ror2-modding

[urban flame]

what happens when current patch gets updated and my downpatch version of game gets force updated

[haughty leaf]

Work smarter, not harder 😛

[urban flame]

or is that avoidable if I do what you described

[haughty leaf]

Keep a backup

[urban flame]

backup the downpatch files you mean yea?

[haughty leaf]

Though ideally if we get a patch that means seekers is working atleast 😛

Yeah

[urban flame]

Idk I think it might take them 6 months of multiple patches before things are back to how they used to be hah

[slim chasm]

the depot is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content\app_632360\depot_632361, if the game gets updated then you can just copy and paste the depot back into the risk of rain 2 folder after you update.

[haughty leaf]

I don''t think it's going to be nearly that long

[urban flame]

Oh right good call, I forgot about that haha

[urban flame]

I wish I could share your optimism, I will remain cautiously pessimistic and be happy to be proven wrong

[balmy crater]

what happened to starstorm 2? (im not caught up to whatever the hell's happening)

[haughty leaf]

3 days it took to solve the xbox situation, Be reserved but don't join the endtimes just yet 😛

[slim chasm]

it's deprecated, if you downpatch to devotion update you can use it.

[haughty leaf]

Deprecated cause people kept asking why it wasn't working on seekers. Devs are updating

[urban flame]

🫡

[balmy crater]

wait so the game just updated automatically even tho i didn't buy the dlc (is that how it works i genuinely do not know)

[torn surge]

Is there a mod to save progress other than ProperSave? ProperSave makes the players Q skill disappear and doesn't give the secondary player their items back

[slim chasm]

yeah the game was updated when the dlc released.

[haughty leaf]

yes, everyone always has the content regardless cause of MP

[haughty leaf]

No, likely needs propersave to update proper ( 🙂 ) for seekers

[balmy crater]

dang gotta downpatch, thx btw

[slim chasm]

if you want to downpatch then just look at the pinned message, I made a tutorial.

[balmy crater]

oh thanks

[peak temple]

i cant believe that risk of rain 2 modding made me sick

[torn surge]

would it work if i downpatch

[slim chasm]

yes.

[haughty leaf]

Very much so

[torn surge]

Well then I'll try doing so

[urban flame]

does proper save even have any dependents or is it just its own thing

[haughty leaf]

Mostly it's own thing

[slim chasm]

it has 5 dependencies
bbepis-BepInExPack
RiskofThunder-RoR2BepInExPack
RiskofThunder-FixPluginTypesSerialization
RiskofThunder-BepInEx_GUI
RiskofThunder-HookGenPatcher

[haughty leaf]

So the typical "I want to use mods in ror"" set 😛

[slim chasm]

yeah

[slim chasm]

if you need the dependencies on devotion update version then just get the profile code from the pinned message.

[fast scaffold]

i was editing a text file the one that maneges evreything and it delete my save data is there any way to get it back anf if not ad evreything back to my account

[urban flame]

Can I load that profile code into thunderstore mod manager or does that only work with r2modman

[slim chasm]

they're both the same thing so yes.

[urban flame]

clutch

[slim chasm]

control-z

[urban flame]

thanks for that and for the multiplayer help

[slim chasm]

no problem!!

[haughty leaf]

Not entirely true. Both mod managers have had trouble parsing each others codes for awhile now

[torn surge]

hey leviathan I'm asking you since you wrote the downpatch guide, Game process removed: AppID 632360 ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Risk of Rain 2\Risk of Rain 2.exe" --doorstop-enabled true --doorstop-target-assembly C:\Users\alika\AppData\Roaming\r2modmanPlus-local\RiskOfRain2\profiles\mods\BepInEx\core\BepI does this mean it has downloaded?

[haughty leaf]

Mainly cause TMM has a weird way of generating it's codes that make r2mm not understand it internally

[slim chasm]

if it's too late to do control-z then just get the RealerCheatUnlocks and right click all of the things you had unlocked, it's the only thing you really can do at that point.

[fast scaffold]

it did not work nothing changed

[fast scaffold]

ok

[slim chasm]

idk I just imported a code my friend sent from TMM into r2mm and it worked so I assumed they're the same.

[haughty leaf]

Maybe it finally got fixed then cause it was a huge issue for ages

Constant "EXT: header not found" red boxes on people in tech support lol

[slim chasm]

it will say "Depot download complete (and then file path)" when it's finished.

[torn surge]

alright thanks

[haughty leaf]

Though I will add. That mod profile code will eventually expire

Ideally an export as file works better as that can't expire

[slim chasm]

alright, I'll do that.

[torn surge]

Do I have to do anything after completing your guide to play modded multiplayer? I have minor mods like propersave and dropinmultiplayer

[slim chasm]

just send your profile to your friends so you all have the same mods and then you all should be able to play modded multiplayer together as long as everyone is on the same version.

[haughty leaf]

As long as everyone is playing on the same version of the game then it's your typical MP rules

[slim chasm]

here's the dependencies file, I'll link this in my pinned message if I even have enough characters left.

[slim chasm]

I had just enough characters

[haughty leaf]

The good ending

[slim chasm]

if I need to add anything else to the pinned message I'll just make an FAQ message and link it in the pinned one so I can have more characters.

[spring folio]

is modding dead rn?

[slim chasm]

nope, it's not dead.

[spring folio]

good good

what's with all the fps tied stuff?

[slim chasm]

gearbox rewrote a bunch of code and it made everything become tied to your fps.

[vapid elm]

Forgive me but I had another question about downpatching and modding. Is it possible to do multiplayer at all with this version and with mods? I assume they need to downpatch as well, but I understand if there's like a conflict when playing an older version.

[jade prairie]

any alternative to scrollable ui mod that actually allows me to scroll the ui or just be able to select my extra characters

[slim chasm]

it's fine! ask as many questions as you want! multiplayer works without mods on a downpatched version so it probably works with mods as well if everyone has the same mod versions.

[vapid elm]

I see. Thank you once again for the help.

[jade prairie]

@vestal aurora hello, you are the author of the xsplitscreen mod right?

Are there any plans on an update?

[slim chasm]

if you don't know how to send your mod profile to your friends to all have the same mod versions: go into your profile, go to "settings", go to the "profile" tab, and click "export profile as code", and then your friends can import the profile with the code.

[jade prairie]

I wonder if gbx improved upon it by also having it officially on console

[jade prairie]

?

Not at the moment i believe

[steel wren]

can someone send me the mods that adds more unlockables

[fast scaffold]

thank you so much

[slim chasm]

no problem!!

[whole ether]

has anyone made a modpack for all the fixes needed or there's just one big mod?

[fossil wasp]

"all"
lol its been only like 5 days dude

[zenith sentinel]

why if i add the downpatched ror2 as a non steam game, r2modman just select the original game?

[whole ether]

yeah i know, like some of them at least

[sand widget]

Yo, really recommend this mod

[slim chasm]

I have no idea, but I'd recommend just moving everything out of the risk of rain 2 directory and putting the depot files in.

[sand widget]

Is a new Survivor, the animations are smooth as hell and gameplay is cool

I said "new" as whats the mod for. But yeah, really creative character

[coarse folio]

Any other character mods that work rn?

[sand widget]

Most of them are busted cuz of the update. But some of them have been update already.
There is a lot of parody survivors of other games. For original Survivors i havent seen a lot... Seamstress is another one, really good

The one i showed before is Arsonist

[misty scarab]

hello does anyone have a modpack they can share the profile for? i havent played the game that much and never used mods

[gray jungle]

Silksong reference?

[uncut pumice]

why is it all fucking blue archive

I grow worried for this community

[dusky igloo]

guys how can i optimise modding? i mean rn hook gen patcher buggin and it takes 20 mins for mods to load

[digital musk]

Those were there for a while before getting updated

[uncut pumice]

yes, I can see that

still ominous

[fringe junco]

does anyone know if propersave has been updated yet?

[west frost]

Is there a mod to fix some of the issues at the moment?

[umbral tiger]

Hi, I downpatched the game to devotion via the pinned way (it worked) and I try to mod the game, but if I start the game it just starts it in vanilla, not with mods. Does someone know what the issue is / how I can fix it?

[coarse folio]

Did you downpatch the mods?

[summer torrent]

uogh.

[umbral tiger]

yeah

[short palm]

does anyone know which mod makes the false son not spawn in?

i'm only using client sided qol mods

[umbral tiger]

used the profile patch that was posted here and the mods I pick weren't updated in the last month

[junior slate]

me waiting for Shaman to be updated

[worthy elm]

What is a up to date faster interactable mod

[plush frigate]

I recently had an instance where a void implosion that hadn't detonated yet disappeared, and the only two things I can think of was it was culled by occlusion culling or VFX culling.

