gd2-nullified

[dire rivet]

i got benthic on one of my insane simlacrum runs once i wonder if i still have the footage

[rustic summit]

do we know if it upgrades a randome white to a random green or if it heals one heal item to a higher tier heal item?

[reef swallow]

we do not

[sour zephyr]

Is late game benthicc as horrible as it sounds?

[reef swallow]

but if it does enjoy your billion desk plants and rejuv plants

i mean it's both amazing and horrible late game

[dire rivet]

cos like you can have 15 syringes get turned into 15 greens then the next stage those 15 greens turned into 15 reds lol

[rustic summit]

do cleansing pools work on void items?

[reef swallow]

no

[sour zephyr]

I like horrible things ngl

[rustic summit]

darn

it looks fun AF tho

[quaint violet]

Id honestly buy some Desk Plant Ror2 merch

[rugged garnet]

Have we seen any corrupt mobility items?

[silent sundial]

Can you at least confirm if it affects yellows in any way?

[rustic summit]

your'er run is going to be breifly goaded then utterly useles

[dire rivet]

im 99% certain it doesnt effect lunars/voids/boss items

[modest spire]

sounds great until it's all happiest mask

[lunar arrow]

benthicc turns missles into that new red?

[silent sundial]

Nice ty

[tawdry ember]

and 15 reds turn into 15 shaped glass

[reef swallow]

benthicc is void clover

[rugged garnet]

Could benthicc possibly roll microbots?

[rustic summit]

i love my plasma shrimp :)

[reef swallow]

every stage, 3 stacks of your items get upgraded into stacks of a random higher tier item (white > green > red)

[rustic summit]

and shurikens look fun!

[lunar arrow]

yeah

[reef swallow]

plasma shrimp looks fun for purity builds

i've always wanted them to be a bit more viable

[lunar arrow]

but could it transform atgs into the new red that produce 2 extra missles

[rustic summit]

3 stacks or just 3 items? in the vid we didnt see those items in a stack count of over 1

[reef swallow]

oh... yes it could, any item could turn into any red seemingly

[reef swallow]

suncles confirmed it's 3 stacks

[rustic summit]

sheesh!

[silent sundial]

I HADNT CONSIDERED THAT

[lunar arrow]

interesting

[autumn geode]

500 behemoths

[rustic summit]

plasma shrimp commando busted

[autumn geode]

Flashbang the map

[rustic summit]

not MULT tho he takes too much poke to have shields and benefits too much from healing

[tawdry ember]

why heretic is green now

[lunar arrow]

n'khuanas rejuv trolling

[reef swallow]

so going back to our previous discussion, you can absolutely get 500 chaos bottles from blover

[rugged garnet]

500 ICBMs with corrupt atg

[reef swallow]

and it's going to be fucking nuts

[lunar arrow]

this is what i mean

[autumn geode]

Cus railgunner took her color 😭

[scarlet tapir]

Hi! Dont forget - this channel is for Risk of Rain 2 discussion only! If you want offtopic discussions - please visit #general down in hangouts! Thank you!

[sour zephyr]

bad dyno

beat the bot

[iron plover]

Kill

[reef swallow]

i hope they add void dyno so you can be permanently replaced

[sour zephyr]

Yes

[twin spruce]

Sent it to the void

[tawdry ember]

yeah railgunner bullying starts now

[autumn geode]

Nemesis Chef secret survivor

[silent sundial]

Honestly i dont think it would be terrible to have all reds from bethic

If you think about it, we will have a decent range of effects with all the new reds that damage output has the potential to be insane with reds only

[low laurel]

so
the community manager knew too much?

[reef swallow]

it isn't terrible but it's also going to be a meme

[south mesa]

Survivors of the Kitchen DLC will contain Nemesis Chef

[lunar arrow]

railgunner with will o wisp and max crit?

[reef swallow]

which i think is perfect for void clover

it's basically a lunar

an incredibly wacky lunar

[tawdry ember]

petrichor IV new location

[dull ingot]

Survivors of Hell's Kitchen*

[rugged garnet]

Corrupting important items could also protect them from benthic

[rustic summit]

tfw dual buzzsaw MULT will NEVER be good with plasma shrimp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901517985873921/943249540876730368/squidsad.mp4

[reef swallow]

didn't even think of this

benthic is an actual new game mode

[lunar arrow]

REX😢

[rustic summit]

:/

[reef swallow]

if you're really ballsy with transcendence it can be lol

[rugged garnet]

This just leaves the issue of moving after benthic steals your mocha/goat hooves/energy drink/quail

[south mesa]

Not H*ll’s Kitchen, any risk of rain lore experts knows Chef is an evangelical Christian and would never associate himself with devilry of any kind.

[reef swallow]

better be playing a character that's good with hardlight

[silent sundial]

Combo benthic with survivor changing artifact, equipment changing artifact, and the bottle that activates randoms

[lunar arrow]

then get every white item and pray it doesnt pick hooves

[dull ingot]

he was in Hell's Kitchen to bring light to it, obviously; which is why CHEF has garnered such a following in the community

[rugged garnet]

I guess merc, huntress, loader, and maybe commando and acrid could survive benthic

[reef swallow]

harpoon engineer enjoyers when they get 90 ICBMs and 150 hardlight afterburners from benthic

[rugged garnet]

There weren't any corrupt mobility items shown off yet

[lunar arrow]

new red that quadruples atk speed plz

[haughty citrus]

this dlc is gonna make me piss my pants

[dull ingot]

Who the fuck is void

[tawdry ember]

there's should be a way to unvoid items

[high torrent]

install mystic items

[rustic summit]

who has good base damage to use only red items with benthic?

[reef swallow]

nahhh

[frozen pivot]

new survivor? or item

[rustic summit]

acrid could rock with benthic

[dull ingot]

Can someone send me like the void guy survivor trailer

[silent sundial]

They said permanent. I think it means youre committed

[dull ingot]

void item that makes your current survivor "quirked up (sic)"

And item 🤨

[opaque socket]

#announcements

[lunar arrow]

void items on new character should be extra wacky

[haughty citrus]

so is it at all possible to get rid of void items? like through shrines of order maybe?

[rugged garnet]

There were 2 corrupt items that were seen in the gameplay clip that weren't revealed. There was a bug-looking thing and a fireball/burning potion thing

[reef swallow]

wrong reply but there he is

[frozen pivot]

https://youtu.be/0w782nNivY0

[rustic summit]

LEAN FIEND

[tawdry ember]

void guy

[dull ingot]

Vielen Dank

[lunar arrow]

hellfire ticture void?

[silent sundial]

Heavilly believe the fireball thing is void will of the wisp

[haughty citrus]

does anyone know if this update is gonna come with any kind of balance changes?

[reef swallow]

might be sauce void

[tawdry ember]

lean gondal

[rugged garnet]

Void will-o-the-wisp seems likely

[opaque socket]

It will

[lunar arrow]

oh that makes more sense

[high shoal]

Foid Veind

[reef swallow]

sauce

[rugged garnet]

Wisps are "meta" which fits with the trend we've seen

[haughty citrus]

I assume balance changes of any kind wont be exclusive to DLC

[silent sundial]

Ok but really are we gunna see void equipment? I think primordial cube could fall under that category

[haughty citrus]

that would be odd

[tawdry ember]

ketchp

[rustic summit]

DOES anyone have a lean fiend meme?

[opaque socket]

Yeah, any balance changes to preexisting content will be free

[high shoal]

Liend

[haughty citrus]

given the way that they corrupt other items I sorta doubt it

[rugged garnet]

but what would this do?

