#ror2-console-discussion
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my guess is 0.2-0.5
That's kinda big
compared to anything else thats a terrible number
0.2 seems most likely and even with the laser isnt that big
💀💀💀
God it would be SO funny if the laser had the same proc co as fucking chef cleaver omfg
They turned my favorite ror1 character into doodoo...
dude chill
Chef isnt that bad
dont forget rex still exists
Even for those who enjoy him im sure its easy to tell hes always going to be the worst survivor in the game
0.45
Chief damage fall of his harder than any elder lemerian
False son laser is 0.05 less proc co then chef cleavers omg 😭😭😭😭
They were straight up not cooking with chief
No
And not a single interactable spawned on shattered abode
The bug testing they do is phenomenal
What stage is shattered abode?
new stage 1
Did you have artifact of sacrifice on?
Of course not
Yeah that happens
is local play available on ps4
Only command, delusion and devotion
No couch co op does not exist on the ps4
horseshit
Only PS5/xbox next gen
Okay, if it happens again take a clip or screenshot and send it to #ror2-bug-reports-console , okay?
I've only had a single time on Shattered Abode where I had more than two or three chests
Because so far for me I have not gotten that bug of no interactables.
I find that shattered abode has more items than the other stage one maps
is this something you tested it can be easy to believe such a thing because abodes is more open and visible so it might give the appearance of being more populated
It might be on par with siphoned forest
Yep, around that, it's kind of sad that titanic forest, my fav stage 1, is the worst of all stages 1.
In terms of loot.
I found a weird glitch last night
Where a large chest spawned while I had artifact of sacrifice
It was on the shaddered abode map or whatever with the crater
Is that supposed to spawn in a egg area or was it just a bug?
Pre-placed chest can still spawn in sacrifice, like legendary chest on stage 4, the 4 small chests on the aurelyonite stage, etc,.so that chest may be a pre-placed one.
Oh well I know that but I don't know if it was a pre placed chest
There's 4 small chest? I thought there was only 2
There are 4.
There is one on each ring side that are easy to see and two more in the water of the side that there are trees and fall down gold shrines.
Hey so all my DLC related progress is gone???
I wish we had cross play
Where is that egg area?
I think very back of the map
chat the save-wipe bug was patched on Xbox, right?
I just got the aspect item dupe bug
Was unable to sprint bc I walked over an energy drink and was flying off the map
Also I apparently did 353 million damage so that might fuck up my damage dealt stats
lol apparently only old aspects are broken rn. The new ones (gilded and twisted) work as intended
Huntress is my 8th picked survivor but apparently 71% of my damage dealt is as her??
I never play huntress lol I always play captain, loader, acrid or railgunner
Idk what's happened there
Uhh yall ive went 10 runs without a halcyon shrine spawning, do i just have the worst luck of all time or am i missing something?
do you have sots enabled
Hey everyone how do you unlock the new skins?
Beat the false son as the respective character
Any difficulty?
Yes
Oh wow that's cool
Awesome profile picture
As a resident Captain main since 2021.... I really love False Son. They absolutely COOKED with his Growth/Lunar Spike mechanic.
I still don’t understand Lunar spikes after you have more than 4
Dude
I had a god run
Go to fight false son
AND HIS STUPID LASER LASERS ME AND THERE WAS 2 OF THEM
Fuck it I'm running command now
Don't run swarms and fight a strong boss
im not hte only one whos game isnt loading
I did not think he was gonna be THAT strong
HE'S A NEW ENDING BOSS
His laser was like spaghetti noodle the first time now it's a fucking death beam
HE WAS NOT THAT STRONG FIRST TIME I FOUGHT 2 OF THEM
NOW HE HAS THE POWER OF THE SUN????
WHEN THE FUCK DID THAT HAPPEN?
You spent tooo long getting to him
It was a 30 minute run what the fuck
Idk
No clue
We're not having that issue

the false sun
yeah his laser is way too strong
I'M SO HAPPY AHAAAAAAAHAHAH
His laser scary
It's like the pizza cutter in the tier of damage
pizza cutter but worse cause if he even sees you or more then like 3 seconds you die and there is barely any spots to hide
plus he can just knock you back with an attack through the wall then boom dead
Ima be so real idk the hype abt pizza attack
Happened to me.
It doesnt feel that hard to dodge honestly
its not if you know what your doing
we are just comparing one of mithrix's strongest attacks to false sons
imagine continuous damage but it ticks very very fast so even just 1-2 seconds of line of sight he can almost/just straight up kill you
i was playing on drizzle and i looped a bunch to get super strong items and he still was melting my health in seconds
The best way to avoid it is to always be in range of cover and to have your movement ability ready
oh i know but sometimes when i lose my abilities then he starts knocking me back it fucks me up
Also from what I experienced in my 15 times of fighting him on monsoon
Most fights he won't even use it
bro hates me then cause he used that on almost all fights i had with him its also the only move he has killed me with
i probably just need more practice
I rarely use command or whatever, so I never one shot him
Also if you are above him he just won't use it
He tries to melee airborne enemies for whatever reason
(if he starts it up and you go into the air it will still get you)
He does not know how to deal with empathy cores
His ass trying to slam the flying probe
hes tryna swat at them hes trying his best
He has caveman mentality and that's why I love him
Throw rocks and unga that bunga
Also white skin stare of death
OMG I LOVE FALSE SON SO MUCH
RAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH DO WORTH IT
I don't know what people mean by he feels clunky he feels good to play
they mean his animations
People have been saying he feels modded in a bad way
You're one of us now.
