how would it not help
#prismatic-trials
rotund sierra
it doesnt block bleed, poison or fire
delicate grove
or just get a single bear and then get hit by a fire attack
jaunty olive
Not that, I meant with ethereal
If you get hit and it gets blocked, is the challenge still active?
delicate grove
idk i think the current trial has a bear somewhere though
humble rapids
bears can block individual ticks
mighty lion
Trying to get the ethereal achievement for mercenary, anyone got a good build from this run?
azure schooner
there's a guide for every trial
tough belfry
mighty lion
you saints
raw oar
Are you on PC @mighty lion?
@jaunty olive Topaz still works for ethereal runs because the challenge is to not drop below 100% HP. Topaz's additional health/shield counts as more than 100% HP, so any damage it tanks that doesn't drop you under 100% keeps the run alive.
humble mist
I might just have to try that out than haha 
rustic quail
the primatic trail is by default with glass
fleet oar
Wait it's with glass by default?
delicate grove
always has been
delicate grove
ignore me i was memeing
lucid bobcat
frail perch
lol do those work effectively in conjunction?
shut willow
is the strongest equipment without any setup, crown works incredibly good on commando
grand oxide
can you still get infinite spinal tonic with 
fleet oar
I hate items that even have the possibility of making you lose money
shut willow
1st it requires 1 gesture and 4 fuels, 2nd ewww
grand oxide
mul-t go brrrrrrrrrrrr
grand oxide
kinda?
fleet oar
Not to say that I dislike Commando or anything, I just prefer Mul-T!
grand oxide
hes more in your face than commando
silent birch
3 fuels @shut willow
fleet oar
2 equipments go BRRRRRR
grand oxide
his on hit is super good
silent birch
2 fuels has 1-2s cd iirc
grand oxide
impending doom
shut willow
lol, survivors are different, only with saw mult can beat commando in procs, commando also have more abilitys to dodge stuff
grand oxide
yah, id like mul-t more if they buffed his other skills because the only thing that i feel is worth carrying is either double nailgun or nailgun saw
azure schooner
also his range is amazing
grand oxide
mul-t?
azure schooner
commando
grand oxide
i was gonna say
grand oxide
rebar puncher still not as ggood as it should be
shut willow
its good
azure schooner
it's okay
shut willow
it works as a back-up tool
grand oxide
it cant proc reliably because it takes 20 minutes to shoot again
shut willow
and its insanely good in AAO
Cus its not your main source of damage
nail-gun and saw works great in this regard
grand oxide
yah but i like switching only equipment because if i need my other one i dont want a sniper in my hand if im 5 feet away from boss
shut willow
rebar is when you need to run away while also shooting monsters since it can be charged while running
its insanely good in AAO cus you can hold your shot and be prepared for anything
azure schooner
you could also make a fun sniper build by stacking crowbars, guillotines and atgs
grand oxide
i only like it for wisps
fleet oar
Double nail-gun is the way to go for me
grand oxide
same
fleet oar
Also I wish Engineer had a different primary because that charging one feels too "static"
I do love Engi tho because he hella reminds me of Engi from tf2
grand oxide
i used to run saw nail gun but i don't think its worth the risk of getting next to a boss and since the his shift doesnt go through all enemies you can get trapped easily
yah engi's primary not that great but its got alot of aoe
jaunty olive
Razorwire + Rex = 
azure schooner
saw is good early game but then later on it becomes more and more risky
shut willow
literally the only thing that can beat commando in procing items
grand oxide
i dont know how you'd be able to implement a new primary for engi because if they just gave him like a commando gun or something it would ffeel to similar
fleet oar
Maybe a simple shotgun-like primary
grand oxide
and ive heard someone talk about a missle primary but we already god thermal harpoons
azure schooner
maybe a laser or something
grand oxide
i would frickin love a shotgun primary
fleet oar
That could definitely work as a good solution for people who don't want to charge their primaries
grand oxide
that shit would keep me glued to my computer
shut willow
just give him lazers what his mobile turrets have, it would fit to his playstile
tardy geode
@shut willow are you talking about the saw?
shut willow
yes
tardy geode
Saw is super shit wdym
jaunty olive
Mobile turrets, but why?
shut willow
its not
shut willow
and?
fleet oar
Question is: should it have infinite ammo like Commando's primary but slower firing speed (obviously), or have like 6 ammo that recharge over time? (Kinda like that lunar item that replaces your primary or like artificer's)
grand oxide
thats why i dont use them
jaunty olive
Send a clip of it kicking ass
tardy geode
and...melee is trash when you have ranged options
grand oxide
yes
tardy geode
the only person who wants to be melee is merc lol
shut willow
1000% dps works fine for me
tardy geode
okay then play artificer
grand oxide
the problem isnt with the saw
tardy geode
and use flamethrower
shut willow
if you die a lot with it, its your issue
grand oxide
its that he doesnt have a way to reliably escape a bad situatuion
tardy geode
lol.
fleet oar
Also King how do you play Engi? Cuz I really wanna get into him
tardy geode
Imagine being this ignorant. Saw bad and so are you my dude
grand oxide
i run harpoons stationary turrets and spider mines
tardy geode
DPS doesn't mean anything when elder lemarian pukes all over you and kills you because you are melee with low mobility
shut willow
looks like your issue
tardy geode
there's a reason why nobody uses saw
fleet oar
What if I still have to unlock those 2 alternatives, how can I play him with default stuff?
tardy geode
@fleet oar you can just choose what loadout you want, you aren't forced to use the alts
grand oxide
its called turteling i believe
tardy geode
It's not "my issue" it's the saw's issue for being bad
fleet oar
I still didn't unlock them tho
tardy geode
you're the only one who seems to think saw is best lol.
grand oxide
its when you place down turrets in a small area and then bubble shield and surround it with mines
its the default playstyle
shut willow
if you rly saying that "x" item is bad because you cant use it, its definetly your issue
azure schooner
it's boring
tardy geode
The saw being bad isn't a me exclusive opinion, it's a large majority opinion.
