ror2-console-discussion

[vale yacht]

How little I mean

[wispy crypt]

Because clover doesnt mess with tougher times

[vale yacht]

As I said, in my experience

[untold valley]

I know “very technically” warped echo gives you a higher damage block chance

[noble furnace]

It's just chance so you may be lucky but like I wrote, the stat of luck that gets affected by clover and purity doesn't affect tougher times.

[vale yacht]

Weird

[wispy crypt]

It is most likely perception bias making you notice the blocks more when you have clover

But the actual numbers dont change

[noble furnace]

And he being lucky with the blocks because it's a chance base block.

[noble furnace]

That music though

[untold valley]

I wish 😭

Are any of the lunar equipments any decent? My only thought is hellfire tincture but one ignition tank would insta kill you upon activating

[wispy crypt]

Theyre all good in specific circumstances

[noble furnace]

Tonic is good example

[wispy crypt]

Well meteorite fucks ass now

[raw wing]

tincture without ignition tanks is usually very good with repulsion plates

but you can go beyond that

[untold valley]

Was it changed?

[raw wing]

tincture + plates + planula + voidsent flame

[wispy crypt]

Look how they massacred my boy

[noble furnace]

= the best stress test for the game

[rocky drift]

Tf is osp

[wispy crypt]

BRUH

[rocky drift]

Meteor + supply goes hard tf

[wispy crypt]

Though tbh

[rocky drift]

My friend was later shredded in less than a second by the lazer

[wispy crypt]

If meteorite hadnt been such a disappointment I wouldve never stuck around fucking around and discovering the egg bug

So ig thats a plus

[rocky drift]

Egg bug?

[untold valley]

Is effigy of grief insane? It looks like it doesn’t really have a drawback

[noble furnace]

Osp only activates if the hit chunks you enough to reach 10% of your health, so 2 things hits you almost at the same time and the first hit only deals 20% of your health and then the next hit deals a giga amount like 3 times as your health that will kill you because the first hit didn't triggered the osp because it didn't reached 10% of your health.

[wispy crypt]

Vulcanic egg ignores the warp boundaries now
In client multiplayer you can even safely go out of egg once youve passed the boundary and move freely

[untold valley]

VOIDECENT WORKS ON YOURSELF TOO????

[rocky drift]

Yeah, but it really looked like only one thing hit me there

[noble furnace]

Yep

[wispy crypt]

Safe to say I had a lot of fun testing the extends of this

[raw wing]

only if ur full hp

[rocky drift]

I wanted a new difficult boss, and they gave me one ig

[raw wing]

it wont dmg you, but itll hurt enemies

[rocky drift]

[raw wing]

so, u want barrier planula etc stuff like that for voidsent tincture

actually speaking of seeker, she also can use ignition tank + tincture

because during her shift she is invuln to everything except the shift selfdmg

so, pop tincture before entering. i forgot it on my first shift, but u can see the tincture tech 1:29 in here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691758342401687563/1280705588069797958/2024-09-03_21-32-07_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66f17146&is=66f01fc6&hm=27e475b89ab2e4e844cd2987276785f0954c68fb9e80d7d05e923dca98adfe4c&

besides tincture, tonic is pretty OP

you dont have to spam it, or even have gestures, using it as emergency button is good too

itll like double ur hp, dmg, attack speed, movespeed,

[noble furnace]

Welp, I checked your clip in slow mode and it looks like that the meteor that landed on you hits twice and probably warped echo didn't let you proc osp out of the first hit of the meteor.

[wispy crypt]

I love taking tincture when I have like 8 ignition tanks

Its the ultimate glass cannon build

[untold valley]

I wonder how much negation or healing you need to reliably make ignition tank work

[wispy crypt]

Too much

I usually burn down to 1 hp before even half of tinctures duration runs out with a few igniton tanks

[untold valley]

So if you run hellfire don’t go ignition

[rocky drift]

Damn 😔

[raw wing]

unfortunately, u cant proc voidsent on urself inside seeker shift

[untold valley]

That makes sense but I’m guessing the invincibility from outside damage is better than the damage from voidsent?

[rapid rampart]

How do I stop losing access to characters

[viral orbit]

How many players can do split screen on Xbox?

[noble furnace]

Only 2

[pale mountain]

You mean it didn't save? Try switching some loadouts to trigger a save if that's the case

[viral orbit]

Damn... thank you so much 🤙🏽🤙🏽

[noble furnace]

What grunch wrote and make sure that appears 2 arrows doing a circle at the bottom right of the screen, that means that your game got saved.

[hot hill]

Kipkip the gentle can fuck right off. I have gone to fight the twisted scavenger only twice so far on my fresh save on ps5 and both times it has been kipkip

[onyx mulch]

Sounds like the average Kipkip encounter

[forest gazelle]

tonic with like five gestures makes you a crackhead but be careful if you decide to go to like 7-10 gestures because if you lose you tonic you are garunteed to have atleast 3 afflictions if you arent very lucky

[vocal vector]

hope im not out of the loop here, but is anyone else getting a strange issue where friends in the same lobby as you won’t get the mastery achievement/skin? two of us did and two of us didn’t

(multiple times now)

[fluid stag]

Anyone on xbox wanna play? I'm new

[fluid stag]

@here

[noble furnace]

Better ask on #lfg-xbox-ror2

[fluid stag]

My fault

[noble furnace]

Np

[lunar tinsel]

Guys dumb question, but how does my friend join my game in split screen for xbox? We're in local split screen but there's no prompt anywhere for him to join

[noble furnace]

Connect the second controller and then press any button with it once you are in the select survivor menu after selecting the multiplayer split screen.

[sinful galleon]

BRO WHAT IS THAT HEALING

I usually only see Twiptwip the Devotee

In fact that might be the only twisted scavenger I've fought

[hot hill]

Kipkip is disgusting

[sinful galleon]

What items does he have?

[raw wing]

they all have unique starting items

kipkip has the most healing and defense

[sinful galleon]

I guess that's why I see a rejuvenation rack

[raw wing]

note that scav m2s proc onkills, so the tooths are used that way

[sinful galleon]

3 genesis loop

[raw wing]

huntress has pretty low dps, but in that clip they had enough to permastack bleed so theyll eventually go down there

[hot hill]

Except he didn't die

I gave up after 10 solid minutes of damage

[raw wing]

rip gg

maybe after another 10 mins of bleed stacking 👍

[noble furnace]

Welp, 3 days in and I already have seeker on eclipse 7.

[raw wing]

seeker is great in eclipse yea

most of the stuff doesnt really impact her, like barrier doesnt get e5'ed for instance

its mostly just e8

[noble furnace]

Noted

[solar vessel]

Me an some buds goofy off

[untold valley]

Finally 100% the game excluding some environment logs

[noble furnace]

Welp, I just noticed something with false son laser, I am watching Raydans stream and I noticed that the beam is straight and doesn't move that much and I just remember that one thing I didn't like about the laser on Xbox is how inaccurate it's, basically like doing the xi construct aneurysm laser, and now that I think about it, they connects, xi construct aneurysm laser and false inaccurate laser are basically having the same problem, let me get a clip so someone on PC can compare it.

[solar vessel]

Will console ever get fixed?

[noble furnace]

At this point I don't know, I have been here for so long that I lost hope.

[solar vessel]

That's fair

[noble furnace]

Okay, here is the clip, I discovered that if you stand still its straight but if you move it starts to have an aneurysm the laser but the fun thing is, I saw on Raydans stream that it was always straight the laser no matter if he moves or not and he plays on PC.

[ivory viper]

The laser moves with the character model when walking and sprinting especially

[noble furnace]

But I saw Raydans also moving and it was not as inaccurate as the clip I posted, it was straight.

Okay, I may be a little dumb but I forgot that they added a setting that makes attacks have some homing, I have that setting on 5 and Raydans may have it at 10 that maybe why it was straight the laser with Raydans while hitting an enemy and moving, my bad.

