#prismatic-trials

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carmine galleon
scenic surge
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me

zenith plinth
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33 damn

scenic surge
scenic surge
zenith plinth
scenic surge
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though anything from 33-36 is good for me

zenith plinth
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36 is good for me that's my first 35 since i do a slow crystal 1

carmine galleon
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how are you getting below 37

zenith plinth
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vid inc

carmine galleon
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you know what

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i think its because of all the time i take walking to the tele after killing the last lemurian

zenith plinth
carmine galleon
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he never likes walking to the teleporter

zenith plinth
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oh if you're walking to the tele that's definitely why

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yeah that's the dumbest part

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oh were you expecting a huntress clip @zenith plinth LMAO

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my bad

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AHHAHA

scenic surge
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38 or so huntress seems doable with crit glaive

zenith plinth
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there's a faster s1 but it requires grapple crit

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on crystal 3 i mean, not 2

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i got 1:22 with manually killing 2 stone golems?? what

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i messed up preon

scenic surge
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sub 1:30 huntress is easy

fleet crow
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A lot of people get sub :30 as Huntress

zenith plinth
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if you can beat my loader time i'll uh

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give you a kiss or something c_mwah

scenic surge
zenith plinth
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you've been doing it like 30min chill

scenic surge
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i had to stoop as low as to use arrow rain

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@zenith plinth ^ huntress

carmine galleon
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except without messing up and stuff

scenic surge
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No preon

carmine galleon
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fail

scenic surge
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maybe no preon is faster, but i don’t wanna deal with them

zenith plinth
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i just doing it slow

carmine galleon
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saved 8 second:)

dawn trail
sly drum
scenic surge
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ah rly thx

zenith plinth
zenith plinth
zenith plinth
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i've never seen any risk of rain content, i just liked the game, joined here and started doing trials a few days ago

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finally cathide

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no way a bird just ruined my best pace run

carmine galleon
zenith plinth
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^that's the best strat

dawn trail
zenith plinth
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oh i had no idea sorry

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maybe someone else can make a merc tut

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or just use loader

scenic surge
dawn trail
scenic surge
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oh trimp

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use whirlwind on a sloped surface

dawn trail
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I slowed it down and looked in the exact spot I cant do uit

zenith plinth
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i just got

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1:21 with a 41 s1 WHAT???

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that was such a good s2

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cathide i give up you guys are too much

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i can tie your s2 but i can't do s1, i get 36 when you guys get 33/34

scenic surge
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interesting s2, but s1 off the top grapple seems slower

zenith plinth
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i messed up s2 last crystal

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and yes my s1 is slow

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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(using yet another modified version of jasperr's route)

zenith plinth
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gj both of you

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you guys play really late for my time, guessing american/canadian timezones?

scenic surge
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🇨🇦

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also wig's time was set many hours ago

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just took me a reallllllly long time to beat it

zenith plinth
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do you have the vid?

scenic surge
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32s s1 woo

zenith plinth
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i need to learn first crystal s1

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congrats wow

scenic surge
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i think i did just did ur grapple s2

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but i do have vid of 12.15

zenith plinth
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could you send s1

scenic surge
zenith plinth
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yeah the first grapple is faster by like 2sec lmao

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that’s where i’m missing my time

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  • i messed up third crystal s2 and s1 actually
scenic surge
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yeah the grapple from the tree can get you over the bump after crystal 3 s1

zenith plinth
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my s1 is just slow bc i’m not the best at loader tech

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i’ll try the faster route tomorrow

scenic surge
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You can hesitate for half a second off the start for a better angle

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but make sure to yank right right after the grapple connects

zenith plinth
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how come you don’t die to the crystal

scenic surge
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also I do the knuckleboom(m1) because it gives you a slight boost, as long as you resprint right after

scenic surge
zenith plinth
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oml

scenic surge
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It’s barely noticeable but I trained myself to do it

zenith plinth
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i was saving that timesave for last i didn’t think i’d improve my time already

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it looks scary

delicate grove
scenic surge
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k thx

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oh no that’s a good time, might have to rethink my route

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or just fully hit the preon on the boss

zenith plinth
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how tf do you start tp s1 at 17 seconds i do not get it at all

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seriously just a skill issue for me

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i give up tbh, i can't improve my s1 time and the only improvement for s2 is not hitting the wall on crystal 3

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unless there's a new route that is

scenic surge
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I think the solution for s2 would be stand on the rock, hit enough of the preon to kill every golem

zenith plinth
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yeah i was gonna fiddle around with that but tbh i completely forgot, i'll try it later today

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i think it could be improved somehow if you have any other ideas/runs lmk

runic crane
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Mfw no glass in trial

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Like how tf am I gonna finish mercanery if there isn't any glass in my trial

scenic surge
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if you don’t have glass, if possible loot up before tp, chip away at enemy health and run away, and maybe go to bazaar for items if you’re struggling s2

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although I don’t know what the console trial is

zenith plinth
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different platforms have different trials?

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when #1 all platforms cathide

delicate grove
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loader is insanely hard on console

zenith plinth
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it would just take time and high sensitivity

scenic surge
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but there are probably more bugs to exploit

runic crane
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I Hate hopoo

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What normal person forces people to no hit a trial like I'm decent but I can't get the goddam thing

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And it's just gonna sit there taunting me and I can't do anything about it because I'm playing on switch so I can't just force the unlock

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PC player's get it easy you guys get the DLC first mod support and can literally force things to unlock through mods

cosmic canopy
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they main loader

scenic surge
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mods is cheating though

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you could force the entire game through mods

runic crane
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Do i text like I care

scenic surge
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true

runic crane
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I did all of Rex's stupid crap but I'm tired and done with this bullcrap

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I could've handled "don't go below 50 percent" but no-hiting!?!!?!