[reef swallow]

naw cuz there's no "meta" equipment really

[lunar arrow]

crowdfunder but it takes your health

[high shoal]

Bite you
Then you die

[silent sundial]

I think its gunna be a void polyp

[haughty citrus]

is this cautious slug void?

[reef swallow]

from what it LOOKS like you stack a bleed on something then it explodes when it runs out

[haughty citrus]

looks like a little creature

[opaque socket]

Hitting enemies gives them a stacking debuff that makes them explode after enough stacks I'm pretty sure

[reef swallow]

it's needletick, void tri tip

[granite trench]

Iirc in this clip some enemies had a debuff of some kind on them

[dull ingot]

drugs ... gesture ...

[haughty citrus]

ohh ok

[reef swallow]

void lunar equipment 😳

[silent sundial]

Void polyp or quail is my guess

[rugged garnet]

slow from void fiend primary

[reef swallow]

it's tri tip

[dull ingot]

void lunar equipment got me acting fucked up

[silent sundial]

Is that confirmed?

[frozen pivot]

also, where the heck is the new fanart for the survivor? Railsniper got some around an hour after the trailer hit

[reef swallow]

yea pretty much

[lunar arrow]

void bleed? h o w

[opaque socket]

Yes

[reef swallow]

it's called needletick

[silent sundial]

Bro i gotta know now

Wtf its gunna do

[rugged garnet]

Needletick?

[reef swallow]

and it looks like it does this

though we don't know the exact details

[silent sundial]

Bleed is my favorite item in the game

[rugged garnet]

That just sounds like shatterspleen with extra steps

[silent sundial]

ID RATHER BE A SMART FELLA THAN A FART SMELLA

[opaque socket]

We know that's what it does, we just don't know numbers

[lunar arrow]

void crowbar

[rugged garnet]

One of these voids has to be for movement

[frozen pivot]

so anyone wanna guess whats the name of the new Clay Enemy Variant?

[reef swallow]

i totally think there's gonna be a void crowbar since it's central to a lot of survivors

[haughty citrus]

Clay Construct? Golem?

[reef swallow]

that and syringe maybe? or bands

[rugged garnet]

Void goat hoof?

[haughty citrus]

what do you suppose void crowbar would do?

[silent sundial]

I hope we get void chronobauble and it steals enemies speed

[reef swallow]

one band void that corrupts both runald and kjaro would make sense too

[granite trench]

Void bands would be cool

[reef swallow]

i'd love a void band since they're so meta

[rugged garnet]

For mobility a void hoof, feather, or quail would make sense

[true swallow]

just get a transcendence

[frozen pivot]

so the overall theme of the DLC is the Void

[rustic summit]

void band: does not proc on high damage but causes void reaver death effect on kill

[merry karma]

very true

[rugged garnet]

A void red whip would be too easy, low-hanging fruit, probably not happening

[reef swallow]

void effects have actually been fairly creative besides wungus

like benthic bloom is fucking nutty

[haughty citrus]

yeah I am sorta disappointed by void uke tbh

some of the voids are crazy cool, and more creative than just inverse effects

[rustic summit]

whats the void uke?

[reef swallow]

single target multihit

[rugged garnet]

Chance to repeatedly strike one thing

[haughty citrus]

chance to do extra single target damage instead of chain

[rustic summit]

oh nice

[silent sundial]

I think its interesting that void atg has a condition that needs to be met. Thats makes it unique from any other know item currently, correct?

[reef swallow]

25% chance to hit 3*stacks times

[rustic summit]

where do y'all get the info for all the void items?

[reef swallow]

previous teasers

[rustic summit]

o

[silent sundial]

Your mom was a very informative

[frozen pivot]

hold up, so theres a chance for it to multiply damage output by 3?

[rustic summit]

😔

[reef swallow]

bloom requires you to have items...?
but yea

[frozen pivot]

is that where Im getting at?

[reef swallow]

it has it's own damage and proc coeff

[frozen pivot]

oh ok

[reef swallow]

it's extremely nutty single target damage but no aoe proc chains

[frozen pivot]

what's the damage coefficient

[rustic summit]

i want a void item that can proc the void reaver death effect

[reef swallow]

80% total

[rustic summit]

liek void bands on kill

[frozen pivot]

TOTAL?

[true swallow]

void uke with void atg will be kinda nutty

[silent sundial]

Well i mean something thats more direct. Bloom with items is like..when will you never be getting new items? But taking void atg means you have to always try and avoid damahe or at least get trans

[reef swallow]

well, plasma shrimp does give you 10% shield on pickup

[silent sundial]

That too

[haughty citrus]

I like the shield synergy

[reef swallow]

it just encourages psg and transcendence

[silent sundial]

But i said that cuz shield will go down

[frozen pivot]

so its an additional 240% of TOTAL Damage, bro wtf ?

[silent sundial]

Lol @ players who always shit on psg

[rustic summit]

any1 know what void dio's will do? or if thats tougher times?

[haughty citrus]

so I imagine the shield is differently colored because of the void survivor? or it could be cause of the plasma shrimp

[frozen pivot]

imagine procing that void uke with the obliterator laser beam?

[reef swallow]

yep it's nutty. and you get more hits per puke

[frozen pivot]

thats like, a lot of damage

[reef swallow]

molten perforator with 1 or 2 clovers and 20 pukes = game crash

[true swallow]

i believe its tougher times

[rugged garnet]

Also, the void key appeared to consume itself, like the rusted key. If a rusted key was picked up after, would it stay uncorrupted?

[leaden mulch]

Now imagine with razor wire

[true swallow]

probably not

[silent sundial]

Ye i mentioned this before

Always grab an extra key if you wanna keep finding void shit

Otherwise youll be camping a single key for a while

[willow raft]

how will multi-player with the doctor work with people who don't have it

[reef swallow]

they can play with you but they can't play as railgunner or void fiend and can't unlock stuff

[willow raft]

dlc

[reef swallow]

so they can go to the new stages, play simulacrum, fight new final boss etc.

[willow raft]

ok

Epic

[reef swallow]

and steam too

[frozen pivot]

non-DIC players can play DLC as long as they join lobby leader with DLC

[willow raft]

ok that's cool

[rustic summit]

preobably not get dlc survivors tho

if i had to guess

[iron plover]

yeah no dlc = no survivors, no unlocks

[regal ledge]

[willow raft]

hopoo games with user friendly design again, I love em

[iron plover]

"Only one player is required to own Survivors of the Void to enable the monsters, levels, and items to appear in-game for the whole lobby. Players without Survivors of the Void will be unable to select the two new survivors or permanently unlock new items, logbooks, or other content."

doesn't even have to be the host i think

[regal ledge]

oops

bungus twice

[frozen pivot]

aye, for a $15 DLC, two survivors? nine monsters? a couple maps? banger music? its a sweet value

[iron plover]

40! items

[regal ledge]

on god

[reef swallow]

it's also on sale when it launches

[high torrent]

hopoo games lawsuit arc

[frozen pivot]

FOURTY, FUCKING ITEMS

[rustic summit]

sheesh

[merry karma]

HAHAH

[high torrent]

that's just mystic items lol

[iron plover]

that's like, almost 2-3 content updates worth!

[high torrent]

dude that dlc doesn't even cost 10 bucks

[frozen pivot]

still new items

[muted peak]

Unmuted, let’s go baby

[rustic summit]

i m??is?s my? w?ife?

[muted peak]

Time to immediately get muted again

[iron plover]

Official™️ items

none of that third party modded stuff

[merry karma]

mystics items are cooler and more balanced tho

[iron plover]

yeah but Donut

[bright trellis]

Stupid question, do you think that the Void Fiend could be the Commando from the first game ?