I want to verify the cause of this before making a bug report. I don't believe void implosions should ever be hidden, considering they are instant death.
https://youtu.be/qhY-U2d9108

[torn yew]

Are you only able to download one survivor mod at a time?

I downloaded a couple only one is showing up

Or are they just not updated yet?

[tough sun]

i absolutely had this happen to me too, thought i was safe for a second and was going into that way but it reappeared quickly and i didnt die that one time

[signal locust]

anyone know if theres a mod that reverts artificer’s hovering back to holding space instead of toggling by pressing space?

[sand widget]

No idea... But now that you mention it...

[vestal aurora]

It was a solid yes before the DLC released but I'm still on the fence right now

[sand widget]

Me with The House... most creative playstyle i have ever seen on a mod character

[gritty galleon]

I tried to downpatch but the game isn't launching

[sand widget]

Cooked

Nah jk

[jade prairie]

Aw... i would looooooove it
I understand the feeling though, hopefully the upcoming patch makes it exciting again

[glad marlin]

isnt there a setting for it?

[signal locust]

i looked and didn’t see one, but i could very well be stupid and dumb

[glad marlin]

lemme check rq

[glad marlin]

in gameplay tab, its the third setting above umbrella features

[signal locust]

oh lol💀

thanks

[scenic horizon]

how did you get mods to work with the newest update? my game just gets stuck at 99% loaded

[sand widget]

A lot of mods dont work cuz they are outdated

[scenic horizon]

i tried with just the basic API plus dependencies and it still didnt work.

[sand widget]

Unable all of them and start testing them slowly to see what is the one giving you problem

[sand widget]

Damn, ok, thats weird

[scenic horizon]

its not a huge deal

[sand widget]

Did you update the API?

[worthy eagle]

is there a mod out there by chance for versions pre-SotS that add usage of the new SotS skins

[sand widget]

I dont think someone would make a mod like that

It wouln't have too much sense i mean

Cuz they would work with the updated version of the mod tools now, not the old ones

[wary marsh]

is it normal that when i start modded the loading thing just stops at 7%?

[spiral kayak]

does anyone know what happend to the mystic sword?

nvm, loosk like they took a break, idk if anyone is maintaining the mods anymore but

[halcyon crypt]

Ror2 modded, I cant seem to damage enemies and they cant damage me, anyone might know why?

[Error : Unity Log] MissingFieldException: Field not found: RoR2.DamageType RoR2.DamageInfo.damageType Due to: Could not find field in class Stack trace: (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoR2.HealthComponent::TakeDamage>?1401370512(RoR2.HealthComponent,RoR2.DamageInfo) (wrapper dynamic-method) RoR2.OverlapAttack.DMD<RoR2.OverlapAttack::PerformDamage>(UnityEngine.GameObject,UnityEngine.GameObject,single,bool,RoR2.ProcChainMask,single,RoR2.DamageColorIndex,RoR2.DamageTypeCombo,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,System.Collections.Generic.List1<RoR2.OverlapAttack/OverlapInfo>)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoR2.OverlapAttack.DMDRoR2.OverlapAttack::ProcessHits(RoR2.OverlapAttack,System.Collections.Generic.List1<RoR2.OverlapAttack/OverlapInfo>) RoR2.OverlapAttack.Fire (System.Collections.Generic.List1[T] hitResults) (at <0dc614f29ef0442c92ce6a5e68871e9a>:IL_0308)
RoR2.Projectile.ProjectileOverlapAttack.MyFixedUpdate (System.Single deltaTime) (at <0dc614f29ef0442c92ce6a5e68871e9a>:IL_0133)
RoR2.Projectile.ProjectileOverlapAttack.Update () (at <0dc614f29ef0442c92ce6a5e68871e9a>:IL_000E)`

[spiral kayak]

what mods are you using

[halcyon crypt]

Its a pretty big list, easy way to send them all?

[spiral kayak]

uhh, not realy, are you playing w survivors of the void?

sorry i mean seekers of the storm

[halcyon crypt]

Yeah seekers

[spiral kayak]

yeah, seekers broke a lot of mods, try to only use mods that came out after august 27th

[wary marsh]

im waiting allready for almost 7 minutes i restarted it 3 times but its not going to 100% its that normal

[bronze sky]

Has the Han-d mod been update for seekers

[junior slate]

The Damage Type API is broken

[spiral kayak]

i beleve so

[shrewd swallow]

soo uhhh quick questio anyone getting a glitch where they cant take damage nor do damage

[spiral kayak]

yeah

it happens if you use any mods released after august 27th

[gloomy crypt]

scratches head

i downpatched my game and installed matching mod versions so there shouldnt be any fucky updates

[shrewd swallow]

its not any mods i think it was an update they put out for the damgae type api because it was working completley fine this morning

and you cant turn just the damage type api off because api itself relys off of it

[gloomy crypt]

this is with r2modman, i tried with thunderstore and it wasnt much better

[spiral kayak]

hmmm, im not a modder or anything, so thats just what i assumed, my bad,

[slim chasm]

this is an issue that happened to me in the new version with scrollable lobby ui

[gloomy crypt]

yeah i do have that, ill try without it

but it isnt the new version so thats also weird

[slim chasm]

try reinstalling it if the game works after getting rid of it maybe?

[spiral kayak]

the last update for damage API was on friday, at 6:30 AM, so its probably not damage api being weird

[cyan basalt]

any good general difficulty mods out/compatable with the recent update?

[shrewd swallow]

shiiii how you see when the updates were ause im trynafigurre out which ones it was

then ima disable them

nvm found it out

RoR2BepInExPack was update 32 minutes ago and thats the one update that i did

so thats the problem

[shrewd swallow]

if anyones not dealing damage or taking it its most likely that

and you cant turn it off cause all of api relys on it so gg

[urban arrow]

Hi! How many mods were broken with the recent update/DLC? I've wanted to try some survivor mods but nothing is working right now.

[gloomy crypt]

ok so that one mod being removed kind of helped but now im here

[proper flame]

is sharesuite working again?

[quick crest]

does anyone have an idea or a guide for modding on the downpatch? preferably with r2modman, but i can manually install mods too

[gloomy crypt]

none of the custom characters are appearing

[gloomy crypt]

that would be much appreciated 😭😭

[shrewd swallow]

so far from what i cant tell is that all of api works you can have them to the latest update ill show yall what im running

[gloomy crypt]

lol commando has no guns

[shrewd swallow]

So the recent ror2bepinexpack update breaks it to where you cant do any damage just switch it back to the previuse update and game works again

shit how does one show pic in here

[covert vault]

can't seem to get the seekers of the storm fix mods to work
oh well

[urban arrow]

same

[gloomy crypt]

got it working, MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE OLD MODULES FOR THE API INDIVIDUALLY

[proven pulsar]

Any mods working yet?

[obsidian kraken]

god i love deputy

+495% Attack Speed with R

[sand widget]

Really like that mod. Kinda broken tho

[obsidian kraken]

if youre not at least kinda broken in ror2 youre not very fun

[rich surge]

I see alot of character mods being updated

[grand wedge]

if i was to get bug fixing mods for SOTS which one do I add

[umbral hedge]

I'm looking for a specific mod working with dedicated servers, allowing the host to setup a specific number of shrines/allowing to speed up the spawning of mobs etc. Someone know the name of this mod pretty please ?

[thorn ginkgo]

is there a more convenient way of using r2modman for a downpatched ror2?

[unkempt idol]

pog

[hollow flint]

any good fix/qol mods to take while waiting for an actual patch?

i'd downgrade but i like some of the new stuff they added and skins

[azure heron]

is it possible for two skins on the same survivor to have completely different animation sets? i'm not a modder so i can't really do anything with this information 🥲 just curious if that's a possibility

[full garnet]

nope, cant edit or add animations into existing characters in any way

[azure heron]

what if it's a modded character

[full garnet]

if its using the same rig and such from an existing character, there may be some jank involved

but at this point youre kinda just making a whole new survivor

thats significantly more work than a skin

[scenic dagger]

I'm noticing that propersave doesn't keep equipment

for a temporary fix, what mod would let me just spawn back in the equipment?

[wraith sierra]

Hello
Does anyone knows a mod that changes Mithrix model to a cooler one? Or something that changes his design really

[broken prairie]

anyone know where to find HAND-D’s shell for the fuel array in the HAND-D mod by EnforcerGang

[stable gull]

anyone know if theres a mod that always spawns radar scanners on undiscovered locaitons?

[full garnet]

aerolt

[ripe nebula]

Can some beautiful and gorgeous individual make this a mod

[swift pumice]

It was made, unfortunately, it got deprecated.

