ror2-modding

[vestal gulch]

That's fine

Yeah, you'd need quite a few feathers

[jade prairie]

Any performance mods aside from HolyDLL, Item display remover, CollisionLODoverride, light patcher, stickybomb stunter & stutterstunter?

[vestal gulch]

Nope

That's literally it

From there it's turning down your graphics settings or going into the game's config file and doing this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560893391630499871/802996052956545065/2021-01-24_21-18-12.mp4

[jade prairie]

wtf is that

resolution scale?

[vestal gulch]

700x300 or something like that

[jade prairie]

ah

I looked into the cvars and there doesnt seem to be a whole lot

FYI im not exactly desperate for additional FPS, 720p is very smooth and runs at 70+ fps most of the time, I'm just into this sort of thing

[hot echo]

btw, @vestal gulch do you wanna be credited for the jump reset idea?

[vestal gulch]

Nah, credit @reef yoke

[hot echo]

👌

[vestal gulch]

Frenc was the one who came up with the idea, I'm just the dude who put it into feedback

[meager raft]

how do I download a mod pack?

[vestal gulch]

Go to Thunderstore.io
Download R2Modman
Install R2Modman
From there, you can use the browser to install a modpack

Or better yet, build one yourself for better flexibility

[meager raft]

how do I install a mod pack using a code

OH nvm im dumb

[vestal gulch]

R2Modman

Then when creating a mod profile

Click on Import/Update -> Import New Profile -> Import from Code

[hot echo]

there we go
https://thunderstore.io/package/Ya_boi_PHAT/merc/

note: the config lists a few features that aren't actually available yet, so any that aren't mentioned in the change notes can be ignored

[vestal gulch]

Time to have some fun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936803148805312562.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[hot echo]

lemme know if it works!

if not, I probably fucked somethin up with the dll again

I've also been thinking about praymordis' idea to make the attacks that don't benefit from attack speed gain some other benefit from it

tho I'm not sure what benefit that would be

hitbox size is a funny candidate

[vestal gulch]

Funny, but Merc does not need more of that

[hot echo]

bro has dark souls 1 hitboxes

damage increasing with attack speed would be fucked as well

[vestal gulch]

Red Mist scales damage with MS and AS (Well, MS and AS are converted to damage), and if you've ever used Red Mist, well

[hot echo]

I have not

but I'm guessing it's absurdly powerful

[vestal gulch]

There's many reasons why Red Mist, while fun, is really strong
That passive is one of the reasons

[hot echo]

tbh I can't think of anything that you could scale with attack speed other than duration without breaking something

[vestal gulch]

Probably better to not bother with it then

[hot echo]

ya

o shit, mod manager recognized that the mod updated

[vestal gulch]

Aight, time to see if you uploaded the right one in my testing profile lel

[hot echo]

😎

note: all of the tweaks are enabled by default

so you will have
3rd m1 unaffected by attack speed
jumps reset on kill
and massacre with normal evis duration

and obviously you can toggle them on/off in the config

[vestal gulch]

Jump on kill works

[hot echo]

eyyyyyy

[vestal gulch]

But yeah you weren't kidding when you said it reset ground too

[hot echo]

ya, it looks cursed af, but it's also kinda fun

[vestal gulch]

Refresh on kill works

[hot echo]

fuck yeahhhh

mod woooorks \'O'/

[vestal gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936803148805312562.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[hot echo]

ngl, I was kinda worried that it was just gonna do nothing lmfao

[vestal gulch]

The only issue Evis has now is jumping to multiple targets, but Withor's working on that, so afterwards it should be good

[hot echo]

yup!

and if I can find someone who can figure out how to make WW and RT unaffected by attack speed, then we'll have all 5 tweaks done!

[rough tendon]

I lowkey wonder if theres such thing as a mod for mac compatibility 😩

[timid blaze]

Hitbox size is like really painful to edit
For some reason it's part of the character body, rather than anywhere in the attack itself which is just a

[vestal gulch]

I mean
There's Wine

[vestal gulch]

Also, just did a run
The tweaks are

[hot echo]

that is such a cursed way of doing hitboxes

[vestal gulch]

Amazing

[hot echo]

eyyyyyyy

once the full mod is done, I'm really looking forward to using the tweaks myself

[timid blaze]

Also, for that just replace the = 0 with -= 1 lol

[hot echo]

oh, that is absurdly simple

[timid blaze]

Could also add an if(jumpCount > 0) in front of that if you never want it to reset ground

[hot echo]

I'll probably do that, and make a config value for how many jumps it refunds on kill

[vestal gulch]

#lfg-pc-ror2

[hot echo]

tho I'll likely still keep the current version as a seperate config, just cus resetting the ground jump is very funny

[vestal gulch]

2 jumps for 1

[hot echo]

"fuck you physics! I do what I want!"

[vestal gulch]

Updating the description for CE would be cool too, though not immediately necessary

[timid blaze]

Also, no idea what happens if you go below 0, so that might be interesting

[hot echo]

ya, I could probably figure out how to add that in my spare time

t h e c o n f i g w a l l

[hot echo]

so uhhhhh, it continues giving you jumps, that you don't have

thus basically giving you hopoo feathers for killing things, until you hit the ground

and I'm not really sure how I'd set a minimum

[timid blaze]

Hm, interesting

[hot echo]

might keep it honestly, since it only applies to numbers higher than 1

[hot echo]

@vestal gulch updated the mod again, the OG jump reset is still there, but disabled by default, the new one gives you 1 jump back by default, and lets you adjust the amount

[vestal gulch]

Aight, cool

[hot echo]

note: if you put it as anything higher than 1, it can give you more jumps than you started with

tho you'll lose the extra jumps when you land

[vestal gulch]

Wheeze

[hot echo]

kinda weird, but also kinda neat

mostly cursed tho

"4/2 jumps" just doesn't look right

ah damnit hold on

I uploaded the wrong dll again

[vestal gulch]

lmao

[hot echo]

ok, well thunderstore said it uploaded, but the page hasn't updated yet

it should be 1.2.1 when you download it

[vestal gulch]

Coolio

[hot echo]

also, the dll for the mod is deadass still just "ExamplePlugin"

because I don't know how to change it, and I'm too lazy to look it up lmfao

aaand it's fuckin 1:42 AM, so imma sleep

[vestal gulch]

You should probably do that lel

Night dude

[hot echo]

👌

enjoy the tweaks!

the massacre one was really funny with high attack speed when I was testing

[vestal gulch]

Thanks for putting them into a mod

[hot echo]

no problem!

[stable ridge]

Anyone know how hard/easy it is to split a project into smaller mods

is there usually stuff that gets lost along the way or smth

[quaint sparrow]

So how do I know whether or not my mods are conflicting with one-another?-

Nothing really worrying happens with my game, but it does crash when quitting and I’ve experienced some some odd occurrences with modded content.

[timid swallow]

crashes on quit?
same
i think it happened after some msu update
and what kind of odd stuff?

[quaint sparrow]

Well, I unlocked a character that I needed to be on Monsoon to get (I was playing on Rainstorm, character was the… I can’t remember their name but it was apart of the Enforcer mod I believe.), there was a visual glitch with a few equipment items that were on the floor, where I’d pick them up but a ghost of them remained on the ground. Lastly, there was just a bunch of somewhat worrying text in the console that opens while playing, I’d have to play again to tell you exactly what it was saying but from memory, some things weren’t being found and a repeated message about something being invalid.

Sorry I can’t be better at explaining this-

[timid swallow]

So, Nemfocer, here's the thing, he is a part of Enforcer mod, he has an unlock condition there, but, he also has compatibility with starstorm, which changes the unlock condition to be the same as Nemmando's, without necessarily changing the wording.
equipments being "ghosts" is rather weird, you could go to tech support channel in modding discor dand try asking there, dont forget to post logoutput from that run

[quaint sparrow]

That helps a ton, thanks!

[quaint sparrow]

Man. The Dancer character mod combined with my desire for Forgotten Land really makes me want a Kirby character mod for this game, I think it'd fit surprisingly well--

If only I could make mods myself.

[mild remnant]

Is there a mod that lets you drop items?

[lavish dew]

no idea how that works or does it even work but here
https://thunderstore.io/package/tristanmcpherson/KookehsDropItem_BepInEx/

[timid swallow]

yeet

by thinkinvis

[lavish dew]

true

[mild remnant]

Ok thx

Do modpacks save config changes too

[timid swallow]

yup

[quaint sparrow]

I’m surprised that there isn’t a mod that allows you to play as a Scavenger yet.

