aaa getting the glide off the map is tough
#prismatic-trials
edgy plover
rain walrus
tips for getting sw on current trial? its. painful
sly drum
the 1st stage looks easy in cabbage guide
but the 2nd stage is just so ......
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signal bane
Any tips for today, I’ve failed so many times 😣
Is it even possible?
Last trial was easy y this so dum😭
cyan stratus
great
delicate grove
just shoot it while flying to the tp
cyan stratus
idk i was just showing the crystal hitboxes
neat solstice
please any help on geting the merc achievment I'm going to ambry and going glass but always die to the little thing because i cant not get hit
vague kettle
Maybe be more specific on what the little thing is?
neat solstice
the little ball thing that the ambry shoots out
rain walrus
which achievement?
edgy plover
the first stage boss is pain to get a good time on
rain walrus
you basically have to slam the vagrant or you just die honestly
honestly stage 1 is just. rock time
scenic surge
@edgy plover s1 boss bonk
scenic surge
first time i did that but yeah
is nice b1
wonder if you could kill them all one punh
scenic surge
maybe with pylon plug
edgy plover
tru
scenic surge
nah wait slam doesn't kill the bronzong
rain walrus
the other stage 2 is not better
rain walrus
i want to pull this off honestly
i don't even care about getting achievement anymore i just want to beat the game in a prismatic trial
maybe bandit is better for this? no pillar skip but mithrix cheese
cyan stratus
you can get ethereal with mithrix too it's pretty fun
neat solstice
which achievement?
sorry for late response, I'm trying to get ethereal
rain walrus
thats prism trial not ambry
neat solstice
I know but you can get to ambry on the current seed bc sky meadows is first stage
I read n the wiki that if you beat ambry then the run ends and counts as a victory
rain walrus
ohh
scenic surge
only if it's s2
slim lintel
great
idk what I love more, the fact that crystals hitbox is so tiny or that they didnt even add the railgunner crit spot to them
cyan stratus
tbf pots/other stuff don't have crit boxes either
delicate grove
some things just dont have a weakness, deal with it
lilac crag
So a moon-aligned Primordial Teleporter will always take you to Commencement even in Prismatic Trials? Neat
zenith plinth
how many tries did it take to get this time?
scenic surge
quite a couple? Idk fully
33 minutes
but some of that was learning the stage and etc
zenith plinth
nice time anyhow. I gave it a shot myself and could only get just under 1:59 because i'm terrible at loader.
The most I've played her in weeks
scenic surge
Not a bad time, considering
zenith plinth
scenic surge
Would recommend putting a bit more time into loader, they’re one of the more fun characters imo
bcause speed
edgy plover
bro im not good at loader but
zenith plinth
Yeah, that trial helped get a feel for her physics, it's just swinging upwards from pylon that's still wonky to me.
scenic surge
pylon has momentum, loader inherits momentum if immediate grapple
rain walrus
where. is the newt on current trial
zenith plinth
pylon has momentum, loader inherits momentum if immediate grapple
Ahhh, okay, that helps to know
rain walrus
wait that doesnt help at all for achievement
zenith plinth
wait that doesnt help at all for achievement
it's a bad week for that achievo anyhow
rain walrus
yeahhhhh
zenith plinth
I wish prismatic trial rotated more frequently, it's fun
rain walrus
i managed to get a good slam on stage 2 vagrant 1 (one) time
scenic surge
Judging by ur coins you can probably reroll into a couple glass for ethereal
And if you want to go quick, hitting a mountain shrine spawns a slammable solus control unit
zenith plinth
The brass contraptions are real rough though
scenic surge
although if you wait too long probes spawns and it’s gg
rain walrus
The brass contraptions are real rough though
that single gunner turret by the tele hard carries rock strats
zenith plinth
yeah, the gunner is real good
remote basalt
limpid briar
same
plucky dragon
yo is today's prismatic trial good for mercenary's no dmg thing?
I just completed it, check cabbage's video
fallen abyss
alrigh
hoary stirrup
rock clip in the pinned isn't working for me
plucky dragon
rock clip in the pinned isn't working for me
it did for me but it wasnt very consistent
fallen abyss
I was about to get the achievement, slammed stage 2 vagrant, about to leave with tp.
Take 1 hp of fall damage
scenic surge
fallen abyss
why does merc have fall damage god
hoary stirrup
this skill is not worth it *scream
fallen abyss
it looks cool as hell 😭
plus I want to 100% the game
this achievement is the worst damn
ayo my run was actually p good tho
split pier
3 hours
fallen abyss
that's 3 mins
vital oxide
this achievement is the worst damn
Huntress mastery 
fallen abyss
I got it
frozen slate
Huntress mastery <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
how is that bad
fallen abyss
hate playing huntress tho
frozen slate
ok but is it fucking no hit something that is entirely RNG
and you have to wait 3 days for that RNG to reset
and you have to play it on one of the most skill dependent characters
sage swift
I got it second try on a day with glass on
sage swift
Huntress mastery <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
This was my first mastery
scenic surge
Huntress mastery is probably one of the easier ones because phase blink & artifacts makes huntress rly powerful
lilac crag
and you have to play it on one of the most skill dependent characters
It’s only fitting that the sweatiest character gets the sweatiest unlock challenge
rigid blade
So true
scenic surge
hot crystal
So I'm guessing today is not a good day to go for Ethereal.
fleet crow
Huntress mastery <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
Easy achievement
fleet crow
ok but is it fucking no hit something that is entirely RNG
Cabbage kinda has a couple videos showing that it's not complete RNG just sayin' (265 videos)
cyan stratus
lost to ethereal lol
cyan stratus
where were you 2 trials ago..
