#ror2-modding
timid swallow
timid blaze
What if it isn't tho
timid swallow
circle will strangle you in sleep
vestal gulch
c i r c l e
i s
h a r m l e s s
timid blaze
That's what a circle would say
timid swallow
fadeshock is a yellow circle confirmed
vestal gulch
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past basin
Also is there a Wiki for starstorm 2? I know there is one for Starstorm but the stuff here https://starstormmod.fandom.com/wiki/Starstorm_Mod_Wiki is for the ror1
I am too stupid to find a different one
vestal gulch
No wiki for SS2
past basin
Pain
vestal gulch
Best you can do is use the SS1 wiki as a reference
timid swallow
but why would you need wiki for ss2? barely any content compared to ror1
past basin
Cause it content that I don't know what does
timid swallow
you can check its config file if you wanna know which items it adds
or check the thunderstore page
itemstats mod shows detailed item descriptions
past basin
What stats are buffed
sonic osprey
Always though it was helpful. If you see it and then pick up a map on the same stage you know where to go.
timid swallow
What stats are buffed
speed, damage, armor, crit chance
past basin
Any questions I'd have I could just go straight to the wiki and have it be instantly answered
timid swallow
ok great
past basin
Hence why a wiki would be neat
timid swallow
so now you know which stats are boosted
how is it gonna help you
past basin
Its nice to know?
If the storm just gave enemies more HP and Armor then it wouldn't be a threat but damage and crit chance means that threat detection is more important
timid swallow
thunderstore page should have more detailed info tbh
past basin
Cause like 6 people play ror1
timid swallow
Cause like 6 people play ror1
wrong also bluepilled
vestal gulch
People only write the SS1 wiki because it's so expansive. If it only had a small fraction of its current content, I'm pretty sure no one would bother with a wiki
SS2 doesn't have enough content to warrant a wiki quite yet I'd say
plucky orbit
Anyone have any recommendations for multiplayer loot handling mods?
vestal gulch
ForcedItemEqualShare or ShareSuite
First one equalizes items among all players, making sure everyone has roughly the same amount of items (ForcedItemEqualShare)
The other just distributes an item to all players when an item is picked up, with some blacklists for Lunars and Equipment (ShareSuite)
plucky orbit
Sharesuite is what I'm using now. I'll check the first one out, thanks. I just want to have some agency over who gets what
young orbit
I wish there were more modded stages
there's more deprecated ones than there are non deprecated
vestal gulch
You've got A Moment Hollow (1 stage), ForgottenRealms (2 stages), Starstorm 2 Nightly (1 stage)
nimble field
the main problem for modders is the baker (collision, interactable locations, ai pathing), which is getting updated soon i hope
the only good stages rn are from forgottenrealms
vestal gulch
And I guess there's StageAesthetic but that's not really new stages
young orbit
didn't know starstorm 2 had a stage
vestal gulch
Starstorm 2 Nightly, to be more exact
It's in the beta stage so it's uh
Very unoptimized
nimble field
I also have a stage ready but I'm just waiting for update 
sonic osprey
That's exciting
gaunt smelt
gaunt smelt
Is there an animation for the startup between idle and a walk/run animation? To not have things snap into place and look awkward?
lyric shale
Apparently this one Legendary Chest that spawns in the tall tree in Sundered doesn't get replaced with a Red Multishop with the BigCategoryChests mod. 🤨
lyric shale
I think it's more interesting if it was guaranteed by default, give an actual reason to go to Sundered Grove for something unique for the red.
Anyways setting the chance to 100%.
Also five reds one stage.
hot echo
what language is ror2 written in? been wanting to learn code again, so I figured I'd start by learning to mod ror2
vestal gulch
C#
hot echo
ty!
vestal gulch
Using Unity
If you're getting into mod development, there's a link to the modding discord pinned here
hot echo
I'll definitely check that out, tho I probably won't be too active until I've got some basics down
vestal gulch
The coding language is C#
Developed using Unity
Audio done in WWise I think
Mod devs seem to use either Unity or Visual Studio for writing code
WWise is needed for audio
And Blender is preferred for models
hot echo
noice
vestal gulch
And ofc, Thunderstore is where you upload your mods for public download
Github is for source code or WIP stuff
hot echo
how active is the modding discord for answering questions? and is there a particular series or anything that you'd recommend for learning C#?
vestal gulch
Pretty active
You'll likely get a response reasonably fast
There's a getting started thing in the modding discord for learning the modding, but I don't have any particular resources for learning C#
hot echo
👍
neon quartz
Best mods that add items and such?
vestal gulch
Here's Dumbdazed's list
Bigger content mods (multiple features): Starstorm 2, Aetherium, Risk of Ruina, Cloudburst
Item mods: LaIncubadabra, MoreItems, MysticsItems, SivsItems, StandaloneAncientScepter, WickedRingButEpic
Enemy mods: Ancient_Wisp, Clay_Men, Direseeker, Regigigas, Nebby's Wrath
Skill Mods: ArtificerExtended, EggsSkills, EngineerWithAShotgun, GroovySkills, LunaticCultistArtificer
Tweak mods: AcridHitboxBuff, AegisBuff, Bandit_Tweaks, FW_Tweaks, Phase_Round_Lightning
Character mods: BanditReloaded, ChefMod, Enforcer, HAND_OVERCLOCKED_BETA, HenryMod, MelT, MinerUnearthed, PaladinMod, SniperClassic, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks
QoL: AcridHitboxBuff, AutoSkipIntroCutscene, BetterUI, EmptyChestsBeGone, FasterInterctables, ItemStatsMod, Mercenary_Expose_Fix, VoidFieldsQoL
Stage mod: ForgottenRelics
Artifact mods: ArtifactOfDissimilarity, GeneticArtifact, Artifact of the King, Risky Artifacts, GroovyArtifacts, Artifact of War, Artifact of Wayfaring, FW_Artifacts
miscellaneous: MoreShrines, debugtoolkit
If you're easing into modding though, I wouldn't recommend jumping right into large content mods
uneven gale
there it is
vestal gulch
There's definitely more though
That list is kind of a generalization
For Tweaks/QoL, here's HIFU's list
gaunt smelt
generally no
unless you get one that is designed to give you everything, you're pretty safe on that.
proud raft
unless you get one that is designed to give you everything, you're pretty safe o...
nice
thanks
gaunt smelt
no worries!
prime sapphire
do mods in ror2 affect achievements?
I used mods to get all of the achievements on Steam, granted I had to actually play the game to complete certain challenges, but it made things easier as I was playing
grave radish
do you guys know where to put manifest file?
timid swallow
just use r2modman
grave radish
just use r2modman
usually when i use that, the character selection is gone
timid swallow
bruvv
grave radish
wait let me just boot up and send screenshot
timid swallow
If you are using r2modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager:
You can copy your log by going to the Settings screen, selecting the Debugging tab and clicking Copy LogOutput.log to clipboard
And paste it in this channel.
If you have manual install:
You can find such log file in your Risk of Rain 2/BepInEx/ folder, the file is called LogOutput.log.
Drag the file in this channel so that other users can help you.
grave radish
If you are using r2modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager:
You can copy your log by ...
alr
grave radish
If you are using r2modman or Thunderstore Mod Manager:
You can copy your log by ...
copied it
timid swallow
paste the thing here
grave radish
paste the thing here
grave radish
do you have any deprecated mods in the pack?
Hmm let me check
timid swallow
ohhh ryanskinapi
grave radish
ohhh ryanskinapi
What happened?
timid swallow
you have that mod right?
grave radish
you have that mod right?
For skins yea
timid swallow
gotta uninstall that
those skins wont work
weird that moderators didnt deprecate every skin with deprecated dependency
timid swallow
try running the game again
also kinda weird it's going over old version and saying "nah, new versions exists so yeha"
grave radish
also kinda weird it's going over old version and saying "nah, new versions exist...