You've tasted the brew gearbox cooked with him and you're addicted.
Oh I think they look good maybe I just don't care but he looks and feels good
My phone has been bugging all day
Jesus Christ
They say his animations are unfinished
What they mean is that his animations look a bit choppy above 60fps
Eh I think they look good
Only thing I don't like about him
His swing could be a bit bigger or more horizontal
Yeah
He's fine but the one complaint I have is that the more attack speed you have the further out his swing affect goes even though the hitbox isn't tied to it
I hope when they're done patching they give the three characters all of their alt abilities
Yeah
I think a alt primary would be good maybe not but I like his kit
I wish I could have his role show but rex takes place and I would have to remove all my roles
I ain't doing all that
i do agree but i can see some animations like his utility are a little off
I guess idk I like it and maybe I'm just not seeing the clunkiness but whatever
I like him seems cool overall sigma
i also love him he doesnt feel weak compared to seeker and chef
You know what actually I'm sorry rex and everyone else false son is the new goat
like seeker and chef are strong but thats if you use like all their abilities at the same time but false son just does a ton of damage
I think seeker is good at least she felt and did good dps in my opinion
Chef sucks I am not touching that character ever
oh she does but false son feels like void fiend levels of strong
like what do you mean the more health he gets the more secondary uses he has which also give you speed and health regen for using them
I know bro it's so fucking good
Bro is the goat
I'm sorry rex bandit void fiend and captain you have all been replaced.
also he can actually make stone flux (the lunar item) good and same with the bison steak
also wait how do you remove roles
Anyone know what happens if you enable the artifact of rebirth? Does everyone get each item or each player only gets theirs
Idk
Click on them again
thanks
Np
false son gang
Let's go bro
People get their own items
If you put in rejuv in your own run
And they put brilliant in their run
You both get your own
But if you both play the same run and one person puts in empathy cores both of you get them next run
Nice
HE'S ONE OF MY FAVES
By the way, did yall know that chronic expansion works with forgive me please and stacks like crazy?
Just had a false son run where i got 90 stacks of it and my laser was doing 2k per tick with crits
Yep
Ima be so real i forgot what forgive me please does
i think its like on hit affects or on death affects continously pop off the doll when you throw it out
Guys we can all agree pop goes the weasel is peak right?
You throw down a doll that activates on kill effects back to back
Good with gas, knives, bandolier, deskplant, and will o' the wisp
Wait so that person said with chronic expansion
You just get infinite damage scaling lol
Thats actually fucking hilarious 
Soul bound also works with fmp giving infinite fmp uses
So if you get those two and chronic expansion + gesture its just actually infinite damage scaling lmfaoaoaoaooa
That sounds so god damn funny
Reached 12K damage stat with this
Caggers were cleaning up fast
But
You can only have a max of three FMPs at once
Cringe
I just realized
FMP is now even more broken with false son
Because now getting infusion with it is even more broken
Yup
gesture of the drowned plus fmp plus infusion
I reached 8k with infusions, stone flux, and FMP
good night
Goodnight guys
Btw
Brilliant behemoth plus laser turns you into a placidusax/midir cosplay
Or shin Godzilla if you like that stuff
i hate this bruh im just tryna post a gif
I wish I could post a midir gif rn
Deadass? Didn't think about Behemoth
You never think about it until you get it
I didn't think about it on FS until I got it
not with the glazen ring again
Hey anyone got a solo build for false son on monsune
I just beat the false son
(Totally didn’t cheese with pocket imdb, a couple disposable missilery launcher buffs, and stacking debuffs)
thats not cheesing your just playing the game
I think almost any tactic is valid, if he can just casually walk down the majority of the cast
Are there any news regarding bug fixes and/or patches?
Just that they're planning to fix the major stuff
Like a third of these bug they mention nobody really cared about #announcements message
Most builds work with him

Isn't there a duplication glitch in ror2
What happened to being able to send images here, what the hell did you lot do???
Anyway got the item dupe glitch and got 3776 ukuleles
“GEARBOX FIX THIS GAME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS” incident
And to follow that up the overwatch pron incident
I’m sorry huh?
I wasn’t here for that
I was 
It was that hamster
Oh god it was worse then roadhog
Understandable
Sentient meathook
NO
Should i send the gif
You can’t send gifs either

FUCK
Blame the Kratos gif
Hold ice aspect
Hold interact on item
Win
Guys does anyone know anything about a "Paragon 7" in risk of rain 2 I know it probably doesn't exist but I had a weird dream where some shit happened and the game rebooted but like it had dialogue between 2 people there was a risk of rain joke but then one of the guys mentioned paragon 7
I know it's just a dream but you know would be funny if that existed
What the fuck is paragon 7
That was a dark time for us RoR2 console players
Something about Rex tentacles happened too. No idea what that was about 👀
Yeah you know what pretend I never asked
THAT WAS YOU
Idk what you're talking about
I avoided this place for one day and that shit happened
I mean would you wanna see someone talking about Rex tentacles?
They slandered my goat into a freak plant
What
You heard me
The only fun I’m having with false son at this point is the laser bug, they should like not patch it
Yo I got that baby face feeling rn. I feel like a freshly spat out engineer main
That might be due to shaving and good music tho. Cuz I barely ever play engi
Make it unlimited but he stands still
Melee false son is hilarious too
It’s either full laser or full melee there’s no in between
Chief feels more melee than false son
Chef*

Lolllll But seriously tho I really do feel like there’s no in between with false son
It’s either you use his needles and go laser or you don’t and build into armour and attack speed
Nah laser out damage melee by a lot and has more survivability
I don’t see any denying that you can’t do melee laser build yet
Like the default laser?
