ror2-modding

[rough widget]

like making the water more transparent

[echo temple]

oh I should probably add sivs

and supply drop

to the content mods tierlist

[prisma oracle]

sivs is neat

[willow oasis]

I totally dont use all these at once I swear 😼

@echo temple

[pale zealot]

here is mine

[willow oasis]

im not kidding btw

10/10 would recommend

[echo temple]

I wanna put sivsitems in A but it adds know thy enemy so I don't know if I can do that

know thy enemy will forever be my most hated item forever due to stockholm syndrome

remember when it wasn't even green wov it was just literally the dumbest item ever

[pale zealot]

what does know thy enemy do?

[echo temple]

you deal 300% more damage to elites you share the same elite type as

and for the longest time it was either know thy enemy or classicitems

for the item mods

[willow oasis]

am I cancer for using literally like every item mod at once

[echo temple]

no you're smxrez

[willow oasis]

true

its good ngl

just disable the hot steaming trash

I have like 3 and a half pages of items so its not bad]

[echo temple]

I should add riskymod tbh tbh

[pale zealot]

10/10

[tender pebble]

Fogbound gotta be S tier

[mossy lagoon]

truer

[willow oasis]

so true

[rough widget]

we need more good map mods like fogbound

[echo temple]

nuketown stage

[rough widget]

i only like mods that have a similar artstyle to the base game

[echo temple]

and uh A moment hollow 😼

[prisma oracle]

oh god no

[tender pebble]

Me when it takes 30 minutes to complete a stage

[echo temple]

wdym a moment hollow was like the most working real thing ever

[prisma oracle]

yeah it might have worked but being in the stage made my eyes stop working

[echo temple]

hey mystic you should like save me time and send me like the icons of the new mysticitems

[tender pebble]

You sleep texting?

[echo temple]

btw do any other icons in the tierlist template look like they need adjustment like sunrise where it's really fat

[pale zealot]

will you add the vanilla items in the tier list or just all modded items?

[lavish dew]

what is sunrise even supposed to be i always thought it was infusion but camouflaged

[pale zealot]

I think it's a smoothie

[full garnet]

weird green juice

probably made with lots of Green

[echo temple]

one day someone will get the reference

[timid swallow]

this actually
388 item pack was fun
the problem were unstable frames

[full garnet]

there is no item bloat if you simply turn off all vanilla items

[acoustic raft]

no they wont :)

[echo temple]

HAHHAHAHA

[mossy lagoon]

ok I think this is good enough for me

[echo temple]

goldcoastplus in C :(

I really think goldcoastplus is super cool

just nerf the items a little bit

[mossy lagoon]

true true

[timid swallow]

wait is that fucking hailstorm

[echo temple]

yes

[mossy lagoon]

though the in game descriptions don't reflect config changs

[timid swallow]

it was in my first ever modpack my friend gave me

I remember it having wacky elites

[echo temple]

yes

[timid swallow]

did it add anything else?

[echo temple]

it added mimics

[timid swallow]

OH RIGHT

[mossy lagoon]

yes it's kind of a meme

[echo temple]

they ate your items and then ran away

it was so based

[timid swallow]

just like starstorm mimics🥹

[mossy lagoon]

real

[echo temple]

I swear supply drop gets dropped like so much because of the numbing berries icon

and model

[mossy lagoon]

remember the bone shard

[timid swallow]

when phreel is gonna finally drop the supply drop guh

[echo temple]

hardened bone fragments also got a really stupid buff yeah

[timid swallow]

oh yeah invincibility the item

[echo temple]

when it was opal but balanced it was fine

[timid swallow]

R-MOR the item

it had fun shield items ngl

[echo temple]

yeah I liked salvaged wires and unassuming tie

[mossy lagoon]

bubbets has a void item that's basically numbing berries now

scintillating jet I think

[echo temple]

ok but that requires bubbets

[mossy lagoon]

void opal

[timid swallow]

sivs items and risk of ruina had their own numbing berries

[mossy lagoon]

yes

[echo temple]

dude the gain armor upon taking damage item has existed like 20 times

[mossy lagoon]

yes

I honestly like it best as void opal

[echo temple]

cloudburst armor thing
bubbet void opal
hex3 void scorpion
numbing berries
what else

[acoustic raft]

ok I think I would like anything as void opal because opal is like

[mossy lagoon]

also bubbets is good bc config epic

[full garnet]

risk of ruina after giving the enemies udjat mask on void fields (Oh Fuck)

[willow oasis]

Stormy items sits weird with me
Halo is good
Anchor is just bungus but damage so it suffers the game issues
Urchin is op
Talon or what ever the void item is called is kinda weak and boring

[timid swallow]

yeah but then donkey

[mossy lagoon]

talon is not weak

wtf

who cares a shit about donkey

talon is epic except for the model

or icon whatever

[timid swallow]

it's stupid I don't want it in my game

[echo temple]

abyssal talon is super good yeah

[willow oasis]

Is the one with the golden coast picture and the red x golden coast plus? Because it doesn’t have that x or is it something else

[echo temple]

the 'x' is a plus

[willow oasis]

Vision issue mode

[mossy lagoon]

pretend that one is in b

[willow oasis]

Golden coast is B for me possibly low A

Also add umbral mithrix too that

[echo temple]

no he sucks

[mossy lagoon]

does that count as a content mod

[willow oasis]

You have to constantly be in the air and it’s l low compared too stuff like watch and Crystal consitering you have to be jumping

[pale zealot]

add it so you can put it in d tier

[echo temple]

I only count things that add 3-5+ things depending on how large the things they add are
I should probably add nuketown a moment hallow and distant lagoon tbh

because stages are large enough

[mossy lagoon]

trueeee

[echo temple]

but single item mods like resonance field generator or expansive orb I don't add

[willow oasis]

Why does umbral suck?

[mossy lagoon]

fucking rip

[willow oasis]

Or do you mean golden coast?

[echo temple]

because you disable plated elites

[mossy lagoon]

a moment hallow and distant lagoon are goated

[pale zealot]

plated elites disabled themselves

[echo temple]

true

[willow oasis]

What does that have to do with anything

[echo temple]

distant lagoon yes
a moment hallow?

[mossy lagoon]

I liked it

the lighting didn't bother me too much

[echo temple]

A moment hallow was eye cancer and it had 3 interactables every time and no tp boss theme

[mossy lagoon]

I play with music off so idk

[pale zealot]

what about blocky lagoon?

[mossy lagoon]

interactables? it had them

[echo temple]

it had like 3 spawn

[mossy lagoon]

yo blocky lagoon rip

Minecraft real

[echo temple]

blocky lagoon was way too small lmao

[mossy lagoon]

it was perfect

[echo temple]

I like how 3/5 non forgottenrelics stage mods have lagoon in them

[acoustic raft]

all like 12 frames of moment hollow that I got looked pretty cool

[mossy lagoon]

lol

[echo temple]

💀

[timid swallow]

actually tho how many usable items has bubbets
jellied soles is real on e3
downscaled gem carapace
hourglass but I'd rather choc chip
torturer???....
escape plan is good movement hot damn
acid soaked bandana is fun
sprouted and jet are cool but the rest of void items either copium about broken items/look like shit/significantly weaker than the original/dumb and not how I envisioned it

[mossy lagoon]

I swear the fps bug got fixed by the time I played

[pale zealot]

is lagoon like an inside joke or something?

