ror2-console-discussion

[white quarry]

Skill issue amiright

[wispy crypt]

Obviously

Too unskilled to press a few buttons to disable evo

Alright im curious how ror2 looks with inverted colors

Imma do one stage of it

Yup its as good at eye frying as I expected

[upbeat star]

“Blinding myself with a lamp for views”

[frail merlin]

Max ui, randomized button and worst loadout sounds fun

[coral timber]

Maybe I shouldn’t have hit that mountain shrine

Game depicts it perfectly “you really messed up”

[meager niche]

50 minutes stage 4, what have you been doing?

[rain girder]

what are the chances of getting a red printer

[pale mountain]

1/2

[meager niche]

You can only get them after stage 4 or 5 and above, I don't remember which one correctly, but they are pretty rare, I don't know the specific number but if I have to guess, maybe it's around 1/25 printers that spawn in a stage can be a red printer.

[wispy crypt]

Its stage 5 and abovr

[meager niche]

Thank you

[coral timber]

To be fair there were 3 void seeds and almost zero other loot

So had to kinda take some time with that

[meager niche]

Oh, okay

[mint jolt]

I just got nothing six times in a row from a chance shrine

[glad plover]

I just want to have a normal session

https://youtube.com/shorts/E6W5bckSSEc?feature=share

[sly thorn]

you should go gambling thats really rare

[sly thorn]

you need a #roles for embed perms

[upbeat star]

A difficult choice; thinking kjaro’s for the phase 4 skip

[meager niche]

Yeah

[glad plover]

Cries

😭

[upbeat star]

I just opened one of the pods on commencement with a recycler with gesture and it was another gesture but I turned it into transcendence by accident at the same time i picked it up; I had a healing build with , , and from soup and recycling

its over

[sly thorn]

aegis is actually saving your life its not that bad

because now all healing is overhealing

[frail merlin]

He is gonna fight mithrix a little extra health ain’t gonna do anything especially on eclipse

[quartz bay]

even with rejuvenation rack aegis still sucks

i wouldn't be surprised if aegis was a joke item put in the game because they thought it was funny, thats my conspiracy theory

[upbeat star]

I only had all of those healing items because that’s what they recycled into from the soups, one of the soups being aegis already, while the actual aegis was from the abyssal depths legendary chest, and the rejuv rack from a small chest in it as well

The game literally told me I had to use a healing build

But I ate the crunchy beetle () instead

[wispy crypt]

I completely forgot to document this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222235211211997335/1248706236766097428/IMG_1613.jpg?ex=6669410e&is=6667ef8e&hm=693fe14261a6f2d13a8411e528b6d9c18cb9c82f995d0e670dbe839f0330d0b2&

This bug is still in the fucking game

This is the only image I can get of it though as my model didnt break on my own screen so I couldnt clip it

[upbeat star]

Silly ragdoll funny though

Unless not dead

It’s still kinda funny though, just impractical

[pale mountain]

I forgot about this goofy shit

I don't mind that not getting fixed

[meager niche]

Literally unplayable, I hacked the chance shrine and it cost me 0$ for another try but the text says 25$, unplayable.

[silent python]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ZealousScrumptiousPheasantBleedPurple-3ua6Akr8OsbVruMg

[meager niche]

uhm excuse me fellas I've just posted an issue I've found while playing on the Steam Deck Oled

would really appreciate if anyone could help TT

[white quarry]

Steam deck isn’t a console

Doubt you’d find any help here

[upbeat star]

Commando phase blink confirmed?

I don’t know why I got shifted forwards that quickly

[upbeat star]

just died in void fields to a lemurian after a beetle guard hit me down to OSP with its ground spike line attack while enemies had 5 crowbars, even though I had 2 and a . enemies were only level 7 while i was level 11 too

vf is so 50/50 that its just annoying

you either get easy enemies like alpha constructs, lesser wisps, lemurians and beetles that get mostly useless items, or you get the absolute demons that are bisons, beetle guards, elder lemurians and clay templars who also have crowbars, watches, kjaro's bands and tesla coil

there isnt much in between

[upbeat star]

Goes to the void fields for the 6th time
"[WARNING] Beetle guards have been integrated into the cell..!"
i should quit to the menu

i have gotten beetle guards first every single time 6 times in a row

[upbeat star]

+ -->

[upbeat star]

well that run got ended by ejecting the disc even though i have the game digitally, which closed it

[frail merlin]

If silksong comes in on the Nintendo direct, I will delete my save file and start all over again

[nimble ravine]

Real

[sly thorn]

When is the direct

[frail merlin]

On this month I think

[sly thorn]

That’s a lot of month to go off of

[wintry ivy]

I'll join you

[cunning sage]

Any tips for monsoon on engineer?

Not running artifacts

[sly thorn]

You want to stack as many items as you can that synergize with your turrets

[meager niche]

Depending on which turrets you pick, stationary turrets mobile turrets ,treat your turrets as a way to get "3 times" the amount of items, if you use stationary turrets you have to know the best spots to put them so they don't take as much damage and imagine that the turrets are like a commando, what I mean is that items that synergize well with commando they are also good on the turrets plus the bungus or wungus depending on what you pick.

[white quarry]

Super suprised it wasn’t in the Xbox showcase

Praying for the direct

[opaque pulsar]

Glad I've been getting lucky in early void lands

[upbeat star]

but what if we made it E8?

[upbeat star]

Well I'm probably about to beat E8 as commando on my first try, as I'm at stage 5 with good items and already know what I'm doing

[meager niche]

[upbeat star]

to beat up to and eclipse 8 itself as commando, its basically just make sure to get essence of heresy as early as possible because it's just a direct upgrade to both grenades and suppressive fire as it consistently procs bands, and has a much higher damage potential due to his 1.0 proc coefficient and high fire rate applying up to ~50 ruin stacks max for a single essence stack on an unmoving or slow target, but factor in attack speed boosts and you get up to 100 stacks of ruin on things like brass contraptions

i also find it preferential to get strides of heresy early into a run if going to vields immediately as it allows you to safely heal, but this is slightly impacted by E5's halved healing, however it doesn't change much

it also becomes a pillar skip if you get hardlight afterburner and one more stack of strides

Is 5 afterburners enough?

what do you all think

[meager niche]

Probably

[upbeat star]

it was more than enough lol

i just got all of them because they were the only red item soup

on E7 i got absolutely devious items and it was funny

while on E6 I just suffered with items

So for me, E6 was the hardest

[meager niche]

Congratulations

[upbeat star]

I already know arti and Rex are going to be torture

[meager niche]

Arti?
She is one of the best on eclipse.

[upbeat star]

Not for my gameplay

[meager niche]

Understandable

[upbeat star]

Like I know she’s meant to be burst damage and on kill effect specialised, but I usually end up wasting primary charges on aerial enemies that I miss anyway

So more so arti will personally be torture while Rex will be general torture

I’m thinking about finishing off loader because I’m at E3 with her currently

[frail merlin]

I say arti just depends on what loadout you are running because ion surge is just a free win while flame thrower is like playing commando with no dash

[thin vale]

arti my beloved

[meager niche]

Same

[soft warren]

finally i have found my console brethren

[meager niche]

[vivid sky]

Real

[short iris]

Had a dream that I got in a car crash and into a coma for 3 days and when I woke up the new dlc was out and every item on console was broken

It was the most vivid dream I've had in ages, to the point where I vividly remember ronny sending a wall of text with a custom emote for one of the new items

[frail merlin]

I did not expect me to appear in your dreams.

[wispy crypt]

So now we have confirmation that ronny is gonna find the most fucked and complex console bug on one of the new items

[pale mountain]

Ronny came to him in a dream

[tribal rover]

One hell of a dream lmao

[opaque pulsar]

My first 20 stage run

[stark gale]

Nice!

[upbeat star]

i just noticed that parts of artificer's monsoon skin show as the default skin instead of what they should be

[shut hornet]

Has anyone ever gotten all the eclipse badges on switch

[meager niche]

My little brother is on that, if I remember correctly he only needs eclipse 8 Rex, loader, Railgunner, mercenary and commando.

[frail merlin]

I’m really close to it, I have only loader (e7) and Rex (e5) left

[shut hornet]

Damn yall built different

[pale mountain]

Molded by frames

[meager niche]

I already completed it on Xbox... Multiple times since the release of eclipse.

[proud nymph]

I believe theyre already gone from the server 🤨

[pale mountain]

Lol

[cold bloom]

I fought mythrix for the first time today... He stole all my items and I died...

[sly thorn]

That’s the easy phase…

Also the last. Just keep attacking to get your items back

[cold bloom]

I didn't even know what happened, he used an AoE attack that 1 hit me.

[soft warren]

He uses your items against you

The more powerful you are when you fight him the more powerful he will be in the last phase

[meager niche]

Did you had and bands?

[cold bloom]

I had the bands, like 10 tri-tip daggers and like 10 lens maker glasses

[meager niche]

And you had the corrupted wisp and or shurikens?