[frozen pivot]

WhAt? nO iTeMs? No ItEmS, nO PaAaAaAaAaAaAaAasSsSsSsSs.....

[high torrent]

I can get sniper classic, some halfbaked orbzeeter survivor and as many items as I want for free
the only thing I'm paying for with dlc is new final boss, stage, and enemies because modders never had tools for that

[iron plover]

john hopoo said No

[rustic summit]

it prolly is

hopoo said no? cringe!

[sudden gust]

It was for a few minutes then got retconned

[reef swallow]

it was cooler when he was

[iron plover]

#theorycrafting message

[rustic summit]

that makes them less interesting and makes ror1 less tragic

[iron plover]

refer to

[frozen pivot]

I think the new survivor came from the Void

[fierce elk]

nah

[high torrent]

I came into void

[rustic summit]

it would be so lit if commando genocided the planet, killed providence just to escape, and then get yoinked by void police lol

[fierce elk]

sus??

[high torrent]

I'm void fellas father

[iron plover]

save some vitches for the rest of us, damn

[muted peak]

Source??

[novel river]

Ok, does anyone one know remotely when the dlc will be released?

[rugged garnet]

That says nothing about the dozens of commandos who died around the rescue ships

[muted peak]

March 1st

[high torrent]

vitches are hexing the moone bro

[high torrent]

June 31st

[iron plover]

wack

[uncut hatch]

void fiend is just the amalgamation of all the successful ror1 survivors across all timelines

except acrid

acrid is too pure

[iron plover]

where han-d

[novel river]

are you guys mocking me? lol, or do you uys actually mean it?

[rugged garnet]

The ror1 commando being the only one to live to tell the tale is tragic enough. He saw every single one of his comrades die

[high torrent]

idk bro check sources

[reef swallow]

it's march 1st for real

[empty current]

Lean fiend

[reef swallow]

just two weeks

[muted peak]

It’s March 1st, check the ending for either the railgunner or void fiend showcase if you don’t believe us

[uncut hatch]

march 1st
then we'll tell you that we were joking

[sudden gust]

The person who said June is probably mocking you. March 1st is confirmed for PC

[novel river]

Ok, thanks guys!

[high torrent]

like check steam page or something

[reef swallow]

np

[muted peak]

👍👍

[frozen pivot]

time to have my first playthrough with the new DLC with Command, Swarm, and Sacrifice active

[iron plover]

bruh my lean meter at 97% i'm boutta transform into Lean Mode

[hardy plank]

February 29th

[sudden gust]

When’s the next leap year 😢

[empty current]

At least we finally know what the reavers are made of

[muted peak]

Anyone notice that corrupted drown looks like hamakamahah from dragon all Z?? Goku confirmed for RoR2??

[uncut hatch]

march 1st is the release date yes
its a little funny that it can also be a joke answer

[vague vale]

Never mind the fact that I was ignoring the enemies, WHAT

[faint onyx]

Cum

[echo matrix]

I can't believe it. Gd2 is being used

[empty current]

Hey guys, its me goku!

[echo matrix]

Dark days upon us truly

[twin panther]

i just realized that huntress looks like the wild wing from mkwii

😳

[hardy plank]

No way! Is this the real goku?

[uncut hatch]

hotrodtress

[empty current]

Goku

[faint onyx]

Its almost like gd1 is unusable

[frozen pivot]

well, when GD1 is inaccessible, it kinda makes sense

[echo matrix]

What's gd1

[uncut hatch]

dead

[visual mesa]

I hope captain doesn't become super OP in this DLC... It looks like a lot of the attacks are projectiles

[left lotus]

fun 😔

[hardy plank]

It's only a burning memory

[frozen pivot]

gd2

[echo matrix]

How is everyone doing I haven't been by in a very long time

[twin panther]

oh right

[uncut hatch]

omg its huntress from the hit game mario party

[muted peak]

I got muted for gd1 moment, very sad

[twin panther]

railgunner or void guy

[frozen pivot]

yes

[faint onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/everywhere-at-the-end-of-time-its-just-a-burning-memory-backrooms-the-caretaker-trollge-gif-24774320

[left lotus]

Are you under the impression Captain isn't already super OP?

[hardy plank]

Bad, what about you?

Hi cherry

[frozen pivot]

hi

[dull ingot]

do ya'll think this dlc is the last expansion

[twin panther]

no

[austere osprey]

RIP #gd1-nullified

[muted peak]

No

[hardy plank]

How are you?

[muted peak]

Isn’t there already another planned one?

[twin panther]

i bet there is gonna be one more

[echo matrix]

Bad my chronic injury has left me unwalkable today!

[left lotus]

They talk about Imp update?

[remote jasper]

Considering it’s the first one, probably not

[hardy plank]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-2219-meme-wow-yes-gif-22915194

[uncut hatch]

captain is the guy who doesnt realize 20 things are shooting at him until a malachite wisp 1 taps him

[visual mesa]

He is OP, but hope this doesn't make him even MORE so

[dull ingot]

"This is the soundtrack to the Risk of Rain 2 DLC, Survivors of the Void.

This album marks the end of a spiral that was set into motion almost ten years ago. This music brings us full circle, only one level above.

It has been an honor and a privilege.
Chris"

[frozen pivot]

Doin good, gonna work on commissions in a couple minutes.

[dull ingot]

from chris's bandcamp

[hardy plank]

Aw damn 😔

[echo matrix]

Hello gordon

[fast pecan]

ah so is chris no longer making ror2 music?

[dull ingot]

im not sure

[frozen pivot]

He just did tho

[dull ingot]

could also mean that this is the last expansion

[muted peak]

Hope not

[dull ingot]

after all dlcs won't make as much money as a new game

[echo matrix]

Or it could be a ming game

[fast pecan]

i figure they're making more than one expansion for ror2

[hardy plank]

They said they want to make at least 2

[left lotus]

Idk, I doubt it. There will surely be some great items on him but the percentage of items that are super good on him probably won't change much.

[uneven root]

Thought they said they’re making more than one

[quasi ginkgo]

Careful when saying g*1

[gaunt aspen]

gd1

[dull ingot]

i don't think they made any promises

[muted peak]

Maybe Chris made like 5 years worth of music

[austere osprey]

slimes look cool

[remote jasper]

We don’t talk about gd1

[echo matrix]

Nononono

[uncut hatch]

gup for president

[visual mesa]

Corrupted Defensive microbots? 😋 😋

[dull ingot]

it's more lucrative to make a new game theres no reason to make more dlcs

[remote jasper]

Shoots you instead.

[muted peak]

OFFENSIVE MICROBOTS

[wild umbra]

what happened

[hardy plank]

Hi ccrab

[frozen pivot]

Corrupted Gesture of the Drowned

[wild umbra]

hi pen

[bright flint]

Nothin

[muted peak]

Gd1 is kil

[faint onyx]

The next ror2 dlc will take place in the red plains

[frozen pivot]

[hardy plank]

It's only a burning memory

[wild umbra]

damn

[bright flint]

It's too much to explain in one message

[left lotus]

No? Established playerbase, consistent revenue....

[hardy plank]

How are you?

[left lotus]

Coming up with a whole new IP is really hard

[faint onyx]

Risk of rain 3

[austere osprey]

damn both of the new survivors look amazing

[dull ingot]

could be a new ror game lol

[left lotus]

especially if you want it to succeed.