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I mean for Christ's sake I've done the other difficult things I've gotten skins AND killed mythrix(idk) on Monsoon

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I've done the endurance test that is Commandos unlocks

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I've finished Loader Mull-te(idk) Commando (Caption and REX without the skin yet) But I will never be able to master Mercanery fully

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I had a fragment of hope when I thought that going into the artifact portal ended the run but NOOOOO YOU STILL NEED TO FINISH THE ARTIFACT

runic crane
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But I'm bad

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I'm just saying there's quite a difficulty gap between "don't touch the ground lol" to "oops you failed the run because you even DARED to look at a Lesser Wisp"

void laurel
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The recent switch seeds have been pretty stupid, yeah, meanwhile pc is getting a ton of easy seeds

runic crane
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It's not that the seeds are bad it's that the challenge itself is bad

slim lintel
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ethereal is one of the few good challenges

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no point in a challenge that unlocks its self just by playing normal, I mean some of those have to exist just so you're constantly unlocking stuff but they're not engaging at all

void laurel
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The challenge is interesting, but it sucks that it's on mercenary, but it does make it more interesting

zenith plinth
delicate grove
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i bet theres atleast one person who accidentally unlocked ethereal

scenic surge
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I would’ve had I played merc

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loader: ethereal is ez

slim lintel
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pre artifacts probably not, post artifacts probably a few since glass/command exists

scenic surge
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so your “utility” on cooldown for the boss

carmine galleon
zenith plinth
carmine galleon
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well the previous was just trophy hunter s1 and the putting a artifact code s2

zenith plinth
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yeah that was a complete joke

small path
scenic surge
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are the trials the same across all consoles?

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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i guess you could do alternate boss fight with that

sly drum
carmine galleon
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on s1 I see that you charge the punch like really late so wouldn't that mean that you could use the shift to get to the teleporter faster after breaking crystal 3 and still have enough time to charge it again for the lemurians?

scenic surge
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when I charge the punch if I were to use the shift it qwould still have 2s cooldown

zenith plinth
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do people do monsoon speedruns

scenic surge
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nah it's just slower

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there's eclipse 8 if you want a challenge

zenith plinth
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i feel like monsoon speedruns would be interesting

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what is eclipse 8? i haven't done eclipse yet

scenic surge
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monsoon

  • start each level half hp
  • tp half size
  • double fall damage & lethal
  • faster enemies
  • halfed healing
  • 20% less gold drops
  • enemies shoot faster / attack faster
  • 40% of damage taken is permanent per stage
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hard without lunar items

zenith plinth
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fall damage lethal doesn't count with loader right

scenic surge
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nah loader ignores that

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to unlock it you gotta complete all the 7 stages beforehand

delicate grove
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we have a discord for speedrunning ror2 if you are interested

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monsoon is not much different from drizzle though

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for any% runs

delicate grove
scenic surge
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(shh)

delicate grove
scenic surge
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actually if your really speedrunning e8 infinite coins is... handy

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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hmmmM

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speedrunning: L_Focused_Convergence, L_Purity, L_Shaped_Glass

zenith plinth
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i have a bunch ofthings to unlock but i'm just lazy

scenic surge
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save file editing is useful for speedrunning

zenith plinth
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ik how to do that i do mods/art for stardew valley and it seems pretty similar

delicate grove
zenith plinth
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okay thanks

zenith plinth
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xenon btw

dawn trail
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I need help ive had this game for like 4 days and I cant do the trial

sly drum
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what did you try to unlock?
Survivor_Mercenary skill, or U_Harvesters_Scythe unlock ?

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if U_Harvesters_Scythe unlock
just do it like you play normally, except you only need to clear 2 stage and done

remote basalt
dense cipher
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I hate merc ethereal because all tutorials are always the pc artefacts, and are not the same as console

scenic surge
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Someone should do console tutorials

delicate grove
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No

flint atlas
flint atlas
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cmon get some noodles and use them to start an Engi AFK grind

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or is that "cheap"

dense cipher
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calm down please, its 1:06 am for me i dont want drama

flint atlas
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k

void laurel
edgy gulch
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I need a bit of help with the etheral achievement

scenic surge
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console or pc

edgy gulch
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Console

void laurel
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Well then you're stuck here with no guide like me lol

edgy gulch
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Artifacts of glass, command and sacrifice/chaos

void laurel
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Wait we have glass now??!

