ror2-console-discussion

[dire bane]

Then this is completely wrong lmao

Probably invincibility bug

The one with dios

[potent scaffold]

My least favorite glitch is the one where I do no damage or my items don't work

[meager niche]

Immortality bug/hit scan attacks stop working, it can happen rarely by random or by reviving with dios best friend either you or the enemy.

[meager niche]

☝️

[dire bane]

On pc there are no depspawns but rather a enemy cap

[lilac salmon]

I don't think I had dios so it was probably random. It was an elite on stage 6 roost. Still managed to win the run 🙏

[dire bane]

It really only goes there when there are like 100 enemy's or smthn crazy

I only saw enemy's cap once

[meager niche]

Yep, once you kill something on PC you make space for the director to spawn something instead of the director making the space.

[dire bane]

Yea

[meager niche]

Gtg, I have things to do, and remember 12 more days for this to disappear.

[potent scaffold]

See ya

And have a good day!

[dire bane]

So switch might have more harsh depsawns because it can't handel as much enemy's so it starts despawning earlier

[quartz bay]

i wouldn't be surprised due to the switch's hardware

[prisma mantle]

"It got here so fast"

Still I'm so exited

[quartz bay]

hopefully the game is optimized enough to where gearbox is able to bump up the enemy cap

[prisma mantle]

Now new players won't feel stupid by asking "how do I get mocha"

[dire bane]

I think they would have to just cut some graphics and not add dead bodies

[prisma mantle]

I did exactly that

[lilac salmon]

is this true for all console versions tho or just thw switch because it's so weak? I cant imagine the series S or the ps4 struggling with the game the way the switch does

[quartz bay]

yep, the game already despawns enemies after a while

[quartz bay]

idk how the game runs on a base ps4, but ive played it on ps5 and it seems like a stable 60 fps

[lilac salmon]

I have seen some frame drops on series S, but only really on looping and stuff

[quartz bay]

i made it to stage 50 once playing on ps5 and the game didn't really seem to struggle much

[potent scaffold]

I thinks it's 60 on ps4 too

[dire bane]

Depsawns are a bug ( probably intended by playeverywhere because they were to lazy to optimize)so they are not on pc

[lilac salmon]

also, do we know what's gonne be the DLC price on consoles?

[potent scaffold]

15$

[dire bane]

10$ on like the first week or smthn 15 for the rest

[lilac salmon]

oh I'll absolutely buy it day one

I'm soooo excited

[prisma mantle]

I get infrequent frame drops on 5

[quartz bay]

def buying it day one too, idk which i would play first, rorr or the sotv dlc

[prisma mantle]

Usually when I die or there's like 3 worms and an alloy worship

[quartz bay]

yea those happened occasionally for me when a ton of procs or something happened at the same time

[dire bane]

I'd say play dlc first since you know you will like it since you like ror2

[quartz bay]

yea

very excited for rorr too

[lilac salmon]

I'm not even particularly excited for rorr, I just been waiting for the DLC for sooo long

[prisma mantle]

Which is undererstanderable tbh

[dire bane]

I like the pilot design

I might main teh pilot in rorr

[prisma mantle]

Idk if I'd enjoy the 2d version

[lilac salmon]

icl, I thought rorr was released already

[quartz bay]

I'll probably main drifter

[dire bane]

Drifter looks fun

Temp items are intresting

[quartz bay]

its releasing same day as dlc

[lilac salmon]

well, my wallet is only choosing one of them

[quartz bay]

i wonder how long temp items last

[lilac salmon]

unless there's a good deal where you can get both with some discount

[quartz bay]

the artifact that makes all items temp items looks very fun to use

[dire bane]

I'd guess 1-3 minutes

[ruby stratus]

Real

[quartz bay]

i know rorr is 15 but its gonna be on sale for like 12 something on launch for a short time

[lilac salmon]

well, I'll see how the price conversions will work for us Brazilians

if it's not too bad I may get both, but eh, I already have RoR 1 and never even played that

[frail merlin]

I should play more ror1

[delicate canopy]

||Dlc coming out soon!?||

[stable matrix]

That was exactly what im saying bro, difficulty scalates too quickly, yes the boss are the same but when there is 3 elite golems and 5 elite wisp shooting at you at stage 2... xD

[dire bane]

It's different

[stable matrix]

That's literally the difficulty scaling too quickly

[dire bane]

This

[stable matrix]

In stage 2 you don't have enough items and damage to overcome having 4 elites up permanently

[dire bane]

They despawn

Dod you read what I replied

[delicate canopy]

The director?

[stable matrix]

It says that if you don't kill things fast enough they despawn and a higher threat enemy spawn

If more elites are spawning and you can kill then fast enough then you're fucked

Speedruners with +1000 hours on PC have literally said that console scalates too quickly lol

[delicate canopy]

What is the director-

[dire bane]

big difference between going fast and killing fast

[lament sorrel]

The thing that spawns enemies and determines what you find on stages if im correct

[stable matrix]

Even if you go fast the game spawns too much elites

More elites = game is harder

^ That does not happen that quickly on PC, even on eclipse 8 runs
In stage 3 on switch you can have 2 boss natural spawns and at least 5 elites spawned at all times in just 20 minutes

[meager niche]

Is the AI in game in charge to make enemies spawn.
Here is a video about it.
https://youtu.be/D7pvZqQnKlk?si=NUnf7yrf2dWiiZni

[stable matrix]

That doesn't happen on PC

[meager niche]

Switch is more brutal with the wack scaling on console, playstation and Xbox is not that harsh but still can be bs, and because of my personal playstyle of if I hear something spawning I kill them as fast as possible the director works just like PC.

[stable matrix]

I mean if i play something like loader or Acrid is mostly ok, but with something like Comand or Arti? 100% Luck dependant, it doesn't matter how skilled you are, you're not going to kill enemies fast enough if you don't get some strong items early on

[dire bane]

Arti and mando need target priorty

That's how you get the early game consistent to power up

[dire bane]

It's not really scailing but the way the credits are used there are the amount of credits in theory

[meager niche]

Man, that is no longer a problem for me, I know how to play with each survivor that I can consistently get to stage 10 without proc chains and it's because of what piranha wrote, target priority.

[dire bane]

Definitely makes the game harder tho

[meager niche]

On moonson.

[lament sorrel]

Yea eclipse is another can of beans

[dire bane]

Cope runs in specific

[stable matrix]

Even if you know how to do that, beating moonson with Arti is awful

And eclipse is just... 🤢💀

[lament sorrel]

Honestly arti aint that bad ong

[dire bane]

Arti is really good when you get good at her

[stable matrix]

It's scaling because the game should do that, just not that early

[meager niche]

That is why she is my main.

[stable matrix]

I'm talking on switch specifically

[quartz bay]

today ill try a arti eclipse run on switch later, it has been a while since ive played as her

[stable matrix]

She's really fun tho

[dire bane]

Scailing is how fast credits increase over time

[stable matrix]

Painfully slow for an Acrid main like me tbh

[lament sorrel]

Ah ok that makes sense

[meager niche]

Yeah, I should have specified better.

[stable matrix]

On PC she's really good, mouse aiming is extremely important for her and with the DLC and ignition tank she does a fuckton of damage

In switch I suppose you can technically use the gyroscope but idk, I don't really like it, it makes me dizzy

[meager niche]

10 ignition tanks, 1 tick of fire, the enemy,

[quartz bay]

the gyro aim makes the game 1000000x easier for me

[dire bane]

I play controller with her and can win and aim pretty consistently

[lament sorrel]

I play on ps4 and all i had to do was get used to her primary

[stable matrix]

I'm not saying that is impossible, I have beaten the game with her a couple of times but is definitely harder

And the difficulty on switch makes it even harder, to the point that she feels really weak the first time you play her

But I mean, you can beat everything with everyone if you're good enough and have enough luck with your items

[dire bane]

Controller aim is preference I like it and use it even tho I have the option to use kb+m

[dire bane]

She feels week the first time you play her because he is supposed to be hard no matter pc or console

[stable matrix]

I like it better with melee survivors

[potent scaffold]

I haven't played merc in forever

[stable matrix]

I'm talking specifically of switch because the difficulty can be horrible there and if you go a couple of stages without mobility items... Is awful

And you can't spend too much time looting because the game would become unplayable

[dire bane]

Switch is the same as other consoles for the most part

[stable matrix]

She's the hardest survivor to master in my opinion

[dire bane]

• console has double dipping

[quartz bay]

i think you should learn how to full loot in a timely manner

[dire bane]

Full looting actually makes the game easier imo

[stable matrix]

It's not exactly the same tho, and more importantly, is not the same as PC

[dire bane]