[echo temple]

tarnished

[timid swallow]

void lunars are fun ngl

[echo temple]

I can't really enjoy the void lunars at all idk

they serve no purpose

[timid swallow]

tarnished is just a sole failure

[mossy lagoon]

what's tarnished again

[pale zealot]

void lunars are just lunars why are they void?

[timid swallow]

i mean yeah they don't change a lot of stuff about your run

[echo temple]

because he was made in abyss!

[timid swallow]

but I just like that I'm given an option to go get something wacky for this new currency I got from new event

[timid swallow]

first 50 times you hit something you are guaranteed to proc everything and after that -1 luck

[mossy lagoon]

oh yeah that is an item

[pale zealot]

wait I thought it was plus 1 luck for 100 hits then minus -1 luck

[willow oasis]

Isn’t it 100

[mossy lagoon]

also I thought it was +1 luck for 50 hits then -1 until the next stage

[timid swallow]

yeah like that

[mossy lagoon]

it's 50 but I configured it to 100

bc

the balance

[echo temple]

imagine alt universe where there were no configs at all

everyone becomes rein

[mossy lagoon]

I would jump off a cliff into traffic

[timid swallow]

but yeah it would be so much cooler if it downgraded the items but then idk what would be the positive effect

[mossy lagoon]

gives you a little kiss

[timid swallow]

😳

[echo temple]

when is rogue wisp coming back but like as the impostor so it's actually called amog wisp

[mossy lagoon]

the voices

rezerolike

[echo temple]

what is sages book

[mossy lagoon]

it makes it so when you die the next run you do you only get ceremonial probe

[echo temple]

oh so like return by death

[timid swallow]

return by barrier decay

[echo temple]

what if ceremonial probe proc'd bands

[pale zealot]

you ever have a dream where you go about your day then when you finally go to sleep in your dream you actually wake up and your day goes very similar to how your dream was?

[echo temple]

no I know what sages book is

sages book is a reference to re zeros return by death

the joke is breadguy said he watched it and then asked "what is return by death"

[pale zealot]

re zero just dreams bro haven't you read the manga

[echo temple]

it has no manga

[pale zealot]

actually?

[echo temple]

Actually it does its just behind the anime

[pale zealot]

ok got it

[echo temple]

Pretty funny

[timid swallow]

visual novels be like

[echo temple]

Did you know it has this thing called the blood orange (it's a calamity reference)

[timid swallow]

no urop it's an rnb artist...m

[echo temple]

So doomdoze when are you making the mod in abyss and it's like a made in abyss reference and it references the season 2 toilet

No it has like 6

[timid swallow]

IL hook on voidling to make him make a voidlinglingling?

[mossy lagoon]

the return by death thing doesn't even happen until the 2nd episode I only watched 1 when my cousin first showed me so I explode you now

[echo temple]

If you count forgotten relics and spikestrip 2.0 as one (they basically are )Sun Blade, grooves alarm, abyssal cartridge, torpor, sages book, uhhhhh probably one more I'm forgetting about

[echo temple]

It happens in the first?

Guh?

[mossy lagoon]

huh???

[pale zealot]

doesn't he die in the first then return in the second?

[echo temple]

Oh wait did you only watch like half

The 1st episode is 40 minutes long

[mossy lagoon]

yes that's two episodes

[echo temple]

No its one

[mossy lagoon]

well it's split on CR or whatever I watched it on

[echo temple]

Ok well the anime site is dumb

Otherwise the show would be 51 episodes currently

And 51 is a stupid number so I say fake

[mossy lagoon]

so true

I gave it 3 episodes and it's still anime so I no watch

[echo temple]

[echo temple]

breadguy since you like anime so much I have this recommendation for you called Getting EXTREME LUCK Against Hacked Decks by Fry Em Up Gaming

[mossy lagoon]

I'm not going to play that

[timid swallow]

waiting for gotce wave 3 to do another dumb kka tournament

[echo temple]

Laser scope tweaks

[willow oasis]

I love 1 shooting the stage 1 boss with bandit and bands

[echo temple]

I swear bandit feels like he came out 2 weeks ago or something

[willow oasis]

huh

[echo temple]

Yeah as one of the 2 people who still plays this game I go oh hey new character bandit!

[willow oasis]

I love rng

huh

what do yall think is more balanced for this item from tinkers

also @short pendant somebody in the thunderstore cord said you made the bazaar do this is that true

its very cool

if something burns it can apply the other 2 so its kinda crazy

make it do that always its cool

maybe make it less chrismasy

also this has 0 downsides for railgunner and bandit

still prob 2 right? cuz getting alot of stacks would be crazy strong

[hollow wyvern]

I was going to say railgunner still has a downside, but the upside counteracts it lol

[supple ingot]

how get r2modman on Linux

[grizzled anchor]

railr when her passive is a downside

[grizzled anchor]

r2modman has an appimage

[supple ingot]

hmm

[grizzled anchor]

thunderstore package has both a windows executable and linux appimage

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[steady rapids]

Is woolie’s mod guide still a good way to learn how to download and use mods?

[grizzled anchor]

its the one good guide woolie has

[steady rapids]

the one good guide?

[willow oasis]

woolie

[grizzled anchor]

woolie

[supple ingot]

now to remember what mods I had

trying to remember all the client side ones I had

[willow oasis]

what the fuck is this run

I just got another

[neon mirage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031004880745275442/1051620209879953439/oo_oh_boogie_oh_yeah_oo.gif

Ayo Fogbound A+ consistently across the board lets fucking gooo

glad people are having a good time

[willow oasis]

my only complaint is the water is kinda annoying sometimes

but I also love the water

love hate relationship

[neon mirage]

that was the full intention

its working

[supple ingot]

got to love playing modded and the mods don't load

[neon mirage]

im very picky

[prisma oracle]

aw Jace did it now I gotta do it

[neon mirage]

and even in the "I enjoy" category I dont really play with either

mostly vanilla for me honestly

havent played a content mod that fully clicked with me yet

and the only time i play fbl is when i test it or im playing with friends, i cant really enjoy it lol

because i literally know everything about the map its not as special for me lol

[prisma oracle]

where did you hide him Jace...

tell me...

[neon mirage]

be quiet

[prisma oracle]

the j

[frail fern]

vanilla void is based

has some funnies in it too like clockwork mechanism

[jade prairie]

im new to modded how do you join a modded server?

[wanton rock]

get the same mods as them (done with a mod code), and then join normally (assuming you use join clipboard lobby)

[jade prairie]

thanks

[dusky pumice]

so im using r2 modman to mod ror2, and i installed the goku mod and everything else with the dependencies , started a modded game but goku is not there

[dusky pumice]

could someone help me

oh nvm

[willow oasis]

Enfucker 😼

(Look at icon)

[torpid zinc]

enforcer my beloved

[rough widget]

one helluva good bandit run

i got lucky in so many departments

[willow oasis]

this item is op its funny

[rough widget]

yea i noticed that

im gonna nerf it in the configs if possible

if not im turning it off

also i realised how powerful void fields are

generally, if you go to void fields once u complete stage 4

[willow oasis]

I have it as 2 +1 per stack

[rough widget]

you get another stage's worth of items
then you head to sky meadows (and potentially) can get a scavenger spawn

[rough widget]

im setting it to just 1

[willow oasis]

Might do 1 +1 consitering it’s a white

[rough widget]

this item is nuts

[willow oasis]

Tinkers satchel 😼

[rough widget]

i kinda steamroleld this run cause i got
-clover
-lightning aspect
-dios
-brittle crown
-voidsent s1

[willow oasis]

Don’t use lunars 😼

That’s what I do I don’t use em

[rough widget]

brittle crown is my favorite lunar

[willow oasis]

Well sometimes

[rough widget]

shaped glass is honestly sucha cracked ass item

i only took it cause i had the blank slates

i also got bandit mastery off that (lol)

what makes me kinda mad about that run tho

is stage 2 & 3 had tons of yellow printers

including a shatter spleen

but i never got a yellow

[willow oasis]

Skill diff

[slow canopy]

What the heck is this and why does it yeet me into space when I move within 20 feet of it?
I have WhatAmILookingAt installed and it won't identify this thing. I want to disable this thing.

