prismatic-trials

[slim lintel]

Acrid really doesn't have a fun kit for trials

[vapid sierra]

acrid isn't too much speedrun soo yeah

[slim lintel]

its no so much about it being un-optimal (which it is) but just being unfun

[vapid sierra]

the max you can do is like, use his alt leap, because you will need to deliver damage fast

[slim lintel]

default is probably better in trial

unless theres consistent enemy group setups

[vapid sierra]

idk, I think alt is better, because you will be just jumping on enemies everytime to try to do it the fastest as you can, soo yeah

[zenith plinth]

I know he isn't the greatest pick for the PT, I just did a bleeding camp build and only got a 5:47

which is obv slow but probably fastest for acrid

[slim lintel]

it has a fair bit longer cd, the time you'll save being able to jump more between crystal is going to be more than you save from the potential slight % increase of damage you'd get from the alt

[vapid sierra]

idk both are good I guess

I think your best friend is going to be backup mags or thinks like that

just spam everything

[zenith plinth]

yeah I had a single back up and bleed and thats all I needed

I got goat foot and some healing stuff on the way and got a 5:47

I just don't see it being faster on this seed

[slim lintel]

good lord pandemic can't even do anything to crystals lmao

[zenith plinth]

maybe a little mor optimal movement and thats it

[slim lintel]

idk what this trial is like but basically every char should be able to get at LEAST sub 3:30 esp acrid

[cyan stratus]

@pearl eagle 3:34 ??

[zenith plinth]

hmm ill keep trying then

[pearl eagle]

I had to get the rex ability

Please don't hurt my feelings

Thanks

[cyan stratus]

i did 1 rex run with no routing

[slim lintel]

so does this dune strider like just not go up and do tarballs ever or what

[cyan stratus]

??

[slim lintel]

acrid can maybe get sub 2:30 unless I'm missing some speed mechanic but hold shit is it boring

also cabbage you did merc ethereal that def counts as routing, especially since the only thing rex needs to know is where crystals and the tele are

[cyan stratus]

my monitor wasnt on when i did ethereal

[slim lintel]

pretty bad dune fight and awful vagrant

still not in tune to the rhythm of the sprint cancel m1 thing

[soft acorn]

Its really annoying without some attack speed

[vapid merlin]

cabbage is a god

[cyan stratus]

working as intended

[rich horizon]

@cyan stratus how is it you do some of this stuff where you “smash” certain bosses for additional damage?

Seems you hit them into the wall/floor

[cyan stratus]

yeah

[cyan stratus]

oops i forgot ethereal reset today uhh

well they shoulda pinged me then

[slim lintel]

what a washed up tuber unsubbed

[vapid ivy]

I'd really like to see how you get past the blazing titan

[cyan stratus]

the titan is easy. the 1st boss is the only hard part

ok i sacrificed 30 minutes of sleep to get it done

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrePJBPPi8Y

[zenith plinth]

Is each system's trials different cause i dont have those items at all

[icy urchin]

yes, the ones on pc are different than the ones for console

[frosty prism]

what is prismatic trials

[icy urchin]

Pt is a gamemode where you do only 2 stages; the chests and the items you get from chests are always the same for everyone

pts reset every 3 days

you need to complete a pt to unlock and you also need to do it if you want merc's alt for his 4th ability

[tough belfry]

the idea is to go fast but nobody does that anymore

[frosty prism]

b

[echo sedge]

im convinced that lesser wisps are the work of the devil

what am i supposed to do against the pack of lesser wisps that spawn near the 2 minute mark

[tawdry copper]

pick them off

some characters deal with them better than others

[echo sedge]

trying to get the merc skill

how do i yeet the greater wisps to death

[tough belfry]

dash into them so that at the end of your dash you're inside them, hard to explain in words and not 100% consistent but if you just try it it should work sometimes

[echo sedge]

how do i end my dash prematurely? do i press the sprint button or?

[tough belfry]

you don't you just judge the distance to the wisp before you dash

[solemn fiber]

#12, where the video is really quiet

[smoky pier]

So how in the hell do I do this...

WITHOUT taking any damage???

[slim lintel]

Using the W A S and D keys on your keyboard or the Left Analog stick on your controller move away from danger and don't get hit

[smoky pier]

I'm going to hurt you with a giant sword.

'Move away from danger' you say.
As there's a Wisp with aimbot.

[slim lintel]

Ah darn if only the video game character known as "Mercenary" from the video game developed by hopoo from hopoo games along with his friends paulthegoat and ghor also from hopoo games had multiple forms of invulnerable mobility to safely dispatch the threat of the enemy wisps

[smoky pier]

Oh. You're an Acrid Main.

...Makes sense of your words

You don't help. You're only helping me hate a third community from the disgusting player type alone. Any actual advice?

[wet grove]

If you time your Shift and R well, you can I-frame through the wisp shots

[vapid sierra]

ethereal is skill based, you could have every legendary in the first level, and every not game breaking combo that there is, but if you don't have skill, you will still not do it

[wet grove]

This trial looks rather doable, I'm going to see if I can accomplish it.

[vapid sierra]

also, what does he being an "acrid main" change in his argument?

after you "do it" can you say what items are there and stuff?

[wet grove]

I'm following Cabbage's route

Check pins, he posts an Ethereal route for every trial

[vapid sierra]

oh true

forgot about him for a sec lul

[wet grove]

Stage 2 has ATG Missile, Uke, and Guillotine all availble

Which looks solid, since Stage 2 is also a Blazing Stone Titan

[vapid sierra]

nice

my poblem with stone titans is that rock cloud tho

it might be a poblem for me

[wet grove]

Well you get The Backup in stage 1, so worst case scenario, hide from everything, run nonstop, and backup him to death.

[vapid sierra]

hm, gotcha

[wet grove]

Jesus I need to learn to use Merc's mobility like Cabbage does. I feel so slow in comparison haha

[vapid sierra]

Cabbage is god

[slim lintel]

cabbage is washed up and retired

[vapid sierra]

o no

[slim lintel]

1v1 me huntress only ror2 pvp battleroyale mod cabbage

no items

titanic plains

[vapid sierra]

wait, that's illegal

[tough belfry]

btw to people trying it ur not cabbage so stone titans are hard

[vapid sierra]

lol

[tough belfry]

wait for double vagrant

double vagrant seed i mean not wait ingame

[wet grove]

Half an hour of attempts later

I can't even manage to dash to instant kill one of the three greater wisps, my will is broken

[tough belfry]

it's not as if you need to slam them

you can just kill them normally

[tender hull]

i just find nohitting prismatic trials to be a lil excessive for a skill

like, other skills literally just need you to stay in the air or killing a boss with a strong equipment, stuff like that

meanwhile you have to nohit 2 stages without any gear before the attempt and thats just quite complex

not to mention the skill itself isnt quite worth it but thats beyond the point

but yeah the prismatic trials this time around seem a bit possible but its still brutal

like a minute in youre gonna get swarmed by wisps (a glacial one included) so better get going for that brooch and such

and the blazing stone titan is uh

yyyyeah gl

lowkey the run where a lot of people will probably get the achievement is gonna be one where theres an afterburner lmao

whenever that is

[slim lintel]

the easiest ones are the ones with shaped glass

or preons

[tender hull]

well yeah that too

either brutal mobility or brutal dmg

[slim lintel]

so far its seemed like really easy trials for the challenge more often than bad ones

[tender hull]

current one seems doable?

but its really hard with how many wisps spawn and the second boss being a blazing titan

like, if you end up behind him, even with brooch thats probably gonna end the run

Anyway, im only missing that achievement and the stuff from arti so hoh boy

[fiery mica]

you only really need a preon and one glass. The rest is just knowing which enemies spawn where and planning a route. Testing the trial for every equipement, blue chest and blue shop should not take too long. After that it's just a matter of doing it 1-2 hours in a row to get, like you said, a mediocre skill that is mostly for flavor on the merc.

