#prismatic-trials
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For sure. I’ll give it a few tries
2 guillotines I consider mandatory, that way you can skip the succ
Maybe 3 to be safe. The rest is really up to preference but as always squids help a lot. There's two barrels by the tp so you csn have 3 active squids in the boss fight
Gotcha!
@indigo snow ,console trial a bit up
I guess it didn't go so well, Kuze?
there was another guy who did this specific console trial besides me
he opted to pay the newt shrine
your boss will become a blazing stone titan, which he killed by buying 4xglass from the lunar bazaar
if you go that route you won't have to grind stage 1 at all, you can just buy the turret, activate the teleporte, escape to the columns
was doing runs and saw this
saw what?
each drop is 5%
and?
this clip is so satisfying
oh, you got 2
3
ok, thats pretty clean
also really nice punch, you lined them up pretty much perfectly
any tips for the current trialk
if you want to, you can go to the bazaar and then to stage 2 and the enemy will be beebles instead of lemurians
there is a newt altar to your right as you spawn, behind the arch
otherwise, just follow cabbage's video: might have to practice the wall clip a bit but you will get the hang of it
Tips in general or tips for Ethereal?
Buy drones and turrets, avoid battles you don't have to fight
Time is usually on your side, as you outscale enemies via leveling the first two stages
And most importantly Ethereal is a test of your strategy more than your execution. Find a good route
This game is utter garbage.*
*Note: the game is not actually utter garbage.
would it be possible to punch in a circle? I know with thunder gauntlet you don't have to let go for the grapplee when you punch
seems like itt could be be possible in theory to swing a circle to punch most if not all the lemurians
also good job
nice to see cabbage is playing MUL-T again
The other approach has a lot of steps and places it can go wrong, relying on randomness. While this approach is much faster and simpler, it does cost up to 9 lunar coins per attempt.
Couldn't leave well enough alonee so I did the strat I think about every trial that sucks
Second strat if you have coins to burn @vagrant yarrow
"This game is utter garbage.*
*Note: the game is not actually utter garbage."
Amazing
@white frost Oh dear god. That’s..... intriguing
That seems actually possible.... and really really easy. No crabs, no vagrant, just 9 lunars and the run’s over
as long as you don't get hit, which can still happen
Eh... yeah. Got sniped by a few wisps on my first attempt, but it doesn’t seem super difficult
try to stick to bumpy terrain, it provides more cover than you might expeect
run in zig-zags and listen to the wisp chargeup-sound
you wanna use any of your abilities right before they fire
even a sideways whirlwind will dodge a wisp shot with good timing
try not to waste abilities, always keep one or two off cooldown
AAAAA
Didn’t read this before I started that run
There’s 7 coins down the drain to the first damned wisp I encountered
yeah, there's a couple of wisps on the way
try practicing the route while buying nothing at the bazaar
Ah.. gotcha. Will do. Because that first stage is a joke!
also, remember when you asked if lunar coin droprate is increased in trials?
Yep. I swear it is.
I think it's not, but you usually play on drizzle, right?
Fairly sure droprate is affected by difficulty, and trials are rainstorm
No it isn't
yeah, however
Worst comes worst, I can toss on command and snag a few bead runs
But hopefully that’s unnecessary
but each drop of a lunar coin per run halves this chance.
this means spamming short runs is the optimal way to farm coins
Or.... beads, right?
25 minute run for 15 coins
I mean that does sound optimal. And has no rng
20 if you're zoomin
yeah, go punch a lunar scav with loader for great justice
30 if you're cap or engi
Hah... around 60 if you’re arti I asssume? Haha
I unlocked most my arrtifacts on PC by going for coin runs, tbh I didn't bother with beads
don't diss mah gurrl arti
I wasn't searching cuz im bad at searching
Wasted 15 minutes for acrid place searching till friend literally lead me in there
I've had some pretty great runs with her, regardless of loadout
Confirmed:acrid is FUCKING DUMB
Wasted 15 minutes for acrid place searching till friend literally lead me in there
Took me a good minute my first time too. After that it just becomes extremely obvious somehow
It's a big cave smh
Well yeah, that’s fair. Also, I’ll toss a few runs in once I’m done with my maths here.
if I could give you my 80 coins I would, I have no use for them
if you lose against scav do you get 5 coins or 0?
wiki is unclear on the matter, I know you get a total of 15 if you win
so you get 5 coins even if you lose?
I mean you still obliterate, so that does make sense. Also! I have a decent stock of lunars already. I should be somewhat okay
Today I realized you can unlock Moon Worshipper with a single bazaar visit now that bazaar sells 5 items
Did you know there was supposed to be a moon seer
But it went unused for some reason
You can look in text files and find seer line for commencement
If you have the Beads of Fealty, you will not receive the 5 Lunar Coins by Obliteration default
If you die within A Moment, Whole where the Twisted Scavenger spawns, you will not receive anything
I'm trying to get the mercenary secondary skill for the first time, any advice? Spent an hour trying to defeat the first teleporter...
Check pins. PC or console?
PC
See cabbage's video in pins I guess
if you hit newt shrine and enter the blue portal stage 2 will be beetles instead of lemurians
Worst comes worst, I can toss on command and snag a few bead runs
@vagrant yarrow
Worst comes to Worst you can Edit the files
How do you do that on ps4
You don't
Hah... I wish. Put a few tries in today again. Getting hit by wisps, but it’s not suuuuper difficult to completely wipe them out when they spawn. I just can’t dodge them
Could a brooch and a repulsion armor fix it?
Oh? How do you think repulsion would help?