[ripe nebula]

I believe "umbral mithrix" changes his design? Might be deprecated at the moment though

[ripe nebula]

Dang, seriously? That exact one? I hope it gets fixed if so

[full garnet]

i dont think this mod exists man

[swift pumice]

Nah, just pulling your leg.

[full garnet]

the misinformer...

[ripe nebula]

I got got

[wraith sierra]

It seems like it, definetly looks better but I'm only looking to change visuals, still thanks for letting me know. I might try it some time later (if the mod still works )

[modern apex]

the lamp thing and warped echo i've seen already in aetherium

warped echo applies 25% incoming damage to bleed in this mod which is cool

[lyric shale]

Growth Nectar being a void for Death Mark makes no real sense since void items are meant to retain the same category as the original (Damage/Healing/Utility)

[ripe nebula]

Yea I don't 100% agree with all changes, but I do at least want most of them

[ripe nebula]

Very cool yea, seen it

Could be cool if someone made a mod with these chances and you could enter the config to enable/disable at will

[lyric shale]

Personally I would make War Bonds just a green tier item being 25 +25 per stack.

Alternative to Antler Shield is just making it like Tough Times from RoR1, giving an amount of armour and maybe moving it to green tier.

Warped Echo has some interesting synergies with stuff like Medkit, although with the fact it being tied to FPS currently breaks that rn.

😔

[tropic walrus]

is rocket broken rn enemies r invulnerable D:

[queen zinc]

i tried to install celestial war tanks on a game downpatched to 1.2.3, does anyone know what caused this?

the only mods i have installed are wartanks and the dependencies

[trail ether]

what mods that add melee survivors are fun to play and decently balanced?

or rather i should get if i want to play melee

[latent moon]

why game stuck

now its stuck at 99

[trail ether]

i had that problem and after removing broken mods it stopped occuring

[latent moon]

broken h o w

ive trimmed down so many mods and still no werk

[trail ether]

idk in the console there bunch of errors

and after removin older mods (pre seaker)

there were none

[hollow flint]

why isnt my stormtweaks mod working

[jaunty hornet]

mind if I post that at the ROR modding discord? I loved the idea

[haughty leaf]

You very likely have post seekers update versions of those dependencies. The mod manager chain downloads the latest version if you don't have it in the list yet which means you need to actually check and downgrade each and every one

[hollow flint]

help pls

[haughty leaf]

Define not working. Is there any errors in the console?

[hollow flint]

theres a bunch

gimme a sec

[haughty leaf]

The dev for the mod is in the modding discord (Found in pinned messages here) can likely send your Logoutput tothat channels techsupport with an @ to them witha detailed description of what's going on, They're pretty quick at fixing things

[hollow flint]

ill check it out, thanks

[haughty leaf]

Ah yeah damagetapi is fucked atm

R2api devs know and are attempting to solve it since the thing they used in game had a breaking change with seekers

[hollow flint]

so stormtweaks just not working because of r2api? :(

[haughty leaf]

That one module yeah

[hollow flint]

sad

[barren turtle]

Sorry, probably been asked a million times- just getitng into the game with some friends and we wanted to mod it, are most mods busted rn because of the dlc?

[neat steppe]

If you don't wanna play with broken mods get an older instance from steamdb

[fast shore]

WHY CANT I DOWNLOAD STARSTORM AHHHHHH

[fast shore]

yeah i started playing at a really bad time so much is depreciated i downloaded a ton of mods and only like a quarter actually work

[haughty leaf]

They're steadily returning

[fast shore]

im tweaking

[haughty leaf]

It's marked deprecated, change your filters to show deprecated mods but it doesn't work on seekers

[fast shore]

ohhh ty

[haughty leaf]

People asking why it didn't work and it''s going to take awhile to update so it got marked that way to stop people trying to run it on current patch

[fast shore]

ahh alright

man a lot of good stuff is depriciated rn i feel like im misisng out

omg the rocket survivor is so much fun though

i feel like a rocket jump type character like that should already be in vanilla

[dapper ether]

is there like a wiki for starstorm 2 i couldnt find any info about the survivors

[fast shore]

no clue sorry

[haughty leaf]

https://thunderstore.io/package/TeamMoonstorm/Starstorm2/wiki/252-survivors/

On the mod page it self. It's a bit outdated after all the massive changes that's coming soon™️ once things settle but shoud be good enough

[torn yew]

Anyone know if the driver survivor mod is still available?

Looked it up on thunderstore couldn’t find it

[haughty leaf]

Deprecated while work is being done to fix it/the game itself

[dapper ether]

hmm i cant find info on the rocket guy and pyro guy

[haughty leaf]

Rocket is not from ss2, taht's it's own thing, Pyro isn't officially in ss2 yet that's aprt of VideoGameMod2 though ss2 is developing it's own modern pyro

[dapper ether]

oh that makes sense lol

[haughty leaf]

SS2 official has Executioner, Chirr, Nemesis Commando and nemesis Mercenary as it currently stands

[muted solstice]

Lost access to playing false son after I unlocked him in vanilla but switched to modded

[slim chasm]

scrollable lobby ui causes this

[oblique nest]

how do i use the blacklist mod?

[slim chasm]

you blacklist items like how you turn off and on artifacts.

[oblique nest]

ah, thought i had to mess around in the logbook, thanks

[lusty pivot]

so apparently there's now a gnome chef mod alongside modded chef being updated for sots

but apparently gnomechef is a lookalike of the chef mod but

it makes chef invade you every 10 minutes

🤣

[slim chasm]

should've turned every enemy into chef instead

[lusty pivot]

i'm like

what the heck is gnome chef

-10 minutes later

-UMBRA OF CHEF

[slim chasm]

someone better make a version of that that turns up the spawn rate 10x and turns every enemy into tiny weaker chefs.

and then turn bosses into 2x size chef

[lusty pivot]

ok but what's funnier is

gnome chef entirely copies modded chef's page and update log

[slim chasm]

that is pretty funny

[slim chasm]

false chef

[lusty pivot]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Gnome/ChefMod/changelog/

gnome chef

https://thunderstore.io/package/EnforcerGang/ChefMod/

official chef

it literally mirrors modded chef XD

[peak temple]

i think i finally know whats going on

[lusty pivot]

hwat

[peak temple]

i think it may be because my thunderstore has newer versions of mods while rormanager has older

because the only mods that work are the ones that had the newest update before

[muted solstice]

Anyone else have this problem or know any possible fixes

[peak temple]

its because of the state of modded

or just bugs

[muted solstice]

How would I get False son back since I already have the achievement?

[slim chasm]

get RealerCheatUnlocks mod and right click on false son maybe?

[peak temple]

if my theory is correct this should work

[zenith sentinel]

how can i get the old autosprint for the downpatched ror2?

[crimson kiln]

is there a disappearing chest mod thats up to date?

[balmy shale]

pretty sure emptychestsbegone works

[faint lintel]

Does anyone know the name of the mod that shows item's descriptions when you hoover them?

And does anyone know how to see which mods are compatible with multiplayer?

[grizzled oxide]

Are there any mods that balance loot distribution in multiplayer

[faint lintel]

Mod called ShareSuit

[torn surge]

When i downpatched my game all entities are now invisible including me how do i fix it

[lucid topaz]

Is there a way to use Aerolt to remove multiple stacks of a buff/debuff at once? I'd much rather not click 36K times.

[crisp cedar]

is anyone else stuck at 10% when trying to play with mods?

[ripe nebula]

Go for it

[fathom quiver]

I uhh I installed SOTSfixer and my HUD is gone? Even when I check the option "Enable HUD"

[dark eagle]

is there a mod that just remove the new blue elites? lost 4 or 5 runs to them at this point

[haughty leaf]

Is that the only thing installed period? Otherwise I'd suggest turning half the mods at a time to narrow the problem one

[fathom quiver]

I think I had team mate revival and the the multiplayer one. Thanks

[haughty leaf]

Teammaterevivals 2 years old so makes sense then since it adds ui elements

[ripe nebula]

The ones that reflect damage?

If so, there's a mod called "removeTwisted" that removes them, yes

[cursive solstice]

if ive downpatched thru the version selector could i just use thunderstore as usual?

[haughty leaf]

No reason not to. Just make sure the mods you run are also for the correct game version

[cursive solstice]

🫡

[elder vine]

how many mods were broken by the update?

[modest sphinx]

I'm trying to share my mods with friends via code and both their games get stuck at 99 when loading but mine works just fine??

[static stone]

Hey, so I can't download modded characters on 1.2.4.4 version of the game

[haughty leaf]

Are the lists truly identical? No random disabled or added older mod?

