#ror2-console-discussion
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This is most likely. I just don't like that they're playing it off as technical limitations.
In PC there's a mod to unlock everything tho
But having to pay the game again sucks
Ror2 has a lot more things happening on screen at the same time that those games tho
And I say this as a switch player btw
It sucks but the console can barely move Solus wing
I don't have a PC to play it on and I don't like mods in general. I just want what I unlocked.
I will agree with leaving the Switch 1 behind. What I don't understand is not going to the Switch 2
The mod unlocks things and that it, as far as I know you can uninstall it after but yeah not having a pc sucks
Switch 2 isn't that powerful either and we don't really know if they're planning something (people are speculating about a switch 2 version announced 9th)
I strongly doubt it but we'll see
But I think it would depend on what the new dlc adds because again, Solus wing basically destroys the poor switch and even there GB executives are clearly pushing towards more dlc's instead of big fixes and performance updates
This is what I am hoping for
And the switch requires a lot of work rn, the memory leak bug is in the game since the devotion update lmao
True. But it's not like dlc adds to that chaos in a direct way, it just adds to the variations of that chaos. And take Hogsmead from hogwarts Legacy into consideration. They had to make a loading screen between Hogsmead and the rest of the world just for switch because of the constant activity.
The Switch 2 is on track to become the best selling console of all time. Why abandon that market.
Especially with the history the Switch has with the series.
Its the only console with Returns on it
Your a big Nintendo fan huh? It's cool don't get me wrong, but it's old tech. It was born outdated.
I'm not saying is impossible to run ror2 on switch 2 at around 30fps without major problems
Im just saying that is too much work rn for a company that clearly wants easy and fast money
And fixing bugs doesn't give you fast money
and risk of rain 2 is like a 7 year old game
The switch version is extremely broken rn
Everything but super computers of the highest level are outdated. The Switch 2 is plenty strong enough to handle RoR2
Oh more than enough. But so is my phone.🤣
what
Idk if more than enough tbh
My phone is capable of running RoR 2
Ror2 is an intensive game when you take into account item effects, enemies, bosses etc
Not even talking about looping
ror really isnt that bad
graphics can just be reduced, and its pretty light on ram
cpu is the only real limiting factor, and it doesnt require a great one at that
And so are the ps4 and xbox one but they're dropping those too
Switch 2 version is a pipe dream
Part of that has to be due to the user base of those systems dropping as more people move onto newer systems.
And are they going to say the Steam Deck is going to lose the ability to run the game? Its weaker than a Switch 2 with less users on it as well.
steam deck just runs the windows version
Yeah, the fuck you mean with that
The stream deck version is the steam version with some controls stuff
its the same build
Besides, they didn't mention userbase being the problem, they mentioned console power
If the windows version is capable of running on the Steam Deck, there is no reason the Switch 2 can't get a version
And the switch 2 is on par with last gen consoles
console power wasnt a problem for any of them except for switch 1
not really
bl4 makes me think we aint getting a switch 2 specific build
i hope that doesnt mean unoptimised crap..
Unplayable? It runs just fine on my Switch 2 (aside from crashing after long runs) so I am pressing X to doubt
logbook bug
It's a run reports bug, yeah
It's already taking like 10 seconds to even load the main menu and logbook
Let's see how long ago I brought this up
3 months ago
Awesome
If any devs are reading this, just to summarize, we are all totally on the same page and want a Switch 2 version 😏
I didn't say I didn't want it. I said it was most likely not happening
theres a risk...
Same here
rookie numbers
Question.. Playing split screen with my son on Xbox, yesterday he was under his own account but it had everything unlocked that I have, however normally it doesn't do that.
Was this a bug or a feature I'm missing? Lol
Multiplayer games share item unlocks
It's not consistent though, I was doing it with my brother and he had every survivor unlocked, but when we tried again he only had Commando and Huntress
Yea when he goes in as a guest under me he usually has the survivors but not their loadout unlocks, and under his own he doesn't have any of the survivors.
Yesterday he was under his own, had the survivors and their load out unlocks which was unusual
I tried going in and adding him every which way and couldn't recreate it, he was kinda bummed
My logbook is brokeb
Is this ps5 and can you even start a game?
Artificier is bad (Kidding)
I hate fighting wisps with it, I just got really bad luck
Also Clay dunstriders can just die.. holy fuck I got swarmed by one + Imps and I just couldnt dodge
SO for a good run, 5 mins per level right? get what you can and move on right?
Hmm I Might try a run with just the monster drops item artifact
no thats bad advice, full loot efficiency
learning stuff like the stage layout, what items to prioritize from multishops/printers helps alot
Ohhh okay
If you loot well you outscale the enemies unless you spend like 50 minutes on a stage or just get the worst possible items back to back
I just try to scour the map and it usually takes me like...7 minutes, depending on if I got speed loot
I try to constantly move so I can use big AOEs and stuff
pretty satisfying when you can hit those
though wisps are absolute nightmares starting out
Haaaaaah
Most simple counters to em are repulsion armor plate and personal shield gen so if u see a printer or trishop with em you should definitely get atleast one
How good does this game run on Series S?
What do you guys thiink the new dlc will be about
hmm I wonder, should I use artifact of sacriice on monsoon to atleast make it abit easier?
n'kuhana or however you spell it
Haven’t had any issues with it so far but tbf I’m pretty new still so I’ve only been able to loop like 3 times
Maybe 6 years ago, yea
Nowadays, it’s about looting the entire stage as fast as you can
You can go even further by trying to ensure the best/most loot possible via macro
I think it’s a double-edged sword
Yea, chests won’t show up anymore, but you have to wait for enemies to give you items, meaning your seed might just screw you over when it comes to item frequency
It also devalues economy items like
and 
Yeah turning that off
I’d say if you’re gonna use Sacrifice and wanna maximize its potential, you’ll want to turn on Swarms as well
But that’s just me, and I don’t really use Artifacts
Has anyone else had their other dlc taken away
No but the way the xbox dlc works, it can look like that
Yea I am on it smh
Yeah, if you start the game without internet, the dlc won't work
Because the xbox doesn't store the dlc license locally, it has to download it everytime is starts up
I mean, if they were going to fix that, they've had plenty of chances
It's not technically a bug
yeah :/
My situation is I used to play a lot before alloyed came out I recently just redownloaded and now none of my saved data for the dlc is there still have achievements tho lol
I fucking hate clay dunestriders
Maybe artificier is not at all good for monsoon yet
unlock ion surge
I Did
I unlocked everything for her so far
and now im just trying to clear The game
ion surge + hover makes artificer almost untouchable
Im about to rage quit
only really have to worry about false son phase 1
im not but damn, lemme get to stage 3 please
why are you staying in murder range? literally be above that
Gotta charge the portal
kill the boss then charge
Does the ion jump lead into hover or do I need to hover after?
you need to activate hover manually
Thats what keeps tripping me up
getting the timing right is a bit hard since it prevents you from turning it on for a half second or so after using ion surge
There’s a setting to make Hover activate either on toggle or on hold, so experiment with each to see which suits you best
Dlc 4?