So i have to like install the new version?
timid swallow
i dunno, it's like you have old files somewhere, but you have everything updated anyways so liek
just thinking
grave radish
i dunno, it's like you have old files somewhere, but you have everything updated...
Damn welp
wise ferry
also kinda weird it's going over old version and saying "nah, new versions exist...
update the mods then
big update all at the top in the yellow banner
grave radish
big update all at the top in the yellow banner
im using the manual tho
wise ferry
yeah but wasn’t your issue the character list disappearing when using the manager
and the solution given was to remove skinapi because it’s broken
figured you were using it
grave radish
and the solution given was to remove skinapi because it’s broken
ahh
prime sapphire
What kind of mods are you guys using???? I use WeMod cuz it makes everything so much simpler that way I am not messing with files or coding
vestal gulch
WeMod is a cheat client
Separate 3rd-party program
Mayhem
We use R2Modman
It simplifies so many processes
Especially since the manual modding method is now obsolete
proud raft
Mayhem
We use R2Modman
It simplifies so many processes
Especially since the manu...
yeah
I use that too
wise ferry
most people use either r2modman or thunderstore mod manager
jade prairie
Hello guys, anybody here with experience on extended artificer?
I have problems unlocking some of his skills and its probably my fault. but i dont get it
jade prairie
I need to kill 15 blazing elites with burn damage.
What do i need to do exactly here? I take that Artifact with the only elite spawn and kill 15 red guys with my flame thrower skill. Any ideas what im doing wrong?
vestal gulch
The Ignite damage is what needs to kill them, not the direct damage from Flamethrower or Flame Bolt
jade prairie
Ohh ok. Any ideas on items that help me on this? Just use gasoline?
vestal gulch
Gasoline will help a lot with getting burn
I also advise watching the enemy's HP to see when to stop hitting them with Flamethrower/Flame Bolt and instead let Ignite kill them
jade prairie
ok so i just stop the flamethrower on low HP enemys. That makes sense. Thanks man
vestal gulch
Yeah, just redirect the flamethrower or sprint-cancel it
jade prairie
i will try
muted epoch
does anyone know a mod where i can move the hp bar to the middle of the screen
vestal gulch
Works with BetterUI
muted epoch
do you know which mods lets you change the player count?
(make it 4 player mode in solo runs)
vestal gulch
TooManyFriends
muted epoch
POgggg
muted epoch
thanks a bunch
copper herald
There's also a mod that makes it an artifact
With configurable multiplication
Think its Zet Artifacts?
That or FW Artifacts
vestal gulch
Neither, it's a standalone mod
Or, actually Zet has it, but it has a standalone mod
muted epoch
is there an easier way to change configs other than launching and closing the game
copper herald
?
I dont have a standalone Multitudes artifact mod
Yeah, Zet
vestal gulch
is there an easier way to change configs other than launching and closing the ga...
Some mods support InLobbyConfig, but most don't, so no
You'll have to live with closing and relaunching
copper herald
But if it is its own mod than that'd probably be preferable
Unless you want to be able to Scrap in command, Zet has an Artifact for it
Pretty handy when avoiding autoplay
muted epoch
is there a mod that fixes the BFG
refering to the fact that it cant be charged twice at the same time
if you had 2 fuel cells or something
timid swallow
like it has animation that can't be cancelled and it prevents the next activation for few seconds
muted epoch
yeah
vestal gulch
No mod that changes it cause it's a hardcoded animation I'm pretty sure
nimble field
its moddable for sure
vestal gulch
Wonder why no one has done it then
Probably cause it's so obscure or because it exists for what I assume is a balance reason
nimble field
isn't it just there to mimic the bfg 😎
vestal gulch
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jade prairie
um mods not loading and none of the solutions have worked? i need some help
lucid sun
anyone know what this is? its from either "aetherium" or "cloudburst" i have them both active rn i dont know which it's from
vestal gulch
MysticItems
Get to it within 10 minutes, like unlocking Preon
Unlocks the equipment "Ancient Mask"
lucid sun
MysticItems
forgot i had this enabled too, thanks a lot for this lol
viral hedge
anyone able to just join my game a few times so i can determine which mods are multiplayer supported?
vestal gulch
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and configs
prime sapphire
Mayhem
We use R2Modman
It simplifies so many processes
Especially since the manu...
Not sure what you mean by manual modding method being obsolete but R2Modman still sounds difficult to use. It sounds like more work needs to be done vs pressing a hotkey to turn something on and off. Not disrespecting it or spitting on it or anything like that. If that is what most people use then okay if it work it works. I only use WeMod cuz I was in a different server and asked people what I could use to mod games without having to do so much work and someone suggested WeMod for new users like me
inland belfry
hey, if you play as modded characters, will it screw up your profile stats if you switch back to unmodded?
vestal gulch
No
vestal gulch
Not sure what you mean by manual modding method being obsolete but R2Modman stil...
R2Modman is stupidly easy to use. Download, install, and now you can manage a bunch of different games and modded profiles, and easy access to downloading mods, configuring them, or enabling/disabling them.
WeMod is a cheat client, and as such only has a cheat functionality. It has none of the connection to Thunderstore (the mod repository), and has limited functionality overall.
As for manual modding, that refers to manually downloading BepInEx and shifting around game folders
prime sapphire
R2Modman is stupidly easy to use. Download, install, and now you can manage a bu...
I'll check it out whenever I can then. I apologize if I did upset you in anyway. It was never my intention to make things difficult
vestal gulch
Oh, I'm not offended, it's alright
jade prairie
Can you use multiplayer with mods?
I wanted to start trying some, but I also wanna play with friends
vestal gulch
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and configs
vestal gulch
Yeah
jade prairie
Sweet! We just bought 100% the game, and would like to just spice things up
vestal gulch
Nice
jade prairie
Thank you! 😄
jade prairie
okay!
vestal gulch
Or Thunderstore Mod Manager, either one
jade prairie
Is there a mod to get rid of text which in the late game shows up 1000 times that’ll spam fuck your screen and cause frame spikes
Like “immune” and shit
jade prairie
Rip.
Nah. Unfortunately there isn’t. Turning off Damage Numbers & Money/Exp effects will still show statuses
I was playing Huntress and I ended up getting like 5+ attack speed with flurry and when I was fighting bosses my screen would just fill up with the word “Immune” and lag my game like crazy
timid swallow
immune? that sounds like aurelionite thing only
viral hedge
ikr
past basin
Anyone know if Stirring Soul from Starstorm2 Stacks?
vestal gulch
Yes iirc
timid swallow
no
past basin
timid swallow
always 6%
past basin
I dont think so either nvm
vestal gulch
Could've sworn it used to stack
Oh well
past basin
I wonder if it works with scratch Tickets
timid swallow
used to be
don't remember if they changed anything about it
but I remember devs malding over the scratch ticket
past basin
Yeah it does
charred gyro
is it possible to edit some config or install another mod that lets me alter nemry's energy costs? I feel like whatever the cost for shunpo is it's too low
charred gyro
how difficult would you estimate it to be for me to make my own mod whose only purpose is to change the costs and damage of his skills?
vestal gulch
And CharacterCustomizer doesn't support the energy costs since it's a unique system
charred gyro
I'm really enjoying nemry tbh
learning a lot about his abilities like "gun special is for massive damage" or "gun utility can get you out of danger faster than shunpo to another enemy"
vestal gulch
Yeah, he's really fun
And being a Rob mod
I'm pretty sure like half of the kit is a reference to DMC
charred gyro
his boss music kills me every time (In The End by Linkin Park)
vestal gulch
Rob moment
timid swallow
that is literally a reference to old animation of Henry fighting shadow Henry
charred gyro
Does increasing the spawn rate of enemies make the game easier or harder?
