#prismatic-trials

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fast bane
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turret hard to hit wisp?

prime snow
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lmao

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theres a guillotine by the teleporter in the large chest

fast bane
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which stage?

prime snow
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looking around map1 for items

fast bane
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ok

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huntress then?

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should i get the first firework/repulsive armor? @prime snow

prime snow
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id recommend firework

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im lookign around, theres an energy can in a small back towards where you first spawned in relation to teleporter and the large chest too

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theres a trishop in a corner that also has a can, theres an equip barrel with wings

fast bane
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found the guillotine, and also get that intended bomb suicide with huntress holding down mouse click lmao

prime snow
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all other map drops are trash

royal bane
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no I meant the turrets hit the wisps hard

prime snow
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grab guillotine and huntress m1 should carry you

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dont even need to hide for map1 teleport with it

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the only run i didnt back out to menu on was my ethereal, almost 200 place now lmao

fast bane
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it seems if i take the equipment near spawn, the monster getting more aggresive than if i dont

prime snow
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Equip isnt necessary

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I just use it to cheese map1 teleporter

fast bane
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how is the difficulty to do ethereal mercenary with this trial?

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or is it possible? since our health is modified

prime snow
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Its really easy

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You can pretty much just follow cabbages vid and get it in a couple tries

fresh jolt
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can u link vid

prime snow
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Map 2 just make sure you always have one of your skills up and the jellies will literally never be able to keep up with you

tawdry knoll
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finally beat it. hearing about the missile drone helped a lot.

prime snow
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Route works for most characters, biggest problem you'll run into is in first 20 seconds

tawdry knoll
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missile drone made it way easier

prime snow
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nj

tawdry knoll
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thanks

fresh jolt
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the big brain hide

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thank

prime snow
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To note about the hide

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Id say he got lucky in vid, I had to spam my abilities after I dropped off cause wisps clumped in a weird spot

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Just listen out for them and be careful

quaint cove
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Thank you so much @cyan stratus I finally achieved Ethereal. <3

wary shuttle
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oh dang, here's my chance to work on 100%

abstract fog
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help guys. icant finish a prismatic trial

cold orchid
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there is a video 5 messages up

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it shows complete no-hit run

dusk hearth
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if you don't need mercenary challenge on it and just want the scythe, engineer/huntress are easier imo, just grab the missile drone early and it'll deal with most of the wisps

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just did the merc challenge with the help of the video though, I haven't played merc so thought it'd be harder than it was, took a few tries and failed a bunch of runs to burning elites but got it in the end

wary shuttle
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Finally got Etheral

thorny forum
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how are people doing the trial so fast? I got 4:18 with huntress running straight to teleporters and could save maybe a few more seconds, but #22 is already 4:11 so there must be something I'm missing right? Is there a way to get to or complete the teleporter faster?

cold orchid
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cabbage does in 4:00

eager cliff
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i hate

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the challenge for mercs ulti

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i really do

thorny forum
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ohh I just realised, huntress' alternate utility is probably faster

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I don't have it unlocked yet ๐Ÿ˜

abstract fog
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ok thanks guys

indigo snow
elfin plinth
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Pin

indigo snow
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I can always tell if there's a new one because I see the cabbage theme when scrolling

solemn fiber
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yesss

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25 times ive posted the video, of course some are .5 so its actually 23 times
23x3 = 69 days

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nice

eager cliff
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im so angry

indigo snow
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nice

eager cliff
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im angy

fast bane
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It is quite hard and need big luck to do ethereal in this easy trial in general

icy gust
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@thorny forum i find huntress's triple blink better for dodging. you lose some of the mobility of vertical blinking but gain dodging ability

thorny forum
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Yeah but for the trial specifically, I have no trouble surviving/killing everything before the teleporter finishes anyway

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it's getting to the teleporter that I need to do faster somehow lol

tough belfry
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triple blink is faster

thorny forum
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alright, guess I'll have to get lucky and find a crowbar printer

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or have a long run and get lucky to find 12 crowbars lol

icy gust
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artifact of command makes that easy

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just go drizzle and get 12 crowbars

neon prism
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^

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literaly a breeze with command

icy gust
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tbh artifact of command can make monsoon p easy even

neon prism
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bUT, if you want to have fun

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i'd recommend turning on sacrifice with command, going monsoon, and just ascending to godhood before the crowbars

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its at least a bit more fun

icy gust
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if youre huntress invest in like

neon prism
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crowbars

icy gust
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4 topaz brooch, a couple guillotine and some sticky bombs before crowbars

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maybe spare mags

neon prism
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spare mags with some wisps make most levels a joke tbh

icy gust
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topaz brooch makes a lot of stuff a joke tbh

neon prism
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just m2 a group of enemies and watch the universe explode

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yeah also get some topaz brooches if you dont kill everything on the stage in 3 glaives

icy gust
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stack like topaz brooch and spare mags and you'll be p survivable

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command is how i got my monsoon huntress run

neon prism
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after that, a guillotine or two to cut down some elite nuisances, and uuuuuu wisp stack ig, makes the world explode, as previously said

icy gust
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if you get hold of aegis, stack crit and harvester scythes

neon prism
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then again, it is command, so you become pretty immortal after a stage or two

icy gust
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true

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getting blue portal at like stage 4 is just infinite red items basically lol

elfin plinth
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@mellow mesa could you remove this mabadii

rocky pollenBOT
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dynoSuccess mabadii#3387 was banned

lusty narwhal
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prismatic trial today is pretty spicy

drifting heron
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@cyan stratus Thank you so much for your videos, i managed to finally get the merc achievement

wary shuttle
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^

open summit
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yeah it is, watching sodapoppin doing it is funny af

crimson needle
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Hello! Any tips for Ethereal during this trials? Is it just trial and error or I gotta do some really specific stuff to get through? I've been trying for hours, but the wisps always seem to insta-fire when they spawn, giving me no chance to react.

tough belfry
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have you watched cabbage's video

crimson needle
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I have, even trying his strategy, it still feels like wisps are random, being completely passive at some times, and being a literal 12 wisp firing squad at the other.

tough belfry
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you shouldn't have to deal with any wisps with that route though

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the first ones are always in the same place, you preon the boss, then you hide until tele is done

rose path
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I got hit in the last second as merc
just after hitting the tp to finish the run
JUST

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I really didn't think that fire jellyfish would catch up before my dash went off cd

crimson needle
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The 2 wisps that spawn above the tri-shop sometimes divert beyond range of 1 blinding assault, making you spend more time and the CD not being back before the fire wisp spawns

tough belfry
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i haven't actually tried it ethereal but if it's something right at the start you can just reset until you get it how you want it

drifting heron
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when i did it i found 3 wisps spawing there and i just killed each one with one dash

rose path
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Yeah, there's a third wisp that can randomly spawn with the other 2 near the shop or behind you

drifting heron
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then i used M2 to avoid fall damage, got the fireworks and r the to crystal

dusk hearth
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I did it differently personally, went for the drone behind at the start, takes longer, but the drone kills a bunch of stuff so you only have to kill stuff that spawns in firing range

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also wisps will sometimes aggro the drone instead

crimson needle
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Oh, considering I need 3 wisp kills for the drone, the strategy is to kill the first three, get the drone and rush to the teleporter?

drifting heron
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theres the preon which is super good

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the tendrils 1 shot the boss, then you can just hide in the hole as showon in cabbage's video

rose path
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you know jellyfish are actually faster than they look like when you're not looking at them

crimson needle
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I know, I did that already, but a random wisp came in and shot me in the hole

drifting heron
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i dont think that usually happens so it might be just bad luck

dusk hearth
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for the drone, you kill the crystal close to it