Idk if it's a bug or if I'm just incredibly unlucky, but I've gone into dozens of runs over the last week or so trying to find the log entries specifically for Wetland Aspect, Treeborn Colony, & Repurposed Crater. I've gone to each stage at least 5 times and not ONCE has a radar tower spawned for any of them. I'm even playing with Swarms enabled to so they'd have a higher chance to spawn.
swarms doesn't affect interactibles
So using Swarms to get rid of the chests doesn't give the game master a higher chance of spawning a radar tower?
swarms doubles enemy spawns and halves hp
sacrifice removes chests and makes items drop from enemies
Fucking awful
literally fly away
Fuck off cunt what do you fucking think im trying to do
skill issue
relax
Ooooooh, right. Sacrifice is what I was using, I just got the names mixed up. That's my bad.
I mean if you want 
I personally don't use Lunars cause it makes me feel stinky doodoo caca
Well if I wanna unlock the heretic I should
You don't unlock the heretic for future runs
How bad is the multiplayer on switch?
it is lag
don’t loop
my switch crashed when I did
Sounds like the Nintendo Switch
Average switch experience
Chat any tips for someone who wants to beat Solus wing and heart with Loader but really sucks/doesn't like playing her?
loop till everything dies in 1 punch
...fair
But looping on switch is kind of painful
Perhaps invest in
or 
I Am so tired of just reaching the third stage, than suffering and dying in monsoon.
I am growing to hate artificier
And that's ok, not everyone prospers with every character
Not all characters are for everyone
Ice spear and ice wall are your best tools, the freeze effect is too strong
if you manage to get a tesla coil (iirc the chef recipe is ukelele and razerwire) and a single gasoline it pretty much trivializes most of solus heart's attacks
any sort of aoe, even a single gas makes solus heart incredibly easy, the only thing youd have to worry about is dodging the giant lazers
Oh my god i just realized how dead this chat will be with no switch or last gen players doen the road, rip
nexoultr was banned.
What is ur main in ror2
thats slightly wrong, because I would talk more if that was the case
I mean, it's not like last gen players will be banned from the chat
But there is no incentive to engage with the community anymore
Whos we
The we in question:
the french
Ew
People would yap in other channels
gearbox make this chat exclusively for last gen players only and ban everyone else from it!
We have so many mutual servers omg
Im still here and I don't even have switch dlc.
Maybe they don't read it but if they do, we need people to upvote feedback like this if you play on Switch 2
Guys sense ps4 is gonna stop getting updates I decided to just get a job and save for the ps5

(Should have put this first so I am adding it with an edit) I used artifact of command and artifact of sacrifice.
Gloobo Jr was a big help when I did it. Also you can just grapple and stand on the top and beat the weak spots. You'll need to be able to tank a bit.
With the mega lasers, use the circuits around the map to dodge or just fall off the back of it and make it spin 180 to try to catch up, usually the laser ends before it gets back to you
This was all in one run without looping.
Switch 2 is 800 dollars where I live. I am NOT getting that lol. Good to know though
Got this last night, pretty sure this is one of the only few areas where four of the five portal types can show up
I love brilliant behemoth but mostly for the visual effect
Is behemoth not just an extra 60 percent damage or does the aoe damage not apply to the enemy hit directly
its an effective 60% more damage but it comes as a second 0 proc coeff hit
Well that’s fair because it would practically be a clover if it did have a co
Imagine clover but it gave you 60 percent more damage and aoe on hit
That would be so balanced
Anyone playing on Playstation
What do the options when selecting a dlc in the downloadable content section do?
it's like a vote. the golden highlight is a vote to activate the dlc during the run, the red highlight/x is to vote against activating the dlc during the run
Speaking of voting, go upvote this so we can let them know that we want a Switch 2 version
I dont think thats gonna work
Best we can do is pray that they decide to not leave the version as a broken mess and get like at least one more patch in to fix the severe issues
As much as I wish for a switch 2 version...
I’m hoping an announcement happens in the triple initiative or I will probably just accept it’s not happening anytime soon
Something needs to happen, otherwise they lose 1/20th of the playerbase
Well, you could say that about a lot of things
We got a stinker here
Is there any other way for me to the get the pause. achievement on console it won’t let me buy the character that’s stuck
nope, you either have to delete your save and hope the game lets you buy her or pray gearbox patches it in a future update
Do you know how to delete the save I tried deleting my data in the manage settings but it didn’t do anything
its been a while since i last played the game on my ps5 so i dont know unfortunately
Ah no worries then thanks for the heads up
U gotta go into your settings i believe
Storage, console storage, games and apps
Nvm i thought u were on ps5
lol no on Xbox I appreciate the attempt tho
Go to games & apps, go to ror2, go to saved data, delete that
You’re awesome thank you
Don't lose hope, its all we have right now.
So is the game gonna still receive updates on switch 2? I saw that announcement about discontinued support for ps4, xbone, and switch. Is there a switch 2 upgrade version of the game yet?
We have no idea
All we can do is upvote stuff like this
Is anyone on PlayStation willing to help me with the long road trophy? It is the last trophy I need for the platinum
Uhh
Wots the long road trophy?
20 stages in one run I think
Ez as hell
@soft flume Ok dude, my bad big bro 💀

Just play on easy
If you have seeker of the storm use the false son
I got to stage 20 and died because something blocked my healing
Big fan of Malachites
Do you know what that sounds like
A skill issue
Guys, we are at 28 upvotes! Let's keep it going so they know we want a Switch 2 version
They know people want a switch 2 version, but they must have reasons for not delivering. Atp a switch 2 version is super unlikely no matter how many upvotes a message in the feedback channel gets. Then again if they announce it at the Triple I then yknow that’s great but my money is on there being no switch 2 announcement.
Also to my knowledge that feedback channel seems to be pretty defunct
As in, no devs are ever checking it, at least that’s how it seems
Damn that’s unfortunate
Would rather they fix the artificer bug first
Fr just reset my save the other day cause I wanted to go for the 100%
Yeah why even have these channels if no one will look 😔
they were checked more when the game was in early access + after launch
Well still, maybe if they happen to see it and see 100+ votes it will catch their eye
Thats my goal
TIL: elder lemurians can spray while in drifter bag
Good run, yes?