On one hand it's easier to get swarmed, on the other hand I never have to worry about running out of money (non sacrifice) or items (sacrifice)
charred gyro
nemry is overall very fun but there are some major problems like swap weapons being affected by attack speed (and therefore being very difficult to handle at high attack speed numbers)
I feel like I'm not good enough at the game to be giving balance advice but I'd love to play with tuning the damage numbers of his abilities
vestal gulch
I'm afraid the complaints fall on deaf ears
Rob left the modding community some time ago to pursue his own projects, and afaik no one's picked up Henry
charred gyro
lol I see
vestal gulch
On the other hand
It's an excuse to try your hand at mod development lel
charred gyro
true
I'd love to commit to something like that, I don't know the first thing about modding but altering henry so that his weapon swap isn't affected by attack speed seems like a good start I would think?
vestal gulch
Can always ask in the modding discord
Its invite is pinned here
charred gyro
mm that's a good start
I think I'll join the modding discord in about five hours, I just need to set a time that I'll do it. I don't know what else exactly I would make a mod for though. I wonder if I can load a mod with r2modman without publishing it.
vestal gulch
You can
charred gyro
cool
vestal gulch
Import Local Mod feature in profile settings
charred gyro
nice
god the attack speed thing is so bad that I just want to die on commencemnet just so I can end the run and see if CharacterCustomizer can help with that at least
vestal gulch
It will not I'm afraid
charred gyro
ok
also I want to get rid of my zenith accelerator
turns out it's bad on nemry* not only because of the weapon swap issue but also because the ramp up is difficult for him
vestal gulch
Pray for a cleansing pool
charred gyro
just bad handling really and it's not really a thing that can be retuned, attack speed isn't for everyone
nemry is very fun though
charred gyro
Is there a mod that shows you all nearby interactables similar to radar scanner?
so, noob question, but in character customizer, when I set a value to 0 (such as BaseRechargeInterval for a skill), that means "use the vanilla value", right?
tired folio
Hi just curious is r2modman safe to download and use?
nimble field
of course
tired folio
Alright thanks!
What's the name of the mod that lets you share items with other players?
Played a game with someone using that and it was very fun
distant python
@tired folio its https://thunderstore.io/package/FunkFrog-and-Sipondo/ShareSuite/
nimble field
there's also ForceItemsEqualShare
tired folio
Ah cool thanks a lot
sly moss
The Ignite damage is what needs to kill them, not the direct damage from Flameth...
@jade prairiethat achievement actually tracks damage from attacks that apply burn and the burn damage itself
so basically use flamethrower or flame bolts and win
charred gyro
What does RuinaBackwardsClock do? I don't remember ever seeing it before.
charred gyro
Is Typhoon a type of "hard", for the purpose of StartingItemsGUI?
nimble field
i assume it gets the difficultydef value
1 for drizzle, 2 for rainstorm, 3 for monsoon and >= 3 for anything higher
charred gyro
ok so if I obliterate on typhoon then it should trigger "on hard obliteration"
nimble field
yes
charred gyro
so obliterationmultiplier+hardmultiplier
cool thanks
hmm
Does Nemry Sword M2 (charge to dash at an enemy to hit them) scale on length of charge or is the charge just a delayed activation giving you time to aim?
stable ridge
DifficultyDef actually has a "countsAsHardMode" bool
If you can unlock Mastery on the difficulty it should work
warm hill
Starstorm's wiki is not going to give you the info you need on SS2's content
They're different mods for different games
warm hill
Also, iirc their github is private still
warm hill
No, there's still a way to go about it, but since they use an editor based workflow you won't get the complete picture. You can use code spy tools like DnSpy
or Dotpeek, or ILSpy
You simply drop their assembly (dll) file into the program
charred gyro
so there's a discord specifically for starstorm 2
is there a discord specifically for risk of ruina too?
and aetherium?
this seems like a lot of discords to join
timid swallow
they know about it and descriptions was fixed indev
it spawns a tankier ghost with negative armor that deals less damage when you kill any enemy
this ghost disappears after some time
charred gyro
it spawns a tankier ghost with negative armor that deals less damage when you ki...
tankier ghost with negative armor
So good for anything that cares about the damage numbers of your outgoing damage but bad for anything that requires you to kill things quickly? Aside from the "good for hitting and killing things" implicit in enemies creating new enemies on death
timid swallow
it's just an artifact of soul but badass
charred gyro
it's just odd to me that they would give it more health but negative armor
timid swallow
it's just odd to me that they would give it more health but negative armor
i pointed it out too when i was giving feedback
charred gyro
well it could have a purpose
I know there's a mod alt utility for Heretic that heals based on damage dealt, which would benefit from this
timid swallow
300% HP
125% Movement Speed
125% Attack Speed
90% damage
-25 Armor
that's just a guy trying out some stuff
charred gyro
And there's a mod item, Malice, from uhh... damn, can't remember what mod, that causes damage dealt to one enemy to be redealt to nearby enemies
charred gyro
125% attack speed
90% damage
so the dev is just playing with balance numbers and this isn't really meant to "do" anything except experiment
timid swallow
sorta kinda yeah
it was a "spooky" ghost artifact in ror1 ss1 that spawned ghosts for 3 seconds, then they died
charred gyro
huh ok
timid swallow
nebby thought that 3 seconds is rather unimpactful
charred gyro
I notice that Armed Backpack seems to be drop disabled and it doesn't seem to be doing anything
also I can't find the starstorm 2 discord server to ask that question there
do you know anything about Armed Backpack?
timid swallow
it does, it just works in such ways that you arent supposed to see what it does
charred gyro
magic find?
timid swallow
when you shoot an enemy in front of yourself, armed backpack has a chance to shoot an enemy behind you
charred gyro
huh ok
timid swallow
i had a commando + crowdfunder run with these things and uhhhh sfx fucked my ears enoughh
vestal gulch
<@456226577798135808>that achievement actually tracks damage from attacks that a...
Odd then
I guess their procs were killing
Since they were noting that Flamethrower wasn't counting
ocean karma
i had a commando + crowdfunder run with these things and uhhhh sfx fucked my ear...
yeah i need to give it a unique sfx
i fixed it not having descs for next update
timid swallow
based
slate cloak
does anyone know with Skills Plus Plus if upgrading mul-t's primary also affects his other primary in power mode?
frosty shard
does anyone happen to know what the buff men mod does?
It's supposed to add images off buff men but there are no buff men to be seen.
nimble field
they are in the mod zip
dark briar
Question, I’m not the best with ROR2 search engines, so is there any mod that allows me to play with more than 4 players in a lobby?
vestal gulch
TooManyFriends
dark briar
Thanks
charred gyro
If you get Standalone Ancient Scepter and you also get Essence of Heresy... does it really not upgrade Ruin?
timid swallow
iirc, no
charred gyro
that's a shame
vestal gulch
It does not upgrade Ruin unless you're the Heretic
charred gyro
I wonder why
in the config it says "StridesInteractionMode" but scepter would only affect your Special, which is Essence, wouldn't it?
charred gyro
huh ok
timid swallow
m2 for han-d
charred gyro
only upgrades Nevermore on Heretic
uhh ok
this is weird
ah
amogus lovers ancient scepter has no config
I don't know what destroyed clone ancient scepter is but it's not amogus lovers is it
timid swallow
it's his alt account
charred gyro
oh hm
timid swallow
mod IS by destroyed clone
vestal gulch
DestroyedClone.AncientScepter is the config file for SAS
charred gyro
I wonder if amogus lovers anscient scepter uses destroyed clone ancient scepter config file if it exists?
