ror2-console-discussion

[astral mesa]

how do i describe that
shattered?

[round vale]

Queue takes forever

[rustic tendon]

Agree

[quartz bay]

i genuinely wouldn't be surprised if gearbox doesn't update the game till seekers of the storm drops

even then i wouldn't be surprised if they delayed the new dlc on consoles lol

[twin igloo]

We got the dlc

The dlc and games works much better than it used to

👍

[lavish sage]

Loaders slam still wrecks my ears

Aka dont use loaders slam yall

[dusky rivet]

I dont play with sounds

[lavish sage]

Lucky yuou

[dusky rivet]

But i would probably turn on sounds if they actually let me adjust my setting anf fix the damn glitchy music

[twin igloo]

Wandering vagrant when no sound

And spawns and gunmers and stuff like that

The game's a little harder in certain scenarios when there's no sound

[dusky rivet]

I multitask while playing ror2 so i either watch a playthrough or a serie while playing grinding eclipse or something

Probably makes the game much harder but after a year or something of doing it i have basically mastered no sound ror1

[twin igloo]

Dann

It doesn't do that much once you muscle memory things but

[upbeat star]

Ahhh, free at last.
I return.

How’s everyone been doing?

I need a reason to play ror 2

I’ve completed the logbook entirely too

[frail merlin]

There only one reason to play ror2 and that’s gup

[upbeat star]

[covert moat]

Why does rex make me want to die. I hate his primary more than engi

Actual f tier character

[frail merlin]

Seems like you aren’t enough of a masochist if you are saying that

[brave beacon]

you’re primary isn’t all too powerful, but what is powerful is your secondary

usually seed barrage is my main source of damage

and then your special ensures extra damage and makes you very hard to kill during bosses

[covert moat]

Yes but e8. Seed barrage and tangling growth cause perma damage. Youre basically forced to pick directive drill and use your special only a couple times a stage

Healing being halved doesnt help.

...I just really despise this whole survivors kit

[brave beacon]

oh yeah he is not fun there lmao

rex as a character uses his health as an important resource that you need to properly manage, and he can’t do that there

[covert moat]

I miss using his good abilities. I hopped into a monsoon run and he was somewhat enjoyable. Directive abilities highly just need a buff

[frail merlin]

You shouldn’t rely on his secondary and just learn how to use the primary

[covert moat]

Gotta love only being able to use half my kit bc garbox hates e8 rex. Also, imo i dont think his primary deserves to be so mid. Give it a 1.0 proc

[zealous aspen]

gearbox didn't even make eclipse did they

but anyways yeah eclipse for rex sucks because it essentially railroads you off away from using the characters main gimmick

[covert moat]

Nah ig ur right but i think hoppo said they wanted to change how the two interract (e8 and rex self dmg)

Gearbox just hasnt gotten to it bc e8 isnt a major priority

[nimble ravine]

she risk on my rain till i proc coefficient

[river prism]

I like rex a lot

He goes crazy with a team run

Either of his specials are so nice

[frail merlin]

I wonder if that opinion would be the same if you tried eclipse

[river prism]

Good point

I haven't tried eclipse at all actually, I should hop in a run today

[covert moat]

Whats a rex special? All i know is free curse stacks

[river prism]

Snap

Sounds painful

[pliant olive]

Dumb question. I'm on Switch, is SotV worth it? Because it seems cool, really. But apparently it makes weird, unfixed stuff even worse? I haven't had many if any issues, other than annoying stuff like logbook not working right...

[frail merlin]

Double fall damage and enemies clipping through the floor that’s the important glitches

[pliant olive]

Wait, the DLC actually ADDS glitches? And they're that bad? I thought it was just temporary stuff, or some kind of joke...

To clarify, I don't have the DLC, just on the fence.

[frail merlin]

Double fall damage is not dlc a certain dlc enemy clip through the floor a lot but I can’t really remember any glitches the dlc add so it’s only minor bugs

The dlc apparently makes the game lag a lot on xbox and ps but for switch it doesn’t really matter

But I do think the dlc is worth it even if it isn’t as perfect as pc it’s still a fun expansion of the game if you really like ror2 you will probably like the dlc as well

[pliant olive]

To be fair, I'm used to things not being as perfect as PC. Comes with the console territory. And I haven't noticed fall damage being super bad in base game... And even though I'm not skilled, the game is REALLY fun! I got addicted enough to get everyone but Acrid and Captain so far, so...

[frail merlin]

Avoiding fall damage is part of a skill so at least we can easily play around the glitch

[pliant olive]

Yeah. Like, only a handful of characters don't have some kind of mobility that negates fall? Even then, it's only even fatal with Frailty. On high difficulties, incredibly frustrating, yes. But not like, making the game unplayable level of bad.

And so long as the game is consistently playable and still fun, glitches aren't so bad. No such thing as a perfect game, after all!

[compact jay]

Where do we use uh

The keys… the void keys I mean
I’ve never used one before

Like what it’s look like, the cache

Also what’s the shipping request drop pod look like

[nimble ravine]

you should try pick up the funny lunar beetle as him

[river prism]

already have

[compact jay]

Nvm got to use a key - it’s a purple orb
Ok so I still don’t know what the shipping request is 😂

That’s not the on fire pods is it

[worthy plinth]

Wait, in theory, wouldn't stealthkits be best on engie instead of the other characters

Cause his turrets can't really dodge (and mobile turrets can't dodge that well) meaning he gets the most value out of them

[compact jay]

Not necessarily since stealth kits don’t automatically mean nothing attacks you. They just lose current sight of you

Turrets don’t move, unless mobile, so they’re sitting ducks regardless

[worthy plinth]

Fair enough, but it's still might be enough to argue for keeping one stack instead of instantly plummeting it into a scrapper

[compact jay]

Maybe
He does have drop shield which is sufficient in most scenarios

Captain has arguably nothing aside from healing pod- which is a one time use

[worthy plinth]

Bubble shield?

[compact jay]

Engineer has one yeah

[worthy plinth]

Bubble shield isn't a thing my friend. You grab harpoons and forget about bubble shield for the rest of time

Cause bubble shield is one of the worst abilities in the game

[compact jay]

And this is why you need defense items as an engineer

No it isn’t lol- it’s very useful

[worthy plinth]

Enemies just walk inside of the shield, make you walk out, and now you can't shoot inside

[compact jay]

Yeah if you don’t kill enemies before they get to you
Sure late game it’s arguably not as good but it’s still useful

[worthy plinth]

No

Bubble shield has never been better than harpoons, even with hardlight

[compact jay]

When you have a ton of mason jar boyos throwing spike balls at you or greater wisps trying to 1 tap you, or a titan locks onto you ….

Id say that’s fairly useful lol

[worthy plinth]

What you do is you move left or right

[compact jay]

Imagine thinking that because you can move the shield is useless

[worthy plinth]

This is a thing called dodging and it's a very useful thing that all survivors have

[compact jay]

Yeah but you’re arguing the shield is useless because you don’t use it/like it.
That’s an opinion.

Which is ironic considering shield + fungus is a great combo

[worthy plinth]

No, shield just doesn't do anything. Enemies just walk inside and contest it, every engineer main knows this and every engineer main considers it one of the worst abilities in the game

[compact jay]

I’m fairly confident that not every main despises drop shield.
May not be the popular choice but I am doubtful it is resented to the extent you claim

[worthy plinth]

"Wow it blocks ranged projectiles" real useful when your turrets are both dead from the elder lemurian that decided to press w into your shield

When you're not only giving up engineer's primary means of he himself doing damage that isn't turrets, alongside the fact that it can be turned against you and you should never be standing still in a fight, it's absolutely one of the worst abilities in the game

[compact jay]

idk man I do just fine with it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Not a pro engineer by any means. But I don’t do bad with it

[worthy plinth]

You do you, if it works for you it works, but harpoons are still just way better

[pale mountain]

Does aoe damage still just go through shields or was that an old thimg

[forest pumice]

Only thing shield is good for is it's really funny if you have a squad of shield engis and you have like 6+ turrets in your shields

[quartz mirage]

8 turrets and 12 shields cuz everyone has hardlight afterburner. Good times

[pliant olive]

Just beat the game, first time, Switch. 1: Hot damn, game's a PowerPoint presentation now! 2: ...and so it left, ready to recharge. Getting chills, man. Just... Wow, that's a good way to end 2-3 loops!