Reduce damage to your barrier so it lasts longer
Just one will reduce wisp damage to 1
i got etheral finally. got reaction on stream. it was a super sick time
I have lost to the damn wisps so many times on the final teleporter now
I am so stupid
I have died to the same pot twice now
I swear when I get this I am never playing merc again
I AM NEVER PLAYING MERCENARY AGAIN
what printers are there available?
im trying to get the merc special, wondering if theres a topaz broach or teddy printer
There is a reason of why only 5% of the players on steam got this comedy achievement
I did it today without any
both teleporters are right next to a spot on the map that you can dash into and become invincible as long as you dodge the ice elites death
@silver sequoia
ive got the first stage down pat
wheres the second spot?
the rock is too small and i get shot
inside the leg to the aquaduct
I keep touching the trails of the blazing lemurians after I dashed
inside the leg to the aquaduct
??
I just rushed it and never encountered a blazing until the first teleporter, then rushed the second and got it in like 3 minutes
one sec
for the first stage im at the invincible spot in 30 seconds with the teleporter activated, so thats no issue for me
second stage though
wait you dont have to kill all enemies to activate teleporter of something?
no
charging, not finished
oh INSIDE?
yes
fuck
trying to get back speedily so I can show but I keep dying lmao
this corner
just utility dash?
Where the first invinsible spot though?
I entered it once and I cant get in the second time
one sec
it definitely helps to get that pillar dash when you're right next to it btw
if you watch my stream you can see where i go for my spot 
also I think your special dash works better with that one for some reason
@noble dagger this corner
I figured that I need to look right to get in
I cant get in if I was facing left
it helps to double jump up and hit it at a downward angle
how am i able to finish them off after the portal charge up though

they will all spawn close enough and get closer to hit with your third swing
just make sure you don't accidentally pop out
k imma try
if you face your camera to face the rock from the outside you can position yourself to be right on the edge of the rock but not in damage range
yeah i cant get inside on the second one
but now im reliably getting to the second stage in under a minute....
omfg i did it, without glitching inside
2:30 for ethereal
nice
idk how I did it either lmao I went back to try to demonstrate and I couldn't do it
but I did it 3 times in a row when I was actually getting ir
https://youtu.be/fUrj9q_EqZ8
@vestal inlet How does he Do the double punch for the crystals in the first area
This game is utter garbage.*
*Note: the game is not actually utter garbage.
You need to level up to 4 on stage 1 to be able to quickly break the crystal on stage 2.
it says its on a 5s cooldown but he thros like 5 of them out
@spring cape if you miss with a grapple the cooldown is reset
and if you are just barely out of range for it to grab something, but still damage
it will damage but still reset
Just in case a noob like me is struggling with the current trial, using Artificer with Ion Surge as a special trivialized the whole thing, u just fly over everything, focus down wisps and its ezpz
FUUUUCKKK
I finally made it
I succesfully glitched in a few times
But at last I done it without glitch
new trial lets hope it ain't honor
these artifacts look kinda uhh
ohno its honor
enigma at least I guess
and chaos
just gotta hope for some juicy wall-clips
well there is a clip for stage 1 at least
stone golem makes clip cheese very hard though
im excited to see video then
did you just fight it out
two tonics makes that seem not that bad
this is just the same trial as 5/29
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
the 2nd titan "fight" went wrong but it worked out at the end, you want to lure it in a spot so it won't fall onto that ledge preferably
if you're wondering what happened for the 2nd stage, the ledge down there i...
ah no I didn't finish fast enough for leaderboards big sad
good trial run though
I mean there are a lot of cheaters
judging from my experience with the trials it seems impossible, but I only spent like 20 min on the trial so idk
First boss is elder lemurians which sucks a bit
But there's a hundred ways to approach this level
Loads of drones and turrets, you can lure that stone titan into the pit, there's an early equip drop
I'm paralyzed by choice here
ur seed must be glitched
How are you getting elder lemurians? I'm getting overloading stone titan for both bosses
its stone titans both stages
console
hes on console
ohhh
omegalul
I didn't know console gets a different layout ><
Are leaderboards separate then for console and PC?
yes, because they arent on the same update
The main difference is console is stuck on the same four artifacts every time
Command, Sacrifice, Soul, and Chaos
Most of these are good, but Sacrifice is awful
def a bug
Soul is a bit bad until you get a brooch, and Chaos can be used to yiur advantage
It's confirmed to be a bug
sacrifice is definitely very unfortunate :c
Removes a lot of the reliability of the whole concept of same-seed runs .-
I've noticed sometimes it feels like I get the same item drops /somewhat/ consistently, but not 100%, is there any existing research into trying to get consistent item drops from sacrifice ?
Like with the last (PC) trial while as mercenary, I felt I was getting a tri-tip dagger as my first mob drop in about 80some% of my runs, but it didn't always seem to be from the same enemy either.
couldn't tell if I just had weird luck, or if there was some intended consistency there
items always drop in same order, but if they drop or not is normal random sacrifice rng
I definitely got items in different orders, unless some times it just dropped off screen without me noticing
some enemies have a higher drop rate, you can see the drop rate of individual enemies just by opening the console on PC
Yeah, I'm very familiar with how sacrifice RNG works normally
outside of that there is no way to manipulate drops
The order is the same, but sometimes enemies you don't see can die and drop stuff
I see, thanks all for clearing that up ><
Second drop for this trial is an equip, so you can get preon very early
One other question - what does killing extra Time Crystals do? I saw in the pinned run for ethereal today that they went and broke more than just the first three
I think the simplest strat is farm for that preon and make the first drop fuel cell
Crystals give money
aa, okay \o/
This challenge is easy because all you have to do is buy drones.