[timid swallow]

monstermash

or you could just use debugtoolkit

and spawn_as Scavenger

[gentle violet]

is there a mod that completely removes distant roost

[quaint sparrow]

Alright well-

I’m surprised there isn’t a mod that lets you play as a scavenger that was specifically made to be playable-

MonsterMash looks like a really fun mod tho.

[solar crow]

Is there a mod to turn acrid into a frog?

[hollow abyss]

Is there a mod to make it so the game registers that there are more players in the game than there are (more boss drops and chests)

[lavish dew]

https://thunderstore.io/package/wildbook/Multitudes/

[jade prairie]

...guys uh ive forgotten to shift the teleporter 3 fucking times now ruining my loops is there a mod that can...help me

[hot echo]

so far I've had no luck with making WW or RT unaffected by attack speed

just changing the duration causes all sorts of issues

and any attempts to set the attack speed directly just don't do anything

[sonic osprey]

DebugToolkit

Or just like, go to the command artifact.

Or any artifact.

If you're looping there's no reason not to go to the command artifact IMO

[hot echo]

btw @timid blaze, lemme know if you ever figure out how to make whirlwind/rising thunder unaffected by attack speed, I've been trying for the past 3-ish hours with 0 progress

[timid blaze]

oh right, modding

[hot echo]

lmfao

[timid blaze]

yeah, i kinda forgot about that for today

i'll get to it in a bit

[hot echo]

noice

[vestal gulch]

Too busy with the vodka

[eager linden]

Some of my mods dont work and others do anyone know why or how to fix

[timid blaze]

you mean entirely unaffected? cause for that ya can do this

        public void Awake()
        {
            On.EntityStates.Merc.Uppercut.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
            {
                self.duration = Uppercut.baseDuration;
                orig(self);
            };
            On.EntityStates.Merc.WhirlwindAir.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
            {
                self.duration = self.baseDuration;
                orig(self);
            };
            On.EntityStates.Merc.WhirlwindGround.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
            {
                self.duration = self.baseDuration;
                orig(self);
            };
        }

[hot echo]

I'll try that out!

[timid blaze]

already tested this time, so it works

[hot echo]

yoooo

[timid blaze]

just gotta double check to make sure you insert the code correctly i guess

[hot echo]

holy shit ty

[timid blaze]

you're welcome

[hot echo]

now as soon as the code to make evis single target is done, the mod will be 100% finished

[timid blaze]

right, wanted to write that too

[timid blaze]

a

[hot echo]

you can send it as a text document

[timid blaze]

here

[hot echo]

eyy

[timid blaze]

i actually just copied most of the fixedUpdate code to change a single line cause i don't know IL

[hot echo]

I mean hey, if it works, it works lmfao

these 2 errors popped up, any idea how I fix them?

[timid blaze]

ah, yeah

here are my using thingies, just add any you don't have rn

using BepInEx;
using R2API;
using R2API.Utils;
using RoR2;
using RoR2.CharacterAI;
using System.Linq;
using UnityEngine;
using EntityStates.Merc;
using UnityEngine.Networking;

[hot echo]

👌

[nimble field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/804116380227338281.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

yeah same i mostly just change numbers

[hot echo]

btw, @timid blaze do you wanna be credited as your full discord discord tag, or just Withor?

[timid blaze]

might as well do my full tag

[hot echo]

will do

[timid blaze]

one sec though, will get rid of the Lady since that jokes getting a bit old

[timid blaze]

done

[hot echo]

noice

eyyyy it works

[jade prairie]

anybody wanna do a modded run with some modded arts? if so the server adress is 109775240988471708

[vestal gulch]

#lfg-pc-ror2

[hot echo]

@vestal gulch any ideas for a good icon for the mod?

[vestal gulch]

Uhhhhhh

[nimble field]

just take a photomode mod screenshot and edit it, add in some text idk

[hot echo]

fair enough

[nimble field]

I would've named it MercenaryTweaks if I were you

you can still ask in #thunderstore to deprecate that mod and then you can upload it under a different name

[timid blaze]

merc is funny tho

[hot echo]

noice

[vestal gulch]

Me when merc

[hot echo]

the current planned name is MercTweaks

tho MercenaryTweaks would work fine as well

[timid blaze]

one day, once i've finished my alphabet arc, i will ask them to deprecate all of them at once to reupload

[vestal gulch]

What will C be is the question

[timid blaze]

I'm at D now, C was customisable spawn wave interval

[vestal gulch]

Ah

[timid blaze]

I don't know why that has more downloads than the mult thing

[vestal gulch]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People can't bear the idea of PM being balanced it seems

[nimble field]

[hot echo]

here's the icon for the new mod, thought it looked nice :D

[vestal gulch]

MEMORIES BROKEN THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN

[hot echo]

now I just need the old mod deprecated so I can upload the new one

[timid blaze]

Add a bunch of random filters to it

[timid swallow]

man the fact you can't just rename the mod on thunderstore is just aaaaaa

[hot echo]

I mean, I could probably just upload it come to think of it

cus this one has
-a new README
-a new manifest
-a new dll
-a different version
-and a new icon+name

[viral musk]

i have a question why cant my friend join my lobby

[timid swallow]

do you have the same mods? shared with a code?

[viral musk]

yes

[hot echo]

@timid blaze fried boi

[stray tundra]

ah yes

[vestal gulch]

A good rule of thumb for hosting with mods in multiplayer
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and config
Some mods are old, so they may not have the needed tags, so in that case read their thunderstore pages
You can also make sure your friends have the exact same mods and configs by using profile sharing with R2Modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager

[viral musk]

what?

[timid blaze]

Good.

[hot echo]

@timid blaze you should use this one as the icon for your next mod

looks like a weird indie album cover

[vestal gulch]

The bulb

[viral musk]

i am confused @vestal gulch

wdym

[vestal gulch]

Make sure both you and your friend have the exact same mods and configs

Then invite them directly into the multiplayer game

[viral musk]

how do we check configs

ok

[vestal gulch]

Just use profile sharing via code

[viral musk]

ok

[vestal gulch]

It'll do the job

[timid swallow]

using lobby code also works

[hot echo]

gonna use the unedited icon for the mod, but I will definitely admit that the filtered one looks fuckin funny

[stray tundra]

it does lmao

i have the power to make this even worse because thats what i do lmao

[nimble field]

maybe add some text with the mods name

[vestal gulch]

M E R C

[hot echo]

maybe, but thunderstore tends to make the text really smol due to the size of the icons

[vestal gulch]

Nah, Withor does it fine

[stray tundra]

here you go

this is probably the last thing you see before you die lmao

[hot echo]

scp lookin mfer

[vestal gulch]

Could this be god himself?

[stray tundra]

i think it is

[nimble field]

sugnales moment
||I made that icon||

[vestal gulch]

Funny

[hot echo]

withor's next mod

[vestal gulch]

Key here is make the words very beeg

[vestal gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936803148805312562.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

Can't wait

[stray tundra]

ill take your entire stock

[vestal gulch]

Wait damn HIFU

[nimble field]

🤨

[timid swallow]

crewmate

[stray tundra]

LMAO

and now rex is drunk lmao

[hot echo]

for some reason that filter kinda makes it look like an irl figurine

[vestal gulch]

REX Lego figure when

[hot echo]

a compressed one, but still lol

[stray tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-distorted-gif-17727873

[hot echo]

mod is released!

[stray tundra]

nice

[hot echo]

lemme know if something breaks horribly

[stray tundra]

will do

[vestal gulch]

yes

[hot echo]

yooo, that's actually fuckin sick!

[hot echo]

@vestal gulch have you gotten a chance to try the full mod yet?

[vestal gulch]

No, not yet
I've been drawing

[hot echo]

ohh neat

whenever you get around to it, lemme know how it goes!

[vestal gulch]

Will do!

[pale totem]

...

[hollow burrow]

Anyone know what this is and how to get it?

Same for this thing.

Dunno what mods I installed for them to show up, but they're here.

[prisma oracle]

they are both from Forgotten Relics, the top will spawn randomly in a stage alongside a broken teleporter and the bottom is an item you get from using the Shrine of Tar on the mod's alternate stage 2

[hollow burrow]

Aight.

As for the Enigma Box?
It's got a 60 second cooldown and can happen to use any equipment, and looks like something out of Bulwark's Ambry.

[mossy lagoon]

it's from fixedspawndissonance, you have to have the enigma artifact on,

it makes enigma artifact more like ror1

[hollow burrow]

Ah.

[mossy lagoon]

can disable the change if you want

[vestal gulch]

Well, the single-target code works well
But

It might be interfering with the massacre code

Since on-kill, Evis just keeps me in one spot after resetting the duration, and doesn't try to hop over to another target

Though this did occur after attempting to disable the single-target fix too

[hot echo]

as in, you stay in place as it hits the other target, or just doesn't hit anything else?