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crystal+the wisp that spawns next to it is enough to get the drone money

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then by the time you reach the multi and equipement, you can buy both(mostly drone killing), mind you I don't know if it's any better, just felt it was easier like that

rose path
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there's a lot of luck involved with wisps spawning somewhere else and their wandering
sometimes there's like 2 wisps remaining after I get out of the hole and sometimes there's 7 floating around

dusk hearth
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that's why I like the drone, you go in the hole and then everything's dead

rose path
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the final jellyfish can also spawn very afar from eachother making the preon shot kinda missy

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where's this drone you speak of

dusk hearth
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at the start

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behind you when you start

rose path
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oh

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might be worth taking after finishing stage 1

dusk hearth
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tbh it's more useful for stage 1 than 2, but yeah even on 2 it's useful

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you can get 2 more on stage 2, army of drones

rose path
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I feel like if you miss just 1 second, wisps will pile up super fast

dusk hearth
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the drone can kill 2 wisps per volley(although missiles will sometimes loop around them and shit), so it's easy to keep them down tbh

rose path
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to think that I had this done and got hit by a jellyfish while the tp was finishing the little animation

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uuuuh
I got hit by a fire elite trail while using the dash?

plush sigil
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Not all of the dash has i-frames

rose path
crimson needle
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also be careful with overloaded wisps, they can stick the lightning bombs to you even while you're dashing

rose path
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most of my fails are either at the start of the run, after getting out of the hole or one sneaky jellyfish behind me

crimson needle
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most of my fails are due to some random ice elite exploding and killing me

tiny pier
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i wish prismatic trails would remember the class you selected

crimson needle
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or random wisps shooting from across the map

reef wigeon
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first time doing a prismatic trial. This is impossible? wtf hahahha

rose path
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I hate how random wisps can be
sometimes they just stare at you
other times they spawn and instantly blast you

reef wigeon
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I got one shotted by a wisp in my god run just then.. Perma tonic and 5 shaped glass, I was one shotting boss's with my left mouse button lolz

crimson needle
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ye, this is basically a roulette

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the game chooses if you'll get the alternate ult for merc or not during this trials

tiny pier
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I honestly hate it

crimson needle
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by the way Sporry, a safer way to get out of the hole, look slightly up, and instantly use your special, you'll kill 3 or 4 wisps on it.

tiny pier
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It's luck completely out of control of the player

rose path
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I'll try that one

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aaaaaaaaaah I still cant believe I got hit by that one goddamn jellyfish when I had just finished

tiny pier
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imagine if the devs implented a quick restart

crimson needle
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One thing that might be worth it is the wax quail atop a cliff on stage 2

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it gives you unparalelled jellyfish evasion

tiny pier
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okay what is the tactic for today's merc run?

crimson needle
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Cabbage's Video is out already Defragged

tiny pier
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where do i find it

crimson needle
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youtube: search for cabbage ethereal

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look at the most recent one on his channel

tiny pier
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is it not the pinned one?

crimson needle
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yep it is

rose path
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๐Ÿ˜Œ

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massive thanks for the cabbage vid and all the other tips

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now if only the skill was a good alternative lol

crimson needle
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WHAT?

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I DID IT AND IT DIDN'T COUNT LOL

neon prism
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you must've taken 1 hp of damage somewhere in the trial

hybrid igloo
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I was trying to, nearly finished the first stage and accidentally clicked and got myself into a predicament

rose path
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there should be a ethereal mode

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instant restart with merc
get hit once and die

crimson needle
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I must've taken a single tick from a fire trail

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Ye, and instantly restart as merc

tiny pier
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same

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That is the frustrating part for me

crimson needle
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Well, time to try and try again

rose path
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good luck
may the wisp spawns be kind

crimson needle
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noooo

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my perfect run ruined by artifact of spite

feral warren
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Guys i'm having problems with this trial, i've seen the video and i've managed even to get to the second teleporter without any hit. However the jellyfish are so goddamn annoying and i can't always hear them, moreover the wisp are constantly changing their spawn in the first stage and this thing is messing me up a lot, i'm getting a pause from the trial but i wanted to know if you have any advice

crimson needle
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Wisps and jellos are really random

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Just keep trying until rngesus blesses you

feral warren
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I've tryied for an hour, i'm taking a small break, also i forgot to mention that i'm trying the Gabbage's route but i've read of a missle drone but idk where it is and if it's worth

crimson needle
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I've tried both, Cabbage is more consistent

summer trout
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so guys

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what is the easiest, most braindead way one can complete this trial?

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I just want the scythe unlock, I don't care about anything else

prime snow
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Huntress

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Turn off music so you can hear spawns

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Buy guillotine in the large box by map 1 teleporter

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You'll one shot every thing

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Always stay moving vs jellies, they really shouldn't be able to touch you

tight patrol
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Are the console trials any good today

summer trout
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I can't even find the large box lol

crimson needle
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Good. I hit a rock and get launched into orbit. N I C E.

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Lost another good run...

prime snow
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Its on other side of the pit by the teleporter

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There's also 2 energy cans to pick up

crimson needle
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Screw this, did it again and it didn't count.

prime snow
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Trishop in back corner, one in a chest also by teleporter

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Gomes are you taking any fall dmg

crimson needle
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Nope, literally no dmg run

prime snow
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That's what your end screen says?

crimson needle
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Ye

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Already on menu, think I can't print anymore

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I did it twice, none with any visible damage numbers.

tight patrol
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Gomes you on PC?

crimson needle
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Yeah

tight patrol
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Fucc

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I need help

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I got to stage 2 thanks to a missle drone

prime snow
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Is there a difference between console and PC trials

tight patrol
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The boss of stage 2 is a blazing magma worm

prime snow
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Oh fuck that lmfao

tight patrol
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I think Yes @prime snow

prime snow
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Yeah that's way diff

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Stage 2 pc is artifact of kin glass spite glacial jellyfish

tight patrol
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Ik

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I was looking at cabbages thingy

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I want to die

crimson needle
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Oh ok wth

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Apparently it just didn't show on the finishing screen

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I got the achievement complete on my log lmao

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absolute bruh moment

tight patrol
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At least you have it

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Fuck my life

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So my strat is to break crystals, get a missle drone, focus crystals and crowbar. Kill the beetle queen and suffer

dusk hearth
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you shouldn't have a beetle queen

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are you on switch and it's different there?

lone heath
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hey guys any topaz brooch? or any good items in general for this trial

drifting heron
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there is a preon near spawn

gray scaffold
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oh wow there is a lunar pod near the spawn

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great waste of a lunar coin

autumn wolf
lone heath
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There's a repulsion armor plate in the market in the spawn (the "?" item). Pretty good one.

