ror2-console-discussion

[wispy crypt]

*only exception to that rule is microbots which unlock the moment you start a run as captain

For normal enemies they have a 1% chance to drop their log on death and for bosses its 3%. This is affected by luck so stacking clovers and putting on swarms for doubled enemies and bosses (including unique ones like mithrix) is the best way to hunt them

[fallen tinsel]

Yea, ATM I think the last item I've gotta get is the irradiant pearl

[fallen tinsel]

I see, will double check which I have when able since ircc I have Mithrix, Voidling, Aurelionite and False Son already

[wispy crypt]

Environment logs are either obtained by picking up a logbook thats placed in a specific area on the map (all those physical logbooks except the one in gilded coast vanish after 5 real time minutes of entering the stage so be quick)

Or they are obtained by the radar scanner interactable which has has a rare chance of appearing somewhere on the stage

All stages that progress time (except for the moon) use the radar scanner method and all stages that pause time plus the moon use physical logbooks

[fallen tinsel]

Gotcha

[wispy crypt]

You can increase the odds of radar scanners spawning by turning on command and sacrifice which disable specific other interactables from spawning and taking up loot credits and by playing in multiplayer to increase loot credits overall

Surv logs are just obtained by ending a run with them in any way (this does not work on eclipse)

[fallen tinsel]

Ye, i believe I got 9/17 so far

[hot hill]

Is it just me or does captains shotgun seem tto have a high chances of just pushing smaller enemies through terrain

[wispy crypt]

Yup

[fallen tinsel]

Yea

[wispy crypt]

The high knockback of it pushes enemies fast enough for them to occasionally pass through walls

[hot hill]

"Occasionally" a bit more than Occasionally

[wispy crypt]

It used to be so frequent back in console sotv that I used it as part of my playstyle

[hot hill]

It feels like it's happening more often than it doesn't, at least on ps5

my beloved as captain with diablo strike

[dusky rivet]

I misssed when the larva almost had a 100% of falling through the floor.

[hot hill]

If only I had sotv for

I've only found like 3 drones in this run so far

It's interesting they can deliver a soda machine to the vields but not captains beacon

[wispy crypt]

Eclipse company built diff

[hot hill]

Apparently

But it comes from the safe travels

Why not just slap a tracker onto it and have the beacon follow

[wispy crypt]

Idfk

[hot hill]

I know, I'm being mostly rhetorical

[wispy crypt]

Hopoo just felt silly when making beacons and strikes inaccessible in hidden realms

[hot hill]

Maybe gearbox will "fix" it once they're done with most of the bugs

[wispy crypt]

I doubt it personally

[hot hill]

Or at least give captain an alternate skill to use in hidden realms

One can dream, wertus

[wispy crypt]

I mean

[hot hill]

Even if it doesn't, the shotgun and tazer are still a nasty combo

[wispy crypt]

Gearbox does seem to think its kinda bullshit

Because they made em usable in pm

[hot hill]

And they did blacklist tesla coil

[wispy crypt]

Which thank fucking god

[hot hill]

I think there's a chance we could get some reasonable changes

Lower priority than bugs of course

Mostly because this stuff has become the status quo

[wispy crypt]

Actually now that I think about it the pm ability access may just be to avoid unwanted interactions with fs' ability lock

[hot hill]

Could be

Ooooh, another suggestion is to give the player a way to break a signal through to the safe travels to regain abilities like breaking the geodes does in PM

[wispy crypt]

I always dreaded the idea of orbital access in hidden realms becoming an alt passive because it would technically be a solution for it but would also be the most terrible alternative to getting microbots

[hot hill]

Fair

What about my suggestion of alternate skills when his regular ones are locked out for reasons?

[wispy crypt]

Seems mostly harmless

Though in practice it would create complications with lysate

[hot hill]

Like, it'd even be fine it they weren't really that strong either

Viend handles lysate fine

[wispy crypt]

Ruin on captain specifically doesnt really work with lysate because of its unique way of working with beacons

So I'd imagine the same would happen to a different special if gearbox forgot to fix that lysate oddity

[hot hill]

Yeah, I'd of course still like them to iron out the remaining bugs that are overly annoying

But maybe I'll throw that in the suggestion forum

[wispy crypt]

I kinda like the concept of abilities locking in certain circumstances but beacons and orbitals really wouldnt be that op in hidden realms

If they were something that would make hidden realms free itd make more sense

[fallen tinsel]

Possible ability could be something like Loaders Pylon? It could be a throwable item that uses the effect of one of your beacons, and a alternative for orbital could be something like Commandos Frag

[short iris]

I kinda miss the old way you were forced to get that logbook… made me feel so clever finding out

[wispy crypt]

I didnt really like it because it was pretty intuitive to me the moment I noticed that neither doing nor winning a run as captain unlocked that log

[short iris]

I also thought it was cool for there to be an obscure way to get micro bots to drop and stack

[wispy crypt]

So I just kinda took a vase and stood on top of a high cliff in plains and waited for 10 minutes

[short iris]

Fair

[wispy crypt]

Worst part is I got an umbra to drop em a good bit before but my teammate took them

[short iris]

Ouch

[hot hill]

You can still gamble to get more

It was silly back when they "regenerated" each stage so you could print a red item and get the microbots back next stage

[kindred heron]

Fun fact!! A dev literally said the UES can't afford interdimensional delivery but the Eclipse Company can!

[hot hill]

You know what, fair enough

After having seen the war bonds log, I can firmly believe that

[dusky rivet]

Eclipse cola company:

[noble furnace]

Bison steak.

[kindred heron]

[fallen tinsel]

Way closer to 100% than I though damn. Got 129 hours in atm and I think I'm doing good?

[hot hill]

I'm like 1000 hours in and I don't have 100%

Just have not bothered with the rest of the things, mostly abilities, because I just don't care for them

[wispy crypt]

The only things between me and 100% are the halcyonite log unlock and surv specific unlocks

[hot hill]

At this point, I'm content with the content I have unlocked

[wispy crypt]

I never bothered to get the acrid alts except for blight

[hot hill]

I still need to reunlock rexs alt utility on ps but it's such a hassle

Gotta get lucky and get dunestriders

[wispy crypt]

I just did dunked while in the process of getting directive harvest

[fallen tinsel]

I'm still working on most survivor unlocks, but only gotta get 4 more moster logs done

[hot hill]

I'm only missing one survivor log. Heretics, because I beat the game by obliterating as her instead of fighting mithrix

[fallen tinsel]

Big oofs

[wispy crypt]

Im missing mul-t acrid and chef

[hot hill]

Oh right, chef too. Forgot about him. I played him for one stage. Not bothering again until they rework him

I know it's not the worst but this is definitely one of the dumber tp spawns

[wispy crypt]

I always check behind there for chests

But yeah its kinda goofy that the tp can spawn there

[fallen tinsel]

Atm missing Arti, Merc, Rex, Acrid, Railgunner and chef

[hot hill]

I think Heretics is my favorite survivor logbook

[dusky rivet]

I remember resseting my save data when i had 100% the game because i felt bored, I deeply regret that. In term of playtime i remember having 500+ lunar coin so like 200+ hour.

[hot hill]

I mean, I didn't reset, just playing on ps5 since it got next gen. Handles better than my pc, too

I have yet to notice lag even when I had like 4 clovers

[vivid sky]

FR

I got that one once

[rigid prawn]

Environment logs you don't need for profile to reach 100%, and you can miss one monster log

[meager niche]

POV: number 1 death is to lemurian

[rigid prawn]

Also Mercs Slicing Winds for some reason aren't required

As for unlocking Diablo Strike just stack alot of speed denial and some AP rounds

Tentababule is also preferred

[rose river]

< join xbox lfg that doesnt mention artifacts

They are in a run with cheese combo
This bandit. With command

Choose 3 crit. Planula. Razorwire.

