gd2-nullified

[primal sandal]

you unlock her with MONEY

[fallen flax]

📠

[dull ingot]

to be fair bandit was an update character rather than a paid DLC character

[wicked yoke]

you know...,.. fair

[high torrent]

naaah, that is just finish any boss in 1 second or something

[fair mulch]

pay 12389432189 lunar coins to a void reaver to unlock railgunner

[fallen flax]

hack your lunar coins to get the new chiemra exploder character

[primal sandal]

gonna pay void reaver a 100 lunar coins to fuck off from my runs

[wicked yoke]

hooker void reaver? dont tell the monster, uh, lovers

[fair mulch]

lmao

[merry pewter]

I just beat my first monsoon run

[primal sandal]

[fallen flax]

[merry pewter]

and I did 0 loops

[white badge]

Grats

[merry pewter]

arti op

[fair mulch]

now tho, maybe in the dlc the railgunner will be unlocked by default but we'll have to unlock the 2nd character

with some void themed challenge

[merry pewter]

i'm shaking

[high torrent]

indeed

[fair mulch]

probably related to the void field

[primal sandal]

the 2nd character is enforcer im betting please please pl

[high torrent]

drink a winner tea

[merry pewter]

even though I never came close to death that was way too tense

[fair mulch]

the survival thing

[granite trench]

Tho I do think it's a little sad given how little she fits in with base kit mando and huntress, considering a lot of people will buy the dlc with the game before playing it if they do a bundle or somethinf

[wicked yoke]

thats what im thinking yeah

[reef swallow]

railer's confirmed to be unlocked by default, 2nd character is most likely new final boss

[fallen flax]

i don't get why some people dislike looping

[dull ingot]

RAILER‼️

[fair mulch]

WAT

[gaunt yacht]

Second one is locked yes but you will still see him 2 days from now

[reef swallow]

remember mithrix has captain as his unlock

[fallen flax]

it's fun

[gaunt yacht]

it is unavoidable he will find you

[fair mulch]

SO TRUE

[gleaming river]

scavenger

[wicked yoke]

the boss when you fight him vs. when you play him

[fallen flax]

the scavmily

[wicked yoke]

GOOD LORD

[fair mulch]

i forgot that, yeah itll probably be unlocked by beating the new final boss

[high torrent]

bro like lock railer behind 60 simulacrum waves or something

[granite trench]

So they'll start off with these 2 basic character and then this super complex character with massive damage

[fair mulch]

PLEASE LET IT BE PROVIDENCE HOPOO I BEG YOU

[gleaming river]

one of them dropped this

[reef swallow]

watching dev thoughts with my eyes closed so i don't get spoiled

[wicked yoke]

ol' provvy boy's dead, canonically

[white badge]

We're speculating who's the 2nd DLC survivor being some Void related thing or the Paladin from the vote but it turns out to just be Chef

[gaunt yacht]

Buying the dlc with my eyes closed so I don't see him on the store page

[granite trench]

Which in the grand scheme of things doesn't ruin balance THAT much but it's a bit jarring

[gaunt yacht]

accidentally buys isaac instead

[fair mulch]

providence can canonically suck my balls i want him back

[wicked yoke]

dev thoughts asmr

[primal sandal]

damn not again

[high torrent]

3 year long agony

[merry pewter]

also I got irradiant pearl first try

[white badge]

Mecha Providence

[gaunt spear]

👀

[wicked yoke]

is that why you want him back? 😳

[wicked yoke]

UH OH

[fair mulch]

😳

[reef swallow]

odd decision by hopoo to add naked children to ror2 and make it 2d again

[dull ingot]

i cant wait to play Railer from the risk of rain 2 Survivors of the Void DLC!

[proper lava]

WHERE DO I PUT IMAGES

[proper lava]

o3o

[primal sandal]

i still hope enforcer will make it back, in any way, i beg

[granite trench]

Get a role

[dull ingot]

like this post if you love Railer from the Risk of Rain 2 Survivors of the Void DLC!

[high torrent]

bro this server structure is garbage

[fair mulch]

also adding children from ror1 when 😔

[proper lava]

darn

[high torrent]

#role-assignment

[fair mulch]

hi

[granite trench]

t!selfrole put role here

[fallen flax]

also artificer with glass

[reef swallow]

there's a confirmed new sky meadow enemy so... maybe??

[gaunt yacht]

We are getting a new sky meadow enemy

[fallen flax]

beatiful creation of god

[gaunt yacht]

Brass Contraption that shoots primordial cube blackholes

[wicked yoke]

die

[fallen flax]

elder lemurian that shoots preon

[white badge]

Jokes on you Primordial Cube doesn't deal damage

[fallen flax]

4 preon balls in fact

[wicked yoke]

new artifact

[proper lava]

okey

[high torrent]

heheheha

[white badge]

It's actually better

[wicked yoke]

mosters get equipment as a bilities

[high torrent]

aspect abilities

[muted peak]

Chupapi Megangiyo?

[wicked yoke]

why, dude?

[fallen flax]

me when i die to a beetle stage 1 cause it has disposable missile launcher

[high torrent]

chmonya

[fair mulch]

muñaño

[wicked yoke]

LMFAO

[high torrent]

dml when it
actually hits targets

[primal sandal]

me dropping my pearls when the stage 2 beetle pulls up with a royal capacitor

[fair mulch]

dude i swear every time i see your pfp it reminds me of one of the best memes i have seen in my entire life and i cant stop laughing

[wicked yoke]

clay templar crowdfunder

[onyx ice]

I’m going to eat out gup

[primal sandal]

death

[gaunt yacht]

explain this

[white badge]

The templar is broke doe

[fallen flax]

mithrix tonic 😨

[wicked yoke]

and you say that and wont post the meme?

[white badge]

No money

[wicked yoke]

oh shit tru

[proper lava]

A screenshot I took in game

[wicked yoke]

someone start a kickstarter for poor pothead

[muted peak]

There is literally 4 pixels in that image how are we even supposed to comprehend it much less explain it

[woeful needle]

https://i.gyazo.com/c8b581d4fc3d4c1d1d1ab838e7860284.mp4

[white badge]

Aurelionite Crowdfunder doe

[fair mulch]

DHSSFDHF

[wicked yoke]

YES

[fallen flax]

it activates for 15 seconds every and then deactivates for 15 seconds

[gaunt yacht]

#theorycrafting

[fair mulch]

im sorry i just fucking love this meme its so good

[gleaming river]

warbanner

[primal sandal]

damn bro that is relatable 🤣

[wicked yoke]

what the fuck is this LOL

[fallen flax]

genshing impact fans when i rip their carotid arteries out with a rusty screwdriver

[wicked yoke]

the most chad response

[gaunt yacht]

Idk it's just on the last frame of a clip, definitely nothing it just looks kinda weird

[high torrent]

dyno is gonna remind us about being on topic in exactly 10 minutes

[white badge]

I swear to God my Monsoon/Eclipse runs success rate is just pure RNG if I ever get out of Stage 1

[gaunt yacht]

new sky meadow enemy is still hype

[wicked yoke]

i forgot how fucking stupidly hilarious these are

[fallen flax]

1984 😭

[primal sandal]

your shitposting ends in 10 MINUTES FROM NOW ON

[white badge]

Sometimes it's chill, sometimes the TP event decides to spawn nonstop golems

[fair mulch]

jokes on you ive got the book right next to me rn

[fallen flax]

the earth rumbles and groans with mysterious energies

[wicked yoke]

gotta go faster

[granite trench]

https://tenor.com/view/crowd-cheering-crowd-hype-cheer-cheer-meme-gif-22195506

[fallen flax]

i remember the first time i got the golem event i immediately died

[proper lava]

hot

[white badge]

I only ever got the Jellyfish one and the Wisp one

[primal sandal]

there is a jellyfish one?