[timid swallow]

just dont move witin 2 feet of it

gravity mines do that kinda stuff

[echo temple]

oof

[vernal lance]

[slow canopy]

BRUH

[echo temple]

skill issue 😼

[slow canopy]

I'm getting the distinct feeling this isn't the chat to ask help from. XD

[echo temple]

hazards are based though

you can lure enemies into them and they die epic style

makes you have to have a bit more awareness

[slow canopy]

Okay yeah that's fair. Now if I can stop being jackhammered into the earth when I entered a stage that would be great.
Still don't know which mod adds it because it doesn't register.

[lavish lily]

is starstorm buggy?

[slow canopy]

More just I end up in situations where I can't get away from the gravity mines, especially if they are in a weird spot just out of sight. The more common problem is being blocked from collecting items (if you also use Command, the item is a write off), though I've never seen them trigger with enemies as I'm more likely to outright die or get setback from losing most of my health and being placed in annoying locations from warping back.

For the love of god, DO NOT bring momentum into the picture if you aren't a fan of being instakilled or infinitely looped between the sky and the earth.

...All of that being said, an artifact for exclusively gravity mines sounds like pure hilarity and a test for if you know the precise radius it activates.

[echo temple]

the mines go on a cooldown when activated though

you have plenty of time to pick them even in command

[slow canopy]

You'd really think so

[echo temple]

I mean they go on cooldown for like what 10 seconds

that's plenty of time

and they only launch you like 10 meters into the air

[slow canopy]

Didn't realize Low-Earth Orbit was only 10 meters.

No joke though the knockback on these things are actually insane.

Kicked out of boundaries and teleported a distance away that is either more than 10 seconds of travel time or risks getting me killed via fall damage.

[echo temple]

🤨

at most they send you this high

[slow canopy]

That is NOT how they act in my game, what the hell

[haughty leaf]

Mul-t moment?

[echo temple]

you must be getting a bug or something then

[haughty leaf]

I get launched to lol

The answer to what adds them though is Forgotten Relics 😛

[echo temple]

yeah commando is like the exact same what

[haughty leaf]

[echo temple]

some mod incompat must be breaking them or something

[haughty leaf]

When I get time later I'll see if I can figure out what's going on in my list then

Imb4 that also ends up fixing Lightning rods essentially doing 90%+ of my hp as well

[slow canopy]

The lightning rods I actually don't mind.

[echo temple]

watch this be the true reason why people just had issues with plated elites they just have some bug that makes them garbage

[haughty leaf]

Only thing that's wrong with plateds atleast on my end is that they're orange now lol

[echo temple]

yeah no that bug is smo real

[haughty leaf]

I'm guessing it's the funny r2api split thats broke them

Well "Broke" them since they work fine anyway

[echo temple]

yeah it was the api split

[slow canopy]

Here's my modlist. Mostly for testing purposes.

[haughty leaf]

But yeah Grav mines for me are basically trying to imitate Skyrims Giant Space Launch program atm lol

[slow canopy]

Exactly lol

[haughty leaf]

I figured it was intentional since Lightning Rods basically 1 shot you lol

[echo temple]

I wonder what mod does that

do the hazards have like long cooldowns for you guys

[haughty leaf]

Longish yeah

[slow canopy]

Lightning yes, Mines probably?

[haughty leaf]

Though I think the Rod needs something more obvious than a deeply saturated blue to indicate it's charged

[echo temple]

plasma plans on adding a subtle range indicator

[slow canopy]

Wait, there's indicators?

[echo temple]

he plans on adding one

[slow canopy]

Ah

[haughty leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567832879879553037/1056261944719450203/image.png

[echo temple]

oh yeah the lightning rods have an effect to show they're charged

[haughty leaf]

Took someone pointing it out to me to actually try and look for it lol

[slow canopy]

Even now I can barely see it. It's there but omg I wouldn't notice it when I'm trying not to die from enemies.

[frail fern]

they sent me sky high before the split

[pale zealot]

Christmas is dead, it's no longer snowing on the title screen

[haughty leaf]

Nah that was in relation to the Plated Elites becoming orange

[frail fern]

cuh my eyes stay closed when I read stuff mb

[haughty leaf]

Imagine anyone on the internet actually reading. I know I don't 🙂

[frail fern]

I can also add that veiled elites are also orange

[haughty leaf]

Yeah so probably the split then that murdered their colour

[frail fern]

elite ramps decimated live

[haughty leaf]

All Elites shall conform to the true colour. Individuality is dead

[pale zealot]

Spiketrip Elites became the very thing they hated, Blazing

[haughty leaf]

I like how I'm trying to actually find the grav mines now for testing and they just don't exist now

Found one. So in my list I get yeeted from the ground to the roost bridge

However MUL-T does not get yeeted

[haughty leaf]

Did alittle testing. Mul-T is too heavy to be yeeted but Mando gets launched lol

[pale zealot]

do characters have weight?

[haughty leaf]

Loader gets higher but can't reach the bridge like mando

I guess they must or maybe the something funky with collision hulls?

[pale zealot]

the wiki lists a stat called mass and says that Acrid is the heaviest while commando and most of the cast are the lightest

[haughty leaf]

Oh yeah that's deffo true

ACrid gets like half the height of even Mul-t

[pale zealot]

Acrid has 300 mass, MUL-T has 200, Merc, Loader and REX have 150

[haughty leaf]

So yeah not bug just Physics lol

[pale zealot]

can you test Railgunner and Void Fiend since the wiki doesn't have their Mass?

[haughty leaf]

Railgunner gets yeeted more than mando I think LOL

[pale zealot]

maybe she has less weight to work better with her mines

[haughty leaf]

Probably

Void fiend is a pain to spawn as lol

I'm going to assume he's mando weight cause this is actual suffering trying to get it to work

So yeah "problem" solved. It's just physics being physics 😛

[pale zealot]

I'm gonna assume I was playing Railgunner the day I decided to disable hazards

[grizzled anchor]

body names work aswell

VoidSurvivorBody for void fiend

most survivors are just their name followed by body except rex mul-t bandit and arti who are TreebotBody ToolbotBody Bandit2Body and MageBody

[haughty leaf]

Yeah guess I just got used to debugtoolkit letting me be lazy

Though even copy pasting the name for fiend didn't make it work lol

[dense trout]

The name lookup of stuff is being worked on atm

[torn hornet]

Since this was a thing i feel like throwing my hat in the ring here. Only included mods ive actually played with

• Released from the void really shows why its content was left on the cutting room floor. Void coins serve little purpose, the boss isnt enjoyable and assassins are just obnoxious
• Spikestrip has some of the most annoying and obnoxious elites ive ever seen. The projecticle reflect make artifcer damn near unplayable. None of the new items are standout and are mostly awful and one of the new enemies do virtually nothing, the other is complete bs. When i having to disable half a mods contents to enjoy a run, its not a good mod.
• Bubbets is held up by a lot of good ideas and void items. Theres a lot of stinkers. Far too many items do the exact same thing (theres like 4 items that all just reduce barrier decay.)
• Mystics items arent really that good, and since its all it does, theres never really a reason for me to use it.
• I have a lot of complaints about SOTV, but none of them really make it worse than other mods. Its not an amazing dlc, but it still shines above a lot of others.

