#prismatic-trials

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scenic surge
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nope

prisma crest
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What are the artifacts and stages for this trial?

scenic surge
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PC: Frailty, Sacrifice, Dissonance, Vengeance, Soul
on
Sundred grove
Siphoned forest

indigo snow
frozen yew
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nice pic

scenic surge
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yep

ivory moat
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Just wait till it’s artifact of command and build brooches and headstompers to 1 shot the boss

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Try watching cabbage

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He does weekly ethereal challenges

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He definitely helped me learn the merc tech

versed temple
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i'll give it a shot if ya do it with me as well. whichever merc takes dmg first becomes the sponge

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play something strong, like loader, afterwards

ivory moat
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It’s difficult, what you should do is memorize cabbage’s run for the prismatic trial, and just copy what he does

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That’s what I did, and I got ethereal after like an hour, having little prior experience on merc

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It was on a day with permanent elite wisps

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The hitscan mfs

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When the prismatic trials doesn’t have artifact of honor

versed temple
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wait today isn't that hard, theoretically, i'm just lazy and it's still difficult even with cabbage to go off of

ivory moat
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Although idk if that’s like a permanent thing I’ve only ever done prismatic once

versed temple
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since it's just speedrun first stage, grab missile drone, let umbra(s) die to fall damage attempting to get the drone, win

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^for today

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actually loader wouldn't work in that case, no fall dmg

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just hit third auto, activate an ability or two, rinse and repeat

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blind pests keep tagging me during the first stage, which is why i haven't cleared it yet. missed out on the previous cycle too because i didn't know that lunar shop changed the next stage so you don't spawn in a void seed

scenic surge
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void fields in trials to skip s2

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issue is you take damage escaping

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I do it here

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but multiplayer all you need to do is s1

versed temple
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it was the previous prismatic trial seed, where you can cheese boss 1 by getting it to walk off the map

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i skipped the lunar shop, spawned into a void seed stage 2, gave up and ran out of time

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aight i just failed a prism run just now

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took dmg to a beetle guard

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problem: depending on who hosts idk how the achievement will work, if at all

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lobby code is 109775240995537072 anyways

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ah crud it was public i'm gonna run a 4 man prismatic trial rq and see what happens

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it's the bug

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one guy died, another didn't spawn, and the last died at tp

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they just join on their own. randoms. it was a public lobby

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holup are you 'Mori'?

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oh wait no that's someone else lagging hella

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aight room's open again

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oh wait holup i gotta reperform the bug

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109775240995554075

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^that's a prismatic trial lobby

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odd

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109775240995554075

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there's a rando in the lobby rn

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damn

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gonna rehost and if this doesn't work imma sleep rip

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109775240995571888

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actually i'll let you host, i'll try clear as loader and if we fail imma head out

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after this one, ofc

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made it private this time too, no more randoms joining, dying, and dc'ing

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eh, it's happened to me befoer

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lobby still empty on my end

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oh omw

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uhhh, did you perform the bug?

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botcha

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109775240995598269

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109775240995604856

past reef
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Not sure if its still up but yesterday on ps4 trials had 2 lunars and 1 white at the start with command. If your trying to unlock slicing winds you could buy 2 Glass and 1 Focus crystal

arctic apex
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yey I finally beat a prismatic trial

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finally, harvester sycthe

scenic surge
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how do you three punch the beetle queen?

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aka how do you optimize loader default punch damage for time

delicate grove
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i combined grapple with every punch but thats about it

scenic surge
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my punches are doing like 355 with weak grapples

delicate grove
zenith plinth
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109775240997252323

zenith plinth
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Nope Just wanted to play

random mural
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what do you need help with? I could be free in about 2 hrs

zenith plinth
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Kinda late for me so ima sleep

hollow lintel
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How? Like, do you have any tips on getting it?

scenic surge
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cbg video

hollow nexus
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holy shit this seed is great for merc. my first cleared trial too

scenic surge
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Console

hollow nexus
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console

scenic surge
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nice job!

hollow nexus
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ty

cyan stratus
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this trial is uh

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very interesting

scenic surge
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?

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huh

hallow zinc
hollow nexus
hallow zinc
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Ah ok I didn’t use command when I unlocked scythe so you’re probably right

hollow nexus
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because I also had the ability to choose wax quail, which I unlocked in my next run

scenic surge
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yep you unlock everything in trials

zenith plinth
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Zinq video on this trial?

scenic surge
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cheese both bosses

delicate grove
scenic surge
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i made a clear mistake there too

zenith plinth
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How do cheese?

scenic surge
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skip AWU with damage, do void fields

cyan stratus
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the merc route is looking to be 15+ minutes and i'm not having a fun time, the larva spawns are kinda ridiculous

scenic surge
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yeah

cyan stratus
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unless i find some recycler strat

delicate grove
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just get tesla coil from awu its easy

scenic surge
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merc multiplayer though seems pretty easy

cyan stratus
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slamming an elite awu is harder than regular since you can't 1shot it a lot of the time

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then it spawns probes and gg

delicate grove
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just use your iframes

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merc is op

cyan stratus
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true, you wanna record ethereal for this one

delicate grove
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ill give it a try

cyan stratus
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great

scenic surge
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can you slam vagrant effectively?

delicate grove
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you can safely stand here if thats any help

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havent checked the stage fully but there is one missile drone ive found so far

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and an equipment drone which you could give volcanic egg to maybe

scenic surge
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where egg?

delicate grove
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this image taken moments before disaster

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found a second missile drone

scenic surge
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egg recycles into cube

delicate grove
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cube might be the play

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also if you recycle more things before recycling the thing you want to recycle then it will be different

scenic surge
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oh really?