[quartz bay]

ill say it the ending dialogue in ror2 isnt as good as in ror1 and returns

[torn fossil]

your ship getting taken down and fighting for your survival is a lot better of a setup for the ending dialogue than a regular rescue mission

[frail merlin]

Slightly delusional bubble shield user

[quartz bay]

next to lights out, bubble sheild is one of the worst abilities in the game imo

especially compared to the alt ability

[pale mountain]

Probably made by the same dev that made Railgunners slowing field alt smh

[dusky rivet]

I forgot that ability even existed also light out isnt that bad just a downgrade compared to other bad ability

[gritty fog]

Desperado is really strong

[dusky rivet]

Yep

[twin igloo]

Who tf is this bubble shield guy that loves harpoons too much lmao

Yes harpooms is better, doesn't mean you can't use bubble shield it does stuff

I just wished I remembered to use it

[pale mountain]

If it blocked aoe it would be usable, but last time I used it if an elder shot fireballs at it I would still get blasted while inside the shield

Unless they hopefully fixed that, I don't remember if that's a bug or just shitty design

[dusky rivet]

To put it simply its unreliable and unsafe to use making you stand still in a small circle which cant even block everything is risky

[zealous aspen]

yeah there's a lot less emotional weight because beyond mithrix's lore ror2 is way lighter in tone

because you're willingly there and you're having a blast and you don't care that much that you're killing a bunch of monsters

[dusky rivet]

The real victim was all the beetle we commited genocide om

[quartz bay]

the only really cool ror2 end dialogue are acrids and void fiends

acrids is so depressing and void fiends is kinda funny

[forest pumice]

Wait ror2 has end dialogues on console now??

[wispy crypt]

Captain's are also rather funny because of how uniquely chill they are being just about telling tales or not having to do infinite paper work

[timber pagoda]

has anyone being having connection issues recently? feels like my friends and i are constantly disconnecting from each others private games and then not being able to get back in

[pale mountain]

That's normal console stuff

[timber pagoda]

🗿

This is not great news grunch

[jolly bridge]

Hi all just got game an new to it. I play on Xbox if anyone down to add. An btw I can't find anyone to play with online for quickplay

[gritty fog]

#lfg-xbox-ror2

[jolly bridge]

Ok

[crystal sable]

Idk if Switch counts for this channel, but Finally did Monsoon with Void Fiend yesterday

[pale mountain]

Course it counts

[jolly bridge]

Just got the game an dlc on series x. Liking it so far.

[zealous aspen]

they and heretic have like the coolest dialogues because they're more akin to rorr/1's ending quotes in tone ya

[pliant olive]

So, I apparently just GOT something with a 1/4000 chance to exist? Her Biting Embrace. I was just trying to get Commando: Godspeed with Kin...

[gritty fog]

yeah its the rarests thing that can happen

[pliant olive]

Kin just BACKFIRED. Stage 5, it's all Elder Lemurians... Right after I laughed at their small, purple cousins in Sundered Grove, too.

[tacit forge]

aspects are rare and pretty cool, it's really unfortunate that they're not better than normal equipment or just the fact they take an equipment slot is a shame

still fun to see the looks of the survivors as elites

[frail merlin]

Overloading and fire is pretty good

[tacit forge]

last one i had was the perfected aspect from the moon as Acrid

blue dog was cool, didn't keep it though

[pliant olive]

So, question about Commando's challenges. 1: How viable is 20 stages without a SINGLE Lunar? Focused Convergence is usually very useful for these "long haul" runs... 2: Is the Overloading Worm just sheer luck? I've only ever encountered like, one. 3: Is Commando "good"? I don't really know what I'm doing, but the faster but more basic kit seems sorta fun.

[frail merlin]

Commando is good if you have spent a lot of hours In the game making it not so popular with beginners, lunar items are no problem and overloading worm is luck if you play on monsoon you will get it easier but after like 20+ stages try doing some combat shrine and mountain shrine

[tacit forge]

all survivors are good, lunar items aren't necessary for a great run they're pretty small things

[pliant olive]

I am terrified of Monsoon. All my runs are on Drizzle because I am VERY bad at this game...

[tacit forge]

you'll get into it eventually

[frail merlin]

A future command player is what I’m seeing

[tacit forge]

i suggest moving up to rainstorm tbh, it's the normal game experience and easier to prepare for monsoon

move down to drizzle when you wanna unlock items and survivors or whatever else but rainstorm for getting used to the game before monsoon

stage 1 of one of my artificer runs on monsoon, it's basically just asking you to play faster and/or be better at the basics of the game

[pliant olive]

The Artifact? Already have it, and use it pretty much every run.

[frail merlin]

Ah its to late

[tacit forge]

yeah you should do a lot of runs without it too

command is the only artifact that is strictly beneficial and actually kinda de-roguelikes this game

[pliant olive]

If I run without it, I am in the merciless grip of the RNG gods.

[tacit forge]

well yeah

that's part of the roguelike experience

either you get a good run and feel amazing or you get a bad run and have to either push through it until the good kicks in or die

[frail merlin]

Command delays improvements quite a lot in this game

[frail merlin]

Also If you wanna flex you are good at the game you have to pull out this

[pliant olive]

If no Command, is Sacrifice worth it? I have a hard time seeing on some stages, which makes chests a hassle. And it would mean I could spend on drones and turrets.

[tacit forge]

two very different examples of my run in ror2

[frail merlin]

Pain and suffering is the best learning method in this game

[tacit forge]

most people in this server basically dont care how you unlock your items or survivors, difficulty artifacts whatever but it is a somewhat rough topic if you're not actually trying to learn the game

so basically yeah artifacts are cool but also try a little to learn the game without any

[frail merlin]

I might hate sacrife more than command just cause it takes away a major part of the game and makes it a mindless killing game

[pliant olive]

Well, I suggest Sacrifice as a way to skirt around disability... And what's a good "beginner" character to learn with? Have all base game characters.

[tacit forge]

honestly just pick whoever looks cool and if you like how they play try sticking with it

[frail merlin]

Except Rex

[tacit forge]

they all got their strengths and falloffs

[tacit forge]

getting around a disability is cool, dont think anybody really should care if it's for that reason

[pliant olive]

What's bad about Rex? The whole self-damage gimmicks?

[tacit forge]

he's fine but in eclipse 8 he kinda doesn't perform good

[frail merlin]

It’s just straight up not beginner friendly

[tender rampart]

Engineer is pretty chill if you place turrets in good places. You can turn them into healing spots with the mushroom as well

[tacit forge]

if anything ig he teaches to be comfortable with losing health?

but also aim to not take damage

[pliant olive]

Ah yes, the almighty Bungus strats.

[frail merlin]

He’s slow and not the ideal damage output

Really hard to get good with and generally not the most fun character like everyone say a character for masochist

[tacit forge]

i still definitely wouldn't say he's the "worst" survivor but yeah not as beginner friendly as the others

[tender rampart]

@pliant olive The first time I noticed what happened I knew I'd stumbled onto something beautiful ☺️

[tacit forge]

huntress fits the worst pretty well tbh, but i still love playing her a lot

[pliant olive]

When it comes to characters that require aim, I usually find myself gravitating to MUL-T. Captain is also interesting.

[frail merlin]

Never said it was the worst but if there was some kind of poll for worse survivors Rex is definitely getting first

[tacit forge]

a lot of people kinda shit on him here as a joke-ish but i might try to do a run or two as Rex to grab some clips for whenever he's mentioned

[pliant olive]

Get N'ukhaha(?)'s Opinion, Bungus strats are just free damage!

[tacit forge]

i do pretty fine with Rex but he's just not my style

[frail merlin]

It will work until a eclipse climbers appears

[tacit forge]

eclipse is kinda disgusting anyways i dont really mind

monsoon but maybe the way it should've been as default

[frail merlin]

Just saying eclipse makes monsoon looks like drizzle

The dlc made it so much easier tho pre dlc it has literally a hell hole

[tender rampart]

It just tickles my the druid part of my brain, what can I add to make it more druidic? I haven't gotten that item yet x.x

[frail merlin]

[worthy plinth]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who wants to go back to the times when I first started playing ror2

When I first started playing ror2, that was the most fun shit ever, I was playing for hours and hours every day bro

I had 50 or so hours within a week

I was absolutely no lifing that shit and I don't regret a second of it

[pliant olive]

Okay, first real run wasn't absolutely garbage, I'm assuming. Stage 5, Rainstorm. Failed an Elder Lemurian's vibe check. How come it's ALWAYS one of them?

[worthy plinth]

Rex has a higher skill requirement than most survivors and he isn't even good on eclipse. He's stuck in the position of too hard to be good for beginners and too shit to be played at the highest level.

A good player can absolutely shred with him on monsoon, but you could do that with any other character as well

[pliant olive]

However, it was almost... fun? Getting in position, slapping down a turret. Seeing what's good for printers and multi-shops. Actually feeling like I just might be able to loop!?

And death didn't feel cheap. Just a LOT of shit onscreen.

[worthy plinth]

I mean, being a casual shitter on command half the time didn't really stop me from beating e8, but everyone's experience is different and I've only beaten e8 on one character so I can't really say much. All I know is I'm probably an engineer one trick at this point.