And that's for a reason
jaunty olive
Is it?
grand oxide
mul-t wasnt built for melee. you need skills to complement eachother
shut willow
and majority thinks is bad and what?
tardy geode
But leave it up to anime profile picture to go counter culture and call everyone who follows that to just be bad and uneducated lol
shut willow
theres lotta idiots
grand oxide
transport mmode or whatever its called gets stuck on big enemies
i dont think saw is bad
tardy geode
It's bad compared to the alternatives. It's not just "lol saw bad" it's "why take saw when you could take <x>"
grand oxide
and by no means is it worse than theother ones
tardy geode
It is though lol
azure schooner
saw is okay, scrap launcher is garbage
tardy geode
"okay" means bad
fleet oar
its when you place down turrets in a small area and then bubble shield and surround it with mines
@grand oxide
Pretty nice
shut willow
other options would even compare to saw in tearms of dmg and procing items
azure schooner
pretty sure this dude is trolling tho
shut willow
So pls, stop spraying nonsense
grand oxide
yah turtling funny but boring
tardy geode
@shut willow other options also allow you to be at range. The game isn't just hurr durr muh dps
grand oxide
the meta builds are double nailgun and nailgun saw
jaunty olive
Do saws work well against 
?
grand oxide
probs not
tardy geode
sounds like a great way to get pounded by his melee attack
shut willow
you kill monsters -> they die -> kill monsters that fast so they cant do anything
also it can be used while sprinting
tardy geode
-> you die from elder lemarian one shot because you're melee
fleet oar
Mul-T also has a long range beam attack
shut willow
just take 1 stun granade or circle him
fleet oar
I used it once
grand oxide
True no tank is gonna survive an elite
either
fleet oar
With Commando or Mercenary or Loader you ARE the stun grenade
grand oxide
Yes but horrible close range
jaunty olive
But DAMAGE
tardy geode
@shut willow you're literally explaining why the saw is bad and you don't realize it. Other survivors can play keep away or dodge or go invuln better than mul-t can. Mul-t also has high cooldowns. Therefor, saw is bad. Why use saw when you could just play merc or loader
grand oxide
Yes but no escape if stuff turns sour
jaunty olive
Kill them before they can kill you and whatnot
shut willow
and other survivors wont have same dps and proc chanse
tardy geode
when your justification is "just stun and move" that explains why saw is bad
their dps is probably higher because they don't have to spend so much time avoiding because their kits do it better naturally lmao
shut willow
nah, its already your issue
fleet oar
@shut willow you're literally explaining why the saw is bad and you don't realize it. Other survivors can play keep away or dodge or go invuln better than mul-t can. Mul-t also has high cooldowns. Therefor, saw is bad. Why use saw when you could just play merc or loader
@tardy geode
Because 2 equipments and nail-guns go BRRRERRE
grand oxide
It’s not all about max dps and max proc. If you can’t get outta dodge quickly than you just die
shut willow
because merc and loader wont beat saw dps?
grand oxide
Because they have reliable getaway options
tardy geode
they literally will beat saw dps
because their kits are better suited for melee
also, can't dps when you're dead 🙂
grand oxide
And no it will not be our problem because we do not use saw
shut willow
no? merc literally have 2nd worst dps output out of all characters
fleet oar
Long-story short: get a bunch of teddy bears, plates and you're good to go
tardy geode
man looked at a calculator and thought that translates 1:1 to in game
grand oxide
I framed baby it’s called sustain. If the character can’t sustain being in combat than you die. Merc just slams his keyboard when you scared and you won’t take damage
tardy geode
I bet merc dps in a run is higher simply because he has more mobility than mul-t
shut willow
while saw dps only can be beaten up by rex, even tho rex wont compare to it after mult will get some proc items
tardy geode
anime profile pictures be like
grand oxide
We aren’t talking about dps we already said dps isn’t everything
If you can’t get dodge attacks at close range reliably you are not a good melee character
tardy geode
imagine thinking sprint=iframes or mobility
grand oxide
Every character can sprint. It’s not a reliable option to get away
tardy geode
literally everyone can sprint lmfao
delicate grove
why bother discussing characters when you can just get razorwire and hellfire tincture on any character and just win
tardy geode
this man is hopeless
grand oxide
And that’s somehow better than Merc’s abilities?
tardy geode
@shut willow enjoy your rainstorn difficulty mul-t runs I guess
delicate grove
as if difficulty matters
tardy geode
? Are you saying it doesn't or that Saw Mul-t is bad on every difficulty
shut willow
@fierce zodiac can you pls provide some math
grand oxide
?
delicate grove
the armor and regen do not matter in the long run
grand oxide
Like we said before dps isn’t everything and math doesn’t apply to escape skills
tardy geode
Those things absolutely matter
shut willow
well yea, just lemme use saw to kill them faster🙄
tardy geode
The point is that you don't bruh.
tardy geode
There's a reason why Loader has shield passive and merc has iFrames
shut willow
sprinting is
tardy geode
lmfao....
grand oxide
Every character has sprinting like we said before
tardy geode
on second though, enjoy your drizzle difficulty mul-t runs @shut willow
grand oxide
And no it is not reliable it is too slow
fierce zodiac
And there's a reason why MUL-T has two stunning abilities, the highest health in the game, two equipments, and one of the three survivors who can sprint while using M1.
shut willow
if you die its your own fault
grand oxide
Because maybe other characters have range and don’t need to be able to sprint and fire
It’ll be your own fault because we don’t use saw
fierce zodiac
@tardy geode, how much do you want to bet that no matter what survivor you pick; I'll always outpace your survivor's damage and lowest death with my MUL-T.
We can even do ShareSuite, so no one falls behind.
tardy geode
Imagine equating attacking while sprinting to iFrames and grappling hook+shield passive
shut willow
can i watch it?
tardy geode
@fierce zodiac Anime profile pictures are rising up I see.
fierce zodiac
I am equating all of the things I listed with I-Frames and Grappling Hook + Shield Passive.
So, are you not challenging my MUL-T?
lucid bobcat
the hell is wrong with anime profile pictures
grand oxide
God doesn’t even know
tardy geode
They're all the same people lmao ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
fleet oar
I'm just happy to be bere :)
fierce zodiac
Fitting for you to run away, with your tail tucked behind your back as soon as you get challenged.
grand oxide
True, they make arguments that they can’t win and then argue till the day they die that they have never lost
fierce zodiac
How unfortunate.
shut willow
when it comes to actually play the game, why you running away like a chicken?
viral drum
What has happened here
lucid bobcat
I mean, sure, crescendo's argument isn't solid, but christ
shut willow
idiots said that saw is bad
grand oxide
They say mil t is a good melee survivor
tardy geode
Man that was some top tier cringe. I didn't even respond to you lmfao
fleet oar
Idk about you all but I enjoy playing whoever I want, whenever I want, with whatever loadout on drizzle and with Command
It's just the best way for me to have dumb fun :)
tardy geode
You challenged someone who didn't respond to you and then claim victory when ignored. Sounds like anime profile picture to me lmao
fierce zodiac
MUL-T is a great survivor.