[dull ingot]

thats the safest play

[faint onyx]

Deadbolt 2 tbh

[wild umbra]

i’m ballin. idk if i told y’all yet but i got a job and it’s going good

[muted peak]

Risk of Rain: Tactics

[rugged garnet]

What would it be about? Providence and Mithrix are dead

[visual mesa]

Deadbolt 2 would be awesome

[quasi ginkgo]

Risk of Rain: Global Offensive

[dull ingot]

im sure they can come up with something

[hardy plank]

Oh nice 👍

[faint onyx]

Imp emperor, king of sluts

[dull ingot]

the lore doesn't matter

[quasi ginkgo]

RoR GO

[dull ingot]

they can always improvise

[wild umbra]

workin at dominoes during a superbowl was INTENSE

[muted peak]

RoR: 76

[faint onyx]

They did just pull void crabs outta their ass

[frozen pivot]

Also... Does anyone know if the base game will go on sale too? Thinking about picking up an extra copy for Mod Troubleshooting reasons

[wild umbra]

like holy mama

[visual mesa]

Risk of Counter: Strike

[dull ingot]

$15 for the dlc is so much

[hardy plank]

Did you get free pizza tho?

[bright flint]

That's unclear

[dull ingot]

$10 overpriced kinda

[faint onyx]

Is it?

[bright flint]

It really isn't

[rugged garnet]

They'd probably have to blow up another cargo ship if a ROR3 happened anywhere other than petrichor 5

[left lotus]

Pardon?

[dull ingot]

base game is $25

[uncut hatch]

risk of rain: one

[left lotus]

xd

[muted peak]

The dlc will be $9.75 on the release day

[bright flint]

Like, it isn't at all overpriced

[dull ingot]

has like 10 stages

10 survivors

the dlc has like 4 stages 2 survivors

[wild umbra]

oh yeah. dominoes #1

[left lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cat-petting-squishing-gif-20667782

[dull ingot]

it ain't even close

[visual mesa]

Hey if you don't agree with the price just don't buy it lmao

[hardy plank]

😎

[quasi ginkgo]

15 dollars is finely priced

[frozen pivot]

Cope

[faint onyx]

I have $15

[dull ingot]

im just speaking fax -_-

[quasi ginkgo]

epic em

[fast pecan]

most people paid 25 bucks for a game they've got 100+ hours for, a 15 dollar dlc is well worth the time investment

[bright flint]

No, you are not

Nobody agrees with you

[faint onyx]

Speaking like a broke mf

[muted peak]

Also I don’t think the price is finalized yet, didn’t they say it could change at any moment?

[left lotus]

Why would everyone disagree with you then?

[quasi ginkgo]

And I'm a 7 ft tall purple platypus bear

[hardy plank]

Your mother (real) (not fake) (factual)

[faint onyx]

I paid $15 since it was before 1.0

[uncut hatch]

$25 is extremely cheap for such a great game
$15 for an extension to that game is reasonable

[visual mesa]

How would you price the dlc lan?

[left lotus]

Can you swallow your own ego because it is probably bigger than my mother

[dull ingot]

just cause i have money to buy something doesn't mean it isn't overpriced

[visual mesa]

LMAO

[quasi ginkgo]

Who said that?

[bright flint]

$25 for a game you can sink hundreds of hours into, that's worth every cent

[fickle bolt]

Seethe

[gloomy totem]

I have seen way less content priced at way more, I think 15 is fine and the discount on release date's even better

[bright flint]

And for a $15 expansion, that's nothing

[fast pecan]

i think like 60+ is a high price for a game you wouldn't play for long, 40 combined dollars for ror2 is still a steal

[visual mesa]

just cause 3

[bright flint]

I got JC3 for $8 with all dlc I think

[visual mesa]

Pay the full price of the game for 1 vehicle

[muted peak]

The DLC adds a lot more than just a few stages and survivors, it adds like 40 items, a entirely new item tier, also lots of new mechanics that were implemented

[uncut hatch]

base ror2 is underpriced as hell
the dlc is actually a reasonable price

[echo matrix]

I sure do love developer's starving for your dollar to fun ratio

[left lotus]

If a 20 hour game is good I don't mind paying 60$ for it

[gloomy totem]

And a whole new gamemode

[bright flint]

That's like saying Monster Hunter World Iceborne is overpriced

[lethal swan]

exactly

[left lotus]

Don't regret purchasing Doom Eternal

[dull ingot]

the game is very fun for it's price but a lot of indie games are like that

[visual mesa]

BRO THE GAME MODE

[echo matrix]

Based unicorn

[dull ingot]

that's a low bar to look at it imo

[fickle bolt]

4 stages new final boss 37 (i think) new items many new enemies new music and 2 new survivors. 100% worth the price

[visual mesa]

I CANT WAIT TO LITERALLY JUST GRIND IT

[bright trellis]

Am i the only person thinking that the big teased boss is the Titant Dweevil from Pikmin ?

[bright flint]

Good, go to other indie games and cry about the price elsewhere

[rugged garnet]

If this wasn't Hopoo, the 1.0 update would have been a $15 DLC, bandit would have been $5 alone, the rest of anniversery would have been $10

[quasi ginkgo]

Mi cuando unos DEVELOPERS quieres Unos dinero

[frozen pivot]

Yoooooo imagine if the next DLC will be Beetle Themed

[dull ingot]

ya'll toxic

[fickle bolt]

Oh yes, new game mode too

[dull ingot]

smh

[echo matrix]

The reason that indie games are priced like that is because they are afraid to put it for what it's worth. Because it will drive down sales

[uncut hatch]

i think the difference between doom eternal most other AAA games is that i would go back to doom eternal over and over again bc its just fun

[muted peak]

Would be pretty cool, they could also add clayman and other tar based items

[left lotus]

No, you just have trash take and you will take the heat for it smh

[dull ingot]

hmm good point

[frozen pivot]

They added a new Monster into the Clay Family too

Some, pot chucking fucker

[muted peak]

Fr? Was it the giant golem

[echo matrix]

Now that hopoo has a customer base they are putting the dlc for what will make them the best money for their time invested

[gloomy totem]

There is so much lore in this gamethey could make one on anything. Nuhkahana, tar, and so much else

[fickle bolt]

You in the RoR2 server saying the game isn't worth the price. What did you expect lol?

[dull ingot]

all im sayin' is that compared to the base price and content of the game the dlc is a bit much

[visual mesa]

4 new stages 2 new survivors a dozen items a bunch more secrets A BOSS AND AN ENTIRE GAMEMODE???

[bright flint]

It isn't

[frozen pivot]

I think so, it was clearly showed in the new Void Survivor Gameplay, Stage 2

[left lotus]

True, I've done another playthrough of the game, it's a lot of fun. Also the game is art, how do people have so much time to make something look that good?

[muted peak]

The DLC will have a $5 discount ON the release date, that’s pretty generous

[echo matrix]

They worked hard they shouldn't have to struggle to make ends meet because you think the dlc should be 5 bucks

[fickle bolt]

Much more than a dozen, like 37 iirc

[dull ingot]

if you wanna put price and content in a 1:1 ratio

[uncut hatch]

id likes what they do and it shows

[quasi ginkgo]

The dlc hasn't even come out yet, there is still unknown stuff

[echo matrix]

Please dont

[dull ingot]

the dlc gets blown out of the park by the base game

[uncut hatch]

thats probably the best answer i can think of

[slender brook]

translation: I'm salty that i got ass blasted for my shitty take

[visual mesa]

It's an expansion

It's not suppose to surpass the base game

[empty current]

Expand upon lean lore

[quasi ginkgo]

Indie devs want money 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 🥜

[rugged garnet]

4 stages, 2 survivors, a new gamemode, completely new mechanics, there's a lot for this dlc

[bright flint]

Peanut

[quasi ginkgo]

Peanut allergy moment

[uncut hatch]

if i was gonna give money for it on a 1:1 ratio for the dlc id be giving more money for the base game

[gloomy totem]

An expansion releasing like a quarter of the content at launch as well

[vocal quail]

how low can an ability cooldown get? what's the minimum

[bright flint]

0

[empty current]

Indie devs making one of the best games you’ve ever played for 9.99$

[visual mesa]

0.5 seconds

[left lotus]

Well it's kind of like they're not separate entities or something, and the DLC builds on the base game... Huh, that's pretty wild dude.....