[vestal gulch]

Doesn't hit anything else
I kill one target, then it resets the duration but keeps me there in that spot

[hot echo]

hmm

I'll have to ask withor about that tomorrow

upon a bit of testing myself, it will also just keep attacking the dead body of whatever you killed, so ya, definitely not working as intended

[vestal gulch]

Yep

[hot echo]

as far as it continuing even after being disabled
turns out I forgot to add the if statement

so I'll update that real quick

[vestal gulch]

Aight

[hot echo]

there we go

tomorrow when I get up I'll ask withor about the issues with the single-target

[vestal gulch]

Coolio

[hot echo]

new version is 1.0.1

[vestal gulch]

Saw it

[hot echo]

👍

ping me with any more bugs you find, and I'll read through em' tomorrow

[vestal gulch]

Will do

Though this is the only one I can say I've found so far

[agile chasm]

is there a mod that adds more eclipse levels?

[vestal gulch]

Nope
there is a mod that'll make it more hellish though, kinda

[agile chasm]

coping, seething, malding

i assume you mean syzygy?

[vestal gulch]

DiluvianArtifact adds all Eclipse modifiers as an artifact

[agile chasm]

syzygy just seems not fun imho. not being able to full clear is just

[vestal gulch]

So from there, you can go Syzgy or use some other difficulty mod, like UntitledDifficultyMod

[stable ridge]

groovesalads(?) difficulty mod has a config to make eclipse be based on a harder difficulty

[timid blaze]

Hm, guess i'll have to look at the massacre code then

[sharp sluice]

Anyone here using BetteruI with a custom sort string?

[timid blaze]

oh lord, i hate this

might be an easy fix though

[stable ridge]

I use
501243
1S36

Cuz I really don't like how the untiered items are the most top left thing in the default config because they're the least important ones and just personally prefer Lunar -> Boss -> Red instead of Yellow -> Lunar -> Red.
Else just Scrap at the most last place of a given tier instead of most last place of all items because I like having it sorted by tier

[timid blaze]

@hot echo finally got to coding it and it works fine now

this was like such an easy fix, i have no idea why it wasn't originally programmed this way

full code

        private void MassacreCode(DamageReport rep)
        {
            CharacterBody attackerBody = rep.attackerBody;
            EntityState entityState;
            if (attackerBody == null)
            {
                entityState = null;
            }
            else
            {
                EntityStateMachine component = attackerBody.GetComponent<EntityStateMachine>();
                entityState = ((component != null) ? component.state : null);
            }
            EntityState entityState2 = entityState;
            Evis evis = entityState2 as Evis;
            bool flag = evis != null && rep.attackerBody && Vector3.Distance(rep.attackerBody.transform.position, rep.victim.transform.position) < Evis.maxRadius;
            if (flag)
            {
                Evis nextState = new Evis();
                attackerBody.GetComponent<EntityStateMachine>().SetNextState(nextState);
            }
        }

it just sets your state to evis again once you kill an enemy, instead of editing the duration which is like really weird anyways

could probably actually get rid of some of the code above it now, but i'm too lazy to look into it

hm, wonder if i could get it to target the enemy with the lowest health

[nimble field]

savage mercenary

[timid blaze]

perhap

[timid blaze]

@nimble field this is the most complex code i wrote in months, do you think this'll work?

it don't, fuck

oh, the > is the wrong way round, isn't it

YESSSSS

I FEEL SO FUCKING SMART RN

@hot echo also replace the OnEnter code with this

            On.EntityStates.Merc.Evis.OnEnter += (orig, self) =>
            {
                orig(self);
                BullseyeSearch bullseyeSearch = new BullseyeSearch();
                bullseyeSearch.searchOrigin = self.transform.position;
                bullseyeSearch.searchDirection = UnityEngine.Random.onUnitSphere;
                bullseyeSearch.maxDistanceFilter = Evis.maxRadius;
                bullseyeSearch.teamMaskFilter = TeamMask.GetUnprotectedTeams(TeamComponent.GetObjectTeam(self.gameObject));
                bullseyeSearch.sortMode = BullseyeSearch.SortMode.Distance;
                bullseyeSearch.RefreshCandidates();
                bullseyeSearch.FilterOutGameObject(self.gameObject);
                IEnumerable<HurtBox> a = bullseyeSearch.GetResults();
                target = a.FirstOrDefault<HurtBox>();
                for(int i = 0; i < a.Count<HurtBox>(); i++)
                {
                    float health = a.ElementAt(i).healthComponent.health;
                    if(health < target.healthComponent.health)
                    {
                        target = a.ElementAt<HurtBox>(i);
                    }
                }
            };

makes it focus low health enemies first for max resets

[sharp sluice]

Can you try a beta version of BetterUI to see if your sort strings still work correctly?

I changed the algorithm for interpreting and applying the sort string, so I need to double check that old sort strings still work the same way

so anyone with a custom sort string who could try the new version to see if it works the same as old, would be very helpful

or anyone who can check the default sort behaviour would be helpful too

[sharp sluice]

Beta version in case someone wants to try it, either move the DLL in or you can import the zip as a local mod in r2modman. please let me know if you've tried it, if the sorting still works fine or if there are any issues

[wise ferry]

Heads up that the manifest stuff has all been super slimmed down now

Just needs this now https://github.com/ebkr/r2modmanPlus/wiki/Installing-mods-locally#manifest-v1-thunderstore--author-field

so this would be the new manifest

[short rock]

Stack trace:
System.Reflection.Assembly.GetTypes () (at <2fa7a6a452ca43df998f07fd1486c0df>:IL_0000)
Moonstorm.ModuleBase.GetContentClasses[T] (System.Type excludedType) (at <831b48e6dbf54c1192c10ba199945be5>:IL_0018)
Moonstorm.SceneModuleBase.InitializeScenes () (at <831b48e6dbf54c1192c10ba199945be5>:IL_002B)
Moonstorm.Starstorm2.Scenes.Scenes.InitializeScenes () (at <3dd32d66e26d4d13abeac93d379471b9>:IL_0000)
Moonstorm.Starstorm2.Scenes.Scenes.Init () (at <3dd32d66e26d4d13abeac93d379471b9>:IL_001D)
Moonstorm.Starstorm2.Starstorm2Content+<>c.<LoadStaticContentAsync>b__18_0 () (at <3dd32d66e26d4d13abeac93d379471b9>:IL_0005)
Moonstorm.Starstorm2.Starstorm2Content+<LoadStaticContentAsync>d__18.MoveNext () (at <3dd32d66e26d4d13abeac93d379471b9>:IL_0244)
HG.Coroutines.ParallelProgressCoroutine+<InternalCoroutine>d__13.MoveNext () (at <e6a10261304544b28d600f4ad48b78df>:IL_007F)
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Had this message and the game wont start.
I know its about Starstorm 2 so im just raising awareness about this. I just got the most recent update that Starstorm 2 was asking for through the mod manager.

Had StarStorm 2 disabled and it works fine

[vestal gulch]

Revert MoonstormSharedUtils to 0.6.0 or 0.7.0 if you have that

[short rock]

👍
thanks (^ - ^)

[sharp sluice]

ah thanks for letting me know, is it just the same as thunderstore manifest now? I feel like I suggested this some time ago ;p

[hot echo]

hoooooolyyyyyy shit

now that's how eviscerate is supposed to be!

godddd that's gonna be amazing at high attack speed

@vestal gulch did you see the clip withor posted?

[vestal gulch]

Yes

[hot echo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935286127932366888/936860731557707837/image0.gif

[timid swallow]

dude i
could just cast winds once and they would die in 0.15 seconds
what is this bullshit

[hot echo]

lemme get on my pc so I can put the code in

[hot echo]

tbf, most of the other tweaks in the mod allow merc to take attack speed without downsides

plus you have iframes for that entire time

[timid blaze]

you could probably also add a config for stuff like evis damage, max range, etc

[hot echo]

tru

[vestal gulch]

Hence this change to at least try and put Evis on SW's level

[hot echo]

it'll also almost always benefit from focus crystals

while also keeping you 100% invincible in the process

meaning it'll have a sort of snowball effect

[prisma oracle]

meta slave 😬

[timid swallow]

meta
im just not feeling like getting locked outside of interacting with things

[hot echo]

@timid blaze uhhhhh

[hot echo]

with the massacre code you can cancel it by holding the ability button

and as soon as an enemy dies, you're out of it

very handy

[vestal gulch]

Phat was given permission to use the massacre code from Scepter

[hot echo]

^^^

which is fucking awesome

cus I loved that upgrade in ror1

[timid swallow]

destroyed clone based

[vestal gulch]

Obviously without the 2x duration part

[hot echo]

ya, I figured with the other buffs we were adding, 2x duration without the need for the item was a bit much

@timid blaze so, there are currently 3 errors, all of them are "The type or namespace name 'x' could not be found", 2 for EntityState, and one for IEnumerable<>, how do I fix those?