I have proven it for 4 months straight, to whoever challenged my MUL-T; the only ones who were able to beat my MUL-T is through Shaped Glass.
grand oxide
Yup
green steeple
Hey wait I have an anime pfp
viral drum
Mr rollerblades is pretty good
fleet oar
Didn't know vagrants came from anime
green steeple
Also merc is fast plus automatically gets two jumps
fleet oar
Tentacles I guess
green steeple
So you don’t need to search for a hopoo feather
grand oxide
Why would we want to challenge you? We weren’t saying your mul t is bad
fierce zodiac
Then let's get into a ring.
All you claim is that MUL-T is a bad survivor because you're comparing them to Loader and Mercenary.
Yet, all you saw was good Loader and Mercenary players. Have you seen a good MUL-T player?
fleet oar
Speaking of Merc's 2 jumps:
I discovered that Wax Quail affects both of his jumps instead of just the grounded one which is sick
lucid bobcat
just that mul-t isn't the end-all best survivor
tardy geode
SO CRINGE LOL
fierce zodiac
I concur, @lucid bobcat.
grand oxide
We were saying that mult does not have a reliable get away skill so you get stuck but apparently it’s to hard for you to understand
lucid bobcat
"have you ever seen a good mul-t player?"
that's kinda the point lmao
green steeple
MUL-T is honestly not very good, his attacks are eh
fleet oar
But he is fun
fierce zodiac
In fact, I am so confident in my MUL-T that I can give you all the legendary/red items that drop.
green steeple
And I know thats going to anger some people
fleet oar
In fact, I am so confident in my MUL-T that I can give you all the legendary/red items that drop.
@fierce zodiac
WOAH
grand oxide
Yes one of my favourite charecters
fierce zodiac
I tend to do no legendary/red runs anyway, they are just extra.
delicate grove
give me desk plant if one drops pls
green steeple
Honestly all of the survivors are good except for Rex
fierce zodiac
I got you with the Desk Plant.
grand oxide
Once again nobody said that your mul t was bad
fleet oar
And I know thats going to anger some people
@green steeple
Not me because I honestly agree
In the late game I never find myself using his abilities other than his primary
grand oxide
True
lucid bobcat
we're just saying mul-t is worse than almost everyone else
green steeple
He just feels really slow
fleet oar
True!
green steeple
But merc and commando are really fast
shut willow
some clown said that saw is, doesnt change much
grand oxide
He is slow and feels like he is ice skating or something
viral drum
I just play as anyone really
green steeple
Yeah
fleet oar
I prioritize goat hooves with Mul-T
lucid bobcat
I prioritize choosing any other survivor
viral drum
Got back into the game since new update and all and been having some lovely runs 😄
green steeple
I prioritize energy drinks with merc
fleet oar
I prioritize choosing any other survivor
@lucid bobcat
Lmao damn
viral drum
Why did it go emoji.
green steeple
It just does
viral drum
Swear that smile is so cursed.
shut willow
saw already deals shit-ton of dmg, just have some survive-ability items and mobility ones and you good to go
tardy geode
Literally nobody said that you can't do good with Mul-T. We are just saying that compare Sawblade Mul-T to another survivor and you will have more success with another survivor than with saw mul-t.
shut willow
shields works absolutly great on mul-t
tardy geode
The game is mostly about skill of the player and luck of items then survivor choice anyways, but that doesn't mean survivor choice isn't a factor.
grand oxide
Not really tiger he would need a new skill entirely for the melee route to be viable. Transport mode isn’t that good
tardy geode
And when given all the other options in the game, there's no solid reason to take saw Mul-T
@shut willow shield works good on everyone.
shut willow
the reason is dmg and procing items
lucid bobcat
I want iframes, I play merc. I want one-shots, I play loader. I want range, I play huntress. I want risk, I play rex. I want memes, I play engineer. I want misery, I play acrid.
fierce zodiac
At the start, sure; MUL-T doesn't feel competent or rewarding.
Although, he works in the same case as Commando but even better.
As every other item works better on him than any other survivor, exception to Bustling Fungus, Crowbar, Alien Head and Brainstalks.
All the reason being that Power-saw is the most damaging ability in the game with 1,000% damage a second, 100% damage with 10 ticks. Grabbing a single Harvester's Scythe with full critical strike already nets you 80 health a second, just a single Harvester's Scythe. And that's just one item.
green steeple
MUL-T is slow
grand oxide
Nobody asked how to build mul-t
shut willow
due to mul-t highes hp pool, he benefits from them the most
tough belfry
can you go to some other channel to discuss this shit please
tardy geode
And you are still slow and have no mobility, congrats
grand oxide
Yup
fierce zodiac
Then you have the two equipment with MUL-T.
MUL-T can go full Spinel Tonic by two Spinel Tonic and 1 Gesture of the Drowned. No one else can achieve this type of build.
Yes because slow = lose.
green steeple
Slow does = lose
grand oxide
That’s why mul t is bad
fierce zodiac
That's like stating Engineer = lose because he has no mobility tools.
That literally makes no sense.
grand oxide
He has range
tardy geode
^^^^^^^
fierce zodiac
MUL-T has range. MUL-T has the strongest ability in the game with Power-saw.
grand oxide
That what makes him good he never goes close to enemies in the first place so why would you need a mobility skill on engineer
tardy geode
Mul-T's ranged abilities are not equal to Engineer's ranged abilities.
shut willow
can you just play the game and see the results on your screen?
tardy geode
Yeah the results that are better when not using saw mul-t
grand oxide
They still don’t hear why they are bad mobility on a melee character is a necessity
fierce zodiac
That is true while Engineer is far better suited to range compared to MUL-T.
MUL-T is far better suited to Melee than Engineer. Then MUL-T becomes far better suited to a damage dealer compared to any other survivor.
Mobility is not everything in this game, I don't understand this concept.
fleet oar
Guys just use beam + saw
Smh 4heads
grand oxide
Because engineer doesn’t have a melee ability even if they gave him on nobody would use it because he is not suited for close range
viral drum
Oh hello again bois
shut willow
you dont need mobility when everything dies in 1 touch
fleet oar
Absolutely no middle ground between range and dps, new meta
tardy geode
Mobility is not everything in this game, I don't understand this concept.
viral drum
And ladies if there is any
green steeple
You can’t kill something in one touch with MUL-T
tardy geode
Exactly what I would expect from someone who thinks dps is everything
They are both very important and lacking one so majorly is a big deal
especially when you're lacking the mobility and you are melee
grand oxide
Like imp overlord vs mult saw doesn’t work at all but works on other melee characters because they have mobility
green steeple
Mobility IS everything in the game. With imp overlord you have to run away
grand oxide
Exactly
green steeple
You can’t kill imp overlord in one hit.
shut willow
saw work very good on imp overloard, just let him melee you and while he stuck in his animation saw him
how that could be difficult?
green steeple
It takes a couple of hits, and you need a ranged attack
grand oxide
The man tried defending engineer mobile turrets and commandos grenades yesterday
fierce zodiac
While MUL-T is suited for close ranged, with two abilities that can stun enemies.