[haughty leaf]

Might need to explain that abit more. They should work just fine unless you also have mods updated for seekers in that list too

[static stone]

I got no mods for SOTS

They're mostly pre-SOTS

[modest sphinx]

they just use the code, launch the game and it gets stuck

[haughty leaf]

Quadpuple check everything. a single mod, usually api stuff from everyone else that claimed the same, may be for seekers

[haughty leaf]

I'd have to see a log in that case cause my advise is the same for everyone else in these trying times, disable half mods repeatedly to narrow down the problem mod

[static stone]

I did check everything!

That's the issue! The game won't simply boot up

[haughty leaf]

Not booting at all's a very different issue then lol

[static stone]

If I have the Enforcer/Rocket mod on, the game won't simply boot

[haughty leaf]

Dumb questions but there is two 1.2.4.4 versions cause gearbox did a funny with the glowing sky rocks and devotion updates

Is it the correct game update lol

[static stone]

1.2.4.4

[haughty leaf]

There are TWO 1.2.4.4 game builds

But I assume whatever method for downgrading was targeting devotion

[static stone]

Yes

[haughty leaf]

So does it boot with just bepinex?

[static stone]

And R2API

[modest sphinx]

where do i see log

[haughty leaf]

That's something atleast. So when you say not boot does that console show up for even just a couple seconds

On the mod manager: settings > locations > browse profile folder > bepinex folder > logoutput.txt

[static stone]

It does show up

okay I fixed it

[haughty leaf]

Ok it showing up is good. that means there's a log

Oh? What was the fix lol

[static stone]

I dunno honestly lmao

[haughty leaf]

Helpful 😛

[civic widget]

!reimport moment it sounds like

[cyan basalt]

i like the StormTweaks mod but giving chef up to 3 hatchets at once should have been compensated by reducing the damage of the move

feels great to control but makes Chef overpowered

also any difficulty mods working with SoTS?

[fiery nimbus]

so was I a fool to do the github version selector thing when the navconsole stuff was in the pinned messages here

[haughty leaf]

Not really. Either method of downgrading is fine. The github downgraders just makes it easy cause of a ui

[fiery nimbus]

yeah was just the whole putting in password and username that made me feel a bit uneasy

[haughty leaf]

Which is valid. it''s a nessisary evil though since otherwise you can't download a game when it doesn''t know what you own

[fiery nimbus]

yeah

[haughty leaf]

For what it's worth. It's developed by one of the core modding developers for bepinex and r2api

[fiery nimbus]

that does put my mind at ease a bit

[queen zinc]

Thank you

[true rune]

my skin mods still work no way

[true rune]

playing in 144 fps without having to suffer feels so good

[urban cove]

mods are still working?

[haughty leaf]

Plenty are back now yes

[cobalt goblet]

Modded won't work after I downloaded the backpatch

Gets stuck at 65% on the loading screen

[haughty leaf]

Likely have seekers updated mods then

[cobalt goblet]

Can I backpatch them too?

[haughty leaf]

yeah

[cobalt goblet]

How?

[haughty leaf]

Just check the versions that were uplaoded on the website and go for ones that are prior to the dlc release date

You can either click the install button right there on the website for the specific version or grab them on the mod manager as it prompts you for what version you want (though doesn't show dates there)

[cobalt goblet]

Ok I think i'll unbackpatch it then i can't be bothered its like 40 mods

[haughty leaf]

It's a very simple issues tbf. The mod manager always chain downloads the latest version of a mod if a version of that mods not already present in the mod list. Once you have the correct version you want you just refrain from clicking update all and it'll be fine

[cobalt goblet]

Yeah but I'd have to individually find all updated mods

[wind crest]

does anyone know how to fix a bug where you hit something and it creates a ball of light and makes you not be able to use any abilities?

[haughty leaf]

I assume that's having a mod that depends on r2api_damagetype to function as that r2api module is currently still broken due to an internal game change and needs updating. Hard to say further without a log

[coral wharf]

do mods work with the new update?

[haughty leaf]

Yes* individual mods will still need to be updated for it but the ones that ahve work

[coral wharf]

oh alr

[peak meteor]

i assume the dlc hurt mods quite badly and that i might as well delete the mod profile that has like 180 odd mods

[haughty leaf]

No worse than any other update

Things are already recovering in under a week

[peak meteor]

modding is the lifeblood of this game ngl

[coral wharf]

are mods really that important for this game?

[grand galleon]

is their a mutitude mod? (that works)

[static stone]

Seems like there's something bugging the game

Since the Pilot and HAN-D mods simply won't work

The console shows up, but then it closes, and the game doesn't boot up

I got something with EPERM?

[jaunty hornet]

thx

[graceful yew]

I have the pilot mod but it doesn't load in

Does anyone have the pilot mod by enforcer gang ?

[final crest]

I don't think it's been updated for dlc2

[peak temple]

my game loading stops at 100% any idea as to why it would be like that

[peak temple]

yes i cant play without driver

[jade prairie]

so

scorched acres just didn't load

[ripe nebula]

Too cruel

[peak temple]

just dongrade your game

[coral wharf]

fair

[peak temple]

if your game doesnt get stuck at 100%

[haughty leaf]

Restarting the mod manager / pc tends to fix that. It seems like it just got stuck and is "in use" even when it's not

[haughty leaf]

known issue with stageaesthetic and that variant of scorched acres

[ripe nebula]

Mod Makers I am begging you not to abbreviate "counter part"

[jade prairie]

ah

i have propersave so i just reloaded and that fixed it lol

[haughty leaf]

Yeah it rerolls the variant lol

Since it's not seeded to the run

[ripe nebula]

What's that one mod that adds the artifact which makes it so that every time you go to the bazar it gives you 2 billion lunar coins? i forget

[static stone]

Ok I got it

[haughty leaf]

probably not working on seekers but it was from MysticSword https://thunderstore.io/package/TheMysticSword/DontCareAboutLunarCoins/

[static stone]

https://thunderstore.io/package/elumi01/Devotion_Update_Base_Pack/

[ripe nebula]

Thank youu

[static stone]

If you play on the Devotion update version

This is the mod

[haughty leaf]

Worlds first useful modpack

[static stone]

Found it myself

[ripe nebula]

too real

[haughty leaf]

Finally a pack that's for the bois that's actually for the bois

[graceful yew]

I know a lot of people was hating on false son but I thought he was kinda cool especially the idea behind it

[cursive solstice]

man ive stripped my mods down to the bare essentials and still cant get past loading screen any tips?

[oblique panther]

is there a mod that fixes the issue with 4+ players

[graceful yew]

I deleted my game and reinstalled it and that fixed it idk if it will for you I also deleted the saved data from the mod manager in files if you do that you might want to back up ur profile .

[cursive solstice]

sounds worth a try

guess ill need to downpatch again tho

[haughty leaf]

Which game version though a logoutput would probably put things to rest as to what the issue is

[cursive solstice]

im on devotion

speaking of could i use deprecated stuff on it unless stated otherwise?

[haughty leaf]

Then you probably have updated for seekers mods in the list

[cursive solstice]

oh

[haughty leaf]

Most likely yeah. The mod version upload dates the important part

[cursive solstice]

that causes issues too??

[haughty leaf]

yes lol

[cursive solstice]

damn i fucking hate this update so much

[haughty leaf]

It's a problem both ways, You need to correct for the game version mods

[cyan basalt]

I really hope the mod manager makes it easier to filter mods by version

[cursive solstice]

talk about a mess

[haughty leaf]

It was talked about on the modding discord by the site admin

[ripe nebula]

They definitely removed an effect that happened on-screen when you took damage right? there used to be a red hue of some sort, right?

[haughty leaf]

It's going to be a shit ton of work to support especially retroactively

Correct

They're blogpost talked about readding it

[cyan basalt]

I feel like it’s an essential feature for people to continue to play with mods on older versions tho tbh

[ripe nebula]

yea, I think this might fix it

[cyan basalt]

Like most people won’t bother

[haughty leaf]

it's something that would need to be supported from the start cause we''re now nearly 5 years into ror2s life

Infact i think we are into 5 years lol

[cyan basalt]

If you are on devotion you don’t need that anyways lol

[ripe nebula]

I don't really feel like downgrading; for the most part i like the new content, I'm just patchwork fixing it myself at this point

[haughty leaf]

I personally really hate that fact taht the community is running on two seperate game versions atm cause it's made troubleshooting annoying as fuck for me lol

[cursive solstice]

do i need to correct the backend library mod stuff too?

[coral wharf]

i wanna play the funni tank mod, but its not updated for the new updated, so i can only wait

[haughty leaf]

Yes every mod needs to be the correct game version build

[cursive solstice]

i will die

[haughty leaf]

Sometimes a devotion build may work on seekers but it definitely wont the other way

[cursive solstice]

yeah this is gonna be a problem for tomorrow me dont have it in me today

[haughty leaf]

I kinda wish the who downpatching thing wasn't propagated so heavily cause now it kinda is obligated to be supported lol

[cyan basalt]

I haven’t seen this in the bug reports so it might have something to do with my mods, but has anyone else had ballista randomly instantly cancel after activation

[cursive solstice]

id rather downpatch than deal with whatever this update is

[graceful yew]

I have a question has anyone used Xsplitscreen mod ?