Honestly, this one took a few attempts. I was trying to hit the mountain shrine, but my drones couldn't consistently survive the elder lemurians without copious grinding, so I removed that part and just went fo...
@indigo snow
@vagrant yarrow maybe this is your lucky trial?
It's a bit tough to start with it, but both boss fights are trivial if not self-concluding
Stage 1 is abyssal depths which has no wisps, and by stage 2 you csn have a small army of drones
Hah... I’ll give it a shot. I might’ve been able to get it with the last one if I hadn’t been swarmed with uni
Good you have your priorities straight!
Boss cancelling shennanigans: https://youtu.be/UFggQ4IhPNo
Boss cancel discovered by Xenon: https://youtu.be/I_zPwCYrVjk
Just before the boss spawns in and the boss flag is set, the hitbox for the boss still exists above ground, and hitting it results in the boss taking damage and never getting the boss flag for some reason. Without ...
Ah right, the brief window where the health bar just says "horde of many"?
I wonder if you'd achieve 100% calculated using that trick
for the cancel to work, you need to hit just before the health bar shows up
and I couldn't get it to work against hordes specifically
wth, boss cancelling XD
that's a good time with that route and a neat idea, pretty nice
(I totally thought this was a PC run, LOL)
Is the current one a good seed for the merc challenge
any tips for getting merc challenge done on console? real struggle out here TvT
stuck with mercenary challenge as well. The video of cabbage doesn't help too much, is way too hard to pull off
I would recommend waiting until a week with glass for all you PC players
well, but what if the rest is garbage? it highly depends on artifacts, right now it seems doable with extreme luck, but depending on what is next week it might be impossible
No you Don't understand stand there are only four artifacts that are ever active on console for the trials
if there is glass it is usually pretty easy
but if it is not just wait until glass again or grind it out
I was talking about PC @small plover I know that the artifacts are frozen on console :(
Its so fucking annoying
trials really need a "restart trial option in the esc menu"
restart option would be nice in general yeah
I cant even stand still to grab a fucking item!!!!
But that doesn't solve anything if i cant actually grab an item
honestly grinding that challenge just feels like a waste of time. guess I have to cheat that
probably meant that they can't still to get an item without getting hit
what's the artifacts rn
Because im playing merc
cause more spawn and i assume selecting items on console is slower
One hundred percent slower

Ok so the other problem is i either start in sirens call or the other stage 4 so there is always an elder lemeriun
i mean, im only speaking from someone else's potential perspective, not mine
Because on console the artifacts and other modifiers are locked until the next update
in fairness when I did ethereal on console I didn't bother picking up boss items or any items unless there were absolutely no enemies in sight, the only time I got an item was a preon from rallypoint, on my winning run the only thing I had was said preon
I think the usual strat for ethereal on console is to either avoid items or pick them up after tp with no monsters
i think i did pick up the boss item, but i didn't want to hang around to clear out enemies so i just panic pressed the a button and was rewarded with a rose buckler, which truly did help me so much
I can't even
How the HELL do i do ethereal on merc, its so hard

What I do is only pick up items once every enemy is dead
I have a pinned video for console version. It's not the easiest, but the strat for the first boss is just going AFK while your drones kill it, and for the second one you kill it in two preon shots. The hard part is only setting this two situations up
Since drones are doing all the heavy lifting on stage 1, you don't need any items until its done @small plover
The problem is my luck is so fucking awful
I had a perfect run adn then no fucking godam equipment spawned
I think you can do fine without having the equip. Stage 2 gives you at least two extra missile drones to buy
they're both in the trench where you start, but it's a bit trick to save up for them with all the wisps around
2 missile drones is enough to kill a blazing stone titan without your help, so 3 should definitely be enough. You can simply hide in the pit during the fight
For Nintendo switched do the artifacts ever rotate
No. It's a known bug and the reason why I post a seperate Ethereal route for console trials
Anyone down to help me get Merc: Ethereal?

Any help with the new seed on console?
Haven't looked at it yet, figured I'd finish work for the day first
what's the stages?
You can AFK grind stage 2 with squid polyp
Probably they can just kill the boss for you
Wtf, blazing grovetender?
Okay, so if you don't take blue portal, maybe it's better to deal with blazing AWU, I'll check portal out
You can only buy one glass, the other 3 are all equip
Wtf, blazing grovetender?
That sounds awful
Maybe, but there's a mountain shrines and I could make them kill each other
@small plover which console are you on? There's a switch-exclusive trick
I think I've found the optimal route here, I just need to refine stage 1 a bit
don't have time to grind attempts right now, stage 1 is tricky
but the general strat is to do stage 1, don't take blue portal, pick squid, earn some money on stage 2 and set up a squid station
the squid station should earn you money and another green item, also squid, there's a second squid station next to it
with six squids you can go shopping for an hour and come back to just a ton of items
I didn't get an equip after like 20 minutes, so I think I'll rack up tri-tips and AP rounds instead
Cabbage hasn't put out a video yet either. How horrible is the pc trial?
I give up on going for 0 damage, beetle queen just sucks too much
if it was any other boss on stage 1 this would've been easy
I've done stage 1 without damage a few times, but stage 2 takes a lot of grinding and can go wrong despite it
would not recommend this trial, but nevertheless
I have no way to prove this strat works. You can clearly tell I didn't take 170 non-brooch damage, but I can't prove I took no HP damage without going frame-by-frame. In theory, despite the damage number, you should be able to unlock Ethereal like this.
The non-brooch routes ...