Holy peak
Is there a switch 2 version in the works jw
Not that we know of
No but you can help us try to get their attention by upvoting this
Which add-on should I obtain first (just beat the game)
Like as in dlcs?
I'd say survivors of the void would be a good entry, its not too complex and adds a lot to the main gameplay loop
AC probably second as it feels more balanced
Sots still good but someone has to be in last place, unfortunately
Thank you
Hey anyone wanna play a monsoon run?
SotV would be probably the best since the content it adds interacts with the main path, but if you want a new objective to go to (as in a new boss or something) I would say Seekers of the Storm, then SotV to shake the normal gameplay and then Alloyed Collective
^ AC last because imo it ramps up the difficulty a bit which can be overwhelming for a relatively new player
This ever happen to anyone else, this is an old version so im pretty sure it is fixed so
Im assuming you died during meditate
That did often cause some jank
What items do I need to activate bands on serrated dagger? It’s seems like even though I have lots of focus crystals and crowbars I haven’t been able to activate bands
Bands dont activate with damage increasing items
If the base damage isnt 400% or more it will not proc bands
It used to work with damage increasing items but that was patched out like over 2 years ago
💔✌️
who wants to play (playsation)
is that a yes
Would but I’m on Xbox boss
You’re just more likely to get someone in there than here
just wait until crossplay is announced tommorow trust
Praying but not getting my hopes up
Just got into the game and I’m already addicted if they added it I’d probably put the game in my top 5
And a Switch 2 version 😏
Is this supposed to happen?
Yeah uh, don't ever pick up a stationary enemy with a transport drone
Does anyone know if cross platform is going to be added cause thatd be peak
Extremely extremely unlikely
Basically zero chance. Especially with switch.
Since they said they are leaving past gens behind, I am hoping for a Switch 2 edition and then crossplay with that
Does switch 2 count as a next gen, because it wasn't mentioned in their announcement.
I don't know. It either (1) feels like they were saving the announcement of a Switch 2 version until it was ready to show, (2) testing to see if there was enough enthusiasm for it, or (3) just trying to avoid saying they would be abandoning Switch players
Really hoping it was option 1
Option 2 still has some hope
Option 3 is just terrible
I really want option 1 because I really want the fourth dlc.
in order to add cross play, they'd have to essentially re-work the back ends of each individual version, and then add dedicated servers. not impossible, but for a 7 year old game, not super likely.
I thought awhile back they mentioned getting each version to the same update revision.
Thats not a full step all the way to crossplay but definitely a step towards it.
Its just a hope obviously, even if its unlikely
Thats why we need to vote on stuff like this! Sure its unlikely they see it, but maybe if I get 100 upvotes or something it will catch their eye. Let them know we want a Switch 2 version.
We sit at 35 right now which seems like quite a lot compared to most feedback. Just need to keep it going
same 'version' just means parity across content, not that the back ends of each version are the same
e.g. the pc/steam version relies on Steam's networking to connect to other people.
When you go and put in the code to unlock the rune for metamorphosis does it changes your current survivor?
Only half a year later and gearbox is already announcing another dlc
Already a new DLC?
Well no Switch 2 announcement.
Dang guess I'll never buy anymore RoR2 stuff, that sucks if they just abandon Switch players but I will not stop asking for one
Will the dlc be available on the normal switch?
Nope
Aw damn it
What if we had double the dlcs, wouldn’t that be awesome. Maybe Quad!
The dlc looks cool as heck too thats so dumb☹️
I guess option 1 is still possible but not close, hoping they are at least open to option 2, option 3 would be devastating
Option 3 would be terrible tbh
part of me is coping that we just see a Switch 2 version announced in an eventual Nintendo Direct 
The Switch 1 is very close to becoming the best selling console of all time, the Switch 2 is outselling the Switch 1 if you track them at similar times from their release.
To me it just seems crazy to not make a Switch 2 version. Why abandon a huge player base like that?
And other than this, I have no idea how to make our voices heard so please go upvote...even if they rarely if ever check it out
Hopefully there will no longer be a switch release delay
As of now, nothing else will ever release on the Switch 1 or 2
I hate gearbox
is this a joke or serious?
What annoys me a lot (not the most, but a lot) is that if they abandon us Switch (2) players, they'll still continue to leave gyro controls out from the PS5 version which is what I'd then move too.
I wish this game would not become such a dlc slop game
i hadnt kept up with any news for a while now
100% serious, they announced no more Switch 1 support and never mentioned Switch 2 so unless they do, Switch is just done
this is what's listed for release in the trailer
That's so sad
This again again
Upvote where?
Also fr, why isn't gyro controls enabled on the PS5 version?
Click the link and go give a thumbs up. Its unlikely they will see it but who knows
Thanks
Yeah thats where im at now, switch was best for me so I could pick up and put down whenever I wanted + the awesome gyro support
Ok serious question where is the switch 2 label on that dlc
Its been out for just about a year now
I have a feeling they won't bother with the switch 2
if only
Any reasoning for that assumption?
I can't say I've ever seen a company literally abandon a massive chunk of their player base but okay
Its on series S and switch 2 is better than that.
It wasn't mentioned in the announcement
Despite not being gen 8
I dont remember them talking about switch 2 at all.
Tbh I wouldnt really blame them with how much of a pain making the changes for the switch version specifically seem to have been
I don't know why they decided to make different versions of the game for each console
Makes crossplay almost impossible for the future and adds an extra hassle
I understand why switch 1 was dropped as soon as switch 2 came out
They should've just spent more time making all versions the same
Its a potato
I think they were both dropped
i mean, it was originally developed by a team of 3-4 people for PC, and the console ports were done by a third party company
I'm saying gearbox screwed us over
I know it would've been harder to make it all one version
But it would have been better in the long run
it's not really gbx's fault specifically, i don't think
That's what Terraria is doing I think
crossplay wasn't as huge as it is now back in 2019
So is dlc 4 releasing on switch 2? I knew old gen consoles were discontinued but one of my friends only play on switch 2 and it would be a shame if his only device was discontinued already and I dont see anything its saying it will come to switch 2
seems like it's not on switch 2
New risk on rain content is not coming to switch 2
its always bugged me because they go out of their way to specifically say Gen 8 when they mentioned Switch, but not follow up
The switch 2 didn't even get improved graphics
The switch one is a pile of crap but the 2 could absolutely run the same graphics every other device does
But they didn't bother so I'm certain they don't care about either switch console
Then again I am a little stupid because its also just them saying Gen 8 as the collective term for those consoles

Collective?