I know how switch is I have 800 hours lmao

[quartz bay]

i have done eclipse 8 on a few survivors, its not impossible you just gotta optimize your time spent in stages

[stable matrix]

Yeah and yet you keep saying that is the same as PC when is clearly not XD

[stable matrix]

Nothing is impossible in this game

[dire bane]

What did I say was the same

[stable matrix]

But the difficulty is just wrong

[stable matrix]

Well you're constantly saying things that imply that the difficulty is not really that different :/

Where it obviously is

[dire bane]

The difficulty might be easier just because of double dipping

[potent scaffold]

What is double dipping

[dire bane]

This

[stable matrix]

I'm not saying is impossible to beat eclipse 8 on switch but it definitely harder and some times feels like something is wrong (compared to PC)

[potent scaffold]

Got it

[dire bane]

It's harder in some aspects easier in others

[stable matrix]

Even with that the elite spawns are too aggressive too quickly 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dire bane]

Eclipse is just unfair in general

[pale mountain]

Well pc can hardly be compared in general

[stable matrix]

I mean, melee survivors are definitely easier with double dipping and (at least for me) the controller feel better than keyboard and mouse

Also the knockback is insane

For the enemies and for you

[dire bane]

Knockback is a double edged sword

[stable matrix]

Sometimes it feels like the Skyrim giants bug lol

[quartz bay]

gonna be 100% fr, i don't think eclipse is as hard as everyone makes it out to be

once the rebuild drops i feel like i can eclipse all survivors easily

[dire bane]

It can get you out of situations but it can also give you fall dmg

[stable matrix]

But then you go with Mul-T and send enemies flying so hard they leave the map

Is funny but it can get frustrating

[dire bane]

It's more of a time investment than anything

[stable matrix]

I hope the update makes Switch run more like on PC

It feels less... Buggy? Idk

[dire bane]

It's more fun

[quartz bay]

i agree

[stable matrix]

I don't think is that hard on PC once you start playing it constantly

[dire bane]

The bugs on switch maybe van make the game easier or harder but definitely takes out some fun

Bugs in console not just switch

[potent scaffold]

Do you have to do something specific for double dipping to happen

[stable matrix]

For me it just ruins some survivors tbh

But that's a me thing

[dire bane]

Get a dmg multiplyer and

Other stuff too but that's kinda the jist

[stable matrix]

Bands proc weird in console

[potent scaffold]

So like crowbar and bands?

[stable matrix]

Idk why tbh

[dire bane]

Yea

[prime sky]

focus crystal s tier on console

[potent scaffold]

Ah I see thank you for the explanation

[stable matrix]

Ok but Miner for RoR2 when? 😠

[dire bane]

Double dipping allows shit like this

[prime sky]

heat death of the universe

[stable matrix]

Disgusting, I love it

[potent scaffold]

So that's why loader is so op on console

[stable matrix]

Loader is op in general tbh

[potent scaffold]

True

[stable matrix]

That mobility is insanely good

And thunder punch is one the most fun abilities in the game

[potent scaffold]

I prefer power punch

[prime sky]

thunder punch is bugged to be cracked

[dire bane]

On pc this would do 1/4 of mithrix's health tops

[potent scaffold]

Wait so thunder gauntlet is more busted on console?

[prime sky]

the hitbox for the thunder chain part is a cone instead of a circle

[stable matrix]

Excuse me, what the actual fucking fuck

[prime sky]

so you just hit literally everything in front of you

[potent scaffold]

That's risk of rain 1

[stable matrix]

Oh, that makes more sense

But it says SHE

The loader on the first game is a guy

[potent scaffold]

Idk

[stable matrix]

I just want Chef and Miner back on ror2

Miner on the original ror was broken af and was extremely fun

[meager niche]

It should be a cone but right now it is in a circle the thunder chain.

[prime sky]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[tribal rover]

Yeah that splash that comes after the punch is roughly where the intended area is

Regular punch is better for damage though

[frail merlin]

The console version might as well be a secret risk of rain 2.5

[wild thistle]

Think about it we are technically 8 business days away as opposed to 12

So it’s closer than we think

[prime sky]

Longer than you think

[wild thistle]

Nuh uh when every day is the same day time flys past

[pale mountain]

Btw have 2 dudes asked about console since yesterday. Dun have time to read another 500 messages or whatever

I'm gonna consider things done at 300. Nuff of that

[wintry ivy]

Hey @meager niche do you know if engi turrets count for kills against or not

[prime sky]

they count

[wintry ivy]

OK sweet thanks

[meager niche]

Yes, they count.

[wintry ivy]

So I can have the turrets automate my genocide lesss gooooooo

[quartz bay]

when is dlc releasing?

[obsidian pasture]

check pinned

[wintry ivy]

Yeah that one

[forest pumice]

So when is the dlc releasing? November 8 2023, 2024, or...

[fierce juniper]

Within the next few weeks my dude! @forest pumice

[prime sky]

2025

[frail merlin]

2230

[quartz bay]

22,023

[fierce juniper]

@prime sky like the nickname bro. Just promise me you won’t jinx anything

[prime sky]

delayed until heat death of the universe

[oblique bramble]

kek

[hushed current]

Me using happiest mask for the first time loving it
The ghost reaver about to team kill

[slender oak]

Can't wait for the

[coral timber]

Hey was just fooling around with captain and was trying to the the exploit where you activate diablo but not fire it to charge the other one and when i was holding the marker the cooldown didn’t change

[surreal coral]

Is it November 8th yet?

[coral timber]

No?

[slender oak]

Sadly no

Time speeding up doesn't technically exist

[coral timber]

Just checked my notifications on ps4 no update or patch went through

What is this from?

[prisma mantle]

Will there be crossplay when survivors releases?

[quartz bay]

theyre not gonna update the game until november 8

[quartz bay]

no

cant wait for this image but instead of console dlc when it says console crossplay when

[prisma mantle]

Aww man I wanted to play with my xbox bois

[white quarry]

Crossplay is hard

It might be a possibility in the far future but it’s not on the table right now

[prisma mantle]

Alright

And yeah I get that crosspaly is hard no problem

[harsh flame]

What does sacrifice do again?

YESSSIRRRRR the drip is electric

[hallow apex]

attack on titan

[little otter]

And His Drip Was Electric

[coral timber]

Figure thanks

[harsh flame]

I am an Xbozo my friend! I believe you are PlayStation, correct? I do hope cross plat becomes a thing in the future so we may meet on the field

[harsh flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it-gif-9964726

[hallow apex]

gotcha

[warm iris]

[wintry ivy]

I would love to meet you guys in the field know as the internet one day so we can all enjoy our selves

[little otter]

Frfr

[tidal cape]

@sullen dragon I'm with this guy. Judging from developer thoughts 32, this looks rightfully free for us console people. Is that right?

Console has been bugged for over a year in multiple game breaking ways (like drones smacking you for example) and this DLC has taken over 2yrs to come to console. I can get ror2 for $6.24 or less. Please tell me Gearbox isn't expecting me to pay $15 for the survivors of the void dlc on console? Because I'm not paying that. That would be a slap in the face.

[quartz bay]

its not gonna be free lol

[tidal cape]

Then I'm not buying. I'll pay $5 max. No way I'm ever paying $15. And I'll be thinking hard in the future with any gearbox game too. If it is $15, I'm going to enjoy posting about this online and my YouTube channel.

They specified in their steam post the price for rorReturns.. yet did not mention any price for the void on console. That seems pretty intentional to me. In addition, there's news about it on the ps store. I can see the image. No mention of price. No pre order.

[stable matrix]

They said it would be $15 on the stream and on twitter

[tidal cape]

Can I get a picture of that? Because I looked on Twitter via private browsing and didn't see that, but if that's the case, they lost their minds. I'll spend my $15 on genshin.

[stable matrix]

They also stated the reasons for the delay of de DLC release and while I hate that we had to wait I can understand they fucked up and where trying to do things right this time

[tidal cape]

LOL. Try "other games" or "looking for group"

[stable matrix]

Is not going to be free lmao, expecting they to work on reworking all the code and releasing it for free is delusional

Game devs need to eat and live you know? Lol

[tidal cape]

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I only bought that line of thinking for several months, not 2+ years. Idc what their reason is. This is a gigantic slap in the face, and I'm not about to just push it under the rug like it's nothing to some greedy, selfish corporation.

Did you see who they were bought out by? Hopoo was not the only one. Gearbox too. And do you know what they own? I promise you they have money and not charging for this is not gonna pain them. But sure, drink the kool-aid.

[tardy ruin]

I have very good news my friend! I have both! I’ll see you yet my dear boy for some jolly cooperation! I’m simply waiting for the dlc to get Xbox live again!

