ror2-modding

[obsidian sparrow]

yo peeps ive got item stats, faster scrapers/ recyclers and load save. are There any other mods that yall recommend to maintain the base gameplay but improve quility of life?

[slow skiff]

LookingGlass is nice

[hidden jackal]

Silly items

[wind wren]

Autosprint, hold space to jump, stageaesthetics, wolfoqol

[neat bolt]

Is there any chance ror2 to get an official mod support?

[stable ridge]

no

[regal schooner]

At this point, it's likelier than not that having more official mod support than the cooperation and openness between the devs and modding community that already exists would flatten the modding landscape and the mods that could fit into the official support framework would be much blander, simpler things than what we have now. RoR2 mods as they currently exist are basically unsigned code, there's no way that's being embraced wholesale without clamping intense restrictions on the whole situation.

[stable ridge]

not really much point to mod support that is more official than it is now

and if it's a console question then, lol no

[regal schooner]

Typically people mean shit like built-in browsing and installation or Workshop type setups, which we're not gonna see lmao.

[stable ridge]

Steam Workship is more ass and less user friendly than thunderstore (for the modder)

the only thing I could see is easier / auto downloading mods for modded lobbies

but this isn't much of a play with strangers game

[slow skiff]

Darkest Dungeon 1 is the only game I’ve seen that had really good official mod support

or I guess workshop support

anything along the lines of Fallout’s Creation Club can go right to hell

[lethal cosmos]

im trying to use spikestrip/zetaspects aragonite elite aspect but it wont trigger the "occasionally unleash a burst of anger on hit" i tried giving myself 100 clovers as well as getting hit, but it wont seem to activate

i spawned in an aragonite monster and the enemy lightning effect only happens on turrets and drones, not players

[brittle hamlet]

Gonna bump this bcuz I feel like a lunatic

[dapper sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/754133925109956675/1186220562255728720/boots.gif?ex=697e633c&is=697d11bc&hm=de262a6666f3757984ecdf0a1c0ca2cfaa767ee69d0496e8068b1a7374f30739&

[stable ridge]

i removed it for proper save support reasons didnt wanna deal with saving and reading that

maybe I can readd it if ill do another pass

[brittle hamlet]

Ahhhh

[paper lynx]

QUESTION, the REAL (starstorm) chirr, how do i know my max minion count-

alr wait scratch that i think its hard coded to one, side note, i think the void parasites posessing a creature (which keeps it on your side) causes it to free up a minion space an allow for 2

okay wait

is it based off of charges?

no okay nvm

its def a bug with the void parasites lmao

thats neat tho lets you get a free extra minion if you find a parasite

[arctic acorn]

What are the recommended mods

[regal schooner]

That varies pretty widely by taste. What kind of stuff are you looking for? New content? QoL stuff? More difficulty? Less difficulty? Vanilla friendly? Completely out of left field? Real and serious? Jokes and memes?

[dapper sleet]

for starters id download everything under the team "icebr o"..,.,., from what ives hesrd they have some pret ty good mods .,..,.,,.,..,,..,.,.,..,

[steel marsh]

I just had an idea for a mod/feature that will literally solve the biggest problem I have with this game (item pool dilution) and it's simply this: every time you get an item, you have a slightly higher chance of the next item you get being an item you already have. this chance starts of very very low, but it increases the more items you have.
the downside/counterpoint to my idea: as good as this idea is, it has the side effect of making runs even more rng-based than they already are. so if you have any solution for this side effect let me know, or if you know other flaws this idea might have

[mystic kayak]

hello ror2 mod chat, i have come to share what i think is a very hot take

quality mod is way too overhyped

its a neat idea that even reminds me of an idea i had for an 8th (or 9th i guess now) item rarity

but i feel like it was executed not well at all

[paper lynx]

incase people still somehow dont think trancendence is busted, it makes your minions with chirr not lose hp overtime (theyre basically immortal)

[mystic kayak]

why are there 4 different quality versions of each item when they're all the same effect but stronger
it just adds needless complexity and bloats the logbook
why are the uncommon quality items usually nearly worthless when getting anything higher than that is quite rare
the varying effects of the different quality items are also a complete hit and miss with how they're handled, like who cares about giving chronobauble a chance for a bigger slow?
and its unclear how other quality items interact with having multiple qualities of the same item (i.e. bustling fungus or gasoline)

plus, i know this isn't really the fault of the mods' creators especially with how new the mod is but it ends up feeling really wrong that it doesn't support modded items

(also i feel like the 1.25x difficulty scaling multiplier was COMPLETELY unnecessary but thankfully you can modify that in config 👍 )

[paper lynx]

chirr-core (peak gameplay)

[mystic kayak]

im pretty sure transcendence and shared design nullify all sources of negative regen bc of it annihilating heretic from existence

[winter zealot]

When mod that still has bugs and issues has bugs and issues so I blame Transcendence

[mystic kayak]

transcendence is still busted tho

[winter zealot]

That's true

[paper lynx]

?

[paper lynx]

yuh

[winter zealot]

Starstorm2 has some issues that are still present in the current version so it's no surprise that it has issues with Transcendence

[paper lynx]

also just the average golem ykkk nothing special trust

[winter zealot]

To be fair shield convertion in the base game is flawed

[paper lynx]

yeah its busted lol

amazing run chirr is top 3

i think my list is driver chirr cyborg

ALSO speaking of starstorm, how do you get the beta for cyborg?

as in like the official cyborg

[lost echo]

nothing quite like making mithrix die of death

[floral dragon]

Is the logbook really that important? The mod's main purpose is to add a unique experience and an excitement when you get those good quality items, yeah some of them aren't amazing but they're trying to improve upon that, pretty sure some of them have placeholder effects too. Supporting modded items is kind of unrealistic as there are so many of them it would probably need over twice as much work

It feels like a small expansion upon the base game so I think it's okay

[mystic kayak]

no the logbook is not that important but its still weird. i am aware what the purpose of the mod is, i just don't think it does a good job at it atm. didn't know that some of the effects were wip, so i'll probably keep a look out for that. and yes i know supporting mods is unrealistic but that doesn't make it any less annoying for me.

i moreso brought up the logbook to show my point of the fact that theres just too many damn rarities

i feel like if they aren't going to give a new effect to each rarity for each item then they shouldn't be adding more than 1 quality rarity because it just makes it confusing how they interact with other qualities unless its outright stated in their logbook entries how they interact

[floral dragon]

I can see where you're coming from and tbh they could've just made it 3 rarities instead of 5, hell even 1 would've probably been fine since each rarity does the same thing just better

[mystic kayak]

(and before you say anything i know that making 4 different effects for every item in the game would be absurd. that isn't my point. my point is that if you can't do it you shouldn't.)

[mystic kayak]

i personally feel like it shouldve just been 1, it could be their blue/purple variant

because i feel like the green ones are universally super underwhelming except for the ones where their quality counterparts just act like extra stacks of the non-quality version (i.e. goat hoof, syringe, etc)

[floral dragon]

Yeah I think what they're trying to do with so many rarities is to make each run feel more unique, if they changed some of the underwhelming ones it'd prob be fine

[mystic kayak]

yes i fully understand that

[floral dragon]

Yeah each item should prob have a different effect at least

[mystic kayak]

but it needs more work

[floral dragon]

Getting 75% attack speed from 1 syringe is still quite funny

[mystic kayak]

i plan to do a couple more runs with it just to give it a fair chance but

pretty high likelihood im just gonna uninstall it

[floral dragon]

From my knowledge they're constantly looking for feedback and trying to improve it

[mystic kayak]

given that the base chance for an item to be quality is 1/25 i feel like they should be balanced around that

the uncommon quality items feel more like what youd get if they were 1/5

[floral dragon]

It'd be nice if they allowed you to change each quality item's stats and such

[mystic kayak]

config menu is suddenly 50 pages long

[floral dragon]

Also you can change the drop rates of them pretty sure

You can fit them all in 1 page on r2modman

[mystic kayak]

i probably will experiment with that

[wet gulch]

this is an execution issue that the devs would love to hear your thoughts on in the quality discussion channel in the risk of resources discord

[mystic kayak]

i am not in that discord

im only in this discord

[wet gulch]

i'm pretty sure you can just join it from the tag next to my name in discord
if not, you can find links on the official twitch or youtube

[mystic kayak]

nope i cant

also im not joining a brand new discord server just to dump an essay's worth of criticisms and nothing else :L

I knew literally nothing about risk of resources aside from the fact they made this mod

if one of the creators pops in here i'll be glad to talk about it but yeah joining a server just to say "i don't like your mod, here's why" and then leaving just seems weird

[left inlet]

I really wonder if a character mod based off fighter jets/fighter pilots would be cool. Even what that would look like.

[waxen fog]

hello, i'm encountering an issue with looking glass mod : it won't show item description on ping even though it's checked in the mod options. did anyone else encounter this issue and if so how did you fix it ? Thanks in advance

[native lance]

what do i do after entering here https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[fossil wasp]

like, how to download it?

just click manual download

[frosty oracle]

It is safe if you download it from the official site

pulsa en Mais informações e te deixará instalar

[brittle hamlet]

If they’ve asked for feedback I don’t think it’s that unfair (if you’re being level headed and reasonable— talking about the mod you played is like, exactly on topic)

[keen dagger]

So I’ve heard that people have had issues accidents damaging Solus Heart and accident rejecting the offer when trying to get skins. Is there a mod that makes it so you can’t accidentally reject the offer?