[cyan stratus]

if you realize how to manage cooldowns it's doable on any seed

you dont have to wait for some fancy seed with glass and preon

[tender hull]

Ya see but thats the deal

Even if you manage cooldowns well theres still the chance you get sorrounded by wisps

[cyan stratus]

then use those cooldowns? also you already know when wisps are going to spawn

once you do 1 runthrough

[tender hull]

Yes but that doesnt mean you can kill 10 if they spawn all at the begining

Unless they all align somehow

[cyan stratus]

then just hide or go out of los

[worthy cliff]

Or kite, wisps can miss yk

[tender hull]

H

[quick mist]

is today's prismatic trial good to attempt a mercenary skill unlock?

[tender hull]

Yes, not the best but its good

[quick mist]

good stuff

[echo sedge]

ethereal? More like chances of getting ot arent real

[lyric trail]

how does huntress pvp even work? wouldnt the basic attack just home in on eachother?

[slim lintel]

probably whoever hits a single ballista shot first

[elfin plinth]

ballista duel

[smoky pier]

Can I just say that anyone that says 'Wisps are easy'

You've only experienced them when they're at their weakest.

They may be easy to smack outta the sky...but those fuckers snipe you with deadly accuracy.

[cyan stratus]

just listen to the timing of the shot and if you dont have iframe abilities use m2 right when it shoots

[rapid crystal]

At least Ethereal's reward is awful so you're not missing out on the thing you can't complete

[vapid sierra]

it's not bad, just not that worth the challenge

it's an pretty good alt ability actually, it's just kinda awkward to use
and also as I said, not worth the challenge

[tired ember]

it'd probs be worth the challenge if wisps didnt exist

[tender hull]

Its too much of a challenge compared to literally anything that isnt skins

Only thing that compares to it is ballista and even that is miles more forgiving

[gloomy kayak]

Prismatic Trial Ethereal Seed waiting room

[cyan stratus]

every seed is an ethereal seed

[gloomy kayak]

Well yes, but actually no

[slim lintel]

video gameing

[elfin plinth]

Just don't get hit

And don't fall

[gloomy kayak]

[elfin plinth]

It works for everyone

[slim lintel]

You have multiple tools at your disposal, if you use them well its really not that hard. It's a set seed with minimal RNG just do it

[cyan stratus]

yeah just do it

[slim remnant]

any tips on the mercenary challenge

[frosty prism]

dont take damage

[slim lintel]

1. don't get hit
2. just do it

[elfin plinth]

Also
3. Don't fall down

[tender hull]

H

[slim lintel]

E

[worthy cliff]

I

[elfin plinth]

T

[still bolt]

Seems legit

[vapid sierra]

lol

[dusty kernel]

like how

[slim lintel]

hopoo from hopoo games is a gameing gamerr hily profesionol

[eager spruce]

this chat room makes me feel bad about myself 🤣

my name says it all

[slim lintel]

just change your name to exxtragood and then go do it

[eager spruce]

tru

[tender hull]

well there goes another 10 attempts where i just get sniped by a wisp

[buoyant elm]

same

even the second stage isn't as bad because there's a lot more walls to hide behind

but the first stage is "haha w i s p"

[wet grove]

The first stage gets even more painful when you're not cabbage, so you can't just instantly delete 2 of the greaters

[tough belfry]

if you're not cabbage enough for stage 1 you're not cabbage enough for stage 2

[slim lintel]

I can't believe how much of a weeb cabbage has become

[native acorn]

can most of us agree that the main reason anyone does trials is to get the mercanary ability

[buoyant elm]

cabbage?

also yeah I can agree w that

[echo glen]

Tweetcenary

Mercanary

[echo sedge]

new seed new suffering

blazing greater wisps on the 2nd teleporter

2nd place pog

got only hordes of many as teleporter bosses

found a tpoaz brooch pog

the right one has the brooch

overloading imps for 1st Teleporter, Blazing Greater Wisps as second

have fun

[still bolt]

Are you spawning IN ground too?

Remember to jump as soon as it start, if you just move without jump you will just fall through

[cyan stratus]

i'll probably get around to doing ethereal for this trial tomorrow or so

kinda tired and have a lot going on but if anyone wants to try it themselves just do the 2 stages without getting hit

[tired ember]

'just do the 2 stages without getting hit'

my thug, not everyone has invested that much time in the game

sigh i'll just wait for the PT without any blazing bosses

[elfin plinth]

@tired ember watch cabbage's video on latest trial

[tired ember]

oh i mean yes ofc he can do it, he has some serious swag

for the average guy tho its harrddddd

but ey nice, plant-boi is still a fairly decent choice

especially with his new utility he can acieve some nice speed

achieeeve

[vapid sierra]

I though your name was "TheBlackHopoo"

[tired ember]

if only

[elfin plinth]

Hopoo but he's in the wrong country

[tired ember]

also good on the guy who got first with a loader on scorched acres lol

nice patience

also just notice when loader dies her arms detach from the big metal ones, love the detail

[zenith plinth]

any easy unlocks on this prismatic trial

[tough belfry]

this is hard

might be worth it to kill awu instead of s2 boss if that works

but still blazing so not very nice

like this one for people who don't know https://youtu.be/QTbhEW8dZCQ?t=146

[echo sedge]

THAT works?

[tough belfry]

i haven't tried it this trial but i don't see why it wouldn't work

[echo sedge]

my only problem would be the imp horde of many on the first teleporter

[tough belfry]

that's easy

[echo sedge]

how

[tough belfry]

just don't get hit

their attacks are easy to avoid

just stay in the air, use abilities, run away if you're scared

kill the wisps first

[echo sedge]

aight

[tough belfry]

also there's the equipment that spawns drones, focus crystal, gasoline, crit glasses

but again, this trial is bad for ethereal

[worthy cliff]

or just do the awu cheese

[tough belfry]

awu is blazing

so it's harder to slam

[worthy cliff]

Hm, probably still easier doe

[echo sedge]

managed to get past the 1st stage

no-hit obviously

[slim lintel]

some BUNNY

[echo sedge]

nein

[tender hull]

so for awu cheese you just dash at flying stuff at a certain distance or wat?

[slim lintel]

you have to do the konami code right before you dash from the right distance

[tender hull]

also am i the only that spawns inside the floor in this trial?