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Also, I found crowbar and fresh meat in the far corner of the teleporter zone. Get the guillotine from the big boi chest aswell. s2 is pretty easy just don't get killed in s1. Play huntress; you can get 2 energy drinks. One is in a market, the other one is in the chest close to the hole near the teleporter.

tough belfry
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what artifact isnt there

light scroll
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Am I just a scrub or is trying to get Ethereal as Merc a bad idea with this trial? If it was anything other than wisps on stage one, I feel like I'd be okay.

tough belfry
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u r scrub

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stage 2 is free, stage 1 is kinda free

prime snow
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cbum this is a really good trial for ethereal

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grab preon accumulator for map 1 boss, you can hide in pit for entire teleporter event

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your run is basically make or break in first 20 seconds, just try to save shift/ r in case wisps spawn on you

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also im malding

grim sphinx
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Yo don't know if any of you found this out yet, but there are visions of heresy in the bazaar

prime snow
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i was on pace for a 425ish and then the last glacial jelly wouldnt get baited out of the long tunnel, it got stuck in a corner

grim sphinx
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so if you can get into there, just buy that and snipe away the entire second stage

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Also going into the bazaar changed the jellyfish to spawn into contraptions - but with Visions those are no problem at all to kill

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(Did this on PC btw)

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And if Visions aren't your thing, there's also the two misslie drones in Siren's

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Thought it wouldn't be possible to get the damn merc skill, but then Visions came along and boom, challenge done

zealous edge
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stage 1 was free once i figured out to run to one of those pillars near the teleporter after i activated

prime snow
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still losing like 13 seconds on that stupid tunnel jelly

cyan stratus
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for my 3:57 i used telekinesis to draw it out of the cave

prime snow
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nice

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whats your leaderboard for that time

cyan stratus
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probably like rank 500

gray scaffold
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wow you doing it in 4 minutes meanwhile me in like 9 minutes

tough belfry
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how did you do stage 1 so fast

glass yew
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anyone challenging the mountain

feral warren
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And if Visions aren't your thing, there's also the two misslie drones in Siren's
@grim sphinx that would make it super easy but where did you find the Altar?

vast beacon
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Hey, could someone tell me how I'm supposed to beat this Prismatic Trial? >.<

lucid bobcat
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finish all 3 stages

zenith plinth
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There's a lil video of a merc doing it, I just copied him

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took me a few trys but yeah easiest way I did it

vast beacon
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could you send me the link of the vid?

zenith plinth
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1 sec

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1st stage might take you a few trys

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the 2nd stage is sort of easy? you'll just have to find this last random jelly fish

vast beacon
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wtf!? Why is it so hard just to unlock a item ..?

glass yew
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so there are three spawning at the beginning

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instead of two? or am i supposed to dodge the third

gray scaffold
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noice i managed to get from like 3000th place to sub 1000

glass yew
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yeah im around 4k right now lol

gray scaffold
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i suggest using huntress

vast beacon
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I have tried, but I get instakilled

glass yew
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im trying to get ethereal rn

gray scaffold
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this is a tip to someone else and it really helps: turn your music off and listen to the enemies spawning

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from*

prime snow
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๐Ÿ˜Š

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People do read my chat!

gray scaffold
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i mean it helps alot

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is 832nd a good place?

prime snow
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yeah i figure itd help people who get sniped as theyre leaving for tele

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im not sure how many people do this per release

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also cabbage, your 3:57 is assuredly not 500 because my 442 or whatever it was got me like 187

gray scaffold
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nice 239th place

prime snow
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good trial to grind

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im sad loader dies to crystals

glass yew
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use the R

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or your fourth

prime snow
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r doesnt hit

glass yew
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oh rip

delicate grove
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you can get a pretty decent time with loader if you use the meteor behind where you spawn

glass yew
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o damn

prime snow
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epic, didnt know meteor was on map

delicate grove
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only downside is you have to wait for the cooldown to reset on the next stage

glass yew
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its a lunar boio

prime snow
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duh

glass yew
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o right

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lmao

prime snow
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theres spinel tonic on map 2 iirc

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i wonder if the armor and small hp lets you survive crystals

thorny crown
prime snow
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nice

glass yew
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anyone else getting 3 wisps to spawn at the beginning

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using cabbage's route?

cyan stratus
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you just need cheat engine

gray scaffold
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omfg i got the ULTRA RARE item that drops from elite monsters that gives me their elite aspect

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during a trial

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too bad its useless

cyan stratus
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yeah that's more common when they're all elite

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still doesn't drop that often but fun to see

gray scaffold
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yeah but its still a rare item

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i mean it would be alotta more useful if it didnt take up the utility spot

cyan stratus
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yeah i dont play a lot of base game but i wouldn't think it's useful when there's other equipments you can have

primal arch
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Damn, finally got the ethereal. I hated wisps before, now even more

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And thank god for missile drones

tough belfry
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not even 5x speed disliking

cyan stratus
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but 5x speed hard :(

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u first

tough belfry
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idk how to change the speed

glass yew
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fuck yeah

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THANKS FOR THE ROUTE CABBAGE โค๏ธ

cyan stratus
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use cheat engine ??

glass yew
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no

tough belfry
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do u think i use cheat engine

cyan stratus
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i was talking to @tough belfry

glass yew
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o

tough belfry
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i'm not a pro hacker

slim lintel
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cabbage confirmed cheater his whole youtube is a lie

cyan stratus
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np glad i helped

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ok but when u change speed the sound effects stay the same

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and most of my videos have sound

tough belfry
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just replace it with music at 5x speed

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it'll make it feel faster

cyan stratus
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speaking of fast, sub 11 when

tough belfry
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i haven't even tried running ce yet

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resetting for blue orb and lunar pod then dying should be fun

cyan stratus
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want an ahk script

grim sphinx
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@feral warren at the very top of the map, at the giant spine skeleton

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@feral warren dont have a map atm, sorry

feral warren
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Np, but doesn't that like fuck up the route?

grim sphinx
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didn't for me - or, well, slightly, got contraptions in siren's instead of jellies

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but those spawned very, VERY rarely

gray scaffold
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turns out 6 seconds make alotta difference

grim sphinx
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and with visions i could just snipe them from afar

gray scaffold
wispy ermine
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Yes

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This new trial is easy
I finally got the scythe

gray scaffold
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yeah once you know the hang of it its EZ

prime snow
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glass is peak gaming]

lyric swan
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I got two elite aspects in a row in this trial lmao

feral warren
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I got it finally, thanks a lot to everyone

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I wanted this achievement for months

prime snow
rose path
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I used this trial to unlock engi's secondary mines too lol

gray scaffold
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Lel I unlocked huntress second primary so cool

cyan stratus
slim lintel
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lmao portals are super bugged rn

wispy grove
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pls change the challenge for the mercenary's utility skill, it's literally impossible

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special skill***

cyan stratus
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??

soft acorn
west trail
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trying to unlock ethereal with wisps just sucks, maybe next trial

visual basin
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Why have prismatic trials suddenly become 10x more stupid ever since artifacts were added

hazy locust
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has anyone done it with Loader?

glass yew
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i think a few people have

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scroll up you might find the conversation @hazy locust

obsidian hinge
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Grab repulsion armor plate (? one) from the multishop with 2 fireworks and ? option left of the start lets you take few hits from lesser wisps

drowsy saffron
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thanks to cabbage's video i managed to do it. not too bad just gotta learn the iframes on merc. and remember that with all the dashes you can outrun the jellies.

south sphinx
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i was trying to get the ethereal with merc for 5 hours T-T

teal tinsel
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i was able to get 4:17 with huntress . (as of posting 61st)
no buy - optimise dashing - using ballista
this run has some issues with consistency as the last jellyfish is in the caves. (sometimes it comes out, other times not)
I think i could get the time down by 1-5 seconds by being more efficient when moving, but the run is too inconsistent and icba

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I tried it with acrid and think its possible to do a slightly faster.
no buy - use blight
the dashes could be slightly faster but the one issues is its much harder.
I got a 4:23 with acrid after 5 attempts.

gleaming yarrow
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For the life of me, I cannot seem to duplicate Cabbage's prismatic run.

split crown
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any tips on beating my first one?

gleaming yarrow
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Engineer, take it slow

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Welp, wind blades just may not be for me.

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Shame.

delicate grove
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which part are you having trouble with?

gleaming yarrow
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Very beginning.