@indigo snow it's done
Kind of a hack this trial, sorry about that
Old pins are still there
can someone explain what are the prismatic trails? I have been playing for 2 months now but I know about whats up with that
It's a side mode where you beat two levels. The levels are the same for everyone playing the game and change every 3 days
You should play through it since it unlocked the best healing item in the game
you already have the best healing item in the game, it's called desk plant 
I played once to unlock something but I don't remember anymore
if you beat it, you unlock Harvester Scythe
ya also need it for ethereal achievement but that ones alot harder than getting the harvesters scythe
Bruh this seed looks like cancer
@cyan stratus waiting
Does anyone know if prismatic trials have moved in the menu? I thought it was in the alternate gamemodes section, but I don't see it there
Are you using mods?
I have the BepinEx preloader, but im not currently using mods. Do i need to get rid of that for prismatic trials to work?
hmm, idk
but I have heard that mods can cause trials to go adios
so maybe something to try, yeah
use r2modman
k
tell me about the PC trial
haven't touched it
I got Ethereal and noped out of trials permanently
haven't had time to try this trial until now, was hoping for something free but this one is looking like a 15min one
Oof. What's the artifacts?
sacrifice enigma etc
enigma doesn't seem so bad
yeahhh and the first few equipment aren't particularly that helpful
and solus probes for first tp
oof

dissonance, huh?
stupid strat i came up with involves a clip into a rock which works like 1/10 times after spending a lunar coin
I tried the trial once today, saw the solus probes, and thought maybe I will wait till next week
lol
i mean i basically got ethereal except for the part where i gave my hellfire tincture to an equipment drone and it used it on me
might just upload that if i'm not able to do it again
i want to see that version
ok i did it but this trial is actually stupid nobody else try it
just wait like 2 days
is your youtube description still going to claim this trial is easy
it's easy i'm just bad at this game
for some reason i can't clip into a rock
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
the clip into the rock on stage 1 is stupidly inconsistent and you only get an attempt after spending a lunar coin. the probe ai is stupid, since half of the time they don't follow you and the other half they hard ch...
I didn't think void reavers could even spawn in trials
i even got a scavenger to spawn in trials the other day
huh
I finally got ethereal a few days ago from your vid
I never realized you could dash into certain objects so I just cheesed both teles
I figured something out about merc that probably everyone except me knew
You don't have to time anything with merc, you can just hold down the buttons
What it means is you can easily attack blazing enemies without getting hurt
Just press dash, hold eviscerate, and then hold dash during eviscerate, and you simply can't be hurt in the process
This works for attacking crystals too
Eviscerate and hold the whirlwind button, and you'll 100% whirlwind the crystal without taking damage
I thought that was known 👀
you can hold down buttons to do that on every character but commando 👀
and captain 👀
and that works even if seems dash is going to reset,
for example you dash, you wait a second or two, you eviscerate but as long as you hold down dash, you'll dash
Seems it doesn't work for eviscerate
But you can hold blinding assault and whirlwind
I'm sure it was known, I just don't really play merc and nobody's ever told me about it
So safest attack against blazing enemies is eviscerate in, then just hold dash to make a surefire escape
Sure makes a joke of blazing grovetender
Another observation on console trials is the ancient gate in aqueducts
It's not too hard to make the two lemurians fight to the death
Fire lemurian will likely win every time, and then get caught in the ice blast. You might be able to execute him at that moment
Since command is enabled, you can pick any two greens you want
i only hold m2, dash gives more control if you tap except with stuff like blazing enemies as you said
How often does the seed change?
Interesting, in this video: https://youtu.be/UFggQ4IhPNo
With the boss cancelling, the first boss drops an item along with the boss item, because sacrifice is on
Boss cancel discovered by Xenon: https://youtu.be/I_zPwCYrVjk
Just before the boss spawns in and the boss flag is set, the hitbox for the boss still exists above ground, and hitting it results in the boss taking damage and never getting the boss flag for some reason. Without ...
You can see it drop at second 34
How does one get past with 100% HP?
I've done this for like an hour and keep getting pinched
in order of usefulness:
- don’t get hit (really utilise your iframes. there’s some specific combos that help with this a ton)
- topaz brooch. if the day has the swarm artifact on, you can basically just chain kills and get infinite barrier. taking barrier damage doesn’t count as taking damage past 100% hp, similar to the huntress challenge
- tougher times can straight up block damage
freakin
wisps spawning behind me and hitting me from off screen
ruin the 100% health challenge so often
The only problem is artifact of chaos is up
So you don't really get a choice for items
Wrong artifact
new trial get hyped
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
most items are optional, just get preon when you spawn instead of forgetting it and having to go back up like i had to
Just to be sure, cabbage was not orange all along, right?
like I'm not going crazy here
im here to voice my anger for the mercenary challenge
it drives me fucking insane and its the only thing that pisses me off about the game
np
also thanks cabbage
i came close to beating it thanks to your video, but i realized i was too slow
its too late guys, i already got all 5 nitros
This took me an embarrasing amount of attempt considering neither boss is that hard and the first item dropped is an equip. Nothing in particular makes it tough, it's just generally a lot of wisps.
I delay picking up the preon on purpose. By taking the fuel cell first, you ca...