[broken seal]

Has EVERY PT been loaded with wisps and imps to make this achievement a headache to get?

[slim lintel]

this is literally the first PT ever to have wisps

[pearl eagle]

You never get tired of answering these comments sarcastically do you?

[slim lintel]

Yeah it's pretty sad I have nothing better to do

[worthy cliff]

damn too real

[pearl eagle]

Pretty understandable in these times tbh, my entire country has pretty much gone in lockdown and I fimd myself with way too much freetime now

[slim lintel]

You should start running ethereal and put cabbage in his place

[pearl eagle]

No thanks, not gonna put myself through that hell

[slim lintel]

lol

[pearl eagle]

I'm way too impatient to go for ethereals. I remember struggling when the challenge came out

And the early seeds were pretty easy iirc

[slim lintel]

I do gotta give cabbage credit for sticking with it so long, he has gotten insanely good at it

[pearl eagle]

Yeah ik, some credit is deserved

[slim lintel]

but I miss speed

[pearl eagle]

I just miss Arti and MUL-T tbh

Because those runs were super fun to do

[slim lintel]

Ye, have you played around with arti's alt M2? It charges slightly faster and has infinite range and a lot more projectile speed over the default

pretty nice for trials

[pearl eagle]

Yeah, whenever I play Arti in base game I always use it. Dunno why but it feels really satisfying

Guess the range could be pretty good for some crystals

[slim lintel]

Arti had so much finesse in trials getting the perfect crystal jumps and counting your dot ticks, rex is just so unga bunga

[pearl eagle]

Lmao true

Rex does require a decent amount of skill, it just doesn't feel very good to play, I guess

Maybe in a couple weeks time when I run out of stuff to do I'll come crawling back to trials

[slim lintel]

trials should be getting a bit of a facelift soon with the artifact update

[pearl eagle]

Have we got a release date?

[slim lintel]

31st

[pearl eagle]

March 31. Apperantly

Maybe I'll come back for a bit then

Gotta play through doom eternal first though

[slim lintel]

Yeah i'll have to see how much of my life the new AC game takes over

[soft acorn]

OR yall can just play RoR multiplayer on tougher difficulty?

[slim lintel]

what

[echo sedge]

RoR isnt the only game in existence

[slim lintel]

what

[cinder fractal]

yh, theres RoR 2

[tough belfry]

just get mods its basically the same

[slim lintel]

what

[tender hull]

how much time does cabagge normally take to nohit trials?

[elfin plinth]

Enough

[slim lintel]

I think he said like 30min to an hour or something like that to scout and complete

probably like 10 mins if theres a shaped ass

[tender hull]

hes probably gonna have a rough time nohitting this one

mainly because of the blazing wisps

[hasty siren]

Cabbage dad I hope you are healthy and Corona free ❤️

and also I wanna see a trial vid from you soon

[pearl eagle]

Ask and you shall recieve

[cyan stratus]

yea i've been busy lately but i'll try to do this one right now

ok done

[echo sedge]

bruh

[cyan stratus]

took longer to upload than it took to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygJPU2LuRoM&feature=youtu.be

[broken seal]

Thank you

[solemn fiber]

#13, sounds finally back and this one's quite long

man ive been postin these for a bit over a month .3.

[tender hull]

Oh so you just support the wisps to death

[glossy sinew]

jeez your game runs so smoothly

my game runs like ass even with all the settings on the lowest they could possibly be

[solemn fiber]

potato

[glossy sinew]

fr

[zinc furnace]

What’s the point of prismatic trials like what do they even do

[elfin plinth]

You get 2 achieves in em

[zinc furnace]

Is that all it does

[elfin plinth]

Yes

[zinc furnace]

Dang

[slim lintel]

It used to be a fun challenge between players to go fast with good competition

[zenith plinth]

any tips on how to get . Ethereal

[slim lintel]

dont get hit and just do it

[humble lava]

@zenith plinth Be quick and get used to listening for the sound of wisp firing

[zenith plinth]

gotcha

[humble lava]

What worked for me was just running it like 30 or so times in a row. I know it's a total grind but if you memorize the timings and movements it really only comes down to dodging a few random things instead of winging it

[random swift]

wait what is prismatic trials?

[tawdry copper]

a challenge in which you try to complete 2 stages as fast as possible

[random swift]

ooooo

cool

[echo sedge]

what sucks about the ethereal challenge is that just about ANY error is a restart

messed up a jump? restart

a group of wisps spawned in a different place than you expected? restart

if the challenge was to beat a mountain shrine teleporter event with mercenary without getting hit, I'd consider it more reasonable

[soft acorn]

This isnt a great seed for it, but if you make it you earn bragging rights

[tender hull]

The only hard part i saw was the blazing wisps

And since now i know you just call support on them til they die then its rather doable

Now its just a matter of not getting bombarded when i spawn them

[soft acorn]

Feel free to record a vid, im deffo not sinking an hour into this one

[tender hull]

Did no one pin cabbage's vid?

[echo sedge]

its 10 seconds of scrolling and the seeds about to change soon

so ech

[vapid sierra]

yeah to ping it now wouldn't make too much sense

[soft acorn]

@indigo snow ^

[indigo snow]

wwww

[echo sedge]

why ping a mod to tell them not to pin something

[soft acorn]

There might still be some lost soul thats gonna try and make it

Also Shyguy is cool

[echo sedge]

its 10 seconds of scrolling up

[vapid sierra]

madlad

[echo sedge]

wont argue against that

[indigo snow]

What the heck how do I see pins now on mobile

Dang updates

[soft acorn]

wait no, top right corner 3 dots

[indigo snow]

Updated, no longer 3 dots on mobile

Now that's to filter mentions

Have to tap the name of the channel at the top to see pins

Unless that's just because mod idk

[soft acorn]

idk maybe, no update on my device

[echo sedge]

new seed, I guess

time to scout

stage 1 is sirens call

elite alloy vultures first teleporter boss

got Glacial

theres a gnarled woodsprite and an equipment drone first stage so you could set up a healing distraction buoy

so far this seems doable

Theres a Topaz Brooch Printer on the snd stage!

[slim lintel]

some

BUNNY

[echo sedge]

This seed is incredibly reasonable for Slicing Wind unlock

START YOUR GRINF NOW

also overloading stone titan as boss

[echo sedge]

remind me to keep grinding the seed

seed is basically: grind drones, do alloy slam, and brooches and beat teleporter

that's my plan

anyone know if the alloy slam requires.2 slams or 1 precise slam?

[soft acorn]

agro it next to the pillar in the centre of the map and one slam will do. Alternatively it depends on angle and how much attack speed u got

[echo sedge]

ohboy

[fathom current]

Hey

Is this the place where I can find out the best prismatic trial to unlock articer's skill (achievement: Chunked!)

[soft acorn]

You wanna get that, set difficulty on drizzle, grind 15 stages and ull grab it

[frosty prism]

how long do trials go for

[soft acorn]

around 2 and a half minutes, or one and a half if you are cabbare or iforgotwho

[frosty prism]

oh

nice

[vapid sierra]

training, seed and the character are pretty essencial for time, soo if you're those hardcore people who want atleast to try to be like top 10, try with basically everyone

[frosty prism]

what do you guys recommend for this seed?

