ror2-modding

[warm hill]

Watching the SeventeenUncles stream, I really should tone down the audio on the nailbomb lol

[timid swallow]

cheatunlocks by mysticsword

the komrade is real👀

[warm hill]

Working at an Advance Auto has drained my energy so much this last year lol

[nimble field]

birb

[timid blaze]

Random skills, working on an update at the moment

[warm hill]

I forgot to mention to uncles that a good deal of the items in Aetherium are Lunar items haha

Lunars are way more fun to develop

[timid swallow]

yeah he didnt get the weighted, zenith, void heart n alien magnet

witch's ring shenaningans were pretty funny too

[nimble field]

bruh alien magnet is the best item outta aetherium

[warm hill]

Void Heart would probably be one of those ones he'd enjoy

Probably my most overdeveloped item

Zenith was one that I spent a great deal of time on and it still needs rebalanced

I noticed a lot of ghosts being spawned by the happiest mask + witches ring combo

He also didn't seem to get to see the bell totem or jar of reshaping, bell totem is probably my most favorite equipment that I've developed

[timid swallow]

he got jar on the second run

[warm hill]

Ah

[timid swallow]

sadly hopoo stole the bell so it's not a lot different from the vending machine

[warm hill]

Sad, I really put a lot of work into the bing bong bong bing

I was expecting him to fall in the same trap as woolie with picking up the Unstable Design haha

Don't get me wrong, Unstable Design is good because of half xp and half gold being awarded to you from its kills, but it can stop your run quick.

[timid swallow]

man i love unstable design

game turns into horror

[warm hill]

I loved seeing the soul punch on Voidling

in his run

@bold parcel Been watching the stream you did yesterday, bold move having progression AND regression on at that same time haha

[bold parcel]

aye those imps got me good lmao

[warm hill]

If you ever end up playing Aetherium again, try out Void Heart, it's a lunar with a funny twist. Same with Unstable Design.

Unstable Design is probably the most sadistic one in the mod.

[bold parcel]

i will!

i liked the lunar that randomly gives you and the enemies around you buffs

[warm hill]

Ah yeah, Accursed Potion. There is a major downside with some mods and that item where it will pull instant death debuffs some mods introduce haha

Appreciate you checking out the mod though, hope you enjoy your journey through the community mods. Lot of good work done in the scene.

[mossy lagoon]

PEW

[mossy lagoon]

I've probably died to this one more than I've died to mithrix

[spiral crane]

i have a question, me n my friend really love mode "BubbetsItems" by Bubbet but we cant play together while we have this mod enabled cuz its bugging in the lobby n we cant lock our character, can someone explain to me why is it bugging? or will it get fix?

answer to dm if possible, thx

[timid swallow]

i remember playing bubbet's with other people, could you send a log? might be incompat

[spiral crane]

We played it together too, but after some update we suddenly couldnt

[timid swallow]

yeah we played on the latest too

[spiral crane]

Maybe its bugging cuz of other mods huh?

[timid swallow]

that's what i meant by saying might be incompat

[spiral crane]

sorry, im from czech so my eng isnt that great and it takes me a while to understand, but tbh idk how to send a log 😄

[timid swallow]

teraz napišem ako

[spiral crane]

poslouchám 😄

[timid swallow]

You can find a more detailed log file for debugging in either :
C:\Users<UserName>\AppData\LocalLow\Hopoo Games, LLC\Risk of Rain 2\ folder,
or
C:\Users<UserName>\AppData\Local\Temp\Hopoo Games, LLC\Risk of Rain 2
the file is called Player.log.
Drag the file in this channel so that other users can help you.

wait nah

wrong

You can find such log file in your Risk of Rain 2/BepInEx/ folder, the file is called LogOutput.log.
Drag the file in this channel so that other users can help you.

you can get that folder by going to r2modman > settings > locations > bepinex folder

[timid blaze]

also include your credit card information, full address, and social security number

[spiral crane]

dm

[spiral crane]

wdym he cant hack me or something from that log can he?

[mossy lagoon]

lol no withor was just making a joke

[timid blaze]

Nah, i was just making a joke

[spiral crane]

just making sure 😄

so basically i can drop that log here so other ppl could have a look ?

[timid blaze]

Yeah, someone who actually understands ror2 code will probs be able to help ya out

[sturdy crag]

Probably mismatched configs, share profile code with each other again.

It's supposed to network them, but who knows.

Log would still probably help.

[timid swallow]

yeah it was config mismatch, we figured the issue in dms👍

[sturdy crag]

I'll have to see about networking the configs earlier if I can.

[timid swallow]

guys just didnt use profile codes and just told each other what to download in call

[wet river]

enforcer, are there any other items other than bungus that change the weapons function visual and sounds

[jagged bridge]

I wish I knew how to animate and whatnot.
A proper Doom Slayer class mod would be sick

[pliant flame]

Is there any mod which gives you a permanent radar ping for stuff on stages?

[forest juniper]

just started playing modded and it isn't opening ror2, it runs a bunch of code then stops

[mossy lagoon]

youre trying to launch the dedicated server

go to settinjgs, click change game, go to the game tab, then select ror2

[minor arrow]

Is it just me or should someone make a lemurian hotdog mod if not already made

[mossy lagoon]

lemdog existed for a very brief period of time

[jagged bridge]

Which mod makes the artificer become an ally when freed?

[wanton rock]

Dancer

[jagged bridge]

Really? That's super out of place, innit?

Weird

But nice to know

[somber yacht]

https://www.reddit.com/r/riskofrain/comments/ii1erk/g_l_i_z_z_a_r_d/ 🤩

[minor arrow]

Not exactly what I was going for but ok

[warped citrus]

baby words please

[quasi mirage]

mods arent working how fix am big stupid please help

would appear it is only chestitempicker that isnt working so how do i fix that

[meager silo]

That looks like a VERY outdated mod

Isn't that just the command artifact

[quasi mirage]

alright so what is a replacement for it if it is outdated

[meager silo]

What does the mod do

[quasi mirage]

i did try putting the dependency mods to the preferred versions so idk

[quasi mirage]

it allows you to choose whatever item you want from chests as long as they are the rarity that was dropped

[meager silo]

So if it dropped white, you can only choose white items?

[quasi mirage]

yes

same for each rarity

[meager silo]

My brother in christ just use command artifact

[quasi mirage]

im new to modding explain please

[meager silo]

It's in the base game, no need to use mods

[quasi mirage]

oh shit thanks bro how do i unlock it is it a drop or modifier for the run

[meager silo]

https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts#Command

Look at that page

It shows how to unlock it

[timid swallow]

googoogaga rrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

scratch what I said before, check if the locations are setup correctly, its also in settings tab

[haughty leaf]

If it's crashing it could also be a screwed up ror2 install. Check if it even runs in vanilla without mods first and if not verify/reinstall the game and try again

[warped citrus]

unborn child words please

[timid swallow]

you know where settings tab is?

[warped citrus]

i got this

[warped citrus]

yeah

[timid swallow]

when you tried starting the game?

[timid swallow]

ok then go to locations tab

[warped citrus]

when i tried running the debugger

yep

what next?

[timid swallow]

open steam, go to risk of rain 2, click on the cog button > manage > browse local files

[warped citrus]

yep

[timid swallow]

you can now copy the location in file explorer, then go to locations tab in r2modman, Click change Risk of Rain 2 directory

[warped citrus]

copy address?