His M2, the second best crowd control tool in the game as it has two stunning opportunities totaling to 2 seconds, only rivaling against Mercenary's Utility skill which is 3 seconds of stun. Although, the big difference between the two is that MUL-T's stunning ability is in M2, not utility which means Backup Magazine is better.
His Utility skill also stuns, although not scaling damage compared to Loader, it has its fair share of damage. Although, the most important part is his armor given in Transport Mode; allowing him to run away or close the distance in a fashion that is not in any other survivor which is tanking.
shut willow
they removes commandos main issue (lack of AoE), they deal neat dmg
While sup fire can be on your m1 with 1 
grand oxide
Why tf would a ranged character need aoe
fierce zodiac
For crowd?
green steeple
MUL-T is bad. MUL-T will die from imp overlord before you even get to attack.
grand oxide
Ranged character need stun more than aoe
fierce zodiac
Huntress has AOE, Rex has AOE, Engineer has AOE. MUL-T has AOE.
green steeple
Rex isn’t that good
fierce zodiac
Literally every ranged survivor has AOE except Commando. His grenades solve this.
shut willow
you as commando literally hug monsters to avoid damage fall-of
grand oxide
Unreliable
shut willow
if you sniping monsters as commando thats not how you play him
grand oxide
When did I say that I did
I run the damn shotgun I’m not far away
Grenade isn’t even that good it doesn’t explode on contact
grand oxide
?
Because in a flash if somethings coming from behind you can hit r to stun them with grenade you can’t
It’s more reliable as In you can depend on it
shut willow
how it would help with crowds?
Its your main problem as commando early on, granades fixes that
fierce zodiac
His slide and roll can run away from something that is coming from behind you. He has other skills other than R.
shut willow
while sup fire becomes your m1 with
grand oxide
Because there is a little thing called moving your mouse left and right and then all of a sudden all the enemies are stunned
Ez getaway
shut willow
instead of just throwing granade and kill them?
fierce zodiac
All Suppressive Fire does is 10% extra damage from your M1, can stun every hit, but has a long cooldown of 8 seconds.
During your Suppressive Fire, you cannot use your M1; so what separates it from M1 and itself? Just long range, that is it.
shut willow
commando already 2nd best at procs, just take a beutifull
fierce zodiac
I haven't played Commando in awhile, how much times can you proc Stun Grenade with M1 without any attack speed?
In 10 seconds?
grand oxide
It’s a different play style in which you have a reliable tool to stun enemies and deal consistent damage. Grenade is not consistent because if you miss or if the enemy walks the other direction then you have to wait for cooldown
fierce zodiac
The cooldown of Grenade is 4 seconds.
shut willow
granade have 5 sec cooldown
fierce zodiac
Can get two grenade slots from 1 use of Suppressive Fire.
grand oxide
Your point?
shut willow
that granades are great?
fierce zodiac
What's the point of Suppressive Fire?
When you can get Stun Grenades.
grand oxide
You don’t understand. It’s consultancy. It’s the fact that you can whip out sup fire whenever you need the stun or long range damage
What part of this don’t you understand
shut willow
why you at long range as commando?
fierce zodiac
That it doesn't solve Commando's biggest issue? And that it's his crowd clearing.
grand oxide
We are talking about base characters here stun grenades are not going to stun every single time you throw a grenade
fierce zodiac
Stun Grenade to M1, not Grenade.
grand oxide
God all you anime profile picture people are the same
shut willow
stun is to m1
grand oxide
Still unreliable
fierce zodiac
Having to resort to insults. How childish.
grand oxide
It’s not a on demand stun
shut willow
🤦♀️
delicate grove
fierce zodiac
"Unreliable"
Suppressive Fire cooldown is 8 seconds, nice.
tough belfry
we don't care about your irrelevant characters here so take them somewhere else
shut willow
dealing with major issue is "unreliable"
grand oxide
I’m not going to say it again I told you why it is better but you still do not understand ba bye have fun on your command artifact drizzle runs boys
shut willow
sure
grand oxide
dont worry i wont bother you no more, you clearly cant handle it
shut willow
👌
fleet oar
Wait a second what the fuck
104 stages diluvian?
shut willow
yes
delicate grove
i want a difficulty where you have negative hp regen
solemn fiber
waiting for cabbage vid
delicate grove
we are all waiting for cabbage vid
fleet oar
i want a difficulty where you have negative hp regen
@delicate grove
Constantly burning/poisoned?
delicate grove
whatever works, maybe you start with a monster tooth necklace or something
solemn fiber
plays as rex
delicate grove
plays as loader
fleet oar
You start with that to avoid dying stage 1?
delicate grove
yeah
fleet oar
Still seems pretty hard
It also seems like you'd need to play Rex
silent birch
void suffocation? that way blast shower cant remove it
rain ravine
the thing is just grab behemoth,focus crystal and have suppresive fire BAM death
jaunty olive
Was the guy a troll?
zinc urchin
what on earth happened here, this is the most active prismatic has ever been and it wasnt even prismatic half the time looking quickly xD
fleet oar
Yeah woops
delicate grove
the horrific trials have returned
solemn fiber
cabbage ;-;
waxen torrent
poor cabbage ;-;
silent birch
I mean, its not sacrifice?
vestal inlet
Interesting, killing the alloy unit lets you skip the boss
waxen torrent
that's almost pin-worthy there
vestal inlet
You get 
as well, so that works well with this trial for ethereal
waxen torrent
@solemn fiber is
Interesting, killing the alloy unit lets you skip the boss
You get
pinworthy for this trial
delicate grove
do i
solemn fiber
maybe
delicate grove
i care not for ethereal
solemn fiber
speedrunner
waxen torrent
so @cyan stratus likes this info
solemn fiber
@cyan stratus would also like that informatione
delicate grove
alloy unit prob take longer to kill
solemn fiber
bop him into the tower
waxen torrent
bop him into the tower
delicate grove
but to kill ball first you must kill eg
solemn fiber
quic eg
delicate grove
no
waxen torrent
quic eg
delicate grove
slo eg
also worth noting that going to the bazaar changes stage 2 boss from overloading dunstrider to overloading greater wisp
also info im sure cabbage will love
placid grotto
Does console ever change its prismatic trial artifacts?