[regal edge]

I can finally be happy

[cerulean ruin]

Quick question, did they fix the split screen bug where it deletes your save?

[wet widget]

What if instead if seekers of the storm.it was freakers of the storm and instead of killing enemies and teleporting to other stages you ate ass and sucked toes

[spark fulcrum]

you are weak and⬇️

[regal edge]

Ok bro

Lmfao

[pale mountain]

Lol

[noble furnace]

Yes

[dusky rivet]

I dont think raydan would actually ever turn aim assist on max it just doesnt sound like him, i check on pc later today

[short iris]

ISAAC ANTIBIRTH MUSIC MENTIONED RAAAHHHH

[cerulean glade]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-engineer-jo-jo-dance-gif-17794493

[rose river]

Did

Did a fucking blind pest shoot me the frame after anothet one shot me

So i just got oneshot.

[wispy crypt]

Happens

[rose river]

Osp is such a very relevant mechanic

[wispy crypt]

At least its better than getting 2 shot by a singular explosion

[rose river]

Its not like youre playing a game with enemys in hordes. Nah

[short iris]

A tip that helped me a lot is realizing that sound effects, even when subconsciously, help a fuck ton

[rose river]

this happennd to a freind of mine mid co op run because of frost relic lol

[short iris]

To be fair. Mithrix. And vagrant, and grandparent rocks

I understand the frustration though

[rose river]

Vagrants are piss easy
Mithrix fair ig

...what fucking rocks?????

[wispy crypt]

In all my playtime I have never been hit by a grandparent rock

[short iris]

Grandparents can throw the rocks in my medows at you and they deal a crazy amount of damage

[rose river]

I literally only die when their sun attack decides that nah. Im not behijd cover or out of range in time

[short iris]

One time I got slightly chipped by mushroom acid and then instantly finished off by the rock thrown at me at 100mph

[wispy crypt]

I always make sure to scout out a safe spot before engaging grandparents

Gotta know of at least one place to retreat to

[short iris]

Honestly If osp didn't exist mithrix would genuinely just be unfun, a single mistake and youre insta dead

[rose river]

Counterpoint dont get hit /j

[short iris]

[frail merlin]

If one thing all my hours in ror2 have I learned that you should never rely on osp.

[short iris]

Not even drizzle is enough to withstand false son laser for more then 2 seconds WTF 😭

[frail merlin]

It’s so overturned

[short iris]

Worst part is it wasnt really avoidable, tried to go to the geode to get my abilities back but it was in the open and he immediately started lasering with 0 windup and insta kills me

[wispy crypt]

I dont really get it

Every time ive encountered the laser I was able to tank through a few seconds of it

Before getting behind cover

[frail merlin]

I just don’t fight him in the first place

[fierce juniper]

Bro why is gyroscopic controls on switch actually fun? 😂
It may be a little buggier, but I like the extra challenge of the gyroscopic controls.

Also, just a tip, bandits invisibility and the OLD WAR STEALTHKIT is top tier against false son

[wispy crypt]

stick control full aim sensitivity no aim assist

[frail merlin]

Everyone is kinda sleeping on gyro aim, splatoon gotta be like the only game I’ve heard utilizing it.

[wispy crypt]

Client multiplayer with hefty lag on artificer

The only true way to play the game

Maximum pain

[wispy crypt]

I use gyro for botw and totk

It just feels natural to use the stick for the rough direction and the gyro for the fine adjustments

[frail merlin]

I kinda forgot that game had gyro control (I also use it)

Pot rolling with railgunner is the golf of ror2

[wispy crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/ass-wii-wii-u-wii-sports-wii-sports-club-gif-21248265

[short iris]

Does anyone also STILL have the issue with vagrant balls? Was that even fixed??

[wispy crypt]

Supposedly

From what ive heard it only affects skills that require to be locked on (i.e. huntress primary) and clients in mp

[short iris]

Huh.

Just had my artificer m1 just like. Ignore it

7 times in a row ):

[wispy crypt]

Odd

[wooden knot]

So an update rolled on xbox that fixed the attack speed with scaling up with the fps, about a week ago another one came out but I think it made the issue appear again. Anyone else has expirenced it?

[mighty citrus]

No way is that actually true

[short iris]

NOOOO PHASE 2 FALSE SON DIED ON THE OUTER ARENA WHEN DROPPING THE LUNAR COIN AND ITS NOW UNACCESSIBLE

Goodbye my dear...

Taking suggestions for what I should've done here (culdbt be bothered to upload so I just took a video)

And as I press square to get out of the death screen my game crashes. Amazing

[noble furnace]

Did you notice that during void fields and/or having the artifact of evolution on or did you play on eclipse 7?

[noble furnace]

The bug is still alive but from my experience it looks like that you can damage the ball at the moment that spawns and once it starts to move it becomes immortal so either having something that can insta hit it at the moment that spawns or juke it to a wall or floor.

[frail merlin]

So anyone remember the bug where loader alt secondary wouldn’t pull enemies if you weren’t hosting, well it’s back.

[wispy crypt]

Oh my lard

Also this fucking audio bug

They turned arti into a god damn siren

Non hosting giveth and non hosting taketh away

[noble furnace]

Why arti?, that audio bug is from engi mines.

[wispy crypt]

No not the beeping

I mean that faint wavy sound

Its only really noticeable once you get rid of it

Ill go make a clip of it rq

Since I know how to replicate and end it

[noble furnace]

Okay

[wispy crypt]

COME THE FUCK ON

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME

found another bug on the side

2 NATURALLY spawning golems in a stage with kin thats supposed to only spawn beetles

No I did not mess with the halcyon shrine

There are just golems in my beetle kin stage now

Anyways got the clip of the noise

Quickly gonna cut and get it over here

Cant even go into a 5 minute test run without finding another bug istfg

[solar vessel]

Risk of rain doin risk of rain stuff

Maby one day they'll fix it

[wispy crypt]

But anyways ice wall sometimes creates this noise

This setup is the most consistent way to create and end it but overall the bug is very inconsistent

It sometimes occurs without ion and sometimes doesnt go away when using ice wall either

But it happens very frequently

[noble furnace]

Okay, good thing I don't use ion but still, I don't know what is worse, this audio bug or the one that used to exist with ice spear.

[solar vessel]

Dose it only do it if you cast them at the same time, I use ion

[wispy crypt]

I have no fucking clue

[solar vessel]

😔

[wispy crypt]

It appeared just frequently without much warning

Even when my friend used arti with flamer

[solar vessel]

Dam can't wait till I run into it

[wispy crypt]

It just happens

This specific method is the one way I know how to force it though

[solar vessel]

Lol just don't use ice wall, lol not like it's a REALLY good way to freeze shit

[wispy crypt]

Well "force" it since that method also sometimes didnt work by simply not causing the ice wall to cancel and reapply each frame

Its just overall very weird

[frail merlin]

Gearbox is starting to justify my choice of playing without audio

[wispy crypt]

Dude a chance shrine failed 7 times on me now

I dont even know how much more it wouldve failed because I ran out of money lmao

It did give a card though

[short iris]

Depressing

WHAT THE FUCK I KEEP VERY RARELY HEARING RANDOM NOISES MINUTES AFTER I PAUSED THE GAME

IT FEELS LIKE IM LOSING IT

[delicate cave]

they're coming for you

[short iris]

What the fuck i have never ever heard that sound effect ever????? It's like a glass shattering sound effect specifically in my left ear???