Sorry I'm late @indigo snow
after 300+ minutes i finally got this one i'm going to cry
anyone been able to do ethereal on the latest trial

I swear to God, Ethereal is the worst
it's an incredibly strict challenge tied to a constantly changing gamemode
An unlock that actually matters to the player's gameplay experience is gated behind it
prismatic trials is the opposite of constantly changing
Same seed, yes, but it updates frequently is what I mean
if you can't get it in 3 days you can't get it on that seed
Okay, yeah, honestly, you have a point
the problem is really the opposite
you can't try again and hope for more favorable circumstances, because the circumstances are the same every time
unless, of course, you want to wait three days before attempting an unlock again
Oh yeah, and I never even got around to mentioning the fact that this incredibly strict challenge built into the game was somehow not added with enough foresight to include a restart button
I mean it doesn't really matter to the gameplay experience tbh
strongly disagree
but just wait till there is glass, boom you win
it forces you to get good at merc, and to understand pris trials
if it was just a steam achievement or whatever I would agree that it doesn't matter
but there's actual content gated behind it
true
but not important content
even if you main merc chances are you use evis anyway
yeah but if you main merc you'd still wanna try out an alternative sidegrade at least once 
yeah, true
I don't know about the ethereal
like on one hand I like the challenge, but on the other hand I can see it not being for everyone
I guess you can always edit the save files, but that is a lame solution
This is the best seed for ethereal yet
Broch, tougher times and ukulele on the first stage
Still hate the achievement though
finishing a pris trial unlocks a new item
finishing a pris trial as the mercenary without taking damage unlocks his alt secondary
other than that, they are just a fun little competition
(ah the person this was replying to deleted their message I guess)
Still doesn't change that you have to go 2 stages with 1 broch
For the merc achievement
And sometimes, the artifact setup and seed makes it impossible
Anybody got any tips on how to get past stage 2?
preon
stage 2 the bosses are two blazing clay dunestriders LOL I cant flawless that
crowbar and preon makes it very do-able
2 dunestrider means half health, its actually an advantage
Prismatic Trial er rigget lol.

where is todays?
:wait:
Who failed?
welp time to check in every three days to see if the prismatic trials has the artifact of glass active. you already know whats going on
Getting ethereal: hour 4
90% of my runs end because I have no dashes charged and a single wisp snipes me
I've gotten to stage 2 four times in the four hours I've played
ohno
The other 10% of deaths is taking 1 point of HP in fall damage
Even with a broch, teddy bear and ukulele a few wisps are overwhelming
wisps are defo the #1 priority
are you struggling with the beetle queens?
or with the first tp fight in general, I mean
well I am asking because I was thinking about looking for an oob at the first tp
Or not having any dashes to be able to refresh my broach
as that seems like the really challenging bit
First TP isn't that bad if you kill a few enemies first
where is the challenging bit then?
But the second stage
Teleporting imps, tons of buffalo things, canisters that explode when you dash into them, hordes of wisps that spawn alongside tons of elite monsters,
It's hell
But
If I can find the preon
I mean you shouldn't really be spending time there though, right
like grab preon, crowbar, kill boss and get out
did you watch the cabbage vid?
No
Do you not get the mercenary achievement for taking damage to your PSG shields?
you don't
Dang. I spent quite a bit of time today and finally got a run where I never dipped below 100% health, but I did take damage to my shields
shields are health
Thought it was gonna be super easy with two PSGs lol
It's kinda misleading because the PSG hitpoints are displayed in addition to your health pool. So like starting with 100 base HP and picking up a PSG will show (something bigger than 100) / 100
if shields were ok it would be really easy if you just take transcendence
correct
Finally got the ethereal achievment today
Ethereal hour 6
took me 7
My mercenary pick percentage is 57%
And I'm not a merc main
That's how much I've tried this
Welp I can't do this today, all I have left is a few hours tomorrow
It sounds like you're not practicing stage 2 at all
You should finish the run even if you get hit. Scouting while in a legit attempt is pretty hard to do and only something I could see Cabbage pulling off
when does the prismatic challenge change? because the current one is kind of difficult to complete for the ethereal challenge.
There's a timer on the leaderboard screen. It changes every 72 hours
wow didnt see. even tho its huge but thx anyway.
I thought as well shields arent health. They really need to clarify
also right now the teleporter in stage 2 is quite hard because of all the wisp and lemurian that spawn
Does console have the same artifacts for every prismatic trial? I keep getting sacrifice which is ruining my attempts
yes
but it is not intentional, and will hopefully be fixed in 1.0
This is hell
I've spent like 8 hours on this
I can hardly get past the first half of stage 2
I've restarted so much my merc pickrate is 57% even though I'm not a merc main
well get ready for a new one
Probably a worse one
(might be a better one)
Very slight
Past 2 were bad
I may just edit my save data to unlock it if that's even a thing
Struggling for 8 hours to get a mediocre attack isn't really a good experience
well if you are struggling with it for 8 hours then perhaps this isnt the time to do it
It's 10x better than the other 3 times I've tried it
well for the trial, yeah
but also for you
like maybe you should work at merc a bit first
57% of your pick rate doing the same pre-planned 2 minute section over and over
well just hope for glass then I guess
Glass isn't always good
it is for ethereal
Not really. If you get a broch it can save the game
Which I have
And it still doesn't work
well I'm not saying glass trials are always the best
I am just saying that there is no downside to having the glass artifact
Also, if the next trial isn't good I have to wait like 3 days
If the next one isn't good I have to wait 3 more
If that one is also bad that's another 3 days
honestly maybe you should cheat it in
you seem kinda salty about it tbh
After 8 hours of wasted fun yes
@cyan stratus waiting
why are we waiting?
wait new trials not out, is it?
ohno nobody's answering I think I did a dumb
12 minutes left
cabbage is so fast he does it in negative time
^
Not even going to try in 6 minutes
one minute get hyped lads
This is worse
this seed is free
On ninten switch do the artifacts ever rotate
no
cabbage got ethereal before I even finished lol
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
i was too lazy to actually fight the lemurians so i waited for preon, but you can also just kill them
#81
wait, why did enemies spawn at the end when the boss was deaed
Every time I try to follow your seed guides cabbage I still get murked by wisps 😞
ethereal challenge done. its easier than it looks tbh. took me about an hour.