Which is entirely disingenuous of them, assuming that is what they're doing
What?
Tbh, switch 2 version at this point would be better than series x/s cuz I strongly believe xbox does not have much time left, at least as a console brand
What what
True true
I'm just sick of the switch 2 not being recognized on the same level as ps and Xbox because of all the petty lies spread about it
Aside from the short handheld battery life I think it's a really solid console
when they sent that initially, I had assumed they left switch 2 out because they were sitting on a s2 version announcement. but looking back now, it seems clear that they're just moving forward with ps/xb/pc
W gearbox
Top charging port kinda negates that downside for me personally ngl
I just really cope beyond hope that there will be... 😓
Maybe they'll release it on switch 2 later like alloyed collective
I mean, the writing was on the wall. They were dropping support for older or lower powered consoles. Makes sense that switch 2 wasn't getting a version
But it isn't old or low power
Switch 2 isnt low power lol
I refuse to believe this dlc is gonna have things that gen 8 consoles can't handle
I am mad at the fact that they left switch in the state that it is now locking updates behind DLCs mostly saying that there is no more updates for the console
It's about equivalent to a ps4 or xbone but portable
Ror is a well optimized game
And they're dropping support for those
I think they just don't want to do the extra work
Honestly
I agree
I just wish they weren't fuckin pussies dancing around whether they will or won't and just SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH SWITCH 2
Plus if this dlc is some visual masterpiece that fries your eyes then the rest of the game will look awkward
I have a friend that plays on ps4 that I won't get to anymore
This. Just spit it out already so I can adjust.
The idea of a non triple A company ditching consoles is crazy
It wasn't listed on systems in the trailer. It ain't happening
This is team cherry and lack of updates again I don't like this bullshit
Real
Similar to No Man's Sky and the Switch 1, but even they eventually pulled it off despite the lack of communication
Unfortunately they have a history of contradicting trailers and announcements so we really can't know
For me, I found the RoR series on Switch when the first one launched there.
Then I got RoR2 and got friends to get both and RoRR because that was also the secondary console we all had.
So lack of crossplay is the main reason we all play there aside from me being the first one to get it there and everyone else just following.
Now I won't buy it again due to lack of crossplay because I won't be able to play with those friends anyway and lack of crossprogression because I don't want to have to unlock everything again. Thats just a lot of work
They haven't told us yet because these jackasses haven't even figured it out themselves
The chance is low enough to discard
I don't even need a long extravagant note I just need a register that they have a pulse 😭
The chance is inconsistent
You really can't make any statement on it
I'd rather they say no then change their minds later than just not saying anything
i'm pretty sure it's more about what's going on under the hood and how well the system can render it vs how beautiful the game is, unfortunately. none of the gen 8 consoles run the game at 60fps
This, its not unplayable rn, but its in a state where I would absolutely not reccomend anyone buy it
I'm telling you the switch 2 can easily run this stuff bro 😭😭
oh i'm not saying about switch 2, i mean switch 1/ps4/xbo
I don't think anyone has hope for the gen 8 consoles anymore
i was playing on the switch 2 for a while before i got my pc besides the resolution shit runs better than the ps5 version does lol
I'm talking about the switch 2
I know but it's still a pain in the ass
Oh yeah totally, there is 0 excuse for waiting months after every other console and STILL releasing in a bad state
Okay why is this Stuff guy genuinely just a pessimist
Like can I help you bro
Drifter being glitched sometimes the random stuttering, crashing, everything being distant roost in the log book, the lack of the lunar coin icon and probably some other things that I haven't ran into yet oh and massive desync where I'm on a completely different stage as the other person is far off into the run
My favorite part of alloyed collective is how they unironically added lag
Before the game used to run very smoothly
But ever since the day I got alloyed collective the game stutters in the first 5 seconds of a run before working normally
How do you even let that happen
How do they mess up the log book it shouldn't be that hard or that icon for lunar coins
Make sure to at least take us out to dinner before fucking us
They as far as I'm aware still haven't managed to bring Borderlands 4 to Switch 2 and I don't believe they announced a cancelation yet either, right? Gearbox just seems really incompetent when it comes to the Switch (2)
Everything being distant roost in logbook what? 😭 Do you have a picture lol, I stopped playing ror2 all together with the poor switch launch of AC so I only really knew about the performance issues
Its also super odd to abandon Switch because it has been a good home for the series. Its still the only console RoRR is on
RIGHT?
Yeah,they just silently stopped mentioning that it was supposed to release.... in September
Just give me a second to get it
Gearbox just seems really incompetent when it comes to anything
If you search up anything about gearbox you'll see people talking about their atrocious reputation
i thought that already released like 5 months ago is that not out lmao
BL4 has been indefinitely delayed for switch 2 yeah
Guest account btw 
Well at least 37 of us want a Switch 2 version !!!
Nope its been "delayed" but with 0 word on it since it feels more like silently cancelled
Why tf would someone downvote or say nah
it does 1 for each by default
i remember seeing preorders for that they are probably fucked
Awful person
Did I forget to mention the fact that you still cannot get the demons in the crabs achievement
I've been stressing over that fucking achievement for like a year
It's the only thing I needed for 100% before alloyed collective
Oh I just suck at trying to get that one. Gave up.
It's not huge, I'm sorry to say
And I can't even ignore it because it's a really good item
yall got any stages
we got distant roost
I think they got refunds, they announced it was delayed like a week or 2 before it was supposed to come out
Good thing you know everything right? 🧐
Do we have numbers on how many players are on Switch? I'd love to see sales numbers
Uh idk
And nintendo doesnt actually take the money for preorders until 1 week before release
Isaac emote, nice 😎
How bad the hardware is
I swapped off of Switch as soon as I got a PC
Uh oh guys
HE isn't using the switch
I guess nobody else is
Like genuinely what are you talking about
You made a claim about the size of the ror switch player base
With no proof other than the fact that you don't use it anymore
I SAID NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT
same the night alloyed collective came out my last pc parts were coming in like 2 days and i was so desperate to play it i got out my shitty gaming laptop, rebought everything and was hitting like 40fps against alloy hunter 💔
THE SWITCH RUNS LIKE SHIT AND THERE'S BEEN A MEMORY LEAK FOR A LONG TIME
Oh wow they have a console discussion? Man we aint ever getting crossplay 😭🥀
Most people have gave up hope
People don't talk about the game regardless
no see i get where hes coming from because yeah its always been the worst version of ror2, so if you got the option to change, you might as well
It's weirdly a popular game that doesn't get discussed
A lot of people know it but just don't talk about it
Calm your tits dude
Bad software has never stopped switch players from taking up a majority of game communities
It's just the most accessible console for a lot of people
its just that theres always gonna be a number of people that wont ever get/have the chance to swap so its all theyve got
I don't think I can't support risk of rain 2 anymore
I'll still support the other ones but not 2
i mean tbf switch is the smallest playerbase here in the discord
It's not ridiculous to say that
I have the choice to play most games I'm interested in on either PS5 or Switch (2) and I almost always go with Switch
Why bud?