humble rapids
is there a point to doing trials atm
frail perch
They are a fun and dynamic way to challenge yourself
The fact that there's so much consistency from run to run creates a framework against which you can test yourself
It allows you to experiment with different ideas and see what works and doesn't work. Just like a scientist has to isolate variables, prismatic trials allow you to grow by isolating variables.
humble rapids
thats boring though
tough belfry
not sure about now but for me trials were great for learning about bosses
zinc urchin
Sped be fun
Go fas
Get bonus points if you beat Wig wiith Loader or Cabbage with Rex
I've done the first one owo (It was a boss-fight slog that he didnt want to but it still counts dammit)
viral drum
Finished the mercenary prismatic trial unlock : )
Well I did it about 2 hours ago now also finished skin too : D
fleet oar
Yeah boy
silent birch
Dunestrider easier to bop with rex tho
delicate grove
everything easier to bop with rex
placid grotto
Why have the prismatic trial artifacts been the same on console since I bought the game?
viral drum
@waxen torrent nice dude
waxen torrent
currently trying to get REX mastery
viral drum
Rex isn’t too hard so hopefully you get that soon boop good luck!
zinc urchin
Brothers, this is prismatic trials
viral drum
@zinc urchin I am a trial
zinc urchin
I appreciate you love this great game but lets keep this place a little on topic ^w^
viral drum
No problemo
silent birch
If you go to court for possession of crystal meth, is it a prismatic trial?
green steeple
Oh my fucking god
placid grotto
Any tips for ethereal? Artifacts are command, Chaos, Sacrifice, and Soul
foggy nacelle
coarse lotus
Maybe you should wait until the console prismatic trials artifacts start rotating properly
Soul can be a real pain with Ethereal
placid grotto
Soul kinda helps with the topaz brooches I’m getting but the barrier is still hard to keep during bossfights, especially the clay dunestrider at the end
Also missile drones help a little but I have artifact of chaos so I don’t know if I should keep using them
tough belfry
if they don't target you it's probably fine
silent birch
iirc you can still get hit if you move inbetween their line of fire
placid grotto
I think I just need help with the clay dunestrider at the end, I’ve made it to that point a few times but that fight is so annoying
tough belfry
idk if it's the same trial since you're on console? what stages do you get, and what items?
placid grotto
Siren’s call and scorched acres, artifact of command so no same items
tough belfry
right
placid grotto
First boss is wandering vagrant and second is dunestrider
silent birch
same stages but completely different artifacts and items
tough belfry
first stage you may find it easier to spawn AWU and slam it
coarse lotus
The artifacts are stuck on console, haven't changed since the update
tough belfry
idk how easy that is on console
placid grotto
AWU?
tough belfry
second stage get the dunestrider just over 1/4 health then preon it
silent birch
also see if newt changes dunestrider
placid grotto
Oh and artifact of sacrifice, there aren’t item chests for preon
silent birch
AWU is the ball that spawns after smashing eggs
placid grotto
I may be able to get something tho
Is everyone stuck on a different combination of artifacts?
silent birch
console and pc dont share the same seeds or trials but this one is weird seeing that both have same bosses and stages
only console is having artifact issues
placid grotto
Are you on pc?
silent birch
yes
coarse lotus
They do have the same seed, just the artifacts are bugged
silent birch
we have honour and death
they shouldnt as this alignment never happened before from what I've seen
placid grotto
I wish I was stuck with glass :/
coarse lotus
Just different artifacts
It should be the same, but I think the console devs might have accidentally made a bug on the code that decides the artifacts.
placid grotto
What secondary attack should I use?
waxen torrent
Merc?
placid grotto
Yep, ethereal
waxen torrent
default is better for dodging
placid grotto
So apparently the preon thing ignores barrier and goes straight to your hp
That would have been useful to know before I ended my own run by trying to kill the wandering vagrant
tough belfry
oops
silent birch
chaos?
placid grotto
Yep, chaos
placid grotto
2nd stage with the preon accumulator and 8 topaz brooches
Bois I think I did it
I DID IT
Ethereal with no glass artifact!
tough belfry
nice
grave heron
???
solemn fiber
@grave heron you just joined n your first n only message is question marks
great job
waxen torrent
Cabbage is the Ethereal poster
grave heron
yessir
solemn fiber
Cabbage posts Ethereal every 3 days for people to use to help them beat it.
I post the cabbage video every time he posts.
grave heron
aight makes sense
indigo snow
solemn fiber
rumia dance
cyan stratus
also if anyone needs the alt m2 unlock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIHYl4PHupg
can do it on this trial in less than a minute
solemn fiber
special cabbage for special extra
waxen torrent
I managed mine after stabilizing the cell
also for cabbage's wr did they go until integer overflow
solemn fiber
what wrs
pearl eagle
Probably thinking about the one pinned, and I'm pretty sure he just used a third party program or changed some files. Apparantly not hard to do at all
cyan stratus
i think people forget that photoshop is much easier than editing files
midnight wharf
does anyone know why on xbox the PT don't change the artifact's set? 5 restarts and the seed changes but the artifacts remain, sucks try ethereal with sacrifice on
midnight wharf
so, never going to change? always the same 4? @solemn fiber
midnight wharf
@solemn fiber but every 3 days the artifacts doesn't change, that's my point
solemn fiber
Then report it as a bug n move on
midnight wharf
@cyan stratus how? got hit before doing the 3 cristals and don't get a single item before 3 min cuz sacrifice
cyan stratus
make stuff fight eachother
tough belfry
didn't realise this trial had guillotine
crowdfunder brittle crown may be ez if there's a way to avoid the (idk name) that spawns at the crowdfunder
cyan stratus
if you go fast enough the templar only shows up at the end of the dunestrider fight
you can also kill it with the saw+crowbar but that takes too long
also spending lunars doesn't count
delicate grove
does blue portal not spawn with the AWU route?
humble rapids
is the thing you unlock with ethereal even good
delicate grove
i mean if you activate newt altar
cyan stratus
ok how do you do that without spending a lunar
delicate grove
you don't, that's the beauty of capitalism
cyan stratus
i wish i could edit my savefile irl
viral drum
Tron
silent birch
tried newt but got a glacial grovetender
placid grotto
@midnight wharf I had the same artifacts as you and I got ethereal still after enough tries. I recommend finding drones to distract and kill stuff until you get a few topaz brooches and a preon accumulator, then beat the first boss and get to the second one as fast as possible, then wait until your drones do enough damage while killing normal enemies to gain barrier, then once the boss is low enough use preon to finish it
You could use a different strategy not involving the preon accumulator but I had to use it for dunestrider’s healing
vestal inlet
Very fun run https://youtu.be/qC48QZnhm54
Youtube butchered the quality 😠
so many cheaters this time around LOL
sour ferry
hey, i'm still trying to unlock characters, but I've never completed a prismatic trial...is there a particular one that works best for the trial today?