[nimble ice]

Why isn’t multiplayer working

[stuck dove]

When is seekers of the storm out?

[frail merlin]

It already did (in my dreams)

[prime wedge]

i downloaded ror2 yesterday but i dont rlly understand the objective of the game

is it just to try and complete as many levels as you can without dying?

[frail merlin]

Yep, like any other rouge like. Try reaching stage 5 for a twist.

[upbeat star]

But no one can replace Rouge… (haha get it I’m so funny please laugh) (I want to die sometimes)

[meager niche]

I just noticed that I need to get the log book of some stages,the log book of voidling the void crab and the void yellow item to actually have 100% competition in the game.

[frail merlin]

And to spice it up, voidling log book is much harder to get on console.

[meager niche]

Why?

[wispy crypt]

Phantom properties

Both log books and the voidling rings are phantom

So the log will just fall into the abyss if you dont catch it literally midair

Because the rings dont apply their collision to it

[meager niche]

Oh, okay

[frail merlin]

Object will catch it tho, so as long it don’t land on the terrain it’s fine.

[meager niche]

Holy Jesus I just noticed the quality because of the amount of things happening on the clip.

[frail merlin]

It looked crispier than most of my switch clip

Anyway eclipse 8 older done, last one left(Rex).
Loader has been quite fun to play, it’s like aiming for stylish point instead of dodging.

[meager niche]

I was farming the void crabs in the void locus stage and I can say, the void locus stage is AWFUL, void fields charging cells mechanic + only void enemies that have insta kill mechanic is the worst combination for fun.

[wispy crypt]

I find locus fun for exactly that

It REALLY forces you to go out inside the fog that damages you

A test of endurance where you want to spend as little time outside as possible but also not stretch it too much to the point where you get insta killed

[meager niche]

Yeah I know but the only mechanic that I don't like about the game is the insta kill, yeah it's a skill issue check but having insta kill orbs left, right,up,down, behind, chasing you and dropping down constantly was stressful , I did leave the areas but man, I have never felt so stressed in the game since my first eclipse grind on the 1.0 on captain.

[wispy crypt]

Exactly it gets you focused like nothing else which really gets the message across that you've entered a place you were NOT meant to be in from which there is also no going back

I think its the best part about the void route for that exact reason

[meager niche]

Welp, it's not for me.

[quartz bay]

that fucking 'stay in a sphere and charge it' mechanic that i hate

if gearbox adds more of those in sots im mauling

its fine for the stage teleporter but its annoying how its used for practically everything

[frail merlin]

Fr

[meager niche]

[vale osprey]

rest in peas 😔

[wispy crypt]

Put in baby jail

[white quarry]

I mean obviously a skill issue

[fleet shoal]

someone turn this into a creepypasta

[thin vale]

the level director is actually a guy that was murdered in 1997 and is seeking revenge, he managed to haunt the servers and got linked to Calvin's xbox, since he and the murderer look pretty alike he decided to troll a commando run and run with the money afterwards

[prime wedge]

what is the point of this game

is it to see what stage u can reach without dying?

[thin vale]

beat the moon daddy

and just unlock stuff, but yeah you can loop the game, sending you back to the begining with all your stuff and strong enemies and just see if you break the game or if a malachite brazen machine breaks you

[meager niche]

Unlock stuff,
defeat mythrix,
obliterate,
defeat voidling (if you have the DLC),
die and repeat (classic rogue like gameplay),
Learn and adapt your play style depending on the items you get,
Play the different game modes (eclipse is the most satisfactory one to complete),
Do ultra late runs until you get bored or die.
These are the things that you can do/objectives in the game.

[nimble ice]

Why isn’t risk of rain multiplayer working

[meager niche]

What are you stuck on?

[nimble ice]

The mutiplayer main screen it keeps loading

[meager niche]

It can be a couple things.
-you started the game through a quick resume and the multiple menu gets bugged, you need to fully close the game and open it, this may fix it.
-your internet is slow or having problems.

[nimble ice]

Thank you

[granite sail]

I got my huntress monsoon win with the help of lem friends

[meager niche]

Congratulations

[granite sail]

devotion is such a fun artifact

[meager niche]

Yep.

[prime wedge]

thanks 🙂

[tribal solstice]

Are the tamed lumerians supposed to be braindead? (They like to stand still and not attack sometimes)

[wispy crypt]

Uhhhhh sorta

The ai in this game is just fucked in general

They usually arent supposed to just stand around and do nothing when there are enemies nearby but when its just you and them then its normal for them to just follow you and do nothing else

[tribal solstice]

Like they will just stand still and get killed by enemies and they seem to have their own ai, they are smarter than beetle guards

Because beetle guards just jump of ledges

[wispy crypt]

I mean in the end it is just lemurians so they need items from you to endure

[meager niche]

I'm looking for someone play risk of rain 2 with me.

[wispy crypt]

#lfg-playstation-ror2 is where most people who want to play are gonna be (it will take a while until someone responds if at all but its the best we got)

[meager niche]

Thank you

[frail merlin]

This is a crazy bug, thqwibble would love this.

It gets worse😭, rip run

[wintry ivy]

Why is there so many void items

That's where all my void items went you stole them all

[frail merlin]

The run was so bad it didn’t matter if I had voided item or not

[wintry ivy]

Well duh you had void bands

I swear every time I play I get 0 to 1 void items no matter long I play then your over here getting every one of them

And do you just never use lunar items

I cant even keep 1 lunar coin my gambling addiction gets to me

[frail merlin]

I purposely avoid to spend lunar so I can flex in multiplayer with my high count.

[wintry ivy]

Ah

[meager niche]

Yeah, I started to notice last week that if you have a specific combination of void items and fight against the lunar chimeras enemies your game starts to lag more and more until you reach seconds per frame.

[frail merlin]

Happened to have a very useful clip regarding that. I would assume it’s tenta bauble and void bands

[meager niche]

Maybe, we need to do more testing... Command artifact It is.

[quartz bay]

REAL

i did play a bit of the switch version earlier, you probably saw ronny, after over a little over a month. got to see that the game still sometimes randomly spawns a ton of enemies when activating a pillar on the moon lol

[wintry ivy]

Guys how many loops are a reasonable amount for eclipse

[quartz bay]

it doesn't really matter, usually if i loop i just loop till i get bored

i have looped e8 runs the worst that can happen is dying but thats avoidable

[wintry ivy]

Cus like I'm just now getting into eclipse and for my first eclipse on engi I looped like 3 times then fought mithrix and won so idk if I should just keep looping or go straight to him

[quartz bay]

i suppose just go to mithrix whenever your ready, doing non loop runs occasionally is good practice for fighting mithrix without a god run
especially in later eclipse levels when mithrix starts moving faster and attacking more frequently

its just good to know how to fight him if you're too lazy to do loops

[wintry ivy]

Well like I've got all the monsoon skins and I've fought mithrix alot I just wanted to know what the strat was but if the strat is do what you want then I guess it works out

Tho I'll tell you what I'm struggling with arti

[wintry ivy]

Raaaaaaaaa

Ignore the glare I can't figure out how to send it to my phone from my ps

[viscid agate]

arti is one of the worst characters in the game

so that's probably why lmfao

[quartz bay]

skill issue

[wintry ivy]

Lol

[wintry ivy]

Oh 100 percent

Like it's not even funny

[meager niche]

Artificer on eclipse is another story and yeah, it's a big skill issue check if you struggle with Arti.

[viscid agate]

not really

she has an absurdly difficult kit and very different playstyle compared to other survivors

she also has terrible skills compared to other survivors and overall is an extremely lacking character

[meager niche]

She is a abilities cooldown management survivor, if you just throw your abilities without any order or coherency you are going to struggle, why do you think I main her? Because of that, knowing when to use each abilities depending on the moment and enemies and remember, she can float so take advantage of that.

[viscid agate]

I have mained her for eons before your existance in this realm

[meager niche]

[viscid agate]

don't recite the cycle to me, for I was there when it was written

[meager niche]

For how long have you been playing? In terms of which update you started to play the game.

[viscid agate]

arti's problem is not an issue with her skills. not an issue with her players. it's number issue, straight 'n true.

[viscid agate]

scorched acres

[meager niche]

Almost at the same time, I started to play on the skill 2.0 update.

[viscid agate]

she's out dps'd by captain, a utility charcter. arti is SUPPOSED to be THE definitive damage character

and i'm sorry, I love arti to pieces, but she's D tier

her skills all have major downsides (except snap freeze which is an S tier skill one of the best in the game) and they don't deal enough damage to justify them

[meager niche]

Tier list... If I am honest I hate including that in this game, I don't care about who is better or worse, I only care if they do something and if they do something I can make it work and have fun, I don't care that artificer gets outclassed by everyone, I love her play style and abilities I don't care about the other survivors when I play her, or another survivor, if I pick one I play with that survivor I play with his capabilities, strengths and weakness.