[frail merlin]

There nothing wrong on hating command no actually it’s the right thing to say

[frail merlin]

Also I prefer just playing more passive than the beginner phases where I was blasted by all ror2 stuff at least I avoided command but when I started grinding eclipse that was the peak of it now I’m stuck grinding characters I don’t really like

[worthy plinth]

Bro I'm stuck over here wanting to switch to a different character to grind to e8 on but feeling obligated to continue the rex grind

It's why I haven't played eclipse in a good couple weeks now

[frail merlin]

I just started playing terraria instead of playing ror2

But grinding one character at a time is pretty painful I usually just switch between 2-3 characters and switch between them whenever I’m bored currently I was doing Rex,captain and multi

[worthy plinth]

I absolutely loved my engineer grind, but rex feels like a chore

[frail merlin]

Still better than playing articer

[worthy plinth]

Artificer is fun up until you fly 200 ft in the air and learn that the tp doesn't favor ion surge

[frail merlin]

Literally my least played character I don’t think I even done 30+ runs with her just don’t like the playstyle

[worthy plinth]

My least played character is probably void fiend

I don't even hate playing him, I just never got around to playing him

[frail merlin]

Kinda unfair as he a new character but I did play so much railgunner that she got a nice 10% of times picked

[worthy plinth]

Dude if rex didn't take permadamage from his abilities, I know fully well I'd absolutely love his eclipse grind as well

It's just that specifically his eclipse loadout is a pain in the ass and I hate it

[frail merlin]

The e5 prevent his masochist builds pretty well tho

[worthy plinth]

Fair but I'd at least have access to his root

[frail merlin]

And I think people focus a bit to much on e8 and ignore he’s literally a snail in disguise

[worthy plinth]

I was about to say it's better than engineer, but I remembered that he doesn't run that often

Not while in combat at least

[frail merlin]

Yeah and the fact you have to focus on aim more than other characters while also having to dodge in a walking stage is quite brutal

[worthy plinth]

Engineer is honestly more mobile than people think just because 99% of time spent in combat is charging your primary, and the other 1% is wiggling your screen to get harpoons out

[frail merlin]

Engi can basically shoot while running so not really a problem

[worthy plinth]

Yeah

He might as well have the agile stat on his primary

Cause it really doesn't change anything other than a single key press

[frail merlin]

Well it helps you improve at doing it on characters that is the same (secondary)

[worthy plinth]

With engineer I could very easily stay inside of the tp for most of the entire charging sequence, but with rex I can't do that shit

[frail merlin]

Tbh Rex runs are quite rng based if you don’t get the right items you won’t survive for long especially with movement based item

[worthy plinth]

The only thing rex has over engie is the fact that he doesn't need healing items as much and he had a fall damage clutch ability

[frail merlin]

It’s not like healing really matters on e8 anyways

[worthy plinth]

And even then it's not that good at clutching fall damage compared to basically any other ability that does the same

[vale wedge]

hey does everyone hate artificer

[worthy plinth]

Yeah it doesn't lol

[frail merlin]

I don’t hate her just straight up don’t play her

[worthy plinth]

I like arti, but she's definitely not my main

[frail merlin]

Merc might be taking the new spot as my main instead of commando

Much more fun character

[worthy plinth]

But no, for e8, practically the only items that matter are
Damage
Mobility
Opal
Void teddy bear

Sure that's an exaggeration but still

[frail merlin]

Damage>mobility>healing that’s how I thinks when picking up item

[worthy plinth]

You could get away with having only 1 slug for your healing

[worthy plinth]

It depends on the character

Mobility is absolutely not an issue for loader, but on captain, you have a god run if you find a feather

[frail merlin]

Yeah it depends on what damage item and what character but I usually prefer playing fast characters

[worthy plinth]

For a good amount of characters, you're absolutely taking an atg over a feather

[frail merlin]

Can’t go wrong with a atg

[worthy plinth]

But to be fair, it's a difficult choice even on engineer

"Do I take no fall damage or do I get a crap ton more damage"

I normally go with the feather, but only after I searched the stage and made sure there's no credit cards lying about

[frail merlin]

Depends on your items you have currently if you have decent damage and low mobility pick up the feather or reversed

But I don’t really think hoopoo feather as a fall damage cancel and more like a dodging item

[worthy plinth]

Hopoo feather is also good for dodging, but it still comes in clutch for the times where I'm a complete dumbass

"Thank god I had a hopoo feather after that clay templar threw me off the map"

[frail merlin]

I am extremely cautious when it comes to falls damage so it’s been a long while since I died to fall damage

[worthy plinth]

Knockback is a bitch and I've had many learning moments

[frail merlin]

But the 3x knockback glitch on old console was sure something else

That glitch forcible teaches me some stuff

[worthy plinth]

I never knew that was a glitch until someone pointed that out to me, I thought knockback for a good while was how the game was supposed to be like and was wondering why it felt like they nerfed knockback

[frail merlin]

Yeah it made wisp so damn annoying

I’m thankful that it got patched and not combined with the double fall damage

[worthy plinth]

Double fall damage fucking sucks

Not to mention geysers can't be trusted anymore

[frail merlin]

For me it’s equally as dangerous as the knockback glitch so I just treated it the same way

Still so weird how they let double fall damage get released with the dlc

[worthy plinth]

Gearbox can't stop fucking up the console port

[frail merlin]

Gearbox never fails to disappoint us with new and unique bugs

But the fact people genuinely believed that gearbox was gonna give us a pc quality console port to the point they believed cross play was gonna be possible is truly tragic

[worthy plinth]

Bro I just found a new bug

I've never seen this shit

[meager niche]

[worthy plinth]

You know that 1 geyser in wetland aspect that's sometimes blocked off

The tp spawned right next to it and a wandering vagrant is stuck behind it because it's the variant that blocks off the geyser

So I'm softlocked on stage 2

[meager niche]

Oh....

[woven pelican]

Does the second bit of fall damage applied do the same amount? (Doubling fall damage?)

[meager niche]

Yes, same amount.

[woven pelican]

Actually brutal

E4+ and trimping gonna suck

[meager niche]

E3 and above, basically quadruple fall damage.

[compact jay]

Anyone got spare drone parts and/or the newly hatched zoea item (on Xbox)

I wanna unlock them but I’m having really terrible luck lol

[compact jay]

Just need the zoea now- got the drone parts

[worthy plinth]

And the worst part about it is that it pierces right through your safer spaces

It ensures that console mfs can't do host skip unless we got headstompers

[compact jay]

Zoea acquired

[void acorn]

if they die you better watch your back

[compact jay]

Why, explosion has friendly fire I assume?

[void acorn]

yeah

it is a pretty cool itemthough i will admit

[compact jay]

I would expect nothing less lol

All I have left is voidling log

God knows when I’ll get that

[weary hull]

aynone else get constant frame drops on ps5? is there way to fix this?

[pale mountain]

Waiting for the patch

[frail merlin]

Plot twist the patch isn’t real

[pale mountain]

Waiting for RoR3

[compact jay]

I don’t want to learn another game

I just want knockback bug fixed lol

[meager niche]

It's fixed

[frail merlin]

We basically have a replacement bug for it tho

[worthy plinth]

If only the zoea didn't corrupt all yellows, giving up spleens and perfs is a very high cost

And even to an extent empathy cores

But I'm biased towards those as an engineer player

[frail merlin]

Ok hear me out = =

[worthy plinth]

Watch one blow up and the entire rest of the map gets nuked

[frail merlin]

It will probably be fine

[wispy crypt]

I mean your turrets gain zoea too so 3-4x the amount of allies youd normally get

Wait no 2-3x

[frail merlin]

Weird how only zoea works on engi

[wispy crypt]

Nevermind 3-4x

So yeah engi can triple or even quadruple his void allies through turrets

[worthy plinth]

Everything is good on engie so it's not surprising

[frail merlin]

At least let the turret use beetle 3-4x beetle would be funny

[worthy plinth]

Except some stuff like backup mags or infusions

[wispy crypt]

Soulbound catalyst

[frail merlin]

And a bunch of lunar items

[worthy plinth]

Soulbound isn't half bad on engie, it allows him to pick up lysate cells without having to have the downside of a long ass equipment cooldown (unless you're in commencement)

And I don't really use lunar items so gesture isn't an option

[frail merlin]

Brainstalk being a very expensive bandolier for engi

[worthy plinth]

Yeah pretty much

[frail merlin]

If the land mine didn’t have a limit it would probably be decent tho

[worthy plinth]

Although brainstalks does allow you to just slam mobile turrets down in a sticky situation to take out whatever threat you need killed, meanwhile without it your mobile turrets are fucking off to narnia and beyond

