second guillotine
#prismatic-trials
white frost
vagrant yarrow
Gotcha
white frost
I usually run in a big of zig-zag
fierce geyser
oh no I've confused myself
fierce geyser
the important thing is you got the rusty key
white frost
it will heal after 7 seconds
you also didn't get any of the missile drones on the stage, those would help you a lot
white frost
there's one in the area where you start, I forgot where the seecond is but tI pick it up in my video
fierce geyser
just make sure you use evis right away on it
vagrant yarrow
I know of 4, but just forgot to grab them. I don’t often get that far
white frost
there's this big trunk-like thing out by the cliff, I run a circle around it
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Lemme check that out
white frost
you have to practice the whole route, keep going even if you geet hit
I suggest you dash in, eviscerate, dash back out
fierce geyser
thats actually a really good tip Zeddy, I forgot about it
white frost
you're capable of ddoing stage 1 now, so it's important to practice stage 2 until you can no-hit that
once you know the whole run, you can string it together
fierce geyser
if you can dash through him on the way out then you get to use your 3rd dash as well
white frost
yes, you can do the second ddash to get even further away
vagrant yarrow
For sure, thank you! Just spotted the trunk
white frost
cool
also listen to his attacks
you wanna attack just after he's finisheed his big orbs and his barrage
fierce geyser
this makes me wish cabbage streamed his attempts
would be crazy to watch
oh the muscle memory I see it good self control
vagrant yarrow
Wot
fierce geyser
when you get hit
vagrant yarrow
Haha... when I go to quit?
fierce geyser
yeah
vagrant yarrow
Only part of this run I have 100% down haha
fierce geyser
lol
honestly its not lookin too bad, just gonna have to make it all come together now
cyan stratus
i streamed a bit in the past but i prefer just recording
fierce geyser
yeah I can see that
its kinda weird to know people are watching every mistake etc
cyan stratus
well i make plenty of mistakes in my videos anyways but i just like taking small breaks / doing whatever while doing attempts and streaming changes the pace a ton
fierce geyser
yeah
also
what was that rex run
if I didn't know you I'd say it was cheated lol
vagrant yarrow
Nah... it’s not too bad. I was being somewhat careless with jelly boi. I got hit, what, 3 times? None by boss. Wasn’t paying attention to other enemies
white frost
I'm back did he win
the reason why I said to dash in before eviscerate is because eviscerate by itself tends to get hung up on drones and othere enemiees
you almost got it though
did you pick wax quail on purpose? that seems potentially big brain
vagrant yarrow
Hahah... no. It did help a good bit though! Honestly might stick with it. Since I mean.... does guillotine even work on bosses?
white frost
itt does, yes
vagrant yarrow
Dang.... alright!
white frost
if you have 2-3 you'll kill the boss without seeing the nova
also regarding the nova
you hid away, but tI'd recommend eviscerating through it
vagrant yarrow
Ah.. yeah because of the.. yeah. Makes enough sense!
white frost
you got hit
still, keep going
I recommend saving all item pickups until after every enemy is dead
vagrant yarrow
Okay so! That... was a mess start to finish. I should’ve waited on that first guillotine
white frost
yeah, just leave item pickups
you have to assume that anythiung that can hit you while picking items will
vagrant yarrow
I was hoping I could quickly snag it to finish the fight quicker, especially because the area seemed relatively clear, but I forgot that the dpad can’t be used to select items for some reason
white frost
yeah, d-pad got removed from menu controls and is only used on the loadout to pick between the left and right side sadly
vagrant yarrow
That’s... yeah that’s kinda awful that you can’t use it with Command. Would make that go so much quicker
white frost
huh, an equip
you should probably pick preon but be careful not to kill yourself with it
whites should be AP rounds
preon is down once
very quick pick
vagrant yarrow
Ah...
white frost
I saw the impact but I didn't catch your health moving
white frost
hm
if preon drops after so few items you could make your strat around it
that's your call of course
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Huh... that might work. Would require a good bit of luck tho
white frost
it'll always drop on what looks like the 4th item, but 4 items can take anywhere beteween 1-15 minutes
vagrant yarrow
AH! I keep forgetting the drones 😓
white frost
practice not having them I guess
you've been at this a while, if you come back after a break it'll feel a lot easier
white frost
hoff
vagrant yarrow
That was a decent jelly though!
white frost
not a bad jelly
white frost
greedy, but paid off
vagrant yarrow
I can grab stuff before the boss fight no problem!
white frost
I'd personally mix a squid in there, it gives valuable distraction and some damage too
bit late for the squid after the fight starts
so what went wrong there?
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Might not help that I have volume turned off
vagrant yarrow
Lemme fix that....
fierce geyser
theres a lot of subconscious audio clues in ror2 you might not pick up on but your brain still understands
fierce geyser
yeah, they gots sounds for everything man
white frost
the big ones are the gurgling of hermit crabs, the stomping of elder lemurians, and all of the attacks that vagrant does
huh, stage 1 has 3 drones?
FOUR DRONES?
if you just pick up the drones on stage 2 you don't even have to fight the boss
take a squid
fierce geyser
can you just got oob then?
vagrant yarrow
Ahhhh!! I was going to on the 3rd, but it completely slipped my mind by the time I got to the Teleporter!!
white frost
no, you have to be a bit nearby for the drones to engage the boss
fierce geyser
ah too bad
white frost
but there's at least 2 drones, maybe 3 on stage 2
the missiles drones are very powerful
fierce geyser
I just want any excuse to show people some merc oobs
white frost
one should be out here in the field area
another onee is up on the cliffs
you can't afford to miss your dash into the vagrant
but really you could make this fight a lot easier if you pick up more drones
take this time to seaarch the stage for them
the locks will highlight where interactables are
or not with the boss dead
white frost
yeah, but you made a big mistake as welel
wiffing a dash into the underside will get you hit 100% of the time
vagrant yarrow
Yeah that... I knew that one was risky
white frost
I aim for along his sides or the top, and try to time it after he's done his big orb attack
but really pick up more drones on stage 2
vagrant yarrow
Got it. I’ll search a bit next time
white frost
it's why I don't go through that cave, there's at least one drone on top of the cliff, and there's one in the field where you start
fierce geyser
question for you Zeddy
I feel like you could just stay in the air the whole time comboing dash and evis because its the old merc, what is the downside of doing that vs the run and hide thing?