I just deleted the config so we'll see what it creates
vestal gulch
Dumbdazed just stated
Amogus Lovers is just Destroyed's alt account
charred gyro
hmmmm ok
timid swallow
sussy baka goose goose
charred gyro
but in r2modman the dev name of the mod is amogus lovers
vestal gulch
Doesn't matter
timid swallow
SSUSSYSUSSSYAMOGISMLAUGUSSS
charred gyro
but the config file is named com.DestroyedClone.AncientScepter.cfg
timid swallow
AMO GUS
charred gyro
that's weird
so I deleted the file and it came back as com.DestroyedClone.AncientScepter.cfg
vestal gulch
Yes, because the mod uses Destroyed's name
charred gyro
ok
vestal gulch
It's set to autogenerate the config file with that name
charred gyro
I wonder if it rerolls on nemry
haha yeah it does rip
boy I tell ya I'm starting to regret loving nemry so much
vestal gulch
Nemry has no inherent support for Scepter
Kinda odd considering Rob did add Scepter support for Henry, but oh well
charred gyro
tragic
timid swallow
just had no time
vestal gulch
Sounds about right
charred gyro
maybe once I get modding tools set up I'll make a mod so that when nemry gets scepter his special is unchanged except it always leaves 10% energy after firing
as practice or something
vestal gulch
Scepter Henry is funny anyways
You have one Bazooka? Well, Scepter now gives him two Bazookas!
Double the fun
charred gyro
how does henry support scepter when executioner doesn't
it's so hard to keep track of what character is from what mod tbh
starstorm 2 characters don't, henry does, nemry doesn't, risk of ruina characters do
vestal gulch
In SS2
Nemmando has support, Exec doesn't
tardy drift
Henry?
charred gyro
I don't even like henry
tardy drift
Whos henry
charred gyro
and scepter just rerolled into desk plant on my nemmando
vestal gulch
Whos henry
Character mod
charred gyro
I don't understand what makes henry attractive as a character
I skipped him because I couldn't see myself enjoying any of his skills
vestal gulch
He's not supposed to be eye catching
tardy drift
I havent played modded in awhile
vestal gulch
He's supposed to be an example character
vestal gulch
Henry is a modding template for custom character creation
charred gyro
so then what's the deal with nemry? he's just along for the ride?
"I created nemry so you have something to aspire to. Now I must leave."
very Fermat's Last Theorem
vestal gulch
Nemry is just there because Rob wanted to
charred gyro
I love how nemry is utterly undocumented in the mod page
vestal gulch
Kinda the point of the nemesis characters
charred gyro
oh nemesis is an entire theme of undocumented characters?
vestal gulch
It revolves around the variant system in the first starstorm
They were hidden variations of the cast
charred gyro
the one thing I dislike about nemry is not only does he not benefit from cooldown reduction but at least with character customization you can't even give his abilities cooldowns
vestal gulch
Because he's not made to use cooldowns at all
charred gyro
I know
timid swallow
I mean
they are documented normally and it even says "unlock xxx's vestige"
rob just really liked how "surprise" nemforcer turned out
charred gyro
the cooldown thing just makes backup mags, bandolier, brainstalks, alien head, afterburner, purity, and amethyst redundant
and I can't help but pick up every item I see which means I end up with backup mags and bandolier on a regular basis that do nothing but taunt me
timid swallow
just scrap em
charred gyro
but more importantly, not being able to give abilities cooldowns means I can't give weapon swap a 0.5 second cooldown, which would prevent me from double tapping it at high attack speeds
vestal gulch
I've told you already before
The complaints aren't going to do anything since Rob's gone and no one's picked up Henry
vestal gulch
So your best bet is scrap 'em or pick up working on Henry yourself
charred gyro
I'm not trying to get anyone to change it, though I am certain I'm going to make a mod to change nemry behavior as one of the first things I do when I start modding this game
I did join the mod discord when I claimed I would so it's just a matter of time before I find out basic things like what language mods are written in and what editor people use and such
not ready for that yet since it's almost time for bed
vestal gulch
Ah
Mods are written in C#, same as the game
Most seem to use Unity or Visual Studio for writing code
charred gyro
the biggest hurdle for me is getting an IDE set up, second biggest is making my first change to the game, possibly even a "hello world" in BepinEx
vestal gulch
WWise is required if you want to use audio
charred gyro
Most seem to use Unity or Visual Studio for writing code
Visual Studio, right, not VS Code?
reef yoke
you write mods in C#? i write them on paper
charred gyro
I use IntelliJ IDEA or Visual Studio Code
vestal gulch
Both work I think
As long as you can get it to compile and work, it won't really matter what you use
charred gyro
I think tomorrow around the time I wake up I'm going to look for resources for how to make a "hello world" mod that prints "hello world" to BepinEx
and then I'll work from there to see how to make a mod that changes behavior introduced in a mod, since I'm not interested in altering any of the base game characters
but I'm not ready for any of that yet since it's late for me
right now all I want to think about is what character other than nemry I'm going to use to earn credits for starting items
and what I'm going to do with my 183 persistent credits to help that character do whatever they're going to do
nimble field
you write mods in C#? i write them on paper
but in reality, if you're already at the point of applying a stupid amount of hooks, you probably don't need IL for that. Use something else.
slate cloak
does anyone know with Skills Plus Plus if upgrading mul-t's primary also affects his other primary in power mode?
near zinc
hey what is like the most busted modded character u can use
near zinc
ty
near zinc
https://thunderstore.io/package/Jot/LordZot/
will i want to change ablilites or anyhtiung
vestal gulch
I don't even think he has alt abilities
near zinc
k
vestal gulch
All you need the know about the character is
You're basically playing a boss
near zinc
awesome
nimble field
another one is ninja but high skill floor, and also ceiling
charred gyro
another one is ninja but high skill floor, and also ceiling
remind me about Ninja tomorrow morning
ninja is literally shen
oh boy
vestal gulch
Mercenary is great
Ninja is Mercenary on steroids
Should summarize the gameplay of the character
Very fun to use
nimble field
he used to be like twice as strong
I told the guy how to calculate the dps and stuff lol
vestal gulch
Yeah, definitely toned it down
uneven gale
hey so is it possible to disable the natural nemmando spawns? like in the config menu or something?
vestal gulch
Events
charred gyro
he has no death animation
vestal gulch
Disabling Events will also incidentally disable Storms though
charred gyro
*Very* fun to use
I can't wait to become good at ninja then
uneven gale
ok thanks
charred gyro
ninja seems overpowered from what little I've played of him
ok I'll play ninja tomorrow when my eyes are capable of focusing on my monitor
hate this double vision
so any kill resets my utility?
I foresee a lot of memorizing cooldowns plus counting shots
nimble field
wasn't it deflect that gave you Brainstalks effect for a bit and utility resetting its own cooldown on kill with it?
charred gyro
utility resets its own cooldown on its own kill but iirc it has some global cooldown reset from other abilities
I'm going to have to run the game just to explain it
I'm going to crawl into bed after I'm done explaining this lol
ah I was mistaken of course
its global cooldown reset comes from successful deflect on secondary
iirc I triggered its on deflect by deflecting a wisp shot, which is not a projectile
this is going to be fun, I can tell
the only problem is I don't know how to leave cloak without waiting for it to run out, which is inconvenient
mainly because I want to use my primary, since deflecting things while cloaked doesn't really make sense
ah, damage dealt on elemental stab resets primary, so I guess I have to cloak, shoot five shurikens, elemental stab, five more shurikens, by which point I should be out of cloak
execute is Slayer
oh boy
and it seems if I get the timing right I can deflect with m2 as many times in a row as I'm capable of
the one thing that bothers me about ninja right now is if I happen to be in melee range of a wisp, my primary doesn't do damage quickly enough to kill it easily, which I think means I would have to use my secondary or even my utility to execute the wisp
I'll figure it out tomorrow. good night
hollow kite
I've got a question
Is there a way to install mods but still play with vanilla players
or a way to toggle them on and off
vestal gulch
Well, use R2Modman for mod management
As for multiplayer
If the mod is tagged as server-side or skin, just install the UnmoddedVersion mod
If it's tagged as client-side, then you don't need to do anything
If it has none of the above tags, all clients will need the same mods and configs
hollow kite
ty
copper herald
hey what is like the most busted modded character u can use
copper herald
hate this double vision
Be me
See better in double vison
vestal gulch
Zot is better if you just want busted
Since Zot was designed to be completely busted
rich ocean
Why will the music of King Kombat Arena not stop playing?