I'm only missing the one that requires the power plant thing
Apparently you need to complete a trial to unlock that scythe item everyone seems to love
vestal inlet
REX is definitely the best one for this trial. He gets to oneshot both bosses FLY.
merc would be my second choice if you are just going for the item
sour ferry
lol figures
vestal inlet
you can instakill the alloy unit, but will struggle against the dunestrider
sour ferry
okay I've been enjoying merc, I'll try it
elfin leaf
How do you instakill them?
vestal inlet
check out my run that I linked
for the alloy unit, you use the plant ability (forgot the name lol) to grab it through the pillar
for the dunestrider, you can just blast it off the edge
magic oyster
dang thats so cool ive never seen someone speed run risk of rain
silent birch
@vestal inlet I laughed my ass off seeing the bramble spam
vestal inlet
TY! Check out cabbage's stuff if you want to see more. He runs the game the most.
It's such a good strat : D
supple spindle
@vestal inlet I'm trying to follow your steps, but the alloy unit doesn't spawn. I get the "Whirring grows loud..." message, but no alloy unit.
Also I'm bit confused how you don't seem to fight the boss summoned by the portal
hardy mountain
supple spindle
That channel has no videos
vestal inlet
Killing a boss enemy before the portal is activated skips the summoned boss for some reason.
not sure why it's not spawning for you, never had any problems
are you maybe killing the regular boss first?
supple spindle
I just discovered that killing the alloy unit makes it so that the portal boss doesn't spawn. But I still need to break 2 extra eggs not shown on your video to get it to spawn.
Seems like you destroy 4 of them and that triggers the alloy unit, I have to destroy 6
vestal inlet
You are missing two I'm breaking that are behind the wall
supple spindle
Which wall? Could you point to a timestamp in your video?
vestal inlet
At 17s, in the container
you can't see the damage numbers since I'm not looking at the eggs, but the first bit of text pops up after the roots proc and you can see the healing lines
vestal inlet
no, later inside the tunnel
the shot that breaks them is at 18s
one egg is in the little bit that sticks down, the other on top where the pipes from outside lead
supple spindle
Ah see it now. Do you get them both with that one shot?
vestal inlet
yes, it's very lenient since the tangling growth radius is so large
supple spindle
Thanks for the guidance 🙂 I can now do what you did just slower 😄
For some reason I only get the "plant" to grab the alloy unit once in about 5 tries, not sure what I'm doing wrong.
I guess it is a proximity thing
vestal inlet
Yep, it felt very inconsistent for me as well, but sticking closer to the pillar tends to make it move close enough to the area to get it to work
most of my runs died to it just not taking any/enough damage though
supple spindle
One final question: How do you push the dunestrider so far away? You don't seem to kill an elite to get that "no cooldown" perk, yet you use the "push" skill several times consecutively
vestal inlet
I use tangling growth in addition to the pushback in order to make the dunestrider fly, I only use one push during the fight
the timing is a little tight, but nothing too difficult
supple spindle
oh so tangling growth starts pulling the strider giving it acceleration and then you just push it once?
vestal inlet
exactly
supple spindle
Got it. I might be able to complete my first prismatic trial because of you. Thanks 🙂
humble rapids
hey is it me or is a boss spawning in this trial when it used to not
i'm hitting the tele before 1:30 and getting a blazing vagrant
vestal inlet
the only way you would prevent the boss from spawning is if you were defeating the alloy unit
humble rapids
ohhh
vestal inlet
otherwise, a vagrant spawn is normal
weak dagger
One message removed from a suspended account.
magic oyster
@vestal inlet thanks so much for the video this is my first time completing a trial!
got 2:52 not bad
cyan stratus
brazen gale
at least half the time the items aren't dropping for me during the teleporter event of this prismatic seed, can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?
like a wisp is supposed to drop the healing event item, a nd then you're supposed to get gasoline from I think a crab, and then an extra secondary charge from a lumerian. A few times these have all dropped, and then sometimes literally none of them drop even though I kill all the mobs. I can't figure out why it's happening.
cyan stratus
rng
brazen gale
sigh. well I guess I'll wait for the next seed then. I don't feel like doing 100 thousand million runs hoping to get good RNG. I thought prismatic runs were supposed to be the opposite of that.
I just did 5 runs in a row where I killed over 20 enemies on the first stage and only got one drop. like I just don't understand why you'd do that in something that's supposed to be the same seed every time. I really just don't get it
cyan stratus
you don't need items, use drones
brazen gale
but the best runs will be the people who get lucky on drops, no matter what. even people who are not even bothering to go for items, this will still be true for
that's the opposite of the point of prismatic trials. sac just shouldn't be an artifact for these
or if it is it should be either an item for every so many kills or something
blissful inlet
Does anyone else have/ has had the issue where you can’t see the global ranks for the prismatic trial even after you have completed the current trial?
carmine swallow
any strats on getting mercenary's alt special
buoyant dove
I cannot figure out how to do the teleporter boss with merc on first stage
cyan stratus
kill wisps then boss
bleak fiber
damn Cabbage how do u kill the crysytal with E,Q,E ??? I have to do E,Q, Right click, E
And after that there is 1 wisp and 2 new ones spawn... I have 5 at that time and there spawn even more
Also after I activate the turret and kill wasps the stone golem is already at the crystal (35 sec)
and there spawn 4 elite wisps for before the boss fight... not a single one for you
cyan stratus
just go faster, use m1 during q
echo sedge
you can do that??
haughty spade
You can use m1 during pretty much any merc's attack
green steeple
How do I complete a prismatic trial without falling below 100% health
bleak fiber
when I activate the second turret I am 8 sec behind you and 3 elite wisps spawn .__.
bleak fiber
Okay I have to admit that u got extremely lucky with ur run... Vagrant is flying so far above me that I cant even push him close to the ground
- all of those wisps spawns
I'm even faster at the boss but still there is so much random stuff going on
tough belfry
just kill the boss first then?
bleak fiber
I cant because he is flying to high
tough belfry
....
bleak fiber
yea I'm really frustrated right now haha gonna take a brake
humble rapids
this trial in general is frustrating for ethereal
tough belfry
first stage is easy, second stage doesn't seem too bad
humble rapids
the clouds of wisps are the worst part
humble rapids
well, besides Sacrifice
tough belfry
no items doesn't matter
you can slam the first boss and the second boss is a horde with not much health
humble rapids
vagrant never wants to cooperate
tough belfry
even if it doesn't slam you can still just stand on top of it and be fine most of the time
humble rapids
not in my experience
tough belfry
it doesn't attack and you can use it as a wall against everything else
heady radish
where did the second boss spawn?
