save issues myself but ive seen others over the years struggle

elder tapir
#

Blehhhhh

serene yoke
elder tapir
#

Pc while on Xbox :( no cross play seriously blows

dreamy crow
#

Tell me about it...

hot hill
#

I got one for each of mine so I could play with frens

silent python
#

Unfortunately multiplayer barely works properly even without crossplay. Would be a big task to get that going

severe oar
noble fulcrum
#

Plus at least switch cloud saves (for those who have nso) are actually good, unlike whatever spaghetti pile xbox is using, coming from a former xbox only person

white quarry
wispy crypt
#

It would genuinely take a miracle

vernal peak
south mesa
#

My headcanon is that beetles have always been able to phase through solid rock, we just didn't care to notice until now

noble fulcrum
#

They just have the phineas and ferb molecular scrambler clearly

severe oar
#

Man. I just don't enjoy playing Mercenary at all and REX feels meh to me. I pretty much enjoy all the others.

Due to this, i think I might just play Mercenary until I enjoy it. Force myself to like him

dreamy crow
#

Merc is rough on console

south mesa
#

I think using Merc's other abilities helps with the strain, but he is definitely the most mechanically skill heavy of the survivors when it comes to console

severe oar
#

I just find his skills to be boring, thats my issue

lethal shadow
#

I quite enjoy playing Merc. Never really had a problem with him as a PS player

noble fulcrum
#

I would never in a million years play risk of rain 2 without backpaddles, they just make every character flow better

brisk moth
#

i currently have sots and sotv, is AC worth getting?

severe oar
noble fulcrum
#

Id even settle for just 2, most of my controllers have 4 but even the switch 2 charging grip with the 2 paddles is wayyyyy better than without

#

Especially like how you can program them mid game like on steam deck unlike with the xbox elite where its a whole process

dreamy crow
#

If you're enjoying the other two.

severe oar
#

I can understand trigger stops not being necessary but paddles should be standard

noble fulcrum
severe oar
noble fulcrum
#

Yeah definitely

#

Back paddles should be standard, theres no reason I should have to stop moving my camera whenever i want to reload or jump

compact roost
noble fulcrum
#

I dont wanna have to claw grip it 😭

compact roost
#

That's how I've adapted to playing any console game

#

It took a heap of getting used to but now it works like a charm

severe oar
#

Before you get arthritis, just get a controller with paddles 🏓

noble fulcrum
#

I used to claw grip when trying to play echo in overwatch 1... not good

noble fulcrum
#

Like if i could go back snd make myself stop walking on my tip toes i would, gotta cut off those bad habits while you still can before you inevitably regret it

twilit vortex
#

Merc tbh is one of the funnest characters but he should get some buffs

regal edge
#

Merc is perfectly fine

dreamy crow
#

Merc is just not as good on console

regal edge
#

Eh fair

cold violet
#

I was just playing my first online game and my switch crashed. Does anyone know if this happens often on switch or was it just bad luck?

regal edge
#

It's very common

#

The Nintendo Switch version of the game is very bad

serene yoke
cold violet
white quarry
finite cradle
#

Yo I know I keep asking this but has anyone figured out how to unlock the demons and the crabs achievement on switch I think you can still do it with drifter or with simulacrum

#

That's what I been reading on reddit at least for the last 30 minutes

plush atlas
#

Fish

regal edge
#

It’s bugged again

#

Unless they do a final patch that fixes the bug, you’re stuck without a L_Gesture_of_the_Drowned

regal edge
#

Yea ik

harsh torrent
regal edge
#

For Switch?

dim bloom
#

Why does eclipse feel like it has appropriately working rng, while normal runs seem to be all the same on a given day? I just finished eclipse 2 for arti and will continue tomorrow, no deaths yet

#

Crazy different item pools whereas normal runs I always get same stages, items, and printers

quartz bay
#

probably just unlucky, playing on eclipse doesnt change the rng of the game

quartz rock
#

Does sotv change anything apart from the maps and items?

#

Is there secrets in these maps

quartz rock
#

what the fuck is a voidling

shut dust
#

Are the dlc's similar to tboi in the way that you have to buy them in a certain order?