[bright flint]

I was close

[gloomy totem]

0.5

[vocal quail]

thanks

[visual mesa]

Global cooldown

[dull ingot]

it's discounted to $10 at launch because that's the actual worth of the dlc, it's just discounted to incentivize people to buy it

[bright flint]

No that is not the actual worth

[dull ingot]

few people would buy the dlc at $15

[bright flint]

You're on some weird shit

[fickle bolt]

Holy shit that's how a sale works

[muted peak]

They can only make a deal like that because the dlc will be priced at $15

[uncut hatch]

you are the only one here saying that

[visual mesa]

LOL

[quasi ginkgo]

Not to mention they already put work in the cum before with anniversary for free

[empty current]

Are you high

You sound high

[left lotus]

You should go into marketing your pretty smart.

[fickle bolt]

Every person here would, but you

[uncut hatch]

let that sink in

[slender brook]

maybe you value $15 more than everyone else

[bright flint]

Yeah $15 isn't even a lot of money 💀

[dull ingot]

well yah ya'll would buy it cause ya'll are the most dedicated players

[quasi ginkgo]

The sink is incapable of moving on its own

[dull ingot]

but not everyone plays the game as much

[empty current]

15 dollars is enough for a decent lunch

[frozen pivot]

Indie devs investing their time and resources to make additional content so they can make money to support themselves. What mad Men.

[muted peak]

THAN DONT BUY THE DLC

[quaint violet]

but is your tap running?

[visual mesa]

Okay at this point it's just restating the obvious

[gaunt aspen]

omg! he's figured it out! hopoo are actually just criminal masterminds and they are going to destroy the entire world!

[south mesa]

shoutout to the ROR2 buy one get one free sale

[quasi ginkgo]

CPAPTISLISM 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 🥜

[uncut hatch]

look if you dont think its worth $15 thats your business
most of us do think its worth that much and bitching about it to us is gonna get push back

[left lotus]

Yeah bro most decent dinners cost that much even if I played for like 10 hours that honestly worth it I think

[muted peak]

DLC is for old players to find new passion in a game they already like

[empty current]

They’re making real life reavers

[slender brook]

this is "consumer advocacy" at its finest

[quasi ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/kjaro-band-kjaros-band-ror2-risk-of-rain-gif-22033557

[bright flint]

I'm starting to think that he lied when he said he had $15

[empty current]

Justifying being poor

[limpid drum]

for $15 voidmando better void my

[quasi ginkgo]

😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 🥜 MAKING PRODIT

[empty current]

Ok did we get to see a mastery skin though

[left lotus]

When foodstamps don't cover voidussy 😔 💀 😭

[visual mesa]

We got a new commando lock in anim

[empty current]

His mastery skin better just be a somewhat commando paintjob

[muted peak]

Can’t buy the lean fiend on welfare

[dull ingot]

lean fiend

[dull ingot]

thank you

[slender brook]

YES KING

[turbid kraken]

Do the numbers at the bottom of the please stand by screen in the new dev thoughts mean anything

[simple rock]

Have they released details on how backup mag works ok railgunner?

[dull ingot]

honestly i wish they released more survivors

[rugged garnet]

Oh, and void fiend's got the exact same dump truck commando has

[past valve]

Can we discuss SoTV stuff here?

[quasi ginkgo]

I think suncles might've said somewhere

[empty current]

Bro that shit would take forever

Honestly same tho

[visual mesa]

Maybe they shift to the Utility

[uncut hatch]

enough clowing on the guy
people have preferences and sometimes they talk out of line but lanz definitely feels strongly enough to argue about it

[reef swallow]

more shots before reload

[empty current]

Then again i think they’re making at least one more expansion

[visual mesa]

And hardlight just stops working lol

[uncut hatch]

i dont care enough honestly

[visual mesa]

Oh crap yeah

[clear flicker]

why is discussion 1 now locked for me?

[uncut hatch]

its locked

[empty current]

If is for everyone

[slender brook]

@dull ingot I have $25 to spare, and I'll be buying the dlc at launch. If you want i can buy you the dlc

[empty current]

The mods couldn’t stop the lean fiend so they locked it

[clear flicker]

ah makes senice

[dull ingot]

im good brah thanks for the offer

[slender brook]

yea np

[dull ingot]

i'm getting it probably

[clear flicker]

hey if u get it day one it should be 9.75$ insead of 15

[empty current]

Mocha item should’ve been lean

[quasi ginkgo]

🕵️ (3rd dlc leaked)

[dull ingot]

purple drank

[left lotus]

I'm too poor, I spent my 15$ to buy 2 hamburgers I ate in 30min 😔

[quasi ginkgo]

Jamburge

[slender brook]

burg

[clear flicker]

im def getting

[uncut hatch]

yknow i just want a purple role already

[bright flint]

I don't give my money to greedy devs 😠

I'll be buying it on console launch

[empty current]

Lean fiend purple coming soon

[dull ingot]

omg reaper in risk of rain!!!!!1

[uncut hatch]

nice

[quasi ginkgo]

Jamburge looks funny

[clear flicker]

how are they being greedy unless ur be sarcasti

[lyric lynx]

I really hope Railgunner doesn't have to scope in and out constantly like the previews showed.

[left lotus]

Well allegedly your version of the game will actually work now, that's neat.

[uncut hatch]

a shame it wont accurately reflect my playstyle but oh well

[slender brook]

i hope it's cannon that void fiend died of a lean overdose and that's how they got corrupted

[dull ingot]

that'd be cool if you can shoot at weakpoints without scoping in

[timber skiff]

i almost got to mithrix phase 4 for the first time

[dull ingot]

like you can remember the weakpoints n shit

[timber skiff]

game suddenly decided i should be hit in an area when i wasnt getting hit in that area before, instantly died

[uncut hatch]

i have no idea why lean has become such a meme and at this point im afraid to ask

[left lotus]

But isn't that like the whole thing with a sniper character? Maybe it's not for you?

[clear flicker]

i hope void boi is super fun

[rustic summit]

its funny!