[stable matrix]

Ok so by that logic every, idk, Insomniac game should be free

[tidal cape]

You don't release a game years ago then add a dlc 2+ yrs after other platforms get it and charge more than you sell for the base game. Who tf does that?

[tardy ruin]

I simply play on PlayStation more as I have more friends on it

[stable matrix]

Because they already have money with their previous games

Lmao

[tidal cape]

That's not quite the logic. You're not fully grasping where I'm coming from, but it doesn't matter.

[stable matrix]

I have been waiting for the DLC the same amount of time

But when a company address a problem, literally explain the way they fucked up and what they're doing to fix that so future content can come simultaneously on all platforms and you still expect them to give the dlc free... Idk man

[tidal cape]

Cool, and you can be entitled to your opinion just as well as I can. Doesn't make you right. Doesn't make me right. I just don't accept certain things from companies. If you do, no worries. Prepare to open your wallet more and more as time goes on and accept less and less. No problem. I have a hella backlog. I don't need to play this.

[stable matrix]

It doesn't seem logic, they could just do like 90% of game companies and leave the game like that

[tidal cape]

Then charge $5.

[stable matrix]

I don't think they're doing the wrong thing here tbh

[tidal cape]

And not a $1 more. The base game is on sale constantly for $6.24 or less. And has been hemorrhaging for several months. And everyone is painfully aware of what consoles did. But sure.. charging $15 is a GENIUS business decision.

[stable matrix]

Why? Like, what's the logic reason if making the dlc cheaper on every platform after months of recoding the game?

Also RoR2 cost $25, you can get in on sale of course but the real price is $25

By that logic you can simply wait more time an get the dlc on consoles for $3 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tidal cape]

So there's this thing.. called.. when you screw up.. you take a loss. It's like.. kinda something that businesses do.. and they typically find a way to write it off on their taxes.. and sometimes even the everyday citizen has to pay for the problems of corporations thru their own tax dollars. Yay! Quit drinking the capitalism Kool aid and wake up man.

If you pay $25 for ror2 you've lost your mind.

[stable matrix]

Idk man, I just think that shiting on a company when they're trying to do the things right is nonsense

[tidal cape]

Bro the "real price" is whatever tf sells the best. Whatever someone is willing to pay.

[stable matrix]

Lol, with that capitalism sentence i can see where you coming from xdddd

[tidal cape]

Then if you love them so much, and want to defend them, why don't you join the church of gearbox down the street?

I'm not gonna convince you of anything just as you aren't with me.

[stable matrix]

Yeah, that's a nice way to have a conversation

[tidal cape]

This is all about having consequences for your actions and making right a wrong, both software wise, and financially. Did you see what happened to cyberpunk?

[stable matrix]

I wasn't trying to convince you, just explaining why demanding a free dlc is just delusional

But hey, don't worry, just don't buy it and that's it

[tidal cape]

Everyone of the people that wanted it, got a refund. That's a consequence for screwing up.

For bad business.

Delusional is absolutely a stretch. You the type to never unionize and be happy when your work throws a pizza party instead of giving you a raise or promotion when you worked you azz off (paid full price for a game to start out and Gave hopoo free publicity). We are not in the same league here.

[stable matrix]

Cut the anticapitalist crap, you don't even know who tf I am, I don't even live in a capitalist country lmaooooo

[tidal cape]

Hey, there are gonna be those that see it as whiny, delusional, ridiculous, whatever, then there will be the ones with some sense that know what I'm talking about and get it. It's okay. Not everyone can be the same.

[stable matrix]

Me expecting miner in ror2

[tidal cape]

I don't need to know who you are to give you the business. Lol.

[stable matrix]

Yeah yeah, everything should be free, more so, they should give us the dlc and then pay us $20 dollars for playing it

Just don't buy it man, but reducing a opinion that doesn't align with your own as some "capitalist propaganda" is stupid, is not that deep

[tidal cape]

Ah yes, invalidating an argument by siding with the other party but taking what they say to an extreme. Nice try.

[stable matrix]

The update is free

They also said that on the stream and Twitter

[tidal cape]

Lol my reasoning isn't reduced to capitalist propaganda. I can't keep wasting my time talking to you. You're not capable of larger concepts.

[stable matrix]

Content locked? I guess you're saying that you need to pay for the dlc

Bro, the sentence just messed up my English, chill

[tidal cape]

Lol.. bro this guy is the type of guy to make excuses for EA and say "I'm happy to get what I got". Lolllll.

[fluid rapids]

the only thing thats free is the complete overhaul which im fine with

[stable matrix]

Like, I was just asking to not get wrong the message because of the language barrier

[fluid rapids]

SOTV im also fine costing money I just wanted the game to be fixed

[stable matrix]

Yep, if they charged for that it would be some EA type movement

And fuck ea

[stable matrix]

Yeah dude, get the dlc for free when PC people had to pay for it 👍

[tidal cape]

The overhaul being free is LONG overdue. And I mean long. They hung us out to dry and y'all just act like it's nothing. Updates going on and dlc being released elsewhere... and you're satisfied with waiting 2+ yrs for what everyone else got and a "sorry... we really tried".. bro go sell that bs elsewhere causeI'm not buying it. The very least they can do is discount the dam dlc. Come on.

[quartz bay]

then dont buy the dlc lol

[fluid rapids]

they ARE discounting it

[stable matrix]

Is that simple, right?

[fluid rapids]

thats why its like 15 or 10 bucks

[stable matrix]

Nope, that was always the price on PC

[fluid rapids]

they discounted it when it initally got released on PC safe to say they'll do the same for consoles before rasing the price back up

[tidal cape]

Have you seen the sale history for this game? Go check the psn sale prices.. or hell.. camelcamelcamel for amazon.. and also.. ebay sold listings.. (truly giving y'all the sauce here) and tell me the sell rates for paying $25 vs $6.24.

How are you gonna sell a dlc that costs more than the game? Just no.

No game company does this sht

[fluid rapids]

how much does the game cost?

[stable matrix]

Idk, they said nothing about that but they highlight the fact that RoRR was going to be discounted

[tidal cape]

Ror2 is regularly on sale for $6.24

And they apparently want $15 for the survivors dlc. They got me fkd up after all that's happened.

[fluid rapids]

we can ask the dec since they are right there

[stable matrix]

$25, but it's constantly on discount because it's a 2020 game

[tidal cape]

And that's not even a "sale". That's a proper price for an old a$$ game that hemorrhages due to bad business and is also indie level.. this isn't a fkn AAA title

Y'all got me all the way fkd up

[sage jewel]

Has anyone else played ror1

[fluid rapids]

i think you are working your self up my friend

the rest of us are just glad the games being fixed

[tidal cape]

Precisely

[stable matrix]

Yeah so... DLC came out in March 2022, Hoppo got buyed in November 2022

I can't see how this is not hopoo's fault

[tidal cape]

Yup

[fluid rapids]

@unique flame Will there be a discount for the SOTV console version like there was PC?

[stable matrix]

You're acting like $15 is a crazy amount of money btw

[thin vale]

Thats 75 of my currency

Enough for 3 lunches

[tidal cape]

Have you ever bought like.. first wave tech? Do you know how expensive OLEDs were when they first came out? 10000$+. Look at them now. Early adopters always get the shaft.. plus.. Early adopters got a full and working product well before console

[stable matrix]

Yeah so you're butthurt and think you should get over compensated...

Like they didn't were direct with the reasons of the dlc not coming to consoles faster, but idk man, just don't buy the damn dlc and go play something else

[fluid rapids]

wha

[stable matrix]

I can't understand being so mad about something and don't leave it behind and focusing on something that makes you happy, Jesus fucking Christ

[fluid rapids]

then...just leave it behind?

[stable matrix]

Is so fucking simple

[tidal cape]

My guy thinks I don't understand his line of reasoning. I do. I simply think it's bunk. Problem is, he's got his head so far up his arse he can't even get it the way I get it.

[tidal cape]

Idk. Having a Q and A + vent session before you boycott is pretty productive and valuable

[stable matrix]

Yeah dude like I'm not a fan of ror since 2013 and haven't been waiting the dlc for the same fucking time as other console players or something

[fluid rapids]

I mean i get being mad and all that, but like the price is fair enough, even with explaining themselves for taking so long it not a good reason but like, when we finally getting info AND a release date I dont really see...anything wrong now?

[tidal cape]

I think you let your love of the brand and your hella anticipation mess with your brain man

[quartz bay]

console players am i right? never satisfied with anything

[prisma escarp]

My guy

It took almost 2 years

[stable matrix]

Reading all the post where they updated about the game and why it wasn't coming sooner (Wich I can agree should have been more frequently) and understanding that they were rebuilding the game because hopoo fucked up...