white frost
I don't know if there's a downside, I just have no idea how to do that
I don't feel in control while doing air stuff
white frost
when I run and hide I have an idea where the enemy is and can choose when to do counter attacks
fierce geyser
all the 180 turns and stuff
white frost
yes
fierce geyser
makes sense
white frost
in the normal game I always pick rising thunder, so I can dash downwards into the enemy from above
fierce geyser
is rising thunder better on old merc
because I feel like right now it is kind of useless haha
white frost
it hasn't changed except now it procs bands easily
it does a little more damage but I basically use it the way I would Ion Surge with Arty
fierce geyser
interesting
white frost
also you can uppercut flying enemies into space to get rid of the m for a while or into the ceiling to instantly kill malachite bells
fierce geyser
I've always used whirlwind but I can upper cut being good too I guess
white frost
it gets substantially better with backup mags
also I have no idea how to instagib wandering vagrant without rising thunder
but I heard that move got harder on PC anyway
fierce geyser
can you thunder inside their hitbox?
waxen torrent
also you can get a shit-ton of tonic afflictions and catapult yourself into the sun with it (the range of the slash is affected inversely by attack speed, and thus how high you go)
white frost
no, it's just easier to get up top for the right distance
fierce geyser
but yeah, harder on PC now I think
I haven't really tried because I usually play multiplayer and only host can do it there to my knowledge
white frost
trick doesnt' work at all on console, but I use controller even on PC
vagrant yarrow
Okay so! I know there a way to kill crystals with spin! I’ve done it a few times before!!
fierce geyser
on pc there is a really smooth combo to take out crystals
white frost
it's directly after you eviscerate and there's a few iframes left
fierce geyser
I dunno how to do that on console though
white frost
I don't have the balls to pull that move so I just combo the crystal until it's half health then eviscerate
fierce geyser
in theory you should be able to charge up a combo while running to it, hit it with 3rd swing, eviscerate, then hold m2 so you whirlwind right as you come out of evis
but I don't know if thats actually enough to kill a crystal
on PC we just use the exposed debuff
maybe hold m1 and m2 at the same time actually
when coming out of evis
man this is a wall of text
vagrant yarrow
I’ll..... stick to the safe mode
fierce geyser
sounds good lol
man I'm wishing I had console now
I would get to do the trial twice
double the fun
white frost
I have it on PS4, Switch and PC
vagrant yarrow
Okay! So! More drones!
white frost
there should be one near where you spawn
after you get it, run over the cliff and it should be behind the ship-ish
vagrant yarrow
...
white frost
keep seaerching
find the drones so you know them next time
I didn't notice your controller setup before
isn't dashing with O absolutely awful?
vagrant yarrow
Hm? Nah it’s preferred for me
white frost
It's such a frequent action
good call
I think that's a ddrone next to that blood shrine
vagrant yarrow
So! Got 4 locations
white frost
4 drones?
vagrant yarrow
Mhm!
white frost
with 8 drones you'll steamroll that vagrant
vagrant yarrow
Hah.... but what about actually being able to buy them?
white frost
that's another matter
fierce geyser
crystals give a lot of money
white frost
instead of guillotine, get ghor''s tome
white frost
since the drones are getting the kill, guillotine won't work anyway
vagrant yarrow
Hm.... speaking of destroying crystals, couldn’t I also scrounge even more drones from the first area?
white frost
I doubt there's more than 4
I never found more than 2, so I'm surprised there were more
vagrant yarrow
Hm..... what if I farmed for a radar to double check? I mean, it’d only take a minute
white frost
sure
I really do think that blinding assault binding is holding you back
if you hit mountain shrine, I suspect you'd fight imp overlord instead of crabs
white frost
yeah
you have to stop aiming to press it
I have eviscerate bound to circle, but blinding assault is a much more frequent action
you have to make precise, quick aims between dashes
vagrant yarrow
Ah... so just an R1 or something?
vagrant yarrow
Huh... L2? So is spin your R1?
vagrant yarrow
Huh... alright! I’ll try a different setup for this
white frost
jump is such an important button
it's hard to find aa setup that works with all survivors
my current setup is L2 for jump, R2 for primary, L1 for utility, R1 for secondary
O and triangle for special skill and equip
this setup works okay on all three platforms I play the game on
I really wish there was survivor-specific controls
vagrant yarrow
Same.... my setup is not Mercenary oriented at all
white frost
most equipment don't need precise aiming, so binding it to a shoulder button is a waste
same story for your special
but utility needs precise aim with merc, loader and huntress
how would you even use engineer missiles?
white frost
it'll take a little while to get used to
vagrant yarrow
Circle for missiles is actual hell
white frost
I had to rebind my utility purely for those missiles
white frost
I hate how you need to hold it down while also holding primary, on PC you can just toggle missile mode on and off
no idea why console version made it worse
vagrant yarrow
That.... seems so much simpler. Also! For Artifacter (I know that’s not her name, but cmon.... artificer?) whats her second special? I believe you mentioned using it earlier?
white frost
now that I know there's a preon, I should probably use this trial to unlock chunked
it's an ice spear
very similar to nano-bomb but it freezes and pierces instead of stunning and exploding
also doens't have the tendrils, but it flies faster
in 1.0 update nano-bomb gets changed to have way more damage but be affected by gravity, so the two skills have a bit more identity
vagrant yarrow
Huh... that’s neat! I should snag that
white frost
you can unlock it this trial easily by just racking up guillotines, ap rounds, and using that preon
vagrant yarrow
Also, can’t wait for 1.0 console
white frost
no drones obviously
vagrant yarrow
Huh.... that would work! I guess I’ll take a break and grab that rn
vagrant yarrow
Hah, thanks? I’m not sure I deserve one considering I’ve been at this all day, and still haven’t gotten it. I’ll grab Chunked though
white frost
I've done hardships like this before
if you get some rest and come back to it you'll clear etheral in no time
it's similar to doing excersize, lifting weight
vagrant yarrow
For mercenary....