[haughty leaf]

SHoutouts to mystics Shrine of the legend 🙂

[willow oasis]

Starstorm in S 💀

Spikestrip in D 💀

Mystic in C 💀

Bubbets in B 💀

[haughty leaf]

Personally I enjoy SS2 but uh general sentiment seems to be more negative than that towards it at times lol

[pale zealot]

starstorm 2 just needs a few updates to polish some old ideas

[haughty leaf]

This is probably "One Guy" syndrome happening but when you see "Just let it die" as a genuine response to it.. yeah...

[pale zealot]

I have no idea what One Guy syndrome is and I have never heard someone say Just let it die for starstorm 2

[haughty leaf]

Seen it every now and then on modding discord but that probably is genuinely just one guy and that's one I've picked out of the crowd

[willow oasis]

Starstorm is ehh

It has a lot of really weird / mid items

[haughty leaf]

Maybe a couple but honestly that's worth elaborating on since unlike ror2, ss2 actually is getting updated

[willow oasis]

survs are also very unpolished

[pale zealot]

new nemando looking hot

[haughty leaf]

Wont be the case for Nemmando soon 🙂

As someone that actually has played it atleast

[willow oasis]

I have like 18 items disabled

[haughty leaf]

So like 60%

[willow oasis]

ss2 has 29

so yea more than half

[haughty leaf]

But yeah something like that absolutely should be elaborated on since I'm sure the dev team actually would like feedback on their work other than "It's bad I turned it off/uninstalled lmao"

[willow oasis]

Coffee bag - Really dumb mechanic having it be activated for 60s of the start of a stage thats really short and really wont get much use

Diary - almost useless tbh

[haughty leaf]

No need to link images btw 😛

[willow oasis]

Fork - EXTREAMLY weak prob the weakest item ive ever seen +2 base damage is a joke

[willow oasis]

its mainly for ppl who forget what they look like and remember what it is based on how it looks

[haughty leaf]

Fair but you could just link the wiki then for that cross ref 😛

[willow oasis]

https://github.com/TeamMoonstorm/Starstorm2/wiki/Items

[pale zealot]

I have to disagree with fork, the fact that increases base damage makes it good with bleed and other things not affected by normal damage ups

[willow oasis]

at like stage 5 I have 100 base damage from all my stuff and picking up a fork adds like 4 or summ

[torn hornet]

SS2 has a lot of crap items. Maybe a bit generous giving it the high tier as I forgot just how many of them I disable
Coffee bag even beaks the game atm if the enemies get it.
But it has two pretty neat survivors and there's definitely more decent items than god awful ones.

[wanton rock]

I've only seen hyper say let it die but i've seen like 30 people who dislike it for various reasons

[willow oasis]

id rather use hex3 glasss

Hunter's Sigil - bungus but armor and crit chance so it suffers the same shit as bungus and its a green so free green scrap

[haughty leaf]

Yeah ss2s main problem is that the updates come out slow

Yes

[torn hornet]

If SS2 only had items, I wouldn't have it more than C or b honestly

[haughty leaf]

Cause all Calcs start at Base

[willow oasis]

no Im pretty sure I remember it still giving 2 even at high base damage

thats why shard of glass is just better

[haughty leaf]

I'm about to start testing this shit

Cause this will be really easy

[torn hornet]

But please someone tell me.
Why do people keep giving Spikestorm a high rating?

[willow oasis]

Prototype Jet Boots - pretty weak only useful on some survs

thats better than 2 more base damage once you go farther in the game

Watch Metronome - this is way to fast and I just dont like the mechanics

[torn hornet]

True but this applies to a lot of green items in base ROR2.
It's kinda why I don't mind SS2. It's items for the balance white well

[haughty leaf]

Remember when Fork used to be 7% more damage and it got nerfed for being too op? lol

[wanton rock]

Ss2 needles make DOTs crit and thats funny

[torn hornet]

It really should be a bit higher.
Like 5 damage maybe since it is a white item still

[haughty leaf]

Rember it's supposed to be base damage not flat added

It's not +2 at the end (Ideally)

[willow oasis]

the coffee bag and diary and fork in question:

[haughty leaf]

It's supposed to be +2 at the start

[full garnet]

needle is threading (hah) a fine line between completely busted for a white and completely useless

it either over or underperforms and thats just how it be

[willow oasis]

Baby's Toys - just a really boring concept

[wanton rock]

+2 is still weak compared to frystal and watch

[torn hornet]

Needle is op on anyone with even marginal good proc.
A lot of the items need tuning

[willow oasis]

Droid Head - this item is fine ngl just not a fan

[haughty leaf]

Speaking off lol

[willow oasis]

also the fact that I have to instal another mod to disable ss2 shit is kinda

[haughty leaf]

(Apple is behind that)

[torn hornet]

Honestly I was a bit generous with SS2 just because it includes more than just items.

[full garnet]

granted even in ss1 needles is already OP

[willow oasis]

Nkota's Heritage - literally free legendarys and greens

[torn hornet]

If I took that into consideration, half the item moods would be down a peg

[haughty leaf]

Configs can come eventually but SS2 has been through so much of a shitshow dev wise lol

[willow oasis]

Portable Reactor - same thing as coffee bag really dumb

[pale zealot]

Relic of Termination: free everything

[full garnet]

ESPECIALLY in ror1 because drones criting and needing one proc

[willow oasis]

99% of good item mods have a config

[pale zealot]

I think drones also crit with needles in ror2

[haughty leaf]

Also I find it alittle funny due to how much I hear of epople being too lazy to config lol

[wanton rock]

Most item mods have a config

[full garnet]

yeah but drones are like 30% of your dps in ror1

[willow oasis]

Swift Skateboard - just sorta weak + I just dont like and I have a mod that lets me almost do omnidirectional sprint

[torn hornet]

SS2 doesn't let you disable items which is a bitch but most items can be buffed or needed manually to fix them.

[wanton rock]

Hell GOTCE is getting a config

[willow oasis]

ss2 is like the only mod that cant disable items

[haughty leaf]

Because doing it in their code literally breaks the mod lol

[willow oasis]

relic of mass - literally just a vanilla item but slightly diffrent

[haughty leaf]

*better

[wanton rock]

Relic of mass came first

[full garnet]

drones in ror2 are not nearly as important as in ror1, so ease of finding it, the effects and how much damage it ramps is what makes it busted

[torn hornet]

Honestly forgot that.
Knock it down a peg in my list honestly I forgot that was a problem

[willow oasis]

Relic of Termination - really really dumbshit

Stirring Soul - can only be get from killing nem survs and shit so you never get it ngl

Greater Warbanner - buggy

[torn hornet]

Termination breaks simulacrum in half

[pale zealot]

I'm fairly sure that's how they plan to do it

[willow oasis]

Pressurized Canister - buggy and gooffy

[haughty leaf]

Can is buggy??