I am. Fucking sobbing😭

[flat merlin]

I hate Xbox LFGs I stg someone joins my post then leaves immediately

[wispy crypt]

Yeah I also die inside whenever someone that uses the cheese combo just... doesnt understand the concept of synergy

And item value

[rose river]

At the very least theyre chill with doing a nornal run

Theyre playing railgunner and false son but thats fine

[wispy crypt]

And for some reason 90% of them love leeching seed

[rose river]

Tbf its like

Alr if stacked. I still fuckin hate it

[wispy crypt]

Horrid

Like every one of them will go into full crit because why wouldnt you

And then still take seed over scythe

[rose river]

Because people undervalue scythe lol

[wispy crypt]

Like why settle for 10 times less

[rose river]

Because leeching op

[wispy crypt]

Its so painful to hear someone spout complete nonsense about something and having to correct them

To be ignored most of the time because nobody looks in the vc text channels

[rose river]

THE RAILGUNNER

WITH THE SLOWING FIELD GOT ME KILLED (SHOT A WANDERING VAGRANT I WAS TRYING TO BACK AWAY FROM BECAUSE IT WAS ALMOST LOW ENONGH TO DO ITS FUNNY BOMB ATTACK

[flat merlin]

Ain’t no party like a railgunner party

[wispy crypt]

In those cases you just gotta improvise and think fast

Usually you can use the tp fangs as cover

[rose river]

It was unfortunate

A big ass open field

They been fighting tp as railgunner and false son for a dolid 4 mins

The boss bar is still at half.

[wispy crypt]

That run is so joever

[rose river]

THE FLASE SON ISNT USING HIS L2

HES JUST ONE TRICKIJG THE LAZERRRR

Oh my fod theyre ignoring all the flying enemys and just looking at the boss.

[wispy crypt]

I once was in a mp run and this commando really wanted to go all into a bleed build

[rose river]

Censored named because duh.
Masteful gambit. (Took place before what i just said happennd. First time ive left mid run god that suckedddd)

[wispy crypt]

And he was able to get a good amount of tri tips and a sawmerang

[rose river]

Sees probably the most teletraped attack in the game
Fucking teleports into it.

[noble furnace]

Me the other day opening a legendary chest with 3 sale stars and getting clover, whispers, meteor and electric boomerang
https://youtube.com/shorts/DArS6O0S0LQ?si=Zrof87_o4QGl1M5A

[wispy crypt]

Now the legendary chest spat out boomerang

He didnt want it

[rose river]

Did he conplain

Yep.
Tbf niche bug that most people i played wirh didnt know till i told em

[wispy crypt]

So then I explained that with sawmerang, boomerang also procs bleed

HE STILL DIDNT WANT IT

[rose river]

Yeah.

Command its and effects

"If a item doesnt carry a run its dogshit "

Boomerang my beloved
Even without funny bleed tech its just a fun item

[wispy crypt]

I still do not understand how you can both beg to go into all the bleed and then refuse to take an item that helps substantially with stacking bleed

[noble furnace]

Yep

[wispy crypt]

Like even just normally boomerang is such a good item on mando

There was 0 reason for that guy to not take it

[noble furnace]

Yeah but hey, the brainrot of everything from the SotS DLC is bad.

[rose river]

Doesn't have bleed in the description so the average mando player cant comprehend it

[wispy crypt]

And im just crying mentally because he threw away the opportunity to get a near perfect bleed build without command

[flat merlin]

I played with artifacts and the person I played with took my red item from THE ENEMY I KILLED ( btw he had 15+ items compared to everyone else and already had a red)

I was going to give the red to a under leveled teammate

[rose river]

Did he alteast pick a good item

[wispy crypt]

Yeah you just cant avoid red hunters

[frail merlin]

True merc player would have used false son small iframe dash to block the explosion

[flat merlin]

Laser scope on artificer (no crit)

[rose river]

The fact when i was playing with one dude and i had more items i used most of my whispers procs to help him get back going he was surprised. This fucking community

[rose river]

Had the exact same happen to me in a non command run week 1 on dlc

[wispy crypt]

Like I once played as captain with a loader and that loader sprinted towards the red that came out of the chest and TOOK A FUCKING SHUSTICE THAT THEY NEVER PROCCED

[rose river]

The voidfiend incident ive ranted avout here before

[rose river]

BUT BUT! RED RED GOOD!!!

[flat merlin]

I lowkey want to post his Xbox profile but it feels wrong

[rose river]

literally one of captains best reds

[rose river]

Yeah uh don't

[wispy crypt]

Literally only takes one shot to proc

[rose river]

Im not a huge fan of these kinda players either but putting them on blast in a public server is so much worse

[frail merlin]

I feel like half of the ror2 player do not even reach basic intelligence😭

[flat merlin]

The dude had 45+ items I had 30+ and the under leveled dude had 25~ items

[rose river]

Istg

Miss when i was also like them
So i didnt have to gamble on whether i had fun in a run or not

[wispy crypt]

I once also played with some people

Both me and the host got a shipping request stage 1

[rose river]

Anyway im annoyed so time for me 2 play returns

[wispy crypt]

So I took an item from one of them and the host proceeds to ragequit because he "called dibs on it"

[frail merlin]

I love debating wether ignition tank will lag the game or how stacking shipping request on a single player is bad

[rose river]

It

[wispy crypt]

So yeah I never played with that guy again and dont intend on doing it in the future either

[rose river]

You quite literally cannot

Call dibs.

On shipping if more then one person has it

Due to it having no way to confirm who spawned which

[frail merlin]

I hate the people who call dibs on all future reds and yellow

[rose river]

Call dibs on this diablo im about to slap you with istg

Ive killed atleast two annoying people with the invis diablo bug and i will do it again

[wispy crypt]

The only things I ask of being able to take are fuel cell and egg because dammit do I want to exploit the out of bounds bug I discovered for as long as its not patched

Its too fun

[rose river]

Only item i ever call dibs on

Is like.

Sometimes the first bleed on captain when playing with people i know

And thats it.

[frail merlin]

Calling dibs overall is just annoying because that mean your teammates are not competent enough to share the needed item for each survivor

[rose river]

Yeah

[hot hill]

The only times I want dibs on something is crit as flurry huntress, at the first couple, and bungus on engi

[rose river]

How about instead of hogging the item

[wispy crypt]

Or you just not caring about whats ideal on who and wanting to get op even if it means everyone else is just falling behind

[rose river]

You share it
You being op while everyone else doeant matter if you die because you suck ass at the game and need swarms and command

Right 7h

What unlock should i get next in rorr

[wispy crypt]

Robomando

[rose river]

True

[frail merlin]

When you try to share some item with the underleved player but the item hogger takes all the item instead.

[rose river]

Suppose ill do that and the level 20 and gold bomb thing

[hot hill]

Does swarms also prevent cloaked chests?

[noble furnace]

Yes

[rose river]

First step is just
Do a drizzle run n get to stage 5 n look for a pot yeah?

[hot hill]

Er, sacrifice

But thank you

[wispy crypt]

Sometimes I just wanna grab items and throw them onto the players that dont know they need em

[noble furnace]

Oh, I didn't notice that you wrote swarm, I am so used to connect swarm and sacrifice together.

[hot hill]

I actually am running sac without swarm. I got sick of no drones spawning when I'm playing captain

And they still didn't freaking spawn on the first two stages

[noble furnace]

Director doing some trolling.

[hot hill]

I got one healing and one gunner on stage 1, nothing on two.
But I sure did get like 4 printers and 4 scrappers

[frail merlin]

I really can’t stand playing with inexperience/newbie but somehow I can never stop encountering them

[hot hill]

Everyone is new at some point

[wispy crypt]

New players I dont really have an issue with

Like they cant know any better

[frail merlin]

Yeah but somehow I always seems to find more new player than veteran in the lfg

[wispy crypt]

But some of these people that do these actually just brainless things have so many hours

Some probably even more than me

[frail merlin]

How did even someone with like 500+ hour exclusive play on command

[hot hill]

I got a little exhausted with people that just could not stop talking for a second so I'm just fine going back to solo

[hot hill]

Honestly, that was me for a bit

[noble furnace]

I believe the problem is, because they are new they don't know how the game works and someone experienced like us try to give tips but they deny the help.
It has happened to me multiple times here and on multiplayer matches.

[hot hill]

I've since moved on from that and realized that commandless is more fun because of the random

[noble furnace]

True this man

[frail merlin]

When the roguelike becomes a roguelike

[hot hill]

Like, sometimes it's fun to see just see how stupid you can build in command but those runs are few and far between

[wispy crypt]

For a while I mainly used command to get a feel for how items, enemies, the survs and overall game mechanics work

[frail merlin]

Having a stupid build happen randomly feels much more satisfying tho.