white frost
keep it, it's a good general setup
vagrant yarrow
I’ll test it here then
white frost
I would recommend disabling toggle for hover now that you have jump on a shoulder button
nice thing about the ice spear btw, is you can execute bells
vagrant yarrow
Also! Do lunars drop more often for prismatic? And oh? Wdym?
white frost
frozen enemies can be executed
you can't normally use snapfreeze on flying enemies however
I dont think lunars drop more often for prismatics, but it can feel that way because you grind kills quickly
vagrant yarrow
Huh... gotcha!
white frost
be mindful of chaos being enabled btw
easy to blow youself up with all your AoE attacks as Arti
white frost
nice
vagrant yarrow
So! How many of each should I go for?
white frost
2 guillotines and 2 AP rounds should be enough
can go for 3 if you wanna be super sure
but you'll also get an extra guillotine after killing the boss here
vagrant yarrow
I.... forgot about Chaos
white frost
haha
vagrant yarrow
Also, accidentally hit that. Still getting used to this setup
L2 as jump is so wack for me
white frost
jumping is just too important
beefore she had a jetpack, constant jump spam was how your survived with arty
vagrant yarrow
Wait, she used to not have a passive?
white frost
I'm not entirely happy with the setup I have either, it could be nice to have jump and dash on opposite sides, as well as primary and secondary
but jump and primary also need opposing sides
yeah, it got introduced in scorched acres
vagrant yarrow
OH
white frost
and people were all "aw that's just a useless gimmick"
vagrant yarrow
IDEA
white frost
and then skills 2.0 gave her infinite flight
vagrant yarrow
Haha.... Infinite? Wdym?
vagrant yarrow
Huh.... really? Never actually used ion
white frost
it changes your playstyle a lot
generally I'll go all plasma skills or all non-plasma skills
fierce geyser
oh ion is great yeah
white frost
the extra blast radius of nano bolts makes it easier to land hits while flying high in the sky
vagrant yarrow
Hm... I haven’t actually tried out any plasma
fierce geyser
same for nano blts
white frost
you losee out on a lot of damagee which you just make up for with shaped glass
fierce geyser
but everyones still hatin on them
vagrant yarrow
Huh.... so it’s more for aoe?
white frost
plus the fire damage is pretty pointless in later loops aside from deathmark, but you have other ways to build deathmark
yes
fire bolts explode in a 2.5m radius area, nano bolts are 4m
this gets buffed to 6m in the 1.0 update
vagrant yarrow
Gotcha. Yeah I only stuck to fire for deathmark
Also! What about down on the dpad for item?
white frost
sure that could work
I feel like you have more options for controrller layouts on switch because it has gyro aim
vagrant yarrow
Wot?
fierce geyser
nvm lol
white frost
I don't know why PS4 version doesn't have gyro aim, it's got a pretty good motion sensor
fierce geyser
just me being braindead
white frost
ohey, you found an artifact code
white frost
it's pretty fun!
turns arti into a totally different survivor
that move you just did is what I call "dipping", where you drop into enemies in order to do more ion surge damage
a lot of people act like ion surge doesn't do any damage at all, so I assume they never pull that move off
vagrant yarrow
I mean 800 isn’t anything to scoff at
white frost
right?
vagrant yarrow
And the aoe is great!
Honestly might hop into drizzle for a sec to mess with this
And maybe grab Chunked
white frost
go for it, man
in 1.0 the aoe is improved for ion surge, which is nuts
or rather, the damage doesn't fall off at the edges
vagrant yarrow
Oh haha... I was about to say.... that’s still pretty good tho!
white frost
shaped glass and transcendence both work pretty well with ion surge
fierce geyser
ah now you're makin me want to play arti Zeddy
vagrant yarrow
So wait, what is transcendence?
white frost
you can also replicate the flight ion surge gives with items
it's a lunar that tuns your health into shields and gives you 50% extra hp
with flight it's easy to avoid damage when you feel like it
fierce geyser
transcendence is also really good on merc as a matter of fact
white frost
so one way to have your cake and eat it is bring flamethrower and achieve flight with strides of heresy
fierce geyser
not for ethereal though haha
vagrant yarrow
Strides?
white frost
ah yes, it's a lunar item you unlock by beating like 30 bosses in a run
strides and visions of heresy
visions gives you a new primary atttack, strides gives you a new utility
vagrant yarrow
What!?
white frost
strides lets you fly like with volcanic egg (you can also use volcanic egg) and you turn invisible and heal
vagrant yarrow
I should have it then....
white frost
check your challenges
vagrant yarrow
Doing rn
white frost
you have it unlocked
it's that chicken leg next to the locked item
you've just never equipped it
strides on artificer is something else, you really have to try it
vagrant yarrow
Ah! This thing?
vagrant yarrow
Huh. I should play without command for a bit... I really need to clear this catalog up
white frost
the only problem is you're commited to the whole duration
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Unlike Dragon?
white frost
two strides is enough to fully refill shields
yeah, dragon you can just press Interact to blow up
fierce geyser
for engi you just pick up every strides, its better if he doesnt exist
only his turrets lol
white frost
haha that's kinda of true
there's some broken-ass strides builds out there because you can still use equipment during it
and passive damage like tesla coil will also work
vagrant yarrow
Wait what!?