[full garnet]

(you never get it because the bossfights werent fixed yet)

[haughty leaf]

Since when

[willow oasis]

M.I.D.A.S. - ehh I just dont like it

[torn hornet]

Yeah it doesn't work in multiplayer at all

[willow oasis]

not buggy more like super janky and doesnt work in multiplayer

[haughty leaf]

I see

[wanton rock]

Can is funny i aprove

[full garnet]

((but its made to be busted because you fight nemmando who has a very high chance of beaming you))

[torn hornet]

Same with war banner and relic of termination

[haughty leaf]

I wonder if people reported that or is this just something the devs have to instinctively know like a bunch of other things people don't tell them lol

War banner I think i sactually fixed on dev builds

[torn hornet]

Most of that stuff has been afaik

[willow oasis]

the best item mod is either hex3mod or vanilla void

mysticitems is close but those 2 are the kings

[torn hornet]

Vanilla void is fucking poggeed up

The fact it fixes a major issue of sotv is a huge boon

[wanton rock]

Mystics, aetherium, hex3 and vanilla void are my top 4

[pale zealot]

vanilla void is the goat

[willow oasis]

some aetherium items feel weird too me ngl
but its still my top 4 and prob is 4.

[willow oasis]

like this is mad goofy

[wanton rock]

Nail bomb will never not be a fun item

[willow oasis]

inf free revives

my dumbass cant understand

[pale zealot]

best item for Goku

[wanton rock]

Its not that easy

[willow oasis]

batshit op without being configed

[torn hornet]

Maybe I was being a bit harsh on mystics? I just remembered finding the items way too specific for what they do

[wanton rock]

Cleanse it and you get a buff

[willow oasis]

I used it for a few runs I got revived 12 out of 15 times

[pale zealot]

training arc lunar item

[wanton rock]

If you get below 30% health you are on a timer to die

[full garnet]

the best part of void heart is proccing a money shrine then bleeding to death while nothing spawns

[torn hornet]

Released from the void and Spikestrip I hate though.
Tried them multiple times, didn't have anything nice besides "not paying health for void cradles is a good concept"

[pale zealot]

vanilla void worst mod confirmed

[torn hornet]

Void coins you either have 0 or 50 so it's just a check if you got one single void cell that run

[haughty leaf]

Ngl I think fork is misunderstood here or I don't understand how +base damage is bad

[pale zealot]

fork is based

[willow oasis]

my tier list

[pale zealot]

people just don't like it cause it's a small number

[wanton rock]

Its just worse than other damage items

[haughty leaf]

Cause it's strength comes from being multiplied

It's not a multiplier

[pale zealot]

watches break, focus crystals are only up close but fork is universal

[haughty leaf]

It's the first damn number in the proc chain lol

I'm about to get fucking PTSD from Path of exile building again

[wanton rock]

Focus crystal is also the first number, and damage ups get multiplied by other damage ups thats not a fork specific thing

[torn hornet]

Someone really needs to explain the spikestorm appeal though

Spikestrip even

[willow oasis]

brother said spikestorm 😼

[wanton rock]

It modifies the first number

[haughty leaf]

Arguably given the nature of it all 3 of those are the same number

[pale zealot]

btw is there a mod that changes the white damage multipliers to +15%?

[wanton rock]

Ultimate custom run lets you do that

[willow oasis]

I will not explain why its good because there isnt a complete list of items and what they do and I am too lazy for logbook

[haughty leaf]

But yeah base damage is what all other damage numbers stem out from. A multiplier like focus crystal mods that same base damage to a higher number lol

[pale zealot]

I hate configs, I hate configs, I hate configs

[wanton rock]

Welcome to modding

[haughty leaf]

It's why multipliers are great when you have multiple categories but base is king for starting off strong

[pale zealot]

worst part of configs is that I have to open the game then close it then open it again to test

[haughty leaf]

Fork is a hill I'm going to die on. There's no reason in my mind why the item is bad especially given the games communities love of proc chains lol

[pale zealot]

btw Mystic, is Nuclear Accelerator boosting base damage intentional?

[torn hornet]

I forgot that that mod also adds new skills and while i didnt get the chance to play with them, the ones i unlocked were comically useless

I think once i got to unlocking the skills and seeing just how bad they were is when spikestrip got me to ditch it
Bad elite, bad enemies, bad items and bad skills
it adds so much, not one bit of it i enjoyed

[pale zealot]

I used to not like the skills too but after I tried them they are fun

[haughty leaf]

Network my behated. best designed skill though

[torn hornet]

I cant imagine for one second playing loader without a grapple
The replacement is not even vaguely worth

[pale zealot]

it's too OP on purpose, especially on agile characters

[wanton rock]

The void skills are meant to go against the orginal playstyle to play the character a different way iirc

[willow oasis]

^

[haughty leaf]

Only network really succeeded in that

[torn hornet]

Thats a concept but its not executed well
At that point, your better off playing a different character.

[haughty leaf]

Railgunner shotgun is closeish

[wanton rock]

I'd say loaders did too but everything else did not

[haughty leaf]

Loaders is a sidegradeish thing. Didn't really stop you from playing the char a normalish way

[torn hornet]

Id only even consider ditching grapple on a very late run where mobility is high already or in simulacrum
And even in those sitatuions, id rather just...play void fiend for that

Also acrids just seems total garbage
Removing posion leaves him with just nothing

[pale zealot]

you sound like me when talking about bubbets

[torn hornet]

Bubbets is just items though?

[pale zealot]

yeah but I hate bubbets

[torn hornet]

It's got a lot of bad items, mainly way too many do the same thing but the fun and good items just keeps it high

Void items, I meant to say there

[willow oasis]

the ultimate shitpost

[torn hornet]

We do a minor amount of trolling

[full garnet]

id consider synergies a C tier if the UI elements werent so fugly
the items are just fine i suppose it just bothers me how ugly it all looks

[pale zealot]

random number generator generator

[pale zealot]

my problem with synergies is that it just makes the game easier

also league of legends character

[full garnet]

its a cool idea marred by bad execution

wish it just worked by scrapper/printer rules where you found specific synergy-mabobs and fed it the items that it needs to make stuff instead of just using that weird box and getting them directly while keeping the items

you kinda just Win Harder

also yeah balancing a synergy that uses a white item sounds like a pain in the ass

if you need a white and a green, would the result be a green in terms of power? or white? or red?

[echo temple]

I really like all of the void skills except for deeprot and that's only because I don't find it antithetical to acrids playstyle

[full garnet]

plus alot are taken up by guns, or give bonus to specific gun types

you cant exactly find huntress bow while playing mando

[echo temple]

Synergies I just find too inconsistent

[pale zealot]

+

SotV = Synergeis of the Void

[full garnet]

blast shower + lily causes the nova when you activate it

[timid swallow]

that would make bottomless missile launcher

[full garnet]

honestly anything to make blast shower more than just hahah look at my quirky permabands

[pale zealot]

hahah look at my quirky imortality

[full garnet]

based

[pale zealot]

I don't think synergies will ever work in ror2

[full garnet]

+ turns you into a bigass fire shuriken on use

[haughty leaf]

This is just part SS2s Cloaking Headband 🙂

[wanton rock]

Cloaking headband doesn't clear debuffs

Last i checked

[haughty leaf]

But if you're invis you don't get hit and then don't ned debuffs t obe cleared

[full garnet]

blast shower + harpoon give you longer harpoon buffs and it activates the buff on use

because im pretty sure those are the two least used of their tiers

[torn hornet]

Isn't there a mod that does exactly that?