[haughty leaf]

Which is fair. Normally people that would downpatch a game accept that they'll be able to figure things out for themselves

Xsplitscreen doesn't work on seekers and pretty sure it hasn't worked for ages either during devotion

[graceful yew]

Oh okay thank you for the reply

[cursive solstice]

yeah im willing to do that its just the fact that this update is a pure downgrade that has little to no reason to exist in the first place

[cyan basalt]

If it wasn’t illegal I wish someone would port the new art related content to older versions

[haughty leaf]

Unfortunately it would be if it was uploaded with the files and honestly would be fucking dubious even if it required the player to provide the files

[scenic dagger]

So I was having problems with ProperSave not saving my equipment, and it was suggested that I install Aerolt. How do I spawn equipment with Aerolt?

(as in use a mod to spawn in equipment as a temporary fix)

[haughty leaf]

There should be a ui button on the top left that's hopefully self explanatory enough to spawn stuff in with. I never personally used it though and prefer just using the console with debugtoolkit

[scenic dagger]

I also tried debugtoolkit but maybe i forgot to do something because "give_equip" wasn't working for me

but as for Aerolt, I could find a menu to spawn non-equipment items, but i couldnt find a menu to spawn equipments.

[opaque rover]

whats the latest version aerolt works on?

[haughty leaf]

Should be seekers now as of recently

give_equip nameofequip should've worked tbh

Since it'd be autocompleting its name

[scenic dagger]

i'll try again, i think it was giving some form of error message

it was also not autocompleting

[haughty leaf]

Maybe it wasn't installed properly or corruppted downloade so never loaded

Will add if the bepin console ever disagrees with a mod being installed by never actually showing it loading in the mods loading tab then on the mod manager go to settings > debugging > toggle download cache and then download it agian

[scenic dagger]

deactivating debugtoolkit and then reactivating it seemed to fix thigns

[stark bone]

How do I use the ItemBlacklist mod?

[cursive solstice]

They gotta add a sots compatible tag or something

[stark bone]

no like what is the button to blaclist

[haughty leaf]

They have but it's not retroactive. mod authors have to use it and it still doesn't distinguish individual mod versions

[haughty leaf]

On the character select lobby

[stark bone]

ok

where in the select

[haughty leaf]

it's very ahrd to miss it as it's udner artifacts

[stark bone]

ok

[left sinew]

any up to date mods that allow me to remove certain items from the game?

[haughty leaf]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Thrayonlosa/ItemBlacklist/

[left sinew]

tysm

[peak temple]

is there any fix to my game being stuck at 100%

[mossy coyote]

Is it possible to down patch the game? So I can play it.

[cyan basalt]

On steam yea

Well through an external app tho

[jade prairie]

ror2versionselector

[mossy coyote]

Thanks homie

[grand galleon]

what survivor mod works?

[cursive solstice]

Do sots compatible mods require the dlc or just updated base game?

[cyan basalt]

Are there any mods out there that have config options for skill damage? (I am trying to balance chef since StormTweaks makes him feel clean but op)

[haughty leaf]

Just the game itself to be updated. Everyones got the dlc content regardless of ownership

[haughty leaf]

Yeah making sure every mod is for the correct game version. otherwise post log if it's the 1% chance it's actually just a broken mod

[tawny wigeon]

would it be possible to mod the ability to loop after the green portals

[fossil wasp]

you dont even need that

[grand galleon]

some survivor mods dont work they load the survivor just doesn't appear example: paladinmod
is it me or the update?

[scenic dagger]

aren't you able to do that by leaving through the green portal on Prime Meridian by default?

[grand galleon]

are there some survivor mods that work?

[noble nest]

any mods that fix some of the new dlc issues and balance the new characters pls ? 🙂

[gritty galleon]

Can my save file get corrupted if I downpatch

[hushed tusk]

Is there a mod that fixes Acrid's jump? Or do I gotta wait for them to pull out the patch

[wary marsh]

are there any working mods rn that gives you extra survivors or extra skills for the characters

[grand galleon]

why are monsters invincible?

[rich surge]

Does the cheat unlocker mod working? Its not updated

[grand galleon]

and me

should i downpatch to play mods?

[cloud stirrup]

I’m sorry this might be a question people have asked a hundred times already but what’s the state of modding? I know people were pretty unoptimistic on the first few days of SotS, but I guess I’m wondering if efforts are being made to fix the mods?

[opaque rover]

does anyone know how i can give myself a specific item with Aerolt?

nvm i found it

[long mauve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244355803477966860/1279901564869283911/2024-09-01_13-31-19.mp4?ex=66d620b8&is=66d4cf38&hm=4039b556a391c981c6ec1dc40031ef830cd113c56c58e8c6525d10ee25b9cf4d&

i love this game so much bro

[uncut pagoda]

hi! for some reason mods are still not working for me even after updating all of them with the new DLC. am i missing something?

like did the mod engine change or smth?

[ivory sun]

Hey, how do you get more character slots?

I want to try a modded character, but they don't show up cause the list is full

[full garnet]

scrollablelobbyui

[ivory sun]

Oh, I tried that and it didn't work. Do i need to edit config?

[full garnet]

should work just fine, you in downpatch or did you update the mod?

[ivory sun]

I should try doing it with only the character and scrollable lobby in the install, one sec.

Yeah it works when I do that

I think it's a mod conflict then. Thanks.

[full garnet]

👍

[swift pumice]

Turns out Chronic Expansion also works with Safer Spaces...

[stray cedar]

are skin mods working on sots?

[swift pumice]

Some do, some... I don't know.

I'm using the Enforcer's Grand Mastery skin here so...

[stray cedar]

ok

guess ill just see by myself

[swift pumice]

I can, however, confirm that the MadVeteran and LostThroughTime Skin packs do work.

[modern flint]

what mods work rn

does wartank mod work?

[vital sentinel]

is there a faster scrapper/printer/cauldron mod that works rn? and for that matter, is there a quicker way to find which mods work aside from trial and error?

[finite hornet]

https://thunderstore.io/package/Flyingcomputer/Exchange_Changes/

[finite hornet]

most mods say in the title or in the description if they've been updated

[earnest topaz]

Is it alright if I ask a question via a poll in this channel? I think it is relevant to modding.

I ask because poll permissions were removed in the main discussion channel for the time being and I don't want to cause a fuss by posting one here without you guys being ok with it.

[grand galleon]

is their a mod that fixes modded?

does mutitude work?

[iron lodge]

is modding broken?

[modest sphinx]

a bit late but heres a log of my friend stuck at 99 nevermind apparently the profile name is too long or something cause he renamed it and it started working

[upbeat gull]

Can you downpatch and keep the dlc?

[full garnet]

no

[upbeat gull]

Aww

[neon lagoon]

are all mods just broken or something?

[karmic imp]

game update

tends to do that

[upbeat gull]

What site are mods on?

[tacit pawn]

why was Starstorm 2 deprecated? Something to do with Gearbox fucking stuff up I assume?

[karmic imp]

game was massively updated, this tends to break mods. this applies to nearly every game's modding scene

[tacit pawn]

@karmic impok, but I've heard talk of Gearbox changing the codebase of the game, which cause some modders to quit. makes me think things will be harder to fix than usual, if they ever get fixced at all.

[karmic imp]

sobbing rn

inshallah i won't have to downgrade

[heady jasper]

Yes but not crazily hard
Idk why people are making such a big deal about it

[tacit pawn]

here's hoping the mods eventually get fixed. I would be VERY SADGE if the modding scene was forever ruined!

😭

[mild tinsel]

ok ig

which item can just turn the whole stage into void

[jade prairie]

holy cow thats a lot of ❕ items

[eternal spruce]

hey guys if im using a mod manager am i able to make booting from steam boot modded

[jade prairie]

what mod manager are you using?

r2modman does launch the game from steam

if you want steam to always launch modded and you have r2modman you can do this

[eternal spruce]

oh alright thanks

[jade prairie]

--doorstop-enabled true --doorstop-target-assembly "C:\Users\YOURUSER\AppData\Roaming\r2modmanPlus-local\RiskOfRain2\profiles\sots\BepInEx\core\BepInEx.Preloader.dll"

replace with your user haha

r2modman generates your argument on the help page

ideally copy that and not mine 😋

[eternal spruce]

and im assuming "profiles\sots" is to be replaced with your profile name

[jade prairie]

no um

where it says your user in caps

🫣

ideally just copy what r2 modman gives to you in the help section

[eternal spruce]

thank you i found it

[jade prairie]

enjoy!