delicate grove
idk probably running any%
delicate grove
i actually tried out that strat on day 1 but didnt end up getting a run because i was trying to get the 20s activation swing
cyan stratus
20s activation lol
delicate grove
?
cyan stratus
pretty much never happened
delicate grove
did you read what i said lol
delicate grove
ah ok
scenic surge
i redeem myselff (slightly)
hollow olive
This trial just started 40 minutes ago and you already have a 53 second run 🤣
cyan stratus
had to do ethereal first...
scenic surge
oh wait s2 is meadows
scenic surge
i haven't checked s2 in 5 trials
hollow olive
hey i can see you guys on the leaderboard'
scenic surge
scenic surge
...
cyan stratus
is loader really that slow though
delicate grove
probably not
but loader routing is a bit more complex than 'shoot crystal while walking directly to tp'
delicate grove
trying out different routing stuff
cyan stratus
ok but the "shoot crystal" part is really hard
delicate grove
lmao
cyan stratus
and the "walk directly to tp" part is more involved with crystal jump
have you tried hitting a crystal as railgunner
delicate grove
yes its easy just aim at it
cyan stratus
i would agree if the hitboxes weren't what they are
sly drum
crystal hitbox is weird kek
void laurel
Is console stuck on one prismatic seed?
cyan stratus
that would be strange
sly drum
cyan stratus
very good diagram, well illustrated
hollow olive
does railgunner go to s2 or use bazaar?
scenic surge
s2 and then buttons is what i do
solemn fiber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsvI142uiQ
scenic surge
i'm missing 100% of the shots I do take rn
stone adder
wtf how do speed im sobbing
cyan stratus
do the trial normally but fast instead
scenic surge
here be some slow routing
scenic surge
you CANNOT hit a button after interacting with the computer
cyan stratus
interesting route, i recommend going faster on s2 and also on s1
scenic surge
true!
I should really have checked s2 apart from buttons
but s1 you can probably launch directly to tp for like 10s activation, assuming you can aim
ember zephyr
scenic surge
Nice!!!!
slim lintel
imagine sniping the crystals on controller
bitter dawn
Ayo
So do you need to shoot crystals to get to bulwarks
Or will the portal show up regardless
edgy plover
how tf is merc fast
frozen slate
because he is
sick marlin
How do I complete console ethereal challenge rn? I just watched cabbage's vid and the pc version is completely different
frozen slate
but hes on PC?
little star
but hes on PC?
Cabbage is on PC, botboi is on console
slim lintel
I miss when trials were 2 stages and 2 bosses instead of 1 stage and then void field/relic tele
sick marlin
Chaos, dissonance and spite, spawns you on stage 5 with hoards of lesser wisps and lemurians, 4 overloading wisps off the bat, only decent items are across the map and teleporter boss is a stone Titan like bruh
void laurel
I wish the seeds weren't different between versions, it sure would be nice to skip the whole second stage
left badge
Just saw cabbages vid. Is there any way to do it without tricorn? I don’t have dlc
mint cargo
trials have dlc permanently enabled I think
left badge
epic, thanks
cyan stratus
I miss when trials were 2 stages and 2 bosses instead of 1 stage and then void f...
very true
i miss the classics like 11% crit preon on 2nd boss
prismatic trial 5 was a good one
slim lintel
I mean, those sucked but you and maybe 1 other person ever actually grinded that out. I for sure never did.
skipping a whole stage just kinda breaks the whole point of trials imo. I have nothing against any% speedruns or anything but idk it's just not the same
cyan stratus
yea it shouldnt work like that
and like 20+ people grinded it out the 1st time we had a trial like that
delicate grove
Here is a cool fact, you can run trials however you want, if you want to run the extra stage then go for it
mint cargo
here's an another cool fact: people are ranked based on time and skipping stages gives you an easy advantage over people that played through both stages normally
of course we also have cheaters but in an ideal world they shouldn't exist
delicate grove
If the ranking actually meant anything then sure i guess
severe lake
Ranking meaning anything comes into "play however you want" ranking carries a meaning to those that want a high rank. Those that want a high rank are stuck needing to do portal for that rank regardless of how much they do or don't want to
delicate grove
I mean sure, if you care that much about it then you will have to do alot of things, such as playing a character you dont normally play
At that point you dont really have any reason to complain about it
If enough people want to compare their '2 stages only' times then they will, they just wont have an easily accessible leaderboard to do it, thats pretty much how speedrunning works
mint cargo
not all speedruns are equal
severe lake
Complaining or requesting a change can help however. What people are asking for is either a removal of void portal or blue portal all together. Which is actually a possible change that would be beneficial to the leaderboards as a whole. The request/complaint is still valid because it can be changed. "Deal with it" is something for speedrun leaderboards where they can't change anything about the game and this is what it is.