[viscid agate]

ok, I LOVE ARTI TOO. mained her for a long ass time. and you DONT HAVE TO CARE, nobody said you did. but she sucks. and if somebody is struggling with her, it's not a skill issue. it's because she's tough.

[meager niche]

Sorry, between that I tried to translate my Mexican thoughts to English and I had some bad moments in the channel about someone having an opinion, I put mine and then all of the sudden they get mad it really gets me kind of mad, but know that I am calm down, yeah I know artificer is bad but she is not unplayable, at the same time I love playing tough characters whenever I play a game and Arti fits on that.

For me the survivor that it's a personal skill issue is Rex, I know it is strong but I hate it's play style, I believe it is the survivor with more deaths I have.

[quartz bay]

theres this meme i really wanna send but im holding back with all my might not to send it

[pale mountain]

PS App

[wintry ivy]

I tried that and I can't figure out where to go

I figured it out wahooo

[frail merlin]

Is arti really a damage focus survivor? Because I think it’s quite obvious she’s more focused around crowd control and aoE attacks. Besides a couple of bands fix all damage problems(if you are lucky).

[quartz bay]

all characters are damage focus if you really think about it

you need damage items to survive

[pale mountain]

Huntress is the most damage focused of them all am I right

Truly putting the pea shooter in glass cannon

[viscid agate]

All of her skills are attacks if that's not damage focused idk what is

[soft warren]

Lol

[meager niche]

I mean, she has a 100% hit rate on the primary attack.

[pale mountain]

So do I😎

[meager niche]

[frail merlin]

So a single move not dealing damage (even tho ion surge exist which is basically a utility move but with damage) would change arti as a whole

[meager niche]

Artificer gameplay is about, "it's over Anakin, I have the high ground" and rain down magic to the enemies.

[frail merlin]

I did most of my run with flamethrower where arti truly struggles with dodging😔

[pale mountain]

If only they gave Huntress one more move that did damage

[meager niche]

So do I and don't regret it because I love flamethrower even if it's possibly the worst attack ability of the game, something about using it correctly and cancel it when you have to run is satisfactory.

[meager niche]

We are talking about artificer, no huntress.

[frail merlin]

True, it’s like being an under dog but also at the same time I regret spending so much time with the arti eclipse climb when I could have just ran through with ion surge.

[meager niche]

One good thing that I can say about flamethrower is the 5 seconds cooldown, basically allowing artificer to have a play style of non stop attacking with something, ion surge is more safe but there are down times where you have to wait for the cooldowns of your other abilities to attack, meanwhile flamethrower play style is about non stop using your abilities, example, you starts with the 4 charges of the primary, then ice wall, then flamethrower and then your fully charged secondary and when you finish that cycle you have again your 4 charges of your primary and flamethrower about to be available, it's just a constant cycle of abilities.

[viscid agate]

Yes it would change arti a lot actually. Bandit has 3 damage abilities and a utility ability but he's not known for being a balls to the wall damage character. Captain has 3 damage abilities as well and he's completely a utility character

[viscid agate]

Dude so true our girl arti needs a buff so bad 😭

Her damage should be on par with loader's tbh

She just lacks the punch that really makes some of the other characters shine

[meager niche]

She got buff in the recent update.

[viscid agate]

Sotv?

Cuz I don't think devotion changed any characters. . .

And when I say buff I mean like, and INTENSE buff. She's gotta be doing thousands of percent more damage than she currently is to justify her complete lack of mobility and survivability

She is out dps'd by captain for Christ's sake

[meager niche]

On survivor of the void update on console they added the buff of making the flamethrower tick rate scale with attack speed but they forgot to add the increase of damage to the primaries from 220% to 280% and they just did it in the devotion update.

[viscid agate]

Ohhh gotcha

Yeah still not even close to enough imo

[quartz bay]

bait used to be believable

[thin vale]

acrid stalling the boss for a minute to kill it with poison, who needs damage anyway?

[wispy crypt]

Not for console versions
Thats a pc "feature"

[viscid agate]

Not bait arti needs way more damage to make up for her lack of mobility and survivability

[hot hill]

Yeah, I like arti conceptually but either she's still not great or I just suck at her

[wispy crypt]

Well its half of a joke

The console versions (playstation xbox and switch) just dont have access to those options

[meager niche]

Welp, the only thing that we can do is wait for gearbox and hopefully they apply some balance changes in the upcoming dlc SoTS update and hope that there may be buffs for artificer.

[frail merlin]

The real survivor who needs a buff is Rex

[meager niche]

[hot hill]

Rex never felt weak to me. The void fiend feels like he could use a buff, though

[frail merlin]

Void fiend is by most considered the best survivor, but Rex is just really slow and sacrifices health to deal above average damage.

[hot hill]

Really?

[frail merlin]

Compared to other survivor, especially the high damage one, yes. It does have some good crowd control tho.

[hot hill]

Yeah, but only two damaging abilities with the second form of the first ability being so short range

Always feels weak to me

[frail merlin]

I finds most problem in Rex primary, it’s suck especially when dealing with flying enemies.

[dire bane]

I smell a skill issue and my nose never lies

[pale mountain]

You can win with her obv, but she could def be better. She's kinda dog if you don't get bands

[dire bane]

That's why you run flamethrower

So you can build proc

[viscid agate]

I almost guaruntee I have more hours on arti than you

[viscid agate]

I'm literally the king of the flamers wtf 😭😭

I have no issue winning with arti - she was my first itemless run win

But compared to other survivors she's nutcheek bootybutt

[frail merlin]

No wonder you complain about arti utility when you claim to be king of flame thrower

[viscid agate]

Ion surge is mobility

Arti's rankings in my eyes
Damage: B
Mobility: D
Survivability: F
Utility: F

[frail merlin]

Lack of mobility and survivability…

[viscid agate]

Arti's IDEAL rankings:
Damage: S
Mobility: C
Survivability: F
Utility: F

[viscid agate]

She does have a lack of mobility. Ion surge is a very poor mobility ability. Very little control.

Free pillar skip though

[viscid agate]

Ion surge is almost exclusively utilized as a crutch skill for players who have a difficult time dodging enemy attacks. It has less damage and more commitment than flamethrower so once you learn to dodge attacks consistently there is no reason to take ion surge over flamethrower

[dire bane]

Ion surge in a cave goes hard as a horizontal mobility tool

[viscid agate]

It also just isn't great mobility in the first place, namely because of the lack of control. There is no forward, no backward, no side to side. Only up. And lots of up.

[viscid agate]

Reverse trimping

[frail merlin]

Ok hear this, good at dodging+ion surge=a very easy time

[dire bane]

Just go in a circle you don't need mobility in this game

[frail merlin]

The circle strat work until the enemies start pilling up or just bad tp spawn😔

[dire bane]

Bigger circle then

[viscid agate]

Ok hear this: just kill them lol

You don't need ion surge at all once you're good. And it's fine to not be good yet!! But when you are good ion surge falls off. Hard.

[frail merlin]

Aren’t you supposed to do that all the time

[viscid agate]

Yeah and flamethrower is infinitely better at it

Still trash though lolol

[dire bane]

Ion surge arti is easier no matter if you need it or not theoreticaly you don't need anything other than a 1 dmg tool on a 99 second cooldown

Flamethrower is more fun but Ion is prob better

To me ofc

[viscid agate]

Ion is not better

Be validated my king

[dire bane]

It's a free win

[viscid agate]

Nah it's just a pillar skip

[frail merlin]

Every time I end up playing flame thrower I just end up just not using it because my other abilities are enough damage to not risk it for a extra more

[viscid agate]

Untrue due to exponential scaling

There is in fact a minimum dps requirement to beat the game. How big it is depends on how fast you go.

[dire bane]

Items exponentialy scale

[viscid agate]

Yeah it's a good thing too because so do enemies (to a point)

[viscid agate]

More = better

If you're not using flamethrower there's your problem

[frail merlin]

Seems like he ignored why I choose to not use flame thrower, I rather run in Circles rather than having to walk in circles

[viscid agate]

Flamethrower lasts like, what, 4 seconds? Just run the rest of the time. Plus you evidently don't run in circles if you use ion surge because the jetpack is slower than ground movement lol

[frail merlin]

I mostly use flamethrower to have it a more fun because floating in the air is a bit boring

[dire bane]

In the air you don't really need to dodge well to not get hit that's why it's free

[viscid agate]

It's fine to use ion surge personal preference is cool and valid (sometimes) but schlawg it ain't better than the flame 🔥🔥

[viscid agate]

The malachite lesser wisp:

[dire bane]

Once you looped you'll have enough dmg or mobility

[frail merlin]

Complaining about a wisp out of all enemies is crazy, just throw a bomb on it or something

[dire bane]

Mando shoot stuns a wisp lol

[viscid agate]

1800% more hp at lvl. 35+ really actually becomes quite the threat

I'll share the best piece of advice I ever got

Being bad at ror2 means having the most deaths to lesser wisps
Learning the ropes means cowering in fear at the sight of elite elder lemurians
And attaining mastery means having the most deaths to lesser wisps

[frail merlin]

It’s still takes a considerable amount of knockback and you don’t need to one shot it

[viscid agate]

Nah but it'll one shot you LOL

[dire bane]

This isn't advice it's just a statement lol

[viscid agate]

I took it as advice

[frail merlin]

If you can’t deal with a wisp in air there no way In hell you are surviving on ground

[viscid agate]

Maybe one day you'll understand the true meaning....