[crimson kiln]

autosprint mods stopped working for anyone else?

[heady jasper]

is scrollable lobbyUI broken? I can't figure out how to get to more characters than the first page

[misty bolt]

I'm having issues with my downpatched version where the game takes extra long to load in, and I just get a black screen when I use the teleporter to get to the next stage,

[modest veldt]

Can anyone help me whitelist mortician on dronemeld (minionmeld)? I dunno what strings to whitelist D:

EDIT: GhoulMaster and TombstoneMaster works

[brisk tusk]

anyone running celestial tank know what version their r2api_skins is because every char but commando, multi, engi, arti, and some layers of other chars(like huntress scarf or half of loader) are invisble

or if theres some other issue i likely missed

[narrow meadow]

some of my characters are straight up invisible, i already downpatched so whats up?

[somber portal]

so, why does Rocket feel like he's much slower than I remember? Like he loses momentum so quickly when rocket-jumping?

[lyric shale]

@brisk tree Really like your logbook changes mod, a thing that was bothering me as well (especially the pickup texts). 🙏

Altered them before myself as well. 😩

Especially with how ??? some of the text is heh

[jade prairie]

mod idea: really obnoxious jelly overlay splattered across your screen every time you take damage

[hollow ginkgo]

my mod idea

[brisk tree]

glad you enjoy it !!

[lyric shale]

Only problem is that it overrides the text for the mod that changes Antler Shield to Armour/Speed increase. 😩

[brisk tree]

ah fair

if you wqant to you can go into the mod's files and remove the antler shield entry

or adjust it yourself

i might update tonight agian though because apparently some of the item text is Wrong

[lyric shale]

I just manually implemented all the text changes into my files basically.

[brisk tree]

chance doll is like 40% + 10% per stack

[lyric shale]

🙏

Yeah Chance Doll actually nutty.

[brisk tree]

oh i meant to write o n the mod too that gbx can just full use the text of the mod if they want to

i dont know if they ever would i kinda doubt it but if they want to its completely free go take it

[lyric shale]

👍

Gearbox, make the text for the new items better please. 🙏

[brisk tree]

yeah im sure there's better ways to phrase some of them than i came up wtih

[lyric shale]

I do think some of the pickup text could be adjusted a bit in the mod though, like very few of them.
I personally like having the text tell me a bit more information (like the 3 second delay on Warped Echo, or 5 kills for Expansion)

[hollow ginkgo]

war bonds also works really weirdly, the logbook implies that it should give you 75 but thats just not really true for some reason? if you start on stage 1 and have war bonds via rebirth it only gives you $51 i know this is explained somewhere in one of woolies videos

[lyric shale]

War Bonds is borked lol

[hollow ginkgo]

absolutely

[brisk tree]

yea that wouldn't be a bad change

chronic just felt so wordy that i didnt want to include it

warped could definitely just say though

[lyric shale]

I just put Chronic kind of like this.

[brisk tree]

yea fair enough

[lyric shale]

What is interesting is the "in combat" is different from Urns "in combat"

No consistency in this game. 😩

[brisk tree]

im a bit wary of making the pickup the same as the description though

or like really close

just missing exact nmbers in places

[lyric shale]

To be fair some older items give exact numbers.

[hollow ginkgo]

i think its fair to make the logbook descriptions more complicated but i feel like pickup descriptions should also at least be correct

[hollow ginkgo]

this has always been inconsistent to be fair

most items dont do that and i feel like its reasonable they dont

they should! but all these weird numbers you dont understand can be a lot

[lyric shale]

Lens-makers, Tri-Tip, Energy Drink...

Really all the stuff where numbers are fairly consistent.

Berzerker's Pauldron mentions how many enemies are needed to be killed in order to activate.

[hollow ginkgo]

that's fair yeah

[lyric shale]

Why did they not just set it to 3 when it was listed as 3 kills.

I think when it comes to how they stack yeah usually numbers aren't needed.

But sometimes can be handy.

[hollow ginkgo]

very very true

i feel like when a number is important or neat its listed

[lyric shale]

Like with Bolstering Lantern I thought it was 25% HP or below when I first picked it up.

Turns out is 50% HP or below.

[hollow ginkgo]

bolstering lantern is......... weird!

[lyric shale]

It's... pretty mid.

Good for REX! Not anyone else really though.

Noxious Thorn is even worse lol

The fact it is SO bugged

Can't do either effect properly. 😩

[hollow ginkgo]

i feel like noxious thorn would have been like. at least Alright

a lot of sots items feel really undertuned or overtuned almost no inbetween. except for like chronic expansion

and sonorous whispers is just a run winner

would be way more interesting if it had a downside of sorts

[lyric shale]

My take on the pickup wording for Thorn from UnifiedItemDescriptions mod... would be simplier if it just did both things at once tbh.

Thorn is just such a weird item tbh.

[hollow ginkgo]

wouldve been better as void razorwire or something i wonder why gb was so afraid to touch void items

also longstanding solitude just Sucks

[lyric shale]

Going to make Chronic and Echo same wording seen in UnifiedItemDescriptions mod, although Bolstering Lantern keeping as mentioning 50% HP since lower health is a weird spot in terms of items.

Since almost all "low health" items are 25% or below.

But for majority items yeah no need to mention specifics.

Although a few older ones do.

But yeah overall a lot of the new item pickup and logbook texts are just... off.

@brisk tree Prayer Beads only do Health, Regen, and Damage? But Growth Nectar does actually all stats?

[lyric shale]

Just use with Brittle Crown.

I do appreciate being able to see specific ranges and changes when it comes to items at least.

Instead of like "increases in knockup hit with stack"

Like how about give me a specific unit.

[narrow meadow]

i downpatched and launched from r2modman but my game kinda broken, like over half the survivors are missing assets

[lyric shale]

Huh... Lower priced chests?

Reset chests?

I guess it fits?

I do find it weird that Longstanding Solitude doesn't have the usual BUT seen in a lot of Lunar descriptions, so I just added that since it feels just right.

Nothing against Gearbox, but I do wish they put in more effort to keep pickup texts and logbook descriptions more fitting with previous ones.

But yeah @brisk tree I do appreciate your description and pickup text updates, I think they are well made.

[brisk tree]

it actually doesnt

it doesnt do armor lol

[lyric shale]

Oh for Growth Nectar?

[brisk tree]

no idea why i just didnt want to say all stats but armor

[lyric shale]

Fair.

[brisk tree]

thank you !

[lyric shale]

Why is there no love for armour.

[brisk tree]

it feels like it was intended to

so i wrote all

[stray silo]

So

[lyric shale]

But Prayer Beads is just as listed above?

[stray silo]

Why aren't my mods loading in even if I use them through thunderstore

[brisk tree]

yeah

[lyric shale]

Huh.

[brisk tree]

it also increases shields if your character gains shields per level

[lyric shale]

Odd?

[brisk tree]

yea just no cahracter does that

[lyric shale]

Sounds like a cut idea they had.

[brisk tree]

shield per level has always been in the game i think

at least since sotv, it just never gets used yet

[lyric shale]

Interesting...

You know... the icon for Antler Shield sucks.

If it was more angled it would look better imo.

[brisk tree]

yae it looks off

[lyric shale]

Also knockoff Mocha mod heh.

Which I actually prefer over regular Antlers (I think most people would tbh)

Appearance wise it looks too baller for a white item.

How does Prayer Beads even work exactly? Does it steal experience or just gain experience alongside you?

[brisk tree]

extra

its scaling was really hard for me to process so i jsut didnt list it

like in the stat gain

[lyric shale]

Basically: Remove item to get extra stats.

[brisk tree]

yea

[lyric shale]

Reminds me of the Weighted Anklet from Aetherium.

Get rid of in order to get boost.

Sale Star is even weirder since it can give like 3-5 items.

Speaking of Growth Nectar, kind of get they were going for "Death Mark but good for you" but I mean only a 20% stat boost for all stats is kinda low, especially for a condition based red.

Late game it is basically always active.

But the fact it cannot even do armour is a big blow.

It's like the devs are allergic to items that gives armour.

Unless it is like Irradiant Pearl, where it does boost armour but only if they already have base armour.

[brisk tree]

armr is hard to make interesting

same reason theres no passive healing items

its just kinda hard to be unique

[lyric shale]

Meanwhile RoR1 had Mysterious Vial and Tough Times. 😔

And yet you still exploded in that game so quickly. 😩

Just add in Super Idol from Mystic Items, more gold = more armour. 😎

How many items have improper descriptions from what they do?
Chronic Expansion, Antler Shield, Chance Doll, Unstable Transmitter, Noxious Thorn, War Bonds...
Some way worse than others.