And and dps output only matters if your doing a really fast run and don’t have time to pick up literally every item in the game
Which aren’t my fav kinda runs personally
I’m a full loot enjoyer but that doesn’t mean you run don’t need damage
Yeah the default laser of course you can do melee with the alt it’s a instant “boop”
Didn’t say that. I said fast runs didn’t get as many damage items as long runs
Because base damage output matters less when your doing a really long run because you turn into god anyway
Coming from a previous Merc main who doesn’t use slicing winds
The laser can do some crazy proc which means is able to use proc item which are mainly damage item way better than melee
True but same thing can be said about commando over any other given character
Because he fires really fast and has a high proc co eff compared to his fire rate
The laser has a proc of 0,45 I think and the hit it does per second is way higher than any other survivor. So I say the laser is comparable or even better in commando in terms of of proc
Like if the laser bug didn’t exist I think melee would have a chance but at the current state of the game the laser is just so broken especially with that infinite range
Wth are you people talking about
Ror2
Laser vs Melee False Son
Im a hyperbeam enjoyer personally
But the slam is fun
Honestly I use melee and laser I just mostly forget to use the laser
And I love being able to spam charged slam
The burst laser tho seems
Ok... It's not something I would use but it doesn't seem useless
Mood. When it comes to me it’s full melee son where I don’t use the laser or Hehe funny inf laser
Melee FS > Laser FS
I only use Laser for far away Greater Wisps/Brass Contraptions/Vagrants
Mood melee is so much more fun but I’m biased since literally every one of my fav survivors is a melee survivor currently
Loader bonk is good but also loud and in need of a buff because false sons does 500% less damage with no cooldown
Fs grounded slam also has a proc coefficient of 3
Damn really?
The lasers proc coefficient is kinda bonkers too though
Haven’t done proc set ups with it too much yet
0.45 for how often it ticks is crazy
There’s a good argument for both honestly
I also LOVE using Wax Quail with aerial slam even if it has lower proc, the feeling of absolutely dunking on an enemy is unmatched
Totally haven’t shouted Leeroy while doing this 

Only reason melee fs has argument against laser fs rn is because it’s so GODDAMN satisfying
Like don’t get me started on when you hit a wisp with it
Laser for boss DPS and range, Bonk for everything else
Yeah I agree
I use the later if there is a lot of enemies and yeah for far away ones
Since it's peirce is fucking crazy and range is crazy
But melee and slamming is a lot more fun
It doesnt pierce though
The Scorched Acres Greater Wisp when False Son has 30 Crowbars, both Bands, and is running at it at full speed
Every time I laser a blind pest a little bit of ptsd from my railgunner runs goes away
Wait which laser have we all been talking about now
It does?
Oh the laser laser not the burst
Yeah laser of the father doesnt pierce

Uh yeah it does?
It literally doesnt lmao
The fuck?
Burst pierces, Laser of the Father doesn't
Never said it pierced and never did
What are you talking about it pierces for me
I have used it to pierce multiple enemies
Record yourself piercing with laser of the father
Also laser burst doesnt pierce either because of bugs afaik
Wait maybe it only pierces small enemies
It doesnt pierce at all
Because it pierces lemurians for me
Are you sure youre not just killing them quickly?
Idk about bigger enemies
I think I've had it pierce before but it's at least inconsistent for sure
Yeah I'm sure I've lined up the enemies before
Really? It's all the time for me
Maybe there's a bug where it doesn't pierce
Thats... what I just said
Idk but I've had it pierce for sure
I mean laser laser not the burst
Bunch formal merc mains arguing like old friends lmao
Either I'm tweaking or you guys are geeking
Heh it happens
What about you have you seen laser peirce?
Merc mains wanna murder everyone except other merc mains
I've never mained Merc 
Because then like ain't no way I have a permanent bug where it pierces
I went from Huntress to Viend to FS/Seeker
Honestly unsure cuz father laser has pierced for me but it’s not consistent
You should it's fun
I prefer Loader because I don't have Slicing Winds
HELL NAH LET ME KEEP IT
And you guys are sure that it PIERCED for you and didnt just hit enemies in the back because of its habits of twitching a bit
Oh fair
It twitches???? MOTHERFUCKER IT FIRES IN A STRAIGHT LINE?
Hell nah evicerate is fire homie
BRO WHAT????
try running with it
That's your problem
Skill issue
You are running with your laser
Bruh

Why run with laser
WHY WOULD YOU RUN WITH LASER
This guy is somehow playing on a different timeline
It's cool yes but like
Who me?
I swear it still hits in a straight line even though visually it moves but maybe I'm schizo
Oh sorry mb I should just tank the 30 overloading jellyfish coming at me
Slicing winds is fun sure but eviscerate is like 200% better 75% of the time because it keeps you alive
Yeah, who else has a straight piercing laser
BONK THEM AWAY????