[wicked yoke]

never had issues with events

[fallen flax]

sky meadows event

[wicked yoke]

just dodge 5head

[fallen flax]

that one must suck hard

[white badge]

The air crackles and burns

Or wait is that the Wisp?

[high torrent]

yeah I remember getting it two times in a row

[fallen flax]

the earth beneath you shifts

[white badge]

Idk anymore

[primal sandal]

a storm is coming.... 🌩️

[fallen flax]

me when i get the beetle event oh noo im so dead

[white badge]

There's a beetle event?

[fair mulch]

but it never came 😔

[high torrent]

beetle event is funniest shit ever

[fallen flax]

did a tp in a storm got an imp overlord and died

mf sped up like a formula 1 car

[high torrent]

lemurian event when tp boss is overloading elder lem

[fair mulch]

LMAO

[granite trench]

Feels like I always get beetle event on sky meadows only and never on another stage

[wicked yoke]

someone make a "when the earth beneath you shifts but youre an insect fucker" meem or smth

[high torrent]

we need a clay event tbhh

[gaunt yacht]

Can they add Lemurian Worm as a boss yet

[white badge]

God forbid I ever get the Lunar event in Sky Meadows

[fallen flax]

😨

[white badge]

Probs never gonna happen

[high torrent]

huuu

[primal sandal]

yall never knew pain if you didnt accidentally forgot about the nemesis characters went to the void fields and then had to deal with like 4 of em

[granite trench]

☁️ The Reminder ☁️

[fallen flax]

a lemurian boss would be cool as hell
godzilla

[gaunt yacht]

Well that's just impossible

[proper lava]

I'm terrified of that.

[high torrent]

or a blue lemurian

[wicked yoke]

TOXIC BEAST AS SULPHUR POOLS BOSS???

[granite trench]

Is it? I feel like I've def seen beetle queens on sky meadows

[fallen flax]

overloading lemurian boss 200 hp

[wicked yoke]

hoping and praying and begging

[gaunt yacht]

[high torrent]

@firewaze

[granite trench]

Tho I might be thinking of grovetenders from wisp event

[fallen flax]

toxic beast is if beetle queen only spawned minions and that's all

[high torrent]

uwah

[onyx ice]

https://tenor.com/view/guppy-gif-24290807

[gaunt yacht]

In Vanilla, The only family event on Sky Meadows is the Lunar one that happens only on stage 10 Sky Meadows, never 5 or 15 or after

[wicked yoke]

she doesnt do anything anyways

[fallen flax]

also the idea for grovetenders is cool as hell i wonder how one can think of such stuff

[high torrent]

toxic beast should run around the whole map

[primal sandal]

[WARNING] The bulwark begin to falter..

[ancient dirge]

Gup looks weak

[high torrent]

shrooms

[wicked yoke]

also wheres my god damn merch? my Geep beanbag chair????

[fallen flax]

a gigantic squirrel with a mask that just throws living pieces of fire at you

[white badge]

Beetle Queen is so dang polarizing for me. Either it's smooth sailing or she shotguns me and I insta die to beetle spit

[fallen flax]

also chains???

[high torrent]

gup was the least threatening enemy in ror1 so

[fallen flax]

the beetle spit is the most inconsistent shit ever

[wicked yoke]

keep your distance

[fallen flax]

it sometimes does 2 damage and sometimes leaves you at half hp

[gaunt yacht]

Wdym grovetender sucks i'd rather have just a giant greater wisp colored purple as a boss

[woeful needle]

gup can jump now though

[ancient dirge]

Give gup a gun

[white badge]

This

[fallen flax]

only appeared in like one stage 😔

[high torrent]

ye

[wicked yoke]

i have had beetle vomit balls roll off of me before on multiple instances

[onyx ice]

https://tenor.com/view/gup-gup-coalescence-gup-moment-risk-of-rain2-risk-of-gup-gif-24352784

[high torrent]

look at bandit legs

[fallen flax]

he doing the stanky leg

[wicked yoke]

moonwalkin

[proper lava]

HES GROOVIN

[ancient dirge]

My boi shuffling

[wicked yoke]

getting sturdy with it 💯

[onyx ice]

Insane

[white badge]

Are we getting new Alt abilities for pre-existing survivors for the DLC btw?

[high torrent]

caught lackin

[fallen flax]

no

[high torrent]

no

[ancient dirge]

I hope so

[white badge]

Sad

[ancient dirge]

DAMN!

[high torrent]

kinda sucks but also makes sense

[fallen flax]

[primal sandal]

it kind of sucks. thats it. it just sucks.

[white badge]

Let me change Artificer's Ice Wall dammit

[wicked yoke]

igloo making time

[fallen flax]

i hope what comes out of the egg is like some funny crab or something

[reef swallow]

engie m1, captain m2 and arti shift alts would be great

[high torrent]

looks like we just don't get anything that changes regular game "meta"

purely content dump

[ancient dirge]

Mercenary with new skills pls

[wicked yoke]

that audio gave me a migraine

[fallen flax]

doodoodooodo doo doo

[gaunt yacht]

I think most of the items we've seen play well into the current state of the game

[white badge]

Captain having an actual M2 would be terrifying

[gaunt yacht]

just yeah hope the new final boss pleases 6mms

[primal sandal]

captain glock, captain glock

[ancient dirge]

Captain command or sum idk

[reef swallow]

moreso than the boss i hope the new final stage is fun

[high torrent]

captain asks for rework, even uncles hates him, but that's not happening this patch

[ancient dirge]

Any speculations on the new boss

[high torrent]

crab

[reef swallow]

it's void related

[fallen flax]

malachite urchin army

[ancient dirge]

It's a crab ._.

[fallen flax]

it's a BIG ASS LOBSTER.. (i hope)

[reef swallow]

void goldfish

[fallen flax]

i got a meme blocked 😭

[ancient dirge]

A flying void fish

[scarlet tapir]

Hi! Dont forget - this channel is for Risk of Rain 2 discussion only! If you want offtopic discussions - please visit #general down in hangouts! Thank you!

[primal sandal]

i forgor 💀

[ancient dirge]

Similar to the whale in rezero

[reef swallow]

this sounds like a copypasta

[ancient dirge]

balls

[fallen flax]

you rember now 😇

[high torrent]

yo here he goooooes

man I really want a mantis shrimp void enemy

[reef swallow]

the answer is ||Hi! Dont forget - this channel is for Risk of Rain 2 discussion only! If you want offtopic discussions - please visit #general down in hangouts! Thank you!||

[fallen flax]

no way

[high torrent]

catgirl pings guts what will they do

[faint river]

Bye don't remember this channel is for offtopic discussion only! If you want on topic discussions please go to general

[fallen flax]

void jailers look like they're gonna beat some ass

[reef swallow]

void jailers got reworked apparently

they pull you towards them now

[fallen flax]

🤨

[reef swallow]

die?

[white badge]

The new final boss is just a Malachite Jellyfish Horde of Many but they have Goat Hooves, Soldier's Syringe, Red Whip and Dios

[primal sandal]

🤨

[reef swallow]

interesting

[fickle bolt]

wtf for some reason i dont have a risk of rain 2 file wth

[ancient dirge]

Gup boss when

[fallen flax]

comedy lord

[primal sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-opinion-rejected-anime-gif-24774461

[tranquil ridge]

SnickerDoodle#1973 has been warned.