Removal of blue portal is a possibility and something people can reasonably ask for
mint cargo
there are glitched categories and glitchless
comparing both would be unfair as one simply has more of an advantage than the other
delicate grove
Why would it be beneficial? Beneficial to who?
severe lake
To those who don't want void portal?
delicate grove
So heres a cool fact once again, those people can still record and compare their non-portal times
severe lake
The alternative is add a filter/icon to recognise if someone went to the void
delicate grove
Its pretty simple
severe lake
Why not ask it to be changed though? Nothing gets improved if you don't ask for it
delicate grove
Sure they can ask, but theres maybe 2 people who care as far as i can see
Would be far easier to just compare their times seperately
scenic surge
void portal is ok, but it makes it so s2 is always literally the same / very similar
delicate grove
Then why dont you start a 2 stages speedrun category
The possibilities are endless
severe lake
Thing is, those 2 want to see how they did vs everyone else who did it in 2 stages. Of which there are probably plenty still on the actual leaderboard
delicate grove
We used to have a 4 stages categort back in the day
Considering they are two of the best trial runners i would assume they did pretty well
Most people of that skill level are not running 2 stages
severe lake
Needing a speedrun leaderboard for a leaderboard that already exists within the game feels like the leaderboards in game must be missing something.
delicate grove
I would be willing to bet on that
I should ask the devs to put an any% leaderboard in
Then we can have cheated times in any% itll be great
severe lake
Lol
scenic surge
you could just submit your time in here if y did two stages
it would not be the same as the leaderboard though
severe lake
That's what wig is saying. I'm saying the devs should cater to that by adding an alt leaderboard in for 2 stages
Or alt for portal
Whichever you want to call it
scenic surge
eeh adding an alt leaderboard for a skip seems weird
if anything just remove the skip
delicate grove
Most people probably dont actually play trials for speed
scenic surge
true
delicate grove
Just the two achievementa
severe lake
Removal of portal or an alt leaderboard would be the best outcome imo
delicate grove
I wish their was a speed oriented game mode tbh
scenic surge
😳
delicate grove
No rng just speed items and movement etc
scenic surge
or just remove rng from trials
severe lake
Wait trials still have rng?
severe lake
Oh yeah that'd be interesting. Though awkward for some characters
scenic surge
make procs based off a buildup: if you hit 100 shots with a 1% proc, the 100th will crit
that’d be weird
severe lake
Oh that's defs a bit weird but interesting
Could come down to a skill with the likes of ukelele, hit 3 times then do big hit for the proc
delicate grove
Nah just remove enemies and rng all together
scenic surge
but movement on any character but loader is sort of lame
delicate grove
Not my problem
scenic surge
save maybe railgunner
scenic surge
To contend with loader
severe lake
Does diablo commander count?
scenic surge
Diablo jumping? Would take at Least 20s, slower than the others probably
rain walrus
diablo jumping is strong and honestly loader climbing is a lot of waiting for cooldowns
delicate grove
Captain diablo takes 1 second to impact in speed mode
And he starts with 10 purity
scenic surge
diablo jumping is strong and honestly loader climbing is a lot of waiting for co...
but with 10 backup mags? You could bounce all the way from the tunnel
slim lintel
Here is a cool fact, you can run trials however you want, if you want to run the...
I have never stated that I want people to quit playing trials like this, and I have no intentions on dictating how people play. Just sharing grievances and complaining like I always have just ignore me
slim lintel
or just remove rng from trials
the change to bands was a great change in trials as you have a bit of control over the proc now, but trials will always have some form of RNG down to the random little slope slides that are still in the game when you land
if trials were more popular I'd probably take time to learn how to mod and just make a modded version of trials with its own character based leaderboards and ability to remove obvious cheater times, I also like the idea of being able to put in custom seeds to find fun trials to run and grind down with their own leaderboards but thats probably far to big of a scope.
scenic surge
the change to bands was a great change in trials as you have a bit of control ov...
Is that rng or just a combination of super precise factors?
scenic surge
if trials were more popular I'd probably take time to learn how to mod and just ...
that would be awesome, but yeah I don’t know how many people would do that (especially with a mod)
slim lintel
I mean, it's probably technically a combination of precise factors but considering its been in the game from the start and no one really knows how it works still I'd say it's RNG at least by human standards
scenic surge
true
rain walrus
can void seeds show up in prisma trials?
scenic surge
can void seeds show up in prisma trials?
Yah
slim lintel
I have a rare condition called shape blindness and I can't do the relic tele
slim lintel
it makes me feel like my mouse has a much larger delay than it actually does, feel like when I'm falling I have to be aiming above the crystal when I shoot or behind it if I'm moving past it
cyan stratus
here's a funny route i used for my sub 50 if you need s1 inspiration
was a complete accident btw i just rolled with it
slim lintel
lol I actually played around with that a bit
cyan stratus
it makes me feel like my mouse has a much larger delay than it actually does, fe...
but yeah this is the strat
slim lintel
wonder if the railgunner has a built in super tiny delay to the shot or if the bullet inherits a little bit of your momentum
cyan stratus
i haven't noticed it in normal gameplay but i'm usually not flying across the map in normal gameplay either
cyan stratus
quail
slim lintel
fr though I just can't do the relic tele, I always rush it too much and double tap on of the outer squares
cyan stratus
just need to practice it a couple times
don't hold, tap individually
and buttons have global cd
you're using empathy cores strat right
slim lintel
yeah totally but remind what that is again
slim lintel
what do those do for you
cyan stratus
they have a chance to kill something extending the tp time
slim lintel
oh sick
just to give you an ideal of how bad I am at the relic tele
this was a 23s s1
cyan stratus
wait 23
slim lintel
yessir
cyan stratus
my 47 was 23.3
where are you losing 7 seconds
i was gonna upload my 47 but if you're getting 23 s1's already then you're gonna beat me easily
slim lintel
it wasnt 23 flat it was probably .3 or something
cyan stratus
what route
slim lintel
shoot crystals
cyan stratus
oh that one
rain walrus
i should check out this trial
cyan stratus
i forgot you're actually good at this game, maybe i have to grind this trial more
rain walrus
probably easier for ethereal than Mending Brass Contraption Horde Of Many
cyan stratus
this trial is completely free for ethereal
rain walrus
ballin
shut harbor
here's a funny route i used for my sub 50 if you need s1 inspiration
railgunners be like "aight bout ta head out"
slim lintel
found a nice low angle jump setup that lands you perfectly to hit the last crystal and do a small hop to tele
if done well can probably activate tele in the low 12's
I just have to learn how to aim
cyan stratus
you should find a nice setup that allows you to press some buttons to make them the correct shapes
slim lintel
that too
cyan stratus
lol i know you're gonna beat my 47 easily but i'll upload the route anyways
slim lintel
tbh that run I landed behind the fence and had to go around it I really flubbed it up
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rORiqFT9yk railgunner route
s1 was pretty bad but artifact portal was ok
cyan stratus
are you tricorning it
rain walrus
i should have done that instead of grabbing hoof
slim lintel
watching you makes me feel geriatric
cyan stratus
lol no i'm retired too i just do a trial speedrun here and there for fun
cyan stratus
yea that's the general strat i came up with
scenic surge
I should learn how to hit shots and hit buttons faster
cyan stratus
can get a 45sec run this trial tbh
slim lintel
I don't think I have the thinks per second or apm to do relic tele fast
cyan stratus
recycler makes it much easier though
scenic surge
I do not have the thinks for sure to do relic télé fast
scenic surge
recycler makes it much easier though
really?