[timid swallow]

yeah

you click on the upper string where it goes like folder > folder > folder, and you can ctrl+c it

[warped citrus]

string?

[timid swallow]

this

[warped citrus]

ok

lemme try now

nope

[timid swallow]

if the location path is the same, go to steam > cog > properties > local files > verify local files

[warped citrus]

i did some random shit and that worked, thank you for putting up with my 0 braincell ass

[fleet bolt]

ay where can i get the client or what ever to play ror2 modded?

[wanton rock]

R2modman, the link to download is in the pins of this channel

[fleet bolt]

[timid blaze]

random thingy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788866573409845250/1034848318028779550/surge.mp4

[timid blaze]

i hate that emote wtf even

[prisma oracle]

that’s a great emote

[timid blaze]

please don't encourage them

[grizzled anchor]

please do encourage them

[mossy lagoon]

the best Skype emote is the emo one

followed by the dance one

[fleet bolt]

Genuinely confused. The Pickup mod wont work and i cant seem to find a proper multitude mod to set my player count beyond a 4man.

nvm figured it

[lucid flax]

when did starstorm update to sotv? Just decided to randomly check it and it no longer has the depracted tag

[wanton rock]

Like last week or something like that

[lucid flax]

im bricked up

man i've been waiting for this all the time. Actually excited haha

[rapid storm]

Is anyone having issues with Nkota's Heritage not giving items when you level up?

I'm part way through a run and just noticed that I haven't been getting items, and nothing has been appearing on the ground behind me or anything like it used to

[brittle cedar]

hay guys i don't know if this is a good place to ask but do you know if there is someone i could pay to update a character mod i like to the current patch? also i checked the rules i think its fine for me to ask here?

Ms Isle

https://thunderstore.io/package/Big-Crab/Ms_Isle/

[timid swallow]

@fleet mantle idk anyone else who's doing comissions so you might be interested

[fleet mantle]

I do mostly full survivor commissions, but I can update some mods as well, ty

[jolly garden]

ok question

this is on paladin btw, what does the lightning buff actually do

[prisma oracle]

pretty sure it gives you the same effect as a uke?

can’t recall it’s been a while since I played Paladin

[exotic sentinel]

uhhhh

[meager silo]

is there a mod that removes the crosshair?

[timid blaze]

Why would you want this

[meager silo]

immersion lol

and plus it makes you actually pay attention to your character

like where they're shooting at

[timid blaze]

You can turn off the entire hud in the options menu i guess

Pretty sure that includes the crosshair

[meager silo]

yea but then you dont know how much scrap you have lol

thats really the only problem

[timid blaze]

Hm, fair enough

I don't really know how to do hud stuff, so i doubt i'd be able to code it for ya

[timid blaze]

anyways, merc can fly now
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745299016400502806/1035191293682393238/funky_glide1.mp4

well, technically a glide, you lose speed when going up

[grizzled anchor]

but does he have very tactical diving slide 😼

[timid blaze]

what does that even mean

[grizzled anchor]

crackedmando utility

gives him 5 seconds of essentially noclip

[timid blaze]

can he go through terrain?

[grizzled anchor]

no but he has full flight

[timid blaze]

fair

did you just extend the duration of roll's state and set the velocity to his aimray?

[grizzled anchor]

no it just enables flight

[timid blaze]

does it even have like an animation?

[grizzled anchor]

it literally just does this for 5 seconds

[timid blaze]

fair enough

can you make him t pose during it?

i think that would be funny

[grizzled anchor]

he already A-poses all the time because he has no animations

[timid blaze]

ayo, based

does he have an equivalent to supp fire?

wait, is it just supressive nader?

[grizzled anchor]

suppressive nader yeah

stays true to the meme and eradicates crowdfunder from the universe on hit

[timid blaze]

incredible

what m1 does he get?

[grizzled anchor]

double double double double double tap: fires bullets all around him for 96x100% that never miss

his skillset

[timid blaze]

just a bullseye search i assume?

[grizzled anchor]

sphere search

hits everything in a 25m radius around him

[timid blaze]

ah, same thing

i actually still use bullseye searches when working in a sphere cause i'm lazy

[jade prairie]

played gotce yesterday

i love how there's items that just crash the game

[timid blaze]

wait, seriously

damn, i really gotta step up my game if i want to compete with that

[wanton rock]

There is like 3 of them that do that

[raw rapids]

2 of them crash the game, one of them just spams nres which causes a lot of lag

there's also an item that spams random equips every frame so that will cause a lot of lag

[raw rapids]

there are also items that just kill you

[timid blaze]

truly incredible

[mossy lagoon]

grandfather clock >>

[sterile flower]

is Rahkshi supposed to be giant?

[fleet mantle]

yes

not the usual survivor, its a huge tank

[jade prairie]

what uhh

what item mods should I grab to just overload my game with new shit

gotce and spikestrip definitely, but what else

[fleet mantle]

synergies

[hearty nexus]

does anyone remember how to setup an eclipse 8 run for people who don't have eclipse 8 and want to use vanilla ror2?

I remember that you can enable it somehow without editting save files

[halcyon ruin]

im thinking about why my game rebooted my pc

at that moment i was using emote mods

is that possible that the emote mod crashed my game and leaded to reboot

[timid swallow]

i cba writing this shit down bruuuh + dont wanna send a code or file cuz like then you gotta hop between profiles

[jade prairie]

jesus

[timid swallow]

moses

[jade prairie]

and judas too

how many of these are actual balanced items

[timid swallow]

whole tboi cast

[timid swallow]

ror2
balanced

[jade prairie]

correct response

I threw ClassicItems in too

[timid swallow]

madman

[timid swallow]

then get chens classic items and fork mod too

[prisma oracle]

wait there's a fork mod

[timid swallow]

yeah

it's good tm

[prisma oracle]

holy shit this mod is good

[jade prairie]

is it this?

[timid swallow]

yes

[frail fern]

1nsider items

[timid swallow]

1nsider items is one of the most item mods ong

it's basically why gotce is real

[jade prairie]

god I love gotce

love dumb items that go outside of traditional boundaries

shit like "if your volume is muted you do more damage"

[frail fern]

1nsider items when it power creeps its own items

[jade prairie]

"if we detect your system is in a south american country, you get 20 armor"

[mossy lagoon]

tuesday magazine

[ocean karma]

item that pulls your PC's ip, checks your local weather, and adjusts an item accordingly

could even call it "Risk of Rain"!

[timid swallow]

that's
brilliant

[mossy lagoon]

actually good

[lavish dew]

what is the fork mod

oh it's the fork mod

there's a bionicle character mod what that's the best thing ever......

[shut sparrow]

Just wanna drop a lil question in here, tried playing with "An Arbiter" mod, they dont show up in the character list, assumed it was always broken but I saw someone recently playing with them, just wondered if anyone has any insight is all.

[mossy lagoon]

use unofficial ruina mod

whatever moonlol's version is called

[shut sparrow]

Appreciate it chief.

[ocean karma]

phone goes off at work
miss call, but get texted immediately afterwards
"CODE TO RANDOMLY KILL BREADGUY DURING MODDED RUN SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED"

i love modding!