Getting a clip of this

[delicate cave]

check your window

[wispy crypt]

Same dude

Ever since.... I think sotv or even anniversary (when I started playing)

Seems to be common with diablo

[frail merlin]

Just prove it further that gearbox has cursed you all

[delicate cave]

it's like random noises every time. ive seen clips, the first one i saw of it was the wisp dying cackle thing. must've terrified the guy lol

[wispy crypt]

Ok I just got deleted by a grovetender wtf

[short iris]

Chain shotgun

[delicate cave]

or the imp cackle actually, one of them. that or grovetender spawning wisps sound effect. i dont remember which one has the gremlin laugh

[wispy crypt]

Not even

[frail merlin]

I think I remember seeing a report about random notices in the menu like half a year ago

[wispy crypt]

It was the stupid wisps

[short iris]

Also for some reason trying to upload that clip completely unliked my Google YouTube and playstation account... Gearbox Is trying to keep me from spreading the truth...

[wispy crypt]

What an embarrassing way to go out

[delicate cave]

gearbox doesnt make mistakes. no spreading misinformation. you will be sent to a freedom camp.

[wispy crypt]

I never took those tiny shits seriously

[short iris]

https://youtu.be/-pWf_Agwsbc?si=BFl5S5wIEx6NK_l4

Is that the fucking power elixer sound effect??

[delicate cave]

probably because all it takes is one gasoline honestly. the xi construct bosses have the same problem

[wispy crypt]

Medkit

[delicate cave]

or something similar yeah

a lot of healing things use the same or similar sound

iirc healing orbs do

[wispy crypt]

Its 10 pm Im sorta tired and should sleep

[delicate cave]

there's probably some logic to what plays but to us it's random sounds from the files probably

[short iris]

My boy we need to put you on risk of rain trivia.

[wispy crypt]

But the arti e2 is calling for me

Also can I just say

Max aim sensitivity kinda goes hard?

[short iris]

TRUE

[wispy crypt]

I dont know why but the sheer adrenaline I get from it is crazy

[short iris]

A somewhat alternative to mouse flicking is so nice

[frail merlin]

It’s all fun and games until you play railgunner

[delicate cave]

fast fps need high sens

[wispy crypt]

Oh hey I never saw that chance doll on shabodes before

[short iris]

It's all fun and games WHEN you play railgunner

[delicate cave]

only strategic shooters and such it's better to use lower sens

[wispy crypt]

Only knew about the one in viscous

[short iris]

Wait there's hidden chance dolls on the new stages???

[delicate cave]

if you get them all a hidden message appears that says "go watch the borderlands movie!"

[wispy crypt]

Ye

Well so far I only know of abodes and viscous

[delicate cave]

honestly it would be cool if there was a super secret with stuff like that

[short iris]

Now they should let us pick it up.....

[frail merlin]

It’s actually crazy how many switch player or just in console are avoiding railgunner. Tho it gives me a sense of accomplishment being one of the few who still plays it.

[short iris]

Robomando arg where are you we need you,,,

[delicate cave]

robohuntress

in ror3 we get robobandit

[short iris]

Honestly from my experience all my friends and people on PS eat up railgunner like crazy, at the beggining I didn't really like her because of the movement but now she's one of my favorites

They should give us robo mul-t

[delicate cave]

inverse rex where it's a robot controlling an ecosystem of plants

[frail merlin]

That’s good but like out of 50 switch player only like 1 will play railgunner, can’t blame them tho the fps is making aiming 10x harder than it should be.

In fact I only remember 2 people since the release of sotv that have played railgunner

[short iris]

Wait I might be crazy but have any of you ever encountered a halcyonite shrine even once on the distant roost veriant with the door that opens and closes sometimes

[delicate cave]

i think so

idk if it was on a loop or not though

[wispy crypt]

Both have a door like that

[delicate cave]

yeah he means the variant where the door is open i think

[short iris]

Oh shit true

Uhmmm The one with a bunch of bridges high on the stage

[frail merlin]

I haven’t, I think that’s the only stage 1 map that doesn’t have a guaranteed spawn

[short iris]

Side tunnel, FUCK that's literally both of them

[delicate cave]

although i think the only thing that gets removed in the variants is the island in the distance, with the long bridge

[short iris]

The one WITHOUT the island

[wispy crypt]

The one with the colossus head?

[short iris]

Yea!!

[wispy crypt]

No coue

[delicate cave]

like this where the X means that part isnt there

[wispy crypt]

Clue

[delicate cave]

(i find it sad i have like every map layout memorized mostly lol)

[frail merlin]

We all suffer from memory loss

[short iris]

Yeah I'm talking about the other one

Without the island and the one with the collosus RoR 1 head in the background

[delicate cave]

yeah. colossus being top right of the map i drew, far above (imaginary. its not actually there, like a reference)

[wispy crypt]

I think you kinda drew a mix of the 2 variants

[delicate cave]

the X means no island but the island is a possible spawn, not much changes other than that right?

there's the outside part with the door and the high ground line

[frail merlin]

It’s the grassy map that isn’t distant root or titanic planes?

[delicate cave]

titanic plains is the one with the giant rings, the half arches that are "titanic" in size
distant roost you can remember because there's flying bugs in the distance, with "distant roosts"

[frail merlin]

Oh wait didn’t titanic plane have a variant where it’s a lot more vertical and stuff

[delicate cave]

kinda

[wispy crypt]

Eh moreso roost

[delicate cave]

wiki source images for first variant

some wiki images for alt

i just took them from the newt section

their verticality is about the same but i think one has a lower spot, so it seems like there's more

there's the pit in the ring

[frail merlin]

Oh yeah I remember now, distant root

[delicate cave]

see image above for distant roost (taken from professional artist on wiki trust)

or just see the environment wiki page

[frail merlin]

I forgot distant root had a 3th variant that completely changes it

This one I also took from the wiki

Why does 2 completely different maps gotta share the same name

[short iris]

Yall remember the cut distant roost veriant I think?

I swear there was smth like that and it got deleto'd from the game on content patch

[delicate cave]

oh i forgot that was distant roost. it's like so different lol

most variations are slight changes

[frail merlin]

I only started playing around when the sotv trailer started popping up on winter, so I don’t think so.

[torn fossil]

for some reason only the 2 original stage 1s have 2 completely unique variants which also have 2 more smaller variants

[delicate cave]

originally they were the only ones, so it had to be a good hook showing the variation and originality of each run for new players

[short iris]

Ok I couldn't find ANY footage of picture or proof of this existing but I swear in some patch pre 1.0 there was a version of distant roost which got removed and there were posts about how they miss "the old Grey distant roost" idk if this is real and got lost to time or if I had some fever dream

[prime token]

[rose river]

#bringbackgreyroots

[short iris]

Would I be judged for saying I think I enjoy playing with all hud turned off

[wispy crypt]

Ok yeah im definitely feeling the fs laser damage

Didnt even have time to go to a geode to get my abilities baxk

Stupid attack honestly

[short iris]

Yea.

[thorn valve]

how many raps do i need to make the pain stop

[wispy crypt]

Glad theyre most likely gonna rework it

[short iris]

5 if your playing on drizzle

Maybe even 7

[wispy crypt]

Because like doing fs is definitely making eclipse more fun for me

[thorn valve]

i know what im gonna do next monsoon command run

[wispy crypt]

Its just that laser

[thorn valve]

reformed altar and treeborn colony are top tier stages ngl

[wispy crypt]

Other than the laser fs is kinda fun

Especially since I can just chill in the air dropping bombs on him

Oh well

[short iris]

I honestly don't know how to deal with FS pre loop, laser aside to just feels like he can dash at me and instantly bonk my ass before I can react

[wispy crypt]

If I see him trying to dash I just dash myself with ion

[short iris]

OH MY GOD ITS A CONCIOUS DESIGN CHOICE

MITHRIX ALSO HAS SPECIFICALLY FOUR TOES

[wispy crypt]

Well yeah

[short iris]

I just really didn't wanna belive it

[wispy crypt]

Oh well

At least the run was fun until laser

Treeborn especially just feels like such an arti stage

Really lets me make use of her aerial flexibility a lot

[thorn valve]

the real peak of treeborn is playing loader on it

falling off the edge over and over and suffering no consequences 😍

[wispy crypt]

Found yet another bug

[short iris]

Suprised

[wispy crypt]

For some reason the background of my statistics is white now

[short iris]

Did you open it in sirens call...?