white frost
since strides heals you you can also synergize with n'khuanas
to be clear, you're not invincible during strides
fierce geyser
you used to be able to use mul-t saw during strides I think
white frost
but you're invisible, you won't be targeted
vagrant yarrow
I can only imagine a ton of nautilus shells and batteries with missliels
fierce geyser
you can still use it and nailgun during egg though
fierce geyser
yeah its sad
vagrant yarrow
Wait what? How so?
white frost
that's right, you can start nailgun and then egg/strides to be a fighter jet
vagrant yarrow
Isn’t it his 4th?
white frost
the 4th primary yeah
it's just bugged
you can kill all the imp ovelords you want and it just won't unlock
it's a known bug
vagrant yarrow
That.... explains a good bit
fierce geyser
its sad because saw-rebar is probably the best combo on mult
white frost
makes sense
vagrant yarrow
Quick question! What’s this?
fierce geyser
also rebar makes elite wisps go zoom
white frost
I know rebar got buffed in 1.0, but I still miss the old version you could fire during transport mode
brittle crown?
vagrant yarrow
Nope!
white frost
oh that locked item
vagrant yarrow
Mmmhm!
vagrant yarrow
I’ll look it up then. One moment
white frost
isn't it glowing meteorite?
fierce geyser
yes it is
white frost
it's a lunar equip and I don't see glowing meteorite in the other slots
fierce geyser
dont bother with that one haha
white frost
yeah that's just for the lols
although...
flying artificer can use it to good effect
vagrant yarrow
Eh. Seems underwhelming for a Lunar
fierce geyser
doesnt hurt enemies a lot
white frost
tbh it's pretty underewhelming
fierce geyser
but it sure does hurt your teammates
vagrant yarrow
Hah. Wait.... without chaos? Or with?
white frost
it just hits some random enemies a little, but it can proc effects if you hit yourself or a teammate, so you can end up bleeding to death
fierce geyser
thats why its such a troll
white frost
if it was like hellfire where the enemies took 10 times more than you did it'd be good
fierce geyser
yes tincture is actually really good
white frost
tincture is OP as shit tbh
fierce geyser
even better with razorwire
vagrant yarrow
Tincture?
white frost
I see you haven't used it yet
it's a lunar equipment that surround you in fire
you take damage based on your max hp, but it's way stronger when you hit the enemyu
vagrant yarrow
Huh.... cool!
white frost
very good on high-health survivors like acrid, loader and mul-t
it also triggers razorwire constantly
fierce geyser
vagrant yarrow
Hah... I heard something absurd about razorwire though. Something like you need 250+ for it to be effective?
white frost
I wish more items were transparent with range like that
fierce geyser
no just one is broken as
white frost
what no
vagrant yarrow
It was something I saw on stacking....
white frost
one razorwire is amazing, and every extra razorwire increases range and amount of targets
If you have 250 I'm sure it'll cover the entire stage
pretty sure it goes through walls as well
24x stronger on enemies, I forgot how busted that thing was
you like engineer, right?
fierce geyser
I remember a pretty recent pc trial where the fastest way to kill the boss was literally just to sit still and get hit with razorwire
vagrant yarrow
Hah... I think the entire stage thing was what they were talking about... but huh... is razor useful on anything other than high health ones?
And heck yeah!
vagrant yarrow
Oh dear Christ
fierce geyser
now thats alotta damage!
white frost
I would say it's stronger than n'khuana with fungus, and no red items are involved
fierce geyser
imagine playing on drizzle
smh my head
white frost
I have to admit I dropped to drizzle yesterday to unlock grenades on ps4
going for 20 is just too brutal
vagrant yarrow
Ah, bite me. Just doing a run for fun and items. I need a break after my 750th prismatic attempt
white frost
go for it!
fierce geyser
I dropped to drizzle for like every unlock I think lol
white frost
oh
fierce geyser
even after I started playing monsoon
white frost
doesn't sacrifice + swarm work poorly on consoles?
fierce geyser
I have no sense of honor
white frost
on switch version I insisted on never using drizzle
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Maybe so. I was reading the stats and it seemed favorable
white frost
took me 80 attempts to unlocked grenades
vagrant yarrow
Though those were probably for PC
white frost
yes
it was released with poor interaction, then later fixed
but fix never made it to consoles
white frost
swarms will also bug out if you get beetle queens with mountain shrine
vagrant yarrow
Oh? How so, Zed?
fierce geyser
wait no I though he was gone
vagrant yarrow
Hah. From my console
fierce geyser
I've been bamboozled
white frost
basically it stops spawning doubles
for the rest of the run
it seems to happen whenever you fight beetle queens for some reason
fierce geyser
kin is generally easier, but it depends on what you roll
also great for some achievements, and usually a godsend in most trials
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Yeah I was debating using it for the hermit crab one... but that’d be 100% luck
fierce geyser
yeah not worth is for sure
white frost
I think hermit crabs can't spawn in stage 1 even with kin enabled
fierce geyser
no they cant, so It would be really annoying haha
white frost
hermit crabs are normally in the stage 1 spawning pool, but are removed if it's stage 1 specifically
I always get crabs by waiting for a trial with titanic plains as stage 2
white frost
yeah, I did that on both PC and switch. Didn't bother unlocked it for PS4 yet
Gesture is disgusting OP so I don't like picking it up in general
the second you do it you stop being whatever character you play and just become your equipment
vagrant yarrow
Gesture....?
white frost
yeah that's the reward for chasing crabs
half equipment cooldown, but it fires constantly
fierce geyser
I think swarms would be helpful for that one
assuming it doesn't randomly stop working of course haha
white frost
that latter part is supposed to be a drawback, but it's really not
fierce geyser
yeah the auto is great
I cant use royal capacitor without it
vagrant yarrow
I was no longer an Arti.... but just a floating ball with a missile launcher on me
white frost
exactly
white frost
vengeance? Whenever I run these days I always enable it
I like running vengeance, spite and soul
there's one more I usually enable, can't recall
fierce geyser
what a madlad
vagrant yarrow
Soul?