[hot hill]

True

[wispy crypt]

Honestly people over exaggerate the skill gap between drizzle command and regular monsoon

Took me not much time to get used to the new feel

[hot hill]

Same, actually

[wispy crypt]

The enemies still did the exact same attacks I was now familiar with

[frail merlin]

Monsoon and drizzle with command on is basically the same anyways

[noble furnace]

And that is okay but use it to play like it is normal to use and think that those runs are "fun" that is the problem IMO.

[hot hill]

Commandless also has the benefit of not having to enter a menu everytime you get an item

[wispy crypt]

Eh to each their own imo

[frail merlin]

Command is meant to have fun but can’t expect everyone to have fun on command

[wispy crypt]

But I do despise when people think they're skilled at the game or some item is op/useless based purely on their command viewpoint

[hot hill]

In the end, if you're having fun with the game, it doesn't matter how you're playing

[frail merlin]

In conclusion I am bias and will continue to be

[hot hill]

Who isn't

[frail merlin]

It’s time for more people to realize how bias they actually are

[delicate cave]

Most of the people that are insanely bias won't realize because of it though

[noble furnace]

Understandable, but let's be honest, it's not the same feeling of hype when you see a printer of a good item on a normal run without command in comparison when having command because each printer is whatever you want and it doesn't feel as hype.

[delicate cave]

Printers don't spawn in command do they

[frail merlin]

Yeah

[noble furnace]

They do

[delicate cave]

Might be thinking of sacrifice then

[noble furnace]

They also spawn on sacrifice

[wispy crypt]

Not command though

Neither scrappers nor printers do because there is no point

[delicate cave]

Yeah that's what I thought

[hot hill]

Printers don't spawn in command, ye

[noble furnace]

Oh.... I am so dumb...

[wispy crypt]

The only exception is the pre spawned one on verdant

[delicate cave]

The only ones you ever get are guaranteed like the glitched stage 1 and cauldrons

[wispy crypt]

Its not glitched though

The printer and big chest spot there is completely intended

[frail merlin]

Who knows what bugged or not when dealing with gearbox

[hot hill]

And always a $50 cost even on loop?

Sounds bugged in some fashion

[delicate cave]

Yeah no way that's intended lol

[wispy crypt]

It just feels weird because the only other thing like those we have are the legendary chests

[delicate cave]

No scaling or anything in multiplayer or by timer

[wispy crypt]

Not anymore though right?

[hot hill]

Nope, still is

[wispy crypt]

Oh bruh lmao

[delicate cave]

Silly console players thinking their bugs got fixed

You still haven't learned from the last 3 years

[frail merlin]

We would be slightly less delusional and crazy if gearbox just had patch note for the bug fixes

[delicate cave]

Honestly I do hope they succeed in merging the 2 eventually

[noble furnace]

If I remember correctly that was fixed, I may be wrong but I remember someone saying that it was fixed and the large chest scales with time now.

[wispy crypt]

Theyre not all that far tbh

[delicate cave]

They went the wrong way

[wispy crypt]

No

[delicate cave]

I need console and PC to be back up to their old PC state

Maybe cross platform one day 🙏

[frail merlin]

The pc perspective and console one is something

[hot hill]

I mean, they're closer to cross-platform than they were before the codebase unification

[wispy crypt]

Its easier and more efficient to take the better version down and then build that now one singular version up instead of slowly raising the worse version to eventually reach the better one

[frail merlin]

Thought having console bugs and physics when I bought a pc to avoid them sure wasn’t what I expected. I rather much have the reverse.

[delicate cave]

I like the buggy physics though

Removing merc slams and messing up trimping just made the game less fun

It wasn't harmful

[wispy crypt]

I mean

I dont really like this argument because you never know what other physics shenanigans console physics have

[frail merlin]

Enemies falling through the floor, nerfed headstomper wax quall jump, merc taking fall damage on slopes and more?

[delicate cave]

Maybe not that stuff but I liked bumping and trimping

[wispy crypt]

There are just not nearly as many and as dedicated people that had those physics

[woven pelican]

Yooooooo

Acrid just straight up sucks now?

[delicate cave]

I have seen a lot of... interesting console bug clips with physics

[frail merlin]

Yeah bumping and trimping is worsened on console and now on pc. Merc literally takes fall damage when he trimp with his secondary

[delicate cave]

I hope you didn't like leap

Also fire cancels other DoTs like poison and bleed

[woven pelican]

Died on stage 1 lul

[delicate cave]

And needletick

Acrid got hit with a lot of indirect nerfs via bugs

Chef and arti too since fire

[wispy crypt]

Ehh arti I would disagree with

[delicate cave]

It doesn't affect arti too much but still a nerf for DoT

The attack speed change is great though

[frail merlin]

Chef proc is pretty bad so that wouldn’t matter

[wispy crypt]

The fire thing nerfs her yes but the update brought... compensation

[frail merlin]

It’s not a arti bug😭

[delicate cave]

I feel removing the min cooldown on primary is a bigger buff than that glitch

[wispy crypt]

But arti is the only one thats able to consistently make use of it

[frail merlin]

Gearbox adds a way to make arti apply bleed but also a bug that ruins it.

[delicate cave]

It makes arti with tonic viable at least

Purity meta is back ig too so the lunar people are eating good

[frail merlin]

Tonic with arti was always reliable because tonic give a huge damage boost

[delicate cave]

Yeah but the cooldown always limited it decently

[frail merlin]

How the hell does a cooldown limit a straight up damage boost, arti damage wasn’t always it primary

[delicate cave]

It was never bad but it was never as good as others

Yeah but now fire go brr

It's like I have flamethrower and ion surge at the same time

But without the range limit of flamethrower

Which tonic helps enable because of attack speed

[wispy crypt]

Howard

Do you play multiplayer?

[delicate cave]

I don't play this game

[wispy crypt]

[delicate cave]

I just know a lot of things and stuff

Less about sots though

All the things about sots I've heard from other people

[frail merlin]

Experience>knowledge

[wispy crypt]

How long do I still have to search for a pc player that can test if the out of bounds bug works on pc

Ive asked at least 10 times now for sure

[delicate cave]

I have this game 100% I just stopped playing before sots dropped

After devotion

[wispy crypt]

Like it would be so much easier to get someone to test it if it didnt depend on non host multiplayer

At some point Ill just buy a pc and ror2 for it to go test it with ronny there too

[frail merlin]

If only buying a pc was that simple

[wispy crypt]

Yeah Im fucking poor

[frail merlin]

Me and my 2 brother had to give up all desire to get one pc for Christmas after a couple of years of begging..

[rose river]

If it helps i get a pc in like

20 days. I can 100% help when i get risk

[short iris]

That gives you the entry lol you probably did it when console had a glitch that made everyone unable to obtain her log

[short iris]

They forgot to account for certain sots and devotion unlocks interms of the “logboonks out of x” so they’ll add to the % completed but itll happen prematurely

[short iris]

Everyone always forgets poor multi shops…

[hot hill]

Like, a couple weeks after sots?

[rigid prawn]

Wish they did... Regen scrap would be more useful

[hot hill]

It is if you go to the bazaar. Free red per 5 scrap

[rigid prawn]

I didn't say it's useless, I said it would be more useful

[hot hill]

Fair

lol, the one trophy I'm now missing from base game ror2 on ps5 is the one

Just not bothering

[main sonnet]

Just use seed barrage Rex

[hot hill]

Lazy

[main sonnet]

Not lazy enough to get everything else that’s considerably harder

[hot hill]

[dusty plank]

No but one of rex's achievements is to to the teleporter under 50% health so just do both of them

[whole berry]

Isn't this supposed to be 4%?

Or is the in-game number wrong but the actual number correct?

[hot hill]

It is 4%. They changed the value but did not get a chance to update the logbook at the time

[tepid gull]

how does eclipse matchmaking work

[short iris]

It's 3% (the path notes also got it wrong)

[frail merlin]

It’s a bit weird but the player gotta be on the same level. For example if you are on e8 and one is on e2, you will get forced to play on e2.

[stone halo]

Are they genuinely illiterate

[short iris]

Maybe

[junior perch]

I'd like to know why even though Chef is considered to be the worst survivor in the game rn, he feels like one of the strongest ones. At least to me, he feels better than half the current survivors rn, especially Captain.