I'm guessing I'm missing a "using" like last time

[timid blaze]

yeah, you can actually just click on show potential fixes and often enough it just fixes it for you

[hot echo]

oh cool

[timid blaze]

for the entity state stuff you'll probably get the option between just entityState, On.EntityState and IL.EntityState; pick the regular one

[hot echo]

yup, just added
using EntityStates;
using System.Collections.Generic;
and boom

[timid blaze]

nicu

[outer dew]

I'm having some fun issues setting up a laptop with r2modman, it's doing the prompt for asking for a directory file, but then when I set it to the "D:\Gaems\steamapps\common" file, it says it can't use it since the file ain't empty, What am I doin' wrong here?

[wise ferry]

you clicked "Change data directory"

if you're trying to locate the game directory, click the "Change Risk of Rain 2 directory" setting

[outer dew]

Yeap jsut realizes

[hot echo]

@timid blaze do you know if damagecoefficient is written like
100% base damage = 1.0 coeff
or
100% base damage = 100 coeff

[timid blaze]

1.0

[hot echo]

gotcha

[eager linden]

some of my mods work when I run the game and others dont any idea why this is happening?

[timid blaze]

could also add an option to give it slayer perhap

[wise ferry]

yeah exactly the same but with an author field

it does also work with regular manifest v1, and instead looks up the author based on the zip name

EG: author-modname-x.y.z.zip

[hot echo]

sooo, apparently 1.1 is considered a double, not a float

but Evis.damageCoefficient is a float

[timid blaze]

1.1f works

[hot echo]

ohhh

ty

[timid blaze]

yeah, i went through all of that as well

[hot echo]

I started learning how to program with python

so learning C# has been a wild ride

[timid blaze]

i never learned how to program

[hot echo]

it be like that tbh

[hot echo]

also, how do I do that, because that sounds like a really fun combo with the targeting you added

[timid blaze]

just do damageInfo.damageType = DamageType.BonusToLowHealth; during the damage section, probably in an if statement if you want a config option

[hot echo]

👌

[hot echo]

from what I can tell, everything works, so imma update the mod

[timid blaze]

hell yeah

[vestal gulch]

Yee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936803148805312562.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[hot echo]

lmfao, I gotta update it again cus I noticed a typo on the mod page

"give you a jump"

[timid blaze]

add more typos

[timid swallow]

https://youtu.be/jRB5YouHaYA

jump goodd

[drowsy torrent]

Ye, the Mod is to help with just that. Quality of Life such as Interactive Distance, Jump Boosts (because some Monsters/Bosses dont have enough jumping power to go over certain obstacles), and Health Regen. Other than that the Monsters are playable as is.

[timid blaze]

jump goooddd

[drowsy torrent]

Also gonna remove the Passive Traits once the update hits, I'll just make a separate mod for that

[versed sinew]

thank you for noticing me

[vestal gulch]

tail

[versed sinew]

I also noticed that you noticed the same mod

[vestal gulch]

I used it when I was recording a clip to demonstrate a GroovySkills skill

[hot echo]

big sh0rk tail

[versed sinew]

yee

try my other skins, they all have tails

[vestal gulch]

There is a Kitsune skin in another skinpack for Merc
However
Its tail does not move

[versed sinew]

weak

show me anyway

[vestal gulch]

Gimme a sec

[versed sinew]

cute

could use some physics though

[vestal gulch]

There's like, a slight shake

So it does have jigglebones or whatever the hell

But it's not like
Big

[versed sinew]

I like my Merc skin more

and this one too

[hot echo]

ok hear me out
fluffy fox merc
with a big ol' tail
with physics and keyframes
so it moves with him when he do the flip

[vestal gulch]

I found this one very contested by that neoavali one

[versed sinew]

okay that one is good tbh

I like Neo

[vestal gulch]

Yeah

[vestal gulch]

Yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936803148805312562.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[jade prairie]

is there a mod that nerfs brass contraption

[jade prairie]

👍

[vestal gulch]

Just like, walk left or right
But here
https://thunderstore.io/package/ChefWasTaken/BrassContraptionNerf/

[timid blaze]

Gonna make one that buffs them

[vestal gulch]

Perfect

That is now D

Donk

[timid blaze]

Drass Dontraption

[vestal gulch]

y e s

[versed sinew]

I wish more games had mods that gave characters tails

it's why I learned to mod this game myself

[vestal gulch]

Obligatory furry joke<

[timid blaze]

Every survivor should have a tail tbh

Enemies too

Hell, give the items tails

[vestal gulch]

Except Cautious Slug
It technically already has one

[hot echo]

I can neither confirm nor deny this accusation

[vestal gulch]

Yes

[versed sinew]

I am indeed a furry

[vestal gulch]

Hmmmm

[hot echo]

went ahead and updated MercenaryTweaks, the plugin name and version in the dll was completely outdated, which made the config use the old name

more of a pet peeve than anything, but it only took like 30 seconds to fix

[timid swallow]

read that as pet steeve

well I guess bugs are kinda cute

[frail stream]

how would i be able to use this (i looked up a table with item ids, but idk how to make the numbers work)

[jade prairie]

so i was playing with mods and for some reason when i tried to play as mithrix the helmet and armor was not there

god that is creepy

[timid swallow]

yonkeer

[jade prairie]

ok

[hot echo]

nemesis pepsiman

[hot echo]

finally got a chance to try out the tweaks

and omfg the 3 evis changes all at once feel sooo goooood

I'm never taking off evis as long as I have this mod enabled holy fuuuuuck

(I mean, I'll probably use SW again sometime, just cus being able to attack while it's active is cool af too)

[jade prairie]

yoinky sploinky

[onyx trench]

What I find really odd about modding the game is that it feels so much harder and yet I always get so much farther on my modded runs than vanilla

[jade prairie]

So, I have a bit of a problem with my modpack, and would like some assistance

Problem 1 - ZetAspects is busted. The aspect names and descriptions do not appear properly. They only appear as something along the lines of "zetaspect_elitepowerlightning_item" along with the description. Statistically, they function as intended, however there is a new elite aspect added by another mod - the Sanguine aspect (Bloody Fealty) - that also should be affected by ZetAspects, but isnt. Not only that, the sanguine aspect doesn't apply bleeds like it should, only the short distance teleport seems to work... barely.
Problem 2 - Upon defeating Mithrix and finishing the escape ship sequence, the game blackscreens when the ending cutscene begins. It is not possible to skip it while in this state, but pressing ESC pauses the game and brings up the mouse. The buttons in the pause menu are still clickable with the mouse under the black screen. The only way to exit is to find either the 'quit to menu' or 'quit to desktop' buttons and click them.

Any idea what could be causing this? If this is not the right place to ask for tech-support regarding mods, I will delete this and ask elsewhere.

[devout turret]

Ya know, this could work out if somebody modded Arti into a flip whenever she does ion surge too

It gives like the perfect vibes

[devout turret]

Sanguine elites are pretty new to the elite pool in terms of the others like frenzy and blighted, so it sounds like you have a conflict that is causing you a pretty big issue with them since it's a 100% bleed per hit. I'd grab your log from the run. I'd also suggest going to the modding discord and asking there

[jade prairie]

I'll try my luck in the modding discord then. But yes, the sanguine aspect is completely busted since neither enemies or the player applies any bleed with that aspect, plus some of the enemies seem to rapidly spam the teleport in place

Thanks anyway

[timid blaze]

savage beeble made it yay

[hot echo]

MercenaryTweaks
LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOO

[stiff steeple]

EnemiesWithItems seems to be doing something weird with giving enemies a shitton of items
I can start stage 6 and see a stone golem getting flung around by its own momentum and barely be able to kill basic enemies

which seems to be a combination of lots of teddies and lots of shield generators

[bleak steeple]

gents can anyone confirm what language ror2 is in

[hot echo]

C#

[bleak steeple]

hell yeah the cool language

[hot echo]

the fuckin v o i d language

[bleak steeple]

ive been workin w/ gsc which im pretty sure is C++ based so it cant be that far off

[timid blaze]

cool language

[bleak steeple]

bro this formatting gunna send me to my deathbed

prob cause i still kinda new

[hot echo]

dear god please do not take that image to heart I'm begging you
edit: the actual formatting looks a bit more like this (this code just makes merc's secondaries ignore attack speed btw)

   {
        On.EntityStates.Merc.Uppercut.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
        {
            self.duration = Uppercut.baseDuration;
            orig(self);
        };
        On.EntityStates.Merc.WhirlwindAir.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
        {
            self.duration = self.baseDuration;
            orig(self);
        };
        On.EntityStates.Merc.WhirlwindGround.PlayAnim += (orig, self) =>
        {
            self.duration = self.baseDuration;
            orig(self);
        };
    }```
(discord has also kinda squished it a bit)

[bleak steeple]

you gents are some cursed people i dont think i can associate with such atrocities of formatting

[timid blaze]

@bold parcel so, uh, it might be a little hard to actually talk about programming with a 5 minute slow mode, is it really necessary in this channel?