fierce geyser
nobody likes running soul
white frost
soul is enabled in console trials, it spawns a wisp from kills
nobody sounds like a smart guy, then
fierce geyser
yeah hes 900 IQ
white frost
soul is pure benefit once you get a few on-kill effects
vagrant yarrow
Oh! That one. I mean yeah... do they always have no health?
white frost
nearly doubles the effect from will-o-the-wisp, daggers, etc
they have the same stats as a basic wisp I think
they never spawn as elites or anything either
white frost
yeah but double daggers though
also extremely handy with mercenary because you get more stuff to dash through
fierce geyser
double daggers is sweet yeah
vagrant yarrow
Hah... I getcha. Also!! What.... does the X mean on an artifact?
white frost
that means you vote against it
fierce geyser
only works in multiplayer
white frost
doesn't mean much when you're solo
vagrant yarrow
Ohhhhh... gotcha
fierce geyser
I think it means the host has disabled the option to vote for it actually
but dont quote me on that
whoa
the wisps shooting looks so weird
I have played on the lowest graphics settings for too long
white frost
it's a lot easier to see the telegraph like that
fierce geyser
which way?
white frost
switch looks even more potato, and as a result is' easier to see things there
fierce geyser
oh with settings down yeah
white frost
you can instantly spot teleporter flies across the map
fierce geyser
thats why I play like that
the texture resolution really has no preformance impact
white frost
not as long as you have gpu memory for it, no
fierce geyser
also I almost like how it looks better
but maybe thats just a coping mechanism
fierce geyser
wait you can only have 4 at a time on console?
vagrant yarrow
Apparently...
white frost
4 what?
vagrant yarrow
Drones from Backup
fierce geyser
hmm on PC you can stack as much as you want
white frost
you're spending a lot of time farming stage 1, would've never occured to me to do such a thing
spawns are increased on later levels, and void fields would freeze the timer
vagrant yarrow
Nah, just that one guaranteed one.
And I don’t think you can farm fields haha... I mean I guess 1 each level
white frost
why not? you have sacrificee
vagrant yarrow
Ah... well I guess if I sat outside of the thing....
white frost
all you need is a bit of heal
vagrant yarrow
I would need a reliable source of healing though.
Yeah.... and since it’s not command, that’d be up to luck
white frost
just any source should do it
you have the passive regen boost from drizzle and two repulsion plates so you take basically no damage
I dunno, this playstyle seeems foreign
vagrant yarrow
Hahah... to clarify, I went down there for good luck, not for any practical reason. And yeah... I... just got the game less than a week ago
white frost
ohey you found chicken legs
fierce geyser
vagrant yarrow
What’s the catch?
white frost
but you get withdrawals and can get permanently reduced stats
white frost
if you have gesture and 3 fuel cells you can get permanent uptime and never suffer drawbacks
vagrant yarrow
I... don’t have gesture. What’s this?
white frost
I wouldn't recommend it for you right now, it's good for either short runs or if you have gesturee
that's effigy of grief
it gets a huge buff in 1.0, currently not that great
it creates a debuff field where you stand
you also get debuffed
vagrant yarrow
Ah.... will it bone me if I grab it?
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Nice nice!
white frost
the big issue with it is you have to pick it up aggain when you're done
white frost
there's an exploit with it to get irradiant pearl easily if you have artifact of enigma
plucky oyster
Does anybody have the I fell down cat meme?
white frost
it gets fixed in 1.0 so you should grab it while it's hot
vagrant yarrow
How do I get the pearl?
white frost
right so artifact of enigma cycles between items
every time you use an equip, you get a new one
effigy of grief however gets dropped
so what you do is use equipment until you get a lunar equip, then put it in the cleansing pool
that removes your equip, but you just pick up effigy of grief and use it, getting you a new equip
keep cycling until lunar item
this can guarantee you an irradiant pearl from a cleaning pool
vagrant yarrow
Oh? Nice!
white frost
I should probably do it on PS4 before it disappeaers
vagrant yarrow
But wait... cleansing pool?
Alright! I gotta dip! Getting dragged into a raid. Ping or dm me if you need anything, or have any other advice!
white frost
good luck next time!
white frost
K I unlocked chunked first try
5 gulllotines, 2 ap rounds, a crowbar
Activate preon, then start charging Nanobomb a second later
I hit Mountain shrine on stage 1 to get an extra green
edgy hearth
I just did like 7 crowbars and AP rounds, maybe bands, and royal capacitored the boss
It was easy, just took actively building for it
white frost
y'know, crowbars and capacitors is probably quicker
I will keep this in mind for future trials
after 3 crowbars, capacitor will win out over the same amount of preon with ap rounds
tough belfry
a bit late but for destroying the crystals on old merc you just hold basic attack while doing the eviscerate whirlwind
or you do eviscerate whirlwind then dash through the crystal getting an extra dash
or you do eviscerate whirlwind then 3x m1 outside the range of the crystals
also if you're trying to one shot a boss then 3 crowbars then alternate APR and crowbar is best
white frost
maybe I'm checking it wrong, but seems like a fourth crowbar is still stronger than APR after 3 crowbars
it's 50% per crowbar, right?
white frost
you're right, I was doing my math wrong
sacred kestrel
Darn... The latest seed is not good at all for merc... ._.
sacred kestrel
The artifacts are not good for the run i need to make as merc.
sacred kestrel
Command means nothing if you get bashed the first few minutes. XD
vagrant yarrow
Gonna put a few more runs in, Zed. I’ll keep you posted on how that goes
vagrant yarrow
Boss is still taking too long... I even had preon. I had 5 drones that time, but they weren’t doing anything.
vagrant yarrow
Yeah.... got to boss once again. 5 drones once more. They’re just not keeping his health down for whatever reason
low saddle
How do you unlock slicing winds???
vagrant yarrow
It’s unlocked via the ‘Etheral’ challenge, which requires you to complete a prismatic trial as mercenary without taking health or shield damage
low saddle
Yeah but what are some strats to do that?