Idk, maybe it's just my playstyle that likes him more, but I thought I'd just say it anyway

[noble furnace]

Okay, he feels really strong on stage 1 and 2 where items don't matter but once you start on stage 3 where you start to need items to fight and the double elites spawn that is where chef falls really hard in comparison to all the other survivors, his cleaver is 0.5 proc coefficient, his Sear, the flamethrower, has Short range and it aims where chef body is aiming not where you are aiming with 0.6 proc coefficient, his roll you no longer use it for damage because you get into melee range and enemies on stage 3 and above and really strong if you approach them on melee range, Glaze is decent but weird to aim with a 1.0 proc coefficient and yes chef you can only use it for the boosted cleaver which you have to use it on melee range.
This applies as Long that you don't play with command artifact, which if you do play with it everything that I wrote gets thrown out of the window.

What I am trying to say is, each survivor has different carry potential with their abilities if you don't get items that can scale your damage, some survivors can play without damaging items and go through stages but chef is on the at the bottom of how much his abilities can carry through stages.

[frail merlin]

Ngl even if you manage to get chef in melee range the damage isn’t that impressive especially considering it’s basically a burst of damage instead of continuous damage.

But thank god I have played melee merc for so long because I never expected my experience to come in use for chef rather than false son

[whole berry]

Yeesh even worse sad to see it get nuked 🥲

But i guess with items with sale star and that getting items can be a little too easy

[kindred heron]

Its still really powerful though

Like yeah 3%

[whole berry]

Yeah no doubt but idk if running the all elite modifier is worth it.

[kindred heron]

Fair

But even in a regular run it drops a decent amount of items excluding the boss drops

[whole berry]

I mean I'm happy they kept the 100% on boss kill

[noble furnace]

It's still really good even after the Nerf

[whole berry]

Yeah i wasnt saying it was bad far from it i would say its one of the top 3 reds

[hot hill]

The magic conch also works with

[whole berry]

But i was just saying sad to see it get gutted

[whole berry]

Yeah i remember reading that so that put a smile on my face

[noble furnace]

Yeah but man, it was a really heavy stress test for the game when it was the 15%.

[whole berry]

I see thats fair maybe i'm too greedy

[noble furnace]

Maybe

[hot hill]

Yeah, even the clover from rorr is only 5% from elites

[mighty citrus]

Wonder when the next update will be

[frail merlin]

When is rain coming to ror2 is the real question

[wispy crypt]

Commencement and sirens call crying rn

And roost n grove

And I think wetland maybe

[hot hill]

Ronny, I'm sorry to tell you but you've had alzheimers for 50 years

There's always been rain

[frail merlin]

The game is named risk of rain but I haven’t seen any rain at all since playing

[hot hill]

I don't remember noticing rain on roost

But I am notoriously unobservant

[short iris]

Yeah I think the roost one is also wrong but I can't be bothered to react to a message more then once

[kindred heron]

Its called RISK of Rain for a reason

[hot hill]

I'm glad they brought the artificers hover toggle on the switch to the rest of the platforms

[frail merlin]

I thought it was always there

[hot hill]

Nope, only on switch until sots

I had tried making a sort of macro with steams controller function but it just wasn't the same

[wispy crypt]

The schizophrenia artifact is real

Not once but TWICE did an enemy just fucking vanish into absolutely nothijg

Like with the beetle I just shrugged it off as it clipping through the ground somehow

But now that it also happened with a soul wisp

I cant even.... remotely understand what is going on

[noble furnace]

Lol, the first one I believe the wisp from soul artifact they have a life timer.

[wispy crypt]

Istg if its life timer ran out in the literal second it was offscreen

[noble furnace]

Probably

But man it was fun to watch

[wispy crypt]

This game is toying so much with me

All these bugs and random occurrences

[noble furnace]

If that happens to me I just laugh and continue.

Like, I don't mind those bugs because they can be funny and harmless.

[wispy crypt]

At some point it gets ridiculous though

Like I have had one too many perfectly convenient scenarios

[noble furnace]

The enemies don't want to fight you, you are too powerful.

[wispy crypt]

The game itself wants to though

[short iris]

It was on all platforms except pc

[wispy crypt]

Like I have seen enough crazy shit from this game

I have seen things you wouldn't believe
I have lost things you will never understand

[short iris]

I don't wanna know what would happen if you played Isaac or spelunky with the same luck you have in ror

[wispy crypt]

And I know things, secrets that must never be told

And the rest bla bla I dont wanna spam the channel

[noble furnace]

Meanwhile I am just having fun and not bothering that much about finding bugs and crazy things.

[hot hill]

I don't remember it on ps4 but I don't remember if I unlocked arti before my ps5 reformated

[wispy crypt]

Im having the time of my life finding this shit

[noble furnace]

It was always on console but not on PC until the SotS update.

[wispy crypt]

Its just getting kinda scary just HOW much I find

[short iris]

I vividly remember the button being there when the game launched on consoles because settings Is the first thing I ever check and there was one saying it's locked until blah blah blah whatever and i was like damn

[hot hill]

Dang, am I sure that it's not Ronny with alzheimers but me?

[short iris]

Everyone here

[hot hill]

That's the thing, I do the same thing

Don't know how I missed it

[noble furnace]

It can happen, don't worry.

[hot hill]

👵

[frail merlin]

Side effect of playing on this cursed ror2 version for so long

[meager niche]

MulT’s the best

[ebon lynx]

hey guys, few questions about the ps5 version of ror2. Firstly, does it support local splitscreen multiplayer? Hard to find a definitive answer online. Secondly, I need Ps plus to play it online. DO you think that the experience will still be fun If i were to play sigle player, or would you reccommend getting PS PLus to play online?

also, is it crossplay between other platforms such as switch and pc?

All answers are appreciated, thanks

[short iris]

Yes PS5 version has split screen. Id say the game is still amazing single player and how you should start learning but that's my opinion. No sadly there's no crossplay but ps4 can play with ps5

[ebon lynx]

Awesome, thank you sooo much

Is the splitscreen experience any good?

[short iris]

No idea I'm on ps4, but I heard from Calvin it's fine/good

[ebon lynx]

Awesome, thanks

[noble furnace]

It's playable, there are some issues like elites don't spawn with the skin of their elites and they look like a normal enemy and the health bar of the enemies sometimes they get wack and go all over the screen but those are the only 2 issues I have found on Split screen.

[ebon lynx]

Appreciate it!

[noble furnace]

Np

[ebon lynx]

Looks like I'm getting myself a copy now 🙂

[noble furnace]

[upbeat star]

NOOOOOOOO

[short iris]

What the hell two iradiant pearls

[upbeat star]

Yeah

[supple pasture]

Шукаю людей для гри в ріску(бажано Україномовні російомовні)

[meager niche]

Wtf two iradiant pearls

[upbeat star]

It's honestly quite shrimple

I've had i think 42 before

[meager niche]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-cheated-busted-gif-13741652

[upbeat star]

[meager niche]

Inform me what is that

I don’t see a single one of those. In ur inventory

[upbeat star]

Egocentrism, a lunar that turns an item into a copy of itself every minute

I didn't use one this time

But I did for 42

[meager niche]

How’d you even get 1 though

Without ego

[upbeat star]

Other lunar items

[meager niche]

You got TWO raw that’s crazy

“How lucky us too lucky”

Look I’ve played this game a while, unless there’s an exploit or sm I’m calling you out soo hard

[upbeat star]

They're like a 1 in 5 it's not that crazy

Thus a 1 in 40 to get 2 in a row

Mb

Wrong maths

[meager niche]

Bruh

[upbeat star]

1 in 25

Even more common

A 4% chance

[meager niche]

ok I see what you mean by 1/5

I don’t think I’ve ever gotten one

[upbeat star]

They used to be a 4% chance but always dropped if you hit that initial 4%

That was before survivors of the void

[meager niche]

Oh okay I heard about that. I usually play command so I don’t pay attention too much to details

I like playing purity builds

[hot hill]

Purity is niche but fun

[junior perch]

I like the Murial Rachis & the Effigy Of Grief

[frail merlin]

I have found out that any item that buff you does not work after hitting a shrine of order.

[hot hill]

Not even after stage change?

I used the shrine of order once or twice when it got added to the game and never since so my memory is a little fuzzy

[frail merlin]

It was on the moon, so I don’t know.

[delicate cave]

Oh, like if it gives you a buff item you won't get the buff?

What items would that even be?