[pale zealot]

accurate enemies

[haughty leaf]

I still like Harpoon 🙂

[echo temple]

Oreo

[grizzled anchor]

huntress harpoon

[mossy lagoon]

this is sort of necessary in a horde shooter

[timid swallow]

moffein made a mod

[grizzled anchor]

simply make every enemy perfectly accurate

its just a skill issue if you cant get behind cover in time

[mossy lagoon]

even something like inferno (which doesn't even let enemies lead attacks) feels bullshit sometimes

[willow oasis]

Well it tries to predict you

So you can dodge but it’s hard for things like lems

The circle strat doesn’t work

You gotta like move really funky

[jaunty cargo]

Where's the RoR 2 boss that gives you 8 Reds on defeat smh

[jaunty cargo]

What this implies is we need a bunch of Hunter and Smoker type enemies that just fucking kill you unless you kill them immediately

[grizzled anchor]

give void infestors a death explosion

😼

[jaunty cargo]

The thing about horde shooters is it's never the horde that kills you, it's the disabler spam

Vague and undefined as "horde shooter" as a genre is, I don't think any Risk of Rains are one partly for that reason

No Specials, low emphasis on co-op, third person...

[mossy lagoon]

you fight lots of enemies at once by shooting them

whatever you wanna call that

[jaunty cargo]

Beetles + Lemurians + Wisps don't really have the same vibe as DRG Grunts, or L4D Commons, or PAYDAY Light and Heavy SWAT either. Can't quite put my finger on why

[pale zealot]

ror2 isn't a hoard shooter cause melee characters exists

[mossy lagoon]

lol

[jaunty cargo]

Vermintide's reaction to that information:

Tbh horde shooter for me is more like "L4Dlike" than "shoot lots of things". Same way that a "strategy" game is not "game where you employ strategy" but "game where you're a general leading an army"

[grizzled anchor]

strategy game is definitely "game where you employ strategy" imo

[jaunty cargo]

It's really not

Bit annoyed that no one's stepped forward to make a rigid definition of "horde shooter", because a lot of people seem to think it's just another term for "looter shooter"

[pale zealot]

is it spelled hoard or horde?

[grizzled anchor]

horde = group of things
hoard = holding onto things

[pale zealot]

thanks

[mossy lagoon]

clear symptom of a near terminal case of gamer brain

[magic bloom]

this means i have only 1 mode loaded or that this mod is not working?

[grizzled anchor]

you only have bepinexpack loaded

[heady citrus]

hi guys i am new in this but i have a question can answer ?

[wanton rock]

?

[heady citrus]

i down load a mod but are deprecated and no see in game

[wanton rock]

don't use deprecated mods

they (usually) do not work

[heady citrus]

i use the akali mod

but ok

you know about this

thx bro

[wanton rock]

👍

[sharp sluice]

@short pendant how were you finding the process of adding BetterUI ItemStats support? Was there anything making it difficult? Also it says re-enabled? Was there something causing issues?

[willow oasis]

@grizzled anchor when readme

[halcyon crypt]

Where would I install mods for Ror2? Its my first time playing it on PC and after I finish completing survivors of the void I want to go into modding. Please feel free to mention me.

[timid swallow]

install r2modman on your device

[halcyon crypt]

Where should I install it from? thunderstore?

[full garnet]

ye

[hollow wyvern]

I think this is the only time I'm ever going to say this, but I am extremely glad I picked up her biting embrace

it procs like a beast with Zetaspects and absolutely demolished the first two waves of mithrix. Really only died because I got way too cocky

[willow oasis]

zetaspects

[wanton rock]

Zetaspects is fine if you adjust the chance of them dropping

its still better than vanilla aspects

[prisma oracle]

it’s absurdly strong when you get one
not like the game needs any more free win items

[timid swallow]

it's funny

[prisma oracle]

true

[wanton rock]

also its fully configurable

[echo temple]

I have never used zetaspects

[timid swallow]

when I was using that aspects, I made the drop text to be "a powerful enemy just dropped their pocket"

[echo temple]

I like them being the rare commodity that doesn't do much and laugh at giving it to an equipment drone

[prisma oracle]

mine was the default text but I replaced “essence” or whatever they used with “balls”

[timid swallow]

they didn't stay...

[prisma oracle]

I stole the balls

[timid swallow]

cobbler and the thief lore vs gameplay

[echo temple]

I don't know what that means but I'm inclined to agree

[timid swallow]

https://youtu.be/G_fpA6Ttm0M

OK the thief and the cobbler

[prisma oracle]

god this movie

[timid swallow]

my wording sounds better😼

[mossy lagoon]

will stay

[lavish lily]

is there mods that like ruin the rng for stage order or did we just get unlucky that we had the same pattern 3 times in a row?

[mossy lagoon]

unlucky

[lavish lily]

also fogbound lagoon, is it just pure luck to get there?

[full garnet]

its on normal stage rotation so technically yes

[mossy lagoon]

you can use the lunar seer like any other stage

[lavish lily]

is forgotten relics buggy?

[full garnet]

nah

[lavish lily]

I had a run where the fps dropped to like 2 and the teleporter wouldnt work

[full garnet]

its having issues with the rmor mod currently but if either is disabled youll be fine

[lavish lily]

oh so having rmor and forgotten relics together isnt good then?

[full garnet]

something about rmor fucks with it so yeah

[lavish lily]

thank you

[full garnet]

dev will fix it soon but for now disable one or the other

[lavish lily]

also forgotten relics, how do I fix the broken teleporters?

[mossy lagoon]

use the yellow orb item on it

I forget the name

but it's another interactible

[full garnet]

relic of force i think

[echo temple]

Relic of energy

[lavish lily]

ok gave forgotten relics another chance, the golem worms were very unfun

[wanton rock]

you can disable them specifically if you don't like them

[lavish lily]

you can disable certain enemies?

[wanton rock]

yeah

[rough widget]

did u die during phase 4

[mossy lagoon]

coil golems ez

[hollow wyvern]

phase 3

specifically big spinny

[tawdry ore]

this has to be the worst modded item i have ever seen

[gentle rampart]

such a big impact on health regeneration

[grizzled anchor]

empathy c4

[uneven silo]

whats the mod that shows all the items you have, including stacks

so i can have 14 pairs of glasses on my face

[tawdry ore]

"stacking items" would be my guess

[gentle rampart]

sillyitems i think

[uneven silo]

found it thank you

[tawdry ore]

[hollow wyvern]

mysterious vial ror2 edition

[tawdry ore]

it may seem to inherit items

deep rock galactic driller moment

[willow oasis]

yes

[marble galleon]

Bruh

[tawdry ore]

picked up an item that is just way too strong for it's own good, unable to take a screenshot though

[wanton rock]

?

[tawdry ore]

20% chance for 250%(+200%) damage, picking them up gives +5%(+5%) attackspeed for 10s

and it stacks

[wanton rock]

Where does it say the danage thing? All i remember is the attack speed

[last gale]

true brainrot clip

[willow oasis]

@short pendant

[willow oasis]

Atg if it was cool

Simple solution in config make it a 17.5% chance and deal 175% damage (+145% per stack)
Pickup being 4% (+4% per stack attack speed for 8 seconds

All around star nerf baby (probably horrible changes cuz I’m bad at balancd)

[tawdry ore]

or just make it stack up to a certain amount

oh that's another thing, it deals 250% TOTAL damage

[willow oasis]

Or make it be a 10% chance to proc

[willow oasis]

Isn’t that atg or am I tripping

And idk the diff damage types meaning

[tawdry ore]

atg is 300% total damage with 10% chance

[willow oasis]

Mystic mode

[willow oasis]

15% chance
150% damage (+125% per stack)

• other changes there

Prob balanced right?