scenic surge
what does recycler do
cyan stratus
longer interact range
scenic surge
OH I though that was Railgunner
cyan stratus
??????????
scenic surge
didn’t know that it did that huh
cyan stratus
lol i get it i don't play base game either
scenic surge
??????????
I don’t know gun hitbox or smth
who knows, maybe Railgunner was like a crystal and their hitbox is the gun
slim lintel
what
cyan stratus
what
slim lintel
more like snailgunner
slim lintel
I was roleplaying as a loader player
cyan stratus
oh makes sense
had to doublecheck the name to make sure it wasn't wig for a second there
scenic surge
probably, but like I don’t really do casual runs atm
cyan stratus
do a non-casual run instead then
slim lintel
competitive hardcore running
scenic surge
do a non-casual run instead then
like what, hmm?
cyan stratus
i had a bit of fun with eclipse 8 no items
cyan stratus
speedrun is so much rng though it's just no artifacts with extra steps
scenic surge
but there’s also only 1 other time to beat so rng doesn’t matter too much what you get
cyan stratus
i bet it's wig isn't it
scenic surge
it was a semi casual run because the intent was to clear e8
cyan stratus
isn't eclipse 8 free with lunar items anyways
scenic surge
i bet it's wig isn't it
Nah wig is so ahead that I’d require actual rng
My run was 3 minutes slower
cyan stratus
hmm yeah that time is better than my no artifacts time
scenic surge
isn't eclipse 8 free with lunar items anyways
Def, most things are
cyan stratus
but i don't remember what i did with my no artifacts run anyways, i used to speedrun when everyone was bad at the game
delicate grove
no items railgunner e8 is basically the same as playing with lunars
except you actually have hp
cyan stratus
it's actually harder than it looks but i get your opinion, it's easier than with any other character
but it took me like a week to do so either i'm really bad or it's not that easy
delicate grove
do commando e8 no items next
cyan stratus
since railgunner is so easy, you go do that real quick and i'll try commando once you do it
also i have yet to see any wig railgunner gameplay despite how easy and braindead the character is
cyan stratus
i wish the artifact portal took between 5 and 10 seconds to appear, would be fun for trials
scenic surge
I wish artifact buttons were not
scenic surge
i wish the artifact portal took between 5 and 10 seconds to appear, would be fun...
It takes ~ 15 seconds after computer, right?
cyan stratus
artifact buttons are fun imo
well it's 10 seconds to appear
and then the tp time
i believe tp time without gold is ~4.3s
scenic surge
if it was faster this could be fastest trial
but then again that could be said for many trials probably
scenic surge
i believe tp time without gold is ~4.3s
Do you know the calculation that it does?
cyan stratus
uhh
if gold, increase tp time
but fastest trial is 4.58, idk where people get the idea that it's 42sec or something
scenic surge
According to pins it’s -1:57
cyan stratus
well, fastest with video proof is 4.58
i wasn't recording for that run, just got some good rng
edgy plover
TRUE
scenic surge
well, fastest with video proof is 4.58
oh rly? Where vid
cyan stratus
scenic surge
which update was that I guess?
delicate grove
also i have yet to see any wig railgunner gameplay despite how easy and braindea...
i dont tend to play easy/braindead characters
not very fun
cyan stratus
slim lintel
then why do you play loader
delicate grove
because the movement is sick
cyan stratus
yeah i was gonna say the movement isn't that easy/braindead
slim lintel
but it's easy/braindead so you shouldnt play it not very fun
delicate grove
well its not easy/braindead imo so i play it
slim lintel
I can make it to stage 3 on drizzle with loader but sturggle to get past 1 on rialgunner
delicate grove
have you tried shooting the enemies
slim lintel
im a passive fist
delicate grove
that usually makes them go away pretty fast with railgunner
whos gonna beat my pacifist time
delicate grove
ye
slim lintel
isnt punch like 3x stronger than a railgunner shot not factoring in movement bonus
wait nvm crit so no
scenic surge
but also railgunner is way more than 3x faster shooting probably
slim lintel
nah
cyan stratus
railgunner > loader for base game imo
cyan stratus
isn't #1 huntress nowadays
scenic surge
loader maybe more forgiving for new players
cyan stratus
for some reason
scenic surge
skill is the reason
hoary stirrup
ethereal guide on the way @cyan stratus? it's not in the pins
cyan stratus
uploaded it yesterday
scenic surge
pins are slow
slim lintel
if mods were smart they'd give his unique garden fresh role pin privileges in this channel
no way he'd ever abuse it
outer monolith
Today there is some cheese hahaha I got the archivement with mercenary!! Finally
edgy plover
i cannot get the raingunner superboost at the correct angle
cold lava
i got it
opaque mist
hot crystal
Console.