[vapid sierra]

everyone everytime

[frosty prism]

it;s siren's call

first chest right next to spawn is a energy drink

and then a missile drone

should i spawn alloy?

[vapid sierra]

oh cabbage did a video on it, it's for the ethereal achivement, but it if you don't want to do an ethereal unlock yo ucan just look at this video and it should show some items there

AWU will never be worth in prismatic trials, unless you play merc and can do the merc slam glitch easily

[frosty prism]

i main merc

[vapid sierra]

then yes it's kinda worth to do it

[frosty prism]

and i'm doing him rn just for the achievement, havent been bothered until now

[vapid sierra]

but the fact that you have to break eggs and stuff, will make you lose time

[frosty prism]

then deicide, pushing crabs off, and then five lunar items

[vapid sierra]

but if you're going for ethereal go for it I guess, a free red is always good

ok then do it
getting an powerfull red item will clearly make your time easir

unless obviously, you get like aegis or head stompers

[soft acorn]

Idk what you are talking about, pt is get rex rush teleporter and snipe crystals while you fly by

All that while at roughly 5% hp, as it should be

[frosty prism]

how many stages is it

[soft acorn]

PT is always 2 stages

[frosty prism]

nice

nice

the overloading titan walked into the pit

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVrjIDKdes

[solemn fiber]

#14

[solemn fiber]

258 more days left.

[tender hull]

skips teleporter by slamming unit
hol up

[tired ember]

without fail theres always that one guy with a huntress who does it sub 1min

kinda curious as to how merc has the highest potentially legit score

i mean you can instakill alloy but you're gonna lose time searching for the scattered eggs

[tender hull]

Sheer mobility i assume

[tired ember]

loader has potentially more mobility and higher damage

[tender hull]

Loader's mobility isnt as interactive

[tired ember]

got a 3:30 with loader eeeesh im bad

[tender hull]

You just fly in one direction

[tired ember]

yesyessss but it covers longer distances and the crystals are very scattered this trial

[tender hull]

Actually idk what boss pops up if you dont slam alloy

[tired ember]

not saying its impossible since i really dont know but i'd've thought loader would be number one versus merc on this map

sadly a lot of crystals are under roof so i cant optimize rex too much

[cyan stratus]

rex is always fastest except when it's not

[tired ember]

well said my friend

maybe loader is better with electro gauntlet? way less momentum to account for but idkkkk\

[echo sedge]

so an alloy slam is 2 slams done quickly

i kinda wish i knew that

[slim lintel]

some

[cyan stratus]

loader default abilities are best

[tired ember]

ig you just need to be skilled enough to manage the momentum

[slim lintel]

can loader slam awu cabbage?

if she can she's def faster than rex this trial

[cyan stratus]

no

[tired ember]

rex best plant confirmed

is getting 2:10 on this trial with merc feasible, out of interest

[soft acorn]

You can slam with your R but its super RNG😩

[tired ember]

yeah but you'd just be making up for time you lost spawning alloy

[soft acorn]

@tired ember not possible to get that time with merc, s2 boss alone takes forever to kill even with the ap round

that's a cheater

[tired ember]

ye thats what i thought

idk about loader tbh

i feel like if you're skilled enough you could do some good optimization

can't really see how any merc could get below 3 mins 🤷

[cyan stratus]

sub 3 is easily doable if you're not doing ethereal at the same time

[echo sedge]

managed to clear the 1st stage without getting it

irritating, but possible

[soft acorn]

sub 3 could be, but not 2:13

[echo sedge]

I DID IT

[slim lintel]

BUNNY

[modest island]

Good job!

[echo sedge]

thanks!

[tender hull]

Nice

[echo sedge]

is this posted everytime cabbage ethereals a prismatic trial

cause i like that tradition

[river sonnet]

what items did you get for completing that trial

[zenith plinth]

I am in console and right in the trials we have a topaz printer in siren call's but a don't kniw how to do the instakill to flying enemies with merc, somebody know how to do it.

[stoic veldt]

if im not wrong you just dash into a big floating enemy like a vagrant and if they hit a wall

they take a ton of damage

[zenith plinth]

I know tha but i don't know how to perform that

[stoic veldt]

make sure the big guy is close to a wall or floor and make sure that you are above him so its easier to hit him into the floor and just spam the dash i guess?

dont know tbh thats how ive seen people do it

haven ever done it myself though

[steep coral]

hey guys is it possible to get the merc ethereal from these trials?

[zenith plinth]

Depending of the trial

[slim lintel]

its very possible every trial

[zenith plinth]

Yea but sometimes is very hard

[cyan stratus]

you can get ethereal on every seed by not getting hit

[slim lintel]

just do it

[zenith plinth]

That is the problem for me with merc, i always get hit by a random attack

[slim lintel]

So what you're saying is all you have to do is not get hit and you're golden

[zenith plinth]

It is easy to Say it

[river sonnet]

Bro just don’t get hit 4Head

[cyan stratus]

that but unironcally

[zenith plinth]

I discover in console we can't do the thing with merc

The instakill to flying enemies

[steep coral]

well when ur melee and have 5 wisps on ur head

and ur telling me don't get hit once

kinda weird xd

[slim lintel]

damn shame you don't have 2 mobility skills that both have hefty iframes to get away from basically any situation

[solemn fiber]

bro

wobbly ears

[tired ember]

@echo sedge jealous af rn lol. what'd you do against the titan to counter the laser and orb attack thingy?

[elfin plinth]

laser is just hug him

[tired ember]

orb?

[cyan stratus]

you can just kill the titan easy

[tired ember]

yes killing titan ez, without hit? mmmm

[elfin plinth]

yes

[tired ember]

tbf there is a brooch on the first area

could probably also print some lovely little AP rounds

hasnt the last 3 lunar bosses just been titans?

[cyan stratus]

just do what i do in my video

titan goes down in 5 sec

[slim lintel]

just do it

ethereal sponsored by nike

[tired ember]

i mean tbf im more of a rex guy but hey, you make it seeeem easy enough

[echo sedge]

oh i killed it before it spawned the balls @tired ember

[tired ember]

👀

i did not know merc held such power

did you print APs?