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how many things do I need to recycle before I can get an fmp

delicate grove
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idk

cyan stratus
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recyclers operate on a global thing per stage, each tier of item has its own list but the current index in the list is the same for all tiers

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if you print something it makes things different, i don't know why

scenic surge
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interesting

delicate grove
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red chest turns into laser scope after recycling 3 things before it

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if you could recycle the red into spare drone parts then maybe that would work

scenic surge
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you can slam the vagrant with FA

delicate grove
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found a 3rd missile drone

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egg turns into preon after recycling 4 things before it

scenic surge
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you might be able to boss skip awu with enough delicate watches / levels

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it's 100 damage, right?

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Though not sure if that’s very efficient

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preon should be able to skip though

cyan stratus
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noticing something weird with the recycler and the order of items recycled, sticky bomb->brooch produces mocha->crystal but the opposite order gives mocha->fungus?

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might be something with the update because i never saw something like that in a previous trial

delicate grove
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what do you mean the opposite

cyan stratus
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recycling brooch and then sticky bomb

delicate grove
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preon method is probably the 'easiest' way to do this

ornate lintel
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This is... interesting. I'm not familiar with the weird intricacies of Prismatic Trials, but if you guys are seeing any bugs that are diminishing your enjoyment of the gamemode, please @ me.

delicate grove
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dont worry we are all masochists

ornate lintel
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That worries me more

scenic surge
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With a couple rerolls I got an fmp

cyan stratus
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i found a very very strange way to get runalds+headset

scenic surge
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I managed to kill boss 1 with a brooch and fmp, but then in bazaar I cauldroned my brooch for a hopoo feather

cyan stratus
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how viable is brooch + void fields skip

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not viable

scenic surge
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what about with 5 gestures and a fuel cell?

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but then you’d have to cheat lunar coins which defeats ethereal purpose

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dreaming sirens again gives you a slammable solus control unit

cyan stratus
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he turned purple

scenic surge
delicate grove
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this run didnt succeed because i accidentally went too far forward here and wasnt out of bounds anymore

cyan stratus
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i don't think you needed to hide for that aoe

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what's your crazy plan for the 2nd stage

delicate grove
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yeah probably not but its not like i can do anything else

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on stage 2 you just get the kjaros band and get a preon crit

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that one shots the strider

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1/5 chance easy

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or save up two preon charges and just do regular kjaros preon twice

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i think you can actually hide inside the glowing mushrooms on the ground in the zone

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only vengeance clones were able to attack me there i think

cyan stratus
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@delicate grove

foggy swan
cyan stratus
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would not recommend

foggy swan
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what did it take

cyan stratus
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4 hours

foggy swan
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also I love the fact that you are cabbage and is cabbage emote

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what exactly does that do again

cyan stratus
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the ability? just a merc ranged special

foggy swan
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is the ability worth it

cyan stratus
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people say it is yeah

foggy swan
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okay like what does it do specifically shoot more arrows in the direction?

cyan stratus
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it's just like a ranged attack that applies expose, i don't really use it because i only play trials

foggy swan
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why did I read applies as apples

delicate grove
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nice

delicate grove
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finally managed to get a preon run

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crit the jellyfish on s1 though so didnt get to do any out of bounds stuff

cyan stratus
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nice, wp getting it on this trial

icy urchin
icy urchin
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can elite worms still spawn during prismatic trials? I remember that years ago it was possible to see them @cyan stratus

cyan stratus
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they "patched" it a while ago but i still heard people get them afterwards. i haven't heard about anyone get them in a while though and it's hard to run into a worm in trials unless you take a really long time

icy urchin
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i see, thanks

restive rampart
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so im looking at some of these routes but i seem to be getting different items? the closest i could get is the recycler route but when i recycle it i get a completely diffrent item? im new to ROR2 so if anyone could explain this it'd be a big help

scenic surge
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Recycler is very weird

zenith plinth
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Yes

weary knoll
sweet shell
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just me or does this new pris trial seed suuuuuuuck

latent kindle
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agreed, sirens call is so bad in this

inner stirrup
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i just want the harvesters scyth

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god this trial sucks

rustic valley
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man i spent 2 days getting that mercenary alt

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i dont even use mercenary

inner stirrup
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Anyon3e got any tips for someone just trying to beat it for the first time, Or should i wait and hope the next one is easier

trim socket
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Im new here guys, but what is the methodology to trials. i tried an entire day and was super fustrated

fleet crow
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Don't try this one

olive elbow
limber comet
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i recommend waiting till next prismatic trial

scenic surge
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You can get 2x brooches

limber comet
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hopefully next one's easy

scenic surge
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I spend useless time in the bazaar and rerolled for another recycler amazing run

delicate grove
scenic surge
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brooches brooches brooches

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I was very happy when I saw a second broooch

delicate grove
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i prefer getting 0 brooches

scenic surge
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But you didn’t fight the vagrant with 0 brooches and two recyclers

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Without soul my strat would’ve been completely invalid

scenic surge
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Could you always dream the same stage as s1?

delicate grove
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cant remember

cyan stratus
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also could you have recycled the recycler with the recycler you recycled

scenic surge
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sadly no

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i'd need another recycler for that

teal steppe
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You had 2 recyclers. He is saying pick up the fresh one that had been recycled already and recycle the one that hadn't been rerolled yet. You'd have to wait for a cooldown, but still it was possible.

delicate grove
fervent ridge
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when they change it

scenic surge
scenic surge
fathom pollen
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can you guys give this noob some tips and trick to beat prismatic trials? i just want the harvester...

scenic surge
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Hit the newt alter for no s2

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you can skip AWU relatively easily, but otherwise Railgunner or Loader can live/ do enough damage to fight the vagrant

fathom pollen
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i suck at railgunner cuz im bad at quick scoping

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i guess imma focus on unlocking her other skills before tackling prismatic

scenic surge
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I mean nothings stopping Railgunner from running all the way to the top of the map where enemies don’t spawn and taking as much time as possible

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i think

safe field
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Any tips for merc? I want to unlock his last alt

quiet warren
safe field
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Great I will check it

fleet crow
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I just had a thought

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It'll be absurd in trials

zenith plinth
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Tricorn noted 🤔 📋

scenic surge
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It’s available in the enigma pool, so captain can legitimately get it commonly with equip beacon cycling

delicate grove
shut bridge
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Has seed reset yet

latent kindle
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i dont have such skill 👀

scenic surge
ocean moat
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I am in the same boat as ChronobaubleBest. I have no idea how I could ever beat the trials damageless, especially as a melee character like mercenary.

scenic surge
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wait until an easier trial

quiet warren
# ocean moat I am in the same boat as ChronobaubleBest. I have no idea how I could ever beat ...