[bold parcel]

unless you want the entire server in here spamming cos its the only channel without slowmode

its best to keep it on

[bleak steeple]

theres always gotta be that one guy who ruins the fun for everyone by spamming

[stiff steeple]

unfortunate

[bleak steeple]

watching ror2 lifestream during coding class

[ocean karma]

are we not friends

[nimble field]

there's already your mods in there tho

[lusty raptor]

-= POSSIBILITY OF PRECIPITATION II =-
a curated pack focused on mods that enhance the vanilla experience with minimal changes to overall balance, all meticulously configured to perfection
suitable for solo and co-op

MODLIST

IHarbHD-DebugToolkit-3.6.1
AutoSkipIntroCutscene-1.0.3
QuickRestart-1.3.5
BossEquipmentFix-1.2.0
WolfoQualityOfLife-1.6.3
FixedSpawnDissonance-1.4.3
BetterUI-2.4.0
FixedDescriptions-1.0.0
Pingprovements-1.7.0
LobbyVotesSave-1.2.1
FasterPickupText-1.0.0
BossAntiSoftlock-1.0.0
VoidFieldsQoL-1.0.2
BalancedObliterateRedux-1.1.0
ChatboxEdit-1.0.0
LunarCoinShareOnPickup-3.6.1
NoBackButtonLobby-1.0.0
DiscordRichPresence-3.0.0
TooManyFriends-1.1.1
TMFBalancedInteractables-1.0.1
BossDropRewardDelay-1.1.0
SnowyGolems-2.0.0```

hosting a 16 player lobby in NA East [#562066686023434250](/guild/417739215355510784/channel/562066686023434250/)

*import this profile to r2modman*:

[next copper]

@slender walrus I know this isn't really your area anymore, but do you know anything along the lines of the DLC and Modding?
Some of us were a bit concerned as to whether or not things will break. If you nor the devs actually know, that's a-okay, just wanted to ask just in case though.

[mossy lagoon]

it willl break

[nimble field]

they prolly rewrote elites and rulebook

as well as adding addressables ofc

[slender walrus]

a lot of stuff is definitely going to break. the engine was upgraded to 2019.4, for one. everything also uses addressables now, though there's a solution that was worked out between myself and some folks in the modding community to make sure Resources.Load continues to function.

rulebook didn't get rewritten, but RuleChoiceDef now supports some new stuff like being able to specify an ExpansionDef that the players need to have voted to enable for that rule choice to become available

I didn't have time to change elite stuff, and I don't think it had been changed by the time I left

[stable ridge]

Can we just straight up make our own ExpansionDef

[slender walrus]

yes

[next copper]

Oke, thanks for lettin' me know

[slender walrus]

one of the things I was pushing for was making old versions available through steam beta branches for mod preservation purposees. I dunno how that's gonna shake out

[uncut shadow]

Anyone else using TwistedLoopMod and CleansableLunars? I have cleansed Beads of Fealty (not exactly sure what it does) and when i obliterate i get unity error

[stable ridge]

that's what cleansed beads does

[next copper]

You got punished for helping the mod community stay afloat and promoting the game essentially?

[uncut shadow]

Hmm

[slender walrus]

not even remotely

[stable ridge]

also yeah It'd be cool to have these publically available just for archive purposes

not sure what they're even for if not the community

[next copper]

I just want access to those ancient maps I saw

So we can mod 'em into the game since they're clearly not being used lmao

[slender walrus]

I think we made those in case we needed to check on how things were in certain releases

things like comparing how the game looked or felt?

[stable ridge]

yeah that'd be cool for the community especially for cu_0

[slender walrus]

my god man they're not even maps lol

they're maplets

[next copper]

Yeah but

[slender walrus]

mapletlets

[next copper]

content,,,,

[slender walrus]

I'm pretty sure you can make more interesting content than that all on your own

[next copper]

Probably
We'd have to kick the Map-Maker section alive though, they've been dead for a while

I think everyone has been still, waiting for the DLC drop because we're in the dark, I think, as to what to change to ensure mods maintain stability before update

[slender walrus]

hopefully the switch to addressables should help, as it'll allow map authors to more easily use assets from the base game

[autumn mantle]

yea but they're cool
cute little maps, funny little guys

[next copper]

Also that old hud

We have had BARELY any HUD mods, and only ONE of them actually changes the positions of some things to the center

NOBODY wants to make hud mods >:c

[autumn mantle]

TRUE!

[next copper]

Can we AT LEAST have the old hud

[slender walrus]

maybe the assets will show up in the assetbundles that ship with the game? but it'd be massively incomplete. there wouldn't be any robot arm models to hold up the ally display, difficulty/artifacts/timer display, or the objective display

and it gets fiddly with stuff that's added dynamically like the monster info panel you get in void fields and with artifact of kin

[next copper]

Oh those are part of it??
Whoa I didn't even see that

I was focused on just the ROR1 look because it looks super clean with ROR2's color palette overall

it's also nice and darker compared to the current

[sharp nacelle]

beach map 😔

[next copper]

aaa

[slender walrus]

the dark beetles were pretty cool

iirc they had some slight iridescence on their shell

[sharp nacelle]

from what im getting from this, does this mean that SotV (and potentially future dlcs) has an in-game toggle in lobby?

[slender walrus]

yes

[next copper]

[sharp nacelle]

damn, nice.

[next copper]

So much cool unused stuff

Ghor, activate your evil arc, we won't tell anyone

Though in all seriousness

We could probably recreate some of those maps from the screenshots alone, it would just take time.

And you were right, the old HUD is in the assets, it's just that nobody has made a mod with them yet apparently

[slender walrus]

I bet it'd be a huge pain in the ass

[torpid charm]

You could just download the depot of all the past updates

[next copper]

Bhaha no kiddin'
Especially considering it's rare for map mods to show up

[slender walrus]

I mean the hud

[next copper]

Oh to reimplement it?
Mmm

Maybe the robot arms and that jazz would be rough

That'd be some careful placement, especially with FOV changes (or mods that change FOV) as well

Granted, I'm not that well versed in these matters as I'd like to be
But I defo think the HUD would be vastly easier to reimplement, but I do agree it would still be a pain in the ass considering I've heard some moddevs say that the HUD is mean and does NOT like change

[nimble field]

there will be a lot more when the baker doesnt suck tho

[next copper]

Why WERE there so many changes that seem like downgrades anyway?
The motion blur is gone (Which, isn't really too bad, but some people like it)
The old fire effect looked so much more aggressive and threatening (actual fire lmao)
other stuff

Was it just to make it feel more like a ROR game instead of "look we ported ROR1 to 3d using Unity even though we're the actual devs"

Cuz, I can defo understand that sometimes you gotta make artistic choices to preserve the feeling of the previous game xd

[nimble field]

no AA option just cause the devs didnt like it is painful too

[next copper]

Anti-Aliasing?
Wait we don't have that option?

Lmao I don't think I even noticed

At least it didn't come with like
Chromatic Abberation or fuckin' "Filter Grain"

[slender walrus]

for motion blur, I think we just decided we didn't want it

[next copper]

100% fair

[slender walrus]

iirc the old fire effect was considered a little too intense

like, in the horrifying sense?

[next copper]

Oh yeah I get what you mean

I like the old look of it BECAUSE of how intense it was, but it probably was performance costly as well?

[slender walrus]

at the time, it definitely did affect perf. can't remember if we changed the effect before or after we switched to the deferred rendering pipeline

[next copper]

Ah oke
Just was curious as to some of the changes
I've been really wanting to ask the devs these kinds of questions since Woolie sorta didn't bother with them

[slender walrus]

well, I definitely like talking about the stuff that I can

[next copper]

[clever pelican]

hey ih guys..
i want to get mods.. but ive never mods a game before.
i found the paladin is safe to play with my friend that dont use mod.
but how to we install them?