[tawdry ore]

[willow oasis]

True

[tawdry ore]

time to crash

and then it's this thing when combined

[gentle rampart]

oh no

[tawdry ore]

look at the guy who got tricked into joining a funny discord server

@pale quarry could you delete this message

[pale quarry]

oop, yes

[steady elbow]

justtao#4200 was banned

[pale quarry]

thanks for the @

[tawdry ore]

1fps

[willow oasis]

dick and balls

bro @short pendant im playing terraria and when I get things with the mystic reforge my broken ass just thinks of you / your mod

[gentle rampart]

man do i love HAN-D mod

[tawdry ore]

TheMysticSword adding the most busted shit to ror2 🪄

aaaaand it crashed

[willow oasis]

I ended up doing this for balance

[tawdry ore]

i mean i was playing with dual nailgun and had clover

i was asking for it to be busted

[willow oasis]

yes but its 20% chance 250% total damage + the buff

vs atg 10% chance of 350% (I think) total damge

[tawdry ore]

i'd just reduce the chance to 10% and have the buff be limited to 5 (+5) stacks

the whole lag problem stems from procchains though

stupid fun item though

wisps getting bonked down to the ground

[willow oasis]

still going to reduce the damage slightky because its just a better atg at this point

[echo temple]

I mean 250% total damage sucks balls on everything that isn't nailgun

the main reason why I think that item is busted is because of the funny item called contraband gunpowder

[tawdry ore]

that too

the item's damage itself is fine but it could use a lower chance

[willow oasis]

its literally atg but weaker 😼

[tawdry ore]

it has 66% more damage output than atg

but with less scaling

[stoic notch]

Trying to unlock HAN-D in ROR2, where's he located in Rallypoint Delta?

[echo temple]

Check the crates

[stoic notch]

I think I checked all of them

Even the one way on top with the Newt Altar

[gentle rampart]

try the one that is under the leaned over one

[stoic notch]

Found it. Somehow missed ONE of them on the ground level

[gentle rampart]

i was going to post a screenshot of it but okk

[stoic notch]

Also, been trying to unlock one of the Artificer Extended abilities, "Kill 15 Burning Elites with burn"

But I've been on Honor and it feels like letting the burn ticks kill hasn't been doing it?

[pale zealot]

I thought it only broke coil worms? what else breaks?

nevermind it got fixed

[rough widget]

introducing : cheat unlocks

[stoic notch]

I know I can go into the config and unlock it there, but where's the fun in that?

[rough widget]

uh just find an ignition tank

[stoic notch]

Currently sitting on 4

[mossy lagoon]

I think the achievements might still be broken from the patch a while back

[stoic notch]

They're certainly working, because I am getting the unlocks for other abilities

[mossy lagoon]

atg also isn't guaranteed to hit

[pale zealot]

does Stargazer's proc chain?

what is the proc coefficient?

so it's basically and alt atg

from what I played it's strong but not op

I like it

Moonglasses don't need a buff

like at all

they synergies with faulty spotter

also bandit and railgunner don't need a buff

hooray

make it double all crit chance, including stage transition crits

Idea: double's crit damage but enemies can crit you

from which mod?

[timid swallow]

wait isnt that swuff's

makeglasses lenses

[mossy lagoon]

and it allows stacking higher than 100% crit

[dense trout]

Still don't know why overcrits aren't vanilla

[pale zealot]

In a recent run I picked up Moonglasses on Commencement cause I had 121% crit

[dense trout]

Solves the lensmaker's glasses not stacking infinitely issue

[mossy lagoon]

not really an issue imo there's plenty of items with soft caps

[dense trout]

This is a hard cap tho

[pale zealot]

trip tip, sticky bombs, needle tick, stun grenades

ghor's tome too

[dense trout]

Anyway, when I was making items my rule of thumb was that sodtcaps should be at 20/10/2 for an item

[pale zealot]

20 for white / 10 for green / 2 for red?

[dense trout]

Yes

More lenient when preferable, but at least that

[mossy lagoon]

I just meant soft cap as in you can still pick up items but they don't do anything

but I am in favor of hyper crit

[pale zealot]

what is your opinion on hyper bleed or hyper collapse or hyper sticky bombs?

[mossy lagoon]

also idk about hard cap of 2 on reds

[mossy lagoon]

it would be fine if it worked like 110% proc chance is 100% chance to proc 1 stack of bleed/collapse/sticky bomb and 10% chance to proc 2

I don't mind that

but I think crit is a special case since it's not a proc

[pale zealot]

I might start playing with hyper crit to see if like it

[mossy lagoon]

you rarely make use of it unless you loop

[pale zealot]

I know hyper bleed/collapse exists but I'm suprised no one has made hyper sticky bombs

[mossy lagoon]

or any hyper procs

also I think hyperbleed/collapse works different from what I was saying

[pale zealot]

yeah they boost the damage of the proc

@short pendant how does hyper bleed interact with shatterspleen?

[mossy lagoon]

the other solution to prevent hard caps is make them all stack hyperbolically

😎

[pale zealot]

@short pendant sprinting while having energy drink still boosts damage with the nuclear accelerator, not sure if it's intentional

[timid swallow]

i wish it worked like before and wasnt just a base damage increase

[pale zealot]

how did it use to work?

[timid swallow]

so lets say you were sprinting for a while
and now you started walking
the moment you started walking you gained a timed buff that increased your damage, proportionate to amount of time you sprinted beforehand

[pale zealot]

that sounds clunky

[pale zealot]

That's fair

[grizzled anchor]

hopoo try to make a correct description challenge

energy drink is actually just +17.24% movespeed that is only active when sprinting because the hopoo james

[ancient lake]

i download tf2 emotes mod and the custom emote api mod but the tf2 emotes dont show when i use the emote wheel

[random sphinx]

Anyone know if there is a way to get into contact with the creator of R-MOR Reforged? I don't see a way to submit issues on their github but their recent update broke the mod and causes hangs.

The error looks like it's the ItemDisplay changes they made to "Ancient Scepter".

[timid swallow]

find em in modding discord

[random sphinx]

true true, didnt think of that

[cloud bough]

How do yall feel about autosprint? I was thinking of Maybe getting it but I don't know if it feels like cheating or not

[timid swallow]

fucks with me habits n reflexes so i never use it

[wanton rock]

its not cheating but read what dazed said

[last gale]

does someone have a list of qol mods? I'll mess with new items and etc later, just want the game to run better

[willow oasis]

wolfo qol is nice

[last gale]

I got a bunch of these from that pinned message

[grizzled anchor]

some good ones are RiskOfWaiting, ItemStats (or BetterUI), ZetTweaks, WolfoQoL, StageAesthetic, AV_Effect_Options

[last gale]

what does AV_Effect_Options do exactly, didn't quite get it

[grizzled anchor]

lets you disable visual effects for better performance

[last gale]

I see

is it normal for the game to take 1 to 2 minutes loading for the first time you launch with mods?

[willow oasis]

Install riskofwaiting

[pale zealot]

The fact that riskofwaiting exists and works is mind blowing to me

[sharp sluice]

Do you mean Cracked Orb? It isn't crits but it has its own % chance and a chance for you to get hit multiple times.

[sharp sluice]

If that's the item they meant it's part of my MoreItems mod

[pale zealot]

just checked the mod and the item Mystic explained seems like a combination of the 2 lunars

[odd summit]

Question, does anyone know why my hud for The House mod isnt appearing? I attempted to change some of the config settings, but no matter what I do
neither my table nor my crosshair appear. Also, the default crosshair is inside the house model.

