prismatic-trials

[zenith plinth]

Math/meth

[tardy bay]

https://streamable.com/rlkm63 Current Captain route for #1 legit time atm

[zenith plinth]

Nice. Could def improve, nice route tho

[tardy bay]

yeah it wasn't my pb run, but my pb isn't perfect either

[zenith plinth]

I might try this route tomorrow

Gonna come up with a huntress one

Cap seems most viable though

[tardy bay]

hope your sacrifice luck is good for the huntress runs

[zenith plinth]

Killing the boss is… annoying without glass

[zenith plinth]

Shit that’s the artifacts didnt notice

Yeah captain/loader for this one

[tardy bay]

loader should beat captain, she needs a band though

[zenith plinth]

That’s the issue

Reset reset reset

Is there a reset script for prismatic trials

[tardy bay]

i'm not sure

[zenith plinth]

If not than I might make one

maybe macro it

Well I’m gonna go to bed. Good night

[molten valve]

Anybody know the flawless route for the current trial on console?

Xbox specifically

[crimson niche]

I wish prismatics had a quick reset instead of backing out and picking the same chatacter and loading in, just press a funni button at any time and try again from the start

[buoyant slate]

yeah quick reset would be amazing

[dull spoke]

especially when grinding out ethereal

[cyan stratus]

that has been suggested since the start of prismatic trials #prismatic-trials message

[tardy bay]

i just made a quick macro, but it'd have to be edited for different survivors, reset button would obviously be way better

[edgy gulch]

I HATE THE ETHEREAL CHALLENGE

[quiet warren]

You're not alone in that
A lot of people hate it

[edgy gulch]

It would be easier if it was you couldnt have any items

[quiet warren]

What? It's easier if you can have items

It allows the stuff like Preon-ing the boss

Oh, misread that

It would be easier, yes, but then it would kinda take away from the idea of Ethereal

Ethereal is an achievement that's literally about getting good with the character that basically requires you to get good, and challenges how the character functions

Not falling below 100% HP is very annoying though, so changing it to like, 90% would be nice

[edgy gulch]

Command + Sacrifice + Soul

[quiet warren]

I'm assuming you're on console

[edgy gulch]

Yep

[quiet warren]

Yeah, Cabbage isn't going to help there

I have a merc guide, but it'll come down to either practice, or wait for a better trial

Topaz Brooches are good to stack, since barrier doesn't count as HP for the challenge

Ignore shields though, they will count as HP

[edgy gulch]

Ik

[scenic surge]

there seems to be a lot of high speed merc times, throughout most trials... Is there a new merc tech?

[zenith plinth]

Wdym tech

[scenic surge]

thing you could do as opposed to normally fighting bosses with skill rotation

[zenith plinth]

oh

[delicate grove]

i dont know if you can do it in current version but it is possible to increase the stage counter by more than 1 if you activate two 'teleporters' in quick succession

for example, activate teleporter and then blue portal 0.75s later

afaik doing it requires you to throttle your cpu or have a low end pc

[vestal inlet]

that does bring up the end screen but it doesn't submit the time when you press continue (probably due to stage transitions + spawning in to the next stage)

I'd guess the merc times are just people modding to get ethereal

[delicate grove]

what if you did it backwards

blue portal > tp

[polar flame]

Who's fuckin idea was it to make one of the challenges for merc be to not take damage for an entire trial

[frozen slate]

Hopoo Games

[polar flame]

O shit u rite

But seriously, it just has to be merc, the character I suck with the most

Merc and Engi

[quiet warren]

Tbf Merc's whole idea is he scales with player skill

[frozen slate]

yeah

he has a shit ton of I-frames

[polar flame]

You tryna say I suck at the game? Cuz you'd be right

[frozen slate]

very reaction based

melee

[quiet warren]

Blinding Assault is more than enough to cover your bases if you're good at comboing and strafing, yeah

[frozen slate]

almost completely relies on combo game

[polar flame]

I have the reaction times of a slug with dementia

[quiet warren]

Which is fine

They wanted to turn Merc into a combo character
And they did that very well

[polar flame]

Tbf I'm not //too// bad with the merc, I just don't have the skill to go two stages with wisps and not get hit

[quiet warren]

I have a guide if that'll help

[polar flame]

Guides are for people who read and I never learned how cuz I'm not a nerd

[quiet warren]

It ultimately comes down to practice

[quiet warren]

It has videos in it

[polar flame]

One of my worst fears

[quiet warren]

I'm afraid that's really all you can do
Learn Merc's tech and combos
And practice

[void vigil]

Tell me how im supposed to complete a prismatic trail as mercanry with losing health

[quiet warren]

Learn Merc's tech and combos, practice
That's really all you can do
I'd say watch Cabbage, but you're on console so his videos are of no help unless the stars align and PC and console manage to have the same trial

Trials with Artifact of Glass and/or Command are helpful

If the trials also have Chaos, then that can be used to your benefit

[void vigil]

Soul command and sacrfice

[frozen slate]

Or just wait for an easy trial (artifact of glass,command and kin can either be very helpful or very )

[fair umbra]

also brooch

[quiet warren]

Topaz Brooch and Tougher Times are your best friends

Preferably Brooch since it's a little more consistent

[fair umbra]

taking Topaz Brooch's shield damage does not count as falling under 100% (obviously but still worth mentioning)

[quiet warren]

Shield will count as HP for the trial

[fair umbra]

yes

shield, but not barrier

if you have a run with artifact of glass, armor plating can also be pretty useful for wisps and such

[quiet warren]

Yup, in conjunction with Brooch, obviously

[fair umbra]

mhm

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfnikVnTmIg

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#223

[fading shore]

how

i tryed that for 4 hours

[quiet warren]

The only thing that can be said
Practice

[fading shore]

i just need this 1 achievement for 100% xd

[quiet warren]

Merc is a character that scales with player skill instead of really having a skill ceiling
So all you can do is practice and get better
Yes, it's quite literally the "git gud" mentality

[fading shore]

idk is this a bad seed or am i just very bad

[zenith plinth]

this seed is okay

[quiet warren]

Probably a bit of both

Ethereal is a combination of skill and luck, but much, much more emphasis on the skill part

[silent bloom]

I used bandit and placed 12 on my first ever run of prismatic- took like an hour

[quiet warren]

Noice

[fading shore]

eh i try but idk its just not fun to play solo for hours

[silent bloom]

Pretty epic, but for my first time it's actually pretty fun

[silent bloom]

Also that run is clean

[quiet warren]

I have a Merc guide if it might help

[quiet warren]

12th place for your first time is solid

[fading shore]

thanks can you send it to me

[quiet warren]

It's linked on my profile

[fading shore]

oh its in your bio

ye

[tough belfry]

fighting a blazing stone titan with no items is harder than cabbage makes it look but other than that everything else seems easy

[cyan stratus]

the titan is actually the easy part. nothing annoying spawns during the fight if you kill the 2 lemurians first so you just have to deal with the titan. it being blazing doesn't do anything as long as you're in the air

boss 2 can be annoying if you can't get out of an ice bubble fast enough / a beetle guard somehow snipes you

[obsidian timber]

what items do you think I should get for the first stage if i should get any at all

I keep getting hit by the titan's lazer last second

[cyan stratus]

if you stay close to the titan it'll never laser you

i only dash away from it when it's in the middle of an attack animation, since it can't laser when in an attack animation

[obsidian timber]

good idea. so how many items should i get on the first stage

[dull spoke]

I think none since the only item cabbage got was the boss drop

[supple wren]

is there any rec. items for this pris trial or does it even matter

[quiet warren]

Topaz Brooches if you can help it, specifically if you're going for Ethereal

But in general, your item choices will vary depending on the trial

[supple wren]

gotcha

[quiet warren]

Watching Cabbage can help determine what may be good items for that trial

[supple wren]

yea I saw him take missile so I got that

Finally just beat it tho

Tbh I modded the finals cuz I gave up but I'd feel dumb if I kept it that way

those lemurians made it a pain

[jolly rock]

My time is 3 hours 2 min and 37 sec, am I good?