[mossy lagoon]

it keeps happening

new gotce item: chance to fucking die on level up

[ocean karma]

@mossy lagoon i get an email for every activity on the ss2 git so this technically isn't even far from the truth LOL

someone mentioned in lost in transit there's a bug where damage apparently goes through shields?

might just disable heart until i care to fix it lol

[void coyote]

heyo - was wondering if there's already a mod for better performance? I know other games that use r2modman (like ROUNDS) have some

[mossy lagoon]

holy_dll

[toxic ibex]

Something really weird is happening

trying to play starstorm 2 with friends, but for some reason something is corrupted on my side

every time I play tf2 medic and my friend hosts, the camera rapidly pans away and I turn into a sulfur pod?

and when I hosted, my friend turned into the tesla troopers tower?

but then medic was working for me

also when they play together they have no problems with medic mod

also also, theyre invisible in the lobby

we have the same exact mods as well

[frail fern]

probably want to do a fresh import of your profiles

or reinstall starstorm, I can't exactly remember how I fixed it

[wanton rock]

an average stage 1

[mossy lagoon]

wha

multitudes?

[ocean karma]

are your configs the same?

[wanton rock]

no, i just got a bottled command

[toxic ibex]

I didn't have paladin in my lobby UI but they did, which is strange because i have the mod

So that may be where the problem is?

[mossy lagoon]

reimport profile

everybody

[frail fern]

yeah

safest bet is just to reimport profiles

[toxic ibex]

Where can I find this?

[mossy lagoon]

settings in mod manager

export profile as code then change profile and import code

[toxic ibex]

oh, idk if this is relevant, but under paladain configs, its completley blank for me

[toxic ibex]

would the solution you say fix that?

[ocean karma]

definitely cause of the issue

[ocean karma]

yes but only you may need to reimport if it's just your config that's blank. if that doesn't work, everyone doing it will.

[jade prairie]

YEAHH ZOOM LENSES

I was laughing for a good 2 stages when I got this item for the first time

the idea of having your fucking FOV critical hit itself is awesome lmao

[shut sparrow]

Alright coming back in here with another question

Red mist character bugs out on stage 2, Primary attack glitches out and just stays stationary and triggers the idle pose, secondary completely bugs out and causes me to be stationary, just hoping that someone can have any insight tis all.

[raw rapids]

there's going to be an enemy that you can instantly kill by typing a specific phrase in chat

and it's going to be a really dangerous and cancerous enemy

[jade prairie]

are you one of those grody little developers

your mod is nasty i love it

[raw rapids]

so you're kinda gonna have to spam the chat with the phrase

[raw rapids]

I came up with the original concept for gotce

and a large portion of the item ideas and shit

[jade prairie]

my friend is a huntress main and i told them about the cracked variant

[raw rapids]

I of course do programming and stuff

[jade prairie]

and their reaction was fucking exactly what you'd expect

[raw rapids]

all of the wave 1 items were made by me

[jade prairie]

hang on lemme go grab it

[grizzled anchor]

cracked huntress is going to go so hard

[raw rapids]

yeah uh I don't know how the fuck we'll code that

[grizzled anchor]

"balls will slay" is the best skill name

[raw rapids]

yeah

[raw rapids]

how the fuck do the abilities sound fun what

[jade prairie]

it's a huntress player

[raw rapids]

least brain-damaged huntress player

[grizzled anchor]

making a bouncing explosive projectile is going to be the j

[jade prairie]

do you guys have like, a server or smth

I want to throw horrible ideas at you people

[raw rapids]

I was mostly thinking about the breakable skills being ass to program

[raw rapids]

we have a channel in spikestrip modding

[grizzled anchor]

we could just uh put a component on her master that tracks skill uses

[jade prairie]

hook a mushroom up

[raw rapids]

the spikestrip modding server is linked on the gotce thunderstore page

[jade prairie]

oh okay or that

[raw rapids]

keep in mind though that we already have a ton of ideas already

[grizzled anchor]

and set a skill override once it exceeds the use limit

[raw rapids]

so we probably won't implement new ideas unless they're truly braindead

[jade prairie]

yeah nah I'm aware I'm late to the party

I love how casual some of the tooltips are

like the barrier stone saying "haha with one stack it's fucking useless"

[grizzled anchor]

240+ items planned lmao aswell as 2 final bosses a stage and 10+ elites and 20+ enemies and like 20 interactables aswell as 13 survivors

[raw rapids]

ok for the interactables a lot of them are just more category chests

so we basically just have to wait for itemtag api to become real

[grizzled anchor]

bloating the interactable category with category chests

[raw rapids]

[grizzled anchor]

we could do itemtags without itemtagapi it would just be horrible to implement

[raw rapids]

yeah

[jade prairie]

chest that only appears on a tuesday

[grizzled anchor]

and would cause conflict if another mod tried to use the same int val

[raw rapids]

nah wednesday

[raw rapids]

just make the most braindead int val ex

like woolie x crown prince fanfic

[grizzled anchor]

timed security chest that only opens at 8:52 PM on a thursday

[raw rapids]

why the fuck did I type that

[jade prairie]

timed security chest that doesn't open

it's a security chest

nice try dumbass

[grizzled anchor]

this needs to exist on cracked rallypoint

[jade prairie]

tbh the only item idea i came up with so far was

"an item that does something depending on how high/low your volume is"

[grizzled anchor]

immunity to fruiting that scales with volume

[jade prairie]

does gabe's shiv actually work btw

[grizzled anchor]

yes

but only if your steam profile is set to public visibility

the steam api doesnt return a game count for private profiles

[jade prairie]

is it games installed or games in your library

[raw rapids]

installed iirc

[grizzled anchor]

games you've played at least once

[raw rapids]

free games do count though

[grizzled anchor]

or just in your library for paid games

me omw to play every free game known to man so i can get 3420% damage up

[jade prairie]

awaiting the cracked wisp boss battle

just a lesser wisp but with touhou patterns

[grizzled anchor]

there's gonna be a miniboss called living suppressive barrage that does that

[raw rapids]

won't living supp barrage be stationary?

basically a disco ball of death

[grizzled anchor]

sits in one spot and spews suppressive fire all around it

[raw rapids]

yeah

[grizzled anchor]

can stun players

[raw rapids]

eh

maybe just make it slow

tbh I still think we should lower living supp fire damage but make it slow you

so that it's like a support enemy

[grizzled anchor]

it helps other enemies by providing consistency and survivability

[jade prairie]

"suppressive barrage"

dies to a single grenade

[raw rapids]

it's named after the ancient scepter upgraded for suppressive fire in ror1

I think it's a pretty clever reference

[jade prairie]

indeed!

and with ancient scepter installed... TWO of them

[raw rapids]

the name of the supp fire upgrade in the ror2 ancient scepter mod is actually death blossom

[jade prairie]

boooo

BOOOO

should be mandatory for all ror2 modders to play the original

experience all the fun of the fair, such as

• avoiding death by grabbing a rope
• dying anyway because the boss was overloading
• the amount of spite bombs that gup shits out
• bitching about mobility because you don't have feather or jetpack

and so much more!