[willow oasis]

r2api update prob broke it

might be wrong but idk

[odd summit]

I did make a mod pack with just the house mod (and all its dependencies) and it still didnt work

I also tried playing an earlier version, but it didnt show up in the character select

[gray barn]

anyone know of a mod that makes the aspect skins selectable?

[neat temple]

I was planning on dropping modding altogether after loosing progress to a crash at least two times in a row.

but I might as well see this thing through.

How do I get my load order from r2modman?

[wanton rock]

What?

[neat temple]

how do I share which mods I am using?

[wanton rock]

A mod code

[neat temple]

where do I get that?

[wanton rock]

Settings-->profile-->export as code

[neat temple]

thanks.
0185570e-82fb-b412-9185-507e60b7c7af

OHHHH I know what is causing the crash

I was testing out the playerbot mod and letting them go crazy with increased bot inventory settings.

🤦‍♂️

[wanton rock]

There is also the proper save mod for if you crash/quit

[neat temple]

I think I have it. is it automated? I need to look at it's config.

[wanton rock]

Proper save auto saves at the begining of each stage

[neat temple]

I did not see that load button in the lobby menu.

[glass scroll]

not that i know of but they are just overlay materials you should be able to use UnityExplorer to apply it to the model

[gray barn]

yeah i was thinkin like a legit skinpack though i needa start using UnityExplorer though, seems like theres a lot more you can do there than debugtoolkit

[willow oasis]

ayo its nuxlar

[gray barn]

holy shit it's nuxlar

[glass scroll]

might look into it cuz that would be pretty cool, if it takes more than 5 mins ill prolly drop it

[gray barn]

yeah that sounds about right

[glass scroll]

[gray barn]

lmk though

[lavish lily]

I downloaded an ost mod and no matter what I do I cant get rid of it?

[wanton rock]

Did you do a manual download or did you use a mod manager

[lavish lily]

mod manager

[wanton rock]

So what exactly is the problem

[lavish lily]

it downloaded but its not showing up as a mod but the audio is still playing ingame even when I put my master volume to 0

I found it on the mod manager but when I search for it, its not said to be downloaded yet still functional.

[pulsar quail]

the void fog entangles me

game

hey dude

[celest canopy]

nice

[willow oasis]

mystic I feel like the coin should only activate if the shrine fails

cuz I get like 5-9 stacks of the buff per stage

pretty strong for a white

[jade prairie]

help me there isnt manamod on my r2apı

[deft flame]

any good qol mods for risk of rain 2

[willow oasis]

wolfoqol

also check pins

[jade prairie]

If I use R2modman, where does the mod file go?

Or how do I know a mod worked?

[mossy lagoon]

launch the game

click start modded I mean

if it doesn't work, check the help tab in the mod manager, it'll walk you through the most common issues

usually it's directories not set correctly

[dapper sleet]

it goes into a profile folder in r2modman, to go to it just click locations in settings and you should see it

[pale zealot]

It's already situational enough I don't think it ahould be luck dependent too

[willow oasis]

I guess

[pale zealot]

Also I swear having one of those makes you not fail shrine of chances as often

[jade prairie]

does faster printer/scrapper/chance shrine break the game too much? i guess it's technically saving time which would make the game easier. i play very vanilla but debating using it

[willow oasis]

no its very nice

also use this

[jade prairie]

alright

[mossy lagoon]

lol pretty sure that one breaks on interact effects like fireworks and polyp

and wolfoqol has faster scrapper/cauldron/shrine/printer but not instant like others

[wanton rock]

i use exchange changes, it allows you to configure how fast they are too

[pale zealot]

wrong character

[gentle rampart]

desolator's dead body

[pale zealot]

I somehow didn't see it

Desolator became something wicked

[gentle rampart]

Desolator is very cool

and irradiated

[lean field]

Can I ask for help?

[pale zealot]

sure thing

[lean field]

I don’t have a pc and I’ve been waiting so long for the dlc

How do I play without steam because there’s no way that anyone will give me access to their steam account so do I just be patient or do I ask?

We can start a voice chat too

[pale zealot]

I can't help you with that sorry

[lean field]

It’s ok I’ll be patient

But I’m also looking for people to play with too

[waxen vigil]

Is there a way to have custom keybinds per survivor? Haven’t been able to find much

[waxen vigil]

It seems to be available on stadia, maybe other cloud gaming platforms too

[lean field]

Thanks dude your a life saver

[jade prairie]

is there a mod to actually make engi m1 autofire single clicks (2 grenades)? https://thunderstore.io/package/Moffein/Engi_M1_Autofire/ on "auto" does the same thing as holding down m1 anyway. "hold" mode just makes it so nothing fires until you let go. unless i'm not understanding something here.

[viral leaf]

theres a mod that is called like Engineer Tweaks and it makes it autofire

[viral leaf]

https://thunderstore.io/package/HIFU/HIFUEngineerTweaks/

[hollow wyvern]

game froze and I got treated to floating gups

[versed niche]

stadia is dead though, isn't it?

[waxen vigil]

Idk, just did a google search to see which services had ror2 and it was on there lol

https://cloudbase.gg/g/risk-of-rain-2/

[grizzled anchor]

stadia dies next month

average stadia L

[waxen vigil]

True lol, cloud gaming moment

[waxen vigil]

Also going to guess that this isn’t possible? 🤔

[pale zealot]

Can you bind it to E like headstompers and egg?

[waxen vigil]

I was thinking more along the lines of swapping binds around between survivors

M1 and special swap for bandit, loader movement to M1 etc

[lament olive]

Anybody have any idea why r2modman isnt displaying any games, including Risk of Rain?

[willow oasis]

somebody should make a mod that allows for a bunch of custom keybinds that u normally cant do 😼

[molten pine]

modding atm 136 mods

[willow oasis]

@pure condor

[echo temple]

d1278 ba148 RC34 0.28

[molten pine]

my modpack has 150 mods now

sadly floppy no work

[steady rapids]

Im having an issue where whenever I close the modded version all of my progress is gone

I.E my paladin unlocks are locked again

I selected the default profile for my r2modman but does that have any bearing on data/progress?

However my vanilla progress remains

is there a way to save progress on the modded RoR2 so i dont have to unlock everything again?

even weirder is that it the run history still remembers me doing runs with things that I have unlocked

[ripe nebula]

Idk what it is, but I think one survivor is making it so that my camera glitches when I spawn and I don't spawn when I have the metamorphosis artifact on

[wanton rock]

starstorm currently breaks metamorphosis

[ripe nebula]

ah

saved me a bit of testing, thank you @wanton rock

[ripe nebula]

I don't know if this a mod, but does anyone else get an issue where sometimes you click and the game doesn't register?

nop, might be my mouse

[wanton rock]

I have that issue with my mouse (i now use m5 for ny primary)

[lavish lily]

are the hifu mods good?

[viral leaf]

most of the ones I’ve experimented with have been good, but I haven’t played all of them too much

[pale zealot]

I can confirm that Huntress tweaks, Bandit tweaks, Engineer tweaks, Acrid tweaks and Captain tweaks are good, I don't have much experience with the other ones to tell

oh and Artificer tweaks

[serene python]

where's the load button for the proper save mod?

[pale zealot]

under the artifacts

[serene python]

i see it thanks

[lavish lily]

Is there any mods that give typhoon skins to base game characters?

[pale zealot]

Eclipse should work on most characters

otherwise starstorm 2 for actual typhoon and more difficulties

[timid swallow]

or untitled difficulty mod

or inferno