pliant pulsar
what is the current top time
cyan stratus
probably like 1min30
elfin plinth
@steel notch post memes in other server
steel notch
ok
sand light
i couldn't get mercenary ethereal in this seed but i made it to 94 on speed
i don't think i'll ever manage to get mercenary ethereal T_T
94 is 3m23s in case anybody was wondering
zenith plinth
I don’t think the mercenary challenge is worth it.
humble rapids
is the alt special even good
haughty spade
Gives you range at a cost of 2 seconds of i-frames
I also consider it wonky as shit to aim
tough belfry
it takes 3 to destroy a crystal so it's useless for trials
cyan stratus
not for glass trials
jaunty olive
What’s the fastest time ever? (without cheating)
delicate grove
probably one of the ones that has stage 5 as 2nd stage
tough belfry
delicate grove
p sure there are faster times than that
sand light
i think the mercenary challenge is significantly harder than all of the other skill unlocks
i want it but it's too hard
cyan stratus
that's the fastest recorded time
fickle yarrow
I'm waiting for a good week to try out the Ethereal unlock as well. I don't even like playing mercenary, i just want all the unlocks. His 3 challenges are the only challenges I have left.
cyan stratus
this trial is good
vapid merlin
in case anyone doesn't already know you can just edit a file and get the unlock
solemn fiber
removes the point
delicate grove
if it enables someone to enjoy the game then not really
people can play how they prefer
vapid merlin
^ only mention it since alot of people have trouble with it
jaunty olive
It’s pointless if you don’t earn it yourself
jaunty olive
Why does he keep reposting that?
delicate grove
its not pointless if the player doesnt care about earning it
solemn fiber
reporting what?
jaunty olive
Sorry, half asleep
solemn fiber
ah, you mean me or ethereal
jaunty olive
You
vapid merlin
it's a meme
jaunty olive
I guess that makes sense, since people give themselves infinite lunar coins
delicate grove
i give myself infinite lunar coins
solemn fiber
ive posted the video every time cabbage has posted his ethereal ever since #1 (of mine, not since his #1)
delicate grove
doesnt make the game any less enjoyable
jaunty olive
For speedrunning?
delicate grove
and casual
i already do enough grinding speedrunning anyway so grinding for lunar coins seems pointless to me
ofc id do it if save editing wasnt possible, but it is so here we are
jaunty olive
What’s your Sum of Best?
delicate grove
what do you mean
jaunty olive
Your best times on each stage
In obliteration
It would be interesting to find out what the best possible time would be
jaunty olive
So you don’t keep track of that kind of thing?
delicate grove
per stage?
delicate grove
i keep track of splits in Livesplit
but they arent that important to me
each stage time can vary because of tp location etc
jaunty olive
Making a TAS would be complicated
delicate grove
yeah i have no knowledge on that, but it would be cool to see
would need seed manipulation for it really
jaunty olive
Yes but that would need its own category
delicate grove
seed manipulation also covers setting a seed
cyan stratus
best seed i've found is 9133010097906979750 but idk about that one
kinda falls off hard after s1
lost dirge
On a scale of 1 to utter self-loathing, how feasible is ethereal this time around?
solemn fiber
watch the video
grand oxide
Nice man
grand igloo
Completed my first prismatic trial yesterday to unlock scythe, clocked in at around 8 minues with engineer
sweet orchid
How is glass enabled in the pinned video for this challenge?
icy urchin
do you happen to be on console? the pts are different on dif platforms
sweet orchid
Yeah i am on console
Since the artifacts update i have only seen the trials have command, sacrifice, soul and chaos on
So was surprised to see glass
icy urchin
that's news to me
sweet orchid
I am glad that isn't intentional
Because having sacrifice always on for a trial seems really stupid
elfin plinth
nice
cyan stratus
yeah this trial has some of the worst crystals i've seen
also 3rd sacrifice drop s1 is wax quail
delicate grove
its funny though, loader starts with a vase and it is actually useful on loader for once
rex capacitor and egg though
very good items
cyan stratus
you don't use egg for anything
delicate grove
shame
proud sapphire
trying to do the merc challenge in this seed
unreal that its horde of many greater wisps
terse pollen
I had something weird happen to me while I tried to complete the trial
It was like my 15th try or smthin and on the second stage insted of the hord of gun people it was a overloading imp lord?
I thought bosses always were the same
only difference between that run and others is that I picked up other items
is there any explanation for this?
terse pollen
yeah MUL-T
waxen torrent
okay good
terse pollen
ah
lost dirge
Not this trial... sky meadows is too big for cheese. You have to be legitimately good at mercenary, which is the worst possible situation to be in.
tough belfry
haven't seriously tried this trial but for going fast if you upload a video we can say if you're doing anything obviously wrong
past grove
im just asking in general lawl this is my 2nd trial lawl. I just picked up the game during the summer sales lawl
lost dirge
Trails are... crazy. But if you're looking for no damage, I'd say a large stage has too many variables to be reliable on that front.
shrewd furnace
indigo snow
either of those options works
hazy hinge
Is there a reason as to why the prismatic trial artifacts from not switching on console? Is it bugged?
cyan stratus
ebon nest
this meme has me jamming every damn time, thank you @solemn fiber
humble rapids
clipping out of the map? christ
zenith plinth
Elo pasztecisry
buoyant dove
there's shaped glass in the lunar shop but then the next stage is different than the one shown in the video. Anyone have a strategy for the glass route?
is there a preon there or anything?