[gaunt yacht]

❓

[fallen flax]

kid 😢

[gaunt yacht]

can't wait for the next one

[high torrent]

calm down uncles you are like 13

[tranquil ridge]

SnickerDoodle#1973 was muted

[fallen flax]

LOL

[primal sandal]

okay so uh what does elixir do again?

[ancient dirge]

Delicate watch op
Best item in the game

[fluid charm]

tfw you unlock every character that doesn't require actually beating the game

[woeful needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921219641219620924/938577021330677810/unknown.png

[high shoal]

f moron

[reef swallow]

saves your watches!

[fallen flax]

literal comedy lord 💀

[primal sandal]

so it like heals you on low hp?

[reef swallow]

yeah when you hit 25% it heals you 75% hp

[primal sandal]

nice

[high torrent]

bottle of wine is a consumable???

[reef swallow]

which happens to save your delicate watches

[ancient dirge]

what the FUCK
Was expecting just an unfathomably large blob ngl

[primal sandal]

might make one shot protection useful

[gaunt yacht]

no probably not we have no idea of it's effect

[high torrent]

uh huh wuhuh

[ancient dirge]

Consumable items sound stinky

[fallen flax]

bottlw of win gives you the tonic filter and nothing else permanently

[primal sandal]

the wine bottle has a red item outline

so i would assume it is one

[ancient dirge]

I mean we already have one and it's absolutely useless in multiplayer

[gaunt yacht]

Well yeah it's a dlc red item we just never saw it in gameplay

[reef swallow]

watch is pretty cool and it makes elixir good by association

[primal sandal]

fr we finally have a proper dmg item thats not focus crystal

[fallen flax]

the duality of man
consumable items are broken
consumable items SUCK!

[white badge]

Why is it called Risk of Rain if it never rains of Petrichor V?

[ancient dirge]

Dios lol

[fallen flax]

risk of drought

[high torrent]

sirens call tho

[gaunt yacht]

very broken

[high torrent]

subtle but

[fallen flax]

[burnt path]

aight, slammed mithrix with mobile sentry

[primal sandal]

so can we do anything with the broken watches i wonder?

[ancient dirge]

Maybe broken items could be used as scrap

[white badge]

You can't scrap dios doe

[fallen flax]

probably not cause that would be overpowered

[gaunt yacht]

no

[fallen flax]

also what kuchia said

[reef swallow]

the broken watches are there to make you depressed

[gaunt yacht]

Untiered items are just keepsakes

[ancient dirge]

Broken items could be repaired maybe

[crystal pilot]

cant wait to scrap broken items so i can print afflictions

[fallen flax]

they are there so when mithrix gets them he can laugh at you

[high torrent]

this is so much in line with old hopoo's love for "roguelike ideology" that is there to make people mad, I just can't hate that too much
but I still hate it

[dire rivet]

that person has 15 posts and over half of them are telling people to go kill themselves.

[primal sandal]

then why doesnt stay as a keep sake hopoo explain

[burnt path]

no way, on demand cancer printer

[reef swallow]

relatable

[fallen flax]

he's just very funny don't mind him,....

comedy lord

[high torrent]

I know I just thought the last post was funny as shit and just continued the line

[gaunt yacht]

Yes please Hopoo games add used rusted key

you have no excuse to not add it after adding used elixir and watch

[primal sandal]

rusted key (broken)

[reef swallow]

broken keys would be nice

[high shoal]

Busted Key

[fallen flax]

rusted key the white (green) item

[crystal pilot]

how do we unrust the key

[gaunt yacht]

Rusted Key (extra rusted)

[high shoal]

Oxidized Key

[white badge]

What I want from the DLC, slightly more common Yellow Printers like c'mon game

[primal sandal]

rusted key (now in coca cola [we're fixing it])

[fallow depot]

wanna see a real joke?

[ancient dirge]

Rusted key should become just a regular key when used

[reef swallow]

maybe an item like ser junkan that buffs you the more gray items you have

[fallow depot]

average simulacrum fan

[high torrent]

honesty over time it feels like yellow printers are rare just right

[fallen flax]

interactable items you use up one bottle of wine and pour it on a rusted key and you get a royal key (unlocks legendary chests)

[high torrent]

ok I laughed

[ancient dirge]

Edible grey items

[reef swallow]

it took me exactly 1 minute to get the joke

[high torrent]

edibles

[high shoal]

Ok actually a pet that gets stronger depending on how much scrap you have would be sick
Or you could feed it scrap or something

[fallen flax]

i don't get it

[fallow depot]

maybe ill change my nickname to simulacrum fan on march 1st

[white badge]

Rusted Key is a sleeper item ngl

[crystal pilot]

i still dont get it

[fallen flax]

OH MY GOD why am i stupid

nevermind i get it now

[high shoal]

Watch yo tone

[fallow depot]

joke ||its a literal fan||

[crystal pilot]

FUCK

[drowsy tulip]

literally turns your whites into greens, smh

[orchid sinew]

[white badge]

Y

[fallow depot]

and thats why rallypoint delta fan haha

[white badge]

I meant it's slept on

[ruby cargo]

whites > greens anyway

[drowsy tulip]

oh, you said that wrong then, makes sense

[fallen flax]

you're that one useless fan that leads to the peak that usually has nothing in it

[fallow depot]

precisely

[drowsy tulip]

woah, you can't say that sort of stuff smh my head

[white badge]

Also don't forget it also comes with a 20% chance to give u a red

[high torrent]

I found a scrapper there once
it was yeeting scrap down

[fallow depot]

(I almost forgot that particular fan existed 💀)

[ancient dirge]

50 whites would be better than 60 greens

[frigid oxide]

racist

[white badge]

And since your opening a Green Box for free in a later stage it's always a net positive gold wise

[fallen flax]

me when the the uh the uh the bison steak bettter than uh an uh atg

[cinder badger]

Hey, Acrid's first passive is Poison, not Blight, right? Just unlocked him, started a run, and it seems I'm stuck with Blight for some reason

[high torrent]

based

[fallow depot]

default is poison yea

[ancient dirge]

Is it purple

[frigid oxide]

blight is no >:(

[fallow depot]

blight is purple and yellow

[ancient dirge]

Blight op

[primal sandal]

blight isnt real, wake up

[frigid oxide]

acrid mains when they wake up from their coma

[cinder badger]

Blight is good early game admittedly, but it doesn't scale well late-game

Also I guess that answers my question, could be a bug or something

[ancient dirge]

Blight should proc

[white badge]

Also I unironically think Chronobauble isn't THAT bad now

[high torrent]

it doesn't completely troll mithrix and doesnt make him a joke? bohoo! very sad

[fallen flax]

new acrid passive literal bucket of hydrochloric acid he carries around use m1 to splash in front of you with it

[white badge]

Since Slow on Mithrix is hella noticable

[fallow depot]

acrid mains escaping the crab cops

[frigid oxide]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/293269027130703873/852853467973812234/a_e68c667eac1ae3f2b14a0194e111f739.gif

[spark wave]

lumpycraigonian

[reef swallow]

1/4th death mark is a pretty good green item yea

[high torrent]

one stack chrono is solid

[drowsy tulip]

also deathmark exists now

[reef swallow]

shame it doesn't do anything without death mark though

[ancient dirge]

I have never seen an acrid main

[white badge]

I rarely go for Deaths mark

[high torrent]

2 stack chrono is a waste of green scrap

[fallow depot]

death mark more like oh hi mark

[white badge]

Unless I'm Acrid or Rex I just scrap em

[frigid oxide]

imagine how useful chronobauble could be if it slowed down how fast enemies attacked

that would be incredibly useful

[reef swallow]

that'd almost be too strong

[high torrent]

I am one on Wednesdays

[ancient dirge]

Would be broken

[fallen flax]

ultra chronobauble movement speed 1/100 of it's original but attack speed is multiplied by 100

[fallow depot]

thats what im thinking void chronobauble does (but it doesnt seem to be on hit or on kill)

[drowsy tulip]

would need to be red i think

[ancient dirge]

Taking da dog out on a walk on Wednesday

[white badge]

Inb4 it makes Stone Titan laser last longer

[fallen flax]

could be fixed if it hit less often

[drowsy tulip]

so, what will tougher void do, do you think?