[wispy crypt]

Like I cannot read any of the stats

No im in the main menu

Like when you hover over an entity it shows all the stats for that entity

The background of that is white now

And I cannot read any of the numbers

Ok the zoom feature of the switch does help with that but its still goofy

I cannot go a single session without finding at least one new bug

[short iris]

Fun fact the zoom feature doesn't work if you're viewing the logbook in a run

[wispy crypt]

Oh wow

So the part of the logbook to the right now that shows name and unlock condition is grey now

[short iris]

Also something I noticed is that apparently the monster section o the logbook in empty spots has slots for other stuff but is blank where everything else in the logbook just is completely empty

[wispy crypt]

Oh I fixed it

Weird

[short iris]

Wait is this normal????

[wispy crypt]

Nop this also sometimes happens

Some object just didnt unload and is now in the background of that logbook part

No clue what that is though

Happened to me a few times

Its especially pretty when it happens to the helminth diarama zoomed in

The purple and pink work pretty well over there

Cant believe im ranking the aesthetics of a bug

[frail merlin]

False son should drop a unique item if you kill him instead of what we have now because I don’t think going to false son is worth it, you are essentially missing a whole stage 4 to fight a overturned boss for 3-4 items depending on the big chest spawn.

[short iris]

I would've agreed like 4 hours ago but apparently if you kill him with the halcyon seed the aurelionite fragment he drops has a 60/40 red and yellow respectively

[wispy crypt]

Oh what

Theres actual item drop improvements if you take auri?

[frail merlin]

Let’s just ignore stage 4 has a guaranteed red

[short iris]

So it's like a giga mega shard, apparently there's a scrapped version of it that was the heart of false son which you purified with the halycoin seed which is why the achivment description is what it is

I mean, a 60/40 on a halcyonite shard is a guaranteed red as far as I'm concerned

[torn fossil]

funny false son auri interaction
tricorn works and will end up giving you an extra halcyonite seed

probably works in the other stage too actually

[short iris]

Is it better then a stage 4?probably not, but getting a way of a more common cherf merf and shatterspleen and some reds with guaranteed couldrons isn't that bad when looking at it again

[frail merlin]

Still in my opinion should be more rewarding for taking the risk and fighting false son which most ignore because of the difficulty

[short iris]

#theorycrafting message

Yeah I agree for sure tbh

Especially with how overtuned he is rn

And yet again, most likely, scrapped to time constraints (:

[frail merlin]

Gearbox, pretty please make the dlc better. I want to enjoy the game🥺

[short iris]

I know this is niche but a change I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wanna see is the leaderboards for prismatic trails that pc has, I've been wanting this for the past 5ish years???? I'm CONVINCED they didn't even bother making anything to due with player interaction and prismatic trails

I don't even need some reward like lunar coins for being in the top 10% of players or anything, the description literally just lies on console

[frail merlin]

Haven’t seen hoopoo nor gearbox mess around with prismatic trial since I started playing

I feel like prismatic trail could have some great improvements because speedrunning in this game has always felt a bit lacking

[fading bone]

I have a question. Is acrid supposed to take fall damage with his leap

[wispy crypt]

No that is a bug

[rose river]

Ror lore brainrot is hitting hard rn

[rose river]

Autism be dammed my guy can grill

[fierce juniper]

@frail merlin risk of rain 2 has gyro controls!

On the switch. Sorry, for some reason that didn’t send earlier

[fading bone]

Also, is there a bug with getting false son? I got auri and brought her to the false son, beat him, and didn’t get false son

[gleaming owl]

I finally beat eclipse 1..

[wispy crypt]

The unlock is kinda... well

It just doesnt feel like it sometimes

You gotta try again until it decides to work

[gleaming owl]

Ngl i got him by using drizzle command dual nail mul-t

Speedran it

Anyway beat eclipse 1 on Railgunner because i got a full void fields

[marble sail]

👽

[gleaming owl]

Reason? Beetle guards, stone golems, lemurians, blind vermin with 5 crit glasses, 5 lanterns, 3 unstable transmitters, 3 death marks and a nkahanas oppinion

Easiest void of my LIFE

The unstable transmitter DOES have a use... made me able to make my problems VANISH by using primary

Its only useful if its not on you.

Who knew?

[short iris]

Fun fact about lantern, it doesn't actually work on enemies lol

[gleaming owl]

LOL

[wispy crypt]

Oh thats cool

Free vields item then

[gleaming owl]

So they literally had only crit glasses as a threat

Free af void fields man.

[short iris]

"Free af void fields man."Raigen said, little did he know the 2 diabolical blind pests shot with both proccing the 5 len's makers glasses

[gleaming owl]

It was vermin. The rats. No pests thank GOD

[short iris]

Oh shit I misread

[gleaming owl]

I once had pests with armor plates...

[short iris]

Yeah that's actually free LOL

[gleaming owl]

I left immediately

[short iris]

Once had parents with tougher times and watches....

[gleaming owl]

Good god. Thanl god you can just run

[fading bone]

Also also is the arti syringe thing real

[short iris]

Honestly idk how to feel about the change because I thought it was really good to getting new players into arti but she DEFINITELY didn't need to and with the extremely little syringes you need for minimum cooldown it feels like it undermines cooldown items on arti

[fading bone]

I can’t even tell if it’s real or not

[short iris]

It is

[fading bone]

I feel like they should’ve kept it how it was

Arti was already overpowered

[short iris]

Ok well I wouldn't say overpowered but I agree

[fading bone]

You could’ve just used bandolier

[short iris]

I do think it's just a bug because it's tied to chefs primary though

[fading bone]

I don’t understand how these things happen. Also chef buff please

[lament cave]

They are working on chef buff

[noble furnace]

I am going to let you guys decide which eclipse survivor I do next because I am flying through eclipse on Seeker.

1️⃣=Chef

2️⃣ =False son

Btw, I play Falso son with the alt special.

[gleaming owl]

What if Commando had a passive where as long as his primary is firing he gains attack speed slowly but loses it all the moment he stops using it?

Meanwhile what if we trippled the aggro and attack range of moble turrets and made them always considered sprinting when moving?

[glossy citrus]

Why

[tawny olive]

guys i’ve been gone for a while, is console finally fixed ?

[gleaming owl]

Switch was never broken but xbone works now

[glossy citrus]

Kinda

[tawny olive]

i’m on ps5

[gleaming owl]

Ps is fine too

[noble furnace]

Because I don't like how the laser feels and playstyle even though I know it's the best ability, I prefer the 1000% laser.

[tawny olive]

good to hear 😩

[glossy citrus]

Whatever floats your boat I guess

It is a little jank

[gleaming owl]

Like how I prefer Railgunners ult 2 to ult 1

Ult 2 is more utility.

[noble furnace]

The thing is, laser can deal more damage but you want to use it with full charges of your secondary but you also want to use your secondary charges to increase damage taken to the enemy and it's weird to use for me especially the slow during the cast really throws me off and on top of that laser doesn't Regen all the charges of the secondary, it regents 1 per second and I know this because I have tested and seeing gameplay of the laser, with 2 you have like 25 ish stacks of the secondary and a laser that last 6-7 seconds so you only Regen 6-7 of the 25 charges of the secondary, meanwhile the alt special always Regen 30% doesn't matter how much growth you have.

[gleaming owl]

Am I weird that I want moble turrets to be good?

[kindred heron]

Honestly I find them better than default turrets

I know they aren't but they're so much fun

[lament cave]

META?

I agree mobile turrets are fun

[normal shadow]

they call me the false son the way I 🏳️‍⚧️

[kindred heron]

Heeeeeeeyyy

[lament cave]

Banger

[twin bloom]

Had the game just not spawn any lootables on stage one smh

[rose river]

DID A FUCKING VOID INFESTOR JUST INFEST ME????

WHY AM I PURPLE???????