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Not switch yet

edgy gulch
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No not yet but thats ideal

void laurel
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Yeah

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Well, not sacrifice

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Chests are easy to work with

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Sacrifice is too unreliable

edgy gulch
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Without swarm it is

scenic surge
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nah in trials sacrifice is almost always bad, even with swarms

zenith plinth
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@scenic surge the new update messed up this current trial, on s2 you spawn WAY closer to the crystals..

scenic surge
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hhmmmmmm

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I was wondering about that

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Now’s my chance to best wig’s time, hopefully

zenith plinth
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should've dmed it you

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it saves a lot of time

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i killed 4 golems manually + awful s2 route and still sub 1:30 lmao

scenic surge
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where do you spawn? above the crystals?

zenith plinth
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behind and above

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like 2/3 sec saved

scenic surge
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oh in the cave?

zenith plinth
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no on the edge of the cliff

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idk how to explain

scenic surge
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like one of these places?

zenith plinth
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i got a 1:22 with a manual golem crycat2 spawn on yellow

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literally right on the edge of the cliff outside the cave

scenic surge
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ah k, yellow direction or white?

zenith plinth
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yk let me just trim a clip

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that was a really bad route but the only one i clipped

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it was the first time i saw it

scenic surge
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And a void seed cool

zenith plinth
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current route thoughts? cathide

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i had a slow s1 + manual golem crycat2

scenic surge
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are manual golems faster?

zenith plinth
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no

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i just messed up preon

scenic surge
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😳

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you could beat my time

zenith plinth
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no i can't, i'm capped at 35s s1

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i got a rly high 35 there and i can't improve my s2 really

scenic surge
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35s s1 is doable

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are you killing all the boss with preon?

zenith plinth
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honestly my goal rn is passing you or wig

scenic surge
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yeah gl

zenith plinth
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killing all but the top right 2

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i have the 1:13 clipped but kai was telling me about how i resemble tails from sonic so i'm not sending it crycat2

scenic surge
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you have an hour before I start running the trial

zenith plinth
scenic surge
zenith plinth
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yeah i use geforce clips, i could edit the sound out but it's just a 1:13

scenic surge
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although it’s more inconsistent, requires weird spawning

zenith plinth
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do you stand on the rock?

scenic surge
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😳

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from behind the rock

zenith plinth
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oh right

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i keep missing the far left one, the gacial one i hit it once/twice but don't kill it

scenic surge
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tbh idk if it’s even faster

zenith plinth
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i doubt it if you do the slam grapple right

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ugh i'm gonna cry, i got a 34s s1 but i messed up the s2 tp

scenic surge
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fully missed my boss preon

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hmm wig's time imrpovec

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if only it was still 1:10.40

zenith plinth
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fine you win ig

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but that time is crazy gj

scenic surge
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i find the s1 boss more consistent

cyan stratus
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why no preon for the crystals

delicate grove
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why would you

cyan stratus
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cant you just go directly to box instead of wasting time on crystals

scenic surge
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bceause i dont like

delicate grove
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??

scenic surge
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my free equipment is still at like a 40% success rate

delicate grove
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going straight to box means you would have to atleast wait for your punch to be off cooldown + charge it before picking up preon

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likely a massive time loss

cyan stratus
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ok

zenith plinth
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and manually kill many separated golems how would that be faster

scenic surge
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no free preon

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if you hit q + e while picking up it fires without using the cooldown

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pretty sure cabbage does it in the ethereal video in pins

zenith plinth
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hope they add itsadgecrid

scenic surge
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would be ncie\

slim lintel
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dont get a single droplet of hope up for that one

scenic surge
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yeah it has been suggested many times

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but still would be nice

zenith plinth
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why should I click 3 times to restart run wtf

cyan stratus
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also the patch stopped modded clients from being able to upload times when completing a trial

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although i assume you can still remove the flag saying the client is modded and it'll submit

scenic surge
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oh really?

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epic

cyan stratus
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so maybe there'll be less cheaters but i doubt it

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since mods remove the button for trials anyways, the people submitting times with a modded client are getting around it intentionally

delicate grove
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its pretty easy to 'mod' without actually modding

zenith plinth
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why they doing this

scenic surge
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i mean any deterrent will probably stop a few people

zenith plinth
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so cringe

zenith plinth
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but still you can break both whilst waiting for movement cool downs

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maybe it would be good but there’s only a few hours left

scenic surge
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tehre's still plenty of time

clever surge
scenic surge
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probably slower? bceause your waiting for cooldowns

clever surge
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yeah i think so

zenith plinth
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loader abusers😔

scenic surge
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oh yeah with new s2 huntress can get ~1:25

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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preon is within getting range

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so if you B-line to preon, you can instantly kill boss

zenith plinth
slim lintel
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I still fail to see how noclip oneshot no fall damage the character is considered skillful

patent bloom
slim lintel
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idk I always see people say theres a bunch of movement tech but the only tech I ever see is the grapple reset

scenic surge
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nah but the movement from grapple

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because it's based off the point and the direction you're pointing, it has way more capability to be skillfully used compared to almost any other mobility source

zenith plinth
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theres a reason only like 5 people have sub 1:30 this trial cathide

delicate grove
zenith plinth
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do you not record your pbs or do you choose to not share

delicate grove
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just choose not to share sometimes

zenith plinth
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can you send it bc this trial is interesting

delicate grove
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idk it was a bit slow

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maybe i try and get a better time

zenith plinth
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you’re literally a few seconds ahead of second place

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and like 6 seconds faster than me i think i’m third?? i haven’t checked in a bit

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that’s not slow

delicate grove
zenith plinth
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what.

delicate grove
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@scenic surge

scenic surge
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surprise

zenith plinth
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what’s your s1 time????

scenic surge
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31 s

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am i right?

delicate grove
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not saying anything

scenic surge
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damn now I have to open the game

delicate grove
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i know what happens when i share strats

zenith plinth
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can you send a vid after it’s over

delicate grove
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yes

scenic surge
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or 5m before

delicate grove
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unless zinq beats me

scenic surge
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which zinq won't

delicate grove
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then i wont share video

scenic surge
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yay we get video