It's best paired with lysate cells

[frail merlin]

You still have to kill a elite to activate it which is pretty annoying

[worthy plinth]

Fair, but elite lesser wisps, beetles, lemurians, etc. Shouldn't be too hard to come by

[frail merlin]

Well I can imagine some situations where the game doesn’t spawn any

[worthy plinth]

Yeah

Still probably taking a bandolier over either brainstalks or alien head, but both reds do better on engie than any other character

[frail merlin]

Wait did you just say brainstalk and alien head does better on eng compared to other characters i

[wispy crypt]

Id argue brainstalks and alien heads are good on captain

[frail merlin]

[worthy plinth]

Idk engie just has the longest cooldowns aside from diablo captain lol

[wispy crypt]

Brainstalks cuz funny diablo spam and alien head because both a 10 second cd reduction on diablo and a 1 second cd reduction on taser which lets it perma stun an enemy

[frail merlin]

Mentioning the secondary was a mistake that thing is a waste of brainstalk

[wispy crypt]

Diablo alone carries the brainstalks value

Thats 4 diablos in quick succession from just an elite kill

[frail merlin]

I don’t need 5+ Diablo that just over kill

[worthy plinth]

Secondary is only there to prevent enemy attacks as a sort of ranged parry, not to be used with brainstalks

[wispy crypt]

Spread em out

And I meant the taser for alien head specifically

Its not good with the stalks

[frail merlin]

You still need to gather enemies in the Diablo and doing 5 is not possible

[worthy plinth]

Still

[frail merlin]

It barely lowers the cooldown of the secondary

[wispy crypt]

But just enough to make it perma stun things which can help if youre trying to get away from elite elder lemurians and the such or if theres one while you fight a boss

That one second matters more than on most other characters

[frail merlin]

I rather dodge than having to keep stunning a single target until it dies when a third party can spawn any times to distract you

[wispy crypt]

Just think about it

[frail merlin]

Already did

[wispy crypt]

Tp event you fight 3 xi constructs and an overloading elder lemmy comes along

It basically becomes a reusable single target shocking beacon

Like id rather have one second cd reduction on taser where it improves its potential by quite a bit than on say bandit where the cd reduction can barely even be felt

[frail merlin]

Also it’s not long cooldown that determine what’s character is good on brainstalk and alien head it’s how much you spam everything except your primary it’s great on and because you can spam the boomerang and merc special

[wispy crypt]

Yes and spamming diablo is extremely effective to wipe the entire stage

[worthy plinth]

Some people can argue that brainstalks and alien head are better on certain characters than on engie, but captain ain't it

You could argue anybody, you could argue thunder gauntlet loader, merc, huntress, etc.

[frail merlin]

So you are supposed to stun the lemerian until you die and ignore the other enemies

[wispy crypt]

Maybe this is just multiplayer bias but for me the diablo spam does absolute wonders especially in the tp event

[frail merlin]

Wisp💀 you use brainstalk Diablo to kill wisp now that’s overkill

Oh nvm I read that wrong

Wipe = wisp

[wispy crypt]

Just gotta do it once every 5 seconds or until you gain a safe distance

[worthy plinth]

I myself like carpet bombing using engies spider mines

[frail merlin]

You would be spamming it more if it didn’t have a limit tho

[frail merlin]

5 second I’m pretty sure you don’t need alien head for that

[wispy crypt]

Like im just gonna say brainstalks is definitely not best used on captain but its better on him than quite a few others especially those with charged moves

[worthy plinth]

It also becomes extremely outclassed once you grab an icbm, but icbm is arguably the best item on engie, tied with droneman

So it really doesn't count

[frail merlin]

Ok gonna make a tierlist instead

[worthy plinth]

Also, it explodes when you drop an extra. It may not seek out the target but it does do the full 600% damage if I'm correct

[wispy crypt]

Is this for head or stalks

[frail merlin]

Forgot captain

[wispy crypt]

And viend

[frail merlin]

Stalk but I would probably be pretty much the same on head

[worthy plinth]

Actually let me check this shit rq to see if I'm wrong

[wispy crypt]

Idk loader doesnt get that much value out of stalk cuz she needs to charge her punch

At least not as much as bandit who could apply a good amount of hemmorhage

[frail merlin]

It explode but that means you have to be placing land mine on melee range in the enemies

[wispy crypt]

Still dont know how to spell that dumb word

[frail merlin]

I was thinking of thunder punch and slam

Maybe a bit to high tho

[wispy crypt]

Ok yeah that makes sense

[worthy plinth]

I mean, I'm a mobile turret enthusiast so I've prioritized the shit out of focus crystals

[wispy crypt]

Idk about engi though

Mines explode once you place a 5th one and harpoons take time to lock on

And turrets dont really do anything if spammed

[frail merlin]

Fair but I play more engi than captain

[wispy crypt]

I still think you underestimate the crazy aoe expansion of half second diablo cooldowns

[worthy plinth]

Focus crystals are kinda just crazy busted on mobile turrets

They already want to get right up in an enemy's face so it's just a free 20% extra damage for them

[frail merlin]

Ok so you have to stay out of Diablo to not get hurt the enemies follow you you can try luring the enemies in the circle but you can’t do 5 at the same time

[wispy crypt]

And even if there arent that many enemies its still means a higher chance to hit unpredictable bosses like worms or xis

[wispy crypt]

You dont have to lure shit if the entire map is littered in circles

[frail merlin]

Doesn’t that mean you will get blasted

[wispy crypt]

There will usually be small gaps

[frail merlin]

Then you can’t dodge the enemies and just get blasted by the enemies instead

[wispy crypt]

And you wouldnt have many diablos behind you

[wispy crypt]

Gotta do it last second

That does add a risk but also a very potent reward

[frail merlin]

No wonder you are getting blasted by Diablo the whole time

[wispy crypt]

Being able to get bigger chances of hitting fast bosses or bigger damage on tankier bosses is really good

[frail merlin]

I rather just use a single Diablo

[wispy crypt]

Most of those are intentional or me being too greedy with luring enemies in a single one

If you just keep leaving an easily accessible safe zone in the back of your mind you should be fine

[frail merlin]

Way to risky to get put into use especially if you are in eclipse where it’s a bullet hell

[wispy crypt]

True but since most people dont play eclipse and with it messing with a lot of the item's value I dont put its factors in my opinions

Eclipse narrows down the amount of creativity in builds also being effective meaning a lot of potential that would work in monsoon would get swept under the rug

Though yeah in eclipse especially 7 I can see how having many diablos can be deadly

[frail merlin]

It’s true eclipse limit built but it also puts you in some very desperate situations making you put everything you got to use and getting to learn a lot in the game and it’s very satisfying to complete it, still a gamemode for masochist tho

[wispy crypt]

Eclipse is a decent way of ranking a character's potential but makes ranking item value on survivors drastically differ from a monsoon player's perspective

It can definitely cause a lot of confusion if 2 people rank things with only one of those 2 different difficulties in each mind

[frail merlin]

It happens a lot but it is kinda hard to get rid of the eclipse mindset and it’s not like playing monsoon is gonna get rid of it

[wispy crypt]

Yeah

[frail merlin]

Bdw while we at it can I just express my hate for the e1 modifier cause it’s so targeted by summons it’s like they nerfed a already bad item it’s only affect some part of the run while the other works passively the entire run

[wispy crypt]

Yeah it should not affect allies

[frail merlin]

Or just exist in the first place I would like a new e1

[worthy plinth]

Small question

If I'm looping on eclipse and go do void fields from newt, will the deep void portal still spawn or no?

[wispy crypt]

You can do void fields in eclipse?

[worthy plinth]

Bro I'm playing through a horror game right now

A scav had spare drone parts and now I'm nervously awaiting for droneman to jumpscare me and end my current e8 run

I'm not sure if I killed droneman yet but it's still lurking in the back of my mind

[wispy crypt]

I believe that since the scavvy died droneman got cut from sdp's effects

And droneman without sdp does literally nothing

Like he has nothing outside of the minigun provided by sdp

[gritty fog]

It's just the normal game but harder

[wispy crypt]

No

You cant enter the celestial portal for example

And also not regular spawning void portals

[gritty fog]

Hm

[wispy crypt]

I dont think theres any way around mithrix actually

[worthy plinth]

How easily can crowdfunder skip phase 4

On mithrix

[worthy plinth]

Fuck it, I've had my game paused for 15 minutes, I'll just loop until I find a preon

[frail merlin]

are what I consider phase 4 skip equipment you can just snip him on the ramp

[worthy plinth]

Capacitor would be much more viable for phase 4 if not for the fact that safer spaces kinda shits on it and you can't hit him frame 1 to skip phase 4

Either ways it's still really good, but I was specifically looking for something that does constant damage and isn't kjaros cause the game wouldn't give it to me even after my 3rd loop

Still won even without phase 4 skip though

[pliant olive]

So, attempting a pure run with Loader, Drizzle as I'm still learning. How... do you play this character? My current strat is get the hell out of dodge, come back around, punch the heck out of big enemies/groups. But I can't really chain anything together or get "full" use of a charged punch. Also, playing with momentum is so bizarre...