Oh wait
I have wake of vults rig-

[normal shadow]

Do u have wake of vultures

[normal shadow]

LMAOOO

[rose river]

I may be stupid i forgot its technically a elite type

[normal shadow]

thank u pookie

[lament cave]

Instantly ends your run

[rose river]

Woah

Yeah false son is stupid good
Not my kinda playstyle plus lazer aiming is wonky if i jump or sprint

[gleaming owl]

Can we talk about how False Son has a 3.0 proc on full charge slam

Bro thinks he's Mithrix.

meanwhile Chef Primary is a 0.5 proc

What the frick... BUFF CHEF

[rose river]

Nerf chef hes to good!!

He can beat drizzle without command sac swarms devs please nerf!!!

[gleaming owl]

False Son is honestly the closest thing to a base game playable Mithrix and it's funny.

[frail shard]

What items are best for bandit?

[untold valley]

Is irradiant pearl still a 4% chance?

[noble furnace]

No, 20%

[noble furnace]

[noble furnace]

[short iris]

FYI the alt laser cannot crit and has sweet spot falloff, just so you know

[swift summit]

Call me crazy but Aegis might actually be good on Seeker

[dusky rivet]

The balance patch that's on it's way better be huge

[short iris]

Maybe it's just fixing every single bug reported and we're delaying it indefinitely

[short iris]

Opened a utility chest and it's knockback fin 😐

[runic chasm]

if fins proc didnt have a cooldown it could be a really good meme item

[warm depot]

"it's time to go to heaven, my child"

[lament cave]

Send the vermin to mithrix

[steel lion]

heaven? hah as if

wait fins proc has a cooldown on top of merely being a chance?

whoever “cooked” knockback fin is probably responsible for the age-old concept of poison

[short iris]

The cooldown is 5 seconds fyi

[steel lion]

poor knockback fin, triangular wheels are more useful

[fathom linden]

There are like several mods that buffs chef currently

BetterChefKiss
BetterChef
QoLElements

[wispy crypt]

He says in #ror2-console-discussion

To the person with the switch role

[frail merlin]

Ngl Those mods kinda buffs chef way to much but I guess he is still weaker than false son

[short iris]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-csi-miami-glasses-sunglasses-horatio-caine-gif-14033607

How pc players walk into console discussion and bring up mods that make the game better and leave forever

[median wraith]

Just use mods

[noble furnace]

So ... A prayer beads printer is the most broken thing..
https://youtu.be/SVmRiYZtKUU?si=HBmiQrTP8RNSBiuV

[short iris]

Yeah kinds you can just get infinite stats yea pretty much

[median wraith]

Not as strong as Knockback Fin unfortunately

[noble furnace]

Yep

[noble furnace]

Noted

[steel garnet]

Utility for the enemy

[gleaming owl]

Ngl if knockback fin even had the effect of dealing a burst of extra damage and knocking the enemy up so they don't move... That'd be fine, vs bosses it's extra damage, and smaller enemies it's like a stun but not... But nooooo...

Or at the least if it was high enough they took fall damage...

[lament cave]

Trampoline bullets

[short iris]

Geode spawns complete opposite end of cover and right as I get it he starts lasering it wtf does it want from me

Is there really a reason they had to randomize geode spawns for the fight

[wispy crypt]

Tbh its less the geodes and more the lack of cover options

The things I'd to to get an equipment that literally just spawns a short all in front of you

And no effigy does not count

[pale mountain]

That spawns everything in front of you?

[wispy crypt]

Fuck

Wall not all

[short iris]

Fortnite build mode in risk of rain

[wispy crypt]

We already have the fog with simu

Fortnut building would be too crazy

[grizzled carbon]

how well does the base game run on switch? i can't run it on my shitty laptop but i need my fix and it's on sale

[lament cave]

It runs fine for me

[grizzled carbon]

perfect thank you

[junior perch]

Hey Jessie The Railgunner, how many weeks has it been since Seekers Of The Storm released?

[lament cave]

This Friday will mark a month

Oh I get it lmao

I'm slow

[short iris]

First month anniversary patch....?

Chat is it cope

[final ice]

Sounds like they’re still reproducing and fixing things

#1279454778522341407 message

Based on this

Might be a bit

[median wraith]

Yeah

[meager hill]

kbm support when?

[short iris]

I don't check others bug reports but it seems like Preston is really active in them

My 20 bug reports arnt good enough for gearbox 💔

[meager hill]

Is potrolling worth it?

[short iris]

Yea

Bands are great

[meager hill]

nah, plus 40 mins on timer is not worth it

the pot was next to pressure plate

[short iris]

(will never pot roll for 40 minutes)

[final ice]

potrolling is not worth it tbh

I never have thought it was

[jovial crane]

🫃

[meager hill]

Why did they remove kbnm support on consoles?

[meager hill]

50

[short iris]

lol

They removed it because lol

Have you genuinely been rolling pots for 50 minutes?

[meager hill]

Then why is controller support on pc?

[short iris]

Because lol.

Unironically amazing question

If it's the same game version but delayed in patches from verification how come kbm just vanished

[meager hill]

thats more interessting

the pot was where the ping is

and i printed keys

[short iris]

I know this is a different game and studio but I can't imagine it's that far off of risk surely right? What's intresting to me is that if this is what having a unified code base is, how do console specific glitches happen???

[short iris]

Did you not try potrolling the other button???

[meager hill]

I tried

its harder

[short iris]

Welp happy to hear you're liking the new pot physics when tyring to do it uphill

[frail merlin]

What the hell was gearbox testing team doing

[meager hill]

when did we get new physics, i think i havent played that time?

[wispy crypt]

Nah pc got new physics

Our physics to be exact

[short iris]

Ok well we got it since sotv but pots weren't rollable because of it so we're expecting new physic pots rn

[wispy crypt]

I definitely shouldve just stayed in lower pm chucking bombs up

[meager hill]

soo thats what i was remembering

[frail merlin]

They are still rollable just very hard

[short iris]

3 days to test it can't blame them

[wispy crypt]

I can

[short iris]

Yeah it got added in sots

[wispy crypt]

They definitely shouldve tested out some of the values and scaling beforehand

Especially on the main attraction of the dlc

The dlc is all about fighting this guy after all

[short iris]

[wispy crypt]

Like I got murdered by the laser in seconds

[frail merlin]

3 days🤨 where did you get that source of information?

[wispy crypt]

I messed up the oob exploration and got ported back and literally didnt even have time to egg myself out

[short iris]

My ass but it's probably not that far off

[wispy crypt]

Im also calling this egg tunnelling now because its like im quantum tunnelling through the oob boundaries

[frail merlin]

Im leaning towards 0 days instead tbh.

[short iris]

But yeah I like the idea of having a significant lower skill floor to start rolling pots but the cealing reduced so dramatically it's depressing.

[wispy crypt]

I think this potrolling is better

Sure its harder but at least it feels god damn realistic

[short iris]

Like I don't think that now you can truly get good enough to roll pots up hills now consistently like you could

[frail merlin]

The pot roll were supposed be more beginner friendly but just ended up being syphius tier impossible

[wispy crypt]

Like youre actually pushing a heavy ass pot around

[raw wing]

instead of being possible but janky, its just always doomed uphill now

[wispy crypt]

Instead of... whatever old pc physics was

[frail merlin]

Like it’s really easy if the surface is downward or flat but if it’s slightly high ground it’s impossible.

[raw wing]

especially if you are artificer or mult lol gg

or well ive only see nthe arti issue but i assume mult is bad too (?)