[weary turtle]

cabbage thanks for postng those merc guides

[fluid furnace]

I'm so mad I cannot get the merc ability

[quiet warren]

All you can do is practice and pray a little

[near flax]

so basically i've done no hit merc twice

i'm happy

[tardy bay]

https://streamable.com/4sy1e6 Current Captain Route. Took energy drink from titan kill in my pb.

[cyan stratus]

plant

[quiet warren]

Cabbage becomes the Space Cabbage, carried by REX

[candid pilot]

how do i beat the prismaric trials

somebody help me

[candid pilot]

its fine id did it

[fluid furnace]

I cannot do the trial Cabbage please make a in depth guide for merc

[zealous mural]

check pins

you can follow the video

[fluid furnace]

I did

But I didn't get beetle guards my second I got the clay boi

[exotic solar]

how do u enter a trial like this?

[zealous mural]

alternative game mode button

[exotic solar]

can't see it there

[quiet warren]

Trials are disabled if you're playing with mods

[exotic solar]

ahh okay

I was playing with stat mods

[zenith plinth]

so like

am i just too new to figure out how to no hit this prismatic trial as merc

oh the new ones comin out in 25 minutes maybe i'll get lucky with it

[chilly zephyr]

Most of the time its just waiting for an easy one

But if you need help, just follow Cabbage's videos, which are Pinned

[quiet warren]

Well, either waiting for an easy one, or practicing enough to blast through any trial

[chilly zephyr]

Too lazy

Me want alt R now

[fleet oar]

Mod it in

[fluid furnace]

Dude WTF is this trial

[kind plover]

actual cock and ball torture

[fluid furnace]

Mythirx

Like bruhh

[bleak crystal]

just reorient the tele

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSfGMBBBj8M

[kind plover]

wait you can clip through rocks with merc??????

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#224

[quiet warren]

@indigo snow

[kind plover]

how do you do so much dmg to the crystals with only 1 R

I can't bring them even to half hp with a single one

[zenith plinth]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2632486396

[zenith plinth]

m1 during the R

watch his mouse in the bottom right

[kind plover]

oh okay

thanks ^^

[zenith plinth]

welcom

[fading dagger]

OMG I forgot they attack each other...Thank you! Saved me a lot of frustration lol

[primal lion]

Thank you for this guide. I finally unlocked this darned achievement

[ember dust]

Finally got Ethereal

all I wanna say is I now highly despise stone golems

[quiet warren]

Trust me
Ethereal will make you hate everything

Then you'll look back on it a while later and go
"Wait.... that wasn't as hard as I originally though"

[ember dust]

I almost had it last trial, activated the final TP, and out of nowhere a wisp appeared....

got so mad then I had to stop lol

[quiet warren]

At least the unlock's worth it

And is the challenge as a whole is very thematically fitting

[spark temple]

merc is the best character to do trials

also where rewards

[quiet warren]

None currently
And it's unknown if the devs ever will add one due to the amount of cheaters

[crude girder]

You can cheat in prismatic trials? I thought mods were disabled for them

[quiet warren]

There are other ways to cheat via 3rd party programs

[abstract crypt]

Who the fuck is pinging me?

[dull spoke]

This is the most jank trial I've ever seen lmao

[maiden hound]

https://youtu.be/_P7aWQYiAFc Can't belive this just happened..

[quiet warren]

Get a role in #role-assignment for embeds

[zenith plinth]

Get a role in #role-assignment to post images and embed

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_axjRpKFo

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#225

[quiet warren]

@indigo snow

[teal panther]

cabg

[tardy anvil]

I finally did it

[quiet warren]

Noice

[tardy anvil]

Pain •_•

[quiet warren]

Skill's really good at least

[thin arch]

im honestly not convinced its possible

ive tried at it for 5 hours now

[quiet warren]

If cabbage can do it, so can you

If you notice, he's circle strafing a ton, using the Beetle Queen's body as a meatshield to block shots

[thin arch]

nonono

i take damage after its dead

[quiet warren]

Seems he's making constant use of extensions to catch everything in an AoE

[thin arch]

the difference is this guy has thousands of hours logged probably, i do not

[quiet warren]

You got two ways to go
Practice Merc in a normal run and try to improve
Or wait 3 days for a potentially easier trial

[thin arch]

3 days will be harder

probably

[quiet warren]

I got a merc guide if it helps

[thin arch]

i dont think itd be useful specifically for the trial

i dont care about actually playing merc i just want the achievement

[little wadi]

Three ways: the third is just changing the file where achievements are kept

[quiet warren]

Well, there you go

[thin arch]

ihateror2ihateror2ihateror2ihateror2ihateror2ihateror2

that was purified pain

i will never play this game again whoever decided that achievement was a good idea deserves at least 2 spanks

[mellow kraken]

you did it tho!!!

[quiet warren]

It - rather hilariously - is thematically on point

It's an achievement challenging you to combo and not get hit on the character revolving around comboing and not getting hit, and rewards with a skill that further increases your strength and comboing in return for not getting hit

[thin arch]

merc is for crazy people

is the tldr of this

reckon i can go for veteran merc now that i've endured the pain of not taking damage for like 3 minutes

but on merc i always die stage 1 lol

[tough belfry]

practicing the normal game is useless for ethereal

[quiet warren]

It's not about practicing ethereal
It's about understanding how merc works

Once you understand how to use a character, then it's easier to do an unlock related to them

[abstract crypt]

how did u put modifiers?

[quiet warren]

You don't, Artifacts are automatically rolled with the seed

[abstract crypt]

but modifiers aint the same as artifacts or are they?

[quiet warren]

Oh, you meant the modifiers used for like, starting gold

They're the same across all trials

You can't edit them

[tardy bay]

https://streamable.com/ev9tkz Heres my Captain route so far, can't figure out what xenon did different to get 4 seconds faster

[zenith plinth]

@wraith cipher what did you do to get 4s faster than this ^

[tardy bay]

i found out, a buddy showed me the strat, good shit

[zenith plinth]

Show

[west minnow]

@tardy bay nice run - can I ask why you took the blue band instead of the green?

[tardy bay]

what do you mean green?

[quiet warren]

They're asking why you took Runald's (Ice) Band instead of Kjaro's (Fire) Band

[west minnow]

Yeah that, sorry I don't know the names of them

[tardy bay]

yeah i use for the faster burst damage needed to finish the second beetle queen, instead of the damage over time from

[sterile fossil]

[echo tiger]

Hey quesion im trying to beat this prismatic trial (my first one cause It unlocks an item and friend told me to) also theres the merc achievement but thats less important than actually beating it. Im using Merc for this, obv cause I-frames go brr but, I cant seem to beat the prismatic trial and I need help (I also dont know if this is the right place to ask this) any help is appreciated

[mellow kraken]

i dont keep track of when the trial resets but if its the same as the one from yesterday, if you scroll up a bit theres a vid from cabbage that people often use as guidance!

[echo tiger]

Alright

And yeah its the same one from yesterday

[mellow kraken]

their videos are always very helpful but also that merc achievement is super tough, good luck!!!