rapid venture
its not possible for non merc mains right now due to the dissonance/honor combo at the moment
stage one is exclusively ranged enemies with clay templar and alloy units
so you get sniped constantly
vagrant yarrow
I’ve been told that the console roll currently is one of the best as of late
rapid venture
honestly i tried doing it for like 15 minutes today since there was command but its not enough
on pc*
low saddle
Is the seed generation different for each console/method of play?
vagrant yarrow
Hm. Not quite sure. The one I heard it was great on is PS4 though
solemn fiber
only difference is PC and Console
console is all the same whilst pc is different because we're on different updates
vagrant yarrow
Ah, with 1.0, that makes sense, thanks mate.
cyan stratus
it's actually really easy this trial since you can just grab 2 glass and steamroll
you probably won't get an easier one for a while
supple flare
really struggling on this mercenary ach on this trail seed
vagrant yarrow
For PC or console?
supple flare
PC, its the blazing solus prope that just creeps around the corner
end up having to end the run at only 15 seconds in every time
vagrant yarrow
Damn... good luck mate. I imagine cabbage would be able to provide you with a tip or two
cyan stratus
get glass, pretend the probe is a crystal and just kill it
supple flare
done
zenith plinth
does taking a shaped glass count as damage for the purpose of mercenary ethereal
tawdry copper
no
zenith plinth
cool ty
white frost
You should be able to have at least 6 drones
I also got recommended royal capacitor and crowbars yesterday, try that out for size
vagrant yarrow
Royal capacitor?
white frost
Yeah
It only y hi except 3000% instead of 4000%, but since you can guarantee hitting once it synergies better with crowbar's 50% bonus
After 3 crowbars you can go half-and-half on crowbar and ap
I don't get it though. I unlocked chunked yesterday as Artificer with no drones
5 gulllotines, 2 ap rounds, a crowbar
Like so
I added 1200% from Nanobomb as well, didn't buy any drones
vagrant yarrow
Huh... gotcha gotcha
white frost
I got the 5th gulllotine by doing mountain shrine and fighting imp overlord, that's not exactly an option for Ethereal
Another option is to get a fuel cell as one of your greens to strike with capacitor a second time
Or preon for that matter
In that case I'd go all in on ap rounds instead of crowbars
Anyway, sirens call has at least 2 drones, so you can go into the fight with at least 6
vagrant yarrow
Yeah.... that’s the thing though! I had 5, and they just... didn’t attack the boss. At all. I was right next to the boss the entire time. I just don’t get it
white frost
Did they attack other enemies?
If the drones aren't being reliable I guess I wouldn't worry about it, and go all in on boosting your preon
Alternate guillotines and fuel cells
2 should be enough, 3 should be definitely enough
vagrant yarrow
Fair enough. I’ll check that out. That would require me to stay alive for quite a bit though.
white frost
Yes
Make one of your whites a topaz brooch
That way you'll get full barrier first time you fire preon
Another thing to ponder is that stage 1 is abyssal depths and there's a guaranteed legendary chest for 500 gold
That takes a long-ass time to farm for, tho
I would probably pick dagger
vagrant yarrow
Oh? I mean yeah that might help. I’ll put a few more runs in tonight, and see how farming goes. The only thing I’m a bit worried about is the difficulty meter. I don’t want to farm for like 20 minutes on stage one just to get blasted as soon as I get to Siren’s
white frost
no, don't worry about that
on stage 1 and 2, you outscale the enemy oveer time
however you wanna worry a bit about the stage 1 boss, which will eventually become an imp overlord at probably 6-8 minutes
this can be countered by starting the teleporter boss and simply leaving a crab alive
faster to farm that way anyway
vagrant yarrow
Huh... alright!
white frost
there are past console trials I did by having turrets AFK farm for me
even if I didn't get as many items as I was after, you still become so insanely overpowered it doeesn't matter
karmic cliff
for mercs special unlock does taking fall damage and damage from destorying the crystals count against it?
white frost
Yes
You can avoid the second one by destroying crystals with either blinding assault or eviscerate
3rd hit of your combo also reaches far enough to hit from outside the crystal radius
karmic cliff
thank you for the info ❤️
vestal inlet
maiden dew
Can I use the mod manager on the thunderstore to disable my mods to give me access to prismatic trials?
I guess everyone’s asleep, if you can answer me pls @ me thank you
zenith plinth
@maiden dew better to delete manually installed mods and reinstall w r2modman anyway, idk if manually installed will show up in the modman menu
waxen torrent
@maiden dew the updated mod manager cannot detect manually installed mods. and so, you can't disable them through that
so you have to manually disable those mods
maiden dew
@waxen torrent so if I do install mod manager would I have to go through the normal process of installing all the mods again? or can I like move the .dll files away and back in
celest verge
i think you have to install them again but its much easier as you just find the mod and press a button
and you can also search for specific mods
honest mantle
Does transcendence break mercenerys ethernal challenge?
or can i safely pick it up
and then when i loose shield does the challenge end?
any lunars you would reccoment apart from glass?
cloud vortex
my first time running prismatrials is everything seeded completley like when the shrines of chance drop?
and is there any way to view the entire leaderboard and not just where i placed
fierce geyser
no way to view the whole leaderboard afaik
yes, everything is seeded
but what "seeded" actually ends up meaning can end up varying a bit
cyan stratus
you can view the entire leaderboard by starting with a 5 hour run and then improving it in increments of 10 seconds, taking screenshots of every change and then piecing them together
fierce geyser
suspiciously specific
cyan stratus
cyan stratus
was a while ago
zenith plinth
On this one? How da fuck
fierce geyser
well on pc its not too bad: 3 shaped glass
supple flare
yeah 2 shaped glass, focus crystal, armor piercing rounds, Kjaro and Runalds band, and a ukulele
fierce geyser
my best final placement yet! kinda sad it ended up being with huntress though
anyway 10 min hype time lads
Heres PC
zenith plinth
nice
fierce geyser
oh cabbage you get a freebie this week me thinks
only real issue is stage 2
maybe newt can fix the issue
main lake
fierce geyser
man this is gonna be so fun to speedrun too
I love it
indigo snow
fierce geyser
How it looking on console Zeddy?