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Trial is doable, to be sure

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But its coming down to hoping the wisps spawn in the perfect place to avoid

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And thats not a challenge, thats rng

delicate grove
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just make sure you always have either one of the dash attacks available at any given time and it should be easy

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wait for wisps to begin their charge up before attacking them etc

gleaming yarrow
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With how it's been for me, that's way easier said than done.

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But it is always right when I get to the fireworks, or right when I get to the preon

solemn hull
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Wisps can very easily nick you inbetween i-frames

gleaming yarrow
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The extra spawning wisps just take me out

solemn hull
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Especially considering their perfect tracking up until what feels like only the very last frame, you're going to get caught eventually.

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not to mention those wisps that spawn already shooting at you

gleaming yarrow
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But, I dunno. I can't put time into knocking out a challenge thats settled by rng.

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Things change, maybe it'll get adjusted later.

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Just not worth the headache.

south sphinx
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finally did it ;-;

obsidian marsh
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@south sphinx alot easier than you thought huh

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Took me 3 tries and all I had was ukelele (on console so I can't use artifacts to help me)

south sphinx
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That was not easy ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

loud lantern
#

i literally cannot beat the jellyfish. its my first trial and i have done everything so far w/o help, but ive been trying for like 2 hours

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what did others do just to beat it, not for a speedrun

south sphinx
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reposting from before

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this helps

quaint pewter
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@south sphinx got that wallpaper from your earlier screenshot?

south sphinx
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found it on google

arctic drum
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is this prismatic trial harder or easier than average to complete ethereal?

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like it seems difficult but I would think it's easier than average considering the only enemies are one-shottable wisps and jellies

indigo snow
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@gleaming yarrow For the record Trials is the only part of the game that isn't RNG-based

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Everything that spawns is seeded for the timestamp

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Stuff like crits is random but that's why most runners don't really get items like Lens cuz then they'd have to crit farm and that sucks

gleaming yarrow
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Carefully paid more attention to Cabbage's behavior and mimicked as best I could.

visual ore
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Is anyone else really bummed about them taking metamorphosis out of prismatic trials?

cyan stratus
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no i don't think so

indigo snow
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If it was seeded, then cool

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But just based on rng it was bad

undone solar
#

probably people would just restart until they got the survivor they wanted
or they would be forced to play one specific survivor no matter what (supposing that the RNG from metamorphosis would also be affected by the Prismatic Trial seed)

indigo snow
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Enigma would probably suck too

cinder garden
#

god wisps are unfun to try to get ethereal around

opal tundra
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isnt metamorphosis also rng? with a fixed seed the only change it would make, is you dont play the same survivor in the two stages

prisma crest
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i wish they brought back like that one seed back when skills 2.0 was released that just had a brooch printer at stage 1. would make my life easier

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i'm surprised there isnt a restart button yet after 1 year

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holy shit this is so annoying

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this is annoying for me, someone who dosent even play prismatic trials, imagine how frustrating it must be for the people that actually play this

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wait... were prismatic trials changed? i killed the teleporter boss but i still cant go through the tp..

prime snow
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you get used to the cbt

prisma crest
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i got hit by a wisp 1 second after it spawned. this is fair

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almost got ethereal... only didnt get it because i dashed into a blazing jellyfish and it survived the dash and i took 2 dmg from the fire trail. fuck

wary shuttle
#

Keep going, hopefully you seen cabbages vid

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It took me bout an hour

prisma crest
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thank god for the green vegetable thing fruit i dont know

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i think it actually took me about the same time as it took for the first ish prismatic trial seed of skills 2.0

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both took me bout an hour for ethereal

gaunt citrus
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@quaint pewter u can also use it animated from wallpaper engine

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the cloud on the bottom left for or the stones all around are in the foreground and it picture moves with your mouse ^^

tough belfry
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i'm not good enough for even 3x speed ethereal rip

cyan stratus
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nah 2x already took me like 20 tries 3x is probably rng lol

tough belfry
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when the wisps spawn faster than i can react there's not much i can do

cyan stratus
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prediction

delicate grove
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for a 3rd backup magazine aswell

cyan stratus
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i was panicked in a menu which does not reflect my normal thought process

delicate grove
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did you want another crit glasses?

cyan stratus
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i just wanted something dude idk it's a shiny object on the ground

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maybe a warbanner so there's more visual cancer

delicate grove
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legit the hardest thing about 20 stages is the amount of stuff on screen

cyan stratus
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no it's just the crabs and magma worms before stage 6

delicate grove
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put swarm and soul on

cyan stratus
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??

delicate grove
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swarm makes you basically do double damage

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soul keeps topaz up if you have it

cyan stratus
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yea but early game i dont want as many spawns so i can conserve tincure charges before i'm at 5

delicate grove
#

fair enough

tiny forge
#

Woahj

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this is an AMAZING prismatic trial for ethereal

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I did it on my 2nd go

hasty solstice
#

this fucking achievement has made me play mercenary more than the other 8 survivors combined

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and all for a downgrade of an ability

tiny forge
#

wow I'd rather have the I-Frames rather than an inferior projectile.

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well

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at least we don't have to worry abotu this challenge anymore.

leaden ibex
#

@cyan stratus Thank you for the video/route, I was able to get the challenge with this ! And twice !

slim lintel
#

metamorphosis was seeded I thought, the trial we had it I always got the same chars

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or was only the 1st stage consistent I never bothered to complete s1 that trial

visual ore
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It made you play merc for both stages

languid sphinx
#

this is making me lose all the sanity i thought i had

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all i want is a new ninja power is that to much to ask

gray scaffold
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yes

languid sphinx
#

it is done

tiny forge
#

Congrats

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๐Ÿ‘

rough cedar
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how the hell do I do this with 14 hp

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and no OSP

night ginkgo
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dodge. xD

rough cedar
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but its wisps

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THE TIME CRYSTAL LITERALLY KILLS YOU

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rigged

night ginkgo
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i didnt do this trial haha

rough cedar
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im thinking engineer and just abuse shield

night ginkgo
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yep why not, but i hate playing engi so that's definitly not for me

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looks pretty easy with merc

tough belfry
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easy with anyone

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probably easiest with huntress

night ginkgo
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yeh

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even etheral is really easy here

hushed meadow
#

knocked it out ez with huntress, grab rocket drone, armor and equipment on forst stage run to portal

rough cedar
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im pissed

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the tele was available on second stage and I got oneshot out of nowhere

night ginkgo
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oh shiiiit

arctic drum
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tbh this one wasn't terribly hard considering how hard the achievement can be with some maps

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just have to know a few things like afking in the tar pit, waiting in the cave for the jellies, etc.

gray scaffold
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Do the trials get reused sometimes?

slim lintel
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yeah sometimes the maps are the same but all the item placements are different

modern light
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I'm so bad at this game kill me plz Tearstorm

warped lynx
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Hey, a noob here. What method do you guys recommend to complete this Trial with Merc. I can do it easy enough with Huntress but I just started playing and going for the Mercenary: Ethereal challenge

tough belfry
warped lynx
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thx

zenith plinth
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How do I even do the achievement for this

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its impossible I'm telling you.

sacred lotus
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am I the only one who has the last jellyfish spawn inside the terrain or something? I can never find the last one

solar sluice
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sometimes they spawn in the cave underground

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outside of the area

hallow spoke
gusty nexus
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So many huntress

indigo snow
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Best character

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You see

slim lintel
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I like huntress now that she can kill herself I relate to the character a lot better now

ripe lantern
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But you haven't died yet

hallow spoke
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I love relying on fish AI to determine on how my run with turn out..... 2 jelly fish keep getting stuck in the same location and its starting to annoy me

wheat adder
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I thought enge would be decent on this trial until I realized how small the range is for secondary turrets

cyan stratus
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lol i decided to try all artifacts again and got malachite mushrooms on stage 6 which reminded me why i stopped that

wheat adder
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I'd have to really rack my brain to think what I can do to improve on it

cyan stratus
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you can save 40 seconds by going faster

wheat adder
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woah

fierce veldt
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Not sure if this goes here or #ror2-game-questions, but can monster logs drop in prismatic trials? If so, are they seeded?