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doesn't mean I'm not gonna spend the last hour or so grinding

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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just need to revamp s2

zenith plinth
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i’m just not good enough yet

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this trial is too hard

delicate grove
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you must run any% and become good

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zinq already gave up any%

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some people just arent built for it

scenic surge
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"gave up"

delicate grove
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you gotta beat cabbage

scenic surge
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but that requires skill

delicate grove
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we need to push cabbage so far down the leaderboard that he starts running again

scenic surge
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and rng

delicate grove
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no

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8:2x is probably a bit above average for good players these days

zenith plinth
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i started running itemless a little, idk any% strat and i’m not in the mood to grind artifacts

scenic surge
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just run pacifist

zenith plinth
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what’s that

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tps don’t charge without boss kill right??

scenic surge
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wr is easy if you don't invalidate your run by typing useless stuff in the chat and stopping your timer

scenic surge
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drones also do 0 damage

zenith plinth
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so it's just drones + turrets and dodging

scenic surge
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no no

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it's artifact of chaos + primordial cube and tanking with 30 raps

zenith plinth
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i. don't know what any of that means.

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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uh u could ask in the other discord probably and someone will probably help u

zenith plinth
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i can figure out the timer myself and for the in game things i will learn them/use wiki

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when does trial reset?

scenic surge
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in an hour

zenith plinth
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oh wait the console i forgot to ask, is that a mod or vanilla feature?

scenic surge
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vanilla feature, but limitted vanila

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you can't like cheat in items, but you can do reset scripts

zenith plinth
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what's the keybind

scenic surge
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ctrl + alt + ~

zenith plinth
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ty and commands i need to know?

delicate grove
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pregame_start_run and run_end are useful

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run_print_seed is also useful if you find an interesting seed

zenith plinth
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thank you!!

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oh you can skip pillars on th e moon?

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the ending is so confusing crycat2

scenic surge
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downpatch if you want a good time

zenith plinth
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i can't be bothered with that

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what is fixed

delicate grove
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downpatch is worth it

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moon is very fun with loader

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current patch still fairly fun tbh

zenith plinth
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what's the difference

scenic surge
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no pillars

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mithrix s4 easier

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no rescue ship

zenith plinth
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how far back is you going?!?!?!!?

scenic surge
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idk

zenith plinth
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how do you even downpatch on steam

scenic surge
delicate grove
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in downpatch you get to do this

scenic surge
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alternatively, you could do rescue ship for that amount of time

zenith plinth
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fine that looks fun enough

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do i use this or not

delicate grove
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yes

zenith plinth
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thanks

delicate yacht
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what did i jsut watch jesus

scenic surge
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fast moon

zenith plinth
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do i do 0.6 or 0.5

scenic surge
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@delicate grove 3 minutes i'm curious about video

delicate grove
zenith plinth
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fair enough

delicate grove
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i did get a crit on that lemur but i have got 31.xx without crit before

zenith plinth
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that's crazy

scenic surge
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ah that grapple reset

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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shoudl've known

delicate grove
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that boss kill is also very reliable

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s2

scenic surge
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oh rly?

delicate grove
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yeah only missed preon once

zenith plinth
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you are just way better

scenic surge
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oh preon though u meant boss1

delicate grove
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nah boss 1 is annoying

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but most annoyinh is larva on 2nd crystal

zenith plinth
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larva is so inconsistent crystal 2

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i feel like that trial can go anywhere with enough time

scenic surge
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it's another one of these trials

zenith plinth
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do i have my timer on with or without loads

scenic surge
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without

worn hinge
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Prismatic trials, I'm bad at them

scenic surge
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hm

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are you bazaar skipping 90% of them?

pale knot
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What is that

scenic surge
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going to void fields to ignore s2 with the boss

pale knot
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huh, that's neat

scenic surge
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@delicate grove pick one

delicate grove
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crit

scenic surge
zenith plinth
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lemme try

scenic surge
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...

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nice run

edgy plover
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heh

zenith plinth
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HUH??

delicate grove
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looks like someone got downpatch then

zenith plinth
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was i not meant to do it on downpatch??

scenic surge
delicate grove
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trials arent the same on downpatch, if you die your time gets submitted

zenith plinth
delicate grove
zenith plinth
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i'm sorry

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i was just checking the items and i tabbed out

delicate grove
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tell that to the judge

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you're goin away for a loooong time peepoJail

scenic surge
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like every cheater

zenith plinth
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i just died to the soda machine

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maybe i should just go on downpatch again

scenic surge
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(bazaar skip)

delicate grove
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well you are already a cheater this trial so might aswell try and et your time as low as you can

zenith plinth
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that sounds kinda cool but deliberately cheating kinda lame

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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yah

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wait what is the downpatch trial experience like

zenith plinth
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idk

scenic surge
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what

zenith plinth
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i just checked a few chests and tabbed out

scenic surge
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tabbing out ended trials in that downpatch?

zenith plinth
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i opened disc overlay

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easier saying i tabbed

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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idk i've never done trials downpatch i'm curious

delicate grove
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no, if you die then your time of death gets submitted

zenith plinth
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also where is newt altar crycat2

delicate grove
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the lowest you can get is around 4s i think because of invulnerability

scenic surge
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ah it was that patch