[fallen flax]

laser rn is no different that that projectile barrage mithrix does everytime he goes flying

[drowsy tulip]

assuming that bear thing we saw is it

[fallow depot]

void chronobauble: slow attack speed on nearby enemies or something?

[ancient dirge]

Enough chronoboble stacks should make the enemies walk backwards

[gaunt yacht]

We've seen what looks like Void Chronobaubel and we can with full certainty say we have no idea what the hell it does

Just not a buff on hit like chronobaubel

[fallow depot]

yea, not on hit

[reef swallow]

voids are so hard to think of good ideas for

[cinder badger]

This RoR 2 & Tenet crossover is unexpected but welcome

[fallow depot]

still confident that void infusion is like a super-barrier and its like the best void

[high torrent]

Monday - Mando
Tuesday - Merc
Wednesday - Acrid
Thursday - Rex
Friday - Arti
Saturday - Miner
Sunday - Han-D
this is how schizophrenia looks like

[gaunt yacht]

Void Chrono Baubel #1
Nullify Stack on hit like Void Reavers

Void Chrono Baubel #2
Lower attack speed on hit

[high torrent]

and that's why I don't use a color role

[frigid oxide]

i think we all know that han-d is actually inside the void pod

[gaunt yacht]

we just only saw 3 Void items and they're probably more on the boring side of void items

[drowsy tulip]

ig the void concept is meant to be equally strong but differently situational version of the normal item, but you can only have one or the other

[high torrent]

no he is in the back of the character selection screen

[white badge]

Idk automatically blocks attacks as long as they deal less than 5% of your max HP?

[ancient dirge]

Void clovers pls

[fallow depot]

void items are generally sidegrades that you may not want to take bc you're sacrificing the non void version of the item

[frigid oxide]

there is no upside it's just you become unlucky

[drowsy tulip]

better chest luck instead

[gaunt yacht]

okay where

[fallow depot]

"is this sidegrade better for my build? will it kill me in the future?"

[fast pecan]

are void items gonna be part of the regular loot pool or are they gonna be exclusive to specific areas

[reef swallow]

there's also tradeoffs like losing your aoe proc chains for puke's single target mass procs... maybe it's something like that? something that increases your DPS but you lose the block chance from regular TT

[high torrent]

simulacrum is not real simulacrum is not real simulacrum is not real simulacrum is not real

[gaunt yacht]

Void Items will be gotten from Void Chests

[fallow depot]

the miner pic from a while ago was fake

[reef swallow]

laughs in wungus

[ancient dirge]

Are there any void reds actually

[frigid oxide]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEADGET OUT OF MY HEADGET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEADGET OUT OF MY HEADGET OUT OF MY HEAD

[fallow depot]

don't see why we would need em

[high torrent]

you get them from special interactables

[fast pecan]

ah i see void chests are just gonna exist that's fair

[fallow depot]

a void red would be kinda busted and also nonsense

[high torrent]

uncles said that it's a possibility

[white badge]

A Void Red sounds like such a niche thing doe

[fallow depot]

void lunars

[frigid oxide]

i remember someone saying what if void dios was "You are immune to all damage, but you have a 1% chance to be instakilled if you take damage"

[white badge]

At that point make it a new red all together

[reef swallow]

the only void lunar i could see happening is void gestures since it's barely a lunar

[ancient dirge]

void happiest mask

[fallow depot]

god i would kill for
anything to make mask better

[drowsy tulip]

dubbed "sussiest mask"

[frigid oxide]

depressed mask

[ancient dirge]

Saddest Sock

[white badge]

Screw mask what about my boi Effigy of Grief

[frigid oxide]

n o

[drowsy tulip]

that's both equipment and lunar

[ancient dirge]

Uhhh, void happiest mask gives you a doppleganger or sum

[drowsy tulip]

1% chance to spawn goobo Jr. on kill

[ancient dirge]

Killing enemies gives you temporary items

[frigid oxide]

void happiest masks makes spawned ghosts become kamikaze bombs instead of friends that help you

that could be cool

[white badge]

Inb4 Void Yellows

[gaunt yacht]

With 13 Void Items I just hope they chose some good items

[drowsy tulip]

inb4 bungus mask

[high torrent]

void equipments ueeèeeèeeee

[drowsy tulip]

stay still to summon wisps

[reef swallow]

voids seem to be for the most common items for builds like dagger, glasses, atg, uke etc

[ancient dirge]

Void Jar: being close to enemies give you buffs but they get healed

[frigid oxide]

they said there's going to be 13 void items?

[white badge]

Oh yeah def

[high torrent]

void polyp
void pauldron
void chronobauble
void lepton

[white badge]

What if we get Void Bands and it's just Pre-Rework bands

[reef swallow]

i'd rather see like
void bands, void syringe, void bears

[ancient dirge]

I think they're only voiding good items

[white badge]

And Void Tri-Tip is just pre rework Daggers

[rain warren]

That'd be funny

[high torrent]

void syringe? insta pick

[rain warren]

Void stickies

[reef swallow]

things that you actually want to think about picking up or not

[cloud remnant]

Bungus is good? Did I miss Something?

[gaunt yacht]

Steam Page says so

And the DLC is basically finished so

[frigid oxide]

epic

[reef swallow]

rather than "haha this item is a flat upgrade over the base item" voids like polyp or lepton or w/e

[drowsy tulip]

idk, void crit glasses

[ancient dirge]

Bungus op sorry to break it to you

[rain warren]

Already revealed

[drowsy tulip]

doesn't seem like a good tradeoff

[gaunt yacht]

they're both voiding good and bad items
and void items can be both opposite effects or stronger new effects

Designed to be strong

[rain warren]

Its a good tradeoff

[reef swallow]

it's a "never take on 6mm and always take on loops" tradeoff

[rain warren]

Play a mod where there's a red item for a 1% instakill

[white badge]

It be interested in Void Syringes since not every one wants Atk Speed (Arti and Bandit come to mind)

[drowsy tulip]

it doesn't work on bosses

[rain warren]

Shit happens more often than you think

[white badge]

Or Void Crowbars for like Commando and Huntress

[untold pike]

depends on what character you play as well

[gaunt yacht]

Keep in mind while Polylute takes away AoE, other Void Items will give AoE

[rain warren]

Void crowbars would be neat

[gaunt yacht]

on Loops you'd probably just take like 10 out of the 13 void items

who knows what Void ATG will do

[reef swallow]

hope it's a good tradeoff

[white badge]

I'd be interested in Polylute ngl, Like Arti has a crap ton of AoE already so dumping that all into more Single Target would be nuts

[reef swallow]

atg is like the best item in the game

[white badge]

Same with Loader on like Thunder Gauntlet

Having the ability to turn all of your current and future items into a completely different thing to suite the char and build sounds absolutely bonkers

Doe idk how to feel about the alt Crit glasses doe

[gaunt yacht]

Voids Items are still random (or their main way of getting them)

[high torrent]

just realized how high ukulele chance is

[gaunt yacht]

They aren't Lunar Items, you can't pick and choose to fill a hole in your build but they are still a choice of course

[gaunt yacht]

From how Suncles talks about them they're the worst void item

[cloud remnant]

I mean dual nailgun mult and commando are gonna be sick

[gaunt yacht]

Instant take on Bandit, meme on other fast shooting characters, absolute trash otherwise

that could be a meme in itself but yeah, limited

[white badge]

Oh yeah Bandit right he'd like those

[gaunt yacht]

Absolutely wanna do Powersaw/Nailgun MulT with Lost Seers

[whole basin]

wooo

[white badge]

I also hope the devs do another sweep on the Lunar items as many of them are kinda disappointing ngl

[hazy swallow]

agreed

[white badge]

Like who takes Defisnt Gouge

[gaunt yacht]

a lot of people

[hazy swallow]

well okay I take every lunar under some circumstances

[granite trench]

We're gonna get 4 new ones but idk what they're gonna do otherwise

[untold pike]

it'll be free item scraps (if void items even can be scrapped) for lodader mains

[white badge]

Wait rly?