For some general tips
I have a guide covering the general playstyle of Mercenary if it helps, but
Practice with Mercenary. The achievement is fairly skill-based, so the better you are with Merc, the easier it becomes to complete the trial.
Watch the trial closely. Try to find your own paths through. Cabbage is great for finding one path, but that's not the only way.
Topaz Brooch and barrier in general is your friend. Barrier doesn't count as getting hit, so Topaz Brooches can really save you. Shield does count as getting hit however

Guide in question is on my profile and in the pins of #ror2-game-questions

ocean moat
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ty, will check it out

teal steppe
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I’m waiting for an easier trial rn and I guess I’ll start practicing with merc. It’s the last achievement I have to 100% the game, new DLC included. Kinda frustrating having to wait 3 days per trial roll, especially since the new monsters feel especially punishing for melee characters. (Looking at you, wisp+ and banelings).

fleet crow
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My last achieve was Acrid Monsoon

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Then DLC released

scenic surge
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Blind pests shouldn’t be as bad as wisps for ethereal

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because shotgun vs sniper sorta

fleet crow
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Wisps have hitscan

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Pests don't

random mural
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I did ethereal on a command trial spamming topaz broach iirc

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Wisps are easy barrier then

fleet crow
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True

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If it's easy Topaz_Brooch trial

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Then wisps

random mural
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Having glass helps too

fleet crow
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True

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Also no blazing elites

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I got it a while back, at least a few months

random mural
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Yeah its not that hard if you get command imo, you have to be willing to try it a lot

ivory moat
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it is possible to just hone the run until it works

scenic surge
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as someone who did this trial, would not recommend going for ethereal today

teal steppe
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Wisps are less frustrating because of their lower health and they telegraph when they are about to attack more clearly. Wisps also die in one or two dashes. Pests have more than double the health and double the health scaling. Yes, you can run circles around them and not get hit but I’ll take 1-shot wisps instead of the avoidant pests. Easier fodder for the broach.

ivory moat
teal steppe
ivory moat
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the one time i did ethereal was on an honor wisp trial

teal steppe
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Afaik just wisps on death, which is good for broach runs for the most part. They aren’t effected by artifact of honor, but the healing dude’s orbs do drop another wisp on death.

delicate grove
glad panther
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is ethereal reasonable on this weeks pc trial

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im going for merc unlocks

summer monolith
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etherial is the last challenge i need

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the rest is a few logs

north sun
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What's the best survivor for the trial this week

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it's so hard lmao

soft acorn
scenic surge
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Completion? Probably Railgunner if possible

twin inlet
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what are the chances of this

scenic surge
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Prismatics multiplayer was fixed AngryDrizzle

quiet warren
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@delicate grove
Your days of getting paid for Ethereal are over

ivory moat
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people have to play the game now AngryDrizzle

rain canyon
dark prairie
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mersenarys special anyone?

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i need help

rain canyon
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its not a good trial for merc achievement

dark prairie
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och

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ok

rain canyon
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There's a brooch at the beginning

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but the other loots aren't good if u have to no-hit

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also pest spam

dark prairie
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okay, do you think theres someone who notifies when its a good seed?

rain canyon
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idk

rain canyon
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if u want to clear it normally , u prob print the medkit and take nkukana opinion that is right next

scenic surge
delicate grove
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But i didnt even get one customer

zenith plinth
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Aha!

narrow girder
north sun
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the new one seems ok

cyan stratus
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it's "ok"

north sun
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youre so good at merc lmao

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I keep getting hit by the queen

inner stirrup
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how is the trial now?

fathom pollen
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finally

fathom pollen
north sun
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do you have tips on not getting hit during boss

fathom pollen
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the 2nd boss?

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2nd boss is a bit challenging

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make sure you have the corrupted bands, slug and medkit on your bandit then just use utility and ran away

north sun
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Gotcha

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where is the corrupted bands on this seed

fathom pollen
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took me 2 tries to beat it

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and all the item spawn are the sameidk about the other players if they get the same stuff

north sun
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theyre the same

fathom pollen
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1st try is mercenary
2nd try is engineer
3rd try is bandit which made me complete prismatic trials

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corrupted bands is on the 1st stage, 2nd stage has themedkits and slug

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make sure you nail those special skills so you can spam his abilities

north sun
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where on map tho

fathom pollen
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just go look around

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use the volcanic egg to traverse easily

weary knoll
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I’m grinding ethereal all day lol

rain canyon
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This trial isn't hard to complete , but it seems very hard for ethereal , wisp spam in stage 2 seems to be a pain to deal with

cyan stratus
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it's not bad, just save cooldowns until they spawn

rough compass
rain canyon
cyan stratus
opal escarp
sly drum
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holy, it seems i'm just bad with railgunner

opal escarp
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not that hard honestly just about getting to places in time

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nice got it down to sub 2

zenith plinth
scenic surge
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wait

scenic surge
cyan stratus
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@scenic surge railgunner > loader?