timid swallow
go to the config file and search for option to turn it off
if that doesnt work, reinstall ror2
azure maple
timid swallow
classic house
round raptor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676986207942737931/932198007204626442/gam...
wasn't me
vivid vault
bruh you were the one playing house
glacial pumice
did they really just give a rare chance on jack to just bring you to whatever that is
ive only been sent to the ambry bulwark that just didnt give me a portal to get out and ended my run but that was actually on a wild card
stable ridge
you'd need to beat the trial
vivid vault
so did we break it somehow?
glacial pumice
you'd need to beat the trial
i beat it and it just didnt give the portal for me to leave
stable ridge
I assume you picked up the Artifact?
glacial pumice
the what
stable ridge
Bulwarks ambry is the artifact world to get out you need to kill the orb then pick up the artifact
vivid vault
but does anyone have any clue how tf we ended up there
glacial pumice
i know what bulwarks ambry is smh
ive done it like, five times infact! im very ambry bulwark expert!
all of those times were over a year ago.
vivid vault
WHAT CAUSED THS THOUGH 
timid swallow
but does anyone have any clue how tf we ended up there
house's jack card or something
vivid vault
we figured it out
glacial pumice
what was it
timid swallow
it's AI test stage
timid swallow
house is funny and can do that
vivid vault
lol I can tell
inland belfry
So I beat Mithrix with Regigigas and it didn't unlock the Mastery skin. Is there a way I can force it to unlock?
inland belfry
Huh. Unlocking the Regigigas: Mastery challenge doesn't unlock the skin
timid swallow
hm
nimble field
after looking at the garbage known as hooks, no wonder the devs got confused on its dps holy shit
thick star
hello
i just got here
i want to install a UI mod for ror2 but i am confused as to which one
is it this one? https://thunderstore.io/package/XoXFaby/BetterUI/
jade prairie
who wants to join me in a modded server that fits 8 the code is 109775240986834792
mossy lagoon
is it this one? https://thunderstore.io/package/XoXFaby/BetterUI/
yes
sturdy crag
He gets desynced, the rng should sync up on stage change, but it can get desynced then too.
subtle gulch
mod idea: elite aspect stacking
i know aspects are equpiment but it would be funny if you could have all of them at once
heavy girder
hi anyone know why i get an error when loading the game up with mod manager ?
heavy girder
no idea i just pressed download
did i do somthing wrong ?
i get this every time
jade prairie
i get this every time
Go into the task manager and see if Risk of Rain is running but not showing up on the desktop. If it is then end it
near zinc
hey doies anyone know if you can earn achivements while using mods
jade prairie
hey doies anyone know if you can earn achivements while using mods
I'm pretty sure you can
near zinc
sweet
heavy girder
Go into the task manager and see if Risk of Rain is running but not showing up o...
i tried restarting my pc and it seemed to work
i think it was open but not showing up thank you
jade prairie
Ye, sometimes stuff on steam tends to do that and it's annoying. Next time try using task manager tho so you don't have to restart your PC lol
heavy girder
Ye, sometimes stuff on steam tends to do that and it's annoying. Next time try u...
yeah will do thank you ha
near zinc
i just found the mod that allows u to unlock all steam achievements uploaded 2 hours agohttps://thunderstore.io/package/TheMysticSword/CheatUnlocks/1.0.1/
vestal gulch
I'd prefer Skell's aspects since it's a bit more balance-oriented, but Zets does support more recent aspects
Or better yet, use AspectAbilities
timid swallow
oh i see
near zinc
what dioes this mean
vestal gulch
Family event. Built into the base game
near zinc
is it rare?
vestal gulch
They happen on occassion. Means one enemy type will spawn for the stage
Yeah, they're a bit rare
charred gyro
hmm
trying to set config for corpsebloom reborn to mimic vanilla corpsebloom
my main goal is just getting a visual indicator of how much healing is stored
BaseMaxUsageRate has a default of 0.1, which seems to be 10% of your maximum health, and StackMaxUsageRate has a default of 0.05, which I think means the heal increases by 5% of your maximum health per stack
i.e. linear
which is stupid because that makes it a lunar item with no downside
I can't even give it a stacking downside because it's linear, if you stack it three times at the default of 0.05 then you get 0.0, no healing at all
copper herald
Curious how easy would it be to make a simple recolor skin?
I originally used a mod that exported a pallete which you could Modify
But that used RyanSkinAPI, and that's been deprecated iirc
hollow kite
is there an effective way to only use one section of a mod?
like only using 1 item from a mod with several
timid swallow
is there an effective way to only use one section of a mod?
configs
there is a button in r2modman to access them
search for the mod config and look if you can disable stuff
notes: current stable starstorm 2 version shits itself and dies horribly if you try to disable ALL the items
mystic items has no config at all afaik
timid swallow
mfw woolie advertises borked mod
actuallllly
there is rulebook mod
and some item blacklist mod
never used them but that kinda stuff can disable items soo
hollow kite
do starstorm nightly or its requirements lower chest spawn rate?
timid swallow
yes.
hollow kite
oh then I wasn't hallucinating
timid swallow
fucking
pods I haaaaate hemm aaaaaa nebby whyyyyy did you do thisss
hollow kite
does disabling starstorm fix it
timid swallow
yeah
timid swallow
wait addon
just don't try running stable starstorm and nightly at the same time
feel free to install it back next update too, they gonna move pods into barrel category
hollow kite
oh thank god
vital acorn
Anyone know a way (if possible) to make metamorphosis pick a random loadout?
copper herald
fucking
pods I haaaaate hemm aaaaaa nebby whyyyyy did you do thisss
So 300 Lems can spill out of it
timid swallow
So 300 Lems can spill out of it <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
I wish!
but they don't!
a single wisp at best
absolute scam of an interactable
vital acorn
Is that ror1?
timid swallow
with a lil bit of mods
near zinc
is there a mod that can give me lunar coins
vital acorn
Edit the save files
Takes like 30 secs
Will probably be faster than looking for a mod
vestal gulch
Well
RoRCheats has a button
But if you wanted to fine tune the lunar count (or go into negatives), save file editing would be faster
turbid rivet
isnt there like an updated version of rorcheats or somethin
vital acorn
Yeah
turbid rivet
surprised not alot of people use it
from what i can remember the UI is much much nicer
vestal gulch
It's called Aerolt
Just RoRCheats ends up being more popular since it's more polished overall currently
clear glen
hey my friend is trying to get modding to work, for some reason his r2modman just says it's opening the game but doesn't pull anything up at all, no game, no console, nothin
uneven gale
is steam on when doing so?
rugged ermine
Need to make a mod that patches exploits into the game
Recycler usable on ancient keys etc
charred gyro
damn it
where can I go to submit feedback on starstorm 2 nightly
the silhouette of armed backpack is too similar to tougher times and I keep mispicking
timid swallow
bruh
charred gyro
what's "bruh", why are you saying bruh
timid swallow
it's funny
charred gyro
oh yeah it is pretty funny
timid swallow
by this logic hopoo should change tritip dagger because silhouette is similar to crowbar's
charred gyro
no, because tritip dagger isn't a WIP
presumably the starstorm team is looking for feedback for their new item in development, I wanted to contribute to the project
if it were a gripe with nemry I wouldn't be asking about feedback
timid swallow
yeah there is server and a feedback channel
uneven gale
there should be a starstorm 2 discord, right?