[hazy swallow]

defiant gouge is funny I stack it rly high

[gaunt yacht]

Void Items can not be scrapper or removed

[hazy swallow]

like one run I got 20 of em

[untold pike]

well that's a gamble then

[hazy swallow]

removed, yes. Lunar pools

[gaunt yacht]

You simply ignore Lost Seers

[granite trench]

Also we're getting lunar printers which is just...

[gaunt yacht]

no

[hazy swallow]

OH void items, sorry

[fast pecan]

i never use , ,but besides that it depends on the character

[untold pike]

if taking crit glasses has a chance to turn into lost seers then that just sounds like a nerf for the item for most characters ngl

[gaunt yacht]

Should've added this to the store page instead of a whole Paragraph about Gup

[fast pecan]

defiant gouge can be nice if you've got good dps

[white badge]

Effigy is a glorified Aqueduct button presser

[hazy swallow]

is worth it IMO

[granite trench]

They dont appear in normal chests as far as we know

Rn the only source we know is from void cradles

[unborn mountain]

I'm more of a gip person myself

[gaunt yacht]

They are not hidden doppelgangers or whatever Suncles said in dev 22

[untold pike]

oh

[gaunt yacht]

you are never forced to take a void item you do not want

[untold pike]

my bad then

[gaunt yacht]

They are 100% a choice you make to ruin your own run

[reef swallow]

i wonder if that was how they actually worked at some point during dev

[gaunt yacht]

Considering Suncles clarified like on the same days as dev 22 seems doubtful

[white badge]

As if I NEED another way to screw myself over other than my crippling Shaped Glass addiction

[fast pecan]

recycler would be good to have for the early game just in case it's void lenses lol

[gaunt yacht]

Well Recycler is always absurdly good

[untold pike]

at least stacking shaped glass has some benefit

[fast pecan]

ofc recycler is always good but if there's some items that are absolutely a run ruiner then yeah

[merry karma]

most are op tho

[hazy swallow]

recycler is my favorite active, just fun to use

[gaunt yacht]

Half of all Lunar Items would be fine if Lunar Pods were more common

so you could just get a defiant gauge and take it without thinking about it

[hazy swallow]

more commonality than commodity

[white badge]

I believe in Purity Supremacy

[reef swallow]

pods > slab tbh

[gaunt yacht]

If people just got Effigy randomly they'd probably like it but they'd never pay for it in the shop

[reef swallow]

i know for sure i've picked up lunar items i never would've otherwise just cause they showed up from a pod

[slender sigil]

i believe in half the items in the game being luck affected

[fast pecan]

i wouldn't mind if pods were more common and blue portals were more limited

[granite trench]

Yeah

[hazy swallow]

something like, idk, maybe twice the chance of a legendary to get a lunar item of any kind

[fast pecan]

like if you got a blue portal you couldn't get one for the next 1-3 stages

[hazy swallow]

so that you’d just get em sometimes

[white badge]

That just means you are now free to scrap half of the items guilt free!

[hazy swallow]

I like this idea honestly

[slender sigil]

mmmmmm i love scrapping atg

[granite trench]

Tbh the shop and lunar editing are the main issues with lunars

[reef swallow]

it's really just the slab

lunar editing wasn't that big of a deal when you couldn't reroll for 5 hours to get tonic and 4 gestures

[white badge]

You joke but when you see that Band Printer on Loader/Arti you care not for AtGs

It going in the printer

[granite trench]

Some of them are really unbalanced but it wouldn't matter as much if you couldnt constantly reroll for 5 gestures

[gaunt yacht]

Slab is fine just why is it unlimited,

Simple they don't care

And idk why they should really

[fast pecan]

i don't really have a problem with lunar editing as i decided to do it after 100%ing the game, i tend to limit myself on the amount of lunars that i take though, and the nice thing about them is that you can use them to beef up a run but don't have to

[white badge]

Also Purity Acrid is great

[granite trench]

Purity is my favorite lunar overall

[white badge]

And Slab is not unlimited technically it randomly jams

[fast pecan]

sure players can optimize the fun out of the game by going to shop every floor and having 10 glass by stage 3 but that's completely optional

purity is quite fun

[granite trench]

Because it's the reverse of my least favorite red

[gaunt yacht]

No it doesn't?

I'd know from rerolling 250 times in a run

[fast pecan]

i like runs where i've got several purities on merc and rely on an absurd amount of focus crystals

[hazy swallow]

what?

[slender sigil]

this guy's doing a little trolling

[hazy swallow]

I’ve never heard of this

[fierce epoch]

What happened in #gd1-nullified 😳

[reef swallow]

i've gotten people in multiplayer who reroll for 30 minutes and if i force leave the bazaar they quit

[white badge]

I've been doing some rerolls and I swear after you get to a certain point the slab just stops you from using it

[reef swallow]

self explanatory i think

gd1 happened in gd1

[fierce epoch]

epic

[untold pike]

gd1

[slender sigil]

when you dont have enough coins to reroll again?

[granite trench]

I've never seen slab stop

[fierce epoch]

So gd2 still best channel

[white badge]

No no I have more than enough counts

*coins

[granite trench]

Unless it stops if you run out of items to buy but I never check after that

[gaunt yacht]

Yeah you can't reroll 0 items

[pallid nova]

I mean, that doesn't answer shit to me, I'm almost never in here

[white badge]

I think it just starts randomly stopping once you're down to like your last item to rerolk

[gaunt yacht]

It don't

[white badge]

Really now?

[gaunt yacht]

yeah

[crystal pilot]

nothing happened in gd1

[gaunt yacht]

You must've been underestimating how many lunar coins it takes or smth since the price doubles each time

because there is no randomly freezes up mechanic

[white badge]

I swear to God but if this many people are saying it it just might be on my end then

Mb

[left lotus]

Having a good double scrap run, can I pick up hooks?

Without it replacing M2 in power mode?

[gaunt yacht]

yeah

[pallid nova]

I'm gonna keep asking until I get an answer, what happened in gd1

[left lotus]

Thanks!