#

Oop thought I was questions chat 😂

gloomy jasper
#

Hey can anyone recall if PS4 version on PS5 carries the same run history bricking?

rigid cipher
#

does anyone know if the switch 2 will still get dlc for risk of rain 2?

sweet edge
#

as far as we know, it will not

#

there's no switch 2 version, it's just the switch 1 version running on the new console

sacred harbor
white quarry
severe oar
#

Go upvote and hopefully they will see it

#

Not guaranteed but hey, we are close to 60!

timid socket
#

Do you think they'll ever add kbm support for ps5?

sweet edge
#

doubtful, but it's not impossible

timid socket
#

Surely it cant be hard, the ps5 already has support for kbm

sweet edge
#

it used to support kbm and they removed it. it's not about it being difficult or not, it just doesn't seem like something they want to do.

timid socket
#

But why take away a nice QoL feature for seemingly no reason

sweet edge
#

i dunno, i don't work for em lol

sand zephyr
#

Anyone else have very long times to find games on PS5?

quartz bay
dawn cargo
#

We need mods

sand zephyr
sweet edge
#

most people find their games through LFG / private matches.

last comet
#

Ror2 is the type of game where you have thousands of people playing but if you open the server browser you find like 4 Chinese servers and that’s about it

#

Playing with randoms is horrible because they hog all items and you end up underpowered when the difficulty scales up

sand zephyr
#

Mhm. I've found this game to be no different than most team based stuff in this style. I played exactly one game of Halo with a childhood friend of mine. His go to move at the very start of a campaign mission was to hit me in the back of my head and take all my ammo, forcing me to spawn back in with just a plasma pistol. I hated multiplayer games that let you screw over people ever since, lol

severe oar
sand zephyr
patent pelican
#

Any mention is switch 2 support? Or new dlc?

upper plaza
#

Is anyone playing on switch

severe oar
#

Not right now but my friend and I did play a few runs earlier

upper plaza
#

Who Still playing on Switch

dreamy crow
#

I do but dont have switch online

gleaming owl
#

do we know if there's any chance at all gearbox will at least try updating risk of rain 2 specifically for switch 2 for the DLC's? Maybe? Im huffing so much copium it's unreal

#

because IM TOO POOR FOR A F#&%ING STEAM DECK

dreamy crow
#

Uhhhh no

#

No idea

gleaming owl
#

gonna kms...In game

dreamy crow
#

I think we'll be getting the switch 1 version but just running at the power of the switch 2. Which is still nice

#

Or something idk

#

Im tired okay?

gleaming owl
#

i'm tired too... Tired of everything being so hard...

dreamy crow
#

I recently got the pc version and monsoon is so easy compared to even downpour on switch

#

Or whatever the medium difficulty is called

#

Rainstorm? Idk I dont play it

supple aspen
#

dude full honesty I feel bad for switch players having to wait I'm a PC player but my friend has a switch and I feel bad

robust thistle
#

he gotta buy it on pc

#

take it from me a former switch player who switched

gleaming owl
#

I can't take my PC on the go is why im sad

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I like playing games on the go and my switch 2 is nice for that and it has smash bros which you can't see anywhere else beyond the other 'smash clone' games but they don't hit the same as Smash Ultimate.

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Plus I've dedicated too much time to smash to learn a different game...

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buuut I do want a steam deck... But also this economy is so crap you can't even make money working a job unless you work multiple jobs and wear yourself out

robust thistle
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if i had a gaming laptop thats be perfect but my time on pc so far reached 10hrs just from yesterday(i cheated all unlocks obviously since on switch i grinded over 100hrs)

gleaming owl
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I did it all again on pc. I was having fun doing it

robust thistle
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i see

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i was desparate to try new survivors from sots and ac

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and i got a friend to play with me

stiff ledge
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i play on xbox, have a pc, but dont wanna loose my progress

hot hill
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You can just reunlock it all

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It's what I do

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With a mod

severe oar
vivid sky
robust thistle
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i am quiplash

short iris
thick solstice
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I do wonder who the new survivors are

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Though I do hope we get a weird survivor

severe oar
hot hill
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Unfortunately, still dead

hollow seal
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lets hope the artificer purchase bug is fixed with the next update/dlc

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🙏

robust thistle
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whats the bug

vernal peak
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Which console is this on?

hollow seal
# vernal peak Which console is this on?

Xbox, theres a frequent bug going around for us console players on PS and Xbox where, you just cant get artificer.

The prompt doesn’t show up, not in multiplayer, not alone, not after deleting and reinstalling the game, not offline, not online.

Having the money isn’t the issue either lol.