[raw rapids]

ror1 with starstorm is astronomically based tho

easily better than vanilla ror2

[grizzled anchor]

ror1 gotce when

[raw rapids]

maybe at some point

it would probably actually be a lot easier tbh

Wouldn't have to worry about models

although I am much less familiar with ror1 balance

[jade prairie]

it's uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[raw rapids]

I have less knowledge of what makes balanced and unbalanced items

[jade prairie]

it's kinda wacky

[raw rapids]

and that knowledge is important to make something that is both unbalanced and funny

[grizzled anchor]

it's gotce why does it need to be balanced

[raw rapids]

we need to balance the unbalance

instead of ror2 unbalanced stuff, we need to make ror1 unbalanced stuff

if that makes sense

[grizzled anchor]

after wave 3 i want to make a port of gotce to ror1 that has stage crits and the main funny items

[jade prairie]

ror1 has an item that stops time for like 8-9 seconds
it also has a bug where if you stop time on a 10-minute mark with origin enabled, overlords spawn every second for the duration

[raw rapids]

maybe

[grizzled anchor]

op

[jade prairie]

you can get hella items with it and sacrifice lol

[raw rapids]

unfortunately, time stop is impossible in ror2

[jade prairie]

I don't think it is?

[raw rapids]

unless you do a very shoddy workaround method

[grizzled anchor]

timescale 0

[jade prairie]

does classicitems not add the watch

[raw rapids]

like freezing all enemies in place and stopping their attacks

[grizzled anchor]

timescale 0

[raw rapids]

stopping time for the enemies but not for you, I mean

[grizzled anchor]

lunar item that stops time, including for yourself

[jade prairie]

it's called pee break

[raw rapids]

ok yeah

[jade prairie]

pause time for 10 minutes; you cannot move

do somethin else jackass

[raw rapids]

and since time doesn't pass, the 10 minutes will never be up

[jade prairie]

[grizzled anchor]

busted

[jade prairie]

bigger brain idea, you could call it the soft lock

[grizzled anchor]

it's really good because then you can go play another game

[jade prairie]

literally an item that screams "do not pick this up and use it"

[raw rapids]

mithrix made a lock out of some soft clay

except the clay actually had some spacetime continuum fabric in it

[jade prairie]

speed is war, but what if time slows to a halt? do something else, brother. look for a job. call mom.

[raw rapids]

So activating the lock freezes the universe

[grizzled anchor]

unlock achievement would be getting softlocked on the soup island on glassmithrix stage

[raw rapids]

I don't think mithrix and provi have a mom

there's evidence against them having a mother

so I won't write it into gotce lore

[jade prairie]

i want a lunar item that causes all projectiles to invert their travel direction

including the player's of course

[grizzled anchor]

and flips the teamindex

so enemies hit themselves and you hit yourself

[timid swallow]

they partake in some mother figureless behaviour

[grizzled oxide]

Is there a mod that can prevent certain items from being givent o mobs in simulacrum? I got Dios on them in 3 of the 4 runs I've done this week and I hate it

[grizzled anchor]

aiblacklist

[upbeat haven]

the entire wrath of the community has been channeled in the revampedname of this beast

[neon mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcgQ5f5xF7o

i made a little something

https://thunderstore.io/package/JaceDaDorito/FogboundLagoon/

have fun

[prisma oracle]

[versed condor]

custom stages my beloved

[full garnet]

very pretty

[prisma oracle]

have fun finding the easter eggs on the stage btw

[lyric shale]

Lagoon clearly should have Hermit Crabs so you can get shot at while in the water.

[lyric shale]

Lagoon is a pretty cool stage ngl, got some neato enemy variety in it.

The real question is does the stage have Mountain Shrines?

[neon mirage]

nope

[lyric shale]

Certified stage 3 moment.

[neon mirage]

owned honestly

[lyric shale]

Personally a big fan of the stage, I just really like the water physics.

[bitter crest]

https://youtu.be/M_AsdWn9HXk
Randomizer mod is great 👍

[bitter crest]

stage slaps 🙏

[gray barn]

yeah really well done on the lagoon, i was shocked by how well the underwater portion felt. Very pretty

[warped citrus]

i wanna be an arsonist

is there an arsonist class

mod

like pyro tf2

[haughty leaf]

There was a couple in the works. No idea on the state those are in now though

[mossy lagoon]

try artificerextended with an all fire loadout

[loud moon]

I guess there's chef if you like spreading burning oil around

[timid blaze]

i'm working on a flamethrower alt m1 for mult, if that's for your liking

[loud moon]

Oh there's also Mel-T

[mossy lagoon]

hey bog are you still working on pathfinder

[loud moon]

"Yes"

I've made some progress these past few days actually but overall these past few months I've done almost jack shit

but I do have the mastery skin set up so I could release an update including just that, I just wanna add some more stuff

[mossy lagoon]

take your time I'm just making sure he's not dead 💀

[loud moon]

He's not dead, but there isn't much more I'll be adding besides that, an alt skill or two, and some finishing touches

I guess once all that's in place I'll do like one more pass over him just to make sure he's fully complete and then I'm moving on for good

[sterile flower]

yes hooray yes

[neon mirage]

Thank you man, i saw part of the vod, im very happy

Sorry for putting xi construct on the stage

It looked cool underwater so i had to

[lyric shale]

Xi, Imp, and Worm is a pretty interesting boss combination imo. I always do enjoy neato combination.

It's also nice to not see Dunestrider Stage 3 for a change.

[coral cairn]

ok

[lyric shale]

Seems legit.

[gray barn]

just a personal hatred towards em, they fit well though :)

[neon mirage]

oh yeah no i dont want to put him on this stage 3

[neon mirage]

also yeah lmao, im not sure if its weird that i actually like the boss

[lavish dew]

I like them visually and for how speedy they are

[neon mirage]

also about vagrant, i was debating on it but he was already on a lot of stages

so what i ended up doing is that you can get vagrants without dlc similarly to how the base game handles it

so if you have dlc you get flying shungite

if you dont, you get vagrants

will implement a config to swap each enemy with its counterpart in a later update though

[gray barn]

oh i had a couple questions about the stage, if theres a third boss enemy assigned to it since i only got Xi and worm on my runs, and the interactable director total for the stage

[neon mirage]

the third boss is imp overlord

and let me check the credits

i think i copied rallypoint? im not familiar with how run changing the credits are

but let me confirm

i should really study the director and interactable spawns more often i feel like thats important lmao

[gray barn]

might be kinda important lol. I know the other 3 stage 3s all have 280 credits so I assumed you just followed suit with Lagoon

[neon mirage]

yep

i think the monster credits is the same as rallypoint as well

[timid blaze]

should have increased the credits so people choose your stage more often in lunar seers

[neon mirage]

nah

people should go to the stage because shrine of order is on it

i kid but yeah nah i simply wanted an alt

[gray barn]

free preon

[neon mirage]

true

also yeah theres only 2 spots for preon atm

[gray barn]

definitely a one of a kind map for this game though, honestly very well done

@neon mirage also gamerH_0ST has a good amount of info on director stuff if you ever wanted to learn more

[neon mirage]

sick ill check it out

i plan to make more maps so ye i think thatll be useful

also yeah it is the same as rallypoint

[gray barn]

yeah he'll hook you up with whatever info you need, and i'm excited for future projects

[pearl shard]

are there any mods that increase lunar coin drop rates?

[eager copper]

Hey uh

[prisma oracle]

#SlipstreamSweep

[eager copper]

Did Aetherium or Starstorm just add a new character

Cause I have a new survivor in my listing and I have absolutely NO clue what they're from

And Aetherium and Starstorm were my last 2 updated mods so

[jade prairie]

What are some good Character mods!