ionic plume
How do I beat the trial like a normal person?
scenic surge
wdym
ionic plume
Ethereal.
sly drum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsvI142uiQ
@ionic plume
median lintel
I like sky meadow trials :)
median lintel
<@159785673216229378> railgunner trial (maybe)
I was thinking this too, definitely seems it with it being a railgunner trial considering the tricorn
cyan stratus
yea railgunner gets sub 50 easily and i don't think loader can get that
median lintel
hmm maybe with her thunderslam on stage 2? 👀
I don't see any other way really without getting tricorn, which just wastes time
since rg spawns with tricorn it really gives her an edge
scenic surge
Preon loader is enough to kill boss1 with a runalds band
median lintel
ideally it would be best to skip any chests if possible, but also at that rate you could buy a tricorn too
It would have to be tight if managed by loader, might be possible!
sturdy moat
whats the best legendary for mercenary on prismatic trials
severe lake
Doesn't matter. You only kill one thing that isn't the crystals
And that's killed with a tricorn
sly drum
can't you just do the same like AWU on previous trial? like hitting the boss at the frame when it spawn? to skip it?
(not a loader main so idk, that's why i'm asking)
rain walrus
whats the best legendary for mercenary on prismatic trials
probably behemoth for faster crystal kills?
slim lintel
afterburner become an infinite iframe
ionic plume
<@271773906640044033>
Ok, now how do I beat Ethereal like someone who can't speedrun prismatic trials for breakfast?
sly drum
just do it slowly
destroy the crystal, pay attention to nearby mob
Tricorn the boss for instant kill
second stage just activate the portal below
it just, current one literally easy that the guide accidently make it looks like a speedrun
golden star
sly drum
every survivors can do this trial within 1 min easily, ngl
golden star
first time ever actually running prismatic and i like how mult spawns with vase
sly drum
Ok, now how do I beat Ethereal like someone who **can't** speedrun prismatic tri...
if you think current trial is hard, well just look the one before this one
if you still struggling
pick 
with barrier, any damage you take doesn't count as falling below 100% hp (as long the barrier still there ofc)
<>barrier is the orange gauge
<>shield still count as falling below 100% hp
<>shield is the blue gauge
raw cosmos
every survivors can do this trial within 1 min easily, ngl
literaly artificer, rex, acrid, void feind
please tell me how artificer could do that
sly drum
buy tricorn, run and hit the crystal
repeat
S2 open the portal like other survivors does
sly drum
oh, my bad then
i meant 01:00 to 02:00
sly drum
sorry
outer monolith
@sly drum nice time! So happy to get the ethereal archivement finally.
slim lintel
artificer can maybe get sub 1 min what equip do they start with
man
they've gimped arti so much
it takes like 8 m1's to break a crystal now
you cant even really set up the fire ticks to get a good crystal jump anymore wtf
ok yeah arti aint getting sub 1 arti dead
ionic plume
I did it! Two topaz brooches and a watch! Not breaking any records at 4:44, but I still did it! I beat ethereal! Oh god...
outer monolith
@ionic plume without going on the command portal?
clever surge
Wig, do you use blue portal or artifact portal?
delicate grove
artifact portal
clever surge
thanks
clever surge
Wig, this is my run yeah s2 looks bad but i wanna ask is there any difference between your run?
slim lintel
alright cabbage is an actual wizard. Idk how he got the right height and angle to pop 4 shots off on the crystals before landing and not hitting the skybox
zenith plinth
cabbage
slim lintel
nvm figured out I was just shooting like a geriatric
think I'm done with this trial, I'm just relic tele diffed at this point
scenic surge
relic télé is 😦
delicate grove
https://streamable.com/k1urig
i go straight to the equipment barrel then use slam to kill crystal 1
also use slam to get to the buttons
clever surge
also use slam to get to the buttons
aahh why didn't i think of that
scenic surge
you can go to crystal first and hit the chest afterwards for less money
and then grapple around bcause your lazy
slim lintel
I think cabbage did a bit of testing with how gold interacts with tele time and discovered if you didnt hit 0 it basically doesnt matter
I think there were a couple thresholds where it made a minor difference but I can't remember
scenic surge
it does make a difference though
because I remember there was a trial that where you buy adaptive chest and it saved like ~1 second
delicate grove
pretty sure overall money doesnt make much difference
if you buy something while the money is ticking down then i think you can potentially skip a 'tick' and get out faster
cyan stratus
can confirm that is the case
also why is nobody beating my railgunner run, this is a fun non-rng trial for once
apart from @slim lintel since he's scared of shapes for some reason
storm gulch
also why is nobody beating my railgunner run, this is a fun non-rng trial for on...
cuz youre good at the game
cyan stratus
yea but other people are better
storm gulch
yea but other people are better
maybe not at that, i mean i dont think most people are willing to grind until they get a run more precise than yours
so good job!