[viscid agate]

You have less mobility in the air than on the ground??

[dire bane]

Advice is something I can apply to help me get better this is just telling me what happens when I'm better

[viscid agate]

It helped me get a lot better idk what to tell you

[dire bane]

The best players have mithrix as their most deaths

Generally

[frail merlin]

Do you just not pick up any mobility item to cover it up especially when you are looping and I wouldn’t let myself cower in fear at a little less speed stop me

[viscid agate]

Nah no way the best players almost never die to mithrix because he's such a readable boss

He's very very easy to kill consistently

[dire bane]

The best players don't die earlier to wisp man💀

[viscid agate]

I do mobility items and then I just use them on the ground because they're more effective on the ground than in the air. Like wax quail or energy drink

[dire bane]

You can sprint in the air

[viscid agate]

After like, 400 hours I can assure you they do. And that's not even necessarily what the advice means anyways.

[frail merlin]

Energy drink doesn’t work in air is crazy no wonder you think it’s slow,this explains it.

[dire bane]

Bro I got 1k hours lol

[viscid agate]

Oh nah why tf 💀 the game ain't that good

Plus you ain't talking like somebody with 1k hours anyways

[viscid agate]

Energy drink is a bad example mb but quail is better applied on the ground

Or hopoo feather, also better on the ground

[frail merlin]

I say not having to deal with 50% of the enemies is a good trade off for not using wax quail or hoopoo feather

[dire bane]

Bro there is no set way to talk with playtimes

You are out here thinking ur the best player at 400 hours

[viscid agate]

I actively want to deal with the enemies because enemies = money = more items

[viscid agate]

When did I say that 😭

[viscid agate]

Yeah you right but most experienced players wouldn't claim mithrix is hard at all

We all complain about voiding

[viscid agate]

And running away from em just lets them stack up and become more of a problem than they should be

[frail merlin]

So you are not allowed to Kil the ground enemies when in air? I will learn more absurd fact if this continues.

[dire bane]

Never said he was hard

[viscid agate]

It's easier on the ground because

1. nano bomb has weird drop off
2. flamebolts are hard to aim long distance
3. flamethrower can only be used at short distance

[dire bane]

But he is def harder than wisps

[forest pumice]

Isn't the whole point of artificer AOE damage, so stacked up enemies is a good thing?

[viscid agate]

You right yeah.
You said most experienced players have the most deaths to mithrix, but that's not true either cuz mithrix is Hella easy for experienced players.

[frail merlin]

1 makes it perfect for aiming in air
2 aim harder
3 yeah no this doesn’t matter if you are using ion surge

[viscid agate]

Ok the advice just means that you attain mastery through dying to the weakest enemies a thousand times. New players have 5 deaths to a wisp. Masterful ones have 500. You understand?

[wispy crypt]

Real experienced players have the most deaths to captain (but no most pros would have things like wisps as their nemesis)

[dire bane]

Everything else before him is easier and phase 4 can be buggy and just kill you through walls lol

[wispy crypt]

Like the better you get the less you die to the harder things

For reference I still have the old beetles in my list of most deaths to

I havent died to a bettle in years

[frail merlin]

The profile is inaccurate so who cares what your stats is anyway

[viscid agate]

1. ok and if the enemies aren't right below you? Easier to use on the ground.
2. yep easier to use on the ground
3. ok cool but I'm arguing flamethrower is better because and why you should use it. Therefore I wouldn't be accounting for ion surge.

[viscid agate]

Oh nah phase 4 is literally free as fuck post patch

[dire bane]

The blazing bug lmao

[wispy crypt]

Yup

[viscid agate]

So real dude. . .

[viscid agate]

You can genuinely sit there and do nothing and he will kill himself

[wispy crypt]

Not quite

[frail merlin]

So flamethrower is now the easier option and not ion surge

[dire bane]

Idk this guy is crazy

[viscid agate]

Flamethrower is easier to get more damage out of

[dire bane]

Yea it's a damage skill

[wispy crypt]

Arti doesnt struggle with damage though

[dire bane]

Ion isn't

[viscid agate]

True after dismantling everything you guys have said piece by piece I'm the crazy one

[wispy crypt]

Her damage is not amazing but its passable

[frail merlin]

That’s crazy I didn’t know that 🤯

[wispy crypt]

Especially with the freeze execute

[viscid agate]

Yeah it's B tier in my eyes but she gets a lot of extra utility out of more damage because

1. freeze execute and
2. she is built to be a damage character. She works best when she is entirely damage oriented

[dire bane]

Saying ion is worse bc less it can't do as much dmg isnt a valid comparison

[wispy crypt]

Flamethrower isnt needed

[viscid agate]

Does she struggle. . .
I wouldn't say struggle. But she does need more damage to make up for her lack of other stats

[wispy crypt]

Ion can provide good vertical mobility which there arent many items to replicate that effect

[frail merlin]

I say she’s more like a crowd control character which lack railgunner and not loader cause she is the most op survivor.

[viscid agate]

This game is all about damage. You kill things to move on. You don't outrun them, you don't outheal them, you kill them. Damage is king.

[wispy crypt]

You do outrun them though

[viscid agate]

Loader. . .
Yeah she's op. Railgunner is OP too but she's only good in 6mm

[wispy crypt]

The game isnt always gonna give you items that work for a pure damage build

[viscid agate]

You can outrun them all stage but if you don't kill the teleporter boss you're not moving on

[wispy crypt]

You need mobility for reliable survivability

[frail merlin]

I love abandoning my teammate as soon as blazing vagrant spawn

[viscid agate]

Not really cuz itemless runs exist

[dire bane]

You don't need crazy dps to kill the Tele boss

[viscid agate]

Yeah we have a word for those runs. "Cope runs"

[dire bane]

It can take 50 minutes and you can still win

[viscid agate]

Not crazy. But you do need dps.

[viscid agate]

And what will you do on the next stage? Play perfectly for another 50 minutes? And again? And again?

[dire bane]

Yea

If the game doesn't give you dmg you need to play like that

[frail merlin]

Someone did a 30 min per stage to counter that specific argument, he did have luck carrying him tho.

[viscid agate]

Ok well I'm not that good, nor have I seen anybody who is so when I am that good I'll lyk if it works

[viscid agate]

What character

[frail merlin]

Bandit

[dire bane]

Race has a video where he does exactly this

[viscid agate]

That's very impressive but it's undeniable he would have had an easier time if he just stacked damage and finished the stage in 5 minutes

[wispy crypt]

NO

[dire bane]

The game didn't give him dmg to stack my guy

[wispy crypt]

YOU ARE NOT SUGGESTINF 5 MINUTES A STAGE

[frail merlin]

💀

[viscid agate]

I full clear stages in 5 minutes idk

[wispy crypt]

Suuuuure

[viscid agate]

Always full clear just move on when you're done girl

[viscid agate]

Yeah it's not hard at all

[dire bane]

As flamer arti siphoned takes more than 5 min to full loot

[viscid agate]

Merc makes stage traversal easy

[viscid agate]

As arti it takes me more like 7

[wispy crypt]

Obviously the character with high mobility can clear stages faster

[frail merlin]

Most of my run last 70+ min🤷‍♂️

[viscid agate]

Woah that's long most of mine take 50 or less

[viscid agate]

Why are you coming after me for this shit 5-7 minutes is such a normal time to clear stages 😭

[meager niche]

I want to join, what is happening?

[frail merlin]

I used to play shorter but now i play like a snail, I will call this the race effect.

[forest pumice]

Flamethrower vs ion surge

[meager niche]

[frail merlin]

Practically over, grab some popcorn scroll up and watch the debate

[meager niche]

150 messages.

[frail merlin]

[viscid agate]

I just tend to move faster than most people ig

I just stick to 1 item per minute

Obviously in later stages that doesn't apply but it works for me

[viscid agate]

And normally I end up getting more than this anyways

[frail merlin]

Good for you, I don’t even like wasting so much time.

[dire bane]

Taking time doesn't mean wasting time

[viscid agate]

True

As long as you keep getting items it's time well spent

[meager niche]

I stick on, optimal full looting, locate the teleporter, loot the opposite area of the teleporter, start the teleporter and then loot the area where the teleporter is, that is how I play.

[frail merlin]

If we used the money we get from tp run could have been so much shorter and even shorter with combat shrine and blood shrine

[dire bane]

I only do that when I'm really trying but I ussally just chill down and loot everything first before tele

[viscid agate]

Yeah you can be sweaty and FC stages in like, 3 minutes but it's not as fun tbh

[meager niche]

[frail merlin]

I usually have a hard time predicting the tp money so I mostly just ends up missing some extra item. Also why I stopped doing that. My run were so much shorter on that time.