BRO ARE YOU DUMB YOU CANT DO THAT WHILE LASERING
Fair enough I guess but like ain't no way because mine fires mostly straight
Hey hey chill these guys are laser mains not bonk mains
They have not the same mindset of us
It’s like walking with huntress
DON'T CHARGE UP YOUR LASER WHEN ENEMIES ARE CLOSING IN ON YOU
Fair enough I guess
Also mood
im not talking about charging im talking about firing
Cancel Laser half a second into using it 
You still have to charge it
How does that matter
Brother how do you not just shoot them with it if your already firing
Because then it's gonna last like 1 second
You can sprint on both shooting and charging
Dont need to if I simply sprint away
More damage faster killing but also also because it last longer
Eh my opinion but I prefer a dead enemy over a living one that I run from
Incorrect, charging only increases damage. Time is the same no matter what (if the game is telling the truth)
Thats not what charging does to the laser
Oh really? Well then either way charging still increases damage
Is it that hard to read skill descriptions?
I
Mean people are allowed to be wrong…. right?
Is it hard to hit the enemies away?
When they are ACTIVELY RUNNING TOWARDS YOUR CLUB
Awesome one second laser
#ror2-discussion message
THAT YOU CANT USE WHILE LASERING
Sounds sigma
Just cancel laser it’ll come back
THEN MAYBE DON'T FUCKING LASER WHEN YOU SEE ENEMIES COMING TOWARDS YOU!
Or I could just walk a few steps and keep lasering whatever I want to laser
It’s not like your laser disappears for the rest of the stage
OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT AS WELL SPREAD YOUR ASS CHEEKS FOR THE ENEMIES
Why not
Like walking still exists
BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST GOING TO RAPE YOU BECAUSE YOU AREN'T FIRING STRAIGHT
Its slower yes but its not like I cant dodge enemies anymore
Teleport
Or his dash whatever
I mean your complaining of not having the ability to deal with close range enemies while lasering and we suggest a solution and you go “but I wanna laser”
Just cause he has inf laser doesn’t mean he only has inf laser
can just dash if they get too close to cancel Laser.... then embrace the bonk lifestyle
Im not complaining about that im just saying that its not possible while lasering
Then don't laser
Yea we just saying cancel laser and deal with enemies. Then laser
Don't laser and run for the matter
If the situation gets REALLY bad I will cancel the laser but if its just some lesser enemies that I can outrun then WHY WOULD I CANCEL THE LASER
Didn’t he mention several time to just back away and continue lasering what you all problems to his solution
I literally don't even know what the argument is about anymore lmao I'm lost
Because he was talking about getting raped by jellyfish with laser which is why he was running away and lasering causing him to not shoot straight
So we're giving him like the best solution to that at this point but he just ain't listening
You said to simply knock them away????? I was never complaining about beinf unable to hit enemies while lasering
The visual and the hitbox of the laser is completely different the laser can be completely off and the attack will hit anyways
Im not complaining about anything other than your shitass logic
So I'm not schizo thank goodness
Then what the fuck does this mean?
Also this is a mood
Wait wrong message MB
We actually started talking about it because of this
Yeah because you reacted unreasonably hostile to the idea of moving while lasering
Mhm, pretty sure everyone else besides you thinks that the default laser does not pierce
Honestly tho when you play a melee character you have to use their entire kit to deal with most types of enemies because in cause you haven’t noticed every single melee character has a way to get away, a way to deal long ranged damage, and a way to deal with a large amount of targets at the same time
Except Merc he just goes YEET
And Seeker with Alt just afks and becomes immortal due to infinite barrier
Merc does funny dashes with funny combo and enemies dies
Sure maybe it was a lil hostile but then you mentioned the jellyfish thing which just did not make me happy because I was confused why you would laser and run instead of just hitting them away
Yes and when I want to laser a boss from decently far away im just gonna dodge the lesser enemies near me by walking a bit so I dont cancel the laser early
Eh seeker is more ranged in my opinion just because she fires fists doesn’t make her a melee character
I can not have like the only holy Grail of risk of rain 2 where my laser peirces
You know. Because she fired them
Sadly there short ranged
Seeker isn't ranged she is morb 
In the context of like stage 2 because by the end of the run I usually have enough defense to not worry about the lessers anymore
Seeker is technically ranged but she's melee adjacent at least
They go fairly far
Like it's not like bullet type far but it also isn't like melee type short
Yeah fair but they go outside of every single melee characters melee range
Not across half the stage but enough to still hit most flyinf enemies from their preferred distance
I'd say a good distance of far
Seeker orb combined with the utility is a blast instead of doing the below average range build
Seeker morbs is awesome
I wish it was half the stage because sometimes those flying boogers are just outa reach
Walk to them
Or fly
Exactly
No, use Sojourn and kamikaze them (the only correct choice)
Maybe I just like projectiles that fly across the map
Although I will admit I think the third fist should explode and peirce instead of the little fist
But it makes sense
Would probably be more broken
If the first two fists didn't pierce they would be literally useless
The third hit has a proc coefficient of 0.75 btw
Thankfully we got behemoth to make it like that
Damn that doesn't sound too bad
It is pretty bad
Less than 1 proc because AoE damage 
Well it's not horrible like someone cough chef cough
Gearbox just doesn’t understand the game
Yeah they just kinda threw proc coefficients out there
I hate chef so much dawg
Praying to God that Chef acquires fixes and buffs
I tried to play him to test abilities
I ain't even wanna touch that character
I'd rather play huntress
I want to love Chef so bad but I simply cannot
Nobody can love chef
Forcing chef who has no melee capabilities to be melee to be able to deal slightly above average damage
Nah ror1 chief is peak
Miner solos bro I'm sorry
I don't see the hype around chef in ror1
Literally if he threw all three Cleavers in a straight line he'd be infinitely better in close range
He was not that goated
Least bias ror player
Literally if he could throw them like in ror1 he'd be better
HE ISN'T miner is better than him by a longshot
All three Cleavers at once with each having their own proc chance would also make the 0.6 make more sense
And enforcer
Maybe they just rework the character in general
Miner and enforcer are prob my least fav characters in rorr tbh
I don't think he needs a full rework but he needs a LOT of work
Well I've never played returns we're talking about ror1
Yeah agreed
They did not cook with him at all
Drowning in irony
Get it because he's a chef robot?