[short iris]

I guess it's realistic but I think thats worse if it comes at the cost of the skill and ability. Like you can no longer truly learn port rolling or apply your skills at it or if there's any slope it's perma stuck

[frail merlin]

Seems like playing golf with railgunner is the only possibility now😔

[raw wing]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-workout-lift-weights-heavy-gif-7622083

[wispy crypt]

Well anyways

Got a good amount of clips out of this run

Gonna go through all of em rq

[raw wing]

realistically, loader would pick it up with one hand and place it down real ez

kind of their job isnt it

[frail merlin]

They should make it so the grapple will have a special interaction with the pots

[short iris]

It'd be awesome if like, they added maybe a new mechanic truly meant to unlock the gate with skill instead of luck

[raw wing]

if the pot had safer spaces, could alt m2 grab it

[wispy crypt]

Ohhh I see what oneshot me on treeborn

An alpha construct shot that hit me because of mp delay

Jesus christ client mp is ass

Only redeeming factor is my beloved egg tunnelling

[short iris]

Multiplayer post console rebuild is so ass because while it has significantly less bugs its more laggy and every single run is doomed to desync

[frail merlin]

In conclusion I’m never fighting false son or playing chef until the balance patch.

[short iris]

Real

[wispy crypt]

I JUST REALISED WE WERENT EVEN ON MONSOON

[short iris]

I've just been grinding out drizzle command sac for each character skin

[wispy crypt]

I COMPLETELY FORGOT THIS WAS JUST RAINSTORM

[frail merlin]

I thought splatoon had ass multiplayer until ror2 showed up with the same system but worse.

[wispy crypt]

ye it gets impossible to play as arti tbh

[short iris]

DUDE YOU KNOW WHATS CRAZY. SPLATOON MULTIPLAYER WAS SO GOOD COMPARED T MARIOMAKER

[wispy crypt]

All my shots are delayed by half a second its insane

[short iris]

What the FUCK happened during the Mario maker mp making

[wispy crypt]

Trueeee

Whenever I play with my friends the framerate is just abysmal

[frail merlin]

I don’t think it would harm to just improve multiplayer, like buying server is not the only option

[wispy crypt]

And everything goes like 20 times slower

[meager hill]

winning eclipse gives the skin

[frail merlin]

Imagining doing false son on e7 is already nightmare fuel

[wispy crypt]

Yeah Im not gonna do that until they fix that guy lmao

[short iris]

I myself don't know how it works but I don't think Its that easy but I really really wish it was...

[frail merlin]

I gotta see someone attempt false son pre loop e8

[wispy crypt]

It is unfortunate because pm is one of the most fun stages for me to egg tunnel in

[raw wing]

theres 🧀

[wispy crypt]

Like how you guys started the fight without me being able to use soups

And me using soups anyways because im built diff

[frail merlin]

I mean, it wasn’t so long ago splatoon improved their multiplayer system even more in the recent patch.

[wispy crypt]

OH ALSO

on stage 4 that crit printer ronny

[raw wing]

itemless too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0MgEjH8kz8

but ya 🧀

[wispy crypt]

I used it while furret was using the tp and the printer did not get locked

[short iris]

I KEEP seeing be like "they NEED to add an achievement for FS voidling and mithrix in the same run" and I'd agree because it's more to do but it sounds like ass I can't lie

[frail merlin]

I don’t accept cheese.

[raw wing]

ok, then load up the bands on the railgunner and oneshot each phase

[frail merlin]

Seeing the 100%er go insane over this(if it ever gets added) would be so funny

[raw wing]

or find repulsions on seeker

[frail merlin]

E8

[raw wing]

e8 has a minimum req for dmg

[short iris]

I'm the 100%er but i think Itd be fun because 100% chance it's a loop once or twice and done type thing

[raw wing]

if u find plates u take 0

[frail merlin]

Thought I still wouldn’t accept one shot or iframe cheese

[short iris]

The REAL thing that drives me as a 100%er is that I need to get the night variant logbooks ):<

[wispy crypt]

Ttue

[raw wing]

it just boils down to good rng but not super good rng then thats all

[wispy crypt]

Thats been bothering me too

The night and ambry logs

[raw wing]

bad runs arent beating false son without cheese the fight isnt built for that

unlike say mithrix pizza is always dodgable etc

[frail merlin]

I got them pretty early same with the enemy log book, like all in the first week

[wispy crypt]

I still lack the halcyonite log

[frail merlin]

That’s what a challenge is for, to do the near impossible and beat it.

[wispy crypt]

Its pretty annoying

[raw wing]

theres a difference between "challenge" and a challenge, where one "challenge" is just trying to get good items

[short iris]

Isn't it fucking crazy that FS boss dash will instantly teleport directly to the player no matter the height or distance between

[wispy crypt]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[raw wing]

you dont need to stoop so low to have your challenge difficulty vary wildly on rng

[wispy crypt]

I SHOULDVE TESTED IF HE WOULD DASH INTO HIS DEATH WHILE I WAS OOB

[frail merlin]

A challange is diverse to easy to very hard.

[raw wing]

theres plenty of near impossible challenges that are just always near impossible

[frail merlin]

Yep

[short iris]

FS is such a fundamentally flawed fight, not because of the individual concepts but because they add up into this disgusting Mish mash that doesn't work when mixed together

[raw wing]

not literally impossible one run and then literally free the next run

[frail merlin]

It’s like you are trying to convince everyone here to not challenge it when its straight up doesn’t matter

I’m not you, are not. then who is,

[raw wing]

what

[short iris]

Icl FS is a challange but a really really bad one...

[frail merlin]

A really unbalanced one

[short iris]

Yeag

[frail merlin]

I try beating him on e8 pre loop if he ever get nerfed

[short iris]

Goodluck soldier

[raw wing]

has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[frail merlin]

No one has but you are constantly trying to convince someone not to

[wispy crypt]

Obliterate yourself

I hate those... not quite sentences

[frail merlin]

I just left it as an idea for a challenge and then you go denying it???

[noble furnace]

Now that you guys are talking about the FS fight, I wonder if you can dodge the laser by being near him and run in circles around him?🤔

[wispy crypt]

No

Everything has been tried

[short iris]

I think ronny just wants to see E8 loopless cheesless FS and aevean is saying the fight is ass which I agree with

[wispy crypt]

That thing is just fucking glued to you

[frail merlin]

Gotta be moving at the speed of light for that to happen

[short iris]

No. It is 10000% insta lock on, if he kills an ally he instantly locks onto you the next frame

[raw wing]

im also saying the challenge would be ass and not require that much skill either, since a good rng run will still take false son's lunch money

[wispy crypt]

No

[noble furnace]

So in short, if god run false son fight balance.

[wispy crypt]

Back in a failed arti e2 attempt he tried lasering the corpse of my bg

So there is some time between kills where he doesnt lock on to a new thing

[raw wing]

i had a ridiculous false son run once where i just lasered his ass, use the laser to defeat the laser. it was e5 iirc but e8 wouldnt change much

[frail merlin]

I wasn’t denying good runs just runs that were so insanely good that he got one shotted the first frame. Just the average runs and not speedrunner records one. False son still has plenty of health to survive for a bit.

[raw wing]

straight up just killed them before their laser could kill me

he lacks special scaling / adaptive armor im pretty sure so he is pretty susceptible to item rng especially singleplayer

[frail merlin]

Thought those run would be pretty rare with only 3 stages of loot

[short iris]

Maybe its the same thing as titans where the death animation is longer? I swear I saw him kill my engi turret and insta lock on me but it'd also make sense if I was misremembering

[wispy crypt]

I mean turrets have a very fast death animation

They just kinda explode

A bg lies there for a while

[frail merlin]

He didn’t do that on me when I was playing engi

[short iris]

Yea and BG lies, so it just isnta locks onto the player when the entity actually stops existing

Every copy of risk is personalized I guess or something at this point

[frail merlin]

Gearbox giving our console their on unique bug

[raw wing]

tbh, i dont mind item check bosses thaaaat much if they can impact rest of run a good deal

[wispy crypt]

Im just

[raw wing]

for instance, fighting voidling end of eclipse, it can be fun to build for it

because they have some different item reqs

false son though just shows up s4 like ok ?