cyan stratus
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yes and no

native sable
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cabbage ty for your video btw

cyan stratus
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np my guy

tender hull
#

Huntress is hella nice now

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What some fire rate and cooldown reduction does

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Alt m1 is brutal once you start racking up on crits

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But dont think you can get a lot of crits in 2 stages lmao

median anvil
#

how's today prismatic trial for mercenary unlock?

slim lintel
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p

cunning dawn
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Feels doable on Xbox c':

quiet hawk
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woo sub 4:30 time.

fathom bay
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i did this with engineer super easy, im a total trash can and i couldnt even do it with mercenary or huntress

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i wanna do the mercenary challenge just because but i doubt its worth it

elder imp
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i gave up, i had a lot of bad time with those wisps shooting at me and in my opinion its not worth it.

quiet hawk
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this is one of the easier trials to get merc ethereal imo]

ashen glen
#

how do you unlock artifacts/modifiers for use in prismatic trials?

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i just got back after a while and i want to aim for the ethereal achievement

sick mural
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prismatic trials have them automatically

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you unlock the artifacts for regular runs

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there is a pinned video in this chat that shows a good strat for the current trial ethereal

slate inlet
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after the wisps its easy

lapis musk
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how do u guys do stage 1 do u ballista the 2 crystals then rush the one next to tp without buying anything or what

tough belfry
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to go fast yes

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to complete the trial there's a preon near spawn and an armor plate in the ? by the crystals

lapis musk
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i did the trial by getting preon and rushing tp without the plate hmm

tough belfry
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ok ye that works too

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if you're going fast then the only time that matters is how fast you kill crystals and reach tele because of tp charge

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so items aren't worth it

lapis musk
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ye but the wisp stage is so grr

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i hate it so much

tough belfry
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if you use the place in cabbage's video it's ez

lapis musk
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naw i didnt watch a vid yet

spiral gazelle
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i did a trial before and i complete them normally not easy not hard but this trial is too hard i keep getting one shot

normal edge
#

I did it pretty easy with engineer

reef wigeon
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THIS IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

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I'M SO TRIGGERED

gray scaffold
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i feel like this one is easy

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but i never played any different trial so idk

odd flax
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Its not too hard

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Vix you tried using engi?

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and getting the missile drone?

gray scaffold
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i feel like huntress is the best

spiral gazelle
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I trying to use mercenary so I can get his achievement in the same time

odd flax
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^

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the wisps are a nigthmare lol

gray scaffold
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i mean that is supposed to be hard

spiral gazelle
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Wisp is stupid

odd flax
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they seem to always peg me

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until they've hit me once, then they miss every shot lol

gray scaffold
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i mean there is a pinned video on how to kinda do it

spiral gazelle
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The damage make no sense one moment they don't instant kill me the next the game say" let's instant kill u now"

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Even doh I full health

zenith plinth
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Got 5:16.10

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Iโ€™m in top 1000

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What is the top 10%?

gray scaffold
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nobody knows

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i know there is at least 4K ppl tho

odd flax
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Just failed the second stage at 99% lol

zenith plinth
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what happened to the trials?

runic crater
elfin plinth
#

huh ok

zenith plinth
#

Damn that means I need to get top 400

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Iโ€™ve been tryna go for perfect runs

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Very very hard

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Those wisps on the first teleporter are a slight bit overpowered in that situation

boreal storm
#

Pretty happy, I just got a 4:30.06 run. Rank number 291 lol

tough belfry
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you don't get anything for top 10%

late socket
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its not that the wisps are overpowered. It's because THERE'RE WISPS

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One fart in your direction = kiss your Merc challenge goodbye

elfin palm
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Took around 200 attempts but got ethereal, followed the pinned video except for the second tele event, just kited them back and forth with shift

polar fern
#

I did it

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After full last night trying in my way, I've seen, how it did one guy from internet and I've did it from 10 try

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I didn't know about little cliff in hole near the portal on first location and was trying to hide from infinite Wisp behind the rock

shrewd thistle
#

thank you, cabbage-sensei

waxen pagoda
#

I wanna try walking turrets on it

waxen pagoda
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oh cool

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whisps can still fire while they are dying

candid fern
polar fern
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Congratulation!

peak cobalt
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I don't even understand how you pass the first boss with another char than the Engineer

cyan stratus
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would anyone watch if i streamed ethereal on the new trial in 2 hours?

peak cobalt
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interessing but too late for me

slim lintel
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just start streaming it, clip the clear dl it and upload it to youtube 2 birds 1 stone

tough belfry
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if i'm not sleeping i'll watch

cyan stratus
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ok

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lol i made a script to auto-remove ethereal and it corrupted my profile instead

slim lintel
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nice

thorny magnet
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ive been trying to get merc's ability since glass is turned on, but i keep getting sniped by the wisps. any tips for beating it?

zenith plinth
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reee ive managed to charge the first tp without taking damage

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but now im scared about getting hit if I jump out from the pit

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yeah fuck this. best chance to do it overshadowed by most bullshit enemy in thegame

odd flax
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There's a missile drone you can grab behind you at spawn location

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It'll clear out all the wisps during tp event and helps on 2nd stage as well, but sometimes dies

cyan stratus
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if you're about to get hit you can just move out of the way to not get hit

zenith plinth
#

bruh how we're talking about lesser wisps here

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i don't know how they can remain the way they are despite most people complaining about them ever since launch

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it's been over a year by this point

odd flax
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The missile drone makes it a lot easier.

slim lintel
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as merc (mercenary) from the game risk of rain 2 you have 2 mobility skills with hefty iframes (invincibility frames (you can't get hit)) these can be used to dodge literally anything in the entirety of the video game risk of rain 2, you can even use a well timed M2 to dodge wisp shots so in conclusion don't get hit

zenith plinth
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you're just going to ignore all the other survivors in the game, and one of the pillars of the first game (when you die it is YOUR fault not the game's) being a complete and total victim to rng

odd flax
#

Not every character is going to be good at everything

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Especially not in a trial with random artifacts lol

red sable
#

they're good in different areas

zenith plinth
#

My point with "you're just going to ignore the other survivors" is WTF are you supposed to do to avoid getting hit by wisps as them? every enemy in the first game had well-telegraphed and easy to avoid attacks provided that you paid attention, something that this game doesn't at all follow with lesser wisps

prime snow
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shoot them first or kite around with cooldowns

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that should cover all the other survivors

slim lintel
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commando can outrange them and dodge with roll/slide, mult sucks, engi can shield or waggle his screen around like an idiot with the javelins, huntress can just huntress, arti can fly above everythings aggro range, acrid can run away like a little bitch and shoot poison every char has at least some way to deal with everything

zenith plinth
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they literally snipe you with a shotgun blast

odd flax
#

The wisps have a charging animation and sound

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If they're killing you it's because you're reacting too slowly or your skills are on CD

zenith plinth
#

The animation is barely visible when enough is going on, their little telegraphing laser always looks like baby powder over a laser pointer

which is a STARK and much WORSE difference when compared to a golem laser considering that lesser wisps are runkillers most of the time

red sable
#

what's yall fav character and why?? what do they bring that you prefer that other characters don't bring??