tldr; man im just gonna play returns
A lot of people use switch as a secondary console
That's it's biggest strength
Playing it rn lol. Im tryna achieve all providence skins real quick and im fully done
I mean is it not obvious they don't care for the game anymore and just see as another IP to just sell out on
fork found in sink (the ror team have been really nice recently tho)
I mean they canceled hostile worlds so
Well for 1, ror2 doesn't seem to be getting a Switch 2 edition or the new dlc
😅😓
Literally a wolf in sheep's clothing
The team can be good but the company is still bad
yeah thats what i meant
I doubt the people working on the games like when this bullshit happens
I still love the game just not the direction the games heading into
For it i see it as it can be a hit or miss. Tbh yea i was like confused on how freaking fast a new dlc came out but i mean- i play this game a lot. I finished alloyed collective challenging myself and all, so hearing a new dlc was like- “oh wow more content for me.”
Now unless you talking about how they dont fix certain things thats been a problem for so long i mean…yea i see that lol
gearbox is the most easy game company to slander i can think of
When AC came out for switch I could hardly enjoy it because all I could think about was how this was the last update switch players were getting
Exactly
Wow i didnt even know that, ts sucks
EA, Microsoft, and Ubisoft feel left out
I was literally geeking out for months waiting for it to release
I always saw this game being a “mainly pc” game
And I also wanna add that they didn't fix any of the bugs that where introduced or the new crashes that AC added
And when they released it along with the announcement I was pissed
I haven't even done like 10 runs since I bought it
I can't play the game anymore without feeling completely bummed
Yeah it just seems they want switch players to shut up and buy their game on a different platform
AND AGAIN, if I ever decide to permanently switch (no pun intended 😭) to playing RoR2 on PS5, why is there still no gyro control option???
Like bro I only am on switch because of 3 reasons 1 it's cheeper then a PC 2 it's got Nintendo games and 3 I enjoy handhelds more then consoles
The people at the top of gearbox should stop thinking about risk of rain and start thinking about how they're at a risk of getting railed by the community
They need to get their shit together
I hope the company higher ups at gearbox as screwed up as this sounds lose the rights to risk of rain 2 or even go bankrupt
We can use this I stoled it from the meme section
Cause that shits ass that we consoles constantly get shat on one by one everyday with everything
If we want their freakin' N'kuhana's opinion, we'll give it to them
Risk of rail 2: the communities opinion 
Even tho im a Xbox series player upgrading ur consoles to the New gen ones seems rlly expensive cuz of the ram shortage that has be going on
Open the window gearbox
Risk of constipation 2 electric shit-a-loo
You know one thing that surprises me is that crypt of the necrodancer has cross play and has in-game modding on switch in this game doesn't have either
I know that it's possible it will never come through
Yeah how come indie devs do better then others like come on people get your act straight
All I'm saying is we console players need to protest gearbox PEACEFULLY
And not buy their slop fest of games
Gearbox takes the Fuel Array from the escape pod and dies on the first stage every time.
Same here, I haven't even plugged the dock for my switch 2 yet 😭
Just using a nintendo switch charger
I don't like switch 2 or modern gaming because you don't own ANYTHING anymore and you are force to like it
It sucks they way humanity is going
More specifically gaming
Peacefully make your voice heard by giving this a thumbs up to let them know we want a Switch 2 version
I don't think they listen
I highly doubt they even read that channel anymore
Buy physical, its what I do. My RoR2 copy is the physical cartridge
We don’t need another switch version I believe
Its all we got
Not every game is physical
I'm just gonna be playing other games until they say something ngl
Yeah thats the worst
Make that 40!
a new DLC was announced? great... shame i won't be able to play it since i play on switch... let me know when the game gets a switch 2 edition
Idk if this is allowed, but please go like and repost my tweet (I'm not trying promote myself, just want to bring more attention to the want of a Switch 2 Edition/ Upgrade and the new DLC)
https://x.com/i/status/2042288037627867418
If this is a violation of some rule, I'll apologize and remove this.
@RiskofRain For the love of N'kuhana, please please PLEASE continue support for Nintendo Switch players via the means of a Switch 2 upgrade/ edition! And seriously, add gyro controls to PS5 & Xbox already.
It's replying directly to their recent posts about the new DLC
Done
Just so more eyes can be on our dissatisfaction with them
Yeah, i play on PC normally but it’s a huge shame that it could not be arriving on the switch 2. I think its the best way to play imo 🤷♂️
Someone mentioned gyro for the PS5, Switch 2 could add mouse support as well
I guess it's a spreading of negativity (not that I was helping) but like what the hell is the problem with people like this (I'm already aware of my own problem, thank you)? Excuse me for wanting to continue playing a game I love on hardware that it already has a home on.
https://x.com/i/status/2042313126100844863
@ZeroPrime20 @GearboxOfficial @RiskofRain Counter point switch ports are always useless cause they’re terrible hardware and a net loss for every dev
Oh switch bad so all switch bad me bad you bad Nintendo bad. So exhausting.
Anyway, that's enough of that.
Is the new DLC going to come to Switch or are they not supporting it anymore, the trailer didn’t list switch in the platforms it’s coming to
We don't know
i hope it does. if it doesn’t i can just buy it on steam and then edit my save to get all my previous progress back
as of right now it's not coming to switch
because like uh
you can do that right???
yes, very easily
I mean, I'm not sure on save editing but there's a mod to just reunlock whatevet
what’s it called and what mod thing is it on? is it just workshop?
ohhh
In short they have stopped support for 8th gen consoles including switch we have no clue if they'll add a switch 2 version at some point but I won't get my hopes up
Do you guys think that with the new dlc we going to get crossplay
Hey hold on I had that pfp for a bit
The new dlc looks really interesting
Dont worry you guys. Theyll release it sometime soon. Been a pattern ive been seeing for a while now. 😂 be like a big reveal or something.
41!
47 now
beenewin18 was banned.
Alright
We need cross playyy I wanna play ror2 with my console friends 😭
Pretty much zero chance of that
It is what it is
Yeah they lazy as frick jk
why did i get a ping here? i checked here and there was no ping recently
was it this bot that got banned
Yes
Im sorry what happened? What they say?