[frail merlin]

I just remember that’s it’s been like 3 month since I used that cheese

Also I’m pretty sure engi can cheese mithrix with his missile

[worthy plinth]

He can, but I was still scared of mithrix's wrath even though there's no reason to fear it

[frail merlin]

After doing melee merc e8 nothing about mithrix scares me

[worthy plinth]

I wouldn't really say loader is a beginner friendly character, but some advice I'd give is that you can use your grappling hook and charge your punch at the same time, allowing you to build up speed and delete bosses very quickly (her charged punch damage is based on the speed she's going at)

[pliant olive]

I have opened my eyes, made a realization. While it is technically about getting to x so many loops, playing higher and higher difficulties, and beating Mithrix/Voidling(eventually). It should be more about just playing the game, having fun. Not rushing up made-up leaderboards, or min-maxing with the "optimal" characters. Just playing whoever looks fun, seeing how things interact, regardless of my skill level! Worrying about winning is just gonna drag my mental health down. Besides, it's a rougelike, I'm not MEANT to win all the time!

[wind torrent]

Can I add the dlc in a lobby with people who don't have it

[quartz bay]

i never liked the idea of min maxing personally, it takes away alot of fun in the game and i can still win consistently without even thinking about what im doing

like if i get a bad red/greens my lazy ass is not gonna leave it on the floor to hope for a recycler

[white quarry]

Yes

[white quarry]

Fuck around and find out promise land

[covert moat]

Get bands if you dont have them already. Loader is one of the survivors that practically needs them for high burst damage.

[pliant olive]

Do Bands stack at all? The game likes giving me movement and Bands for my greens...

[twin kernel]

bands stack well

not bandolier though

[covert moat]

Yes. They stack very well.

2 bands does double the damage of 1. 10 bands does 10x the damage

[twin kernel]

he’s the middle child

[covert moat]

We dont talk about that black sheep of the band family

[twin kernel]

void band is the adopted one that got kicked out for being terrible

an outcast

[covert moat]

Woah woah vand isnt terrible. Its just a little touched in the head

Bandolier on the otherhand...

[twin kernel]

bandolier needs to change its name

[wispy crypt]

As a captain main I disagree

[twin kernel]

its bringing the family rep down

[wispy crypt]

Bandolier has 2% band genetics because of diablo strike so it is legally permitted to have band in the name

[pliant olive]

Any stages particularly full of turret/drone fixes? Trying to get Engi 12 minions.

[wispy crypt]

Cant you just get the backup and 2 fuel cells for that?

[twin kernel]

Roost

[wispy crypt]

I wish you could retry achievements

Would make testing what counts way easier

[twin kernel]

i cant even remember most of the achievments

i only remember the commando worm one and the clover one

Cus i hate looping

oh and the crab one

[wispy crypt]

I remember a couple

[pliant olive]

So, the spider mines... I love these little dudes! Just slap a few down, watch them shred. And is it just me, or does their blast have a pretty big range, for something so small? Use static turrets to lock down an important area/focus big enemies. Grab harpoons and spider mines, smidge of mobility... Engi can safely go basically wherever! Primary is a bit slow unless you stack attack speed, though. But fix that, and you even have a big burst of damage, too!

[wispy crypt]

I mean they are still mines

So ofc they have big range

[worthy plinth]

I only ever really min/max for reds and good/green multishops

Like you can't just find a multishop with 3 watches and say "eh, I won't get a credit card"

[wispy crypt]

When have you ever seen that

[worthy plinth]

I mean, I've seen a multishop with 3 atgs

But sadly that was pre dlc

And my point still stands. If it's an energy drink, goat hoove, and crit glasses, you're not just gonna abandon the possibility of getting all of them

[wispy crypt]

Maybe I will

I have once forgotten to check a legendary chest I left with a hacking beacon and just abandoned that red

[worthy plinth]

Regular monsoon, you can get away with it. Eclipse, you're gonna need the min/maxing mindset

Cause the odds of getting either a recycler or credit card in any given run is higher than you'd expect

[quartz bay]

my impatient ass will lol

[gilded orbit]

change my mind.

[wispy crypt]

What did bandit do to you

[gilded orbit]

i just find him boring

[wispy crypt]

Fair

Though youre the first person ive seen that doesnt consider bandit middle of the line in nearly everything

[gilded orbit]

yeah

he's cool, i like his abilities, but i only play him when im going for monsoon skins.

[weary hull]

im so confused rn cause im charging the portal with like 6hp and im stilll not getting the glorious battle achievement

[wispy crypt]

You need to be below 10% the moment its done charging

When you hear the thump thats when you need to be below 10%

Not sooner not later just in that moment

And the health cut fron glass does not count to my knowledge

[weary hull]

so i cant use shaped glass to do it?

[wispy crypt]

I think youd have to then go to 5% or better phrased 10% of the "new" max hp

[weary hull]

ah okay

[wispy crypt]

Just charge to 97% throw yourself off the nearest cliff once or twice and then charge the last 2%

Thats how I did it

[weary hull]

yeah thatd work, i just spent the last three hours in godmode with the artifact of kin, and the only enemy spawning was the scavenger lol. i thought id just use shaped glass before i obliterate and try and get it but i guess that doesnt work

also is the timed security chest like purely luck based on your spawn?

[gilded orbit]

now i think this is a fair rating.

[wispy crypt]

Hooves and repulsion armor plates and brooches a bit higher but otherwise good rating

Repulsion is good because it also takes the damage from debuffs like bleed away

[gilded orbit]

fr?

did not know

[wispy crypt]

Even just a couple repulsions render bleeds and burns almost useless

[gilded orbit]

k

[wispy crypt]

Also very good against templars and lunar wisps

[prime sky]

also blazing elites kinda

and grandparents

[quartz bay]

putting fungus, warbanner, and voidcrit higher than fireworks?

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-eyebrow-eyebrow-dwayne-johnson-gif-23577059

[woven pelican]

O yeah it’s gonna be a good run

[astral mesa]

i just now got acrid aka lizard doggo

[frail merlin]

C tier🤨

[regal edge]

For my Switch users out there

Who uses Gyro controls?

At any capacity

[quartz bay]

i use them, makes the game alot more playable

tho admittedly i haven't played the switch version in over a month because the lag makes the game very unplayable

[regal edge]

Real

[quartz bay]

like i can stand a bit of lag but the lag in this game is just too much

[regal edge]

Next time I hop on, I’m gonna switch from Vertical Gyro to Full Gyro

[regal edge]

I haven’t had bad lag yet

Tho, I’ve barely been doing solo runs since I’ve been focusing on other ganes rn

ahem Pokemon

[frail merlin]

I play handheld a lot so I don’t use any gyro but it works

[twin kernel]

absolutely not

safer spaces and goat at the very least need to be s-tier

[frail merlin]

I like how he put and in the same tier like saying the void items aren’t a direct upgrade

[twin kernel]

very weird tierlist imo

[queen ravine]

I posted this in the other ror2 chat but I wanted to post in here too because I'm on PS5. This is my moment before disaster. It crashed not even a second later.

But I'm not sure what it was exactly that crashed my game? Was it that I was insta killing enemies TOO quick? Or was it something in my inventory that made the game unstable??

[twin kernel]

I can’t tell whether you’re serious or not

if you are, looping will inevitably end in crashing

even pc cant handle items of that quantity

[queen ravine]

I was being serious. I didn't know know long I could go for before a crash

Apparently it was a 5 hour long run

[forest pumice]

+ this late in the game is bound to crash your game quickly, especially on console

[meager niche]

Does a 5 hour run on console

[forest pumice]

I don't know if it got better in the patch, but it's still pretty bad

[meager niche]

Is surprised when he crashes

[queen ravine]

I didn't actually realize how long the run had gone for until it crashed tbh

And I'm not surprised at all that it crashed. I was just wanting to know why it happened. Was it because there was too much going on? Run was too long? Too many items? That's all

Maybe all of the above? 😅

[heady heart]

you’re forgetting

[twin kernel]

all of the above with the exception of the run being too long

[queen ravine]

I see. Well now I know probably about 4 loops is more than enough

Kinda sucks tho because I really did want to see how long it could go on for

[twin kernel]

the last time i looped was to get an achievement for my 100%

[queen ravine]

I just find it really fun to loop for some reason

[frail merlin]

Outclassed by my switch

[queen ravine]

Damn

[frail merlin]

I did go for another like 20+ stages but eventually got bored and obliterated myself

[queen ravine]

That's fair

[frail merlin]

Actually I just noticed that your run was like 100+ min longer and had like 3x more items maybe I was wrong still crazy how my switch didn’t crash

[queen ravine]

I agree 😆😅

[meager niche]

I was just doing a multiplayer run with 2 of my friends and I accidentally duped crit glasses and atgs

I say duped but I had 5443 crit glasses on stage 1 and by stage 3 I had 930 something atgs

[forest pumice]

Never heard of that one before

[granite sail]

just one shot the Newt, feeling good

[meager niche]

Same here, I tried to duplicate the glitch nd that’s how I got the 900+ atgs

[forest pumice]

Is it like a multiplayer bug?