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jump off a cliff for easy 4s time 🙂

zenith plinth
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that's so lame honestly ruined my night

delicate grove
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dont worry this trial sucks anyway

cyan stratus
#

watch printer on s2 makes it free

zenith plinth
delicate grove
zenith plinth
#

i still hate having a time like that tho

delicate grove
#

come on cabbage up your thumbnail game

scenic surge
#

shipping request form cycles multishops

cyan stratus
#

what's wrong with the thumbnail, i just have some fun in paint while the video is uploading

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i used to just click one of the three suggested thumbnails from youtube and call it a day

delicate grove
#

i still do that

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not that it matters since speedrun content gets no views

cyan stratus
#

like what is this

zenith plinth
#

why did that make me laugh so hard

delicate grove
cyan stratus
#

that bar isn't very high though

delicate grove
#

doesnt need to be for me

scenic surge
#

i might not run this trial very much

zenith plinth
#

what am i missing i'm only getting 1:39

delicate grove
#

this my best thumbnail

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this might be better

scenic surge
delicate grove
scenic surge
#

mhhhmm

delicate grove
#

the rest is obvious

zenith plinth
#

do i need crits

delicate grove
#

yes

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hence why this trial sucks

scenic surge
#

maybe for like an actually good time

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bazaar grapple takes some getting used to

zenith plinth
scenic surge
cyan stratus
#

where's the headstomper for bazaar

scenic surge
#

i know it sad

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also note for some small speed: you can punch at the drone and purchase it twice, killing it twice with chaose

cyan stratus
#

does loader alt ability work as a headstomper for that

#

i've never used it

scenic surge
#

no, you can't grapple while slamming

cyan stratus
#

unlucky

scenic surge
#

and it's slower

delicate grove
#

this would be good for railgunner if there was no newt altar

scenic surge
#

like most trials tbh

zenith plinth
scenic surge
#

^^^^^^ no

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sadly you can't grapple

zenith plinth
#

is this where i change lunar coin value

scenic surge
#

no

zenith plinth
#

i got 1:24

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yk without downpatching crycat2

zenith plinth
#

bruh

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2:31

zenith plinth
#

lol

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0 42

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it was an accident okay

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also why are you doing runs at like 5am??

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i went to bed early yesterday

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1:19 cathide

scenic surge
#

Time to beat is 1:10 (wig) iirc

zenith plinth
#

yeah it is

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i'm done for now, i hate s1 and i had a perfect bazaar

zenith plinth
#

picked loader and get better time permanently

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what time

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1 55

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1 44 my best

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rly bad s1

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oh oops

#

that's my 1:22

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i didn't clip 1:19

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i cant use shift 1

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to hard 4 me

#

shift 1??

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idk how call it

#

sprint?

#

ye

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just easier to press than control for me

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shift cuz it bind on shift

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by default

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it gets awkward having punch on e, so i rebound interact to my mouse button

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yes i saw

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punching + slamming is annoying i have to claw my keyboard

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holding E + pressing R

slender tartan
#

why is merc:ethereal so dumb

patent bloom
#

Also, if you get a command artifact prismatic trial, stack Brooch for wisps and such.

pearl eagle
cyan stratus
cyan stratus
#

interesting

rain walrus
#

can someone ping me when we get a trial that starts on meadows

#

need to get my artifact unlock achievements but it's such a hassle normally

scenic surge
#

ah damn do I have to run this

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artifact unlocks are incredibly easy with meadows trial

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takes max one minute

slim lintel
#

frailty is stupid

cyan stratus
#

lol it really is

delicate grove
#

jump pad railgunner stronk

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do rex aswell

slim lintel
#

are you picking up watch or just tele rushing s1 cabbage

cyan stratus
#

jump pad literally does nothing since we have fall damage

scenic surge
#

doesn’t jump pad lower fall damage.

cyan stratus
#

for the 1st part

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no it doesn't lol

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if you change your momentum with some skill while taking jump pad you take the full damage

scenic surge
#

huh

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didn’t know that

delicate grove
#

surely there is a place where you can land that doesnt kill you

cyan stratus
#

surely

slim lintel
#

wait your not doing void field are you

scenic surge
#

probably not fields for Railgunner

cyan stratus
zenith plinth
#

interesting

cyan stratus
#

apparently arti is really fast this trial though, can't figure out how

delicate grove
zenith plinth
#

SHUT UP

slim lintel
#

arti is dead in trials cant do anything with 'em anymore

scenic surge
#

except that means they’re just better

delicate grove
#

we loaders can only dream of being able to hit anything from across the map and do insane dps

scenic surge
#

just use pylon

delicate grove
#

make pylon hit crystals pls

cyan stratus
delicate grove
#

technically 3 stages actually

scenic surge
#

3x as many stages as artificier

slim lintel
#

loader players able to cross whole maps in 0.1 second and complain about not having range

delicate grove
delicate grove
#

all you need is a jump pad or crystal nearby, and that isnt that uncommon

#

even with those she still gets some decent movement

cyan stratus
#

i'm doing exactly 1 crystal jump on this trial because of a certain artifact

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which loader players probably don't even know exists

scenic surge
#

oh I tried Railgunner a bit

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was painfully reminded about frailty

cyan stratus
#

shoutouts to @pearl eagle though, wasn't planning on doing this trial

slim lintel
#

frailty got me tapping out, I honestly can't be bothered to deal with that

cyan stratus
#

go play rex instead, you can probably throw the clay pot off the stage

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also which one of you did this