Don't worry, just a bot
im truly risking my rain rn
I keep on getting more vict- I mean players to try the game
Hi! Just wondering, do we know if the new dlc will be on switch?

how to reject / accept the offering of the collective? (DLC)
to reject it you kill solus heart
can someone check if on bandit i have to reject / accept the offering of the collective? (DLC)
Accept
ty
Uhhhhhh
I think
The boss is on 1 hp so after that interact with the orb and don’t kill it, I’m not 100% sure tho
Idk i haven’t gotten to that part
You have to beat the boss and you have to either interact with it to accept or shoot it to reject
I just got back into play ror2 today, I genuinely forgot how great this game's soundtrack is lmao
Fr this is probably one of the only games where I’ll listen to the soundtrack instead of Spotify
are oldgen consoles still able to play multiplayer or did they already pull the plug
not yet
I think even after they pull the plug they will still be able to play with themselves, just not current gen
Right? Or are they just shutting down all multiplayer?
i believe just crossgen multiplayer is no longer gonna be supported, although i feel itll still work fine if lets say the ps5 player just plays the ps4 version of the game
i tried going into multiplayer today and i could either not connect or disconnected instantly
in the multiplayer menu it was endlessly loading
multiplayer in ror2 is peer to peer it still gonna work just way less populated obviously
Has the "Demon and the Crabs" acheivment been fixed for switch?
Should’ve been for a while
It has been fixed for a bit buuuut it broke again and is currently also still broken
Bruuuuh
At least gearbox should be aware of it rn
I do really hope it, along with all the other bullshit, compels them to still do one finishing patch for the switch
I really need gesture 🙁
Any way to play with friend on pc? I’m on xbox, or nah
:( rip, why thoooo
So many friends who only have it on pc, sad days
HOW DO I UNLOCK THE SEEKER'S ALTERNATIVE ABILITY FOR SOULJOURN
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and why is it so hard
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you can easily do it on stage one if you use artifacts like command, sacrifice, swarm and kin (preferably get an enemy like a beetle) and stack items like crowbars, focus crystals, delicate watches and repulsion armor plates
also maybe a cautious slug or two to heal quickly if you fail an attempt
thank you :]
youre welcome
also iirc the 500k% damage doesn't have to be on a single enemy, you can hit a group of enemies and get the achievement much quicker
I did it on accident. It’s really not that difficult 😭
Unless I’m thinking of the wrong thing
So what's this about
what did you do
what in the actual VOID did you do?¿?
Loaded into solutional haunt and it was just like rhat
Nintendo Switch
Luckily my friend activated the cutscene and it fixed
Wait not that's XBox
that is something
I thinkkkk its just something with railgunner cuz something similar happened before on PC when I played her
Loaded into stage 2 and my screen was all orange
in all the time i have played in my ps4 nothing like that ever happend to me
and side note i had that ps4 for over 8 years
Also why did this happen
were you on multiplayer?
i have no clue
Shaped glass happened
I like artifact of prestiege
True power
Hey is it possible still to do 20 hermit crabs off stage or no
I'm on switch 1
@wispy crypt
Do you know?
Can you give me a tip to get the Berzerker's Pauldron
I can't seem to be able to get it.
They did patch it once but it broke again, at least they should be aware of the issue though
Maybe they will do one last switch fix 🤞
Hey chat, has anyone tried switch local coop? Does it work better than online?
And also, how exactly does playing online work? If I make a room I'm hosting it and the people that play with me are connecting to me?
yes, the game is p2p, so you need to make sure the host has a stable connection
local co-op is going to have less lag for joining players than online would, but if you're playing online with someone in the same country, it shouldn't be a big deal in the first place
Thanks ^^
By local I assume you don't mean on the same system and instead mean wireless with multiple Switches all near each other
Yeah I don't think the switch has split screen lol
it really pains me that ive bought ror2 and all the dlcs for the switch versionand now if i wanna continue playing the new content i would have to rebuy it all on steam
🏴☠️
good point
Yeaaa
Honestly, as much as a dick as I'd sound by saying this, but ya should've just bought it on Steam in the first place

yeah i should have just had a pc duhh
also all my friends only have switches and thers no cross play so i would have to get it on switch
Hey y'all, thinking about getting ror2, does anyone play on ps5? Don't have a pc so it's my only option, if it plays well I'll definitely get it
It plays good on ps5 yeah
We just got a new member acu-
They're here right now lol
I bought ror2 last night, highly enjoy it, and i play on PS5!
I have been summoned lol
Sweet! gonna pick it up tonight
It sucks how they dropped the last gen consoles without any reason really
I need to upgrade to series x already
but not before they port risk of rain returns to xbox because I NEEED ITTTT
Even if its unlikely they see it we have to try
i really wouldn't count on that ever happening :p
Well the next Xbox is going to be able to play PC games so maybe 🤷♂️
But its more like Xbox is coming to RoRR instead of RoRR coming to Xbox
like xbox users will able to use storefronts like gog or steam?
that sounds interesting
Thats what it seems like
Will there be a switch two version, because my Windows computer is 10 years old and overheats on minecraft, so I don't want to kill it by getting ror2 on it.
No confirmation or deconfirmation however it seems incredibly unlikely
🙁
Its also gonna be like 1200 dollars so you might as well just get a pc
@vernal peak just going to drop this link again
Thanks
Is there any discussion for the game to become cross-play?
nope. not impossible but not something they've ever talked about doing.
The pain i have when all my friends are on Ps
Same
We all gotta get the Gabe Cube (if ai doesnt price it outta existence)
Is there any saving/data issues in Xbox? I got false son a couple days ago, got alloyed collctive today and now he’s locked again
If thats your experience... then id say yeah, this kinda stuff seems to be more common than it should be
Never had save issues myself but ive seen others over the years struggle
Blehhhhh
This, but all my friends have a PC while i have a PS5.
Pc while on Xbox :( no cross play seriously blows
Tell me about it...
I got one for each of mine so I could play with frens
Unfortunately multiplayer barely works properly even without crossplay. Would be a big task to get that going
Outside of crashing on runs ≈ 2 hours long (occasionally shorter runs but that is rate) the Switch has always done well for me. Think I'd just stop playing if my save got wiped or something like the stories I have seen on other platforms
Same, lost save data is 100% a never put time into this game again thing cuz who knows when you'll have all your work taken from you again
Plus at least switch cloud saves (for those who have nso) are actually good, unlike whatever spaghetti pile xbox is using, coming from a former xbox only person
With there still being version specific bugs that will likely never be fixed, yeah it’s uh not happening
It would genuinely take a miracle
Ror2 has way to many bugs for them to fix on top of releasing a new dlc
My headcanon is that beetles have always been able to phase through solid rock, we just didn't care to notice until now
Thats so real
They just have the phineas and ferb molecular scrambler clearly
Man. I just don't enjoy playing Mercenary at all and REX feels meh to me. I pretty much enjoy all the others.