charred gyro
I tried to find it but I couldn't,
the only one I found was the ror2 modding discord which doesn't seem like the one you're talking about
uneven gale
the invite should be on the mod page
https://thunderstore.io/package/TeamMoonstorm/Starstorm2/
charred gyro
nightly fork gives 25% increased base damage (linearly, I believe) on a white item and workshop ammunition gives 20% (total, also linearly I think) only to ranged attacks on a green item... is fork imbalanced or is a workshop ammunition imbalanced? or are they both balanced because total is better than base?
if I remember correctly, focus crystal is 40% so it's weird that workshop ammunition is at or below fork level
stable ridge
focus crystal is 20%
charred gyro
why the hell is fork 25% then? hang on, I seriously need to check on this
yeah focus crystal is 20%
nimble field
the balance
charred gyro
the days of overpowered fork are no more
25% base damage, without levelups
so when an attack deals 25% base damage, it includes levelups, but when fork increases your base damage, it's based on your level 1 base damage?
stable ridge
it's like pretty bad to word it like that because smth like base regeneration is called base regeneration because it's meant to increase with level
simply calling it base damage here without any mention of level 1 or whatever isn't that good
stable ridge
> the days of overpowered fork are no more
> 25% base damage, without levelups
s...
but yeah it'd basically be +3 damage to my understanding on most survivors
charred gyro
ah ok
timid swallow
fork is like
better than before till stage 3-4 or something
vital acorn
Yeah I dm'd em and asked if it was possible and they got it out in less than a day, what an awesome person!
timid swallow
based
charred gyro
wow nice
is there a master post of resources for modding that I can bookmark for when it's time for me to start making my hello world mod
nimble field
charred gyro
Thanks!
near zinc
how does one go about getting more lunar coins by changing a save file
cause i looked up a yt vid and it didnt work i
timid swallow
you go n change the value of <coin> <coin/>, save the file and that's it
placeholder spot for the treasure which gets spawned by the treasure map from mystic's items
charred gyro
lol the way I have artificer now, every heresy item except strides is a direct upgrade to each of my abilities
maelstrom is strong area damage, better than my m2, visions is great ranged damage, which is better than my m1, and I hate my special so ruin is a no brainer
hifu huntress tweaks is unironically good but nerfs her only good skill and ONLY that skill, cursor freed earlier is great qol if the game takes a long time to load, betterUI just gives you a side panel with arcane stats so you don't have to memorize
timid swallow
exposemercfix is good when playin merc
charred gyro
If you're impatient, SacrificeRemix fucktuples the spawn rate at in exchange for making it so you will never psychologically be able to play without it again
timid swallow
AutoSkipIntroCutscene
charred gyro
HenryMod gives you ||nemry|| which, my name, but more specifically he's a hybrid ranged/melee character with a diverse kit and decent damage
StartingItemsGUI for specifically free mode radar scanner just to teach you the layout of any given level (Radar scanner is a crutch but it's good for learning)
UnlockAll is good if you're constantly adding and removing mods so you don't have to deal with unlock conditions multiple times
ItemDropList is good because sometimes you want to ban items
EphemeralCoins is nice if you feel like hacking coins is ideologically impure and BiggerBazaar is nice if you feel like the power level of the game is too low
but with BB the game is very binary based on whether you get a blue orb or newt altar, which is possibly un-fun
the corpsebloom rework (I forget the name) is I guess nice if you've ever thought "I like corpsebloom but I wish it wasn't a lunar, but I wish you still got it like a lunar"
there are mods (I forget the name also) that speed up chests, scrappers, and printers, which are good qol but imho alter the balance of the game in a way I wouldn't personally put in my game
this run is really fun
purity, visions, hooks, essence, five glasses, five topaz brooch
not command but I did start with five glasses
charred gyro
EphemeralCoins also lets you change how frequently a blue orb spawns and whether going through the portal affects the spawn rate of future blue orbs in that run
charred gyro
ok I hate the spite bomb elites and the ones that constantly shimmer like imps, what mods do I go into the configs of to delete those
the equipment is Bloody Fealty and either Primordial Rage or Lingering Torment (can't remember which)
ah it's all from lost in transit
what exactly do blighted elites do? Just Blighted VFX + exactly 2 other elite affixes?
timid swallow
lingering torment
timid swallow
what exactly do blighted elites do? Just Blighted VFX + exactly 2 other elite af...
yeah
charred gyro
my issue with the imp vfx elites is that they seem to get a ton more health than normal elites
timid swallow
i dont really get why nebby thinks they are brilliant but ok
the spawn methods are pretty cool tho, the more things you kill the more credits blighted director has to make an enemy blighted
timid swallow
my issue with the imp vfx elites is that they seem to get a *ton* more health th...
they are supposed to be 1.5 tier elites
charred gyro
i dont really get why nebby thinks they are brilliant but ok
the spawn methods a...
that does seem nice as long as the elite affixes themselves aren't excessively rippy
timid swallow
but on higher difficulties than monsoon they just appear too early
charred gyro
I know there are elites that pursue you faster and teleport but those aren't the imp vfx ones
the imp vfx ones are constantly shimmering red and teleport like fifteen times
vestal gulch
Sanguine Elites
Aetherium
timid swallow
frenzied elites yea
charred gyro
sanguine from aetherium, thanks
I think it's specifically the extra 2x health (on top of elite health) that's the issue for me
although seeing now that they're 2.5x as expensive as a T1 elite does make me think maybe I'm overreacting and they're balanced for how infrequently they spawn
vestal gulch
Yeah, they're not amazingly well-balanced
It's not even that they're necessarily super threatening
Just really annoying
charred gyro
well I have the option in config to make them do normal elite damage (which is the default) and have normal elite health
but then it wouldn't make sense for them to be more expensive then a normal elite, so I'm at a loss
the wiki:
tier 1 elites have 4 times the health
like tier 1 elites, perfected monsters have 2 times the health
vestal gulch
Yeah, wiki is wrong for Perfected
Perfected is its own tier, hence 2x more HP instead of the usual T1 4x
timid swallow
although seeing now that they're 2.5x as expensive as a T1 elite does make me th...
infrequently
vietnam flashbacks of my screen being pitch black-red because i wanted to play a bit on groove's funny difficulties
charred gyro
ok I've decided
their cost multiplier should be 1 and their health multiplier should be 1
their unique thing is that they teleport randomly, making them difficult to pin down
just like how glacial elites' thing doesn't improve their damage (past normal elite scale) while they're alive, it just slows you
jade prairie
@everyone
charred gyro
oh shit executioner got a rework and now he's fun
vestal gulch
Yeah
They fixed one of the more glaring issues with the character in SS2 Nightly
charred gyro
what is that? the secondary not getting charges unless you kill things?
I wanted to guess even though I would probably be wrong
vestal gulch
Yeah
Overreliance on kills, and it being a main damage ability fired off faster than you can necessarily make kills
charred gyro
hey so
I may be way off base with this
but is a lot of mod content based on shaders, VFX, and animations already present in the base game?
and if so, is the reason because it's easy to reuse assets rather than have to design new assets?
vestal gulch
Shaders, I think so
VFX, you can make your own, though there's no shame in reusing ones from the base game
Same for animations
charred gyro
one of the things that has me reluctant to make an alt utility for nemry is wondering what exactly I'm going to do for the animation but at the same time that seems like a problem that's easy to solve once you know what to do
er what you want to do I mean*
agile chasm
what does LighterPatcher do? is it a dependency or is it a standalone mod?
vestal gulch
Standalone mod
Optimizes the modloading process
supple ingot
love how i have faster printer and scraper but they arnt any faster
sonic osprey
love how i have faster printer and scraper but they arnt any faster
Do you also use WolfoQoL?