[echo sedge]

one

[tired ember]

funnnnnnnnnnnnnn

ah so theres a moneygun on stage 2

that simplifies things

[slim lintel]

cf is insanely op dont listen to the idiots that say its weak because they used to for 2 seconds

[tired ember]

cf? oh crowdfunder

[slim lintel]

the only thing stronger than crowdfunder is a capacitor if you get the cd below 2 seconds

[tired ember]

wouldnt using up your money make cf useful only on tp bosses if you're on a normal run?

at least for the early game

[soft acorn]

yh cf is OP, the drizzlets keep on trahstalkign it but that thing is better than most M1s

it has the highest DPS if you let it speed up to its top RoF, better than capacitor

[slim lintel]

I mean tp's are generally the only place the game gets intense anyways

and after you reach character level like 10 the xp you get from leftover money accounts for barely anything

[tired ember]

might try it sometime

dont really use equipment that much actually

[slim lintel]

same

usually if you need to rely on equip you're bad or are having really shitty item rng

[tired ember]

i mean generally the characters i play can sustain themself damagewise

so rex, basically.

loader arti, yknow, the ones all the cool kids play

i used to have some serious swag points, playing arti before any buffs

[slim lintel]

arti was low-key way better at launch

[tired ember]

no she wasnt lol

[slim lintel]

I have like 300 hours on arti, she was def technically better

[soft acorn]

you save on difficulty climb if you can grind kills faster during tele

[tired ember]

i have like 250 she wasn't rly

[soft acorn]

thats BS

Arti got better

[slim lintel]

nope

[tired ember]

no rly exactly what made her so good at launch lmao

procs didnt even scale to damage

[slim lintel]

she got minor useless changes wile the enemy rate spiked through the roof making her hard cap DPS due to CD's become a burden

[soft acorn]

most items that theyve added over time work better with her and agaik shes never gotten a nerf (excl the universam monsoon heal nerf)

[tired ember]

so you mean the difficulty of the game got higher

not arti got better

or was better

[slim lintel]

she was better because the game was different then not because changes to the char its self

[tired ember]

i mean you could say that about every character

but yes

[soft acorn]

not every, mando and rex became godlike after their buffs

[tired ember]

honestly a lot of the old characters need some slight buffs to damage, as the game got harder without them improving

[soft acorn]

arti is still the most fun to play tho, her ablity set is the only in the game that requires u to think when to use what

too bad shes crap for PT now

[tired ember]

most characters are

i actually suggested char based PT boards

since like, thats a no-brainer

i used to love arti, then a robo-plant stole my heart

[slim lintel]

only char I really consider bad rn is huntress (talking base game) she gets along ok~ but she's just so unfun to play with auto aim and way too long cooldowns

[tired ember]

very weak in the early game yes

damage-wise

i always have trouble with keeping mul-t alive too

[slim lintel]

sawblade would be so fun...if flying enemies didnt exist and just so happened to be the biggest threats in the game

[tired ember]

oh ive had some sawblade runs

just keep the nailgun for backup lol

not the BeSt setup but hey, rly fun

[slim lintel]

it's double sawblade or nothin'

[soft acorn]

i still cant put my finger on one thing she has going for her

[slim lintel]

thicc

[soft acorn]

ah yes, the power of fanbois

thank god devs are immune to that

.> looks at overwatch >.>

also lowkey arti is hotter

[slim lintel]

arti has nicer feet

[tired ember]

arti has skin showing 👀

at least it seems like it

[slim lintel]

dont think so

[soft acorn]

^deffo no skin

[woven mica]

excuse me

arti has nicer feet
what

[slim lintel]

what are you doing here go back to #ror2-feedback-discussion

[soft acorn]

||arti has nicer everything||

[woven mica]

arti has nice gauntlets

[soft acorn]

||esp feet||

[woven mica]

i like her gauntlets

[tired ember]

ig it just looks like skin since theres no pattern

[zenith plinth]

What are the stages for current trials?

[tired ember]

sirens call, desert

[slim lintel]

beetlequeen is the true thicc though

[zenith plinth]

Dang it ty

[tired ember]

hot hottt

siren's call is one of the best stages to get since theres no goddamnnnnnnn wisisispspss

[soft acorn]

you guys really have no tase if ur missing this chad

[tired ember]

imp x queen

[slim lintel]

imp does get down low and shake that thang

[tired ember]

he do a lil d a n c e y6

[soft acorn]

ok tho heres the real question:

Which enemy would be best to play as for PT?

[tired ember]

imp overlord?

[slim lintel]

either imp because teleport and decent dps or clayboi because big DPS

[tired ember]

overloading magma maybe

[slim lintel]

TC-280 Protoype is the strongest char for trials

[tired ember]

we all know thats stationary turret, silly

[soft acorn]

Id probs go for imp, all the rest r too slow

maybe grovetender if tele is close to spawn

aactually scratch that, eldar lem every day, that thing's sprint is dummy fast

[tired ember]

and hot, like that head bob is pretty sick

its actually lowkey scary

verrrryyy scary if you know what those motherfuckers are capable of

[soft acorn]

imagine turret with items

[elfin plinth]

Engineer exists

[tired ember]

can we have drones w/ items yet

[soft acorn]

first thing i want is arti's alt skills to work and not succ :' (

tho i really dk if any survivor will ever again beat rex at PT outside the occasional merc and loader seed

[tired ember]

this one seed may benefit loader more than rex since the crystals are roofed n shite

[slim lintel]

rex is better this trial

stage 1 kill crystal under you while falling run over to crystal near cables launch yourself up and towards tele a bit and kill crystal on other side of container

[tired ember]

ah

ok ethereal seems actually doable this time round

[soft acorn]

idk i think u can go way sub 2 with loader on this one

[tired ember]

need some decent skill but maybe 👀

[slim lintel]

pics or it didnt happen

[spare monolith]

How the hell am I supposed to do the stupid merc challenge

[tired ember]

argh i got so close to ethereal but a lemeurian or smth hit me while i was fighting the rock

11 damage taken, literally 1 hit

[tough belfry]

so all you have to do is not get hit once

literally easiest challenge in game

[tired ember]

hits when you have barrier dont actually count as dropping below 100% hp

best option is just to out-damage the boss

[indigo skiff]

Barrier is separate from health/shields.

[tired ember]

^

[steep coral]

anyone did the merc challenge here

[cyan stratus]

yes

[echo sedge]

yes

[tired ember]

almosssststttttstst

except for that one goddamamnnnnn lemurian

[tired ember]

oh god allow is a real bitch for me to push

i mean ig eventually i'll get it, but its really hard to judge the distanmce

correction, the first push is easy, the second is a pain

but hey im set on getting this achievment, no matter how long it takes

[floral pagoda]

Best PT challenge: [WARNING] The air begins to burn...

[tired ember]

can we just get a beetles only pt yet lmao

[odd fulcrum]

how easy is it to get the ethereal achievement on the current seed?

[cyan stratus]

very easy

[odd fulcrum]

i've been struggling the past 4 hours and i've already watch your video and i still can't get it :/ @cyan stratus

[cyan stratus]

just do roughly what i do and you'll get it soon enough

[odd fulcrum]

im slowly losing my anger and sanity

5 hours and still no achievement

[odd fulcrum]

i give up ill just try another seed

[elfin plinth]

lol

[odd fulcrum]

@cyan stratus thanks for believing in me and btw keep up the vids on yt, I love watching them :)

[knotty yew]

Yeah what an absolute legend, you make it seem so easy

[elfin plinth]

well it's ez since all you need to do is to not get hit

[echo sedge]

my word of advice (from only doing it once) is to be quick

letting the enemies pile up is incredibly risky

[steep coral]

oml;

i got it

there are 2 missile drones

in the map

i played it safe and had the drones behind me all the time

got 7 piercing rounds from the first map

the crowdfunder from the second and oneshooted the golem

[tired ember]

wheres the second drone

[knotty yew]

@tired ember

[tired ember]

ah

thankkks

[knotty yew]

np

[tired ember]

tbh might just try the other seed

lol speedrunning prism trials is quite fun actually, ethereal is more of an on-the-side thing to me now

only six hrs before the new trial owowowo

[slim lintel]

this guy gets it fast

[steep coral]

@tired ember sry was playing xd

[tired ember]

oh lol

no prob

[jade shell]

16 more minutes for this seed

[echo sedge]

well, o7 to this glorious seed

new seed new seed

stone titan first stage, Blazing Wandering Vagrant second

[spring marsh]

so for the short time console and pc are on the same update will their seeds be the same?