[coral cairn]

im wondering why the ULTRAKILL Ost isnt working

[eager copper]

Pathfinder, I love :)

[neon mirage]

ye! also lmk if you have any balance suggestions and ill consider it

...other than removing xi construct

[coral cairn]

whenever i play the modded, the game was always muted, and then i turned the music on, its still just the org music of the game

[jade prairie]

already have I need new ones

[eager copper]

Starstorm 2's survivors?

Executioner is fun (personally isn't for me tho)

Nemmando is so much fun, I love a lot

Tesla Trooper is a highly customizable survivor who just got a REALLY cool new movement ability

[prisma oracle]

what is the new survivor named

[eager copper]

I have no fuckin' clue

[prisma oracle]

unlock method then? what’s that

[eager copper]

Forest's Treasure is the Achievement to unlock them which Is, I Assume, getting the chest on Sunken Grove

[gray barn]

[eager copper]

Xi Construct, my beloved

(very easy to kill)

[prisma oracle]

huh haven’t heard of that one

[eager copper]

Yeah it just got added in, I think

[haughty leaf]

Starstorm 2 Chirr

Accidentally added back in lol

[prisma oracle]

ah

[eager copper]

Ok, I thought it was that or Aetherium

I assume they're unfinished

[prisma oracle]

I was kinda wondering if it was Chief

Chirr

[haughty leaf]

You can tell by the icon (Also using WhatAmILookingAt which kind of gives the game away :P)

[eager copper]

Yeah that lad

I was unaware of what WhatAmILookingAt is --

Man. I was excited to see a new character :(

[haughty leaf]

If you're gonna overload your mod list with stuff then it's a recommendation

[eager copper]

The only chars I've got rn that are extra are rocket + tesla + Pathfinder and the enforcer/starstorm ones

and paladin

I tried out Daredevil / HOUSE.
As much as I enjoy house, I Feel like he needs a bit more tuning to really fit into Risk of Rain 2. I feel like HOUSE could lowkey be put in his own game with how fun the char is by themselves

[haughty leaf]

I've a few things. Mostly tried to stay with Vanilla+ though

Oh house was absolutely designed to be a clusterfuck experience 😛

[eager copper]

House IS fun, but it's so hard to actually focus on Risk of Rain 2 because you ain't playing risk of rain anymore

you're playing House's game

[haughty leaf]

And you know what they say... The House always wins

[eager copper]

I mean

Does he

Also isn't sniper deprecated rn

And Dancer hasn't been updated in a while (Dunno if that's b/c it's good or not)

I apolgoize dancer is grart

I love Dancer very good character

[haughty leaf]

Everything in that list is currently alive atm yeah

SniperClassic is different from Sniper by Rein. Reins Sniper is very much dead (And somehow still ends up in peoples lists) whereas Classic is very alive and well

[eager copper]

I see ok ok

[lyric shale]

I also really like Xi Construct, might have to do with the fact I almost always play Commando so I tend to never have any real issues with them unless I play Dissonance I get like 2-3 of them on Stage 1-2 from Mountain Shrines.

[mossy lagoon]

TRUE

best experienced with badassemotes

[jade prairie]

hey modders i need some help

im trying to get the railgunner model so i can port it into blender do any of you think you could help me getting it or if you have it could i get it?

[neon mirage]

YEAHHHH IM IN THE MODPACK

[merry kindle]

hi, im trying to play ss2 but my game wont get past 26% on the loading screen if I disable ss2 the game loads perfectly

[mossy lagoon]

deserved

[vernal jetty]

Are these enemies from a mod or are they vanilla? They have a radius that makes it so I can't use abilities while I'm near them. I checked the wiki but didn't see anything about them, so I'm assuming they're from a mod. Though, I don't have any mods that should add enemies, I only have character mods and skins. If they are from a mod, I'd like to know what it is so I can uninstall it

[haughty leaf]

🙂

[neon mirage]

How did you like it btw slip

[timid blaze]

yeah, modded, can't tell you where they're from tho

[haughty leaf]

I'm liking it so far. I discord streamed it to a friend and they actually really liked that it combined the water and surface stuff

"Could've easily been lazy and just made it all underwater but I'm really glad they didn't" was their comment

[viral leaf]

What character mods? If its what I think it is then I’m pretty sure i know where its from

[vernal jetty]

I've got tons of character mods. Which one do you think? I'll know if I have it if you tell me what it's called

[viral leaf]

Im pretty sure its from the Wisp Warframe mod

[vernal jetty]

I see, I do have that

Thank you, these are really annoying in large groups

[haughty leaf]

Yeah Skill disabling Elites are from WispMod

[neon mirage]

Sick

Though a fully underwater stage doesnt sound like a bad idea

May explore that later

[haughty leaf]

Yeah I think they just appreciated that it did play alittle differently depending on if you were above or below water

[neon mirage]

Oh yeah no i get it

That was the point afterall

[haughty leaf]

And it's done pretty well imo

[neon mirage]

I played the stage with loader a lot especially

[timid blaze]

add water physics to the void stages tbh

[haughty leaf]

Just gotta wait till the funny nullref spam is fixed with SS2s events then I can troubleshoot stuff better with the stage installed lol

[neon mirage]

Because realistically the water physics was an extremely simple mechanic to implement

Any body that goes below (y coordinate) apply an upward force

Very easy, glad it feels unique too

[haughty leaf]

Waiting on a flying enemy to randomly yeet itself due to that

[neon mirage]

There was a time that the force was too high

And if you dipped in the water its like jumping on the mithrix jump pad

You just go flying

[haughty leaf]

New variant? Bouncy water lol

[neon mirage]

Honestly may play with it later lmao

Could make for a cool hive cluster mechanic

[haughty leaf]

Super rare version

Make it the suslinger of stages

But yeah I've been liking the new stage a lot personally and not just because it's like the only actual new mod stage at the moment lol

[neon mirage]

Yeah no im glad

Want it to be actually fun rather than having people be like "but its the only modded stage that exists!" And its actuslly ass

And i hope to refine my craft and produce more bangers

[haughty leaf]

Definitely succeeded with that so far. Maybe in a few more go arounds the opinion may change but I need some actual runs going into it first before that

[neon mirage]

Mhm let me know of any criticisms you may have

But overall the reception has been very positive so im happy

[haughty leaf]

Mostly in "Ok which part of SS2 is broke now" mode as I try to break everything lol

[neon mirage]

I already talked to mal and neb about the bug im going to patch it soon

As well as shift around the enemy pool a little

[haughty leaf]

I think from brief running around with god mode just exploring I saw imps and funny pyramid bots and the rat fucks. unsure what else is there atm

[oblique token]

I am assuming to play StarStorm 2 with other people, they will need to have the mod installed as well?

[wanton rock]

yep

[timid swallow]

use profile codes to share mod profiles with other people

[warped citrus]

any client side mods that can tell you what items do while looking at them, as a newbie is hard to understand what lunar items are good and bad

and what to print

[mossy lagoon]

betterui

also pingitemdescription

which is self explanatory

[warped citrus]

neet ty

[prisma gorge]

imagine gups worked like this
terraria slime

[dawn rover]

i love randomizer

[viral leaf]

What UI mod is that

[dawn rover]

riskui

[upper estuary]

how do i install mods

[dawn rover]

there is a guide woolie made on how to use r2modman

[upper estuary]

Thx

I habe see

only before that i don't want to unlock other heroes i don't have all of them

or is there a mod for it

[dawn rover]

there is a mod that unlock everything, but its your choice to download that

[stray galleon]

Anyone using the TooManyFriends mod?