Yeah, that's having my head up my ass of course

[prisma escarp]

Fr

[stable matrix]

You're literally paying the same as a PC player

Lol

[prisma escarp]

That got it day one

[tidal cape]

What's wrong is the price. That's the problem. And I explained why. No one does business that way except for businesses that have a fkn F rating on BBB or hella Complaints with the FTC or businesses that go bankrupt and get sold to another because they don't know how to do business.

[prisma escarp]

We are on like way more than that

[tidal cape]

I explained thoroughly

[prisma escarp]

Go back to your pc

[fluid rapids]

I think the price is fair enough

[feral herald]

[stable matrix]

And they promised future content being released simultaneously

[fluid rapids]

which will now be more focused now they are finished building the console versions

[stable matrix]

Yep, and the initial fuck up was not their fault

And it cost literally the same that on pc

[fluid rapids]

it was all three companies working on it I admit

[quartz bay]

gonna ping mods, this conversation is literally just going in circles <@&559786374228738069>

[stable matrix]

Fair enough

[tidal cape]

EXACTLY.. not to mention not only did they get the dlc day one but also the update. Remember how anniversary got patched but then they had to patch it again? Remember that bell enemy hit box? Remember fire damage? Remember literally ANY robot ally? Unusable.. bugged to death. You get insta killed. Like. Tf.

[thin vale]

Mate i already tried bringing this discussion here, its as pointless as drying ice

[tidal cape]

Ty for joining

[hardy pumice]

what is happening lol

[tidal cape]

Might be fair on pc where price of stuff is low and u can pay 0$ to play online

[wind briar]

enemies drop items instead of chests

[stable matrix]

Console players being console players (myself included)

[fluid rapids]

No, no its still fair here

[prisma escarp]

Fr its all these pc glazers that downplay our issue with a relevant problem hopoo made

[tidal cape]

Sad.

[thin vale]

Brother in christ you have 2 steam accounts

[hardy pumice]

i dont know who have pings on, because of stuff like this... please dont just ping the devs haha

[tidal cape]

This goes beyond console players being console players. Lame argument.

[hardy pumice]

what is going on though lol do i need to scroll up a bunch?.

[thin vale]

They actually arent

[stable matrix]

My main (and currently only) platform for playing ror2 is switch tho, so yes, I really understand where you coming from, I just don't think it's reasonable to want something for free and shiting on a company when they're doing things to fix the issue, idk

[fluid rapids]

I once again like to state while its not the initial fault of gearbox, not giving us proper updates, Hoppoo also not giving us updates (because they didnt know what to do) and Playerware for making the awful code does make it a group fault for all parties

[thin vale]

Hopoo is doing jack to fix the issue

[tidal cape]

I made a fantastic argument for why the dlc should be $5 or free and none of the Kool aid drinkers can get it

[stable matrix]

But hey, we can agree to disagree

[delicate oak]

what is happening

[fluid rapids]

yes

[thin vale]

They pretty much just sold the game and went on to work with something else

[fluid rapids]

hey...name calling doesnt help your argument friend...

[hardy pumice]

ok i dont actually think i need to read all of this, it seems like you guys have been going on for a while

[stable matrix]

The updates being (sorry I don't know how if im expressing this right on English) so far apart, was awful

[hardy pumice]

i have a feeling you've said what will be said and just repeating ad infinitum isnt really going to help

[fluid rapids]

yes, which I can understand is awful

[prisma escarp]

Lmao

[shrewd skiff]

hello! none of those people actually have anything to do the dlc on console versions, so while I understand your frustration, it is severly misplaced

[tidal cape]

Let me tell you something business wise.. when a new ceo takes over.. do all the old problems go away? When a new president comes into the white house and we are at war.. do we magically stop being at war? How are you all this lost? SO WHAT if it was "hopoo not gearbox" so they get a pass. No. They don't. They bought them. They inherent the land. Good bad or indifferent Jesus christ.

[stable matrix]

Like I said, we can agree to disagree and that's it

[tidal cape]

LOL

[stable matrix]

Even if they do, I don't think pinging the developers is the right call

[hardy pumice]

for now it would be best to just let it be, take a break from the discussion if possible, or take a break from the chat in general if not

[stable matrix]

Like, if you really are mad you should be mad at the company not at the workers

[tidal cape]

I think if saying a benign name rarely is enough to invalidate a sound argument then you're probably too soft to be an adult let alone use that line of thinking.

[prisma escarp]

Fr

[stable matrix]

Anyway...

RoRR the 8, that would be fun

[shrewd skiff]

I'm not totally sure I get your message but the console versions were never worked on by hopoo games specifically

as far as I'm aware, that was always handled by gearbox

[tidal cape]

That's your thinking now? I've literally target the company this entire time. Where have you been

[stable matrix]

The three new survivors where the scavenger lady, the pilot and... Artificer? Idk if I'm remembering that correctly

Also my boy miner looking fine as fuck

[tidal cape]

Kinda irrelevant and potentially worse.

Truth tho..

100

[shrewd skiff]

sorry, I'm not sure where that perception came from

[tidal cape]

Huh?

[stable matrix]

I wonder if rorR* new skills would feel superior to the base ones like it happens with some survivors on ror2 🤔

[tidal cape]

Yeah. You put it better than I could.

[hardy pumice]

probably some, perfect balance for everything isnt always possible and having some things feel just better can be nice

[shrewd skiff]

uh

[delicate oak]

honestly the dev is in the right

[fluid rapids]

Im just confused, they never said they didnt care, true they never said anything at all, but when asked they always answered they were actively working on it

[shrewd skiff]

the team for Sotv was about 6, ror2 before it was about 3 - that is not enough people to port the game to other platforms and make it

[tidal cape]

And you can think that. Doesn't make you right, lol.

[stable matrix]

I agree, I just don't want to experience the "I'm never playing with X skill again because I unlocked Y"
I like when different skills have different advantages and disadvantages

[shrewd skiff]

getting other people to port the game isn't for a lack of caring, it's just not something the company is big enough to do

[tidal cape]

Objectively, NO ONE, is right. Subjectively, I think I make a better argument FOR than anyone here.

[delicate oak]

i know, thats my opinion. Your opinion might be right, thats fine.

[prisma escarp]

Real

[shrewd skiff]

mostly gearbox, the publishing company, who were also responsible for getting the ports made (but were not involved in the development of the game directly)

[stable matrix]

The radio silent was really upsetting, like, they should have done little updates more frequently and we haven't felt like they didn't care
Idk, it was a weird pr move

[tidal cape]

That is a pathetic amount of people to be fair, but that's not our problem. You HAVE to own your mistakes and not pawn them off. It's like using the covid excuse a year after everything. "Oh well we are still adjusting.. the world is" blah blah blah. No. The world isn't shite. It's back to normal and your a$$ is in the dust trying to sell me a fairy tale.

[shrewd skiff]

lol you are mad about weird stuff

[coarse copper]

@tidal cape dude disengage

[fluid rapids]

thats such a weird...comparison

[coarse copper]

You've been at this for half an hour

[hardy pumice]

i think you are overreacting a bit, but regardless it is getting to be a bit much just for a channel in the discord for discussion

[shrewd skiff]

that is very much not what i was referring to

[coarse copper]

You've already state multiple times that neither of you are changing each others minds

[hardy pumice]

so if things are going to keep seeming like theres no end in sight, its probably time to let it rest for now

[stable matrix]

Sometimes you should just leave people talk alone for a while until they exhaust themselves, some people just want to be mad or vent idk

[coarse copper]

And ALL of this off the assumption the DLC won't be discounted

Save your anger for the 8th

In the meantime stop being such an asshole

[tidal cape]

No. It's called an apples to apples comparison. I'm trying to use relevant, simple, strong examples, to make my point, so I'm better understood but it seems to have flown over ppls heads.

[stable matrix]

I'm only saving my time to be back with my boy miner in RoR Returns 😎

[coarse copper]

Not helping

[shrewd skiff]

getting more people to work on a game also requires training, time, and additional work - ror2 was developed on a tight schedule and already barely made it's deadlines - there wasn't more time to get additional people involved, so ports were outsourced

[sage jewel]

Im sure this is still goin on

[tidal cape]

So hasn't everyone else? Tell that to literally everyone here. Do not play favorites. Keep it equal or don't say anything.

[delicate oak]

be happy its at least coming out.

[coarse copper]

No, YOU'RE driving the conversation

[tidal cape]

I can jive w this tho

[coarse copper]

Others have already attempted to disengage, YOU'RE the one that is still yelling about it

[prisma escarp]

If you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen

[shrewd skiff]

we aren't the ones who are able to fix shit, that's what i've been trying to say

you're getting mad at people who don't have control over the things you're mad about

[fluid rapids]

this...this is their kitchen

[coarse copper]

?