slim lintel
#

honestly railgunner is pretty fun and all but trials just arent hitting like they used to, probably going back in to full retirement

cyan stratus
#

railgunner is pretty fun except for the crystals though

pearl eagle
#

Been having fun in prismatics with railgunner myself

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It's not the same as it used to be, but still fun to do one once in a while

slim lintel
#

I miss arti, you cant even jump with fire ticks while charging nano anymore

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not to mention them adding drop to nano

cyan stratus
#

yeah and rex took the only niche arti had

slim lintel
#

cant mult do some funky stuff with certain double wep combos

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or can those only gain a little more height

cyan stratus
#

i don't really know but base mult does little to no damage

slim lintel
#

shame voidboi has uninteresting movement, they could have been interesting in trials

delicate grove
#

@scenic surge theres only one option

#

thundergauntlet

scenic surge
#

aaaaaaaaahhhhhh paaainnn

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Although wait a minute my route had no piercing punches why didn’t I think of that

delicate grove
#

wtf is a piercing punch

scenic surge
#

or just crit farm to the extreme

scenic surge
delicate grove
#

????

slim lintel
#

theres a pierce punch and a bounce punch

delicate grove
#

isnt that what you usually do

scenic surge
#

yeah

delicate grove
#

punch a crystal

scenic surge
#

but thunder gauntlet doesn’t pierce, it bounces back

delicate grove
#

thats fine

scenic surge
#

yea, but sometimes it’s slower

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Not in this case

delicate grove
#

there arent any punches like that you can do in this trial

scenic surge
#

gotta re-learn bazaar grapple with other punch though

delicate grove
#

unless you skip crit glasses

scenic surge
#

and vields

delicate grove
#

its not hard i tried it

scenic surge
#

have you beat cabbage yet

delicate grove
#

no

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im labbing 2nd crystal to teleporter

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thats the hardest part with thunder

scenic surge
#

labbing

delicate grove
#

?

scenic surge
#

what does that mean

delicate grove
#

when you go into the lab and test things lol

scenic surge
#

That makes sense

#

out of curiosity, what do you use to lab trials?

delicate grove
#

nothing?

scenic surge
#

h

delicate grove
#

h

scenic surge
#

time to waste 30k runs forgetting about thunder gauntlet

delicate grove
#

ive got four 21s tp activations with thunder so far

#

with crits the boss fight does seem faster than regular

scenic surge
#

it's about equal amounts of punches, but each punch charges for half a second as opposed to lik 2

delicate grove
#

also easier to get alot more primary attacks on the boss

#

which add up

#

just got a 1:11.46 with thunder

scenic surge
#

crits?

delicate grove
#

atleast one gauntlet crit i think

#

will post video

scenic surge
#

crit = cringe

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with thunder

delicate grove
#

you can land right next to the first crystal btw, its just a bit harder

cyan stratus
#

you can save some time by not getting the glasses and just getting crits anyway

scenic surge
#

i just get watch

#

it's probably enough

delicate grove
#

if its enough to beat railgunner then do it

delicate grove
cyan stratus
#

you're losing time on the character select screen

delicate grove
#

no?

cosmic canopy
#

prismatic trials is pain
to not take damage at all

cyan stratus
#

picking the wrong character

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my 1:08 is a bad run

delicate grove
#

my 1:10 is a bad run

cosmic canopy
#

you guys finish runs?

cyan stratus
#

i'll get sub 1 to prove a point

delicate grove
#

good

cyan stratus
#

actually that's probably literally impossible so i won't

delicate grove
#

but you will grind, because now you fear loader

cosmic canopy
#

GODDAMNIT
fall damage everytime
I forget that I can double jump

cyan stratus
#

nah i won't grind it until it gets beaten

delicate grove
#

ill let zinq beat it with watch first

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then ill do the double gauntlet crit grind later

cosmic canopy
#

again to same thing
Am i dumb?

delicate grove
scenic surge
#

@cyan stratus

cyan stratus
#

fine i'll go beat it later

delicate grove
#

just wait until 10min until trial reset so i dont have any time to crit farm

cosmic canopy
#

I hate this

#

EVERYTHING DEALS ME DAMAGE

scenic surge
cyan stratus
#

hmm that looks pretty capped to me

scenic surge
#

not at all

#

because crit farming

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although i'm not gonna crit farm because its boring

delicate grove
#

snailgunner doesnt stand a chance against crit

cosmic canopy
scenic surge
#

doesn't work for merc achievement sadly

cosmic canopy
#

yeah.....

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lots of pain.......

......

scenic surge
#

without brooch + soulbound + fmp

cosmic canopy
#

and it got reset too now I don't got ANY strategies

scenic surge
cosmic canopy
#

Is topaz useful for this?

scenic surge
#

Always

patent bloom
#

For Merc ethereal? YES.

cosmic canopy
#

hot damn
no way I can play like that guy
I dont even have 100 hours on the gams

#

on the last trial
I had some sort of a chance
but this one's pain

void laurel
#

What has been the easiest prismatic trial before dlc?

scenic surge
#

beetles and beetles with kin, although idk which one

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or any of the ones with multiplayer enabled (that was post dlc)

fleet crow
#

Top four players on the leaderboard

scenic surge
#

one of them accidentaly downpatched

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the others cheated

fleet crow
#

What's downpatche?