[proud shell]

anyone know which mod gives imps Strides and Visions of Heresy?

[upper estuary]

Yeah i will habe this

[timid swallow]

yes what about it

[timid swallow]

cheatunlocks by mysticsword

[honest tusk]

is this a mod? if so what the heck is that and how can I open it

[timid swallow]

actually there is like a wiki page on gunslinger, some googling should help

[honest tusk]

oh thanks I didnt know that was the mod haha

[sturdy crag]

Waila would have probably told you

[covert flicker]

i want to see a marge loader mod

[dreamy breach]

does anyone know why I might be unable to launch my modded instance?

i'm using the thunderstore thing, i have a modded profile set up that used to run fine a few months back, but when I now click "launch modded" it just launches the vanilla game

turns out i forgot to update the RoR2 directory i'd given it after moving steam to another disk

[vestal bay]

does anyone know if there is a way to fix the bug where riskymod breaks acrid m1 animation ?

[mossy lagoon]

how does it break it? it works fine for me with that mod

[magic peak]

is there a mod which lets me pick my starting items for a run?

[magic peak]

nvm found it

[mossy lagoon]

startingitemsgui doesn't work anymore

but you can use a cheat mod like aerolt or debugtoolkit to give yourself items

[gray barn]

dtzoom

[sullen shoal]

How do I use modded and play with vanilla users? I wanna introduce a friend to the game but I really wanna keep riskui and other qol mods

[wanton rock]

what mods do you have?

[sullen shoal]

Is there a quick way to share them

[wanton rock]

you could send a mod code or take screenshots

[sullen shoal]

@wanton rock

[wanton rock]

i think everything in here is client sided besides wolfoqol

[sullen shoal]

seriously? what does wolfo even do

I have it on for the pinging stuff so idk what can make it not-client

[wanton rock]

it tweaks some things so that might be it, you can try anyway but i don't think it'll work

[mossy lagoon]

ephemeral coins isn't client side

and aerolt

[sullen shoal]

It says "incompatible mods: ephemeral coins, r2api"

I'll check after eating

[vestal bay]

breaks m1 attack animation for me and a friend, disabling riskymod fix the issue

[mossy lagoon]

does it just not play the animation?

is it in mp or sp?

[jade prairie]

Does anyone know the location of the hit marker sound effect?

[vestal bay]

basically it skips the entire animation and acrid stays on the last frame of the animation, no slash, no particle

mp and sp

i will probably provide a video tomorrow

[grizzled anchor]

aerolt is partially client side as the player has authority on movement and skills and stuff

so you can toggle noclip and the server will just let you do that
or give yourself full crit and the server will just let you do that
or give yourself no skill cooldown and the server will just let you do that

the hopoo games

spawning enemies or skipping to the next stage and stuff can only be done by the server though

[wanton rock]

i just finshed mystic's new ending mod
||my sdp hard carried me and my 4 fps, but it was pretty cool, took a decent bit of time to complete||

[digital reef]

What mod is the nemforcer

[desert heart]

enforcer mod, comes in the same mod

you just gotta unlock em

[digital reef]

How?

[desert heart]

by killing the nemesis enforcer or whatever

if you don't want to do it, just get the click to unlock and right click him in "survivors" in the logbook

[timid swallow]

cheatunlocks by mysticsword

[coral cairn]

He knows too much

[vestal bay]

i suppose nobody knows how to fix this

[mossy lagoon]

report to dev

[echo temple]

¹

[timid blaze]

³

[digital reef]

Thanks i got the nemforcer now

[vestal bay]

welp it got fixed recently, no need for it anymore lol

[quasi quarry]

is it possible to add v1 from ultrakill as a custom survivor? maybe with his coin toss mechanic? sad thing is i dont know anything about unity, modding, coding, rigging, or what makes a good roguelikr character so yeah someone else would have to do it

[grizzled anchor]

would be possible
projectiles can have healthcomponents to take damage

could just do a really wide spheresearch when the coin gets hit and then ricoshot it into whatever the spheresearch finds

[meager silo]

Has anyone else played with vanilla void?

Vials look pretty broken

[echo temple]

vials used to like

not regenerate and it was fine

the buff was as unnecessary as the treasure map buffs

I also don't like the clockwork mechanism rework the old one was super fun :(

[wanton rock]

It says there is multiple options for clockwork in the config, did they just not put the old one in there?

[echo temple]

oh wait really what

I am the voices

[meager silo]

Yeah I really wanna dilute the void tier so I don't get safer spaces every run

What about bubbets items

[wanton rock]

I dont feel like enhancement vial is like safer spaces op most of the time

All i can remember about bubbet's is void lunars and barrier

[echo temple]

bubbetitems are kinda

the default configs I'd say aren't really ideal for a lot of them

also too many barrier synergy items

[echo temple]

@mossy lagoon hop on political https://tiermaker.com/create/risk-of-rain-2-content-mods-197384

[jagged bridge]

Vials isn't that OP. It's like Benthic, but has the benefit of being semi-controllable.

I feel that it has equal potential to ruin a run as it does to make a meh run into a god run

I have Bubbet's and Vanilla Void. Really helps the void pool, lots of neat items.

[meager silo]

Cool I'm gonna def try vv

[coral cairn]

strange, sometimes i killed all the Void monsters but the void seed is still there, and i cant find the last void monster
i used Aerolt "Kill all Mobs" but it stays the same, seed still there

[robust cave]

The real void monster was inside you all along...

[haughty leaf]

It's path of exile all over again "1 Monster Remaining"

[mossy lagoon]

oh shit

time to get political

later

[low hedge]

question soo do people need server sided mods in order to join the lobby?

[mossy lagoon]

no

[low hedge]

aight

[timid swallow]

got political

[echo temple]

noooooooo classicitems D this is so sad

[low hedge]

but classic items are funny

[echo temple]

itembloatfix is (S)mo good

[full garnet]

shoutout to the void parasite item for sucking

[digital reef]

Is there a warhammer/ spacemarine mod?

[raw rapids]

wait what

gotce over skills from the deep end guh

[raw rapids]

yooooo gotce sweep

[timid swallow]

you should add fork mod, phreelcontentpack, risk of ruina

[viscid cosmos]

We need a good mod pack for items.

[timid swallow]

rUYIvR7RDq

[coral cairn]

yeah that one, and the seed remains the whole level, locked all the loots inside of it

[viscid cosmos]

Lol

[dawn rover]

for anyone who has played with the miner mod, does the roll of pennies activate his passive?

[haughty leaf]

Should do if brittle crown can

[dawn rover]

yeah, and i think the exec card is activating it aswell, but id have find a roll and a crown to see if they proc it aswell

so i guess that would mean the molten coin from starstom2 would activate it aswell

[haughty leaf]

Yeah pretty sure miners passive just procs whenever something gives you gold

[echo temple]

ok well skill of the deep end is borked with

multiplayer

[mossy lagoon]

LiT over astherjum and mystics ikems

[wild pendant]

does anyone happen to just have a bepinex file with R2api allready installed and working because I couldnt get it to work and ive kinda given up

im not sure if it even works like that but im willing to try

[timid blaze]

Add an f tier for randomskills

[wanton rock]

You're trying to use mods, right?
I'd recommend using r2modman, which is pinned here

[wild pendant]

even that didnt work, i tried

i also tried death mod manager

or whatever its called

[wanton rock]

What was the error

[wild pendant]

there was no error it just refused to open and when i went to the files bepinex wasnt even there

[wanton rock]

Did you set up r2modman?