[slender brook]

purple drank + purple man = comedy

[rustic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/leantrap-i-love-lean-springtrap-lean-fnaf-gif-24807011

[clear flicker]

ima bet hes unlcoked during a void challage like get alot of void items

[dull ingot]

i wish the corrupted form looked different

instead of just red

bro vamped out like carti

[slender brook]

idk why it's red though

[clear flicker]

well his skin could look diff

[dull ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/playboi-carti-edit-playboi-carti-red-edit-whole-lotta-red-carti-playboi-carti-whole-lotta-red-virtual-concert-red-gif-22165878

[rancid pecan]

does anyone have mobile wallpapers? i have the older version of the wallpaper as my lock screen and id like to update it

[uncut hatch]

the red plane's influence ||foreshadowing noises||

[rugged garnet]

My guess is one of the survivors will be unlocked for reaching a certain score in Simulacrum

[slender brook]

that's probably how you get lean fiend

[earnest patrol]

There’s always alt fire

[dull ingot]

his sprint animation could be cooler

[lyric lynx]

The scope is fine, it's the constant changing that's a problem

[bright flint]

Damn that's a bit flashy and bright

[clear flicker]

atleast one of the survivers is beating the new final boss for sure

[bright flint]

Don't quite like that one

[dull ingot]

i wish he would run on 4 like a gorilla or something lol

with the big claw

[slender brook]

acrid

he does that

[dull ingot]

nah he jus floats

[slender brook]

no i mean acrid runs on all 4s

[dull ingot]

when he sprint

yeah it's dope

[uncut hatch]

acrid either shimmies or sprints on all fours

[clear flicker]

one thing i will do is once mods are updated after i play and get everything i want to see how good/bad void essence is

[bright flint]

It's probably like Engi's harpoons

[left lotus]

I think I will like this lean fiend guy, their gameplay looks very fun to me. I'm not super sold on Railgunner (gameplay or design) but I'm sure the devs will iterate on her.

[dull ingot]

hope they change some old survivors

[slender brook]

is it ever stated how acrid was created

[dull ingot]

some abilities are underpowered af

[uncut hatch]

huntress buffs

commando buffs

[clear flicker]

hes a creature from the plante

[bright flint]

That's just how it be

[dull ingot]

why tf does everyone want huntress buff isn't she S tier

[bright flint]

Definitely not

[clear flicker]

think some more lore in in ror1

[left lotus]

[dull ingot]

who is better than huntress

[bright flint]

Me

[slender brook]

acrid crashed onto petrichor 5 in ror1

[uncut hatch]

huntress is overrated but shes far from bad

[dull ingot]

other than loader

[left lotus]

God yes, he needs a bit of love. The game is leaving him behind.

[dull ingot]

just buff phase round mannn

[uncut hatch]

engineer is better, captain is better, rex is better, mul-t is leagues better

[dull ingot]

bro how is engineer better

[dull ingot]

yo, vamp?

she doesn't have anywhere close the mobility

[rugged garnet]

Tbh commando is in a good spot right now, especially after this DLC gives new items

[left lotus]

Mul-T and Huntress aren't even on the same plain of existance.

[slender brook]

excuse me sir but you're leaving out a certain lady-chad

[dull ingot]

vamp anthem

JumpOutTheHouse

[clear flicker]

i may do a heratic run in the void update

[uncut hatch]

uhhhh
Artificer?
hes acknowledged loader is better so theres no need to mention her

[slender brook]

oh

nvm then

[dull ingot]

huntress is way more consistent than everyone except loader

[slender brook]

ehhhhh

[uncut hatch]

id like to see roll buffed

[dull ingot]

i think arrow rain needs a buff that's all

huntress is way worse without ballista

[slender brook]

mult with power mode and double nail guns is nuts

[rustic summit]

consistently BAD!

[uncut hatch]

both arrow rain and ballista are meh

[dull ingot]

ballista is 3 x 900

[uncut hatch]

arrow rain is 2090 in an aoe

[rugged garnet]

Huntress' alt shift is way too flexible for her not to be consistent

[left lotus]

Idk, no sustain, mediocre mobility, poor and inconsistent AoE, M1 scales well but is lacking early. I've played him a fair bit (along with everyone else) and he's always stood out as being really underwhelming

[dull ingot]

huntress is just the second best survivor easily

ratio

[slender brook]

no

[merry karma]

everyone

[left lotus]

It would be cooler if he had more defined strengths and weaknesses.

[uncut hatch]

engineer is up there imo

[dull ingot]

yikes

i never play huntress but she's rly good lol

[left lotus]

Hmm.

[high torrent]

engineer is down there hugging huntress imo

[dull ingot]

never play her because she's for normies

[uncut hatch]

hes hard to rank but ive found way too much consistency with engineer that has no business being there honestly

[dull ingot]

i jus play commando cause im a chad

[granite trench]

Engineer can make a god run out of pretty much any run

He works so well with items

[high torrent]

you are mixing up "easy to use" and "deals damage in interesting ways"

[left lotus]

Struggles a bit early but literally every item is solid on him.

[dull ingot]

huntress does damage bruh

she has ballista

[granite trench]

And even without items you can probably find a way to cheese most bosses using turrets

[high torrent]

yeah
half commandos

[dull ingot]

okay maybe bandit is second best i forgot about him

bandit is quite goated

[high torrent]

ballista is so ass bro
can't even one shot the golem from single usage

[uncut hatch]

i mean mul-t has nailgun

[dull ingot]

but huntress is top tier no cap

nail gun is reliant on procs

[uncut hatch]

so is ballista

[dull ingot]

no?

[uncut hatch]

yeah

[dull ingot]

ballista does 3 x 900

[high torrent]

huntress has m1 that is literally toothpicks
m2 that doesn't work on single targets
decent mobility
and fucking whole 12 minutes on waiting to deal normal damage

[left lotus]

Ok sorry Commado mains but just Ballista is stronger than most of his kit. At least her mobility is a clear strength and she is good with bands.

[uncut hatch]

and nailgun does that much in like 3 seconds

[high torrent]

12 seconds

[uncut hatch]

ballista has a 12 second cooldown

[high torrent]

12 FUCKING SECONDS OF BALLISTA RECHARGE GUYS ITS NOT OKAY

[craggy geyser]

skill issue

[dull ingot]

it's fine bro

[cerulean spire]

if you use nailgun on mult you are a coward. Two saws power mode or uninstall

[granite trench]

Ballista is great until you get to enemies who dont get 1 shotted by it

[dull ingot]

she literally doesn't have to aim

commando has damage drop off

[high torrent]

bro I would rather aim

[left lotus]

Have you ever speed fired ballista with brainstalks? It's so fun.

[dull ingot]

huntress can stay in comfortable range and do damage

[uncut hatch]

ballista works and its ok but it far from a great skill

[cerulean spire]

bro I have a huntress role I can personally confirm huntress not having to aim is boring as fuck

[high torrent]

he doesn't if you play him in mid range which is better anyways

[rugged garnet]

Scrap launcher Mul-t

[dull ingot]

name 10 skills better than ballista

[high torrent]

I don't care about getting one specific red item

[cerulean spire]

Eviscerate slicing winds thunder punch normal punch Rex spam m2 situationally arrow rain hack beacon orbital strike bandit special acrid pandemic

[plain plinth]

Arrow Rain

[dull ingot]

ratio

[left lotus]

I disagree, safe, good band proc, vertical mobility, 1.0 x %900 if it starts procs it's very good.

[rustic summit]

all rex abilities (excluding harvest), all captiatn abilities excluding taser

[uncut hatch]

double tap, laser glaive, eviscerate, tangling growth, anything loader has,
vulcan shotgun,

is that 10 yet

[opal pumice]

Has the UES terminal Password been found?

[dull ingot]

primary doesn't count -_-

[uncut hatch]

nano bomb

[rustic summit]

artificer and huntress players drinking so much copium

[uncut hatch]

engineer's turrets

[summer canyon]

You are LATE bro look in #theorycrafting pins

[uncut hatch]

transport mode

[dull ingot]

ballista literally one of the most consistent damage abilities

[high torrent]

nanobomb
phase blast
chraged punch
thunder gauntlet
orbital probe
desperado
seed barrage
bramble volley

[opal pumice]

ahhh, ty

[rustic summit]

rex m2

[cerulean spire]

only specials?
all of captains except one
pandemic
Evis / slicing winds
Turrets
Power mode mult
Bandit special
Flamethrower

[high torrent]

the fuck consistent means dude

[cerulean spire]

only specials.