[frosty oracle]

Solus heart can only be damaged by a direct hit from a skill. From what I have seen on #ror2-game-questions those reports are usually because people are playing Eclipse, where you cannot accept

[slow skiff]

yeah it’s actually easier to accidentally accept the offer than reject

[paper lynx]

whered you get dod survs whats the mod called

[wind wren]

It’s just killdroid, it released recently

[blazing anchor]

there is a name of a mod that changes the pings and icons right? anyone know the naem/

[spring gorge]

hey guys,i just got thunderstore. could anyone reccomend some good mods to try first?

[paper lynx]

starstorm2

[lost echo]

it's got enough content to be considered a dlc expansion

[dense hornet]

alright, for the verminareweaker mod, does anyone know if it causes an excess of elite enemies to spawn?

me and a friend downloaded it and had a horde of ice beetles spawn and nuke our run stage 1

[paper lynx]

finally found the config for starstorm2 beta so i can finally use cyborg :DDDD

time to be an elite survivor

[paper lynx]

yo is anybody else having issues with cyborg?

ive done the quest a few times and its straight up not unlocking him-

anybody got any idea what could be wrong?

[vocal ginkgo]

in what way?

[vocal ginkgo]

i recommend starstorm squared and monarch's starstorm tweaks :)

[vocal ginkgo]

idk sorry

[wheat mural]

are you guys also having problems launching the game?

my ror2 is not launching and always keeps not responding

is there an issue with the server or something more local?

[wind wren]

It’s beta content

Expect issues

[slow skiff]

Quality collector’s compulsion printers are overpowered
if you have a decent amount of quality greens and go all in, every stage is like permanent +30% to all stats

[paper lynx]

well yeah but mannn i jst cant unlock him now?

[wind wren]

The humble realercheatunlocks:

[slow skiff]

WHY DOES PARRYING WITH DEUS EX STILL COUNT AS A HIT FOR QUALITY WATCHES

[lean scarab]

does anyone know what mod adds the extra stuff to the results screen like stages and what skills u had

[fossil wasp]

wolfoqualityoflife

[lean scarab]

thx

[floral dragon]

Anyone knows of a mod that would allow me to move inferno difficulty to be after typhoon?

[fossil wasp]

difficultyselect or something along those lines

[floral dragon]

thanks ill check it out

mmm i can only enable/disable difficulties with that mod it seems

[fossil wasp]

..cant you choose the order?

[daring knoll]

does anyoen have a good QOL for mod profile that works for vanilla?

[floral dragon]

unless im blind no i cannot

[whole sedge]

how are you guys even getting mods to work

[regal schooner]

Pretty easily. Install a mod manager and don't lose you mind installing every single mod you see right off the bat.

[slow skiff]

Thunderstore is good

[fossil wasp]

thunderstore mod manager is r2modman but with ads and overwolf

[fossil wasp]

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[rain bolt]

anyone know why my modded game keeps crashing?

it takes forever to load and then gives me a “ror2 failed to load” message

[sterile shoal]

send a screenshot of modpack
it could be incompatible mods
could be too many mods
could be old mods that havent been updated for AC

[rain bolt]

well i also had a “failed to load mono” message

[rain bolt]

its says game not responding before the modpack is even done loading

[haughty leaf]

Sanity check it with just having core stuff like bepinex, r2api and Fixplugintypes enabled and nothing else if you haven't already

If even that fails then fully close steam/end steams process and reopen it by right clicking steams exe > run as admin and then verify ror2s game files > run the game from steam in vanilla first then retry the bare minimum core mods setup again

[tawny wave]

its been a long since i played ror2 and im back to this game, im thinking of speedrunning it, is there any latest or newest guides for the speedrun?

[crystal swallow]

Suggestions for mods that show you what items do?

[rain bolt]

how do i do that?

[haughty basin]

Yknow what'd be sick? A mod that adds voice lines for the Mithrix & False Son fights

Doubt anyone would be able to do that though

[vocal ginkgo]

i have Great News

https://thunderstore.io/package/egpimp/VoiceActedMithrixRedux/

[haughty basin]

Oh damn fr?

That's cool

Is it client-side?

[vocal ginkgo]

thinks so

[haughty basin]

you thinks so?

[vocal ginkgo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[formal summit]

do you guys recommend making a new profile ingame for mods?

[wind wren]

Not really necessary unless you care about keeping your statistics pristine

[haughty leaf]

What do you mean how?
With the mod manager you can just make a new profile and only download bepinex, r2api and such
With the verify stuff you just do as I described? I guess I did forget to say you just right click ror2 on steam > properties > installed files > verify integrity but I figured that wouldn't be too hard to find out or google in worst case lol

[rain bolt]

sounds good thanks

[mystic kayak]

decides to retry starstorm 2 after like 3 years because devs told me they fixed most of the issues i had with the mod
said issues are still there and arguably even worse than before
w grindset

give me a fucking break

3 hours of my life i'll never get back

[vocal ginkgo]

thats a vanilla thing afaik

sorry

[haughty leaf]

Which issues by chance? (Quick search and it does kind of seem you just don't really gel with any content mods other than survivors so maybe it just literally isn't for you?)

[vocal atlas]

first item I have all qualities for

[wintry leaf]

why cant i send clips???

[fossil wasp]

#roles

[glacial bloom]

Is there a decent commando buff mod? I tried a commando run with the new DLC on Monsoon and couldn't stand getting constant swarmed by those guys on stage 3 as commando specifically

Or I guess the inverse would apply too, a solus scorcher nerf mod

I had a similar issue with Acrid but at least he has more attention economy than Commando

I dunno, maybe it could have been possible with a better build, and Commando is notoriously item dependent...

8 lens makers couldn't poke through the mob of machines and dispersers that were constantly barraging me haha

[modern verge]

any mods to boost performance and reduce lategame lag?

[thick stag]

does goorakh's quality mod affect any of these mods

[final crest]

there's no particular interactions. only thing im sort of aware of is that i think LookingGlass item sorting overrides the inventory sorting stuff Quality tries to do but that's it

[humble belfry]

Hello

I am looking for a mod that will describe items when I am selecting which item to get from item list

I'm talking about a game mode where you can choose what item will drop from the box.

I started yesterday and when I am choosing items, I have no idea which item I should select

[wind wren]

https://thunderstore.io/package/HIFU/HIFUCommandoTweaks/

[glacial bloom]

tysm!

[slow skiff]

can be changed in settings

[swift stump]

Hey, just wanted to drop in and ask if anyone else has experienced latency issues when hosting a 4+ player lobby. We’re using the TooManyFriends mod by Moffein to increase the player count, and what we’ve noticed is that one player starts lagging early in the menu, with the rest of the lobby experiencing lag in later stages.

I’m not sure whether this is caused by hardware limitations or by the mod itself, since it was last updated in 2024. Also, would it be better to increase the party size manually via console commands, assuming that method still works?

[glass pike]

You don't necessarily need a mod for this, in the game there's modifiers called artifacts you get from doing trials. The artifact of command lets you choose the item you get when you pick it up. If you want items detailed descriptions, a mod like LookingGlass helps

[quiet flint]

just gotta try all the items, LookingGlass helps since you can ping stuff and get a full description

[haughty basin]

is there a mod that makes it so major bosses completely ignore drones and go straight for the player?

[forest path]

nah just dont use drones tbh 😭

also that mechanic technically is meant to help the player

just doesnt when it comes to the worms

[haughty basin]

yeah but it helps too much

like you’re just standing by watching Mithrix annihilate your drones, rather than actually partaking in the fight

[forest path]

well just dont use it then ig

maybe see if theres some agro thing

[quiet flint]

PrioritizePlayers

thatll make them still take some aggro, but much less

[forest path]

Dante by rob is prob the most fun modded character ive used I love devil may cry but yeah it is the most difficult to use

just because theres so much things to keep in mind but its hella fun

ive done about 7 or 8 runs so far lost every single one lol but theres stuff im learning each time that I didnt even know that existed

just because the character overview and skills descriptions are so extremely vague

yet theres a lot

[tropic aurora]

is there a mod to remove temporary items from the game?

[quiet flint]

no but you can disable the interactables and items that provide them

https://thunderstore.io/c/riskofrain2/p/PseudoCoffee/CustomInteractiblesSpawnChance/

[sullen fox]

hey does anyone know what happened to liamono by chance? theyre the ones who did the fem bandit, mando and merc skins

[charred tapir]

Does anyone know if I can find the teleporter hymn on each stage somewhere in the game files (or online)?

[bleak peak]

really funny modding moment
https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/m3vVeSfpE_awsf1cV?invite=cr-MSxJSTIsMjE3Mzc1NjQ2&v=29

[drowsy rose]

how do i install mods for ror2? im pretty new to modding

[slow skiff]

r2modman and thunderstore are in the pins

[halcyon nexus]

for the paladin mod how does one obtain the sunshine special

[hollow wyvern]

is that the one labeled something like "bare the full power of the sun"?