[frail merlin]

Wungus and bands is all the item I have noticed

[delicate cave]

interesting

after you proc bands will the next one work though?

[frail merlin]

Bands wouldn’t work at all. I haven’t downloaded the clip yet but here’s the wungus one I found long ago https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1265009821325987901

[delicate cave]

strange

[main sonnet]

It may have something to do with all items that apply buffs.

That’s the only similarity I can think of between wungus and bands

[hot hill]

Wait, shrines of order show up on the moon???

[short iris]

Guaranteed location on the floating rocks behind mass pillars

[hot hill]

I didn't even know there were rocks back there

[main sonnet]

Yea, you can’t see them behind the big cave-like section very well

[hot hill]

This changes things

[junior perch]

Luckily i don't even use those 99% of the time so

[vivid python]

i have no relation towards this individual

[delicate cave]

here before sai gets here

[vivid python]

bro please

[delicate cave]

joe mungus isn't even the first @ for joe in this server
why did you pick this man

[subtle ledge]

yo

😭

[noble furnace]

I just saw a scavenger obliterating a Void devastator with a tri-horn.
That is the first time I see that interaction and for a moment I thought that the Void devastator has a chance to drop his Void yellow item if you have sacrifice on.

[clear pike]

anyone know what caused this? was it Zoea?

[noble furnace]

The void touched blind pest killed you, you didn't have OSP active.

[delicate cave]

yeah it doesnt look like it hit you, so i'd guess loader was the host.

just desync when the spit hit you

You can tell because it gives you collapse

[clear pike]

a blind pest doesnt deal that much damage that early?

[hot hill]

They absolutely do

[clear pike]

Yeah im loader buddies clip, desync was my guess

[hot hill]

They have high base damage and each stack of collapse is 400% base

[clear pike]

ah fair just no collapse happening on screen was the reason i didnt think that

[noble furnace]

That is not early, enemies are level 86 and you are level 26 so obviously enemies are really over level you and blind pests attacks have a high damage attack and + him being void touched they get a stat boost.

[noble furnace]

You can see the collapse stack after you die.

[woven pelican]

Bruh.

We’ve seen it all now.

[rocky drift]

Can i play splitscreen safely gang?

[hot hill]

Yes

[stoic dragon]

Wanted to ask, does anyone know what killed me?

[short iris]

Bison headbutted you surprisingly high because you were close to It and really epic awesome item unstable transmitter teleported you before the hp was even taken

Btw you should use headstompers more they're really good

[stoic dragon]

Damn that’s annoying, thanks for the help though 🫡

[short iris]

Np, gl on your runs

[stoic dragon]

I was trying to use them more that run, I just forget that their cooldown has run out so I end up forgetting their ready

[short iris]

Ahh fair

Doesn't really apply to the situation but their cooldown is fhe same as bands which gives a good visual indicator

[stoic dragon]

That’s a good tip, I’ll be sure to keep that in mind for next time, thanks

[fallen tinsel]

Cheesed false sons third phase with , honestly though I was cooked cuz I'm terrible at fighting him

[runic cedar]

Balance changes when?

[main sonnet]

Unknown.

[hot hill]

Soon™️

[dusky rivet]

Around the time silksong release

[short iris]

Crazy that even now that silk song released people still use that joke

[fresh ferry]

He’s pretty rough as is, so don’t worry lol, but nice.
I actually don’t even know how you’re supposed to get your abilities back lol. I’m assuming it’s a geode thing

[wispy crypt]

Yes

The geodes cleanse debuffs and the ability lock is a debuff

Alternatively you can try to stall him for 7 minutes as that is how long the debuff naturally lasts

The same applies to the lunar ruin debuff of all of prime meridian
They just set the duration to 420 seconds for some reason

[short iris]

I wanna belive that but I swear one time I spend more then that and lunar ruin didn't disappesr

Probably just bias of false rememberence though

[fallen tinsel]

Yea, I end up fumbling the timing for triggering the geode since I pop it to early when playing

[hot hill]

If it's a debuff, just use

[hot hill]

Haha weed number

[fallen tinsel]

Can't, false son also locks equipment use

[wispy crypt]

Yes blast shower is the key to open to chest he stores your abilities in
Except he also threw the key in there

[hot hill]

That's the joke, not that it was a good one

Wait, if it's a debuff, does prevent it?

[wispy crypt]

I have no idea

[fallen tinsel]

Maybe, I'll have to see later

[wispy crypt]

Ive heard people say it does and also people say it doesnt

[fallen tinsel]

Cuz ik item effect can still work

[wispy crypt]

And Ive also heard people say it works if it prevents the debuff but doesnt work if the debuff is already on you

[hot hill]

I feel like testing it but I kind of dislike playing on command to guarantee it for the amount of time it would take to get to him

[fallen tinsel]

I'll do a test when I'm done w/ school

[fallen tinsel]

Thinking if I go to get the Bandit or Arti skins later cuz idk who to play first

[raw wing]

raincoat blocks yea just dont waste it on a meteor right before the lockout

[wispy crypt]

When Im an old grandpa Ill show my grandchildren these clips and just gaslight them into thinking my risk of rain 2 was haunted

Where tf did that geep even come from anyways

[hot hill]

Excuse me for my skill issue. I spawned onto a stage and used flamethrower on an enemy of top of me. Unfortunately, they clipped into a twisted field and since I had like 5 polylute, I simply disappeared

Also had clover so it happened even faster because those lutes went off sooner

Onto another run

[wispy crypt]

Thats even worse

[kindred heron]

You are NOT allowed to have that Geep

[kindred heron]

Gup jumpscare

[noble furnace]

I just discovered that chronic expansion stacks only stay active if you only kill enemies, not by you dealing damage or taking damage and killing enemies.

[delicate cave]

5 second timer reset every kill iirc

easily obtainable with

[random saddle]

right, add to that and

peak gameplay

[noble furnace]

Yeah, but I thought that you could keep the stacks by just damaging enemies or taking damage on top of raising it and keeping the stacks with kills.
Maybe YouTubers misinformation got me.

[junior perch]

Y'know what? Screw u

your Blazing elder lemurian

[random saddle]

blazing elder lemurian this, blazing elder lemurian that
what about blazing player

[junior perch]

[random saddle]

yes please

the best build in the whole game

[main sonnet]

Drinking the tincture knowing damn well I’m gonna die

[random saddle]

literally me fr fr

[low cargo]

how much antler shield does one need to ohko everything in the game

[pearl kite]

More than the integer limit probably

[delicate cave]

idk about that, but definetely a LOT

most enemies scale health more than damage since your health is way lower than the average enemy in terms of stats

actually, integet limit + for special scaling

but for lvl 99 celestial scavs there's probably a number

AwU and such health goes way too high. Billions, trillions, whatever

depends on how long you play

general consensus is uh you would probably die before they do

unless you have 10 quadrillion HP

[vocal isle]

I have never picked up a and I've 100% the game, did I do somthing the 'wrong' way?

(100% according to trophys)

[random saddle]

game rounds up percentage I think so you don't need to really get everything to get 100%

[vocal isle]

Okay. All I'm missing is a couple logs and item entry's anyways

(They should totally add modding for consol because that would be fire. (I am willing to wait however long it takes))

[meager niche]

I got the gum trinket from the toolbox but I’m having trouble with getting the goo trinket. It takes like 3 days for the fireflies to respawn which feels like an hour in real life

[short iris]

It stays active if you damage enemies just not if you get hit

[dusky rivet]

Sawmerang and knockback fin gotta have the worst synergy ive seen. It knock the enemy up in the air and the returning saw will just miss.

[short iris]

Same for runic Lens

watching star storm 2 gameplay rn and hooollyy some of these items are so cool and useful and does it make me unbelievably jealous

Greater warbanner seems so fun, it solevs every single issue I have with warbanner would be an equipment I could see myself using a lot

So many well designed items.... Saddening....

Field accelerator would unironically probably be my favorite item in the game I am not joking

[dusky rivet]

I used to dislike starstorm 2 until sots dropped, feel like i actually got to appreciate it and had some great fun.

[junior perch]

I'm throwing this game I'm in for some reason

Why did I pick a Voidsent Flame over a Polylute from my void key?

[pale mountain]

Good question

[hot hill]

It's ok, we all make mistakes

I don't think I ever pick up voidsent anyway unless its a void chest on the moon

[noble furnace]

I can't get the clip I took but I was hitting enemies and the buff didn't stay active by hitting enemies.