[high wasp]

Server is getting remodeled soon

New rules out in place to make Gd1 more on topic

People complained

Long, pointless arguments insued

Gd1 gets shut down and now the people there mostly chill in #general

Read Uncles’ messages in Gd1 and the thread for more information

[reef swallow]

gd1 was mostly unmoderated shitposting previously

[pallid nova]

thank you

[ancient dirge]

Sounds like a good channel

[wicked yoke]

gotta say that "balls" being the only message that stays made my whole goddamn day lmao

[high torrent]

Balls
Will
Stay

in Gabriel ultrakill voice

[white badge]

How's Captain's Diablo Strike btw, too lazy to unlock it atm

[uncut hatch]

"hey look buddy
im an engineer that means i solve problems"

[crystal pilot]

im surprised it didnt get removed considering what it was before the edit

[reef swallow]

mostly a meme but you can run shock beacons to make it a viable alternative

[tranquil star]

it’s not a meme, shock beacon is very good

put enemies in limbo so you can diablo strike them and prevent more enemies from spawning? sign me up

can also neutralize threats like overloading elder lemurians

[iron plover]

doube hacking tho

[tranquil star]

one shock one hack, easy

[reef swallow]

it's more fun than regular strike because it introduces actual synergy to captain's kit

• lol big number

[tranquil star]

also makes mithrix kind of a joke

and allows for diablo pillar skips

[white badge]

All I know is that I can go straight to Mithrix on the Diablo Strike Express

[iron plover]

i would like to also mention for the 100th time the pillar skip

[white badge]

But idk if I can do that on E8

[tranquil star]

you can but it puts you at like 2 hp iirc

[gaunt aspen]

(You can’t)

[tranquil star]

do you run e8?

[white badge]

I'm getting there

[fallen flax]

mfw playing artificer glass the game spawns 3 magma worms under me and i instantly explode

[white badge]

So far at E3

[fallen flax]

anyways artificer is fun as hell

[tranquil star]

that’s v good

[gaunt aspen]

I’m at e5 on captain but e8 on huntress

[prime crescent]

you can, but you will lose a lot of your health permanently so it won't be worth it

[ancient dirge]

Artificer carpet bombing

[white badge]

Do you run Strafe or Flurry?

[tranquil star]

if you’re confident you can one-shot mithrix before he spawns on every phase and you think you can take down phase 2 then you can do it

but i would advise against it on e8

[ancient dirge]

Strafe for 1 loop, flurry for multiple

[gaunt aspen]

Flurry because looping is a necessity

[tranquil star]

or just equip jade elephant

[tranquil star]

no it isn’t

[prime crescent]

looping necessity on eclipse? you're very brave

[tranquil star]

most of my eclipse runs are one loop

[white badge]

Cause my god the moment I swap to Strafe the game gives me a glasses printer

[gaunt aspen]

At e8?

[fast pecan]

the only times i did e8 i did mithrix stage 6

[white badge]

Like deadass without fail

[tranquil star]

i only loop when i don’t have enough speed or damage

[fast pecan]

i've never actually done an eclipse run and looped i realize

[fallen flax]

mithrix just watches in horror on how i activate jade elephant and he hits me straight in the face for 13 damage

[ancient dirge]

Does strafe have more DPS than flurry?

[gaunt aspen]

It makes it so much easier

[tranquil star]

why do you loop on e8

[fallen flax]

if full crit yes

[reef swallow]

more without crit and less with

[prime crescent]

without crits flurry has 20% less damage

[gaunt aspen]

Yes, but if you get crit on flurry it’s cracked

[prime crescent]

or something like that

[fallen flax]

💯

[white badge]

I believe Strafe is stronger till you get 3 Crit Glasses, then Flurry overtakes

[ancient dirge]

Twice as good with Crit
20% worse without

[fierce epoch]

iirc flurry > strafe once you reach 4 crit glasses

[fallen flax]

i got huntress mastery looping with flurry

[merry karma]

also keep in mind that flurry is overall better at about 80% crit

[prime crescent]

it's way better than twice as good with crit

[white badge]

Also someone did the maths and it's around a 33% damage loss compared to strafe

[fallen flax]

6 arrows in one shot and all of them deal double damage

[ancient dirge]

Flurry sounding like a straight up upgrade lol

[gaunt aspen]

Quadruple damage

[fierce epoch]

It is

[fallen flax]

as stated only with crit

[tranquil star]

it isn’t

[prime crescent]

yeah it just depends on your luck

[white badge]

Not to mention Flurry has a lesser proc quoeffecient than Strafe in 3 shots

[ancient dirge]

So flurry had more risk

[merry karma]

both are trash so it doesnt really matter what you pick

[reef swallow]

i mean yea but

[gaunt aspen]

On 6mm strafe is better

[tranquil star]

huntress moment

[fierce epoch]

6mm ?

[gaunt aspen]

I’m the huntress expert

[reef swallow]

stage 6 mithrix monsoon

[cloud remnant]

No looping just going mithrix

[ancient dirge]

Yeah huntress is pretty awful now that I think about it

[fierce epoch]

oh that

dunno i always end with 9 glasses predatory scythe + clover anyway

[white badge]

But the sfx of getting a crit proc on Flurry Is Soo good I'm forced to run it

[tranquil star]

@zinc kernel thoughts on whether or not huntress should be nerfed?

[fierce epoch]

As long as the model isn't nerfed, it's fine

[uncut hatch]

strafe does 300% dps without crit and 600% with it
flurry does around 230% without crit and 920% with it
flurry needs about a 40% crit rate to deal more damage than strafe would with crit tho

[gaunt yacht]

Flurry starts at -22% damage at 1% crit
Is basically Equal at 21% crit
And +54% damage at full crit

This is on average and average does not feel good ingame

the whole thing just does not feel good

[gaunt yacht]

until you get like 46+ crit

[uncut hatch]

reminder that you have to scale strafe's crit with flurry as well to really compare

[white badge]

The secret is Gesture with Occular Hud

[tranquil star]

gesture recycler

[scarlet tapir]

Hi! Dont forget - this channel is for Risk of Rain 2 discussion only! If you want offtopic discussions - please visit #general down in hangouts! Thank you!

[gaunt yacht]

Think it's accurate anyways

[tranquil star]

shut up!!!!!!!!!!1

[dire rivet]

the fuck did you just say to my gf????

[merry karma]

might also wanna add proc dps since its shafted until about 80% crit

[tranquil star]

omg seventeenuncles

[gaunt yacht]

idk what proc dps is

[tranquil star]

can you add sniper to the game

[high torrent]

proc dps is when you multiply pps by dps

[uncut hatch]

wtf is this math?

[gaunt yacht]

it is math yes

[uncut hatch]

no how did you get these numbers this doesnt make any sense

[tranquil star]

skill issue

[gaunt yacht]

okay go on

[limpid drum]

From my head

[uncut hatch]

wait

[high torrent]

source? I made it up.

[merry karma]

source? it was revealed to me in a dream

[tranquil star]

average ancient “historian”

[high torrent]

lab was a gaslight project.
woolie was trying to wake you up

[uncut hatch]

and people give me shit for not having proof for my takes

[gaunt yacht]

guess we'll dodge your math correction

[fallen flax]

overloading worms the reminder that worms are cool

[gaunt aspen]

[ancient dirge]

Double tap with aimbot or strafe

[high torrent]

you are just getting clowned on because you don't understand that first column is a crit chance stat in %, second is strafe's dps in % in relation to crit, third is the same but flurry, fourth is average procs per second by flurry

[gaunt yacht]

Okay how do I do this now cuz if it's just proc per seconds * damage per second how would that change the result at all

[high torrent]

and last one is the difference between flurry dps and strafe dps

[ancient dirge]

Honestly are they balanced

[gaunt yacht]

no they both suck

[ancient dirge]

Huntress ballista only the way to go?