too hard to explore around on the 2nd stage
indigo snow
I'm more surprised that you're talking about runs being randomized in the prismatic trial channel
Where runs are decidedly not random
indigo snow
Nah pris trials rotate every 3 days and are always identical during that period
for speedrunning
rare badger
Interesting
indigo snow
I should mention @buoyant dove if you're on console the trials don't match up to the PC version, and Cabbage's video is always the PC version
buoyant dove
I'm on PC, made it far with his video but I'm thinking shaped glass might be the way to go
indigo snow
Also the lunar shop changes what the second stage is
buoyant dove
He just doesn't have a video on the 2nd stage if you go lunar shop and it's quite difficult to explore there
yeah that's my problem, his second stage differs from mine because I'm going lunar
solemn fiber
then dont
buoyant dove
I'm thinking shaped glass might be the way to go, I'm struggling with his route
solemn fiber
whats better:
following the tutorial or diverging from it
indigo snow
There's probably a way to make it work, but the time increase would also change the boss that appears, which might be worse
buoyant dove
possibly diverging from it, hence why I'm curious what's there
solemn fiber
his tutorial gives you a way to constantly train to do the route
buoyant dove
I simply asked if anyone knows what's on the 2nd if you go lunar, not whether I should diverge from the tutorial, I have my reasons. He may not have gone lunar for many reasons (including why he usually doesn't use lunar items at all)
delicate grove
why cant you explore the second level?>
buoyant dove
it's hard
big time investment, if I know what's there I can decide whether I should keep going tutorial or not
indigo snow
Since the lunar shop freezes time it's not exactly a bad idea but you'll pretty much be on your own routing it
delicate grove
just explore it without worrying about getting damaged
buoyant dove
it doesn't seem to freeze time in prismatic trials
but it also seems to cost more coins and I'm gonna eventually run out
delicate grove
you can edit your save file to have more lunar coins
buoyant dove
shaped glass might be worth it compared to cabbage's tonic way, especially since it makes getting to the boss much easier
indigo snow
There's the option of going to the bazaar and second level without buying shaped glass
so you can explore
delicate grove
why
buoyant dove
but again, if anyone knows if there's anything worth it there it would save me a ton of time
indigo snow
But in general if you're gonna be running it a hundred times it's probably best not to use lunars, don't ya think
Unless it's just given to you
buoyant dove
yeah but shaped glass may make it so i dont have to run it hundreds of times, depending on what else is there
ive made it to the boss using the tutorial on stage 2 multiple times but I'm having trouble and I think glass could be a major key for consistently getting me to the boss
also cabbage's video involves a lunar pod so im gonna be using some amount of coins no matter what, albeit a lot less going his route
indigo snow
It's mainly about how confident you are that you can get it done before using more lunars than you're comfortable with
delicate grove
if its this much of an issue you should wait till an easier trial that doesnt involve lunars
buoyant dove
im not confident cabbage's way is gonna work for me
indigo snow
There's also that
buoyant dove
and I'm impatient, feel like doing the challenge now and I have the time now, not sure about later
delicate grove
either that or edit the save file because all you are doing is saving yourself hours of grinding on drizzle
buoyant dove
I'm at 80 coins, if I know if there's a good item 2nd stage it shouldn't take all of those coins
tough belfry
just route it yourself
buoyant dove
I will if no one answers me, but again it'll save me a ton of time if anyone else knows if there's something good there
tough belfry
i'd assume nobody's tried it
buoyant dove
same here but I'm desperate so why not
buoyant dove
there's a preon on the second stage
coarse lotus
Third stage
buoyant dove
add that to the fuel cell that cabbage gets in his video and the shaped glass you can get from the lunar shop and i think that's gonna be better than his video if you've got the coin
also id argue it's still 2nd, don't count a shop as the third
i mean 2nd
buoyant dove
np
there's also a brooch but I don't remember exact location
if you have the coins that's way better than the 2nd stage in Cabbage's vid imo
preon is the first hit of a shrine of chance in the water left of spawn
buoyant dove
I fucking did it
totally recommend going the lunar route with the fuel cell from the first map, shaped glass from shop, and preon from chance shrine in alt 2nd stage
not sure fuel cell is even necessary but that's what I did
@cyan stratus thanks for the walkthrough for stage 1, really helped and would not have been able to do it otherwise
karmic jay
congrats!
trim mortar
Hi, on a difficulty scale, how difficult is the current trial? I'm a new player looking to unlock the harvester scythe
tough belfry
all monsters are elite so it's probably quite difficult
thorny magnet
now that the update is coming, im gonna try and get ethereal. is the current trial somewhat easy to do?
tough belfry
no
thorny magnet
aight i'll wait for glass or command then
cyan stratus
yes
rustic quail
update? when?
tough belfry
rustic quail
ahh cool thanks
solemn fiber
<@&559786374228738069>
lavish raven
!ban @belalmax100#6307 spam
rocky pollen
I can't find user @belalmax100#6307.
belalmax100#6307 was banned
lavish raven
There
indigo snow
Smh
green steeple
What happened
coarse lotus
Don't ask questions, just accept
buoyant dove
@thorny magnet this trial isnt bad imo. Cabbage's video for the first stage shows you which route to take and how to cheese the boss by clipping through a wall, just takes some practice. If you go lunar shop you can get a shaped glass, and then the 2nd stage from there has a preon in the shrine of chance in the water right of spawn. Grab the preon and shoot the boss to win.
thorny magnet
aight i'll try a couple of runs
flint marten
I managed to do my first PT this week, how often are they reset?
icy urchin
3 day afaik
flint marten
No way that's faster then I thought. Time to give it another go!
upper shoal
any advice on how to get the Mercenary skill in prismatic trials?
azure schooner
wait for an easy trial, then brute force it
buoyant dove
Good artifacts are kin (assuming enemies aren't wisps), command, and glass to my knowledge
red raptor
glass and command
white frost
when's the last time there was a trial without artifacts
tough belfry
before artifacts update
white frost
Enigma is a really good artifact too, in my opinion
The equipment order is fixed, so you can kinda just deplete equips until you get a good one. The only exception is getting a hell fire, and that can be worked around
silent birch
unless sacrifce
cyan stratus
this trial has glass, command and the first chest i open has a red item
so do i even need to make a video for this one
lost dirge
Oh geez, what does one pick to become ethereal?
If I made that decision while playing, I would take so long that something hits me.
My gut tells me daggers though
waxen torrent
@cyan stratus make the vid, please.
cyan stratus
yes
rare badger
Is it possible for there to be lunar buds in prismatic trials or have I just been unlucky with artifact of sacrifice in the last two seeds?
solemn fiber
you answered your own question
- yes, they can spawn
- if the artifact is on, no, since all chests n shops are gone
rare badger
Hmmm, I’m trying to get the merc prismatic trial unlock and the only chance I really have is to get transcendence right off the bat
solemn fiber
follow the tutorial
rare badger
I’m on console
thin timber
@rare badger Transcendence wouldn't work anyways
rare badger
Really?
lost dirge
Shield damage counts against the challenge.
thin timber
Yeah, shields count as health for the purpose of Ethereal
lost dirge
Same with the huntress challenge on the third stage
cyan stratus
slowder
rare badger
Wait, but the challenge is font fall below %100 health, I thought shield didn’t matter
silent birch
how long til the cheaters start cropping up
thin timber
rare badger
I remember specifically getting topaz broaches because they could be hit and be fine
thin timber
Brooches are fine, yes.