[fossil wasp]

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[coral cairn]

hi, has anyone ever encountered the "FPS drop slowly" glitch every time you reach Stage 5? I always got the "bug", but upon moving onto the next stage, my FPS was fine again

[fierce sage]

do you peraphs know how to solve the issue? ive been trying to join singleplayer or multiplayer and my screen just goes black

[lean scarab]

i had a realisation that with nospexkickout on u can basically just use him as an infinite damage sponge

[peak abyss]

Dos anyone know how to set the ror2 folder in the settings screen from thunderstore

[ripe nest]

if u got r2modman its easier

u just need to go to r2modman settings AFTER u make a profile

and search for "Change Rick of Rain 2 folder"

ya click on that and you locate your risk of rain 2 executable

[peak abyss]

Where exactly is ror2

[ripe nest]

steam folder

[peak abyss]

Yah but where

[ripe nest]

i think you know where to find it

[haughty leaf]

Right click ror2 2 on steam > manage > browse local files

[peak abyss]

Saddly no

[ripe nest]

that

[haughty leaf]

That'll take you to where you installed it

"How to find where I installed my game on steam" will also give the correct answer even by googles shitty ass ai summary (A world first on it being right for once)

So you have your folder window opened from clicking browse files right?

[ripe nest]

is that ur ip?

[peak abyss]

Must been the winds

I don't even know

[ripe nest]

also where do i find ppl to play with

[peak abyss]

Idk ask in any chat

[haughty leaf]

Click into the address bar on the explorer window that opened when you opened the game directory

Copy that and paste it into or follow that path when you go to change ror2 directory on the mod manager

[peak abyss]

On the up right side ?

[haughty leaf]

Up right side?

[peak abyss]

U mean different windo

[haughty leaf]

I guess? my advise is starting from the how to find your games install path and then what to do with that after you found it

[peak abyss]

I js found steamapps

What do I do next

Guide me

[haughty leaf]

So do you know where the game directory is? have you sorted that out

[peak abyss]

No

[haughty leaf]

Then do what I told you

[peak abyss]

Nvm I got it

I copyed the risk of rain 2 and number

And mp

What next

[haughty leaf]

So you have your path. Now on the mod manager click Change risk of rain 2 folder or whatever it's called on thunderstore mod manager and go to that path

[peak abyss]

What's 'that path'

[haughty leaf]

The one you just "found" that has the game exe in?

[haughty leaf]

For example my ror2s path

[peak abyss]

Soo do I open it ?

[haughty leaf]

When you go to choose the game directory on the mod manager and it opens a window that has the button "select Executable" you click on ror2s exe in the folder that has ror2s game exe

If it helps it's that window you opened up and sent an image off before paniclly deleting it thinking it had you ip

[peak abyss]

Directory on the mod manger ?

Wym by choose the game directory

[haughty leaf]

Is that not what you're trying to do?

[peak abyss]

Basically I'm trying to play modded ror2

[haughty leaf]

Ok and everything I've laid out so far is how you set that folder so you can then

[peak abyss]

It sayesset the ror2 folder in settings screen

Lits restart

First thing I open change ror2 folder

[haughty leaf]

Yes you seem to be putting the cart before the horse here despite this being like a two step process

[peak abyss]

Then what

[haughty leaf]

Ok and now you go to where ror2 is installed and select the game exe

[peak abyss]

I have it on file name

[haughty leaf]

Which you should know where it is cause you went to it earlier unless you hallucinated that in which case on the steam client "Right click ror2 on steam > manage > browse local files"

[peak abyss]

Do I right click ror2 on steam files or on steam app it self

I'm now on steam library

[haughty leaf]

Inside your steam client where all your games are, as if you were going to select the game to play like you would any other game. That's where you right click ror2

I'm going to just get print screen images

[peak abyss]

K

Nvm I'm in ror2

[haughty leaf]

I'm unsure how this is falling apart but the images are going to help far better than my words apparently will lmao

[peak abyss]

U sayed I need to be on ror2

I'm now in it

(the files)

Nvm I fixed it

[haughty leaf]

Oh right this server nukes iamges

[peak abyss]

Thanks for the help

[haughty leaf]

Lmao

Well problem solved I guess

[peak abyss]

The problim I'm on the ronge account

On steam

[haughty leaf]

Then log out and into the right account?

[peak abyss]

Yah I forgot

[haughty leaf]

This has felt like more of an ordeal than it should've been lol

If Mr beast crypto bots wearn't so common lately the server wouldn't have been forced to auto nuke posts with multiple iamges and I could've just sent those

[haughty basin]

it was a mod i had

[fierce sage]

dang it

[haughty basin]

actually no wait it was cuz i was using a vpn

not because of a mod

may be a thing with ur internet

[fierce sage]

i dont have either unfortunately, so its another kind of issue for me

[fierce sage]

nope i don think, its def a game's bug

[haughty leaf]

Internet disagreeing with how it wants to connect to others/Someone using VPNs causing the same issue/Game has commited die and the install is corrupted enough to still mostly work

[haughty basin]

Is there a mod to exclude certain things, e.g. shrines of healing from the list of things that can spawn on a map?

[vocal ginkgo]

content disabler should work for this

[zinc ether]

This survivor is batshit insane

[haughty leaf]

Least chaotic gameplay of the house

[fossil wasp]

?????????

[sudden apex]

What mod is making the stage explode?

[glad bloom]

Hi! My partner is having stuttering issues + having the game freeze for a frame or two while playing with or without mods
The game will just randomly drop frames or flat out freeze while she's playing, it happens more frequently in multiplayer than in singleplayer but it still happens there as well. She has a high end pc and has tried verifying her game files, uninstalling an reinstalling the game, messing with her settings and pretty much anything else that she can think of
Would anyone whose had similiar issues have any advice or any potential leads on how to fix this?
She tried stutter stunter but it didn't end up helping, are there any other mods or potential fixes?

[wind wren]

House

[quiet flint]

you should go to the modding discord's tech support channel for this

[glad bloom]

Ty!!

[halcyon plover]

Are there any UI mods like BetterUI? I loved using it but it's been deprecated for a while...

[regal schooner]

LookingGlass.

[halcyon plover]

Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

[flat beacon]

is there a mod that when you ping an item itll tell you what it does like actually

[regal schooner]

Also LookingGlass. Or ItemStats if you want a standalone.

[void swallow]

is there a mod that allows you to unlock certain items just by clicking on their silhouette?

i lost my mods/files after doing a SSD swap and really dont want to earn every single thing back again

oh shit nevermind, steam is goated and saved everything. im so happy now lol

[regal schooner]

RealerCheatUnlocks if you need that again in the future :p

[thick slate]

with the mod fix console how do I spawn enemies? im trying to spawn titangoldallymaster but after the r with the line there idk what key it is to type

[void swallow]

bless ur heart, thank you vm

[quiet flint]

https://thunderstore.io/c/riskofrain2/p/IHarbHD/DebugToolkit/

spawn_ai {ai} [count:1] [elite:None] [braindead (0|1):0/false] [team (team|'ally'):Monster]
spawn_ai TitanGoldMaster

ctrl alt ~ for console

[twin wren]

auto pickup kinda ruins drifter, huh

[wind wren]

Auto pickup is janky in general, it spams the lunar shop reroll machine if you go near it

[timid lark]

What the fuck is happening

[wind wren]

House

[zinc ether]

Modded survivor called house

[peak abyss]

I'm bord of moded custom charecter (mostly cuz ther over powered) are ther any balanced and fun modded charecter

[rigid trellis]

ravager and submariner

[quiet flint]

driver, deputy, lee hyperreal, ravager

[winter zealot]

Demolisher

[undone thunder]

does anyone have a mod to like delete the snow sounds

i hate ite

i cant bear it

[haughty basin]

is there a mod to make it so rex’s self-damage abilities don’t cause permanent damage in e8?

[undone thunder]

or do i have to play this stage muted

[fossil wasp]

cursecatcher

[final raven]

rocket

[bronze sky]

Ravager and balanced in the same sentence is crazy

They are really fun but definitely overtuned

[worldly otter]

I mean I’d say Henry is pretty balanced. The one by timesweeper based off of the one by Rob specifically. Idk about the Henry Stickman from the animated adventure game

I keep getting a weird bug when I have the mod “E8BarrierAdjustment” where after a while all characters on the player team just stop taking damage entirely, but stuff like echos and roll of pennies will still proc. On top of that stuff like glacial explosions and overloading bombs will just go on forever

[wind wren]

Fun? Yes
Balanced? Ehh

[winter zealot]

Balance is subjective and you have configs

[ember radish]

Does anyone have any modded character suggestions?

[wind wren]

Scroll up

[compact thorn]

Is there an alternative to exponential items yet?

[winter zealot]

With now improved inventory system an alternative should come up safe and working

I haven't seen one yet

[twin wren]

Given the inherent benefit of more effects and interactions to cause, would you say that any item-adding mod is functionally op?