[uncut hatch]

glaive still easily does more damage than it

[median gorge]

Lights Out
Desperado
Beacon: Hacking
Tangling Growth
Slicing Winds
Charged Gauntlet
Thunder Gauntlet
Nano Bomb
Flamethrower
Seed Barrage

[onyx ice]

i just nutted when i saw the big crab guy

[dull ingot]

flamethrower is way worse than ballista bruther

[slender brook]

this is objectively true

[rustic summit]

name 1 survivor worse than huntress or arti!

[uncut hatch]

commando

[plain plinth]

Now I like huntress...but let's not oversell her damage. It's her mobility that's good, not the other stuff.

[high torrent]

4k per use is worse than 2.7k yeaaa right

[cerulean spire]

you meant to add a tier above god for heretic but otherwise sure

[craggy geyser]

skill issue

[empty current]

Don’t clown on funny lady

[dull ingot]

it takes like 3 seconds for you to use the flamethrower and it's close range

[north saffron]

I'd just be happy if they made his grenade into a sticky bomb if it touches an enemy.

[cerulean spire]

You play Huntress for triple.blink and that's it and I have the huntress role so I'm the be all end all authority on this topic.

[empty current]

Funny arti can kill god

[molten crater]

Now hold on Captain is very much in the God tier

[dull ingot]

im not gonna argue with ya'll

[median gorge]

22 opportunities to proc on hit effects in addition to applying the flame debuff

[cerulean spire]

triple blink is the only reason huntress is good

[high torrent]

and? what's bad about it? if you die in close range that's a skill issue

[median gorge]

Ballista is functional but it isn't very good

[left lotus]

I agree, lot's of Commando player get super offended at the idea of grenade buffs idk. (that ive spoken to)

[median gorge]

Flamethrower is also on a much shorter cooldown

[cerulean spire]

ballista is good but there are better

[dull ingot]

yeah and ill watch you play and you won't die close range

because you're so good

[slender brook]

dying in close range is the perfect description for merc

[dull ingot]

you never get hit

[empty current]

If you’re bad with flamethrower just go with the pussy tool, which i use

Ion surge

[cerulean spire]

thank you

[quasi ginkgo]

Wait I came back and bad opinion said huntress 2nd/3rd when mult, loader?

[high torrent]

bro like this game is literally for babies stop acting like it's hard

[inner ivy]

Theoretically, with enough teddy bears, yes

[amber cargo]

ion surge does more immediate damage as opposed to damage over time so its better

[empty current]

You have never tried eclipse

[high torrent]

you can pull off basically anything with little to no effort

[plain plinth]

You can't buff that which can't hit in the first place.

[dull ingot]

man never loses a risk of rain 2 run

[slender brook]

eclipse smells bad

[cerulean spire]

this is so true people build meta so much for an easy game

[empty current]

That’s honestly true

[quasi ginkgo]

Rex

[cerulean spire]

I'd play eclipse but it's single player only so that's dumb.

[median gorge]

Eclipse is fun

[quasi ginkgo]

Mods

[dull ingot]

literally play eclipse and you will realize that huntress is top 3

[empty current]

Ehhhhhh

[wind canopy]

please buff grenades

[bright flint]

Yes but I'm still pretty bad so far

[inner ivy]

If the game is too easy then simply try to beat Monsoon with a beetle

[north saffron]

That's why I recommened it sticking to enemies.

[high torrent]

huntress is so shafted she's not even affected by e modifiers lmao

[empty current]

Still not enough damage output

[cerulean spire]

skill issue on my friends' end for mods sadly

[median gorge]

I have E8 on Huntress and while she is stronger in eclipse than some others, its because the downsides don't impact her as much not because she's strong by default.

[bright flint]

I mean you can beat the game with no items already

[uncut hatch]

huntress is reliable actually
her main issues imo are her special attacks

[high torrent]

it's ok console is actual hardmode

[mellow dagger]

I gotta say im almost a little disappointed by the void fiend - dont get me wrong hes an AMAZING character - but the roster is already so full of ranged pewpew-nuke chars - i was really hoping for another melee capable addition - we only have 3 melees and only 1 can truly stay there while the other two have to weave in and out

i realize with the way this game is designed its really hard to create a melee survivor thats balanced and diverse to play but yeah ... maybe the next DLC will deliver on that?

[bright flint]

Is it actually

[dull ingot]

fax king

[bright flint]

Like there's a genuine difference?

[cerulean spire]

Don't worry man. I was also sad.
Don't hold out for melee.

[dull ingot]

aiming on console seems aids

[bright flint]

It isn't bad

[cerulean spire]

The only way you're getting melee is starstorm 2 and paladin mod. Ror2 Devs hate melee

[high torrent]

void fiend was made in 3 days some time in January they just didn't have time
wait for GrooveSkills or HifuVFTweaks or something

[bright flint]

I play Engi so I barely have to aim

[empty current]

Imagine aiming

[quasi ginkgo]

Loader, Merc, saw mul-t, macrid

[uncut hatch]

engineer only has to pre aim and then the rest is kiting

[median gorge]

Loader, Huntress, Bandit, and MUL-T are the easiest to clear on E8 imo but its because they are either so strong they can brute force it or because the downsides are less relevant to their gameplay style

[high torrent]

way more enemy spawns and fire elites damage trail is instdeath

[plain plinth]

I played a console game once a long time ago. I could even shoot the broadside of the barn!..No, the other barn.

[wind canopy]

i play with friends who are better than me so i barely have to aim

[quasi ginkgo]

Rex is easiest

[cerulean spire]

loader isn't melee
acrid doesn't fully count but kind of
Merc yes
saw mult.kinda.but isn't really built for it

[mellow dagger]

thats what i mean

[uncut hatch]

mult is built for melee what are you talking about

[bright flint]

Slightly upsetting

[median gorge]

Bandit and Huntress don't really care much about the HP downsides or the faster enemy attacks because they have the ability to avoid most damage anyways

[wind canopy]

if acrid gets a melee version of epidemic i am going to explode

[rustic summit]

the flesh is weak

[bright flint]

All these years I thought I was just ass

[amber cargo]

arti is melee when you play flamethrower lel

[cerulean spire]

Joy. Joy it would be

[thorny oar]

Bandit with desperado especially. You can sit as long as you want on ANY stage, plus void fields becomes a cake walk

[inner ivy]

How would that even work

[mellow dagger]

it would be great to see more love for the existing melee characters if they struggle to add new ones for sure

[high torrent]

nah the game is genuinely straight up bullshit on consoles, you can check the list of bugs in #ror2-bug-reports-console

[bright flint]

Oh

[uncut hatch]

you just kind of become toxic i suppose

[wind canopy]

not like a version of epidemic that is melee, just an alt version for it that is a melee attack

[granite trench]

Maybe you release a melee range poison cloud or something

[cerulean spire]

It's a shame because the challenge of melee makes them much more fun

[mellow dagger]

exactly

[rustic summit]

agreed, also lean fiend would be fun af with a melee primary and M2 that go crazy during corrupt mode

[median gorge]

on E8 both lights out and desperado are good
lights out allows you to quickly clear wisps, which means less chip damage, and desperado allows you to clear mithrix super easily because of the increased damage

[quasi ginkgo]

Rex

[bright flint]

They had to build it from the ground up? It was that bad? Yikes

[granite trench]

Lean's normal primary looks really unsatisfying

[wind canopy]

iirc at some point aegis just did literally nothing

[mellow dagger]

also great idea imho - just giving options for that kinda playstyle would be satisfying