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or was that a bad run

scenic surge
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uh

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It wasn’t peeerfect, but still very impressive

cyan stratus
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nah railgunner can get like 1:15 probably

scenic surge
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then Railgunner > loader probably

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I don’t know how to do damage with punch though so beetle queen takes me a while

cyan stratus
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you should try railgunner, fun mobility in trials

scenic surge
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oh yeah i did

cyan stratus
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energy bar is really annoying though, i always prefire it

scenic surge
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crystal + r + shift = instant map traversal

dusty sedge
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Finally got scythe cause this set was nice and easy

cyan stratus
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what is 'r'

dusty sedge
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I kept getting my butt handed to me from the other trials

cyan stratus
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and 'shift'

scenic surge
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default binds

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R is cryo shift is bounce

cyan stratus
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using special + mine + crystal? i found special isn't very good

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you're going the wrong way lol

scenic surge
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shhh

cyan stratus
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also am i bad or are the crystals hard to hit as railgunner

scenic surge
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they're incredibly wonky

cyan stratus
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ok cool, not just me

scenic surge
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cool thing I noticed: watch doesn't break if you don't get hit

cyan stratus
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not breaking watch is easy since all you have to do is not get hit

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like is this my fault or what is going on

scenic surge
cyan stratus
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how'd you get up there lmao

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well a better question: why

scenic surge
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the triple combo but upwards

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a large mistake

cyan stratus
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what's your best s1 activation

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got a 17 and felt pretty fast but idk

scenic surge
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😳

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i grab the watch which I realize may be a mistake

cyan stratus
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maybe?

scenic surge
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just completed my first run, at 1:34

cyan stratus
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kinda wish railgunner was able to hit crystals

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more than 50% of the time

scenic surge
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yeah

cyan stratus
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i had a 1:18 but templar said no

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not the worst but still a scuffed run

scenic surge
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you're just shooting all the probes, right?

cyan stratus
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as opposed to ?

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can you send them flying into a wall or something, haven't tried that

scenic surge
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ah nah i was wondering if there was another option

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i seem to be unable to aim

cyan stratus
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i cannot aim either, so it's an even playing ground

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you're grabbing the lunar item on s1 though, right

scenic surge
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oh yeah

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double hp to deal with the probes is insanely powerful

cyan stratus
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of course

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are you still using watch? how many shots on beetle do you need

scenic surge
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uh

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lemme check

cyan stratus
scenic surge
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~7

cyan stratus
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yeah you need 7 without watch too lol

scenic surge
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but it let's you one shot crystals s2 without reload

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doesn't mean too much thouhgh

cyan stratus
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yeah the crystals are very annoying

limpid pendant
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2:20 is best i got so far

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i cant post pictures here for some reason

cyan stratus
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i think you need some role for pictures or something,

limpid pendant
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there we go

scenic surge
cyan stratus
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oh wtf, that's like

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very fast? i didn't know you could go between those 2 pillars

limpid pendant
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ooh sniper is a good idea

cyan stratus
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i get like 17s with my strat at best

scenic surge
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i missed some crits and forgot to hit tp that run

cyan stratus
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but like How

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is that 1st crystal consistent?

scenic surge
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not really

cyan stratus
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cool

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i either fly into orbit or hit a pillar

scenic surge
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well I got close to it again

summer monolith
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im trying to farm attempts to get the mercenary achievement, its just i feel like i have to get lucky on certain things which is annoying plus i dont know mercenary tech

scenic surge
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there is a guide

limpid pendant
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is there any way to see the top runs?

scenic surge
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I mean I can post my loader

summer monolith
scenic surge
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merc tech and this weeks trial

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@quiet warren

summer monolith
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ive seen the video for this weeks trial, its just hard to get even the first stage without damage

summer monolith
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doesnt help that clay templars suck

scenic surge
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trye

summer monolith
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i got really close, got hit once and did second stage flawless

cyan stratus
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@scenic surge consider the following: 12sec s1 activation

scenic surge
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i should also consider aiming

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did you achieve that?

summer monolith
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plus it doesnt help that the turret wants to spawn down near legendary cheest sometimes

cyan stratus
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no

scenic surge
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ah phew

cyan stratus
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but if i wasn't bad i might've

summer monolith
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would it be worth it to deviate from the route and grab purity?

scenic surge
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Go to bazaar? Great idea if you have the coins

limpid pendant
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that loader run is big brain

cyan stratus
scenic surge
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Easy

cyan stratus
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the prompt was on the screen for like 7 frames??

scenic surge
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Pause spam it

quiet warren
cyan stratus
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pause spam ?

scenic surge
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You didn’t have it selected when you hit E

cyan stratus
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my interact is 'r'

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my mine is 'e'

scenic surge
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well that makes more sense

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Ah yeah then I have no idea Drizzle

cyan stratus
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very sad, would've been a 1:15

scenic surge
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With loader singularity band crit 1:17 is theoretically in loader’s grasp

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Though I’m not going to crit farm, might just try to get good at Railgunner

scenic surge
cyan stratus
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i'm not wig, do you just want a video

limpid pendant
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gotta work on my grapple punches

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and getting that 2 for 1 crystal punch is hard

scenic surge
cyan stratus
#

somewhat ok run

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probes went Very wrong though

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and s1 still scuffed

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actually the entire route is scuffed, idk how you would benefit from a video

scenic surge
scenic surge
#

I may have only gotten to s2 5 times

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and just B-lined the tp with all crystals I can hit, sniping the probes 1 by 1

limpid pendant
#

got the 2 for 1 crystals but messed up grapple inbetween stages

scenic surge
#

ah yeah bazaar grapple is sometimes an issue

#

Ya’ll consuming the band cooldown with the void infester?

limpid pendant
#

nope i just noticed that

cyan stratus
#

i use a different strat for the character select screen

scenic surge
#

Loader

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lol

cyan stratus
#

you get a 8mb video of a very scuffed run, do with it what you want

summer monolith
#

okay, so i didnt expect going to bazar to completely change the s2 layout and i spent 60 coins just to get one purity

#

thats an L

scenic surge
#

Oh yeah forgot to warn you about that

#

Can also change the boss

scenic surge
summer monolith
scenic surge
#

yeah maybe not bazaar I guess

summer monolith
#

i guess my only choice is to grind runs and hope i get lucky, will learning mercenary tech help me enough to be worth learing?

scenic surge
#

Uh

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Three swing technique is almost always good on merc, but hitless merc tech can be slightly different