[wispy crypt]

Bewildered that the old blazing trails made their return in the shape of fs laser

[raw wing]

u dont really have much choices to make

[frail merlin]

I have 2 problems with false son

1. Way to overturned
2. Not so rewarding

[raw wing]

for instance some items like bens raincoat and blast shower are great on false son, etc etc

but u have 3 stages to craft a build for them vs 5 for voidling

[wispy crypt]

Braincoat did not remove lunar ruin for me last run

[short iris]

I don't think I'd mind FS if it was stage 5, just make it so shattered abodes is stage 2 and stage 1 of path of collosus

[frail merlin]

Just fight voidling stage 3

[raw wing]

cant 😦

[frail merlin]

Void fields

[raw wing]

eclipse

[frail merlin]

Ah

[wispy crypt]

Man the dlc is weird

[raw wing]

to some extent though it seems more "intended" to loop

ala night stages not appearing before looping

[wispy crypt]

Twisted elites keep you from looping and false son keeps you from doing the path

[frail merlin]

Voidling is a giant punching bag for god runs any other than that he is just a bad boss

[raw wing]

but also false son doesnt have special scaling, so they often get obliterated from loop dps

[wispy crypt]

Like the 2 main aspects of the dlc are just death traps

Loop variants and fs

Because of twisteds and the laser

[short iris]

Make dlc that focuses more on looping
Look inside
Elite that makes it impossible to loop with consistency/kills you instantly

[raw wing]

actually im not too sure on the special scaling part

i havent calced anything. its possibly just base hp not being that high

[wispy crypt]

Also how they do it

I basically have to beg my teammates to go deal with twisteds for me because I play arti

Everything I do has aoe

[raw wing]

gonna use this clip and calc

798000 hp

[short iris]

If it means anything some phase of false son at level 4 had 6.6k hp I think

[frail merlin]

We were definitely lacking in item in that run tho

[wispy crypt]

True

I dont even really get how that happened

You two fell off so much even though I had to do laundry throughout all of altar

[raw wing]

hmm nah they should have special scaling

[wispy crypt]

The items just were not it

[short iris]

The craziest, most absurd, mind boggling thing to me is that they bypassed MAXIMUM SAFER SPACES, twisted elites made me die in a run 17 times because they can hit you twice in the exact same frame and insta kill you

[frail merlin]

But having a boss that has less hp and more damage Is a neat idea but number 1 to much damage number 2 the attacks are near impossible to dodge/unfair.

[raw wing]

i think they just feel squishy because false son has half the hp of worship unit

itll be compounded more in multiplayer though, like its only single that hes kinda squishy and easier to overcome with stat check

multiplayer my experience if noone is like very strong, then laser can pick us off one by one

3-4 player havent tried 2

[wispy crypt]

Ye thats basically what happened to us in our run

First I got murdered trying to cleanse my lunar ruin

[frail merlin]

In multiplayer you can take false son agro if someone is in danger very easily

[wispy crypt]

Then ronny which you saw

[raw wing]

also idk feels like the geodes are janky af in multi

[short iris]

I honestly think false son could be 80% fine if they just made it so he doesn't move during the lase and geodes have specified spots nearish cover, done. That's fine, the fight has now gained full counterplay instead of 6 other aspects overlapping eachother and countering the counters to its own counters

[frail merlin]

I kinda had the agro the whole fight until like Wertus sacrifed himself to give me like 10 second

[wispy crypt]

I wish there was something in this game like the fs skill lock... but for enemies

Like just a way to cancel the laser

[raw wing]

well if it worked the same way fs skill lock worked, it wouldnt cancel the laser in progress

[short iris]

It'd be cool if maybe him trying to bash the pillar made him recoil and stun for a little or smth

BTW HE CAN SLAM DURING LASER AND KNOCKBACK YOU OUT OF COVER BTW

[wispy crypt]

I did not sacrifice myself I just went too close to the arena and hit a warp boundary and got sent back right as the laser started

Like if I had the time I wouldve returned back to below the arena

[frail merlin]

A sacrifice in my eye

[wispy crypt]

Which honestly

I think im just gonna do every run from now on

Egging below the arena even without being able to stay down there is just the safest way to avoid the laser

[frail merlin]

I remember specifically seeing him charge the laser when you were in the air and just thinking “yep Wertus is a goner”.

[wispy crypt]

The lunar ruin was annoying me

Wanted to get to a geode

[short iris]

I only just noticed today that the boss also applies lunar ruin to you, I got hit by the lunar shotgun and got 4 lunar ruin :/

[wispy crypt]

I mean it makes sense

[short iris]

Yeah it does

[wispy crypt]

Thats the boss version of his secondary which also applies that

[frail merlin]

Didn’t notice it but in that clip (about when I died) aurelinite was definitely aiming at false son which confirm my suspicions that aurelinite is definitely an ally.

[wispy crypt]

No she was aiming at furret there

[frail merlin]

Oh nvm didn’t notice the name tag

[wispy crypt]

But yeah what do we learn from this

Never try the fs unlock in multiplayer

[short iris]

Had a guy called randy like my post about risk of rain and I thought it was a parody account of randy pitchford but I clicked on the profile and it was just all reposts of gay porn 😭

[frail merlin]

Lunar ruin in my opinion doesn’t feel like an unfair or bad thing to the boss fight itself it kinda add a bit uniqueness compared to the other 2.

[wispy crypt]

Ye I think its almost fine

I just wish it ran out like it does for the character

[frail merlin]

What the hell

[short iris]

True, it'd definitely be fine but it definitely stacks up the annoyance when everything else already kinda stinks

[sterile cradle]

First boss to use his brain

[short iris]

Can we give FS a lobotomy

I dont want this fucker to use his brain if it means this is how he functions

[frail merlin]

He uses his dash on phase 2&3 when his full brain is unlocked

[wispy crypt]

Ronny

[frail merlin]

?

[wispy crypt]

We gotta do another run like that so I can see if I can get fs to dash off the map into thr abyss

When trying to dash to me when im oob if he can even do that

[frail merlin]

Straight up think that will not work

[short iris]

You'd probably have to keep aggro

[wispy crypt]

We gotta outbullshit the bullshitter

[short iris]

But you could probably try floating a little bit away and see

Shitting competition

[frail merlin]

False son has his own invisible barrier around the map. Meaning you have to essentially clip him out of the stage.

[wispy crypt]

Unfair

[short iris]

How the hell did you even find that out

[frail merlin]

I watched the chess video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0MgEjH8kz8

[short iris]

Oh.

[wispy crypt]

Ah yeah thats dated

[frail merlin]

Also cabbage has very based for doing a speedrun and item less run using the glitches on the first week.

[wispy crypt]

Ye

Uses the infini laser

[frail merlin]

The cheese maybe still work tho

[wispy crypt]

Even if it doesnt

Youre just one awful non host multiplayer experience + fuel cell + egg away to achieve even more cheese

[frail merlin]

[wispy crypt]

But it is just good qol

To be able to do soups mid fight

Or stay in the bazaar when someone angers the newt

[short iris]

............ Do yall think the boss also has a 3.0 proc co on the slam....?

[wispy crypt]

Nah

We are not gonna go down that rabbit hole

But like with how the laser is rn

I might actually just start using effigy PURELY to have small walls around the map to hide behind

Because its just insane how little cover there is from something this dangerous

[short iris]

How much do you wanna bet it won't even block it

[wispy crypt]

Dont even

Ive been wondering if its phantom or just in general doesnt block it

But I do not want that to be the reality I live in

Portable phantom collision

[frail merlin]

The laser isn’t even straight it’s just tweaking around so hard is just adding toppings to the unbalances

Maybe shield bubble isn’t that bad

[wispy crypt]

If only he didnt move so much

[frail merlin]

Casually moves up on your cover

[noble furnace]

I thought about a solution against FS laser, just get 100 RAP.

[frail merlin]

Disputed should do another video but instead of surviving the void he should tank the laser.