Due to this, i think I might just play Mercenary until I enjoy it. Force myself to like him
Merc is rough on console
I think using Merc's other abilities helps with the strain, but he is definitely the most mechanically skill heavy of the survivors when it comes to console
I just find his skills to be boring, thats my issue
I quite enjoy playing Merc. Never really had a problem with him as a PS player
I would never in a million years play risk of rain 2 without backpaddles, they just make every character flow better
i currently have sots and sotv, is AC worth getting?
4 Paddles should become standard on all controllers.
Its been awhile since controllers added inputs but playing with paddles is a game changer.
Id even settle for just 2, most of my controllers have 4 but even the switch 2 charging grip with the 2 paddles is wayyyyy better than without
Especially like how you can program them mid game like on steam deck unlike with the xbox elite where its a whole process
Absolutely
If you're enjoying the other two.
I don't have any on my Switch controllers but I always use all 4 on my Scuf for my Xbox. It just makes every game better
I can understand trigger stops not being necessary but paddles should be standard
I actually do really love those trigger stops though, i always use them
Oh same, but for a base controller I dont its necessary like paddles are
Yeah definitely
Back paddles should be standard, theres no reason I should have to stop moving my camera whenever i want to reload or jump
I'm crazy but I press the button with my middle finger while still moving my camera
I dont wanna have to claw grip it 😭
That's how I've adapted to playing any console game
It took a heap of getting used to but now it works like a charm
Before you get arthritis, just get a controller with paddles 🏓
I used to claw grip when trying to play echo in overwatch 1... not good
Yes this lol
Like if i could go back snd make myself stop walking on my tip toes i would, gotta cut off those bad habits while you still can before you inevitably regret it
Merc tbh is one of the funnest characters but he should get some buffs
Merc is perfectly fine
Merc is just not as good on console
Eh fair
I was just playing my first online game and my switch crashed. Does anyone know if this happens often on switch or was it just bad luck?
With the right trinkets its very fun to play him, i stacked up on a bunch of speed and damage ones, it was very entertaining just zooming around slicing things up.
That's a bummer. Still fun to play though
On switch maybe since lower framerate but as long as you have a high sens he is perfectly fine
Yo I know I keep asking this but has anyone figured out how to unlock the demons and the crabs achievement on switch I think you can still do it with drifter or with simulacrum
That's what I been reading on reddit at least for the last 30 minutes
I'm trying this as we speak
Fish
So uh pretty much
It’s bugged again
Unless they do a final patch that fixes the bug, you’re stuck without a 
Legit awful
Yea ik
i think technically you could do it with mods (varies on what you play on) but if you want to get it legit/can't get mods then yeah i got nothing
For Switch?
Why does eclipse feel like it has appropriately working rng, while normal runs seem to be all the same on a given day? I just finished eclipse 2 for arti and will continue tomorrow, no deaths yet
Crazy different item pools whereas normal runs I always get same stages, items, and printers
probably just unlucky, playing on eclipse doesnt change the rng of the game
Does sotv change anything apart from the maps and items?
Is there secrets in these maps
thank
what the fuck is a voidling
Are the dlc's similar to tboi in the way that you have to buy them in a certain order?
Oop thought I was questions chat 😂
Hey can anyone recall if PS4 version on PS5 carries the same run history bricking?
does anyone know if the switch 2 will still get dlc for risk of rain 2?
as far as we know, it will not
there's no switch 2 version, it's just the switch 1 version running on the new console
nah they're separate, it's alr buy whatever you want in whatever order.
Oh no we can’t be linking the fandom
Not confirmed or denied yet. The only way I know to try to let them hear us is this:
Go upvote and hopefully they will see it
Not guaranteed but hey, we are close to 60!
Do you think they'll ever add kbm support for ps5?
doubtful, but it's not impossible
Surely it cant be hard, the ps5 already has support for kbm
it used to support kbm and they removed it. it's not about it being difficult or not, it just doesn't seem like something they want to do.
But why take away a nice QoL feature for seemingly no reason
i dunno, i don't work for em lol
Anyone else have very long times to find games on PS5?
use #lfg-playstation-ror2 instead, finding a random lobby to join is very unlikely to happen
Sorry, I wasn't looking for a group. I was just verifying that others might be having the same issue instead of it just being low player count 🤷
most people find their games through LFG / private matches.
Ror2 is the type of game where you have thousands of people playing but if you open the server browser you find like 4 Chinese servers and that’s about it
Playing with randoms is horrible because they hog all items and you end up underpowered when the difficulty scales up
Mhm. I've found this game to be no different than most team based stuff in this style. I played exactly one game of Halo with a childhood friend of mine. His go to move at the very start of a campaign mission was to hit me in the back of my head and take all my ammo, forcing me to spawn back in with just a plasma pistol. I hated multiplayer games that let you screw over people ever since, lol
Sounds like your friends are the issue. I have played Halo almost since the launch of CE and never had that issue.
I get the sentiment but the issue isn't team damage in the game, its that your friends are willing to screw you over for their gain
Yes, that's what I was getting at. I didn't have a choice on who to hang out with as a child, I just had to deal with him. My friends in my adult life are lovely. Random people are the problem, my level of control over that aspect is just not to play.
Any mention is switch 2 support? Or new dlc?
@patent pelican
Is anyone playing on switch
Not right now but my friend and I did play a few runs earlier
Who Still playing on Switch
I do but dont have switch online
do we know if there's any chance at all gearbox will at least try updating risk of rain 2 specifically for switch 2 for the DLC's? Maybe? Im huffing so much copium it's unreal
because IM TOO POOR FOR A F#&%ING STEAM DECK
gonna kms...In game
I think we'll be getting the switch 1 version but just running at the power of the switch 2. Which is still nice
Or something idk
Im tired okay?
i'm tired too... Tired of everything being so hard...
I recently got the pc version and monsoon is so easy compared to even downpour on switch
Or whatever the medium difficulty is called
Rainstorm? Idk I dont play it
dude full honesty I feel bad for switch players having to wait I'm a PC player but my friend has a switch and I feel bad
I can't take my PC on the go is why im sad
I like playing games on the go and my switch 2 is nice for that and it has smash bros which you can't see anywhere else beyond the other 'smash clone' games but they don't hit the same as Smash Ultimate.