#

honestly, you could just wait for an easier trial

#

however being good at mercenary does help Drizzle

summer monolith
#

yeah but this trial seems actually possible, i dont wanna miss an opertunity and have to wait forever

scenic surge
#

nah at most it’s like 3 trials in a row

scenic surge
sly drum
scenic surge
#

don’t feel the need to follow exactly cabbage vid too if you don’t want, If you think egg (or anything) is really valuable for you, take it.

summer monolith
scenic surge
summer monolith
#

seems to make s1 easier

summer monolith
scenic surge
#

Yeah

#

I think egg disjointing still occurs too

summer monolith
scenic surge
#

But since you go pretty fast, and have a smaller hitbox, as long as the enemy doesn’t have AoE it’s useful dodging

summer monolith
#

fair, its just a pain to grind runs

#

why does it have to be such a hard achievement

scenic surge
#

Then don’t, if you don’t really want too

summer monolith
#

i literally dont play mercenary, i just wanna 100%

cyan stratus
cyan stratus
summer monolith
scenic surge
#

hit two with cryocharge, sit around missing, die because of too much previous fall damage and templar

#

You should consider it

cyan stratus
#

oh i used to do that before i changed it

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it helps to click the red box

summer monolith
#

doesnt help that this goofy ball doesnt wanna agro properly

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i assume buying the healing drone is to take agro off of me right?

scenic surge
#

You can kill the ball relatively easily by using R to close the gap, then using shifts slowly for stunning

summer monolith
#

yeah but ball tanky and im bad at video game, easier for turret to do it

scenic surge
#

makes sense

summer monolith
#

you'd think i wouldnt struggle with this having 240 hours in the game

scenic surge
#

How many mercenary?

summer monolith
#

psssh idk lemme check

cyan stratus
#

can you check that?

scenic surge
#

Logbook

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But that bugs a lot I think

cyan stratus
#

my stats are very messed up since i have like 15 profiles for speedrunning but i do most of my merc on 1 profile so i'll check

summer monolith
#

it says 5.9%

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i have 2 profiles

cyan stratus
#

doesn't say total time

scenic surge
#

Time alive per survivor?

summer monolith
#

i didnt realize that there were different profiles, i had my hard drive wiped so i started over

cyan stratus
#

oh lol, didn't know this "profile stats" thing existed

summer monolith
#

anyways mercenary is my 6th least played survivor

cyan stratus
cyan stratus
#

i don't really know what that number means?

scenic surge
#

The point was how many hours did you really spend going for mercenary ethereal? Don’t bother yourself over total hours (although it helps with general knowledge)

cyan stratus
#

it definitely is not hours

scenic surge
summer monolith
#

i gave up on a trial with a broach and glass

cyan stratus
#

yeah this trial isn't bad but it's probably a bit tough if you haven't played much merc before

summer monolith
#

im just scared to let it go by when i know i can do it if i put the time in

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plus i dont like waiting, i just wanna see that sweet 118/118 on my steam profile lol

#

im bored of trying so im gonna try for top 100 in general, sounds like a fun time

#

im at 186 now :D

scenic surge
#

gl

summer monolith
#

i have to play risky to beat my pb, plus i dont know how to route well so

fluid gale
#

I got Ethereal from the current trial! I'm super happy :D

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Second stage having a tricorn was pretty nice

scenic surge
#

just copy cabbages Railgunner

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That’s what I plan on doing

scenic surge
fluid gale
#

If you go shop then let it take you to sundered there's a trophy hunters tricorn by the teleporter

summer monolith
#

i will see if i cant get that to work

scenic surge
#

is boss a boss though?

fluid gale
#

There's two equipment barrels, the closer one to the teleporter has vase and the other has tricorn

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I got imp overlord as my boss

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sometimes you get glacial lem tho

scenic surge
#

ah time based probably

fluid gale
#

Yeah I think so

scenic surge
#

or blocking the spawn of one of them

fluid gale
#

I think it's time based because when I went quicker than usual I got lemurian but when I waited till like 5 minutes I got Imp

scenic surge
#

You can wait in bazaar for safety

summer monolith
#

sweet, im at 146, i bet i could get sub 2 mins if i really tried

fluid gale
#

ye I did that

summer monolith
fluid gale
#

I'm just glad I finally got that achievement out the way

summer monolith
fluid gale
#

nw! Happy to help out :D

left stump
#

Is todays prismatic trial hard compared to recent ones?

summer monolith
#

how come sometimes only 2 balls spawn and sometimes like 6 spawn, is it a time based thing?

scenic surge
#

probably also yeah

summer monolith
#

these templars make me angry

#

NOOOO

#

106, im so close

#

gotta save 3 seconds

scenic surge
#

Railgunner?

summer monolith
#

yeah

#

not sub 2 mins but top 100 :D

#

definitely a lot of time to save though

fluid gale
#

nice

summer monolith
#

im gonna go for sub 2 then ill try etherial

#

hah, sub 2? what a joke

#

:)

#

i like this, this is like wordle but it lasts more than 2 minutes, maybe ill do trials every time

#

time for mercenary runs

#

i only have 3 coins though so thats an issue

#

turns out s2 is extremely easy taking bazar route so now i just need to get a good s1 run

#

sweet

#

OKAY

#

no hit s1time to pray i dont mess htis up

#

my last lunar coin too

#

5 mins better be a safe time for boss to switch

#

I TOOK ONE HIT POINT OF FALL DAMAGE

#

:(

#

now i have no coins

#

and im too tired to beat the game quickly

summer monolith
#

im in the trial mindset now so im gonna speedrun mythrix as fast as i can so i get 10 more attempts

scenic surge
#

The trial will end <t:1647298800:R>

fleet crow
summer monolith
#

I HATETHIS

#

i panicked and didnt hit the blue portal

#

ok, just have to wait a little bit, snipe the rocks, and grab the funny orange thinggy

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guess who hit the portal 3 seconds too early because i was scared!!!