[wispy crypt]

I would hide behind those solid platforms oob next to the provi statue but those are also phantom

And therefore not an option

Im just not a fan of fs being a glass cannon contest

Whoever gets to hit the other one hard first wins

I shouldve taken the 2 shaped glass in the bazaar when I had the chance

And the other ones that appeared in later bazaars

[raw wing]

i could test it if u want lol

im curious too actually ima try

[short iris]

Sure yeah

More info for the wiki I guess

[raw wing]

1.0

man, i stole my own abilities

its rough out here

[wispy crypt]

[raw wing]

0.5 coeff on needles, 0.15 on laser

[short iris]

Oh my god I COMPLETELY forgot all enemies are playable that scared the shit out of me

What's the cooldown on the laser?

[wispy crypt]

That laser doesnt deserve a proc coefficient

[short iris]

It's kinda hilarious how quickly wertus' thoughts on the laser converted

[wispy crypt]

No I always knew that my encounters with it werent legitimate

As in playing fs using command because my teammates wanted it

Aka being tanky as shit

[short iris]

Fair i guess or whatever,,,,,

[wispy crypt]

But that it would be THIS absurd

[wispy crypt]

WHAT THE FUCK

THATS ILLEGAL

[raw wing]

titans are the same though arent they ?

[wispy crypt]

fs turned the auto aim slider to 10 ||billion||

[raw wing]

they can shoot behind themselves i thought once they lock on

[short iris]

Ok notes are taken you have 11 seconds before the nuke drops again

[raw wing]

since cd starst after it fires

wont e7 false son have 1-2 seconds of downtime before they can charge up again

[short iris]

Titan lasers follow the player, FS completely locks on even if the player is moving In any way

[twin bloom]

Any interesting strategies for farming lunar coins I might not know about?

About to just do a few loader rush runs and figured I’d ask

[wispy crypt]

Like the fs laser should just copy titan laser behaviour

[short iris]

Idk how viable this is but drizzle artifact loader into stage 1* voidling could be Intresting

[wispy crypt]

Damage wouldnt even matter all that much because you could actually fucking dodge it then

Assuming his other attacks dont hit you

Why can he even attack while lasering

[raw wing]

yep

[wispy crypt]

That makes even less sense than anything else

[raw wing]

changed team to enemy to get their buffs and ya

[short iris]

5 stacks of lunar ruin from 1 attack into bash equievelnt of 50 knockback fins and laser that locks on no matter what while you're in mid air

So going to false son on eclipse is permamently stuck behind pillars from what I'm understanding

[raw wing]

mfw no jump height : (

u can kinda glide tho

with hopoos

[short iris]

Uhhh aevean one question

[raw wing]

cant be done no

the reason is because the director only has 400 credits

thats why the elite wyrms dont spawn on commencement

[short iris]

Since the dash can instantly dash to the player regardless of distance or height of the player as long as it's in bounds, how does it work when you play him? Is it like a royal capacitator??

[raw wing]

well when i tried it with no players, it just kinda made me stuck and i had to respawn

ill add a player team ai

lol

uhh still doesnt work ill try being on meridian

still doesnt work idk

[short iris]

Welp semantics i supposeth

[raw wing]

oh, even on enemy team

i still stole my own abilities : (

[fierce juniper]

Hmmm this is interesting… I did some testing. False son on drizzle feels “too easy”. Even if it is drizzle. However, false son on rainstorm feels like how it should on monsoon for he number of items you have. Mithrix is far easier than false son is on rainstorm… I wonder if something is up with that…

And monsoon he’s just a beast lol

[hot hill]

Not sure this is the right channel for that

[glossy citrus]

I find 2 things wrong with this fit

I mean, what was he thinking with a yellow tie? And those shoes are not working

Jk

[dreamy drift]

Console eclipse run is not saving is there any fixes?

[torn fossil]

the cooler daniel

[kindred heron]

I have yet to see Viscous Falls in one of my runs yet but man it looks absolutely gorgeous

[twin bloom]

Is scaling of guilded enemies messed up? Playing with friends and 1m health for like stage 4 monsoon is way too much with only one mountain shrine

[rocky drift]

Guys is it normal for gilded coast to not spawn enemies

No beacons spawned either.....

We cooked

[jaunty osprey]

A stage 2 elder lemurian on the reformed altar is definitely wierd right?

[lament cave]

It is indeed gorgeous

[untold valley]

Is it a loop exclusive stage?

[noble furnace]

Holy Jesus, family event of larvas is the most 😴 and boring thing to get.

[untold valley]

I’ve only seen it on stage 6

[noble furnace]

Yes, night/ alternative time mode stages only happens after loop.

[untold valley]

I wish my switch could handle looping more than once😪

How many night/alt stages are there? The falls one is so beautiful I wish every stage had something like that

[noble furnace]

I Believe all the new ones, I may be wrong in some but in general all the new stages that came with the devotion update and SotS update has alt time mode after loop.

[untold valley]

Dang that’s cool

[lament cave]

3

That I know of

[trail jewel]

Falls, shattered abodes, and the leafy one

[short iris]

Yes gilded elites are implemented wrong and spawn too much in addition of currently broken elite rates

[twin bloom]

More meant that their health/ damage seems to be far too much

[short iris]

Unsure about that but keep in mind that feeding them gold increases their defense to some extent

[dusky rivet]

The damage and health stat is that of a tier 2 elite

I think it was 7x hp and on damage im a bit unsure, maybe around 3x-5x?

[steel lion]

it seemed to me like feeding them gold reduced their resilience although i may or may not have had a scorpion that run

i mean in my head it makes sense, sacrifice gold for a faster kill

then again lots makes sense in my head so what do i know

[steel lion]

im gonna feed him to the olive garden kitchen

[hot hill]

What

[short iris]

I just realized

I had a dream today, it was that ion surge couldn't give you more height in total. You tried to skip pillars but the peak of your height would be the same

[dusky rivet]

I dont thinking giving gearbox any suggestion is a good idea

[elder trench]

Please do not harshly limit movement again like with acrid

[hidden dragon]

That reminds me, is Acrid taking fall damage from pounce still a thing?

[warped raptor]

that sounds right cus i had wake of vultures and i had the aspect and i was getting loads of dosh and i was taking less and less damage

[short iris]

Yeah it got added in the newest console wptch

[hidden dragon]

On accident right?

[short iris]

Yea

[hidden dragon]

Good, I still don’t know how they pulled that off and haven’t fixed it yet though

[lament cave]

Because they're still bug fixing

[pale mountain]

Nope all survivors will be as shit as chef soon

[median wraith]

The plan is proceeding according to expectations, sir.

[chilly viper]

Did they add crossplay to ps4

[wispy crypt]

No

Actually idk if theres crossplay between ps4 and ps5

But there most certainly isnt any other form of crossplay

[chilly viper]

What about split screen

[wispy crypt]

Only exists on new gen

[hot hill]

Splitscreen is on ps5 versiom

Can confirm

[chilly viper]

Ill kill gearbox

[hot hill]

What

[wispy crypt]

The ps4 is likely not strong enough to support split screen lmao

[chilly viper]

It is dude

My 10 year old pc can handle split screen mod

[noble furnace]

There is cross play between PS4 and PS5, same as Xbox one and Xbox series.

[wispy crypt]

Good to know

[noble furnace]

And how old is PS4?

[hot hill]

I think it's just about 10 years now

[noble furnace]

And the risk of rain 2 is a heavy on effects game especially on late game runs which normally 90%~ of the players reach that point of late game and having effects all over the place so it's obvious that the split screen is only available on the new gen.

[lament cave]

Almost 11 years old

[frail merlin]

It’s so goddam over for me, no mountain shrine.

[wispy crypt]

Shouldve taken diablo

[frail merlin]

Nuh uh, I rather don’t have my entire run be relied on a single skill.

[short iris]

Diablo would've solved that

[frail merlin]

Never denied it just don’t like using it.

[short iris]

If you had Diablo you would win the lottery