delicate grove
#

forbidden knowledge

fleet crow
#

Oh

#

Felt like attempting this run ¯_(ツ)_/¯

elfin merlin
#

This Merc Ethereal achievement is going to be the absolute death of me

void laurel
#

I wish there was a record of exact prismatic seeds every day

scenic surge
#

no

scenic surge
#

although swithc no

void laurel
#

Well, the seeds were the same for a little while

#

Such as the command, honor, glass, dissonance, and the equipment one on sky meadow

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That seed on pc is the same on switch

cyan stratus
scenic surge
#

oh no my time's about to get beat

heady gazelle
cyan stratus
heady gazelle
#

Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Hiko was already dead.

delicate grove
#

@scenic surge double watch time

scenic surge
#

?

delicate grove
cyan stratus
#

this is a 34.23 s1 while my pb is 33.17

scenic surge
#

I messed up vields that run trust

#

speaking of, cabbage do you know if hitting blue portal and teleporter speeds up money drain?

cyan stratus
#

probably not

cyan stratus
#

still plenty of time to save

zenith plinth
#

can someone link the vid of rail gunner run

zenith plinth
#

not on downpatch.

scenic surge
#

cabbage will probably send Railgunner link after they get a really good time

delicate grove
#

@scenic surge there only one option

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Boss skip

scenic surge
#

aaaaaah

delicate grove
scenic surge
#

no I’m not grinding that

delicate grove
#

Might not even be possible tbh

zenith plinth
#

is that the 1frame glitch

#

okay.

scenic surge
#

yeah sorta

#

oh damn that acrid is speeeeeeeding

#

just beat cabbages wr

zenith plinth
#

acrid movement speed buff

#

this trial is so dumb

#

i can't get below 1:19 crycat2

scenic surge
#

you using alt punch?

zenith plinth
#

no??

scenic surge
#

it is faster, but takes some time to get used to

zenith plinth
#

wait that's so much quicker but so weird

#
  • messes up my bazaar route
#

i think i won't run this until i get the railgunner vid

scenic surge
#

I attempted Railgunner a bit, and chances are the route is hard

runic crane
sly drum
little sierra
#

Does anyone have tips for getting the mercenary challenge?

scenic surge
#

hitting a boss the 1frame it’s spawning spawns it as a normal enemy

carmine galleon
#

is that only for the awu?

scenic surge
#

artificier tried very very hard is why, and if you try hard enough anything is possible.

scenic surge
#

Because sometimes the boss spawns in a different location

#

it might only be on beetle queens because their hitbox doesn’t have collisions

carmine galleon
#

so can you instantly tele if you do it in a trial?

scenic surge
#

yep

#

theoretically

carmine galleon
#

would something that splashes below the ground make it easier to do it?

scenic surge
#

doable with slam, sort of

#

But sometimes that sort of skips, which drops the loot and sets the tp to 99%, but doesn’t unlock it and the boss lives

#

boss skipping is weird and not used much, only really on AWU, but theoretically can break every trial strat

carmine galleon
#

would artis ball work?

scenic surge
#

Probably

#

only things I’ve seen it done with so far are thunderslam, spiked fist, thermal harpoons and DML

rain canyon
scenic surge
#

would it be doable with plasma shrimp though?

scenic surge
#

alloy worship unit

rain canyon
#

oh

cyan stratus
scenic surge
#

yeah

#

Funny how’s the acrid time was less than a secon off the pinned time

delicate grove
#

wait we goin for cheated wr?

#

i think i can beat that

scenic surge
#

we aren’t

#

or at least I’m not

#

... @delicate grove

#

where'd you go

delicate grove
cyan stratus
#

32.93 s1

#

idk how much further i can push this trial though i'm getting framerate capped

scenic surge
#

no crits i guess?

#

idk if loader can do this with my routing

delicate grove
#

you can do it i believe

scenic surge
#

also a crit on slam and punch with glasses is the same speed as watch

delicate grove
#

perhaps

#

with crit you can maybe kill the last crystal with primary attack so you save slam for the start of the fight

#

dont know if that makes a difference though

#

heretic is pretty good this trial you should try

#

also rip cabbage wr

scenic surge
#

wow heretic is fast

cyan stratus
#

my image was photoshopped though, i wouldn't submit a time like that on the leaderboards

scenic surge
#

are you using ruin on the crystals?

delicate grove
#

yeah

#

also heretic has wings so shes really fast

scenic surge
#

can you delete your run from the leaderboard?

delicate grove
#

only 1778 runs this trial

delicate grove
#

only took me around 4 years to finish this trial, pretty good time imo

cyan stratus
#

never getting this again so here's my route for 32.58 s1

slim lintel
#

could have been faster without jumping with the last mine

scenic surge
#

for reference, what was your s1 in the good run?

cyan stratus
slim lintel
#

when I was doing attempts its what I was doing in about the same place and worked perfectly

cyan stratus
#

nah i don't think it works from that spot, maybe a bit farther to the right

#

but either way that bottom crystal's hitbox is really stupid from that angle and trying to snipe it while flying towards it doesn't really work

slim lintel
#

sure is

cyan stratus
#

you've gotta help me with the movement tech though i feel like there's probably stuff i'm doing wrong and you're kinda good at that

slim lintel
#

good joke

cyan stratus
#

? you were always better at rex movement than me

slim lintel
#

not really

cyan stratus
#

?

slim lintel
#

only small maybe issue I see in that run is your mine jump with the big shot you probably looked down too much, could have probably aimed more horizontal to get a bit more distance but idk maybe the extra height/time to shoot more m1's is more

little star
#

hi, its been forever.

cyan stratus
#

y'know i thought that too but when comparing s1 times i didn't really notice any big difference

little star
#

cabbage, is that role exclusive for u?

cyan stratus
#

yeah i have a cabbage next to my name it's pretty neat

little star
#

u deserve it frfr 😊

cyan stratus
#

but when i looked more horizontal i was getting 33.5 s1 and other bad times but it could just be correlation instead of causation

scenic surge
#

gaming

cyan stratus
#

@little star did you do e8 no items yet i heard you were going for it?