[cerulean spire]

I mean being real the dlc survivors look brokenly overpowered as shit from what I've seen

were they trying to beat loader

[uncut hatch]

melee characters tend to lack proc rates
both acrid and loader almost never hit anything that often
mercenary is an obvious exception and powersaw is powersaw i guess

[median gorge]

13500 3.0

[thorny oar]

As a desperado enthusiast I only will acknowledge your approval and confirmation of desperado

[slender brook]

then why do we have 3 melee characters

[granite trench]

Railgunner is definitely gonna be up there I feel

[mellow dagger]

they are powercreep for sure, but in this game that aint a bad thing, being strong is fun, and getting stronger is too

[cerulean spire]

which are they

[rustic summit]

yes but lets be real broken can be fun as long as the survivor isnt repetitive af, see: loader

[thorny oar]

Acrid is more faux melee

[granite trench]

Tho lean machine seems pretty mid, maybe a little higher up there with bandit

[slender brook]

loader, merc, acrid

[high torrent]

void fiend's whole interesting part is balancing at staying corrupted
skills are just too basic, and no alts is😔 😔 😔 😔

[rustic summit]

loader is broken and boring since you just swing punch everything in the game, repetitive af

[cerulean spire]

loader isn't really, acrid is kinda pseudo melee.

[wind canopy]

doesn't railgunners snipe do like 3000% or some absurdly dumb number like that

[wind canopy]

if you hit the weak point

[cerulean spire]

yeahhh I'm just not thinking about it

[slender brook]

how the fuck is loader not melee

[median gorge]

In a vacuum, Desperado is one of the best skills in the game.

[slender brook]

do you have brain damage

[uncut hatch]

alt loader is as melee as melee gets

[cerulean spire]

loader more just zooms around and flies through enemies, it's not the same.

[high torrent]

yeah every 1 or 1.5 secones

[thorny oar]

desperado is the best skill in the game

[wind canopy]

fair and balanced

[rustic summit]

it falls off hard

[mellow dagger]

because you dump your skills into melee and then run, same as "melee" acrid - only merc can stay there as long as he wants and be okay

[high torrent]

don't worry guys your community manager can't aim for shit and keeps the game fun!

i hate fun🙂

[uncut hatch]

wait railgunner gets only like 1000% per shot

[median gorge]

the "best" skill is probably Power Mode

[wind canopy]

railgunner in multiplayer with literally any crowd control character at all is going to be stupidly overpowered because crowds seems like their only weakness

[thorny oar]

I can’t hear you over my big iron

[iron plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/940572072172716122/heheheha.gif

[wind canopy]

its a 500% buff if you reload correctly and you can get guaranteed crits, so 1500% with the reload buff and then double that with crits

[cerulean spire]

Railgunner in my mp games gonna be great comedy

[high torrent]

+500% for perfect reload × 2 all of that for weakspot

[wind canopy]

3000%

[high torrent]

and I'm not talking about crit glasses being straight upgrades and non random

[median gorge]

https://youtu.be/zzICMIu5zFY

[cerulean spire]

To be fair this will be me

[uncut hatch]

the base is 500%...

[cerulean spire]

I'm saying railgunner looks op but that assumes I can hit shots

I do wish they made eclipse multiplayer

[high torrent]

all the small enemies are walking weakpoints

[median gorge]

Agreed, although I think Captain probably needs to be swapped with Arti

[cerulean spire]

I know mods but skill issue for my friends there

[novel quest]

I enjoy runs that crash the game

[high torrent]

check the vid again

[north saffron]

I can't hear you over my 24 nails per second.

[granite trench]

Base is 1000%

[wind canopy]

i think crowd control is a problem but you still have the giant piercing beam of doom that kills everything in a straight line

[median gorge]

Engie on eclipse is CBT

[thorny oar]

Excruciatingly based. Albeit- artificer should be lower and loader can get ringed in with the very good tier

[cerulean spire]

Oooo hot

[dull ingot]

artificer being able to skip the final stage is based

i hate playing that shit

[high torrent]

I wouldn't say so, caps is only really there because of fall damage

[uncut hatch]

oh ok yeah

[thorny oar]

All I hear is heresy

[dull ingot]

plus you can execute mithrix

[median gorge]

fair enough, but you're rarely forced to take fall damage

[uncut hatch]

the dps still assumes you hit every shot and time every reload

[north saffron]

Also. . . her utility is essentially an extremely delayed jump. If you need to get out of danger in 1 second you're out of luck.

[dull ingot]

cap no mobility very annoying

[median gorge]

just don't have skill issue

[uncut hatch]

true

[median gorge]

[high torrent]

dude i quit the game over e3 for 3 months

[cerulean spire]

Side note there's so many commando colours here do you guys actually play commando or do you just like the colour

[dull ingot]

i play commando a lot

[frosty tangle]

I hate commando and I hate this color

[cerulean spire]

like do humans exist that play commando?

[wind canopy]

yeah, you can try to avoid situations like that but if you arent paying attention / it sneaks up on you it can be a problem

[dull ingot]

he's mid tho i wish he was better

[cerulean spire]

lanzhang does, huh.

[uncut hatch]

the potential for railgunner is there but i doubt even good players will never miss a supercharge shot at least once per game

[cerulean spire]

he is the definition of mid which is why I didn't think people played him

[high torrent]

e3 is not even the game itself being hard or something
It's just
floor hurts

[thorny oar]

I’m excited to try the new survivors. In the meantime I gotta finish EC8 on bandit, and get good with mul-t (🤮), artificer, loader, and Rex

[high torrent]

commando is hella based

[north saffron]

It seems like Railgunner is going to need good spatial awareness like Engineer.

[wind canopy]

i play him because i like the M2

[slender brook]

so high mobility means you're not a melee character?

[thorny oar]

commando is the baseline for a good character

[wind canopy]

yeah probably

[dull ingot]

e3+ is torture

fall damage is so cringe

[simple rock]

Ohhhh a void key!!!!

[cerulean spire]

nono, it's that loaders main damage is more charging a first then flying through the enemy
you don't really stay in any fight for melee range you just kinda fly through them

[thorny oar]

just time your momentum delay skills

[inner ivy]

If that was the case the literally none of the melee characters would be melee lol

[uncut hatch]

also keep in mind that while you get 13500% damage with a 3.0 coef you also afterwards are guaranteed to lose 5 seconds of the normal dps

[north saffron]

Loader is flying first, melee second.

[cerulean spire]

Yeah that's what I mean

you're more like a dive bomber than you are melee

[gaunt aspen]

so ive been using blast on bandit...

[mental parrot]

rex is not bottom tier

[thorny oar]

acrid is underpowered imo. Have yet to get a good acrid run despite doing his mastery twice

[gaunt aspen]

and its actually ok

[uncut hatch]

so its like 4 shots at once for losing 5 seconds of normal shots

[zinc kernel]

repo

[slender brook]

so because you're not in melee range 100% of the time despite the fact that loader's main sources of damage can only be hit at melee range

[wind canopy]

thunder gauntlet and the slam is melee; the fist puts you right down in melee range after you hit it

[north saffron]

I'm guessing that they implimented the cooldown period so people don't abuse

[wind canopy]

and id say even defaults are melee

[zinc kernel]

Pylon isn't melee 😏

[inner ivy]

I feel like Acrid is less actual fighting and more run away as potion solves all your proble.s

[dull ingot]

stage 6 is just an L

[inner ivy]

This is coming from an acrid main

[slender brook]

i said main source of damage dipshit