I’ve encountered 6+ people and myself. Its actually the only thing denying my 100%

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the only working solution is to data delete

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Like People can even buy artificer in my games and the animation plays out just fine

regal edge
hollow seal
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we dont 😭

regal edge
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That is true, but it doesn't help the fact that this bug exists

stable matrix
hollow seal
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might have been caused by having the first purchase being someone else in MY game. But thats just a theory. Got no clue if thats really why

stable matrix
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Damn that sucks, what a weird bug

dark arrow
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Is there any multiplayer connection issues for console rn? I’m tryna play w my brother but it keeps saying disconnected every time we try to join each other

gray stag
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I'm getting back into the game after a few years and saw that soon it won't support cross platform play between ps5 and ps4, I'm getting my friend into the game who plays on ps4. If I were to download the ps4 version of the game onto my ps5 would I run into any issues playing cross platform?

short iris
coarse knoll
severe oar
pale glade
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I got sent here by the 2k support does anyone know if I can recover my old cloud data my current data for corrupted and I lost a chunk of my progress I'm on Xbox.

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any help is really appreciated to my knowledge my other option is to pretty much just restart from my current point.

glass timber
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Anyone wanna private call and watch my gameplay and give me tips, I’m new, tryna learn, I have 4 hours

severe oar
weary mauve
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Switch 2 version yet?

hot hill
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I don't think there's going to be one at all

dreamy crow
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Not a switch 2 exclusive version

limpid kayak
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After 5 months, I finally made up my mind.

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Characters from the base game ranked by how fun I find them.

coral drift
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Finally some respect on Mul-T's name🥹🥹

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Really good list I approve of your opinion

robust thistle
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wtf is up with mul t stocks

limpid kayak
limpid kayak
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If you are asking why I enjoy playing with him, I can say that it is part of my extremely specific preference for characters that can transition from a weaponless, quick form to a slow, rapid fire one.
Such as Overwatch's Wrecking Ball, Garden Warfare 2's Citron, Go! Mecha Ball's Rascal...
Dynamic, hit and run characters.

gleaming owl
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I personally only enjoy Engineer's high damage output once he has items but beginning the game as engie is nothing but PRAYER. My enjoyment of Engie also comes from an enjoyment of 'summoners' in games overall. But my desire for damage and mobility outweigh it, hence Railgunner and Operator.

olive tulip
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Why is my game laggy at stage 23 on switch

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And why they invisible sometimes

regal edge
regal edge
olive tulip
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Ohhhh

regal edge
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You’re welcome

shy ruin
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I find scrapping monster tooth, ghor's tome, and bandolier to be particularly helpful for mitigating lag

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As well as deskplant

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Considering the switch (particularly og) struggles a good amount more with late loop runs, those items can really fuck with performance

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Even some dps items like molt perf or atg can be detrimental if you have insane proc rates for similar reasons

olive tulip
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Or mam

shy ruin
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Pretty much the throughline is try not picking up or just try scrapping items that provide effects that involve physics objects in some way to not lag loop runs as badly

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Its still gonna be a minefield of lag and crashes regardless BUT it'll lessen the chances

shy ruin
olive tulip
shy ruin
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It's more the physics objects stuff and extreme visual effects stuff lag ya, especially when it's easily spammable

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(Deskplant has extreme effects that lag the fuck out of even switch 2 basically the moment you pick it up since you can kill many enemies, thus spawning more)

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Fireworks also lags a lot

limpid kayak
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Engi's thing is that you are the maestro for your AI buddies' orchestra.

shy ruin
limpid kayak
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And, I'm sorry, but I like doing things myself when I'm playing a video game.

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Most of the time, for me, playing Engi demands too much effort to reach the point in which you can make no efforts.

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Bro slow, mainfire feels bad to use, needs to camp... Idk.

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"Eh" stands for "Ehngineer".

shy ruin
limpid kayak
shy ruin
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My main issue with engi is that you have to charge your primary rather than just shooting

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It can still be somewhat underpowered and slow but that whole fact makes him way less fun imo

limpid kayak
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Yeah.

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Returns' mainfires feel less painful.

shy ruin
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Exactly

limpid kayak
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Also, I'm very against the existence of bubble-shield.

shy ruin
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They're still somewhat jank and encourage turret use + whole kit usage, but they're an active skill rather than a ball and chain feeling

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I also am mixed on spidermines

limpid kayak
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They kinda wacky.

shy ruin
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Though I'm unsure what would work for engi specifically keeping theme

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A get off me tool like enforcer's knockback would make sense, but kinda just feels like pasting a random skill that doesn't befitt him

limpid kayak
limpid kayak