[tidal cape]

It is on the assumption that it COSTS AT ALL.. or more than $5. I'm sorry a $2.75 "discount" is pathetic.

[stable matrix]

Bro, we can't agree and that's all right, just let it go and focus on something else for a while, I get that you're mad but sometimes you should just let things be and move on

[tidal cape]

Or $2.25. Which is it

[shrewd skiff]

gearbox? like i've been saying? not hopoo?

[stable matrix]

Like, this is already attracting mods attention

[coarse copper]

That discount is for Returns, SotV has no announced price yet. Go do something else now

[wise bane]

I beat the game on monsoon 2 times

[stable matrix]

No chef on ror2 tho 😔

[delicate oak]

i havent it beat it on monsoon yet bc i keep looping.

[fluid rapids]

I heard he was a fun character

[coarse copper]

There's no more discussion to have

[sage jewel]

Chef is pain

[coarse copper]

So stop clogging the channel

[delicate oak]

really fun 😦

[shrewd skiff]

i mean it sure is our problem

[fluid rapids]

does oblietering yourself count as beating it

[shrewd skiff]

but it's not something we can fix

[tidal cape]

I'm driving it? Lol. Okay. Perception is everything. Apparently you think I own the Discord and can control everyone in it to join whatever I wanna talk about. No free will here. Only strong coercion. All thru text. Man I'm skilled.

[wise bane]

Idk

[stable matrix]

BRO he was the best, like you just go to Providence and throw fucking kitchen knives at him, it was hilarious and quite strong

[shrewd skiff]

what?

no it's literally not

[onyx mulch]

moonknight776 was muted.

[shrewd skiff]

we can't update the game even if we wanted to

it's not in our hands

[sage jewel]

Guys stop giving the devs crap

[shrewd skiff]

sorry?

[delicate oak]

they do enough

[shrewd skiff]

we're not owned by anyone

risk of rain 2 is

[fluid rapids]

all of RoR2 is

[sage jewel]

Such a silly boy kisser :3

[hardy pumice]

i think there are a lot of misunderstandings here from lack of information or whatever

[delicate oak]

yes :3

[prisma escarp]

Sell outs

[lusty pelican]

in wake of the release finally coming im finally freeing myself from the shackles of league of legends

[coarse copper]

Gearbox bought the IP

[stable matrix]

Don't waste time responding, is just going to be circling on the same topics again and the previous conversation is going to repeat itself

[fluid rapids]

if it does, ive also beaten it twice

[lusty pelican]

i can play good games again we are so back

[fluid rapids]

that sounds cool

[shrewd skiff]

that's what publishers do

[sage jewel]

Silly rainworld reactions

[stable matrix]

Miner was better imo, he can dash forward, backwards and have a jump AOE damage ability, you just fly across any stage

[hardy pumice]

i like rain world

[fluid rapids]

Wha

[shrewd skiff]

i'm not really sure what you're saying

[delicate oak]

i dont have rain world reactions 😦

[sage jewel]

Me and you

[fluid rapids]

i just wanna make foods

[delicate oak]

and me

[lusty pelican]

is someone arguing about the fact that a indie company needs publishers to port things over to different software

[sage jewel]

I accidentally got banned from the rainworld discord

[stable matrix]

Mithrix or obliterating yourself? Idk mithrix still makes me shit my pants when he takes my items and I have a shitty active

[sage jewel]

Major whoopsie daisy moment

[stable matrix]

With chef you literally cover the enemies in oil and then cook them

[fluid rapids]

ooh sounds fun

[sage jewel]

I can’t remember but I think providence took forever with chef

[stable matrix]

Sometimes I just have bad luck with actives :/

[sage jewel]

Definitely with acrid

[lusty pelican]

thas crazy

[stable matrix]

It depends on the build but with on-site effects and the powered up knives it was easy af

[lusty pelican]

i cant wait to see mythrix waves

[sage jewel]

There aren’t really controllable builds in ror1 tho sadly

[stable matrix]

Acrid was a pain, is my favorite character besides miner but beating Providence was spending 80% of the fight running away

[onyx mulch]

ougheurope was muted.

[prisma escarp]

LMAO

[fluid rapids]

then by all means, leave and be free from this

[coarse copper]

You're done bud

[lusty pelican]

thank god

[sage jewel]

What is bro on about

[idle notch]

ughhhhh

[coarse copper]

Dude doesn't even understand the fact that Sarn was hired on specifically for RoRR

[stable matrix]

Yeah, it depends on luck

[fluid rapids]

titled...I see why you didnt want this to be like GD 1

[lusty pelican]

dude is confused that indie devs need publishers for games lmfao

[sage jewel]

He probably mains scout smh

[fluid rapids]

And Im very sorry for doubting you in all these months of rage filled waiting

[lusty pelican]

he demands a meeting with mr hopoo games for this pressing matter

[shrewd skiff]

🥹

[fluid rapids]

rest easy my friend, you did well

[prisma escarp]

Muted good takes

[stable matrix]

I'm sorry the conversation ended up with you guys being pulled to this channel @shrewd skiff @coarse copper

[prisma escarp]

Insane

[stable matrix]

Like, for real, I feel bad about it

[sage jewel]

Man solves indie games, promoted new ceo of hopoopoo games

[shrewd skiff]

its ok lol it's nobody's fault

[lusty pelican]

youve done it again, reddit!

[sage jewel]

We did it Reddit!

[shrewd skiff]

i definitely understand people being frustrated about it

[stable matrix]

Anyway, do you think we are going to see at least an sneak peak of future dlc in the stream of the 8th?

[lusty pelican]

i dont care about people being mad at gearbox but dont you literally work on rorr

[sage jewel]

Survivors of the gup

[fluid rapids]

not...not really? because one was blaming it on someone who didnt have anything to do with ROR2 at all and the other was being rude while trying to prove a point and while trying to explain why this wont work they just ignored and pushed their takes further

[delicate oak]

i finally get to see gup

[stable matrix]

I understand people being mad, I don't understand having a bad actitude about it :/

[lusty pelican]

also anger towards someone who has nothing to do with ror2

[shrewd skiff]

yeah i do work on rorr specifically

[fluid rapids]

i think imma buy my friends the dlc...wait if one of us have the dlc do the others have to get it to play?

[shrewd skiff]

but its complicated right

[prisma escarp]

Both did clearly you just read what you wanted

[stable matrix]

Make miner overpowered

[shrewd skiff]

don't worry he is

[fluid rapids]

I read it all my blue friend

[stable matrix]

If he's not the best character I'm coming back for you 😠

[lusty pelican]

delete mercenary-merc main

[sage jewel]

Minir overpowered in patch 1.210?!??!

[stable matrix]

Bro, I'm just realizing, are we going to get the imp boxes again????

[prisma escarp]

Then you are just carefree asf but i respect it

[stable matrix]

Mini imps running around was a funny sight in ror1

The best thing of the patch to ror2 is that I'm going to be able to finally unlock the Merc alternate skill

[sage jewel]

Risk of rain is a reading simulator with a rogue like mini game

[stable matrix]

The lore is something else

It's my main sci-fi inspiration tbh

[sage jewel]

Fr

[fluid rapids]

because 1) the internet, is the internet. I have no time but to see peoples points and try to reason, but ya know I can fail at that sometimes
2) im still and majority of people are still gonna get the game no matter what

[stable matrix]

Providence > Mithbitch

[lusty pelican]

GRAHHH I HATE GROVEWHATEVERHISNAMEIS

[sage jewel]

He is either super easy or one shots you

[stable matrix]

That's the boss with a mask and horns?

[fluid rapids]

ROR2 was a fun game with my friends because we got to play it when we were burntout on OVerwatch

[lusty pelican]

stupid chains ruining my bandit run by oneshotting me

[lusty pelican]

i play ow, ror, and league, i sure do love life

[sage jewel]

Bandit or captain; who shotgunned better?

[fluid rapids]

No way me too

[lusty pelican]

badito

[stable matrix]

Bro, how did they get to you? Like, I haven't had that chains hit me ever

[lusty pelican]

and you play on playstation????? r u my clone

[stable matrix]

It was a low mobility run?

[lusty pelican]

yuh

[stable matrix]

You should time the bandit inv to evade things like that, just inv and tun like you're sonic

[fluid rapids]

duuuddedddddeee

[lusty pelican]

i normally do but i was kinda on autopilot

[fluid rapids]

whos your main on league, ror and ov?

[stable matrix]

Yeah I get that

[sage jewel]

Has anyone played outer wilds

[stable matrix]

Who's your worst survivor? I'm genuinely curious on what people struggle playing as

[lusty pelican]

on league on a toplaner and main kled/mord, i main engie, merc, and bandit on ror and ramattra, reaper, and junk on ow what about u

[sage jewel]

Commando

[lusty pelican]

i genuinely cant play commando anymore

[stable matrix]

Lol, why?