what's the current seed?
woo i got ethereal
i made a very rough map of the 1st stage (rallypoint) using my take on @cyan stratus 's run, only real difference is actually taking items that may or may not help out
gonna do the 2nd stage in a sec
oops, forgot to post it, here's stage2
I swear down I did ethereal I didnt see my health go below 100% but I didnt get the achievement
anyone ideas how to get below 2 minutes 
I guess there are only 7 people in the world who know it works, but open for ideas :D
I just did it again why am I not getting the achievement
what the heck are the sub1 ppl doing
cheat
well that's a possibility I guess
but why would you stop at 45 seconds then :D
hmm so I can't ever really know what my "real" placement is I guess :/
nope
well I guess I can see if anyone here uploads a faster version
also I guess 6 & 7 should be possible somehow
with insane ai luck / you know a lot better how ai behaves than I do
Any ~1m times with Huntress are probably cheaters
if anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1kV5awGg_8
now you improve on that :P
Id assume even with cheats its hard to get much faster than 45 sec. Even with skipping stages and insta charge tp you still have to find the tp and activate it in the end
what's keeping you from teleporting to the teleporter?
i'd assume merc times aren't possible
Dont know of any cheats that would let you do that easily. The cheats mod only lets you skip one stage at a time and make the tp insta complete
But you still have to do everything else inbetween yourself
I mean cheat engine could do that probably
Maybe the cheat% prismatic trial scene is just poorly optimised
:D I agree
I assume they could do that + insta charge Teleporter, no skill cooldowns and stuff
what character?
you're top 10% if your name is purple in the list
yeaeh I guess the rank
I haven't been in top 10% much so I forget these things
oh you can see cabbage
he hasn't put in a proper time yet though, you can tell because he's merc
you can also tell because the time is over 3 minutes
3:30 isn't "good" for loader
it's not bad, but it's not competitive either
trying loader atm
I suck at playing her, but got a 2:20 done
I'm unsure if my route isn't optimal or it's all because of not being able to keep the velocity
are you in the top 10%?
I thought it needed to be purple
OH there is a royal cap
I guess that's a way to improv, where is it?
that'd be good for loader
not having to visit every crystal
on huntress (my personal record atm) it shouldn't matter
hm k
can't take preon then tho
that's too much time
I wonder if getting preon with loader is still worth it
wait what
campfire? 

ahh that's what they are called :D
also thats not a campfire at all lmfao
or not
they're jump pads, what they're actually called is a water spout
because thats clearly water, not fire.
just don't get hit pepeLaugh
but also this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhrfqWSiuo&feature=youtu.be
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
i was too lazy to actually fight the lemurians so i waited for preon, but you can also just kill them
i haven't been able to get it but also Im trash so
gl my friend
thanks
@green steeple i mapped out the stages, really roughly but it should work. took me about 40min, it’s all about practice and managing skills
it's the one for clearing a prismatic trial without falling under 100% life
shields count as health
brooch is what you want
shields is health, fuel array blows up at 50% HP
I think you can unlock it in prismatic trials
not sure
check pins
current seed is good for ethereal
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
i was too lazy to actually fight the lemurians so i waited for preon, but you can also just kill them
they’re inaccurate
It'll always be easy to get hit, half the enemies in the game are mobile or shoot at you
Just gotta learn the trial and learn when it's best to use iframes for Ethereal
and go fast
just get half-hit
Thanks now I know what to do
They hit me without consent
After 14+ hours
And 4 seeds
I have accended
18 more achievements to go
Most of which are artifacts
I'm restricting myself from playing with mods until I 100% the game
Still debating on logbooks
I just me or someone, play this prismatic with REX?
Rex is f u n
Honestly thing thats gonna be my last ache I got 10 left and thats the one that just seems so hard for me
This ethereal achievement was pretty easy
I struggled with the last few ones, but this only took about an hour
dam threw my huntress run out of the window, improved by almost 1 second lol, and it wasn't even good
so I guess I'll try to get 14th or something
well that didn't take long
im tryna get ethereal and its so tuff
i did it
anyone have any advice for this prismatic trial? it seems like the perfect seed to get ethereal on but i'm having the hardest time getting the pathing right
@tropic nexus do you need a map? i made one lol
it's pretty easy but preferably you should know animationcancelling to destroy crystals & dodging to.. dodge attacks
i'm pretty new to the game. i only have about 48 hours logged and most of that was spent with engineer and acrid
oh that's fine, you should just practice a lot then, watch cabbage's run for this seed (it's pinned)
oh sweet, thanks
yw
also cabbage seems like a literal god
he's good, yeah
one of the main parts is knowing how to break the crystals without taking dmg
optimal way is to animationcancel m1 into whirlwind, and then finish off with dash
basically you wind up the m1, let it strike twice, and on the beginning of the 3rd, you press m2
the m2 will hit once, then the target will be exposed from the third m1 hitting, then the m2 will hit again
takes some practice but you can do it
does that work for the ult too?
? the ult is a separate thing
you already have iframes in that one, you can use it to finish off crystals but it isn't as reliable imo because it targets one enemy at a time, so if an imp gets in there you'll just hit him instead
yes, i think he finishes off with ult instead of dash
that works too, if you want even shorter cooldowns you can take a few hits at imps while they're swarming you (your m1 hits behind you a pretty long range, too)
i'll give it a shot, thanks my guy!