[meager niche]

Gna assume so

Game started freezing up while I went to grab an item nd when it stopped freezing 1 my friend had crashed and 2 my other friend was forced to spectate even though he never even left his drop pod

[meager niche]

Just ended the run after a little over 2 hours, 19,664 items picked up. Which isn’t correct, since at most I think I had around 8000 by the end of the run

Either way absurd

[untold otter]

Sorry if this has been asked a lot, does any1 know if we will ever get Eclipse Multiplayer on Console?

[quartz bay]

by the fact we still haven't got any sort of patch yet, it'll probably take a long while till eclipse multiplayer drops on console

[frail merlin]

On number 85 it’s apparently a bug very rare tho https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ti69PEqL_Hp4e6iSHUisw6KLaZN1SdNlqn1jBcV-WAI/edit?usp=drivesdk

[meager niche]

O sick thank you

Nah wasn’t 85

I had opened a shrine of chance

No void potential involved

I’ll look into it some more ty for sharing that site though

[weary hull]

anynone know how to use keyboard and mouse for playstation? i can use it on other games, but ror2 isnt letting me do anything with it

[pale mountain]

Can't

[weary hull]

big sad

[frail merlin]

Closet thing I could find

[meager niche]

Does anyone know an easy strategy to make a private lobby with friends work with the bug still going on? I'm tired of spending more than 30 minutes every day to finally make one work (Sometimes we give up)

[dusky rivet]

Try pressing quickplay at the same time its usally a desert there so most of the time it works for me, switching host sometimes works also

[untold otter]

Oof

[meager niche]

How long does it take you to create one?

[dusky rivet]

Depend on how lucky but if you get it first try 1+ min

[coral timber]

Console brethren any more news on seekers if the storm or rorr

[meager niche]

Rorr no clue, it's a mix of people saying that the devs confirmed it but dunno when to people saying the devs said its not up to them

It probably will tho, since ror1 is on console

SoTs, it's probably still a month away or 2 from release, there are monthly dev logs

And since console was sorta rebuilt to be close to the PC version as possible, most likely we'll get it at the same time

[flat lava]

7 years no patch

[frail merlin]

Only 7 year seems like we are getting the dlc early

[quartz bay]

gonna be 100% honest, even with this rebuild, i highly doubt sots comes out same day as pc and even if it does its gonna be more buggy than pc

gearbox is free to prove me wrong tho

[twin kernel]

i feel like gearbox may have overestimated how quickly they could “unify the code bases”

I don’t completely blame them for have trouble with it though, it would’ve probably needed another year or two in development to produce the level of quality we were expecting

[lone cave]

If the code is as unified now as they say it is, I imagine it won’t be very hard to bring console up to date with sots as they work

[wispy crypt]

Its not yet

They did update consoles but theres still a lot of stuff to fix

[forest pumice]

I think my game is trying to make loss

[frail merlin]

Knowing gearbox pace I would be surprised if they managed to fix it within a half year

[wispy crypt]

He said as that point of damage just deleted the entire stage

Thats not a death trap thats a remote thanos snap

One that kills 100%

[frail merlin]

He would be in the grave if the fire elite bug wasn’t fixed

[forest pumice]

It would be so much funnier if the fire bug was still a thing

[wispy crypt]

That is true

[frail merlin]

Indeed all clip I have left of it is just me dying using headstomper

[wispy crypt]

I once was in an acrid run with a blazing elder lemmy horde of many as the tp boss

[frail merlin]

The director was having fun with that one

[wispy crypt]

I did the head stomper stomp and literally immediately tried to escape but instead just died in like 3 frames

[frail merlin]

I didn’t think the glitch was that bad until I used headstomper, glacial+fire is also a early run ender

[wispy crypt]

The glitch was horrible in non host multiplayer as you pretty much had to guess how much damage you took from the fire at least a second in advance

So often my thought process was NO SHIT I AM GONNA DIE CUZ I DIDNT ESCAPE IN TIME

Ans then proceeded to die a second after being out of the fire

[frail merlin]

The game forcible trained me to do some Covid stuff distant with the fire elites

I just remember that time I had a blazing stone titan spawn on me resulting in instant death

[wispy crypt]

Blazing elites more like little suns in the form of an elite

[frail merlin]

The channel used to be like fire elites complaining discussions maybe that the reason it’s not that active nowadays

[wispy crypt]

Honestly my only problems with old console were the fire elites and captains primary having more spread and its ui looking bad

Unfortunately at least the ui part of the latter is still not fixed

[frail merlin]

The switch director and knockback bug was pretty horrible also a bunch of multiplayer bugs range merc was literally invalid in co op

[wispy crypt]

I liked the old director

[frail merlin]

You liked the elite spamming director!?!?

[wispy crypt]

YEAH IT WAS FUNNY

[frail merlin]

😭

It felt like I was constantly running away from elites elder lemerian,brass contraption and greater wisp

[wispy crypt]

God imagine the old knockback paired with the current ground collision flaws

Everything would just constantly bug into walls

[frail merlin]

Old knockback+double fall damage would go insane

Wisp was literally treating you like some ball with that knockback

[wispy crypt]

Lunar wisps were crazy with okd knockback

God dammit I wish I was as much as a maniac back then as I am now

Diablo launching woulda been crazy

[frail merlin]

The overloading and fire lunar wisp was so much more a threat instead of perfection

[frail merlin]

I don’t think the knockback bug affected that if I remember correctly

[wispy crypt]

Im pretty sure it did

When I used it to skip pillars I would often overshoot if I didnt have a feather and the like to stop the momentum

[frail merlin]

Well one single bleeding proc would just kill you so not many probably tested that

Not many could even get past the bridge because of the funny hidden horde of many boss that spawned there

[astral mesa]

i found another rain game plush

low quality too

[regal edge]

Wtf

[meager niche]

That’s what we said

I turned both into void items

Was 1 shotting everything including bosses(minus mithrix) cause of the 900+ plasma shrimps

[regal edge]

Dawg

That’s fuckin crazy

[meager niche]

My ps4 was not having a good time

[granite sail]

I was almost softlocked by kipkip the gentle

[gritty fog]

Average kipkip gameplay

[granite sail]

so I had to stand on top of old mate and whack him a bunch

nearly died to the genesis loop

and if I didn't have Dio's (was going for vengeance) I would've just imploded irl

[granite sail]

any tips for monsoon? I'm gonna start unlocking the mastery skins and i plan on obliterating for those

[dusky rivet]

Pain and suffering is the best learning method in this game

[granite sail]

gotcha

[regal edge]

Ok

Real talk

Swarms + Kin + Chaos

Maybe also Fraility

Go to Mithrix

There will be 2 of them because of Swarms

And just let one of them hurt the other

[granite sail]

👍

I suppose I'll also learn by making mistakes right

[regal edge]

Yea

You also don’t necessarily need items to make it work, since its the strat DO used to win without any items

[frail merlin]

Artifact kinda ruin the skins grind if you just cheese it with artifact you won’t also improve

[regal edge]

True

But its funny watching the Mithri fight

[frail merlin]

He wanted to get the monsoon skins and you suggested going to Mithrix

[regal edge]

Well if you’re good then Mithrix isn’t an issue

(I haven’t done many solo runs )

[frail merlin]

I might maybe just be a tiny bit good at the game

Still tho obliterate is must easier

[regal edge]

Eh

Depends on how your run is going

If you got a band and an easy way to proc it

Just go Mithrix

Skip Phase 4

And win

[frail merlin]

Yes but overall obliterating is just the easier for beginners and fastest at getting good at it takes some time to finally learn mithrix

But if you run is looking like this then going to Mithrix is easier

[crisp kestrel]

Is there an Xbox player who can help me with a few achievements

[coral timber]

Console lobbies are so screwed up

[frail merlin]

And nothing is gonna fix them

[quartz bay]

how to fix console lobbies in 3 steps
step 1.) buy a pc
step 2.) buy ror2 on pc
step 3.) play online all day everyday and never touch console ror2 ever again

[granite sail]

consider: I'm bad

[twin kernel]

Most people use artifacts to help with that

I’m merely suggesting that, but if you actually want to get better then play eclipse

[dire bane]

step 1.5 get steam

step 1.9 get a job or alternatively rob someone

[quartz bay]

the second option is more entertaining

[dire bane]

i like to do both and get a job robbing people

its very fun

[granite sail]

[granite sail]

for monsoon
no arti of command

[pliant olive]

Silly question. Is the challenge "The Demons and the Crabs" possible on Switch/consoles in general? I've spent a good half an hour chasing crabs off at Stage 6... Nothing. Gesture seems really awesome and broken, and gives me a reason to procrastinate on actually getting better at the game.