slim lintel
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my favorite character to play as is the lesser wisp

zenith plinth
#

commando is my end all be all, he has much more utility than other survivors

odd flax
#

The Common lesser wisp

prime snow
#

clay pot

cyan stratus
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wisps make a lot of sound, you can hear them spawn, hear their movement become more aggressive when aggro'd so you know if they're aggro'd even if you don't see it, hear it charge up its attack, etc. there's a lot you can do to not get hit by one and even then they don't do that much damage so i dont see why they're a problem

slim lintel
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cabbage when are you going to complete the all relics monsoon CE as the jellyfish

red sable
#

huh, I always thought of commando as attuned to beginner players (not that I mean to offend) but I haven't met someone who prefers commando :0

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what's your fav commando loadout?

cyan stratus
#

which jellyfish

zenith plinth
#

The problem with wisps is that

You cannot hide from them
When they charge their attack all you can do is pray in vain that it will miss you if you make a last second sudden movement
They begin to shoot you the moment they spawn
They scale horrifically
They very easily overwhelm you

slim lintel
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bab jellyfish, gotta do the whole thing without attacking

tough belfry
#

just kill the wisps lol

odd flax
#

Why not just shoot them first

cyan stratus
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you can hide from them by going behind terrain, you know exactly when they're going to fire if you get used to the sound effect so you can move quickly at the last second, they begin to shoot you the moment they spawn but that's not an issue since you can just react to it, and i don't know about scaling because i don't play this game

zenith plinth
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Moving at the last second doesn't save any survivor but merc

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And only if he abuses iframes

prime snow
#

you can dodge it with huntress dash even

cyan stratus
#

all characters have a movement ability except engi, no?

odd flax
#

@red sable I don't really have a favourite, who's yours?

slim lintel
#

their scaling is completely fine, I've never ran in to a extremely bullet spongey wisp

zenith plinth
#

Their sponginess isn't what makes them OP, it's their damage

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They fire 3 shots and in lategame that's an instant KO since OSP has no buffer

slim lintel
#

by the time their damage matters you should have so many proc items they're never alive more than .1 second

tough belfry
#

hahahahah OSP

odd flax
#

Time for ThSP

zenith plinth
#

haha funny word only glass spammers use it amirite???

slim lintel
#

hell by the time their damage would matter they flat out quit spawning because the game has credits for bigger enemies

delicate grove
#

im proud to be a glass spammer

red sable
#

Imma be honest, I'm still learning the strengths of each character even though I'm comfortable in monsoon runs I still need to know more about characters before atm tho I I'm playing rex and I've warmed up to artificer and merc more lately than before, @odd flax

tough belfry
#

my question is how tf does anyone like commando

thin timber
#

With the Alt skills he's pretty fun

prime snow
#

hes very default dan, always at least decent in anyones hands

odd flax
#

Ah, I played rex the first time today, sniping with the M2 is really satisfying :D @red sable

tough belfry
#

i haven't got alt skills so idk about them but the basic stuff seems objectively worse than other characters

odd flax
#

Something about commando has always felt really lame to me, it's like he has no impact compared to the others

zenith plinth
#

Commando has 2 utilities that have a lot of different uses

He may have aggressive damage dropoff but that doesn't put him out of the game at range unlike merc acrid or loader

His alt M2 is disgustingly good and an objective upgrade over the default

His OG R is guaranteed stun and scales with attack speed

His alt R is incredible for crowd control and is really fun to use when combined with behemoth

There are zero items that are objectively bad on him (that you would equip on any other survivor)

red sable
#

true that I like it 2, although I don't like the limit on shaped glass due to the characters rellience on health

slim lintel
#

alt skill commando is actually nice, default commando is a turd sucker

tough belfry
#

what is alt m2

thin timber
#

Shotgun

slim lintel
#

a double blast shotgun

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does 1200? % I think

tough belfry
#

is it good for killing lots of small enemies since that's what he seems to really suck at early game

thin timber
#

8x200%

slim lintel
#

no his alt R is for aoe, 2 grenades

zenith plinth
#

yes it is disgustingly good and they don't seem to give a fuck that it's an objective upgrade to make his OG any better

thin timber
#

Alt Shift is a slide during which you can shoot but only works on the ground. in air it's a tiny jetpack boost. Also a very fun skill

zenith plinth
#

Yeah they upped the damage but it's still dog, imo the damage should go back down and it should be 2 shots like his alt is. Which would make sense since his whole shtick is shooting 2 guns

red sable
#

press ctrl on ground then immediately press jump XD fun

zenith plinth
#

the artifacts update has made me leaps and bounds more happier and positive about this game but there are still multiple IMO fundamental flaws that have still yet to be tackled such as lunar items, lesser wisps, character progression challenges, prismatic trials as a whole, and clay templars

tough belfry
#

delet lunars

red sable
#

@zenith plinth are you good at essays? I feel like that's a talent you posses

slim lintel
#

delet lunars

zenith plinth
#

I get good grades on them but hate myself doing them

unborn whale
#

same

red sable
#

yeah

#

I feel that essays sukk

slim lintel
#

they already fixed clay templars, just quit ignoring items like stun nades and the new armor scrap

zenith plinth
#

just stack teddies drizzle_hmm

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because that's the answer to every fundamental problem with the enemies in this game

unborn whale
#

just don't be there

prime snow
#

imagine preparing to fight enemies

tough belfry
#

imagine leaving the spawn pod

odd flax
#

Safe, warm, and sticky

zenith plinth
#

lunars don't have to be deleted but i think it's clear that glass artifact proves shaped glass does not need OSP

corpsebloom is still the worst item in the game with a healing cap that just shouldn't exist

lesser wisps shouldnt be shotguns

templars shouldnt be able to track so fast

tough belfry
#

might be because you play commando that you hate templars

delicate grove
#

would you rather lesser wisps did all their damage in a single hit

zenith plinth
#

preferably yes because then I'd have a better chance to dodge it

prime snow
#

they have a dmg value of 4 +(.8 x level) in a 3 burst of 150% of that

#

per laser

zenith plinth
#

I know the strat to fight templars, that doesn't discount them from being the most dangerous enemy in the game as seen in a community poll here

thin timber
#

Armor Plating tho

tough belfry
#

i'd never say they're the most dangerous

zenith plinth
#

well the community would disagree with you

tough belfry
#

but i only play characters with good movement

cyan stratus
#

i survived clay templars on stage 5 on all artifacts with 15 teddy bears and 11 armor plates

delicate grove
#

scavenger is prob most dangerous tbh

zenith plinth
#

you didn't NEED hermit's scarf or chargefield generator or tough times to avoid damage in the first game, so why are monsters in the sequel suddenly so item dependent? What happened to being able to avoid shots entirely by skill alone

tough belfry
#

i much prefer this to the first game

#

where you just jumped to not get hit

zenith plinth
#

missile, overloading, and explosive elites though

tough belfry
#

having to make a build to counter specific enemies is not a bad thing tonhave in the game

zenith plinth
#

it absolutely is when we're talking about a game that blames YOU for dying in contrast to other roguelikes or difficult games where you can blame the game

tough belfry
#

using your brain is better than not using your brain

delicate grove
#

why would you want to blame the game

tough belfry
#

also i blame ror2 for all my deaths

zenith plinth
#

I don't want to, but a lot of deaths in this game compared to the first are complete bullshit

#

It feels as though there is a much lower skill ceiling in this game than the first where it should be the complete opposite because in the first one you only had to worry about your left and right sides, and many more items were incredibly strong

slim lintel
#

teddies are awful game design make them armor instead of a random fuck you chance

zenith plinth
#

you have said yourselves that people's best shots at getting ethereal is by having one of the iframe skills always at the ready but why should we even need iframes to be able to complete that challenge? There was a challenge for miner where you had to get to level 9 without being hit once, and miner doesn't have any i-frames.

prime snow
#

ror 1 didnt have hit scan

tough belfry
#

ror1 was 2d

zenith plinth
#

ror1 didnt have hit scan
that's a hyperthink

tough belfry
#

when you can see everything obviously it's easier to dodge

prime snow
#

not nearly to the same degree at least

#

your complaining over lesser wisps if you wanna get hyperthinking

#

miner was also super mobile

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and rewarded your aggro by killing the things thatd be hitting you

zenith plinth
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merc is super mobile, so why does he need iframes

prime snow
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because its 3d so youre gonna get swarmed in 360 degrees by many hitscan enemies

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you dont even have to use it as iframe if you really dont want to

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go use it to hide behind rocks

slim lintel
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and miner doesn't have any i-frames.
you what

zenith plinth
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you still haven't done anything to disprove the things I have said about lesser wisps, all you have done is laugh.