[short iris]

Extremely bizarre, were you in multiplayer?

[noble furnace]

No, solo, test it if you don't believe me.

[short iris]

I mean I did, and so did other people, and both wikis say this

I can go on the game later ig

[noble furnace]

Like I wrote, I took a clip but the Xbox cloud is not working right now and I can't download the clip but I was hitting enemies on the clip and the buff didn't stay active.

[dusky rivet]

Is the buff supposed go away after you get hit?

[wispy crypt]

Its worded incorrect

[short iris]

No it just doesn't increase the duration

[wispy crypt]

You have to kill an enemy to reset the duration

[short iris]

I'll get a clip of it being up kept by dealing damage in a bit

[noble furnace]

Yeah, you have to kill enemies to keep the duration but like I wrote, maybe the YouTubers made me think that it was by hitting enemies and/or getting hit and killing.

[noble furnace]

You only keep the buff alive if you kill, if you get hit or damage enemies that don't keep the buff active.

[frail merlin]

All I needed was a yes or no

But I assume the buff won’t go away when hit but will also not reset the duration.

[wispy crypt]

Ye

[noble furnace]

No

[frail merlin]

That’s strange because i clearly remember multiple times getting hit on purpose to test that and the buff didn’t disappear.

[noble furnace]

Yesterday I got hit and hit enemies and I didn't keep the buff.

[frail merlin]

Possibly a switch bug

[noble furnace]

Okay, here is the clip I took, here I noticed that I didn't keep the buff by hitting the halcyonite and later I tested by getting hit with some golems and I also didn't keep the buff active, the golem part I didn't took the clip but it's up to you if you want to believe me.

[frail merlin]

Let’s ignore the fact you got hit and kept the buff

[noble furnace]

At the middle of the clip I stop getting hit and I kept hitting the halcyonite and I didn't keep the buff and later like I wrote I tested with some golems by getting hit by them and I also didn't keep the buff and like I wrote, I thought that you could keep the buff by getting hit, hitting enemies and killing enemies but it looks like that you only keep the buff by killing enemies.

I just took a clip where I got hit and I didn't keep the buff.

[frail merlin]

Ok, here is a clip of where I clearly get hit the whole time but the buff won’t go away. Getting hit got no real punishment or positive when using the funky gameboy item.

[noble furnace]

Gimme me a moment to post it.

[short iris]

I think yall are both miscommunicating a lot, ronney asked if getting hit doesn't remove the buff and you said no which he took as "no, it does remove the buff" instead of as "no, it doesn't remove the buff"

[noble furnace]

Soo on the switch it behaves differently than the Xbox. nice.

[frail merlin]

Hence why I asked this because I was so confused by the word play

[noble furnace]

I am waiting for the clip where I get hit and I don't keep the buff and like I wrote on the halcyonite one, I was hitting the halcyonite and I didn't keep the buff.

[frail merlin]

Bdw the buff doesn’t last that long, only like 5 seconds

[short iris]

Also I'm about to hit the tower with a 2nd clip give me a second

Get ready

[noble furnace]

Yeah I know, but like I wrote, it looks like that the buff does stay if you hit the enemy and/or get hit on switch and on Xbox that doesn't happen.
Unless it's a weird interaction that only happens with power mode multy.

[short iris]

@noble furnace @wispy crypt Footage of hits making the duration longer, aswell as making it so you don't actually need to kill enemies quickly but kill them while dealing damage regularly (??) https://youtu.be/YAxx-MTPqzk?si=_HPt0Co_6rjlItn5

[noble furnace]

Okay, here is where I get hit and the buff gets removed.

[short iris]

Calvin you're misunderstaning a lot, ronny was asking if getting hit will actively remove the buff BECAUSE you get hit

That's just the duration wearing off

[noble furnace]

Oh okay but why didn't I keep the buff while hitting the halcyonite here?
#ror2-console-discussion message

Like you guys.

[short iris]

I have 0 idea but I'm assuming it's the halcyonite shield because of how abhorently and utterly broken the gilded enemies are. Or mult?

[noble furnace]

Yeah, I am testing that.

[short iris]

Go and see if commando has the same issue in a test against a boss, surely it's not an Xbox glitch right..... Right.... Ahah.....

I think I might fucking hate this item

[frail merlin]

Gearbox cursed your Xbox or something (I have no idea, possibly a Xbox bug) 🤷‍♂️

[noble furnace]

Xbox glitch or multy glitch.

[short iris]

Ffuuccckkkkk I should test it on mul-t but I don't wanna go through the 3 minutes loading time on starting the game upppp ughhh

[frail merlin]

Switch privileges of having your game open but not your console

[noble furnace]

I am testing right now, gimme a moment, and sorry for the misunderstanding.

[short iris]

Nah I just switched to balatro.... Smh just wanna be nonbinary eat cereal and play balatro 😔

[short iris]

It's chill Dw about it (: (I guess I'm speaking for ronny here but I'm sure he doesn't mind)

[frail merlin]

Fair, this rabbit hole is already deep and scary enough.

[short iris]

Every time I open this game I enter purgatory of testing

[frail merlin]

If only the game worked like it should😔(thanks gearbox)

[noble furnace]

OMG, everything points out that it's a mult-y bug, probably with power mode or something.
@frail merlin @short iris

[frail merlin]

Probably power mode since it’s buff related

[short iris]

WELLLLPPPPP FUCKKKKKK AFTER THIS BALATRO RUN I'M BACK TO RISK OF RAIN

[frail merlin]

Also meaning there’s a chance for armor in general to affect it

[short iris]

Chronic expansion is really the Oppenheimer of bugs

[frail merlin]

Gearbox coding team sure is something else

[noble furnace]

It's something with power mode and I believe it's something similar as burn cutting out the timer of bleed, the movement speed reduction debuff from power mode may do the same with the chronic expansion buff.

But I can confirm that getting hit doesn't keep the buff active or reset the timer.

[short iris]

@true reef can you say the line rn I think it's fitting

Just give them a second

[hot hill]

All NB do is eat hot cereal and lie

[short iris]

I would never lie,,,

[noble furnace]

I am about to have a brain aneurysm, Soo mult-y is not the problem, it's hitting something that has armor, according to all the information I gathered.

I am about to cry god dammit.

Soo... In short, chronic expansion buffs you can keep them active by hitting enemies and killing but if you hit an enemy with armor that can't keep the buff active.

[short iris]

Gilded aspect yet again gains it's 50th glitch

[hot hill]

sots just can't stop winning

Nyoom

[frail merlin]

I love iframe

[hot hill]

Don't you love unstable transmitter?

[wispy crypt]

This run went so badly tbh

[noble furnace]

Is as inconsistent as power elixir.

[wispy crypt]

The only thing I got out of that run was that strides does not work like egg and instead like soujourn

And that vase works like egg but without much usefulness gained out of the oob travel

[frail merlin]

“The run went badly” says the guy who used the shrine of order . I was thriving with my boomerang build.

[scenic sinew]

is pc and console crossplay yet?

[wispy crypt]

No

It likely wont ever happen either

[scenic sinew]

Is there Xbox to PS4 cross play?

[wispy crypt]

Also no

[hot hill]

Only crossgen play

Xbox one and series, ps4 and ps5, and switch and 3ds

[noble furnace]

Wait... Risk of rain 2 is on 3ds?!
Poor console.

[frail merlin]

There’s no way it’s on the 3rds. I’ve seen no mention of it😭

[rose river]

Dont forget the ps vita port

[noble furnace]

Yeah I just checked and risk of rain 2 is not on 3DS but imagine if it was.
ENTER THE GAME
EXPLODES

[frail merlin]

Lmao

[noble furnace]

Huh

[hot hill]

[noble furnace]

So this is a frickin lie.

[hot hill]

That picture is ror2 with sots, too

[noble furnace]

How?

[hot hill]

-# 99% sure it's just a picture on their 3ds

[noble furnace]

I am laughing really hard.

[noble furnace]

OK.

[hot hill]

I love hopoos response

Don't do that

[frail merlin]

I think there a way to modify you 3ds to play other game, I remember seeing a YouTube video where someone plays Roblox on it.

[hot hill]

Maybe but consider how the switch handles ror2

And then go back a console gen

[noble furnace]

Hopoo be like: kaboom?