pretty impressive ngl
cyan stratus
back in the day that would've been like a 3rd place run
storm gulch
idk then but you did well
cyan stratus
but @slim lintel is scared of shapes and the others stopped playing lol
storm gulch
the shapes part is so annoying
i mean i can try going for your run in the last like 28 hours that it has or smth but im really not the best at it i just did it to beat my friend
cyan stratus
do it, it's fun and there's still some time to save
slim lintel
I really dont get how you get all the shapes to activate so smoothly, I somehow always target a button to the side of where I'm looking or it refuses to update when I move to the next one
storm gulch
I really dont get how you get all the shapes to activate so smoothly, I somehow ...
yeah
storm gulch
do it, it's fun and there's still some time to save
welp ill be trying to go for it in my free time but i highly doubt ill get it honestly cuz of shapes :,)
cyan stratus
get a feel of the global button cd, tap 1 by one and look directly at them
storm gulch
honestly i just copied what you did in the video and got 10 seconds more than u so its clear that im not getting it anytime soon
cyan stratus
maybe there's a faster way to get to the buttons with double mine downwards, and i didn't use mine to get from the shapes to the computer which could've saved some time too
slim lintel
I feel like quail kinda negates the use of mine a bit to hit the computer
storm gulch
maybe if you go to the shapes that are the closest to the computer first you could go to the back and use the mine to make some time?
cyan stratus
a bit but could still save maybe .3 of a second
storm gulch
the portal takes ages to activate so its okay if you go to the back of the shapes
idk ill keep trying stuff
maybe later ill keep you updated if i find anything ?
slim lintel
wait you can edit shapes after hitting the pc?
storm gulch
why would you want to change the shapes after you hit it
slim lintel
after you hit the pc I noticed it kinda goes through the shapes top to bottom so I thought maybe you could hit the top 6 then pc and finish off the last ones before it got there to save a little time
storm gulch
probably goes way too fast
or just animation even
also so wait does the money make a difference
sly drum
yes
scenic surge
I got a pretty good time loader, don’t want to change that to a decent time Railgunner
vagrant spade
best items for mercenary no damage achievement?
patent hound
best items for mercenary no damage achievement?
Brooch, watches, tricorn
Hell headstompers seem kinda cracked going off of cabbage's videos
vagrant spade
ill try it rn
patent hound
Is current seed command?
vagrant spade
yea
vagrant spade
tritip?
fleet crow
Hell headstompers seem kinda cracked going off of cabbage's videos
Cabbage is also pro
patent hound
Cabbage is also pro
I'm not denying this, dudes a total gamer but like... it's still massive damage that shouldn't be too hard to utilize right?
scenic surge
loader 0:52.35
you might be able to punch two crystals with a good enough circle grapple but idk
delicate grove
punching both of them wouldnt save any time
scenic surge
you could take pylon
and swing
Only reason that run was faster than my Railgunner time was because good buttons
zenith plinth
you're crazy
delicate grove
you can also get to the tp in like 13 seconds and hope for some crits
but lets not talk about that
zenith plinth
all i want is sub 1 
i'm stuck at 1:00.2
i randomly get tons of air off the rock grapple after the last crystal
it's so annoying
scenic surge
i randomly get tons of air off the rock grapple after the last crystal
You aren’t holding left and pointing left
otherwise you flick of the rock into the sky
golden star
im proud of my time for being a first time prismatic trial runner
zenith plinth
i'm stuck at 1:00.2
Ah yes, I do indeed hope you achieve that cool person I have never ever talked to
severe lake
Am I missing something with railgunner movement? I've got no idea how they move that fast
golden star
Am I missing something with railgunner movement? I've got no idea how they move ...
You have the cryocharge, the crystal, and the concussion mine boost you all at once in the right angle
Boost over, charge your cryocharge and throw the concussion mine next to the crystal
Then shoot the crystal at the same time as the concussion mine
golden star
Its pretty simple
Just time your cryochargs and mine placement
But the angle is pretty fucky
severe lake
No yeah I just didn't realise the momentum knockback scaled like that
golden star
Yea lol
severe lake
Thought one might override the other
golden star
nope they all "stack"
severe lake
Does cyro + mine work the same way in normal runs?
golden star
Yea
golden star
You also shoot backwards with your m1 when concussioned in normal runs to get more distance/height
golden star
~~Time to go unlock Cyro I guess~~
You use cryo for the trial cause theres no cooldown on shooting afteerwards compared to supercharge
You could do the same woth supercharge but its not optimal
severe lake
Yeah I knew about M1 things
But I had 0 idea how you would get that in a trial context to match loader
golden star
I have no fucking clue myself either lmao
candid loom
it is a fun trial today in general though
golden star
Yeah lol
But me and my friend are gonna start running trials to compete with each other for fun
Our meta evolved from merc with energy drink and tricorn to double rebar mult with tricorn to loader, and finally to railgunner
candid loom
ah yes railgunner one of the 2 best characters for prismatic trials
golden star
Lol
candid loom
one of the many reasons i love her
golden star
I wanted mult to work out so badly because he starts with vase lmao
carmine galleon
i dont have dlc
sly drum
wasn't the DLC auto unlocked for trial?
carmine galleon
dlc items not characters
clever surge
yeah me too i don't have railgunner
tight quiver
https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/hXnJPoa__TK3s/d1337wlitYyX?invite=cr-MSw5c1MsNTg3MDQwMDEs my best run with railgunner after maybe 2 hours
carmine galleon
https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/hXnJPoa__TK3s/d1337wlitYyX?invite=cr-MSw5c1Ms...
you
carmine galleon
https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/hXnJPoa__TK3s/d1337wlitYyX?invite=cr-MSw5c1Ms...