[meager niche]

It very much is, but it's probably bugged on your end

I just spedran the stages and stacked Fuel cells

With blackhole

[pliant olive]

Is it possible to un-bug the situation?

Or kinda just pray that the game works?

[meager niche]

Honestly just pray maybe restart the game

[granite sail]

I got so close to obliterating on monsoon

and died to a fusion cell

I am shaking
especially after killing THREE void devastators

console monsoon scaling sucks

genuinely mad at myself

[twin igloo]

it's the same as normal scaling isn't it

[stone halo]

Yo I am wondering if there's any chance for survivors of the void to go on discount for the ps4?

[granite sail]

I don't know tbh
I was kinda mad when I said that

[twin igloo]

:(

[granite sail]

fucking fuck

risk of rain 2 spawning tough void enemies NEXT to the teleporter on stage 8 (the obliterate stage)

[twin igloo]

:((

[granite sail]

i suck!!!

[granite sail]

HOLY SHIT I DID IT

[twin igloo]

WWOOOOO

[granite sail]

WOOOOOO

[twin igloo]

Damn I sent two smiley faces and used caps lock I'm cool like that

[granite sail]

W

[twin igloo]

*sad faces

[granite sail]

NOT w

[twin igloo]

My head is smotth

[granite sail]

same

[twin igloo]

You remind me a lot of someone reading through your about me, just slightly different interests and stuff

[granite sail]

fair enough

[twin igloo]

Comfort from metal, check
Science nerd
Funny game
Other funny game
Bi

[granite sail]

oh wow lol

[twin igloo]

Literally that guy

[granite sail]

HE JUST LIKE ME FRFR

[twin igloo]

Lmfao

[granite sail]

man I deadass spent all day grinding for a monsoon skin

[twin igloo]

I have like 1000 hours in this game don't sweat it

[granite sail]

getting that monsoon skin feels good

I have some form of comfort knowing I don't completely suck

[twin igloo]

:)

[granite sail]

I dunno who to grind for next

[twin igloo]

If you don't have all the unlocks that'd definitely be a good idea

Some of the alts just make the characters less sweaty

[granite sail]

fair enough

I already have forklift woman
I feel like doing void boi's skin next

[twin igloo]

Spider mines do like cool backflips

Based mines

[granite sail]

I'm in

[twin igloo]

Idk they do that, they jump off a small incline and sumersalt a few times before obliterating the beetle they're agro'ed on

[granite sail]

sounds fun

[twin igloo]

Or they get stuck and they run at a wall for 20 seconds which is also funny

[granite sail]

as they do

I'm the pinnacle of lazy in this game
unlocking character challenges on rainstorm or drizzle and then just getting the monsoon skins

[twin igloo]

Schizophrenia is a very gamer character, lots of little things to tweak with and mechanics

[twin igloo]

I kinda just did that when I got pc bc I spent too long trying to do that not in drizzle tbh on switch

[granite sail]

fair fair

I'd rather not die 100 times cos of monsoon
it's easier to just grind them on easier difficulties

[frail merlin]

First eclipse run after a like a month break I still prefer playing console than pc maybe I am a masochist🤔

[twin kernel]

i have a question for you since you’re a terraria lover

corruption or crimson and why?

[regal edge]

Based

[twin kernel]

💀 (i dont know what corpsebloom actually does, ive never picked it up)

[regal edge]

It increases healing over time

[twin kernel]

sounds lame and cringe, just like every lunar in the game

in my humble opinion ofc

[frail merlin]

It’s okay good early game bad late game but I picked it up stage 1 hoping to get a lunar pool which didn’t spawn

[twin kernel]

did you get aphelian?

[gritty fog]

Corruption worm scarf is too op

[twin kernel]

vilethorn goes hard

[twin kernel]

and the pet it gives you is much more tolerable

[gritty fog]

True

[frail merlin]

I don’t really like the corruption caves so much neither the worms and stuff the worm boss isn’t really that fun I prefer the brain boss but I always play random and it always give me corruption so does it even matter

[wispy crypt]

Doubles healing but puts a healing cap on you so you only get 10% of ur max hp healed per second

Note that doubles both the initial and the then converted healing so one bloom with one rejuv would be 8x the healing at 20% of ur max hp per second

Its a quite strong combo

[frail merlin]

But when stuff start 2-4 shooting you it kinda become a downside instead because you can’t no longer insta heal back to full

[wind mural]

I hate this game

[meager niche]

Yeah, before I went on vacation my little brother showed me that the void devastator released multiple mini insta kill balls after the big one and I was like.

[wispy crypt]

I have never seen anyone get hit by those small balls

I mean if youre fast enough to even get hit by them you are fast enough to outrun them tenfold

Ig if you dont know about them they can catch you by surprise though

[frail merlin]

I didn’t even know they existed

[wind mural]

Me neither

Now I do

Today I learned I hate void ass enemies

Also, does your run end if u have a dios and get insta killed by void explosion?

[frail merlin]

Nope

[quartz bay]

void enemies aint that bad honestly

just dodge

[frail merlin]

I didn’t even know it was possible to die to void enemies

[wind mural]

Bro has not experienced grief yet

[frail merlin]

Don’t have time for that (500+ hour of playtime)

[pale mountain]

They need to add more lag to the switch

[frail merlin]

Agree I haven’t suffered enough

[regal edge]

Real

We need worse internals for the next Switch

[ember breach]

bro has not seen voidling 😔

[granite sail]

tough question
I am a crimson fan
ichor is always helpful and vampire knives

[granite sail]

void devastators deserve less

[faint jackal]

Anyone else on ps5 and unable to play?

[twin kernel]

i go corruption because i got bullied for liking crimson

[granite sail]

you can go to crimson, i won't bully

[thin vale]

i go with crimson always

idc about the scarf, i want the piss

[quartz bay]

actually yea i have noticed the game has been giving me insane slowdown recently, like it takes things forever to load

idk if its because i have no internet atm tho, every other game on my ps5 works fine

[frail merlin]

Only fought him like 2 times both was very late in the run if you know his pattern it isn’t that huge of a problem but he sure is tanky

[granite sail]

be careful with quails or you fling yourself off the map during the parkour segments

[frail merlin]

The parkour is the least amount of concern

[granite sail]

that's where i died and my friend had to carry soo

[dusky rivet]

The least amount of concern for me

[granite sail]

right

[pale mountain]

Yes you need internet

[quartz bay]

oh rip

i could've sworn it was working perfectly fine a few days without the internet

[granite sail]

this game is very good at making you feel like you suck at the game
or might just be my skill issue

[sturdy spindle]

no it definitely does

like when i hit an elder with a crit railgunner shot with 10 stacks of bleed, and its like i slap him with a napkin

😦

[granite sail]

I only have 1 monsoon skin

[junior gale]

Anybody up to play some runs with me?

[pale mountain]

#lfg-playstation-ror2 #lfg-xbox-ror2 #lfg-switch-ror2

[granite sail]

the game likes to bug me by still saying I have stuff unlocked for loader despite the fact i have her mastery

[junior gale]

@granite sail you online?

[granite sail]

I'm gonna go to bed soon haha

[junior gale]

Bro 💀

[granite sail]

it's 11:36 pm where i am and I've got a busy day tmr

[crude pewter]

Does completing the the game on Monsoon with Heretic give an achievement for the heretic or the original character you pick

[wispy crypt]

I think neither

Heretic doesnt have an achievement and I dont think it counts for the original survivor

[frail merlin]

It gives the log book

[wispy crypt]

I mean thats not for monsoon though thats just any run

[frail merlin]

It still gives it tho no matter what difficulty monsoon included

[wispy crypt]

But it aint monsoon specific which was the question

[wanton glen]

Is the game bugged for anyone else? I open the game to the main menu but can't interact with any of the buttons. I hear the clicking sound but I'm stuck in the main menu still.

I tried restarting my game but that's not fixing it

[pale mountain]

Try this #1173367688710586428 message

[wanton glen]

That weirdly worked, thanks

[pale mountain]

Ok good

[spare sinew]

Hello console people how are you doing?