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proabably less than 3 seconds

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WHY DID I DO THAT

#

IM SO UPSET

#

i wanna cough my lungs out of my body

sly drum
#

the best i can do

#

also look at all those railgunner

summer monolith
#

ive only got one cain left

#

i just want to cry

olive rivet
#

how do i no hit the titanic plains boss with the parent and the larvae taking up all my eviscerate procs

summer monolith
#

i beat the game again so i get another `\13 tries

#

pray for me

#

i think we got it first try bois

#

lets hope i dont jinx myself

#

im going to cry

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ok

#

in bazar

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lets not get hit by a larvae

#

i just gotta wait longer

#

i waited till 4 mins last time and i was 125 seconds early

#

soooo

summer monolith
#

I HIT IT AT 5 MINUTES AND IT DIDNT GIVE ME THE IMP LIKE BEFORE

#

is it like, 5 minutes and 5 seconds

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or am i just unlucky

#

the good thing is thats 3 s1 in a row no hit!

#

im getting consistant i just need to wait a bit longer on s2

#

ill wait till 4:30 now

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WHA

#

IM AT 5:23 AND IT DIDNTR SPAWN

#

IT SPAWNED BEFORE

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WHY WONT IT NOW

#

should i wait for dificulty change?

#

i guess ill just test even if i fail s1

#

okay

#

i tested, i know for a fact that 6 mins works

#

i love this game

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but oh god it makes me angry

#

sometimes

#

WHY WAS THERE A RANDOM ASS GREATER WISP THAT WAS NEVER THERE BEFORE EVER

#

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

#

I cant just give up because then i wont be warmed up if i try tomorrow

#

but i really dont wanna keep trying

#

attempt #like 35 idk

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s1 cleared

#

just waiting at the portal, hopefully no dumb big wisp guy

#

I KILLED THE BOSS BUT THE FUCKING RANDOM ELDER LUMERIAN WOULDNT LEAVE THE TELEPORTER AND I COULDNT SAFELY HIT IT

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

#

i cant

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in theory, if i became egg, could i just slip by and hit portal?

quiet warren
#

Egg doesn't make you invincible, but the extra mobility might still allow you to

summer monolith
#

okay

#

s1 donei have egg

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swap egg with tricorn, kill boss, grab egg, charge egg, win

#

@fluid gale @scenic surge thank you both for the help, i really apreciate it!!!

acoustic sparrow
#

wowzers

versed temple
#

did they patch the multiplayer prism trial bug yet

cyan stratus
#

yes

random mural
#

yoo good job

edgy ermine
exotic inlet
#

Is there a method to change the prismatic trial time? i feel like a lot of the best time are not legit...

ivory moat
#

Modded trials are not listed in the leaderboards

#

Getting a minute or two is entirely possible lol

summer monolith
#

you cant even play trials modded can you?

#

plus yeah, i’m absolutely awful at trials and i got a minute 40 with railgunner in a few tries

#

i’m sure i could get a 1:30 if i did some more attempts and routed better

ivory moat
#

Idk if modded trials even work, but ik if they do they aren’t listed

exotic inlet
#

well i'm not saying everyone is cheating, just seeing an engi with a 1:40 seems too good to be true x)

fleet crow
#

There are a couple people that have gotten 20 seconds before

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That I've seen

#

Though they're all cheating

#

Since Loader can barely get sub-1 in just a few trials

exotic inlet
#

this is the best i did for now

fleet crow
#

Whoa what

#

Zinq in 51

#

Zinq is usually in top 5

exotic inlet
#

i can improve my bumper placement and my snipe speed the last fight for gaining 10 sec i think but to lazy for it x)

fleet crow
#

I only do the easy Loader trials

exotic inlet
#

forgot you can go further with shooting backward but way out of my league to do it consistently

summer monolith
tawdry ferry
#

is the alt skill for merc worth it?

#

ive been hitting my head against a brick wall

scenic surge
#

suuuure

tawdry ferry
#

trying to get it

quiet warren
#

It's worth it, more so if you plan on using Merc a lot

#

For some general tips
I have a guide covering the general playstyle of Mercenary if it helps, but
Practice with Mercenary. The achievement is fairly skill-based, so the better you are with Merc, the easier it becomes to complete the trial.
Watch the trial closely. Try to find your own paths through. Cabbage is great for finding one path, but that's not the only way.
Topaz Brooch and barrier in general is your friend. Barrier doesn't count as getting hit, so Topaz Brooches can really save you. Shield does count as getting hit however

Guide in question is on my profile and in the pins of game-questions

tawdry ferry
#

also

#

every run is the same right?

#

does that mean all the item spawns are the same?

quiet warren
#

Should be

scenic surge
#

ah

#

i forgot you have to be at the tp to hit it again

cyan stratus
scenic surge
#

more seem to be after dlc

cyan stratus
#

there's always an increase after updates, more players

scenic surge
#

faster than the grenade coldown to boost downwards

cyan stratus
#

that's not actually my strat, i just ended up there and improvised a way to hit the crystal lol

#

i haven't played it long enough to come up with a consistent strat since i usually fly in a random direction

scenic surge
#

yeah im sure

cyan stratus
#

something i noticed though is if you go too fast, you won't have the 4th ability to hit the beetle queen. so there's probably a cap somewhere

scenic surge
#

yeah that too

#

but the fourth ability doesnt' do much for the beetle queen, saves less than one shot

cyan stratus
#

it saves an entire shot though

#

guess maybe like a second timesave

scenic surge
#

no no no

#

but it has a cooldown afterwards and the shot takes longer

cyan stratus
#

but it's faster than shooting twice

scenic surge
#

no

cyan stratus
#

yes

scenic surge
#

actually doesn't seem like it

#

got out of s1 33s no fourth shot

cyan stratus
#

4th ability + shoot is faster than shoot + shoot

scenic surge
#

probably

zenith plinth
#

If you guys ever need salt for your food, make sure to call me

#

Cause i must be the saltiest thing on earth because of the mercenary challenge thingy