The two mods you have should make scrappers and printers instantaneous. Unless you have another mod that is also affecting them.
copper herald
Personally, Fast printers feels kinda like cheating
There's a mighty fine reason why you cant churn out crowbars
supple ingot
Do you also use WolfoQoL?
yes
wooden light
Is the vr mod compatible with the current version of the game
vestal gulch
Yes
wooden light
Ok thanks
sonic osprey
yes
So that mod is overriding the other two. Go into the config and disable the changes to printers and scrappers. While you're there, you might as well set the delay on shrine uses to 0, itll make chance shrines instantaneous.
supple ingot
i had a mod for that also lol
sonic osprey
Yeah me too. If you set the delay to 0 I don't think you'll even need the chance shrine mod.
I don't care about the balance aspect of not waiting at interactables I just want to do my thing and move on.
And not get killed by the one hermit crab or mushroom I wasn't able to find.
Or if a chance shrine is going to rob me blind at least it'll do it as fast as I can click the interact button rather than slowly and painfully.
charred gyro
so I want EarntConsumable mode on starting items to stack a lot faster since I don't think it's reasonable for Earnt mode to take multiple runs just to earn enough credits for a green item... what are some good values so I can reliably get a white item and maybe a green item on any decent run and a red item if the run does particularly well?
or rather from any decent run, the idea being that I would run mainly in Earnt mode and get enough credits for at least one white item every run to sustain the playstyle
supple ingot
So that mod is overriding the other two. Go into the config and disable the chan...
all the old printer are set to false and i didnt see anything for scrapers
sonic osprey
In which config file?
supple ingot
for wolfoqol
sonic osprey
Last time I used it they were right next to eachother "enable scrapper changes" and "enable printer changes." They are both true or false values.
Setting them to false would give priority to the other two mods.
supple ingot
i dont see anything for that
sonic osprey
I think what you were changing was the visual designs of the printers.
supple ingot
nvm i found it
sonic osprey
The value for the shrines should be there too
stable ridge
Old printers is visuals
agile chasm
is there a mod that removes monster events from the game like lemurian only
nimble field
agile chasm
this happened after i dl'd that mod. i tried running it as admin and nothing happened
oh shit i'm dumb
nimble field
yea
agile chasm
the game is open
nimble field
also also #ror2-modding message
dry solstice
I downloaded r2modman but it's not working
I selected my mods and clicked "Start modded" with a couple mods
None of them are showing up ingame
wise ferry
I selected my mods and clicked "Start modded" with a couple mods
you'd also find this info in the help section of the manager
charred gyro
with Chaotic_Spite_Bombs I might even turn the spite elite back on, that looks funny as fuck
exotic quartz
For the more players mod does only the host need to have it or does everyone need to?
Toomanyfriends
@vestal gulch
vestal gulch
Host
Just make sure you also have UnmoddedVersion installed
exotic quartz
Thanks
vestal gulch
Yeah, some older mods don't have the proper tags
exotic quartz
Nice hollow knight pfp btw
vestal gulch
Thanks
stiff steeple
I suddenly have several potential ideas for modded things despite my complete lack of modding/programming ability
vestal gulch
Depending on the scope of the mod, you can get by with little to no C# knowledge
There's a bunch of resources in the modding discord, whose invite is in the pins here
stiff steeple
it was mostly expanding on the Twisted Scavengers and the Beads of Fealty
more unique scavs, a stacking effect for the beads, that sort of thing
reef swallow
hi is there a mod that lets us modify item's stats in config?
vestal gulch
Nothing for full item modification currently, only proc coefficient
HIFU is working on a mod that should include full item modification, but idk when he'll release that since the mod is massive
vestal gulch
Proc coefficient is the multiplier used when determining the chance to proc an item
For example, Commando's Double Tap has a 1.0 proc coeff. An ATG has a 10% chance to proc. So 10x1, or 10% chance to proc
But Captain's (individual) shotgun pellets have a 0.75 proc coeff, so that ATG would be 10x0.75, or 7.5% chance to proc
Some items also have proc coefficients, such as the aforementioned ATG, which can lead to proc chains
vestal gulch
Pretty much
vestal gulch
Proc coefficient is pretty important, just never mentioned in the game
reef swallow
i wish they nerf some items
uneven gale
just out of curiosity, what does it mean when a setting type is "Boolean"?
uneven gale
gotcha
timid swallow
just out of curiosity, what does it mean when a setting type is "Boolean"?
that's a very old config
void elites are dead dead
unkempt igloo
hey does anyone happen to know what causes this?
we have a lot of mods, but I remember this happening a lot back when we only had like 5 or so mods
I remember this even happening in vanilla, but my friend says he isn't sure
timid swallow
https://i.imgur.com/H72VlNe.png
you have your profiles synced right? sent that profile code etc etc, all config are the same
if true, check if you have any deprecated mods in the pack
unkempt igloo
you have your profiles synced right? sent that profile code etc etc, all config ...
funnily enough, it was somehow caused by risk of ruina, and yet, when we uninstalled risk of ruina and installed the deprecated character mods (the characters from risk of ruina, but separate from the other content) now the game magically works
unkempt igloo
I don't get how it's conflict though when all risk of ruina adds is the 2 characters and like 8 items
and when I install the 2 characters separately (which is deprecated for some reason) now it works
timid swallow
they are deprecated just because risk of ruina exists
hollow oracle
what would it mean if some item mods just have broken icons?
a few items from mysticitems and aetherium
white boxes instead
timid swallow
maybe installation went wrong, happens recently more often than usual
just reinstall
timid blaze
modding
timid swallow
isaac item mod isaac item mod isaac item mod
timid blaze
it is actually kinda fun tbh
timid swallow
would it be a primary replacement
timid swallow
rock bottom
regen from slug never falls off
barrier never decays
armor from jade elephant never goes away
timid blaze
oh lord
glass without downside
tonic afflictions do nothing
kinda hard to program though tbh
timid swallow
d4 to reroll everything you have in inventory just because
stable ridge
You'd just need a way to store all the values in like a seperate rock-bottom behaviour
timid swallow
forget me now on aqueduct/stage 4
stable ridge
Meme Cleaver just activates artifact of swarms
timid blaze
cleaver could also be fun with actual size reduction like in isaac
honestly, that should be a thing in swarms
timid blaze
does this game even have item ids?
stable ridge
yeah of course but they're Alphabetical by internal name
yknow just list_item
ItemIndex/EquipmentIndex is the closest thing to that anyways
Just add any flight item to the game with permament chrysalis
charred gyro
trying out ninja again
how do I kill elite wisps as him?
or really wisps in general since his dash doesn't always one shot them
nimble field
if you're using the first dash, it can do multiple hits, it has multiple hitboxes
try to hit them with it, its side and its edge at once
charred gyro
ah I see
that explains why its damage felt so inconsistent, it's because I wasn't paying attention to the center of the dash and trying to clip them with the edge of it
merry gate
is there a way for the config settings to be saved when sharing a code, cos for a lot of the item mods my friend and i turn off some of them but when we share it to another person, even though we check the config editor the mods are turned off but it doesnt register that they are and they cant join the lobby
charred gyro
Is the minimum drop chance 5% for sacrifice, or is that just the lowest value that naturally occurs? i.e. if I install a mod that lets me reduce the drop chance to 2.5%, would that work or would that only affect monsters who aren't already capped below?
nimble field
pretty sure sacrifice tweaks lets you change the minimum drop chance
which would be the base ig
charred gyro
yeah that's why I ask, the wiki says there's a hard lower cap of 5% in the game code and I'm wondering if sacrifice tweaks accounts for that
nimble field
Sacrifice_Tweaks with Base Drop Chance 5, Max Drop Chance 10, Swarms Base Drop Chance 3.5, Swarms Max Drop Chance 8
is about the same item count as not having sacrifice enabled, even with swarms
charred gyro
yeah I want to use SacrificeRemix to increase monster spawn rate but in exchange I want to reduce drop chance substantially, to worse than it is with Swarms
charred gyro
Sacrifice_Tweaks with Base Drop Chance 5, Max Drop Chance 10, Swarms Base Drop C...
what do you mean "no sacrifice"?
charred gyro
also I feel like I'm missing something small with Starting Items... I have limbo set to x15 and monsoon set to x8 but after clearing 8 stages I got 900 credits, not 960
consumable credits that is
for persistent I'm using the default, which is 2.5x for limbo and 4x for monsoon, which comes out to 80 credits, which is exactly how many I got
stiff steeple
Depending on the scope of the mod, you can get by with little to no C# knowledge
in retrospect the only thing that would require any actual coding is the BoF stacking effect
I can just copy-paste the twisted scavenger code and change the items and names to make new ones
charred gyro
ok so the way I have it set now, a stage 8 obliteration gives me 600 credits (enough for one red item and two green items) and stage 8 twisted scavenger gives me 900 which is more in line with the kind of sustainability I want from my runs
my goal is to treat earned persistent mode as what I play to earn consumable credits and earned consumable as my main mode
sonic osprey
is there a way for the config settings to be saved when sharing a code, cos for ...