[mossy lagoon]

death mod manager what the hell lol

is even that

[timid swallow]

aetherium's good part is lunars so

[wild pendant]

yeah, i did everything it told me to

[timid swallow]

braisers need to be configed out too

[mossy lagoon]

i like brasiers and most of the items

[low hedge]

only skins for a few survivors and thats it soo far

[mossy lagoon]

also progression and regression

[wild pendant]

and every tutorial ive seen on manual installation is from like 3 years ago and doesnt work for me

[mossy lagoon]

did you check the help tab

[wanton rock]

I like aetherium

Sanguines feel like decent elites, items are good, and i really like the artifacts

Braziers are definetly too op though

[wild pendant]

what help tab

oh the guide? yea

when trying to manually install r2api I wasnt sure if to replace the plugins folder in bepinex wit hthe r2api one or if i should just place the r2api one in the bepinex one

also what do i do with risk of thunder

[mossy lagoon]

I mean the help tab of the mod manager

when you were having issues with it

[wild pendant]

wdym

the mod manager didnt even open

[haughty leaf]

The mod manager ,R2modman or thunderstore mod manager, should literally be a case of click mod you want and you're sorted

[wild pendant]

but how do i click the mod i want if the manager itself isnt opening?!

[viscid cosmos]

I wonder what are some of the best items mods?

[wanton rock]

Ok so what exactly did you try to open? I mean like where... exactly... did you open it from? Like did you get it out of the zip file?

[raw rapids]

gamers of the cracked emoji

[viscid cosmos]

Lol

[raw rapids]

[wanton rock]

I'd recommend Aetherium (config out the braziers)

[mossy lagoon]

mystic items

[wild pendant]

i unzipped the file, clicked the r2modman setup, did what it told me to went into the folder that apeared called r2modman and opened the file called r2modman and it just instantly crashed

[viscid cosmos]

Got that those. Like them.

[raw rapids]

spikestrip 2.0 is unironically good

[viscid cosmos]

How can I even trust you 😜

[mossy lagoon]

it's good

trust me

[wanton rock]

Spikestrip is good but i dislike warped elites and the reverse roombas

[mossy lagoon]

roombas are goood

the elites are pretty pain though

vanilla void pretty good

[viscid cosmos]

I'll just try them out. Might be hard to see what item came from where. At the moment.

[mossy lagoon]

use whatamilookingat

[wanton rock]

At least they lowered the volume of the roombas

[mossy lagoon]

yes that was the worst bit of them imo

[viscid cosmos]

Good tip with the whatamilookingat.

[wanton rock]

I still hate them though, if their trails lasted for a shorter period of time they'd be fine

[mossy lagoon]

I think they're cool

[viscid cosmos]

How is the chenclassicitems?

[wanton rock]

Its a cool concept but i do wish their trails were shorter, because it just kinda covers everything and if its blazing i get like 10 stacks of burn

[mossy lagoon]

also check out vanillavoid

idk I just kind of kill them and it's fine

[viscid cosmos]

Atleast I'll have olanty of items.

[mossy lagoon]

yeah imo less is more when it comes to items in some cases

[viscid cosmos]

At the moment I'm looking for quality over quantity

[wanton rock]

2 things when it comes to items:

Each added debuff is a buff to deathmark (not a huge deal, still sort of worth noting)

Each item added makes it harder to get another specific item in a pool, making stuff like crit or movement speed harder to get

[viscid cosmos]

Makes sense.

How many item mods you guys play with?

[raw rapids]

ehhhh

[timid swallow]

uh let me count

[raw rapids]

1 😼

guess which one it is

[viscid cosmos]

Yeah, I think I can guess.

[timid swallow]

25

5 of them add like one item

[viscid cosmos]

Still alot.

[echo temple]

the trails don't have a proc co

[wanton rock]

Where was i getting burn from

[echo temple]

uhh not them because the only way they apply the burn is exploding which is nowhere near enough to give you 10 burn stacks

[wanton rock]

Yeah

[mossy lagoon]

3

[viscid cosmos]

Alot less.

[mossy lagoon]

than what

[viscid cosmos]

The last guy who set 25

[mossy lagoon]

I thought he was joking honestly

@timid swallow what mods

[viscid cosmos]

No idea.

[timid swallow]

spireitems, spikestrip 2.0, bubbet's items, mysticsitems, 1nsideritems, hex3mod, phreel's content pack, TinkersSatchel, vanillavoid, UnofficialRiskOfRuina, Aetherium, ClassicItems, Gamers Of the Cracked Emoji, Stormy Items, mystics' bad items, melting pot, lostintransit, starstorm2, bingus, deathregards, standalone ancientscepter, kokositembox, kingitems, magnifying glass, ancient pod, repair kit

no tsunami, cloudburst and supplydrop hurts tbh

[mossy lagoon]

is it even playable

[timid swallow]

surprisingly

[tawdry bloom]

Spire items

[prisma oracle]

no way its risk of rain 2 mercenary real

[haughty leaf]

But are they an Eviscerate or a Slicing Winds mercenary?

[tawdry bloom]

Sw

I am the true merc

[prisma oracle]

cringe

sorry I gotta reject you

[echo temple]

I alternate between using like 3

[raw rapids]

[raw rapids]

gotce, spire items, and bubbet's I assume

[echo temple]

I use spikestrip 2.0 then like switch between starstorm2, lost in transit, aetherium, and mystics

[tawdry bloom]

I am sorry but your opinion is wrong

[echo temple]

Then sometimes throw in insiders and bubbets if I want like

The funder

[prisma oracle]

cope and seethe and piss

[raw rapids]

no gotce? 😭

[tawdry bloom]

No

I shall not do any of those things

[echo temple]

Oh yeah sometimes that

I'd play gotce more if the crash and instant death items just didn't exist tho

[raw rapids]

you can config those out tho

😼

[haughty leaf]

Always rulebookunlocker to yeet them from existence too 😛

[echo temple]

Ok this is gonna sound weird but like

I like the vanilla modded experience

I'm usually more of a vanilla person anyways when it comes to games and use mods very uhh what's the word

Idk but I like experiencing what the mod has to offer in its entirety instead of just making adjustments to everything I dislike

[mossy lagoon]

if you dislike one or two items from a 50 item mod you'd rather just turn the whole thing off?