Plus I've dedicated too much time to smash to learn a different game...
buuut I do want a steam deck... But also this economy is so crap you can't even make money working a job unless you work multiple jobs and wear yourself out
i feel the same yeah
if i had a gaming laptop thats be perfect but my time on pc so far reached 10hrs just from yesterday(i cheated all unlocks obviously since on switch i grinded over 100hrs)
I did it all again on pc. I was having fun doing it
i see
i was desparate to try new survivors from sots and ac
and i got a friend to play with me
i play on xbox, have a pc, but dont wanna loose my progress
Thats why we have to upvote stuff like this. Its a slim chance but maybe they will listen if enough people say they want a Switch 2 version
Hi quiplash poop
i am quiplash
fr
I love your discord username
The Switch 2 would be a crazy survivor because we thought he was dead 😳
Unfortunately, still dead
whats the bug
you can’t get artificer?
Which console is this on?
Xbox, theres a frequent bug going around for us console players on PS and Xbox where, you just cant get artificer.
The prompt doesn’t show up, not in multiplayer, not alone, not after deleting and reinstalling the game, not offline, not online.
Having the money isn’t the issue either lol.
I’ve encountered 6+ people and myself. Its actually the only thing denying my 100%
the only working solution is to data delete
Like People can even buy artificer in my games and the animation plays out just fine
I've heard some people on PC were having this problem too
yeahhh but they got unlockers for that
we dont 😭
That is true, but it doesn't help the fact that this bug exists
And you can't purchase her in another person's game?
not in any way shape or form, from any angle
might have been caused by having the first purchase being someone else in MY game. But thats just a theory. Got no clue if thats really why
Damn that sucks, what a weird bug
Is there any multiplayer connection issues for console rn? I’m tryna play w my brother but it keeps saying disconnected every time we try to join each other
I'm getting back into the game after a few years and saw that soon it won't support cross platform play between ps5 and ps4, I'm getting my friend into the game who plays on ps4. If I were to download the ps4 version of the game onto my ps5 would I run into any issues playing cross platform?
Unsure how the ps5 works, but if it lets you keep that outdated version of the game then you should be able to play no problem, however obviously it will be outdated interms of patches and content
Some say they have success but others say at first it will work but just stops at random
Just played a few days ago with my friend on Switch and had no issues
I got sent here by the 2k support does anyone know if I can recover my old cloud data my current data for corrupted and I lost a chunk of my progress I'm on Xbox.
any help is really appreciated to my knowledge my other option is to pretty much just restart from my current point.
Anyone wanna private call and watch my gameplay and give me tips, I’m new, tryna learn, I have 4 hours
Not entirely sure how to force this but when my save states (one on my current Xbox and one on the cloud) didn't match, it would ask me to select which one I wanted to start the game with.
But once you choose the current Xbox, I think that then gets pushed to the cloud.
So if you did that already, your save data from the cloud is probably overwritten
Switch 2 version yet?
I don't think there's going to be one at all
Not a switch 2 exclusive version
After 5 months, I finally made up my mind.
Characters from the base game ranked by how fun I find them.
wtf is up with mul t stocks
Yay!
Wdym?
If you are asking why I enjoy playing with him, I can say that it is part of my extremely specific preference for characters that can transition from a weaponless, quick form to a slow, rapid fire one.
Such as Overwatch's Wrecking Ball, Garden Warfare 2's Citron, Go! Mecha Ball's Rascal...
Dynamic, hit and run characters.
Rascal, btw.
I personally only enjoy Engineer's high damage output once he has items but beginning the game as engie is nothing but PRAYER. My enjoyment of Engie also comes from an enjoyment of 'summoners' in games overall. But my desire for damage and mobility outweigh it, hence Railgunner and Operator.
I mean you kinda answered that question in the question
Celestine Elites will make enemies in their circle invisible until defeated
Ohhhh
Thank you
You’re welcome
Enemy spawns and particularly your build
I find scrapping monster tooth, ghor's tome, and bandolier to be particularly helpful for mitigating lag
As well as deskplant
Considering the switch (particularly og) struggles a good amount more with late loop runs, those items can really fuck with performance
Even some dps items like molt perf or atg can be detrimental if you have insane proc rates for similar reasons
:0 thank you kind sir
Or mam
Pretty much the throughline is try not picking up or just try scrapping items that provide effects that involve physics objects in some way to not lag loop runs as badly
Its still gonna be a minefield of lag and crashes regardless BUT it'll lessen the chances
I see, what about the bands
Safe, a 10 second cooldown ain't gonna get ya
Okay
It's more the physics objects stuff and extreme visual effects stuff lag ya, especially when it's easily spammable
(Deskplant has extreme effects that lag the fuck out of even switch 2 basically the moment you pick it up since you can kill many enemies, thus spawning more)
Fireworks also lags a lot
There is a mod I found that solves my issues with him. It adds a replacement for the primary, which is some sort of spray laser, and adds an alternative for the bubble shield, which is a sprint/jet propulsion that does damage/spreads enemies. The main fire doesn't feel like shit to use and the rush discourages you from staying in one place on the map.
Engi's thing is that you are the maestro for your AI buddies' orchestra.
Something like antlers, squid turret, or plasma shrimp for example may seem similar but they're less egregious to lagging the game since they are either close to insta use or don't have as significant spammability as the laggy items
But unlike other Engineer characters, such as Torbjörn, BFN's Engi and TF2's Engi, he is more hard focused on that idea.
And, I'm sorry, but I like doing things myself when I'm playing a video game.
Most of the time, for me, playing Engi demands too much effort to reach the point in which you can make no efforts.
Bro slow, mainfire feels bad to use, needs to camp... Idk.
"Eh" stands for "Ehngineer".
But yeah, see what items seem to make your game way laggier and judge what you need for your run vs what may crash your run if you play on either switch or general low end systems/looping
But again, the two mod skills I found pump him up at least a tier fun-wise.
My main issue with engi is that you have to charge your primary rather than just shooting
It can still be somewhat underpowered and slow but that whole fact makes him way less fun imo
Exactly
Also, I'm very against the existence of bubble-shield.
They're still somewhat jank and encourage turret use + whole kit usage, but they're an active skill rather than a ball and chain feeling
I also am mixed on spidermines
They kinda wacky.
Though I'm unsure what would work for engi specifically keeping theme
A get off me tool like enforcer's knockback would make sense, but kinda just feels like pasting a random skill that doesn't befitt him
If 2's one done more damage, sure, it would make him potentially more OP, yet, it would feel better to use.
The spray laser tool I mentioned is kinda balanced, since it trades ranges for... a minimum of satisfaction while fighting.
The tool I mentioned is like a charge using his cannon's thrusters.