[echo tiger]

Alright I'll keep trying my best

[chilly zephyr]

You know you need to use Merc for the achievement right? Regardless of iframes, it's a merc achievement that requires you to play merc

[echo tiger]

Yeah I know I know

Lol

[chilly zephyr]

Wasnt super sure sorry

[echo tiger]

I said I was using merc but yeah

[chilly zephyr]

Anyways like coffee said, just follow what Cabbage does. If it's too hard you can just wait for an easier one

[echo tiger]

Yeah thats

Fair

[lone escarp]

Thank you cabbage

i got mercenary eternal achiment

i used kind of difrent strategy interd of the vid one

i used drones to provoke enemys and extra damage

and i misclicked and got the fire tornalto damage insterd of chance of missce fire

[quiet warren]

Well, you're not expected to completely follow the vid anyways; it's just meant to serve as an example path and what you could do

[lone escarp]

👍

[quiet warren]

Anyways
Congrats!

[lone escarp]

one of the hardest one to get ty

[quiet warren]

The reward is a really good skill too, though I suppose it won't matter if you don't main Merc lel
You can now flex the achievement

[lone escarp]

now i need to get 30 segs on air some how i think this is easy

maybe thats on #gd1-nullified but it helps when you are on final stage?

[quiet warren]

It's pretty easy
Use Whirlwind to trimp first
Quailboosting with Headstompers + Wax Quails also helps
And a perm uptime or near-perma uptime Milky Chrysalis also does the job

[lone escarp]

👍

got it gonna do that but 1st i gonna rest after that

[quiet warren]

And yeah, it does help to do it on Commencement due to reduced gravity

Ah, yeah take a break

[grim vortex]

i respect a man who uses merc for this trial

i cant get under 1:40 with bandit let alone even do it with merc

[upper flare]

im curious, does anyone know how high the top 10% is?

im currently rank 35 with a 1:32.77 run, and im assuming its 10%

[wise turtle]

Lowest I've personally gotten is 276, but it doesn't say too much
Personally I'd say you're pretty close to a top 10% if not already there

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/875987010299494411/919756828282322995/Risk_of_Rain_2_2021.mp4
This wasn't my personal best, but it was close to it
Also I don't care to learn the route now that I'm here, so I'll just live with my 30-40ish place

[zenith plinth]

Depends on the trial. I’d say top 30-20 is top ten cuz I feel like I’ve only really seen 300-400 total people do it, might be more though

You’re likely in the top

[zenith plinth]

Get a role in #role-assignment to post images and embed

[wise turtle]

I promise that I'm smart, I'm just not showing it

[wise turtle]

Well at least I'm not the only one lol

[zenith plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

Yeah lol

[wise turtle]

I'm used to role assignments being up with announcements and other important things

[zenith plinth]

Yeah, it’s weird here

[wise turtle]

Yeye

[zenith plinth]

(Reposting so I can watch)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/875987010299494411/919756828282322995/Risk_of_Rain_2_2021.mp4

It won’t loaddd

[quiet warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875987010299494411/919756828282322995/Risk_of_Rain_2_2021.mp4

There you go

[zenith plinth]

Shit I forgot about CDN

[wise turtle]

Honestly it's not much of an accomplishment, but I'm happy that I got top 10% with a route I crafted myself

Also my pb was a second faster but I didn't remember to record it

[zenith plinth]

#prismatic-trials message

Caps route

[wise turtle]

I think I'll live with where I am rn, top 10% is already pretty neato and I don't feel like learning the new route

I'll probably wait until the next one

[zenith plinth]

I do prismatics a lot, should prolly try this one

[wise turtle]

This one was practically built to be spedran or whatever the past tense of speedrun is

[zenith plinth]

There was one a while back with void reavers as the stage one boss, really fun with huntress

[zenith plinth]

Speedrunned/speedran

Idk

[wise turtle]

The last one had mythrix in the second stage

[zenith plinth]

This one was asking to be ran

[wise turtle]

Needless to say I did not complete it for the harvest scythe

[zenith plinth]

That happens (going through artifact portal is faster sometimes)

[zenith plinth]

Lol

[wise turtle]

Surprising to me that yesterday I unlocked the harvest scythe and the top 10% in the same hour or two

[wise turtle]

Kinda forgot artifact portals existed ngl

[zenith plinth]

Interesting

Also you can loop

Instead?

A little faster wouldn’t you think

[wise turtle]

Wdym, my brain isn't functioning rn and I don't understand

[zenith plinth]

Bruh?

[hallow basin]

What's this channel for?

[zenith plinth]

Prismatic trials…

[quiet warren]

Discussing the trials, Ethereal, or

[hallow basin]

💀

[hallow basin]

Just... Frog?

[quiet warren]

[hallow basin]

Hehe frog

[zenith plinth]

Click on the outer rings of the stage 5 tp and you can go to more stages as opposed to fighting mithrix

[quiet warren]

Actually, since it's the holiday season

[zenith plinth]

Frogobj

[wise turtle]

Oh yeah, kinda forgot about that

[zenith plinth]

What

Literally how

[wise turtle]

I'm stupid alr, very very stupid

[zenith plinth]

:)

Nah you’re just lacking memory units

👉

[wise turtle]

My brain is overheating

Permanently overheating

It just depends on how hot it is in there

[zenith plinth]

Yes

Uh I should go to bed it’s late and I have school tomorrow (or it’s today now)

Goodnight

[wise turtle]

Goodnight!! It was fun talking to you!

[zenith plinth]

You too

Bonsoir

[wraith cipher]

https://youtu.be/aMM1D3udO9Y

[rapid heart]

Very nice

[wraith cipher]

dropped the beacons too close on s1, but more than made up for it with that s2

[rapid heart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOVkjND4ErU

I do a slightly different route on stage 1

[echo tiger]

I DID IT (tho I did it w Huntress but still) Omg Im so proud of myself)

[hallow basin]

[empty rover]

Nice, nice

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyGZRJlYg-k

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#226

[zenith plinth]

why dont you ping femboy shy

@indigo snow

lazy tbh

[upper flare]

1:42.03 (rank 7 rn) on bandit, and by god its getting harder to improve lol

anyone else doin bandit? im thinking i could work on second phase path, but this is a super fun seed

[zenith plinth]

I’ll tell you tomorrow when I try the seed

[lone escarp]

Nice

[wet idol]

My first prismatic trial… not sure where to even see my rank.. I’m sure it’s not that high but pretty hype to finally beat it lol

[strange siren]

question: is there a consistent set-up for slamming on merc?

[solemn fiber]

@cyan stratus

[cyan stratus]

don't ask me, i don't really do it anymore unless completely necessary since you can't do it on console anyways

[quiet warren]

Technically, yes
Slams are performed by ending or crossing over the flying target's hurtbox with the dash
So it mostly comes down to practicing and muscle memory

Slams are a bit niche though, and usually only used to speed up fights vs the AWU, SCU, or Vagrants
They can be used on all flying targets though, such as Wisps (Lesser and Greater) and Brass Contraptions

Basically, the setup is understanding the distance of the dashes and memorizing flying enemy hurtboxes

I'm guessing you're on PC, so you probably have access to mods
Which will help with practicing a ton

HitboxViewerMod does exactly as it says and will help with learning the hurtboxes and hitboxes of various things
DebugToolkit for getting to specific stages or summoning an AI to fight against

[strange siren]

yeah, i sort of expected this kind of answer. i'm probably going to r&d a method, but my hopes were to find one that worked regardless of attack speed scaling on dashes

[quiet warren]

Yeah, there's not much more you can do here
Sorry

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDmgOZ9QGlI

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#227

[chilly zephyr]

Man 3 days go by really quickly

[teal panther]

cabg

but yeah, i wanted to do the old prismatic trial with the ceremonial daggers but kept forgetting to do so for some reason

[wintry grove]

fratpuma!!!!!!!!!