[high torrent]

just use fussilade from skillsfromthedeepend and be happy about playing huntress

[gaunt aspen]

In theory huntress is bad yet most of my monsoon runs end in W’s

[uncut hatch]

no was doing bad math earlier
crits are about 3x more effective on flurry and i was only using a 2x multiplier for my calculations
that was my mistake
but i still stand by no one actually explaining where the fuck those numbers came from as the real issue

[gaunt yacht]

That's just bootleg railgunner

[ancient dirge]

Railgunner looks weak
But damn those feet
Just imagine the smell

[limpid drum]

In theory you are playing pretty well
also solo is easy
also viable doesn’t mean good
also ratio

[naive python]

🤨

[high wasp]

[high torrent]

3000% from each m2 shot is indeed weak haha

[uncut hatch]

thats a really wierd assumption

[fallen flax]

miss me with that gross shit

[gaunt yacht]

Why did the internet decide this would be the trendy meme for 12 months

[merry nexus]

jonn just play acrid

[high torrent]

which meme

[ancient dirge]

I have realized that my opinion might be rather controversial, I retract back my statement

[fallen flax]

the internet

[gaunt aspen]

Outted one too many times

[fallen flax]

it was a logical fallacy not real guys

[high wasp]

There is no going back from saying that.

[gaunt aspen]

You’ve committed

[limpid drum]

@ Community Manager is this the RoR2 focused discussion you wanted

[high torrent]

@jacob ban the feet sniffer

[granite trench]

After close analysis, the council has decided this post is not made in compliance with the ror2 focused discussion accords. Please await your punishment for the time being

[dire rivet]

[limpid drum]

Wtf he was watching

[merry karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/898623085400440872.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[gaunt aspen]

Forever stalking

[gaunt yacht]

Ghors Gun will never be real

[high torrent]

I remember when swuff tried to make placement for golden gun but ultimately fucked up and picking up the gun made enemies tpose and be invisible

[limpid drum]

the ghorden gun

[granite trench]

Gore's gun (copyright free)

[chilly bay]

Wait how could you see them t-posing if they were invisible?

[gaunt yacht]

how can you fuck up an item placement so hard

[high torrent]

I could ping em

[merry nexus]

ghor's fun

[high torrent]

I think he called the wrong body, lemme check

[desert tusk]

ghor's gnome

[merry karma]

dude giving a single unnetworked buff in multiplayer can make interactables and the teleporter not spawn

[chilly bay]

You could
But I am free of any ping-related liability

[gaunt yacht]

well yeah but item placements don't need to be networked or anything

[gaunt aspen]

I was walking along a quite stage one, saw a printer in the distance and went to ping it. Then bam T-posing stone golem

[gaunt yacht]

I know from experience people who somehow fuck up the QoL buffs just have all elites get random buffs all the time

sometimes they just turn immortal

[abstract umbra]

having an argument between flurry and strafe is like having an argument between evis and sw

the characters they come from require so much skill to be good at you can make either work

[uncut hatch]

an interesting take

[gaunt yacht]

Evis is exclusively bad ty

[tranquil star]

slicing winds is way better though lmao

[high torrent]

he used item prefab for pickup display

[uncut hatch]

nah i frames go brr

[abstract umbra]

still got 6 eclipse wins with it bc its fun so cope i think

[high torrent]

that shit was glorious I laughed so fucking hard

gotta love modding

[tranquil star]

seethe, you

[full gale]

I come back to THIS?

[tranquil star]

gd1 is leaking

[gaunt yacht]

wdym item prefab

like every single item uses it's overworld model as the display model iirc

[abstract umbra]

i don't care how bad you think evis is it only makes me want to use it more

[gaunt yacht]

Just don't use it for I frames

[chilly bay]

Lmao

[tranquil star]

use whatever you want, idc at all
i’m just saying sw is gonna help players more than evis

[uncut hatch]

eviscerate used for i frames is literally the reason you use it among others like mobility and attack speed scaling

[gaunt yacht]

lower skill ceiling + more reward

[merry karma]

yeah idk what dumbdazed means

[fast pecan]

i beat eclipse 8's final stage on 6mm without taking damage using evis, it's still good

[high torrent]

just saying what nebby said

[gaunt yacht]

You don't need I frames when you can aim a Projectile at the ground

[abstract umbra]

the I frames are REALLY good on the mithrix fight since you can get damage in at pretty much any time safely but they're more of a Convenience to me than a feature its like a 1/3 of the reason i use it

[fast pecan]

slicing winds feels lame compared to evis

[high torrent]

you don't need I frames from evis when you can stack 7 choc chips

[wicked condor]

not for evis specifically but mood

[uncut hatch]

yeah you dont but its fun to just ram your face into an enemy an never get punished for it

[high torrent]

I'm sorry but facts don't care about the feelings

[fast pecan]

i don't really use it for the i frames, i use it for an extra dash cause i'm so used to the movement, but evis as i frames is a nice bonus

[abstract umbra]

defaulters take's are... interesting and his reasoning is a bit flawed at times imo but let him have his fun, if its how he want to play the game, let him

[limpid drum]

I’d say blinding is all the i frames you need
but evis is never die territory
i take it with focused because I need to dash back into focus crystal range

[dark sphinx]

Is there a way to get unstuck?

[full gale]

look the way I see it

Evis is better because true melee merc

[granite trench]

From evis? No

[dark sphinx]

What

[granite trench]

Unless enemy dies

[high torrent]

public override ItemDisplayRuleDict CreateItemDisplayRules()
{
ItemBodyModelPrefab = ItemDisplayModel;
var itemDisplay = ItemBodyModelPrefab.AddComponent<ItemDisplay>();
itemDisplay.rendererInfos = ItemDisplaySetup(ItemBodyModelPrefab);

        ItemDisplayRuleDict rules = new ItemDisplayRuleDict(new RoR2.ItemDisplayRule[]
        {
            new RoR2.ItemDisplayRule
            {
                ruleType = ItemDisplayRuleType.ParentedPrefab,
                followerPrefab = ItemBodyModelPrefab,
                childName = "Chest",
                localPos = new Vector3(0, 0, 0),
                localAngles = new Vector3(0, 0, 0),
                localScale = new Vector3(0, 0, 0)
            }
        });

[abstract umbra]

what if i told you my feelings don't care about your facts

[uncut hatch]

stacking crystals all the way bc im never not within range

[fallen flax]

[granite trench]

What do you mean stuck

[dark sphinx]

Is there a way to get yourself unstuck from a part of the map

[merry karma]

yeah idk

[full gale]

DUDE EXACTLY

[fast pecan]

focused assault/rising thunder/evis is the most fun, maybe not the most optimal

[full gale]

nope

[granite trench]

Try and jump off the ledge if you can see one

[fast pecan]

but if you're good with merc you by no means need to be optimal

[abstract umbra]

my personal loadout 🤝

[uncut hatch]

fuck optimization
just use what you find most comfortable and leave everyone alone

[merry karma]

i defo like merc's loadout choices, they're all nice options and more survivors should follow that rule instead of being straight upgrades

[fast pecan]

yeah merc's the only true sidegrades character

[fallen flax]

rex m2 abilities 😔

[wicked condor]

Or just "skill but again" like uh 2/3 of loader

[high torrent]

according to nebby swuff just didnt add item display component to item display prefab and it completely broke material system

[fast pecan]

no one else has all abilities be capable of putting in similar amounts of work

[fallen flax]

seed barrage nice
alt one is mediocre

[abstract umbra]

literally my point but for every character

you're more likely going to (not always) going to get more consistent wins with your chosen build than the most optimal if you enjoy it

its not true 100% of the time but its my philosophy for the game generally

[uncut hatch]

loaders is comparable id say
whether you want to play a brawler or a melee nuke the 2 sets give you that choice

[high torrent]

consistency 😳

[fast pecan]

well for other characters there are just garbage abilities that shouldn't be used, merc isn't one of those characters

[wicked condor]

Like seriously grapple choice is irrelevant even if one if them is actually better
You grapple with it
It really doesn't change that much