[dire bane]

Time isn't so bad where I'm always trying to hyper optimize it

That's what rorr is for

[dire bane]

Ussaly 3-4 chests is what happens early

Like consistantly

[frail merlin]

Rorr scares me, the difficulty scaling is ridiculous in that game especially in multiplayer.

[dire bane]

Merc is broken is rorr he is so funny

[viscid agate]

Rorr is a totally different game yeah I'm trash 💀

[frail merlin]

I’m trash in that game also, can barely beat that game on rainstorm no problem.

[meager niche]

Personally, since I completed eclipse for the first time on the 1.0 update I no longer constantly check the time in game, what I mean is that before I was stuck with the ideology of "5 minutes per stage" but then I started to don't care about it and get all the items in the stage and at that point and forwards, time is not longer in my main priority list when I play.

[dire bane]

I just use the timer to see how long I played for lol I don't corellate it with difficulty

[meager niche]

Exactly

[viscid agate]

I can only beat it with drifter

[frail merlin]

I have other stuff and games to play so I get really upset when I spend 30-70min only to die

[dire bane]

I got a few monsoon wins then I stopped

[viscid agate]

I have 2 difficulties in my head
Below hahaha = easy
Above hahaha = don't get hit!

[dire bane]

Hahaha is just flavor text to me

[viscid agate]

After 1k hours? Damn all the lads I talk to that play this game loads love monsoon

[meager niche]

For me is "Jajajaja" whenever I put back my Xbox on Spanish.

[viscid agate]

Lol

[dire bane]

On rorr after like 30

Ror2 idk how many wins I have but it's alot

[frail merlin]

The profile stats are inaccurate so we will never know😔

[dire bane]

And I play on multiple devices

[meager niche]

For me I believe I have a 40% to 50% win rate in my account, if I have to guess

[dire bane]

Some poeple have like 99%

It's crazy

[meager niche]

Let me guess.

[viscid agate]

Same yeah idk

[viscid agate]

Ahh make sense

[dire bane]

Kirn did it with artifacts I think

[viscid agate]

Mine's 93%

It's not as hard as you might think

[frail merlin]

Most eclipse YouTuber have probably a really high winrate

[viscid agate]

I've heard people saying profile stats are inaccurate though so idk

[viscid agate]

Yeah it's too bad that eclipse is a snoozefest

[dire bane]

Without *( autocorrect moment)

[frail merlin]

Its because the game likes to randomly delete past runs deleting all stats from it

[viscid agate]

Oh weird wtf

[frail merlin]

Pc player have a mod to counteract it tho

[viscid agate]

No wonder it was so easy to get a 93% win rate if all my runs from the past were deleted

[frail merlin]

It’s random so it’s not in any specific order

[meager niche]

I have to check my profile stats in game to see my win rate because I don't know if it counts with or without before the 1.0 update where they added the profile stats, if it counts I believe I may have between 40% to 50% win rate but if it doesn't count I may be higher.

[viscid agate]

Still statistically more likely that older runs are deleted

[frail merlin]

It’s actually straight up random. This is the only video I remember mentioning it but console has had a number of bugs ruining your profile for a while, so yeah. https://youtu.be/5Rot7z2RIis?si=cdv-WT7nIc6scEMQ

[meager herald]

Yeah they def are VERY buggy on console cause there is no way this is right

I have NOT dealt nearly 3 billion damage as Artificer like

[meager niche]

It was a bug during the 1.0 update and anniversary update, basically all damage increase items were reapply through out proc chains, this means that if you have a really long run with a lot of items during those updates It was really easy to achieve an absurd amount of damage.

[meager herald]

I hate that it’s SOOO much like I don’t even play arti that much mannn I’m never passing that

[meager niche]

And the day that you decided to play artificer you reached that 325 minute run and pum, permanent mark on the stats , the only way to fix it is by completely resetting your account.

[thin vale]

Yall dont deal 981 billion damage in a single run?

[meager niche]

Depends on how bored I am, because if you wanted to reach that amount of damage in the previous update Risk of rain 2 just becomes an AFK simulator, especially in the current update now that the double dipping bug is fixed you have to play for longer the AFK simulator mode to get more items to be able to reach that amount of damage.

[pale mountain]

If it doesn't crash before that

[slow pasture]

is anyone here new to gamepass?

[thin vale]

no

[viscid agate]

Older runs have been around for longer they are statistically more likely to be deleted

Because they have been through more deletion cycles

[halcyon tiger]

do the allied void enemies from zoea appear in the logbook on console?

[quartz bay]

no

[meager niche]

Allied void? What is that?

[frail merlin]

[meager niche]

Are you talking about the void item that corrupts the yellow item?
If it's that, that is the last item that I need to get to complete my logbook on Xbox, I see it but I still don't got it, there are there methods to get it.
-die with having a yellow item in your inventory.
-using on the void devastator (the big crab enemy)
-getting a void family event and getting lucky in the teleport event to get it, it's a 10% chance per item dropped in the teleporter.

[halcyon tiger]

I know how to get it. There are 2 Void Reavers, Jailers, and Devastators in the logbook on PC. One is the normal enemy, and one is the allied one you get from zoea

I was just wondering if those allied ones appeared in the logbook on console

[meager niche]

Let me check

[halcyon tiger]

I'm finishing up my logbook and I couldn't find anything about the zoea void enemies for console

[meager niche]

Welp, this is my logbook for the enemies, at the same time it's weird that you need to get the logbooks of the ally version of an enemy.

[halcyon tiger]

ya so you're only missing voidling

[meager niche]

Yep

[halcyon tiger]

it's on PC. idk if you need to collect logbooks for them or if they just appear as soon as you get them as allies

[meager niche]

Interesting.

Another example of the "we want to unite the console version of the game to the PC version" moment

[halcyon tiger]

I miss when we were able to roll pots for a little bit

[sudden plinth]

Can I get help on achievement?

[halcyon tiger]

I wonder why it's harder to fix console stuff/make it the same as PC

[halcyon tiger]

which achievement

[sudden plinth]

The hidden chamber on the aqueduct

[halcyon tiger]

speaking of I miss when we were able to roll pots for a bit lmao

[sudden plinth]

Idk what that means

[halcyon tiger]

on the PC version of the game, you can roll the pots around the aqueduct onto a plate then you stand on the other plate to open the hidden chamber

[sudden plinth]

Ah

I don’t think it’s cross platform. I’ll google

[halcyon tiger]

it's not

otherwise I would have moved to PC already

[meager niche]

Use engineer stationary turrets to press one button and you press the other one and the gates open, or play multiplayer, or use captain and put one beacon in one of the buttons, and yeah right now console doesn't have the pots method available.

[sudden plinth]

Ooohh should have thought of that, Ty

[meager niche]

[halcyon tiger]

bro I was thinking of the loader pylon method

forgot about engi and I didn't even know captain beacons could press buttons

[meager niche]

That one you need to be fast and looking at him (because he is new in the game) he may struggle with that one.

[meager niche]

Now you know.

[halcyon tiger]

ya I know, that was just the only way I thought of when I was thinking about it solo

[meager niche]

There are multiple ways, we can still do it with pots but you need the black hole equipment and be careful with the pot.

it's not that convenient.

[sturdy jay]

And i DID dealt 165 billion damage as heretic. Which is quite cool if you ask me

[somber jasper]

Anyone on Xbox looking to do a run later?

[hot hill]

#lfg-xbox-ror2

[meager herald]

Sigh… I mean, I appreciate the stat buff but like.. why artificer…

Why did I have to slay so hard on artificer

[crisp kestrel]

I’m up

[wispy crypt]

Lost a good run in the most tragic way

Phase 4 mithrix with 2 tesla coils and microbots is evil

Zapped my diablo zapped my hooks of heresy and just murdered me in the blink of an eye

Idk how this has never happened to me before tbh

Considering he will take microbots in every run

[meager niche]

On top of that, Tesla coil is hitting twice so... Double the fun I guess.

[wispy crypt]

Honestly I might consider getting rid of microbots by stage 5 if possible

They dont even do THAT much for the mithrix fight

Looking back at it I may have had a chance of surviving if he didnt proc tenta on me

A teeny tiny chance

[meager niche]

Now that you say it, yeah Maybe it's a good idea to scrap microbots if you don't have a way to skip phase 4 because of the double effects bug.

[quartz bay]

i mean i don't think captains primary is effected by microbots

seems pointless scrapping it

[wispy crypt]

Its not but

Diablo, taser, hooks of heresy and apparently beacons too are affected by it

And in my run I was unfortunate enough to have 2 raps which really fucked my damage output in phase 4

So you get stripped of all your safe options

[quartz bay]

but you still got that primary, simply just use captain's primary till you get microbots back

iirc the mithrix on phase 4 has two health bars, the one you can see and the one that determines when you get items back. as long as you're hitting him you will get items back

[frail merlin]

Good old shotgun will get the job done and I remember micro bots most always being the first item you get back.