They swarm you
They are aggressive the moment they spawn
They are hitscan shotguns
They have incredible range and accuracy once they are aggrod

prime snow
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because its hilarious

slim lintel
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I played a lot of miner in ror1 they're my fav char and I vividly remember them having 2 cases of iframes

prime snow
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they die to me farting irl

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theyre a swarm pressure unit thats easy to deal with as long as youre dealing with them

tough belfry
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if you're not stacking glass you'll never die to wisps, delet lunars is the easiest solution

prime snow
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you cant complain about balance in 4 hour runs either, its supposed to be crazy because youre supposed to be crazy

slim lintel
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in my experiences wisps completely stop showing up around 1 hour 30 mins~

zenith plinth
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their strength in long runs is a side effect of one of their primary problems

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which is being a shotgun that you cannot see when enough is happening

and depending on which elite type you get, they will still manage to pull off their M1 despite you hitting them

prime snow
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if youre getting smashed with too much to see, you should retreat and pick some off and cool the situation down

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otherwise, youre playing merc and should be relishing the chaos

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elite wisps still die near instantly, and guillotine ruined elites if you want my personal opinion

zenith plinth
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malachites and celestines are still very relevant even with guillotine stacks

prime snow
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then theyre doing their job if theyre issues

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enemies to have roles to fulfill and its up to you to squash them anyways

slim lintel
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by the time malachites and celestines start spawning you should either have enough movement speed items or attack speed items to either get to a safe range or yeet them in to a wall through sheer firepower

zenith plinth
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but again: yes, item make enemy trivial, yes, i know, that's how this game works

how does that make ethereal any less of a bullshit challenge when you can't play the macro game

cyan stratus
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??

prime snow
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challenge

slim lintel
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because its seeded and really not that hard

zenith plinth
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sorry, rng*

slim lintel
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you know exactly what to expect

prime snow
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even the random rng you can literally just kill them

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ive ran this tons of times streaming for friends showing them how to get ethereal because i truly believed this to be one of the easiest weve had in a long time

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if you cant kill maybe 7 wisps total without getting hit as merc

zenith plinth
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I agree, it could have been easy if it werent for wisps on first stage

prime snow
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idk man

zenith plinth
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you may be a weeaboo genji main but that doesnt mean you can snipe people with your sword before you complete that challenge

prime snow
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i literally havent played merc until now since i got ethereal when the challenge came out

delicate grove
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when i did it there were at most 3 wisps near me, excluding the boss fight

prime snow
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i wipe my save often cause i like the rush of unlocking achievements

cyan stratus
slim lintel
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cabbage is one of the least weeb people in this entire discord and he's done basically every trial since ethereal came out

prime snow
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another kin honor and monster items

tough belfry
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i can't see

prime snow
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they turn to wisps when they die

zenith plinth
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artifact of soul

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no bueno

prime snow
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looks like its gonna be impossible huh

slim lintel
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lmao this one is free

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beetles s1 and 2nd stage doesnt exist

prime snow
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map 2 is meadow

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lmao yeah

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and equip for speed run

zenith plinth
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oh hey these wisps eventually despawn

prime snow
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rip blazing trail

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didnt dash high enough to stay off ground

zenith plinth
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HuntressThink how tf you avoid tracer mains

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bruh i just fucking spawned

tough belfry
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it seems twitch doesn't want me to watch :(

prime snow
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cabbage already almost got his cut for ethereal, accidentally touched blazing at very end

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hes lookin for items around map again

zenith plinth
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fr how do you avoid probes

prime snow
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tears

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lots of them

zenith plinth
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ok buddy

prime snow
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thats prob gonna be the run killer for a lot of people

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eh, you still get by in vase

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i was thinking maybe dodge it by grabbing fuel cell, get away and then vase to artifact

zenith plinth
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would that work?

prime snow
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theyre hitting me in vase still so nah

zenith plinth
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yeah vase is still kind of an ass equipment for that reason

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if we can't attack while we're in it but we still take damage why bother making us appear intangible

prime snow
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if you were invincible though

teal violet
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this new trial looks ripe for mercenary achievement

prime snow
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you could just bounce back and forth and avoid playing the game

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map 2 is meadow so thats great, probe might be a problem right next to spawn

zenith plinth
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nobody would pick it up over disposable, preon or capacitor even if that were the case

prime snow
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looking for solutions

zenith plinth
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is there a shadowfade drop anywhere

prime snow
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im gonna go spin around on loader and look

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shrine of mountain, will see what boss changes to

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not seeing any lunar pods

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no shadowfade, also cabbage didnt get bothered by probe so maybe bit of rng there

cyan stratus
slim lintel
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you can record and stream at the same time as well

cyan stratus
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what

prime snow
teal violet
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hey theres me

prime snow
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saw my chance and took it

teal violet
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wait my discord isnt the same name nvm

prime snow
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sub 3 is def possible, my movement is bad and accidentally left 1st portal a couple times

zenith plinth
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oh is stage 2 always gonna be a different monster type

cyan stratus
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no

zenith plinth
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how did you get lemmies when probes spawned when i did it

cyan stratus
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changes with time

zenith plinth
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does that mean i can get something more favorable if i wait until the next difficulty "chunk"

prime snow
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yeah

zenith plinth
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oh hey

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one of em might drop a glacial equipment

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b r u h

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i waited until the third chunk of "easy"

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and got solus probes again

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w h a t

cyan stratus
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twitch -> youtube export actually works pretty well

keen grove
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thanks

zenith plinth
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i couldnt use vase but i managed to geyser across the map so i just hopped down to artifact zone

prime snow
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i think geyser blocks vase

crude vector
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i watched that video from the mercenary a couple back and im trying to do that but when i try to do the artifact teleporter it doesnt work... can someone tell me why

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nvm i got it i was putting in the wrong code lol

hazy locust
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Yo, can someone explain Merc's iframes? Can I safely dash through fire enemies or not?

delicate grove
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using eviscerate on fire enemies is a safer option

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but p sure you can blinding assault them if you hit them at the correct angle/height

zenith plinth
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flamey boys hurt by simply touching you so ideally if you use blinding assault you want them to be real close and you want to aim up so you hit them but dont run into them or their trail

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you guys also prob knew this but you can have flamey beetles finish off those crystals from a safe distance too

clever mountain
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I think I can manage a sub4 for this one

solemn fiber
zenith plinth
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oof

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i went from 14 to 38

clever mountain
keen grove
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dude on the second stage It didnt spawn lemurians and spawn eye lazer bois

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I still did it tho which is good, thats a heads up for ppl

clever mountain
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time

trim meadow
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why am i getting solus probes

clever mountain
delicate grove
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I wonder if the 2:33 with huntress is legit

zenith plinth
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@trim meadow u took too long

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grab preon behind you
rush TP, clump up the boys and preon them
quickly get to cover while the wisps eventually die
finish charging tp ASAP (like get out of there within 3:15)
optional: get eccentric vase

if you're fast enough, sky meadows' enemies will be lemurians, much easier than solus probes.
quickly get across the stage and over to the computer or use the vase to get across
From there punch in an artifact code and enter the protal

cyan stratus
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wait there was a preon lol

zenith plinth
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ye it's on the log over the ledge behind u

trim meadow
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I did it

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yeah there was preon

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i didnt even grab the vase

clever mountain
left mantle
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This one is annoying but easy.

amber mural
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Where can I find this leaderboard?