how could you D:
tight quiver
You have time to take it back, Im going to bed
storm gulch
cabbage im trying 
scenic surge
that’s a rather good run
storm gulch
i choked like 3 shots on the crystals so that wasnt so good
could just be me being a crybaby but i think the hitbox on them is a bit weird
scenic surge
^ amazing diagram of the hitbox
storm gulch
it’s… quite off
glad im not just mad
also do yk which of the top5 and above are cheated in ?
scenic surge
yah cbg for sure
storm gulch
cbg?
scenic surge
Do the funky cheat where all cooldowns are doubled
Also I was wondering, is mercenary: ethereal voidling possible
delicate grove
Also I was wondering, is mercenary: ethereal voidling possible
no
scenic surge
oh yeah 3 stages
scenic surge
i was thinking a simple 100% crit chance cheat
Then you could play it off as good rng
after you get 50 crits in a row
delicate grove
i think you can kill the titan with a single preon crit if you shoot the preon from far enough away]
slim lintel
rain walrus
Also I was wondering, is mercenary: ethereal voidling possible
how do you plan to make it through void fields
delicate grove
@scenic surge
slam probably not necessary on titan
got a 50.xx with this but i suck at buttons
oblique plume
finally did it!! (sorry for the shitty ss)
slim lintel
win+shift+s is your friend
oblique plume
Oh yea i did, it most likely extended from the red
storm gulch
i give up on going for cabbage's time im lazy
fleet crow
Zinq why is your pfp changing constantly
carmine galleon
<@624982364040331298>
I have to try this
but I also have to unlock the slam now lol
delicate grove
you have to get a 1/100 crit on the preon, i do not recommend it
carmine galleon
LOL
scenic surge
Zinq why is your pfp changing constantly
😳
scenic surge
you have to get a 1/100 crit on the preon, i do not recommend it
why did you do this
might just return to Railgunner y’know
carmine galleon
because it's awesome
storm gulch
yoo nice
scenic surge
i cannot aim as railgunner
storm gulch
its okay
real gazelle
how many stages is it to complete the trial
slim lintel
1
real gazelle
no it isn't
slim lintel
I have over 500 confirmed time crystal kills buddy I think I know what I'm talking about
sometimes they're 2 stages but this one is 1
sly drum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsvI142uiQ
@real gazelle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsvI142uiQ
real gazelle
ty this is going to help me alot
cyan stratus
@delicate grove ???
frozen slate
what about it
slim lintel
they're using an alt ability
delicate grove
yes we all know i have superior binds stop making a big deal out of it
fleet crow
*inferior
worthy skiff
I just got a lunar coin from each crystal tf
trail island
tight quiver
cyan stratus
i forgot to put this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzamZBpwOxw
scenic surge
I forgot about the preon existing
my entire run was too slow but showcasing useful grapple resets
rain walrus
this trial SUCKS
slim lintel
they all suck, why else would we try and beat them as fast as possible?
sly drum
slim lintel
prismatic trials really are like nft's if you think about it
sudden basin
are trials always this crazy hard?
carmine galleon
no
sudden basin
not the best first impression of prismatic trials
sly drum
cabbage guide make it looks easy
sudden basin
the video really helped
carmine galleon
this has been my stage 1 route so far
although the lemurians have been super inconsistent
and if i didnt kill those enemies at the end i would have save a lot more time :(
tough belfry
distance
zenith plinth
okay ty
r u serious
ik it's 2:25 but that was my first s2 run and i couldn't find tp
lyric egret
cabbage built different
noble linden
zenith plinth
anyone have a s2 route for loader?
cosmic canopy
HOW DOES ONE
NOT DIE
BETTER YET
NOT TAKE DAMAGE
FROM A TON OF ELDER LEMURIANS??!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zenith plinth
you can hit them all but 1 with loader
cosmic canopy
I'm going for ethereal
zenith plinth
oh i wouldn’t recommend that on this trial
cosmic canopy
too late
I'm friggin mad now
zenith plinth
have you seen s2 yet?
cosmic canopy
nope
zenith plinth
yeah it’s about the same/worse so don’t expect anything easier
cosmic canopy
just another bump in the road
zenith plinth
more like about 10
proven widget
i forgot to put this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzamZBpwOxw
thank you ive been trying to get that for ages
scenic surge
s1 based off @zenith plinth 's s1
zenith plinth
4 seconds faster tp than my best
nice run, i never thought about using grapple reset like that also nice s2 route
abstract umbra
How under the sun do I do this current trial on ps4
carmine galleon
s1 based off <@456226577798135808> 's s1
when you get to stage 2 do you not get 1 shot by the crystals?
zenith plinth
you have extra hp + items
also in case anyone wants to theory craft, you can 1 hit crystals with grapples
zenith plinth
s1 based off <@456226577798135808> 's s1
how many hours do you have? literally just curious bc of how perfect your movement is
scenic surge
when you get to stage 2 do you not get 1 shot by the crystals?
Lvl 4 OR in this case opal saves me
otherwise yeah you do die
fleet crow
HOW DOES ONE
***NOT DIE***
BETTER YET
***NOT TAKE DAMAGE***
FROM A TON OF ELDER ...