@balmy edge THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP, I GOT IT AND I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS HYPED ABOUT AN ACHIEVEMENT IN MY LIFE
np
ngl i lost about 5 runs to fall damage
wait are you guys talking about ethereal?
yes
for this trial I followed all of cabbage's route except I got the energy drink on top of the left crate near spawn. I found the extra speed worth it to dodge stuff
i cant manage to get the preon to hit all the imps, i tend to have bad aim
yeah i couldnt get the aim right
i ended uup just using dash
also use your M2 for more mobility bc those imps can catch up to you
too many of the glacials live for that to be easy, and honestly im not very good at the game
this seeds pc ethereal is so perfect
brooch printer on the first stage, along with a fire band and two teddies
next stage gives a ukelele
and the only thing you have to fight is lemurians
+chaos and spite and all the enemies practically kill themselves
Whats the best way to do the merc challenge on this?
aw man I raged because a lemurian just hit the crystal and exploded before I dash 😦
I did it yay to me
@cyan stratus waiting .3.
waiting for 5 hours? 
broke: losing runs to fall damage
woke: losing runs to an imp teleporting in your face right as you use preon
i uh
i got to the end of the second stage and beat the boss
then got hit by 1 fall damage as i was going to tele
then actually did it 45 mins later
no this one is really easy
bit of a delay because lost to a crystal
m1 crit 1taps a crystal with glass on stage 2
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
i only went out of bounds for a bit to group the golems for the gasoline. there's a missile drone too but it doesn't really do anything, would not suggest since it can take aggro
ending made me nervous
#82
wow gg
@indigo snow
is that the strat for today?
for the 3 days.
i tried to complete it yesterday but i didnt manage
oh wait I just realized
look mom I'm on TV
but eh
This seems like one of the easiest console trials I've had
The first boss almost kills itself, and the second is horde of many with preon
It's trickier than first assessed, but not too tricky
you could solve the first stage by buying a bunch of turrets and leeading the boss to them, but it takes time
if you take the time to do that, second boss becomes a blazing imp overlord instead of blazing impgs
so you have to speedrun a bit and defeat the first boss by having them in-fight
I tried leading them into the pit, but they can land in geometry and survive, which is not idewal
I found the easiest clip in the world, you don't even have to dash
- To clip through that section of wall, just walk through it.
- Lemurians will mostly finish each other off, just attack to get aggro and finish off the survivors.
- On stage 2, move around cover to avoid wisp snipes.
- Plan your preon shots very carefully. I walked up on that...
Most fun etheral I've had in a while, short but intense
Please oh gods please I've been stuck on 102/103 achievements for this game trying desperately to beat ethereal wasting upwards of 8 hours every few days for the last few months and I'm kind of starting to lose it.
I love challenges, I do. Why else would I be at 102/103 but for that reason. But I like challenges, things that force you to not just use your monkey brain and bash something harder to win but something that makes you engage with more game mechanics in a fun and interesting way. What I don't like, however, is stuff like this that expect me to have absolute mechanical perfection and an added filter of luck just to screw with results that much more.
I'm broken and desperate and I don't want to waste more of my life to ascend into godhood or breaking the game in some ludicrous and unfun way just to get one achievement. Because I know I'm not the only one who feels like this achievement is problematic at best.
I'm only here because I don't want my frustration to be thrown out into the void anymore, even though I have no idea what to do about this. Maybe it'll call more attention to the achievement and get it changed to be less impossible than it is now so that people like me who adore your game and love to play it casually with friends can actually achieve something cool and kind of hard instead of something that requires absolute perfection.
So just...please, I desperately want something to be done about this.
just wait for a glass trial
I already have glass on my trial
wait, isn't this a glass trial?
mhm
at least the last one I'm fairly sure was a glass trial
In the video you have totally different stuff than mine, so is it the same in some aspects and not in others?
I'm on PS4
Cabbage is on PC. Use the appropriate video
Also I forgot to ping @indigo snow
Alright. But still, I don't want to need to break the game or become literally god at this game to do this. I just wanna have fun..
Siren's call is such a broken map it breaks itself, you can literally just walk through walls
Yeah, but needing to break the game being a necessity for an achievement seems problematic at best.
I still don't see how you're suppose to beat the second map where you have solus probes that are practically impossible to dodge the attacks of
I wouldn't call Ethereal "Mechanical perfection", to get closer to that I'd look at the top times in the leaderboard
It's no coincidence that every top trial runner thinks this challenge is nothing
Wait, solus probes?
Yeah, solus probes
For me it's solus probes on the second map
If you're not visiting the bazaar, you may be moving too slowly
So I just do it quicker and it'll be jellyfish?
Yeah. What's your timer at hitting stage 2?
The only times I've actually been able to go to stage 2 it's been hitting medium. I assume that's the problem
You could also try paying a newt to get a different enemy on stage 2 even if you're slow, but I can't tell you if that path is easier
Yes, that could be it. Cabbage is at about 1 minute
I guess I could try that at least, but I still feel like this challenge needs some serious tweaking. Because needing to know and do all of that to do it successfully only some of the time seems excessive
Especially for, as I said, not a god gamer
Free trials come around occasionally. We had one earlier where both stages were beetles and glass was enabled
Because I'm not good lol
I'm just persistent
I don't remember doing one with command? Maybe I was busy or just forgot that time
Command comes up a lot. Trials rotate every 72 hours
I used hyperbole because I was stressed about using up so much of my free time on this when I don't have much of it recently. Apologies if that confused you at all
I know I'm not the best, far from it. But I don't want my skill to be condescended just because I can't do one of the hardest challenges in this game. It feels wrong to need to commit so much time and thought into this waiting for a 'free trial' that oftentimes I'm just not good enough to accomplish in my shortened timeframes
So at the very least, thank you Zeddy you were very helpful and kind with my problem
I've got a list of people I ping if there's an easy console trial. If you want I could set you up on one for PC if there's a dead easy one coming around again
but really, on PC you could always edit the skill in (and then get the challenge using the skill)
I don't want to cheat, it feels wrong to me, sorry. Even if it's overwhelmingly difficult to me that's just how it is, and I want to be able to do it and hopefully feel accomplished by the end of it. Call it sunk cost fallacy or pride, something like that. So, I would greatly appreciate it if you pinged me if there is one I can more easily complete
No, but I actually think I'm close to doing it now (thanks to some of your advice). Turns out the way I like to play just isn't viable whatsoever in this sort of scenario, so instead of attempting insanity I finally chose to adapt instead of being stubborn.