[winter zealot]

Personally I loathe them but balance is subjective

Oh wait

I thought you meant items that give items

Anyway I will still say that balance is subjective and most item mods have configs

[kindred moat]

Item mods have configs generally so you can make a mod balanced to your specific tastes so I think it doesn't go in either direction tbh

[twin wren]

sorry I didnt meant like identifying a particular mod as op.
I mean that using any mod that adds more items, is inherently op, simply because having a larger amount of different items, and therefor effects, is itself op, regardless of what those items are

[kindred moat]

The more items in the pool, the harder it can be to find really good items, or funnily enough build good synergies depending on what that synergy is

If you added like ten green items, icbm atg synergy would be harder to achieve due to green item pool increasing

It's all about how the items themselves are balanced to work within the game i feel

[twin wren]

It's that whole thing about "every character should have at least one of everything" because as good as it is to increase your stack of attack speed, or missles, or tri tips, getting that new item that makes your attacks have another affect they apply is more useful than increasing your stack size of anything else

[winter zealot]

Some base DLC items are overpowered themselves

[twin wren]

anyone know a mod that stops autoitempickup from grabbing drifters temp items?
Want to do the challenge for holding a lot at once and it'd be nice not to have to turn autopickup off for that run

[winter zealot]

Text the author to make a config for that and maybe they will do it

[twin wren]

a decent thought if they're the sort to respond to such things.
it occured to me to jsut hammer it out in simulacrum vanilla though

I know some mods work if only host has them, and some mods need host and friends to both have them to work properly but you can still play, the mod just won't function, but do any mods actually prevent you from playing together, needing to be disabled if you're going to play with vanilla friends?

[haughty leaf]

Personally yes. Ror2 builds are an illusion that people still believe to be real when in reality the game is just proc chain city. Most item mods don't intentionally create bad items so you'll just inherently end up with more and longer proc chaining if you add more items to the pool.

Yes it runs completely counter to the fact that item stacking is a major feature of Ror2 as a rogue-lite in particular but it also doesn't matter as all having more items in the pool ultimately hurts is the ability to get more mobility like hopoo feathers and the like but that is legitimately the only noticeable downside to having more.

You can see this exact effect in vanilla as it is now that there's three DLCs as that's practically three big item mods in the past worth of stuff 'Bloating' the item pool but I'm sure anyone can notice that their runs are actually far more consistent/stronger than they were in the past.

[urban ginkgo]

Does anybody know any mods that make Ror2 smoother on weaker Hardware (that also work online), like boosting the fps and reducing lag and stuttering

[urban ginkgo]

Can somebody answer my question? It's been 2 hours

[fossil wasp]

theres not really any performance mods

[mossy lagoon]

av effect options is client side I think. much of the lag in the game is due to math so proc solver also helps, though it does change gameplay

[urban ginkgo]

Does it work online?

Because i'm trying to play with my friend who has a weaker pc

[wind wren]

Nobody’s getting paid for this, don’t act entitled

[urban ginkgo]

Chill, i js wanted to find a way to play with my friend, nothing bad

[wind wren]

I don’t know of any mods that straight up enhance performance, besides some that cut down on ally count

Just remember, google and thunderstore are free

[quiet flint]

MyFixedUpdate is really the only thing that makes much of a difference

StutterStunter and UnholyDLL are dead, and the loading screen ones are obsolete

AVEffectOptions and ItemDisplayRemover might help, but the main way to improve performance is just play vanilla.

[quick geyser]

hia hia I'm pretty new to risk of rain and PC gaming I only really know how to download mods from the Steam page how do I get modding risk

[fossil wasp]

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

but if you are new then you should probably get used to the game and what it has to offer first

[quick geyser]

Yeah I'm more play quality of life first and then start doing the silly stuff

[quick geyser]

I'm trying to manual download it but I don't know how

[quiet flint]

dont nvm i misread, yes just click the manual download button

it'll download a zip file, just open it and install

it has directions on the website, under Installing

    Click "Manual Download" on Thunderstore.
    Inside the downloaded .zip file. Run the "r2modman Setup X.X.X.exe" (where X.X.X is the current version).
    Follow the steps in the installer.

[mystic kayak]

does the starstorm 2 primal birthright item not spawn a legendary chest on alloyed collective stages??

and if so why the fuck is it still asking for one???

yep it doesnt spawn

what a great mod this is, can flood the screen full of vfx but cant be assed to make a lunar item prevent you from getting softlocked

[fringe bramble]

if u could give us a log someone can look into it and see whats going on

but reasonably if its still asking for one there is one somewhere, mods that find chests probably just dont know what the birthright chest is

[winter zealot]

The fix will come in 6 months that will cause more problems and then the fix for the last fix will come in another 6 months

[fringe bramble]

im just trying to offer help

[winter zealot]

Alright

[fringe bramble]

from what i understand abt how birthright works it shouldnt be active if the stage is not valid for spawning the chest

and it shouldnt go the other way around where it breaks any time a stage isnt allowed to

[winter zealot]

I think it would be better if it didn't activate if the chest is missing

[fringe bramble]

thats what it does

or is supposed to do, at least

[fringe bramble]

realized i should probably ping so ur aware of this since u probably went to bed, can u send a log of the play session whenever u see this? if its too late and u already opened the game again no worries, but just going to conduit canyon w birthright should replicate it again if u wanna make a fresh log

[winter zealot]

I think it may spawn in inaccessible area

[fringe bramble]

assumedly theres a weird node somewhere, ya

[kindred moat]

There is at least one node that is like hidden in geometry you can't access on conduit iirc

[dapper sleet]

from just loading in ss2 seems to not spawn the chest on conduit (no birthright objective .,.,,. loading in regular stages like pretenders and iron alluvium seem to work fine though so probably somethings to do with it being hidden in the dlc3 path. ,.,.,,.., edit actually nvm birthright does a check for the teleporter prefab and if it cant find it then stops it from spawning a chest ,.., since conduit has a cusom teleporter doesntwork despite there being case for in the code !!

[urban ginkgo]

Just to be sure, does MyfixedUpdate, ItemDisplayRemover and AVeffectoptions work online?

[fossil wasp]

i assume host needs myfixedupdate

[hybrid coral]

Does anyone know how to fix this? It says to set the Risk of Rain 2 folder in the settings, but once I get there and click on it, I'm not sure what to do. It was working a couple of weeks ago too

[fossil wasp]

things in your computer have locations
you need to tell r2modman where your game is located

like d:/steamlibrary/steamapps/common/riskofrain2

you can get to the game folder by right clicking it in your steam library > manage > browse local files

[hybrid coral]

okay one sec

when i click manage its mark this game as private or hide this game

[fossil wasp]

yer in the wrong place

thats your profile

im guessing

right click it in your library, the place where you launch your games

[fossil wasp]

...you dont have the game installed 😭

[hybrid coral]

my hard drive diconnected and i dont know how to fix it

disconnected*

and it was having this problem before it happened

im screwed

[fossil wasp]

idk what to say about the hard drive thing

[wind wren]

That seems more pressing than modding risk of rain 2

[red whale]

Coming back to this game after multiple months - how is the mod compatibility with the new DLC? I had like 80 mods before (though this includes libraries, dependencies etc...). Do you think I will be mostly good? Or did some of you have to disable some mods due them not being compatible with the latest DLC?

[dapper sleet]

its been long enough that a high majority of mods have updated ,..,,..,, you should be good if you disable any deprecated ones you might have !!!!!!!

[quartz folio]

Yes

[mystic kayak]

i already left the game well before you pinged me because id been searching for it for 20 minutes

my only guess is that the item views the alloyed collective stages as suitable stages to spawn the legendary chest and thus adds the flag for needing to have purchased it before activating teleporter
but then doesn't know where to spawn it so it doesn't spawn it at all or spawns it in some place where it cant be reached

[gleaming lance]

This doesnt seem right but we can look into it

[mystic kayak]

i don't even use those mods. again i checked the whole stage for 20 minutes

stage was iron alluvium if youre curious

[gleaming lance]

thank you

[mystic kayak]

i even checked the places where the newt altars spawn

also sorry for getting mad but that was the first good run ive had since installing the mod so yeah

[mystic kayak]

you're on the starstorm 2 team?

could i ask for a config setting to make executioner's special ability work the way it did back in the earlier mod versions where it quickly sent you straight up and straight down and gave 1 ion charge for each enemy hit?

[gleaming lance]

that isnt possible we did a full rewrite sorry man. If it was we would offer it

[mystic kayak]

Dammit

thanks anyway

[gleaming lance]

we could offer configs to tweak the numbers of the skills

but not how the skill works

[mystic kayak]

i don't need to tweak the numbers i just prefered how more fluid it was to use as a double jump and how it more rewarded using it for crowd control than single target

kill a group of weak enemies, instantly fill m2 charges, blast away an elder lemurian

though i'd say executioner is still quite fun overall

i like the new movement tech you can do by activating special right before your utility runs out to keep the momentum going

im curious to see how nemesis commando got changed

cause i found him to be VERY hit or miss in the original versions

@gleaming lance one last thing, it was the stage nemesis commando spawned on, i don't know if that has anything to do with it but i figured its worth mentioning as many details as possible since i dont have a log available

[wind wren]

This is why we have ProperSave and Aerolt

[wind wren]

If you haven’t started another run on the same mod manager profile, you can still access it

[mystic kayak]

that was last night

i restarted my pc since then

can i still access it then?

well ill try it i guess

[mystic kayak]

and what is propersave going to do when im required to open a leg chest that doesnt exist

the whole point of propersave is that when you reload the stage its the exact same as it was when you entered it

so if i reload the stage itll be the exact same thing again

[wind wren]

Yes, it shouldn’t be overwritten as long as you haven’t launched the game again on the same profile

[wind wren]

Reloading can solve plenty of issues, or if not, at least allow you to back up your run’s save if you’re afraid of losing it