[sage jewel]

I don’t think I have ever played engie for longer than 5 mins

[fluid rapids]

League: Jinx, Ez, Jhin, and trying to get better at Mord, with splash of Rell
ROR: Engie and Rex,
OV: Zarya, Ramattra, Bap and now Tracer

[stable matrix]

Brooo, engi is fun af, is a weird survivor tho

[lusty pelican]

idk i just always feel like im lagging behind on everything when play him

[sage jewel]

He does like 5 dps

[fluid rapids]

Engiej is simple let the turrets do all the work lol

[stable matrix]

I get that, it depends too much on procs

[stable matrix]

And get fungus

[lusty pelican]

kewl! oh yeah and for other lanes i do
mid:veigar
supp: thresh.
jungle: fiddle
you should add me ehhehe

[sage jewel]

What is with video game engineers and sentries

[lusty pelican]

engie was my first monsoon run cuz i literally couldnt die

[stable matrix]

For me Arti and Merc are insanely hard to play

Idk why but with Merc I just feel like I have 0 damage and Arti is just soooooo slow

[lusty pelican]

eh merc is a less heavy acrid imo

[sage jewel]

Gn chat

[fluid rapids]

gn

[lusty pelican]

i dont think ive ever been more terrified of mythric phase 3 then on my first succussful monsoon merc

[sage jewel]

[stable matrix]

I play Acrid a lot and I don't feel like they similar at all

[lusty pelican]

they arent but im related them being both meelee

[stable matrix]

Me while tryin getting diablo strike with Cap

The first time I failed for like 5% and it was awful

[stable matrix]

Cap is amaizing

[wintry ivy]

Ima be 100 percent honest I never really like cap

I don't like how slow and clunky he feels on the contrary that's coming from a merc main

[stable matrix]

He has good damage and the pods are really useful

Specially shock

[coarse copper]

Nope!

With multiplayer, the only thing you lose by not having the DLC is access to Railgunner and Void Fiend

So if You And The Boys™️ wanna just get one copy of the DLC to play together, you can save a lil money that way

[tidal cape]

It is I, who have drank the kool-aid, I have returned.. with apology

[feral herald]

I'm so psyched for the dlc

[eager bramble]

But whos better Railgunner or Void Fiend?

[coarse copper]

Uhhhh

Railgunner is more fun

Void Fiend is very strong

He has a free healing button

[dire bane]

Veind is easier to win with

[tidal cape]

While my name calling was tame (for me) no one else did and was more civil. My bad on that. Also, I learned the difference between publisher and creator lol.. one that I already knew but.. needed to be reminded of. And I'm still kinda lost on IP but.. okay.

[coarse copper]

IP = intellectual property

[tidal cape]

I shall wait and see what they do up until/on the 8th

[feral herald]

I liked the railgunner in ror was fun as hell

[coarse copper]

Aka the ownership of RoR as a concept/product

[dire bane]

Ror1 and ror2 railgunner are super different

[tidal cape]

No Ik the abbreviation/acronym just.. how it ties into everything

[coarse copper]

Oh just, hopoo owned the IP, sold the IP to gearbox

[dire bane]

Gearbox owns the ip-> they are the only ones who can work on it

[coarse copper]

So everyone who yells at hopoo games for the game not working is just wrong

[tidal cape]

Hmm. Okay. So who do I raise my pitchfork at?

[coarse copper]

Gearbox 💚

[eager bramble]

So wait real real question since we are now caught up to pc does that mean we'll get another dlc for ror2?

[coarse copper]

Likely

[tidal cape]

Yay. I got that right from the start.

[dire bane]

Probably

[eager bramble]

M I N E R

[dire bane]

We might see the theme of it on the festival of gup thing

[coarse copper]

Gearbox bought the IP because they thought it would be profitable so odds are they'll make another DLC they can sell

[eager bramble]

THE DRONE DLC

[dire bane]

Or ror3

[tidal cape]

Fair. And release survivors for $5 or less as a financial sorry to us poor console Havers 😄

[eager bramble]

Console should get an exclusive survivor for abit lmao

[coarse copper]

That might come at some point but that'll be a bigger Later™️ project

[tidal cape]

And as a solid business move.. and to inventivise me and keep me around for future games/dlc.

[coarse copper]

I'm expecting a discount

[dire bane]

I mean they worked on it for 2 years so they have to make their money back

[coarse copper]

Idk how big of a discount but very likely there will be one

[dire bane]

I'm assuming it will be on sale for 10$

Like how it was when it launched on pc

[tidal cape]

They can make it back and then some elsewhere. Console need this victory after the 2yr torture both via lack of dlc and lack of proper anniversary update

[wintry ivy]

What a character transition good for you dude like genuinely good for you

[tidal cape]

Whats the true sale price of the game? What does it sell most often at? Like where have the majority of the sales been? Because for me, this is not a $25 game for consoles after what happened. It hemorrhaged. Personally I think it's a $40-60 game on PC tho but things have happened

[eager bramble]

I say console's exclusive characther should be ChEf just to be haha funni

[dire bane]

I mean they were not obligated to spend time fix the game but they did it so it's better experience. They could have just added the dlc with more bugs on top of anaversary

[tidal cape]

Hey what would I be if I were to make such sound arguments and say I'm this and that and not be able to see my own faults or potential faults aye?

It all stems from passion. It's coming from a good place.

[tidal cape]

Imo they were obligated as they changed the game and introduced issues then didn't get rid of them. Had they done 0 in the first place then your argument is more valid.

[wintry ivy]

Ik and that's why I think that's good for you

[dire bane]

Playeverywhere made the issue gearbox had to start with a mess

So it's not really their fault

[coarse copper]

Eh there's an argument to be made that still having the game for sale in its broken state is actually against some kind of regulation

[tidal cape]

I absolutely have to go both ways. Lol. Be what I am to others, to myself (although maybe ease up on that).. might be a bit less miserable.

[wintry ivy]

Yeah so technically gearbox is our saviors

[dire bane]

Yea

[wintry ivy]

Good way of living tbh learn all sides then make a decision

[dire bane]

Gearbox should not lose money bc of a mistake they didn't even make

[tidal cape]

Yes, but who authorized and gave the green light to playeverywhere? Then who bought the IP? Ergo, gearbox problem to fix. They are the president coming into the white house that has to help the citizens of a war torn country (console.. LOL)

[tidal cape]

Correct.

[tidal cape]

Hmm.. also.. co.. correct. I.. don't like agreeing with this.

[dire bane]

The thing that playeverywhere did was make the game in a different code, this made the game look fine at first but it made it very hard to update hense the bugs

[wintry ivy]

Ik I didn't either at first considering they made the unfortunate mess that was tiny Tina's wonderland

But I think they deserve praise for working their asses off and doing alot

[tidal cape]

It isn't as nice as it sounds. Imagine living with a council in your head and finding the best way to just "be".. then eventually getting sick of it and letting one preside.. but then getting upset that one dude went too far and should have never done it in the first place.. then you're back to square one.. but yes.. I love living from black to white and (Infiniti) Grey in between lol

[dire bane]

The only thing gearbox really did was mised realese dates

Everything else they did was good

[wintry ivy]

Yeah but thats because they I think underestimated the issues

[dire bane]

Yea

[tidal cape]

Don't agree. They should lose money if they buy into, which they did. It is a part of business. You get it all.

[wintry ivy]

Cus I believe as they went on more issues arrose so that kept adding to the work load

[dire bane]

They were remaking it before they bought it

[wintry ivy]

Which made them miss release dates

[coarse copper]

They definitely lost money spending two years coding a game they already released lol

[tidal cape]

So they were kinda misled? Duped? Led on? Sold a Ferrari made out of cardboard?

[tidal cape]

True..

[wintry ivy]

Is that a wrong assumption or guess

[tidal cape]

It is funny seeing we are actually all on the same page in the end.

[wintry ivy]

Actually I can aska gearbox dev if thats the case

[dire bane]

Think of it like this, if you were a company who bought a game ( losing money ) spent 2 years on fixing it( losing more money) why would you s the company make it be even more of a loss by making it extremely cheap

[tidal cape]

Ultimately.. communication.. (even charged/aggressive/uncomfortable) communication.. is necessary to getting to a better place.