[vestal gulch]

It's very easy for RoR2
Go to Thunderstore.io
Download R2Modman
Install R2Modman

If Windows Defender (Windows is what I'm assuming you're using) shows a positive for a virus, it's a false positive

R2Modman's creator, Ebkr, has clarified why

[clever pelican]

ok and R2Modman is safe to play with my friend

[vestal gulch]

Yeah, have them install it too

[nimble field]

well its a mod that adds content so it shouldnt work with unmodded players

however, he can also get r2modman
you then go into settings => export profile as code and give it to him

[vestal gulch]

A good rule of thumb for hosting with mods in multiplayer
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and config
Some mods are old, so they may not have the needed tags, so in that case read their thunderstore pages
You can also make sure your friends have the exact same mods and configs by using profile sharing with R2Modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager

Oh, yeah Paladin mod both players will need it

[clever pelican]

oh so when it says fully multiplayer. its still mean with other people that mods

[stark sigil]

I have a question

can I launch the game with mods disabled without uninstalling the mods?

I use mod manager

[vestal gulch]

Yes
Launch from Steam or click "Launch Unmodded"

[stark sigil]

where is this Launch Unmodded?

[vestal gulch]

You're using R2Modman, right?

[stark sigil]

RoR2 Mod Manager

got it from thunderstore

[vestal gulch]

That one
Is really outdated

Uninstall it and use R2Modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager

[stark sigil]

alright ill do that

[clever pelican]

damn it lol
i still have to unluck the paladins in game

[frail stream]

I am once again asking for assistance

[stiff steeple]

bringing this up again because I can't figure out how to mess with this in the config and the mod page makes no mention of this

I otherwise really like the mod but as it currently is for me it makes looping impossible because enemies overkill me by 10s or even 100s of thousands of dmaage

[frail stream]

can somebody help me with having items in my inventory before the game starts (via a certain mod (i am using R2modman))

[cunning trout]

Why don't you use startingitemsGUI instead?

[mossy lagoon]

pretty sure its bugged

[sonic osprey]

StartingItemsGUI works fine. Or at least the free mode does. I use it all the time for testing stuff.

[wary raven]

What mods work on multiplayer servers? I wanna play lobbies but i guess the mods I have must make it so I can't.

[mossy lagoon]

need the unmoddedversion mod

and only clientside mods work

like betterui, autoskipintrocutscene, vrmod, quickrestart, showequipment, healthbarimmune, randomcharacterselection, etc

[coarse crag]

I'd say probably just play with people who have the same mods installed as you lol

[vestal gulch]

A good rule of thumb for hosting with mods in multiplayer
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and config
Some mods are old, so they may not have the needed tags, so in that case read their thunderstore pages
You can also make sure your friends have the exact same mods and configs by using profile sharing with R2Modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager

[wary raven]

I would assume mods that add new characters such as the paladin or goku would be client side? or would I be wrong.

[vestal gulch]

No, required on client and server

[dawn schooner]

How do you cheat in unlockables for modded characters?

cause I am suffering trying to do stuff for enforcer and I'm getting lazy

Please I am begging

[vestal gulch]

https://thunderstore.io/package/TheMysticSword/CheatUnlocks/

[haughty brook]

fuck you

[vestal gulch]

lmfao

[mossy lagoon]

owned

[elder burrow]

destroyed

[rose ruin]

the metal gear referernces are an ss2 thing not an ss1 one

[devout turret]

Waiting for the ruina update be killing me lol

[eternal wasp]

D-did Kevin really jumped to something almost 6 months old to say fuck you to it

[haughty brook]

did it to you too

[eternal wasp]

Oh

Probably

Not like i care, lol

Also, hopoo, beta branch for modding purposes pls

[prime knoll]

so this might've been done before but here it is anyway

configuring interactables, setting it to max possible and making all of it mountain shrines

[patent radish]

thats a few crowbars

[prime knoll]

yea a couple

[uneven gale]

you are insane but im sure people have done crazier

[prime knoll]

yea, im still going through them all

i'm at 430 rn and i've only covered spawn, the plateau in front of it and underneath the arches

i dont even know where the tele is

[prime knoll]

1100 mountain shrines

it was harvester's scythe

and stone titan

[uneven gale]

GOOD GOLLY

[nimble field]

https://tenor.com/view/hifu-djent-gif-24571475

[charred gyro]

is it possible to make enemies change teams

specifically is it possible to make it so that while mithrix has even one of your items, your umbras are hostile to him and friendly to you

[uneven gale]

like, go to your side and attack other monsters?

[stable ridge]

There's a team component that probably could be changed but idk if that would actively update

[timid blaze]

I know debug toolkit allows you to change teams on the fly, so probably

[bleak steeple]

[quaint sparrow]

The miner is so much fun to play holy shit

[prime knoll]

yea?

[bleak steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-i-need-it-spongebob-gif-11796572

[prime knoll]

it's configurable interactibles on ror2 and thunder

then you go into mod config, change spawn rate to 100 and everything except mountain shrine to 0

the mountain shrine to some number between 1 and 100

[vestal gulch]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Moffein/ShrineConfig/

[nova heath]

Anyone know a way to make the r2modman launch compatible with the steam launch? So I can' launch the game modded on steam without having to open R2modman, select the game, select my profile and then launch the game

[vestal gulch]

Under the "help" section in a profile

[nova heath]

ah thank you!

[wise ferry]

I’d recommend avoiding that. You lose the ability to use profiles, and one of the main purposes is so that you can be made aware of any mod updates

You’re much better off just dealing with literally two extra clicks

[next copper]

^

[vestal gulch]

It's uh
Probably too late now

[next copper]

Efficiency over idiocy.
You are only complicating things for yourself and modders by doing that.
Because if mods don't update, that means there could be bugs, and we don't want to hear people give us bug reports and only realize they haven't updated their mods.

[wise ferry]

Eh it’s fine, it’s mainly there as a last resort kind of thing, and also to be somewhat transparent with what it’s doing when you click start modded

Basically steam prioritises whatever you’ve manually put in the launch args so the manager can never override any of the same values

Best response to this question really is just something like: yes, but you shouldn’t because of profiles (…) and you won’t see any mods that need updating

and then if they still insist, well there you go

[vestal gulch]

Yeah, didn't know that since I've never bothered with launching from steam

[wise ferry]

Yeah I should probably update the help text to make it clear

[vestal gulch]

Thanks for letting me know
(Though this would be the first time I've seen anyone want to launch it via steam args)

[wise ferry]

Happens a lot

[vestal gulch]

Modcord I'm guessing

[wise ferry]

i should just become a bot at this point

[vestal gulch]

Make a bot that autoresponds lel

[wise ferry]

i should update r2botman

[vestal gulch]

hrm yes

New features: Added a bot version of Ebkr that tells you literally everything about the launcher/manager

[wise ferry]

massive 20k word message sent as file

[vestal gulch]

lmfao

Nah, it's gotta be like
A terms and service

And you do the evil thing
And set a timer
So they have to read through the entire thing

[wise ferry]

One hour timer

Would be a good deterrent for actual issues

and still faster than most support

[vestal gulch]

Honestly yeah

And if they decide to idle the timer
Well, their fault

[narrow dune]

using the nobossnowait mod, and it isnt letting me activate the teleporter, any way to fix this or is my run over lmao

[random plaza]

I havent played in ages, what mods would you guys recommend

[vestal gulch]

I'd ease yourself back in instead of jumping right back into large content mods

HIFU has a list of QoL and tweak mods pinned here

And for the love of god use R2Modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager

If you're returning, there's also a bunch of tips pinned in #ror2-game-questions to get back into the groove

[random plaza]

I can't stand r2modman tbh

[vestal gulch]

Besides TMM, it's the best mod manager currently for RoR2, and easy to use

Your other options are RoR2 Mod Manager (very outdated and lacks several features in R2Modman/TMM) and that CLI launcher thing for Linux

Or manual modding I guess, but that has its own host of issues and makes troubleshooting complicated

[random plaza]

I'm gonna use r2modman I just don't like it

[nocturne arch]

literally what is wrong with r2modman lmao

[vestal gulch]

I mean, if you have issues
Ebkr is here

[wise ferry]

what don’t you like about it?