white frost
Not great
Stage 1 is free
If you buy a gunner turret near the boss and just leave, the turret will kill the boss for you
Because you left, enemies won't spawn around the boss, so the turret can focus on the boss completely
There's a couple of gunner drones as well, a healing drone, and another turret
Stage 2 has nothing
The boss is blazing dunestrider
fierce geyser
The boss is blazing dunestrider
ohno
white frost
If I could find a way to lure it into the pit I'd be good, but I wasn't able to
fierce geyser
wow that sounds like a horrible stage 2
cyan stratus
which map
fierce geyser
can you lure it to a gunner turret or something like that maybe?
white frost
Maybe
The turrets I'd bring from stage 1 would spawn on the other end of the map, but I could try luring him there
But I have a feeling blazing dunestrider will just destroy both turrets
fierce geyser
can you skip the big succ with guillotines?
cyan stratus
you can use both pits
white frost
Probably. I'm not really worried about that attack in particular
fierce geyser
yeah just in general dunestriders hurt
white frost
I'm worried about getting in hits to a big bastard that does contact damage
Also all of the blast radius
I'll see how much I have to farm stage 1 to get an equip
fierce geyser
oob maybe?
and skip the succ with guillotines?
I'm just saying whatever comes to my head at this point
white frost
If there's a good wall clip in the corner of titanic plains I could maybe AFK farm
fierce geyser
oh afk farm yeah
white frost
If I were to commit to farming to I'd go for a oneshot with capacitor
fierce geyser
well there are wall clips everywhere in titanic plains
not so much in aqueduct though from my experience
cyan stratus
dunestrider strat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5A-0P2vCtQ
white frost
If I can pull of the wall clip Cabbage does that's a good farm spot
white frost
Ohhh
That dunestrider luring strat
Daring, but looks like it'd work
That's around where my turrets would spawn, too. Their knockback might do the job for me
fierce geyser
I had no idea the dunestriders would even walk off by themselves
good to know I guess
white frost
I've pulled it off in scorched acres
That's the easiest place to lure off striders and imp overlords
Imp overlord is particularly easy since you can have him teleport wherever you want
It half died from one turret
If I just buy both turrets I think that'll kill him
Chaos is working against me. Instead of trying to get me in the pit, he's infighting
I think it's fine to just fight him normally though. I can't seem to take contact damage even if I try
onyx glacier
So, what's the easiest way to get the achievement for Mercenary where you have to do Prismatic Trials without going below 100% health?
bitter moth
Legitimately, wait for a suitable PT with an artifact like Glass
Not legitimately, edit your file
onyx glacier
I mean, I can wait to do it legitimately. It took me like 300 hours overall to get Rolling Thunder and an additional 100 to get Incorruptible. So. Patience is easy.
white frost
I gave incorruptible a good 80 tries on the switch version
on pc I just did command drizzle and it was a chore
command wasn't really necessary
if you do it on at least rainstorm without artifact, it's a much harder challenge than ethereal
a half-decent trial will take about an hour of attempts, but even if you succeed incorruptible the first time around it's gonna be like 90 minutes and be absolutely terrifying almost the whole way through because anything can kill you in a split second
white frost
I can't pull this clip off either
I don't know if it's harder on ps4 or I'm just doing it wrong
pallid crystal
Ik but its kind of hard with chaos and soul
And no lunar items
I'll try
Next seed bcs this one has a blazing clay thing
white frost
I'm trying to find a cheese way to deal with that dunestrider
you can get lunar items, just pay the shrine of newt
stage 1 is free, just buy the turret nearby and run away, turret will kill the boss for you
if you then head into the lunar shop you can just buy a bunch of glass
maybe I'll just tmake that my video for once
pallid crystal
I'll try thanks
white frost
aqueduct
I haven't been able to lure it into the pit, and I think it's because chaos keeps distracting it
pallid crystal
If i pick the lunar that gives the projectile primary and 3 sharped glasses could i maybe kill the strider from far away?
white frost
visions of heresy sounds like it could work
yeah getting strider to fall off on acrees is easy enough
I think I'd personally just go for anothere glass instead of visions, I also don't know if all 4 items will be items as opposed to equipment
pallid crystal
A blazing stone golem appeared
Instead of the dune
I think one of my visions auto targeted me or something similar
pallid crystal
Im trying the visions one more time
elfin plinth
white frost
I honestly don't think visions is a good idea to begin with, better to just add another glass
probably enough tto kill him in one eviscerate
pallid crystal
I was doing great with visions and topaz but got extremely unlucky
I'll try with four glasses
Okay 3 topaz ,an ukelele , an old guillotine and the 4 glasses
This has to be it
F*** this challenge
white frost
haha
pallid crystal
Okay good rng again
I swear if i get hit by some stupid shit again
Finally
I finally did it
white frost
nice
zenith plinth
Welp, i guess it's some nice trial for Mercenary this time
Gonna fap this trial to the last
white frost
Spawn rate is pretty miserable. Nearly 9 minutes in and only 2 drops
Ps4 can only record 15 minutes
Hm
Dunestrider succs at 1/3 health. Do I need 2 or 3 gulllotines to skip that?
tough belfry
isn't it 1/4
tough belfry
if wiki is right you need 3
zenith plinth
I found a wall clip!