Need a more that makes Noxious Thorn actually work properly.

Does anyone know if Chance Doll stack linearly or similar to like Tougher Times?

[jade prairie]

this one is interesting too

[lyric shale]

Yeah I was going to post that one.

If I had to guess, extra Shrine of Chance usage? Or would it have been like Sale Star and given two items at once on Shrine of Chance usage?

[brisk tree]

reset chests is almost definitely what artifact of delusion became

the item name is really close too imo

guessing of course but it feels right

[jade prairie]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1279865444790173878

[lyric shale]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[brisk tree]

yea this botherd me on those items

i used pingprovements to determine how high it was knocking a golem

it's roughly 15m +2.5m but like its not 100% accurate

the code doesnt go "ok push up 15m" its enemy body mass * 20 and some other stuff

[lyric shale]

Ah so heavier enemies go up less.

[brisk tree]

i think you could just make it 4 buffs like deathmark and it would be ok

[lyric shale]

Yeah true.

[brisk tree]

kind of its using THEIR mass

to apply velocity

i should test it more

[lyric shale]

Can Knockback Fin even apply to flying enemies? I never noticed it proc on any flying enemies.

[brisk tree]

nah they need to be grounded and capable of taking fall damage

[lyric shale]

I think Chance Doll we got is more interesting, if i wanted more extra shrine of chance usage I'd rather they just straight up add Black Monolith from Mystic Items.

[lyric shale]

Good to know, kind of what I expected.

Although woulda been funny launching wisps into space.

[lyric shale]

Also may Mystic Items rest in peace. 🫡

[brisk tree]

o7 mystic

[lyric shale]

A great shame really.

I will miss my Black Monolith. 😭

[lyric shale]

To be fair I also play with the BlacklistItems mod and just remove Knockback Fin from the game.

[brisk tree]

yeah.,.,

[lyric shale]

Alongside Transmitter, Thorn, and War Bonds.

[brisk tree]

i might talk with mystic about updating it

iif i get around to it

but also ror2 just being removed from russia is lame

[lyric shale]

Oh for sure.

Would be great to see it brought back.

Also miss the extra shrine mod from mystic.

[lyric shale]

Main reason Thorn and War Bonds I blacklist are just because of how bugged they are.

Reminds me of when Artifact Update dropped and Death Mark couldn't stack properly.

[brisk tree]

i really liked from omar with love

i think that's its name

[lyric shale]

Oh yeah Omar was a great equipment.

[brisk tree]

wait no

[lyric shale]

So was Wirehack Wrench.

[brisk tree]

it was wirehack wrench i think

yeahhh

both are cool

[lyric shale]

Both would be equipment I would be glad to be added into RoR2 officially.

I also really liked Nuclear Accelerator.

[brisk tree]

yeahy its cool

[lyric shale]

Gearbox shoulda stole all the cool modded items for the DLC smhhh

[brisk tree]

ive been saying this for months maybe years gearbox just repentencve the starstorm team

i dont think it would ever happen but it would be cool i would l ike to have working on ror2 be a job that would be kinda c ool

[lyric shale]

Yeah be cool to see.

Be cool if they just talked to the community and saw what items the community actually wanted and stuff.

[brisk tree]

stressful in a different way i think but it would be vcool

[lyric shale]

Oh for sure.

[lyric shale]

Instead of adding... an incredibly underwhelming damage reflection.

Art wise 10/10
Effect execution wise... 4/10.

I am sure there will be plenty of mods that rework the new items.

Surprisingly none for Knockback Fin yet.

[brisk tree]

i might try my hand at it

[lyric shale]

I think the overall idea of Knockback Fin just needs a complete rework, Knockback is incredibly not valuable and is more punishing for all of the melee characters, especially a knockup effect.

[brisk tree]

yeah their art team is incredible

the stages are so great

love the new swtage 5

this reads mildly sarcastic to me im being genuine here

[lyric shale]

Oh the art direction is fantastic in the new DLC.

It is just a shame that all the amazing visuals, music, and such is brought down by poor balancing, decisions, and bugs.

If I knew how to mod, I would make War Bond into a green tier item and make it just 25 Gold + 25 per stack.
Still not exactly super good but better than being an incredibly underwhelming red tier item.

Alternative make it like Smart Shopper but on steriods, but I think would be a little too close to Ghor's Tome at that point, so I think the Gold on stage entering would make it more unique.

Like as an effect it can work, money boost on a stage is nice for earlier in runs… but it's in the completely wrong item tier.

[lyric shale]

Heard some ideas, such as making it slam enemies back down onto the ground, boosting damage against enemies in the air, making it into void Stun Grenade…

[jade prairie]

My friend had a rebalance idea for almost every item and his idea for kb fin was just to enhance knockback moves lol

[lyric shale]

How many moves really knockback though?

You have REX’s utilities… Railgunner's default utility…

[jade prairie]

theres a mod that makes it impossible to aattack enemys

[jade prairie]

Mercenary, I believe commandos frag pushes things? Seekers default m2, I remember false sons stuff

[haughty leaf]

Holy shit yeah that's the longest profile name I've ever seen
Fun fact your friend managed to go 20 characters over the max windows filepath limit of 256-260 cause of that meme length profile lol

[raw kestrel]

should i start trying to play modded again? im not sure how many mods have ported over yet

[mellow fog]

I broke my game

incase you're wondering how fast my attack speed is, that says 6 billion

It's been like that for 10 minutes now

please help

[covert nebula]

i got the invincible mithrix bug, are there any console commands that can kill him off?

[haughty leaf]

If you don't already have DebugToolKit installed then no

Just mandatory in general given rallypoint delta can hardlock the run

And then aiblacklist to stop mithrix and scavs from being able to get the items that break the game like that

[pale current]

when gearbox dont got me
I know Modders got me
Amen 🙏

[stable fulcrum]

dum question can I use the downgraded/patched version of the game for this? I depoted the last version (iirc 1.2.24?) and was wondering if that will break mods that already updated...

[haughty leaf]

Mods work fine as long as you make sure they're for the correct game version

Any that updated to seekers will also need to be downgraded to the last pre-seekers build they released

[stable fulcrum]

how do i know which version that is

[haughty leaf]

On thunderstore every mod page has a versions tab. So long as you remember that seekers came out on the 27th you can figure out what isn't a seekers build from there

[full sable]

is the pathfinder survivor mod working?

[haughty leaf]

Not yet.They're going to take more work to fix than bogs other survivors did

[full sable]

oh thanks for the response. wish they just released pathfinder instead of seeker hahaha

[urban flame]

is there any word as to if people are working on implementing the new maps into the old patch, ot if that’s even acceptable as not copyright infringement lol

[haughty leaf]

it'd be abit of piracy to do so

[urban flame]

that’s a shame

best case scenario for pc honestly is we get the new maps plus like sale star and maybe one or two other items for the dlc just natively added to the pre patch version of the game

that’s all a man like me needs in life to be happy

[sly condor]

there's already a decent chunk of mods to fix a decent chunk of bugs, so assuming gearbox actually fixes most/any of them i don't think the game will be in too terrible of a state

[cursive solstice]

how successful are the sots fix mods?

[cobalt goblet]

How can I download that modpack to fix sots?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxtgvPimS8

[cobalt goblet]

including deltatime?

[jade oasis]

Is there a mod to make chef not such a piece of shit?

[normal orchid]

honestly, just buy the dlc.

asking for handouts is always such a pathetic gamer thing when in reality you're gonna spend $15 in exchange for countless hours of fun (regardless of bugs). Might as well support the devs

[mild ember]

i saw a mod that fixes his primary but for some reason not a single mod works for me?

any one got any idea why?

0191b276-bb4d-281c-b4fe-6153d519b5c9 this is my code

if anyone could offer help i would appricate it a lot <3

[crimson marten]

For whatever reason I can't run a multiplayer lobby with mods, my friend just gets kicked out of the lobby
0191b276-2dd7-c532-5b6d-321ecae6bb76 is pack's code, help very much appreciated

[crimson marten]

What do you mean mods don't work for you?

[mild ember]

i launch with mods and they don't work for some reason :(

[crimson marten]

Like no alt skills from StormySkills in that pack?

[haughty leaf]

Define exactly what not working means

Cause that's very vague and could be atleast 3 seperate outcomes

[mild ember]

yeah

[haughty leaf]

But it does tend to always be "Running mods that didn't update for the game patch you're on"

[mild ember]

like i laucnh the game but no mods are really showing, i try to REMOVE THE "new" FROM THAT DAMN LANTERN and it doesn't work as well

[steep bone]

Is there a way to make modded difficulties work currently?