[echo sedge]

probably not

[spring marsh]

i guess we will see

[echo sedge]

okay so

for whoever wants Ethereal, by the looks of it this aint the seed for you

i got AS many items as i could

[tired ember]

tbf you could just bash vagrant, no?

what stages

[echo sedge]

Barracks And Distant Roost

hmm

could be possible

but Vagrant burn is gonna be fun

[tired ember]

barracks is?

desert or what lol

[echo sedge]

fuck

I confused Magmatic Barracks with Abyssal Depths

[tired ember]

lol right

[echo sedge]

to note, there are 4 fucking shrines of combat of the 1st stage

what the fuck

[tired ember]

once found a 4 mountains on a single stage

boyo that was fun

[echo sedge]

3 on Monsoon was enough for me to get an Overloading Worm on stage 4

[tired ember]

in my case it was a blazing vagrant. monsoon, stage 2

[tired ember]

every time lmao

[spark sorrel]

I got 99% of the way through and took damage from a wisp

[tired ember]

my goon, i feel you

[cyan stratus]

tried this seed for 10 minutes and decided not today

if you had trouble on the last seed you'll have much more trouble on this one but i'll do it tomorrow or so

[vapid sierra]

oof

you know the seed is bad when Cabbage decides not to do it

[steep coral]

well i am happy i was stubborn enough to get it on the last one

[tender hull]

Yikes

If theres no reliable way to call support on the vagrant or the like then i can see why it can be hard

Havent seen this seed yet tho

[tired ember]

golem should be relatively easy but the vagrant bash is gonna be tought to pull off because of the burn

[dense hollow]

Is there a way to get the etheral achievement on the current seed

Ive been trying to get it for 4 hours

[cyan stratus]

yes

just do something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKnDYuDxAq0

[dense hollow]

Thanks

[tender hull]

oh geez you actually gotta slam the vagrant

[green patrol]

is it a good seed today

for ethernal

[cyan stratus]

yes

[green patrol]

dam how did you get the one shot on the vagrant so easily

if the disc dosent attack it you take fire damage

[tender hull]

he just slammed it into the ground

and it died

[cyan stratus]

read the description

[green patrol]

so you used your utility ability and slammed in between the rock and you and it killed it?

[placid rampart]

is it still harder than the one before or did you find an easy way?

[green patrol]

i thought it was the disc this entire time lol

[cyan stratus]

it's easy if it works

if it doesn't work then it isn't

[solemn fiber]

#15

[soft imp]

How are u supposed to do these things without getting hit as merc?

[tender hull]

Refer to pinned video

[soft imp]

Thx

[tender hull]

Oh wait a minute thats the previous trial

Scroll up a bit for the current trials vid because its not pinned yet

[soft imp]

Is the prismatic trial the same as pc and consoles?

[tender hull]

I dont think so

[soft imp]

The pinned video is the trial that console is currently on, also how did he push the sentinel boss with Merc’s dash into the ground?

I know you can make enemies hit the wall and ground for lots of damage but I don’t know how

[vapid sierra]

it's an bug merc can do, I don't know exactly how to do it, I just know that you have to use his dahs to make some sort of momentum to push the enemy down

[soft imp]

Is it actually a bug? I know other characters that can do it as well, like loaders punch

[wet grove]

Merc's dash can do things like have him reappear inside of things, which sends them flying at a million miles an hour

[clear plover]

how many stages is this seed?

[slim lintel]

prism trials are always 2 stages

[vapid merlin]

^ ^ ^

[unborn bay]

@solemn fiber whats the song

[solemn fiber]

pokemon black/white thing

i mentioned it before somewhere, just search it

driftveil city

[zenith plinth]

good etheral seed?

cause this shit is awful

[cyan stratus]

yes

[teal ermine]

how do you slam the vagrant like that ?

[slim lintel]

look at the vagrant, give it the stink eye, quote anime, press shift at a certain distance

[teal ermine]

qhj you need the power of anime on your side ?

[slim lintel]

the anime quote just instantly makes you stinky so the vagrant wants to get away and accidently yeets its self in to a wall at high speed

[teal ermine]

and if i want to do it without anime ?

[slim lintel]

just follow the last step

[teal ermine]

and R put you at the right distance ?

[slim lintel]

idk maybe I don't play merc enough to know the exact details other than dash in to it from a correct distance so you are inside it

[teal ermine]

interesting stuff

ill test a bit, thanks!

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0BiSUBJyL8

[solemn fiber]

#16

[brazen rivet]

ok bruh just got to 8th in the trial and how in the fuck does #1 have only 16 seconds

[green patrol]

vulfoof why

[solemn fiber]

@brazen rivet cheating

[brazen rivet]

yeah sounds about right

[tired ember]

probably a huntress again lmao

[odd fulcrum]

How do people cheat trials???

[soft acorn]

||long story short: devs asked modmakers to make sure mods cant be used in PT and quickplay, so modmakers add a flag that disables these two options. some ppl remove that flag and play trials with edited character stats/items afaik ||

its pretty petty given that in PT the only 10 people who can see that you cheated are the ones of us who actually try

[odd fulcrum]

Thats just low man, lunar coin editing is fine but this is like straight up cheating

[slim lintel]

also www.cheat-engine.gov

[cunning dawn]

Given how genuinely ridiculous the mercenary ethereal challenge is.. I kinda see why people would cheese it

Cheating on anything else? Kinda weak though

[thin ferry]

Speaking of the challenge

Is this trial any good for trying to complete it?

[odd fulcrum]

Yes, look at the lord Cabbage's video

It should be an easy one since it's literally just dodge the attacks and for the 2nd stage boss its a vagrant so you can just do the insta kill bug

[cunning dawn]

Insta kill bug?

[slim lintel]

yeet

[cunning dawn]

mega helpful, thank you

[thin ferry]

There’s a way to force a momentum change in large flying enemies

To force them into ramming into nearby terrain and structures

Which in turn deals a LOT of damage, Mercenary can do this with his Blinding Assault iirc

As for the Cabbage video, thank you! I didn’t realize this was a thing. Helpful as fuck. ❤️

https://youtu.be/k0BiSUBJyL8
If anyone else is struggling!

[cunning dawn]

o-O

so.. Console players just don't get to unlock it, gotcha

[green patrol]

cabbage is a god

[thin ferry]

He’s pretty damn good, knows what he’s doing

[cunning dawn]

I have literally everything else in the game done and I've been trying to do this for about a month. Literally easier to get plat God on tboi then doing this 🤠🔫

[thin ferry]

You’ll get it eventually

[cunning dawn]

I know I'm a little flustered rn, but really tho? If the community protips are:

yeah just uh... Cheat or use an instant kill gimmick :D

How is that not an issue, from a dev standpoint?