Guess you could say they really burnt his kit
Looks like they left the stove on
Make his Cleavers a "shotgun" with automatic recall, give his health drops bigger pickup range, move "Yes, Chef!" to Utility, overall number tweaks, etc.

Why yes chief to utility
Make chef do 10000000000000000000000000000% percent damage and he'll be better
So it has a use, nobody taking that thing over Glaze
You are practically only judging chief by how good he is and not his fun playstyle he had in ror1 which they ruined in ror2
His kit being horrible is what's making him not fun
I can enjoy a mid/bad survivor but being essentially locked to Glaze + Sear isn't fun or engaging
Both special have completely different playstyle there no need to switch places with them “yes chief” only needs a buff/rework
For me the only things that I wish that they change for chef to make it fun are:
1- make the primary charges scale with attack speed
2- remove that weird moment after using Sear/flamethrower that you can't use any ability
3- Yes chef primary make it that affect all the charges.
I say they need to remove the charge completely because attack speed would still suck as long charges exist thanks to the recall system
And probably makes Sear with yes chef apply glaze by itself.
If the play style of Yes, Chef! is barrel stuffing an enemy with Primary and risking your life then sure, I've had zero success with the other two boosted abilities
Just make it so the cleaver comes back automatically
Probably but it's just my opinion, I like primaries with charge mechanics and I always wanted to put a system that increases charges the more attack speed you have.
Any tips on using "Yes, Chef!" would be appreciated though, it's entirely possible there's a better way to use it and I'm just doing it wrong.
Ok but it’s either the recall system or the charges one of them gotta go
Just do both
I think Glaze is just objectively way better but perhaps I'm being close minded
Have the cleavers come back automatically with no charge system
I find yes chief just more fun
Infinite cleavers just like in ror1/r
The game could surely handle that 
It should be able to if ror1 can handle it
How do you find success with it? Genuinely curious, I may give it another shot to solidify my opinion on it.
That makes no sense whatsoever but sure
Perfect sense idk what you mean
One thing I'm dead set on for Chef is that his food pickups need a bigger pickup range
Like damn, I gotta go fetch that thing
Wait for the right moment then do barrel->yes chef-> boosted primary and then run, the cleaver behind you will gather up and hit the enemy. If it’s a flying you are quite cooked unless it goes close to the ground.
They already are planning to do that #announcements message
from a scale of 1 to 10 how fun is chef to play as
-101001010101001010101011
1 I rather play e8 Rex
Is that spam or binary?
Oh is that the steam link? I must've missed it. My bad
ok so the bug is actually saving me
All
That's awesome
Yeah but I wished they addressed more chief problem instead of just a pickup range
By Barrel do you mean Roll? Like, Roll through them to have all the Cleavers recall through them
Yeah
Tho last time I played chief was on a lucky god run, so I’m might be a bit biased just can’t bother to play that character
That's fair, I'm willing to try it either way though. Maybe it'll alter my opinion on it
First 3 stages 7/10, after that if you don't have good items, 3/10
Hopefully but tbh I find both yes chief and glaze ass like the character
this applies to most survivors
He's fun in concept, but the execution is so incredibly poor
if you get outscaled it feels terrible
Yeah they genuinely executed his character
Yes but they don't feel as bad as chef.
The health pickup change opens the path to more extensive changes in the future though, so he'll get better I hope
At least for my playstyle.
Surely that's their plan 
I find the utility fun, the special is ok, seers being melee with not worth it damage suck and primary is just awful but pierce is fun
I think Sear just needs hella buffs bc it's kinda worthless without Glaze most of the time
Sear is the issue, not Glaze
Mini arti flame thrower but all the pros got removed
can you sprint with sear
I think so?
Yeah but kinda awkward to aim with that low range
I do enjoy being able to use all of my abilities during my utility, that's a good aspect of him
i kinda wonder if being able to hold the secret character's special is intentional
i feel like that mechanic has to be intentional but it breaks the survivor
I wonder if being able to spring while shooting is intentional because the laser will just start going everywhere visually
Its definitely not intentional to fire the laser past its intended duration cap
Holding the Laser's charge indefinitely? Definitely intentional
its kinda funny watching the laser go everywhere but where youre aiming
This is probably also intended as the boss version of the character moves at full speed while lasering
(unfortunately)
I guess they are just being lazy/rushed like usually
I feel like the bug is the laser freaking out when you start moving lmao
Cuz the hitbox stays the same no matter what
Oh really its just visual?
Yeah
from my experience it doesnt feel like it
You can walk, sprint, jump, etc. Hitbox stays as a straight line
You kinda start to notice your dps is the same no matter what circus trick the laser is doing
Idk the laser seemed to deal WAY less damage when it started twitching
Idk, I can be moving light speed and my damage stays on target
Yeah, I notice it the most with the damage number or hit per second
I never get any breaks between DMG ticks unless my aim actually moves off target
I've lost my false son survivor and prime Miridian engineer skin 😭 what happened?