Cabbage
zenith plinth
ohh nice
first time being top 10 ig
still only first day tho, will defo be sub 1min
scenic surge
sub 1 is very optimistic
zenith plinth
i'm sure it will be around 55-1:05
technically it could go a lot lower
if you do grapple resets mid air and fight golems without preon
zenith plinth
true idrk average times, i've only played the previous one
i tried fighting golems without preon around 10 times, i had 1:30 finishes each time with bad s2 routing but i would always die after killing the golems
delicate grove
i dont think fighting without preon will ever be good enough
scenic surge
yeah preon can one shot
delicate grove
preon is close enough to the two crystals that its a waste to not get
zenith plinth
i doubt it too
delicate grove
idk maybe
if you punch and aerial grapple reset the third crystal then thats a fair bit of timesave
without getting preon
zenith plinth
if you ground slam both crystals from the air then punch right away
you could?? idk it's very farfetched
how do people have 1:10s with merc
so confused
scenic surge
probaabley ceht
delicate grove
hidden merc infnite dash tech 👀
scenic surge
*cheat
delicate grove
scenic surge
acrid
zenith plinth
i've never used acrid before i have 0 idea
their kit looked confusing af so i haven't touched it
scenic surge
is buckler on it's own enough to punch crystals lvl3?
zenith plinth
no you can't punch both, i literally just died to it
delicate grove
doesnt punching turn off sprint
scenic surge
big punch
zenith plinth
unless you do something weird with the mobs for shield
i remember having -5/-6 after punching both
fleet crow
Cabbage
scenic surge
you can charge punch crystas with buckler
little sierra
Does anyone have some tips for the mercenary prismatic trial challenge?
sudden basin
i wonder what the intended method for this trial was
Are these trials handmade or just randomly generated?
slim lintel
each trial is hand crafted by hit gamedev hopoo creator of hit game RoR2, each trial takes roughly 2 days to craft and around a day of testing. Thats why trials reset every 3 days
delicate grove
thats what they want you to think
hot crystal
They have an intern making each seed.
Okay on PS4 the new trial has command but also sacrifice. What items do I get as merc.
zenith plinth
how do you guys doing it less than 2 minutes
@scenic surge do you think this would be faster for the last crystal or is this just what you did i don't remember
also ignore the slam miss lmao
delicate grove
you wont have enough time to get punch off cooldown
zenith plinth
true that was my worry
i got 1:25 and i missed a dinosaur thingy which i forgot the name of
on stage 1
delicate grove
zenith plinth
oh yeah that
it's so awkward, is it luck based or am i just inconsistent? i'm like 95% sure it's me being inconsistent
why do so many people cheat on huntress
how many hours do you/zinq have your movement is seriously crazy
rain walrus
each trial is hand crafted by hit gamedev hopoo creator of hit game RoR2, each t...
if these trials were tested they would not be the way they are
zenith plinth
imo that's what makes them fun, but i know that a lot of people hate this one
don't blame them i just like tedious tasks
lemur got stuck s1 + weird route in s2 but here's my pb for anyone
sly drum
Okay on PS4 the new trial has command but also sacrifice. What items do I get as...
just as usual
for safety, if you can get 
and 
even better
for more damage
rain walrus
honestly for equips get capacitor, should be. not a free kill but decent damage against bosses
scenic surge
how many hours do you/zinq have your movement is seriously crazy
600, the majority in trials
I can safely assume half of those are loader
zenith plinth
i think you can check your time on characters right?
also i haven't really tried the grapple trick you do at the beginning of trials, the strafe seems tough and i'm done for the day
i spent the majority of today just trying to learn loader tech
carmine galleon
i hate the larvae so much
zenith plinth
me too, sometimes the spawns are really weird and they jump at me whilst charging a punch for lemurs
carmine galleon
they get in the way of me grappling the second crystal on stage 1
every single time
zenith plinth
really???
i've never had that problem, maybe you could record it or something and i'll look
you must be doing something different
carmine galleon
the very next run
ive even had one jump infront and mr president my grapple onto a crystal
zenith plinth
okay first of all why did you not mention you could punch the first crystal, and second of all that's the reason they spawn there
you're too fast on the first crystal, if you watch my run they spawn around the first crystal instead of around the second
carmine galleon
i punched the crystal because i saw zinq to it lol
zenith plinth
oh?? oh yeah
oops i forgot abt that
yeah to do that you need to be really fast or slow enough for the larvae to spawn on crystal 1
carmine galleon
yeah
carmine galleon
LOL
zenith plinth
still i only have ~40 hours so idk they could easily be right
are any other times legit? i can't imagine how merc can do this trial
also i feel a little out of place the 4 of you have your own battles going on and i'm pretty much exactly in the middle
scenic surge
Xenon is real
this trial is deceiving because there huntress times COULD be legit, with good procs
zenith plinth
who is xenon?
carmine galleon
hes num 20 rn
carmine galleon
i dont have any acrid unlocks lol
zenith plinth
i've never used acrid before so i won't take that offer and i'd also have to presume it's legit for the same reason
XD
scenic surge
Imma try to see how far I can get huntress
zenith plinth
can either of you send a recording of it bc i can't imagine how you'd do it with huntress
at s2 you can break the crystal from above
and fall to portal
zenith plinth
at s2 you can break the crystal from above
with default r
do you use glaive for tp fights?
carmine galleon
the boomerang detroys the lemurian
zenith plinth
do you use glaive for tp fights?
ohh most likely I didn't understand what a glaive is
the boomerang
scenic surge
seems like huntress is about 1:30 locked
zenith plinth
mouse 2
yes i use
i'll try out huntress once i get sub 1:20
i cant clear s2 portal correctly
the single lemur getting stuck on s1 is so irritating
kill him first then throw the r to portal
i mean for loader, but yes that would be right
scenic surge
k so yeah huntress is like capped at around 1:30
zenith plinth
that was quick
zenith plinth
got a 35 s1
scenic surge
but unlike laoder since huntress's movement and damage is always the same the time is locked aroud similar time
scenic surge
got a 35 s1
nice!
zenith plinth
i choked 
what was your s1 again