[thin ferry]

Well, they’re as the name suggest- challenges

Huntress has one where you have to complete an entire stage without taking a hit. Sure it’s a lot easier if you have Aegis and a crit-centered build but, point is- it’s a challenge

And it’s possible without cheating or an insta kill “gimmick”

It’s just the easiest way to get to it, Vagrants have pretty simple tells

[cunning dawn]

Challenges requiring glitches or (usually) unintended means though? For the huntress thing you have far more options to go at it,

[thin ferry]

It doesn’t require any of that

They just make it a lot easier

[cunning dawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ it just doesn't seem like a challenge, compared to the others in the game. Considering the lack of lenience. For the huntress challenge you have many ways to do it, as well as the rex, loader etc. Shields could have added leeway or something. Ya know? It just feels.. Unpolished, like a slap in

[thin ferry]

I suppose, to each their own.

[cyan stratus]

ethereal is very easy once you figure out how to use mercenary iframes. you dont have to slam the vagrant, i just do it because it's easy and no reason not to. if you stand on top of the vagrant it wont attack you so if you cant slam it for some reason just stand on it and autoattack while dodging the vultures

it's supposed to be a challenge so complaining that it's hard isn't very productive

[thin ferry]

That’s a way to phrase it

[cunning dawn]

It may seem like a complaint but I'm just saying there's no variety in a solution

[cyan stratus]

there's plenty of variety. you can do it any way you want as long as you dont get hit

[cunning dawn]

Maybe I'm not conveying my message appropriately or correctly.

[thin ferry]

Cabbage, question, do you aim for top-time in the trials?

And if so, is Mercenary your go-to for that or do you simply use him for the tutorial aspect of the challenge

[cyan stratus]

i used to but not anymore

[thin ferry]

I didn’t delve too deep into your channel so I’m clueless yet curious

[cyan stratus]

and rex is the fastest by far unless loader is

[thin ferry]

That would make sense

Rex has been in a really good spot

[slim lintel]

helo how to do etheral

[vapid merlin]

don't get hit and i-frame

[slim lintel]

whats is an ifram

[ionic laurel]

have lower equip load and get flip ring in forest breh

[slim lintel]

what

[green patrol]

is this supposed to happen?

[slim lintel]

Hopoo

[green patrol]

I DID IT @cyan stratus thank you

[cyan stratus]

np

[spare monolith]

finally

cabbage doing god's work

[cyan stratus]

yea this seed is good for anyone who hasn't gotten ethereal yet

[serene patrol]

0

[pseudo finch]

Yah ive come to grips with the fact i will never get that ability

[slim lintel]

I have the video for people that have given up hope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrVViUQScBg

[frosty prism]

are you the tax man? because im actually ted

[pseudo finch]

oh i already knew i could just give my self it, just a shame seeing how he was the person i wanted to get good with but after countless hours in those trials hes dead to me

[shut pilot]

I find trying to yeet the vagrant as merc to be very inconsistent. Sometimes I will hit him and knock him down, but it wont register that my dash hit, so it goes on cooldown. Sometimes I'll hit him but it wont register as him taking damage... He'll lose HP but his overloading shield charges right through it regardless. So after hitting him against the ground, his shield has charged him back before I can use my second dash.

This is certainly an easier seed to try it with, but I just hate this inconsistency I'm facing at the last part.

[shut pilot]

Finally got it. 😅

[echo badge]

Why does cabbage keep hitting m1 as merc when running around?

[sly barn]

My main issue with the merc thing is that the reward skill you get for arguably the hardest challenge in the game isn't as good as the one the Merc comes with in the box. So you go through the effort and get it and slicing wind is a huge let down.

That should be a concern for the devs more than the difficulty.

[vapid merlin]

a challenge is a challenge and I agree it should be better. hitting m1 as merc gives you some mobility and using it during your R gives you more hits

[cyan stratus]

lol no it doesnt i just do it because there's nothing better to do

[echo badge]

Lol i figured

You can use it during R? whoa

[knotty yew]

@cyan stratus Thanks for the video man, finally got the achievement

[green patrol]

why is it so hard to get this but it sucks after you get it anyways

like sure you get a projectile as mercenary but the base R is better because you go invincible for a couple of seconds

[slim lintel]

because hopoo is a fraud

[soft acorn]

they better buff it so damn much its better than rex for PT

[slim lintel]

if merc becomes the new top tier for trials I'm speedrunning uninstall%

[dense hollow]

I cant

I surrender

I cant get the etheral achievement

@cyan stratus watched your video a million times

still cant get it

[soft acorn]

Enable merc to smash all monsters

[dense trench]

I can’t get Mercenary’s final skill. I always get hit and it infuriates me.

[restive jackal]

this seed is very very good

i got it within 2 hours of never playing merc

have you tried this one?

[ashen plaza]

So what if now this is just an honest opinion but what if um the first boss is not a stone titan? But instead an annoying beetle queen? Cause uh frankly I ain't doing so hot getting that achievement with beetle queen over here lol

[solemn fiber]

too slow

[ashen plaza]

(￣ヘ￣;) and honest mood

[molten bolt]

Nah the harder one is killing an imp overlord with a Preon as it took me forever cause they keep teleporting

[midnight thicket]

vagrant wont get slam i ben doing this for hours now ;-;

[midnight thicket]

I did it :D

For someone who nvr even play a full proper run of merc (literally my first time actually using him properly) this is a really good seed to get the skill :D

[vapid merlin]

grats

[brave root]

Is this prismatic trial any good for chunked?

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N61QcUxtMA ethereal

[solemn fiber]

#17, where this one is very short

[wild patio]

so how do i get past the infernal vagrant at the end without taking tick damage just by being near it?

[solemn fiber]

dunk

[mild urchin]

how do you dash cheese with the mercenary?

[main smelt]

I think it has to do something with you ending the dash while inside an enemy, and the game doesn't like that so it pushes the enemy far away, so ending the dash inside the Vagrant and then immediately dashing away is how you do it? Please someone correct me if I am wrong!

[gleaming wasp]

Yeah I'm still not sure how to consistently hit it into things

I kinda smack it around

And hope it hits something

[woeful sparrow]

same, its really hard.