[frail merlin]

It may be the screen only and its actually a pc tanking the performance

[wispy crypt]

Well

It has the xbox button visuals

So like????

Shits weird

[noble furnace]

Yeah, but it's a good joke.

[wispy crypt]

(Also L3 and R3 literally being slapped on the touch screen because they dont exist on the 3ds buttons)

[tribal solstice]

Is now a good time to buy the dlc

[kindred heron]

I'd say so
BUT, if you really want to, you could wait for the balance patch to release

[hot hill]

I'd wait for the rebalances they said we'd get

I have it and like it but it definitely needs some more polish

Like @short iris

[tribal solstice]

They haven't promised more patches

[hot hill]

Okay, hang on

[short iris]

They have several times

Next patch has elite changes, chef changes, false son boss changes, item changes and bug fixes

[hot hill]

https://x.com/RiskofRain/status/1836109328769781990?t=Nyi7DamhcHFxgdPNUUemSg&s=19

Risk of Rain (@RiskofRain) on X

We see your feedback, y'all. Changes to the new Survivors and their abilities (yes, including Chef) are most certainly in the works. Stay tuned for info.

Twitter · Sep 17, 2024, 6:25 PM

There you go

[short iris]

Also my opinion of it changes extremely on the daily so its up in the air I have no idea tbh

[hot hill]

The joke was you are polish

[short iris]

OOOOHHHH wait why do you even know that

[hot hill]

You told me when I asked about the currency on your ps store screen

[short iris]

Oooooohhh dementia

[hot hill]

But yeah, joke involving the homonym that is polish

[tribal solstice]

Thanks

[short iris]

The person herself admitted that it was just a stream from her pc 💔

[wispy crypt]

[hot hill]

[kindred heron]

[tribal solstice]

Still a month ago with no updates though

[kindred heron]

Well yeah?

Updates take time

[tribal solstice]

I meant like info

[kindred heron]

I see

[hot hill]

Isn't it fun resetting the game between runs to reduce the chance of a crash 🙂 @wispy crypt

[short iris]

The hell is a silent message what is this blasphemy

[hot hill]

Doesn't send out a push notification, like in case you don't want to bother them sleeping or something

But they'll still see a highlight

[short iris]

Oh is it a thing on mobile

[hot hill]

Should be

Like, are you asking how to do it?

[wispy crypt]

I dont do that

Mf discord forgot to scroll down

[hot hill]

You just let it crash?

[wispy crypt]

No it just doesnt crash anymore

[hot hill]

What

[wispy crypt]

Idfk what I did but my game hasnt crashed in a good while

[hot hill]

Teach me your secrets

[wispy crypt]

Even like this run where first ronny and then toast the host crashed
I checked everything that frequently causes crashes

I looked at logs, went into the survivor select menu, started a run, went into the multiplayer friend lobby list

But nothing crashed

[hot hill]

Maybe I should stop worrying about it then

[wispy crypt]

Idk maybe maybe not

[short iris]

Did anyone else ever even like talk about that happening to them, like did ronny even have this issue?

[hot hill]

The game has yet to crash on my ps5

[wispy crypt]

Yes ronny crashed a few minutes earlier in this run

[short iris]

Ou yeah no i can 100% tell you the absolutely random crashing mid run after doing 1 run is not s thing on ps

[wispy crypt]

And then later in a run I disconnected from because I tabbed out for too long both of them crashed just before ending a run

I also spent like an hour yesterday starting and resetting runs to farm the halcyonite log (unsuccessfully) and no crashes happened either

My game's just done ig

Got bored of crashing

I should probably agree to more looped multiplayer runs in the future to see if it really wasnt just luck

Only thing that now needs to miraculously fix itself is the music

If that happens Im going to the casino

Oh also

I found out that vase works like egg in that it preserves your in bounds warp until you exit it

However unlike egg I have not found a use for it yet since I cant think of any way to chain it into something that lets you stay out of bounds for longer

Its so fun to mess around with that property especially once you use it to stay out of bounds

Really makes ya feel like tom scott https://youtu.be/_MJRecWakxw?si=Tas761P1gCnh9iR2

[frail merlin]

Well I never said it guaranteed on every second run sometimes you make it to the third or even the fifth run. From my experience it’s the longer stage you are the more likely you are to crash.
If I die early on stage 1-3 I won’t reset but if it’s 4+ I always reset and risk of crashing if I don’t. But most crashes feels related to the moon, whether I’m completed a run on the moon or crash on it and even just activating the tp to it.

[frail merlin]

If I remember correctly I did a run with toast where we died on stage 4 or 5 before Wertus joined in.

Last point I wanted to tell is that the bug/problem is entirely random and is probably not related to lag. And I don’t loop so much so from the few looped run I did I haven’t randomly crashed even if I did some run before that.

[hot hill]

It feels like some kind of memory leak

[frail merlin]

Could be anything at this point knowing how gearbox tends to mess up the most simplest stuff.

[tribal solstice]

Is the dlc fun to play in it's current state?

[kindred heron]

Imo yes, but there's still balancing that needs to be done
Luckily, Gearbox is working on a balance patch

[shadow talon]

does mult fly work on console

[noble furnace]

Yes

[shadow talon]

is it ez

[noble furnace]

You need like 7 of attack speed to barely be able to do it but obviously the more attack speed you have after that point the easier it's.

[shadow talon]

ok

[arctic locust]

Can eviscerate proc items?

[dense hamlet]

Naw

[noble furnace]

Yes

[heavy sierra]

Is console playable now??

[noble furnace]

Yes

[upbeat star]

You wouldn't believe what was doing most of my damage

Honestly huntress needs a buff so badly, she does almost nothing after stage 2 on monsoon/eclipse unless you get perfect items

Because I got really good items at the start (except for you, shit bonds) and I still couldn't do much but run away for 7 minutes to beat just the stage 3 teleporter, I knew I wasn't going to get past stage 4

Also looking back at it, I thought I got a Kjaro's band, but nope. It was a Runald's.

To spoil the answer to what was doing most of my damage towards the end;
It was egocentrism. Literally egocentrism even at 1 stack was doing more consistent damage than all of my attacks

Ballista was putting in good work, but not as well as ego

[noble furnace]

[short iris]

Idk why but I just don’t get it tbh

[frail merlin]

Ego carried you? Nah war bonds was clearly the one doing the heavy lifting.

[stark beacon]

Not risk of rain returns channel but I finally beat the game with miner holy shit

[upbeat star]

The weakest Engineer vs the strongest Huntress

[short iris]

Were those clovers all natural

[upbeat star]

Soup

All my movement speed was natural though

[short iris]

Most of these items look like command dead ass

Good stuff though

[upbeat star]

Its the power of the weakest engineer I guess

[short iris]

Can’t let this get to me.

[upbeat star]

It's even verified by it being eclipse too

[heavy sierra]

Thank you

[hot hill]

Huntress is definitely one of the weaker but that doesn't make her less fun to play or unplayable
-# Unlike Chef

[frail merlin]

Is this run supposed to be bad or something because these items are great

[hot hill]

Yeah, the difference between item strengths hella affects that comparison

[frail merlin]

Well if he wanna play that game I can just do this.

[short iris]

I genuinely never know where the weird “huntress is terrible and has the worst damage in the game” thing came from

It was so crazy nonstop 24/7 talked about in 2020-2022 or smth like nothing ever changed what happened

[torn fossil]

huntress no alt special

[noble furnace]

It's because of the auto aim, majority of people think because the auto aim doesn't aim to the target that you want this makes them think that huntress doesn't deal that much damage but in reality you are dealing really good damage because you never miss, the only way to miss is with her ballista but that is the only ability that you have to aim manually and actually doesn't have an 100% hit rate and if I being honest, not knowing how to use correctly the auto aim to put it on a specific target that is the biggest skill issue of the game.

[frail merlin]

Or just play it patiently since huntress feels immortal as long you are consistently dodging.

[noble furnace]

Yep

[junior perch]

I died to phase 3 Mithrix after this

I hate pizza

[elder trench]

Hehe

[upbeat star]

Yeah it's not a good comparison because of the items, but I thought it was funny

[upbeat star]

Huntress player try not to spend 10 minutes fighting the 2nd teleporter boss:

[hot hill]

Never have

[wispy crypt]

Ok this is easily the craziest thing I have ever recorded
My controller died and only reconnected right as this clip starts
I survived on 2 FUCKING HP

Like I can believe getting 2 visions from kjaro and runald with just one eulogy, I can believe failing a chance shrine 10 times in a row
But this, this just doesnt feel real

Like bro I will never do something more clutch than this

[main sonnet]

and you didn’t take them?