[hollow prawn]

Can you even get the mercenary achievement without that one prismatic trial

i feel bad for people who missed out on it

[quiet warren]

It's entirely possible
Easy trials aren't entirely uncommon
And if you're skilled enough with Merc, you can blaze through any trial

[marsh finch]

[stark vault]

can i ask what is the best character for prismatic trials. bandit is the fastest for me but maybe there are other better characters i don't know about. i cant get my time sub 5 min that's why i am asking for help.

[stark vault]

ok so i forgot about loader and got a 3:36

forget i was here

[frozen yew]

you can get 2:38 with bandit this one

i think best survivor depends on the trials usually but bandit is fun 🙂

[sterile fossil]

[daring forge]

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CllbbdkIBWQ

[modest mountain]

doing the mercenary ethereal achievement and is it just me, or does it seem essentially impossible on today's prismatic trial?

first round is only lesser wisps due to the artifact of kin, and you cant even get items from chests so you can strategize

[quiet warren]

Looking at how Cabbage took nearly 10 minutes to complete it
I'd honestly wait for the next trial

[modest mountain]

and mercenary is basically only melee, and lesser wisps are the opposite, and they spawn in such swarms, i dont know but it just sounds rather impossible

yeah probably

i tried getting the achievement on the last one, i got close sometimes, it was fun, but this one is just something else

[quiet warren]

Mercenary doesn't have huge issues with Wisps in normal play, but Prismatics are just built different
Wisps in normal play are okay
Wisps for Ethereal are

[modest mountain]

yeah

especially when i can't take any damage lmao

all prismatic trials are randomly generated right?

[quiet warren]

Yes

[modest mountain]

alright, wouldnt want anyone to do this just to mess with us heh

[quiet warren]

This is the first time I've seen Cabbage need more than 3-4 minutes to do Ethereal

[modest mountain]

i kinda just joined a few minutes ago, is Cabbage a pretty known experienced player?

[quiet warren]

Yeah
And he's more well known as the guy who uploads Ethereal "guides" every new trial
Which is really cool

[modest mountain]

ohh that's nice

[quiet warren]

I wouldn't say the guides are good for learning Merc, but they're amazing for determining the current trial and seeing what you can potentially do

Go check out his youtube, you can see his backlog of videos

[modest mountain]

gonna see if he did the same thing i used to do on the last trial, overly curious now

[quiet warren]

For general Merc use, I have a guide, but it doesn't cover Ethereal a ton

The section going over Ethereal can be summed up in
Practice, watch Cabbage, pray

[modest mountain]

i see

i started pursuing this achievement maybe a few days ago, and i feel like solely because of this achievement, i feel like mercenary might just be my new fav character

really fun to use

[quiet warren]

It's why he's my favorite:
Really effective, and even more satisfying to use

[modest mountain]

very satisfying indeed

i always looked down on him before doing this achievement, i just thought a melee based character is essentially suicide, but turns out thats not the case

[quiet warren]

Yeah, all of the melee characters/playstyles have something

[modest mountain]

ye it turns out

[quiet warren]

Merc slips in and out comboing the shit out of everything
Saw MUL-T shreds and tanks
Meleecrid also shreds and tanks
And Loader is
Loaderrrerererererere

[modest mountain]

mul-t isn't really melee though is it?

oh saw

[quiet warren]

No, but it can afford to stay in that range

[modest mountain]

ye i see

[quiet warren]

Tankiest character combined with one of the fastest primaries (Saw is 1000% DPS and an upwards of 10 procs per second due to hitting 10 times per second at a 1.0 proc coefficient)

[zenith plinth]

Loader is....imagine Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet right?
except in this case Loader is thanos and instead of the five infinity stones in the gauntlet Loader has and a Hardlight Afterburner (there's not hardlight afterburner sticker that's weird)
That's Loader-

[quiet warren]

No afterburner, but uh

Can I offer you a Hardlight Afterburger in these trying times

[zenith plinth]

Lol, seems like just the thing only this server would come up with

[empty rover]

Hardlight Afterburger my beloved

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#228

[daring forge]

lettuce

[chilly zephyr]

banned

[stark vault]

i think i can get a 2 minute run with loader i just need lightning punch and a lot of skill

[spark temple]

helikopter helikopter

[vernal sedge]

Made my first time today. Ain't nothing special but I got 6:55.

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZkUbTP8Lw8

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#229
mery chrimas

[chilly zephyr]

https://youtu.be/rcGEzrsSx6g just need to put over some Christmas bells and give her a Santa hat

[teal panther]

cabg

[strange badger]

i hate lesser wisps so fucking much i hate them so fucking much i despise them

[lament monolith]

can someone help me with todays trial? i need to do it to unlock the Scythe but i suck at the game

ive failed 10 times already 😦

or at least, what survivor did you use to complete it?

[chilly zephyr]

Follow this

Reading the description its apparently one of the easy ones, so complete the mercenary achievement while you're at it

[lament monolith]

ty

[zenith plinth]

why

the unit is like 3 hours away

[umbral oracle]

i love how Cabbage always has that same description

very good

[zealous mural]

yo look that's woolie

[tardy bay]

gl on this one cabbage

[cyan stratus]

lol this one is interesting

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3OeiD42O8 that was stressful

i went to the bazaar though, not really sure how possible it is without spending lunars

[quiet warren]

2 painful ones in a row

[cyan stratus]

last one was really easy from what i remember

i also forgot there's a guillotine on the 1st stage, probably worth picking it up if you're going for ethereal

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#230

[tardy bay]

rerecord with guillotine please

[cyan stratus]

would maybe be worth doing but the end of the video was too good to rerecord

[tardy bay]

yeah props, this one is something else

[cyan stratus]

there hasn't been a hard trial in months though so this one was refreshing

[quiet warren]

Didn't you have a hard one
Like 6 days ago

Or was that one just slow

[tardy bay]

the stage 1 wisps was just hiding till you won LUL

[cyan stratus]

oh i guess that one was technically difficult but i'm very used to wisps so it didn't take me long to do

was 2nd try after i mapped the route i think

[quiet warren]

9 minutes long lel
So just slow then

[cyan stratus]

yeah slow isn't always hard. sometimes the best strat is to just stand on top of a mountain and spam capacitor until the boss dies

[tardy bay]

how long till wig blows me outta the water

[cyan stratus]

this trial did not seem very fun to speedrun

[tardy bay]

it's a little tedious

gotta backtrack more than i'd like on stage 1

[cyan stratus]

rex can get a good s1 but killing the boss on s2 is extremely slow

[tardy bay]

am i missing some rex tech? some of your stages seem way faster than i think is possible lol

[cyan stratus]

scuffed run

nothing except just how to use the mobility skill i guess. rex used to be the best in trials for a while i so played it a lot

[tardy bay]

that's fair, his sprint animation makes me too uncomfortable so i don't touch him too much since i climbed him haha. definitely can see the potential though

[cyan stratus]

yeah rex is fun to use for trials because of mobility boosts from crystals and jump pads. the 1st boss is very unfun though

wanted to record a run but decided to not

[tardy bay]

thats why i like acrid for trials, similar jump pad techs

[balmy stratus]