[fallen flax]

tfw loader spiked fist unlock

[abstract umbra]

im full alt for loader myself

the default grapple is objectively worse than the alt in this case

[north dove]

same

[fast pecan]

i'm full don't use loader

[granite trench]

🥰 🥰 Pylon 🥰 🥰

[dark sphinx]

I was literally inside a block in the bulwarks

[fallen flax]

me when i grapple a wisp and don't do anything to it (insane power)

[high torrent]

spiked fist is pointless because 340 damage on 5 secs doesn't change shit but it can cuck you out of crowbar proc

[abstract umbra]

true but like just use either shift

[uncut hatch]

i tend to go full defaults but after playing through with full alts i absolutely see the appeal
and the default grapple might be kind of wack but i prefer to move to enemies to spank them in the air rather than yoinking them to me

[fallen flax]

pylon buff

[fast pecan]

isn't the slam way better than pylon

[merry karma]

pylon offers funny speed

[high torrent]

it's pointless

[fallen flax]

also pylon can technically be used for bands but precision so who cares

[high torrent]

pylon offers effortless wisp clear, button push and movement

[granite trench]

Slam is like "yay more damage" but you're already loader

[abstract umbra]

ah i like my enemies in my face where i can leech them for shield or just kill them

[chilly bay]

Pylon is the difference between flying across half the stage in 5 seconds amd flying across the entire stage in 5 seconds.

[high torrent]

slam offers another ooga move

[fallen flax]

📠

[gaunt yacht]

Just use all alt or all default

[abstract umbra]

you'd think but its REALLY fun imo

[fallen flax]

loader full caveman build

[gaunt yacht]

all default tends to do better lategame imo

[granite trench]

I like to use slam with charged sometimes

[uncut hatch]

pylon grants loader an absurdly good get out of jail free card which is very often used to charge your gauntlet as well as just generally more dps overtime and late game proc craziness and overall good mobility

[gaunt yacht]

lose out on wisp clears

[granite trench]

Because you can do the funny tech to dump your slam during the charge

[high torrent]

again
I don't care
about fun
stop hitting me
with your 3 dollar yee yee ass fun counterargument I couldn't care any fucking less

[fallen flax]

[granite trench]

Yeah but ur still loader

From my experience it wasnt that big of a difference

[gaunt aspen]

Just play thunder gauntlet on console

[gaunt yacht]

Thunder + Pylon seems like quite a loadout that i'll never play

[uncut hatch]

but slam can be a nice extra slap in the face to enemies to keep them stunned for that much more damage

[abstract umbra]

if you're not playing games for fun you should probably evaluate yourself as a person tbh

[tranquil star]

pylon has better proc, larger aoe, gives loader a ranged option, allows for more readily available aoe, and can push down aqueduct plates

[gaunt aspen]

I don’t play slam because it’s too loud

[granite trench]

Yeah that's prob my least favorite

[abstract umbra]

true but ooga booga slam

[fallen flax]

loader build argument what happened to you?!?!
FUN/OPTIMAL OPINIONS ‼️

[tranquil star]

i can already do that with my shift

[high torrent]

I will evaluate your head as super bowl ball

[abstract umbra]

why not more

[tranquil star]

pointless and less fun

[uncut hatch]

but slam does pretty big damage and stuns
personally i like both for different reasons

[tranquil star]

charged punch does bigger damage

[uncut hatch]

yeah but you can use both

[gaunt aspen]

I wish in didn’t knock enemies back as far

[tranquil star]

or i could use sick movement tech and better aoe

[gaunt aspen]

But that may just be console kb

[fallen flax]

i personally don't use charged punch not cause it's bad but im bad at holding more than two keys at once

[tranquil star]

and a pressure plate push

[abstract umbra]

maybe for you but i like thunderslam more and you can like pylon more its a game its not that serious

[uncut hatch]

that 20 second cooldown hurts sometimes

[tranquil star]

kill issue

[fallen flax]

just get alien head

[uncut hatch]

oh i agree a bandolier fixes everything

[abstract umbra]

and also its loader you can kill god with no items either way no matter the build you use you're just that strong

[uncut hatch]

this is always a truth

[fallen flax]

do you have llike a still image of the last frame

[abstract umbra]

bandolier and sticky bombs i have found to be stupidly underrated tbh

[tranquil star]

ok so you use thunderslam and i’ll use pylon, ggs

case literally closed

[merry karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/853386064705224715.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[tranquil star]

jumpscare

[high torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/woolie-crowdfunder-wooliegaming-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-gif-24361541

[merry karma]

yes thats woolie

[fallen flax]

i thank the lord for this beatiful peace of art i have been presented

[high torrent]

uncanny valley

[uncut hatch]

oh absolutely
stickies synergize with basically everything good in the game and bandoliers are what alien head wishes it was

[cloud remnant]

Five nights at Woolie's

[abstract umbra]

this is how debates should be not "you're wrong because you think otherwise", thanks for not being a caveman discord user about it :)

[fallen flax]

me when a discord user respects another user's opinion and does not continue arguin what da hell ⁉️

[abstract umbra]

the fact that i can pick up a bandolier or 2 and get more value than a red is concerning

[uncut hatch]

well i think its more alien heads problem than bandolier's

[fallen flax]

me when i get a sticky proc from my five atgs

[gaunt yacht]

I mean the best whites are better than the worst greens so same would be true for one higher

[fallen flax]

total damage is broken

[gaunt yacht]

but it is a shame alien head is just not very good

[gaunt aspen]

Well the same could be said about dios and clover

[gaunt yacht]

better cooldown reduction would be nice

[abstract umbra]

honestly alien head should have had the same effect as bandoliers minus the pickup part and some way to guarantee it

[gleaming river]

this run is absurd

[fallen flax]

clover?

🤨

[cloud remnant]

Alien head is good with high cooldown skills

[gaunt aspen]

If you get almost no proc items

[fallen flax]

impossible on a ror2 run think about it

[gaunt yacht]

Bandolier is better

[abstract umbra]

that would make it properly an fairly OP red like the majority of them

[cloud remnant]

Kind of

[uncut hatch]

the biggest problem with alien head is that its practically useless since normally youll already have at least one bandolier to do its job better than it can

[gaunt aspen]

I’ve gotten 3 clovers as my first items

[timber skiff]

i have the chance to beat the game for the first time (obliterating) but i also have a really good run rn

hard decision

[gaunt aspen]

2 yrs ago

[fallen flax]

im sorry i am just incredibly biased towards clover

[gleaming river]

clover printer, rejuv printer, brainstalks printer, 2 random legendary chests, 3 aspects, irradiant pearl

[fallen flax]

run of the gods

[abstract umbra]

the only thing is that bandolier isn't good on long ranged survivors since on them by the time you pick up the pickup from that distance your skill will have refilled already

[gaunt aspen]

Obliterate

[fallen flax]

never will i ever get a run as good as tronion's unless i use up all my life luck in one day

[timber skiff]

i keep getting clay dunestriders on like almost every teleporter event and i keep obliterating them every time

[gaunt aspen]

NOW

[uncut hatch]

there is only so much cdr you can use at any given time and alien head might make things charge 25% faster but thats meaningless when they are never on cooldown from ammo packs insta charging them

[gaunt aspen]

Just do another run

[uncut hatch]

not to mention brainstalks exists

[timber skiff]

this is the first time i have gotten this far

[ruby cargo]

Why would you obliterate on rainstorm

[timber skiff]

i dont think im ready for monsoon yet (or mithrix

[gaunt aspen]

Then get merc

[timber skiff]

i took 30 minutes chipping away at phase 3 and then died and he wasnt even at half iirc

[ruby cargo]

oh thats why right