That's odd. Configs should be saved when sharing profile codes. If it's not doing that's an error.
sonic osprey
how can I tell what the mod errors are?
Do not pay attention to that. It's a bad feature. Basically the way to handel mods in this game is if it doesn't cause an issue with game play ignore it. But if you notice a problem happening, pause and check the log to see what it says.
stiff steeple
LostInTransit Aspects are dropping as equipment rather than items despite the fact that I have ZetAspects installed and converting aspects into items
the only config option that could be causing this forces aspects to drop as equipment if elite variety is installed and that's not the case here
any potential solutions?
charred gyro
hmmm
I seem to have broken Bloody Fealty?
I haven't seen any sanguine elites (or whatever they're called) since I set the cost multiplier to 1
sonic osprey
LostInTransit Aspects are dropping as equipment rather than items despite the fa...
Did you update to the newest version of zetaspects?
Like the update that came out yesterday?
stiff steeple
yes
sonic osprey
That update may have caused a problem then. Is it just the LIT aspects?
I had a LIT aspect drop for me last night, it dropped as an equipment but I have it set to do that and I convert them to items if I want to.
If you can confirm its repeatable problem with the LIT aspects I'll let the zetaspects mod dev know about it.
stiff steeple
it's just those yeah
normal aspects are still items but don't have their proper names
or descriptions
sonic osprey
Do you have any other mods that affect aspects? WolfoQoL?
stiff steeple
pretty sure I do not, no
sonic osprey
Okay. I'll let him know
stiff steeple
alright, thank you
sonic osprey
Revert zetaspects to previous version for now, temporary solution
stiff steeple
how would I do that?
I use r2modman
vestal gulch
Find the mod in the mod browser, click download, and in the prompt, you can select the mod version
tulip laurel
Does anyone know which mod adds the enemy drops?
vestal gulch
SivsItems
tulip laurel
thanks
vestal gulch
You mean unique enemy items, right?
tulip laurel
yes
vestal gulch
Okay yeah, SivsItems
sonic osprey
You'll want to go into the config and turn up the drop rates if you actually want to get some in your runs.
I can't remember what the default is but I set them to 0.3
vestal gulch
Can't remember what the default drop rate is
It's pretty low though
sonic osprey
I think it's 0.1
vestal gulch
Yeah, sounds right
Of the 30-something runs I've had since putting in SivsItems
I've had about 3 enemy item drops
Probably just me being unlucky if the default drop rate is 0.1 though
sonic osprey
At 0.3 I can get around 3 per loop.
sonic osprey
I think 0.3 is 0.3% chance to drop.
vestal gulch
Ah, 1:1
sonic osprey
So 0.1 is 1 in 1000 chance to drop.
I think zetaspects changes the aspect drop rate from 1 in 4000 to 1 in 500 or 0.2% so I figured 0.3 was probably good for SivsItems when a lot of them are not THAT strong.
The strongest part of some of the SivsItems drops is sometimes being fuel for boss item printers if you find a good one.
vital crest
Anyone else have an issue with starstorm2 instakilling bosses without rewards?
charred gyro
lmao
I think I have to uninstall Ninja because he's causing UI issues on character select
charred gyro
ok I halved the drop rate on both swarms and without swarms and re-enabled SacrificeRemix which increases director credit income by (I think) 1.25x
timid swallow
Anyone else have an issue with starstorm2 instakilling bosses without rewards?
that's lost in transit's leeching elites setting their regen to -12749628847
stiff steeple
how the hell does that happen
timid swallow
I don't rememberrr
I think, that regen passive generates two values for some reason i dont remember, and nebby set it to choose a lower value, and because regen value integer overflows for some reason, code chooses that smallest possible value
charred gyro
honestly 2-choice command is really problematic for the bazaar because it all but guarantees I'll never see the specific lunar item I'm looking for
timid swallow
relic of mass?
calm plinth
zets aspect seems to be broken right now and not turning them into items or changing effect
vestal gulch
Known issue
Just revert it to an older version
Find the mod in the mod browser, click download, and in the prompt, you can select the mod version to revert to
charred gyro
relic of mass?
at the time it was defiant gouge but this also works for corpsebloom and transcendence, which I generally want one of every time I go to the bazaar
supple ingot
imagine having 1000 shield and still dieing in 2 hits on easy
charred gyro
imagine having 1000 shield and still dieing in 2 hits on easy
imagine playing easy
supple ingot
imagine playing easy
it always start on easy everytime you start
charred gyro
it always start on easy everytime you start
oh sorry forgot you were talking about the internal difficulty and not drizzle, proceed
were you on easy 1, 2, or 3
charred gyro
you had 1000 shield with 2 shaped glass?
supple ingot
yes
charred gyro
did you just roll a billion transcendence and pick up 2 shaped glass along the way?
supple ingot
i had the mod that makes bears into armor
vestal gulch
Oh
Armor, not shield
charred gyro
that makes bears into what
vestal gulch
No wonder why you died
vestal gulch
that makes bears into what
Durable Bears
Makes Tougher Times grant armor instead of a chance to block damage
Without lowering its armor value, the default values are stupid
supple ingot
thought armor was suppose to help u not take as much damage
vestal gulch
Armor reduces damage taken, but if you've got 2 shaped glass it's not gonna help that much
charred gyro
Durable Bears
Makes Tougher Times grant armor instead of a chance to block damag...
so you're saying linear stacking 6 armor is better than hyperbolic stacking 15% block chance?
supple ingot
i had enough to make it 1000 amor and so how can they 2 shot me still wouldent that early in the game should block alot of damage ?
charred gyro
I'm not arguing, I'm just trying to clarify
vestal gulch
so you're saying linear stacking 6 armor is better than hyperbolic stacking 15% ...
15 armor per stack
vestal gulch
i had enough to make it 1000 amor and so how can they 2 shot me still wouldent t...
1000 armor is a roughly 90% damage reduction
But with 2 shaped glass, a lesser wisp would only need to breath on you to one-shot
charred gyro
15 armor per stack
fuck hang on remind me, is armor in ror2 stronger than armor in league of legends or weaker
supple ingot
still confuzed 1000 armor not strong enough 2 min into game to not get 2 shot i had 200 health i had some infusions
vestal gulch
fuck hang on remind me, is armor in ror2 stronger than armor in league of legend...
MUL-T's transport mode grants 200 armor and can allow it to tank a Mithrix hammer slam
Should tell you enough
Jade Elephant grants 500 armor and can allow you to facetank through a lot of things
vestal gulch
still confuzed 1000 armor not strong enough 2 min into game to not get 2 shot i...
idk how you got 2 shot then
1000 armor at 200 HP is enough at the easy stage to avoid one shots from most things unless said thing is dealing massive damage in one go