#

that 1:05 is so bad but i can't get a better time

#

i threw a 1:04 on s2 tp exit

little star
#

u know, spicing it up happiesttroll

cyan stratus
#

lol go to voidling instead if you wanna do something different

little star
#

i personally don't wanna touch voidling xd

cyan stratus
#

i haven't even tried the voidling fight without items 40+min into a run

little star
#

is it even possible with the void dmg?

#

rg does have the mobility doe so

cyan stratus
#

i assume it's like, not really possible no

#

but technically should be

little star
#

yea

cyan stratus
#

i'll maybe try it with savestate and see how it goes

little star
#

sounds interesting 🦀

delicate grove
#

i tried low% co-op voidling with someone not long ago as loaders and we did die but almost got to phase 3

#

honestly it was quite boring

cyan stratus
#

loader doesn't have to worry about void dmg though bc mobility

delicate grove
#

yeah

slim lintel
#

are we talkin e8 here or just no items

delicate grove
#

doesnt change that it was boring

cyan stratus
#

e8 with no items

#

e8 kinda free with items tbh especially lunars

slim lintel
#

does the void damage trigger the permanent damage thing

delicate grove
#

free with railgunner without lunars

cyan stratus
#

i don't think it does but i might be wrong

little star
#

my friend did acrid no items e8, but im pretty u guys already know about it

#

kinda boring asf spittin and waiting lol

cyan stratus
#

the one with the old moon? or recently

scenic surge
little star
scenic surge
#

scales up

cyan stratus
#

oh, neat. pillar skip?

little star
#

yea

cyan stratus
#

good

little star
#

fell once lol got it 2nd time

cyan stratus
#

at least acrid can do pillar skip and fail without the run just being over instantly

#

lost 2 railgunner runs to that lol

little star
#

fr, i sweated alot when i did rg

#

i did a certain pattern before doing it for real so it was fine for me

#

ur vid was a really helpful guide for me frfr

cyan stratus
#

oh lol that run was rng carried though

#

titan on s4, no void seeds etc

little star
#

mine was siphoned > wetland > sulfar (xi btw) > grove

cyan stratus
#

you got through grove s4?

#

literally didn't get through it once because of larva

little star
#

grove was lucky for me, barely any larva spawned.

#

last time i got bombarded with larva and died

#

literally the worst enemy to go against, behind xi. xi boss i got lucky. it went behind the egg environment and there was an open space in the middle lol

#

it felt cheap asf, another reason why im doing another run but with no hud this time

cyan stratus
#

hmm xi construct isn't that bad though since you can delete anything before s4 pretty quickly

#

just gotta find a suitable spot you can run to if you get a stage where it can spawn

little star
#

yeah

cyan stratus
#

so when are you doing this trial

#

i've been kinda competing with myself and it's a bit lonely

little star
#

I don't do trials anymore ovo'' i might get back into it

#

i can't touch anything new atm, even with no items no hud , iv got soo much work to do

#

final year, everything is due in 20th may and im quite far behind

cyan stratus
#

oh lol i get that

little star
#

after 20th may im free and can do whatever

#

finishing education and going into adulthood is scary ;-;

cyan stratus
#

yea i've also been busy with classes but find some time here and there

little star
#

i should be doing my work rn instead of chillin on this server xd

#

iv really tripped myself over. Animation is no joke for uni :/

#

ight ima work now, it was nice talking with u c:

cyan stratus
#

you should come do a trial sometime though

#

instead of chilling on the server you could've done like 10 runs

little star
#

oh fr xd ill do some c:

scenic surge
#

many more than 10

little star
#

ill start a few tomorrow

cyan stratus
#

depending on how many times you miss the 1st crystal

#

i really don't wanna upload my 1:05 with bad and outdated strats but this trial really isn't going that well

#

so probably gonna post that one later today

#

then @slim lintel will snipe my time, right

slim lintel
#

no

#

I am interested to see your s2 though

cyan stratus
#

ok give me a second then

#

i'll just post the s2 here

scenic surge
#

yaay, threw a second faster s1 than my pb run

slim lintel
#

if you're not choking perfect runs your not playing trials

cyan stratus
#

like this but not bad and also landing on the tp instead of using mine

scenic surge
#

@cyan stratus yay

cyan stratus
#

get sub 1:03 if you wanna be safe

scenic surge
#

::::::::::)))))))

#

that seems slighty impossible

#

without a single crit i guess

cyan stratus
#

go play railgunner instead that

#

instead of that *

#

you get crits for free

delicate grove
#

why would zinq play a slower character

scenic surge
delicate grove
#

you can save time by punching off the bazaar spawn

scenic surge
#

hmm

delicate grove
#

its good trust me

#

instant downward momentum

scenic surge