The Ethereal achievement is hell omg

[hallow basin]

Why am I always seeing this video here

[chilly zephyr]

Cabbage

[manic turret]

How tf are you ever supposed to get the ethereal achievements wtf

[quiet warren]

A bit of luck and skill
More emphasis on the skill part, though waiting for an easier trial also helps

Cabbage's vids are good for finding paths throughout a given trial, though keep in mind they're PC only, and aren't the only path you should take - just an example

[chilly zephyr]

Its always recommended to just wait for an easier one

[teal panther]

"this trial is easy since all you need to do is not get hit"

[tardy bay]

2 golems blocked tp on my way out on s2 :) coulda shaved 5 seconds

[analog arch]

whats the best way to complete this trial cause im trying to get the harvester scythe

[shadow crest]

U only need to complete it to unlock scythe

[vagrant moon]

Pick your best/favorite survivor and give it a go. It will probably take a few tries 🙂

[delicate grove]

https://youtu.be/E2RkSqHTPQQ

i have committed a sin

[chilly zephyr]

get a role in #role-assignment to post images and embed

[delicate grove]

i had the 2020 art contest role before the server got hacked or whatever, i left the server when that happened

[solemn fiber]

Cabbage late

[cyan stratus]

oops i kinda forgot let me check if it's an easy one, otherwise i'll do it tomorrow

ok looks easy

[teal panther]

cabg

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyFw4kHFxfY

[static anchor]

How

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#231

[vagrant moon]

I'm not well versed with Merc, is it necessary to slide through the map on stage 2?

[quiet warren]

No
Cabbage's vids are mostly for showing one possible path you can take
From there you can follow it, or find your own

[delicate grove]

i posted a vid above that has an easier path involving less merc specific tech

[vagrant moon]

checking that out 🙂

[opal barn]

I got SLICING WINDS:

the date i got is 7/24/2021 its command and kin. It has imps the first stage and the next one has wisps. Im on console not sure if pc is the same. You want to stack fuels cells and brooches for forgive me please but first you want missile launcher. Also buy the two tc 280s they will help clear the imps. there is a lunar pod for you to get gesture

Switch btw

[quiet warren]

Console does not have the same trials as PC

[solemn fiber]

also trials change every 3 days

[opal barn]

you can change the trial using ur computers time setting as well as on console thats what i did

[solemn fiber]

...trials are run on a global server

modifying the time on your hardware won't change the global timer and trial

[tough belfry]

if it does work then there are for sure better trials to use

[delicate grove]

trials are recorded on a server but not run on a server

[opal barn]

i was also offline

[vagrant moon]

So I got the first stage cleared but not the second. Lemurians are annoying

I also haven't played Merc so I should maybe try some runs first

[quiet warren]

I have a guide for Merc if it helps

[vagrant moon]

I think I generally get it, but everything helps

[quiet warren]

It's on my profile

[vagrant moon]

Oh nice, I see it! Also hollow knight is awesome. Recently played it and loved it

[quiet warren]

Definitely

[vagrant moon]

thanks buds, got it done

[quiet warren]

Noice

[vagrant moon]

on to the mastery skin 🙂 That'll be more difficult, I imagine.

[quiet warren]

Good luck

[vagrant moon]

🙂

[teal isle]

Took me 11 mins to complete prismatic trial, legit speed run with loader to get my scythe item and I only had 8 items

[scenic surge]

Pretty efficient loader pathing:
https://youtu.be/QcPXzS0Y2Ks

[delicate grove]

thats cool, head stompers seem pretty good for damage

[quiet warren]

Ofc it's great for damage
Up to 10k% in a 100m AoE

[delicate grove]

i should probably unlock loaders ground smash attack too lmao

another way to kill crystals

[frozen slate]

eh its to short of a range

it doesnt scale distance traveled to range like headstompers

[scenic surge]

It’s essential for glass trials

[frozen slate]

well duh cause its still stupid fucking damage

[scenic surge]

Nah it kills the crystals without killing you

Outrantes them by like 1 meter or smth

Also

[delicate grove]

i just use grapple resets for glass trials

[scenic surge]

Wig, how’d you get 1:10 without slam?

[delicate grove]

loader can also kill crystals with primary attack without dying

i farmed crits

[scenic surge]

I’m bad at grapple resets

and uh, m1 on the crystals kills me modt the time

[delicate grove]

its only a 1/50 chance of getting both crits

[scenic surge]

oh no

How many tries was that?

[delicate grove]

a fair amount

theres another route you can do where you go to bazaar and get meteor but dont think its as consistent

[scenic surge]

Yeah the bazaar layout I found was more annoying

and stage 2 crystals aren’t bad anyway

[delicate grove]

idk exactly what makes this happen, maybe crystals have a random damage amount

[scenic surge]

I find some crystals are more likely to not kill you

when I do manage to pull it off

[delicate grove]

but in a more recent trial i think i managed to make it more consistent by pressing sprint as you punch the crystal a second time

that might just be me going crazy though

[scenic surge]

I always tap sprint after punching, which may be the problem

because first punch delay or something, idk

[delicate grove]

i should ping ghor and ask but

[scenic surge]

well 😳

@severe quiver apologies for the ping, but out of curiosity, do you know how the Knuckleboom loader tech thing works for glass trials?

[severe quiver]

might just be the distance

the damage isn't random

most explosions in the game will deal extra damage if you're close enough to the center of the blast

[delicate grove]

thankyou and happy new year

[scenic surge]

yee

[cyan stratus]

it's just loader getting barrier when you hit things, it depends on the timing between the two swings to hit the crystal

crystal deals 17 damage, i have 18 hp

[buoyant sonnet]

I love trials that use artifact of glass

I recall one a couple weeks ago that had Artifact of Glass and Artifact of Swarms. So you basically one-shot everything but everything also one shot you. I had fun with that

[teal panther]

cabg

[honest crypt]

Is someone Good on mercenary and could help me getting good enough to do the prismatic challenge flawless pls ? xD

[quiet warren]

I'm not in a position to do a multiplayer run, but I have a guide for using Merc if it helps

[honest crypt]

Yes just help will be a huge help for me thx

[quiet warren]

It's on my profile

[honest crypt]

Thx dude

[scenic surge]

New trial, with Kin (beetles and wisps), Command, Chaos, Swarms and Soul

[tranquil wolf]

oooo

thats do able with merc no hit :v

[scenic surge]

wisps will be 🤩

[ivory bane]

stage 2 was hell, was trying to help my friend

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EDFAxeDa-o

[ivory bane]

ty! sending this too him rn

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#232

[opaque hatch]

completed first prismatic trial :D Also siren's call is the first stage so it was an easy opportunity to unlock the character there

[scenic surge]

https://youtu.be/HxVP-MexVus

[fleet aspen]

Hey guys, does anyone have tips for the Ethereal Prismatic with merc this rotation? I've been trying to follow Cabbage's guide, but the wisps always manage to shoot me before I can get anywhere

[quiet warren]

Seems Cabbage is positioning himself and taking advantage of the easy kills for Brooch

[fleet aspen]

I... can't seem to be fast enough at the beginning of the second stage

I get shot before I manage to do anything

Also.. How is he not taking damage for the explosion of the first crystal, shift skill is down and so is eviscerate

[quiet warren]

Lingering iframes from Evis

Evis has ~0.6 second of iframes once it ends (totaling 1.6 seconds of iframes)

Watch the blue shield icon above his HP bar

[fleet aspen]

huh

I see

[honest crypt]

Thx a lot dude I just got it 🙂

[scenic surge]

😏

[daring knoll]

do items not stack in pris trials?