fleet crow
#

I got one of the best trials for it

#

Took me two attempts total

zenith plinth
#

I've been trying this one for 3-4 hours

#

It seems only rng matters

vital oxide
#

I want a glass command trial or something

#

I have been playing merc a bit more and I think I'm getting better at them

fleet crow
#

Really all you need is Kin + Command

#

With no wisps

zenith plinth
#

That's juste bad design then if you need either rng or to wait an easy one :/

fleet crow
#

Or just git gud

vital oxide
#

Or just git gud

scenic surge
#

Or just git gud

vital oxide
#

See unhelpful minds think alike

zenith plinth
#

I mean i usually try that

#

But being good doesn't help that much against clay templar / wisp and eye robot thingy

scenic surge
#

Yeah maybe wait for another trial

delicate grove
#

so theres this cool thing you can do called save editing

zenith plinth
#

Waiting for a good trial already sounds like cheating

#

But my mental state can't take it anymore

delicate grove
#

just save edit and be thankful you arent on console

#

then go back and do a damageless trial later on if you are still feeling guilty

summer monolith
#

it took me around 3 hours to get last night

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it’s a pain but i didnt wanna give up knowing it was possible

zenith plinth
#

Cause i keep getting hit by the clay templar on the second map

summer monolith
#

wait til 5:00

#

theres a trophy hunters tricorn right next to the portal

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hot the portal after 5:30

#

it will spawn a blazing imo overlord

#

use the tricorn and hit the portal

#

as long as you can do stage one consistently without getting hit then that’s how i did it

zenith plinth
#

I'm gonna give it a shot

summer monolith
#

i find it a lot easier than the other way

#

it took me like 20 attempts still

#

but it was a lot easier than the other way

zenith plinth
#

Alr alr, stage one is not a problem anymore so I'll give it a shot

#

As long as i don't get sniped by clay templar i'm fine waiting 5 min

summer monolith
zenith plinth
#

I got it second try this way

summer monolith
#

sweet!

#

im glad i could help, should’ve came here and asked earlier lol

#

would’ve saved you a few hours

#

such a pain in the ass achievement, be glad you never gotta do it again

zenith plinth
#

I'm not going back to prismatic ever again

#

This is at some vietnam tier of trauma

summer monolith
cyan stratus
#

sub 1:10 should be possible but i can't aim

summer monolith
#

sweet

acoustic sparrow
#

Yo @summer monolith I saw ur message about the alternative way to beat the Prismatic Trials, and I was wondering what you meant about the hunter's tricorn trophy being next to the portal. Where do I find this thing. Its all I need to kill the Imp

cyan stratus
#

@scenic surge what's your s1 pb again?

scenic surge
#

33

cyan stratus
#

.?

scenic surge
#

Wait

#

32.something near three

cyan stratus
#

oh

#

where am i losing a second

scenic surge
#

you?

cyan stratus
#

yes

scenic surge
#

nah what’s ur pb s1

cyan stratus
#

33.56 and it was like, really fast

#

so i'm confused

scenic surge
#

maybe I’m remembering incorrectly

cyan stratus
#

got a 33.06

#

but i actually hit the point where i lost time b/c of cryo cooldown

#

13.88 activation

summer monolith
#

you have to go to bazar though

acoustic sparrow
#

The blue portal or the boss teleporter?

#

oh

summer monolith
#

boss teleporter

#

but if you don’t go to the bazar you’ll get a different layout

acoustic sparrow
#

Wowzers thanks mate

#

big help

summer monolith
#

mhm, ofc, glad i could save you some time

#

let me know if you need help finding it

scenic surge
#

@cyan stratus what's your best s2 tp hit time

cyan stratus
#

52

scenic surge
#

oh huh

cyan stratus
#

yeah it's not very good lol

summer monolith
#

this is what i used for reference

#

playing as railgunner

#

i just did that but like 30 seconds slower because i’m not a god gamer

surreal hornet
summer monolith
#

np, im gonna try some more runs later so i can send you that too it might be easier to follow

scenic surge
#

damn I got a 52 second activation but missed so much I died to the orbs

cyan stratus
#

the 1:12 i just got had a 50sec activation

#

this would be 50% more enjoyable if the crystal hitboxes weren't broken

scenic surge
#

probably

cyan stratus
#

oh, you just save a full second because you hit your energy bar better

scenic surge
#

yeah

cyan stratus
#

actually that saves like 2 seconds over me

#

whenever i try that i just prefire the energy bar

scenic surge
#

yeah that happens to me a solid amoun

#

don't try to really quickfire on the crystals

zenith plinth
cyan stratus
#

what, ethereal?

zenith plinth
#

yes ma'am

cyan stratus
#

just edit it in the files if you want it that badly

zenith plinth
#

im fucking with u lol

cyan stratus
#

i mean people have asked me that seriously in the past lol

summer monolith
#

i dont see the point in cheating it in

#

i like the chalange, plus it kinda got me into trials in general

scenic surge
#

to use alt ability

#

but like yah the challenge is the point

summer monolith
scenic surge
#

thought tbf the challenge could be sit around for ten minutes which isn't very intruiging

scenic surge
summer monolith
#

i wanna do a trial with the one artifact that makes you have random characters so you’re forced to play a non meta choice

#

i feel like that would be fun

scenic surge
#

that's not in the trial pool sadly

summer monolith
#

or if each week you only had a few survivors to chose from

summer monolith
#

that’s lame, i think that would be really fun instead of just choosing meta all the time

#

too bad each survivor doesn’t have their own leaderboard

#

that could work too

#

people could play whoever

scenic surge
#

yeah that would be cool

#

just don't try merc or huntress

summer monolith
#

dang, i like all these ideas, why can’t they be real 😭

#

i’m new to all this trial stuff, is like railgunner and loader meta now?