A few days ago I had them and now they're gone like my save was rolled back
Maybe the game didn't save up, everytime that you finish a run or leave for the day check at the bottom right of the screen for 2 arrows doing a circle, if you see it that means that your game got saved, if you don't see it, move around the menus or start a new run and leave right away until you see those arrows.
I unlocked him and then played 3 more runs with him, unlocking both his monsoon skin and his alt ability
why would they bother with growth scaling the duration then ??? its not intentional
Which console do you play on?
Ps5. I've still got the achievement for unlocking him but when I loaded up the game he's locked again
Growth increases max duration at full charge, holding the charge just means it won't automatically activate or cancel itself at full charge
Does PS5 have like some sort of Quick Resume thing like Xbox?
oh thats what you mean? i meant the infinite laser duration bug
It's like holding the charged slam forever
Yeah. I didn't even know that was a bug lmao
so, after charging and releasing the laser
just press and hold the laser button again
you will be permanently laser until the laser comes off cooldown, and then u have to charge it up again. so its not infinite i guess its 15
well, its infinite once false son steals your abilities lol
Perfectly polished game 
so false son with this bug is really op into false son
conversely, if you try this bug with a million alien heads, you get 1 second of laser until the laser is off cooldown and it forces u to start charging
After some deep thoughts, I've come to the conclusion that the BUG is not intentional
But holding full charge forever is
yeah the kratos image really did a number on this channel
i dont know this lore but i guess ill put it in main first
Just get an old aspect 
I need to use it before it gets patched so I can get false sons alt skin
Basically, 87 ish items out one chest, nice.
yeah same dude. i got 3000 laser scopes and 736 glasses
If that were on railgunner I wonder when you’d actually stop one shotting
i hit everything for like 3mil
Yeah.......
It also has the tendency to wipe your entire inventory at the start of a stage
So maybe not the best idea
Well I like gambling soo
Even if you take it off
I've literally not found a gold shrine since the dlc has been out... Not a single one 😭
I’ve found one since the dlc
I've found two
I still gotta do those
My fav is still huntress' new skin tho
All I've been doing is mp runs with my friends but they are omega casuals
Not like, an insult it just means runs are very unlikely to win
I liked Viend's
Viend's is pretty cool
have you gotten false sons skin
shits fire
Yeah its cool
waga
I beat false son again but still havent unlocked him
with halcyon seed?
🤝
With him taking halcyon seed from you in 3rd phase?
Ah i killed him too fast for that
That’ll do it
Guess i gotta go easy on bro
Ding ding ding
Nah you can skip first two phases, let 3rd phase breathe a little. If you’re on command just bring that free revive seed with you
He does the same it just takes like 10-20sec into 3rd phase
I think he disables your skills first idk for sure
That mf not survivng 2 seconds with me 😭😭😭😭
After I unlocked him I stopped fighting him
I just fight Voidling, that’s the only final boss to me
Mithrix?
“The teleporter has been aligned with the planet”
Every time.
I always go for beads then pick fighting voidling or just the scav
I was playing command with friends and stacked 3 beads not realising scrappers dont spawn in command
I had 30 levels in that thing
Yoo when does this game release on ps3
Oh I mean the blue beads lmao
Gotta earn back the coins I always waste going for heretic
I've heard reports of ps3's taking off when entering stage 1
Beads of heresy or whatever its called?
Can someone send me how to duplicate items in depth
Ye the beads of fealty
Also lunars cant be scrapped by traditional means
You need to find a cleansing pool which is somewhat rare and itll transform a random lunar into a pearl or irradiant pearl
I think he meant the prayer beads that buff when scrapped
Right that does make more sense
How do those work
That’s why you just play without command
Banana or apple
Apple
Sacrifice+swarm is already too much of a build creator
You have chosen apple on pizza
Get 1 gasoline and you basically won
They gain XP while holding
When you remove them you gain their level as stat percentage
(Lvl15 beads = 15% stat up)
I think it's the lvl translated to stats
You'll have to double check that with the logbook or wiki
Ohhhhh thanks
Are the patch notes out on console yet?
so if i bought the dlc is there a risk of me loosing my acc on xbox if i do online multiplayer
im pretty sure even if you don’t have the dlc there’s a chance
hooray
Is gamesharing the dlc possible?
Yes
No (:
We're so back
Lmfao
What the flip guys
Pc update only 😦
how is the dlc
ok i think this announcement confirms they will polish the dlc
yay!!!!
That was already clear before
everyone was being so pessimistic thinking the bugs would stay lol
You can game share the dlc man
You know I really don't want to be "that guy" but a bunch of people had their saves wiped is there anything done about that?
i didnt know if it was only gonna be bug fixes
No. The only way you would lose progress is if you managed to bypass the soft lock, or got to play CO-OP. Otherwise you’re fine
I’ll be that guy every day until it’s fixed I do not care need my save
i mean it was an ongoing issue for a couple years to be fair
On the ps5 edition I don't have it anymore and I got it from my friends acc
Fair
Idk ps5 but Xbox works
Damn
rip hopoo tho
Ps5 is working
how long do we think it'll take for the console version?
betting on saturday
So patchnotes are only for PC? 