[sudden sonnet]

They do, why?

[daring knoll]

fuel cell doesn't seem to be stacking for me

I'm forever stuck at 2 charges for preyon no matter how many fuel cells I pick up

[sudden sonnet]

Hm, console?

[daring knoll]

nope, PC

[sudden sonnet]

I wouldn't know then, sorry, I'm the opposite of an expert.

[daring knoll]

no worries haha

pog, finally got the ethereal challenge

20s slower but honestly don't care lmao

[delicate grove]

[finite lance]

does anyone have tips for the ethereal achievment?

[quiet warren]

Practice Mercenary
Watch Cabbage
Try to find your own pathing if any video ones don't work out
Remember that the trial changes every 3 days, so if one just isn't working out, you can always wait for the next one

Topaz Brooches are your friends too, as Barrier doesn't count as HP for the trial (Though Shield will)

[finite lance]

Thank you very much:)

[quiet warren]

If you need any help with playing Merc as a whole, I have a guide if that'll help

[finite lance]

Ooo that might help if you have a link

[quiet warren]

On my profile

[finite lance]

thanks

[scenic surge]

😳

[teal panther]

cabg

[delicate grove]

[pliant sluice]

thank you cabbage <3

[scenic surge]

😦

[carmine dome]

huge tip someone told me, if you go to the bazaar (altar is on the side you spawn on siren's call) the second stage has beetles too instead of wisps

makes it easier for the ethereal unlock

plus you can grab 4 purities bc of command and be invincible with eviscerate on stage 2

[fleet aspen]

This sounds like heaven

Will try

[fleet aspen]

You beautiful person, I finally got it

[carmine dome]

nice :D

[quiet warren]

Noice

It's a good skill

[fleet aspen]

Probably stopping playing now for some time, only got a few more monsoon runs to do for 100% achievements 😄

then a break until the DLC drops

[hallow basin]

[tardy talon]

Holy shit this is huge actually god I'm actually gonna reboot my pc just to do that man I'm so tired of missing that one achievement

Could someone tell me how much time is left before trials reset actually

Cause if there's still a lot of time left I'd rather sleep

Nvm there's 21hours left I'm going to sleeb

[scenic surge]

1:17.77 is hard to beat

[vital garnet]

does anyone have any tips for beating it without getting hit as merc?

[solemn fiber]

wait no it hasn't been repinned

[solemn fiber]

.

[delicate grove]

@scenic surge heres my strat incase you want to try it

[tardy talon]

Thank you so fucking much

No more

[stone creek]

What's the best way to dodge wisp lasers?

[iron cave]

Get behind cover, they’re hitscan I’m pretty sure

[icy urchin]

or just kill them

[quiet warren]

Strafing, cover, or outright killing them
Merc's dashes also grant iframes, so you can time that too

[stone creek]

k and what items would you recomend?

[scenic surge]

huh. Mine’s completely different. Lemme try to make a video real quick

[quiet warren]

Topaz Brooch
Barrier doesn't count as HP for the unlock

If you're looking for a more general overview as opposed to achievement-specific, I do have a guide

[stone creek]

uncommons?

[quiet warren]

Any damage or proc items

ATGs are always good, same for Bands

Though in the context of a trial, it may be more wise to grab a Fuel Cell sometimes

[fleet crow]

Is it still that trial?

It is, for 5 hours

Another tip: If you can, get a Topaz Broach and you'll be able to take the hits from the wisps

[maiden rivet]

Just got the ethereal on this one, with a little practice and 12 lunar coins its very easy

Dash down to the newt altar and buy it for 1 coin, then take out the crystals, on the way buy chests. Topaz broach is a necessity, i got like 3, and then i took a missile and you just dash through the ice beetles 3 times and dodge the frost zone, and then go through the portal and buy the right dream for 3 coins which will take you back to titanic plains with beetles, then buy 4 items for 8 coins total (make sure they arent equipment) and just pick purity when they let you choose, then go through the blue portal and spam R until you win

GL to anyone trying to get it last minute

And ty to everyone above for those strats

[balmy tusk]

ayy

[scenic surge]

ayyyy

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8s7ahgp9yU

[tawny trail]

Bro this console trial is fucking nuts 😂😭

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#233

[daring jasper]

Can you do the mercenary ethereal today

[quiet warren]

.

[daring jasper]

O lol thabjs\

[sonic vortex]

do console and pc have different item drops cause on playstation I got the bands from a different chest and never got a preon

[cyan stratus]

yes, console trials are different

[fleet crow]

I thought Ethereal would have been my last achieve, I still have 5 left. Thankfully it didn't take me forever, thanks to the tips I found here.

[sonic vortex]

fuuuuuuuu**

[sonic vortex]

hey I love your tutorials but I hate that the console ones are diffferent I'm gonna be going through hell to unlock it

[sick marlin]

Any tips for trying to get ethereal on console rn? I can get kjaros but the equipment barrel gives me a blast shower

[stone creek]

anyone know what the legendary is for this trial?

[sick marlin]

OMFG I GOT IT

Exposing dash is op

[quiet warren]

I wouldn't say FA is stronger than BA, but it's definitely more fun to use for sure

And congrats on Ethereal

[sick marlin]

Ty ty, I've been at this for way too long xD

[quiet warren]

You've now got the overall better of the 2 specials

[sick marlin]

Ayyyyy

[stone creek]

How did you deal with the elder lemurian?

[sick marlin]

I never ran into one, my entire strategy was to get kjaros and then use the exposing dash to proc it and then let it recharge

[stone creek]

In this one with the artifact of dissonence?

Also I have learned that dashing through elder lemurians makes avoiding their fireballs a sinch. But the fucking robot eyeballs that SPAWN IN LASERING MY ASS FROM OFF CAMERA are preventing me from getting this etheral acheivement.

[sick marlin]

That's another thing I had to do was focus ranged enemies as soon as they showed up, but yeah it was the trial that's active rn

[stone creek]

In the abyss an elder lemurian starts spawned. But not 2 seconds into the boss, as blazing magma wurm wurms around, a laser robot spawns IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ATTACK THAT IS BULLS EYED ONTO YOU! HOW IS THAT FAIR?! Etheral aside, artifact of glass makes that a deadly encounter

Sorry. Deep breath I'm gonna try changing my positioning and try staying in air for the boss.

Maybe it automatically aims down.

[sick marlin]

I've got no idea tbh, I didn't even have to deal with a magma worm. I got overloading greater wisps for my boss

[stone creek]

What difficulty did it reach when you made it into abyss?

I wonder if I waited until it got to medium difficulty before going through if it has different boss encounters.

[sick marlin]

I think I made it to abyss in like 2 1/2 minutes or so

[scenic surge]

if u hit the mountain it causes blazing worm

[stone creek]

ok I'll keep track of my time

Nope I ignored mountain specifically to avoid a long fight

[quiet warren]

If you need help with Merc overall, I have a guide

[sick marlin]

I followed cabbages guide on routing at least since items are different between PC and console

[stone creek]

Ok I'm definitely taking loonger than 2 minutes

[sick marlin]

But all you really need is kjaros to proc

[stone creek]

Also, where's kjaros?

I found 2 syringes, 2 glasses, a tritip dagger

[sick marlin]

Hit the first crystal then drop straight down and therell be a large chest

[stone creek]

a bustling fungus

Oh. lemme try looking around there then

When I jump straight down I find a small chest with a syringe and a second crystal

Here I'll jump in vc and stream it maybe I'm blind

[sick marlin]

@stone creek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8s7ahgp9yU here's @cyan stratus video

[stone creek]

I DID IT!!