[random plaza]

hard to explain but it's fine, don't worry

[wise ferry]

Oh no if there’s any problems then please let me know

Things can’t improve if people don’t give feedback

[random plaza]

not really any specific issues with it, I just don't like how some things are laid out

[wise ferry]

Ah

It’s laid out in a way that makes it quite easy to look at so it’s a little less daunting

Does make things marginally slower, but I think it’s a good trade off at least compared to things like ModOrganizer

[random plaza]

easiest I can think of is drag and drop local mods, instead of having to go all the way to settings

[wise ferry]

Oh yeah that’s planned

It was a thing a while back, but I had to remove it because of the import modal

[random plaza]

also profiles being easily accessible on the sidebar instead of being all the way in the settings again, which is not the most intuitive

[wise ferry]

I think I can counter that by asking how often you switch profiles in a session

imo it’s not something people do super frequently and I’d imagine would tend to restart the manager by the time they want to change profile

On that note though, I’m not opposed to making it more accessible, just need to find space for it so the nav isn’t cluttered

[random plaza]

I mean like, profiles for separate games, it's a bit too many clicks just to switch a game

you have to go to settings, change game, wait for it to load, select game, wait for it to load again and select profile

[wise ferry]

Really it’s just one less click if it’s moved out of settings

I’m not even sure if the manager needs to restart anymore when changing game. It was like that originally because the manager only supported RoR2 and it was like a hack job implementing DSP

So maybe I can take out some of the wait time

But yeah these are all fair points, thanks, feel free to either @ me or DM me if you have anything else

Alternatively there’s the r2mm discord or the GitHub repo has a feature request issue type

[random plaza]

yeah no problem

[junior smelt]

what's the best item share mod?

[vestal gulch]

ShareSuite

[junior smelt]

uh ok, what's the 2ND best item share mod?

[jade prairie]

yeet

[vestal gulch]

Kookeh's Drop Item I guess

[clever pelican]

i got a few mods. is there a way to still play multiplayer. the lobby is empty

[mossy lagoon]

need unmoddedversion

[next copper]

What's wrong with ShareSuite

[junior smelt]

nah nothing

i thought it was bugging my game but it was another mod

f for teammate revival or something

[frail stream]

how do i use it?

[random plaza]

Might be a bit cheaty but is there a mod that unlocks all abilities? I was never really a fan of trying to go for them

[vestal gulch]

https://thunderstore.io/package/TheMysticSword/CheatUnlocks/

Don't think you'll care, but there are "meta" abilities too (And meta serves purely as a guideline anyways)

[random plaza]

Thanks, I have to think about it because it unlocking steam achievements is

[vestal gulch]

Well, there is this
https://thunderstore.io/package/mistername/UnlockAll/
However, a few things about UnlockAll

It's not a true unlock
It only temporarily unlocks everything in the game while enabled, and relocking everything you didn't unlock legit when disabled, so it won't affect Steam, but

When disabled, UnlockAll resets your Eclipse levels and logbooks (monster and environment)

There's also a save editor if you don't feel like using mods, but that also will affect Steam achievs
https://riskofrain2-save-editor.web.app/

[random plaza]

Pain, I might just do it legit then

[vestal gulch]

You're always free to ask for advice in #ror2-game-questions

[sweet river]

whats a good pack to mess with item spawns and map spawns (mountains and such)

[vestal gulch]

Don't even need a modpack
Just 2 mods

DebugToolkit and ShrineConfig

This can also be used
https://thunderstore.io/package/PseudoCoffee/CustomSpawnChanceForCleansingPoolsChestsAndShrines/

[naive moss]

What are yall favorite mods?

[sweet river]

ty

[vestal gulch]

Artifact of the King, MercTweaks, LeechingSeedBuff, to name a few
Honestly, the whole list of tweak and QoLs pinned here would summarize my favorites

[random plaza]

Honestly I just don't enjoy doing the unlocks for them

[bleak steeple]

yo pretty out there question, but am trying to rip le escape pod and i can’t find the texture for it anywhere

any ideas or maybe a name?

[frail stream]

what's the easiest way to have items in your inventory before you start? i've tried many ways, but i can't figure out how any of them work

[bleak steeple]

i don’t wanna sound goofy, but in my experience modding other games we’d use root source scripts as reference. Maybe try Captain’s spawn as he starts with an item? Not sure if thisll be any help chief

[junior smelt]

anyone knows any good skins for acrid?

only thing i've found so far is...boobs

[vestal gulch]

https://thunderstore.io/package/TailLover/LongTailAcrid/

https://thunderstore.io/package/eyeknow/High_Fashion_with_Acrid/

https://thunderstore.io/package/Arty_Boyos/RoyalLizard/

https://thunderstore.io/package/Limeyhoney/GildedSurvivors/

https://thunderstore.io/package/marklow/PrestigiousSkinpack/

[vestal gulch]

ForgottenRelics

Coil Golem

Basically a miniboss
Used to have even more HP and a lower director credit cost

[prisma oracle]

not sure where the survivor is from

[vestal gulch]

Oh
Survivor looks like an Artificer skin

[jade prairie]

hey I downloaded r2modman and am running the game via the "start modded " button

for some reason my mods aren't appearing in the game

[vestal gulch]

Go to the Help section in the profile

[jade prairie]

okay all my directories are set up properly

could I share my screen with you ?

[polar adder]

monsooon, mods , JXqksSSOGs, 109775240998596956

[vestal gulch]

#lfg-pc-ror2

[vestal gulch]

I'm not usually in a position to VC, so sorry

[primal sequoia]

yknow maybe i should get into modding just so i can change the sfx of railgunner's supercharged firing and "echo" to use these two sfx from robocraft

i think they would fit very well

[hot echo]

@timid blaze apparently the single target eviscerate sometimes doesn't register damage in multiplayer, figured I'd go ahead and ping so I don't forget tomorrow

[timid blaze]

Oh, uh, well i don't actually know much about networking, so, not sure how to fix that tbh

[brisk stag]

if(!sync)
  sync();

[vapid arrow]

if custom characters are possible, is there a character with guns similar to commando (fast firing) but that doesnt feel as weak as commando?

[nimble field]

mul-t?

fr tho, maybe executioner from starstorm 2, MELT, enforcer, daredevil, henry

[vapid arrow]

any other good char mads?

[nimble field]

Dancer, Cadet from Tsunami, MELT, TF2SoldierMod, RidleyBeta, PaladinMod, Starstorm2 survivors, DaredevilMod, ChefMod, HAND OVERCLOCKED BETA, SniperClassic, Risk Of Ruina survivors, BanditReloaded imo

[vapid arrow]

what if some of the, are outta date

[random plaza]

Chefmod and a ruina mod? For a second I thought I was in the slay the spire discord

[haughty leaf]

Right now I'm pretty sure all those mods Hifu mentioned are updated for current ror2

[magic sonnet]

TheHouse

[sterile flower]

what about Typhoon Mod

[hybrid lodge]

No but there is nemesis commando

Aka anime commando

[random plaza]

is banditreloaded cooler than normal bandit

[nimble field]

preference

[bleak steeple]

emissives!!!

[gentle garden]

Anyone want to help me unlock nemforcer? lol

[trail spire]

Is there a mod that removes the item description pop-ups?

[vestal gulch]

Don't believe there's one removing them, but there is one that shortens their time on screen

[stable ridge]

this is in betterui Misc might work?

[vestal gulch]

Ah, coolio

[trail spire]

Oh sweet, thanks

[vestal gulch]

If that doesn't work out (though it should, I trust Faby on that), then here
https://thunderstore.io/package/DestroyedClone/FasterPickupText/

[gentle garden]

holy cow, nem enforcer is an absolute blast

[hot echo]

@timid blaze I think I found the issue, eviscerate also targets allies, despite not hurting them without chaos

normally it's not as noticeable, but when it's single target, if it targets an ally, it completely burns the ability

[timid blaze]

oh, that's a vanilla bug actually

[hot echo]

yee

[timid blaze]

i can fix that probably

[hot echo]

hell yeah!

[timid blaze]

gonna finish my own project first though, replacing engi's default mines with railer's concussion device

[hot echo]

yoooo

engi mine jumping sounds fuckin sick

pretty fitting movement skill as well

[timid blaze]

railer's looking pretty fun tbh

[random plaza]

where do you even change settings for fasterpickuptext?

[hot echo]

boing

hol up, I've got an idea for the mod icon

[random plaza]

I just realized that all of my ability challenges reset for some reason since last time I played ages ago

weird

[hot echo]

@timid blaze this guy walks up and steals your bungus, wyd?