#

just because high dps and good base movement

#

is cabbage like one of the top players, that’s the vibe i get from them

#

i never thought i’d be a trials fan either, i think it could be cool to try and get good at it and become a top player

#

ive always wanted to do something like that

#

speed running has always been something i’m fond of

#

it’s just prismatic trials isnt the biggest community, it’s not like someone is gonna go out and make a world record progression video on it

#

life goal: be in a world record progression video

cyan stratus
#

no i'm not, i'm just the only person who's played them since the start that still plays, other people were way better than me

summer monolith
summer monolith
surreal hornet
#

Wasn't that good compared to the clip but 50s off of my time

summer monolith
surreal hornet
#

yes cabbage is my dad

cyan stratus
scenic surge
#

Yeah I’m blind

#

My pb s2tp is 50.8 or smth

summer monolith
#

i for the life of cannot hit the concussion pad special shot boost at the right time, any tips?

scenic surge
#

uh

summer monolith
#

i’m sure if i got that down i could shave a solid 7 seconds

scenic surge
#

concussion boost isn’t fully necessary, if your really struggling

#

Simple special crystal is pretty fast

summer monolith
#

i like that prismatic trial is just endless content to come back to

#

even though i’ve got 100% of the achievements

#

i still have something to look forward to

scenic surge
#

clearly a scuffed run though

#

what I find interesting about the crystal bounce is because your sort of limited by special cooldown, you can sort of improvise what your doing

#

damn my s2 was garbage apart from the bosses

summer monolith
# scenic surge epic

do a lot of people cheat the leaderboards? like how many above you do you think are illegitimate

#

and if not, there’s a lot of people who do this just by themselfs huh, they must be missing out

scenic surge
#

yeah a lot of cheaters

summer monolith
#

that’s lame :(

acoustic sparrow
#

@summer monolith THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! IM FINALLY DONE WITH THIS GODFORSAKEN ACHIEVEMENT

#

Ur Hunter's Trophy strat worked man

summer monolith
fluid gale
#

I'm glad a lot of people are getting Ethereal, I too got it from this prismatic trial :D

acoustic sparrow
#

Well thank you to him and you. I honestly hate this challenge, and ya'll made it really easy for me. Cant thank you enough

fluid gale
#

Thank the DLC for adding that insane equipment xD

summer monolith
#

i’m glad we were able to help :)

summer monolith
#

i say this yet it still took me hours lol

fluid gale
#

I do feel like I learned a lot about merc doing that tho

acoustic sparrow
#

yeah same

fluid gale
#

I actually really like playing him now

summer monolith
fluid gale
#

Fair xD

summer monolith
#

if i ever play him in a normal run i’m gonna be scared to take damage at all

fluid gale
#

Prepares you for eclipse 8 malice

summer monolith
#

i’ll be trying to beat mythrix without taking damage because of my ptsd 💀

summer monolith
fluid gale
#

I've really gotta do my eclipses, only done 1 eclipse 8 so far on railgunner

scenic surge
fluid gale
scenic surge
#

s2 was so scuffed

summer monolith
frozen slate
#

railgunner movement is cool

summer monolith
#

railgunner has a surprising amount of movement for a sniper

fluid gale
#

I just love everything about railgunner

scenic surge
summer monolith
summer monolith
#

ARE YOU DAMAGE BOOSTING AND USING THE SPECIAL???

#

if so thats insane

#

oh my god you are

#

okay, i got it once but i did not go in the right direction

#

okay, so i think s1 pb is 48 seconds now

#

okay, new s1 pb is 45

#

i really out here pbing by less than a second 😭

#

i went up 2 places though

#

i can do a lot better

scenic surge
summer monolith
#

i didnt know crystal bouncing was a thing

scenic surge
#

Crystal bouncing is cool

summer monolith
#

yeah, its so cool how you thought to put all 3 of those mechanics together

#

its so neat

delicate grove
#

i wish this game would give me a crit

scenic surge
#

I wish this game wouldn’t

#

Crit would put you at 1:10?

delicate grove
#

hard to tell

scenic surge
#

also I’m assuming no void fields?

delicate grove
#

i think it would allow me to wait at the portal spawn position for singularity band to do its thing

#

ye

scenic surge
#

Crit on band only or any crit?

summer monolith
#

isnt base crit like less than 1%, doesnt that sound like a pain of a gamble

delicate grove
#

any crit is good but band crit might save more time

scenic surge
#

base crit is 1%

#

pretty sure that’s why Railgunner does 301 damage on crit 🙂

summer monolith
#

ah

#

thats a cool fact

cyan stratus
# scenic surge

how is that so much slower but somehow faster than my time

scenic surge
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I have no idea

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54 second tp oh yeah

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Probably just a good boss2

cyan stratus
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it felt like you had less probes?

scenic surge
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only 1 blazing?

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Nah it was the same amount

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cryo shot takes out 2

summer monolith
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i will say, sneezing in the middle of a run does not help

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being sick also doesnt help

delicate grove
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idk im pretty sick and that helps me

summer monolith
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D:

scenic surge
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just fight the sneeze

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certainly that works

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Also I have confirmed I don’t want to use cryo charge on s2 for speed anymore

summer monolith
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also doesnt help that sneezing hurts so much it incapacitates me for 2 minutes

scenic surge
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😳

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that seems like an issue

summer monolith
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man, pb'd by .20

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:(

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this is hard. i know i can do better im just not

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okay, i give up for now

solemn fractal
surreal hornet
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is there someone who's got a slower time than 1:33 that can beat me so I can drop to 69th

summer monolith
umbral grotto
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is there a disc for talking about these in depth? i'v jus started running and would love to watch other peoples' clips

summer monolith
umbral grotto
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sick!

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anyone have a loader/mercenary video for today's?

summer monolith
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yeah, not too many active people but its still fun

summer monolith
umbral grotto
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i noticed lol, my gf and i are both top 200 with like 20 minutes of running, i think we had a decent route figured out

summer monolith
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but mostly railgunner today