[quiet warren]

Nice

[stone creek]

YEEESSS!!! Screams in anger Suck it SOLUS PROBES!

Whew. Thanks ImABoi37. Twas very helpful.

[quiet warren]

You now have the overall better of the two specials

[stone creek]

[reef dome]

So many hours wasted, but I finally did it x_x

[quiet warren]

Nice

[delicate grove]

https://youtu.be/TwT3p7H1hX8

sub 1:10 achieved

[scenic surge]

Nice

With pylon too

[glossy tangle]

Nice work

[reef dome]

Many thanks! The current run was stressful due to Solus Probes and Blazing Greater Wisps x.x

[tacit cedar]

How did you do it? I keep dying to the greater wisps at the end

[ruby kindle]

my personal strat was to buy up all the missile drones stage 1, then buy up all the chests near the teleporter stage 2, and turn them into turtles

the barrier drains very slowly, so you're pretty safe from burn damage

[tacit cedar]

Ok

[golden bobcat]

Also theres this youtuber that makes a video for every prisimatic trial mercanary no hit tutorial

[reef dome]

I did some hit & run tactics. Since there's a large rock to hide behind, I started the teleporter and opened a chest to let loose some fireworks in stage 2 so it'll at least kill one wisp while I run away.

Once the enemies spawn, I wait for a Solus Probe to spawn on me and I immediately deal with it before I get rough with the wisps. I use Eviscerate when they're about to launch their fireballs, and then immediately use Focused Assault to retreat so the Blazing fire trail doesn't damage me (yes it can still hit you even midair).

[reef dome]

I would honestly wait for an easier Prismatic Trial if I were you. It was difficult to do this with Mercenary just for that achievement.

[scenic surge]

what

[vestal inlet]

I think this works as any character as long as you deal enough damage on the spawn frame

also, only one specific mob counts for this, you can't kill just any one

[delicate grove]

I want a trial with dios warp

[vestal inlet]

crystals :(

although a sky meadow trial with 2 reds would be neat

[vivid steppe]

I can’t wait to fight Mithrix for a prismatic trial lmao

[patent anvil]

No item + mithrix only prismatic trial

Every enemy is mithrix

[vivid steppe]

Artifact of King:

You are Mithrix... but all enemies are also Mithrix

[scenic surge]

https://youtu.be/pzq4p9rDi_o

**Sub 1:09.62 achieved 😈 **

[mellow kraken]

what if i were mithrix
😳 and you were also mithrix 😳
🙈 (and we were both mithrix!) 🙈

[vivid steppe]

This cringed me the fuck out

[mellow kraken]

sorry

[vivid steppe]

No do it again

[mellow kraken]

🙈 mithrix 🙈

[chilly zephyr]

I'm already Mithrix

[vivid steppe]

Maybe I'll be Mithrix
I'm already Mithrix

What about Providence?
I'm already Providence

[zenith plinth]

i want to be newt

😔

[chilly zephyr]

Nerf Newt

[mellow kraken]

youre right, so tharson

[vivid steppe]

I'm already Tharson

[delicate grove]

only 25 mins left 😓

[scenic surge]

😅

gotta grind this

[delicate grove]

wouldve been a sub 1:09 i think but preon hit a solus probe after tp activate

kinda glad this trial is over, that tunnel swing on stage 2 is so annoying

[scenic surge]

😉

[delicate grove]

lmao

in with the snipe

[scenic surge]

most stressed 9 minutes of my life

[scenic surge]

oh good it's not just me

[delicate grove]

oh joy more tunnel swinging

[scenic surge]

what's the trial?

[delicate grove]

just command pretty much

[scenic surge]

ah

lodr go one shot

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSwPsiHUpXs

[night sandal]

Are the enemy spawns in prismatic random-ish? I can barely even get the first crystal before a elder lemurian spawns and tags me

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#234

[scenic surge]

I think pre-determined but if something bloccks their spawn they spawn somewhere else

[south axle]

This should work on console too right?

[solemn fiber]

no

pc and console isn't linked to the same prismatic trial

[south axle]

but its artifact of command so item spawns shouldn't matter and the chest locations should be the same

[scenic surge]

Wig damn 1:15 that's insane

[cyan stratus]

:(

[delicate grove]

🤖

[cyan stratus]

btw what's the timing window for the s1 glacial imps

[delicate grove]

what glacial imps

you must be going too slow or something

[cyan stratus]

the s1 boss

[delicate grove]

its titan

[cyan stratus]

you sure about that

[delicate grove]

i got imps once i think

[cyan stratus]

might be faster

[delicate grove]

maybe, i didnt bother to fight them

[cyan stratus]

i'm not able to get them again so idk what kind of conditions you need but i got them on a 33.78 activation once

[delicate grove]

maybe too fast then

[cyan stratus]

if that's fast then i'm curious to see your route

or you could at least say your s1 time or something

[delicate grove]

you still have 49 hours to figure it out its fine

[cyan stratus]

i mean i think my route can get 1:15 or lower if no teddy bear procs but i'm just curious what you're doing

[scenic surge]

You summon the imps by blocking the titan

it’s sort of a choice which is cool

[cyan stratus]

oh makes sense, guess that's what i did

[hazy venture]

what class is best vs golems?

[quiet warren]

You mean the boss (Stone Titans), or the normal enemy (Stone Golems)?

Cause honestly either way, the answer remains the same: The two current best characters besides Heretic, which are Loader and MUL-T

[hazy venture]

just completed trials
tried mul-t twice, kept getting sniped by golems on the big tree map
tried acrid and kited while applying poison, i completed the trial

[quiet warren]

That work too

[tight sentinel]

I feel like doing the prismatic trial without taking damage is too difficult, is there some trick or I just need to git gud?

[quiet warren]

@tight sentinel, Cabbage's vid

Although tbf, Ethereal is a git gud style achievement

With enough skill on Merc, you could in theory blaze through any trial

[tight sentinel]

ill check it out, ty

[quiet warren]

I have a guide for playing Merc generally, if it'll help

[tight sentinel]

mmm probably, I guess he is doing something with his third attack+r? when can i find your guide

[quiet warren]

It's on my profile

[next shale]

Can i farm hermit crabs easy on this prismatic?

[cyan stratus]

inferior player grinds inferior route for 2 hours to save 1 second

[quiet warren]

Speedrunners after beating the previous score by 0.000001 second

[cyan stratus]

i'll post the run instead of hoarding strats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LyqgDApJWw

[delicate grove]

Hey now

Its not hoarding if its just one strat

Nice route, the out of bounds warp seems like a nice timesave

Start running any% again and ill share my route with you

[cyan stratus]

i haven't understood what's going on with any% for like a year now and i feel like it's too late to ask

my speedrunning days are over

but i am interested in what you did differently for this trial

[delicate grove]

Im sure you could beat your pb very quickly if you tried

But if they are over then thats also fine i guess

I just miss cabbage speedruns

[delicate grove]

[cyan stratus]

that run is hacked unless proven otherwise

[delicate grove]

but...

you can save time in your run if you kill both crystals immediately using capacitor

[cyan stratus]

not really, i need to walk forward a bit to be able to reach the grapple

and that wouldn't save 4 seconds lol

[delicate grove]

kill the third crystal with capacitor then open the chest after activating the tp

and find a better grapple location i guess

you also have the option to not use your pylon at the beginning

[cyan stratus]

yeah it loses a second though and i couldn't find a good way to use pylon to get up there

i'm not very good at loader

[zenith plinth]

Any tips for the current prismatic trial? All I wanna do is unlock harvester scythe

[quiet warren]

@zenith plinth

[tight sentinel]

How do u oneshot the crystal and the first enemy? I only do 50% of crystal health with my r, i guess it has something to do with the third attack but i cant figure how to do it 🤔

[zealous mural]

pin is not updated

[cyan stratus]

time eviscerate between the 2nd and 3rd m1 slashes

[quiet warren]

Ah, Evis extension

[tight sentinel]

ty

[sour spire]

how do you kill the first crystal in this?