[mystic kayak]

whats the point of backing it up if its already lost to a softlock

i can try reloading the save but i know its not going to do anything

[wind wren]

It’s possible to solve these issues manually if need be

[fringe bramble]

could u send ur mod profile code as well? would help

im not on the programming side of the team but id be happy to look into it on my own time

[fringe bramble]

i believe the implication is aerolt would let you manually spawn in the primal chest, though i do feel like the chest was spawned, something just happened to it, potentially due to an incompatibility with another mod you have

going through the log i havent run across any error messages regarding birthright's chest, nor does nemmando get any items that could potentially cause problems. im somewhat thinking it may be what bread said and the chest potentially spawned in a vanilla node that is stuck underneath terrain somewhere, if it's not an incompatibility with wolfoQOL trying to do something, though i don't know what it would be

[mystic kayak]

019c4ec3-a1ad-548b-d2b0-5a992516e06e

[fringe bramble]

ty!

oh, what mod manager is this for

just asking cause first attempt to import crashed my modloader

[mystic kayak]

r2modman

@fringe bramble

[fringe bramble]

waiting for the mods to dl but i kinda already have a hunch what it was

[fringe bramble]

well it spawned in my session fine, gonna need to check other things

yea, unsure what's going on in your session then @mystic kayak

[quiet flint]

not necessarily, no

[fringe bramble]

score you are smarter than me could you take a peek at their log 🥺

[quiet flint]

what you should do is give yourself a radar scanner

i did look. i think they just might need glasses

[fringe bramble]

yea i couldnt find anything either

[mystic kayak]

wtf is happening then

i checked the entire stage for 20 minutes

[fringe bramble]

did you give yourself a radar scanner

[mystic kayak]

no because i dont use mods like taht

[fringe bramble]

i would suggest always having debugtoolkit

i think you may have genuinely just missed it

[mystic kayak]

Nope you cant gaslight me into thinking that

[fringe bramble]

the item is not written in a way where it's possible for the objective to spawn but not the chest, because the chest handles all of the code for the objective visual

[mystic kayak]

Then maybe it spawned inside a wall or on the bottom of the stage

[fringe bramble]

if the chest doesn't spawn, the objective and lockout do not occur

[mystic kayak]

Idk
But it definitely wasnt anywhere i could reach

again i even checked near the newt altar locations

[fringe bramble]

if there are any nodes on the map that are in a wall or at the bottom of the stage, then that's possible, but i think people would be a lot more aware of that happening with teleporters or chests spawning naturally in walls

they wouldnt spawn in newt locations, that's not where chests spawn

primal birthright uses standard chest spawning logic

[mystic kayak]

im just using that as a reference for that i checked literally everywhere

i had no issues finding it in any other stage

you know what im gonna hop back into that run and check again because i know what i did and did not see

but im not spending another 20 minutes

and even if it did spawn in some accessible but obscenely obscure place
maybe they should update the item to give the chest a marker or something

why is there a scavenger here now

and nemesis commando isnt here

[fringe bramble]

i would emplore you add debugtoolkit to give yourself radar scanner

[mystic kayak]

if i add another mod itll corrupt the save, no?

if not then i will

[fringe bramble]

idk i dont use proper save

but you may as well just add it to your profile

[mystic kayak]

yep theres no leg chest

i can even stream it if desired

[fringe bramble]

did you give yourself a radar scanner

again the objective isn't created unless the chest spawns

[mystic kayak]

.

[fringe bramble]

if the run is actually softlocked then it doesn't matter either way to try and see

[mystic kayak]

the only thing i can think of outside of it spawning out of bounds is that one of the buff braziers from the aetherium mod replaced the leg chest

so it technically "spawned" and set the objective

but then got replaced

but im not a modder so i have no idea if that even makes sense

[fringe bramble]

i am unsure if interactibles do that unless aetherium adds its interactibles in a very odd way

[mystic kayak]

aetherium does a lot of things in a very odd way

from a gameplay perspective anyway lol

[steep mantle]

this is only really if a mod/update adds/removes saved content
debugtoolkit shouldn’t affect anything even if it gives the warning, just allows you to enable a debug console n do things with it

[fringe bramble]

i am inclined to believe they do not interact like that as ive not seen any reports of primal being replaced like this prior

[wind wren]

Yes, unless you have the config to make a bigger save

[mystic kayak]

"give_item Scanner"
"no item with ID Scanner found"

[fringe bramble]

give_equip radar

[mystic kayak]

oh

[wind wren]

Do you have Aerolt? You can spam equipment barrels if so

Or that lol

[fringe bramble]

that sounds insane but funny

just give yourself noclip and dig around the stage

[mystic kayak]

Now thats some sincere bullshit

I know i walked past this spot 15000 fucking times

[fringe bramble]

hey man sometimes we just miss things

[mystic kayak]

well i stand by what i said earlier then

they need to give those chests a marker

[fringe bramble]

the intent of the item is it's up to you to find it if you want your guaranteed red

there are already ingame methods to get a ping for it such as radar scanner

[mystic kayak]

i thought the intent of the item was to test your money generation abilities because it costs 2.5x more than a normal legendary chest

[fringe bramble]

the intent is you made a deal so deal with the problems it gives

[mystic kayak]

its not fun to force people to search for a camoflaged needle in a mountain sized haystack

[fringe bramble]

nobody is being forced to do anything

you choose the lunars you pick up

[mystic kayak]

yes and i picked it up because i thought that if youre going to make me unable to play the game if i don't do this objective that youd be able to at least guide me in the proper direction

it could be like the teleporter where it gets a marker when you get close or ping it

[fringe bramble]

it really is not that deep

[mystic kayak]

after wasting over 20 minutes searching for one chest i cannot disagree more

good thing i have the bazaarexpand mod because im using the cleansing pool there instantly

[fringe bramble]

it's the free red item lunar in exchange for not being allowed to progress unless you get the red

[mystic kayak]

btw by marker i just mean like

[fringe bramble]

you made a simple mistake there is no need to start blaming it on the item design for the item you chose to pick up

[mystic kayak]

the markers that teleporter bosses have

where its a faint dot when youre looking at it

[mystic kayak]

ah yes its my fault the item's intent wasn't conveyed clearly enough
whatever dude

[fringe bramble]

you can suggest that in the feedback channels for the starstorm 2 discord instead of saying the programmer can't be assed to prevent you from softlocking yourself from not looking hard enough

just a suggestion

[mystic kayak]

"not looking hard enough"
Yeah fuck off

[fringe bramble]

🤷

you control the lunars you use

[brisk tree]

the item's point is that you have to find and open it

[mystic kayak]

if i ever run into a starstorm dev here though ill suggest it

[fringe bramble]

erm

[steep mantle]

This is the exact intended consequence of the item lol

[brisk tree]

hi

and yeah, that's basically the point

red items are strong, honestly the item is probably too good, in most cases

rarely you'll struggle to find it and that's part of the balancing factor

[mystic kayak]

it costs like double that of a normal legendary chest and you don't even know where it is

i mean i guess with sale star yeah

[brisk tree]

yeah it's a guaranteed red every stage, it should cost time

lest you start outscaling the game particularlly hard

[mystic kayak]

well regardless of its strength its just not fun to be forced to search for it so im never taking it again
lesson learned i guess

[brisk tree]

yea fair that's part of the tradeoff

[mystic kayak]

not a single lunar item added by this mod i've liked so far

[brisk tree]

and that's fine, i like em and i know othersd do

[mystic kayak]

though i do like the idea of the relic of termination

[brisk tree]

maybe it could get highlighted after a while but i wouldn't highlight it before like minimum 5mins

[mystic kayak]

im just not a fan of how easily abuseable that item is

[mystic kayak]

that would be fair yes

[brisk tree]

been thinking about termination balance yeah it's gonna get nerfed a bit in the future

[fringe bramble]

chest explodes and it goes "boowomp" after 15-20 minutes

[mystic kayak]

still keep the item's identity intact but prevent situations like this where its like literally impossible to find because it blends in perfectly with the terrain

[mystic kayak]

just make it not work in hidden realms

[regal schooner]

This is very funny given how much flak the SS2 team has gotten about Primal Birthright being too free to say the lunar has any actual downside. Guaranteed red.... but you have to get the red!

[kindred moat]

Birthright is a lunar i personally heavily disagree with, but also I can choose not to use it which is why i have it disabled! There's honestly a lot of starstorm items I have disabled since I don't vibe with them, but like isn't that the whole point of a configurable mod?

Birthright is stupid powerful but at the same time that's a lot of lunars so like idk

[fringe bramble]

unlimited reds, but no reds

[regal schooner]

I keep Birthright and Termination disabled for being too free/easily game-winning, yeah.

[fringe bramble]

free item friday

[mystic kayak]

i can see it being too strong because of sale star specifically yes

i just took it because it sounded fun.
It wasn't.

[fringe bramble]

even before sale star it's just obnoxiously powerful

[regal schooner]

That... doesn't do anything for just hanging around harvesting Termi drops in normal stages, which completely outpaces scaling if you're even scared of the timer in the first place.