[regal edge]

I’m doin alright

Tired

[bold shale]

I’m upset

[quartz bay]

waiting to get a pc

[wispy crypt]

Very good

[wind mural]

Guys

I need some help

Which one lead where?

Quick

[wispy crypt]

Left goes locus right goes back to normal

[wind mural]

Thanks bro

[round silo]

Bruh

[wispy crypt]

A classic

Kinda bummed I havent seen this yet

[round silo]

getting soft locked on a good run?

[wispy crypt]

Not necessarily a good run but I wanna see if I can somehow get in there with some knockback silliness

If I can shoot enemies through walls consistently and have mithrix through me so I fall out of the arena I absolutely can somehow bug myself in there

Problem is I literally never encountered this bug

[quartz bay]

the crate has a tiny opening, just squeeze into that little opening 5head

[frail merlin]

This one just sucks also you don’t need the glitch to try entering it just try to do it normally when it’s closed

[wispy crypt]

But I also want to see if I can kill the boss

And where the boss even spawns

[frail merlin]

The boss will likely spawn outside and if you got inside you can probably go outside

[drowsy vector]

https://youtu.be/6m6rQpETmJA?si=ulnf9fd-_THA_WZV

Why cant this happen in a Monsoon run or something where its useful lol

First time ive seen him do that

[wispy crypt]

Ehhh it can go wrong and cause you to get softlocked

That also happens somewhat frequently with the phase 2 enemies

Its rather replicable though just have him dodge through you to clip you out and if you stand on the outer rim of the arena he will likely dash through that barrier and fall out that way

[drowsy vector]

Ive never seen that happen before

I dont have a ton of hours logged but like 300 ish runs at least

[wispy crypt]

Yeah this is a bug that only appeared after the sotv patch

[drowsy vector]

Ohhhh thats why

[wispy crypt]

Collision in general got absolutely fucked by the sotv patch

[drowsy vector]

Most of my hours were either before dlc on console or on PC with dlc

[wispy crypt]

Youll see a lot of enemies clip through walls with somewhat decent knockback

[drowsy vector]

Ive seen a ton of them fall through the floor

[wispy crypt]

Like its almost 100% consistent with captains primary if you shoot an enemy thats next to a wall

[drowsy vector]

Especially annoying when its a void enemy and it doesnt die

Just lands somewhere out of reach

[wispy crypt]

Shit became a tech for me

[drowsy vector]

Pushing mobs into walls on purpose? Ha

[vale osprey]

ah yes, HD

definitely high definition

[oak canyon]

...how exactly does power elixir interact with ?

logically it shouldnt do anything when you take lethal dmg, but im just kinda curious

[vapid granite]

begging and pleading for that update

[bitter pagoda]

Rest in peace brother

[vapid granite]

white scrap

?!

[vapid granite]

?!

[supple sinew]

Im sorry for the out of nowhere question, and if this is annoying in any part. Is there any news or any plans on cross play between console and pc, Im asking because I gifted my friend the game but I guess we didnt even read.

[bitter pagoda]

There unfortunately are no current plans of cross-play

[supple sinew]

dang, that's fine thank you for answering

[bitter pagoda]

of course no worries and good luck

what do you play on?

[jolly bridge]

U can buy on Xbox but it's not on gamepass yet tf

[gritty fog]

Not everything is gonna be on gamepass

Activision is owned by Microsoft and it still on gamepass

[white quarry]

Ror2 is gamepass material in it’s current state

But if they wanted to do that, it would only take a little digging to find it’s terrible past and that would probably put an end to that

I make it sound so cinematic

[dusky rivet]

Still a good game even with its buggy state

[granite sail]

aurelionite is carrying my merc run rn

[granite sail]

merc monsoon run complete

[north sedge]

You can make your merc runs 10 times easier by learning the expose transfer thing

[dusky rivet]

I wouldn't say its that broken plus it's harder to do with more lag and attack speed later on

[granite sail]

i require tips for smushed and b&e

[wispy crypt]

For b&e rush and focus on stacking

[river prism]

For B&E just speed run with command and get as many delicate watches as possible

It only works on the last phase so gl

[wispy crypt]

For smushed rush and focus on NOT taking on hit procs so you can reliably chip mithrix's health to around 400 which should be enough for the kill

[granite sail]

noted

[wispy crypt]

Runald bands are insane for b&e if you rush

[river prism]

? That's another damage source

Ruins the whole thing

[wispy crypt]

Little known fact theres a 0.1 second grace period between hitting with lights out and killing mithrix it still counts

I did it that way myself

And with enough runalds you basically chop away at least a third of his healthbar for each lights out runald proc

Works wonders

[granite sail]

smushed will suck
I just need to aim better for b&e

goodnight

[wispy crypt]

Eh smushed sounds harder than it is

[granite sail]

slow mithrix should be alright tho

[wispy crypt]

You really just need to rush and chip mithrix's health down to around 400

Should be around the damage a beacon does

[granite sail]

fair

alr cheers

[wispy crypt]

Also beacons arent affected by items

[granite sail]

yeah

[wispy crypt]

At least most

[granite sail]

I'll try those all tomorrow
goodnight

[frail merlin]

I remember doing this exact method with getting the smushed achievements much more reliable than all those shaped glass ideas https://youtu.be/BxpmfVlgBS0?si=CXNjKzcD1fPlNMH5

[wispy crypt]

Who tf would take shaped glass for this achievement

That not only drains your lunars but is also crazy risky for everything until phase 4

[frail merlin]

That’s what everyone said like 2 years ago when I was trying to get it

[wispy crypt]

Bruh

[gritty fog]

I did this no guide

Didn't even remember it was an achievement I thought it would be funny

[wispy crypt]

I just randomly got it in a looped run once I saw that my empathy cores conveniently started attacking his empathy cores just before they wouldve killed him which ended up just letting me get it in the stupidest way imaginable

[lone cave]

Used this guide and got the achievement on my second attempt of dedicated attempts

[frail merlin]

👍

[drowsy vector]

Thats how i did it lol

4x glass on the moon then was real careful

Got the unlock tho

[vapid granite]

@wispy crypt yo ik this isn't matchmaking but can you help me get diablos

[frail merlin]

I don’t think multiplayer will make it any easier

[wispy crypt]

Just rush and dont pick up on hits get a vase skip pillars do phase 1 do phase 2 go on one of the pillars camp phase 3 (with things like feathers) and then chip his health doen to about 400 in phase 4

[vapid granite]

true but i tried and i got folded by mydthrix when he collected my items

shit was tragic

[frail merlin]

That’s why we always cheese him

[wispy crypt]

Just camp on top of one of tbose pillars

Chip him down slowly but surely

[vapid granite]

i don't know why i decided to not play lame

[wispy crypt]

Him also dealing damage to himself through the slam speeds that up

[vapid granite]

YEAH HE WAS DOING SELF DAMAGE TOO

i had it

[frail merlin]

Surely this time

[vapid granite]

[drowsy vector]

Well thats every single challenge done on console now

Only missing 3x monster logs then im 100%

Oh 4x monster logs actually

[frail merlin]

1 pillar of mass 1 pillar of design 1 pillar of blood and 3 pillar of soul thanks game🥹

[ionic shard]

Right so I was playing on my friends ps5 on my account and grinded a lot of stuff and I got home today and none of my stuff is on my ps5 any help?

[quartz bay]

i ate your data 😇

[frail merlin]

Should have saved some for us I wanted to get a bite also

[drowsy vector]

https://youtu.be/5f4DHQHnL78?si=j74FeKcsf3fzJxzS

[frail merlin]

These console larva are built different

[cinder zealot]

i mean at least they can't hit you

[drowsy vector]

They do seem to be harder to hit on console than i remember on PC lol

[frail merlin]

Built different in a bad way

[pale mountain]

Probably have to upload it to cloud manually

[crisp kestrel]

Bro I hate this game

Stage 8 monsoon

98% charged teleported

Died to some bs that I don’t even know

[quartz bay]

turn that skill issue into a skill solution

[crisp kestrel]

Also would have been first mastery skin

Bro I swear this game wants me to lose because of that moment

I think it may have been because of a fire elite but it melted me so fast i couldn’t tell

[void acorn]

i got it in eclipse 8 and its stupid easy

[crisp kestrel]

But the good thing is now I know how broken bloom is

But I do think I git lucky with the reds I got

[granite sail]

I know your pain, happened to me when I was going for Loader's skin more than twice

when I did my merc run I found that aurelionite carries so try and get him on your side

[crisp kestrel]

Yeah I do it when I get the chance but since the altar spawn rate is so low you can’t rely on it

I’ll get eventually I know I will

It was just such a stupid death it felt like the ror gods killed me