history shows it takes ages
Yeah
They're definitely gonna undelete the saves that wasn't put on any sort of cloud
soon
Nah thats way too hopeful
Man, not a even a slight mention of console, I know they got Xbox atleast the ability to get past the menu but we still have every single bug rn
Id imagine at least 4 days
Much more I think next week
you'll get the classic soon response to patch for console and then we will wait for half a year
They already mentioned before that console will get the patch later
good times
You being waaaay to generous there, give it a week or so. Or a month (or 3 years)
We're so back to console getting the scraps guys
Chucky line:Good times are coming
Nah it wont take a month considering it took less than 2 weeks for pc
That's true tbf
A week maybe but not a month
how long have you been here lmao
not a month? Oh so a year
holy shit gearbox pulled through
Long enough to have been able to read that they unified the codebase to make patches be more efficient
betting on 2029
I'm assuming they don't want to push out a patch that can potentially break consoles again
And I know how long sotv took
Where were you for when it took em several years to remember they made a console port? They legit forgot and add to be reminded it even existed... I envy this pov tbh
real
No need for the sarcasm pal
unlocking artifacts seems to have a chance to softlock you on console
Again they UNIFIED THE CODEBASE FOR BETTER AND FASTER BUGFIXING ACROSS VERSIONS
Even us console folks recognize it's the most hated port, it's just wild
Ah dammit they fixed the funny fps bugs and false son infinite laser. Well time to speedrun false son e8 on switch before that get patched out
Not exactly becasue some bugs are console exclusive,so yes and no
Internet mfs jump down your throat at anything these days
Fr?
that sounds good on paper but lets find out what really happens
damn no bare minimum here
fat bug fixes
R the patch notes PC only?
Yeah, portal won't spawn like 20% of the time for some reason, or like maybe it spawns but you can't see it (you can feel the vibration tho)
This actually lead to many of the problems PC is now suffering from, and everyone wants them to revert that
Console doesnt have the patch yet
they really snuck in a sonorous whispers nerf as a "bugfix"
it will come to concoles sometime
Its not like gearbox is unable to just improve the console codebase
It should be soon they said
Lmao #ror2-discussion lost image perms
YIPPE
In 1 or 2....years
NO MORE PREGCRID
... Imma just hold my peace on this
Real
Don't worry, I will do something about it
Is the splitscreen option available on switch ? I saw it advertised, but haven't noticed an option in the menu
They said previously they were making a patch for PC (as it was worse off) and it would be soon to follow on consoles
i highly doubt that
No
Nope
What
Let's be real, it was way to strong
^^^^
Nah I'm joking
Pc players have already fixed everything themselves with mods
yeah i thought so
Console isn't as buggy due to the preset framerate
If you loop
ror2 might be back?
We can't do that on xbox
But we will get the patch soon don't worry
Guys what is happening to ror2 discussion
I mean, it was playable until it wasn't
I barely have problems, only problem I have is the stupid director elite spam
It's as bad as us that they lost perms the fuck is happening?
I KNEW I WASNT GOING INSANE
people are being obnoxious thinking spamming a gif is gonna change anything
It’s only pc patch note, false son infinite laser and sonorous whisper is still strong
I have thought for ages they seemed more common
Even on ps5 we can't do that
yeah fr
Well obviously but why
bruh moment
I love how they went "We're updating the codebase so updates can be pushed on all platforms at the same time" and then they don't push updates on all platforms at the same time because they fucked the codebase sixteen different ways
has anyone played with the patch yet
Not for much longer though
whipsers is now balanced sort of
Are they really complaining when they JUST got a bug patch?
Its not on console
Because Gearbox shipped out a shitty DLC with a shitty patch and people are rightfully upset about it
Yeah, we're probably literally waiting in the console update process the companies have, not gearbox itself
because it was rushed lol?
Fair enough
Anyways any one wanna do e6 on switch, I gotta start grinding false son before the funny bug get glitched.
What's bad about this patch
It fixed a LOT of issues and it's very very fast released in comparison to a lot of games
nothing other than some issues that weren't officially addressed
like for the most part this is a massive fix
theres still things that need ironing out
I would say a week or two tops before we get the patch
It’s quite rare for gearbox to give us a full patch note
I think gearbox undeniably messed up big time but people aren't giving credit that they are working very hard to fix it
The consoles fix and patch now in just over a week is lightning fast
Have they fixed the bug with the camera bugging out when you teleport to a new zone on Xbox when?