[cyan stratus]

i might make a video on how to slam stuff because people get confused about it a lot

[gleaming wasp]

that would be very nice @cyan stratus

[opal basin]

everyone: "oh my god, ethereal is impossible, why are they always so hard"
cabbage:

[gleaming wasp]

"this trial is easy since all you have to do is not get hit"

[main smelt]

Please do that cabbage, i have currently failed to slam the vagrant 84 times today and I am losing it

[night ginkgo]

this slam is so hard, i either get damaged when i dash or i can't slam it hard enough to deal necessary damage :/

[cyan stratus]

with the blazing vagrant it's necessary to use dash twice in a row quickly so that there isn't a pause between your iframes

and the angle is very important

[night ginkgo]

ohhh okaay

i've kinda got the angle but didnt do the double dash, i'll try this

i'm off for tonight, double dash worked well but still cant get enought dmg out of the slam, i'll work on this tomorrow haha, Thanks 😄

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvttjdK2lY maybe this is useful

[thin ferry]

Cabbage is a blessing

Honestly

[zinc sun]

thanks for the video cabbage, my friend was calling bullshit on this being worthwhile but the video proved otherwise

[zenith plinth]

cabbage, in a lot of your clips, you are gaining insane height by using M2 into a slanted surface. is that all there is to the trick? i have done it many times unintentionally on enemies lol

[cyan stratus]

yes

[zenith plinth]

also (sorry to bother you) but when i attempt to do a slam using r, i just stop infront of them and start doing the animation. in the video, did you perform the slam using r? or was the the shift that you did right after the r?

[cyan stratus]

i dont know what those keybinds are, but i use eviscerate to position + iframe buffer (iframes persist a bit after) and then dash twice

[zenith plinth]

r is in t he slot left of equipment and shift is to the left of that but ik what you mean ty

[green patrol]

is the second boss always elite?

[cyan stratus]

yes unless it isn't

[loud sparrow]

i thought all you had to do was be on top of them and use shift towards the ground good video cabbage

[fervent stag]

Can anyone confirm if this can be done in multiplayer when you are not the host?

[slim lintel]

Should work fine as long as your host doesnt have trash internet (:

[fervent stag]

Weird

I remember trying like a billion times but couldnt make it work

But it shouldnt even be hard to do

I guess I just s u c c

[night ginkgo]

yeh it works in multiplayer

[main smelt]

191 attempts and 2 have been foiled by a single tick of damage and a wisp

I am sure attempt 192 will be the one!

Haha...

[main smelt]

307 was the one actually!

[mystic wave]

congrats!

I'm not sure how many I've done. I just want ethereal 😢

[zenith plinth]

NICE lol

[mystic wave]

does anyone know if there are brooches on the second stage of this trial?

[zenith plinth]

@main smelt how are you practicing the slams?

just PT?

[main smelt]

Thank you!
Hang in there icy tundra, you will get it eventually!

[mystic wave]

thx 🙂

[main smelt]

Pure and destilled repetition Campion, even when a run is botched on the second stage i still try to see if I can slam the Vagrant, even if i won't get ethereal

[zenith plinth]

oh ok because i was thinking of a more efficient way to get it and my best shot rn is using the save mod + cheat mod(for like 1000 tougher times and afterburner just to save time) and saving on like stage 1 right before activating the teleporter and hoping that save file gets the wandering vagrant in a good location otherwise delete save and repeat until you get a good one to practice with

will take a lot of luck to get a good save tho

[main smelt]

That's definitely a way to do it, probably more time efficent if anything. Really good if you want to learn to do it consistantly!

[tough belfry]

if you're practicing for the PT vagrant then practice with the PT vagrant

[zenith plinth]

im not practicing for pt. just for runs

and maybe pt if im confident 😛

[main smelt]

Good luck with the practise, slam some Vagrants for me will ya?

[zenith plinth]

lol thanks. however, i found slamming AWU much easier

but i guess that just comes down to practice

[worthy cliff]

Because awu is bigger

The all slamming thing is just getting your hitbox to be inside what you want to slam

If that's the right term ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limpid juniper]

Does anyone know how to avoid lesser wisp attack, that thing aimbot is madness

[crimson veldt]

kill them before they shoot

[tough belfry]

or dodge with abilities, or go behind a wall

[hexed narwhal]

Laughs in Loader main.

[limpid juniper]

Well you cant do merc challenge with Loader so...

I did try that but that is madness they spawn while i have no cover and BAM

[cyan stratus]

if you haven't memorized spawn times just save iframes

[mystic wave]

any tips for speedrunning the prismatic trials?

can't get under 2 min 5 sec

[tough belfry]

what character

[mystic wave]

loader

[tough belfry]

using alt punch?

[mystic wave]

yep

[tough belfry]

<1:50 should be possible i think

[mystic wave]

any thoughts on what time I should be averaging for stage 1?

[tough belfry]

i got 1:01 or something

could go faster

[mystic wave]

ok ty

[tough belfry]

it's probably just small optimisations you need

[mystic wave]

yeah

trying to figure out where I'm going wrong

[tough belfry]

i'll upload a video of my 1:46

can definitely be improved a lot

[tough belfry]

https://youtu.be/CPgG2aBAVxI

[solemn fiber]

bad trial

[tender hull]

vid on how to slam vagrants and such

Woke

[kind isle]

I were happy with my 2:37 huntress time. Looks like I have to try out loader

[cyan stratus]

@tough belfry imagine unironically using alt loader punch i got this 0th try

[tough belfry]

ok but i was handicapped by the alt punch

[cyan stratus]

why

[tough belfry]

what s1 time

[cyan stratus]

idk i didn't have my monitor on

i can go do it again

[tough belfry]

no it's fine

[kind isle]

I were happy with my 2:37 huntress time. Looks like I have to try out loader

[cyan stratus]

like 52s

[tough belfry]

yeah default punch is better

im stupid

i keep flying into space on the vagrant though

[cyan stratus]

save grapple for inversing punch not adding momentum to it

decided to do a rex run for old time's sakes but the 1st crystal is bugged and that reminded me why i dont do that anymore

[wet pulsar]

Hello everyone

Any tips for getting the mercenary:ethereal achievement?

[cyan stratus]

just do it normally but without getting hit

[slim lintel]

whomstve ever used alt loader punch in trials

[limpid juniper]

Yub that how it work Cab.

I figure it out Ness. Wait for the next trial come and hope it easier, if it not cry.

[cyan stratus]

this one is very easy, next one probably harder

[zenith plinth]

but the default special is better 😐

[limpid juniper]

Well that is easy for you tho, that was blazing enemy i cant do it.
If next one harder im crying too.

I just want to unlock every challenge in game tho.

[slim lintel]

dont worry tomorrow is the update and theres a chance hopoo changes the entire challenge because he hates fun

[proven crystal]

oh are we getting mad at the devs now?

[slim lintel]

or rather the player base hates fun

[broken elm]

top 50

lets a go

[zenith plinth]

damn with huntress?

[broken elm]

yeah

[zenith plinth]

gj

[limpid juniper]

Wait the trial not random gen ?

[broken elm]

the seed is

[cyan stratus]

sub 2 as huntress?

interesting

[soft acorn]

@broken elm you got a vid?

[misty nebula]

@cyan stratus Concerning your Merc strategy with slamming enemies, do you think this could be possible using Loader's basic utility? The alt utility has collision and stops on the first enemy, but his basic allows you to travel through enemies. If the enemy is already properly positioned close to environment could loader charge the punch to land inside the Vagrant/Alloy for the velocity transfer? I don't play a lot of loader, but the possibility has got me thinking it might be worth investigating....

[cyan stratus]

idk, try it

[tough belfry]

if you're going to cheat at least make it believable pls

[soft acorn]

alright lads, new team-based challenge coming up

[slim lintel]

cabbage and I will 1 shot that challenge on monsoon