[cyan stratus]

capacitor

[kindred sable]

Anybody have tips for doing a prismatic trial with mercenary I’m trying to get the ethereal achievement

[quiet warren]

@kindred sable
Here's cabbage's video on it currently

But for the most part
Practice with Mercenary. The achievement is fairly skill-based, so the better you are with Merc, the easier it becomes to complete the trial. I have a guide if it'll help
Watch the trial closely. Try to find your own paths through. Cabbage is great for finding one path, but that's not the only way.
Topaz Brooch and barrier in general is your friend. Barrier doesn't count as getting hit, so Topaz Brooches can really save you. Shield does count as getting hit however

[kindred sable]

Thanks for the advice

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2801ZnBLDqo

[coarse carbon]

goat

[delicate grove]

first time sub 50 for me

wait is this less than a second off being the fastest trial ever

[cyan stratus]

wasn't the fastest like 40sec

from 2021-03-10

[delicate grove]

oh yeah that one

the double meteor

[night sandal]

I feel like I'm going to need to wait until there's a stupid-proof seed with glass, command, an equip barrel, and sky meadow second stage before I can get the achievement.

[quiet warren]

Well, there is the case of practicing with the character
I have a guide covering general playstyle if it helps, but the overall tips are
Practice with Mercenary. The achievement is fairly skill-based, so the better you are with Merc, the easier it becomes to complete the trial.
Watch the trial closely. Try to find your own paths through. Cabbage is great for finding one path, but that's not the only way.
Topaz Brooch and barrier in general is your friend. Barrier doesn't count as getting hit, so Topaz Brooches can really save you. Shield does count as getting hit however

[night sandal]

unless topaz stacks beyond your max health that doesn't seem like it applies much this week

[quiet warren]

The main use is a buffer
It acts as a buffer for damage
Obviously, if you're skilled enough, you won't need that buffer for the trial
But anything helps

Plus, it might help with chip

It'll be a little easier to maintain it, thanks to too

This trial in particular seems fairly straightforward, with a bit of circle strafing and positioning

Blazing Enemies will definitely come with chip damage if you aren't careful

[solemn fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/883543296889196594/cabbage.mp4
#235

[teal panther]

cabg

[kind olive]

cabg

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQVUKdz7_3A decided to do this again

also shows how to skip the pillars and reach the arena without any movement speed items as merc, might be interesting for some

[icy urchin]

whirlwind good unit

[delicate grove]

i prefer this way

[cyan stratus]

you can also use vase while you're at it

[delicate grove]

Why would not get movement items

Just get them and the 4 glass and finish under 7 mins

[teal panther]

because merc mobility go brrr

also vase is cool

[cyan stratus]

well i was curious whether merc could get to the top without movement items, so i decided to find a route for it and wanted to show it

otherwise i would've grabbed some energy drinks and a feather

[tight sentinel]

Cabbage, i just got my first prismatic achievement + merc skill unlock,tysm for the videos

[scenic surge]

as loader can you one punch all the beetle guards?

[scenic surge]

wait nvm

[delicate grove]

you can

i think you may have to wait slightly for them to move though

[scenic surge]

just go to the right of the beetle yeah

then they all group sort of up

[scenic surge]

Y'all are doing something like this?

https://youtu.be/RmVGI7B9iaY

[pulsar night]

Any tips for the merc achievement with this trial?

[quiet warren]

.

I have a guide covering general playstyle if it helps, but the overall tips are
Practice with Mercenary. The achievement is fairly skill-based, so the better you are with Merc, the easier it becomes to complete the trial.
Watch the trial closely. Try to find your own paths through. Cabbage is great for finding one path, but that's not the only way.
Topaz Brooch and barrier in general is your friend. Barrier doesn't count as getting hit, so Topaz Brooches can really save you. Shield does count as getting hit however

[pulsar night]

Is guillotine worth grabbing over other greens?

[quiet warren]

It's a Glass trial, so you could probably get away with that

[scenic surge]

I think ATG is 30% damage up, whereas guillotine is only 17%

but guillotine is consistent

[wraith cipher]

https://youtu.be/E7HIHY4OS9E

[scenic surge]

oh my

that's amazing

Were the knuckbooms for timing?

[wraith cipher]

which one is knuckleboom again?

[quiet warren]

Loader Primary (M1)

[wraith cipher]

it gives a slight forwards boost

it doesn't really make a difference

[scenic surge]

that rock grapple is really fun

[carmine crystal]

how do i clear the prismatic trial with huntress?

[scenic surge]

default huntress?

[scenic surge]

Would recommend getting a Ice Band from the teleporter, than finding a capacitator on the ground in order to one shot the titan

[delicate grove]

you wouldnt think that both of these times use completely different strats

crazy

[cyan stratus]

are you using the downpatch strat like last trial

[delicate grove]

my strat last trial was insta kill both crystals with capacitor, go left of equipment barrel and open chest for runalds band, go and get shaped glass from the lunar pod

everything else is basically the same except faster because runalds is faster

also picked up bandolier to reset cooldowns quicker on crystals at start of s2 but not realy necessary

[cyan stratus]

getting that lunar pod saved time? seemed out of the way

[delicate grove]

The biggest timesave is using capacitor to destroy the last crystal and activating the tp before getting the chest with crowbar in it

[calm mica]

idk how you guys do it

im just glad i managed to hit under 1 minute with loader lol

[spark temple]

why do you exist

[scenic surge]

under one minute is still pretty good

I'm just trying Xenon's strategy seeing how far I can go with it

[tacit wolf]

Has anyone finished todays prismatic trial on Xbox yet? I hate that you have to fully go through commencement without getting hit. Lmk pls.

[scenic surge]

Activate teleporter prongs so you don't have to do commencement

makes it much easier

[tacit wolf]

Sounds good

Let me try, thanks.

[delicate grove]

i dont know much about boss skipping but looks like grapple did it here?

havent been able to reproduce it yet but i think using this + bandolier could lower the time enough to beat the current fastest trial wr

[scenic surge]

Seems to be anything that’s a projectile can boss skip, I’ve heard Gasoline and even thunderslam can boss skip

[delicate grove]

Ive boss skipped the stage one boss with charge gauntlet but its useless since there is more than one enemy

In the video the damage number appear to the right and behind me a bit so im not really sure where im supposed to aim tbh

[vestal inlet]

frame perfect

[delicate grove]

oooh

i dont really get how they are different but its cool

but also kind of not cool since you have to be able to do it to get near the fastest possible time

going to try and go for it on stage 1 atleast

[delicate grove]

i did it but accidentally hit the jump pad on the way back to tp lmao

[vestal inlet]

you don't have to run up, doing it from the tp is fine

[delicate grove]

do you have to hit the ground where it spawns?

or just anywhere where is is going to be when it spawn

[vestal inlet]

not 100% sure, but I do think you have to hit the ground for it to connect

[delicate grove]

nioooo

i did it but got killed by a meteor trying to pick up band

[delicate grove]

got one, wasnt standing on tp though