[kindred moat]

I need to try and re enable wayfarer yellow and hope it doesn't bsod my pc again 😭

[mystic kayak]

Didn't know that

I only picked it up once, saw it worked when i went into gilded coast, and then threw it in a cleansing pool instantly

[kindred moat]

I believe i didn't like the item a lot, so i disabled it, then much pater realized having the yellow disabled means the boss will sometimes not drop an item at all, so i re enabled it, launched the game, and bsod happened 😭

[regal schooner]

The only design I've seen use the scaling timer in an actually threatening way is Sandswept's Hallowed Ichor. Time scaling just isn't anywhere near as big a deal as people like to treat it as.

[kindred moat]

Time matters, but only to an extent

[fringe bramble]

birthright should triple the time scaling until you open the chest i think

[mystic kayak]

oh the chest doesnt spawn on conduit canyon

interesting

[fringe bramble]

conduit's not a standard stage so that makes sense

[regal schooner]

That would be closer to a real downside. I kind of like this idea.

[fringe bramble]

birthright chest will not spawn in stages like hidden realms

[kindred moat]

I feel like conduit is a weird gray area being like a normal stage having a teleporter but it's also got distinct differences that make it dissimilar from normal stage 4s too

[mystic kayak]

what just happened

[brisk tree]

thoughts on this potential nerf for termination? i was thinking every single terminal enemy per wstage gets a bit stronger

[mystic kayak]

i saw a boss hp bar appear, saw a beam of light, and then i got an achievement

[fringe bramble]

empyrean elite spawned but the director gave the elite affix to a wisp or a beetle

[regal schooner]

Like, just flat out the marked guy is buffed per stage, or would this be buffing the timed-out state?

[fringe bramble]

per stage is funnier 🗣️

[brisk tree]

marked

so like guy 1 is as it s currently, guy 2 gets stat bonus x1, guy 3 gets stat bonus x2, etc

[kindred moat]

The idea that termination permanently buffs the enemy even after 30 seconds sounds really funny

[mystic kayak]

what do empyrean elites do? are they like blighted elites from ror1?

[brisk tree]

resets on new stage

[regal schooner]

Ohhhhh yeah I do like that, every marked guy you kill in a stage makes the next one stronger, punishing farming them. Might need to tinker with the timers so Relic of Termination doesn't become too tight of an indirect stage timer because of this, but yeah. Make the jump in strength pretty noticeable, too, so it stops being worth farming pretty quickly without a god run.

[brisk tree]

yeah

[crisp night]

the day we get new chirr content is the day i go “yay new chirr content”

[regal schooner]

They get every elite effect from a whitelist, by default it's all the vanilla Tier 1s.

[kindred moat]

Ohhh that's what you meant- I thought you meant the buffs were permanent on each enemy even after it times out

[brisk tree]

they actually are i think

[kindred moat]

That's awesome

[brisk tree]

it just doesn't spawn a new guy until you kill the marked guy

[mystic kayak]

vanilla as in no dlc's included i assume?

[brisk tree]

which maybe it should

[kindred moat]

That was my thought, it keeps spawning them, but only the most recent drops an item

[brisk tree]

also a funny angle for a nerf yea

though iwthout more terminal scaling it wouldn't do too ,much i think

[regal schooner]

Default affixes it uses.

[fringe bramble]

purple ..........

[regal schooner]

The affixes I currently have it configured to use.

[kindred moat]

I wonder how both of those ideas would work combined, sounds hilarious them getting stronger each one and them keep spawning

I would take a lunar that mean and hateful towards me

[brisk tree]

would probably only count killed ones to the strength of nexzt

[kindred moat]

Probably yeah

[fringe bramble]

aragonites... im sorry you do this to yourself..

[regal schooner]

I'm waiting for Aetherium's next update to reenable Sanguines and add those to the whitelist too : )

[kindred moat]

I should edit the whitelist in my modpack- the idea of having the deltarune mod's elite in that sounds psychopathic- (it gives them three random buffs, which can be stuff like tonic, or even shrine of shaping's extra life)

oh wait no it's two but i have the config to be three like it used to be

[regal schooner]

Yeah, selectively making Empyreans much scarier without fully resurrecting their on-release Uses Every Elite Def Loaded In The Game hell mode is pretty fun.

[mystic kayak]

if that happens im disabling sanguine elites entirely

i dislike them enough as it is

[kindred moat]

you'd have to go in the whitelist and add them to empyreans manually so that I don't think is a problem

[regal schooner]

If what happens? I'm adding them to the whitelist in my configuration. For myself. On my profile.

[mystic kayak]

purple?

[kindred moat]

i assume voidtouched?

i can't think of another purple elite

[mystic kayak]

weird that gilded isnt in there too then

[fringe bramble]

gilded is not a tier 1, it is technically its own tier

[fringe bramble]

purple is poison elites iirc

[kindred moat]

poison is malachite, right?

[regal schooner]

Nah, like poison/toxic from the SS2 beta, not Poison as in the internal name for malachite.

Yes it's confusing.

[kindred moat]

gotcha gotcha

[mystic kayak]

so it effectively means nothing then because i dont recall seeing any poison elites nowadays

right?

[fringe bramble]

you probably have the beta disabled

poison elites are only in the beta config

along with a handful of beta survivors and items, and a storm rework

[mystic kayak]

oh

[regal schooner]

Yup

[mystic kayak]

by beta i thought you meant like

it existed in an early version and got scrapped later

that makes more sense

[fringe bramble]

no, there's a beta config you can turn on in your mod manager

[regal schooner]

Nah, there's a beta of a future release that you can currently turn on in configs.

[mystic kayak]

i dont think ill mess with that

prob better for me and my nonexistant amount of patience to wait for finished content

[fringe bramble]

this is where i would shill my animation work

[mystic kayak]

is the relic of force good on anyone

it seems questionable

[regal schooner]

Yeah, some the beta content is still a bit rough rn. Some cool stuff in there, but it's in a beta preview mode for a reason.

[fringe bramble]

most people i think it's good on

[regal schooner]

Yeah on.

It's pretty strong, but will absolutely feel like ass to pick up too early if you didn't already have a little attackspeed to mitigate with.

[wind wren]

StarstormSquared makes it even better lowkey

Scav trader is the only thing i’ve really had issues with, besides the ethereal sapling entirely replacing the newt altar spawning on certain stages

[regal schooner]

My personal issues with the storms and Ethereal difficulty all just boil down to their mechanical/stats effects all being balanced pretty rigidly around Typhoon, whereas I play almost exclusively on Inferno, so Stormborn enemies are completely out of control in my setup.

[wind wren]

Valid

[regal schooner]

The deafening racket a Stormborn Clay Templar makes on Inferno is sure something.

[mystic kayak]

whats ethereal difficulty

oh hey i finally got shart's logbook

who's this pokemon-lookin' goober

she must be pretty new since she has 0 alts whatsoever

[teal badger]

chirr mention

thats goat right there.

[wind wren]

Ss2 beta, a bit complicated but basically it ups the difficulty mid run and adds a new elite

[regal schooner]

Not all that new, no.

[mystic kayak]

is there gonna be nemesis versions of every survivor

i remember hearing that once but it sounds like an utterly insane amount of work

(and imma level with you idk how youd make nemesis versions of any of the DLC characters when a lot of them already feel like nemesis survivors)

does getting a lysate cell on chirr let you have more allies

or is it a hard set limit of 1

[regal schooner]

This is who all SS1 had for nemeses, couldn't tell you anything for sure about who all will get one in SS2. Modders are also free to do their own if they want to, Amp has a NemAmp in the mod.

[mystic kayak]

yea i know about mods doing their own nemesis survivors

nemesis enforcer being heavy tf2 with a hammer
and nemesis amp being my literal favourite survivor ever

btw

the nemesis survivor bosses are way too overpowered

it genuinely feels like it was not playtested at all

they kill you in 2 hits with their most basic attacks and yet have more hp on stage 3 than mithrix has on stage 5?

and both of them have literal instakill nukes

theres only two ways to beat them

1: cheese (takes 15 minutes)
2: instakill them before they instakill you (very unlikely unless you're post-loop)

neither of which are even remotely satisfying or fun

i get that their drops are very strong but if thats the reason for them being so overtuned it feels like a 10 year old balanced them then maybe they should both get nerfed

i dont care as much about that though since you dont really need to fight them once youve beaten them once

but its worth noting

also i dont think chirr is very fun to play personally. i feel like she needs alt abilities

neat idea i just personally dont like it

oh great and half of nemmerc's kit isnt even functional

fantastic

sure has been awhile since ive played a modded survivor so bad it got me killed on stage 1

i like the idea of his gameplay loop but nothing works consistently

i dont know if im just being stupid or if theres like 10 hidden mechanics the mod doesnt explain

or if somethings just broken

[quiet flint]

sounds broken

post log in modcord tech support channel. link in pins

[mystic kayak]

im not playing whack a mole with a character i dont like just to make them slightly less shit

[quiet flint]

what are you on about

[mystic kayak]

either everyone's going to say that its workly perfectly and that i just suck at the character (even though the character just sucks) or theyll look through the log, not be able to figure anything out, and make me try 15 billion different things to try and narrow down to cause before just giving up and saying well you must just suck

ive been through this before

its not worth my time

[quiet flint]

who is everyone

im offering help, not everyone is offering help

[fringe bramble]

my dude is this in reference to specifically me and you just missing a single chest on a map...

i explicitly said im not an expert on it so i may miss something in the log if there was something wrong. evidently, there was not something wrong, you just did not see the chest

[quiet flint]

its fine they dont want help. just leave it.