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@here

hollow prawn
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how do you destroy crystals as loader

zinc nest
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punch them

hollow prawn
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true

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sorry i kept thinking it was glass

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forgot a new one was out

amber mural
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Where are the leaderboards?

hollow prawn
amber mural
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How do I submit? @hollow prawn

hollow prawn
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Just play

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once you finish a run it should show up

amber mural
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I just got a 2:23:35

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Iโ€™m on PlayStation that might make a difference

hollow prawn
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oh probably yeah

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what character did you use

amber mural
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Loader

marsh siren
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I can't kill all these damn probes on 2

hollow prawn
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wait whats up with this glitched rock

minor abyss
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solus probes

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i'm livid

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thought i'd finally have an easy one to get Merc's unlock

hollow prawn
pseudo vine
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I got Mercโ€™s special unlock on this, wasnโ€™t actually that bad, didnโ€™t take long.

gleaming coral
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yeah super easy

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just cheese the first TP by letting them seppuku. Then just activate artifact TP and boom, donezo ezpz

minor abyss
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oh i forgot about the artifact tp

minor abyss
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that actually saved me

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thank you i owe you my life

gleaming coral
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<3

lucid bobcat
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E>

royal obsidian
dawn saddle
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Cannot seem to get my time under 4mins for the first stage, Solus Probes snag me every time.

gleaming coral
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@dawn saddle what class are you using?

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Id try and grab the first active item chest next to the first crystal. It has a Eccentric Vase which is good for the first stages crystal and good for stage 2 artifact cheese

dawn saddle
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Merc, following the link posted.

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Found out Fire Elite trails can break the crystals, which can mess with the gold you earn.

gleaming coral
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But just 1st close crystal, Eccentric to far crystal, kill crystals on the way to tp. either strand on pipe and be patient, or be ballsy

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you dont need any gold, starting 50 is plenty.

dawn saddle
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Don't need any gold?

gleaming coral
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no why would you?

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you can just kite the beetles to jump off stage 1. And stage 2 you just ignore and rush artifact teleporter, no crystals or enemy kills needed

dawn saddle
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Hm.

gleaming coral
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you can even kite them all off the map to their death while completely in the zone

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just use the pipe, its opieop

dawn saddle
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Welp

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That was easy.

gleaming coral
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ye, see. no gold needed, good stuff famalam

dawn saddle
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Here I am, getting spit on by Wisps, following an item route, when I can just ungabguna.

frank dawn
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Ive taken two damage an Im mad

dawn saddle
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I caught a Lemurian fireball to the ankle as I set up the Vase.

frank dawn
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Oh shit, that'd be good to get to the thing

dawn saddle
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It's in the equipment barrel near the cave where you spawn

frank dawn
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I know and I just stepped in fire and fuck this challenge

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This is a dumb unlock amd it should be changed

dawn saddle
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Oh, I agree. Even to 80-90% HP would be much nicer. But I'll happily cheese it.

gleaming coral
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yeah this is the easiest challenge ina long long time

dawn saddle
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Start. Grab Vase, break three crystals using Ultimate, start teleporter, stand on pipe, wobble a bit till all bosses fall off, jump up onto tower in middle to wait out rest of teleporter, stage 1 done.

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Then it's just not getting sniped by Lemurians as you take your choice of path to the Artifact Teleporter.

zenith plinth
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I feel like it'd probably be a good idea to get a decent grasp of his play style before attempting this

frank dawn
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For me its solus probes stage 2

dawn saddle
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I'm done the first stage in under three minutes abusing the ledge.

frank dawn
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I dont feel like doing this anymore tbh

dawn saddle
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No harm in taking a break. Got a good 65HRs before the trial changes.

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Thanks for enlightening me on the Ledge Strat, Noll!

gleaming coral
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yeah if youre too slow you get probes

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and thats a giga rip

frank dawn
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The vase couldnt reach

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What happens when you get through the gate?

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Oh, nothing

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Cool

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Fuck this challenge still

gleaming coral
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you can reach but you gotta be kinda close

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you can even just jump off the map and use it and insta jump in

zinc nest
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im having trouble getting sub 3 minutes

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anyone got tips?

jaunty wing
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What artifact to choose for merc challenge ?

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chaos ?

prime snow
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game chooses for you

jaunty wing
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kay

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oh, i see now, thanks !

prime snow
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theres a preon accumulator that spawns behind you, you can just use that to clear teleporter map 1. this ones mostly about not blowing yourself up on crystals and not accidentally touching a blazing

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map 2 you can go under and hit the artifact gate

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some people are getting solus probes map 2, im not sure about what timing getting to map 2 is causing that but either going faster or slowing down, theres lumerians that you can get instead which makes it a lot easier

jaunty wing
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Got it, thanks

obsidian hinge
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Enough attempts for now. Using the pipe to lure beetles down is godsend for huntress who can't seem to target boss beetles when there are tons of other beetles.

zenith plinth
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50 sec cheater?

obsidian hinge
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Most likely since tele charge is 90 sec on stage 1

zinc nest
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same with those 2 mercs

prime snow
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charge time takes 90 sec

vestal rain
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Likely commando too

native sable
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this trial is super easy to do the merc thingy on

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thanks guys!

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for anyone struggling, just sit on the pipe next to the teleporter stage 1. I didnt even need anything else. Just walk around it, the beetles will slowly fall off. Jump to the rock if any beetles get close.

Stage 2, just bumrush the artifact thing. Once you're down there nothing follows you or spawns, so you just need to input any artifact code and go in.

hollow parcel
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preon is pretty useful for the hoard of beetles if you can aim it correctly

gleaming coral
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make sure you get the eccentric vase

hollow parcel
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i hopped on a spire and fired it straight down, it killed most of the wisps

native sable
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Why was the vase needed?

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I had it but didnt need it

gleaming coral
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nah vase is much better, you dont need the damage. they just jump off. vase is nice to get to the artifact zone faster and safer

native sable
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ohhh

gleaming coral
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you can get sub 3 on all characters with it pretty much

mighty crescent
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I double jumped at the end and took fall damage as the artifact portal opened

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I'm gonna sue myself

thin timber
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Honor or Dissonance are probably the fastest codes to type in huh

native sable
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yeah honor is super fast

gleaming coral
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yeah lot of the speed is typing in the code haha

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all squares and a triangle

zinc nest
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honestly that commando is either hacking or just using all the tech

gleaming coral
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nah cheating, teleporter event is 90 seconds. So unless there is a way to progress the time of the tp without progressing trial time

zinc nest
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90 seconds is a minute 30

gleaming coral
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nah 22 seconds to go from spawns to portals is also nutty

polar fern
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so, you think, that first place - cheater

elfin plinth
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first place is always a cheater

polar fern
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I remember screenshot, where on first place was hopoo with very little time

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0:01, if I am not mistaken

indigo snow
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I'm not too late