@white frost where? How? Tell me
white frost
Right so
It's at the edge corner
Maybe it's faster I just snap a picture
Roughly that spot
If you go there, you'll find a weird wrinkle in the wall
Sprint into it and dash more or less downwards, I csn do it about half the time
Behind the wall there's plenty of walkable area
To the right is a turret, so you can buy that turret and then go do whatever for 15 minutes, then come back to plenty of drops and probably like levle 8
I'm in a bit of a pickle because I can only record 15 minutes of game, so I can't really exploit that farming spot for all its worth
cloud vortex
hell yeah plant gang
white frost
Okay there's no way I tool 302 non-barrier damage that run
And not an overloading enemy in sight
Maybe fire also counts through barrier?
fierce geyser
all elite affects counting would be consistent I guess
but I only ever heard about overloading
white frost
I think statistically speaking, I'm picking the wrong items
On average a tri-tip dagger would add 36% damage to my 100% attacks
calm badge
how are you supposed to do this trial w/o getting hit
i just die to literally everything lmao
fierce geyser
PC or console?
calm badge
PC, so the glass/sacrifice/soul/kin lemurian only stage 1
fierce geyser
oh PC is omega-easy this week
check out cabbage's video in the pinned messages
calm badge
aight
fierce geyser
also if you use a newt altar stage one to go to bazaar, then stage 2 will have beetles instead of lemurians, so its even easier
but mostly just focus on the wisps
fierce geyser
if you go your right as you spawn there is an altar behind the pillar there if you want beebles
otherwise just follow cabbage and you should be good
calm badge
kk
white frost
I had the perfect damn setup with two squids, two guillotines, and two tri-tip
Then I blow myself up on a crystal because I'm a fool
cyan stratus
you can use iframe to not get hit from crystal
fierce geyser
I got console and was testing the 3rd strike -> evis -> m2 combo that PC uses on there
and it seems like it still works reliably, even before merc changes
on stage 1 of course, after that you overlevel the crystals etc
calm badge
btw for this trial full ez mode is blue portal - > grab the purity that's in there - > beetle stage 2
fierce geyser
gg Zeddy
how did you end up killing that dunestrider?
white frost
tri-tips
dash-eviscerate, dash away
between that and squids he dies in 2-3 cycles
I also brought gunner drones to take the heat from wisps, but I only buy those once stage 1 is finished
I finished too many runs with like 7 freaking damage
fierce geyser
oof
imagine actually fighting a boss in ethereal
could not be me
white frost
he didn't really attack me, squids got all the aggro
fierce geyser
2-3 cycles doesnt sound that bad though, yeah
white frost
all I had to do was run a little circle and hit him between attacks
the pain point was getting that far
fierce geyser
yeah
did you have to go oob and grind every time?
white frost
in order to get two squids and also two guillotines, I hit mountain shrine on level 1
yes, for like 8 minutes
it sucked
fierce geyser
oh, thats no fun haha
white frost
and sometimes my turret twould hit me
and sometimes being OOB will hide a wisp that just snipes you in the butt once you exitt
one time I was half the goddamn map away and my turret decided to just shoot me
fierce geyser
turret carry
white frost
one time I was standing on the pillar watching my turret kill the boss
and the boss summoned his stupid stone thing
did you know the stupid stone things aree homing?
today I learned
homing and extremely long range if he feels like it
fierce geyser
just like your turret apparently lol
white frost
it sucked through and through, but technically speaking it shouldn't require much skill
it's very luck-based, and also you have to follow the route I take early, I run under a bunch of cover because the first minutet spawns like 15 wisps
fierce geyser
just some luck yeah
those are the least fun to do though
no sense of progress
calm badge
aight finally did the pc one
white frost
luck and a runtime of like 15 minutes. I hate these
fierce geyser
gg socks
you picked a really good week to do it haha
calm badge
you can grab a purity and metorite from the shop and then just AFK in the air while it destroys all the stage 2 beetles
so was just a matter of getting to stage 2 tp and figuring that out
white frost
but I think it's easier to just actually do etheral? I had constraints because of the damage number thing I couldn't pick up brooch, and I had to cut the grind short to keep the run within 15 minutes
calm badge
is the console one super hard?
white frost
it depends how you define setting up an AFK grind and waiting 20 minutes
and also hoping a fire beetle didn't waltz over your turret
calm badge
yikes whats the setup?
white frost
buy a turret, clip into a wall
calm badge
well like artis/stage/etc
white frost
I think there's a place you can stand so fire beetles just ignore your turret
stages, spawn location, and tele location is the same on console and pc
first boss is just stone titan, second is blazing dunestrider
calm badge
yea we have kin on so its lemurians and beetles here lmao
well actually its lemurians and then lemurians if you dont take blue and cheese it
white frost
I think you guys have freaking glass, too
white frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq3fswv6r9o share in my misery
calm badge
the wisps make it annoying since you have to stay so far away as a melee char
fierce geyser
soul is a bit annoying, but everything else is perfect artifacts
white frost
What's Shy called this week?
calm badge
btw console has 1.0 right
white frost
I wouldn't need to to these videos if it did
fresh tendon
@calm badge nope
calm badge
oof so no buffed tri tip or anything yea
white frost
I don't think buffed tri-tip would make much of a difference tbh
calm badge
I mean yea but thats just the thing that came to the top of my head with the 1.0 update lol
white frost
Shy is sleeping, ill ping them some other time
Forgive Me please could probably do some cool stuff
Gain some barrier without combat
calm badge
I liked that item until I realized that you can only have 3 of them out at once
white frost
I wouldn't mind if it just worked like Engie turrets and had your oldest disappear
Though I get why the current implementation is there. In theory you could get so many gestures it'd just never really activate
calm badge
that was i think in this most recent patch tho since iirc someone crashed the game by spamming like 100000 of them with gesture/catalyst/cell combo
(which is still possible btw, just use metorite instead)
anyway to get back on topic that trial looks painful on console yea
white frost
@vagrant yarrow Its possible you'll want to try this trial. Grinding seemed to be your style
Read the description though, I wouldn't recommend straight up copying the video
vagrant yarrow
For sure! As long as I don’t get vagrant this time, I think I’ll be okay!
white frost
There's a nearly AFK-farming spot on stage 1, and you csn beat the stage 1 boss by simply buying a turret and escaping, the turret will win the 1-v-1 against stone titan 100% of the time