[fringe bramble]

if nemmerc is actually not functioning correctly there will likely be a null reference exception or some other kind of error being thrown somewhere in the log. nemmerc is not bug-free, there has been a history of issues with his teleport sending you to the origin point of the map that orb has struggled to narrow down in the past

weh

[mystic kayak]

what no

im talking about other problems i've had with game mods in the past

like is it normal for his attack vectors to spawn 50 meters behind you or 50 meters straight upward or behind a wall

is it normal for me to be looking straight at my attack vector, press the utility key, and then teleport to a random ass beetle behind me that i couldnt even see instead of the attack vector

is it normal for me, when using the alt utility, to dash straight through an attack vector without it activating

is it normal when using the default secondary to overshoot a target and end up attacking the air behind them

i feel like if his playstyle is going to be this obtuse his damage output needs to be way way higher

[fringe bramble]

if there are no enemies nearby, it will generate a random one somewhere nearby so you still have something to warp to if you want to for any given reason

[mystic kayak]

cause this feels like having to pass a rocket science exam just to graduate high school

[mystic kayak]

nope it was while enemies were nearby

[fringe bramble]

this sounds like ror2 reticle funkiness but ive not personally experienced this, however i prefer to use the alterante utility so that may be on me

yeah im thinking you have a mod incompatibility somewhere

it will select a handful of nearby enemies as targets

[mystic kayak]

i know that but it will then put them behind walls

[fringe bramble]

the lack of them functioning correctly in multiple of these questions should give you an idea that the answer is no

[mystic kayak]

walls near that enemy

so then i just cant use them

[fringe bramble]

im like 90% sure they're meant to be placed nearby or on nodes that enemies can reach

so again. you may have a mod incompatibility with one of your other mods

of which a log would be beneficial to send to the tech support channel in modcord

[mystic kayak]

Well the only other mod i have that id even consider uninstalling because of mod incompatibility is aetherium

I dont like this survivor anyway so why would i disable a mod i actually do like just to make him slightly less shit

[fringe bramble]

that would only help if aetherium was actually the one conflicting with starstorm

[mystic kayak]

exactly

why even bother then

[fringe bramble]

i. think this does not provide the resolute statement you are expecting it to

if you're not interested in doing the 50/50 method i would simply try disabling gunslinger first of anything, as that mod adds a plethora of seemingly random things that could possibly conflict, and has had a history of not cooperating with ss2

[mystic kayak]

but i like gunslinger 😒 a lot more than nemmerc

[fringe bramble]

nemmerc is like one of my most used characters in my recent play sessions, so i can totally see some of these things happening while other things i do not see happening whatsoever just with ss2 by itself, or with other mods i use with it

idk what to tell you man. either your mods are clashing or you have inhuman bad luck with unity code

if mods are conflicting with some character you dont care about, it can totally be also conflicting with something you absolutely do care about

[mystic kayak]

one thing i will say though, bug related or not

[fringe bramble]

i would have suggested wolfoQOL could have been the culprit if somehow primal birthright was softlocking a run, as i've personally run into issues with wolfoQOL getting an incompatibility with another mod, and subsequently softlocking interacting with things like the heat vents in solus wing

[mystic kayak]

i feel like he should have a passive double jump like normal merc

[fringe bramble]

he can impulse his momentum in air with his shotgun

[mystic kayak]

ok well its working better now on stage 2 (ive been mostly restarting stage 1 just trying to experiment with him)

maybe because it was aphelian sanctuary so the tp was on flat ground

idk anymore lol

[fringe bramble]

my preferred playstyle with him is to use his alt m2 and alt utility with his default special, so i could totally believe the default utility feels really weird to use

or has odd behaviors with the targeting reticle, since huntress also has similar problems in vanilla game

[mystic kayak]

im using his alt utility rn i definitely think its more consistent

but then it makes the problem of the special acting stupid worse

cause i cant just press a button to instantly teleport to the vectors

but as the saying goes pick your poison

[fringe bramble]

i would disagree, you trade a free teleport button with way more flexibility with movement and get to double dip multiple dashes out of a singular vector

[mystic kayak]

what is his alt secondary?

[fringe bramble]

eg use the slide to reposition, dash through an enemy into a vector to damage them, then dash backwards to hit them again with the vector

[mystic kayak]

yea ive been doing that

[fringe bramble]

his alt secondary is a thrown knife, if it hits an enemy it will explode when you pick it up

though i also use the default m2

[mystic kayak]

that sounds very useful cause my biggest problem rn is flying enemies

hence why i said id like if he had a double jump

[fringe bramble]

his shotgun does plenty of damage imo

default m2 with alt util gives a lot of flexibility in bouncing between flying enemies

[mystic kayak]

only if youre in their face because its spread is horrible

and if youre in the air and shoot downward then the recoil makes you take more fall damage

as per usual its mainly blind pests that are pissing me off

[fringe bramble]

then you could dash up with either util, shoot once (as that will often do more than plenty damage to oneshot early stage flying enemies), then m2 to reposition or kill the next target, and release mouse1 to shoot again on another target

[mystic kayak]

is there config to change how m1 fires

[fringe bramble]

no, that's by design

[mystic kayak]

holding m1 to not fire feels horrible

[fringe bramble]

with how fast the shotgun bursts it's to allow you to have control between firing once or twice while also intermixing other skills

it's not for everyone, but not every survivor is going to be for everyone

[mystic kayak]

or i can control whether i want to fire once or twice by clicking either once or twice

[fringe bramble]

it is simply how it was chosen to be designed

when you get used to it it's very comfy

using the shotgun less like an m1 autoattack and more like another skill in your rotation

[mystic kayak]

there is nothing wrong with making a character more approachable and i doubt itd even be that hard

[fringe bramble]

well you do not seem to be in any particular rush to post the suggestions you have in feedback, so im inclined to believe you're not planning on it

[mystic kayak]

what, like artificer?

[fringe bramble]

yes! exactly

[mystic kayak]

but artificer is click to shoot once too...?

im confused

[fringe bramble]

i meant in terms of its place in the kit

[mystic kayak]

I don't really see it unfortunately

[fringe bramble]

not for everyone

he's a very particular weird character that satisfies a very particular kind of flow state

[mystic kayak]

however

it would be unfair to give my overall opinions on him before i unlock his alts so

i will do that

[fringe bramble]

i think you should give him a solid full run to see how it feels

[mystic kayak]

i am

[fringe bramble]

i also get caught up in stage 1 testing of a character without things clicking into place

[mystic kayak]

im on stage 3 cause ive been spending more time talking than playing

one more thing i will say i dont like

the slide's distance increases with movement speed but the follow up dash doesnt seem to

so all it takes is 1 faraday spur and then using it becomes annoying

[fringe bramble]

oh it does just scale very oddly. i would also like it to be tweaked

weird movement scaling is unfortunately shared between both mercenaries

[mystic kayak]

aside from that ill asy he feels a lot better to use with more movement speed

because i can just use my secondary to reach my attack vectors

maybe im finally starting to figure it out https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/m6m2ZxEDln42wUsEt?invite=cr-MSxXSGMsMzg1MjQ0MTcy&v=0

despite that im still not exactly having a blast

[mystic kayak]

wh

empyrean elites can drop elite aspects?

[regal schooner]

Yeah.

[mystic kayak]

i wouldve thought they'd have their own elite aspect but nope they can just drop all of em

[regal schooner]

Technically also have one of their own but I don't know if there's anything special with the rarity for it to drop or w/e.

[mystic kayak]

also i got a duplicator drone

so now i just need to curbstomp nemmando and then ill have nemmercs alts all unlocked

but hes being a scared little bitch and doesnt wanna appear 😒

ah he was waiting for the void family event, how fitting

didnt stop him from getting one shot though

[twilit oyster]

Has anyone been experiencing a severe lack of mods on r2modman as of late , I can only seem to get 1 page of mods up

And they aren’t necessarily good kids or characters like the ones I’m looking for

[regal schooner]

Sounds like you've got something screwy with you search filters.

[twilit oyster]

Should I delete and re install

[fringe bramble]

they arent meant to drop it i believe, its just internal

[regal schooner]

ZetAspects makes it real, that much I know.

[fringe bramble]

yea thats how people usually end up getting it

[mighty marsh]

no just change the search filters

[mystic kayak]

ok im thinking ill probably run full alt kit for nemmerc

his default is stronger but its so dumb to use that i dont really care

[fossil wasp]

default what

because i think the alts are nuts

[wind wren]

I think his default kit feels really cool to use

You just have to play around the special

Makes me feel like I can use projection sorcery

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-naoya-naoya-jjk-naoya-zenin-gif-2605160071378746474

[dapper sleet]

nemmerc is really one of those where it either clicks so hard or bwuh ,.,,.,,.,., find mostly alt kit really funs ,.,.,.,....,.,,..,

[fossil wasp]

i think the best kits are either full default or full alt

[dapper sleet]

im keeps the regular secondary because nothing can ever make me hate you cutthroat ,.,..,,

[mystic kayak]

default special

i get what theyre trying to go for wit hit and being able to hit enemies with 4 hits of 1200% damage is crazy

but it feels so obtuse to use

its basically just blinding assault with extra steps and more damage

also i failed to notice this earlier but the way it screws with your camera when it auto targets an enemy really does not sit well with me

love when i try to aim at a blind pest harrassing me but my camera forces itself downward to target a harmless beetle, so i quickly try to swipe my camera back upwards but then i undershoot and end up hitting nothing

[wind wren]

Hiii icebro

[dapper sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240174255833088081.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=uppies&animated=true

[fringe bramble]

the vector shows what enemy you will be pointed towards before you teleport to them, you can ignore the camera reorienting entirely by manually entering it or by teleporting to it with the alt util

[lofty wolf]

ayo what are some good mods for performance and optimization

i’m running w a pretty bad computer

[mystic kayak]

Manually entering it isnt possible 90% of the time because they spawn in the air (without alt utility anyway)
and yes I know the alt utility ignores it but then the 2nd dash ends up getting wasted because of that
So when I want it to automatically target something it doesn't; and when I don't, it does.