[wispy crypt]

They are

Problem was getting them back when mithrix was kitted out with multiple opals and raps and had offensive tools such as shuriken or tesla coil

[pale mountain]

Old ramp camp strats

[wispy crypt]

Problem was the tesla coils

Just couldnt get a good spot where I was mostly safe and was able to aim at mithrix

[pale mountain]

No shot the tesla reaches you up there

[wispy crypt]

Oh right I couldve gone up the pillars

I forgot I had vase

Shit

[frail merlin]

The Tesla range isn’t even that big, the real problem is when you are a melee character.

[soft sonnet]

Anyone having server issues?

[upbeat star]

“Both of commando’s specials are equally useful”
Grenade is 700% damage (albeit with sweet spot dropoff) AoE that procs bands.
Suppressive fire is for stunning clay templars and lunar chimera wisps to not die.

How does anyone actually think suppressive fire is better than grenade other than a very specific niche

Like yeah I probably used suppressive fire horribly

But you can use grenade horribly and still hit the crowd of enemies

[viscid agate]

they dont and if they do kill them

grenade is universally accepted to be the better special

[hot hill]

Wow

[stone cloud]

Will there be a ps5 upgrade for the game?

[upbeat star]

i thought people were still indecisive about it the last i heard because i stopped caring after unlocking grenades because i thought they were cool

but good to know that

i have always considered suppressive fire to be "the poor person's 20 stun grenades"

this is because 20 stun grenades on commando has an 100% chance of proccing on a 1.0 proc coefficient, which double tap has, and thus getting even 4-10 outclasses suppressive fire's stun because it occurs more frequently

[meager niche]

I prefer suppressive fire instead of the nades.

[quartz bay]

why did you only pick up one item and then go to the teleporter

i think grenades vs suppressive fire is more of a personal preference thing

you use grenades because the ror2 youtuber said its better than suppressive

i use gernande because i think its funny when it bounces off a stone golems head

we are not the same

[pale mountain]

Nah

[pale mountain]

There are no servers

[upbeat star]

i literally specified that i thought the grenades were cool and i stopped caring after unlocking them

also i only had 1 item at tp because i had sacrifice on

[frail merlin]

Grenades are a good beetle killer

[meager niche]

See you guys for a time.

[pale mountain]

Hell yeah brother

I'm ringing my elden so hard

[thin vale]

John ring called me

[rigid crypt]

dbfz too holy peak.......

[meager niche]

My brother and I like to play the game.

[meager niche]

🫡

[tribal rover]

Have fun soldier

[wispy crypt]

Adding to the lem quirks
Chronobauble slowness ALSO is permanent on lemurians

What the FUCK

how much more shit is permanent on these guys

[thin vale]

Brain damage

[wispy crypt]

Whatever gearbox did to reduce the rate of enemies clipping into walls
It did not stop mithrix from being able to run off his arena into certain death below

Bless that giant abyss surrounding the tree the arena is sitting on

[frail merlin]

Peak switch performance

[wispy crypt]

Aiming was actual hell I was so glad he jumped off for that phase

[upbeat star]

Bro that happened to me in eclipse multiple times and has been a run saver for me

[quartz bay]

yknow the main console i use is the switch and even i have limits

i took pre sotv switch performance for granted, it wasn't perfect but it was better than the nonexistent fps now

[hot hill]

Dang, I thought it was just me

[wispy crypt]

Yeah usually fps dont bother me in this game because by the time they get bad everything within a mile radius from me dies spontaneously but with barely any homing or on kill things or other shit that reduces the need to aim going down to 4 fps is agony

Those are the fucking rates I used to get by spamming meteorite before the devotion update

[frail merlin]

Solution? enjoy the slide show.

[jaunty nest]

Holy fuck my day has been shot someone please share a cool interaction/item combo

I want it to feel at least somewhat productive

[gleaming owl]

I'm absolutely seething

I've made it to Mithrix TWICE.... AS LOADER... ON MONSOON WITH COMMAND ON BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO UNLOCK THE ALT COSTUME... AND BOTH TIMES DIED

First time, one bad blue pizza hit me

second time... I DIED ON THE PHASE HE TAKES YOUR ITEMS... SO HARD THE GAME DISPLAYED THE 'you died' message THREE TIMES IN THE CHAT

💀 Smashed.💀
💀 Smashed.💀
💀 Smashed.💀

I hate loader

I absolutely do not find this character fun...

I do not get the appeal.

They feel EXTREMELY limited without a god build backing them up

[white quarry]

Unironicly a skill issue

[quartz bay]

just dont get hit

[hot hill]

@gleaming owl I find it easier to just obliterate rather than fighting mithryx. It might be easier for you as well

[meager niche]

Wait, he is complaining about "They feel EXTREMELY limited without a god build backing them up" when all the survivors are the same thing not only loader and he was playing with command artifact where you can choose your items.

[jaunty torrent]

just get royal capacitor and go with that as your main damage lol, thats what i did for the monsoon skins of loader and merc

(technically i used it for every character but we dont talk about that)

[frail merlin]

One more win and I’m done with eclipse.

[proud nymph]

yes, unless somehow theyre picking terrible items

[viscid agate]

That is the biggest skill issue ever lodr is well acknowledged to be the best character in the game by far

[viscid agate]

Yay!

[viscid agate]

Yeah you would be surprised at how many command users don't understand "wait different items do different things??"

[fresh iron]

hello chat

[tribal rover]

Me omw to stack the same item and not spread damage wondering why I am so weak

Tip for loader is to rely on utility as main damage source

[meager niche]

I understand that point but I believe you can't complain about "getting limited by god builds/items" it you are the one choosing the items, like:
I can't win because of bad items.
My bother in Christ, you choose your items.

[frail merlin]

I know it’s been like a hour+ since I did e7 but on my third run I somehow managed to win with this scuffed gas build.
It’s was around 3+ years since I bought ror2 and to be honest I never once enjoyed the bug, maybe I was just coping with all the bugs.

[gleaming owl]

Her utility is strong yes, every enemy and boss in every other scenario crumbled, even mithrix was easy to fight... Im just flabbergasted I have been ONE SHOT to die both my attempts

like, I got one shot by crap I couldn't see coming because she's melee so I'm in range to BE one shot

I just don't like how slow the gameplay feels.

[pale mountain]

Just pick capacitor and zap him from the ramp till he dies during last phase

[frail merlin]

Just forget that loader has a primary, it only serves as a beetle killer anyway.

[quartz bay]

congrats 🥳

you're probably like one of two people who can say they best eclipse on switch lol

[frail merlin]

Eclipse climbers on switch are basically endangered at this point

[hot hill]

Now I'm gonna do eclipse on switch to prove yall wrong

[frail merlin]

Oh yeah forgot about this. The despair I felt when this out of no where bug came to destroy my run.

[quartz bay]

LOL

[quartz bay]

i technically still eclipse climb whenever i play on switch, though ive barely played because of the lag especially on commencement

i could eclipse climb on ps5 but i dont wanna have 2 eclipse climbs

[meager niche]

WTF.

Fire rate getting affected by the fps, nice.

[quartz bay]

ive always been curious how fps dependent this game's mechanics are

[meager niche]

Wait, did you had ?

[frail merlin]

No but I did get the moon lag

[meager niche]

[viscid agate]

Wdym by that

[pale mountain]

Primary Loader mains are cringing rn

[meager niche]

Hey do you guys know if their is crossplay between consoles (like Xbox to switch)

[frail merlin]

I used to think that but there is simply too much many bugs, it’s gonna take a lot of effort to get it to work.

[meager niche]

Darn.

[tribal rover]

don't use the primary to hurt the big baddies that can kill you

[viscid agate]

Oh lol yeah I thought that was obvious

[tribal rover]

The answer may shock you lmao

[meager herald]

Yeah, I generally try and replace it with heretics if I get the opportunity

[normal flame]

does console have cross play with ps4 and xbox

also could steam cross play with the two consoles

[meager niche]

No to both questions

It might be a possibility though, though that's completely unfounded

Some gear box games do have crossplay

And since they have the IP now and not hopoo, I could see them making it crossplay

[normal flame]

yk when or nahh

[sly thorn]

They have never mentioned it once, so no

[pale mountain]

In RoR3

[mighty citrus]

Haven't played this game in a hot minute, any news on the new dlc?

[pale mountain]

Nah

[mighty citrus]

Rip

[celest lynx]

Hi

[pale mountain]

garfileld

[frail merlin]

I’m gonna start dedicating all my future runs to be merc only

[thin vale]

im sorry to hear that

[short iris]

I try to run away. I try to move on, accept my loses with risk of rain and carry onto greater things and yet… console strikes yet again, like the curse of Ra

So close to greatness yet ripped away from me

Not even related to ror2 just venting about console at this point

[thin vale]

nice pfp 'w'

but yeeeeeeeeeah console is just sad

[tribal rover]

Ayo?