Im so glad im not in the pc part of the community
the speed kinda pisses me off since it shows they could've ironed it all out from the start if they gave a shit
i dont think randy bitchfuck is helping with the negativity though
"jank we've just sort of tolerated"
The new patch is currently only on pc
Yo I need help with smth
Very true
That was probably take twos fault to push them
So I just bought the survivors of the void dlc
They almost definitely didn't have time to iron it out
Didn’t modders do it faster tho
theyre fixin stuff as fast as they can
sadly most folks are still rampant as a group of rabid racoons
Or they were rushed af to release it and then pressured/rushed to get the patch with inhuman hours
And it says it's installed but it isn't giving me the option to download it
I am on ps4 btw
Oh absolutely, but ror2 only has 6 programmers
No one is blaming the devs, it's solely the producers' fault
They literally get a patch that fixes so much shit and have the audacity to complain? Crazy
Sadly but hey at least the game is healing
It's technically already downloaded
The modding community is a lot larger than their team
And you can't say the producers were being rushed lol
You just need to restart your game
I’m blaming the devs some of the mechanics suck
Well I just deleted and re-downloaded the game
The purchase is just getting the license to play the sotv content
and even if they were rushed, Cyberpunk taught us a lesson
that's not entirely their fault. they more than likely would have gone over those mechanics to rework them and make them better but they were pushed out because there was no other choice
And one would expect a big company like gearbox to have professional programmers instead of whatever the mess of a spaghetti code they have done
it was either release it in an unfinished state or don't release it at all
Its not that easy for companies to delay games released on multiple other platforms
Ig I'll do restore licenses and open it, Thank you
except the community
How is the switch version of the game so far because I remember even after the mentioned reworking the code from the ground up it still had problems
i dont think its a result of bad programmers, just a result of not enough time
I mean fuck the community as long as the game gets running again im big chilling
especially with the fact they just dropped the release date DAYS before it was supposed to come out is a sign things weren't ready at all
When chef recalls cleavers
Chef recalls cleavers
Maybe but they had been working on the console sotv port for 2 years and still came out rushed like from my view point it’s just look like both are in effect
There is a line of code that does exactly that
idk man when gearbox first released the announcement of this dlc they seemed really happy and they looked like they enjoy the game, it just looks like there wasnt enough time for this game
So is patch working? Just wanna make sure I don’t nuke my game
Also the deltatime thing that existed on pc until now
I mean if it works
The new patch is currently only on pc
Ah I see
I mean we didn't really have most of those pc issues
Yeah, we had a good amount of bugs patched, or unnoticed (because fps lock) so I'm not really complaining
Pc was mostly suffering about the fps bug after all
This community has turned into shit bro no one is happy about this patch even though they were BEGGING for a patch a few days ago
Tho acrid leap and mithrix invincibility fixes are needed here too
We will get the patch soon enough
Just let them cope
I mean it’s kinda eh for the console community who have been dealing with this for nearly 4 years
I bet you the pc side is having a change over if they aren’t having a riot of the removed image perms
That's fair, the pc community does not get to complain when they are always first lmao. So pathetic
was it not a thing before
Nah they were stuck
i mean it doesn't help when the face of gearbox keeps downplaying how bad it was on launch (for both pc and xbox)
Not on console no
I thought I was just having a skill issue
At least they got a patch, idgaf about randy pitchdick
"some jank we've just sort of tolerated" is not something you want to say to a fanbase that just got bent over backwards with a 15$ unfinished mess
I think that's mostly randy bitchford
I should have played around more with loader before the fps bug got fixed😔
Randy seems ENTIRELY disconnected from the dev process lol
Loader is fine on console from what I've played
oh he is but he definitely acts like he's part of it
Randy should like totally delete every social media platform he's apart of
I mean I still have a pc just kinda prefer the switch
"I was in the digital war room all day" says the guy that gets paid to tweet about himself
Same. I like playing on my tv
Hope you enjoy the patch instead of the others complaining about getting fixes
It’s feel more satisfying grinding eclipse on console meanwhile pc player just cheat eclipse or lunars
I just hope that the switch crashes and music cutoffs get patched
I wasn’t saying the patch itself was bad just wanted to mess around with the bugs more
Gearbox patch those 2 bugs and my life is yours!
Ik you weren't but everyone else on pc seem super ungrateful
It’s all fun and games until gearbox forces you into slave labor
The patch is only pc?
I've managed to avoid any crashes by restarting the game every couple of runs
they fixed some stuff on console if im not wrong
Just wondering why we still continue to get left behind, even though Gearbox acquiring the IP was supposed to be the remedy for that.
What's the console state looking like
Yeah, I kinda just tolerated those bugs compared to the average of player
Ye that does work but I dont want to have to do that
Pc is way more broken then console atm
Can I update my PlayStation version 🙏
The new patch is currently only on pc

you could literally lose all of your save data if you connected a second controller so. I definitely think console was in desperate need for a patch more than pc
That got fixed didn't it
God im glad I can just copy paste this message over and over again
And they fixed that first
pc is at the very least, "playable"
That's objectively wrong and a lie.
Ty for doing the Lord's work
...no? No it isn't.
Yeah, thankfully gearbox actually patched that and then went to work on pc
Its not lmao
im still baffled how that even happens
Pc got hit VERY hard with the sots patch
is the dlc broken on xbox still or is it actually worth buying rn
The new patch is currently only on pc
Its not worth it rn
awesome sauce
you're gonna have to wait like a month for people to give their better judgements on the dlc
There has never been a point in this game's life that console was in better shape than PC, and now is no different
Bugs aside I think sots is just. Okay?
content wise it's fine. like a 5 or 6/10
I like it
Seeker is p neat I'm not a fan of the new stages
I say the dlc is good if you are desperate for content like playing a bad mod
The treetop one feels weird to me
Whatever you say dude
I like a good chunk but some parts seem unrefined
thats cope
HUH?
the tree area, the new stage 5, and chef feel wrong in their own ways
At least this we can agree on. The new stages fuck
The new stages are literally like the best part 🤣
Music and stages especially the music
I don't like the tree tops
The second stage is okay but you can get boxed in those halls p easy if you're not paying attention
Oh my god the music
The music is great
Chris cooked
Chris never misses
Chris ALWAYS cooks
My favourite song oat rn is the new stage 5 music
This place is so more chill than the chat above lol
For me it's gotta be the song from the new stage 1
They're all ungrateful imo. How you gonna be mad about a patch
Console has been burned too many times for us to care atp
It’s a safe places from the brain rot masses
No fr??? I was expecting like people being surprised like I was
The patch went out pretty damn fast
Makes me feel bad for the devs who worked their asses off to get it out as soon as possible
This dlc has done irreparable damage to the community bro 😭
True, being a game developer isn't just "beep boop release game"
Don't mess with the ror community 🤬 we beat up ourselves!!!
I want a balance patch more than a bug patch tbh but it will be nice to have a playable pc version now