Like I said it's like you took blinding assault and said

Hmm this isn't complex enough how can we force more complexity out of this

Without asking why

Its not a big deal though because I like the alt special

Shadow clone jutsu is cool

[floral dragon]

Is there a way to reduce quality chest spawns?

through another mod or smth, cuz the quality mod's configs only allow to reduce quality item chances outside of quality chests

[mystic kayak]

nemmando has received quite the upgrade since i previously played the mod i see

he doesnt suck ass until you get a hopoo feather now

or at least thats what i think the problem with him was

it was several years ago so hard to remember lol

i just remember him having SOME glaring issue that isnt there now

[wind wren]

Do you really need a reason to create a higher skill ceiling for an alternate version of a character?

I obviously like base Merc, but blinding assault is basically “press this button three times to be invincible for 10 seconds”

Not really very interactive or interesting

[cerulean quiver]

anyone experienced ShareSuite (or another mod, ShareSuite is just my first guess) causing Halcyon Shrines not to sap money?

[wind wren]

Send log

[cerulean quiver]

where do I find logs?

ah never mind, I see it

this happened yesterday, so I assume it has been overwritten by now. I'll have to try to recreate it after this run

[wind wren]

Have you launched another session using the same mod profile since?

[cerulean quiver]

actually no

wait I might have accidentally booted it up on that profile earlier

[white garnet]

So I'm playing with aeros skills. Is there a way to modify the files to unlock everything?

[mystic kayak]

i use focused assault for that reason
Also you can cancel blinding assualt with m2 just an fyi

[wind wren]

Use RealerCheatUnlocks and right click them

[mystic kayak]

also i would say it raises the skill floor instead of the skill ceiling which is already quite high compared to other survivors with base merc

[wind wren]

Well if you didn’t, it’s still there

[mystic kayak]

but i understand why one would view it differently

[wind wren]

Worth at least checking tbh

[mystic kayak]

i just think its needlessly obtuse personally

[cerulean quiver]

yeah I just checked, looks like it's from this morning when I accidentally started on that profile. I'll have to recreate it later

[wind wren]

Dang

[white garnet]

Got it. Thanks!

[mystic kayak]

ive unlocked nemmandos alt abilities

doing a run using them

im thinking im gonna use his default secondary and alt special

alt secondary feels rather wimpy for what it does compared to his default 8 round pistol

maybe if it applied multiple stacks of gouge id be more interested in it

but its basically just a ranged version of his m1 slash with a 5s cooldown and about 2x the base damage

i guess the alt is better with backup mags but not every survivor needs to be good with backup mags

[wind wren]

What if you
Wanted to go to heaven
But Thunderstore said
THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS”, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

[haughty leaf]

It's been so fucking funny watching the history of nemmandos secondaries. For the longest time there was no reason to use Gun m2 over Sword m2. There's just no winning when it comes to making them actually viable alternatives to each other without just overshadowing the other one lol

[quiet flint]

Hot take: alt skills don’t need to be strict sidegrades

Offering a unique play style is the only goal relative to the alternatives, and beyond that it just needs to be fun/viable

[mystic kayak]

Yea i remember that

[mystic kayak]

Can't agree with that because then you get the braindead elitists mocking you for using phase round, bubble shield, hh-99 scope, etc

If youre going to add an alternative playstyle for a character you shouldn't be punished for wanting to play it

[haughty leaf]

I literally just got a mod that ups phase rounds damage alittle and gives it mini zaps on stuff it passes by. Instantly made it a viable alt to the shotgun

[mystic kayak]

Melee acrid is super fun but you get fucked over so hard without a hopoo feather I can't do it

I would prefer if that wasn't the case

Flamethrower is artificer most fun ability imo but I am forced to take ion surge if I don't plan to loop

And ion surge is so fucking boring

Oh no a lemurian is shooting at me time to fly into the sky box so they can't hit me
What? I can't hit them either? Who cares

[mystic kayak]

My only idea would be to lean more into the sword m2 being burst damage whereas gun m2 serves as a second m1

Cause the sword m2 let's nemmando use bands which is nice

But it's only 400% damage

So maybe up the cooldown but crank up it's damage to like 800% and make it apply multiple stacks of gouge?

That way if you really hate small flying enemies or groups of ranged mobs in general you can use the gun to consistently deal with them but if you just want raw damage you can run the sword

Could also make the sword beam a chargeable ability like void fiends secondary

[haughty leaf]

Funny you mention that. It's actually been a charged ability for a part of it's life

It went from instant to charged back to instant lol

[wind wren]

HIFU's tweaks fix a lot of the unmodded survivors having objectively worse skills

And I forget which mod it is, but I have one that changes ion surge to be more like a glide with an explosion at the end

[mystic kayak]

Artificer expanded

I have that mod installed (but I have like 90% of the abilities disabled)

I like that it gives artificer basically 3 extra subclasses

I pretty much only play the ice subclass though because the fire one is broken op and the lightning one is super underwhelming

[mystic kayak]

Weird

Well yeah I say just increase the cd damage and gouge stacks

[mystic kayak]

As weird as it sounds I generally am not a fan of rebalancing mods

Quality of life improvements and bug fixes? Absolutely

Outright changing how an ability functions, buffing or nerfing them? Not really

I can't even really explain why, it just feels wrong

Like I'm tampering with something that shouldn't be tampered with (even if it does, in fact, need tampering)

[strong quail]

life is good

[pine dome]

maybe a weird question, but does anyone know why I have the Starstorm survivors showing up in the character selection screen twice?

the models and ability icons are slightly different, but they're the same survivors essentially

[regal schooner]

You have both SS2 and SS2U installed but without SS2U configured to hide overlapping content, probably.

[primal grove]

hey chat is there a mod that adds something like a randomizer button for artifact of command?
bc i love playing with my friend but i kidna despise artifact of command and prefer random items, is there any mods that just have it as a setting where it autopicks a random item/adds a random item button?

[fossil wasp]

not that i know of so get your friend to consider turning off command

[pine dome]

i thought of that, but when I look up "starstorm" on the modman in my installed mods section, I only get Starstorm 2

[haughty leaf]

SS2U is called VideoGameMod2

[pine dome]

yeah, i think that's it

thanks

[haughty leaf]

Config name should be findable looking for ChirrLover in the mod manager as well

[wind wren]

I use commandqueue, close my eyes, and click randomly

[zealous crater]

whats a good mod manager for ror2? I know thunderstore has one but is there a better one?

also will mods disable achivements?

[gray barn]

Either galemodmanager or r2modman

[zealous crater]

awesome thanks

Any recomendations for qol mods? dont want anything that will change the core game just like little qol stuff

[fringe bramble]

nuxlar has a modpack i think called the essentials that’s just fixes and minor QOL

[balmy turret]

hello i was wondering if there is a way to completely remove the red border on the screen when taking damage?

[hollow wyvern]

what mod is that

I NEED a banish system in my life

[hollow wyvern]

r2modman is better imo

[wind wren]

https://thunderstore.io/package/acanthic/Suppression/

Pretty sure

[fossil wasp]

theres no debate

its just better lol

[hollow wyvern]

ah ok lol

[fossil wasp]

tsmm is just r2modman but with ads and requires overwolf

[regal schooner]

Yup. The only debate to be had is between r2mm and Gale, tsmm is just strictly worse r2mm.

[hollow wyvern]

ew, I didn’t know it requires overwolf

[strong quail]

'powered by overwolf' is code for "Do not install this program"

[haughty leaf]

The overwolf part is basically just for the Ad it serves in the client afaik

[lusty drift]

Is there an autosprint mod that works properly with Drifter? Her abilities cancel if she starts dashing, so RTAutoSprintEX is constantly canceling if I try to use an ability while moving.

[vocal ginkgo]

try https://thunderstore.io/c/riskofrain2/p/score/AutoSprint/

[mental hill]

would it be frowned upon if i made a mod that lets the player play as a dlc item (best buddy, alloyed collective) but not require the dlc to be used

[fossil wasp]

feel like gearbox is the bigger thing to fear

but i havent seen them mess with mods

though thats probably because no one really makes dlc mods that dont require dlcs

[winter zealot]

dlc bodies have a component that does not allow you to play them if you do not have the correct entitlement

Well you can just remove it

[mental hill]

ohh interesting

yeah no I didn't think the dlc NPCs would have that which is why i asked

[winter zealot]

All dlc bodies have that, including survivor bodies