[prime sky]

I got Ethereal

[pale mountain]

Man I'm really upset

I tried so hard to explore everything in the elden ring dlc checking every nook and cranny, looked down every cliff and I'm still missing an entire quarter of the map

Including 3 castles and another area.
And it was a memory issue all along I forgor about a path I never finished exploring

[worthy plinth]

Materializing 4 clovers and 12 polylutes into existence using the power of skill, truly amazing

[brisk lark]

did they ever add cross play between xbox/switch?

[wintry ivy]

Nope

[turbid cliff]

Unedited, xbox one, major frame drop happened after 2nd pillar

Im fighting mithrix rn, this is my first time, is there anything i can do to fix it mid run?

I wanna actually beat the game

[meager niche]

The only theory that we have that causes that issue is an interaction between a combination of void items and the lunar chimeras enemies, there is no way to fix it in game once it triggers, just reset your run or get good and play with 1 frame per second.

[turbid cliff]

Thanks for the clarification, ended giving up in phase two 80 minutes into the run

[upbeat star]

Oops

[meager niche]

Same energy.

[old path]

Funny video that makes me want to rip my soul out

[quartz bay]

that fps rips my soul out #rawrXD

[frail merlin]

Yeah… the new map is kinda laggy on switch🥲

Can only imagine how bad it gets on looping if I ever decides to do that.

[pale mountain]

the is laggy on switch

[solar vessel]

Luckily I didn't need them but ego took all 3 of my dios

[frail merlin]

Bdw did they ever fix the music problem for console

[dapper ruin]

Any switch players have a problem with multiplayer? I tried joining a friends lobby and it says "one or more consoles not responding"

We both play on switch

[dapper ruin]

Nevermind ive decided Ill harras nintendo support into issueing a refund later

[thin vale]

it'll be hard to get a refund for the switch ngl

[wispy crypt]

It sort of fixes itself from my experience

[frail merlin]

I meant this

[wispy crypt]

Like it will just occur less and less frequently the more I play for a while (even through game resets)

[wispy crypt]

Oh the absence of the new tracks

Where the hell did they send that

Well good to know that we'll finally get those tracks too in the next update

[frail merlin]

#announcements message

Makes me wonder if this patch will ever come or it’s just included in the dlc like before

[wispy crypt]

Fuck I actually shoulda read that entire message

But really its good to know how transparent they were with that and that they decided to put in placeholders to not have the stage be dead silent

[wispy crypt]

Actually I just remembered

Is it just me or does the squid turret knockback seem way WAYYYYYYYYYY stronger than usual?

Im talking like one singular polyp and turret being able to throw a greater wisp far far away in seconds

[hot hill]

It's not just you

I assumed that was part of the double item effect

[wispy crypt]

Doubled turret knockback

At this point they could literally turn that bug into some feature like an artifact because it literally already covers so many different items

[hot hill]

Or a lunar item

[wispy crypt]

New artifact
Artifact of gluttony: doubled item effects but also doubled enemy spawn credit increase rate

Gearbox take notes

[hot hill]

I'd use it

[quartz bay]

good luck, iirc nintendo doesn't do refunds anymore

[dapper ruin]

Theyve told me theyre not responsible for refunds because the game isnt made or published by nintendo so I sent a support ticket to gearbox directly

I have an email from nintendo confirming that statement

[quartz bay]

i doubt emailing gearbox is gonna do much either

you are just kinda stuck with ror2 on switch

the only time i can think of nintendo doing refunds was for a game called xenon racer, mostly massively false advertising on the eshop
eshop showing pc screenshots then you buy the game and it looked like literal ass was way too scummy

the controversy was sorta big, me and alot of others were able to get refunds

this was like 5 years ago tho

[wispy crypt]

Yeah you literally mark a check that makes you refuse the right to get refunds

[hot hill]

Unfortunately, they can't do that in EU countries

Er, fortunately

[wispy crypt]

They can

[hot hill]

Ah, they are doing it but they are also running afoul with the EU because of it

[old path]

So… artifact of swarms

[wispy crypt]

No

[old path]

[wispy crypt]

Swarms creates a clone of a spawned enemy and halves the health of both

Im talking enemy credits that put even old console to shame

Who doesnt want naturally spawning bosses in stage 3

[old path]

Artifact of Holy crap:
3x credits, and difficulty scaling is twice as fast.

[fleet shoal]

the rorr experience

[old path]

Mountain shrine stage 2? Whoops, overloading magma worm

[frail merlin]

Full looter when they encounter rorr

[old path]

In y’all’s opinion, that stages look the worst on console compared computer.

[hot hill]

As an owner of pc and console version, yes

But I never felt that they were too much worse

[quartz bay]

i mean tbf the switch version kinda has no choice looking worse due to them having to make compromises for it to run on switch

(even though they didn't do a good job at making it run well on switch anyway lol)

[hot hill]

It's playable, at least to me

Not much more than that, though

[languid berry]

is kbm possible on console for ror2?

[quartz bay]

nope

[languid berry]

aw shucks

[frail merlin]

Has anyone manage to do the fling tech on merc because I’m starting to think it’s not possible on console

[meager niche]

Is it where you use the spin secondary on a ramp to get a height boost?

[thin vale]

Or is it the dash exactly inside a hitbox the sent the enemy flying to the wall at mach 3

[meager niche]

Or that one, if it's the one I mentioned now it's possible since the SotV update but the slamming the flying enemies I still have not tested it.

[frail merlin]

I have tried doing it multiple times and it just doesn’t work, works semi fine when I tried it on pc tho.

[meager niche]

Which one?

[dusky rivet]

Slamming vagrant,greater wisp and aloy worship with merc utility dash

[meager niche]

Okay, like I said, I still need to test that one but....

[upbeat star]

Fairly certain it doesn’t work because you just move around them if you dash at them regardless of if you’re at the end of it or just at the start

Also loader’s pylon version likely doesn’t work either

[hot hill]

Are there any issues or problems with the dlc on the switch?

[quartz bay]

all i can really think of is in sulfur pools those bubble explosions dont apply a slow debuff or something like that

its more of the switch version itself having problems than the dlc, like ah yes 2fps per stage

[wispy crypt]

Ye thats pretty much the only thing that really bothers

Even mithrix falling off his arena isnt bad because the giant abyss below makes softlocks from that impossible

[hot hill]

As long as the fps isn't worse than the game without the dlc, then I'm sure I won't be bothered all that much

[wispy crypt]

This is the average fps you get midway through later stages ESPECIALLY the moon

Its actually unplayable

Like lag usually doesnt bother me but when it reaches the singular digits without me having aoe out my ass, hitting shots is gonna be agony

Like 2 fps is not an exaggeration

It DOES go that low

[hot hill]

The DLC makes the fps worse than what the base game is? Because I'd already had that forever and can live with it

[wispy crypt]

Well before the devotion update the dlc didnt fuck my game up that much either

[hot hill]

Yeah, it did seem to get a bit worse. I only really play huntress and engineer so I guess I'm just not as annoyed by it

I don't like the lag but I deal with it

[wispy crypt]

I dont mind lag as long as its "appropriate to the situation"

If I have a fuckton of items then heavy lag isnt an issue because the items counteract it

If I dont have a fuckton of items and get hit by less than 5 fps I dont want to play anymore

[hot hill]

That's entirely valid

But it doesn't sound like any of the new items are going to make play worse so I'll probably grab it when money

[wispy crypt]

The intense lag seems to happen when theres many enemies on the stage

Idk what gearbox did but they did something around enemies that causes a lot of them to be a complete drain on the switch performance

[hot hill]

They did remake the game from the ground up for the console versions so they could release updates and dlc for everything at roughly the same time

Maybe they need to take another look

Railgunner, my beloved, I will have you soon

[frail merlin]

I remember when the moon lag wasn’t so common, now it’s pretty much a 50% every run.

[quartz bay]

will forevee miss pre console dlc fps

i dont take enough copium to stand current switch ror2 negative fps

[granite sail]

God yeah it's awful on the moon

[frail merlin]

Seems like phase 1 is now skippable(this is gonna save so many melee merc runs), now we only need to find a skip for phase 2&3. https://youtu.be/QjqB_aCHtfI?si=2NYlUbF2Zb4taqIC

[meager niche]

The real question is, if it's possible on console.

Test time.

[silent python]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-be-waiting-waiting-impatient-hurry-up-cant-wait-gif-8572334740569538105

[frail merlin]

At this point gearbox should just give console a sandbox mode

[wispy crypt]

It has to

I am going to eat my underwear if console somehow fucks with a simple number problem

Im that confident that its just like pc

[quartz bay]

personally i wouldn't be surprised if it doesnt work lol

[meager niche]

It works, I am waiting for the clip to upload to the cloud of Xbox so I can send it but here is a video I took from my cellphone.