[wintry ivy]

I'll do that later tho

[tidal cape]

I mean I get it I do, but it's because there was a "factory recall" on the game if you will.. busted and in need of repair.. and fixing the repair is free but bringing it up to spec with the additions costs sure.. but the ones affected pay more than the others not affected, ergo, you discount the affected people.. it's business 101

[stable matrix]

Don't call my boy sniper that

[wintry ivy]

They are aren't they tho

[stable matrix]

Gearbox have talked about "future content" and the last stream with the SotV announcement said that the 8th they were going to talk about the future of RoR2 so most likely

[stable matrix]

I just want Miner and a playable imp

[tidal cape]

^^ hey my sorry was directed at you too, morso you primarily since that was the most interacted person I had. Appreciate your patience during it all. Also, I wanted to make a Jesus judas joke with your name and money and how it related to this but couldn't think of one

[stable matrix]

This is true, most companies doesn't care tho

Like, look at fucking pokemon lmao

[tidal cape]

Great example

U mean pokemon GO right?

[stable matrix]

Except PR regarding the dlc, that felt really bad imo

[hallow apex]

we will see.

it is not out yet

[tidal cape]

I think I'm blocked or ignored. Oh well

[hallow apex]

woof

[stable matrix]

Pokemon Shield/Sword and Scarlet/Violet, they're literally broken games and Gamefresk doesn't care

[hallow apex]

didn’t hopoo give the green light to play everywhere

[tidal cape]

Okay I'm not. Lol. And oh,? I get that far into the games. How sad. I think my last was soul silver

[hallow apex]

why does bro type like that

[tidal cape]

Don't know, so if so we would then be blaming both hopoo and later gearbox giving even more reason for heavily discounted/free dlc imo

[stable matrix]

Np, I really understand you frustration I just think sometimes you need to take a break
Sorry if my comments felt aggressive or something, English is not my native language and I often struggle to comunicate what I think without sounding like I'm imposing my opinion or something

[wintry ivy]

The good ending

[tidal cape]

I think you did extremely well.. I only speak English so.. that's saying a lot. And ah no apologies needed on the feeling aggressive bit. Maybe they did at times but less so than me and idk, that's on me on how I respond. I'm glad you get it. It's Like seeing my love child slowly die and go crazy.

[stable matrix]

They have horrible frame rate, popping, even had game breaking bugs at some point, as a fan of pokemon is just really sad to see

[tidal cape]

Sans would be proud of the reformed

[stable matrix]

Uncommon internet discussion W

[wintry ivy]

Fr tho

[tidal cape]

Sadge.
And mhm. Still some decent/good ppl out there.

[stable matrix]

I can relate, I have been a fan since 2013 (and I was only 13 yo at the time lol) and i share some of your frustrations, I'm just glad they're being addressed

[tidal cape]

Longer than me (with ror) but not w pokemon..

[stable matrix]

And I'm honestly hyped about future content, not just to play but so I can see the guys at Risk of Resources doing some pro runs in new environents

[wintry ivy]

And the fact that if I remember correctly alot of fixes were with like 20$ in dlcs not even free updates

[tidal cape]

DISGUSTING

[stable matrix]

For most games they just leave them like that, things like Cyberpunk or No man's sky are rare exceptions in the industry

Also, switch ports are fucking shit 99% of the time, which is upsetting seeing things like Monster Hunter Rise running and looking good on the console

I get that switch is a worse console but I swear that some developers are just fucking lazy or doesn't care to learn how to properly make a game on switch

[tidal cape]

Absolutely to all that.

[coarse copper]

I had a lil chat with em, knew all he needed was some time to step away and refresh

Whole channel did

[wintry ivy]

Ikr I used to love Pokémon for example then shield and sword came out and they were ok the scarlet and violet

[stable matrix]

I'm double fucked because I only have a switch lite
But even with the bugs and the worse scaling (I know that's not the proper word for it thanks to @dire bane but I really don't know how to call it) the game only crashed on me once and that was looping because 4 overloading worms spawned

And that's honestly impressive lol

[stable matrix]

Yeah, I stepped out of the conversation because I knew that if I kept going I was going to be rude

Shit happens when you're passionate about a game like RoR 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tidal cape]

Okay big man.

🙂

[stable matrix]

Now give us a red plane dlc with a lot of info on the imps 😠

[tidal cape]

Hehehehe. Hey, great self control yall. Any of you play genshin?

[wintry ivy]

Nope

Personally hate it

[coarse copper]

Ah ah ah, #other-games

No genshin in here

[tidal cape]

So fast w the no. Ah. Yes. Not surprised. It's my first and only gacha, but I started late. U wanna talk about greed? Oh my god.

[wintry ivy]

Fr tho

Gacha games and games that have battle passes have ruined gaming for me

[tidal cape]

Yes genshin in here. What whatttt. But okay I posted in there lol

[stable matrix]

I tried playing genshin but sometime in it felt... Soulless? Idk, and I'm not particularly against gacha (just if they're not extremely abusive and deceptive)

[harsh flame]

Parz, the ultimate crusader against the brass contraptions, remains the most based gamer to have ever lived

[wintry ivy]

All ik how to live

[stable matrix]

Brass contraptions are horrible but wisp are still the worse flying enemy in ror

[tidal cape]

They got me thinking $15 monthly is a great deal... then splurging $180 1 time a year for character/weapon.. I justify it thru free content, personal enjoyment, and uploading to my channel but.. Part of me is very disgusted with.. Me.

[harsh flame]

WOOOOOOO!!!! This is the best thing. Simply put, the best!!!

[stable matrix]

I remember when wisp were just little shits in the ground 😔

[harsh flame]

Completely reasonable lol

[wintry ivy]

Little update for you is the genocide is going great I have about 5k more to kill then I'm done

[tidal cape]

Good word. It does feel like that sometimes. So hard to get into the story/lore

[idle notch]

nice attempt honey

[wintry ivy]

I felt that way

[coarse copper]

How many did you need to kill when you started?

[wintry ivy]

20 k

[tidal cape]

LOL. I fkn hate their hitscan bs.. I don't like the mechanic. It's dumb imo. Only if there is a bunch tho

[stable matrix]

[harsh flame]

Let’s gooo!!!! Have you decided on your 3 questions, my friend?

[wintry ivy]

Then in one run I got 10k then I did another 10k but my game crashed so it didn't save so now I'm slowing eating away

[harsh flame]

I can agree with this lol, at least w Greater Wisps

[wintry ivy]

Well the community has can't remember

[stable matrix]

I just hate the fire rate and how sometimes they're just going to hit you no matter what

[harsh flame]

Gotcha gotcha, what are they?

[tidal cape]

LOL

[wintry ivy]

Don't remember

[tidal cape]

Yeah you and tons other. So much skipped dialogue..

[wintry ivy]

I'll check later tho

[stable matrix]

Are you doing a challenge or something? Or you just hate yourself?

[tidal cape]

Yes. It's needs a tone down.

[wintry ivy]

So I made a deal with a gearbox dev that if I got brass contraptions to my most killed before Halloween I could ask any 3 questions about the dlc I wanted so I obviously turned to the console community and wanted to see what they wanted to know

[stable matrix]

Tiny imp survivor when? 😠

[wintry ivy]

Fr

[stable matrix]

Holy shit, good luck with that!

[tidal cape]

Man's truly is a Saint. Wow.

[stable matrix]

Imps are the most interesting enemies in all of ror lore

Honestly I just want to know what the fuck they want and see where they come from

[tidal cape]

The aether

[stable matrix]

Also imagine a survivor called... Idk, The Traitor or something and is just an Imp

Like, you have the claws with bleed, the laser (like the imps in ror1) a teleport...

Fuck, I really want to play as one of them xD

[tidal cape]

Pretty neat

[hallow apex]

why is the slow longer now

[stable matrix]

Slow longer?

[hallow apex]

wasn’t it like at 5 seconds

[stable matrix]

Ah, I think is because the discussion that happened early

[idle notch]

we cannot be silenced, mods

[stable matrix]

Heretic fan = No opinion

[white quarry]

What is the slow rn

[idle notch]

15 secs

[white quarry]

I’m immune

[wintry ivy]

So they are as follows what are plans after dlc, how many people were working on dlc and the 3 in now useless which was how much of the dlc was finished

[white quarry]

That’s rough

[stable matrix]

Jk, heretic is really fun, wish that you could select her from the survivor screen

[idle notch]

yeah

[wintry ivy]

Omg yes but like it would cost like 3 lunar coins or something

[stable matrix]

That's... Actually good

[idle notch]

it already costs like, 8 lunar coins to play as her

[stable matrix]

Make it 4, 1 for item

[idle notch]

but like
also you need to consider the rerolling thing

[white quarry]

9 usually at least

[stable matrix]

It would also make getting to a moment whole more interesting

[white quarry]

Plus rerolling

[idle notch]

yeahhhhhhhhhh

[wintry ivy]

I would say that but killing mihrix gives you 5 so 1 less then mithrix is not that beneficial especially consider she starts with negative health regen

[white quarry]

You guys know why such a slow mode exists?