[wispy crypt]

Not as captain

[main sonnet]

Also kinda surprised you didn’t immediately start using spikes to regen and flee

[wispy crypt]

My mind was elsewhere

I was just completely stunned by the fact that I literally reconnected the last few frames before I wouldve died

[main sonnet]

Also, isn’t having a eulogy zero every run so much fun?

[wispy crypt]

Yes

[main sonnet]

There is no other way to play the game.

[wispy crypt]

I got 6 throughout that run

And eventually just became so tanky even twisted elites weren't an issue anymore

[main sonnet]

With a single eulogy, I once got a eulogy zero printer and got all the way up to 20

[wispy crypt]

Unfortunately the host crashed at the end of stage 10

Right as we were about to go finish the run

[kindred heron]

That's actually crazy

[main sonnet]

Crazy?

[hot hill]

I was crazy once

[tribal solstice]

Is shrine of shaping worth it? (Stage 2, huntress, already have a shaped glass)

[hot hill]

It's always a 30% but it's 30% of the 50% so it would bring you down to 35% of actual max health

As for worth it, not sure I would but I also don't take shaped glass on her so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random saddle]

Sure, it's free revive without any downside

Honestly I hope gearbox will nerf it somehow

Like maybe if you will die you max hp will be decreased for the rest of run

[hot hill]

There's sort of a downside if you have watches. You may revive but your watches will stay broken

[wispy crypt]

No it needs to be buffed

Im not even joking

The thing costs 50 loot credits which is just over 3 entire chests worth of loot

[random saddle]

But it can save you or your friend

[wispy crypt]

It cant save the stage from having no items

[random saddle]

3 potential items not as strong if you are not luckiest person in the world and this 50 credits could be spended on anything else

[wispy crypt]

And the revive doesnt transfer to other stages so if you never died that stage you just lost 3 items for nothing

Or at least something of that value

[main sonnet]

A revive doesn’t matter quite as much out those 3 items could’ve just prevented you from dying

[neon ember]

Hey, i have a problem with online play. My buddy and I are trying to play as always on switch. It won't let us. Keeps saying "Unable to connect to other console". Like we're both connected to our respective Internet, updated and all that. What is this and why?

[minor dawn]

Ahhh, nothing like unstable transmitter killing you for the hundredth time

teleported into lava, what a great item

[tribal solstice]

It usually just teleports your corpse

[minor dawn]

Whoa, that's dope

It's alright I'm sure I would've died anyway

[torpid ether]

Hey, I just got the game and wanted to play couch coop with my partner. Does Split screen coop not work?

[sweet edge]

It's XSX/PS5 only

[white quarry]

(And series S)

[torpid ether]

Wait it is for the series S? I have that and split screen still doesn’t seem like it’s working.

[white quarry]

Wait

Yuh I was wrong just series X and PS5

I always assume that S and X get the same treatment more or less

The original post for it is in the pins

[main sonnet]

That would be logical though.

[white quarry]

I was so right

[hot hill]

I have no idea what gen an xbox is by name anymore

[noble furnace]

There is no "multiplayer split screen" option on the main menu?

[upbeat star]

I recently got two shaped glasses from runald and kjaro with eulogy, which I found funny at the time since I had just seen your clip of it at the time

[torpid ether]

There is the option but when I select it it doesn’t give me the option to add in a second player. I tried Turning on a separate controller and press every button but that didn’t work either.

[noble furnace]

Weird, at the same time on the video where they announced the split screen it says "PS5 and Xbox series X" nothing about series S so it's expected that doesn't work.

[sweet edge]

It's not for the Series S at all.

[torpid ether]

That really sucks

[sweet edge]

The system can't handle it, so it's more a console issue than a dev issue. :(

[tribal solstice]

Have the devs ever spoken about mod support for console?

[wispy crypt]

No because it is highly unlikely to happen

Microsoft, sony and especially nintendo arent very fond of software on their system being modified

[tribal solstice]

Just like an in-game workshop or smth

Minecraft has one

[wispy crypt]

Minecraft is also a far bigger game than ror2

Not even the pc version has official mod support

[sweet edge]

extremely unlikely because of the restrictions and regulations that every mod would have to go through. it's a huge deal that even a game like BG3 has mods, and it just got them a couple weeks ago on consoles

there's no way they're doing it for a game as comparatively tiny as RoR

[tribal solstice]

Man

Fuck

[hot hill]

Wait, bg3 consoles have mods now too?

Guess it's time to boot it back up

[frail merlin]

I wonder if TABS workshop would be considered mod support

[elder trench]

Technically no since they don't alter or add anything fully, just use the given tools (like custom maps and miis in ssbu)

[desert girder]

Is it possible for A memory leak on switch to affect chest drops? My ror2 usually crashes after ~10runs (10hrs total?). Non continuous, and usually 1 run is up till stage 3, so 40 min average.

I noticed my past 5 runs had so little chests with nothing to compensate for them, not much shrines, not much drones. But after it crashed, my first run, loot qty is back to normal

[short iris]

Would seem pretty unlikely? I don't think anyone has ever had that happen to them

ALSO NEW RND VIDEO IS ACTUALLY ACCURATE AND NOT MISINFORMATION AND 1000% CORRECT

[noble furnace]

@short iris @frail merlin
https://youtu.be/7TbVgkvAFT4?si=_cqpG_bWKAuiOed_
About the discussion that we did the other day now RND did a video with better information about chronic expansion and why sometimes attacking doesn't keep the buff, he forgot about elites but I already told him that when gilded elites activate their aura that doesn't count as "in combat" for chronic expansion.

[short iris]

Are you sure it was the gilded shield and not just the fact that halcyonite don't count as he said

[noble furnace]

I didn't hear that halcyonite doesn't count and when he shows up the graph with all the enemies the halcyonite didn't have a "X" meaning that if you you him doesn't count as in combat.

[short iris]

He did say it doesn't count, the X was just missing

He just says "halcyonite guardian" for some reason

[noble furnace]

Aaa that is why I got confused.

But welp, now we know better about the bug.

[short iris]

Excited to see charmlie dig into it Im curious why this happens

[noble furnace]

And why those specific enemies and bosses.

[short iris]

I won't even bother updating the wiki for it, surely it'll get patched next update

Surely.

[noble furnace]

[wispy crypt]

I just quickly want to report here that I am currently on treeborn with 2 environment scanners

I have the log and the game presents 2 more opportunities to get it

At the same time

I didnt even know it was possible for more than one to spawn at a time

3

3 ENVIRONMENT SCANNERS

WHY
ALWAYS
MEEEEE

I even got 2 on screen simultaneously

Like bro how

All I wanted was the mando pm skin

And lunar coins

[random saddle]

why not me 😭

I had to go through sundered grove not ironically 99 times before I'm unlocked it's log

[frail merlin]

The radar thingy does kinda blend in the environment, so there sometimes people who just completely miss it or just plain unluck.

[wispy crypt]

Finally got acrid's and with it all alt abilities

Along with its pm and mastery so I will never have to play this thing again

[wooden agate]

I can never get this variant of the stage

[wispy crypt]

This is just regular treeborn tho

[fresh ferry]

First and only so far win against FS was with melee acrid. Though I did loop a bit cause jfc I can’t beat him normally lol

[hot hill]

Damn, Mul-Ts retool and the overloading aspect can get you close to immortal, can't it

But not quite

[elder trench]

As long as you're above 50% with good defense

[hot hill]

And don't get one shot like I definitely didn't

Overwhelmed with glacials, got froze, then deleted by all the elite templars in vields

Was going for mults challenge to get power mode

[elder trench]

Definitely

When would that happen though? Neeever

[fresh ferry]

That challenge is rough but fun

Gotta move pretty quick to try to keep the difficulty down too

[shadow pollen]

So many bugs....

[noble furnace]

It's playable

[deft river]

It's not completely unplayable

[wispy crypt]

Im gonna miss the double elites

[strange flax]

Why are there non existent stages in logbook 36 slots but only 32-33 stages

[wispy crypt]

Theyre kinda growing on me