[timid blaze]

it is done
https://thunderstore.io/package/Withor/EngiConcussionMine/

aight, now to figuring out what the devs smoked while coding evis

[hot echo]

XD

[vestal gulch]

perfect

[timid blaze]

ah, it just checks for any healthcomponent, that isn't your own

[hot echo]

now that's what we call gaming

[timid blaze]

annoying though, since it's in the middle of a ton of code

oh well, lets see if i can rewrite it without breaking anything

[junior smelt]

savage acrid mod is so fun dude

how have i never heard of this mod before

[vestal gulch]

Yeah, but insanely busted

It makes Acrid more busted than Heretic

[junior smelt]

yeah they could make some balancing changes

[vestal gulch]

There's a reason why that mod stemmed the whole "Savage" mod line meme

[junior smelt]

but there's some solid things acrid could have here

they could remove the regenerative thing

[vestal gulch]

A small issue with that: SavageAcrid was meant to be a total overhaul to Acrid and Moffein tried to make it balanced I guess, but uh
That obviously didn't happen

[junior smelt]

the 10% dmg for stack

[vestal gulch]

Moffein's moved on to RiskyMod
Where he somehow made Acrid in that mod even more busted than SavageAcrid

[junior smelt]

bruh

so sad that i won't be able to play acrid fr with this mod 😔

[vestal gulch]

Basically everything in SavageAcrid was unneeded
All that's needed for Acrid is a bite lunge (standalone mod by Withor) and a nice little hitbox buff (also a standalone mod)

[junior smelt]

if i could mod i'd try to balance it

i like the ravenous bite adition tho

[vestal gulch]

The reduces all cooldowns by 2 seconds on kill?
That's uh
Really busted

[junior smelt]

😭

[vestal gulch]

Remember that it also has slayer and how often Acrid uses it

[timid blaze]

seems to work

[junior smelt]

abandon all humanity
savage acrid

[vestal gulch]

I won't stop you from using the mod, it's all preference, but like
There's a really good reason why SavageAcrid led to the whole line of Savage mods

[junior smelt]

these 2 mods right

[vestal gulch]

Yes

[junior smelt]

ok

[timid blaze]

ya could try to learn it, it's not too hard

[junior smelt]

abandon all hope

[vestal gulch]

Depending on the scope of the mod, you could get by with little to no C# knowledge

And since all you're doing is editing SA

It's likely you're just changing around numbers or deleting lines of code

[junior smelt]

goodbye savage acrid

it was good while it lasted

🇫

[vestal gulch]

Again, I'm not stopping you at all from using it - fun is subjective

[junior smelt]

i feel like i'm a little bitch when i'm using this kind of mod

[stable ridge]

So Acrid hitbox buff good?

[timid blaze]

no it's not pulls gun

[junior smelt]

so even if i really want to use it, my subconscious will keep slapping my brain till i stop using it

[vestal gulch]

Yeah, that one is fine
It only slightly increases the hitboxes so Acrid can hit flying enemies a little more reliably (and stand on top of Vagrant)

[vestal gulch]

Aight, that's you then

[junior smelt]

what do ya'll think about this

what the fuck

why are there so many broken acrid mods

[vestal gulch]

Nope
Armor shredding is huge
And especially since it works with DoTs

[iron aurora]

i got a question. im experiencing a lot of crashes and its the same message can someone look at it?

[junior smelt]

yeah thats what i thought

[vestal gulch]

Put the log here

[junior smelt]

wha

[vestal gulch]

Whoops wrong reply

[junior smelt]

lmao

[iron aurora]

[Error : Unity Log] Object WarCryEffect(Clone) (UnityEngine.GameObject) should not be instantiated by means other than EffectManager.SpawnEffect. This WILL result in an NRE!!! Use EffectManager.SpawnEffect or don't use EffectComponent!!!!!

[Warning: Unity Log] Animator.GotoState: State could not be found
[Warning: Unity Log] Invalid Layer Index '-1'

[stable ridge]

cool when's that happening

neither of those could realistically crash the game

[iron aurora]

it ofc says the 2 part 5 time or so in a row

[nimble field]

those are vanilla errors
they dont do anything

[iron aurora]

that must be why it show up so much then

[hot echo]

noice! tested it with the rest of the tweaks and it works like a charm

MercenaryTweaks v1.1.3 has been uploaded

tho thunderstore might take a bit to show it

eyyy, the thunderstore page updated

[indigo pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668583395718332431/936864709821472788/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668583395718332431/936864798874943498/unknown.png

a story in 2 pictures

[stable ridge]

no fixedspawndiss smh

[indigo pine]

whozzat

what is that

[stable ridge]

mod that fixes dissonance not spawning grandparents and stuff and other changes

It makes all enemies able to be perfected on commencement with disso it looks cool

[indigo pine]

yeah but then I wouldn't be able to stare directly into the sun like here

[stable ridge]

perfected grandparents look even brighter tho

[indigo pine]

👀

[low veldt]

gotta say i wished the grafius mod worked with more modded characters, or modded abilities, but also, with the gradius mod option see thing, it’s gonna be busted on railgunner, imagine two overload shots hitting the same enemies weak point

[vestal gulch]

3

Option Seed adds 2 mimics

[hot echo]

v1.1.4 of MercenaryTweaks is going up on thunderstore
the fix to prevent evis from targetting alies was only applying when SingleTargetEvis was enabled in the configs, which was not intended

[nimble field]

🤨

zased

[junior smelt]

uhhhh, when i use m2 with the lunge mod for bite, should i start sprinting?

[nimble field]

isnt it agile?

[junior smelt]

i start sprinting if i bite while walking

[junior smelt]

but i start sprinting out of nowhere when i bite

[nimble field]

@timid blaze fix

[junior smelt]

i think that isn't normal

😭

[nimble field]

yeah she confused the two

its really jank cause im so used to sprinting after everything

[junior smelt]

thank you mod dev very cool

[nimble field]

ehh im no mod dev i have like 5 good mods

[junior smelt]

i meant withor lmao

dumb arse

[nimble field]

and a huge project that lets you customize any item, survivor, director, enemy etc

[timid blaze]

I have 0 good mods tho

[junior smelt]

i concur

[random plaza]

is there any mod that makes commando more interesting

[timid blaze]

Also, yeah i guess i can fix that tomorrow, just gotta add an if()

[nimble field]

mando gaming?

[nimble field]

didnt you confuse the skilldef thing tho?

[junior smelt]

i have made a difference in history

[vestal gulch]

MandoGaming or MandoGaming Lite

[timid blaze]

Too lazy to change bites skilldef, i just copied leaps code which always sets you to sprinting

[nimble field]

prolly confused the force sprint?

[vestal gulch]

And use Mando's alt skills too, they're both better and make him a little more intruiging

[random plaza]

I can only find mandogaming lite

[timid blaze]

Didn't know that was an option, i did it manually in the code

[nimble field]

https://thunderstore.io/package/FMRadio11/Mando_Gaming/

[random plaza]

weird

[vestal gulch]

Just search by FMRadio instead

[random plaza]

probably gonna choose lite

thanks

[junior smelt]

WAIT i lunge in the direction my crosshair is

oh this is gonna be fun

basically an extra jump

[random plaza]

is there any mod that has additional ways to finish a run? like, more than just obliterating yourself, a moment whole or mithrix

[vestal gulch]

Mmmm nope

I guess there's Artifact of the King for spicing up the Mithrix fight

[random plaza]

what about any new zones?

[vestal gulch]

ForgottenRelics

Technically Starstorm 2 Nightly adds one too, but it's poorly optimized
Same for A Moment, Hollow

If you're looking for spicing up vanilla stage appearance, there's StageAesthetic

[random plaza]

help

just nightly? because I downloaded the normal one

[vestal gulch]

Only Nightly has Slate Mines, yes, and it's disabled by default - you'll need to enable it in the config

If you plan on using Nightly, uninstall the normal version, and downgrade MoonstormSharedUtils to either 0.6.0 or 0.7.0

[random plaza]

well I guess no mystics then

[vestal gulch]

MysticItems and AspectAbilities should work fine

[random plaza]

but it doesn't cuz error

game doesn't even load, I didn't know the game had a loading screen

[cosmic moon]

i was using the admiral mod and i have no clue how to get any of the moves

other than the one that says land the shotgun 800 times

[agile chasm]

is there a mod that lets me filter the items i would see in a run? for example, the ability to disable all white items from a run

[vestal gulch]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Phedg1Studios/ItemDropList/

[random plaza]

Is there a mod to make lootgoblining everything not possible

When playing multiplayer

[vestal gulch]

ShareSuite or ForceItemEqualShare

Take your pick

[random plaza]

Both players need it I assume

[vestal gulch]

No, they're server-side

So just have UnmoddedVersion installed too if you're the host

[random plaza]

Nice

Thanks

[devout turret]

Nightly gave my modman a stroke too many times for me to want to aim for the new stage

[junior smelt]

i think i've found a cool... "interaction"? with the acrid lunge mod