I'll tell you if I'm successful, but maybe postpone putting me on that ping list?
I did it :D
(but it wasn't very fun)
I started a new run just to try to have fun and cool down and almost got hit and legitimately panicked for a second before realizing I could get hit now
Congrats! Perseverance pulled through!
Looks like I'll only have to cover about three more trials before console peeps can use Cabbage's videos
I wonder if the trials be consistent once 1.0 hits
they might continue to be fragmented, should probably have separate leaderboards at the very least
I have a quick question
So I've been trying to do mercenary challange. But everytime I look at the video the artifacts are different like mine have been stuck on command, chaos, sacrifice, and soul for the past 3 rotations. Is that because I'm on console?
9th Oct 2020 - Mercenary
My gunner drones normally weren't breaking, but... somehow I still managed
They'll have seperate leaderboards, but the trials have been pretty consistent with each other all things considered
Hey guys. I just wanted to say that I have finished the prismatic trials to open the Merc loadout, and this this seed is pretty beginner-friendly
Don't miss out on this one!
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
i only went out of bounds for a bit to group the golems for the gasoline. there's a missile drone too but it doesn't really do anything, would not suggest since it can take aggro
today’s trial is pretty good if you’re going for Mercenary: Ethernal, just watch out for blazing enemies and learn what the chests hold on world 1
i was able to do it so im pretty sure most people can
no glitches used only dodging and use of a missle turret and sentry which both carried
Why can I not access the prismatic trial?
Perhaps you're playing with mods on.
Ror2 doesn't allow prismatic trials to be played while mods are enabled, because it would be too cheap.
I see, kinda thought it would be because of that
Is there an easy way to disable mods?
what mod manager are you using
BepInEx
hm, i can't help with bepin sadly
ask in #ror2-modding and you might get an answer from someone more experienced
Alright thanks.
Had no equipment otherwise, so... Silence Between Two Strikes time!
@tropic badge use r2modman to disable mods.
BepInEx is not a mod manager, its the main mod that everything requires
r2modman is the main trusted mod manager
ah I see, my bad
r2modman will allow you to download mods on the launcher, disable/enable mods, and play vanilla or modded without the need to remove every mod from your directory
how to you unlock prismatic trials
unlocked from start
are you modded
no
in other gamemodes
prismatic trial...
wath is special about it
its the same for everyone on one platform
yes
In regard to the Cabbage route, I had a much easier time clearing stage 1 getting the Armor Piercing Rounds on the right after the jump pad. I stood in that exact spot under the map on that rock face and just slashed at the horde with my M1. APR + Merc's Expose debuff did a pretty good job of clearing them out! Stage 2 was a breeze and I got through it after 3 tries once I locked down the route for Stage 1. I got 95 on the leaderboard with a 2:44.80 (at the time of writing).
i finished the first stage without taking any damage, even though its spawning blazing golems to my mercenary, get to the second level, take 1 point of fall damage
The big chest if you go more fowards has the happiest mask
Yeah its a really amazing prismastic for ethernal
I got carried by the fireworks too haha, and i got the achievement!
This is the first Prismatic trail Ive finished
Blazing golems i swear i gonne track you down for my entire life
@halcyon bay Thanks a lot for the cloacked chest maked it easier for merc 
Congrats!
Hi, umm... does anyone have any tips for the PS4 prismatic trial? I have been attempting the ethereal challenge for awhile and have had no luck

Ok. Thank you!
this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit
That's QUICK
I underestimated how frustrating prismatic trials can get
Should probably find a mod not on vacation
fair point
is it possible to get a good time with rex?
yes
Would it be?
depends on the trial though
I'm ~rank 51 currently
I feel like hunter is really good for this one
but i cant firgure out how Cja2k got his time
might have cheated tbh
thats what i thoguht
its takes me like 35 seconds to finihs the first stage
well plus like 10
I havent even tried this one
getting kinda bored with trials but maybe I will give it a go
I like this one bc of the glass artifact
eh not bad I suppose
what route did you take?
I just grabbed capacitor and cap/ballista'd the bosses
yeah i also got capictor
my first run i got a lot of items then i realized i just needed the capitor
capacitor
so i instant ballista the one off spawn and went straight to the capacitor
i could ss actually if you can join a call for a min or 2
hmm maybe I will ballista off start
cant join call, I cant talk sorry
oh, screen share you mean
I am small brain
yeah lmao
but yeah, its probably fine
yeah
ah im 2 behind you now
pretty good run, now looking at optimizing route again i think
ima try something new
I think we can all agree huntress is the best character, right?
maybe commando could compete?
yeah
melee not lookin so fine though
usually any record more than three or so places ahead of cabbage will be cheated in
any record ahead of cabbage will be cheated in
yeah, xenon, static, not sure if wig does trials anymore
well I got sub 1:23
dont think my current route can go any rather though
must be missing something