[haughty leaf]

Well the lanterns a vanilla bug

[mild ember]

well yeah

i have a mod to fix it and it doesn't work

[haughty leaf]

But I'd suggest posting a logoutput from the game

It's alot easier to tell what's going on that way

[mild ember]

sorry if it's a stupid quetion but how do i do that

[haughty leaf]

I the case of this though MP issues like this are just ass and it means atleast one mod installed isn't MP compatiable

[crimson marten]

When you launch with mods console pop-ups

[haughty leaf]

On the mod manager: settings > locations > browse profile folder > bepinex folder > logoutput

[mild ember]

right

[haughty leaf]

You may need a discord role here though to paste it in

[crimson marten]

I checked every mod and I think they're all mp compatiable, not sure what's going on though

[haughty leaf]

Thinking and that being the case are two very different things

Even the most unlikely mod can break everything

[crimson marten]

Launched your pack and everything seems to work just fine

[mild ember]

really???

[haughty leaf]

Ok now 100% need the log

Cause that's either corrupt game isntall or corrupt mod download

[mild ember]

the log is just uh

isn't there

[haughty leaf]

Did the bepinex console even appear when you click launch modded on the mod manager?

[crimson marten]

May be a silly question, but are you sure you're clicking this?

[mild ember]

shows config, core, patches and plugings

[mild ember]

dw i understand that but yes i am sure

[haughty leaf]

You wouldn't have been the first that failed at clicking start modded in the past if that was the case lol

[mild ember]

i'd be so embarrassed

[haughty leaf]

As have the others in the past lol

But yeah does the console even show up at all?

Cause if that doesn''t then that leads to different solutions

[mild ember]

ok no it just doesn't work

maybe i should reinstall r2modman?

[haughty leaf]

Alright first things first

[mild ember]

it was awhile ago that i had it installed so maybe it's that

[haughty leaf]

Check settings > locations > change risk of rain 2 directroy. is that 100% where your game is currently installed from if you were to go and browse local files on steam

Especially if it was a while ago there''s a good chance you've change which drive ror2 is now on and the mod manager needs to reflect that

[mild ember]

yeah it's from steam

[haughty leaf]

But does the file path match

Is it EXACTLY the same

[mild ember]

ohh it was because i reinstalled the game on disc D

ok tsym

[haughty leaf]

That'll be it 😛

I've dealt with this with so many other people in the past which is why I insist hard on it lol

[mild ember]

good that you do lol

[full sable]

whats a good melee survivor mod?

[jade prairie]

anyone else having issues modding the down patched version?

[subtle geyser]

anyone know if stageaesthetic is ok with the new version?

[haughty leaf]

Seemingly appears ok from others using it outside of a bugged scorched acres variant which causes no interactables but that's been an issue with it for a long time

[astral pewter]

is it a common occurrence for false son to just not spawn in a modded run at the moment?

[lyric shale]

Wolfo QoL updated.

[median sun]

is there any mod that tweaks damage of false son boss? even with the fps fixes it doesnt seem to change him vaporising me

[urban flame]

I bought the dlc, played it for 15 hours, and refunded it cuz it was shit except for the maps, hence why I want the maps on the old game mechanics. Not asking for free handouts, simply asking for a finished product!

[arctic palm]

im tryna mod downpatched version of the game, but whenever i launch it through modman, it goes to the newer version of the game. ANyone know any fixes for this?

[urban flame]

if you launch the game through steam directly does it launch the vanilla downpatch version?

[arctic palm]

no

ive been using a folder and launching the game via that

[urban flame]

that’s why, your mod manager is going to the steam launch location by default. So you either need to replace your steam files with the downpatch files, or point your mod manager specifically to the downpatch folder you have

Probably easier to just copy and paste the downpatch files into the existing steam game folder so you don’t have to point all the mod stuff to new directories

[arctic palm]

how would i replace the files? im kinda dumb with this stuff lol

[urban flame]

Copy them from the downpatch folder and paste them into the steam game folder, then when prompted say “replace files in this destination”

[haughty leaf]

You could also just have the two game folders sitting next to each other and rename the folder of the one you want to play "Risk of Rain 2"

[arctic palm]

nah dw i figured it out]

[whole tusk]

hey question, may be the wrong chat, does anyone know what the Additional Health stat that items like bison steak, infusion, knurl, or stone flux contribute to? or rather, does anyone know what value False Son's Growth comes from?

I'm trying to figure out the HP threshold to get a new stack of spikes

[vivid dock]

arethe modders going to save us since GBX can'tlol

[modern flint]

anyone know when the wartank will be fixed

[graceful yew]

Same lol

[slim pagoda]

so my load screen is stuck at 99% when I load the game modded, anyone else has this issue?

[versed sinew]

Do you ever feel like False Son is a bit too human looking?

Well do I have a mod and video for you!

https://fxtwitter.com/Tail__Lover/status/1830616718139621799

[haughty leaf]

Likely running the wrong version of mods for the wrong game update you're playing on

[slim pagoda]

I updated all of them before launching, might make a new folder and try a few at a time

[haughty leaf]

a mod being at it's most recent version does not mean it's been updated for seekers

[slim pagoda]

okay that's true

[haughty leaf]

Plenty of 2 year old mods that are "updated" by that logic 😛

[pastel cloud]

now that all 16 character slots are filled, how are character mods gonna format their menu?

[haughty leaf]

With https://thunderstore.io/package/KingEnderBrine/ScrollableLobbyUI/

[pastel cloud]

do they add another row or does it let you scroll it?

ohhhh that makes sense, thank you

[haughty leaf]

A solved problem for many a year 😛

The funnier question is how are gearbox going to solve it with DLC3 since right now it overflows the ui

[slim pagoda]

(it did work now after looking through and removing old mods)

[pastel cloud]

thank you, modders. very cool

[cerulean flax]

does false son just not spawn if you have mods on or something?

[keen plover]

mods for beginners?

also mods is a whole diff serer right

u can only play mods with mods ppl

[kindred copper]

Not sure if this is the best place for this question but here we go.
Any idea how to launch the game with mods via Thunderstore without updating the game? (I am pre Devotion update). Froze downloads via steam by setting appmanifest to read only, but trying to launch game via thunderstore causes game to automatically start updating.

[ruby shard]

does nayone know a mod to fix the director?

[urban flame]

You might need to update then just down patch. If you make a copy of your current game folder then paste it back into the folder once steam updates the game then it’ll revert you back to whatever patch you’re on

and if you do it that way you can use the mod manager like normal too

[kindred copper]

Ty !

[urban flame]

Just of course also make sure all your mods are compatible with whatever game version you’re on

[slim pagoda]

idk if it was a mod (I only have QoL mods) or the base game, but my current stage has NOTHING, not even the teleporter

[urban flame]

I had that happen to me a while back too but I still don’t know what caused it lol

[shadow sigil]

for some reason this mod breaks my game and makes me and every enemy invincible

[supple elm]

Are there any mods that add more skins or maybe progression to unlock new stuff?

[hollow ginkgo]

if it hasnt been updated for sots that'd be why

unless youre downpatched if that's the case then i cannot help you

[shadow sigil]

that explains it

but its weird cause its a jump pad mod

[pastel cloud]

i'm not sure if this is an issue with a mod i'm using but for some reason mul-t's cluster bomb just breaks enemy ai

you stun them once and they stay in place forever

[hollow ginkgo]

game logic changed almost entirely keep that in mind

the vast majority of mods are not functioning right rn

unless a mod is updated you shouldnt expect it to function properly

[wide slate]

just got ror2 recently
gonna try down patching by following the instructions on the pin of this channel
wish me luck im not good with this stuff

depot still hasn't finished downloading..

odd.

its only like 1.6 GB

oh ok its done

this might undo my progress but whatever

i've got like 2 hours of playtime on this game either way

ok i think i've done it correctly

i saved the gearbox patch in another folder instead of deleting in case i need it for anything else

it says ver 1.2.4.4
i think i did it right

[rough widget]

anyone got a mod that adjusts some of the new multiplayer scaling? it feels alot more intense than it previously did

[fossil wasp]

nah it should be alright cause theyre stored somewhere else

[wide slate]

WAIT YOU'RE HERE TOO??

WHAT?!!

[fossil wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751129736167686334/1228731358222880768/ezgif.com-resize_1.gif

[royal vessel]

yo anyone got a modpack that is simply for SOTS bug fixes, dont care to have things like removing twisted elites i just want bug fixes

[cyan dawn]

Hey, is anyone without SotS having problems modding the game? I can mod it just fine but a friend of mine is unable to

[nimble marlin]

i think you can just install SOTSfixer, storm tweaks and fixSotsV2 and uninstall the mods you don't want (one of them has twisted elite remover)

[steep bone]

Are there any mods that make it possible to select modded difficulties?