[sly thorn]

: Where tf did you go puny vermin?!?

[meager niche]

And here is the clip, you can see me slowly moving the camera down when I saw mithrix not moving after spawning because of how shocked I was that it works.

[quartz bay]

finally console pc parity has been achieved

[meager niche]

a 80% to 85% parity.

[quartz bay]

true lol

[silent python]

YO! Lets go GGs

[nimble ravine]

yo does anyone know how to get the commando outfit in deadcells ive been trying but the imps keep getting away

[frail merlin]

I remember getting a lucky spot where I just trapped them in a wall

[viscid phoenix]

Anyone wants to play a round of moonsoon on switch?

I need to unlock some skins.

Thank you.

[wispy crypt]

#lfg-switch-ror2 would be the best place to ask

[viscid phoenix]

Thnx

[meager niche]

Well damn ig

[rigid berry]

Tragic

[frail merlin]

Engi final move, becomes the turret.

[wispy crypt]

Wish there was a failsave that kicks in when you fall for idk a minute

[nimble ravine]

hot take, dunestrider, templar and apothecary should be part of a family in the game

[nimble ravine]

role reversal, turrets walk engineer doesnt

[wispy crypt]

I mean they are they just dont have their own family event

[sly thorn]

That’s not a hot take people consider them part of a family

[nimble ravine]

yeah

[nimble ravine]

your right i guess, its like solus’s

[meager niche]

Not a hot take, they canonically are.

[rose bolt]

Hello fellow consolers

[upbeat star]

This is how I am when I fight mithrix most of the time

I only die sometimes

But most of the time I win

[frail merlin]

The mithrix fight for me is only a matter of time until I screw up the pizza and proceed to die.

[quartz bay]

its a okayish fight but personally i never really liked the mithrix fight, alot of my criticisms can be boiled down to providence did it better

providence in 1 was a bit of a pushover, he still got a better phase 2 tho because the gilded wurms are so cool compared to just fighting chimera again, but in returns now that is a final boss

[sly thorn]

Returns Providence at first felt easier than ror1 Prov because he had less shield phases, and then phase 4 started and I was terrified

I will never forget the memory of going “why doesn’t the console work? It should work no- wait is the music getting loud- WHAT THE-”

[quartz bay]

TRUE LOL

[fleet shoal]

There were 2 main points where rorr made me lock the FUCK in
My first time hearing surface tension returns in stage 5
And phase 4 providence

[frail merlin]

The hell did I do to deserve this

[meager niche]

Did you just arrive at stage 4?

[frail merlin]

Yep

[meager niche]

35 minutes on that stage if I remember correctly that are enough credits for the director to spawn a scavenger, that stage can spawn scavengers even before looping.

[frail merlin]

The problem is that the scavenger has Tesla coil and I’m playing melee merc

Later it picked up some medkit and psg, meaning I had 10 second to do like a fourth of it health to deal real damage

[wispy crypt]

Yeah that blue circle is something you never want to see around an enemy

[hot hill]

psg?

[pale mountain]

Tesla

[hot hill]

How do you get psg out of unstable tesla coil?

[meager niche]

Personal shield generator.

[hot hill]

Ah

[wind mural]

I Just got the ethereal achievement after 520+ hours on risk of rain 2

I'm so happy

[coral timber]

Congrats man that one took me a long time to do

[wind mural]

Thx man

Tbh today's challenge was a perfect combo of artifact

[frail merlin]

I remember cheesing it with kin (beetle only) and then blue portal

[wind mural]

In fact, even today's one has kin with beetle

Plus command and swarm

[frail merlin]

Nice

[wind mural]

This Merc skill was really worth it

It's so fun to use

[sturdy jay]

Mul-t rebar puncher is very balanced

[hollow furnace]

gup!!!

[viscid agate]

shoulda gone faster

[frail merlin]

Drizzle scaling is crazy, only lvl 28 after 46 min+9 stages.

[rapid blaze]

And also so few items after 9 stages

After I loop just once I feel like I have so many

And also inefficient usage of essence

Or it might not matter

More stacks means more damage but I guess all at once vs one at a time doesn't matter as long as they all go off

[frail merlin]

I don’t think it’s so little item, he was only 45 min in the run after all.

[quartz bay]

why 12 lysates you dont need 12 lysates 😭

well ig it doesn't really matter because drizzle command lol

[solar vessel]

Bruh I just lost a eclipse run to some bug

[tribal rover]

Lmaoooo what the fuck is this game

[viscid agate]

certified ror2 classic

[delicate cave]

railgunner particle accelerator

[sturdy jay]

Ruin skill resets rebar cooldown when activated

[sturdy jay]

I was only testing if it works

[thin vale]

@unique yoke suspicious link

[quartz bay]

rebar can be easily reset constantly if you got double rebar and 1 soilder syringe lol

[upbeat star]

Or if you time it correctly you can just get the same speed effect as one syringe, but the syringe allowing full auto max speed is easier

[quartz bay]

yea

[wispy crypt]

This rarely happens on some stages such as this one

A little surprised it hasnt been patched yet but with how rare it is to come across it shouldnt impact your runs too much

I did experience it myself once but somehow got pushed back on stage after a few seconds

[wispy crypt]

Im on versant falls rn havent activated the tp yet and uhm
The music just sorta ended and restarted after 3 minutes of complete silence

I love bandolier

[coarse skiff]

hey guys

im on a 2 and a half hours run

should i obliterate or risk mithrix

[wispy crypt]

I mean after 2.5 hours I doubt mithrix is gonna be a challenge as long as you mostly know what youre doing

[coarse skiff]

yeye i have a good proc build

thanks ill give it a try

[meager niche]

Huh.. I’ve actually had this exact bug in that spot happen with a lemurian.
I’ll get the video in ~30 minutes

[soft warren]

Railgunner bout to be sent to the back rooms

[meager niche]

No questions.

[pale mountain]

Very cool

[neon pewter]

how do i use kbm on ps5, just trying to plug it in does not work, any otehr way to do it?

[quartz bay]

m&k dont work with this game unfortunately

[vocal kelp]

When does seekers of thr storm come to console?

[viscid agate]

gearbox is aiming to have pc and console release together iirc

we'll see if that's possible though\

[wispy crypt]

Regarding the lem debuff bug

Its now also happened with the void fog visual debuff and tar so Im assuming lems just get permanently afflicted by absolutely any debuff

Maybe not ones with damage involved and of course collapse since that implodes itself

[dusky canyon]

any crossplay updates???

[quartz bay]

no

[south girder]

At this point we need a big pinned message saying

NO CROSSPLAY

[white quarry]

No, and absolutely no plans for it

[wispy crypt]

The amount of bugs crossplay would create would be wayyyyy too insane for it to be worth the time and effort

Even the steam and epic games store crossplay that exists is bad

[dusky rivet]

Anything that gearbox does to console will create bugs

[dusky canyon]

yet another promise never to be fulfilled😭

[sweet edge]

they never promised crossplay

[wind mural]

Least strange ror2 console bug

[pale mountain]

Efficient

[pure oracle]

Is it just me or does the multiplayer on console just only work sometimes?

[meager niche]

If you can even find a game lmao

[pure oracle]

It’s an infinite loading screen

[mighty citrus]

Hello fellow console players, I have returned to the game, 'risk of rain 2' and have been playing again

The eclipse grind truly never stops

With the new dlc hopefully coming early next year I was gonna try and finish some characters e8

[meager niche]

Good luck

[mighty citrus]

Thank you pal 🙏

Im honestly desperate for rorr on ps and xbox

I can't play it anymore cause I sold my switch :\

[vague trail]

Cross play pleeeeeaaassee

[leaden aspen]

does anyone know if you can h0st skip on console?

[meager niche]

It is not possible but you can do a new tech on console with a head stompers and hopoo feather and some movement speed increase, basically because of the extra height jump that head stomper has on console you can do a skip involving the items I just mentioned, the idea is apply the extra height jump of head stomper to the hopoo feather jump, the way to do this I by making th hopoo feather jump being the first jump, so you can fall down and then jump in the middle of the air with the hopoo feather and you will get a really high jump of head stomper, so you can do this trick to skip like this.
-First go to where the blood pillars are, do the tech and reach the ceiling of the structure where the blood pillars are.
-second do the tech on the structure of where the blood pillars are to reach under the mythrix arena and take one of the ramps.
-do the tech once again on the ramps under the arena and you will skip pillars and reach mythrix arena.

[quartz bay]

id say dont count on other console ports anytime soon, the devs cant even publish updates due to gearbox recently being bought by take two interactive
#risk-of-rain-returns message

[wispy crypt]

To add onto this alternatively instead of falling first you can instead press jump for a single frame which stores the stomper boost until you press jump again (seen as the small push upwards I got midair in this clip)

That small boost gets more effective the more vertical momentum you already have which lets you do huge jumps with things like a feather or jump pads

[pale mountain]

Gonna be ez on the switchs 2 fps

[wispy crypt]

I mean thats just the framerate