I do get the mindset though

[echo temple]

I mean its more like I wouldn't let like

[mossy lagoon]

i usually prefer to experience the modders visions as such, but a modder can't account for everybody's modlist or balance preferences

[echo temple]

Something I don't enjoy I just instantly disable because it's just a part of the overall mod so I can make a judgment overall that I think is more applicable

[mossy lagoon]

plus they like to fucking troll all the time

[prisma oracle]

as they should

[echo temple]

If I could say mysticsitems is my favorite mod if I just config a bunch of the items I would also just say sotv is the best dlc ever just nerf the void items make the reds not super lame and make voidling fun

This is obviously an exaggeration but you get the idea

[mossy lagoon]

sort of but I think if you can make it your favorite mod by turning numbers down then that counts

[haughty leaf]

I tend to keep most of a mod active as wel at least for awhile to get a feel for it. Though with Mystics I insta config'd wirehack back down to 1 free item cause 2 from a printer is busted lol

[mossy lagoon]

yes

[echo temple]

Ok yeah that's the type of configuration I'd do

[mossy lagoon]

and turn down some of the defense items and disable damn ass plat card

[echo temple]

But everytime I wanna just play the mod with someone's modpack that doesn't use it yet I don't wanna go "oh lemme config this this and this" so often we just end up not using the mod

[haughty leaf]

I try to not basically destroy the mod unless it feels like it's detrimental to the enjoyment or such

Though I'm at the advantage with mod runs with friends cause I'm the Arbiter of the group that shares the code lol

[prisma oracle]

wait huuuuh when did that get changed

[haughty leaf]

Think like forever ago?

[prisma oracle]

that does sound OP lmao, one was already enough

fair I haven't played Mystic's in a decent while

[haughty leaf]

I put it back to 1 basically the moment the config changed lol

[echo temple]

I think I like don't enjoy value configuration because it just makes items super inconsistent inbetween different modpacks
You just boot up someone elses modpack and then the items are just "Oh what are the stats on this" which is what grooves alarm just kinda makes fun of

[haughty leaf]

Cause like any thing that generates items at no cost is going to be inherently super strong

[mossy lagoon]

I suppose I do come at this from the point of view of the pack curator

I don't really play other peoples packs bc my friends don't do modding like that

[haughty leaf]

Same

They're basically playing my pack 100% of the time

[prisma oracle]

I do agree with europe though I prefer playing with the mod creator's vision entirely
configs are much appreciated but I basically never change them unless its causing bugs

[haughty leaf]

I don't normally config but if it's glaring then yeah I'll just change it/disable it depending on the situation

[mossy lagoon]

balance issues is a bug to me

[prisma oracle]

so then ror2 is a bug?

[echo temple]

Me when I disable sotv

[haughty leaf]

Moffeins phase round lightning is another example. I think the defaults are like very very strong to the point it actually overshadowed the shotgun lol

So I jsut config'd it down and removed the zap proc and it feels fine now

[echo temple]

I think I'd complain about the balance of sotv over most mods idk

[prisma oracle]

oh yeah I tried that mod and it just made phase round too cracked

[grizzled anchor]

console players:

[prisma oracle]

yeah same

[echo temple]

Why are Ben's raincoat and laser scope just the most yeah

[mossy lagoon]

yeah

[prisma oracle]

I say this as we add the most balanced white item ever to SLP

[mossy lagoon]

safer spaces literally being stronger than either of those

[haughty leaf]

When the choice with void items is "Take it and become more powerful than you could possibly imagine" or "Benthic bloom"

[prisma oracle]

the 100% win rate item

[haughty leaf]

Void Uke and atg are fucking cracked out of their minds

[mossy lagoon]

and SS still betta

[prisma oracle]

mfw SS acronym

[haughty leaf]

War of the SS mods

[prisma oracle]

ror2 stop with the SS

[echo temple]

Like I think if sotv was just the items and was a mod a lot of people would just hate it right

[prisma oracle]

no people would definitely love it

[haughty leaf]

Just wait till I get mine out eventually in like 20 years when I learn how to do this shit

[prisma oracle]

but also I think more people would realize "okay this is like not balanced"

[echo temple]

I mean the void items being a new concept is cool yeah

[mossy lagoon]

what you don't like safer spiked storm star surge strip storm spaces

[echo temple]

But look at the non void items

[mossy lagoon]

2

copal

[haughty leaf]

"Slips Stuff Too" coming to a thunderstore near you (In probably 20 years time) 🙂

[echo temple]

Opal is just like average modded op defensive item

[prisma oracle]

pretty much

[mossy lagoon]

and still just a worse version of safer spaces

[echo temple]

Roll of pennies is just really weird way of gaining gold that specifically doesn't work in some scenarios because yeah

[prisma oracle]

roll of pennies is just yeah

[haughty leaf]

Roll of pennies was a funny item

[mossy lagoon]

i actually like pennies

[prisma oracle]

why

[haughty leaf]

I can see the intent behind it

[prisma oracle]

its like nigh useless

[mossy lagoon]

not for me

[echo temple]

Pennies is you get hit by a blazing elite and buy the entire stage 1 and 2 then you scrap it

[haughty leaf]

It reacts very weirdly to dots

[mossy lagoon]

maybe it's bc I use riskymod which changes gold scaling but it stays useful longer

[grizzled anchor]

pennies is just you no longer need to worry about money

[prisma oracle]

that is definitely why then

[grizzled anchor]

me when i leave stage one with thousands because the blazing wisp spawned

[prisma oracle]

imagine using rebalance mods though 💤

[haughty leaf]

The brittle Crown change though was 🤔

[mossy lagoon]

bc I like it

and vanilla balance is

[echo temple]

The brittle crown change where they removed the downside is awesome

[mossy lagoon]

that was not intentional I don't think lol

[haughty leaf]

The down side is.. You gotta kill the enemy killing you

[echo temple]

The downside was if you died you didn't get the money back

[grizzled anchor]

the hopoo games completely reworking brittle crown instead of just making it not proc on self damage

[haughty leaf]

Which is pretty bad. I wanna die with my money 😠

[echo temple]

Can someone made a lunar where the downside is like

All stats down if the run ends

[haughty leaf]

Persists through runs

[echo temple]

Ok I am never saying like again you guys are bullies

[haughty leaf]

Get on it Gotce

[grizzled anchor]

that sounds like such a gotce thing

[haughty leaf]

You gotta complete the run with the item to reset the stat loss

[prisma oracle]

when can we get a mod that makes every item in the game a lunar

[grizzled anchor]

item that gives stat increases/decreases depending on how much your inventory conforms to the woolie tier list

[haughty leaf]

Also add a funny artifact that forces random gotce items onto you every stage

[grizzled anchor]

C tier and below reduce your stats and A tier and above raise your stats

[echo temple]

Does woolie realize that spare drone parts is just like top 3 reds yet or no

[grizzled anchor]

he still has it in C tier

and he still has laser scope in A

[haughty leaf]

Probably top 3 reds that get him killed cause he didn't pay attention lol

[prisma oracle]

why does laser scope not give crit chance again

what thought process is that

[haughty leaf]

Because the funny

[echo temple]

Because hard synergy items

[grizzled anchor]

im 99% certain that hopoo only played railgunner when playtesting

[echo temple]

It's like a theme of the dlc you wouldn't understand

[prisma oracle]

oh no I noticed

[haughty leaf]

I liked Starstorms funny erratic gadget version better

[prisma oracle]

but still like
how does ss2 get it right

and then basegame fucks it up

[haughty leaf]

+50% crit dmg, +10% crit and back in the day it shot that +50% crit damge as a funny laser lol

[grizzled anchor]

laser scope rework: increases fov effect by +3.4

[haughty leaf]

I did like how the SS1 creator was like "100% felt way too strong so I made it 50%" too and then we see laser scope 😛

[echo temple]

I think literally any other idea for laser scope is cooler than what we got

[grizzled anchor]

ror1 didnt have delicate watch and behemoth

[haughty leaf]

It had some form of Behemoth atleast