[idle notch]

it's basically putting a hole in your lunar coin wallet thing

[idle notch]

off topic discussion apparently

[stable matrix]

I forgot that mithrix gives you coins lol, make them 6 then

[wintry ivy]

Ok then interesting take

[stable matrix]

A discussion early that got a little out of hands, everything is fine now tho

[stable matrix]

6 just to fuck with you because a win against Bitchtrix wouldn't be enough

[wintry ivy]

True

[white quarry]

I need to figure out the command to change it

!slowmode 5s

[onyx mulch]

**Command:** !slowmode

Description: Enable/disable slowmode
Cooldown: 6 seconds
Usage:
!slowmode channel [channel] [limit]
Example:
!slowmode channel #channel 1s

[stable matrix]

Or make it 7 just so you can't even count with the usually random coin dropped in every game

[wintry ivy]

You'd have to kill a corrupted scavenger to profit

[idle notch]

woohoo

[wintry ivy]

Which would cost 1 more coin so it would be 8

[white quarry]

!slowmode #ror2-console-discussion 5s

[onyx mulch]

**Command:** !slowmode

Description: Enable/disable slowmode
Cooldown: 6 seconds
Usage:
!slowmode channel [channel] [limit]
Example:
!slowmode channel #channel 1s

[white quarry]

Do it work

[stable matrix]

I would increase the amount of the scavenger to 12 tho, because you're already investing at least 3 to get to them

[idle notch]

um
it no work

[wintry ivy]

True kinda

Idk I think the idea of the twisted scavengers are a little wierx

I like them and all just a bit weird

[white quarry]

!slowmode #ror2-console-discussion 5s

[onyx mulch]

**Command:** !slowmode channel

Description: Enable/disable slowmode for a channel
Cooldown: 6 seconds
Usage:
!slowmode channel [channel] [time]
Example:
!slowmode channel #channel 1s

[white quarry]

OkY I can’t figure it out

[stable matrix]

And only unlock her if you convert on her in the normal way and beat mithrix on moonson

[wintry ivy]

I think you have to manually change it

[tidal cape]

Bot broken and also sori. I have too much power

[white quarry]

Can’t

Can only use commands

[wintry ivy]

Ah ok

[tidal cape]

I am the devil

[wintry ivy]

Interesting take

[stable matrix]

I like the environment a lot, it has a weird vibe and the scarvengers are supposed to be mithrix cultist

I meant those scarvengers

[wintry ivy]

I like the vibe too but I felt they were kinda rushed and just thrown in ina random location

[tidal cape]

I only wanna hear it said as scarvengers

[stable matrix]

Idk if rushed is the word Id use, but they feel underwhelming to be a "final" boss tbh

And I can't really see the "Mithrix cultist" theme on them

[hallow apex]

damn what happened

[hallow apex]

dang

[wintry ivy]

I think that's what I was looking for

[white quarry]

!slowmode channel #ror2-console-discussion 5s

Uh

It work?

[stable matrix]

They look cool tho

[stable matrix]

Nope, still 15s

[hallow apex]

not yet

[quartz bay]

whats popin console nation

[harsh flame]

Interesting, so you need a third question now? If I may suggest, perhaps “what characters from RoR1 do you plan to bring to RoR2?” (Please Chef lol)

[white quarry]

they will bring... commando

!slowmode discord #ror2-console-discussion 5s

well im out of ideas

[swift thorn]

We activated 3 mountain shrines and the teleporter didn’t spawn anything.

We still got the items at the end tho

[hallow apex]

average console run

[white quarry]

@coarse copper how fix slowmode

[wintry ivy]

Ok

[wintry ivy]

They do tho

[covert stirrup]

will the ror2 dlc on switch be improving the gameplay in general ? (because this game get heavy after a while)

[sweet edge]

It’s not changing the gameplay of…the game

[wintry ivy]

That shall be third

[humble grove]

gib shield man

[tardy ruin]

I’ll see you on the field of battle soon enough comrade!

[harsh flame]

Solid!!! Thank you, my friend! Keep fighting the good fight for us all!!

[harsh flame]

YES PLZ!! I didn’t even think of him lol, I’m ashamed

[harsh flame]

This is rather exciting, to say the very least!

[frail merlin]

#ror2-console-discussion without the cope

[wild thistle]

T minus 11 days

[twin igloo]

Funny, also had artefact of dissonance

Probably the most damage I've dealt in a hit

I have no idea though seeing as it wasn't looped

Died at the ship charge

I did more than a fith of my total damage in a single hit

Why the actual fuck is there a fifteen second cooldown

*slowmode

[frail merlin]

Ima done some artifact run

[twin igloo]

I need to like

Unlock the other ones

I've only got maybe half

[twin igloo]

No way bungus becomes viable November 8

Drones won't bump into you to stop the healing

We'll all be literally immortal because of this

[frail merlin]

Unlocking artifact is kinda annoying but at least better than those crabs

[twin igloo]

I haven't done that

I've gotten like just over halfway or something

Remember how I'm trying to eclipse 8 sawblade mul-t?

Yeah those crabs are the definition of stupid achievement

How many times do I need to go out of my way to do that

A lot of it is luck based to be fair because I usually don't dream but

Where is that cube

[surreal coral]

Is it November 8th yet?

[woeful bough]

Does the dlc drop at midnight on the 7th going into the 8th?

[sacred rose]

i have waited so long...soon i'll finally have shrimp for my double nail gun mul-t (damn mul-t is gonna go from S-tier to SSS-tier)

[tender shoal]

f to d

[dire bane]

Time zone dependent

Might drop on the 9th for some

[tulip sleet]

It’s the end times.

The release of sotv signals that the heat death of the universe is at hand.

[short iris]

So close....

[prime sky]

God is coming

[wintry ivy]

So @harsh flame I've learned something doing thos genocide

[woeful bough]

Change timezones work?

[wintry ivy]

Turns out that there's seems to be an exponential growth of enemies instead of a set amount and ik that the reason is because of the director but thing is at 4 hours in I only kill about 1k but at 6 hours not only does my game crash but I kill about 10k so idk math that well but that's a huge jump

[fierce juniper]

After the update, can’t we do eclipse with friend now?

[meager niche]

Yes we can.

[fierce juniper]

Yayyyyy

[tardy ruin]

It makes me so very happy to know it excites you so much!

[fierce juniper]

I am excited to help my friends attain eclipse 8!

[dire bane]

No

[gleaming oak]

We have a release date?

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-i-get-it-gif-27501363

[dire bane]

Yea

Go to announcements and scroll up

[fierce juniper]

@gleaming oak yeah November 8th, 2024. Still some waiting to do but at least we got a date 🤷‍♀️

[gleaming oak]

@wooden apex you seein this buddy

[wooden apex]

oh yeah i forgot to tell you ngl

[gleaming oak]

I'm going to flay you

[wooden apex]

:teehee:

[gleaming oak]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-angry-furious-choking-choke-gif-9806984

[wooden apex]

my faulttt raj

[fierce juniper]

Lol jk. IN A FEW WEEKSSS BABYYYYY

[dire bane]

11 days!

[fierce juniper]

Anyone know what time it will release? That way I can count the hours?

[dire bane]

I don't think we have one

But a good way to guess is earlier ror launch times

[sly thorn]

Go to the Events page, it should tell you what hour for your time zone

[dire bane]

LETS GO ITS DIRECTLY AFTER SCHOOL

For me

[sly thorn]

Mine happens during school. I won’t have to worry if it releases slightly late

[dire bane]

Well I gotta go home and shower so if it's late I'm good

[fierce juniper]

2pm it says…

[stuck jewel]

Yup 2pm 1hour and 10 minutes before I get out of school

[cunning needle]

Guys
Which character has the most ohio skibidi rizz

[hollow furnace]

gup

actually nvm

[supple kindle]

Yall think with the dlc coming, console crossplay could also come as well?

[cold radish]

How much is the dlc going to cost?

[cold radish]

I hope so

That would be so cool

[sly thorn]

No. It’s too hard and GB is overloaded already

[cold radish]

Party pooper 😦

[sly thorn]

Just make all your friends get a switch

[cold radish]

Xbox

[sly thorn]

I stand by what I said

[cold radish]

I rest my case that you are in fact a party pooper

[prisma mantle]

Unfortunately it's been confirmed it won't be soon, but it's not a no

[cold radish]

😦

How much will the dlc be anyways

[dire bane]

15

Probably going to be on Sale

[cold radish]

Cool

[fluid rapids]

So like maybe 10 or 12 when it comes out

DANG THE SLOWMODE IS A LOT

[molten pine]

A good price to pay for blindpest

[hallow apex]

wait where

wait i’m stupid nvm

[meager niche]

New slow mode timer?